Field Dispatch
True Crime in The Mix- Netflix's The Perfect Neighbor w/Kendrick (@withkendricktucker)
Field Notes
Sprinkling some true crime in The Mix! Host of the I Ken Not podcast, Kendrick Tucker and Mani tackle the new Sundance acclaimed documentary The Perfect Neighbor. This is the story of the death of mom Ajike Owens at the hands of Florida woman Susan Lorincz over the retrieval of Ajike's son's ipad; after years of tension brewing between the community and this lady over the differences between trespassing and playing. The thoughts are saved for the audio but boy are there PLENTY of thoughts and opinions about this documentary and this case overall.
Warning: it is a TEAR JERKER! But also incredibly worth the watch and some conversation about the decisions of all involved from director to police department to Suze herself. Pour something strong and come mix it up!
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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologist. It is your girl, momy.
Speaker 2: What is up with sh'all? I'll tell you what is
Speaker 2: up with me? It's episode two in one week, crazy
Speaker 2: double the amount of content because so many things are
Speaker 2: on the television. And while I'm having a great time
Speaker 2: in the Bravo Vortex, y'all also know that I am
Speaker 2: a true crime girly. I am a documentary girly, and
Speaker 2: so that means and y'all know who else is? That's
Speaker 2: Kendrick Big can not the little one, as it says
Speaker 2: on my screen. Right now, host of I cannot with
Speaker 2: Kendrick Tucker. I have Kendrick back to talk the true crime.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited.
Speaker 3: How are you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm good, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 4: So you know it's just, oh, listen, we take our
Speaker 4: joy where we can. This was not a joyful documentary,
Speaker 4: but you know what, between Salt Lake City and Potomac,
Speaker 4: I'm okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, every once in a while you gotta step back
Speaker 2: into reality and figure out which terriblely racist white women
Speaker 2: we gotta curse out every week, like who's out?
Speaker 1: Definitely got it?
Speaker 3: This week, we got it last time. It was Kendra
Speaker 3: over there with the call, the call, what's it called?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, bananas.
Speaker 2: If y'all want to know more about that, if you
Speaker 2: just recently watched it, please go ahead and listen to
Speaker 2: me and Kendrick's episode about that crazy lady, because I
Speaker 2: still don't know why we didn't talk to her from
Speaker 2: inside of her jail.
Speaker 3: Cell.
Speaker 2: I have no idea why she was able to sit down.
Speaker 2: I would like to press charges myself. With that being said,
Speaker 2: we actually were just even talking about the real true
Speaker 2: crime of George Santos's sentence being commuted, but John Bolton
Speaker 2: getting indicted yesterday and making my commute home like three
Speaker 2: hours longer from DC by way of but that's the
Speaker 2: end to Virginia where that was a long trip, and
Speaker 2: I just want to know was it worth it? Orange
Speaker 2: Man in the White House?
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 2: I don't think it was, especially if you can't, you can't.
Speaker 2: We are living in hilarious times.
Speaker 4: Truly, like it is literally one walking comic strip. I
Speaker 4: don't know what's happening, but.
Speaker 3: Is abundant.
Speaker 2: In fact, I have never seen a better demonstration of
Speaker 2: that then also watching this documentary because I'm just like
Speaker 2: the whole time, almost anytime from the gateway that we're
Speaker 2: going to get into the nitty gritty.
Speaker 3: I got notes and we got thoughts.
Speaker 2: But from the gateway, I was like, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: find this lady's where she's getting this from each ya.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm just trying to figure out where you're
Speaker 3: coming from.
Speaker 2: I don't understand how we jumped from A to B,
Speaker 2: and so as I was having a hard time establishing
Speaker 2: that throughout, I was like, well, whatever she did and
Speaker 2: whoever she did it to, we're gonna have a really
Speaker 2: hard time figuring out why because he jumps from baby.
Speaker 2: I'm like, now, did I miss something I don't understand
Speaker 2: in these cameras?
Speaker 3: If you got all these problems.
Speaker 4: Right, and you know, I just I've had to learn
Speaker 4: over the years at my big age, I just had
Speaker 4: to learn that it starts becoming mental illness with me
Speaker 4: when I try to put a rhyme or reason to racism.
Speaker 4: Because racism, as I've learned from many of people, it
Speaker 4: really requires blind loyalty. You just gotta When you choose
Speaker 4: to be racist, boy, you choose it at.
Speaker 1: Everybody else's expense, Like you just choose to be racist and.
Speaker 2: Did Yeah, she really did, because I've never ever First
Speaker 2: of all, I'm like, then why move there?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Feel like people don't tell you a lot of these
Speaker 2: things beforehand, like realtors and things. They do typically let
Speaker 2: you know that one there are children in the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Two where your property lines are, and they're real. You
Speaker 2: can't make them up. You can't just hide because you
Speaker 2: put a sign somewhere, it means it's your property. When
Speaker 2: the owner of the home himself, yep, it's called on
Speaker 2: the things said. I don't know why she think it's
Speaker 2: that property. There's one that's all.
Speaker 1: Little lot to the left right, and.
Speaker 3: The other big one.
Speaker 2: Not mine, no prayers, not hers, not anybody's. It is
Speaker 2: free for public consumption. But your property is within your fence.
Speaker 2: And if y'all watch it, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Because only her front door is fenced in.
Speaker 3: That's it. That's what. Literally, that's it. That's all right.
Speaker 2: So y'all we're gonna dive into this perfect neighbor situation.
Speaker 2: It is all told. And this is a choice. I
Speaker 2: don't know how I feel about it. I've seen this before,
Speaker 2: but it is a choice to tell the whole thing
Speaker 2: through surveillance footage via the the body cams of the
Speaker 2: police officers, because that lady called the cops on these
Speaker 2: chillren that many times.
Speaker 3: That we have a lot of footage. So I guess
Speaker 3: why if I.
Speaker 2: Were a documentarian, I too, I too would be like, well,
Speaker 2: you know what, we got calls from that lady, we
Speaker 2: might as well go back and use every single goddamn
Speaker 2: one of them.
Speaker 4: You know what, I don't know if you watched this
Speaker 4: one back We need to come out came out in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty. Oh yeah you watched it. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 4: watched it. American Murder, So that was one about Chris.
Speaker 3: Watson, and I remember again last year see.
Speaker 4: Right, and you know that one, Like I heard that
Speaker 4: podcast so many times. But that would actually thought was
Speaker 4: a great choice to do, like because they did that
Speaker 4: one like almost exclusively from bodycam footage too, and so
Speaker 4: we were getting we were seeing the neighbors like as
Speaker 4: he was walking off, they were like, this motherfucker's acting weird,
Speaker 4: like telling the cough like he's acting weird as hell.
Speaker 4: So I like it from because it is definitely a choice.
Speaker 2: But when you have right, that's Christy, Yeah, if you're
Speaker 2: a true crime girly, that's one of the first like that,
Speaker 2: that's something every Yeah podcast has covered.
Speaker 3: The Watts family. You know that family.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's so that's what makes true crime so fascinating
Speaker 2: because like, not is it that, it's not that it's
Speaker 2: necessarily like wow, let's.
Speaker 3: Like this is so cool, let's figure it out.
Speaker 2: It's really like I'm literally having a hard time figuring
Speaker 2: out how you got there, how it ever got to that.
Speaker 3: Point your family. That's so crazy.
Speaker 2: And that's exactly the same thing that happened as we
Speaker 2: sat down and watched this one.
Speaker 1: Yep, it's crazy that for him.
Speaker 4: He it's always crazy to me when a whole married
Speaker 4: man do this kind of stuff because their wife gets
Speaker 4: pregnant with another child. And it's like you doing all
Speaker 4: of that because you don't think you can afford another child.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, if you'll, And that doesn't always mean that
Speaker 2: other choice.
Speaker 3: It can mean an option, it can mean.
Speaker 2: Anything you other than murdering living being already Yeah, wore
Speaker 2: home And yes, it's the same as like, also, if
Speaker 2: you're a true crime person, I you know the story
Speaker 2: of I can't remember who their names are, right now,
Speaker 2: but I've heard it on the three different podcasts. The
Speaker 2: couples who were best friends sometimes may or may not
Speaker 2: have swung, and then the wife of one and the
Speaker 2: husband of the other fall love and she convinces him
Speaker 2: to murder her husband by voting no a duck hunting
Speaker 2: trip and on the boat, oh, best friends the wife
Speaker 2: and then he divorced his actual wife married this lady.
Speaker 2: Then you know what, she didn't want them no more. Eventually,
Speaker 2: like that whole thing, exact same thing. I forget what
Speaker 2: family it is.
Speaker 3: It's been on.
Speaker 2: There are documentaries. It's a whole it's a whole ordeal
Speaker 2: because it took like ten plus years to catch you
Speaker 2: know them, But like, I don't know how y'all get there,
Speaker 2: but it's something that is like, it's gotta be focused
Speaker 2: in on how you can.
Speaker 1: Just which one harshburger the duck.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna literally look up duck hunting murder and
Speaker 2: I'm telling you it will it will come up, yup,
Speaker 2: murder of Mike Williams.
Speaker 1: Knew it, Mike Okay, Okay, okay Williams.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Florida, Oh my god, Kendrick.
Speaker 4: Florida, always Florida you know what, either Florida or Washington state.
Speaker 1: One of those two. It's always them to I don't.
Speaker 3: Know what, like geez.
Speaker 2: The murder of Mike Williams also happened around the Georgia
Speaker 2: Florida state line. His Yeah, he went on a duck
Speaker 2: hunting trip with his best friend early in the morning.
Speaker 2: They were big duck hunters. He was supposed to like
Speaker 2: fall in the water. And the problem was when they
Speaker 2: found his body or something, they said he got eaten
Speaker 2: by gators. That was what tricked people all too it
Speaker 2: being murdered. He had gotten eaten by gators, according to everyone,
Speaker 2: who couldn't find him for days, and he was missing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but every single person in the Everglades or wherever that
Speaker 2: had been eating or fallen in that got eaten by
Speaker 2: gators has shown up and they couldn't find him.
Speaker 3: So then they were like, there's.
Speaker 2: No way he was righting and he was in waiters
Speaker 2: that make him flow or sink, and we can't find
Speaker 2: him right since And then also like they found his jacket,
Speaker 2: but it had.
Speaker 3: No bite marks in it. It was like what So it.
Speaker 2: Was also that them people could get together and and
Speaker 2: and be with each other.
Speaker 3: Why though they were.
Speaker 2: So religious and so against the horse, they thought their
Speaker 2: only way out was murder.
Speaker 1: Insane. The fact that people.
Speaker 4: The truly like the fact that people can be so
Speaker 4: religious that you know, I've always said, you know, people
Speaker 4: choose their sins.
Speaker 1: They choose pick and choose their damn sins.
Speaker 4: They will they would let somebody have a thousand kids
Speaker 4: at of wedlock and just be just as happy as
Speaker 4: a clown.
Speaker 1: But let somebody be gay in the family. Oh, baby,
Speaker 1: that's a whole nother thing.
Speaker 4: I'm like, are you interview listen, ryme.
Speaker 3: That's a crime fourteen for lock.
