A Chunky Housewives Yap Fest w/Selle Brooks (@WhoAskedMePodcast)-RHOM Reunion, RHOSLC & RHOP

0:00 Speaker 1: Sounds rugg Hello, Hello, Hello, all you beautiful and wonderful mixologists out there. It is your girl Moni and you are in the mix with MANI look at that. Y'all remembered my own title this time. This is great. We love to see it. I'm coming to you again because, like again, we talked about the Bravo Vortex being in full effect, and that means that we got a lot of things to be talking about, a lot of things to work through, and a lot of people thankfully qualified, certified real like tea getters, Bravo holics, reality TV watchers, commentators of all things pop culture.

0:47 Speaker 1: I have a great lineup of people. Thank god they all say yes to me. We have so much to get through and I cannot believe. But I'm also so grateful. So here today I have with me Sell Brooks Brooks right, yeah, yeah, yeah, And she's like the content creator. If you're not following her, you should. Her podcast is called Who Asked Sel? And I did? I asked her? Actually, I asked her to come today. So I'm so excited you're here. Thank you so much for being here. How are you doing, I'm good? Thanks for having me.

1:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is the time, like, this is the time right before brav Usually this is where they like to really ramp it up. And wouldn't you know it's a month from like right now, Yeah, ramping it up they did. We are in full swing of all things Housewives you got, And I know I'm not covering all of it, but that's also because everybody is covering so many things all the time. But you know, shout out to Miami. I am watching that reunion. Holy shit, it is very they're having a ball over.

1:52 Speaker 2: Let me tell you something.

1:54 Speaker 3: Julia Dunwin and pissed the wrong bitch off. I have no clue, Like why she did that? Why did you think that that was going to I just I saw I just shared that like an entertainment tonight, Adriana was on with Bryce Sander I think it was uh and she.

2:15 Speaker 1: Was letting it fly again.

2:17 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, yeah, she was like this at the first time Martina dumb left her.

2:23 Speaker 2: She left her before in Paris.

2:26 Speaker 3: I was like, see again, what we know of Adriana, why would you do that? Like she loyal, so you hate her and then when she hates you, bad girl. It's a leaky falset and she's like I have she's it's gloves off. But also, Julia, you made some poor decisions this reunion. I'm happy to be watching yeah as a spectator, please keep making poor decisions.

2:50 Speaker 1: But you're really like, I'm like, what do you do? You hate your life? I'm just so confused, Like it just the thought process. I'm not seeing a fully baked plan here, no what we thought would happened or get to, especially with the backlash or the aftermath that we're like living in now with like Martina allegedly possibly leaving and you know, being like I'm done, but any Astra flied out with did Martina? Like what did you did?

3:15 Speaker 3: You know? You want to talk about this because I think it's the fact so like a lot is started didn't make sense now because uh huh, I was like, why does Martina?

3:24 Speaker 2: What is up with Martina's attitude this season?

3:26 Speaker 3: Like she just seems so and don't get me wrong, Martina never really seems like happy, go lucky that lady at all, but she is giving particularly shrill this season. And then when Julia's like, yeah, I told Martina four months ago.

3:42 Speaker 2: I said told her four months ago.

3:46 Speaker 1: That's it, and we're having this conversation on national television today. Then to know that Martina never wanted that to get out and you dropped it early. You did hit it out like in the first what ninety minutes of y'all recording essentially like.

4:03 Speaker 2: Like it's Julia does it really feels like Julia.

4:07 Speaker 3: Does not have a care for anybody else besides her, because I think back to like her kids, her daughters, how she's like, they're not talking to me. Now, could they not be talking to her? Because they're like.

4:18 Speaker 2: You're unstable? Why would you? Why would you adopt these.

4:21 Speaker 3: Two young these two young boys, and you're an unstable You're not a stable parent in the first place. You're running around cheating on Martina left and right, and then it's gonna fall on us because y'all are old. I really thought it was just like the age thing I really want, I mean, and the fact that that Julia wasn't very present with them according to them.

4:40 Speaker 1: And you know what I mean, you want to redo it now? It is right your life when you can't release the farm and the animals and apparently the bullshit behind in other places, but no there and I would have that would have been a fine reason for the kids to not even be speaking to her to begin with, But this is it's like a whole new level. There's so many I just it feels like this is beyond selfish. Selfish is a word. I'm just like, you wanted to you ended up imploading your own life. Whether or not you gave a shit about that is we will never really know.

5:14 Speaker 1: But it seems like the collateral damage wasn't worth the boom for anything other than a moment on TV. And I can't guarantee you'll have even that many more after it. We don't know. It just feel like a really big, risky move to me. So I'm just like, no one.

5:29 Speaker 3: Is asking for Julia back, right, and there's not enough. There's not enough there for me to care about. Like if Martina ends up filing for divorce from her, I don't care.

5:38 Speaker 2: I don't want to see Julia back.

5:40 Speaker 3: And I also find it very did you see her apparent social worker arguing in the comment section with.

5:46 Speaker 1: Gertie, Yes, okay, and again anytime. First of all, and it's not just because I like Gerty. It's more than that this woman, Julia is a specific targeting of Gerty, Like the beef with Gerdy is so it's like it's so blatant that I'm just like, come on, y'all, like yeah, are we serious, Like we're just gonna it just feels it's never made sense. It is beyond a jealousy situation. This is not normal, you know, and we're seeing like housewife on housewife jealousy, weird relationship shit that's like of a full level and where they both see each other as formidable opponents.

6:23 Speaker 1: It's just something about the way Julia pursues Gerdy that doesn't feel like, you know, quite the same situation. It's definitely very different than how she fights with the other ladies. And she does fight with the other ladies.

6:35 Speaker 3: She absolutely does. And again I don't understand what, like something makes me so uncomfortable about Julia adopted Julia Martinez adopting those boys.

6:46 Speaker 1: Like yes, this on threads and I couldn't repost it fast.

6:50 Speaker 3: Enough I could, I cannot really fully put it into words, but the fact that the social worker is now arguing with Gerdy in the comment section, like where is the linehere?

7:00 Speaker 2: Where is the professionalism? And please one thing, bravo, people know how to do is dig into some shit.

7:05 Speaker 3: So if you know that there's some sketchy shit going on here, or it's you know, out of the Norman to a private from what I understand, it's a private agency.

7:15 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, all right. I've seen this play out before and I don't love it. There's I have big feelings about multi racial adoption period and as it just you know, a person who, oh I don't know, got a master's in childhood development elementry education certificate in like eighty A and child like you know, different disabilities and things like that, and a strong interest in social justice and racial relations and like sel and belonging and things like that. Belonging is like literally such a big component to a child's adolescence, the pulling where they feeling a sense and understandable community is what community and family looks like, how they relate to the world.

8:05 Speaker 1: And I'm just not seeing how that's gonna be fully addressed and accessible to these babies. Nope, that home, especially now that you're fighting on national TV or revealing on national TV that you like to get around, well not right.

8:22 Speaker 3: So now stable home that most social workers and adoption agencies love is no more as of like right now, like just yesterday. That is what I am most confused about. When you when you go for adoption, they dig so deep into your business. They do ask about like if there have been any recent separations or anything like that. But not only that, like the to your point of her getting around like that, the cheating, but also the anger, the anger, Juliet. It still is baffling to me that those ladies, even though it shouldn't be because they are not the smartest bunch, and instead of they were so focused on gerdy.

9:03 Speaker 3: Why oh why they could not turn around because I've seen Alexia do it before, like change her mind or you know, have a realization mid sentence why they couldn't turn around and be like, Julia, we love you, but like we what we just saw. Because we love you, we have to pull you up on this and we you have a habit of throwing things at each other as people, and all of us can collectively do better when she gets to throwing things, or anybody gets to throwing things, because we can all agree that it's crossing the line.

9:33 Speaker 2: But Julia, you are the one that throws things.

9:35 Speaker 3: Why the fuck these grown ass women could not get to that, but we're like, oh, but Gerdy, when this got thrown at me, you didn't say anything, Alexia. I don't see you jumping in the line of fire either, Babe.

9:49 Speaker 1: No, it's just it's really giving. This at least one thing I hate sometimes in Florida, y'all's reputation for how you value and treat the girlies of the African diaspora, the black girlies is really, really, really sketchy, and on Miami, I'm here to tell you it's not looking better. This is not the first season that we have had this conversation that these things have come up. It's some time I remember saying the words, I don't know if I feel like my girl Gerty is safe on this show. And I don't mean to say physically she can take care of herself.

10:23 Speaker 1: I definitely believe in a mat and a matter between her and Julia. It's Gerty every day. I'm putting money on that, like it's Baldi. First of all, Baldi the baldy alone. She got it in the bag, and oh look, she got it in the bag. So I already know why Julia is mad. But the rest of you, it's really giving. Not a good place and I hate that, like I really do, because things like this start planning seeds. You know, we don't say something now to Julia, especially when it feels really extra targeted and you want to turn it on Gerdy victim blame me.

10:56 Speaker 1: That feels like another like you almost feel like she deserves it, like you almost like you don't, you don't care, and I don't like that.

11:03 Speaker 3: And my thing with the Miami anybody who likes like okay, but Gerdy, she doesn't really hint like she doesn't explain herself, well, she doesn't. None of them do everything that people like say Gerty does. All of them are guilty of doing. None of them can read, Yeah I said it online. None of them can read. None of them are good at like explaining themselves all the way through. They all yell, they all take a roundabout way to get there like that's not they're all dramatic.

11:32 Speaker 2: They're all dramatic, like I don't so that is exactly.

11:36 Speaker 1: Talk about other people when you ask them straight queste. Adrianna can't answer a question without mentioning somebody else for the life of her, No, not at all, and not making about a man in sob like hello, please don't do that. It's Miami. That's what also his housewives. So I'm not looking for scholars, so please.

11:54 Speaker 2: Exactly all this.

11:57 Speaker 3: The only one that could all articulate themselves very well and straight to point was doctor Nicole She and hello, because I would listen if I was doctoring and call. I'm not dealing with that shit either. I'm not arguing with fucking Marisol. I'm not arguing Listen. In the words of Marca labount Hill, I say regular words at a tricky to you.

12:14 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Like I'm not.

12:17 Speaker 1: Tricky to you. You don't understand, So then like, what is it? Like I am having a good time with the Miami reunion. But this is one of the reasons that I expressedly tried not. I chose not to talk about the season overalls because especially for anybody who's been listening since like they're mixing with Monnie days, Like, it's only so many times that I could have relayed the same point. Yeah of hey, this is a micro aggrushion, this is a macro crush this is flat I raised sism and let me tell you why we'd be here all night and after all the things that happened in the last couple of years, and me teaching, teaching everybody, having me on to every podcast to teach and everything and come on there and explain, and then have her talking to me again like stop doing the work, quote unquote, So then so did I. I'm here to talk about the whites and the girls that make me giggle.

13:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, make me giggle. But I wanted y'all to know that Miami, this reunion has made me giggle because that lady is showing her ass and that's all I needed to see. I've been waiting.

13:19 Speaker 3: Julia to deliver her ass on a silver platter, no literally, because then here's my other thing. A couple of years back, I had completely forgotten that we were all like, wait a minute, is there something going on between Julia and Adriana because it was just such a non factor. I really don't care about Julia and I never have and I never will, especially.

13:40 Speaker 1: Never She's because I stopped watching so regularly. She's so boring to me. I hate her so much.

13:45 Speaker 3: Well, I don't like Martina, I don't like like I neither for people to be like, oh, this is the representation we finally have a queer housewife.

13:53 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.

13:54 Speaker 3: First of all, you cannot pay me to believe that Adriana and Julia are the only housewives that have bumped couchies.

14:02 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think that they are right.

14:05 Speaker 1: Laid around with that in Atlanta. Hello, oh exactly.

14:09 Speaker 3: But secondly, just because they are representation doesn't mean that they are the right representation, because they are god awfully transphobic.

14:17 Speaker 2: And I hate hate when.

14:23 Speaker 3: The inner people just conveniently forget about intersectionality.

