Diving in RHOSLC & RHOP w/Tom (@thetomhamlett)

0:00 Speaker 1: Sounds strugging.

0:09 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologists out there. It

0:14 Speaker 2: is your girl Moni, and you are in the mix

0:17 Speaker 2: with MANI.

0:18 Speaker 3: What is up, y'all? It is hell. We're in the

0:22 Speaker 3: thick of it.

0:22 Speaker 2: It's fall. The vortex is happening in Bravo.

0:26 Speaker 3: Bravo.

0:26 Speaker 2: Con is slowly approaching. All the things are about to premiere.

0:30 Speaker 2: Love is Blind is over all the selling sunsets are

0:34 Speaker 2: coming back, like this is the time for TV. It's

0:38 Speaker 2: cold outside, so I'm inside and I'm watching shit and

0:42 Speaker 2: y'all are too. And when that happens, we got a

0:45 Speaker 2: lot to talk about. Like we're here, this is our

0:47 Speaker 2: Housewives episode. I have the best, most hilarious, the funnest

0:52 Speaker 2: and co host to talk all things Housewives, Salt Lake

0:55 Speaker 2: City and Potomac with me. I have Tom Hamlet here,

0:58 Speaker 2: who is the host of the dumps to Dive podcast,

1:01 Speaker 2: and I being a dumpster diva. I'm very excited that

1:04 Speaker 2: he is here. Hi, Tom, thank you for being here today.

1:06 Speaker 3: How are you.

1:07 Speaker 1: Doing great money? Thanks for having me back. It's been

1:09 Speaker 1: a minute, Yes it has.

1:11 Speaker 2: Listen, y'all. He's got his Renaissance World tour. Hat I

1:14 Speaker 2: should have wore my Cowboy Carter hat. I just I

1:16 Speaker 2: just took it off to walk my dog, so I.

1:18 Speaker 3: Should have wore mine. We could have been matching.

1:20 Speaker 2: But like, the vibes are good, the vibes are here.

1:22 Speaker 2: Beyonce is with us.

1:25 Speaker 1: My entire wardrobe is Beyonce Tour merch No, but for.

1:29 Speaker 2: Real, do you know how many times I were like

1:30 Speaker 2: the Alien Superstar shirts probably.

1:32 Speaker 1: A look that I have. That one I also have.

1:34 Speaker 1: I got the I'm Crazy.

1:35 Speaker 3: I gotial course I got.

1:37 Speaker 1: I got the special edition Destiny's Child. Wont that they

1:40 Speaker 1: dropped after the Atlanta show with Us Child.

1:43 Speaker 2: I send people to the Atlanta show, the pop up

1:45 Speaker 2: because it opened like the day before the and they

1:48 Speaker 2: were like, I'm not going to the concert anymore. I said, well,

1:50 Speaker 2: I need you to get in that line. It opens

1:51 Speaker 2: at ten. Here's what I want. And I send people

1:54 Speaker 2: and they sent it to me and I covered the

1:55 Speaker 2: FedEx calls, like yes.

1:57 Speaker 1: The one I didn't get that I wish I had

1:59 Speaker 1: was the the New York City special one where she's smoking.

2:03 Speaker 1: She like is lighting the cigarette off of the satue

2:05 Speaker 1: of Liberty.

2:06 Speaker 2: It's pretty much yeah, yeah, I really that one I

2:08 Speaker 2: was like damn it, but I had to limit myself.

2:11 Speaker 2: But at the same time, when she was on tour,

2:12 Speaker 2: we didn't know what shirts were gonna be at what

2:15 Speaker 2: states and cities, and then every time I was like,

2:17 Speaker 2: I want that one, but let me hold out. I'm

2:18 Speaker 2: gonna hold out for Atlanta and then Houston would be

2:21 Speaker 2: like cute as fuck. So I know, you know, with Beyonce,

2:25 Speaker 2: you never know, y'all, you really never know. And this

2:28 Speaker 2: is my biweekly reminder. Put y'all's cullings away now, because

2:31 Speaker 2: y'all know what I believe. My theory is that she's

2:35 Speaker 2: coming in twenty twenty six. Y'all keep telling me he's

2:37 Speaker 2: gonna be twenty twenty seven.

2:39 Speaker 3: I'm here to.

2:39 Speaker 1: Tell you will at least have music in twenty twenty six.

2:43 Speaker 1: I don't know, but the second that another tour will

2:45 Speaker 1: be in twenty twenty six, so I think we'll definitely

2:47 Speaker 1: have music.

2:48 Speaker 2: I know we'll have music, But usually even with music,

2:50 Speaker 2: something for me.

2:51 Speaker 3: To purchase comes before during a record. Yeah, when you.

2:56 Speaker 2: Think that's it, as soon as you buy that vinyl

2:59 Speaker 2: and that tour book or that you know, lighter that

3:01 Speaker 2: don't really work.

3:02 Speaker 3: Any of those things that a tour.

3:04 Speaker 1: Now, see, we don't talk about the thing have faulty.

3:06 Speaker 1: A lot of the stuff is we just we just

3:08 Speaker 1: keep it moving.

3:10 Speaker 2: But also maybe I got three I still got three

3:12 Speaker 2: lighters because the problem was me.

3:14 Speaker 3: Maybe it was me. Maybe it was me. And now

3:16 Speaker 3: that it's not me, they all know what they don't

3:19 Speaker 3: get me.

3:19 Speaker 1: Do you remember the Renaissance boxes, like before when it

3:22 Speaker 1: came out, you picked a box, I have one. Well

3:25 Speaker 1: in those boxes, all there was was a T shirt

3:28 Speaker 1: and a CD. Those T shirts, I mean I still

3:34 Speaker 1: wear mind everyone's. But y'all those T shirts were fully

3:37 Speaker 1: like fruit of the loom.

3:39 Speaker 3: Yeah they weren't.

3:41 Speaker 1: She's like no Target collection. Like it's like, this is

3:44 Speaker 1: the real.

3:45 Speaker 2: T shirts are when you've already spent your three thousand

3:47 Speaker 2: dollars to come get this shirt and stand in lining.

3:50 Speaker 2: That's where you're gonna get that good shirt. Okay, but

3:53 Speaker 2: like listen, if whatever it takes, those are the micro

3:57 Speaker 2: joy or macro Joys that I have. Right now, it's

3:59 Speaker 2: counting down the day is until Beyonce. Like how many

4:02 Speaker 2: Housewives seasons are going to go by before Beyonce?

4:06 Speaker 1: We have quite a few.

4:07 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Yeah, we'll probably have quite a few. You're right

4:10 Speaker 2: about it, well, then good. So then in the meantime,

4:13 Speaker 2: while we're hitting on Beyonce to bless us and just relieve,

4:16 Speaker 2: just personally relieve me from the hells of you know,

4:19 Speaker 2: being a working person in America in twenty twenty five

4:23 Speaker 2: because it's hell on earth.

4:24 Speaker 1: And when that we're going to celebrate that that we're working.

4:29 Speaker 2: Okay, because listen, really not shout out to the government

4:32 Speaker 2: federal employees.

4:34 Speaker 3: My entire family are all federal employees.

4:36 Speaker 1: So they're all like, shit, so sorry money.

4:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, either we're not working and it's a

4:41 Speaker 2: quote unquote paid stress vacation of like when will we

4:44 Speaker 2: ever see money again, or their spouses and partners are

4:47 Speaker 2: essential and they're not being paid.

4:49 Speaker 3: It's still going to work.

4:50 Speaker 2: Now, that's where you would have me fucked up, because

4:52 Speaker 2: I I'm very closely tied to my insurance extrinsic rewards

4:57 Speaker 2: for why I do all the same.

4:58 Speaker 1: That's why we all do what we do. But I

5:01 Speaker 1: can't believe all of those goddesses that go and work

5:07 Speaker 1: at TSA with the not taking a paycheck, not dealing

5:12 Speaker 1: with the maga monsters who roll up in TSA with

5:16 Speaker 1: with their with their liquids not all on the right size,

5:20 Speaker 1: with water and their water bottle with their maga hat

5:22 Speaker 1: on backwards, and they're screaming about not being able to

5:24 Speaker 1: take their shoes off and they don't. They're not collecting

5:26 Speaker 1: pay for that. It makes me feel crazy.

5:29 Speaker 2: I would never I can't. I would be a correct

5:31 Speaker 2: how y'all are not crashing y'all are amazing individuals. I

5:34 Speaker 2: will crash out, I really would, because I'm not someone

5:38 Speaker 2: who does well without the luxuries and the comforts of

5:41 Speaker 2: like my.

5:41 Speaker 3: Normal day to day like things that I from.

5:44 Speaker 2: The experience, like I'm I guess I'm as bad as Mary.

5:49 Speaker 2: I thought I wasn't, but I'm as bad as Mary.

5:51 Speaker 2: Like on so leg Look, I got provisions, I have

5:55 Speaker 2: provisions I need and not having a paycheck. But what

5:57 Speaker 2: really stress me out because listen, let's get into Salt

6:02 Speaker 2: Lake City because I'm to be reminded, where do you

6:07 Speaker 2: fall on the baby gorgeous spectrum?

6:10 Speaker 3: Like on the Lea side.

6:11 Speaker 1: We had some disagreements here, I know, and I'm not. Yeah,

6:18 Speaker 1: I'm not a baby gorgeous, but I am not a

6:21 Speaker 1: Bravo fan. And I encourage everyone to listen to me

6:24 Speaker 1: if you are if you need some guidance here, I

6:28 Speaker 1: encourage all of our Bravo family to kind of take

6:31 Speaker 1: this note. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean

6:33 Speaker 1: they're not necessary for the show. Like we don't need

6:36 Speaker 1: to be witch hunting people off of shows. There are

6:38 Speaker 1: some people we should witch hunt off of a show

6:40 Speaker 1: because they provide nothing and are bad people, like like Gretchen.

6:44 Speaker 1: Gretchen can get her ass.

6:45 Speaker 3: Off is not the answer. Vicki is not Heather getting off,

6:50 Speaker 3: it's getting.

6:51 Speaker 1: Off right right, but Vicky. But Vicky, in my opinion,

6:54 Speaker 1: like could have always existed on the show even though

6:57 Speaker 1: she's a monster, just because she's always watchable and creates

7:00 Speaker 1: good content. And I don't like her as a person,

7:02 Speaker 1: but like I think she's a so I don't really

7:05 Speaker 1: vibe with Lisa, but you know, I do find her necessary.

7:11 Speaker 1: But we wouldn't have a lot of the drama we're

7:13 Speaker 1: having right now without her. But I think where I

7:15 Speaker 1: struggle with her is her inability to like be self reflective,

7:20 Speaker 1: Like she is so stuck she can't receive any feedback

7:24 Speaker 1: from these ladies. Like I thought how the was being

7:26 Speaker 1: pretty generous with her when she was like, you're being

7:29 Speaker 1: really mean, Like you have to acknowledge that.

7:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, She's like, if Angie k is mean and going

7:33 Speaker 2: below the belt, so are you? Because you did it's

7:36 Speaker 2: more And she's like, what do you mean?

