Diving in RHOSLC & RHOP w/Tom (@thetomhamlett)

0:00 Speaker 1: Sounds strugging.

0:09 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologists out there. It is your girl Moni, and you are in the mix with MANI.

0:18 Speaker 3: What is up, y'all? It is hell. We're in the thick of it.

0:22 Speaker 2: It's fall. The vortex is happening in Bravo.

0:26 Speaker 3: Bravo.

0:26 Speaker 2: Con is slowly approaching. All the things are about to premiere. Love is Blind is over all the selling sunsets are coming back, like this is the time for TV. It's cold outside, so I'm inside and I'm watching shit and y'all are too. And when that happens, we got a lot to talk about. Like we're here, this is our Housewives episode. I have the best, most hilarious, the funnest and co host to talk all things Housewives, Salt Lake City and Potomac with me. I have Tom Hamlet here, who is the host of the dumps to Dive podcast, and I being a dumpster diva.

1:02 Speaker 2: I'm very excited that he is here. Hi, Tom, thank you for being here today.

1:06 Speaker 3: How are you.

1:07 Speaker 1: Doing great money? Thanks for having me back. It's been a minute, Yes it has.

1:11 Speaker 2: Listen, y'all. He's got his Renaissance World tour. Hat I should have wore my Cowboy Carter hat. I just I just took it off to walk my dog, so I.

1:18 Speaker 3: Should have wore mine. We could have been matching.

1:20 Speaker 2: But like, the vibes are good, the vibes are here. Beyonce is with us.

1:25 Speaker 1: My entire wardrobe is Beyonce Tour merch No, but for.

1:29 Speaker 2: Real, do you know how many times I were like the Alien Superstar shirts probably.

1:32 Speaker 1: A look that I have. That one I also have. I got the I'm Crazy.

1:35 Speaker 3: I gotial course I got.

1:37 Speaker 1: I got the special edition Destiny's Child. Wont that they dropped after the Atlanta show with Us Child.

1:43 Speaker 2: I send people to the Atlanta show, the pop up because it opened like the day before the and they were like, I'm not going to the concert anymore. I said, well, I need you to get in that line. It opens at ten. Here's what I want. And I send people and they sent it to me and I covered the FedEx calls, like yes.

1:57 Speaker 1: The one I didn't get that I wish I had was the the New York City special one where she's smoking. She like is lighting the cigarette off of the satue of Liberty.

2:06 Speaker 2: It's pretty much yeah, yeah, I really that one I was like damn it, but I had to limit myself. But at the same time, when she was on tour, we didn't know what shirts were gonna be at what states and cities, and then every time I was like, I want that one, but let me hold out. I'm gonna hold out for Atlanta and then Houston would be like cute as fuck. So I know, you know, with Beyonce, you never know, y'all, you really never know. And this is my biweekly reminder. Put y'all's cullings away now, because y'all know what I believe.

2:33 Speaker 2: My theory is that she's coming in twenty twenty six. Y'all keep telling me he's gonna be twenty twenty seven.

2:39 Speaker 3: I'm here to.

2:39 Speaker 1: Tell you will at least have music in twenty twenty six. I don't know, but the second that another tour will be in twenty twenty six, so I think we'll definitely have music.

2:48 Speaker 2: I know we'll have music, But usually even with music, something for me.

2:51 Speaker 3: To purchase comes before during a record. Yeah, when you.

2:56 Speaker 2: Think that's it, as soon as you buy that vinyl and that tour book or that you know, lighter that don't really work.

3:02 Speaker 3: Any of those things that a tour.

3:04 Speaker 1: Now, see, we don't talk about the thing have faulty. A lot of the stuff is we just we just keep it moving.

3:10 Speaker 2: But also maybe I got three I still got three lighters because the problem was me.

3:14 Speaker 3: Maybe it was me. Maybe it was me. And now that it's not me, they all know what they don't get me.

3:19 Speaker 1: Do you remember the Renaissance boxes, like before when it came out, you picked a box, I have one. Well in those boxes, all there was was a T shirt and a CD. Those T shirts, I mean I still wear mind everyone's. But y'all those T shirts were fully like fruit of the loom.

3:39 Speaker 3: Yeah they weren't.

3:41 Speaker 1: She's like no Target collection. Like it's like, this is the real.

3:45 Speaker 2: T shirts are when you've already spent your three thousand dollars to come get this shirt and stand in lining. That's where you're gonna get that good shirt. Okay, but like listen, if whatever it takes, those are the micro joy or macro Joys that I have. Right now, it's counting down the day is until Beyonce. Like how many Housewives seasons are going to go by before Beyonce?

4:06 Speaker 1: We have quite a few.

4:07 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Yeah, we'll probably have quite a few. You're right about it, well, then good. So then in the meantime, while we're hitting on Beyonce to bless us and just relieve, just personally relieve me from the hells of you know, being a working person in America in twenty twenty five because it's hell on earth.

4:24 Speaker 1: And when that we're going to celebrate that that we're working.

4:29 Speaker 2: Okay, because listen, really not shout out to the government federal employees.

4:34 Speaker 3: My entire family are all federal employees.

4:36 Speaker 1: So they're all like, shit, so sorry money.

4:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, either we're not working and it's a quote unquote paid stress vacation of like when will we ever see money again, or their spouses and partners are essential and they're not being paid.

4:49 Speaker 3: It's still going to work.

4:50 Speaker 2: Now, that's where you would have me fucked up, because I I'm very closely tied to my insurance extrinsic rewards for why I do all the same.

4:58 Speaker 1: That's why we all do what we do. But I can't believe all of those goddesses that go and work at TSA with the not taking a paycheck, not dealing with the maga monsters who roll up in TSA with with their with their liquids not all on the right size, with water and their water bottle with their maga hat on backwards, and they're screaming about not being able to take their shoes off and they don't. They're not collecting pay for that. It makes me feel crazy.

5:29 Speaker 2: I would never I can't. I would be a correct how y'all are not crashing y'all are amazing individuals. I will crash out, I really would, because I'm not someone who does well without the luxuries and the comforts of like my.

5:41 Speaker 3: Normal day to day like things that I from.

5:44 Speaker 2: The experience, like I'm I guess I'm as bad as Mary. I thought I wasn't, but I'm as bad as Mary. Like on so leg Look, I got provisions, I have provisions I need and not having a paycheck. But what really stress me out because listen, let's get into Salt Lake City because I'm to be reminded, where do you fall on the baby gorgeous spectrum?

6:10 Speaker 3: Like on the Lea side.

6:11 Speaker 1: We had some disagreements here, I know, and I'm not. Yeah, I'm not a baby gorgeous, but I am not a Bravo fan. And I encourage everyone to listen to me if you are if you need some guidance here, I encourage all of our Bravo family to kind of take this note. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they're not necessary for the show. Like we don't need to be witch hunting people off of shows. There are some people we should witch hunt off of a show because they provide nothing and are bad people, like like Gretchen.

6:44 Speaker 1: Gretchen can get her ass.

6:45 Speaker 3: Off is not the answer. Vicki is not Heather getting off, it's getting.

6:51 Speaker 1: Off right right, but Vicky. But Vicky, in my opinion, like could have always existed on the show even though she's a monster, just because she's always watchable and creates good content. And I don't like her as a person, but like I think she's a so I don't really vibe with Lisa, but you know, I do find her necessary. But we wouldn't have a lot of the drama we're having right now without her. But I think where I struggle with her is her inability to like be self reflective, Like she is so stuck she can't receive any feedback from these ladies.