14:27 Speaker 2: So Julia and Martina.

14:29 Speaker 3: Are white women, like, yes, they are gay, but they are white women first.

14:33 Speaker 2: Yes, they are white women first.

14:34 Speaker 3: And I have gotten into it with plenty of minty of gay white women queer white women where they're like, I have to you know, I'm gay and eye blah blah blah. When people look at you like one of the main ones, I'm like, you're feminine presenting. She's like, I lived my life out loud as a gay woman. I said, when you walk down the street, if you don't have a rainbow pin on, which is to be honest, yeah exactly, no one really knows you're gay. Yeah, you wear Doc Martin's and overalls, but that doesn't.

15:06 Speaker 2: You're still a white woman.

15:08 Speaker 3: Okay, same same thing, respond to, right, Martina and Julia and Martina and Juliets gay women, you are being put in the position.

15:18 Speaker 2: It's white gay women.

15:19 Speaker 3: You are being put in the position to represent for a community that you really cannot represent for. Like y'all are sitting here being like working against your own interest. Okay, Martina, LGBT T T What the fuck do you think the T is?

15:38 Speaker 1: An LGBT showing your ass out here on the interwebs and expect the same kind of I'm like, also, first of all, this is the gayest of the gay ones. This is housewise. Bravo, Nami, What are you even doing? Why are you? First of all, why even live there? I'm very concerned, Like you can go live your you know, you know, homesteading, you know, Willie White yet lesbian in life with Caitlin and them Jenner over there in like Utah are Wyoming. I'm sure, I'm sure having the time like they're doing. Fine, go homestead over there.

16:13 Speaker 1: I don't understand why you are here. It's I don't like it when people put themselves in spaces that they know. I don't want to say belong to other people, but are important to other people to belong in. They have no desire or need to belong because they exist in other communities that they In fact, they don't feel they have no difference. It's yeah, they don't see anything other than that's just who I sleep with, which is not the point and a privilege you will I will never understand. No, I will never get that life.

16:48 Speaker 1: Like nobody's talking to them when they come out, No parents telling them when they come out, why do you have to add another one to it? You're already blah and blah blah, Like that's not good story. They're allowed to just be accept for their one weird, different, quirky thing that they have. You know, it just happens to be who they love. And that's why they believe love is love, but not exactly because they actually believe in. And I really do hate bigoting. I really hate when y'all marginalized people be bigoty.

17:15 Speaker 1: I hate that, Like you've got to pick a struggle, hello hard.

17:20 Speaker 3: I just want to say this because somebody said this in my DMS. They were like, I never thought that the Haitian mortician might be a woman or not, might be a man, I said, I never thought it would be a woman. I didn't either, I said, I think the Haitian mortician is a man. I thought, that's literally why I just said it. And the cop isn't. Like, yeah, I said in the cop is a man, Martina. I'm pretty sure Julia told us Martina is the only woman she's been with.

17:51 Speaker 1: She's been with men.

17:54 Speaker 2: Okay, And technically, yes.

17:56 Speaker 3: I am bisexual, but like I'm not Julia bisexual.

18:00 Speaker 2: M hm, Like no, babe, okay is.

18:04 Speaker 1: Not even I think Julia is a chameleon. I think that I do too. It's given chameleon and I am sentence to it because I know people like I have known people like that because you try to get him out quick when you realize it, or you should or you should. But so, Martine, I hope it sticks, honestly, honey, because that girl is whatever the person that she needs to level up, that they need her to be. Yeah, so a man needs her to have never been she will be the straightest woman you've ever seen in about fifteen months.

18:35 Speaker 2: Yep.

18:36 Speaker 1: Exactly, never like it, nothing never happened, like it never happened. That the same way Stacy's voice has changed since she got back with her German husband that she never really left, but is now I talk. Yeah, I will call it out. I said, now, listen her breath not so hot that she gotta change her entire vocal and speech pattern. This is because she's back with that white man without That's what it is. That's what that is. And feel that you will be whoever you need to be to be where you want to go.

19:06 Speaker 3: And Julius going to the top can give a damn. She could give a damn about you, about you, about those boys, about her home kids, like when your kids have to tell you, mom, I think you should hang it up.

19:17 Speaker 1: You're not a good one.

19:19 Speaker 3: I think we should reevaluate choices and decisions like adopting children with needs I needs and then changing their names.

19:29 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's just evil. I just can't. I can't. My lady stressed me out. I really can't. And that's why I ended up y'all not talking about Miami because.

19:39 Speaker 3: Although this season was, I mean, I went on a rollercoaster. Did y'all have me really mad?

19:43 Speaker 1: Not watching? Then I binged it for a minute because you said go back. Then I watched this.

19:47 Speaker 3: Reunion live and I was like, and I love in real time watching you know, a white woman fall.

19:52 Speaker 1: It just is so good. It's so good when by her own demise. Yeah, I'm like, you know, the cars are not stacked against you. You're set up to looka you had a nice life. I would not. I'm sorry, it wouldn't be mad.

20:04 Speaker 2: I just find I find Julia to be so evil.

20:07 Speaker 3: In them anger issues because even that unt and to make no mistake, production has been doing her a favor, even that argument that at the end party when everybody was like, we don't know why Adrianna is so mad blah blah blah.

20:20 Speaker 2: And Gerty's sitting there explaining it. She's like, from what I understand, this is.

20:23 Speaker 3: What Adrianna is mad about, because you know, she and Gertie drew examples like oh, you know, like me and you with the text messaging and Julia's like, yeah, and you tried to put me on blast and blah blah blah, and.

20:36 Speaker 1: Gertie's like, no, I met you where you were at.

20:38 Speaker 3: But anyways, like Gertie tried to move on and she kept going with her, and then she's like, oh, Gertie, don't go there, don't go there.

20:45 Speaker 2: I'm like, is this a threat?

20:46 Speaker 3: And I was right there with Gertie when Gerty was like, are you getting angry? Do you want to throw something exact thing because.

20:54 Speaker 1: You get one? Are you mad?

20:56 Speaker 4: Yeah?

20:57 Speaker 3: Oh, Gertie, don't go there. I was like, bitch, don't tell me not to go there, because guess where.

21:02 Speaker 1: I'm going there, I'm gonna go there.

21:04 Speaker 3: Guess where I'm going. I'm hepically, Yeah, I'm already arrived. Yeah, bitch, I unpacked. I'm waiting on you to pick a room. But I've been here. Hello, come join, Okay, don't do me.

21:16 Speaker 1: I appreciate when the girlies show up and clock in for you know, the toe to toe and be like, you know, I'm gonna go there, you know. And the only time and this is, you know, a poor attempt at a segue, but I have to talk to continue the downfall of the Snowballs. The Salt Lake City Girl is over in Utah. The only time I'm like concerned is when they're a little two clocked in. Is when we get moments where like the entirety of an episode is spent at a table fighting about the same fight with Angie and Lisa and their entire situation.

21:55 Speaker 1: I want to find out where you see yourself or where you see it for more or less of the two ladies. And why is Angie k so obsessed with Lisa Barlow? I don't know. I just feel like she just keeps talking about her, but I know nothing else that's going on in her life this year. Yet this is episode what three four, and yet everyone is still We're all still on Lisa's lassus, which is great, but she's never gonna give us enough. So I'm just confused though, why we're still talking about her and her being the only mean one when all of y'all have clocked in.

22:31 Speaker 1: Is Lisa she I'm gonna say it like I mean it. Yeah, She'll say it without a clue. I mean she literally is like, who used to do this? On OC and be like, no, that's not a room. I'm just saying what I heard. If someone told me, I think it was Vicky, Like Vicky always used to do.

22:46 Speaker 2: This they a camera, yes.

22:49 Speaker 1: Constantly, Just be like, I just I'm saying, what if someone told me? So that's just you know, Lisa's taking a page out of that book. But it's just like it shocks me. How much work we it feels like we're still doing to engage in beit Lisa Barlow when also it don't take much. She's always like a half notch away from there.

23:11 Speaker 2: See, I am not a Lisa.

23:14 Speaker 1: Barlow fan, and I understand that I'm alone.

23:18 Speaker 3: Because here's my thing. And I said this, I said this on online. We after this, after this season. While I am having a good time, we do have to Lisa is gonna have to give us something. Lisa cannot go another season after the way they're coming at her now and the like it's time after this season. If she does not give us something else, if she does not start to bring the shell down, she's not going to last much longer. Because it's been a slow building. We've had other things to focus on.

23:47 Speaker 2: Jen Monica, you know what I mean.

23:50 Speaker 3: But those, yeah, a lot like Lisa has been able to get by because there's been bigger for sure, there has been jins, there has been my because but Loki Monica was tap tap tapping on bond Lisa's ass, right. We never saw Lisa get activated like that until Monica came.

24:09 Speaker 2: But here's my thing.

24:11 Speaker 3: I enjoyed this episode and I kind of do understand. I understand where the women are coming from with the lawsuits with Lisa, because she does not talk about anything, and because Lisa does do the digging, she does do digging. For the life of me, I still can't figure out why the fuck she's so mad at Bronwin.

24:33 Speaker 2: You're not mad that she lied about buying that necklace. It was loser ish, but she's not.

24:37 Speaker 3: The first housewife to put a front up like that. And she admitted it, like I shouldn't have done that.

24:43 Speaker 1: It was like, so she's semi admitted it. She had a really nice reasoning for with the girls at the camp site that I'm like, this only flew because Lisa wasn't there.

24:55 Speaker 3: And that does I feel like she told what she told us like the.

24:59 Speaker 1: Old But also you just didn't buy it, And I can understand why. Yeah, his is off Lisa because she's supposed to be so rich, and Lisa brought you on the show because Lisa is shallow and superficial and likes to bring her rich ass friends. And for you to be a non rich, play rich and act make the public think that you were that rich bitch to get that entire necklace and then to tell Andy, No, that was what God, Lisa, the cheekiness of you thought you see it. You don't know where I'll wear it. And She's like, you don't have it, you don't have.

25:28 Speaker 2: It, right but and I understand that.

25:31 Speaker 3: But for me, like Lisa gets really upset over like personal things, right when you talk about John, when you like talk about dire Wolf or whatever the fuck that hairs straight. She I can't imagine you're not upset about that necklace you because Lisa does know the importance of her family. One thing I don't doubt is that Lisa loves her family. She loves John. So you're not picking at this necklace. I can't understand why. And I'm supposed to be your friend. I'm gonna tell you right like to pretend to be.

26:00 Speaker 3: I know you're new to this x y Z. But the levels in which she got to with Bronwin and I'm never ever ever going to get over that whole like a Gwenn's birth father's family situation crazy was Lisa just takes it to a new level without really like giving a heartful resolution. She'll just be like, I love you so much and I think that you're such a great friend.

26:22 Speaker 2: But for me, I am a fire sign. I'm in aries.

26:26 Speaker 3: I'm really good at like I'm like, don't get me wrong, I'll meet you there.

26:30 Speaker 2: You're not about to play with me. But I also can cut it off.

26:33 Speaker 3: I'll be like, okay, idiot, you're dumb ass, like you're saying you don't shop in Bronwen or Bronwyn and Nortschua.

26:38 Speaker 2: I mean, while you'd already told us that you.

26:40 Speaker 3: And bronwyin met Nordstrum, you're a fucking liar and I'm not arguing with you anymore. I can see where Lisa gets somebody to tit and tap with her, because I like, when I'm watching her, I'm like, no, that's not what you said there. Take it back here, take it back here, take it back here. Bronwyn is mature, and she's like it's a race to the.

26:56 Speaker 2: Bottom, and I don't want to do that.

26:58 Speaker 3: Angie is like, I'm gonna be get with her every single time.

27:04 Speaker 2: But I understand. I understood what all of the ladies were saying as well, which was you and Lisa used to be close, and you know that Lisa has always been like this.