7:38 Speaker 3: I never said anything mean to Angie? What are you

7:40 Speaker 3: talking about?

7:40 Speaker 1: Literally she walked into that place and was like, it

7:43 Speaker 1: was like, I can't wait to be on a yacht.

7:44 Speaker 1: I'm sure Angie's gonna be excited. It's her first time

7:46 Speaker 1: being on a yacht. That poor ass bitch.

7:49 Speaker 3: And look, I say, strong, start, awful, finish. It was hard.

7:55 Speaker 3: Lisa is my you know.

7:57 Speaker 2: I shout out to Vanessa from the Bravo recap because

8:00 Speaker 2: I guess her and Lisa share similar birthday vibes, and

8:04 Speaker 2: she's like, one thing about us is that we're incredibly

8:07 Speaker 2: non self aware.

8:09 Speaker 3: I said, now, that is what.

8:10 Speaker 1: Is her sign. I think she's a Sagittarius therist cirl.

8:15 Speaker 1: I'm a sagittariust. That's the problem that.

8:17 Speaker 3: I can't I call.

8:20 Speaker 2: Here's the thing I have always called sagittarists sagitt terrorists.

8:25 Speaker 3: Because they can be Lisa Barlowe's right here. I am like,

8:30 Speaker 3: I love her.

8:30 Speaker 1: I don't know, but Sagittarius are very charismatic and they're

8:34 Speaker 1: very like they pull people in, but then they're well

8:38 Speaker 1: I balance, so I'm a double sage, which is scarce you.

8:43 Speaker 1: But then my third kind of balances me. I'm a cancer,

8:46 Speaker 1: so I'm I'm very The way my sign, my my

8:51 Speaker 1: map ball kind of pans out is that like I'm

8:53 Speaker 1: front facing, very like charismatic and like strong willed, but

8:58 Speaker 1: inside I'm actually like very up and crying and like,

9:03 Speaker 1: but people don't know that I'm like an emotional person

9:06 Speaker 1: because my outside is just like I'm a crazy I'm

9:08 Speaker 1: a crazy type a person.

9:10 Speaker 3: But now we.

9:13 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the core issue here is that we're both

9:15 Speaker 1: too similar. We can't exist.

9:17 Speaker 2: Say let me tell you though, because I'm a tourist.

9:19 Speaker 2: I'm a double tourist, and let me.

9:20 Speaker 1: Tell you there are like April.

9:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm an April tourist, and I do think there

9:25 Speaker 2: is a difference between April toruses and May Tauruses, because

9:28 Speaker 2: a may Taurus is Shina is Candy Burrists is an

9:35 Speaker 2: April tourist is Kalani and I, in fact, we have

9:39 Speaker 2: the same birthday, so like we do, only the amount

9:44 Speaker 2: we need to to self sustain the luxuries that we

9:47 Speaker 2: want and have, but do too much and be too

9:50 Speaker 2: like and lack self awareness. We would never we're like

9:53 Speaker 2: double down and the realistic of it all, which is

9:56 Speaker 2: also but we but we also like we can clock

9:58 Speaker 2: people so well, So Lee, you just gotta accept her. Oh,

10:02 Speaker 2: she's never gonna get it. This is the least self

10:04 Speaker 2: aware woman in the room. Okay, And so with that,

10:08 Speaker 2: you know, I'm just like, great, that's where she's at.

10:10 Speaker 2: I will never be friends with this girl. I could

10:12 Speaker 2: never trust her with my secret. She will tell on them.

10:14 Speaker 1: But I might have a you.

10:16 Speaker 2: Gotta know what your friends are for and to go

10:19 Speaker 2: to brunch and have a key key over some truffle

10:22 Speaker 2: fries and free tequila and talk about Angie.

10:25 Speaker 3: But I don't have to say nothing.

10:26 Speaker 2: Sort maybe I don't know, but accepting criticism, she will

10:31 Speaker 2: never But I noticed that because I was gonna ask you,

10:35 Speaker 2: did you think that this latest episode, I'm hearing everyone

10:40 Speaker 2: say Lisa doesn't know how to be vulnerable, she doesn't

10:44 Speaker 2: know how to open up. The problem is that she's

10:47 Speaker 2: not opening up. Now, Here's what I saw, not with

10:50 Speaker 2: the other women this episode.

10:52 Speaker 3: No, and that would makes sense. She ates them right now.

10:55 Speaker 2: They're all coming at her right now in her mind,

10:58 Speaker 2: whether that is what's happening is you know, irrelevant to

11:01 Speaker 2: Lisa Barlowe. But at home she was like, hey, John,

11:06 Speaker 2: you know, the psychic told me that we have communication

11:08 Speaker 2: issues and that resonated with me. And he's like kind

11:11 Speaker 2: of like being a little like, you know, not communicative.

11:15 Speaker 2: And we get Lisa crying, like she's sobbing. In the confessional,

11:20 Speaker 2: she's talking, they're having a conversation about how they this

11:25 Speaker 2: is Lisa's vulnerability and that I translated as everything is

11:30 Speaker 2: falling on her shoulders, which means that any amount of

11:32 Speaker 2: legal trouble whatever that she's trussed about and endto she

11:35 Speaker 2: didn't necessarily know because what she was doing, because it

11:38 Speaker 2: is all falling on her. She is like, I'm running

11:41 Speaker 2: the businesses, I'm running the home, i am doing the thing.

11:44 Speaker 2: And though for the last few seasons she's been like

11:47 Speaker 2: I'm that bitch, I'm doing it. I'm I'm sun Dance,

11:50 Speaker 2: I'm Mommy of the Year, I'm making brands for my kids.

11:54 Speaker 2: We see that behind closed doors, it is not all

11:57 Speaker 2: just let's make money money money with the family it

12:00 Speaker 2: is I'm overworked, I'm stressed, or I'm doing a lot,

12:04 Speaker 2: and so when things fall to the waysider, I don't know,

12:07 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know that I don't know.

12:09 Speaker 2: But like I'm I'm just a girl. I saw Lisa.

12:14 Speaker 1: I'm just a girl.

12:15 Speaker 2: It's just a girl with you know, a fifteen inch

12:18 Speaker 2: bust down middle part and you know, some harsh some

12:22 Speaker 2: harsh vocals and a diacode with limit.

12:24 Speaker 3: But she's doing her best.

12:27 Speaker 2: I thought this was vulnerability from Lisa that I had

12:30 Speaker 2: not seen her express before, especially about her marriage. This

12:37 Speaker 2: is like a thing like her marriage, her finances or businesses.

12:41 Speaker 2: These are things that normally she keeps so close to

12:43 Speaker 2: the vest that this felt like real vulnerability from her.

12:47 Speaker 2: So my question is it enough?

12:50 Speaker 3: Was this enough? Is this the first step?

12:52 Speaker 2: Or are we still or some people still like, nah,

12:55 Speaker 2: it's not the same.

12:57 Speaker 1: Well, I think I think the deeper problem with her, though,

13:00 Speaker 1: is that she is I think half the reason she's

13:03 Speaker 1: crying is that she can't believe she's crying. She can't

13:07 Speaker 1: believe she's having to be vulnerable on camera. Like I

13:10 Speaker 1: think she's played the game for a couple of seasons,

13:12 Speaker 1: where she's been able to skirt around personal issues, she's

13:15 Speaker 1: been able to curate a lot of her front facing persona,

13:19 Speaker 1: and I feel like she's I think half of her

13:21 Speaker 1: breakdowns right now are like, oh my god, my strong

13:26 Speaker 1: business woman persona that I've been trying to keep as

13:30 Speaker 1: my character on this show is kind of fading away.

13:33 Speaker 1: So I do appreciate the vulnerability, but I still think

13:39 Speaker 1: we could go a little further. Like I think the

13:41 Speaker 1: John stuff, I think there's more stuff going on there.

13:46 Speaker 1: It feels that she fed him lines before that scene

13:48 Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, babe, we're going to talk about this,

13:51 Speaker 1: but we can't go We can't talk about all this

13:53 Speaker 1: we have to talk about just like very top, very highlight.

13:57 Speaker 2: We don't communicate. We can talk about that that's relatable. Well,

14:00 Speaker 2: so it's it's curated vulnerability, right.

14:03 Speaker 1: So yeah, which I mean, I guess you could argue

14:05 Speaker 1: that's all of these shows in general.

14:07 Speaker 2: That's bron Win sitting down with Todd. Because my thing

14:13 Speaker 2: was like, Okay, she's not being vulnerable with the other women, sure,

14:19 Speaker 2: but bron Win, but what does that mean when someone

14:22 Speaker 2: who is vulnerable with the other women be lying?

14:24 Speaker 3: Because that's essentially what happened last season she's being accused of.

14:28 Speaker 2: That's what we are accusing Stacy of over poso. Man,

14:31 Speaker 2: like you're being vulnerable, but it is a vulnerability if

14:34 Speaker 2: it's lies. But also Todd is obviously never gonna film

14:37 Speaker 2: with us again, so we're also only going to get

14:40 Speaker 2: any kind of marital you know, confrontation with the with

14:44 Speaker 2: those people at you know, Swig or the coffee shop

14:49 Speaker 2: or whatever restaurant that they're sitting down at that she's

14:52 Speaker 2: you know, parading her new outfit in. And I think

14:55 Speaker 2: that while Lisa is curating vulnerability and she's crying because

15:00 Speaker 2: she's like, I cant believe I have to do this

15:01 Speaker 2: to keep my job or to be a good housewife.

15:03 Speaker 2: Meredith never has to, you know, she's saying that in

15:05 Speaker 2: her head, like Meredith doesn't have to do this and

15:08 Speaker 2: she gets to rent a home and her husband gets

15:10 Speaker 2: to be in Ohio half the year and she gets

15:12 Speaker 2: to do whatever. But I have to, you know, face

15:15 Speaker 2: all the crimes and say and say that I didn't

15:17 Speaker 2: talk enough about my life. Whereas but like Bronn in

15:21 Speaker 2: same episode, Bronwin and her husband go from Hi, honey,

15:25 Speaker 2: and you see let's have a little dictate whatever to

15:29 Speaker 2: you just dismissed my feelings and I'm just very upseparate

15:31 Speaker 2: now and I'm just I can't believe he would say

15:33 Speaker 2: that to me. And I'm like, well, I'm sorry, I

15:34 Speaker 2: don't mean to do that, And why do you put

15:36 Speaker 2: yourself in a situation. I'm like, I am having its

15:39 Speaker 2: equally as hard of a time believing them, is what

15:41 Speaker 2: I'm saying.

15:42 Speaker 3: I'm having a hard.

15:43 Speaker 2: Time believing orally as well as not being curated because

15:48 Speaker 2: you're disappointed in one scene or hurt by something that

15:51 Speaker 2: he says. It's just a matter of fact. But at

15:54 Speaker 2: the end, you're you don't want to, like, you know,

15:57 Speaker 2: skip to the end. You may or may not go

15:59 Speaker 2: on the trip with all the other girlies because of

16:02 Speaker 2: some things here facing.