Speaker 1: Her and boosy up because boy was doing what.
Speaker 3: Are y'all talking about?
Speaker 2: Mama d from Love and hip hop and boozy and
Speaker 2: then I promise y'all get back.
Speaker 3: But love is mama? Are you talking about?
Speaker 2: She? They hiring strippers for their teenage son's birthday parties,
Speaker 2: and the sons are telling y'all we cried.
Speaker 3: We were traumatized.
Speaker 2: I was scared, and you're trying to tell me when
Speaker 2: she said, what you scared of pussy?
Speaker 3: No, ma'am, I'm scared.
Speaker 2: Of my mom kind of hasn't sexually abused as a
Speaker 2: youth truly. That's what I'm that's what I'm afraid of.
Speaker 4: That's I'm pretty sure Boosy took it a step further
Speaker 4: and made the son and woman go further.
Speaker 1: So he's I don't know, but hey.
Speaker 3: Literal are at sign pe.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, yeah, it is very very bad.
Speaker 2: Y'all are making poor choices, like it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: So there's stro crime literally up and in everywhere. So
Speaker 2: at least when they put it in a ninety minute
Speaker 2: package of why I should care and that there is
Speaker 2: a of some kind of regular, regular resolution, that's all
Speaker 2: that matters to me, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 2: so let me tell you, ninety four percent of the
Speaker 2: time I don't like the resolution. That's a low number.
Speaker 2: Ninety nine percent of the time I don't like the resolution.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. I'm here watching the credit on this one.
Speaker 2: Okay, I will tell me. But should did it again?
Speaker 3: Because that's where we're edited, that's.
Speaker 2: Where weating, because listen, y'all, she because the whole thing
Speaker 2: is told through body, can't footage. Because the lady Susan
Speaker 2: Lawrence called the cops so many times because her side
Speaker 2: of the duplex, she claimed was constantly her yard, her property,
Speaker 2: even though she's rinting like everybody else on that block.
Speaker 2: Her property is the like is a yard that is
Speaker 2: adjacent and next to another giant open field. There is
Speaker 2: nothing dividing it, so it is really just about who
Speaker 2: believes what. And every day it seems she wants to
Speaker 2: enforce a new boundary around her home that doesn't exist
Speaker 2: and swear that the kids knowingly are crossing over it.
Speaker 2: And I don't mean just playing on her yard.
Speaker 3: I mean they're door ding.
Speaker 2: Dong ditching even though people like you got cameras and
Speaker 2: that's untrue. Like I'm just afraid from my life and
Speaker 2: the things that she's accusing them for. Let me tell
Speaker 2: you every single time, and I'm made a list of
Speaker 2: what both sides are played every single time. Though she
Speaker 2: calls the cops, the cops also interview the whole neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Literally because this one's always outside.
Speaker 2: The children are all out and there's at least two
Speaker 2: or three adults outside or periodically stepping outside.
Speaker 3: Who when the cops come there, there they're ready.
Speaker 2: She's saying, Susan that they're on supervised and they're running
Speaker 2: all over her property and kicking in and burning.
Speaker 3: Up her signs man, find you again.
Speaker 2: These children are between the ages of nine and fourteen
Speaker 2: at the most.
Speaker 3: I mean some of them.
Speaker 1: There are some younger.
Speaker 3: Some are so young there we can't see their faces. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like hey, no, literally.
Speaker 4: The one the ones she accused of trying to put
Speaker 4: like the poodle in the yard.
Speaker 1: The man is like, do you say how small this
Speaker 1: boy is? He cannot pick that damn dog up?
Speaker 3: Are you get me?
Speaker 2: I've never appreciated Florida cops and I didn't think I would,
Speaker 2: but let me tell you, they call a bullshit on
Speaker 2: this lady. The very first day, kids are playing kickball
Speaker 2: in the yard next to her house and she calls
Speaker 2: the cops, and two come out every single time, two
Speaker 2: cop cars. An enormous amount of cops, more than I
Speaker 2: ever think. They're frustrated, I can tell from mostly yes,
Speaker 2: because they're like, we have to be here because she
Speaker 2: keep calling this yet it's really looking like and giving
Speaker 2: children and playing outside and you don't like it. And
Speaker 2: she at one point even cites the quote unquote law
Speaker 2: that she is entitled to peaceful enjoyment of her property
Speaker 2: and home, and the cops straight up tells their lady
Speaker 2: that's civil. That don't got nothing to do with me.
Speaker 2: I can't enforce any of that shit nothing.
Speaker 1: This is not my day job, saying.
Speaker 2: Of course, it's not like, of course, what are we
Speaker 2: even talking about here? So after she does calls the cops,
Speaker 2: I mean they show us, I would say, the first
Speaker 2: forty five minutes is how many times this lady called
Speaker 2: the cops? Yep, condensed into stints and you see different
Speaker 2: parents give different perspectives, different ones admittingly get into it
Speaker 2: with her because she calls their children multiple names.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, multiple names.
Speaker 4: Did anybody want to guess what she calls the black ones?
Speaker 3: I hope y'all.
Speaker 2: And I love her excuse later on, I mean, if
Speaker 2: it's slipped out, it slipped out.
Speaker 3: But it's all, oh, oh okay, we're not okay.
Speaker 2: It was okay, right, Well, it's not a crime to me,
Speaker 2: that's okay, But.
Speaker 4: Wait, can we talk about that for thing? Because manslaughter
Speaker 4: is crazy to me?
Speaker 2: Manslaughter is but nuts? Wow, a locked door?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: If I shoot you through a locked door and I'm
Speaker 2: only going in for manslaughter, and then I would shoot
Speaker 2: a lot of people through locked doors, that ain't right. Consequences, right,
Speaker 2: y'all don't know, like we're gonna continue to talk about it,
Speaker 2: but I don't want to hold y'all hostage on like
Speaker 2: which oneness is, which case this is? If y'all remember
Speaker 2: a few years back, I think two, we're like at
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three three. Yeah, a mom, a black mom,
Speaker 2: was killed in front of her children, and and and
Speaker 2: that is I can't even so seeing it is a
Speaker 2: big trigger winner for people. But she is killed because
Speaker 2: she went to her neighbor's house because the lady stole
Speaker 2: the iPad from the kids. Basically, she for whatever reason.
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, y'all, it's not that she doesn't
Speaker 2: give reasons. It's that she don't make sense. And none
Speaker 2: of them makes sense a lick of it. Even the cops,
Speaker 2: like I'm trying to follow, say again, they threw you
Speaker 2: threw roller skates, your roller skating at them. You threw
Speaker 2: the roller skates, and but you collected the iPad and
Speaker 2: you took it in the house right when you expect
Speaker 2: the child is somebody to not come get it, child
Speaker 2: or not. I'm also coming at your door pulling up
Speaker 2: what are you doing with my property? But yet you're
Speaker 2: concerned about people on your property line.
Speaker 3: You see what connictions.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it from the documentary people and the people
Speaker 2: who made this here documentary. There were multiple times where
Speaker 2: it seems like what gets her goal is people being
Speaker 2: too close to her house, being yelling and screaming, being
Speaker 2: children of minority race or different socioeconomic status than this
Speaker 2: lady who believes that she deserves to live in this
Speaker 2: mixed ethnic area free of being like addressed at all.
Speaker 2: And so instead of talking to the parents, asking the
Speaker 2: parents to stay on their kids about being quieter, staying
Speaker 2: with Marlan whatever, she calls the cops immediately, so that
Speaker 2: puts everybody on the defense.
Speaker 4: And so which I honestly believe, because you know, people
Speaker 4: say like attributed to karen behavior, I honestly believe she
Speaker 4: watches enough of the news and she thought that those
Speaker 4: cops were gonna come in the situation would escalate, and
Speaker 4: they would do her dirty work for her. They would
Speaker 4: be the one that someone might pull out a gun
Speaker 4: way too fast, and someone might do this, and that
Speaker 4: she was not expecting these cops to show up and
Speaker 4: be actually level headed people and be like, ma'am, you
Speaker 4: bullshitting Do you ask what I don't have to.
Speaker 3: Do a lot of paperwork, right because she was playing kickball.
Speaker 2: I just want to know, like it's Florida, it's only
Speaker 2: we don't have any shortage of real crimes to investigate.
Speaker 2: The nine one one needs to call any of these
Speaker 2: four officers, who I'm telling y'all know less than a
Speaker 2: dozen times.
Speaker 3: One dad even says that it's about twice a week. Yep,
Speaker 3: that's a lot of times to call the cops. You
Speaker 3: can leave.
Speaker 2: Also if you want to consistently file reports and press
Speaker 2: charges multiple times. They're like, so do you want to
Speaker 2: press charges for trespassing or whatever? And she's like, yes,
Speaker 2: I do again. The oldest child is fourteen, the old
Speaker 2: at best, and he's essentially on the porch watching the
Speaker 2: other youngins play. I'm talking, they got scooters. One baby
Speaker 2: girl is talking to the cops and brushing a doll's.
Speaker 4: Hair literally got with balls, literally in the feel not
Speaker 4: on you because you don't don't own nothing skateboards.
Speaker 3: Like they're literally.
Speaker 4: Chilling children of all races too. So it's not even
Speaker 4: just like she's targeting for no reason, because these kids
Speaker 4: are like, yeah, she crazy, We just we just.
Speaker 1: With miss care. They call her Miss Karen, Yeah, miss Karen,
Speaker 1: you know, like, yeah.
Speaker 3: You're over there.
Speaker 2: And even the cops were like back in my day,
Speaker 2: the man would just the cranky person would just come
Speaker 2: out and yell.
Speaker 3: At you and right go home.
Speaker 2: And the black dad is like just and if they
Speaker 2: and that happened, I'm going in and I have to
Speaker 2: get the switch. I'm like, these children are not being unruly, clearly,
Speaker 2: they're all being parented. They interview multiple adults, something that
Speaker 2: this lady doesn't do, and ask what happened. They're getting
Speaker 2: nothing but the same information told different ways from every
Speaker 2: single person on the street, like all the races, all
Speaker 2: the old people that in their houses. Even when it
Speaker 2: comes down to what she alleges was said and done
Speaker 2: when she shot this who she's only had a few
Speaker 2: encounters with, and they've all been hostile because she is
Speaker 2: always yelling at these kids. And this mom said, do
Speaker 2: not talk to my children or any children that way. Yes,
Speaker 2: when I call them the N word, m F first,
Speaker 2: the B word, There's so many things she calls them
Speaker 2: that when the children are telling the cops, they can't
Speaker 2: they won't even say it literally.
Speaker 1: Right, She called me a jack. All the word.
Speaker 5: Clean word, the P word, the F word, and then
Speaker 5: one black parent even said no, a hard e r.
Speaker 2: She calls them like, I've heard it myself many times.
Speaker 2: They're asking the right questions. They're like, so, can you
Speaker 2: tell me what? And they have told the cops have
Speaker 2: told them stay off her property. They're like, we're not
Speaker 2: on it, but okay, right then, and they're like telling
Speaker 2: her their children, we can't arrest them.
Speaker 3: We have to take their side, in your side, and
Speaker 3: she is flummes that right, they even.
