Field Dispatch
True Crime in The Mix- Netflix's The Perfect Neighbor w/Kendrick (@withkendricktucker)
Field Notes
Sprinkling some true crime in The Mix! Host of the I Ken Not podcast, Kendrick Tucker and Mani tackle the new Sundance acclaimed documentary The Perfect Neighbor. This is the story of the death of mom Ajike Owens at the hands of Florida woman Susan Lorincz over the retrieval of Ajike's son's ipad; after years of tension brewing between the community and this lady over the differences between trespassing and playing. The thoughts are saved for the audio but boy are there PLENTY of thoughts and opinions about this documentary and this case overall.
Warning: it is a TEAR JERKER! But also incredibly worth the watch and some conversation about the decisions of all involved from director to police department to Suze herself. Pour something strong and come mix it up!
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Speaker 1: Sounds trussing.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologist. It is your girl, momy. What is up with sh'all? I'll tell you what is up with me? It's episode two in one week, crazy double the amount of content because so many things are on the television. And while I'm having a great time in the Bravo Vortex, y'all also know that I am a true crime girly. I am a documentary girly, and so that means and y'all know who else is? That's Kendrick Big can not the little one, as it says on my screen. Right now, host of I cannot with Kendrick Tucker.
Speaker 2: I have Kendrick back to talk the true crime. I'm so excited.
Speaker 3: How are you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm good, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 4: So you know it's just, oh, listen, we take our joy where we can. This was not a joyful documentary, but you know what, between Salt Lake City and Potomac, I'm okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, every once in a while you gotta step back into reality and figure out which terriblely racist white women we gotta curse out every week, like who's out?
Speaker 1: Definitely got it?
Speaker 3: This week, we got it last time. It was Kendra over there with the call, the call, what's it called?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, bananas.
Speaker 2: If y'all want to know more about that, if you just recently watched it, please go ahead and listen to me and Kendrick's episode about that crazy lady, because I still don't know why we didn't talk to her from inside of her jail.
Speaker 3: Cell.
Speaker 2: I have no idea why she was able to sit down. I would like to press charges myself. With that being said, we actually were just even talking about the real true crime of George Santos's sentence being commuted, but John Bolton getting indicted yesterday and making my commute home like three hours longer from DC by way of but that's the end to Virginia where that was a long trip, and I just want to know was it worth it? Orange Man in the White House?
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 2: I don't think it was, especially if you can't, you can't. We are living in hilarious times.
Speaker 4: Truly, like it is literally one walking comic strip. I don't know what's happening, but.
Speaker 3: Is abundant.
Speaker 2: In fact, I have never seen a better demonstration of that then also watching this documentary because I'm just like the whole time, almost anytime from the gateway that we're going to get into the nitty gritty.
Speaker 3: I got notes and we got thoughts.
Speaker 2: But from the gateway, I was like, I'm trying to find this lady's where she's getting this from each ya.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm just trying to figure out where you're coming from.
Speaker 2: I don't understand how we jumped from A to B, and so as I was having a hard time establishing that throughout, I was like, well, whatever she did and whoever she did it to, we're gonna have a really hard time figuring out why because he jumps from baby. I'm like, now, did I miss something I don't understand in these cameras?
Speaker 3: If you got all these problems.
Speaker 4: Right, and you know, I just I've had to learn over the years at my big age, I just had to learn that it starts becoming mental illness with me when I try to put a rhyme or reason to racism. Because racism, as I've learned from many of people, it really requires blind loyalty. You just gotta When you choose to be racist, boy, you choose it at.
Speaker 1: Everybody else's expense, Like you just choose to be racist and.
Speaker 2: Did Yeah, she really did, because I've never ever First of all, I'm like, then why move there?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Feel like people don't tell you a lot of these things beforehand, like realtors and things. They do typically let you know that one there are children in the neighborhood. Two where your property lines are, and they're real. You can't make them up. You can't just hide because you put a sign somewhere, it means it's your property. When the owner of the home himself, yep, it's called on the things said. I don't know why she think it's that property. There's one that's all.
Speaker 1: Little lot to the left right, and.
Speaker 3: The other big one.
Speaker 2: Not mine, no prayers, not hers, not anybody's. It is free for public consumption. But your property is within your fence. And if y'all watch it, you know what I'm talking about. Because only her front door is fenced in.
Speaker 3: That's it. That's what. Literally, that's it. That's all right.
Speaker 2: So y'all we're gonna dive into this perfect neighbor situation. It is all told. And this is a choice. I don't know how I feel about it. I've seen this before, but it is a choice to tell the whole thing through surveillance footage via the the body cams of the police officers, because that lady called the cops on these chillren that many times.
Speaker 3: That we have a lot of footage. So I guess why if I.
Speaker 2: Were a documentarian, I too, I too would be like, well, you know what, we got calls from that lady, we might as well go back and use every single goddamn one of them.
Speaker 4: You know what, I don't know if you watched this one back We need to come out came out in twenty twenty. Oh yeah you watched it. Yeah, yeah, you watched it. American Murder, So that was one about Chris.
Speaker 3: Watson, and I remember again last year see.
Speaker 4: Right, and you know that one, Like I heard that podcast so many times. But that would actually thought was a great choice to do, like because they did that one like almost exclusively from bodycam footage too, and so we were getting we were seeing the neighbors like as he was walking off, they were like, this motherfucker's acting weird, like telling the cough like he's acting weird as hell. So I like it from because it is definitely a choice.
Speaker 2: But when you have right, that's Christy, Yeah, if you're a true crime girly, that's one of the first like that, that's something every Yeah podcast has covered.
Speaker 3: The Watts family. You know that family.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's so that's what makes true crime so fascinating because like, not is it that, it's not that it's necessarily like wow, let's.
Speaker 3: Like this is so cool, let's figure it out.
Speaker 2: It's really like I'm literally having a hard time figuring out how you got there, how it ever got to that.
Speaker 3: Point your family. That's so crazy.
Speaker 2: And that's exactly the same thing that happened as we sat down and watched this one.
Speaker 1: Yep, it's crazy that for him.
Speaker 4: He it's always crazy to me when a whole married man do this kind of stuff because their wife gets pregnant with another child. And it's like you doing all of that because you don't think you can afford another child.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, if you'll, And that doesn't always mean that other choice.
Speaker 3: It can mean an option, it can mean.
Speaker 2: Anything you other than murdering living being already Yeah, wore home And yes, it's the same as like, also, if you're a true crime person, I you know the story of I can't remember who their names are, right now, but I've heard it on the three different podcasts. The couples who were best friends sometimes may or may not have swung, and then the wife of one and the husband of the other fall love and she convinces him to murder her husband by voting no a duck hunting trip and on the boat, oh, best friends the wife and then he divorced his actual wife married this lady.
Speaker 2: Then you know what, she didn't want them no more. Eventually, like that whole thing, exact same thing. I forget what family it is.
Speaker 3: It's been on.
Speaker 2: There are documentaries. It's a whole it's a whole ordeal because it took like ten plus years to catch you know them, But like, I don't know how y'all get there, but it's something that is like, it's gotta be focused in on how you can.
Speaker 1: Just which one harshburger the duck.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna literally look up duck hunting murder and I'm telling you it will it will come up, yup, murder of Mike Williams.
Speaker 1: Knew it, Mike Okay, Okay, okay Williams.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Florida, Oh my god, Kendrick.
Speaker 4: Florida, always Florida you know what, either Florida or Washington state.
Speaker 1: One of those two. It's always them to I don't.
Speaker 3: Know what, like geez.
Speaker 2: The murder of Mike Williams also happened around the Georgia Florida state line. His Yeah, he went on a duck hunting trip with his best friend early in the morning. They were big duck hunters. He was supposed to like fall in the water. And the problem was when they found his body or something, they said he got eaten by gators. That was what tricked people all too it being murdered. He had gotten eaten by gators, according to everyone, who couldn't find him for days, and he was missing. Yeah, but every single person in the Everglades or wherever that had been eating or fallen in that got eaten by gators has shown up and they couldn't find him.
Speaker 3: So then they were like, there's.
Speaker 2: No way he was righting and he was in waiters that make him flow or sink, and we can't find him right since And then also like they found his jacket, but it had.
Speaker 3: No bite marks in it. It was like what So it.
Speaker 2: Was also that them people could get together and and and be with each other.
Speaker 3: Why though they were.
Speaker 2: So religious and so against the horse, they thought their only way out was murder.
Speaker 1: Insane. The fact that people.