7:25 Speaker 1: Like I thought how the was being pretty generous with her when she was like, you're being really mean, Like you have to acknowledge that.

7:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, She's like, if Angie k is mean and going below the belt, so are you? Because you did it's more And she's like, what do you mean?

7:38 Speaker 3: I never said anything mean to Angie? What are you talking about?

7:40 Speaker 1: Literally she walked into that place and was like, it was like, I can't wait to be on a yacht. I'm sure Angie's gonna be excited. It's her first time being on a yacht. That poor ass bitch.

7:49 Speaker 3: And look, I say, strong, start, awful, finish. It was hard. Lisa is my you know.

7:57 Speaker 2: I shout out to Vanessa from the Bravo recap because I guess her and Lisa share similar birthday vibes, and she's like, one thing about us is that we're incredibly non self aware.

8:09 Speaker 3: I said, now, that is what.

8:10 Speaker 1: Is her sign. I think she's a Sagittarius therist cirl. I'm a sagittariust. That's the problem that.

8:17 Speaker 3: I can't I call.

8:20 Speaker 2: Here's the thing I have always called sagittarists sagitt terrorists.

8:25 Speaker 3: Because they can be Lisa Barlowe's right here. I am like, I love her.

8:30 Speaker 1: I don't know, but Sagittarius are very charismatic and they're very like they pull people in, but then they're well I balance, so I'm a double sage, which is scarce you. But then my third kind of balances me. I'm a cancer, so I'm I'm very The way my sign, my my map ball kind of pans out is that like I'm front facing, very like charismatic and like strong willed, but inside I'm actually like very up and crying and like,

9:03 Speaker 1: but people don't know that I'm like an emotional person because my outside is just like I'm a crazy I'm a crazy type a person.

9:10 Speaker 3: But now we.

9:13 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the core issue here is that we're both too similar. We can't exist.

9:17 Speaker 2: Say let me tell you though, because I'm a tourist. I'm a double tourist, and let me.

9:20 Speaker 1: Tell you there are like April.

9:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm an April tourist, and I do think there is a difference between April toruses and May Tauruses, because a may Taurus is Shina is Candy Burrists is an April tourist is Kalani and I, in fact, we have the same birthday, so like we do, only the amount we need to to self sustain the luxuries that we want and have, but do too much and be too like and lack self awareness. We would never we're like double down and the realistic of it all, which is also but we but we also like we can clock people so well, So Lee, you just gotta accept her.

10:02 Speaker 2: Oh, she's never gonna get it. This is the least self aware woman in the room. Okay, And so with that, you know, I'm just like, great, that's where she's at. I will never be friends with this girl. I could never trust her with my secret. She will tell on them.

10:14 Speaker 1: But I might have a you.

10:16 Speaker 2: Gotta know what your friends are for and to go to brunch and have a key key over some truffle fries and free tequila and talk about Angie.

10:25 Speaker 3: But I don't have to say nothing.

10:26 Speaker 2: Sort maybe I don't know, but accepting criticism, she will never But I noticed that because I was gonna ask you, did you think that this latest episode, I'm hearing everyone say Lisa doesn't know how to be vulnerable, she doesn't know how to open up. The problem is that she's not opening up. Now, Here's what I saw, not with the other women this episode.

10:52 Speaker 3: No, and that would makes sense. She ates them right now.

10:55 Speaker 2: They're all coming at her right now in her mind, whether that is what's happening is you know, irrelevant to Lisa Barlowe. But at home she was like, hey, John, you know, the psychic told me that we have communication issues and that resonated with me. And he's like kind of like being a little like, you know, not communicative. And we get Lisa crying, like she's sobbing. In the confessional, she's talking, they're having a conversation about how they this is Lisa's vulnerability and that I translated as everything is falling on her shoulders, which means that any amount of legal trouble whatever that she's trussed about and endto she didn't necessarily know because what she was doing, because it is all falling on her.

11:39 Speaker 2: She is like, I'm running the businesses, I'm running the home, i am doing the thing. And though for the last few seasons she's been like I'm that bitch, I'm doing it. I'm I'm sun Dance, I'm Mommy of the Year, I'm making brands for my kids. We see that behind closed doors, it is not all just let's make money money money with the family it is I'm overworked, I'm stressed, or I'm doing a lot, and so when things fall to the waysider, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know that I don't know. But like I'm I'm just a girl.

12:12 Speaker 2: I saw Lisa.

12:14 Speaker 1: I'm just a girl.

12:15 Speaker 2: It's just a girl with you know, a fifteen inch bust down middle part and you know, some harsh some harsh vocals and a diacode with limit.

12:24 Speaker 3: But she's doing her best.

12:27 Speaker 2: I thought this was vulnerability from Lisa that I had not seen her express before, especially about her marriage. This is like a thing like her marriage, her finances or businesses. These are things that normally she keeps so close to the vest that this felt like real vulnerability from her. So my question is it enough?

12:50 Speaker 3: Was this enough? Is this the first step?

12:52 Speaker 2: Or are we still or some people still like, nah, it's not the same.

12:57 Speaker 1: Well, I think I think the deeper problem with her, though, is that she is I think half the reason she's crying is that she can't believe she's crying. She can't believe she's having to be vulnerable on camera. Like I think she's played the game for a couple of seasons, where she's been able to skirt around personal issues, she's been able to curate a lot of her front facing persona, and I feel like she's I think half of her breakdowns right now are like, oh my god, my strong business woman persona that I've been trying to keep as my character on this show is kind of fading away.

13:33 Speaker 1: So I do appreciate the vulnerability, but I still think we could go a little further. Like I think the John stuff, I think there's more stuff going on there. It feels that she fed him lines before that scene to be like, Okay, babe, we're going to talk about this, but we can't go We can't talk about all this we have to talk about just like very top, very highlight.

13:57 Speaker 2: We don't communicate. We can talk about that that's relatable. Well, so it's it's curated vulnerability, right.

14:03 Speaker 1: So yeah, which I mean, I guess you could argue that's all of these shows in general.

14:07 Speaker 2: That's bron Win sitting down with Todd. Because my thing was like, Okay, she's not being vulnerable with the other women, sure, but bron Win, but what does that mean when someone who is vulnerable with the other women be lying?

14:24 Speaker 3: Because that's essentially what happened last season she's being accused of.

14:28 Speaker 2: That's what we are accusing Stacy of over poso. Man, like you're being vulnerable, but it is a vulnerability if it's lies. But also Todd is obviously never gonna film with us again, so we're also only going to get any kind of marital you know, confrontation with the with those people at you know, Swig or the coffee shop or whatever restaurant that they're sitting down at that she's you know, parading her new outfit in. And I think that while Lisa is curating vulnerability and she's crying because she's like, I cant believe I have to do this to keep my job or to be a good housewife.

15:03 Speaker 2: Meredith never has to, you know, she's saying that in her head, like Meredith doesn't have to do this and she gets to rent a home and her husband gets to be in Ohio half the year and she gets to do whatever. But I have to, you know, face all the crimes and say and say that I didn't talk enough about my life. Whereas but like Bronn in same episode, Bronwin and her husband go from Hi, honey, and you see let's have a little dictate whatever to you just dismissed my feelings and I'm just very upseparate now and I'm just I can't believe he would say that to me.

15:33 Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, I'm sorry, I don't mean to do that, And why do you put yourself in a situation. I'm like, I am having its equally as hard of a time believing them, is what I'm saying.

15:42 Speaker 3: I'm having a hard.