16:05 Speaker 1: She will always go on the trip. Let's be clear

16:07 Speaker 1: about she's gonna go on the trip.

16:09 Speaker 2: Your husband was like he was like reaming her out

16:11 Speaker 2: about even thinks I don't know what would be wrong

16:13 Speaker 2: with you if you want to go on that trip,

16:14 Speaker 2: like if your your funeral.

16:16 Speaker 3: Would be up to you.

16:17 Speaker 2: But you're putting it's a problem for homemaking like that

16:20 Speaker 2: doesn't fish you off as being a little harsh or disrespective.

16:23 Speaker 2: Didn't he say last year he was gonna work on

16:25 Speaker 2: talking to you crazy reckless like that?

16:28 Speaker 1: But I think he just he truly does not understand

16:33 Speaker 1: the purpose of the show.

16:37 Speaker 3: I don't understand. Why are you here?

16:38 Speaker 2: She's like, because you don't appreciate my Christmas Cariano numbers

16:42 Speaker 2: the way I need you to.

16:43 Speaker 3: Straight old man, you just don't.

16:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, she I really like I also, I also have

16:52 Speaker 1: I I am one person removed from bron when one

16:57 Speaker 1: of my partner's best friends was Braun a bridesmaid in

17:00 Speaker 1: Bronwin's wedding, and she knows Todd very well well. She

17:07 Speaker 1: so all I've ever heard about him was that he

17:10 Speaker 1: is like a joy to be around. This is cut

17:12 Speaker 1: to me watching the show being like, where's the joy?

17:16 Speaker 3: I didn't know he had joy fullness.

17:19 Speaker 1: I'm not going to defend him. I just it's I

17:22 Speaker 1: think that. So here's the problem. I bet you they've

17:25 Speaker 1: lived a very nice life together off camera, where he

17:28 Speaker 1: like takes care of things and he talks to her

17:30 Speaker 1: in a probably very normal way, but like he doesn't

17:34 Speaker 1: maybe respect all of the things that she wants to do.

17:38 Speaker 1: One of which being be a real housewife. And so

17:41 Speaker 1: then the cameras pick up and he's like starting to

17:44 Speaker 1: act like, well, what the hell is this? This is

17:46 Speaker 1: a mess. You're you're not acting like you usually do,

17:49 Speaker 1: your hang out.

17:50 Speaker 3: With people you don't usually hang out with.

17:52 Speaker 1: I don't really vibe with this. I don't really vibe

17:54 Speaker 1: with this house is version of you. And so he's

17:57 Speaker 1: kind of reacting authentically on camera to what he really

18:00 Speaker 1: feels like, and she doesn't and it comes across bad.

18:03 Speaker 1: But unfortunately, whatever you put on this show, even if

18:07 Speaker 1: it's a little fake, the world now sees it, and

18:10 Speaker 1: I think eventually it's just going to become your real reality,

18:14 Speaker 1: Like do you know what I mean? Like if this

18:16 Speaker 1: is how they're filming, if this is how they're behaving

18:19 Speaker 1: on camera with each other, and say it was never

18:22 Speaker 1: like that before the camera's picked up, right. Unfortunately, now

18:25 Speaker 1: I think it's going to this version is going to

18:27 Speaker 1: bleed into their relationship because it's all everyone's seen is

18:32 Speaker 1: like him act this way. That's gonna it has to

18:35 Speaker 1: get to her head that the world is watching him

18:37 Speaker 1: be an asshole on camera.

18:39 Speaker 2: It has to because my thing is, like I wonder

18:42 Speaker 2: what the long term gain is I don't think Broman

18:45 Speaker 2: is like duplicitous and like I'm here to I don't

18:48 Speaker 2: feel like we have a carry bread from Dallas so

18:50 Speaker 2: that I'm here to get divorced. I genuinely think that

18:53 Speaker 2: where this woman was beautiful, you know smart.

18:57 Speaker 1: I forgot about that woman. I was like Carrie Bread,

19:00 Speaker 1: Who the hell remember when.

19:01 Speaker 2: She like walked us around Thailand to like clip beads

19:04 Speaker 2: from other people's jewelry and was like five thousand dollars.

19:08 Speaker 3: It's so nice.

19:08 Speaker 1: She so cringe, Oh my god, what a bad house sold?

19:13 Speaker 3: What honestly.

19:16 Speaker 1: When she joined was on the show, you know, crumbled exactly.

19:21 Speaker 3: Doullas was a fever dream. But I think about it often.

19:24 Speaker 1: It's crazy.

19:25 Speaker 3: It's so crazy.

19:26 Speaker 2: But like, I don't think Bronmin is like here to

19:29 Speaker 2: get the forced or anything. I even think she might

19:31 Speaker 2: really like slash love Todd or I've grown too that

19:34 Speaker 2: they have a fine marriage. What I even heard at

19:37 Speaker 2: you know, of him raaming her out about wanting to

19:41 Speaker 2: even go on this trip and being like it's your

19:43 Speaker 2: funeral if you do. I hear the frustration in him

19:48 Speaker 2: because he's like, you have now made this our life,

19:51 Speaker 2: like you have made this a part of our life,

19:53 Speaker 2: and it is causing our dynamic to be this specific

19:56 Speaker 2: way because he's like, I have given you a great life.

19:59 Speaker 2: We have great life, We are fine, we travel, we

20:02 Speaker 2: have money, all these things. I can't understand what you're

20:05 Speaker 2: getting from this show or these women that you can't

20:09 Speaker 2: get like from that you weren't having fulfilled before. But

20:13 Speaker 2: that also is coming out of him being an asshole,

20:16 Speaker 2: because in order for her to also probably stay full

20:18 Speaker 2: time also this season, if he's not gonna film with

20:21 Speaker 2: the women, he does have to film with her, So

20:23 Speaker 2: there's a level of showing up in support that he

20:26 Speaker 2: has to give her, which means like we might be

20:28 Speaker 2: sitting down for soups and salads and if you say

20:31 Speaker 2: something a little rude, I might have to overly call

20:33 Speaker 2: you out on it in this moment because the producer

20:36 Speaker 2: and the camera is here and we have to talk

20:38 Speaker 2: about the fact that I said last season you talk

20:41 Speaker 2: to me kind of rude, and that you're working on it.

20:44 Speaker 3: So now we have to talk.

20:45 Speaker 2: I have to assert myself and say that was rude.

20:48 Speaker 2: You need to work on that, and he's like rolling

20:50 Speaker 2: his eyes like yes, sure, okay, but like why am

20:53 Speaker 2: I here?

20:54 Speaker 3: Like what are we doing here?

20:55 Speaker 1: Okay? But I think so, I think that for those

20:58 Speaker 1: who don't know, there's like a lore that allegedly you

21:02 Speaker 1: have to if you people like sir. For instance, Sutton

21:05 Speaker 1: was a friend of on her first season. She was

21:08 Speaker 1: supposedly she was supposed to be full time, but because

21:10 Speaker 1: of her marriage situation, she couldn't film her divorce. She

21:14 Speaker 1: couldn't like film her kids, or couldn't film at the house,

21:17 Speaker 1: so there were things, there were boundaries to how deep

21:19 Speaker 1: you could go into her life, which is why she

21:21 Speaker 1: couldn't be a full time So allegedly, if you can't

21:23 Speaker 1: show certain things, you can only be a friend of.

21:26 Speaker 1: But we don't see Mary's life anymore really, I mean

21:29 Speaker 1: we see her son, but we don't see Robert sr.

21:33 Speaker 1: And because Mary's Mary's last year, No, she was full

21:38 Speaker 1: time last year. It was the year before that that

21:39 Speaker 1: she was a friend of the Monica season. Yeah, But

21:44 Speaker 1: like I think, if you, I think, if you implement,

21:47 Speaker 1: if you kind of put a stamp on, like I

21:48 Speaker 1: am a character that needs to be on this show.

21:50 Speaker 1: I have a lot to offer. They're willing to excuse

21:54 Speaker 1: the rule so I think next season together, she won't

21:59 Speaker 1: she won't have to film with him anymore. Because also

22:02 Speaker 1: think about Angie. Angie's husband doesn't film really anymore, that

22:05 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be called gay, you know, and

22:08 Speaker 1: so but in the beginning he did a lot because

22:11 Speaker 1: I think she was a full time customer.

22:13 Speaker 2: But now usually first and second season housewives don't get

22:16 Speaker 2: as much privileges as the others. Circa Ashley the Wendy,

22:22 Speaker 2: you know, Wendy's first season, when Wendy couldn't bring her

22:25 Speaker 2: baby but Ashley could and they couldn't. Say, like, there

22:27 Speaker 2: are all kinds of things that like, once you prove

22:29 Speaker 2: yourself that you want case, yeah, well, once it's like

22:32 Speaker 2: proven that you're like that, you can carry being on

22:36 Speaker 2: the ensemble cast both separately and together but without having

22:41 Speaker 2: your own like you know, interesting things for people to

22:44 Speaker 2: connect to, and then you steel a valuable member of

22:46 Speaker 2: the cast. Up until then, we need all hands on

22:49 Speaker 2: debt because nobody knows or gives a fuck about you.

22:52 Speaker 2: And and I will say that for bron when like,

22:55 Speaker 2: as much as you didn't want all your stuff being

22:57 Speaker 2: brought out there, I don't think that you had a

23:01 Speaker 2: good enough authentic season of your own. If Lisa didn't

23:05 Speaker 2: betray you in some ways to even build the fans

23:09 Speaker 2: support that you would have had for a second season,

23:11 Speaker 2: would you have been brought back? Absolutely because you had money.

23:15 Speaker 2: Whether you know we can count it enough or not,

23:18 Speaker 2: we don't know. But you had money and people knew

23:21 Speaker 2: who you were, and you had great outfits, so you

23:22 Speaker 2: would have been asked back. But Lisa throwing you under

23:25 Speaker 2: the bus or calling attention to some of the things

23:28 Speaker 2: that just didn't necessarily seem like they clicked, Like Tad.

23:31 Speaker 2: You tell the entire group that Todd had an emotional affair,

23:34 Speaker 2: but at the reunion tried to control how much of

23:36 Speaker 2: that information he even found out about.

23:39 Speaker 3: And while Lisa was telling Beret.

23:41 Speaker 2: He is not going to like this accusation in real

23:46 Speaker 2: time like because again vulnerability but like you know, curiated.

23:51 Speaker 2: So if you're gonna maybe some people like to give

23:54 Speaker 2: a lot and some people have to give a little.

23:56 Speaker 2: I just also think that where Lisa is not someone

24:01 Speaker 2: who is self aware or forthcoming, she unfortunately also there's

24:06 Speaker 2: scorched there's so much scorched earth that will never see

24:08 Speaker 2: her being vulnerable with these ladies because they can't. It's

24:12 Speaker 2: she's scorchy earth herself. I would like that I'll be

24:14 Speaker 2: self aware for Lisa Barlow she.

24:17 Speaker 1: Did or this boat trip that's coming up looks bad

24:19 Speaker 1: for her again too.