Speaker 4: The truly like the fact that people can be so religious that you know, I've always said, you know, people choose their sins.
Speaker 1: They choose pick and choose their damn sins.
Speaker 4: They will they would let somebody have a thousand kids at of wedlock and just be just as happy as a clown.
Speaker 1: But let somebody be gay in the family. Oh, baby, that's a whole nother thing.
Speaker 4: I'm like, are you interview listen, ryme.
Speaker 3: That's a crime fourteen for lock.
Speaker 1: Her and boosy up because boy was doing what.
Speaker 3: Are y'all talking about?
Speaker 2: Mama d from Love and hip hop and boozy and then I promise y'all get back.
Speaker 3: But love is mama? Are you talking about?
Speaker 2: She? They hiring strippers for their teenage son's birthday parties, and the sons are telling y'all we cried.
Speaker 3: We were traumatized.
Speaker 2: I was scared, and you're trying to tell me when she said, what you scared of pussy?
Speaker 3: No, ma'am, I'm scared.
Speaker 2: Of my mom kind of hasn't sexually abused as a youth truly. That's what I'm that's what I'm afraid of.
Speaker 4: That's I'm pretty sure Boosy took it a step further and made the son and woman go further.
Speaker 1: So he's I don't know, but hey.
Speaker 3: Literal are at sign pe.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, yeah, it is very very bad.
Speaker 2: Y'all are making poor choices, like it doesn't make any sense. So there's stro crime literally up and in everywhere. So at least when they put it in a ninety minute package of why I should care and that there is a of some kind of regular, regular resolution, that's all that matters to me, you know what I'm saying. And so let me tell you, ninety four percent of the time I don't like the resolution. That's a low number. Ninety nine percent of the time I don't like the resolution.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. I'm here watching the credit on this one.
Speaker 2: Okay, I will tell me. But should did it again?
Speaker 3: Because that's where we're edited, that's.
Speaker 2: Where weating, because listen, y'all, she because the whole thing is told through body, can't footage. Because the lady Susan Lawrence called the cops so many times because her side of the duplex, she claimed was constantly her yard, her property, even though she's rinting like everybody else on that block. Her property is the like is a yard that is adjacent and next to another giant open field. There is nothing dividing it, so it is really just about who believes what. And every day it seems she wants to enforce a new boundary around her home that doesn't exist and swear that the kids knowingly are crossing over it.
Speaker 2: And I don't mean just playing on her yard.
Speaker 3: I mean they're door ding.
Speaker 2: Dong ditching even though people like you got cameras and that's untrue. Like I'm just afraid from my life and the things that she's accusing them for. Let me tell you every single time, and I'm made a list of what both sides are played every single time. Though she calls the cops, the cops also interview the whole neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Literally because this one's always outside.
Speaker 2: The children are all out and there's at least two or three adults outside or periodically stepping outside.
Speaker 3: Who when the cops come there, there they're ready.
Speaker 2: She's saying, Susan that they're on supervised and they're running all over her property and kicking in and burning.
Speaker 3: Up her signs man, find you again.
Speaker 2: These children are between the ages of nine and fourteen at the most.
Speaker 3: I mean some of them.
Speaker 1: There are some younger.
Speaker 3: Some are so young there we can't see their faces. Yeah, like hey, no, literally.
Speaker 4: The one the ones she accused of trying to put like the poodle in the yard.
Speaker 1: The man is like, do you say how small this boy is? He cannot pick that damn dog up?
Speaker 3: Are you get me?
Speaker 2: I've never appreciated Florida cops and I didn't think I would, but let me tell you, they call a bullshit on this lady. The very first day, kids are playing kickball in the yard next to her house and she calls the cops, and two come out every single time, two cop cars. An enormous amount of cops, more than I ever think. They're frustrated, I can tell from mostly yes, because they're like, we have to be here because she keep calling this yet it's really looking like and giving children and playing outside and you don't like it.
Speaker 2: And she at one point even cites the quote unquote law that she is entitled to peaceful enjoyment of her property and home, and the cops straight up tells their lady that's civil. That don't got nothing to do with me. I can't enforce any of that shit nothing.
Speaker 1: This is not my day job, saying.
Speaker 2: Of course, it's not like, of course, what are we even talking about here? So after she does calls the cops, I mean they show us, I would say, the first forty five minutes is how many times this lady called the cops? Yep, condensed into stints and you see different parents give different perspectives, different ones admittingly get into it with her because she calls their children multiple names.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, multiple names.
Speaker 4: Did anybody want to guess what she calls the black ones?
Speaker 3: I hope y'all.
Speaker 2: And I love her excuse later on, I mean, if it's slipped out, it slipped out.
Speaker 3: But it's all, oh, oh okay, we're not okay.
Speaker 2: It was okay, right, Well, it's not a crime to me, that's okay, But.
Speaker 4: Wait, can we talk about that for thing? Because manslaughter is crazy to me?
Speaker 2: Manslaughter is but nuts? Wow, a locked door?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: If I shoot you through a locked door and I'm only going in for manslaughter, and then I would shoot a lot of people through locked doors, that ain't right. Consequences, right,
Speaker 2: y'all don't know, like we're gonna continue to talk about it, but I don't want to hold y'all hostage on like which oneness is, which case this is? If y'all remember a few years back, I think two, we're like at twenty twenty three three. Yeah, a mom, a black mom, was killed in front of her children, and and and that is I can't even so seeing it is a big trigger winner for people. But she is killed because she went to her neighbor's house because the lady stole the iPad from the kids. Basically, she for whatever reason.
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, y'all, it's not that she doesn't give reasons. It's that she don't make sense. And none of them makes sense a lick of it. Even the cops, like I'm trying to follow, say again, they threw you threw roller skates, your roller skating at them. You threw the roller skates, and but you collected the iPad and you took it in the house right when you expect the child is somebody to not come get it, child or not. I'm also coming at your door pulling up what are you doing with my property?
Speaker 2: But yet you're concerned about people on your property line.
Speaker 3: You see what connictions.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it from the documentary people and the people who made this here documentary. There were multiple times where it seems like what gets her goal is people being too close to her house, being yelling and screaming, being children of minority race or different socioeconomic status than this lady who believes that she deserves to live in this mixed ethnic area free of being like addressed at all. And so instead of talking to the parents, asking the parents to stay on their kids about being quieter, staying with Marlan whatever, she calls the cops immediately, so that puts everybody on the defense.
Speaker 4: And so which I honestly believe, because you know, people say like attributed to karen behavior, I honestly believe she watches enough of the news and she thought that those cops were gonna come in the situation would escalate, and they would do her dirty work for her. They would be the one that someone might pull out a gun way too fast, and someone might do this, and that she was not expecting these cops to show up and be actually level headed people and be like, ma'am, you bullshitting Do you ask what I don't have to.
Speaker 3: Do a lot of paperwork, right because she was playing kickball.
Speaker 2: I just want to know, like it's Florida, it's only we don't have any shortage of real crimes to investigate. The nine one one needs to call any of these four officers, who I'm telling y'all know less than a dozen times.
Speaker 3: One dad even says that it's about twice a week. Yep, that's a lot of times to call the cops. You can leave.
Speaker 2: Also if you want to consistently file reports and press charges multiple times. They're like, so do you want to press charges for trespassing or whatever? And she's like, yes, I do again. The oldest child is fourteen, the old at best, and he's essentially on the porch watching the other youngins play. I'm talking, they got scooters. One baby girl is talking to the cops and brushing a doll's.
Speaker 4: Hair literally got with balls, literally in the feel not on you because you don't don't own nothing skateboards.
Speaker 3: Like they're literally.
Speaker 4: Chilling children of all races too. So it's not even just like she's targeting for no reason, because these kids are like, yeah, she crazy, We just we just.
Speaker 1: With miss care. They call her Miss Karen, Yeah, miss Karen, you know, like, yeah.
Speaker 3: You're over there.
Speaker 2: And even the cops were like back in my day, the man would just the cranky person would just come out and yell.
Speaker 3: At you and right go home.
Speaker 2: And the black dad is like just and if they and that happened, I'm going in and I have to get the switch. I'm like, these children are not being unruly, clearly, they're all being parented. They interview multiple adults, something that this lady doesn't do, and ask what happened. They're getting nothing but the same information told different ways from every single person on the street, like all the races, all the old people that in their houses. Even when it comes down to what she alleges was said and done when she shot this who she's only had a few encounters with, and they've all been hostile because she is always yelling at these kids.
Speaker 2: And this mom said, do not talk to my children or any children that way. Yes, when I call them the N word, m F first, the B word, There's so many things she calls them that when the children are telling the cops, they can't they won't even say it literally.