27:15 Speaker 1: So when she and when you engage in exactly exactly that you said you've had enough, and to be honest, I agree with you. I saw a lot of sins coming out of the group, not like it's not that we are We're not siding with Lisa, which is weird that Angie also took it like that. We thought that because she could just she's jumped ship and been like, I get it, I am over this lady. They admit that they would be like completely blind, and Ray Charles to the fact of like, yeah, I mean yes, but you can't say that you've never done that, and that's what you're kind of exactly and you have because he used to do it with old girl that we all does this a lot.

27:54 Speaker 3: But and I understand where Angie's coming from. So like Monday, my mom would always be like, pay attention because if they do that to other people, they will do that to you. I can give Angie a little bit of grace and being like she thought maybe Lisa would never do that.

28:07 Speaker 1: With her, she was exempt.

28:09 Speaker 2: But also I.

28:10 Speaker 3: Understood where both Mary and the group were coming from and where Angie was coming from, right, because when I am mad at somebody and we all agree. My one problem with the group but again I understand it. They're trying to talk to the person with more sense, which is Angie. Right, They're like, I can calm Angie down, I can tell explain this to We can't listen to reason and explain this to Lisa because it's Lisa and I do. I have a great dislike for the excuse. Oh, that's just so and so, that's just so and so.

28:42 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, well, how so and so is. It's fucking rude, right, Like, don't tell me, Oh, that's just how they are as an excuse for me to accept their rudeness. But Angie is not having it. And I can see when she was talking to Mary and she was like, she's done stuff to you. But at the same time, I'm like, Mary does not give a fuck about Lisa.

29:01 Speaker 2: And that's why Mary was exactly because Mary was like, hold up. Mary was like, hold up, who's kissing the ring?

29:08 Speaker 1: Mary? I say, I said, I don't.

29:09 Speaker 3: Even think we've ever seen Mary and Lisa have a lunch of one on one.

29:14 Speaker 2: They do not engage.

29:17 Speaker 3: No, So she when Angie when Mary was like I'm done with you, I understood it for two things. First of all, you have to calm down. You have to calm down. And I said this again. I'm in aries I get. Once I get there, there's no come down. If I can't get you calm down, I can't help you. Okay, because it's hard for me to believe that anybody, I know how bad I get, it's hard for me to believe.

29:40 Speaker 2: That anybody gets above me.

29:42 Speaker 3: And then also, you're not gonna sit here and tell me that I kiss somebody's ass who I literally just show up and film with.

29:48 Speaker 2: I don't see this, bitch unless we're filming.

29:50 Speaker 3: Like you watch it, watch it, watch yourself, and yeah, watch yourself. Okay, don't sit here and tell me that I'm kissing anybody's ass when all I'm doing is showing up to the work required events.

30:03 Speaker 1: Yeah.

30:03 Speaker 3: So I understood Mary one hundred percent. I think Angie was more so talking about like the Heathers, because I've been on Heather's ass about her allegiance to Losers. Right it is, Heather cannot Heather does say things that make sense. Heather knows better. That's why she pisses me off. Because she says things in her confessionals and to the other women that she gets it when it comes to Lisa, but she doesn't say it to Lisa.

30:27 Speaker 2: I She'll say half.

30:27 Speaker 1: Of them knows though, that she's got to pick her back, and it's just not a person with six And I think she just figured out that while being her enemy is not something that she's interested in, because Lisa does go too far. She doesn't need to be Angie k and get in the beach with her and go googling and searching on the pokio to hook somebody up. But it's better to be on her chill side and like, you're just not looking at me, you're not coming at me. Yeah, because she has closest access to her that she at least can also know.

31:00 Speaker 1: He was the only person right now who knows how she thinks the most too. She's the only person at least has been like semi vulnerable with. But she pried in front of you know and others, like you know, trying to I could see her trying to needle at her because I think either I read her book and I think she's done. I don't want to say she's done the work because I don't really know her life like that, right, it seems like she understands the assignment, I will say. Yeah, She's like, if I'm gonna get through this season without this lady making me have oil to break down, I don't want to do that with her.

31:31 Speaker 1: They're a simple solution, and it's, you know, be a friend to her. I don't think necessarily even that she would think of herself as her friend and using those words very carefully because it seems like she's like someone has to be a good friend to her so that she doesn't feel alone, and then starts spiraling at everybody. But in being a good friend to her, she's not clocking her and Jen keeping her the way because lista bar she knows that she would never accept that. She would just get combative, much like how angk is making sense.

32:01 Speaker 1: It gets lost and Lisa going back and forth with her, and then Angie gets immature and does the thing, and then there's no coming back for either of them. So I was like, I can at least, like plant seeds, like you can be vulnerable, you can cry, It's okay to be upset, and we're seeing I said on the first episode of the show, Lisa, this was gonna be a hard one for baby gorgeouses out there. I was like, Oh, this is gonna be a bad one because if one thing about me, I'm self aware. I'm a Torris, so I'm a real bitch.

32:30 Speaker 1: I really understand in my mom I'm so realistic. So I'm like, yeah, but also I'm watching this show knowing that everybody's a little bit psycho and a lot of bit chartistic. But that's why I'm here, you know, And I like that I happen to be a person who also just like I hate an underdog situation like with me. And I know Lisa's gonna have a bad season. I know she was gonna have a bad season. My concern was that all the women were gonna make this storylines about her bad season. Let her have her bad season.

33:04 Speaker 1: I have yet to get into any of y'all having a good season out of the takedown of Lisa or the exposure of Lisa's big business practices or whatever.

33:13 Speaker 2: I mean.

33:14 Speaker 1: To be honest, it's so like city, I'm expecting each one of y'all have one of these type of seasons a year. Yeah.

33:19 Speaker 3: Well, okay, so it's gonna beat her business first, Yeah, you know, it'll be this.

33:22 Speaker 1: One then only that one. That's exactly what I'm expecting, because I truly again don't think Whitney ever knew that her business may or may not have been an MLM. I don't think she was aware. We were.

33:32 Speaker 2: She wasn't we were.

33:34 Speaker 3: We were.

33:35 Speaker 2: I was very aware, we were, we were very aware.

33:39 Speaker 3: We weren't very aware. I think I said that as well. But I and we're justin. Apparently was where Justin worked, Apparently was MLM coded as well.

33:50 Speaker 1: But I will say she gets you get fired because your wife is gonna okay.

33:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

33:56 Speaker 3: I will say I'm with you, and I agree with you what you're saying about. I see all of the women having their own stories, but I think with Lisa it's just gotten to a point where she is always quick to have something about someone else.

34:11 Speaker 2: So when there is something.

34:12 Speaker 3: Printed about you in the paper, and you are so quick to poke at somebody else and say, actually this so and so told me this, I know so and so who knows so and so? And they told me you didn't buy that necklace, and blah blah blah, like I always said, if it was in the Salt Lake City Tribune, Bronwin Newport did not buy that necklace. Lisa would have it right there and be like, did it have the necklace? Never had the necklace. Here's the proof, it's in the paper, so that it's that impression. By the way, what I say about Lisa is them tables on Lisa.

34:42 Speaker 3: They turned quickly. Her tables turned really really quickly. And we think what the best practice would be for Lisa in this group moving forward is that the reunion, we just have to show a package of Lisa digging quote unquote digging and having information on other people, and then but we also have to meet her with grace and show her that she can be vulnerable, because Lisa's reading and Whitney's reading were not different when it came to their husbands, and Lisa thinks she is like this golden Laboo boo where she has a perfect marriage and perfect kids and nothing is going to shake that marriage is hard.

35:23 Speaker 2: I have no doubt.

35:24 Speaker 3: I'm no doubt that Lisa and John love each other, no doubt about that, and I think that they both want to work it out with one another. But they're in a season that that is hard, and I can understand not wanting to invite, not even the other women cameras into that shit. Because then people's especially in the housewife universe, they start picking and they start looking for.

35:43 Speaker 1: Things, you know what I mean, signs and stuff.

35:45 Speaker 3: Like that, And I don't think Lisa is mentally strong enough to actually like handle that.

35:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely think so.

35:52 Speaker 3: Dead woman has not had emotional a success in the emotional vulnerability department, probably.

36:00 Speaker 1: Most of not all of her life. I'm even I'm even tempted to say it might have been one of the draws to Mormonism, because she is not Mormon by by nature is a convert. And I think that, and I'm thinking back, like, of the cast, I think she's probably the only one who's like actively trying to be Mormon. I don't think it's any of the other ones. And maybe Roman, but I don't think so. So I know, yeah, so it's just so. Then it makes me think if you are a civilizer, mormonal wives watcher like me and a lot of other people, then you also know there is an insane amount of pressure on them to be perfect.

36:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, look perfect, a perfect marriage, because that means God has blessed them, right, We've done the things and they're so successful. So also, vulnerability is not celebrated at all amongst these people. It's much why Taylor, Frankie Paul kept getting in the business. It's a lot of like I like to remind people that the whole segilizing woman Wife started because the world had a different reception to what you ta thought the reception would be. They are all of her friends and whatnot left her because they were like, you're exposing you're being bad, you're doing the swinger things.

37:19 Speaker 1: And the rest of us who watch trash TV and have a good time, we like a law and order every once in a while, we're like swing or what, yeah, you talk about it, let me get a can we get a camera? And then they were like, wait, wait people, people people like that. Yes, the world is outside of Utah. And I don't think Lisa Barlow sometimes knows that, but she thinks she knows that, but it matters so much to her how she looks, especially even on this show. She's been living like this for a long time and I think that part of it.

37:50 Speaker 1: And she's a what is she a Capricorn? I think she's a Capricorn December uh.

37:54 Speaker 2: Huh, she's a Sagittarist.

37:56 Speaker 1: He's sat a terrorist, I'm pretty sure. So she is let me look it up, but she, Lisa is December fourteenth. Yep, that's a saturt terrorist dolls with bones, they are, and it's crazy that I even like her, because I don't like sagit terrorists. Most times. The winter signs are hard for me.

38:15 Speaker 2: Hard for me too.

38:17 Speaker 1: I'm not a tornado of an emotion person. I like, nah, I remote when it makes sense, and I'm stubborn as hell, but I'll give grace and I understand reasoning.

38:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, one of my really good friends is a Taurus, and like she is so funny. Tauruses are so funny because y'all are stubborn. But like how I feel is how I feel, and y'all like that's fine, but how that's not how I feel.

38:43 Speaker 2: But like y'all aren't gonna argue about it.

38:44 Speaker 1: You're like, that's that's totally fine.

38:46 Speaker 3: Like you you feel that way, You're like you feel that way and not totally fine.

38:50 Speaker 2: But me over here, I'm gonna feel like this and lazy and I'm not and I'm not yeah, and I'm not moving.

38:57 Speaker 1: And that's probably why I'm also so sensitive to people going up around Lisa, because like, after a while, I'm like, I'm bored with this. She's never gonna tell y'all the truth, and y'all are not making it easy or some of you are not making it eat. Like any kind of vulnerability that could have happened that day, Angie never wanted to happen for Lisa. She came in there with a plane with that box full of toys, like, I'm giving this back like the bunny in Beverly Hill, I'm giving it back. And I said, no, that was a stunt queen.

39:22 Speaker 1: Okay, that was.

39:23 Speaker 3: A stunt queen, but Lisa is a stunt queen first because sending that Lady.

39:27 Speaker 1: And I just felt like a really bit It just felt like it's so interesting because Whitney and them, like the girls, Whitney had a different intention y'all, like Lisa would have taken the bait and maybe been vulnerable, maybe shared something or anything. But like, genuinely it felt like Angie was like, Nah, I'm gonna take this is my moment. I'm making it official. I'm I'm breaking the friendship contract with our null and void because Lisa cares so much again about how things look. If this small of vulnerability because of the psychic and we're all sharing and things happened and could have made her look better.

40:07 Speaker 1: She probably would have engaged. I really do think probably if you would have been able to do that for her, because I think she cares that deeply about like I think you can at people about anybody's personal personal shit getting on there because it's interesting. You made it such a good point about how she handled the whole when and Brounwin thing. It felt very clear that Browmin didn't even want to talk about the entire season, so it was like wild to me, and I had a moment of like, damn, Lisa, that was foul, Please don't do that.