15:43 Speaker 2: Time believing orally as well as not being curated because you're disappointed in one scene or hurt by something that he says. It's just a matter of fact. But at the end, you're you don't want to, like, you know, skip to the end. You may or may not go on the trip with all the other girlies because of some things here facing.

16:05 Speaker 1: She will always go on the trip. Let's be clear about she's gonna go on the trip.

16:09 Speaker 2: Your husband was like he was like reaming her out about even thinks I don't know what would be wrong with you if you want to go on that trip, like if your your funeral.

16:16 Speaker 3: Would be up to you.

16:17 Speaker 2: But you're putting it's a problem for homemaking like that doesn't fish you off as being a little harsh or disrespective. Didn't he say last year he was gonna work on talking to you crazy reckless like that?

16:28 Speaker 1: But I think he just he truly does not understand the purpose of the show.

16:37 Speaker 3: I don't understand. Why are you here?

16:38 Speaker 2: She's like, because you don't appreciate my Christmas Cariano numbers the way I need you to.

16:43 Speaker 3: Straight old man, you just don't.

16:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, she I really like I also, I also have I I am one person removed from bron when one of my partner's best friends was Braun a bridesmaid in Bronwin's wedding, and she knows Todd very well well. She so all I've ever heard about him was that he is like a joy to be around. This is cut to me watching the show being like, where's the joy?

17:16 Speaker 3: I didn't know he had joy fullness.

17:19 Speaker 1: I'm not going to defend him. I just it's I think that. So here's the problem. I bet you they've lived a very nice life together off camera, where he like takes care of things and he talks to her in a probably very normal way, but like he doesn't maybe respect all of the things that she wants to do. One of which being be a real housewife. And so then the cameras pick up and he's like starting to act like, well, what the hell is this? This is a mess. You're you're not acting like you usually do, your hang out.

17:50 Speaker 3: With people you don't usually hang out with.

17:52 Speaker 1: I don't really vibe with this. I don't really vibe with this house is version of you. And so he's kind of reacting authentically on camera to what he really feels like, and she doesn't and it comes across bad. But unfortunately, whatever you put on this show, even if it's a little fake, the world now sees it, and I think eventually it's just going to become your real reality, Like do you know what I mean? Like if this is how they're filming, if this is how they're behaving on camera with each other, and say it was never like that before the camera's picked up, right.

18:24 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, now I think it's going to this version is going to bleed into their relationship because it's all everyone's seen is like him act this way. That's gonna it has to get to her head that the world is watching him be an asshole on camera.

18:39 Speaker 2: It has to because my thing is, like I wonder what the long term gain is I don't think Broman is like duplicitous and like I'm here to I don't feel like we have a carry bread from Dallas so that I'm here to get divorced. I genuinely think that where this woman was beautiful, you know smart.

18:57 Speaker 1: I forgot about that woman. I was like Carrie Bread, Who the hell remember when.

19:01 Speaker 2: She like walked us around Thailand to like clip beads from other people's jewelry and was like five thousand dollars.

19:08 Speaker 3: It's so nice.

19:08 Speaker 1: She so cringe, Oh my god, what a bad house sold?

19:13 Speaker 3: What honestly.

19:16 Speaker 1: When she joined was on the show, you know, crumbled exactly.

19:21 Speaker 3: Doullas was a fever dream. But I think about it often.

19:24 Speaker 1: It's crazy.

19:25 Speaker 3: It's so crazy.

19:26 Speaker 2: But like, I don't think Bronmin is like here to get the forced or anything. I even think she might really like slash love Todd or I've grown too that they have a fine marriage. What I even heard at you know, of him raaming her out about wanting to even go on this trip and being like it's your funeral if you do. I hear the frustration in him because he's like, you have now made this our life, like you have made this a part of our life, and it is causing our dynamic to be this specific way because he's like, I have given you a great life.

19:59 Speaker 2: We have great life, We are fine, we travel, we have money, all these things. I can't understand what you're getting from this show or these women that you can't get like from that you weren't having fulfilled before. But that also is coming out of him being an asshole, because in order for her to also probably stay full time also this season, if he's not gonna film with the women, he does have to film with her, So there's a level of showing up in support that he has to give her, which means like we might be sitting down for soups and salads and if you say something a little rude, I might have to overly call you out on it in this moment because the producer and the camera is here and we have to talk about the fact that I said last season you talk to me kind of rude, and that you're working on it.

20:44 Speaker 3: So now we have to talk.

20:45 Speaker 2: I have to assert myself and say that was rude. You need to work on that, and he's like rolling his eyes like yes, sure, okay, but like why am I here?

20:54 Speaker 3: Like what are we doing here?

20:55 Speaker 1: Okay? But I think so, I think that for those who don't know, there's like a lore that allegedly you have to if you people like sir. For instance, Sutton was a friend of on her first season. She was supposedly she was supposed to be full time, but because of her marriage situation, she couldn't film her divorce. She couldn't like film her kids, or couldn't film at the house, so there were things, there were boundaries to how deep you could go into her life, which is why she couldn't be a full time So allegedly, if you can't show certain things, you can only be a friend of.

21:26 Speaker 1: But we don't see Mary's life anymore really, I mean we see her son, but we don't see Robert sr. And because Mary's Mary's last year, No, she was full time last year. It was the year before that that she was a friend of the Monica season. Yeah, But like I think, if you, I think, if you implement, if you kind of put a stamp on, like I am a character that needs to be on this show. I have a lot to offer. They're willing to excuse the rule so I think next season together, she won't she won't have to film with him anymore.

22:01 Speaker 1: Because also think about Angie. Angie's husband doesn't film really anymore, that he doesn't want to be called gay, you know, and so but in the beginning he did a lot because I think she was a full time customer.

22:13 Speaker 2: But now usually first and second season housewives don't get as much privileges as the others. Circa Ashley the Wendy, you know, Wendy's first season, when Wendy couldn't bring her baby but Ashley could and they couldn't. Say, like, there are all kinds of things that like, once you prove yourself that you want case, yeah, well, once it's like proven that you're like that, you can carry being on the ensemble cast both separately and together but without having your own like you know, interesting things for people to connect to, and then you steel a valuable member of the cast.

22:47 Speaker 2: Up until then, we need all hands on debt because nobody knows or gives a fuck about you. And and I will say that for bron when like, as much as you didn't want all your stuff being brought out there, I don't think that you had a good enough authentic season of your own. If Lisa didn't betray you in some ways to even build the fans support that you would have had for a second season, would you have been brought back? Absolutely because you had money. Whether you know we can count it enough or not, we don't know.

23:19 Speaker 2: But you had money and people knew who you were, and you had great outfits, so you would have been asked back. But Lisa throwing you under the bus or calling attention to some of the things that just didn't necessarily seem like they clicked, Like Tad. You tell the entire group that Todd had an emotional affair, but at the reunion tried to control how much of that information he even found out about.

23:39 Speaker 3: And while Lisa was telling Beret.

23:41 Speaker 2: He is not going to like this accusation in real time like because again vulnerability but like you know, curiated. So if you're gonna maybe some people like to give a lot and some people have to give a little. I just also think that where Lisa is not someone who is self aware or forthcoming, she unfortunately also there's scorched there's so much scorched earth that will never see her being vulnerable with these ladies because they can't. It's she's scorchy earth herself. I would like that I'll be self aware for Lisa Barlow she.

24:17 Speaker 1: Did or this boat trip that's coming up looks bad for her again too.

24:21 Speaker 2: It's like every time they all get around, I'm like Lisa, I can't because that second episode was hard for me to defend and I'm not like a you know, y'all know, the only housewife till this day that I will ever stand is Lennithia Leaps.