Speaker 2: Believe those ratchet hood children exactly, rolls her eyes and
Speaker 2: the falls every time. She's like, well, you know they
Speaker 2: have a story too. When they say that you're also
Speaker 2: being of course, she's like, well she didn't say that
Speaker 2: she grabbed you by the collar or whatever, which is
Speaker 2: every time she the cops come. Susan Dunn added a
Speaker 2: little bit more razzle dazzle.
Speaker 1: You know, Papa, what was.
Speaker 3: Your favorite one? You remember one in your off the
Speaker 3: top of your head.
Speaker 4: I know they kept asking her while you know, we
Speaker 4: can't just take your word for why don't you get
Speaker 4: a camera? I know she never got the damn camera
Speaker 4: because she knew the she was gonna do one day,
Speaker 4: but you had all the little ras every time. Literally
Speaker 4: she They're like, okay, well what they do this time?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, you know what in that damn interrogation room because
Speaker 4: she gave her one story.
Speaker 2: What I tell you, I said I had and I
Speaker 2: had to read the transcript because I was like, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna just sit here and watch this looking like a potato.
Speaker 2: And yes, I'm gonna shame her and her looks because
Speaker 2: you should what I have to say about racist racism
Speaker 2: is bad for the skin. You can get that from
Speaker 2: tea public dot com slash mixing with Money today baby
Speaker 2: on things you like, pillow mugs, t shirt, whatever, time,
Speaker 2: and I get a lot of compliments just I went
Speaker 2: at the home Gooods the other day.
Speaker 3: It's my line, okay, let me drop you.
Speaker 2: And I did write it down for her on her business,
Speaker 2: you know, on my home goods receipt.
Speaker 3: A t J situation.
Speaker 2: I love the girls at home Goods, okay, Yeah to
Speaker 2: budget up in here discounts, okay, make it okay. And
Speaker 2: because I don't care if people play near my house,
Speaker 2: I'm in the house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, give a ship.
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't even.
Speaker 3: Want to subscribe.
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna ask where her empathy is, because
Speaker 2: that would be that was non existent, like where her
Speaker 2: compassionate heart is, Like why didn't you try to come
Speaker 2: outside and talk to these children?
Speaker 3: Why didn't you?
Speaker 1: That's the problem.
Speaker 2: You're not exactly she didn't see any of them as human.
Speaker 3: She claimed that the mom threw a sign at her. Uh.
Speaker 2: The woman that passed away Ajica, she well was murdered
Speaker 2: by this lady, Susan. She claimed that at one point
Speaker 2: in the early parts of her cop calls, that she
Speaker 2: threw her trust no trespassing sign because Susan puts the
Speaker 2: signs in the yard like like for whatever, Like she's
Speaker 2: throwing bread and dugs.
Speaker 3: It's just a little toss here, a little toss there,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: And then she's talking about, oh, they stumped my sign
Speaker 2: out and the mom threw it at my leg and
Speaker 2: it's assault and I want to be and she makes
Speaker 2: them write a report for battery. I said, now, h no,
Speaker 2: you fucking lion, like she tossed it and it hit you, Okay,
Speaker 2: but you also know the difference, and I really need
Speaker 2: you to under She's really upset that the cops are
Speaker 2: not understanding, like they're not just being racist with.
Speaker 1: Her, right, that's what she's.
Speaker 3: Like, You're literally Florida cops.
Speaker 1: Right, like, what's going on?
Speaker 3: Right, I'm dirty, hell lady yelling at me, throwing get it?
Speaker 3: Look right, So, Sir George Zimmerman that ass or something.
Speaker 2: That's what she looked and she did for us.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: One of the claims also by Susan is that kids
Speaker 2: were playing and screaming at her window, calling her all
Speaker 2: kinds of names and whatever, arson and mischief to her, signs.
Speaker 1: Child and.
Speaker 2: The neighbor next door, because again this is a duplex,
Speaker 2: so he actually, we have multiple people who explain the
Speaker 2: logistics of the feels, the yards, the lines, and he's like,
Speaker 2: so she gets that like one lot that looks like
Speaker 2: it would be hers, and that shocket lot that backs
Speaker 2: all the way up to the tree in the park,
Speaker 2: and the next neighborhood.
Speaker 3: Is allowed for kickball and football or whatever.
Speaker 2: Like they're just like anywhere else, literally, and it's a street.
Speaker 2: So they have to drive by or skateboard by, and
Speaker 2: let me tell y'all, if she sees them in her window,
Speaker 2: if they skate past her window, they scooter past her window,
Speaker 2: she calls the cops every time.
Speaker 4: Every time literally the cop and it's not like this
Speaker 4: big multitude like literally she calls so often. This one
Speaker 4: cop comes, she's like to talk to the other cop
Speaker 4: who's already there. He's like, apparently the kids something this woman.
Speaker 4: He said, oh I know, I know.
Speaker 1: It's talk to him.
Speaker 3: Statement.
Speaker 2: One baby girl even goes, we're eleven lucky because at
Speaker 2: one point also claim that this boy who he's walking
Speaker 2: his dog. Essentially what she's describing, She's like, he's I
Speaker 2: called the cops because he was trying to put a
Speaker 2: dog in my truck on my property.
Speaker 3: I parked the car. Now, mind you.
Speaker 2: The kids are like, yeah, she parked that car that
Speaker 2: she like drives straight towards us sometimes. Yeah, that she
Speaker 2: like sets the alarm off from the inside of the
Speaker 2: house and says that we're jumping on her car and
Speaker 2: then calls the cops right when we're like, we were
Speaker 2: nowhere near her car. We've even done experiments where we
Speaker 2: go inside and then we still magically the car is alarming,
Speaker 2: and magically the cops come in fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: Yep, and so not I this.
Speaker 3: Twelve eleven ten year old boy walking his like golden doodle.
Speaker 3: The dad is like or.
Speaker 2: One of the dads, one of the neighborhood dads who
Speaker 2: again outside supervising the children because he knows this lady
Speaker 2: is crazy. There is who parents outside. I'm telling y'all
Speaker 2: all the time. And he's like, doesn't even know the
Speaker 2: baby's name. But he's like, Africa, what's your brother's name? Yeah,
Speaker 2: that one right there in the red shirt. Because she's
Speaker 2: claiming he's like, oh, it's a little small dog, a
Speaker 2: little tiny dog that she tried to he tried to
Speaker 2: put in my truck. And they're like, okay, you try
Speaker 2: to put a dog in a truck. You got a dog.
Speaker 2: And they're like, no, you have a dog.
Speaker 3: And he's like, you got a dog and she's like yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like oh that big dog. Know what's He's like,
Speaker 3: he can't lift that dog. He can really walk that dog.
Speaker 3: He can't exactly, that's a dog about big as he is.
Speaker 2: And again, no dog hair found in the truck. Like
Speaker 2: she's not it's just not making any of the sense.
Speaker 2: So that's a ridiculous claim that she made him called
Speaker 2: the cop. This is your taxpayer dollars. Yeah, taxpayers are
Speaker 2: going to a lady lying on some children for.
Speaker 3: What, like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1: Crazy?
Speaker 3: Who gives the ship? Like you take an edible and
Speaker 3: go to bed when you hear.
Speaker 2: Kids yelling outside, you like, pour some bordeaux and you
Speaker 2: call it you're put on love. You turn that bitch
Speaker 2: up and you're just like you chill like.
Speaker 1: Any other normal ass adult in America.
Speaker 2: Like you get the thing on the stereo, like instead
Speaker 2: of on that, instead of on the regular you say,
Speaker 2: you know what, let me do this around sound drown.
Speaker 3: These kids out, like that's all right?
Speaker 2: Hey, I mean next you get a ring camera which
Speaker 2: is like sixty ninety nine at the home deadpot and
Speaker 2: if you don't hone the pot anymore because of all
Speaker 2: their foolishness, the Amazon also foolishness, but like do a
Speaker 2: ring camera.
Speaker 1: From the right not find them somewhere?
Speaker 2: Okay, got Colm, just go there and send it to
Speaker 2: you six like starter, you can get that. You can
Speaker 2: get some you know, you can call adt since you
Speaker 2: think that you're being banged.
Speaker 3: Up on all the time. Right, So we're.
Speaker 2: Escalating from that to their committing arson. I don't know
Speaker 2: again how these children in multitudes of six plus, they're
Speaker 2: in six plus at all times.
Speaker 3: They ain't pact. You know how they're.
Speaker 2: Sneaking out flameable things like things that like you know,
Speaker 2: start fires to torch your no trespassing sign?
Speaker 3: Where did they get it? Girl?
Speaker 1: Like this is not weapons.
Speaker 4: All these kids are not leaving at the same time
Speaker 4: of night to come fuck with you?
Speaker 2: Like what are we talking about out my signs? And
Speaker 2: I want to press charges about that? Not your paper
Speaker 2: no trespassing signs?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: And I love the one mom, the white mom be
Speaker 1: out there with the kids. She told us. She was
Speaker 1: like that lady is crazy. She was like, ye'all almost
Speaker 1: hit her one time. I died. I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what.
Speaker 2: I was like, please don't do that, and she will
Speaker 2: call here you but like she's not. She wold broll
Speaker 2: is yelling at these kids like that. She's like, they
Speaker 2: are children. Do you hear thet she called the motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: And they're like nine, they're literally.
Speaker 2: Playing kickball again. They're not cursing her out. They're like, no,
Speaker 2: we're out here. She's knocking, dong ditching. They're not coming
Speaker 2: up to her door. She got a gate around her door, y'all. Literally,
Speaker 2: whether it came with the property or not, it's not
Speaker 2: like they can run in and out of it.
Speaker 3: Also close the gate.
Speaker 4: Right, that's your that's your whole property. So that solved
Speaker 4: all the problems. Literally, yeah, and you're.
Speaker 2: So afraid the amount of time, she says, I was
Speaker 2: afraid from my life and I'm like, again, yours, you're
Speaker 2: the gun owner. That's sixty plus the right. And these
Speaker 2: are children that are fourteen the scooters. What they're gonna
Speaker 2: do throw the scooter at you.
Speaker 4: That was the worst part of the damn interrogation because
Speaker 4: she sat asking that room and she was like yeah
Speaker 4: she Oh my god, it felt like she was just
Speaker 4: knocking and banging to my door for so long. Then
Speaker 4: they were like you want that launch, Well yeah, it
Speaker 4: was like twenty or thirty seconds.
Speaker 1: They're like, want that long?
Speaker 3: Yeah, last two to five minutes.
Speaker 2: So in two to five minutes, lady right asking for
Speaker 2: the iPad back you saying she's not gonna talk to her,
Speaker 2: saying I'm gonna break into your house then right, and
Speaker 2: then you shooting you let it in five minutes.
Speaker 3: It escalated only five minutes, max.
Speaker 1: And after you had already called the police.
Speaker 2: The way they said, it's not that we're not coming,
Speaker 2: it's that we are working our way through the list
Speaker 2: of armed robberies, kidnappings, and Susan Lawrence once.
Speaker 3: Again doesn't like this.