24:21 Speaker 2: It's like every time they all get around, I'm like Lisa,

24:24 Speaker 2: I can't because that second episode was hard for me

24:27 Speaker 2: to defend and I'm not like a you know, y'all know,

24:29 Speaker 2: the only housewife till this day that I will ever

24:32 Speaker 2: stand is Lennithia Leaps.

24:34 Speaker 3: That's it.

24:34 Speaker 2: I don't go up for anybody else because there's never

24:36 Speaker 2: gonna be a housewife that will not have some level

24:40 Speaker 2: of disappointment or because you know, we see them as characters,

24:42 Speaker 2: but also they're real people who make real mistakes, and

24:44 Speaker 2: I would never want to be friends with like eighty

24:45 Speaker 2: five percent of these people in real life.

24:48 Speaker 3: A drink for two maids.

24:49 Speaker 2: Real friendships, no, thank you, because they likely would result

24:54 Speaker 2: to what we're seeing on TV. But like when it

24:58 Speaker 2: comes to the the whole girls getting together around Lisa,

25:03 Speaker 2: she has really this is a this is I've said

25:06 Speaker 2: every episode that I've recorded about it now that this

25:09 Speaker 2: is gonna be a bad season for her.

25:11 Speaker 1: It's knows she also knows it while she's in it.

25:14 Speaker 3: She she's like realizing it in real time too.

25:18 Speaker 1: It's like the it's like it's like the euphoria meme

25:21 Speaker 1: of oh my god, is this play about us? Like

25:23 Speaker 1: it's like she's having that what she.

25:25 Speaker 2: Is She's like, I don't understand, Like how you call

25:28 Speaker 2: a whole lunch to say that You're like the press conference,

25:32 Speaker 2: Like Lisa.

25:32 Speaker 1: She knew when she was in the press conference, she

25:34 Speaker 1: was like, this isn't landing, this isn't working. How do

25:36 Speaker 1: I jump ship?

25:38 Speaker 3: I was like, uh oh uh oh oh. So I'm

25:42 Speaker 3: like little I'm excited about the yacht trip. Though.

25:46 Speaker 1: Did you see this ship that's happening online with this

25:49 Speaker 1: random woman on TikTok and that Lisa is trying to

25:52 Speaker 1: sue her?

25:54 Speaker 3: Yes, because you know she.

25:55 Speaker 2: Got a ton of lawyers and one thing Lisa is

25:57 Speaker 2: not playing about right now is these lawsuits, like.

26:00 Speaker 1: You know what, So kind of a quick version of

26:02 Speaker 1: it if you haven't seen it. This woman on TikTok,

26:04 Speaker 1: she was just taking a front facing camera in her bed,

26:07 Speaker 1: just like gossiping, Like it wasn't it was not like

26:10 Speaker 1: she didn't even have like she didn't have like a

26:12 Speaker 1: thing behind her trying to point out all these evidence things.

26:16 Speaker 1: She was just trying to gossip. And she said she

26:18 Speaker 1: thinks that Lisa Barlow is the next housewife to get

26:20 Speaker 1: arrested because she is too adjacent to like so much

26:25 Speaker 1: lost lawsuits. She has too many lawyers. She's always scared

26:28 Speaker 1: about how her image comes across, and so she's always

26:31 Speaker 1: lawyering up. I don't know that I agree with that,

26:34 Speaker 1: but she's just saying her She's saying her business. I

26:36 Speaker 1: guess on there, which you should always say allegedly before

26:38 Speaker 1: you say anything, which she did not do.

26:40 Speaker 2: I used to have an allegedly button for my podcast.

26:43 Speaker 1: You gotta always yeah, just because I'm not going up

26:49 Speaker 1: again anybody with six lawyers. And so Lisa Barlow got

26:54 Speaker 1: up in the comments like the second it went up,

26:56 Speaker 1: and it was like, you will soon learn why I

26:57 Speaker 1: have so many lawyers. See you in court or something.

27:00 Speaker 2: Listen won't be me And I know that, but it's

27:05 Speaker 2: do you think she's behind though the rumors of Bronwin's

27:09 Speaker 2: fraud getting out there because thousand so interesting according to

27:15 Speaker 2: the girls, they believe it's so interesting that after you know,

27:20 Speaker 2: Heather tries to confront Lisa and be like, hey, Girley,

27:23 Speaker 2: it's you. It's giving matched energy. I know you're mad

27:26 Speaker 2: at Angie and she's mad at you, but like two

27:28 Speaker 2: sides of the same going, like you're literally yelling about

27:31 Speaker 2: the same thing, except you're not being self aware toaking

27:34 Speaker 2: any accountability. After that, she feels, you know, upset, threatened bad.

27:39 Speaker 2: You know, how dare you call me out? We are

27:42 Speaker 2: coming to the end of the episode where Bronwynn is

27:46 Speaker 2: faced with whether or not she will go on the

27:48 Speaker 2: trip because there are rumors circulating, but they're more than rumors.

27:52 Speaker 2: These are printed rumors that mean somebody says, somebody to

27:55 Speaker 2: the right thing. We've seen it on Beverly Hills. We've

27:58 Speaker 2: seen this in other you know, city of fraud, embezzlement

28:03 Speaker 2: or like an eviction thing from ten years ago that

28:07 Speaker 2: legally Browin cannot talk about now because it is an

28:11 Speaker 2: ongoing or.

28:12 Speaker 3: Sealed it sealed.

28:13 Speaker 1: Yeah no, because it was dismissed and then it got sealed.

28:16 Speaker 2: Dismissed him seal, so she can't talk about it.

28:20 Speaker 1: Did you see Carlos King's thing going around?

28:24 Speaker 3: What's that tell us?

28:26 Speaker 1: So, first of all, Carlos King has Monica on his

28:30 Speaker 1: podcast for SLC recaps Carlos, I don't know, I don't

28:33 Speaker 1: know who said no, but in How You Landed with Monica,

28:36 Speaker 1: but that is a crazy teas in the pod that

28:39 Speaker 1: you and I know that that was not the first

28:41 Speaker 1: person you called and you but you ended up with her. Anyways,

28:48 Speaker 1: So they were recapping and Monica brought up that she

28:51 Speaker 1: thinks that Todd may have been the person that sealed

28:54 Speaker 1: the lawsuits, which I have to say, I actually kind

28:59 Speaker 1: of think that's a good point. I could see that

29:00 Speaker 1: being the case. I mean, he's a very high profile

29:02 Speaker 1: like businessman. He's run quite a few companies, Like he

29:06 Speaker 1: may not want this business out there, and he has

29:09 Speaker 1: enough money to lock up a case so no one

29:12 Speaker 1: can ever talk about it again. Actually, and now he

29:14 Speaker 1: had it makes it kind of makes sense that she

29:16 Speaker 1: then wanted to sit down with him to verbally say

29:19 Speaker 1: it's sealed, I can't talk about it. Just kind of

29:21 Speaker 1: all feels like he has a little bit of a

29:23 Speaker 1: hand in it.

29:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, So then it was like, then how else would

29:26 Speaker 2: it have gotten out there? You know, if not for

29:30 Speaker 2: people who knew about it. It's not like someone with

29:33 Speaker 2: a new Vendetta who hated Brohm and like us of

29:35 Speaker 2: today could just google it and find out all this

29:38 Speaker 2: stuff and put it enough like in the press and

29:41 Speaker 2: all of that.

29:42 Speaker 1: So I'm stupid. I would not know how to If

29:44 Speaker 1: I google something and nothing comes up, I'm like, guess

29:46 Speaker 1: it's not true. Like I I only do like a

29:50 Speaker 1: first round look at things. I don't whoever goes into

29:54 Speaker 1: the depths to find all this shit, y'all? Well, Lisa

29:58 Speaker 1: Barlow does and Bronwan does.

30:00 Speaker 3: But again they're all like they all kind of play.

30:03 Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

30:04 Speaker 2: As much as they hate Lisa, they know that the

30:06 Speaker 2: only way, though, to like kind of get going is

30:09 Speaker 2: to fight.

30:10 Speaker 3: The way Lisa fights.

30:11 Speaker 2: They don't like that they they they do this with her,

30:15 Speaker 2: or that she does this with them, but no one

30:18 Speaker 2: is not doing it with her, Like they're like, well,

30:20 Speaker 2: you've brought.

30:20 Speaker 3: Us to this point. Well then maybe listen, you got

30:23 Speaker 3: a season.

30:24 Speaker 2: I'm sorry like these Lisa gonna have a bad season, yes,

30:27 Speaker 2: but that is accidental to me. That's because she doesn't

30:30 Speaker 2: know how to self how to be self aware enough

30:33 Speaker 2: to spin this to where she can use her charisma

30:36 Speaker 2: and that and know that you'd be just as better.

30:39 Speaker 2: You'd be better received as a housewife, or just as

30:41 Speaker 2: well received if you lean in and not try to

30:45 Speaker 2: control how much of this the public sees, because people

30:49 Speaker 2: would still be behind you if.

30:51 Speaker 3: You played this right. And she just doesn't know how

30:53 Speaker 3: to play it right. But the other girls do.

30:55 Speaker 2: They're playing the same game as Lisa now, like they're

30:57 Speaker 2: doing the same thing like Lisa's, Like, oh, you want

30:59 Speaker 2: to look up things and and go memorized depositions like

31:03 Speaker 2: chapter adverse like a Bible bitch, I got your Book

31:07 Speaker 2: of Mormon right here? But what about that thing that

31:09 Speaker 2: Todd had sealed up? But also that's why Todd is

31:12 Speaker 2: like rolling his eyes at brawling at the end, like,

31:14 Speaker 2: I don't know why you would want to hang out

31:16 Speaker 2: with these people who want to dig up your daddy

31:17 Speaker 2: laundry just to go on a yacht.

31:19 Speaker 3: I'll take go on a yacht right now. You need windling,

31:23 Speaker 3: we don't need you don't need to fight and yell

31:26 Speaker 3: and have someone call you.

31:27 Speaker 2: I don't know whatever the hell they're calling you an

31:29 Speaker 2: escort gout dick sucker, which.

31:31 Speaker 3: Is fantastic, fantastic.

31:34 Speaker 2: I would like gout the sucker merch at Bravo Khan,

31:38 Speaker 2: where I am not.

31:40 Speaker 3: But I'd like it there.

31:42 Speaker 1: I am not either not invited.

31:45 Speaker 3: Shout out to those In fact, I was disinvited.

31:48 Speaker 1: More on that after disinvited.

31:52 Speaker 2: More on that, after Bravo, More on that after. So

32:02 Speaker 2: I hope y'all having a great day.

32:03 Speaker 3: Listen. I'm not even I'm still sober and I'm feeling messy.

32:06 Speaker 3: That's it.

32:06 Speaker 2: That's the crazy part, even though it's the morning and

32:09 Speaker 2: normally by now i'd be on blunt number two. But

32:11 Speaker 2: because in taking a like low key limited boycott on

32:13 Speaker 2: Happy Eddie, I'm just.