Speaker 1: Right, She called me a jack. All the word.
Speaker 5: Clean word, the P word, the F word, and then one black parent even said no, a hard e r.
Speaker 2: She calls them like, I've heard it myself many times. They're asking the right questions. They're like, so, can you tell me what? And they have told the cops have told them stay off her property. They're like, we're not on it, but okay, right then, and they're like telling her their children, we can't arrest them.
Speaker 3: We have to take their side, in your side, and she is flummes that right, they even.
Speaker 2: Believe those ratchet hood children exactly, rolls her eyes and the falls every time. She's like, well, you know they have a story too. When they say that you're also being of course, she's like, well she didn't say that she grabbed you by the collar or whatever, which is every time she the cops come. Susan Dunn added a little bit more razzle dazzle.
Speaker 1: You know, Papa, what was.
Speaker 3: Your favorite one? You remember one in your off the top of your head.
Speaker 4: I know they kept asking her while you know, we can't just take your word for why don't you get a camera? I know she never got the damn camera because she knew the she was gonna do one day, but you had all the little ras every time. Literally she They're like, okay, well what they do this time?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, you know what in that damn interrogation room because she gave her one story.
Speaker 2: What I tell you, I said I had and I had to read the transcript because I was like, I'm gonna just sit here and watch this looking like a potato. And yes, I'm gonna shame her and her looks because you should what I have to say about racist racism is bad for the skin. You can get that from tea public dot com slash mixing with Money today baby on things you like, pillow mugs, t shirt, whatever, time, and I get a lot of compliments just I went at the home Gooods the other day.
Speaker 3: It's my line, okay, let me drop you.
Speaker 2: And I did write it down for her on her business, you know, on my home goods receipt.
Speaker 3: A t J situation.
Speaker 2: I love the girls at home Goods, okay, Yeah to budget up in here discounts, okay, make it okay. And because I don't care if people play near my house, I'm in the house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, give a ship.
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't even.
Speaker 3: Want to subscribe.
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna ask where her empathy is, because that would be that was non existent, like where her compassionate heart is, Like why didn't you try to come outside and talk to these children?
Speaker 3: Why didn't you?
Speaker 1: That's the problem.
Speaker 2: You're not exactly she didn't see any of them as human.
Speaker 3: She claimed that the mom threw a sign at her. Uh.
Speaker 2: The woman that passed away Ajica, she well was murdered by this lady, Susan. She claimed that at one point in the early parts of her cop calls, that she threw her trust no trespassing sign because Susan puts the signs in the yard like like for whatever, Like she's throwing bread and dugs.
Speaker 3: It's just a little toss here, a little toss there, you know.
Speaker 2: And then she's talking about, oh, they stumped my sign out and the mom threw it at my leg and it's assault and I want to be and she makes them write a report for battery. I said, now, h no, you fucking lion, like she tossed it and it hit you, Okay, but you also know the difference, and I really need you to under She's really upset that the cops are not understanding, like they're not just being racist with.
Speaker 1: Her, right, that's what she's.
Speaker 3: Like, You're literally Florida cops.
Speaker 1: Right, like, what's going on?
Speaker 3: Right, I'm dirty, hell lady yelling at me, throwing get it? Look right, So, Sir George Zimmerman that ass or something.
Speaker 2: That's what she looked and she did for us.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: One of the claims also by Susan is that kids were playing and screaming at her window, calling her all kinds of names and whatever, arson and mischief to her, signs.
Speaker 1: Child and.
Speaker 2: The neighbor next door, because again this is a duplex, so he actually, we have multiple people who explain the logistics of the feels, the yards, the lines, and he's like, so she gets that like one lot that looks like it would be hers, and that shocket lot that backs all the way up to the tree in the park, and the next neighborhood.
Speaker 3: Is allowed for kickball and football or whatever.
Speaker 2: Like they're just like anywhere else, literally, and it's a street. So they have to drive by or skateboard by, and let me tell y'all, if she sees them in her window, if they skate past her window, they scooter past her window, she calls the cops every time.
Speaker 4: Every time literally the cop and it's not like this big multitude like literally she calls so often. This one cop comes, she's like to talk to the other cop who's already there. He's like, apparently the kids something this woman. He said, oh I know, I know.
Speaker 1: It's talk to him.
Speaker 3: Statement.
Speaker 2: One baby girl even goes, we're eleven lucky because at one point also claim that this boy who he's walking his dog. Essentially what she's describing, She's like, he's I called the cops because he was trying to put a dog in my truck on my property.
Speaker 3: I parked the car. Now, mind you.
Speaker 2: The kids are like, yeah, she parked that car that she like drives straight towards us sometimes. Yeah, that she like sets the alarm off from the inside of the house and says that we're jumping on her car and then calls the cops right when we're like, we were nowhere near her car. We've even done experiments where we go inside and then we still magically the car is alarming, and magically the cops come in fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: Yep, and so not I this.
Speaker 3: Twelve eleven ten year old boy walking his like golden doodle. The dad is like or.
Speaker 2: One of the dads, one of the neighborhood dads who again outside supervising the children because he knows this lady is crazy. There is who parents outside. I'm telling y'all all the time. And he's like, doesn't even know the baby's name. But he's like, Africa, what's your brother's name? Yeah, that one right there in the red shirt. Because she's claiming he's like, oh, it's a little small dog, a little tiny dog that she tried to he tried to put in my truck. And they're like, okay, you try to put a dog in a truck.
Speaker 2: You got a dog. And they're like, no, you have a dog.
Speaker 3: And he's like, you got a dog and she's like yeah, it's like oh that big dog. Know what's He's like, he can't lift that dog. He can really walk that dog. He can't exactly, that's a dog about big as he is.
Speaker 2: And again, no dog hair found in the truck. Like she's not it's just not making any of the sense. So that's a ridiculous claim that she made him called the cop. This is your taxpayer dollars. Yeah, taxpayers are going to a lady lying on some children for.
Speaker 3: What, like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1: Crazy?
Speaker 3: Who gives the ship? Like you take an edible and go to bed when you hear.
Speaker 2: Kids yelling outside, you like, pour some bordeaux and you call it you're put on love. You turn that bitch up and you're just like you chill like.
Speaker 1: Any other normal ass adult in America.
Speaker 2: Like you get the thing on the stereo, like instead of on that, instead of on the regular you say, you know what, let me do this around sound drown.
Speaker 3: These kids out, like that's all right?
Speaker 2: Hey, I mean next you get a ring camera which is like sixty ninety nine at the home deadpot and if you don't hone the pot anymore because of all their foolishness, the Amazon also foolishness, but like do a ring camera.
Speaker 1: From the right not find them somewhere?
Speaker 2: Okay, got Colm, just go there and send it to you six like starter, you can get that. You can get some you know, you can call adt since you think that you're being banged.
Speaker 3: Up on all the time. Right, So we're.
Speaker 2: Escalating from that to their committing arson. I don't know again how these children in multitudes of six plus, they're in six plus at all times.
Speaker 3: They ain't pact. You know how they're.
Speaker 2: Sneaking out flameable things like things that like you know, start fires to torch your no trespassing sign?
Speaker 3: Where did they get it? Girl?
Speaker 1: Like this is not weapons.
Speaker 4: All these kids are not leaving at the same time of night to come fuck with you?
Speaker 2: Like what are we talking about out my signs? And I want to press charges about that? Not your paper no trespassing signs?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: And I love the one mom, the white mom be out there with the kids. She told us. She was like that lady is crazy. She was like, ye'all almost hit her one time. I died. I was like, you know what.
Speaker 2: I was like, please don't do that, and she will call here you but like she's not. She wold broll is yelling at these kids like that. She's like, they are children. Do you hear thet she called the motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: And they're like nine, they're literally.
Speaker 2: Playing kickball again. They're not cursing her out. They're like, no, we're out here. She's knocking, dong ditching. They're not coming up to her door. She got a gate around her door, y'all. Literally, whether it came with the property or not, it's not like they can run in and out of it.
Speaker 3: Also close the gate.
Speaker 4: Right, that's your that's your whole property. So that solved all the problems. Literally, yeah, and you're.
Speaker 2: So afraid the amount of time, she says, I was afraid from my life and I'm like, again, yours, you're the gun owner. That's sixty plus the right. And these are children that are fourteen the scooters. What they're gonna do throw the scooter at you.