40:36 Speaker 1: She looks so uncomfortable. But I also remember how worried and anxious Lisa got for what's Bronin's husband named gout Dick Todd, that's it God, because she was was saying that Todd had, like you know, I don't remember what allegation it was, either they had an emotional affair, emotional affairs, and that it really upset her, and all Lisa could think about was how it was gonna make tot look. I'm telling you, she is like tapped in on the aesthetic, the aesthetic, the esthetic and it makes her look bad in her mind if things and people around her also don't.

41:16 Speaker 1: I mean, look at her deepest friends or merit it, that's another one. He's an one. Everything has to look shiny, happy people.

41:22 Speaker 3: Well, I think that's what kills me about Lisa being so like upset about these about these lawsuits, and then about like whatever, Like I said, whatever's going on with her and John? Because I find Lisa to be deeply shallow, ironic, deeply shallow, like she is an inch deep, So like, whatever's going on with the law I looked into the lawsuits. It's and I will say this, I'm not a baby gorgeous fan whatsoever. But from a business point of view, they were loans or in her business partner's name, that they did not have any type of contract.

41:55 Speaker 3: They did not have any type of agreement of when there would be a timeline of paying them back or if they would even be paid back, or the minimum right. So from a business standpoint, is it great business?

42:06 Speaker 1: No?

42:07 Speaker 3: But I would probably be contesting the same thing if you tried to sue me, I'd be like, we never had any.

42:14 Speaker 2: Type of agreement.

42:14 Speaker 3: So I don't necessarily think she's wrong and what I also said about those lawsuits is that it's nothing. It's not Jenshaw like watch your pocketbook, right, if she walks into a room, let's say it's all true. If she walks into a room, no one's gonna be.

42:27 Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, that's Lisa, Da da da da.

42:29 Speaker 3: It's just it's very much so something that's a part of business, and she tries to That's what kills me.

42:34 Speaker 2: All of her shit is kind of shallow. Her and John are going through a moment.

42:38 Speaker 3: Of stress, and I knew that's what that was when she posted all them fucking pictures of them on the yacht and at the game looking happy. That's for her, so she can be like, look at my marriage. It's fine. It's fine. Marriages go through times. Lisa, you are not some again golden laboo boo fairy that that is exempt from all of this.

42:59 Speaker 2: It's okay.

43:00 Speaker 3: I think that's what drives me besides the fact that she argues like Trump. That is what drives me fucking mad about her in the first place. None of her shit is that deep, none of it.

43:10 Speaker 1: But also for her being that shallow, this is probably the hardest thing for her. It is This is like the deepest thing for her. It is people letting her know that her business isn't perfect. I could have told you that Vida stop being sold in local stores. Sorry, I've never seen it before exactly, but like so I've been talking about how it's been out of production for a little bit mmm and allegedly, but also it's not around like this is a while. So but the bottom that I got was delicious.

43:40 Speaker 2: I'm a tequila drinker, so I love tequila.

43:43 Speaker 1: And they sent it, you know, once upon a time, you know, she Lisa is what you see is what That's how deep it is. Yeah, so I can see also though it for her, this is the hard shit. This is you hating me. You want to tear me down. And you know how much I love my businesses, even if well you know how much I love the look of how successful my businesses are. Bron When you exposing the ingredients of my big mac means people are not going to think it is delicious and amazing, even if they haven't had one ever or seen it ever before.

44:21 Speaker 1: I care now that the only time they're gonna think about it is with this shit. So this is the biggest betrayal for her, which is why Angie is so triggered because she's like, you're saying all these things like they don't have consequences as well, like these are not the biggest things like for other people, like you know now. But also so we gotta stop fighting every time somebody comes for your business, you say that they're cheating on somebody. Please leave the marriages a little.

44:48 Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing.

44:49 Speaker 3: Also, like give Angie's first season, I was an Angie Casanevis doubter right, I'm still daughter.

44:56 Speaker 1: But y'all you like her, but y'all can have the November December. I'm okay.

45:01 Speaker 3: I definitely like when for me they're too similar, Yeah, said they're too similar for me when they one she did have to come on this show and defend her husband's sexuality her first season. She she really did. And then she also was connected to Jenshaw. So that's why Angie I'm like, okay. Angie has definitely like she's shown us some things, Snowflake she has and I have been. I was a cosmetologist, I did hair. I actually do know a couple of straight guys that did hair.

45:35 Speaker 2: And we're in the community.

45:37 Speaker 1: With U, are they? Yeah? Unicorns.

45:39 Speaker 3: Yes, but they exist, they are right, and especially in that older I feel like less likely now this new generation. But back then I went to beauty school, like over ten years ago. Yeah, what is it, twenty twenty five, close to fifteen. Yeah, So there were letting y'all know, if you're not watching this on something visible like the Patreon or something.

46:00 Speaker 1: Se looks all of twenty seven, just letting you know, Oh I wish. I'm just saying it's it's giving thank you. Fifteen years girl with elementary school. I don't understand.

46:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, fifteen years ago.

46:12 Speaker 3: So like I feel like it was more likely back then than it is now, you know what I mean. So like I was when I first saw Sean, I was like, okay, but then I was like, I think, you know, I think he's just a unicorn. And I think one thing about Utah people, they're gonna find a way to make money.

46:31 Speaker 2: Okay.

46:31 Speaker 1: One thing about Utah wives is they married to somebody that most people think is probably gay, that's just hanging. So Sean or Sean's the least.

46:40 Speaker 3: Literally Mormon or you because us that I thought were gay, especially again after Secret Lives, because I have to remember which ones.

46:51 Speaker 1: I don't think are gay on that show.

46:53 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, sidetrack, maybe one. Have you seen Jesse's husband's hair lately, Jordan, and.

47:02 Speaker 1: You know she'd be doing everybody's hair, is he?

47:04 Speaker 3: She dyed his hair and his beard like dark and it is so visible, Like I am like.

47:12 Speaker 1: Girl, what that's a terrible idea. It is already.

47:18 Speaker 3: No, yeah, it's so bad. He's already like, I don't think he's cute whatsoever?

47:23 Speaker 1: No, and I.

47:24 Speaker 3: Hello, hello, it's giving arrangements. We're told we need to have babies. I want to be able to fight with himever I want, and you want to be able to go on what solo guys camping weekends twice a year. Well, you know the lore between Jesse about Jesse and Jordan, right, Oh, how they got together?

47:44 Speaker 1: Yeah?

47:45 Speaker 3: No, no, no, they were both married. Well I think, yeah, they were both married before. She was married before and allegedly she cheated on her husband with Jordan, and she didn't know that that pattern uh huh, that that baby was and whether it was her ex husband's or Jordan's. And I have looked to the depths of the earth to try and find that ex husband, and I cannot find him.

48:09 Speaker 1: And that's stay tuned to see it. It's because she might.

48:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't let me get in over.

48:20 Speaker 1: It's not like Ashley.

48:21 Speaker 3: I'm a dog with a bone. I was looking up divorce to up until yeah, like I'm gonna find it. If it's out there, I will.

48:28 Speaker 2: Look it up.

48:29 Speaker 3: But yeah, And then the only one that I'm like, the only husband that I'm kind of like he's cute and I can see it for is I think Mikayla's husband, Macy's.

48:42 Speaker 2: Husband, Macy Macy's husband.

48:43 Speaker 3: Yea yea husband is the one that is conveniently an age that doesn't quite make sense for when they and I don't think he's cute, but I like their relationship though, And then I do.

48:56 Speaker 1: Too.

48:57 Speaker 3: I do too, I do, And I will say also, even though I cannot stand Whitney and I'm stand everybody's now, do I think she's gonna win Dancing with the Stars, Yes, I do.

49:08 Speaker 2: Can I stand her?

49:10 Speaker 1: No?

49:10 Speaker 3: Okay, I cannot because I love Sieglaza Mormon wife that she's killing it, Okay, But I will say one thing that I appreciate is how Connor.

49:20 Speaker 2: Loves Whitney because whatever's going on there.

49:24 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't care what I do appreciate how he loves that woman because he said like he was like, I created a TikTok to show you guys a different side of Whitney and because we was all up in around that girl's ass.

49:38 Speaker 2: And I don't like her.

49:39 Speaker 3: I still do not like her, but I appreciate certain things about Whitney.

49:43 Speaker 2: And one of those things is her husband.

49:44 Speaker 1: It's her husband loving her that way.

49:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.

49:48 Speaker 1: In fact, Whitney, I'm like, oh, you do make a good choice. You may have a good choice, and that's fine. And I will say I at least respect Whitney for giving us such a great first season of basically her auditioning to be back in the group, or in the second season of her auditioning to be back in the group, and every episode asking for a vote. That was great. I thank you for sacrificing your self esteem or your ego.

50:10 Speaker 2: Well, I also think Whitney is a lesbian.

50:16 Speaker 1: And that's why she wants to go live on a farm. It's repressing. We're repressing. We're repressing. Listen, y'all. Also, we are qualified. I've looked.

50:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can say this, I don't care.

50:29 Speaker 3: I'm here to tell you a lot of people are having some repressed thoughts on in Utah. So the fact that like Angie.

50:39 Speaker 1: K was where like people were like, oh, your husband looks like you've got so a rock. Everybody in the swig looks like he's a little and that's fine. Yeah there y'all. Though, Also that snow like your snow globe, that you think that's something that you gotta hide, It's like, yeah, like everywhere else, we're just like. I also think that's why she ran away.

51:02 Speaker 3: I don't like whatever is going on with Connor in the dating side, sure, but I also think she heard Taylor and then was swinging over there and she.

51:08 Speaker 2: Wanted to go.

51:12 Speaker 3: So she was like, we have to get to Hawaii because I could not imp I have been fighting temptation this long. I will not have it on my doorstep in mom talk.

51:22 Speaker 1: But okay, okay, listen, but let me tell you something. If you really get o Whitney, Hawaii ain't gonna be. They won't tall and they don't care, so they don't find you a nice I want. I loved Like back in early two thousand, sitcoms, like all the girlies, like all the black sitcoms, they would do those two part episodes where they would go on a trip somewhere, like the whole family or group or whatever. They'd go to whatever vacation and it would be like Hawaii and there would be like one lost lover.

51:51 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, man, if we did that in today's time, we could have a much better time, guys. I think we could have a nice shot.

51:58 Speaker 3: I literally remember that sister so her so I three came to mind.

52:05 Speaker 1: It was like that one.

52:06 Speaker 3: Definitely, my wife and kids at some point. Yeah, like they went to it was two.

52:10 Speaker 1: Parts filling out this girl and it was Leilani. She was stick of hal I said, um, hmm, okay, okay, I'm going to Hawaii. That's even as a youth, okay.

52:19 Speaker 2: And and what was that? What was that movie?

52:22 Speaker 3: Was it Rip Girls or something on Disney Channel that was like, yeah, I remember watching that, being like, hmm, I remember watching Michelle. What's that She's from Fast and Furious Michelle.

52:36 Speaker 1: Okay, you know she.

52:37 Speaker 3: Was in Blue Crush too, Yeah, okay, but if you made if you remade Blue Crush today, that girl's on that character is a lesbian that's why she was Actually we're not saying it, but they didn't give her. They she had no love interests, and she was really upset when her best friend was running off after dudes and she didn't want to be any she was a lesbian f why that was the origin story for my wife and I.

53:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, in high school, I was her. We were best friends, partners in crime. We got the superlative four and her prom. He's a very good boy. He's a very nice man.

53:12 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Jamal, did you so hurty?

53:16 Speaker 1: This was like, why are you always hang in l M? I just don't understand. I don't know. I always hang out with me and now you want to something in well, he didn't even talk about nothing. He used to walk by him in the hallway season like sitting on the on the floor by the lockers and being like, you're not even talking about nothing boring like what any like got her sprinkle cookies to ask her to prom and me a Housewives watch was like sprinkle cookies, cookies, okay, but I'm like, yeah, terrible, Like it's one of my non proudest moments.