32:15 Speaker 1: Like, have you been a consumer of the actual product?

32:21 Speaker 3: Oh?

32:21 Speaker 2: For sure, I used to sell it when I worked

32:23 Speaker 2: at a dispensary in Maryland in the summer.

32:25 Speaker 1: We shut up.

32:26 Speaker 3: It is.

32:28 Speaker 2: It's pretty comparable, to be honest. That's why I was

32:32 Speaker 2: so confused about all of this, and why again I

32:35 Speaker 2: want to say, and we can, like, you know, talk

32:38 Speaker 2: a little about Patomac.

32:42 Speaker 1: We didn't talk about the fart heard around the world.

32:44 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I have three paragraphs of notes on

32:48 Speaker 2: this for not.

32:49 Speaker 3: Even to reference.

32:50 Speaker 1: They were just gonna talk at least, what the.

32:53 Speaker 2: Fuck, Mary? You don't need Robert sr when you get this.

32:58 Speaker 2: But I think the producers needed to know, need to

33:00 Speaker 2: know that they will get this kind of behavior eclectic

33:04 Speaker 2: if your husband doesn't.

33:06 Speaker 3: Film okay, And so.

33:10 Speaker 2: Regardless of Robert or even Robert Junior's you know life

33:14 Speaker 2: and like the parts of her being a good mom

33:17 Speaker 2: and trying to keep her son who struggles with addiction

33:19 Speaker 2: on the straight and narrow.

33:21 Speaker 3: Mary's just Mary m.

33:23 Speaker 2: Cosby and she does not like it if you are

33:28 Speaker 2: going to make fun of her farts or as she

33:33 Speaker 2: remembers it, the.

33:34 Speaker 3: Part of maybe a dog, maybe her but.

33:37 Speaker 2: It's melt so bad it must have been a dog fart,

33:41 Speaker 2: and you're blaming it on me, even though I said

33:44 Speaker 2: I was gassy and that was That's the best conversation

33:47 Speaker 2: I've seen on Salt Lake City. And we've seen a

33:50 Speaker 2: lot of great confrontations. But Mary going over to Angie's

33:55 Speaker 2: house to make amends and Mary and Angie thinking it's

33:58 Speaker 2: gonna be you know for one reason, and instead it

34:04 Speaker 2: is because you really hurt her feelings when you made

34:10 Speaker 2: fun of her farts. She was uh, and then she

34:17 Speaker 2: was it was bad and gassy when she was Angie

34:20 Speaker 2: was just playing around with Mary and Mary started it,

34:23 Speaker 2: but she seems to have forgotten that she announced her

34:26 Speaker 2: own gassiness and fatulance to the room. So Mary, I

34:31 Speaker 2: mean so Angie consistently talking about it was all Mary

34:34 Speaker 2: started to get uncomfortable by, like, I'm never telling you

34:36 Speaker 2: anything again. All you would do was stop. You won't

34:38 Speaker 2: shut up about my farts. And I don't like that.

34:41 Speaker 1: And I see Angie in this. I am someone who

34:45 Speaker 1: like I like them a little bit.

34:49 Speaker 2: It was I thought it was funny. I think Mary

34:51 Speaker 2: is also just she's not She's not with us all.

34:54 Speaker 1: The time, so she's not good at.

34:57 Speaker 2: The trying to keep it together even in those conversations.

35:03 Speaker 2: But she was like, no, I am your sister, even

35:05 Speaker 2: though I made fun of your farts.

35:06 Speaker 3: So I do love you.

35:08 Speaker 1: Like the fact that when she goes, you're not my sister.

35:12 Speaker 1: We got that in the trailer, in the fact we

35:14 Speaker 1: got that in all these things. It's insane to me

35:16 Speaker 1: that that clip comes out of her talking about her farts.

35:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, very specifically, she's like you.

35:23 Speaker 2: And first of all, it was dog. The dog farted

35:26 Speaker 2: and you blamed it on me. You said, oh, it

35:27 Speaker 2: must be Mary, Mary's farting. I didn't like that you

35:31 Speaker 2: woul announce that I don't like that, and it's really great.

35:37 Speaker 2: I thought it was the not a Mary's expense, but

35:39 Speaker 2: I did think it was the comedic relief that we

35:43 Speaker 2: needed for an episode that it's like the week's this week.

35:48 Speaker 2: Both episodes were just like filler of like pre Trip.

35:52 Speaker 1: Though they're they're not bad also so like in.

35:55 Speaker 2: Potomac though to me, there's like not really any filler

35:57 Speaker 2: episodes because the girls are funny or wild enough that

36:00 Speaker 2: even if we're not doing activities.

36:02 Speaker 3: I'm having a good time.

36:04 Speaker 1: Potomac is really good right now. It's so funny.

36:08 Speaker 3: Potomac is look the best thing.

36:11 Speaker 1: They are killing.

36:14 Speaker 2: Like it is like watching real TV, like I've never

36:19 Speaker 2: seen ensemble caves act like this together like and and

36:23 Speaker 2: for us to have so many newbies, like technically K

36:27 Speaker 2: is still new to the group.

36:28 Speaker 3: We have two new house lives completely.

36:32 Speaker 1: Well, K is new, but K do you like K?

36:38 Speaker 2: I respect K now now today it's news to me

36:45 Speaker 2: that I think K is fine for housewives. I even

36:50 Speaker 2: think she's fine for housewives of Potomac and and and

36:53 Speaker 2: better than you know the weirdness of that is like

36:57 Speaker 2: you know, mea Thornton, but I you not.

37:02 Speaker 3: I don't.

37:02 Speaker 2: I don't think we'd be friends because I don't think

37:04 Speaker 2: she can handle h she needs to be chin checked.

37:09 Speaker 3: Well.

37:09 Speaker 1: I just I think we missed. I think they've tried

37:12 Speaker 1: to cast K's mom and then K showed up to

37:14 Speaker 1: the audition and they were like, wait, who's who, and

37:17 Speaker 1: then they ended up casting K accidentally when in reality

37:20 Speaker 1: they should have cast her mom, because like, she just

37:23 Speaker 1: doesn't feel housewife to me. I can't just I think

37:25 Speaker 1: she she seems like a nice person. It's just make

37:28 Speaker 1: me laugh sometimes, and I think she has a good

37:30 Speaker 1: banter with everyone here. It just something about it's crazy

37:33 Speaker 1: to me. This is her third season on the show.

37:35 Speaker 1: First was a friend of last season was her first

37:37 Speaker 1: full time, and then she's second season full time. It's like,

37:41 Speaker 1: I can't believe how not TV savvy she feels to me,

37:44 Speaker 1: despite being on a television program for three seasons.

37:47 Speaker 3: Way right.

37:50 Speaker 2: Game plan coming into this season. The the feeling of

37:56 Speaker 2: needing to have a beef or a few with somebody

37:59 Speaker 2: it's not new to How's Wife is just that it

38:00 Speaker 2: usually has a little bit of weight to it, and

38:03 Speaker 2: if in the first conversation or confrontation with the person

38:06 Speaker 2: you chosen to have beef with this year. You say

38:09 Speaker 2: you did this and she says, well, I was doing this.

38:12 Speaker 2: She's okay, well, fair, that's true. But what about now?

38:15 Speaker 2: I know that you are just like working through your

38:18 Speaker 2: rolodex of issues and concerns, and that is now it

38:22 Speaker 2: does feel planned like you actually have a beef with

38:24 Speaker 2: this girly, when to me, it doesn't make it be

38:27 Speaker 2: that hard to have like some real issues with someone

38:30 Speaker 2: with newsflash, baby.

38:32 Speaker 3: Your problem is with your friend. You probably should be

38:35 Speaker 3: dealing with that.

38:37 Speaker 1: Wendy, y'all, Wendy was acting crazy in this episode that

38:43 Speaker 1: her Seriously, her cackling was kind of like demonic to me.

38:50 Speaker 3: Also, did you.

38:51 Speaker 2: Notice that Wendy's pre Freakness event dress or outfit was

38:56 Speaker 2: the one that she released her first post like, she

39:00 Speaker 2: just released a photo of her first post arrest was.

39:04 Speaker 1: No, I didn't that?

39:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, which she was promoting to watch an episode of

39:09 Speaker 2: Potomac so that she can you know, probably pay her

39:12 Speaker 2: lawyer bills or whatever.

39:15 Speaker 1: Your general take on all that.

39:18 Speaker 2: My general take is again as somebody who was selling

39:22 Speaker 2: happy Atti in the stores for a new weed brand

39:25 Speaker 2: in Maryland, where at least in the state of Maryland,

39:28 Speaker 2: all the marijuana has to be grown and sold in

39:32 Speaker 2: the state. There's a lot of competition. Maryland weed has

39:36 Speaker 2: not been illegal for it's been legal long enough that

39:40 Speaker 2: there's a lot of competition. It's been recreationally legally the

39:43 Speaker 2: long enough.

39:44 Speaker 1: They have a lot of New York is very similar.

39:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, so for it to be something comparable, like it's

39:51 Speaker 2: in all the Maryland stores and it didn't start that way.

39:54 Speaker 2: He really had done a lot of work for me.

39:56 Speaker 2: I'm like, this must have been greed y'all overdid it?

40:00 Speaker 2: Because I don't think you were hurting for money in pockets.

40:03 Speaker 3: You weren't.

40:03 Speaker 2: So the in which to me, when you overreach and

40:07 Speaker 2: you over use you kind.

40:08 Speaker 1: Of what's funny to me is like, this is no

40:11 Speaker 1: shade to Potomac. The Potomac is not like Beverly Hills

40:15 Speaker 1: in terms of like everyone's net worth is like one

40:18 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars, Like it's not. We just went to

40:22 Speaker 1: Keana's apartment in downtown d C.

40:26 Speaker 2: She's in Baltimore. In Baltimore, it is cheaper she lives.

40:31 Speaker 2: I don't want to put it out there, but because

40:33 Speaker 2: I'm not for sure.

40:35 Speaker 3: But she.

40:38 Speaker 2: There's a it's a very famous brand hotel that owns

40:41 Speaker 2: the condo that she's in. It's one of the big

40:44 Speaker 2: five star ones that has residences on the harbor, and that's.

40:47 Speaker 1: Where she's like that place.

40:49 Speaker 3: There was not enough where.

40:50 Speaker 2: Mia used to live. Or it's right next door MEA's town,

40:55 Speaker 2: right next door.

40:56 Speaker 1: But like that apartment, I think that's like a one

40:57 Speaker 1: bedroom or maybe a two bedrooms.

41:00 Speaker 2: And it's not super expensive because it's in Baltimore. If

41:03 Speaker 2: I told people who don't live here in the price,

41:05 Speaker 2: or who didn't live in New York, they'd be like,

41:07 Speaker 2: that's insane and absurd. What are you even talking about.

41:09 Speaker 2: She probably paid still like a good four fitty for.

41:13 Speaker 1: It for yeah, I don't think that's that's a lot

41:15 Speaker 1: of money for.

41:16 Speaker 2: That, and it's because she again chose to live in Baltimore.