Speaker 4: That was the worst part of the damn interrogation because she sat asking that room and she was like yeah she Oh my god, it felt like she was just knocking and banging to my door for so long. Then they were like you want that launch, Well yeah, it was like twenty or thirty seconds.
Speaker 1: They're like, want that long?
Speaker 3: Yeah, last two to five minutes.
Speaker 2: So in two to five minutes, lady right asking for the iPad back you saying she's not gonna talk to her, saying I'm gonna break into your house then right, and then you shooting you let it in five minutes.
Speaker 3: It escalated only five minutes, max.
Speaker 1: And after you had already called the police.
Speaker 2: The way they said, it's not that we're not coming, it's that we are working our way through the list of armed robberies, kidnappings, and Susan Lawrence once.
Speaker 3: Again doesn't like this.
Speaker 2: The black kids and the little, you know, big kids are playing outside with the football because she that is clearly diverse.
Speaker 3: With all the people should not be and you just got here. She's only been there like three years.
Speaker 4: Mats right, it was a lot everybody else been there.
Speaker 3: We've been here. This is literally the kids school district what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: The cops coming up and asking even when y'all get on break and they're like, we've been our home break for like a week, and they're like, oh my god, I got friends that are still in school.
Speaker 3: That's so crazy. And they're like, yeah, but.
Speaker 2: Really, we just playing like we promised, just kids were nothing wrong and shit, And he was like, honestly, I'd rather you guys be out here playing than making those TikTok dances. And somebody even tries to level with her, and it's like, I mean, for all its worth, I'd rather these I mean kind of racists, but I'd rather these little black and brown kids be outside playing and not like stealing in cars and doing other shit that they shouldn't be doing, and I'm like, exactly, them playing means they're actually not doing what you accuse them of.
Speaker 2: But before you and I want you to tell us about this interrogation because I had to stand up and put my hands behind my head so I couldn't get through it. I'm really telling y'all like I really can't, especially when she was the only one on the screen. I had no redeeming qualities. Nothing was going well for me in those moments. I said, no, no, no, I can't. But before that, I'm telling you, the documentary also puts in so many contradictions of her behavior. Right, They show us such limited interactions that this woman Scaud she was afraid for her life all the time, so she never talked to these people.
Speaker 2: Really, so they show her wanting to protect her truck and protect her property.
Speaker 3: But then they also show a call where at one point.
Speaker 2: A white man with a private property sign like a toe yard or something like that is calling because he's like,
Speaker 2: here's the thing. This is a locked gate and it's private props. And yet I'm seeing and hearing, visualizing caught on camera this lady ramming her truck, her precious truck that a dog can't get in the flatbed of and a nine year old is trying to jump into and she's afraid for her life and they're vandalizing her property.
Speaker 3: Okay, but so.
Speaker 2: It is ramming her truck into the fence because she got locked inside of the tow yard or whatever. She got locked inside the property. And he's like, I don't even know how she got in there ramming and try to get out. She didn't come try to ask for help, She ain't look for nobody like, she just started ramming it. And I want to press charges at least damages my fra the private property and need the people out. And the fence is now broken because we couldn't get out of it because it's not meant to get out.
Speaker 1: Of because I was supposed to be there in the first place.
Speaker 3: Did you get her, Susan, why are you here?
Speaker 1: Health helfer?
Speaker 4: And they had her attitude with the police officers when they come asking her about it, and then she up there. They're like, well, look, you can need to talk to us about it, or if you don't want to, then you got to refuse. We go take you down.
Speaker 2: And she was like what it was about? Yes you did, because you give it when I said it, so you I'll go and I want to say it on to talk and he's like, no, like to like you already called it. You said it, he said, I have to read it to you. They're being like they're handling her with kid gloves. They're being with her as they are being with the children. And that's worth noting. That's how she got away with this for so long. And honestly, as nice as the cops are being this complicity and not telling her you're about to get charged for false police reporting, like they're not slowing up with any kind of actual consequences, like we cannot prove anything, you have no evidence.
Speaker 2: It keeps coming down to you don't have any cameras. They told her about three different times. We have no footage, so you have no case where we're gonna charge her because y'all did this so many times, and she thought that at the end of it, she can just go ahead and do it herself.
Speaker 1: Go ahead and walk away and get away with murder. Literally literally literally keep letting her do this.
Speaker 2: And so when they came up there, I're like, you're gonna need a lawyer or you got you know anything, you say and do. She's like, nah, I don't want to talk, and they're like mm hm because we're here on different times. It's just so interesting because you keep calling us about trespassing and I'm here to tell you you're about to be arrested for actual trespassing.
Speaker 1: Right Why were you?
Speaker 4: Had they taken her ass in the custody long ago, none of this ship would have happened, or at least somebody they needed somebody on their police force to like lay down the damn law. Because yes, after so many times, I can't imagine anybody calling MPD the Memphis Police Department that many times and then either one one or two things go happen. Either them police asses are gonna stop showing up because baby, they'll do that. In the second please don't play with them. And then number two, oh baby, they coming, they're gonna cut your ass clean.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I came three times that way that the DC sniper's wife lived like two streets behind me, and people know she was the ultimate target. When I was a kid, all the cops because we saw at that time, like everybody was calling the cops about what they saw. But at the time, everybody, yes, a white van, and the white van circled our colders had like three times and we called the cops, and I'm telling you, they did not come at all.
Speaker 3: So we had to call the man at our church who is a cop for the same county and a nervous literally, I don't want it to be me see that. There's no rhyme or reason.
Speaker 2: So maybe just like, look, I'm telling y'all, if y'all were in the DMV during that time, we were not pumping gas like literally, grown ass men were on the ground like not.
Speaker 3: They were like, we were not doing it. It was a hard time.
Speaker 2: Also, everybody's covered it, and I always listen to every single one, every single yeah, every.
Speaker 3: Time, and I lived it. I was young, but I lived it, yes, in my life because I was a child.
Speaker 1: Yes, which is a movie.
Speaker 2: Also a good point this this lady is actually scarier to these children, So you lying on them is actually really upsetting because you calling them these names, threatening them, but yet telling the cops that they're threatening you, threatening that they're gonna come in and they're gonna hurt.
Speaker 3: You, They're gonna kill you, You're gonna get someone to kill you.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, again, how'd you get in the field and ram that man's gate he wants to and you owe it to him. But now because of that, you call one last time about something with the roller skates. This may like what the children are saying is like hard to understand because they're so traumatized. Susan is saying is impossible to understand because she's a goddamn liar. I've never seen a more delusional person other than they really taking it.
Speaker 3: They got it.
Speaker 2: Say again, you are literally saying you were the aggressor that you threw the skates at him or something, because we see the skates coming at us, and like we get out the way, and then she's mad and then takes my iPad and she's like it's top recording or whatever.
Speaker 3: She's mad that they're using the iPad.
Speaker 2: Which you should have done, right, and she was so much danger girl, Like you should have put that iPad in the window or something in a webcam, anything you can, we can, we could keep it economic, like, but no, that wasn't the goal or the thing. You were just mad, and you really I really agree with you, Ken. I think that that she wanted them people to do her dirty work in Chicago, they shoot eleven year olds and.
Speaker 1: That's not that's not right, that's not okay anywhere, Just so we're clear about that.
Speaker 2: Like, no, at the least, so she is. She takes this voice iPad. I don't remember what exactly she does with it, whether she throws it, keeps it, whatever. She has the iPad though, and her having the iPad, so.
Speaker 4: He had to go back and get it, and so I think him going back and get it is what kind of precipitated because the kids kept saying they felt so guilty about having to go back or leaving the iPad or like whatever.
Speaker 1: They're like around you get.
Speaker 2: It, get the iPad, and that meant danger because this lady is so unreasonable that they can't even like be within it. I'm talking about like y'all, she want like a football, like a thousand feet yep, or more like she wants a whole street away of a perimeter around a dual plax. Girl next door could give it two ships they give up. You don't know, he's a girl.
Speaker 3: What their kids they really just be playing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, literally, no one in the neighborhood gives a ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes they be loud, but most times they go to bed because they children, So they o the house at are like eight nine, except maybe when they got you know, school break, and then there's two weeks max and then they back into school.
Speaker 3: And uh, and I've always known them to be kids here.
Speaker 2: There's always been some kids here because it's close to the schools and whatnot.
Speaker 3: And so the kids are here like it's just is the Emily neighborhood.
Speaker 2: It's really just a lot of people who are work hard working, you know, households. And Susan loved to throw on a racist dig every time she called a cop for no reason.
Speaker 3: Well, her boyfriend was, you know, keeping the house dirty, how you know that right? And keeping his here? And I told her, I told him to clean it up. So did you talk to them or not?