24:34 Speaker 3: That's it.

24:34 Speaker 2: I don't go up for anybody else because there's never gonna be a housewife that will not have some level of disappointment or because you know, we see them as characters, but also they're real people who make real mistakes, and I would never want to be friends with like eighty five percent of these people in real life.

24:48 Speaker 3: A drink for two maids.

24:49 Speaker 2: Real friendships, no, thank you, because they likely would result to what we're seeing on TV. But like when it comes to the the whole girls getting together around Lisa, she has really this is a this is I've said every episode that I've recorded about it now that this is gonna be a bad season for her.

25:11 Speaker 1: It's knows she also knows it while she's in it.

25:14 Speaker 3: She she's like realizing it in real time too.

25:18 Speaker 1: It's like the it's like it's like the euphoria meme of oh my god, is this play about us? Like it's like she's having that what she.

25:25 Speaker 2: Is She's like, I don't understand, Like how you call a whole lunch to say that You're like the press conference, Like Lisa.

25:32 Speaker 1: She knew when she was in the press conference, she was like, this isn't landing, this isn't working. How do I jump ship?

25:38 Speaker 3: I was like, uh oh uh oh oh. So I'm like little I'm excited about the yacht trip. Though.

25:46 Speaker 1: Did you see this ship that's happening online with this random woman on TikTok and that Lisa is trying to sue her?

25:54 Speaker 3: Yes, because you know she.

25:55 Speaker 2: Got a ton of lawyers and one thing Lisa is not playing about right now is these lawsuits, like.

26:00 Speaker 1: You know what, So kind of a quick version of it if you haven't seen it. This woman on TikTok, she was just taking a front facing camera in her bed, just like gossiping, Like it wasn't it was not like she didn't even have like she didn't have like a thing behind her trying to point out all these evidence things. She was just trying to gossip. And she said she thinks that Lisa Barlow is the next housewife to get arrested because she is too adjacent to like so much lost lawsuits. She has too many lawyers.

26:27 Speaker 1: She's always scared about how her image comes across, and so she's always lawyering up. I don't know that I agree with that, but she's just saying her She's saying her business. I guess on there, which you should always say allegedly before you say anything, which she did not do.

26:40 Speaker 2: I used to have an allegedly button for my podcast.

26:43 Speaker 1: You gotta always yeah, just because I'm not going up again anybody with six lawyers. And so Lisa Barlow got up in the comments like the second it went up, and it was like, you will soon learn why I have so many lawyers. See you in court or something.

27:00 Speaker 2: Listen won't be me And I know that, but it's do you think she's behind though the rumors of Bronwin's fraud getting out there because thousand so interesting according to the girls, they believe it's so interesting that after you know, Heather tries to confront Lisa and be like, hey, Girley, it's you. It's giving matched energy. I know you're mad at Angie and she's mad at you, but like two sides of the same going, like you're literally yelling about the same thing, except you're not being self aware toaking any accountability.

27:35 Speaker 2: After that, she feels, you know, upset, threatened bad. You know, how dare you call me out? We are coming to the end of the episode where Bronwynn is faced with whether or not she will go on the trip because there are rumors circulating, but they're more than rumors. These are printed rumors that mean somebody says, somebody to the right thing. We've seen it on Beverly Hills. We've seen this in other you know, city of fraud, embezzlement or like an eviction thing from ten years ago that legally Browin cannot talk about now because it is an ongoing or.

28:12 Speaker 3: Sealed it sealed.

28:13 Speaker 1: Yeah no, because it was dismissed and then it got sealed.

28:16 Speaker 2: Dismissed him seal, so she can't talk about it.

28:20 Speaker 1: Did you see Carlos King's thing going around?

28:24 Speaker 3: What's that tell us?

28:26 Speaker 1: So, first of all, Carlos King has Monica on his podcast for SLC recaps Carlos, I don't know, I don't know who said no, but in How You Landed with Monica, but that is a crazy teas in the pod that you and I know that that was not the first person you called and you but you ended up with her. Anyways, So they were recapping and Monica brought up that she thinks that Todd may have been the person that sealed the lawsuits, which I have to say, I actually kind of think that's a good point. I could see that being the case.

29:01 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a very high profile like businessman. He's run quite a few companies, Like he may not want this business out there, and he has enough money to lock up a case so no one can ever talk about it again. Actually, and now he had it makes it kind of makes sense that she then wanted to sit down with him to verbally say it's sealed, I can't talk about it. Just kind of all feels like he has a little bit of a hand in it.

29:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, So then it was like, then how else would it have gotten out there? You know, if not for people who knew about it. It's not like someone with a new Vendetta who hated Brohm and like us of today could just google it and find out all this stuff and put it enough like in the press and all of that.

29:42 Speaker 1: So I'm stupid. I would not know how to If I google something and nothing comes up, I'm like, guess it's not true. Like I I only do like a first round look at things. I don't whoever goes into the depths to find all this shit, y'all? Well, Lisa Barlow does and Bronwan does.

30:00 Speaker 3: But again they're all like they all kind of play. Here's the thing.

30:04 Speaker 2: As much as they hate Lisa, they know that the only way, though, to like kind of get going is to fight.

30:10 Speaker 3: The way Lisa fights.

30:11 Speaker 2: They don't like that they they they do this with her, or that she does this with them, but no one is not doing it with her, Like they're like, well, you've brought.

30:20 Speaker 3: Us to this point. Well then maybe listen, you got a season.

30:24 Speaker 2: I'm sorry like these Lisa gonna have a bad season, yes, but that is accidental to me. That's because she doesn't know how to self how to be self aware enough to spin this to where she can use her charisma and that and know that you'd be just as better. You'd be better received as a housewife, or just as well received if you lean in and not try to control how much of this the public sees, because people would still be behind you if.

30:51 Speaker 3: You played this right. And she just doesn't know how to play it right. But the other girls do.

30:55 Speaker 2: They're playing the same game as Lisa now, like they're doing the same thing like Lisa's, Like, oh, you want to look up things and and go memorized depositions like chapter adverse like a Bible bitch, I got your Book of Mormon right here? But what about that thing that Todd had sealed up? But also that's why Todd is like rolling his eyes at brawling at the end, like, I don't know why you would want to hang out with these people who want to dig up your daddy laundry just to go on a yacht.

31:19 Speaker 3: I'll take go on a yacht right now. You need windling, we don't need you don't need to fight and yell and have someone call you.

31:27 Speaker 2: I don't know whatever the hell they're calling you an escort gout dick sucker, which.

31:31 Speaker 3: Is fantastic, fantastic.

31:34 Speaker 2: I would like gout the sucker merch at Bravo Khan, where I am not.

31:40 Speaker 3: But I'd like it there.

31:42 Speaker 1: I am not either not invited.

31:45 Speaker 3: Shout out to those In fact, I was disinvited.

31:48 Speaker 1: More on that after disinvited.

31:52 Speaker 2: More on that, after Bravo, More on that after. So

32:02 Speaker 2: I hope y'all having a great day.

32:03 Speaker 3: Listen. I'm not even I'm still sober and I'm feeling messy. That's it.

32:06 Speaker 2: That's the crazy part, even though it's the morning and normally by now i'd be on blunt number two. But because in taking a like low key limited boycott on Happy Eddie, I'm just.

32:15 Speaker 1: Like, have you been a consumer of the actual product?

32:21 Speaker 3: Oh?

32:21 Speaker 2: For sure, I used to sell it when I worked at a dispensary in Maryland in the summer.