53:49 Speaker 1: I think I told this this is on the show before, but on the beautiful Spirit of Washington boat that the housewives been on plenty of times. They had like their first kissed. My wife and her prom date up there, and I let a slow clap of the entire top deck. I wanted everyone to clap.

54:08 Speaker 1: I'm not proud of it that I am married to her, so it's all good.

54:12 Speaker 2: My god.

54:15 Speaker 3: And because I'm a delusional girl, I've convinced her that she owes me another prom because I'm traumatized by having her there with a man.

54:23 Speaker 1: I'm living there with me.

54:26 Speaker 2: That is so funny.

54:29 Speaker 3: No, I just you know, me and Meghan, I'm just the trope. I was sy goo when we first My best friend was like, oh, don't you have ano this in mind? You this is like two months ago. She was like, don't you have any anniversary coming up? And I was like in October and.

54:43 Speaker 1: She was like, it is you.

54:46 Speaker 3: She was like, you, I'm pretty sure this weekend last year you told me you had a girlfriend. I was like, you know, she was my girlfriend before she was actually my girlfriend exactly. I listen shout out to everybody who had to listen and me talk about her because my friend Alisa. If you happen to hear this, God blessed Elsa because I know I was wearing her. Then she was like just she was like, you gotta tell her, you gotta tell her. And I was like no, no, no, no, no, I'm good.

55:17 Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good. And then yeah, so I was that girl.

55:21 Speaker 1: I understand, I understand it. Again. I was like, ill, yeah, proudly regret nothing, but am death. I mean, listen, we don't know what steps if I changed them, would have let me be here today. I don't be married. So all I know is it worked out. Yeah, Whitney, it could for you to just give it a shot. Just think about it, think about it. I'm nothing to you know, induction Nate. The gurly is over.

55:51 Speaker 3: And so wait, did you see also did you see that what apparently Taylor for he Paul posted and then deleted really quickly.

55:57 Speaker 1: Yes, that was really quick. But what that girl is somebody is sleeping with her baby daddy.

56:05 Speaker 2: But I guess she's friend.

56:07 Speaker 1: And boohooing about allegedly a married man that broke up with her, probably because he was married, so we could have predicted it. But then you're calling me crying but allegedly sleeping with my baby daddy. That's crazy, but I expect nothing less from the trash.

56:25 Speaker 3: Anybody's sleeping with Dakota is crazy.

56:28 Speaker 1: That's a weird kind of clout. Dick sucker, that's what that is. Yeah, okay, clocket. You know Solid City is pretty much. That was pretty much. That's pretty much the longest short of it. And you know the girls are fighting. Lisa's gonna have a hard season. I can't admit it, and I don't think she's gonna grow from it. So we're just gonna baby gorgeouses. We're gonna have a hard time. But the important thing is for us to keep a straight mind, realistic, for us to know what's going on. Mangase we're in touch with reality.

57:03 Speaker 3: We will not become Angie K and engage in conversation that makes so Look. At one point, I was like, Angie, she's gone, you're still going calm down?

57:11 Speaker 1: And they were like, nah, she gone. Man, she y'all left. She's like I can't believe her. Can you do you see what she's doing? They're like, yes, girl, we've all seen it. We know sometimes you see what she's doing. She's doing it right now. And she said like, yeah, I got it got its. Heather was like literally MVP in this episode, so she was like it, who does a reading with an open door? That's all I could focus on, Yeah, why is the door open? And then I'm supposed to be like then the silly music plays of people going in and out during the readings, because the real reading is happening at the table.

57:42 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have been able to concentrate.

57:44 Speaker 1: I would have been like I couldn't concentrate.

57:46 Speaker 2: No, I would have been like, I'm sorry, can you hold on a second? What is that?

57:50 Speaker 3: Like?

57:50 Speaker 1: I literally that would be like can.

57:52 Speaker 2: Y'all can y'all speak up? Because I can't hear you in here?

57:55 Speaker 3: That would have been when Angie had to go get her props. I said, no, Annie, they're in the middle of read it.

58:00 Speaker 1: Can you wait? Whose life is at stake in this?

58:05 Speaker 3: You know?

58:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't know why they did that. It felt really weird to be like, that's the place, but this is also our green room. I know that was supposed to be quirky, but it didn't.

58:13 Speaker 2: Yeah for me, Yeah, I don't know.

58:15 Speaker 1: I don't get it, But that's what happens when you know you don't know. Salt Lake City is sometimes it feels produced when it's not and not produced when it is. And so it's like, y'all, let this conversation go on too long. But yeah, we're like running into the corner and your only exit is through the room where he has to read the girl. That's the only exit you have off of It's a whole place. You don't get it. But like, these are the things I cannot think about. Some other things that I also cannot think about because I can't stop finding a way to include it in whatever conversation we're having.

58:51 Speaker 1: So and that's safety in this voice, in this breath, it's hot, and the reason when they when they such. At one point, the commercial was coming up and said that she was gonna ask for a deep cleansing breath as a group, and I said, Gazelle says, just with the quickness did she get them in? I said, Now, this is why this show will never not be firing from all cylinders, even when they are not trying. Like I don't even have time and space to critique things like why this new girl is hosting a circle for everyone to have a come to Jesus with each other when I don't even know or remember your name.

59:30 Speaker 3: In this moment, I'm calling you an angel, That's what it is. But like, how do I feel safe talking to you and your sound healer?

59:38 Speaker 1: I don't know you? But okay, but the girl's clocked in, so it seemed like it didn't really matter. But like I just I couldn't even critique the things I want to critique when I was watching it, which is why we you know, we reflect and we come together and moment self communion like these. But it was just it was so good. Again, this is like episode three or something in two two two two that all that happened in one.

1:00:04 Speaker 3: Holy shit, you're right, yeah, yeah, so we had two where like Sunday will be three.

1:00:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was episode two.

1:00:11 Speaker 3: I will say, crazy, I'm with Wendy. You have like five minutes on a sound bath with me, especially especially if I'm in a group.

1:00:19 Speaker 1: Event, like I'm not technically.

1:00:23 Speaker 3: Yeah no, you're correct that you took the word on my mouth like like in a working like group events. I will give you like two to three minutes of a soundbath, five tops. Even in Atlanta when they did that healing sound bath, the girls.

1:00:37 Speaker 2: Started arguing halfway through.

1:00:38 Speaker 3: Okay, because I'm not, but please don't. I feel like Angel might be a little too whooped de woo, like a little too connect with nature to be a part, not to be a part of this group.

1:00:49 Speaker 2: But she needs to divorce herself from that a little bit when it comes to the.

1:00:54 Speaker 3: Group and hosting events in that space, because you guys are not here to respect spaces of silence.

1:01:00 Speaker 1: See. I think, yes, that's true. I think angels woo woo is her balance for being much less a girl's girl than she thinks. It kind of reminds me for those who remember of our girl Monique, who could get into it right. The baby was a healer, the baby love the baby girl. The doll baby was putting the oils. I mean, whether I agree or not. The doll baby was over here with the goat's milk and this that and the she had a podcast about please. The doll baby was in the holistic and could still read that ass and got in trouble for fighting on the show Ladies, but still offer the contract back.

1:01:45 Speaker 1: Had a binder Karita bitch, and we'll tell you about yourself and play with your hair. True. True. So I think that Angel, because I don't think Angel when she says she was a girl's girl in episode one, I was like, oh, and I one of the lovely ladies that have been on my show. I think it was Vanessa shout out to the reality recap. She was like, I don't think she's a girl's girl, and I was like, I think in this episode. I was like, oh, no, I gotta text Vanessa. I think she might have been right. It's pretty much because because of the situation of Kay an Angel interesting to me that that's your girl ride or die friend, at least for what we see in the scenes that we're seeing, but then in some backlog footage their friendship is so interesting to me because while I don't believe that we know that Kay didn't chin check her, it's interesting to me that Angel would have had to be chin checked.

1:02:43 Speaker 1: Look, why are you not sticking by your friend, especially so early, because, like you just this is episode two. I'm really weary.

1:02:53 Speaker 3: Of a friend of or new housewife that comes on on the strength of someone else.

1:02:58 Speaker 1: You just can and already you ready to be like, well, I'm playing the field. You know I'm not gonna belong to you.

1:03:06 Speaker 2: Can I tell you why?

1:03:07 Speaker 3: I look at like my eye was side eyeing Angel like I agree with what you're saying. Yeah, it's not necessarily her being like, oh, I'm playing the field blah blah blah. It's when she said that to Kay because when we first met Angel in episode one, when her and Kay were walking went for that walk, yeah right, Kay was telling her about her.

1:03:30 Speaker 2: Issues with Wendy, her issues with Wendy yes.

1:03:33 Speaker 3: And then to the camera, Angel was like, I'm still getting to know everybody, and she is like kind of shady about oh yeah, Wendy and I went to whatever the college I was at different times x y Z YadA YadA. But then she tells the camera I am open to everybody. That's when I was like, hmm, because for me, I think you can say to your friend, okay, but did you talk to her, did you reach out to her like don't you know? Oh her kids were sick? Like, don't understd to make that. I think that you can say that, But the fact that she said it after they already had talked about this one on one, you chose to say that in a group in front of everybody.

1:04:12 Speaker 2: That's why I was like, that.

1:04:13 Speaker 1: Was a choice.

1:04:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, That's why I was like I feel like we're moving backwards. I was like, because why did you not say that to her when it was just you two walking on the trail.

1:04:23 Speaker 1: Because she's not really trying to hold case exactly the accountability. She's fine with her doing what she's doing, and she just so wants the other ladies to know indirectly that she is not so loyal, that she is unreachable, that she can't change loyalties or something at some point. But the fact that if you have to introduce because y'all may not remember this, but a long time ago, real bravo always you know, and I know you wanna get me. She and Shaye once told us she's also a girl's girl.

1:04:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, and y'all know, I love it.

1:04:54 Speaker 1: I love tauruses, except may Ones and april ones are very different, just saying everyone's are in the bed. May Ones are like in a fight because they like to be social. They're closer to geminis and I don't like to be outside. I like to be in hereship. They're mainly parasocial and and other ones, but you know, a lot of investment. She once told us that she was also a girl's girl. She going to say people think, and she cried about it even really and girls, girl, well do you want to be my friend? Stussy Katie, Kristen, La La Rian, every girl like, why don't you want to be my friend?

1:05:31 Speaker 1: When someone tells you to camera?

1:05:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, most people think I'm a bitch, but I'm really a girl.

1:05:38 Speaker 1: Girl. It sounds like, baby, you're the opinion that differs. You're a the outlier. And in math, we teach math this year on third grade. I'm a math teacher. This year they departmentalized us and I'm really bad at math, but we're doing a great job. That out liar is the one that you don't include. Yeah, your opinion actually doesn't matter.

1:05:58 Speaker 3: I would like to speak to those the girlies that say you're a bitch up front, because it is giving you switch quick and that's kind of crazy.

1:06:07 Speaker 1: And then you're.

1:06:07 Speaker 3: Mad that Giselle said that, Kate said that she had to chin check you. You're not mad that I'm asking about the fact that you were. You chose to say it in front of everyone else. And the first one, yeah, the first contrary, and I called you.

1:06:21 Speaker 1: She was like, what did you ask about her kids? So you're admitting, you know the private information because we talked about it exactly. And yet so you're choosing now to be the moment of being critical of my decisions with that information that I entrusted you with and we had our one on one friendship time.

1:06:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my thing about it. That exactly, that was my thing about it.

1:06:39 Speaker 1: I said why, Yeah.

1:06:40 Speaker 3: I said, why you chose to say this now in front of everybody when me and you have already talked about this, right, That's what would have pissed me off. Now, it's not that I think that she's wrong Angela is I think her No?

1:06:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're made when you sat up.

1:06:55 Speaker 3: Because Okay, I can't hear about the NAACP lunch anymore.

1:06:58 Speaker 2: I can't hear about that.

1:06:59 Speaker 1: I told you it's a chop. If you have to admit defeat in the first line of battle, Okay, I'll give you that one. Give her the whole thing. Let's move on. Let's move on.