Speaker 1: You're right, was she yelling at you or not?
Speaker 3: Like, I don't understand. And so I told him to clean it up. So she calls. So this little boy.
Speaker 2: He can't get dipad because Susan is a miserable bitch, and so he goes to his mama, which is also what both the parents and the cops.
Speaker 3: Told the children to do. Right, These kids do not address this lady.
Speaker 2: They literally go home and tell their parents after she verbally accosts them every single time, and they're supposed to The mom said that, Acchaka said that, and the cops said the next time, you just don't even engage with her, go and get an adult. And that's exactly what they what happened. So he goes to get his mom and trigger warning. The next footage literally that you see is this baby sobbing at the next door neighbor's house.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm lively gonna cry again.
Speaker 2: The next door neighbor's house asking for someone to call the cops because she shot his mom. Like he's shocked and confused. He's waiting outside and they have cameras, yep, which is how we can see it. They have cameras,
Speaker 2: and so he's crying. He tells the friend to go get his mom and call the cops. He does everything right. I mean, these kids did everything right, and that's kind of They were clearly well raised and well taught. They knew to get an adult. The adult is, you know, also hysterical because what do you mean they shot my neighbor friend mom for what? And throughout the documentary, we're getting a lot of character information about Algica. She is was a manager of a McDonald's. She worked really hard. She was a single mom.
Speaker 1: Well, she always changed so she can watch the kids whenever she needed to kids.
Speaker 3: They were like, no, we know.
Speaker 2: She didn't play about them kids like she like, I cannot work this one. I can do this one because I gotta be with my kids. She showed up for her children. She was outside almost all the time, which is.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: And she goes over and she's had and I understand she was being a mom. I have seen plenty a Lindsey, Susan, Karen Karina do the exact same thing over their kid, and I don't judge it.
Speaker 3: It's your kid. She went over there saying like bang bang bang.
Speaker 2: And how we know this is because they actually interview and give us neighbor confirmation and their statements first before we get Susan's, before we even hear about Susan, the other neighbors all let you know that whatever she's saying could not be corroborated. And this is what actually happened. So about three or four different voices tell the you know, the different interview situations that there was like three bangs on the door they were big bangs, three bangs. Not knock knock, open up or give my son back his iPad like you have something of mine, bitch, open up right and knock knock, knock, knock, knock, you open up like I need to give him back his iPad.
Speaker 3: Come outside. I'm seriously maybe I will beat your ass. I don't know. They the neighbors did not necessarily say they heard her say that. They really didn't.
Speaker 2: You only got off like two clean, not real good raps and then a couple of one bitch and two demands.
Speaker 1: Before quick encounter, real quick, and they.
Speaker 3: Say they heard of silence and then a bang and it sounded like a gun went off. Yep. And we find out that through a locked door.
Speaker 1: Yep. Most important part knowing who it was.
Speaker 2: Why you didn't get your cellular device and start recording right again, all the ways you could have done anything but just be a murderer like you could have if you wanted to make it work. I'm just saying, if you wanted to make it work, you could at least make an argument that I recorded it because I was so scared. So even though she may not have said I'm gonna you in the phase sixteen times. It felt like she was going to so I will say this and you we can't sure. I can't take that from you, but you know that you got you got.
Speaker 1: The blinky the blaky immediate and then tried to throw it in the trash afterwards.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you know you're wrong, right, Okay, she gets the blinking.
Speaker 2: She shoots the lady through the door while this lady is still at her door, which she knows because she's definitely through the people.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you could just not.
Speaker 2: But she shoots this woman again in front of the children, and the children are outside and near their house enough that they can see because all these homes and duplexus are in a regular ass neighborhood, so they're close enough.
Speaker 3: That people are seeing this. They're hearing this encounter in exchange, and they are confused by the gunshot, not the interaction.
Speaker 2: They all are like, the parents go off on this lady because she always calls the cops on their kids for playing kickball.
Speaker 3: Dad asked that suspentence.
Speaker 2: So with that, she's the pulse is week you see multiple children crying, you do, babe? This woman on the ground trying to receive aid and support the cops do get there relatively fast because Susan also her dumb ass.
Speaker 3: Calls now one one which she should have.
Speaker 2: It's the only thing she did right because and I'm not saying she should have because like she doing the right thing, or I expect her to be a good person. It's because that's the only way they can prove that you didn't premeditate this on your aid or call the cops. It's like, girl, you going down for intentional that's her first degree. Like you can't kno fall, especially even in the standard ground state. You're supposed to call and be like, oh my god, I was so afraid. All across the street threatened to come and beat me up.
Speaker 3: But she didn't.
Speaker 2: But no, she was digging down. She was trying to beat down my door. That story changed about three times, Kendrick, tell us what you want in a statement interview from miss Susan Lauretz. What what does she say happened?
Speaker 1: They take her to the police station.
Speaker 4: She gives this whole dramatic ass diatribe about how she was banging.
Speaker 3: On the door.
Speaker 4: You know, I just I you know, when you're in this kind of state, you don't know how long it actually is, and it was, you know, it felt like it was forever. She was threatening me and she was doing all of this, and I went and got my gun. I definite, yes, it was me that shot her. But it was because I was afraid from my life. I didn't know what she was gonna do to me, and I was so scared, and she was banging and banging, and she would not stop banging on the door. She was trying to come in all this good bullshit that she'spewing.
Speaker 4: And of course that's one interrogation of this whole thing. And at some point, of course, you know, even though she had missed the shoe, she does get to go wherever they else.
Speaker 1: I think she get puts up in a.
Speaker 4: Hotel that night, and so they take her by say.
Speaker 3: I don't think you should go back there and stay there. She goes. I don't either, I'm too afraid. Oh okay.
Speaker 2: So the children who just saw an adult that they love gets shot for trying to be an adult, and that teaches all the children to never ask their parents for.
Speaker 3: Help again, because they could die and they don't. It's not worth it.
Speaker 2: Like excuse him for doing the right thing. So they will escort you back, attack some bags. Some things I noticed here for the crime junkies and whatnot out there for y'all will be.
Speaker 3: Listening to ashing my girl print.
Speaker 2: Yet some things family was able to be called one. Yes there literally the little boy couldn't even be brained. They couldn't didn't have enough time to brainwash him. The little like nephew that comes or grandson that comes or whatever, because he's like, guns are dangerous.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, everywhere. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: The mom is like yeah, she's like, you know, guns are useful when they're necessary or something like that. He has to excuse the behavior and then says thing number two. I tried to clean up as much as I could yep. And I said, wait a minute, it's a crime scene, right, clean up what We don't know what happened yet she's dead and you're choosing to investigate those Though they didn't indict her right away, they did say they are investigating.
Speaker 1: Right, you're literally tampering with the crime scene actively on purpose that.
Speaker 3: It's giving okay.
Speaker 2: The head cop in charge of the investigation, though he hadn't indicted yet, he even said like I'm a I'm a dad, if I if my kid iPad was stolen or something like that, I too would go get it.
Speaker 3: And I'd like I would be and I'm like, hello, nobody gets it. He's like, so we do need to investigate it.
Speaker 2: So then this lady, god damn Susan, like she is escorted back home. Her family is there, they've cleaned up the scene. She can get some stuff from her from her closet or whatever, and like and.
Speaker 3: Both her cats.
Speaker 2: She tells the officers like, she's allowed to put on clothes when she's every time she's apprehended or they keep coming up in there, She's given all these luxuries. She tried to throw the down away because they let her like get dressed every time that she gets coops called and she said, well let me go inside. My cats close the door. So she gets her cats to take her pets with you. You commit, you shoot somebody, don't know what happened, is sure, but you shoot somebody and you're allowed to go get your cats and.
Speaker 1: Go to well Hilton and get manslaughter. That's crazy to me. That's crazy to me.
Speaker 2: Okay, Wow, she gets slept off with that, and the investigation goes sous out there you know she's doing our thing, you know, because she's hanging out having a time. You know, I want to press charges and do the things. But yet you're the one who keeps getting arrested.
Speaker 1: Sis.
Speaker 2: Literally they keep detaining you, right, but they keep telling you're not under arrest, and like, that's so sweet, you're so kind, But I do have to detain you because you have a gun and you shot it.
Speaker 3: Try no de escalation at all.
Speaker 2: She says in her statement that she did say to old girl at some point, I will not come out and talk to you. Leave me alone or leave the premises or whatever. None of the neighbors heard that, but maybe because she was inside.