Speaker 2: The black kids and the little, you know, big kids
Speaker 2: are playing outside with the football because she that is
Speaker 2: clearly diverse.
Speaker 3: With all the people should not be and you just
Speaker 3: got here. She's only been there like three years.
Speaker 4: Mats right, it was a lot everybody else been there.
Speaker 3: We've been here. This is literally the kids school district
Speaker 3: what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: The cops coming up and asking even when y'all get
Speaker 2: on break and they're like, we've been our home break
Speaker 2: for like a week, and they're like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I got friends that are still in school.
Speaker 3: That's so crazy. And they're like, yeah, but.
Speaker 2: Really, we just playing like we promised, just kids were
Speaker 2: nothing wrong and shit, And he was like, honestly, I'd
Speaker 2: rather you guys be out here playing than making those
Speaker 2: TikTok dances. And somebody even tries to level with her,
Speaker 2: and it's like, I mean, for all its worth, I'd
Speaker 2: rather these I mean kind of racists, but I'd rather
Speaker 2: these little black and brown kids be outside playing and
Speaker 2: not like stealing in cars and doing other shit that
Speaker 2: they shouldn't be doing, and I'm like, exactly, them playing
Speaker 2: means they're actually not doing what you accuse them of.
Speaker 2: But before you and I want you to tell us
Speaker 2: about this interrogation because I had to stand up and
Speaker 2: put my hands behind my head so I couldn't get
Speaker 2: through it. I'm really telling y'all like I really can't,
Speaker 2: especially when she was the only one on the screen.
Speaker 2: I had no redeeming qualities. Nothing was going well for
Speaker 2: me in those moments. I said, no, no, no, I can't.
Speaker 2: But before that, I'm telling you, the documentary also puts
Speaker 2: in so many contradictions of her behavior. Right, They show
Speaker 2: us such limited interactions that this woman Scaud she was
Speaker 2: afraid for her life all the time, so she never
Speaker 2: talked to these people. Really, so they show her wanting
Speaker 2: to protect her truck and protect her property.
Speaker 3: But then they also show a call where at one point.
Speaker 2: A white man with a private property sign like a
Speaker 2: toe yard or something like that is calling because he's like,
Speaker 2: here's the thing. This is a locked gate and it's
Speaker 2: private props. And yet I'm seeing and hearing, visualizing caught
Speaker 2: on camera this lady ramming her truck, her precious truck
Speaker 2: that a dog can't get in the flatbed of and
Speaker 2: a nine year old is trying to jump into and
Speaker 2: she's afraid for her life and they're vandalizing her property.
Speaker 3: Okay, but so.
Speaker 2: It is ramming her truck into the fence because she
Speaker 2: got locked inside of the tow yard or whatever. She
Speaker 2: got locked inside the property. And he's like, I don't
Speaker 2: even know how she got in there ramming and try
Speaker 2: to get out. She didn't come try to ask for help,
Speaker 2: She ain't look for nobody like, she just started ramming it.
Speaker 2: And I want to press charges at least damages my
Speaker 2: fra the private property and need the people out. And
Speaker 2: the fence is now broken because we couldn't get out
Speaker 2: of it because it's not meant to get out.
Speaker 1: Of because I was supposed to be there in the
Speaker 1: first place.
Speaker 3: Did you get her, Susan, why are you here?
Speaker 1: Health helfer?
Speaker 4: And they had her attitude with the police officers when
Speaker 4: they come asking her about it, and then she up there.
Speaker 4: They're like, well, look, you can need to talk to
Speaker 4: us about it, or if you don't want to, then
Speaker 4: you got to refuse. We go take you down.
Speaker 2: And she was like what it was about? Yes you did,
Speaker 2: because you give it when I said it, so you
Speaker 2: I'll go and I want to say it on to
Speaker 2: talk and he's like, no, like to like you already
Speaker 2: called it. You said it, he said, I have to
Speaker 2: read it to you. They're being like they're handling her
Speaker 2: with kid gloves. They're being with her as they are
Speaker 2: being with the children. And that's worth noting. That's how
Speaker 2: she got away with this for so long. And honestly,
Speaker 2: as nice as the cops are being this complicity and
Speaker 2: not telling her you're about to get charged for false
Speaker 2: police reporting, like they're not slowing up with any kind
Speaker 2: of actual consequences, like we cannot prove anything, you have
Speaker 2: no evidence. It keeps coming down to you don't have
Speaker 2: any cameras. They told her about three different times. We
Speaker 2: have no footage, so you have no case where we're
Speaker 2: gonna charge her because y'all did this so many times,
Speaker 2: and she thought that at the end of it, she
Speaker 2: can just go ahead and do it herself.
Speaker 1: Go ahead and walk away and get away with murder.
Speaker 1: Literally literally literally keep letting her do this.
Speaker 2: And so when they came up there, I're like, you're
Speaker 2: gonna need a lawyer or you got you know anything,
Speaker 2: you say and do. She's like, nah, I don't want
Speaker 2: to talk, and they're like mm hm because we're here
Speaker 2: on different times. It's just so interesting because you keep
Speaker 2: calling us about trespassing and I'm here to tell you
Speaker 2: you're about to be arrested for actual trespassing.
Speaker 1: Right Why were you?
Speaker 4: Had they taken her ass in the custody long ago,
Speaker 4: none of this ship would have happened, or at least
Speaker 4: somebody they needed somebody on their police force to like
Speaker 4: lay down the damn law. Because yes, after so many times,
Speaker 4: I can't imagine anybody calling MPD the Memphis Police Department
Speaker 4: that many times and then either one one or two
Speaker 4: things go happen. Either them police asses are gonna stop
Speaker 4: showing up because baby, they'll do that. In the second
Speaker 4: please don't play with them. And then number two, oh baby,
Speaker 4: they coming, they're gonna cut your ass clean.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I came three times that way that the DC
Speaker 2: sniper's wife lived like two streets behind me, and people
Speaker 2: know she was the ultimate target. When I was a kid,
Speaker 2: all the cops because we saw at that time, like
Speaker 2: everybody was calling the cops about what they saw. But
Speaker 2: at the time, everybody, yes, a white van, and the
Speaker 2: white van circled our colders had like three times and
Speaker 2: we called the cops, and I'm telling you, they did
Speaker 2: not come at all.
Speaker 3: So we had to call the man at our church
Speaker 3: who is a cop for the same county and a
Speaker 3: nervous literally, I don't want it to be me see that.
Speaker 3: There's no rhyme or reason.
Speaker 2: So maybe just like, look, I'm telling y'all, if y'all
Speaker 2: were in the DMV during that time, we were not
Speaker 2: pumping gas like literally, grown ass men were on the
Speaker 2: ground like not.
Speaker 3: They were like, we were not doing it. It was
Speaker 3: a hard time.
Speaker 2: Also, everybody's covered it, and I always listen to every
Speaker 2: single one, every single yeah, every.
Speaker 3: Time, and I lived it. I was young, but I
Speaker 3: lived it, yes, in my life because I was a child.
Speaker 1: Yes, which is a movie.
Speaker 2: Also a good point this this lady is actually scarier
Speaker 2: to these children, So you lying on them is actually
Speaker 2: really upsetting because you calling them these names, threatening them,
Speaker 2: but yet telling the cops that they're threatening you, threatening
Speaker 2: that they're gonna come in and they're gonna hurt.
Speaker 3: You, They're gonna kill you, You're gonna get someone to
Speaker 3: kill you.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, again, how'd you get in the field and
Speaker 2: ram that man's gate he wants to and you owe
Speaker 2: it to him. But now because of that, you call
Speaker 2: one last time about something with the roller skates. This
Speaker 2: may like what the children are saying is like hard
Speaker 2: to understand because they're so traumatized. Susan is saying is
Speaker 2: impossible to understand because she's a goddamn liar. I've never
Speaker 2: seen a more delusional person other than they really taking it.
Speaker 3: They got it.
Speaker 2: Say again, you are literally saying you were the aggressor
Speaker 2: that you threw the skates at him or something, because
Speaker 2: we see the skates coming at us, and like we
Speaker 2: get out the way, and then she's mad and then
Speaker 2: takes my iPad and she's like it's top recording or whatever.
Speaker 3: She's mad that they're using the iPad.
Speaker 2: Which you should have done, right, and she was so
Speaker 2: much danger girl, Like you should have put that iPad
Speaker 2: in the window or something in a webcam, anything you can,
Speaker 2: we can, we could keep it economic, like, but no,
Speaker 2: that wasn't the goal or the thing. You were just mad,
Speaker 2: and you really I really agree with you, Ken. I
Speaker 2: think that that she wanted them people to do her
Speaker 2: dirty work in Chicago, they shoot eleven year olds and.
Speaker 1: That's not that's not right, that's not okay anywhere, Just
Speaker 1: so we're clear about that.
Speaker 2: Like, no, at the least, so she is. She takes
Speaker 2: this voice iPad. I don't remember what exactly she does
Speaker 2: with it, whether she throws it, keeps it, whatever. She
Speaker 2: has the iPad though, and her having the iPad, so.
Speaker 4: He had to go back and get it, and so
Speaker 4: I think him going back and get it is what
Speaker 4: kind of precipitated because the kids kept saying they felt
Speaker 4: so guilty about having to go back or leaving the
Speaker 4: iPad or like whatever.
Speaker 1: They're like around you get.
Speaker 2: It, get the iPad, and that meant danger because this
Speaker 2: lady is so unreasonable that they can't even like be
Speaker 2: within it. I'm talking about like y'all, she want like
Speaker 2: a football, like a thousand feet yep, or more like
Speaker 2: she wants a whole street away of a perimeter around
Speaker 2: a dual plax. Girl next door could give it two
Speaker 2: ships they give up. You don't know, he's a girl.
Speaker 3: What their kids they really just be playing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, literally, no one in the neighborhood gives a ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes they be loud, but most times they go
Speaker 2: to bed because they children, So they o the house
Speaker 2: at are like eight nine, except maybe when they got
Speaker 2: you know, school break, and then there's two weeks max
Speaker 2: and then they back into school.
Speaker 3: And uh, and I've always known them to be kids here.
Speaker 2: There's always been some kids here because it's close to
Speaker 2: the schools and whatnot.
Speaker 3: And so the kids are here like it's just is
Speaker 3: the Emily neighborhood.
Speaker 2: It's really just a lot of people who are work
Speaker 2: hard working, you know, households. And Susan loved to throw
Speaker 2: on a racist dig every time she called a cop
Speaker 2: for no reason.
Speaker 3: Well, her boyfriend was, you know, keeping the house dirty,
Speaker 3: how you know that right? And keeping his here? And
Speaker 3: I told her, I told him to clean it up.
Speaker 3: So did you talk to them or not?
Speaker 1: You're right, was she yelling at you or not?
Speaker 3: Like, I don't understand. And so I told him to
Speaker 3: clean it up. So she calls. So this little boy.
Speaker 2: He can't get dipad because Susan is a miserable bitch,
Speaker 2: and so he goes to his mama, which is also
Speaker 2: what both the parents and the cops.
Speaker 3: Told the children to do. Right, These kids do not
Speaker 3: address this lady.
