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0:27 Speaker 1: The things that are going on in our favorite housewives

0:30 Speaker 1: right now.

0:31 Speaker 2: Not so much for those that are underperforming, but we

0:33 Speaker 2: have some really big thoughts and feels about the girls

0:35 Speaker 2: that are performing right now. Put Toma in Salt Lake City,

0:38 Speaker 2: fire from all cylinders. And I am so excited to

0:41 Speaker 2: get into it with you because I know we have

0:43 Speaker 2: some thoughts.

0:45 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited

0:47 Speaker 3: and I have many, many, many.

0:50 Speaker 1: Thoughts, many thoughts.

0:51 Speaker 3: The thoughts are abundant, so abundant.

0:54 Speaker 1: Like most of the charges.

0:56 Speaker 2: On Karen's long list, Oh God, what, I don't know

1:02 Speaker 2: where you stand on like the whole Karen Stand them

1:05 Speaker 2: of it all. And I don't know if I'm a

1:06 Speaker 2: Karen Stand but the Grand Dom I do respect and

1:09 Speaker 2: love very much. And I feel like this season our

1:14 Speaker 2: Queen is suffering, and it really is.

1:17 Speaker 3: It's hard, it's very hard, and but she still makes

1:20 Speaker 3: it funny. So you know what I mean. This week's episode,

1:26 Speaker 3: I just like, just like you, I just finished watching it,

1:28 Speaker 3: and the funniest moments for me were Karen and Stacy.

1:33 Speaker 3: Stacy's not trying to be funny, but she just is.

1:37 Speaker 1: She really is.

1:38 Speaker 2: She don't know why, but it is like some some

1:41 Speaker 2: moments in her confessionals.

1:43 Speaker 1: Even I was watching and I was just she was like,

1:47 Speaker 1: is she is that what we're to believe? She was

1:50 Speaker 1: a shipper? Right? That's it. She just makes me laugh.

1:55 Speaker 3: She like landed in Potomac on this show, and it's

1:58 Speaker 3: like she had no idea. It just it feels like

2:02 Speaker 3: she authentically doesn't know the show or didn't watch and

2:07 Speaker 3: she's sitting there and she's like, what the hell did

2:09 Speaker 3: I sign up for?

2:11 Speaker 2: And it's I genuinely think that she, like you know,

2:15 Speaker 2: may have known Ashley from like the hosting Foxy See

2:19 Speaker 2: kind of world because as she's on there a lot,

2:21 Speaker 2: so she just thought of it as like something her

2:23 Speaker 2: friend does, right, Like, yeah, some of her friends who

2:26 Speaker 2: are part of this fast and these are to do

2:29 Speaker 2: that and she's a TV personality.

2:31 Speaker 1: And she's thinking that like QBC personality and her being

2:36 Speaker 1: familiar with the girlies, is you know, a good housewife

2:39 Speaker 1: make And little does she know she's actually hitting it

2:42 Speaker 1: pretty well. Yeah, it's just it's so indirectly she's not,

2:46 Speaker 1: but it's really I.

2:46 Speaker 3: Think that's why it's good though. I think whenever they

2:49 Speaker 3: don't try too hard and they're just authentic and themselves,

2:52 Speaker 3: that's when it's always really good.

2:55 Speaker 1: A little compelling because a little quirky, Oh yeah, a little.

2:58 Speaker 2: Compelling, because what do you mean you're you're in love

3:00 Speaker 2: with the man that you're not intimate with?

3:02 Speaker 1: Like, but when she just said it, I'm just like,

3:04 Speaker 1: nobody really lives like this except for our housewives.

3:09 Speaker 3: So what do you think about him? Like what is

3:12 Speaker 3: your vibe from him? Like do you think he's Yeah,

3:17 Speaker 3: it's kind of giving. Like remember Kenya in her first

3:21 Speaker 3: season when she had that guy that she was dating

3:23 Speaker 3: and you could tell him really that into her, like Walter, Yes,

3:27 Speaker 3: thank you, Walter, I forgot his name. So it's kind

3:29 Speaker 3: of giving that except I don't think Stacy is like

3:33 Speaker 3: paying this guy or anything like that. True, but it's

3:36 Speaker 3: just I don't understand what his motive is.