41:19 Speaker 2: I think that Wendy and josephos might have been having

41:21 Speaker 2: money problems because here's what I or greed problems because

41:25 Speaker 2: they moved from Rockville, where Giselle lives now. And if

41:29 Speaker 2: you remember when Jazelle.

41:30 Speaker 1: Bought her, that's close to Potomac right.

41:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's right outside. It's cheaper than Potomac. But

41:37 Speaker 2: when if you remember when Gazelle bought her house, her

41:40 Speaker 2: fixer rupper dump was nine nine nine nine, and that

41:44 Speaker 2: was the discounted They put the price down price four

41:49 Speaker 2: years ago.

41:50 Speaker 3: Before inflation or anything else.

41:52 Speaker 2: Gazelle Zell's now is worth about two point three million dollars,

41:55 Speaker 2: and that wouldn't seem like a lot because she's in

41:56 Speaker 2: a neighborhood. Neighborhood you can ride your kids bikes there.

42:00 Speaker 2: You would still have to drive to get to anywhere.

42:02 Speaker 2: But the Osephos had a house of the same size

42:05 Speaker 2: that they are in now, or they were in now

42:08 Speaker 2: in Rockville that likely costs three or four times the

42:12 Speaker 2: house they're in now, if that makes sense. They moved

42:15 Speaker 2: out past where Robin was like, they're outskirts, outskirts.

42:19 Speaker 1: Of Bolttare I know, they're far far, Yeah.

42:21 Speaker 3: They're far.

42:22 Speaker 2: They're like for the people who think that Baltimore were

42:25 Speaker 2: k Is is too expensive, they don't so. And then

42:28 Speaker 2: they got the same size house. So you're gonna get

42:30 Speaker 2: the same size house so you can spend less money

42:32 Speaker 2: go over there. But your business is popping. You have

42:37 Speaker 2: all these jobs. I think we don't wanna I think

42:41 Speaker 2: we want to be batties. I think that we saw

42:43 Speaker 2: this happening years ago. I honestly think Robin clocked it,

42:48 Speaker 2: which is wild for Robin Dixon to be right about

42:51 Speaker 2: anything and me.

42:52 Speaker 3: Agree with it. But when Wendy got.

42:54 Speaker 2: Happy and nests her two little boobies, I think that's

42:57 Speaker 2: where we saw.

42:58 Speaker 3: The writing line. It mattered more for her to.

43:01 Speaker 2: Be seen as the pretty battie housewife, girly, like a

43:05 Speaker 2: real housewife, like caps real cats housewife, to be seen

43:10 Speaker 2: as like the TM version of this versus professor Wendy, doctor,

43:15 Speaker 2: Wendy wife, Wendy mom, Wendy, all the things that we

43:18 Speaker 2: had seen her be. She told her she didn't want

43:20 Speaker 2: none of that no more, three seasons ago, and now

43:22 Speaker 2: she's got all new dresses and confessionals and they still

43:25 Speaker 2: don't look good, but she spent a lot of money

43:27 Speaker 2: on them. She wants marble, Florida ceiling, kitchen and all

43:31 Speaker 2: that stuff. Like I mean, yes, we maybe spending that

43:34 Speaker 2: drug money, but apparently it's not enough, especially when we

43:37 Speaker 2: saw your mom last year tell you that your responsibility

43:41 Speaker 2: financially is to also give her an allowance. Is she

43:44 Speaker 2: wants more, she mama. Mama wants a bigger she wants

43:49 Speaker 2: an ngry. She said, I've been a good girl and

43:51 Speaker 2: I'd like some more money for my daughter and her son. Thanks.

43:55 Speaker 2: So I think of all of that, not giving up

43:59 Speaker 2: that house wasn't enough. But it's telling to me, so

44:05 Speaker 2: it feels like this was greed for the sake of

44:09 Speaker 2: looking like seeming like showing that we have too much,

44:13 Speaker 2: that we have as much as we do allegedly but

44:15 Speaker 2: absolutely just living above our means. But not as if

44:18 Speaker 2: they didn't have means, You know what I mean, Because

44:21 Speaker 2: what I will say is for what Wendy is trying

44:24 Speaker 2: to show people looking like that her life is like

44:26 Speaker 2: shout out to Kay because again the condo that she's in,

44:30 Speaker 2: I know that is one hard to get into. It's

44:33 Speaker 2: like they have a co op even though no other

44:35 Speaker 2: building or condo and there does because it is a

44:37 Speaker 2: luxury hotel's residences that I have not seen them have

44:41 Speaker 2: a lot of in other states, but for some reason,

44:43 Speaker 2: they have one on the Harbor in Baltimore and one

44:46 Speaker 2: of but that's the right outside of Potomac for the

44:49 Speaker 2: old white people who want to live there as well,

44:51 Speaker 2: who can afford it. But Kay's business like she's actually

44:55 Speaker 2: popping her so like her beauty business, her health and

45:03 Speaker 2: wellness business, it is in such great location, like she

45:07 Speaker 2: that's where her money is. If you can afford that,

45:09 Speaker 2: If you're covering the rent and staff of having a

45:12 Speaker 2: business on the Baltimore Harbor on the water, like in

45:17 Speaker 2: this economy, and by yourself, not with a man, you

45:20 Speaker 2: have something reputable, You have something there. And I wish

45:23 Speaker 2: she would lean into that a little bit more because

45:26 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think I understand or like her approach,

45:30 Speaker 2: because if she was like I am a bad But

45:31 Speaker 2: also what do we expect of a woman who is

45:33 Speaker 2: pining after this man named Greg? I don't get it.

45:37 Speaker 2: I don't get the alert. If I have my own business,

45:39 Speaker 2: my own spot and it was a cute see thing,

45:42 Speaker 2: and I have my own pictures on the wall, you

45:44 Speaker 2: would not see me talking to a man named Greg.

45:47 Speaker 3: If I looked like.

45:47 Speaker 2: Hey, own my own business, multi million dollar business, have

45:51 Speaker 2: my own cute little condo, I would not be telling

45:54 Speaker 2: I don't understand what Greg is here for, why he's

45:56 Speaker 2: even co hosting this party.

45:58 Speaker 3: I too was with Stace, like, so are you here

46:01 Speaker 3: or there? Or where? Are you, Like, where do you live?

46:05 Speaker 3: And he's like, you know, back and forth, I'm here

46:07 Speaker 3: all the time.

46:07 Speaker 1: Why I can't? Okay's mom sitting in the back, like

46:11 Speaker 1: sitting behind the table at the couch. She was like, look,

46:13 Speaker 1: I couldn't she looking into it. She wanted to jump

46:17 Speaker 1: in and be like yeah that no, uh that.

46:23 Speaker 3: You know, mom had thoughts. I saw Mom be like.

46:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I honestly, I'm like, so it feels displaced

46:33 Speaker 2: a little bit. But so Okay, I get I get

46:37 Speaker 2: worried because where she could be a good housewife when

46:42 Speaker 2: I want her to be right, she's a little bit

46:44 Speaker 2: off because while we're spending a lot of time going

46:46 Speaker 2: after Wendy and asking, you know, Angel across the table,

46:50 Speaker 2: do you like this girl? What difference does it make

46:53 Speaker 2: if Angel likes her dislikes her because her beef is

46:56 Speaker 2: not with Wendy. My problem, our concerned as a table

46:59 Speaker 2: is that you're saying you had to chin check this

47:02 Speaker 2: girl because she wasn't being loyal to you in front

47:04 Speaker 2: of your friends. And that was a problem. I too,

47:07 Speaker 2: was like, damn, Angel, how you gonna throw me? You

47:09 Speaker 2: can text me this, tell me in private, you know whatever.

47:13 Speaker 3: All these new girls.

47:14 Speaker 2: You had a case. Then you say you chin checked her.

47:17 Speaker 2: She's like, no, she didn't say that. Just I was like,

47:18 Speaker 2: I'm not a liar. I take the bones, collect them,

47:21 Speaker 2: and distribute them right on back. She said it, and

47:24 Speaker 2: y'all won't keep the energy with each other. And I'm

47:27 Speaker 2: watching Angel acquiesce and be like, well, in this moment,

47:31 Speaker 2: I don't like what Wendy's doing. I'm like, no, I'm

47:34 Speaker 2: not here to cap for Wendy, but what is she doing.

47:36 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out why y'all's energy is different

47:39 Speaker 2: when it seems like y'all are the two who have

47:41 Speaker 2: the problem. But just because y'all are friends, you can't

47:44 Speaker 2: have an issue with each other. Well, clearly that's not

47:46 Speaker 2: the case, because Angel came in here trying to show

47:48 Speaker 2: you a mirror to yourself.

47:50 Speaker 3: You're her first sniing.

47:51 Speaker 2: So I'm just a little confused as to like, why

47:54 Speaker 2: we're going after the wrong target when like you and

47:59 Speaker 2: Angel are at your own event fighting about whether or

48:02 Speaker 2: not you're fighting because of who you don't like Wendy

48:06 Speaker 2: and she should join you.

48:07 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's the age old like you situation

48:10 Speaker 1: where these women bring their friends on the show and

48:13 Speaker 1: then they don't be friends anymore, like a Porsche.

48:16 Speaker 3: And that was hard to me, Like it's it was

48:19 Speaker 3: really hard for me to watch. I'm not I agree.

48:21 Speaker 1: That that was that felt darker because they were like

48:23 Speaker 1: childhood childhood.

48:24 Speaker 2: The moms are now was fighting like they were in

48:28 Speaker 2: it they I'm talking about.

48:29 Speaker 1: I like Angel, but I do think there's some darkness

48:33 Speaker 1: and I can't quite put my finger on what it is.

48:35 Speaker 1: Like I feel like there's just something.

48:37 Speaker 2: She's a girl's girl when we meet you, because when

48:39 Speaker 2: we first meet you and you sit on the shows

48:41 Speaker 2: and say, people think I'm a bitch, but I'm actually.

48:44 Speaker 3: A girl's girl.

48:45 Speaker 1: Uh, there's something about like I think she's going to

48:51 Speaker 1: like snap baby and become a villain to Baltimore.

48:56 Speaker 2: She is from Baltimore, so and that it's like okay,

49:05 Speaker 2: So like when I talk to people who are like

49:07 Speaker 2: from for instance, in like from New York, they'll be like,

49:09 Speaker 2: there's like the New York City and then it's people

49:11 Speaker 2: who are from like upstate. Y'all even got different teams,

49:14 Speaker 2: like football teams like that you might root for. Right,

49:17 Speaker 2: that is the same thing. Baltimore and Potomac are not

49:19 Speaker 2: close by any means there at least an hour and

49:21 Speaker 2: a half without traffic.

49:23 Speaker 1: That's crazy. These are traveling so far to film the scott.

49:28 Speaker 2: The producers are doing mileage on these cars. I can't

49:32 Speaker 2: believe it. Like, yes, we're all belt wait. People like

49:35 Speaker 2: I live in Virginia. I get my weed in Maryland.

49:37 Speaker 2: I like my parents. I'm from Maryland, I work in DC.