1:07:08 Speaker 3: Kay is not approaching this as somebody as a friend who actually wants to find resolution.

1:07:13 Speaker 2: It's giving that you.

1:07:14 Speaker 3: Want to have a proper storyline exactly, And you lost your main storyline, which was Greg because he's not coming anymore.

1:07:21 Speaker 1: No, and you should be. Can I just say we did some digging, we being me after Vanessa gave me some information about where K's thing is, because y'all know, I'm DMV based. He can to be born and bred. Love it here. Baltimore is my favorite city, even though my parents are Washingtonians all that jazz. I'm a BG County girl. Kay's shit is good. She is in an excellent location. Like I was shocked to find out how long standing, how busy they are. She's popping her and her business. Her condo is actually like you can end her it is.

1:08:00 Speaker 1: You can see where my mom's FNDO was, and actually she's right next to where MIA's original townhouse was, like the first one from years ago.

1:08:09 Speaker 3: Hold on because sorry pause, I am nosy, right, and I'm just curious and I like real estate. So something yesterday was like moved me to open up apartments and townhouses.

1:08:23 Speaker 1: And yeah in the Potomac.

1:08:25 Speaker 3: And I'm pretty sure I saw MIA's original townhouse because I was like.

1:08:30 Speaker 2: This looks like familiar.

1:08:33 Speaker 1: Please send it to me.

1:08:34 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure, I think believe because I y'all know, years ago, years ago, my mom is living her best life now she got remarried, but when she was in her single.

1:08:43 Speaker 1: Left my daddy. Days she was on the harbor in Baltimore, getting it, cutting it up, cutting the rug. I had to go to whole therapy for a year about why is my mama out there dancing in the street.

1:08:54 Speaker 3: I think this is like she's been living a life, She's got a live.

1:08:59 Speaker 1: So she moved her off to Baltimore to get the best out of her. She was like walking the piers, walk in the water. Loved it, loved it, loved it. So naturally you run into the people and the things. And that's why, you know. I was to tell people, like half of the cast lives in Baltimore. The other lives like beyond Virginia, like the city line, like more than I think ashes the closest. Yeah, And so I could see my mama's building from K's window, like the old building that is. I don't want to give away where she lives, but like, if you're for you to say that you moved into that by yourself, you're going to a living with that man.

1:09:35 Speaker 1: Because that house was not that great. I know where it was. It wasn't that great. This is such a flex that I don't even know while we're trying to entertain this man. I agree with your mama.

1:09:45 Speaker 2: She's that good for you.

1:09:47 Speaker 1: You can do better. He's not paying your bills. You're accomplished, smart and have a business. Why are we here? Why are we even talking about him?

1:09:59 Speaker 3: And I I hate this when it comes to black women, especially straight black women. I really hate it because she is so successful. But I've heard that too. I've heard that her stuff, her business is really good.

1:10:11 Speaker 2: Hoping I'm looking at and.

1:10:13 Speaker 1: Stuff like and this isn't I mean, like, location is not cheap. I used to get my nails done maybe like three or four blocks away from here with my mom, and my mom used to spend ducats on getting her nails done. It was so astronomically expensive to me that I couldn't justify going anymore, even if I wasn't paying for it, because I never was teaching. Oh wow, my mama was like, I like the experience, like the things, but it was like because of proximity to the water, two of the restaurants, like to of the things in real estate, it's hard to get.

1:10:43 Speaker 3: And Kenny got it. She's doing better than me, made lessa.

1:10:49 Speaker 1: But I seriously. I looked it up. I told him that we had stopped recording. I was like, well, this is everything Heaven wanted her thing to be. This God, Well, she offers it all. So I'm telling you she offers it. She's doing a good job.

1:11:05 Speaker 3: See that's what's crazy to me, coming out of her place.

1:11:11 Speaker 2: That is crazy, and I love to hear it. I love to hear it.

1:11:14 Speaker 3: But no, she wants to rain because she well she wants with like Greg, she wants to She's like, oh, I feel like I should have this because I have everything else, and she is to catch. Keana is beautiful, beautiful and like just every sense of the word.

1:11:30 Speaker 2: But this something tells me that like Keiana.

1:11:34 Speaker 3: Used to be like a fighter, and she used to be like the scrappy friend.

1:11:39 Speaker 1: Right, So I don't but men are not.

1:11:44 Speaker 3: Hard to come by, so sorry, Like you can find one better than Greg.

1:11:48 Speaker 1: He is not.

1:11:49 Speaker 3: Can I tell you something I had forgotten? I did raced Greg out of my mind, okay, and when he when they showed the flashback of his face, I.

1:11:57 Speaker 1: Was like, I forgot he didn't he looked. I say, there is no way he looked that bad. Last Yes, yes, there's no way. I too. I did the same thing. I sated when they showed the flashback of him in the car, I said, ooh, yeah, I think I feel that gave me a war, and.

1:12:14 Speaker 3: I felt terrible for thinking it, but I'm like, that is not what I remember I remember him looking. But I just thought it because she was a baddie that maybe he just looked like, you know, a five, which is what we are used to with these housewives and these bad girls.

1:12:27 Speaker 1: But no.

1:12:28 Speaker 3: But also I vaguely remember Keana telling us that she had dated NFL players before, and so it's also giving to me the read that I get on that is like, Okay, I've tried the wag life, the NFL player, the ballplayer life, and they just all play games, and it is okay. It's a fight to get in that wag life. It's you got you fighting like three or four other bitches at a time. And she I think she's the one that told the story that she was dating someone at the same time he was married or engaged her something like that.

1:13:01 Speaker 3: And no, was that, No, it wasn't Jazz Jazzy.

1:13:05 Speaker 2: We're seeing her back this year.

1:13:08 Speaker 1: Yes, I think she's getting married.

1:13:09 Speaker 3: But Kiana said that, Yeah, Kiana said that she had a situation with the NFL player as well, that he was dating somebody at the same time as her, and so I was, like, it all starts to make sense why she chose Greg's nerdy, mean ass. But like, uh and listen, sorry, ladies, some about the name Greg and doctor in front.

1:13:30 Speaker 1: Of it working.

1:13:32 Speaker 2: Don't do that.

1:13:33 Speaker 1: It's not working. It's not it's not good doctor. Oh god, there's so many of them. The only Greg I will ever love and respect is y'all know who it is. It's mister Greg leaks for all his faults and flaws rip you know all. It reminds me of and he's like him and Meani being in tandem all those years ago on reunions. You know, you know, hunk the horn on the ass b B let him know. Mm hm, God I miss them. If it's not that Greg, I don't want it. I really don't like, I really don't. I want to talk about whether or not you think that Stacy ever had any intentions of actually leaving this man, even though yes, y'all found the divorce papers that were filed in December of twenty twenty four.

1:14:22 Speaker 1: Hmm.

1:14:24 Speaker 3: Okay, wait, what what December twenty twenty four, that's we're in twenty twenty five.

1:14:34 Speaker 1: Oh okay, I thought so. I thought that I was tripping. I thought I was tripping. I don't know.

1:14:41 Speaker 3: I truly, I don't know what Stacy intended upon. I have no clue. I cannot put my finger on her. I really can't.

1:14:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, the final decree was issued December sixteenth of twenty twenty four. They said their separation date started in Augus twenty twenty three. But yet Instill, your decree didn't finish.

1:15:08 Speaker 1: Let me tell you, it's not that hard. Let me tell you something. From these here places. You ad somebody yesterday and y'all sitting at a table today.

1:15:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, as somebody who is divorced, it's not hard to like backdate a divorce. I think I was supposed to have been separated for like six months or something when I.

1:15:30 Speaker 2: Filed for divorce.

1:15:31 Speaker 3: Was I legally separated for six months when I filed for divorce?

1:15:34 Speaker 1: No?

1:15:34 Speaker 2: I was not. Mentally I was. So that's what I put in.

1:15:38 Speaker 1: My mom, who has a.

1:15:39 Speaker 3: Couple divorces under her belt, she was like, girl, put the date in which you mentally checked out?

1:15:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's what they put. But it is very clear through both the Google's AI, the TMC, the reality all the things that TMO filed for divorce in early December. So it's giving. You got called out the reunion and you knew there was going to ask that ass later. So you want it, you can.

1:16:12 Speaker 3: My god, my mama did the same thing, which even though her and my daddy never liked each other like that, towards the end of their marriage. Maryland had an absolute divorced situation at the time where you wanted if you wanted it, you had to say a whole year, no tal no touching, nothing, And so my mama said it, and I had to be the witness.

1:16:32 Speaker 1: Please don't make your kids be a witness. And I was like to make you do that. No more in Maryland at least, but I had to be a witness in court like whatever she say. I wasn't keeping track. But it's been a minute since my dad's been allowed in the house. That's true.

1:16:46 Speaker 2: Let me tell you, Maryland is not playing with nobody. Oh yeah, so I.

1:16:49 Speaker 3: Never thought that until y'all told me on the threads of them that y'all wouldn't breathe different, and I'm like, honey, that's crazy because Maryland is also the state where like no one ever gets stopped for their tags being expired. Like I was definitely behind somebody the day with day tags at like twenty twenty three.

1:17:08 Speaker 1: I was shook. They're always Maryland places because Virginia. That's not the case. Virginia.

1:17:14 Speaker 2: They will yeah you go.

1:17:16 Speaker 1: And now it's worse because you know, Virginia's facilities are being used for nefarious things and purposes like disappearing human beings. So now anytime so on not the traffic traffic stop and gets pulled over, it's now not one, not two, but sometimes three cop cars four cops that descend on your car. And it could be for what did my friends tell me? It was two days ago. Her lights weren't on at nine pm And that's just because she got an old Volkswagen and it just take a minute, you gotta tell it.

1:17:47 Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1:17:49 Speaker 1: Do or dashing for so long she forgotten to turn them on because it was light when she was doing it. So yeah, for you know, descend upon you don't even know how many are there to they're they're looking through the things yet that's everybody now, that's every stop. It's hard out here in the DMV. That's why I'm surprised they had time for Wendy. And let me tell you why they had time for Wendy because ain't nobody out there.

1:18:10 Speaker 2: That's what everybody keeps saying when I.

1:18:12 Speaker 1: Found out, Like y'all can listen to the episode I did with the emergency episode with and that's the where I went into the depths of what Westminster, Carroll County is. I'm here all of that.

1:18:22 Speaker 3: I won't you know, bore you now, but let me tell you if there was a barglar read.

1:18:29 Speaker 1: Susanne down like one or two gates, what a call?

1:18:35 Speaker 2: What interesting?

1:18:36 Speaker 3: Just well, see, so I live in tat Lewis, and I'm not gonnae I just bought a new car.

1:18:42 Speaker 2: You want to know where you're on my platur from. I'm the old one.

1:18:46 Speaker 4: Twenty twenty three, No twenty two, no twenty one, no twenty.

1:18:58 Speaker 3: Twe that's not your fault the world, okay, So yes, it was my plates where my plates were five years expired my and to be fair, I had paid with my personal property taxes, so like I kept paying them but getting your tags, like reinstated in the city of Saint Louis because you have Saint Louis City in Saint Louis County.

1:19:19 Speaker 2: It's a pain in the ass. It is a pain in the ass.

1:19:22 Speaker 3: And at any given time they are going to send you Like when I was registering my new vehicle, I left the post office and went between the post office and city Hall three different times. Yeah, so that's why people will just be like and they will not they'll not pull you over, like they don't give a fuck. That's also the thing about Yeah, sovs and Maryland are overwhelming.

1:19:44 Speaker 2: Like yeah.

1:19:45 Speaker 1: Also, I think other people in other places call it the DMV. That means the yes here called the MVA. I don't know why if you've lasted me out all the time. It's so strange, but yes, it's the NVA here. But the on any given day, like I don't do any of that stuff until the summer when I'm a teacher because I have to be there, be prepared to make an appointment. Kiosk go to thing nine hours. They are very unhappy.

1:20:12 Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

1:20:13 Speaker 1: It's a whole ordeal. Again, why if you if they engage you in a criminal process, maybe it's because they got time or you called for it.