Speaker 4: That's also one of the best things about this is that their neighborhood is so communal with deceptions. Susan raggedy ass that literally, when they went around to collect statements, everybody was on one accord.
Speaker 1: Everybody's like, I didn't hear nothing. I didn't hear none of that court too, They're like, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, like they go to bed before sex and the city even come on, Like what you're talking, right, It's ten o'clock. You know, the girls aren't even known yet and you're talking about outside trespassing, killing you, threatening to come and have somebody else kill you, beat you up, toss you around. Then why ain't nobody done it yet? Susan, I'm sorry because if we got people call right, well, you got hit her as you call him. Beyonce said it mm hmm every time shout out to the Carters. Also, don't listen to it.
Speaker 3: It's good.
Speaker 4: It's my ship, you know ship. Let's make love in the summer time. Okay, that's my ship.
Speaker 3: You don't put the dope imine right back, my friends.
Speaker 2: I love it, cratch that I mean, okay, everything is love is such such a good album. That is the Mona Lisa of Mona Lisa's It's so good, So in love the Carters as a recording, I mean, the Grammys spoke for themselves.
Speaker 3: See my girl Kijabe no no, no, yes, I will send to you.
Speaker 2: There has been a photo circulating, okay, with a head covering. We don't necessarily know what it is or for why, because you know, she don't talk to us about her religious in her life, you know, anything outside of what the music and the visual say.
Speaker 3: And sometimes you are the visuals. Okay, the other one so right. I guess we're not getting them right.
Speaker 2: So the girlies are believing her hair has been died black, which is coinciding with TikTok about two months ago, right after Cowboy Carter tour ended, where she had a all black wig on the floor of the stage and it was giving kiss vibes, it was giving rock and roll. And then two of the Renaissance and Cowboy Carter dancers, after they got their Louis Baton luggage as a thank you, but shout out to my queen, okay, okay, a piece,
Speaker 2: she said, because we're going on tour boo okay, right, And so then they dyed their hair. About two girls got clocked. Two people got clocked with black hair a couple of months ago, and so now the girlies are like, either she is officially committed to Islam, some religion that covers her hair, and I doubt that because she wore one piece every day of the last two years.
Speaker 3: Showing okay, show yeah, or she's covering black hair. So it's just giving you afreak. Guys. You know you know what.
Speaker 4: I didn't even like blink an eye because when I saw the caption, said Beyonce, spotted out in and it was someone where they wear jobs on a daily basis.
Speaker 1: So I was like.
Speaker 2: By and them, Yep, do require women to have had coverings. If you remember back to housees of Beverly Hills when they went to Dubai like some a single digit season, I almost feel like it was.
Speaker 1: A while ago send the girls on trips like that, but.
Speaker 3: They started doing it fraud across the rod.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tahoe, you can't afford you'll.
Speaker 3: Not coming back litigation.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be if you're not allowed back in the country from wherever the hell over, like the Caribbean, because somewhere else we can't afford it.
Speaker 3: So I remember they had to be they were driven around the mall. I don't know if that's still the case you guys in Dubai in the area.
Speaker 2: Well as CEC can let us know shout out to c C loves you, hey girl, or you know, they couldn't They couldn't drive and they had to cover their heads. The only thing I'm saying, I raise you how strict I'd like to know for those who know how strict is the covering because the girls the Very Hills coverings weren't that tight.
Speaker 3: I remember it. I said, well, that's not the same thing.
Speaker 2: It wasn't enough, but like it was right to standard be fashionable, which was fine because they were in like a very fine, fantastic best in the world.
Speaker 3: Mall be covered everything. I prow yeah, like everything, like you can't do nothing.
Speaker 2: So again, either job well disn or we are we might be prepping for something. And just in case, justin kisses both put them quarters away. Child, you might helping me for a while, but this, if this is happening, so okay, I'm sorry, y'all.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get back to it.
Speaker 1: Susan, the one in this pitch is a lot of women in this picture. She don't want what to wrap on.
Speaker 2: Okay, yep, y'all better put away more than a quarter, put away a dollar, a dollar, okay, come on, Rocky,
Speaker 2: you know, just is it ten cents a day? And I was a kid, I was like, that's kind of a lot of money if you think about it, my life, you're talking about fifteen cents.
Speaker 1: A day, true, little girl, Like, okay.
Speaker 3: This song says it's thirty one days in September. That's a lot of set. That's a lot of fifteen.
Speaker 2: Cents o't okay, so, but like y'all need to hurt from the way a dollar or two right now.
Speaker 3: It's probably a good idea.
Speaker 4: We'll get the album next year, but you know the tour is coming soon after, probably forty seven early, so get ready.
Speaker 2: Okay, if she does, I'm about to retire tour. Oh god, your residency. So it's gonna be and it's gonna be well if she does, like it's gonna be Beyonce's Greatest Hits tour and all the fun things.
Speaker 3: And then in the middle of that tour she drops Act three because she's done that before.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: And I was there and I was like that, thank god, my ticket is after this album came out because I was going anyway.
Speaker 2: But like what happened with the carters, like that happens a lot, or when she got something major.
Speaker 3: Like a deal or something with some girls and doing the thing. So we could get a tour, we.
Speaker 2: Could get an album, we could get a residency, we could get all three. All I'm seeing between twenty five cents and a dollar fifty. We should start putting that away, Tom, you just you just do Yeah. I heard like like wait, women, but love you love you down, you get it, okay, especially when you know y'all be having a good skin and a good ally ship.
Speaker 3: And I like that, Like y'all go to Cowboy Carter as.
Speaker 2: If it was so easy the first time, like we know, but they were like, no, if y'all haven't gone, it's literally the best thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: I was invigorated. I was electrified. It was amazing.
Speaker 2: I don't want to go, So just in case you want to go, maybe just put it away now so that when you eventually want to go after you can have power to change your mind. It's all I'm saying. Okay,
Speaker 2: some of us, so you know, we're all balling on a budget. We all got to do our thing in these hard time. Maybe that's why Susan couldn't afford a camera to validate any of her stories. Turt murder, but you said she got something else instead, not make it. Unfortunately, that comes a little later. They actually send her off to the hospital with a week but with a sufficient aid. They said to make it. And sometime later so the police department calls the dad to come down and get them, and I shout out to this dad because he clopped it.
Speaker 2: He ain't even get out the car and he was on it, on it, on it, dad duty, Like those are the hard Those were even the harder moments than the kids just crying like kids weren't even her kids just sobbing because they're like, right, die what oh God, like this is.
Speaker 3: In front of children, This is so unnecessary.
Speaker 2: But the dad and immediately it's holding them so that they don't fall apart, like they don't you know, use their bodies in the way.
Speaker 3: They could also get them in trouble.
Speaker 2: Like I clocked that too, as a black dad of a lot of these boys and these kids, a lot of these kids. He has our boys, I think there's three and they the boys are black, and our preteen or teenagers. And when they hear like they tell the cops, tell the father, and the father tells the children that Ajica, Ajica did not make it.
Speaker 3: That uh.
Speaker 2: He words it as that, you know, I love you know, we love each other like we love mom, right and Mom loves us, and they're like, yeah, she goes, so Mom's not coming back, and I mean I broke. I was like, oh God, I want to, I want to, I want to, I want to fight. I'm saying, I want to do this, Why not her.
Speaker 3: Free?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: And I think it was the oldest one. They asked him something. He said, no, but my heart is broken, and oh boy, they did.
Speaker 2: They asked him a question. They're like, are you are Like, oh my god, I forget what it was, but I do remember that. I said, that's all I can think about. I was like, and he was just talking about at that time, his mom was witnessing, like, no, his mom is dead because and they just immediately blame themselves and talking about how bad and guilty they feel and how they should not have like I shouldn't have left the iPad and it's like and I shouldn't have gone to get mom and told her to go get it.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, also, what kind of whooping would they have gotten or trouble would they have gotten it if they left the iPad outside in the grass and in Florida?
Speaker 3: Right, Like iPads are expensive, obviously, everyone.
Speaker 2: And doing their best and making it work with multiple children per household, right, everybody is doing their best, not enough to iPads be like left outside overnight. He was doing the responsible thing and he was It's like and they felt so guilty, and that can change a kid from like well responsible good things. This is what breaks innocence. It's like, well then fuck that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: The dad holds both of them immediately to his chest, like both boys, so that they don't because they immediately want to run away, you know. And I appreciate that he's allowing them to emote, but he's giving them a safe space to do it. I know some people might differ on like letting them breathe, but like, also we're seeing this footage through body cams, which is that there's about four to six cops around the situation at all times watching this happen. So maybe the dad is just trying to make sure they don't get into any like it, do anything, because you don't know what grief does these babies just like on a random Tuesday or whatever.