49:40 Speaker 2: We how a hop all the time. But I'm telling

49:43 Speaker 2: you a third of the cast live either in Virginia

49:48 Speaker 2: or deep in Virginia. Like when I tell you where

49:49 Speaker 2: Stacey lives talk about having no money, I'm confused.

49:54 Speaker 3: I just found out out. I was like, what the fuck?

49:56 Speaker 2: Girl, I could afford a house over there. That should

49:59 Speaker 2: not be the case, should not?

50:00 Speaker 1: I love? I love Stacy, I know plenty. Do you

50:07 Speaker 1: know what? So Pooky?

50:09 Speaker 2: The same argument is what that you have for Lisa

50:13 Speaker 2: Barlowe is that I have for Stacy? And why I

50:14 Speaker 2: can appreciate it.

50:17 Speaker 3: You can appreciate her.

50:19 Speaker 2: I don't have to like her to think that she

50:21 Speaker 2: is absolutely a godsend for this show. And let me

50:25 Speaker 2: say what one thing Potomac is not suffering with. They

50:28 Speaker 2: don't have to pile up only one person. They don't

50:30 Speaker 2: have to only allow one person to be like the

50:34 Speaker 2: flawed individual like Lisa b and then everybody has a storyline.

50:37 Speaker 2: No Stacy clocks inc.

50:41 Speaker 1: She drives those two hours from work and says, I'm

50:46 Speaker 1: gonna get clocked in today with nothing in her stomach

50:49 Speaker 1: but hot coffee and.

50:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, Like she is great for this show.

50:57 Speaker 2: I think great, she's I'm having a good time watching her.

51:01 Speaker 2: I do not think she should go just because I

51:04 Speaker 2: may not like her or understand her vibe with her.

51:07 Speaker 2: That's mainly outside of the show. I'm having a better

51:09 Speaker 2: time watching all of y'all not vibe with her on

51:11 Speaker 2: the show.

51:12 Speaker 1: Like, but the women are baffled by her. They can't

51:16 Speaker 1: quite understand her.

51:17 Speaker 3: They don't get it. Nela has is your breath smell?

51:19 Speaker 3: And you lie a lot? How is it?

51:21 Speaker 1: Both outfit they had they had some of the craziest

51:27 Speaker 1: looking outfits at this this peakness pre.

51:33 Speaker 2: Okay, So that is also important because it's in Baltimore,

51:37 Speaker 2: So this only happens in Baltimore, like the Prequeens.

51:39 Speaker 1: Is it again?

51:40 Speaker 2: It's literally like the Kentucky Derby for the for Maryland.

51:44 Speaker 3: Rich people got it? Okay, the D ANDV got a

51:48 Speaker 3: level of wealth that I don't understand.

51:49 Speaker 2: So while everyone's net worth isn't high, it's because they

51:52 Speaker 2: don't need a concentrated area to put all their wealthy people.

51:57 Speaker 2: These people are sprinkled all throughout. Like I teaching an

52:02 Speaker 2: elementary school, a public elementary school, and I have kids

52:04 Speaker 2: from all socioeconomic backgrounds. But then I will have one

52:07 Speaker 2: kid who might say something like, young, my mom's still

52:09 Speaker 2: the president this morning. Like that happens. Like everybody just

52:12 Speaker 2: has so much money and power and connections and they

52:15 Speaker 2: just live everywhere. And that's why you know, those who

52:18 Speaker 2: have to me, what constitution you being a good Potomac

52:22 Speaker 2: housewife is that you own a home. That's why they're

52:24 Speaker 2: so gick to tell you we're renting, but we're gonna buy,

52:27 Speaker 2: because it is impossibly hard to own things around here,

52:33 Speaker 2: not because it's a shortage of inventory, but because there

52:35 Speaker 2: is a shortage of funds and.

52:36 Speaker 3: A high amount of them.

52:38 Speaker 2: Like Dan Schneider of the like the former Reskins owner,

52:41 Speaker 2: his house can't even sell in Potomac. It's like they

52:45 Speaker 2: won't approve anybody, so it's just.

52:48 Speaker 3: Still sitting there. So like in Baltimore.

52:50 Speaker 2: But the rich people will drive, they will get in

52:52 Speaker 2: their fancy Rolls is. You'll know it's the week like

52:55 Speaker 2: it's that weekend because you'll like be ramdly on four

52:57 Speaker 2: ninety five and your civic and then like I don't

53:00 Speaker 2: I a civic, but like you'll be in it, and

53:02 Speaker 2: all of a sudden you see like a Rolls Boys

53:04 Speaker 2: truck next to like a Fantom. Like the other day

53:06 Speaker 2: I was in Bethesda buying Mawed, not happy any but

53:10 Speaker 2: buying it, and I texted my wife like I just

53:12 Speaker 2: saw three may Backs in the course of ten minutes

53:15 Speaker 2: in Pathesta. They're unrelated to each other. I haven't seen

53:18 Speaker 2: it made back in like decades, like What's going on?

53:21 Speaker 2: Sixteen episode featuring.

53:22 Speaker 3: People, What's happening? And it's just like, I don't know.

53:25 Speaker 2: We decided to go out today and just like have

53:28 Speaker 2: a nice time. But Preakness, Baby, they put on their fasteners,

53:31 Speaker 2: they go in a gamble, they drank the champagne. I

53:36 Speaker 2: have a friend from high school who is both a

53:38 Speaker 2: trainer and a like a horse trainer and a jockey,

53:42 Speaker 2: So Preakness is like their big time of year, and

53:46 Speaker 2: so like they were there and racing horses on the

53:50 Speaker 2: day of the pots that women being there, So I'm

53:53 Speaker 2: actually really excited for that the next episode.

53:58 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well they're actually going to be up because

54:01 Speaker 1: remember this, this was.

54:03 Speaker 2: A different this was a pre Preakness, and just they'll

54:06 Speaker 2: asked us, how is it that we're at an event

54:10 Speaker 2: for k K's event, for Wendy's event.

54:15 Speaker 3: And you know, but what's weird?

54:17 Speaker 2: Is it even weirder is that k was met at

54:19 Speaker 2: when she was like, well, you know when they like

54:20 Speaker 2: to be big, better best.

54:21 Speaker 3: Is that true if we're here first with you?

54:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really, I don't. I don't understand it.

54:28 Speaker 1: But they all looked crazy. They looked like they were

54:30 Speaker 1: all going to very different events.

54:33 Speaker 2: Didn't remind you of like old school Jersey, Like remember

54:35 Speaker 2: like the old seasons of Jersey when not they're not

54:38 Speaker 2: even old school now, but like the early days of

54:41 Speaker 2: Mars Joseph's and then before they got too unwatchable where

54:45 Speaker 2: they would all show up in different and you're like,

54:49 Speaker 2: so are baseball game or like, well what about t

54:54 Speaker 2: o clock from Jette and being like I know you're

54:56 Speaker 2: not about to ask me, tell me that you didn't

54:58 Speaker 2: like my outfit when we got nothing. But she was like, Bravo, editors,

55:03 Speaker 2: I know I'm new here, but roll the footage because

55:06 Speaker 2: a DM like that they did.

55:08 Speaker 1: It was like bing bing bing bing bing bing.

55:10 Speaker 2: I kind of like eight and TiO is like, girl,

55:13 Speaker 2: i'd been DM and you like, you know what, you

55:15 Speaker 2: need some help.

55:18 Speaker 1: She can't dress. I'll never forget that amazing Karen quote

55:21 Speaker 1: in her confessional when she was like, Joselle is beautiful,

55:24 Speaker 1: but man, she can't dress for shit.

55:28 Speaker 3: What's worse is when they walked into it.

55:29 Speaker 2: Okay, so I know where this boutique is that they

55:32 Speaker 2: all met up when he had her legs out, because

55:34 Speaker 2: it's across from one of my other dispensary places. Happy

55:36 Speaker 2: Eddie is so directly across the street from there, it's crazy.

55:40 Speaker 2: It's like right by the ball they have the best

55:42 Speaker 2: bagels next door. I've always thought that boutique was heavily

55:46 Speaker 2: old lady ish, So when they walk in, I'm like, oh,

55:49 Speaker 2: this was just because they were like they didn't.

55:50 Speaker 3: Want to film with the mom. Maybe it was just

55:52 Speaker 3: like local.

55:52 Speaker 2: But when Joselle tells the sales girl, who's wearing the

55:55 Speaker 2: ugliest fucking thing, I've ever seen.

55:57 Speaker 3: She's like, that's cute, that's in the stores. Yeah, let

56:00 Speaker 3: me go pull this top for you.

56:01 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, how we keep getting caught up.

56:05 Speaker 4: But who like she has she has such a bad

56:09 Speaker 4: taste and where I don't know's not being honest with her,

56:14 Speaker 4: Like I don't think I think it's I think she's

56:16 Speaker 4: it's not fixable like I think because it's her core

56:20 Speaker 4: like taste level is.

56:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, like she.

56:25 Speaker 2: Just you know, he's having another kid right now, Like

56:28 Speaker 2: he's oh, really, there's.

56:30 Speaker 3: A baby on the way.

56:31 Speaker 2: He just got married last year, and no woman with

56:33 Speaker 2: the baby is not Oh my god. So shout out

56:39 Speaker 2: to Jaselle's kiss. They just became big sisters. Okay, past

56:43 Speaker 2: the holy whr.

56:44 Speaker 1: Jamal is crazy cheater, shooter, pumpkin eater.

56:47 Speaker 2: Oh he's out there, boycotten targeted making babies.

56:50 Speaker 3: That's all He's no.

56:52 Speaker 1: Jamal. He's such a seeming he's seemingly such a womanizer,

56:56 Speaker 1: but he also is such a champion for humans rights.

57:02 Speaker 3: He said, listen, I'm all about humans.

57:05 Speaker 1: He's like baby preachers.

57:06 Speaker 2: We can say, must dudes balance baby He's.

57:11 Speaker 1: Like because he is always front lines of any sort

57:15 Speaker 1: of like, like yes, protests or anything. And then he's like,

57:20 Speaker 1: but I do cheat on women.

57:21 Speaker 3: That's my one or a woman speak who's really like

57:24 Speaker 3: you know him? And they're like, yeah, so I'm Jamal's

57:27 Speaker 3: baby by the number set. Excuse me.

57:30 Speaker 1: He's like, women have the right to choose, and I

57:32 Speaker 1: have the right to cheat on them.

57:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're men have the right to choose that they

57:36 Speaker 2: want to have a baby with me, even if I'm

57:38 Speaker 2: not going to be committed to them.

57:39 Speaker 3: I think they should tell them they cannot.

57:42 Speaker 2: It's crazy, it's absolutely sud But at the same time,

57:46 Speaker 2: I'm again having the ball because although I am, the

57:50 Speaker 2: confusion is never like it's so confusing that it is

57:55 Speaker 2: that I can't follow it. Like, am I willing to

57:58 Speaker 2: invest some time with Kay and Wendy for no reason? Sure,

58:01 Speaker 2: if it means you're gonna keep having problems with Angel,

58:05 Speaker 2: because that seems to be all that's.