Speaker 2: They literally go home and tell their parents after she
Speaker 2: verbally accosts them every single time, and they're supposed to
Speaker 2: The mom said that, Acchaka said that, and the cops
Speaker 2: said the next time, you just don't even engage with her,
Speaker 2: go and get an adult. And that's exactly what they
Speaker 2: what happened. So he goes to get his mom and
Speaker 2: trigger warning. The next footage literally that you see is
Speaker 2: this baby sobbing at the next door neighbor's house.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm lively gonna cry again.
Speaker 2: The next door neighbor's house asking for someone to call
Speaker 2: the cops because she shot his mom. Like he's shocked
Speaker 2: and confused. He's waiting outside and they have cameras, yep,
Speaker 2: which is how we can see it. They have cameras,
Speaker 2: and so he's crying. He tells the friend to go
Speaker 2: get his mom and call the cops. He does everything right.
Speaker 2: I mean, these kids did everything right, and that's kind
Speaker 2: of They were clearly well raised and well taught. They
Speaker 2: knew to get an adult. The adult is, you know,
Speaker 2: also hysterical because what do you mean they shot my
Speaker 2: neighbor friend mom for what? And throughout the documentary, we're
Speaker 2: getting a lot of character information about Algica. She is
Speaker 2: was a manager of a McDonald's. She worked really hard.
Speaker 2: She was a single mom.
Speaker 1: Well, she always changed so she can watch the kids
Speaker 1: whenever she needed to kids.
Speaker 3: They were like, no, we know.
Speaker 2: She didn't play about them kids like she like, I
Speaker 2: cannot work this one. I can do this one because
Speaker 2: I gotta be with my kids. She showed up for
Speaker 2: her children. She was outside almost all the time, which is.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: And she goes over and she's had and I understand
Speaker 2: she was being a mom. I have seen plenty a Lindsey, Susan,
Speaker 2: Karen Karina do the exact same thing over their kid,
Speaker 2: and I don't judge it.
Speaker 3: It's your kid. She went over there saying like bang
Speaker 3: bang bang.
Speaker 2: And how we know this is because they actually interview
Speaker 2: and give us neighbor confirmation and their statements first before
Speaker 2: we get Susan's, before we even hear about Susan, the
Speaker 2: other neighbors all let you know that whatever she's saying
Speaker 2: could not be corroborated. And this is what actually happened.
Speaker 2: So about three or four different voices tell the you know,
Speaker 2: the different interview situations that there was like three bangs
Speaker 2: on the door they were big bangs, three bangs. Not
Speaker 2: knock knock, open up or give my son back his
Speaker 2: iPad like you have something of mine, bitch, open up
Speaker 2: right and knock knock, knock, knock, knock, you open up
Speaker 2: like I need to give him back his iPad.
Speaker 3: Come outside. I'm seriously maybe I will beat your ass.
Speaker 3: I don't know. They the neighbors did not necessarily say
Speaker 3: they heard her say that. They really didn't.
Speaker 2: You only got off like two clean, not real good
Speaker 2: raps and then a couple of one bitch and two demands.
Speaker 1: Before quick encounter, real quick, and they.
Speaker 3: Say they heard of silence and then a bang and
Speaker 3: it sounded like a gun went off. Yep. And we
Speaker 3: find out that through a locked door.
Speaker 1: Yep. Most important part knowing who it was.
Speaker 2: Why you didn't get your cellular device and start recording
Speaker 2: right again, all the ways you could have done anything
Speaker 2: but just be a murderer like you could have if
Speaker 2: you wanted to make it work. I'm just saying, if
Speaker 2: you wanted to make it work, you could at least
Speaker 2: make an argument that I recorded it because I was
Speaker 2: so scared. So even though she may not have said
Speaker 2: I'm gonna you in the phase sixteen times. It felt
Speaker 2: like she was going to so I will say this
Speaker 2: and you we can't sure. I can't take that from you,
Speaker 2: but you know that you got you got.
Speaker 1: The blinky the blaky immediate and then tried to throw
Speaker 1: it in the trash afterwards.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you know you're wrong, right, Okay, she gets
Speaker 3: the blinking.
Speaker 2: She shoots the lady through the door while this lady
Speaker 2: is still at her door, which she knows because she's
Speaker 2: definitely through the people.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you could just not.
Speaker 2: But she shoots this woman again in front of the children,
Speaker 2: and the children are outside and near their house enough
Speaker 2: that they can see because all these homes and duplexus
Speaker 2: are in a regular ass neighborhood, so they're close enough.
Speaker 3: That people are seeing this. They're hearing this encounter in exchange,
Speaker 3: and they are confused by the gunshot, not the interaction.
Speaker 2: They all are like, the parents go off on this
Speaker 2: lady because she always calls the cops on their kids
Speaker 2: for playing kickball.
Speaker 3: Dad asked that suspentence.
Speaker 2: So with that, she's the pulse is week you see
Speaker 2: multiple children crying, you do, babe? This woman on the
Speaker 2: ground trying to receive aid and support the cops do
Speaker 2: get there relatively fast because Susan also her dumb ass.
Speaker 3: Calls now one one which she should have.
Speaker 2: It's the only thing she did right because and I'm
Speaker 2: not saying she should have because like she doing the
Speaker 2: right thing, or I expect her to be a good person.
Speaker 2: It's because that's the only way they can prove that
Speaker 2: you didn't premeditate this on your aid or call the cops.
Speaker 2: It's like, girl, you going down for intentional that's her
Speaker 2: first degree. Like you can't kno fall, especially even in
Speaker 2: the standard ground state. You're supposed to call and be like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I was so afraid. All across the
Speaker 2: street threatened to come and beat me up.
Speaker 3: But she didn't.
Speaker 2: But no, she was digging down. She was trying to
Speaker 2: beat down my door. That story changed about three times, Kendrick,
Speaker 2: tell us what you want in a statement interview from
Speaker 2: miss Susan Lauretz. What what does she say happened?
Speaker 1: They take her to the police station.
Speaker 4: She gives this whole dramatic ass diatribe about how she
Speaker 4: was banging.
Speaker 3: On the door.
Speaker 4: You know, I just I you know, when you're in
Speaker 4: this kind of state, you don't know how long it
Speaker 4: actually is, and it was, you know, it felt like
Speaker 4: it was forever. She was threatening me and she was
Speaker 4: doing all of this, and I went and got my gun.
Speaker 4: I definite, yes, it was me that shot her. But
Speaker 4: it was because I was afraid from my life. I
Speaker 4: didn't know what she was gonna do to me, and
Speaker 4: I was so scared, and she was banging and banging,
Speaker 4: and she would not stop banging on the door. She
Speaker 4: was trying to come in all this good bullshit that she'spewing.
Speaker 4: And of course that's one interrogation of this whole thing.
Speaker 4: And at some point, of course, you know, even though
Speaker 4: she had missed the shoe, she does get to go
Speaker 4: wherever they else.
Speaker 1: I think she get puts up in a.
Speaker 4: Hotel that night, and so they take her by say.
Speaker 3: I don't think you should go back there and stay there.
Speaker 3: She goes. I don't either, I'm too afraid. Oh okay.
Speaker 2: So the children who just saw an adult that they
Speaker 2: love gets shot for trying to be an adult, and
Speaker 2: that teaches all the children to never ask their parents for.
Speaker 3: Help again, because they could die and they don't. It's
Speaker 3: not worth it.
Speaker 2: Like excuse him for doing the right thing. So they
Speaker 2: will escort you back, attack some bags. Some things I
Speaker 2: noticed here for the crime junkies and whatnot out there
Speaker 2: for y'all will be.
Speaker 3: Listening to ashing my girl print.
Speaker 2: Yet some things family was able to be called one.
Speaker 2: Yes there literally the little boy couldn't even be brained.
Speaker 2: They couldn't didn't have enough time to brainwash him. The
Speaker 2: little like nephew that comes or grandson that comes or whatever,
Speaker 2: because he's like, guns are dangerous.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, everywhere. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: The mom is like yeah, she's like, you know, guns
Speaker 2: are useful when they're necessary or something like that. He
Speaker 2: has to excuse the behavior and then says thing number two.
Speaker 2: I tried to clean up as much as I could yep.
Speaker 2: And I said, wait a minute, it's a crime scene, right,
Speaker 2: clean up what We don't know what happened yet she's
Speaker 2: dead and you're choosing to investigate those Though they didn't
Speaker 2: indict her right away, they did say they are investigating.
Speaker 1: Right, you're literally tampering with the crime scene actively on
Speaker 1: purpose that.
Speaker 3: It's giving okay.
Speaker 2: The head cop in charge of the investigation, though he
Speaker 2: hadn't indicted yet, he even said like I'm a I'm
Speaker 2: a dad, if I if my kid iPad was stolen
Speaker 2: or something like that, I too would go get it.
Speaker 3: And I'd like I would be and I'm like, hello,
Speaker 3: nobody gets it. He's like, so we do need to
Speaker 3: investigate it.
Speaker 2: So then this lady, god damn Susan, like she is
Speaker 2: escorted back home. Her family is there, they've cleaned up
Speaker 2: the scene. She can get some stuff from her from
Speaker 2: her closet or whatever, and like and.
Speaker 3: Both her cats.
Speaker 2: She tells the officers like, she's allowed to put on
Speaker 2: clothes when she's every time she's apprehended or they keep
Speaker 2: coming up in there, She's given all these luxuries. She
Speaker 2: tried to throw the down away because they let her
Speaker 2: like get dressed every time that she gets coops called
Speaker 2: and she said, well let me go inside. My cats
Speaker 2: close the door. So she gets her cats to take
Speaker 2: her pets with you. You commit, you shoot somebody, don't
Speaker 2: know what happened, is sure, but you shoot somebody and
Speaker 2: you're allowed to go get your cats and.
Speaker 1: Go to well Hilton and get manslaughter. That's crazy to me.
Speaker 1: That's crazy to me.
Speaker 2: Okay, Wow, she gets slept off with that, and the
Speaker 2: investigation goes sous out there you know she's doing our thing,
Speaker 2: you know, because she's hanging out having a time. You know,
Speaker 2: I want to press charges and do the things. But
Speaker 2: yet you're the one who keeps getting arrested.
Speaker 1: Sis.
Speaker 2: Literally they keep detaining you, right, but they keep telling
Speaker 2: you're not under arrest, and like, that's so sweet, you're
Speaker 2: so kind, But I do have to detain you because
Speaker 2: you have a gun and you shot it.
Speaker 3: Try no de escalation at all.
Speaker 2: She says in her statement that she did say to
Speaker 2: old girl at some point, I will not come out
Speaker 2: and talk to you. Leave me alone or leave the
Speaker 2: premises or whatever. None of the neighbors heard that, but
Speaker 2: maybe because she was inside.
Speaker 4: That's also one of the best things about this is
Speaker 4: that their neighborhood is so communal with deceptions. Susan raggedy
Speaker 4: ass that literally, when they went around to collect statements,
Speaker 4: everybody was on one accord.