32:25 Speaker 1: We shut up.

32:26 Speaker 3: It is.

32:28 Speaker 2: It's pretty comparable, to be honest. That's why I was so confused about all of this, and why again I want to say, and we can, like, you know, talk a little about Patomac.

32:42 Speaker 1: We didn't talk about the fart heard around the world.

32:44 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I have three paragraphs of notes on this for not.

32:49 Speaker 3: Even to reference.

32:50 Speaker 1: They were just gonna talk at least, what the.

32:53 Speaker 2: Fuck, Mary? You don't need Robert sr when you get this. But I think the producers needed to know, need to know that they will get this kind of behavior eclectic if your husband doesn't.

33:06 Speaker 3: Film okay, And so.

33:10 Speaker 2: Regardless of Robert or even Robert Junior's you know life and like the parts of her being a good mom and trying to keep her son who struggles with addiction on the straight and narrow.

33:21 Speaker 3: Mary's just Mary m.

33:23 Speaker 2: Cosby and she does not like it if you are going to make fun of her farts or as she remembers it, the.

33:34 Speaker 3: Part of maybe a dog, maybe her but.

33:37 Speaker 2: It's melt so bad it must have been a dog fart, and you're blaming it on me, even though I said I was gassy and that was That's the best conversation I've seen on Salt Lake City. And we've seen a lot of great confrontations. But Mary going over to Angie's house to make amends and Mary and Angie thinking it's gonna be you know for one reason, and instead it is because you really hurt her feelings when you made fun of her farts. She was uh, and then she was it was bad and gassy when she was Angie was just playing around with Mary and Mary started it, but she seems to have forgotten that she announced her own gassiness and fatulance to the room.

34:30 Speaker 2: So Mary, I mean so Angie consistently talking about it was all Mary started to get uncomfortable by, like, I'm never telling you anything again. All you would do was stop. You won't shut up about my farts. And I don't like that.

34:41 Speaker 1: And I see Angie in this. I am someone who like I like them a little bit.

34:49 Speaker 2: It was I thought it was funny. I think Mary is also just she's not She's not with us all.

34:54 Speaker 1: The time, so she's not good at.

34:57 Speaker 2: The trying to keep it together even in those conversations. But she was like, no, I am your sister, even though I made fun of your farts.

35:06 Speaker 3: So I do love you.

35:08 Speaker 1: Like the fact that when she goes, you're not my sister. We got that in the trailer, in the fact we got that in all these things. It's insane to me that that clip comes out of her talking about her farts.

35:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, very specifically, she's like you.

35:23 Speaker 2: And first of all, it was dog. The dog farted and you blamed it on me. You said, oh, it must be Mary, Mary's farting. I didn't like that you woul announce that I don't like that, and it's really great. I thought it was the not a Mary's expense, but I did think it was the comedic relief that we needed for an episode that it's like the week's this week. Both episodes were just like filler of like pre Trip.

35:52 Speaker 1: Though they're they're not bad also so like in.

35:55 Speaker 2: Potomac though to me, there's like not really any filler episodes because the girls are funny or wild enough that even if we're not doing activities.

36:02 Speaker 3: I'm having a good time.

36:04 Speaker 1: Potomac is really good right now. It's so funny.

36:08 Speaker 3: Potomac is look the best thing.

36:11 Speaker 1: They are killing.

36:14 Speaker 2: Like it is like watching real TV, like I've never seen ensemble caves act like this together like and and for us to have so many newbies, like technically K is still new to the group.

36:28 Speaker 3: We have two new house lives completely.

36:32 Speaker 1: Well, K is new, but K do you like K?

36:38 Speaker 2: I respect K now now today it's news to me that I think K is fine for housewives. I even think she's fine for housewives of Potomac and and and better than you know the weirdness of that is like you know, mea Thornton, but I you not.

37:02 Speaker 3: I don't.

37:02 Speaker 2: I don't think we'd be friends because I don't think she can handle h she needs to be chin checked.

37:09 Speaker 3: Well.

37:09 Speaker 1: I just I think we missed. I think they've tried to cast K's mom and then K showed up to the audition and they were like, wait, who's who, and then they ended up casting K accidentally when in reality they should have cast her mom, because like, she just doesn't feel housewife to me. I can't just I think she she seems like a nice person. It's just make me laugh sometimes, and I think she has a good banter with everyone here. It just something about it's crazy to me. This is her third season on the show.

37:35 Speaker 1: First was a friend of last season was her first full time, and then she's second season full time. It's like, I can't believe how not TV savvy she feels to me, despite being on a television program for three seasons.

37:47 Speaker 3: Way right.

37:50 Speaker 2: Game plan coming into this season. The the feeling of needing to have a beef or a few with somebody it's not new to How's Wife is just that it usually has a little bit of weight to it, and if in the first conversation or confrontation with the person you chosen to have beef with this year. You say you did this and she says, well, I was doing this. She's okay, well, fair, that's true. But what about now? I know that you are just like working through your rolodex of issues and concerns, and that is now it does feel planned like you actually have a beef with this girly, when to me, it doesn't make it be that hard to have like some real issues with someone with newsflash, baby.

38:32 Speaker 3: Your problem is with your friend. You probably should be dealing with that.

38:37 Speaker 1: Wendy, y'all, Wendy was acting crazy in this episode that her Seriously, her cackling was kind of like demonic to me.

38:50 Speaker 3: Also, did you.

38:51 Speaker 2: Notice that Wendy's pre Freakness event dress or outfit was the one that she released her first post like, she just released a photo of her first post arrest was.

39:04 Speaker 1: No, I didn't that?

39:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, which she was promoting to watch an episode of Potomac so that she can you know, probably pay her lawyer bills or whatever.

39:15 Speaker 1: Your general take on all that.

39:18 Speaker 2: My general take is again as somebody who was selling happy Atti in the stores for a new weed brand in Maryland, where at least in the state of Maryland, all the marijuana has to be grown and sold in the state. There's a lot of competition. Maryland weed has not been illegal for it's been legal long enough that there's a lot of competition. It's been recreationally legally the long enough.

39:44 Speaker 1: They have a lot of New York is very similar.

39:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, so for it to be something comparable, like it's in all the Maryland stores and it didn't start that way. He really had done a lot of work for me. I'm like, this must have been greed y'all overdid it? Because I don't think you were hurting for money in pockets.

40:03 Speaker 3: You weren't.

40:03 Speaker 2: So the in which to me, when you overreach and you over use you kind.

40:08 Speaker 1: Of what's funny to me is like, this is no shade to Potomac. The Potomac is not like Beverly Hills in terms of like everyone's net worth is like one hundred million dollars, Like it's not. We just went to Keana's apartment in downtown d C.

40:26 Speaker 2: She's in Baltimore. In Baltimore, it is cheaper she lives. I don't want to put it out there, but because I'm not for sure.

40:35 Speaker 3: But she.

40:38 Speaker 2: There's a it's a very famous brand hotel that owns the condo that she's in. It's one of the big five star ones that has residences on the harbor, and that's.

40:47 Speaker 1: Where she's like that place.

40:49 Speaker 3: There was not enough where.

40:50 Speaker 2: Mia used to live. Or it's right next door MEA's town, right next door.

40:56 Speaker 1: But like that apartment, I think that's like a one bedroom or maybe a two bedrooms.

41:00 Speaker 2: And it's not super expensive because it's in Baltimore. If I told people who don't live here in the price, or who didn't live in New York, they'd be like, that's insane and absurd. What are you even talking about. She probably paid still like a good four fitty for.