58:06 Speaker 3: Happening is Kay and Wendy fight.

58:09 Speaker 2: But Angel has to prove herself as being a girl's

58:12 Speaker 2: girl as well, even though she just seems like she cowers,

58:15 Speaker 2: and in this group, they don't like that. So I

58:20 Speaker 2: love the fact that these women call people out. I

58:24 Speaker 2: love that we are about to head to an event

58:26 Speaker 2: where there's like we're all just gonna sit around drink

58:28 Speaker 2: champagne and call each other out, and Jazzy's coming.

58:32 Speaker 1: Do I love Jazzy?

58:33 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm about to say, how do you feel about Jazzy?

58:35 Speaker 1: So I really like Jazzy. I was like last season,

58:38 Speaker 1: I was, I really liked her because she was there

58:40 Speaker 1: so much in the first half of the season and

58:42 Speaker 1: then she just like disappeared. Yeah, I wish she was

58:46 Speaker 1: like a bigger presence on the show. To be honest,

58:47 Speaker 1: I think she I think she has she has more

58:50 Speaker 1: charisma than Karena unfortunately.

58:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there are sometimes things like girlies before

58:57 Speaker 2: they can establish themselves, they want the Maryland is such

59:01 Speaker 2: a haves and a has not state that I think

59:04 Speaker 2: that they really do go like do I want to

59:05 Speaker 2: be able to do it on my own? Or do

59:06 Speaker 2: I want the luxury of like being taken care of?

59:10 Speaker 2: Because ultimately that is the goal. The goal is to

59:13 Speaker 2: be Early days Ashley Darby, who was a waitress at

59:16 Speaker 2: the local restaurant near her college town and after maybe

59:22 Speaker 2: a little bit of time with some girls here and

59:24 Speaker 2: there and some other boys, a rich white man walks

59:27 Speaker 2: in with an accent and a little what is.

59:30 Speaker 3: Coin to you?

59:31 Speaker 2: Because you are a twenty something year old a waitress

59:34 Speaker 2: at a restaurant in college, and you're like, oh, tee,

59:38 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and get some of that. And

59:40 Speaker 2: Jazzy is also like, I could play my cards right,

59:43 Speaker 2: get this wedding. Okay, get this wedding, and then I

59:48 Speaker 2: can get on that show and cut up or whatever.

59:51 Speaker 2: But I'm not having anything jeopardize my long term retirement plan,

59:55 Speaker 2: which is marrying this man that I.

59:56 Speaker 1: Stole allegedly, allegedly.

1:00:01 Speaker 3: But do you say, Gryl, I'm all for it. I

1:00:04 Speaker 3: don't care. I'm glad she'll be here.

1:00:07 Speaker 1: I'm happy to see her.

1:00:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, she comes in. Huh, she's got some things to

1:00:11 Speaker 2: say to the girls. You know, they all do the

1:00:12 Speaker 2: Ladies of potomachon.

1:00:13 Speaker 1: I know I haven't thought about at all, but they

1:00:16 Speaker 1: mentioned her this episode was miss Mia. I'm like, Wow,

1:00:21 Speaker 1: she left and no one has thought a minute about

1:00:24 Speaker 1: her when they talked about her.

1:00:25 Speaker 3: That's so crazy.

1:00:29 Speaker 1: The Miami trip, how they were like the last time

1:00:32 Speaker 1: I saw you were at the reunion unpacking. How we

1:00:34 Speaker 1: didn't Stacy and her Stacy and Jazzie were talking about

1:00:37 Speaker 1: her and how and how invited them to Miami and

1:00:41 Speaker 1: that never.

1:00:42 Speaker 3: Saw don't tell them the way.

1:00:45 Speaker 2: I've not remembered that lady at all, who is every

1:00:48 Speaker 2: day trying to like get our attention by dating Bobby Valentino,

1:00:52 Speaker 2: like we give a shit about him anymore, But the

1:00:55 Speaker 2: Shape Room still gives her.

1:00:57 Speaker 1: She's gonna carawl her way on to some reality show,

1:00:59 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, or like what is we still out there?

1:01:02 Speaker 3: Mayor's boot camp, That's what it will be.

1:01:05 Speaker 1: You think that, or maybe you don't think she's gonna

1:01:07 Speaker 1: try and venture on to the Zeus network.

1:01:11 Speaker 3: No, Mea thinks she's good for that.

1:01:14 Speaker 2: She's she's incorrect, but she thinks it, and that's that's enough.

1:01:18 Speaker 2: She is a person that thinks that way highly of herself.

1:01:22 Speaker 2: Though again, I haven't thought about her since she walked off,

1:01:24 Speaker 2: because we were still when she left the show. Stacey

1:01:28 Speaker 2: was just unpacking a fresh set of bullshit. So I

1:01:32 Speaker 2: love I could give a shit about Mia purposely not

1:01:36 Speaker 2: being like you know, forthcoming or whatever. I prefer to

1:01:40 Speaker 2: live in the land of self lack of self awareness

1:01:43 Speaker 2: and delusion, and Stacy's giving us that Kay's giving.

1:01:46 Speaker 3: Us some of that. You know, Wendy's giving us some

1:01:49 Speaker 3: of that, and we don't know it, like we do.

1:01:53 Speaker 2: You think she'd have us a good season if we

1:01:55 Speaker 2: didn't know, Like I'm trying to figure out what season

1:01:57 Speaker 2: it looks like she's having or going to have if

1:02:00 Speaker 2: we didn't know what we know now, and.

1:02:02 Speaker 3: It appears like she would have had a fine one.

1:02:05 Speaker 1: I think she's always been I've never been a Wendy

1:02:10 Speaker 1: super fan. I always find her absolutely beautiful in her

1:02:13 Speaker 1: family's her I love her family, but I've always been

1:02:16 Speaker 1: annoyed by her, like, yeah, pretend housewifery, you know what

1:02:21 Speaker 1: I mean, Like her getting all the work done. All

1:02:23 Speaker 1: that really bothered me because she's telling us, I've always yeah,

1:02:28 Speaker 1: I've always found her to be a little bit phony,

1:02:30 Speaker 1: So I think she's just I do think she's coming

1:02:33 Speaker 1: across even more phony and housewife on this the way

1:02:38 Speaker 1: she's like pretending to be Kay's friend off camera, I

1:02:41 Speaker 1: mean on camera, in reality, they're not friends off like,

1:02:47 Speaker 1: which I think you have to believe on that.

1:02:49 Speaker 2: I saw Kay on Watch What Happens Live after this

1:02:52 Speaker 2: episode of Potomac, and I did understand better where she

1:02:58 Speaker 2: was coming from. When at fourth Wall, you know, completely broken,

1:03:01 Speaker 2: She's like, it's just what's confusing, because it seemed like

1:03:03 Speaker 2: when the cameras are down, she we were cooler, we

1:03:07 Speaker 2: were cool, and we were actually like, you know, building

1:03:10 Speaker 2: like some kind of cool friendship or whatever. But when

1:03:12 Speaker 2: the cameras go up, I'm back to being like a

1:03:14 Speaker 2: newbie friend of needing to prove myself. We don't talk

1:03:18 Speaker 2: have a relationship when that's not necessarily the case, or

1:03:20 Speaker 2: you don't see me as your equal on this show,

1:03:22 Speaker 2: and that's kind of wild. So I can also see Wenny, though,

1:03:25 Speaker 2: pull in like she has to keep everybody close to

1:03:28 Speaker 2: the child like she us to know where she stands

1:03:29 Speaker 2: and established where she stands, so she has an understanding,

1:03:32 Speaker 2: but it doesn't necessarily mean that what you believe your

1:03:36 Speaker 2: relationship is with her is what actually what she believes

1:03:40 Speaker 2: as well. She's one of those people that I feel

1:03:42 Speaker 2: like someone could say when he's my best friend or

1:03:44 Speaker 2: we've been best friends for blah blah blah, and Wendy

1:03:47 Speaker 2: would be like, I've known her for ten years, yes,

1:03:51 Speaker 2: yeah right, yeah, but not friends.

1:03:55 Speaker 3: That's what she said about Angels, so which I'm not

1:03:59 Speaker 3: I agree. I mean in college. I don't know Abouty

1:04:01 Speaker 3: who was a freshman when I was a senior.

1:04:02 Speaker 1: But bother me so much. She's like this is a.

1:04:06 Speaker 2: Vibe that she does carry with pretty much anybody knew

1:04:09 Speaker 2: or whatever, Like.

1:04:10 Speaker 3: I know of never her.

1:04:12 Speaker 2: But also, girl, you hated it when Karen did to

1:04:14 Speaker 2: you all, I'm saying years ago when Kelly.

1:04:17 Speaker 1: I know that is the sad part. She was that girl,

1:04:20 Speaker 1: and now she's trying to be the head housewife in charge.

1:04:25 Speaker 1: It's not landing.

1:04:26 Speaker 2: It's just not landing, and especially now that I know

1:04:28 Speaker 2: what you are needing to do to do it allegedly.

1:04:30 Speaker 2: I'm concerned Wendy girl, but not about my watch my

1:04:34 Speaker 2: watching listen Trader Joe's just put out, put back out

1:04:37 Speaker 2: their maple popcorn, pick me up a fresh bag today

1:04:41 Speaker 2: that we're recording this as a Sunday, so I'm in

1:04:43 Speaker 2: an episode behind it, like we'll be watching a Potomac

1:04:46 Speaker 2: tonight and I will have my snackies as they go

1:04:50 Speaker 2: to the Preakness and they watch, you know, they sit

1:04:54 Speaker 2: and watch the horses and try to be high class

1:04:56 Speaker 2: while reading each other.

1:04:56 Speaker 3: For philth I'm.

1:04:58 Speaker 2: Gonna be calculating. I'm like, Sundays are my favorite nights.

1:05:01 Speaker 2: Like I love Salt Lake City, I love the drama.

1:05:03 Speaker 2: Feels like Peak Housewives right now for them. I'm loving

1:05:06 Speaker 2: the Vortex, But Potomac is like I feel like I'm

1:05:10 Speaker 2: like watching destination television again, like real good TV, where

1:05:14 Speaker 2: something doesn't always need to be happening, but something is

1:05:18 Speaker 2: always happening even when there's nothing. We are preparing for

1:05:22 Speaker 2: an event and I'm having the time of my life.

1:05:25 Speaker 2: I'm laughing as much as the farts in Salt Lake City.

1:05:27 Speaker 2: We're fighting as much as Lisa, you know, being sued

1:05:31 Speaker 2: or whatever, like, but yet the stakes are low and

1:05:35 Speaker 2: that's nice. I mean, but at the same time, Karen's

1:05:37 Speaker 2: in jail at this time, so like I can't handle much.

1:05:40 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's true. I've having a good time.

1:05:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Tom, and I'm also having such a good

1:05:46 Speaker 2: time with you. But thank you so much for being here.

1:05:48 Speaker 2: We're time go and continue to listen to your good time.

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