1:20:22 Speaker 3: You're right, and it's like same thing in Saint Louis. I got robbed a year ago. It's not a gas station.

1:20:28 Speaker 2: I'm still I'm thinking some fun.

1:20:30 Speaker 3: I'm still waiting for the police to call me to come to take the report.

1:20:36 Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, yeah.

1:20:39 Speaker 3: Still waiting for them to give me a call and take the report on my.

1:20:45 Speaker 2: Never got to file the police report.

1:20:47 Speaker 1: M hmm, all you gotta do. But over here they're like that lady filed a police report in Westminster, talking about they robbed her or how much stuff everything. It just it just it wasn't making sense. It wasn't clocked. And so yeah, y'all can go ahead and listen to that one. But let me tell you now, Wendy was she was so primed to have such a great season. This was it seems like she was recruiting in a positive place. I mean, I even got giggles and joy. But like had a shock moment when Stacy and her sat down at the house.

1:21:18 Speaker 1: Stacey had a terrible performance. That lady was, she's not doing well. I'm like, do you regret I don't know what decision you regret, Like, do you regret taking a divorce? Was it because your husband did not want to fail them and you did not want to get fired or double all sudden a lah half of the New York Friends of It happens a lot. I get it. Yeah, but did it just matter to you that you be on the house of a Potoma that much? Because yet again I want to tell people the man is he's fine, he has money.

1:21:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was living a fine life.

1:21:55 Speaker 3: You know what is interesting to me about Potomac and like getting people on that show.

1:22:01 Speaker 2: Do you know who Cammy Crawford is?

1:22:03 Speaker 1: Yes? I do. I love her very much. Me too, allow pretty girl from Pretty County Me.

1:22:09 Speaker 2: I love her too.

1:22:10 Speaker 3: She has said that they have asked her, they have reached out to not only her mom but her about being a real housewife of Potomac, and I am so confused, And She's like, we turn them down each and every time. I am so confused by that because I'm like, what, like, you cannot You're not gonna be able to pay Cammy Crawford like first season housewife money.

1:22:37 Speaker 2: I don't think you know what I mean. She's been on TV, like on reality TV, and.

1:22:43 Speaker 1: She's like the most photographed or most covered sports illustrated model now like every Yeah, she's like surpassed Chrissy Chiegan.

1:22:50 Speaker 3: M m yeah exactly, most exactly. And she's like, and my mom's just like not dealing with that. She's like, we're not dealing with it. So I'm like, what is it? Like, why do you y'all have a hard time casting.

1:23:02 Speaker 2: For this show? Why does nobody want to be on the show.

1:23:04 Speaker 3: I know why, I know why, but I want to hear people say it.

1:23:09 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. When the show first came out, I think I was. I was working at a restaurant. I was in college. I was working at a before the show was actually announced and they were testing it. It was there was supposed to be. They have tried so many shows in the BMV, specifically in PG County. That's where they want it to be. And I noticed that because the Peacock descriptions says one of the most affluent, like African American neighborhoods, and that's untrue for Potomac. Yeah, that's not true at all.

1:23:39 Speaker 1: Potomac is actually quite I would say it's not diverse. It's just that it's so small, like nobody actually lives there. I've talked about this before, Like there's not really much there. It really was just a city because over the senators and them needed to live somewhere close to over the river, and it needed to be closer to the highways so they can get in and out of the city. But no one wants to live in this city because you can't park a motor cade. That's really it. Yeah, so you live in Potomac or and then and then it became like Montgomery County, so like it's like Potomac Village sometimes, which is like not Potomac Like it's like if anybody's ever had like a like a like a like the England and like the New England.

1:24:18 Speaker 1: It's like I guess, so it's like the outskirts of but like the overflow of a different zip code. But when I was in high school and when I was in college working at the restaurant, we were one of the only restaurants to let them film there. Most would not, even when it was in test ground where and then a lot of I had some friends, not a lot, but I had at least three friends of in high school a little younger than me whose moms were asked to be on the first thing of this first season of Potomac. I went to a really notable and affluent high school that produces a ton of athletes in Olympic They have a Hall of Fame for high schoolers, which is kind of crazy to me.

1:25:03 Speaker 1: I read books and I did a great job at it and in my life, so I had a good time. Didn't get my parents' money's worth as much as everybody else did. But like me and Stefan Days went to the same high school. We were there at the exact same time. He was in my psych class. He's an asshole and you can quote me on that, but yeah we can. We can talk after he's something. And I'm not shocked at the life that he's in right now at all. We saw this coming. Shout out to the friends of mine who I do know though, of the girlies even in high school, that was one a piece on him that they could not quit even then.

1:25:38 Speaker 1: So the bird behavior from Chief CARDI Bird herself right now, I am not shocked by because I have seen girls who are doing very well now mentally financially, you know, smart toally then who I was like, I don't understand Mia gay really didn't understand. I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. And they're like, you don't understand, I don't you're being weird, like this is he's not your What do you mean he doesn't talk to you outside of nine am on Wednesdays and we have a late start so that y'all can go, what are you talking about?

1:26:14 Speaker 1: What do you mean that that's still in You're gonna go what do you mean You're gonna leave me at the Starbucks? Are you kidding? He's a high school football I mean, granted he did move on, but most of them do. He wasn't even the only one from that class, like from his own graduating like high school class that went into the NFL that year. He was one of three. So yeah, the school is bananas. I mainly because in the DMV everyone maneuvers like its politics like or it is secretive and not in like an aesthetic Lisa barloway when we got okay, oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, A much shit died, So like it is not uncommon that there would be you know, students from far and wide suddenly having sponsorship of ginormous proportion to be at this school, even though they're from where Kay is at and I'm down here by where What's village is because I was not too far in Montgomber County and there are boys who were coming from all over the place to play there because they'll make it, and I mean they did, and so I think the only one who's still not playing he didn't.

1:27:31 Speaker 1: He did like one or two years in the NFL and then married like the best track runner ever in the world right now, like Sidney McLoughlin. I know that Labrone. I think his his name is Levrone. Also, I know who that is.

1:27:45 Speaker 3: Yes, I did a lot of work on my own just saying the boys should not do anything.

1:27:50 Speaker 1: But my point is this place, this area is there. Don't like they don't want the smoke that comes with housewives of people like us looking into the things because they have things. People who don't have things and want things don't mind on the show to get the things and wants the things.

1:28:09 Speaker 2: True, we need the things.

1:28:12 Speaker 1: She had done it all. She wanted to be an influencer, She wanted to be a baby. You know.

1:28:16 Speaker 3: You know what somebody pointed out as well, is that, like obviously we all know that Wendy is Nigerian. I don't pay attention to Wendy's mama a lot because.

1:28:27 Speaker 1: Have you seen her?

1:28:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just I don't I don't like to talk about people's mamas, but I.

1:28:36 Speaker 1: Will, but I don't like to.

1:28:38 Speaker 2: I don't like to.

1:28:40 Speaker 3: But somebody had pointed out that I guess last season her mom was like getting on her about how she hadn't given her any money or anything. And I was like, I do and they took her one for years and she was like, I don't get enough. I said, yeah, I'm confused. Yeah, I said the now, I still feel like I don't know.

1:29:03 Speaker 2: I just have a feeling I don't know anything.

1:29:06 Speaker 3: I have a feeling that there's more to come from this Wendy and Eddie's story and the fact that we haven't heard anything from them directly. I said, there is something else afoot, something else is afoot, and something else is coming. I hope it works in Wendy's favor. Like I said before, well, no, no, no, I think her mama.

1:29:29 Speaker 2: Yeah or something like that.

1:29:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, whole situation. It may not.

1:29:33 Speaker 3: No, it's bad, but like I said, for Eddie should just take the fall for everything whatever happened.

1:29:38 Speaker 1: I mean, he should, but she was wearing the evidence and that's the crow.

1:29:41 Speaker 2: Yeah.

1:29:42 Speaker 1: Okay.

1:29:42 Speaker 3: Also, somebody, this is one of the TikTok girlyes, so I don't know. Somebody pointed out they were like, they're a lawyer. They were like, I don't know, but they were like, it's something else. Was something else happening with Wendy and Eddie? Like were they at one point separated? Because it makes no sense that two married people who just got off of vacation together emailed one another about items lost.

1:30:10 Speaker 1: Vanessa raised the great point when she asked me, why are we even talking on the phone. We lived together, supposedly, Well, that's why we're emailing. So that's always been my question because that don't make no sense to me, Like your options are slim, we're stupid criminals, we got sloppy, or we're so used to emailing each other that we don't or emailing period that we don't like y'alln't gotta tell you, like what's that? I'm just confused.

1:30:39 Speaker 3: But also so somebody on TikTok said that one thing that may work in our favor also, which I forgot about this as well. Wendy admitted that she doesn't know where how their mortgage is paid, what account it comes out of anything.

1:30:53 Speaker 1: On camera that that doesn't so help, Yeah, sosa her. So she won't get the full sentence, which is allegedly like three to five plus years perjure, and she's got a wop in sixteenth. They'll probably compile them to like three or four and she'll probably serve sometime. Eddie a lot more, which low Ki means is we's about to do numbers because this you got more street credit now than Rick ralson them. This is a good thing for we business, for the home business. I'm concerned, Yeah, the children. I'm concerned for the alleged citizenship and deportation situation in this administration.

1:31:36 Speaker 1: I am concerned.

1:31:37 Speaker 2: See I was looking into that too, and that I don't Eddie is fine.

1:31:43 Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about for Wendy Okay, because they say she somebody found today. I had heard that she wasn't that this was something to be concerned about, and some rumors. But someone found today a comment that she left a long time ago, was saying that she came and she was three, which you know, and lived here since she was three. But as we know currently means jack, yeah, wat shit if you are driving the speed limit and a toilet of memory and a nice neighborhood with your seat belt on. Okay, if they think they can get you, they can get you because I thought you're a criminal.

1:32:23 Speaker 1: Actually being apprehended does make me nervous, and we get into a Borga experience, I mean, Joe Judice experience, which I don't. This is the last thing. I mean, I can't. I can't stress enough how shocked I am about all this. Still I'm reading, I'm like aware of what's happening, and I'm still like, damn for real, Like it's me. I went to my local dispensary lately. That's okay. And in Maryland, okay, where happy Nie.

1:32:50 Speaker 3: I mean, it's not the best in like of the Maryland brands, but it does do well for being so new and so you It's a hard business to break into because all the other brands that are sold in all the marijuana that is sold in Maryland, because it's through the Department of pharmaceut it has to be grown and expected in the State of Maryland brands they have been around for however long, so for him to be so new and still be making waves and be like it's it's sold. I worked at a dispensary in the last summer.

1:33:22 Speaker 2: It's it's like.

1:33:24 Speaker 1: People do get it. It's especially for people who are not like big smokers. If you come and like visit Maryland, I probably would recommend to some people to get a happy man, some happy eddie, some different certain kinds of products. I might work it into my product, like you know, you know, suggestions, so that that's like really something. But it's like you had they had such a nice life that it really makes me like question and concerned, like what this was all for? Like yeah, my questions are like why are y'all emailing each other?

1:33:57 Speaker 1: But also how you go on Jamaica vacation and the cop like we didn't think this at all. So I really, really, I really need someone to tell me that y'all either got sloppy or your first attempt you went too high and flew too close to the sun. But I'm like, if this is your first time, why would you.

1:34:13 Speaker 3: Claim why did you why did y'all not call derry or allegedly or allegedly this is exactly what I said that I'm like The only thing that gave that one away that you know, God, a conspiracy theorist or a little you know like me.

1:34:34 Speaker 1: Like put the phone back. That was the only sign. Otherwise I would have been good. I would have been like, oh man, I'm sorry for the reading. Oh no, oh, And I know y'all still out there like well money and we still think that we believe, and I'm sure, and that's fine. I'm never gonna give this sun never. I'm telling y'all.

1:34:50 Speaker 3: I said this, even even PK sacrificed his own wife at the top.