41:13 Speaker 1: It for yeah, I don't think that's that's a lot of money for.

41:16 Speaker 2: That, and it's because she again chose to live in Baltimore. I think that Wendy and josephos might have been having money problems because here's what I or greed problems because they moved from Rockville, where Giselle lives now. And if you remember when Jazelle.

41:30 Speaker 1: Bought her, that's close to Potomac right.

41:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's right outside. It's cheaper than Potomac. But when if you remember when Gazelle bought her house, her fixer rupper dump was nine nine nine nine, and that was the discounted They put the price down price four years ago.

41:50 Speaker 3: Before inflation or anything else.

41:52 Speaker 2: Gazelle Zell's now is worth about two point three million dollars, and that wouldn't seem like a lot because she's in a neighborhood. Neighborhood you can ride your kids bikes there. You would still have to drive to get to anywhere. But the Osephos had a house of the same size that they are in now, or they were in now in Rockville that likely costs three or four times the house they're in now, if that makes sense. They moved out past where Robin was like, they're outskirts, outskirts.

42:19 Speaker 1: Of Bolttare I know, they're far far, Yeah.

42:21 Speaker 3: They're far.

42:22 Speaker 2: They're like for the people who think that Baltimore were k Is is too expensive, they don't so. And then they got the same size house. So you're gonna get the same size house so you can spend less money go over there. But your business is popping. You have all these jobs. I think we don't wanna I think we want to be batties. I think that we saw this happening years ago. I honestly think Robin clocked it, which is wild for Robin Dixon to be right about anything and me.

42:52 Speaker 3: Agree with it. But when Wendy got.

42:54 Speaker 2: Happy and nests her two little boobies, I think that's where we saw.

42:58 Speaker 3: The writing line. It mattered more for her to.

43:01 Speaker 2: Be seen as the pretty battie housewife, girly, like a real housewife, like caps real cats housewife, to be seen as like the TM version of this versus professor Wendy, doctor, Wendy wife, Wendy mom, Wendy, all the things that we had seen her be. She told her she didn't want none of that no more, three seasons ago, and now she's got all new dresses and confessionals and they still don't look good, but she spent a lot of money on them. She wants marble, Florida ceiling, kitchen and all that stuff. Like I mean, yes, we maybe spending that drug money, but apparently it's not enough, especially when we saw your mom last year tell you that your responsibility financially is to also give her an allowance.

43:43 Speaker 2: Is she wants more, she mama. Mama wants a bigger she wants an ngry. She said, I've been a good girl and I'd like some more money for my daughter and her son. Thanks. So I think of all of that, not giving up that house wasn't enough. But it's telling to me, so it feels like this was greed for the sake of looking like seeming like showing that we have too much, that we have as much as we do allegedly but absolutely just living above our means. But not as if they didn't have means, You know what I mean, Because what I will say is for what Wendy is trying to show people looking like that her life is like shout out to Kay because again the condo that she's in, I know that is one hard to get into.

44:32 Speaker 2: It's like they have a co op even though no other building or condo and there does because it is a luxury hotel's residences that I have not seen them have a lot of in other states, but for some reason, they have one on the Harbor in Baltimore and one of but that's the right outside of Potomac for the old white people who want to live there as well, who can afford it. But Kay's business like she's actually popping her so like her beauty business, her health and wellness business, it is in such great location, like she that's where her money is.

45:08 Speaker 2: If you can afford that, If you're covering the rent and staff of having a business on the Baltimore Harbor on the water, like in this economy, and by yourself, not with a man, you have something reputable, You have something there. And I wish she would lean into that a little bit more because I don't necessarily think I understand or like her approach, because if she was like I am a bad But also what do we expect of a woman who is pining after this man named Greg? I don't get it. I don't get the alert.

45:38 Speaker 2: If I have my own business, my own spot and it was a cute see thing, and I have my own pictures on the wall, you would not see me talking to a man named Greg.

45:47 Speaker 3: If I looked like.

45:47 Speaker 2: Hey, own my own business, multi million dollar business, have my own cute little condo, I would not be telling I don't understand what Greg is here for, why he's even co hosting this party.

45:58 Speaker 3: I too was with Stace, like, so are you here or there? Or where? Are you, Like, where do you live? And he's like, you know, back and forth, I'm here all the time.

46:07 Speaker 1: Why I can't? Okay's mom sitting in the back, like sitting behind the table at the couch. She was like, look, I couldn't she looking into it. She wanted to jump in and be like yeah that no, uh that.

46:23 Speaker 3: You know, mom had thoughts. I saw Mom be like.

46:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I honestly, I'm like, so it feels displaced a little bit. But so Okay, I get I get worried because where she could be a good housewife when I want her to be right, she's a little bit off because while we're spending a lot of time going after Wendy and asking, you know, Angel across the table, do you like this girl? What difference does it make if Angel likes her dislikes her because her beef is not with Wendy. My problem, our concerned as a table is that you're saying you had to chin check this girl because she wasn't being loyal to you in front of your friends.

47:05 Speaker 2: And that was a problem. I too, was like, damn, Angel, how you gonna throw me? You can text me this, tell me in private, you know whatever.

47:13 Speaker 3: All these new girls.

47:14 Speaker 2: You had a case. Then you say you chin checked her. She's like, no, she didn't say that. Just I was like, I'm not a liar. I take the bones, collect them, and distribute them right on back. She said it, and y'all won't keep the energy with each other. And I'm watching Angel acquiesce and be like, well, in this moment, I don't like what Wendy's doing. I'm like, no, I'm not here to cap for Wendy, but what is she doing. I'm trying to figure out why y'all's energy is different when it seems like y'all are the two who have the problem.

47:42 Speaker 2: But just because y'all are friends, you can't have an issue with each other. Well, clearly that's not the case, because Angel came in here trying to show you a mirror to yourself.

47:50 Speaker 3: You're her first sniing.

47:51 Speaker 2: So I'm just a little confused as to like, why we're going after the wrong target when like you and Angel are at your own event fighting about whether or not you're fighting because of who you don't like Wendy and she should join you.

48:07 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's the age old like you situation where these women bring their friends on the show and then they don't be friends anymore, like a Porsche.

48:16 Speaker 3: And that was hard to me, Like it's it was really hard for me to watch. I'm not I agree.

48:21 Speaker 1: That that was that felt darker because they were like childhood childhood.

48:24 Speaker 2: The moms are now was fighting like they were in it they I'm talking about.

48:29 Speaker 1: I like Angel, but I do think there's some darkness and I can't quite put my finger on what it is. Like I feel like there's just something.

48:37 Speaker 2: She's a girl's girl when we meet you, because when we first meet you and you sit on the shows and say, people think I'm a bitch, but I'm actually.

48:44 Speaker 3: A girl's girl.

48:45 Speaker 1: Uh, there's something about like I think she's going to like snap baby and become a villain to Baltimore.

48:56 Speaker 2: She is from Baltimore, so and that it's like okay, So like when I talk to people who are like from for instance, in like from New York, they'll be like, there's like the New York City and then it's people who are from like upstate. Y'all even got different teams, like football teams like that you might root for. Right, that is the same thing. Baltimore and Potomac are not close by any means there at least an hour and a half without traffic.

49:23 Speaker 1: That's crazy. These are traveling so far to film the scott.

49:28 Speaker 2: The producers are doing mileage on these cars. I can't believe it. Like, yes, we're all belt wait. People like I live in Virginia. I get my weed in Maryland. I like my parents. I'm from Maryland, I work in DC. We how a hop all the time. But I'm telling you a third of the cast live either in Virginia or deep in Virginia. Like when I tell you where Stacey lives talk about having no money, I'm confused.