Speaker 1: Everybody's like, I didn't hear nothing. I didn't hear none
Speaker 1: of that court too, They're like, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, like they go to bed before sex and the
Speaker 2: city even come on, Like what you're talking, right, It's
Speaker 2: ten o'clock. You know, the girls aren't even known yet
Speaker 2: and you're talking about outside trespassing, killing you, threatening to
Speaker 2: come and have somebody else kill you, beat you up,
Speaker 2: toss you around. Then why ain't nobody done it yet? Susan,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry because if we got people call right, well,
Speaker 2: you got hit her as you call him. Beyonce said
Speaker 2: it mm hmm every time shout out to the Carters. Also,
Speaker 2: don't listen to it.
Speaker 3: It's good.
Speaker 4: It's my ship, you know ship. Let's make love in
Speaker 4: the summer time. Okay, that's my ship.
Speaker 3: You don't put the dope imine right back, my friends.
Speaker 2: I love it, cratch that I mean, okay, everything is
Speaker 2: love is such such a good album. That is the
Speaker 2: Mona Lisa of Mona Lisa's It's so good, So in
Speaker 2: love the Carters as a recording, I mean, the Grammys
Speaker 2: spoke for themselves.
Speaker 3: See my girl Kijabe no no, no, yes, I will
Speaker 3: send to you.
Speaker 2: There has been a photo circulating, okay, with a head covering.
Speaker 2: We don't necessarily know what it is or for why,
Speaker 2: because you know, she don't talk to us about her
Speaker 2: religious in her life, you know, anything outside of what
Speaker 2: the music and the visual say.
Speaker 3: And sometimes you are the visuals. Okay, the other one
Speaker 3: so right. I guess we're not getting them right.
Speaker 2: So the girlies are believing her hair has been died black,
Speaker 2: which is coinciding with TikTok about two months ago, right
Speaker 2: after Cowboy Carter tour ended, where she had a all
Speaker 2: black wig on the floor of the stage and it
Speaker 2: was giving kiss vibes, it was giving rock and roll.
Speaker 2: And then two of the Renaissance and Cowboy Carter dancers,
Speaker 2: after they got their Louis Baton luggage as a thank you,
Speaker 2: but shout out to my queen, okay, okay, a piece,
Speaker 2: she said, because we're going on tour boo okay, right,
Speaker 2: And so then they dyed their hair. About two girls
Speaker 2: got clocked. Two people got clocked with black hair a
Speaker 2: couple of months ago, and so now the girlies are like,
Speaker 2: either she is officially committed to Islam, some religion that
Speaker 2: covers her hair, and I doubt that because she wore
Speaker 2: one piece every day of the last two years.
Speaker 3: Showing okay, show yeah, or she's covering black hair. So
Speaker 3: it's just giving you afreak. Guys. You know you know what.
Speaker 4: I didn't even like blink an eye because when I
Speaker 4: saw the caption, said Beyonce, spotted out in and it
Speaker 4: was someone where they wear jobs on a daily basis.
Speaker 1: So I was like.
Speaker 2: By and them, Yep, do require women to have had coverings.
Speaker 2: If you remember back to housees of Beverly Hills when
Speaker 2: they went to Dubai like some a single digit season,
Speaker 2: I almost feel like it was.
Speaker 1: A while ago send the girls on trips like that, but.
Speaker 3: They started doing it fraud across the rod.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tahoe, you can't afford you'll.
Speaker 3: Not coming back litigation.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be if you're not allowed back in the
Speaker 2: country from wherever the hell over, like the Caribbean, because
Speaker 2: somewhere else we can't afford it.
Speaker 3: So I remember they had to be they were driven
Speaker 3: around the mall. I don't know if that's still the
Speaker 3: case you guys in Dubai in the area.
Speaker 2: Well as CEC can let us know shout out to
Speaker 2: c C loves you, hey girl, or you know, they
Speaker 2: couldn't They couldn't drive and they had to cover their heads.
Speaker 2: The only thing I'm saying, I raise you how strict
Speaker 2: I'd like to know for those who know how strict
Speaker 2: is the covering because the girls the Very Hills coverings
Speaker 2: weren't that tight.
Speaker 3: I remember it. I said, well, that's not the same thing.
Speaker 2: It wasn't enough, but like it was right to standard
Speaker 2: be fashionable, which was fine because they were in like
Speaker 2: a very fine, fantastic best in the world.
Speaker 3: Mall be covered everything. I prow yeah, like everything, like
Speaker 3: you can't do nothing.
Speaker 2: So again, either job well disn or we are we
Speaker 2: might be prepping for something. And just in case, justin
Speaker 2: kisses both put them quarters away. Child, you might helping
Speaker 2: me for a while, but this, if this is happening,
Speaker 2: so okay, I'm sorry, y'all.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get back to it.
Speaker 1: Susan, the one in this pitch is a lot of
Speaker 1: women in this picture. She don't want what to wrap on.
Speaker 2: Okay, yep, y'all better put away more than a quarter,
Speaker 2: put away a dollar, a dollar, okay, come on, Rocky,
Speaker 2: you know, just is it ten cents a day? And
Speaker 2: I was a kid, I was like, that's kind of
Speaker 2: a lot of money if you think about it, my life,
Speaker 2: you're talking about fifteen cents.
Speaker 1: A day, true, little girl, Like, okay.
Speaker 3: This song says it's thirty one days in September. That's
Speaker 3: a lot of set. That's a lot of fifteen.
Speaker 2: Cents o't okay, so, but like y'all need to hurt
Speaker 2: from the way a dollar or two right now.
Speaker 3: It's probably a good idea.
Speaker 4: We'll get the album next year, but you know the
Speaker 4: tour is coming soon after, probably forty seven early, so
Speaker 4: get ready.
Speaker 2: Okay, if she does, I'm about to retire tour. Oh god,
Speaker 2: your residency. So it's gonna be and it's gonna be
Speaker 2: well if she does, like it's gonna be Beyonce's Greatest
Speaker 2: Hits tour and all the fun things.
Speaker 3: And then in the middle of that tour she drops
Speaker 3: Act three because she's done that before.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: And I was there and I was like that, thank god,
Speaker 3: my ticket is after this album came out because I
Speaker 3: was going anyway.
Speaker 2: But like what happened with the carters, like that happens
Speaker 2: a lot, or when she got something major.
Speaker 3: Like a deal or something with some girls and doing
Speaker 3: the thing. So we could get a tour, we.
Speaker 2: Could get an album, we could get a residency, we
Speaker 2: could get all three. All I'm seeing between twenty five
Speaker 2: cents and a dollar fifty. We should start putting that away, Tom,
Speaker 2: you just you just do Yeah. I heard like like wait, women,
Speaker 2: but love you love you down, you get it, okay,
Speaker 2: especially when you know y'all be having a good skin
Speaker 2: and a good ally ship.
Speaker 3: And I like that, Like y'all go to Cowboy Carter as.
Speaker 2: If it was so easy the first time, like we know,
Speaker 2: but they were like, no, if y'all haven't gone, it's
Speaker 2: literally the best thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: I was invigorated. I was electrified. It was amazing.
Speaker 2: I don't want to go, So just in case you
Speaker 2: want to go, maybe just put it away now so
Speaker 2: that when you eventually want to go after you can
Speaker 2: have power to change your mind. It's all I'm saying. Okay,
Speaker 2: some of us, so you know, we're all balling on
Speaker 2: a budget. We all got to do our thing in
Speaker 2: these hard time. Maybe that's why Susan couldn't afford a
Speaker 2: camera to validate any of her stories. Turt murder, but
Speaker 2: you said she got something else instead, not make it. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: that comes a little later. They actually send her off
Speaker 2: to the hospital with a week but with a sufficient aid.
Speaker 2: They said to make it. And sometime later so the
Speaker 2: police department calls the dad to come down and get them,
Speaker 2: and I shout out to this dad because he clopped it.
Speaker 2: He ain't even get out the car and he was
Speaker 2: on it, on it, on it, dad duty, Like those
Speaker 2: are the hard Those were even the harder moments than
Speaker 2: the kids just crying like kids weren't even her kids
Speaker 2: just sobbing because they're like, right, die what oh God,
Speaker 2: like this is.
Speaker 3: In front of children, This is so unnecessary.
Speaker 2: But the dad and immediately it's holding them so that
Speaker 2: they don't fall apart, like they don't you know, use
Speaker 2: their bodies in the way.
Speaker 3: They could also get them in trouble.
Speaker 2: Like I clocked that too, as a black dad of
Speaker 2: a lot of these boys and these kids, a lot
Speaker 2: of these kids. He has our boys, I think there's
Speaker 2: three and they the boys are black, and our preteen
Speaker 2: or teenagers. And when they hear like they tell the cops,
Speaker 2: tell the father, and the father tells the children that Ajica,
Speaker 2: Ajica did not make it.
Speaker 3: That uh.
Speaker 2: He words it as that, you know, I love you know,
Speaker 2: we love each other like we love mom, right and
Speaker 2: Mom loves us, and they're like, yeah, she goes, so
Speaker 2: Mom's not coming back, and I mean I broke. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh God, I want to, I want to,
Speaker 2: I want to, I want to fight. I'm saying, I
Speaker 2: want to do this, Why not her.
Speaker 3: Free?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: And I think it was the oldest one. They asked
Speaker 4: him something. He said, no, but my heart is broken,
Speaker 4: and oh boy, they did.
Speaker 2: They asked him a question. They're like, are you are Like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I forget what it was, but I
Speaker 2: do remember that. I said, that's all I can think about.
Speaker 2: I was like, and he was just talking about at
Speaker 2: that time, his mom was witnessing, like, no, his mom
Speaker 2: is dead because and they just immediately blame themselves and
Speaker 2: talking about how bad and guilty they feel and how
Speaker 2: they should not have like I shouldn't have left the
Speaker 2: iPad and it's like and I shouldn't have gone to
Speaker 2: get mom and told her to go get it. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, also, what kind of whooping would they have
Speaker 2: gotten or trouble would they have gotten it if they
Speaker 2: left the iPad outside in the grass and in Florida?
Speaker 3: Right, Like iPads are expensive, obviously, everyone.
Speaker 2: And doing their best and making it work with multiple
Speaker 2: children per household, right, everybody is doing their best, not
Speaker 2: enough to iPads be like left outside overnight. He was
Speaker 2: doing the responsible thing and he was It's like and
Speaker 2: they felt so guilty, and that can change a kid
Speaker 2: from like well responsible good things. This is what breaks innocence.
Speaker 2: It's like, well then fuck that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: The dad holds both of them immediately to his chest,
Speaker 2: like both boys, so that they don't because they immediately
Speaker 2: want to run away, you know. And I appreciate that
Speaker 2: he's allowing them to emote, but he's giving them a
Speaker 2: safe space to do it. I know some people might
Speaker 2: differ on like letting them breathe, but like, also we're
Speaker 2: seeing this footage through body cams, which is that there's
Speaker 2: about four to six cops around the situation at all
Speaker 2: times watching this happen. So maybe the dad is just
Speaker 2: trying to make sure they don't get into any like it,
Speaker 2: do anything, because you don't know what grief does these
Speaker 2: babies just like on a random Tuesday or whatever.
Speaker 1: Like literally for playing football.
Speaker 3: Like that's really it.