1:34:57 Speaker 1: And keep her out of the loop, and you go this route. Yeah, you gotta learn the lot. That's what my coworker told me today when I was like, I've got something. She said, second, I tell my wife. She said, you don't tell her that you tell her this, And I said, put me on game. Since how long you've been married twenty three years? You gotta learn to lie the right lives, not the big lives, the right lies, the right lies. Yeah, listen, I'm complicated. The right lie. I'm just saying that it's not making sense.

1:35:26 Speaker 1: And I think the vulnerability and the things that the struggle that Wendy and Eddie put forth on. This season is going to actually be even harder to digest because we know what's going on in real time. They keep liking to make us think and believe it's probably gonna be something along the lines of them not being super close or careful at the moment. But then I'm like, then why is he Robin all stay in them for you? Okay, I don't know. We could ruminate about this forever. Yeah, like Wendy's. If we didn't have this going on in tandem, I really could see her having a very good season.

1:36:00 Speaker 1: Her and Giselle.

1:36:01 Speaker 3: This is not necessarily together, but just in general, Giselle is another one cruising having this time, and I love it for her because she's.

1:36:10 Speaker 1: Always my comedic relief. In fact, that's usually the saving grace a lot of times when she's acting up and out the people, I'm like, ooh, but she's so funny funny right now, her just being funny as hell and just being like supportive of the girl he's reading each other and just reminding people when they say certain words like chin check and you know, reminded Stacey to take a mint before doing a cleansing breath before she gets up. That's pretty much all I can ask for her right now. Yeah, since she doesn't have a formidable opponent to give a frenemy vibe to my girl, Carrien, and she's gonna be back.

1:36:44 Speaker 1: I'm waiting out for her. We're still having a good time, though, we are. You notice you don't know? You don't notice.

1:36:50 Speaker 3: Let me tell you what I'm excited for that we have gotten rid of a lot of whether I liked them or not, a lot of the players that.

1:36:56 Speaker 2: Were holding back.

1:36:58 Speaker 1: Yeah.

1:36:59 Speaker 3: So, like I understand that Robin and Jozell are best friends. I totally understand that it does not It does not help to have two best friends who refuse to argue on camera together and refuse to have that like you cannot both be housewives and have that right. And then they enable each other in a way that if you have a problem with one of them, you're always kind of going to have a problem with another one.

1:37:21 Speaker 2: I like the best friendships.

1:37:22 Speaker 3: I don't want to see the best friendships break up, especially when their real life friendships and they say right, and they say they actually bicker all the time or check each other all the time behind the scenes. That doesn't do anything for this show, right, So I'm glad that we've ridded that. As much as I do enjoy Candace Candid, there was no moving forward with Candace and Gazel, and there shouldn't have been, right, I completely understand there should not have been, So Candace being gone, we can move the storyline along now.

1:37:52 Speaker 2: And whether or not I.

1:37:53 Speaker 3: Personally, like generally care for Jazelle, like you said, she is some comedic relief and I appreciate that I can see her in a different sense now when it's not getting taken to such a nasty point.

1:38:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, that can totally because.

1:38:08 Speaker 3: And to be fair, when Giselle first brought the Chris stuff to Candae at that dance studio or whatever, she should have stuck along the lines of that. She should have stuck a lot because how she first explained it was I was just a little uncomfortable.

1:38:25 Speaker 2: I just didn't I wanted to explain that to you. That was fair.

1:38:30 Speaker 3: Where it ended where it began, and where it ended was too completely completely different stories and too completely different beasts. Yeah, she just said, I wanted to be honest with you because I know what it's like to be in that position. And we were friends, and you know, I just didn't want things to be confused, and I just personally got that way.

1:38:53 Speaker 2: I think it could be salvage. But by the time we got to the end of that.

1:38:56 Speaker 3: Season and Chris was apparently grabbing an ass and da da da da, when we had footage of him all the way across the room.

1:39:03 Speaker 1: No, no, she does it. She goes too far when she's over embellishing, embellishing, excuse me, all thank you. And so I just I like Giselle in this space when she doesn't have a ride or die with her that is going to do her because I don't honestly, and I think it's better this way. Robin had to be sacrificed because Gazelle is good for and on the show. But there's no positive way that their friendship can sustain on the show and the show be good for them. It's just not gonna happen. And the last thing I wanted to say about why it's super hard for people to get castled on the show is also because we're a reputation based people.

1:39:45 Speaker 1: Everybody here who does who is of affluence, who has done something, also has something tied to it that they're super proud of. But I teach these kinds of kids. I teach some kids who the former outside of DC are the same neighborhoods, and a few of them didn't live in DC. That's just the way we move here. But specifically, reputation is so important. I would say, such a large portion of people, everybody I knew what I grew up with, especially in PG County, such a large portion works for the federal government.

1:40:22 Speaker 1: Nobody's messing up pensions to fight with Jazil. True, nobody listing up what they got going on to fight with Jazil. They're having a nice before of current, they were having a nice time living their private owned business life. This is the place where businesses flourished Northern Virginia. I believe like, if your headquarters is here, you don't have to pay like state taxes or some kind of taxes. So that's why Amazon wanted to be here. That's why Audi is headquartered in Northern Virginia.

1:40:51 Speaker 3: And her husband, Stacy's husband is one of the vice presidents of US. Oh, that's why she's getting that custom made OUTI she's an AUDI girl.

1:41:00 Speaker 1: That's why I was shit shocked and confused that she was going to be on this show because I know that husband. I'm like, don't I asked my wife said don't you? Because my wife is a chiropractor in a northern Virginia, a very part of Northern Virginia and engineers of the all the cars are here in Northern Virginia and then they go live in Maryland and they work in DC. It's like the thing. And she was like, don't we know this person? And I'm like, I know, you said don't.

1:41:28 Speaker 3: Isn't they how I passed the AUDI headquarters every day like on the way to on the way to work, like.

1:41:32 Speaker 1: I've got it all the time. So it's it's like, it was interesting to me what you're willing to sacrifice to be on this show. And Stacey was willing to sacrifice a ton and wows really interesting to me because what I also know is we don't want to be the mess, but we all watched the mess and we all know each other. So that girl was what she not in school? Was she not going to any summer programs? Any ext you keeping her in the house? How does she not know? Because let me tell you something about the teachers that I work with, the professionals that I work with, the moms who come from high powered jobs, who come to the range or the lawn where the kids dismissed to check chat with me about housewives and mess from around the neighborhoods and the tea.

1:42:19 Speaker 1: Please, somebody would have asked that baby, so, who made breakfast for you this morning? Was it mommy or daddy or both? And y'all would have gotten the information. There's enough of us D and v r's out here anyway, like there's a few of us. Please, we're so reputation based and I'm just like, and that's why it's so weird to me.

1:42:40 Speaker 3: This Stacy now has this new voice, this for now. The husband wants to film.

1:42:44 Speaker 1: He looks totally different than his profile on LinkedIn and the audi website. Uh huh. He got a glow up for the camera, Yes he did. He got a little fade. He looking Chuck Bassie. Yes, that's not his look. Yes, he got cutes. I don't know what she did. Maybe she threw it back in an extra way, like you need to be on the season with me or I lose it. And if I lose it, I'm taking your money with me. And he was probably like, all right, let's go to the Thai restaurant and film, let's go sit down.

1:43:15 Speaker 3: I'm gonna send you a I am.

1:43:19 Speaker 1: I am gooped and gagged, yeah.

1:43:22 Speaker 2: Because I was like, oh, he's not ugly, He's not.

1:43:26 Speaker 1: He just don't look like that all the time. He does when he cleans up. I said, oh, he cleaned up nice, he cleaned up nice. I'll send you. I'll send I'll send it to you.

1:43:35 Speaker 3: Yes, well, so you can be like, Okay, I see it, but wow, we're TV now, we are on TV as.

1:43:47 Speaker 1: I'm like, you are off, crazy person, what diabolical girl. You were in the trenches with us just last season and you need to be in it again. To defend the fact that Gazelle said you will come up here with Stacey Stacy and yeah, did Jamia did. So I don't know Stacey, it's given. It's so funny because she's like, I just don't like a liar, which I'll give her, yeah for Sun And it's only because she's like, I need somebody that I can because Ashy's never been upright about her divorce and so she needed hello, BOTTI to level that you feel for her and I'm glad now that Stacey made it easy as hell.

1:44:29 Speaker 3: The fact that she's trying to play Ashley Darby divorce detective is crazy, right crazy?

1:44:35 Speaker 1: But baby, what's the website? Because I looked up yours on that same website and I didn't see it a minute ago either last year, like just six seven months ago. But also we know now why you couldn't have seen it. The decree was in December. It's October, y'all.

1:44:49 Speaker 3: Ashley literally came on national television and told her she had a Kochie craving for Michael. I don't want to hear she need Okay, I'm just like you do. Yeah, sure, ash Or was a gay and I'm like you went from gay to that. But listen, I would be here even longer if I got into Ashley Darby and all the things that she needs to unpack.

1:45:15 Speaker 1: But if she's going to hostas into the carpet, I'll take it for this moment because I got a lot of questions for that girl, and we only have this season to ask for Because y'all know the reunion is going to be about seventy one percent. What are we doing about Wendy? Now we have criminals on this show like it's going down the Real Housewives of the Penitentiary that's the new pee, like it's I'm watching though I'm seated. In fact, I just finished the last episode with a snack, and I highly recommend y'all do the same, like if you're not sitting down with your snap on potna AsSalt like now.

1:45:49 Speaker 1: It took the time to have them lined up because they're performing, They're firing from all cylinders and you can't get enough of them. We can't stop talking about him. So hey, I can't wait to see what happens next and have even more and bigger opinions that will definitely change as the time goes on, because one of them who kissed me off and someone it does fiss me off will surprise me and I can't wait after that. I'm looking forward to those evolutions, those growth And thank y'all, bravo for just doing what you're doing right now.

1:46:17 Speaker 1: This is helpful, this is good other things. So I like to end my show with us while asking people outside of the reality A Real Housewives, what else are you watching? What's another thing that's giving you joy that you are watching documentaries, movies, other shows anything that you're like when I'm not with the girls in the snow yelling, I'm here.

1:46:37 Speaker 3: So I just started Me and Megan just started the Murder Murdoch. Yeah, it came out yesterday or the day before. It came out this week.

1:46:47 Speaker 2: I know that much.

1:46:48 Speaker 1: Okay, So the first three episodes are out.

1:46:50 Speaker 3: We breathed through those yesterday watching that, watching Love is Blind, and then I'm actually rewatching Stranger Things. I'm a huge Stranger Things fan, and the last season comes out next month, so I'm doing a rewatch.

1:47:03 Speaker 1: Get ready, Okay, so y'all know where to go? That means y'all know where to go for the things? Can you tell people where they can find you? Listen to your podcast, watch your recaps, because I definitely watched it today to refresh my memory on what I watched two days ago.

1:47:20 Speaker 3: So oh god, there's so much. So my YouTube channel, my personal instagram is, and my TikTok is who asks l Zella's se l e. My podcast instagram is who asked Me podcasts, and then the podcast is who Asked Me? And that's available on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, all of the things, and you can find me everywhere.

1:47:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, and no, seriously do that. And let me say, I just want to plug I'm on threads more because the girlies on threads make me laugh, giggle and say the thing like I'm looking for the exact thing that I wanted to say, and let me tell you right now they'll be saying it. So that's why I am on threads when you're one of the few that I'm like, exactly, that's what I'm That's that's it. Like I go to look, it's the new Twitter for me. If y'all are trying to lie me too and watch it is the best place to do it.

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1:48:40 Speaker 1: If it happens, it happens, if it doesn't, I'll say anybody the end of that year. Either way, you know again, goal posts can change. I will not. Thank y'all for listening, Love you so much. Take care of yourselves and at the very least, don't hurt nobody. Don't come in, no crimes, especially if you have surveillance cameras outside. Uh yeah, he's just not a good idea. Something my advice to you if you're going to do the things, take care of yourselves. Guys, and bye mm hm