49:54 Speaker 3: I just found out out. I was like, what the fuck?

49:56 Speaker 2: Girl, I could afford a house over there. That should not be the case, should not?

50:00 Speaker 1: I love? I love Stacy, I know plenty. Do you know what? So Pooky?

50:09 Speaker 2: The same argument is what that you have for Lisa Barlowe is that I have for Stacy? And why I can appreciate it.

50:17 Speaker 3: You can appreciate her.

50:19 Speaker 2: I don't have to like her to think that she is absolutely a godsend for this show. And let me say what one thing Potomac is not suffering with. They don't have to pile up only one person. They don't have to only allow one person to be like the flawed individual like Lisa b and then everybody has a storyline. No Stacy clocks inc.

50:41 Speaker 1: She drives those two hours from work and says, I'm gonna get clocked in today with nothing in her stomach but hot coffee and.

50:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, Like she is great for this show.

50:57 Speaker 2: I think great, she's I'm having a good time watching her. I do not think she should go just because I may not like her or understand her vibe with her. That's mainly outside of the show. I'm having a better time watching all of y'all not vibe with her on the show.

51:12 Speaker 1: Like, but the women are baffled by her. They can't quite understand her.

51:17 Speaker 3: They don't get it. Nela has is your breath smell? And you lie a lot? How is it?

51:21 Speaker 1: Both outfit they had they had some of the craziest looking outfits at this this peakness pre.

51:33 Speaker 2: Okay, So that is also important because it's in Baltimore, So this only happens in Baltimore, like the Prequeens.

51:39 Speaker 1: Is it again?

51:40 Speaker 2: It's literally like the Kentucky Derby for the for Maryland.

51:44 Speaker 3: Rich people got it? Okay, the D ANDV got a level of wealth that I don't understand.

51:49 Speaker 2: So while everyone's net worth isn't high, it's because they don't need a concentrated area to put all their wealthy people. These people are sprinkled all throughout. Like I teaching an elementary school, a public elementary school, and I have kids from all socioeconomic backgrounds. But then I will have one kid who might say something like, young, my mom's still the president this morning. Like that happens. Like everybody just has so much money and power and connections and they just live everywhere.

52:16 Speaker 2: And that's why you know, those who have to me, what constitution you being a good Potomac housewife is that you own a home. That's why they're so gick to tell you we're renting, but we're gonna buy, because it is impossibly hard to own things around here, not because it's a shortage of inventory, but because there is a shortage of funds and.

52:36 Speaker 3: A high amount of them.

52:38 Speaker 2: Like Dan Schneider of the like the former Reskins owner, his house can't even sell in Potomac. It's like they won't approve anybody, so it's just.

52:48 Speaker 3: Still sitting there. So like in Baltimore.

52:50 Speaker 2: But the rich people will drive, they will get in their fancy Rolls is. You'll know it's the week like it's that weekend because you'll like be ramdly on four ninety five and your civic and then like I don't I a civic, but like you'll be in it, and all of a sudden you see like a Rolls Boys truck next to like a Fantom. Like the other day I was in Bethesda buying Mawed, not happy any but buying it, and I texted my wife like I just saw three may Backs in the course of ten minutes in Pathesta. They're unrelated to each other.

53:17 Speaker 2: I haven't seen it made back in like decades, like What's going on? Sixteen episode featuring.

53:22 Speaker 3: People, What's happening? And it's just like, I don't know.

53:25 Speaker 2: We decided to go out today and just like have a nice time. But Preakness, Baby, they put on their fasteners, they go in a gamble, they drank the champagne. I have a friend from high school who is both a trainer and a like a horse trainer and a jockey, So Preakness is like their big time of year, and so like they were there and racing horses on the day of the pots that women being there, So I'm actually really excited for that the next episode.

53:58 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well they're actually going to be up because remember this, this was.

54:03 Speaker 2: A different this was a pre Preakness, and just they'll asked us, how is it that we're at an event for k K's event, for Wendy's event.

54:15 Speaker 3: And you know, but what's weird?

54:17 Speaker 2: Is it even weirder is that k was met at when she was like, well, you know when they like to be big, better best.

54:21 Speaker 3: Is that true if we're here first with you?

54:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really, I don't. I don't understand it. But they all looked crazy. They looked like they were all going to very different events.

54:33 Speaker 2: Didn't remind you of like old school Jersey, Like remember like the old seasons of Jersey when not they're not even old school now, but like the early days of Mars Joseph's and then before they got too unwatchable where they would all show up in different and you're like, so are baseball game or like, well what about t o clock from Jette and being like I know you're not about to ask me, tell me that you didn't like my outfit when we got nothing. But she was like, Bravo, editors, I know I'm new here, but roll the footage because a DM like that they did.

55:08 Speaker 1: It was like bing bing bing bing bing bing.

55:10 Speaker 2: I kind of like eight and TiO is like, girl, i'd been DM and you like, you know what, you need some help.

55:18 Speaker 1: She can't dress. I'll never forget that amazing Karen quote in her confessional when she was like, Joselle is beautiful, but man, she can't dress for shit.

55:28 Speaker 3: What's worse is when they walked into it.

55:29 Speaker 2: Okay, so I know where this boutique is that they all met up when he had her legs out, because it's across from one of my other dispensary places. Happy Eddie is so directly across the street from there, it's crazy. It's like right by the ball they have the best bagels next door. I've always thought that boutique was heavily old lady ish, So when they walk in, I'm like, oh, this was just because they were like they didn't.

55:50 Speaker 3: Want to film with the mom. Maybe it was just like local.

55:52 Speaker 2: But when Joselle tells the sales girl, who's wearing the ugliest fucking thing, I've ever seen.

55:57 Speaker 3: She's like, that's cute, that's in the stores. Yeah, let me go pull this top for you.

56:01 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, how we keep getting caught up.

56:05 Speaker 4: But who like she has she has such a bad taste and where I don't know's not being honest with her, Like I don't think I think it's I think she's it's not fixable like I think because it's her core like taste level is.

56:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, like she.

56:25 Speaker 2: Just you know, he's having another kid right now, Like he's oh, really, there's.

56:30 Speaker 3: A baby on the way.

56:31 Speaker 2: He just got married last year, and no woman with the baby is not Oh my god. So shout out to Jaselle's kiss. They just became big sisters. Okay, past the holy whr.

56:44 Speaker 1: Jamal is crazy cheater, shooter, pumpkin eater.

56:47 Speaker 2: Oh he's out there, boycotten targeted making babies.

56:50 Speaker 3: That's all He's no.

56:52 Speaker 1: Jamal. He's such a seeming he's seemingly such a womanizer, but he also is such a champion for humans rights.

57:02 Speaker 3: He said, listen, I'm all about humans.

57:05 Speaker 1: He's like baby preachers.

57:06 Speaker 2: We can say, must dudes balance baby He's.

57:11 Speaker 1: Like because he is always front lines of any sort of like, like yes, protests or anything. And then he's like, but I do cheat on women.

57:21 Speaker 3: That's my one or a woman speak who's really like you know him? And they're like, yeah, so I'm Jamal's baby by the number set. Excuse me.

57:30 Speaker 1: He's like, women have the right to choose, and I have the right to cheat on them.

57:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're men have the right to choose that they want to have a baby with me, even if I'm not going to be committed to them.

57:39 Speaker 3: I think they should tell them they cannot.