3:39 Speaker 2: I don't understand what his motive is either, because I

3:41 Speaker 2: actually believe her, Yeah, say, she really thinks that he

3:45 Speaker 2: is a great guy and that he would be a

3:47 Speaker 2: really good get and she loves being married and wants that.

3:51 Speaker 2: He just wants it with someone else and something different,

3:54 Speaker 2: and I think I don't understand why. Like we get

3:57 Speaker 2: the flashback of him saying like, I'm just not going

3:59 Speaker 2: to sleep with you. I'm not going to do it,

4:01 Speaker 2: and I'm like, that response is not really that of

4:03 Speaker 2: someone who's like celibate for a particular reason or for

4:06 Speaker 2: the right person. It's just a little bit more like

4:10 Speaker 2: it's very not the mirror. It's very rude, very aggressive,

4:13 Speaker 2: like I'm just not asleep. But he was like, what

4:15 Speaker 2: is the yeah, unless he's the one, Like what is

4:19 Speaker 2: the catch? That just sounds like you're jerking this lady along.

4:22 Speaker 1: For a time.

4:24 Speaker 3: And when he asked, when she asked him, like, on

4:26 Speaker 3: a scale of one to ten, how much do you

4:28 Speaker 3: want me? And he said, like the letter what did

4:30 Speaker 3: he say? Like the letter J or something I can't remember,

4:34 Speaker 3: And he's like, that's how much. I don't think about

4:37 Speaker 3: it or something like that. I was like, well, even

4:39 Speaker 3: if you were like just like what you said, even

4:41 Speaker 3: if you were a celibate and you were just waiting

4:43 Speaker 3: to commit, you would like it's okay, you would express

4:47 Speaker 3: your desire for that person. So that's what seems weird

4:50 Speaker 3: to me, Like something.

4:51 Speaker 1: Is so crazy, that's so no, it's shady as hell.

4:54 Speaker 1: I don't like him, but I don't get side.

4:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, from the Karen, the Karen.

5:00 Speaker 2: We're all over the place, honey. No, it's okay because

5:03 Speaker 2: this episode was also all over the place. I mean,

5:06 Speaker 2: this latest episode and the episode before it. It's kind

5:09 Speaker 2: of in tandem. They're arriving to North Carolina, Wendy's birthday

5:14 Speaker 2: is happening. It's kind of funny because even I said

5:18 Speaker 2: in the first episode, uh, why.

5:20 Speaker 1: Are they going to North Carolina? And then Wendy pretty

5:23 Speaker 1: much confirmed.

5:24 Speaker 2: But we all thought in this second episode, which was

5:27 Speaker 2: because Karen cannot leave the country apparently, like allegedly. You know,

5:32 Speaker 2: it makes it hard, you know from our you know,

5:34 Speaker 2: Roney days with Luanne, and it's it hard to go places,

5:39 Speaker 2: jaw You're gonna go around the corner, you know, right

5:44 Speaker 2: cross state lines, but we can't cross you know oceans.

5:47 Speaker 3: Yes, and it sucks because Potomac has They've been kind

5:51 Speaker 3: of getting a lot of heat from the audience for

5:54 Speaker 3: not having good trips, like you know right, They've been

5:57 Speaker 3: getting a lot of people being like, why are getting

6:00 Speaker 3: more luxurious trips? And I think people kind of were like, yes,

6:03 Speaker 3: this is going to be the year and now or

6:07 Speaker 3: d ui.

6:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they got to Panama this year, and

6:11 Speaker 2: I have a special.

6:14 Speaker 1: I think so. I think so it's coming later, I hope. So.

6:17 Speaker 2: I think they go to Panama this year. I saw

6:19 Speaker 2: that in the trailer and I heard some things. But

6:22 Speaker 2: my own family like lives half of them live in Panama.

6:26 Speaker 2: This is not a hilario ball in the moment. I

6:28 Speaker 2: am not Panamanian.

6:29 Speaker 1: That is not a thing.