Speaker 2: Like I really kept looking for something. I was like,
Speaker 2: did they throw a walk accidentally?
Speaker 3: No? Did they ask anything?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: The iPad. She was waiting for them to actually do something.
Speaker 1: They called her sharing for a reason. She didn't need
Speaker 1: a reason to do shit that.
Speaker 2: She was No, it was like that bird watching situation
Speaker 2: back in the day where she was like, you know,
Speaker 2: you shouldn't have a dog unleashed. This is a private,
Speaker 2: you know park, or this is a fancy park with
Speaker 2: it's like a natural wildlife reserve or something, and she
Speaker 2: went off on that man and whatever and like girl,
Speaker 2: Karen behavior, calm down, what is wrong with you? Like
Speaker 2: they really tried to ask her. Shout out to that
Speaker 2: white mama who has the cute little mixed kids, who
Speaker 2: knocks on the police uses her privilege appropriately. That's why
Speaker 2: I feel because it is not to be mistaken that
Speaker 2: she walked her ass up to the cop car, knocked
Speaker 2: on the window to Susan said hey, hello, knocked again Hello.
Speaker 2: No that she's not scared for her life, right, why
Speaker 2: did you shoot her? Why did you shoot that woman?
Speaker 3: She's a mom, she has kids?
Speaker 1: How did you do that?
Speaker 3: Like because I was afraid for my life?
Speaker 1: No you aren't, Like, just no, you weren't.
Speaker 2: I had to ask her because the cops kep trying
Speaker 2: to listen to her story and like, so I just
Speaker 2: how long you said? How long she was going to
Speaker 2: break in? I'm not hearing the break in part though,
Speaker 2: run back from me again. They make her repeated at least.
Speaker 3: Twice this shit ooh.
Speaker 4: And literally the best part was when they came back
Speaker 4: to the neighborhood when you know, the when the grandson
Speaker 4: was trying to clock tea and they were like, oh, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: you know you get that whole part. The entire neighborhood.
Speaker 4: You could just hear a chorus of all of them
Speaker 4: being like, why the fuck are you here?
Speaker 1: Why are you here?
Speaker 3: You a murderer?
Speaker 1: You killed her?
Speaker 4: Everybody literally echoing in the background. I'm like, this is beautiful.
Speaker 4: I'm y'all and came together for her, her kids.
Speaker 3: Get this exactly again.
Speaker 2: The people on the phone, and I'm not clocking anybody's sound,
Speaker 2: but let me just say so many people on the
Speaker 2: phone on the cop calls when they heard the gunshot,
Speaker 2: and they did the right thing and called nine one
Speaker 2: one because they were you know, sounded like Caucasian voices
Speaker 2: of both genders, to which I appreciated because also they
Speaker 2: too clocked in with the allyship and was like one
Speaker 2: man even was like, she's always like yelling at those
Speaker 2: kids and calling the.
Speaker 3: Cops on those kids.
Speaker 2: And so one of the moms went over there and
Speaker 2: knocked on the door and like but she's always yelling
Speaker 2: at them kids, right, Jo is mad at them children
Speaker 2: for playing. So I think they was playing a little
Speaker 2: too close again and she shot her. I like, we
Speaker 2: don't know, but maybe y'all come out here, they said.
Speaker 2: Multiple clothes were made. Yes, I appreciated the community being like, no,
Speaker 2: what we're not gonna do is gunshots. We don't even
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 3: They as so shook. So for you to be so scared, right,
Speaker 3: but they're breaking in and gonna kill you, shoot you,
Speaker 3: murder you.
Speaker 4: The only person in the neighborhood this would happened to,
Speaker 4: because everyone else seems to have an amazing relationship with
Speaker 4: these kids and just incredibly well behaved kids.
Speaker 2: These kids that are little and well raised, like they're
Speaker 2: doing being children, Like they're just playing frisbee and whatnot
Speaker 2: with the scooters.
Speaker 3: We're eleven. Can't get over it. The baby is combing
Speaker 3: the dolls hair.
Speaker 2: What do you mean she's trying to threaten to kill you,
Speaker 2: So they lady, they calling her all kyps of you know,
Speaker 2: murderer and whatnot, because she's Roman free. She shot through
Speaker 2: the door like the children had to see it. They
Speaker 2: tell her that she you know that she didn't a
Speaker 2: Jika didn't make it, and she's now shook.
Speaker 3: This is all so much for her, right right, It's
Speaker 3: been a lot for me, like.
Speaker 4: Write a letter, to write a letter. I'm sorry kids
Speaker 4: you had to grow up without your mom. I am
Speaker 4: sorry about knocked on my door.
Speaker 3: And I didn't just tell her to go to hell
Speaker 3: if you don't learn.
Speaker 1: To use your words right.
Speaker 2: And talk it off so early with her claiming to
Speaker 2: be the perfect neighbor because she doesn't go outside, she
Speaker 2: doesn't bother anybody, she works, right, I've seen you outside
Speaker 2: a lot, Susan, bothering people the right sense. I mean
Speaker 2: that man with the fence is actually really bothered by you,
Speaker 2: so his fences. So she gets charged with manslaughter.
Speaker 1: You can't make this shit up. That's it. You can't
Speaker 1: make this shit up.
Speaker 3: It's like George Zimmerman all over again.
Speaker 4: And I truly believe she got charged with manslaughter because
Speaker 4: they didn't want anything getting in the way of the
Speaker 4: damn standard ground law. They didn't want anything saying like,
Speaker 4: you know what, maybe this isn't the best law that
Speaker 4: we have, Maybe this shouldn't be a real thing, Maybe
Speaker 4: this should probably go away. A lot of people seem
Speaker 4: to be getting killed, a lot of black and brown
Speaker 4: people seem to be getting killed because of his law,
Speaker 4: and no one gives a fuck.
Speaker 1: No one gives it, damn not in Florida.
Speaker 2: So she gets charged. She was charged in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: four with manslaughter and was found guilty with a firearm
Speaker 2: and she's now serving a twenty five year prison sentence.
Speaker 3: Is it enough your thoughts?
Speaker 4: Uh? No, we should be debating whether or not they
Speaker 4: should put on death row or not, right, like, what
Speaker 4: are we doing it?
Speaker 3: Truly?
Speaker 1: Because you need to live with that ship exactly. You
Speaker 1: need to live with that. No death row, You need
Speaker 1: to deal with that.
Speaker 2: I don't even want you to even think that you're
Speaker 2: gonna die one day outside of whatever calls you, because
Speaker 2: you'll have to just live with this for the rest
Speaker 2: uh huh.
Speaker 3: And so with any luck, you can make it a
Speaker 3: little bit gurly pop. But right, twenty five years not
Speaker 3: nearly enough for me Florida prison.
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, let me look up actually,
Speaker 4: because I'm wondering what's the maximum for manslaughter in Florida.
Speaker 2: Let me see, that's the best question, because if it's
Speaker 2: not that that she got I don't want to know.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't want it. I really don't. It's
Speaker 3: a twenty five sentence doesn't seem like enough, so he says.
Speaker 4: In Florida, the maximum penalty for simple manslaw is fifteen years,
Speaker 4: as it's a second degree feltony. However, a maximum can
Speaker 4: increase to thirty years in prison for aggravated man sar,
Speaker 4: which is what I'm hoping this.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what.
Speaker 3: Is man's daughter with a firearm, So it was aggregation.
Speaker 4: You could have gave her another five. So I don't
Speaker 4: know what I mean, twenty five came from. Don't what
Speaker 4: was what was the why?
Speaker 3: Why she little QC discount? Like was it time, sir?
Speaker 1: But she ain't dead damn long?
Speaker 2: So I mean we'll see, Like the this woman's oldest
Speaker 2: child again is a preteen, maybe an early teen.
Speaker 3: Right, and then so she and she is younger, so
Speaker 3: they're gonna have to really.
Speaker 2: Grow up real fast when they shouldn't have had to
Speaker 2: because they like to play football and do TikTok dances.
Speaker 3: Just all that silly kid you know shit literally jumps
Speaker 3: encouraged it.
Speaker 2: They were like, we don't even know why she's calling
Speaker 2: us like the Times even called it. I met her
Speaker 2: with skepticism, like they were constantly skeptical because they were
Speaker 2: just like, I just don't understand what you're saying. The
Speaker 2: problem is right, so you're telling me you feel for
Speaker 2: your life because they threatened to kill you, shoot you.
Speaker 2: But yet when you tell the story, it sounds like
Speaker 2: they were outside throwing a football and you didn't like it.
Speaker 3: You yelled to go away.
Speaker 1: Bingo.
Speaker 3: You didn't even come up with another a good enough lie.
Speaker 2: Like the story is kept changing constantly because the details
Speaker 2: didn't add up.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 2: The dog, she used her hands to show us the size,
Speaker 2: literally like a little small dog. You don't even know
Speaker 2: what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: There her ass under the jails matter, and I hold it.
Speaker 4: I know they got cable because listen, you know, if
Speaker 4: y'all know anybody in jail, they will call you and
Speaker 4: tell you about them stories every day if they can.
Speaker 4: So I know they got cable in there. I know
Speaker 4: they got them, some young and restless and my home,
Speaker 4: my children.
Speaker 3: I know they got there.
Speaker 1: I need them to get Netflix in jail.
Speaker 4: Just give it to them for a little while, just
Speaker 4: so they can watch this documentary, because I need them
Speaker 4: to handle her ass appropriately.
Speaker 3: Yes, she literally.
Speaker 2: The one the baby who says we're eleven. I just
Speaker 2: looked and saw it's because she accused them of trying
Speaker 2: to steal her truck. The cop asked him flat out,
Speaker 2: can any of you even drive? And one could take
Speaker 2: a lollipop out of his mouth?
Speaker 3: It no, they say, you can't even her face. She's
Speaker 3: so young and on a little razor scooter.
Speaker 1: Literally, why girl, why would they have the scooter? Think
Speaker 1: about it right right?
Speaker 2: Oh, showing the children a gun, she did this more
Speaker 2: than once to meditation.
Speaker 1: That's exactly, that's something exactly.
Speaker 3: Where's the other five? I would like to add him?
Speaker 1: I really would truly the.
Speaker 3: Children the gun. She basically primed them for this moment.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, oh yes, oh.
Speaker 3: Netflix did. Actually it was a Sundance film and it won. Yes,
Speaker 3: and them did a wonderful job.
Speaker 2: Putting this together to really show that this lady was
Speaker 2: absolutely cuckoo banana pants and nuts so racist, awful, asshole,
Speaker 2: terrible Susan Karen.
Speaker 3: Yes, there's not enough words.
Speaker 4: Oh no, not nearly enough. If y'all learn, you know,
Speaker 4: because I know, like sometimes people will listen and then
Speaker 4: choose to watch whatever we like talk about. If you
Speaker 4: are going to watch this, I implore you to listen.
Speaker 4: It's very much a trigger warning type of thing because
Speaker 4: you are getting first hand account about everything. This is
Speaker 4: literally body camp footage that you're watching this entire time,
Speaker 4: So right, you've got to go in knowing exactly what
Speaker 4: you're getting because it's gonna be hard for a lot
Speaker 4: of people to handle this.