57:42 Speaker 2: It's crazy, it's absolutely sud But at the same time, I'm again having the ball because although I am, the confusion is never like it's so confusing that it is that I can't follow it. Like, am I willing to invest some time with Kay and Wendy for no reason? Sure, if it means you're gonna keep having problems with Angel, because that seems to be all that's.

58:06 Speaker 3: Happening is Kay and Wendy fight.

58:09 Speaker 2: But Angel has to prove herself as being a girl's girl as well, even though she just seems like she cowers, and in this group, they don't like that. So I love the fact that these women call people out. I love that we are about to head to an event where there's like we're all just gonna sit around drink champagne and call each other out, and Jazzy's coming.

58:32 Speaker 1: Do I love Jazzy?

58:33 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm about to say, how do you feel about Jazzy?

58:35 Speaker 1: So I really like Jazzy. I was like last season, I was, I really liked her because she was there so much in the first half of the season and then she just like disappeared. Yeah, I wish she was like a bigger presence on the show. To be honest, I think she I think she has she has more charisma than Karena unfortunately.

58:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there are sometimes things like girlies before they can establish themselves, they want the Maryland is such a haves and a has not state that I think that they really do go like do I want to be able to do it on my own? Or do I want the luxury of like being taken care of? Because ultimately that is the goal. The goal is to be Early days Ashley Darby, who was a waitress at the local restaurant near her college town and after maybe a little bit of time with some girls here and there and some other boys, a rich white man walks in with an accent and a little what is.

59:30 Speaker 3: Coin to you?

59:31 Speaker 2: Because you are a twenty something year old a waitress at a restaurant in college, and you're like, oh, tee, I'm gonna go ahead and get some of that. And Jazzy is also like, I could play my cards right, get this wedding. Okay, get this wedding, and then I can get on that show and cut up or whatever. But I'm not having anything jeopardize my long term retirement plan, which is marrying this man that I.

59:56 Speaker 1: Stole allegedly, allegedly.

1:00:01 Speaker 3: But do you say, Gryl, I'm all for it. I don't care. I'm glad she'll be here.

1:00:07 Speaker 1: I'm happy to see her.

1:00:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, she comes in. Huh, she's got some things to say to the girls. You know, they all do the Ladies of potomachon.

1:00:13 Speaker 1: I know I haven't thought about at all, but they mentioned her this episode was miss Mia. I'm like, Wow, she left and no one has thought a minute about her when they talked about her.

1:00:25 Speaker 3: That's so crazy.

1:00:29 Speaker 1: The Miami trip, how they were like the last time I saw you were at the reunion unpacking. How we didn't Stacy and her Stacy and Jazzie were talking about her and how and how invited them to Miami and that never.

1:00:42 Speaker 3: Saw don't tell them the way.

1:00:45 Speaker 2: I've not remembered that lady at all, who is every day trying to like get our attention by dating Bobby Valentino, like we give a shit about him anymore, But the Shape Room still gives her.

1:00:57 Speaker 1: She's gonna carawl her way on to some reality show, it doesn't matter, or like what is we still out there?

1:01:02 Speaker 3: Mayor's boot camp, That's what it will be.

1:01:05 Speaker 1: You think that, or maybe you don't think she's gonna try and venture on to the Zeus network.

1:01:11 Speaker 3: No, Mea thinks she's good for that.

1:01:14 Speaker 2: She's she's incorrect, but she thinks it, and that's that's enough. She is a person that thinks that way highly of herself. Though again, I haven't thought about her since she walked off, because we were still when she left the show. Stacey was just unpacking a fresh set of bullshit. So I love I could give a shit about Mia purposely not being like you know, forthcoming or whatever. I prefer to live in the land of self lack of self awareness and delusion, and Stacy's giving us that Kay's giving.

1:01:46 Speaker 3: Us some of that. You know, Wendy's giving us some of that, and we don't know it, like we do.

1:01:53 Speaker 2: You think she'd have us a good season if we didn't know, Like I'm trying to figure out what season it looks like she's having or going to have if we didn't know what we know now, and.

1:02:02 Speaker 3: It appears like she would have had a fine one.

1:02:05 Speaker 1: I think she's always been I've never been a Wendy super fan. I always find her absolutely beautiful in her family's her I love her family, but I've always been annoyed by her, like, yeah, pretend housewifery, you know what I mean, Like her getting all the work done. All that really bothered me because she's telling us, I've always yeah, I've always found her to be a little bit phony, So I think she's just I do think she's coming across even more phony and housewife on this the way she's like pretending to be Kay's friend off camera, I mean on camera, in reality, they're not friends off like, which I think you have to believe on that.

1:02:49 Speaker 2: I saw Kay on Watch What Happens Live after this episode of Potomac, and I did understand better where she was coming from. When at fourth Wall, you know, completely broken, She's like, it's just what's confusing, because it seemed like when the cameras are down, she we were cooler, we were cool, and we were actually like, you know, building like some kind of cool friendship or whatever. But when the cameras go up, I'm back to being like a newbie friend of needing to prove myself. We don't talk have a relationship when that's not necessarily the case, or you don't see me as your equal on this show, and that's kind of wild.

1:03:23 Speaker 2: So I can also see Wenny, though, pull in like she has to keep everybody close to the child like she us to know where she stands and established where she stands, so she has an understanding, but it doesn't necessarily mean that what you believe your relationship is with her is what actually what she believes as well. She's one of those people that I feel like someone could say when he's my best friend or we've been best friends for blah blah blah, and Wendy would be like, I've known her for ten years, yes, yeah right, yeah, but not friends.

1:03:55 Speaker 3: That's what she said about Angels, so which I'm not I agree. I mean in college. I don't know Abouty who was a freshman when I was a senior.

1:04:02 Speaker 1: But bother me so much. She's like this is a.

1:04:06 Speaker 2: Vibe that she does carry with pretty much anybody knew or whatever, Like.

1:04:10 Speaker 3: I know of never her.

1:04:12 Speaker 2: But also, girl, you hated it when Karen did to you all, I'm saying years ago when Kelly.

1:04:17 Speaker 1: I know that is the sad part. She was that girl, and now she's trying to be the head housewife in charge. It's not landing.

1:04:26 Speaker 2: It's just not landing, and especially now that I know what you are needing to do to do it allegedly. I'm concerned Wendy girl, but not about my watch my watching listen Trader Joe's just put out, put back out their maple popcorn, pick me up a fresh bag today that we're recording this as a Sunday, so I'm in an episode behind it, like we'll be watching a Potomac tonight and I will have my snackies as they go to the Preakness and they watch, you know, they sit and watch the horses and try to be high class while reading each other.

1:04:56 Speaker 3: For philth I'm.

1:04:58 Speaker 2: Gonna be calculating. I'm like, Sundays are my favorite nights. Like I love Salt Lake City, I love the drama. Feels like Peak Housewives right now for them. I'm loving the Vortex, But Potomac is like I feel like I'm like watching destination television again, like real good TV, where something doesn't always need to be happening, but something is always happening even when there's nothing. We are preparing for an event and I'm having the time of my life. I'm laughing as much as the farts in Salt Lake City.

1:05:27 Speaker 2: We're fighting as much as Lisa, you know, being sued or whatever, like, but yet the stakes are low and that's nice. I mean, but at the same time, Karen's in jail at this time, so like I can't handle much.

1:05:40 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's true. I've having a good time.

1:05:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Tom, and I'm also having such a good time with you. But thank you so much for being here. We're time go and continue to listen to your good time. I recently did your show. Where can they listen to that and follow you and keep up with all the things.

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