Speaker 1: Like literally for playing football.
Speaker 3: Like that's really it.
Speaker 2: Like I really kept looking for something. I was like, did they throw a walk accidentally?
Speaker 3: No? Did they ask anything?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: The iPad. She was waiting for them to actually do something.
Speaker 1: They called her sharing for a reason. She didn't need a reason to do shit that.
Speaker 2: She was No, it was like that bird watching situation back in the day where she was like, you know, you shouldn't have a dog unleashed. This is a private, you know park, or this is a fancy park with it's like a natural wildlife reserve or something, and she went off on that man and whatever and like girl, Karen behavior, calm down, what is wrong with you? Like they really tried to ask her. Shout out to that white mama who has the cute little mixed kids, who knocks on the police uses her privilege appropriately.
Speaker 2: That's why I feel because it is not to be mistaken that she walked her ass up to the cop car, knocked on the window to Susan said hey, hello, knocked again Hello. No that she's not scared for her life, right, why did you shoot her? Why did you shoot that woman?
Speaker 3: She's a mom, she has kids?
Speaker 1: How did you do that?
Speaker 3: Like because I was afraid for my life?
Speaker 1: No you aren't, Like, just no, you weren't.
Speaker 2: I had to ask her because the cops kep trying to listen to her story and like, so I just how long you said? How long she was going to break in? I'm not hearing the break in part though, run back from me again. They make her repeated at least.
Speaker 3: Twice this shit ooh.
Speaker 4: And literally the best part was when they came back to the neighborhood when you know, the when the grandson was trying to clock tea and they were like, oh, no, no, no, you know you get that whole part. The entire neighborhood. You could just hear a chorus of all of them being like, why the fuck are you here?
Speaker 1: Why are you here?
Speaker 3: You a murderer?
Speaker 1: You killed her?
Speaker 4: Everybody literally echoing in the background. I'm like, this is beautiful. I'm y'all and came together for her, her kids.
Speaker 3: Get this exactly again.
Speaker 2: The people on the phone, and I'm not clocking anybody's sound, but let me just say so many people on the phone on the cop calls when they heard the gunshot, and they did the right thing and called nine one one because they were you know, sounded like Caucasian voices of both genders, to which I appreciated because also they too clocked in with the allyship and was like one man even was like, she's always like yelling at those kids and calling the.
Speaker 3: Cops on those kids.
Speaker 2: And so one of the moms went over there and knocked on the door and like but she's always yelling at them kids, right, Jo is mad at them children for playing. So I think they was playing a little too close again and she shot her. I like, we don't know, but maybe y'all come out here, they said. Multiple clothes were made. Yes, I appreciated the community being like, no, what we're not gonna do is gunshots. We don't even do that.
Speaker 3: They as so shook. So for you to be so scared, right, but they're breaking in and gonna kill you, shoot you, murder you.
Speaker 4: The only person in the neighborhood this would happened to, because everyone else seems to have an amazing relationship with these kids and just incredibly well behaved kids.
Speaker 2: These kids that are little and well raised, like they're doing being children, Like they're just playing frisbee and whatnot with the scooters.
Speaker 3: We're eleven. Can't get over it. The baby is combing the dolls hair.
Speaker 2: What do you mean she's trying to threaten to kill you,
Speaker 2: So they lady, they calling her all kyps of you know, murderer and whatnot, because she's Roman free. She shot through the door like the children had to see it. They tell her that she you know that she didn't a Jika didn't make it, and she's now shook.
Speaker 3: This is all so much for her, right right, It's been a lot for me, like.
Speaker 4: Write a letter, to write a letter. I'm sorry kids you had to grow up without your mom. I am sorry about knocked on my door.
Speaker 3: And I didn't just tell her to go to hell if you don't learn.
Speaker 1: To use your words right.
Speaker 2: And talk it off so early with her claiming to be the perfect neighbor because she doesn't go outside, she doesn't bother anybody, she works, right, I've seen you outside a lot, Susan, bothering people the right sense. I mean that man with the fence is actually really bothered by you, so his fences. So she gets charged with manslaughter.
Speaker 1: You can't make this shit up. That's it. You can't make this shit up.
Speaker 3: It's like George Zimmerman all over again.
Speaker 4: And I truly believe she got charged with manslaughter because they didn't want anything getting in the way of the damn standard ground law. They didn't want anything saying like, you know what, maybe this isn't the best law that we have, Maybe this shouldn't be a real thing, Maybe this should probably go away. A lot of people seem to be getting killed, a lot of black and brown people seem to be getting killed because of his law, and no one gives a fuck.
Speaker 1: No one gives it, damn not in Florida.
Speaker 2: So she gets charged. She was charged in twenty twenty four with manslaughter and was found guilty with a firearm and she's now serving a twenty five year prison sentence.
Speaker 3: Is it enough your thoughts?
Speaker 4: Uh? No, we should be debating whether or not they should put on death row or not, right, like, what are we doing it?
Speaker 3: Truly?
Speaker 1: Because you need to live with that ship exactly. You need to live with that. No death row, You need to deal with that.
Speaker 2: I don't even want you to even think that you're gonna die one day outside of whatever calls you, because you'll have to just live with this for the rest uh huh.
Speaker 3: And so with any luck, you can make it a little bit gurly pop. But right, twenty five years not nearly enough for me Florida prison.
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, let me look up actually, because I'm wondering what's the maximum for manslaughter in Florida.
Speaker 2: Let me see, that's the best question, because if it's not that that she got I don't want to know.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't want it. I really don't. It's a twenty five sentence doesn't seem like enough, so he says.
Speaker 4: In Florida, the maximum penalty for simple manslaw is fifteen years, as it's a second degree feltony. However, a maximum can increase to thirty years in prison for aggravated man sar, which is what I'm hoping this.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what.
Speaker 3: Is man's daughter with a firearm, So it was aggregation.
Speaker 4: You could have gave her another five. So I don't know what I mean, twenty five came from. Don't what was what was the why?
Speaker 3: Why she little QC discount? Like was it time, sir?
Speaker 1: But she ain't dead damn long?
Speaker 2: So I mean we'll see, Like the this woman's oldest child again is a preteen, maybe an early teen.
Speaker 3: Right, and then so she and she is younger, so they're gonna have to really.
Speaker 2: Grow up real fast when they shouldn't have had to because they like to play football and do TikTok dances.
Speaker 3: Just all that silly kid you know shit literally jumps encouraged it.
Speaker 2: They were like, we don't even know why she's calling us like the Times even called it. I met her with skepticism, like they were constantly skeptical because they were just like, I just don't understand what you're saying. The problem is right, so you're telling me you feel for your life because they threatened to kill you, shoot you. But yet when you tell the story, it sounds like they were outside throwing a football and you didn't like it.
Speaker 3: You yelled to go away.
Speaker 1: Bingo.
Speaker 3: You didn't even come up with another a good enough lie.
Speaker 2: Like the story is kept changing constantly because the details didn't add up.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 2: The dog, she used her hands to show us the size, literally like a little small dog. You don't even know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: There her ass under the jails matter, and I hold it.
Speaker 4: I know they got cable because listen, you know, if y'all know anybody in jail, they will call you and tell you about them stories every day if they can. So I know they got cable in there. I know they got them, some young and restless and my home, my children.
Speaker 3: I know they got there.
Speaker 1: I need them to get Netflix in jail.
Speaker 4: Just give it to them for a little while, just so they can watch this documentary, because I need them to handle her ass appropriately.
Speaker 3: Yes, she literally.
Speaker 2: The one the baby who says we're eleven. I just looked and saw it's because she accused them of trying to steal her truck. The cop asked him flat out, can any of you even drive? And one could take a lollipop out of his mouth?
Speaker 3: It no, they say, you can't even her face. She's so young and on a little razor scooter.
Speaker 1: Literally, why girl, why would they have the scooter? Think about it right right?
Speaker 2: Oh, showing the children a gun, she did this more than once to meditation.
Speaker 1: That's exactly, that's something exactly.
Speaker 3: Where's the other five? I would like to add him?
Speaker 1: I really would truly the.
Speaker 3: Children the gun. She basically primed them for this moment.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, oh yes, oh.
Speaker 3: Netflix did. Actually it was a Sundance film and it won. Yes, and them did a wonderful job.
Speaker 2: Putting this together to really show that this lady was absolutely cuckoo banana pants and nuts so racist, awful, asshole, terrible Susan Karen.