Speaker 1: It's not an easy watch.
Speaker 4: It's I would say it's a necessary one though, because
Speaker 4: a lot of people don't understand what people in this
Speaker 4: country go through simply from trying to have joy, literally
Speaker 4: trying to have joy on a daily basis.
Speaker 2: Why we have books, why people like about how to
Speaker 2: teach your kids, like about when they're gonna get pulled
Speaker 2: over and or maybe shot or have a gun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just because they are outside being like or inside.
Speaker 2: Being no yea, So that being a thing literally like
Speaker 2: us having to call people like this being a thing
Speaker 2: like people being afraid to go outside. Why we hashtag
Speaker 2: black boy joy that's pro magic is because there has
Speaker 2: never been a space where safely we can do anything
Speaker 2: with a little bit hum for our lives, like since
Speaker 2: we got here and since then. So in some regards.
Speaker 2: It's like insane because these kids are at home playing outside.
Speaker 1: Again. I want to stress this because she doesn't, yeah,
Speaker 1: have the porch.
Speaker 3: Like I just don't even.
Speaker 2: Just the prosecutor says something to that really got me.
Speaker 2: She claimed that the police fail the community. She said, quote,
Speaker 2: the police don't have to come in guns blazing and
Speaker 2: beating people to still have failed the community. And if
Speaker 2: you can pick up a gun, this is to Susan,
Speaker 2: you can pick up a gun to solve a trivial
Speaker 2: dispute with your neighbor, what else are you capable of?
Speaker 2: I would like to know, truly, question you just hear like,
Speaker 2: I bet you? Oh yeah, ago, did anybody die?
Speaker 1: They find two guns? Did they find two guns in
Speaker 1: her house?
Speaker 5: See?
Speaker 2: And mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Under there give it the extra five and locked her
Speaker 1: ass under there two years?
Speaker 3: Two years she was doing this.
Speaker 1: Because now my next question, when is Susan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, Susan, I'm when she's elegent for parole because
Speaker 4: I want to be at that meeting.
Speaker 3: I do. I would like because I'm affected. I'm affected
Speaker 3: by yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people think that the police still
Speaker 2: should have taken action against her. Susan Lawrence earlier's not
Speaker 2: eligible the House and numerous calls to emergency services for
Speaker 2: non emergencies.
Speaker 3: Again, waste of money.
Speaker 1: Yep, she is not eligible for parole.
Speaker 2: So and you want to know what the only reason
Speaker 2: I'm also say she should not get the death penalty
Speaker 2: is because that's very expensive. It's actually really expensive for taxes,
Speaker 2: like to pay for an execution. And let's not even
Speaker 2: get into how y'all state is like so contradicting and
Speaker 2: being so pro life, but y'all are pro deaths. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but like it's super expensive, and I feel like she's
Speaker 2: cost the taxpayers of that state enough. Yeah, just two
Speaker 2: years worth of bodycam footage they dispatched two years.
Speaker 3: Worth to my house because children are playing football.
Speaker 2: Can't express to y'all enough how absolutely nutstate is to
Speaker 2: watch this, but how absolutely necessary it is because that
Speaker 2: kind of emotion I think I needed to feel to
Speaker 2: understand also the plight of people in places like I've
Speaker 2: been pulled over by cops and I don't. It's probably
Speaker 2: one of the scariest things that have happened to me.
Speaker 2: But I'm fortunate enough that has not happened enough or
Speaker 2: that many times or often I've not had that many
Speaker 2: and all of my encounters have also been fine with
Speaker 2: police officers.
Speaker 3: And I live in an area where fortunate enough.
Speaker 2: At least pre right now, right now on the DMV
Speaker 2: is in some stress with all the people in a
Speaker 2: uniform of some sort.
Speaker 3: But and that's not our fault.
Speaker 2: But it's like I've been nervous, but it's never been
Speaker 2: I've never lived in a place where it's like rampant
Speaker 2: to this point where I had to fear for like
Speaker 2: the what is it the NAA has Florida.
Speaker 3: When to watch this was like a not safe place
Speaker 3: for black people.
Speaker 1: Literally, we having to do a new version of like
Speaker 1: the Travelers Green Book.
Speaker 3: For real, it's on their travel list. I said, wait right,
Speaker 3: like the place right right, like what the niggas is
Speaker 3: already there? Will you talk about? Please help?
Speaker 2: So it's like, oh no, just I'm glad you found
Speaker 2: out that she's not eligible for parole. So it's just
Speaker 2: and she's already cost us enough text and just put
Speaker 2: her in the smallest cell possible.
Speaker 3: Put her in there with somebody who.
Speaker 1: Put in solitary confinements.
Speaker 2: Actually better for her safety, You're right, because she might
Speaker 2: get taken out too quickly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for Susie girl up and there.
Speaker 1: Only one to day, one hour yard. That's all she made,
Speaker 1: That's all she needs.
Speaker 3: She talked about. She likes to be inside, she says,
Speaker 3: she stay inside.
Speaker 2: You wish, and you got your wish, and you cannot
Speaker 2: interact with the others and the blacks.
Speaker 3: That's it. You know, you're good.
Speaker 2: You can go sit in your nice little white cell
Speaker 2: that you were.
Speaker 3: White, so bad white for by four walls exactly. Listen,
Speaker 3: I cried this morning.
Speaker 2: It started my day differently, I you know, have definitely
Speaker 2: I couldn't recommend it enough. I think I've talked to
Speaker 2: like seventeen people about it and how I was like
Speaker 2: captivated by watching it. And honestly, it's the first time
Speaker 2: I think that, at the very least, Florida got something
Speaker 2: closer to right.
Speaker 1: Yeah than before we have come off.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because listen, I thought we were gonna get another Georgie Zammerman. Because,
Speaker 2: to be honest, I let true crime documentary so much.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know which case this was. I know
Speaker 2: about so many cases I just could play, so I
Speaker 2: didn't even know who died. I thought it was gonna
Speaker 2: be one of the kids.
Speaker 3: This was worse to me.
Speaker 2: For me, this was what the trauma of a child
Speaker 2: having to experience their mother dying, the trauma of other
Speaker 2: children having to experience it.
Speaker 1: Happened to go through the rest of his life thinking
Speaker 1: it's his fault. Not fair.
Speaker 2: Rotten hell like literally truly really rotten hell like first
Speaker 2: class ticket.
Speaker 3: Nothing grow on top of your grave like I wanted.
Speaker 3: I wanted. I wanted to look ugly. I do like
Speaker 3: right on the inside any out.
Speaker 4: And I want to make sure they get Because she
Speaker 4: was so concerned about the damn heart medication, make sure
Speaker 4: you give it to her regularly.
Speaker 1: I want her to. I want her to serve about
Speaker 1: as many of them twenty five as she can.
Speaker 3: She can make it. We can do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can get there.
Speaker 3: We can get there.
Speaker 1: They said that house poking beings and the wings are good,
Speaker 1: So you can you can make it. You will be
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: My nana was once really great friends with a woman
Speaker 2: who owned like the like am like, the food catering
Speaker 2: company for a prison in Nevada. She had all the
Speaker 2: contracts and I'm like, she showed me the menu and
Speaker 2: at the time me a fourth grader at the time,
Speaker 2: very impressed.
Speaker 3: Right, balance, it was right. Most of the said I
Speaker 3: would not want to eat this, but oh god, I
Speaker 3: don't mean she told me.
Speaker 2: But for the circumstances, you know, she told me, don't
Speaker 2: the president and I don't have to. And I said,
Speaker 2: you're right, And then she handed me a knock off
Speaker 2: Louis vaiton bag.
Speaker 3: I kept it.
Speaker 1: There you go, No one don't care.
Speaker 2: You get a moral a morality lesson and a bag. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: I said a good day, and I had great Thanksgiving dinner.
Speaker 2: It was for Thanksgiving. I was in Las Vegas, and
Speaker 2: so I was like, oh good food, not in prison,
Speaker 2: and a bag. Okay, Christmas, I've been living out.
Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna hold y'all.
Speaker 1: Really, there you go like.
Speaker 3: Eight minutes of sixty days and for me, and I
Speaker 3: wasn't scared. I just simply don't want it. I don't
Speaker 3: want it. Let me crevices.
Speaker 2: Like if I was Susan, I'd be nervous because I've
Speaker 2: got so many crevices. And don't look she cleaned that
Speaker 2: much anyway, But I'd be like, what you mean, you
Speaker 2: gotta tell me when the shower. I don't I don't
Speaker 2: understand that right, you know, yea, even though I already took.
Speaker 1: One right five minutes, Like, what.
Speaker 3: There's a time of what you're talking about? Use me?
Speaker 2: What are these stays? And I love a sixty Days
Speaker 2: in Honey. I even watch that and I'm like, what
Speaker 2: are those stains? It reminds me never ever shall I go?
Speaker 2: And maybe y'all in Florida, most of y'all should just
Speaker 2: not stand your ground.
Speaker 3: You should really, I'm here to tell you because it's
Speaker 3: you might be going to jail these days.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You come a long way from George Zimmerman. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Soon grandkids will be visiting her there and little baby
Speaker 2: will also say guns are dangerous.
Speaker 1: You live in Proof. You live in Proof.
Speaker 3: Yeah you Grandy's We're back there. Orange is terrible on you.
Speaker 2: Okay, And I'm done talking about this raggedy white woman.
Speaker 3: I hate her so much.
Speaker 2: Shout out the non raggedy white women out there who
Speaker 2: are listening. I'm proud of you, girlies. Be the change
Speaker 2: you want to see in the world. Call tell the cops. Yes, okay,
Speaker 2: be a witness and give a statement, because odds are
Speaker 2: you can handle whatever comes with it and whatever comes
Speaker 2: from it, and you might be helping somebody out. Be
Speaker 2: the lady who knocks on the cop window and asks
Speaker 2: the girl, why did you shoot that woman?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 3: Why did you shoot her? Hello?
Speaker 1: Hello, call the cops, but don't call them every day
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: He don't do that and definitely not the children. Don't
Speaker 2: be racist. I can't stop telling people's stuff.
Speaker 1: That's the main one.
Speaker 3: Stop.
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Speaker 2: to give y'all some of my thoughts about that, because
Speaker 2: god damn we afford public city and all that's going on.
Speaker 2: She is not a baby gorgeous and I am my
Speaker 2: baby gorgeous late, But y'all know, I keep it real
Speaker 2: and I'm understandable.
Speaker 3: I'm reasonable.
Speaker 2: So we had a good conversation about city and of
Speaker 2: course Potomac and all the things over there. Still following
Speaker 2: this this thing with it, but you know, for y'all,
Speaker 2: and still don't understand why they wouldn't branstack the whole
Speaker 2: house and only the bedroom when yeah.
Speaker 3: Questions need to be asked, just call some cousins to
Speaker 3: come do it. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, because
Speaker 3: no one on the Crazy Sys and and all rosy
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Speaker 2: Is the penitentiary up in this bitch, I'm so worried.
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Speaker 2: loom Boys stressed me out so much. I had a
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Speaker 2: everybody is a fraud.
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