Speaker 3: Yes, there's not enough words.
Speaker 4: Oh no, not nearly enough. If y'all learn, you know, because I know, like sometimes people will listen and then choose to watch whatever we like talk about. If you are going to watch this, I implore you to listen. It's very much a trigger warning type of thing because you are getting first hand account about everything. This is literally body camp footage that you're watching this entire time, So right, you've got to go in knowing exactly what you're getting because it's gonna be hard for a lot of people to handle this.
Speaker 1: It's not an easy watch.
Speaker 4: It's I would say it's a necessary one though, because a lot of people don't understand what people in this country go through simply from trying to have joy, literally trying to have joy on a daily basis.
Speaker 2: Why we have books, why people like about how to teach your kids, like about when they're gonna get pulled over and or maybe shot or have a gun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just because they are outside being like or inside.
Speaker 2: Being no yea, So that being a thing literally like us having to call people like this being a thing like people being afraid to go outside. Why we hashtag black boy joy that's pro magic is because there has never been a space where safely we can do anything with a little bit hum for our lives, like since we got here and since then. So in some regards. It's like insane because these kids are at home playing outside.
Speaker 1: Again. I want to stress this because she doesn't, yeah, have the porch.
Speaker 3: Like I just don't even.
Speaker 2: Just the prosecutor says something to that really got me.
Speaker 2: She claimed that the police fail the community. She said, quote, the police don't have to come in guns blazing and beating people to still have failed the community. And if you can pick up a gun, this is to Susan, you can pick up a gun to solve a trivial dispute with your neighbor, what else are you capable of? I would like to know, truly, question you just hear like, I bet you? Oh yeah, ago, did anybody die?
Speaker 1: They find two guns? Did they find two guns in her house?
Speaker 5: See?
Speaker 2: And mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Under there give it the extra five and locked her ass under there two years?
Speaker 3: Two years she was doing this.
Speaker 1: Because now my next question, when is Susan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, Susan, I'm when she's elegent for parole because I want to be at that meeting.
Speaker 3: I do. I would like because I'm affected. I'm affected by yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people think that the police still should have taken action against her. Susan Lawrence earlier's not eligible the House and numerous calls to emergency services for non emergencies.
Speaker 3: Again, waste of money.
Speaker 1: Yep, she is not eligible for parole.
Speaker 2: So and you want to know what the only reason I'm also say she should not get the death penalty is because that's very expensive. It's actually really expensive for taxes, like to pay for an execution. And let's not even get into how y'all state is like so contradicting and being so pro life, but y'all are pro deaths. Yeah, but like it's super expensive, and I feel like she's cost the taxpayers of that state enough. Yeah, just two years worth of bodycam footage they dispatched two years.
Speaker 3: Worth to my house because children are playing football.
Speaker 2: Can't express to y'all enough how absolutely nutstate is to watch this, but how absolutely necessary it is because that kind of emotion I think I needed to feel to understand also the plight of people in places like I've been pulled over by cops and I don't. It's probably one of the scariest things that have happened to me. But I'm fortunate enough that has not happened enough or that many times or often I've not had that many and all of my encounters have also been fine with police officers.
Speaker 3: And I live in an area where fortunate enough.
Speaker 2: At least pre right now, right now on the DMV is in some stress with all the people in a uniform of some sort.
Speaker 3: But and that's not our fault.
Speaker 2: But it's like I've been nervous, but it's never been I've never lived in a place where it's like rampant to this point where I had to fear for like the what is it the NAA has Florida.
Speaker 3: When to watch this was like a not safe place for black people.
Speaker 1: Literally, we having to do a new version of like the Travelers Green Book.
Speaker 3: For real, it's on their travel list. I said, wait right, like the place right right, like what the niggas is already there? Will you talk about? Please help?
Speaker 2: So it's like, oh no, just I'm glad you found out that she's not eligible for parole. So it's just and she's already cost us enough text and just put her in the smallest cell possible.
Speaker 3: Put her in there with somebody who.
Speaker 1: Put in solitary confinements.
Speaker 2: Actually better for her safety, You're right, because she might get taken out too quickly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for Susie girl up and there.
Speaker 1: Only one to day, one hour yard. That's all she made, That's all she needs.
Speaker 3: She talked about. She likes to be inside, she says, she stay inside.
Speaker 2: You wish, and you got your wish, and you cannot interact with the others and the blacks.
Speaker 3: That's it. You know, you're good.
Speaker 2: You can go sit in your nice little white cell that you were.
Speaker 3: White, so bad white for by four walls exactly. Listen, I cried this morning.
Speaker 2: It started my day differently, I you know, have definitely I couldn't recommend it enough. I think I've talked to like seventeen people about it and how I was like captivated by watching it. And honestly, it's the first time I think that, at the very least, Florida got something closer to right.
Speaker 1: Yeah than before we have come off.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because listen, I thought we were gonna get another Georgie Zammerman. Because, to be honest, I let true crime documentary so much. I didn't even know which case this was. I know about so many cases I just could play, so I didn't even know who died. I thought it was gonna be one of the kids.
Speaker 3: This was worse to me.
Speaker 2: For me, this was what the trauma of a child having to experience their mother dying, the trauma of other children having to experience it.
Speaker 1: Happened to go through the rest of his life thinking it's his fault. Not fair.
Speaker 2: Rotten hell like literally truly really rotten hell like first class ticket.
Speaker 3: Nothing grow on top of your grave like I wanted. I wanted. I wanted to look ugly. I do like right on the inside any out.
Speaker 4: And I want to make sure they get Because she was so concerned about the damn heart medication, make sure you give it to her regularly.
Speaker 1: I want her to. I want her to serve about as many of them twenty five as she can.
Speaker 3: She can make it. We can do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can get there.
Speaker 3: We can get there.
Speaker 1: They said that house poking beings and the wings are good, So you can you can make it. You will be all right.
Speaker 2: My nana was once really great friends with a woman who owned like the like am like, the food catering company for a prison in Nevada. She had all the contracts and I'm like, she showed me the menu and at the time me a fourth grader at the time, very impressed.
Speaker 3: Right, balance, it was right. Most of the said I would not want to eat this, but oh god, I don't mean she told me.
Speaker 2: But for the circumstances, you know, she told me, don't the president and I don't have to. And I said, you're right, And then she handed me a knock off Louis vaiton bag.
Speaker 3: I kept it.
Speaker 1: There you go, No one don't care.
Speaker 2: You get a moral a morality lesson and a bag. Okay, okay, I said a good day, and I had great Thanksgiving dinner. It was for Thanksgiving. I was in Las Vegas, and so I was like, oh good food, not in prison, and a bag. Okay, Christmas, I've been living out.
Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna hold y'all.
Speaker 1: Really, there you go like.
Speaker 3: Eight minutes of sixty days and for me, and I wasn't scared. I just simply don't want it. I don't want it. Let me crevices.
Speaker 2: Like if I was Susan, I'd be nervous because I've got so many crevices. And don't look she cleaned that much anyway, But I'd be like, what you mean, you gotta tell me when the shower. I don't I don't understand that right, you know, yea, even though I already took.
Speaker 1: One right five minutes, Like, what.
Speaker 3: There's a time of what you're talking about? Use me?
Speaker 2: What are these stays? And I love a sixty Days in Honey. I even watch that and I'm like, what are those stains? It reminds me never ever shall I go? And maybe y'all in Florida, most of y'all should just not stand your ground.
Speaker 3: You should really, I'm here to tell you because it's you might be going to jail these days.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You come a long way from George Zimmerman. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Soon grandkids will be visiting her there and little baby will also say guns are dangerous.
Speaker 1: You live in Proof. You live in Proof.
Speaker 3: Yeah you Grandy's We're back there. Orange is terrible on you.
Speaker 2: Okay, And I'm done talking about this raggedy white woman.
Speaker 3: I hate her so much.
Speaker 2: Shout out the non raggedy white women out there who are listening. I'm proud of you, girlies. Be the change you want to see in the world. Call tell the cops. Yes, okay, be a witness and give a statement, because odds are you can handle whatever comes with it and whatever comes from it, and you might be helping somebody out. Be the lady who knocks on the cop window and asks the girl, why did you shoot that woman?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 3: Why did you shoot her? Hello?
Speaker 1: Hello, call the cops, but don't call them every day like that.
Speaker 2: He don't do that and definitely not the children. Don't be racist. I can't stop telling people's stuff.
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Speaker 3: Stop.
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Speaker 3: I'm reasonable.
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