6:31 Speaker 2: I just my family has chosen to live there because

6:34 Speaker 2: America before, depending on when you're listening to this, America

6:38 Speaker 2: was on some bs a long time ago apparently, and

6:41 Speaker 2: they some people got out right on time, and here

6:45 Speaker 2: we are again, y'all.

6:48 Speaker 3: Know, And it's tomorrow.

6:52 Speaker 2: Depending on when you're listening to this, either today when

6:54 Speaker 2: you're listening, or it's tomorrow.

6:57 Speaker 3: I don't know, but like, well, I'm up we're up

7:00 Speaker 3: here watching and from Canada. I am rooting. I am,

7:05 Speaker 3: I'm rooting, I'll be watching.

7:06 Speaker 2: It is really wild what's going on, and it is

7:09 Speaker 2: please go vote, and yes, everyone take care of each

7:14 Speaker 2: other and like be kind of one another.

7:16 Speaker 1: Just take that with you into the polls. Just saying.

7:20 Speaker 3: Just like how on Potomac they I don't know what

7:25 Speaker 3: I was my transition was going to be. Sometimes they

7:27 Speaker 3: take care of each other. They often don't, but they should.

7:31 Speaker 1: But they should, they will exactly.

7:33 Speaker 2: And so I think that with you know, all that's

7:37 Speaker 2: going on, it's it's at some point they you know,

7:41 Speaker 2: get too good to go out of the country, I guess,

7:44 Speaker 2: and go to Panama. But until then it does feel

7:48 Speaker 2: like we're limited. But it also feels like we're doing

7:51 Speaker 2: a lot with what we have. It's a little bit

7:54 Speaker 2: reminiscent of when Atlanta went to South Carolina during COVID YEP,

7:59 Speaker 2: and they just got in that big house and we

8:02 Speaker 2: were there for some days and a lot of shit

8:04 Speaker 2: went down.

8:05 Speaker 3: I know, And that was a good one. That was

8:07 Speaker 3: a very good one.

8:08 Speaker 2: And I feel like we are pashing some feelings and

8:12 Speaker 2: saying some things and Potomac, like no there's no Bolo

8:15 Speaker 2: or any you know, naked man popping out in knock

8:18 Speaker 2: off chanel, you know, and swimming thingling around. No, but

8:23 Speaker 2: there is you know, Karen and Jacqueline getting into it,

8:26 Speaker 2: people finding out about all of Karen's charges, you know,

8:30 Speaker 2: and what they they're they're they're playing sex and I

8:33 Speaker 2: love it.

8:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, those are the allegations.

8:36 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, no, allogations is more what the

8:39 Speaker 2: public or like the blobs maad be saying. These are

8:43 Speaker 2: what the government has said you need to prove or disprove.

8:46 Speaker 1: In poor it's not just the allege, it is more

8:50 Speaker 1: a charge.

8:52 Speaker 3: Right, And I think like my thing with Karen is

8:55 Speaker 3: that at the beginning of the season, I was like, oh,

8:57 Speaker 3: I think she's handling this poorly because she's trying to

9:00 Speaker 3: like be like you all have to be on my side,

9:03 Speaker 3: and she's you know, setting up the waiter to say

9:06 Speaker 3: she's not drinking and all that stuff, and I was like, Okay,

9:10 Speaker 3: she's she should go maybe down the Shannon wrote of

9:13 Speaker 3: like just apologize, take accountability. However, I would like to

9:17 Speaker 3: amend my opinion after this episode. I think she's gone

9:22 Speaker 3: so far down the denial road that now it's like

9:28 Speaker 3: it's likable. Yeah, it's funny and entertaining. I actually think

9:32 Speaker 3: that's it is. It's charming and she's winning the audience back.

9:36 Speaker 3: I'm not seeing a lot of.

9:40 Speaker 1: Brand dumb.

9:41 Speaker 2: Like she's soaring, so delusional that when she says, it's like,

9:45 Speaker 2: you know, what's all that I've been through?

9:46 Speaker 1: I think it's important that you know, my friends are

9:49 Speaker 1: also around me on the same.

9:53 Speaker 2: Day, And she just feels that way, and I'm you're

9:56 Speaker 2: not going through anything one that isn't the problem of

9:58 Speaker 2: your own making.

10:00 Speaker 1: And too, you're not. Actually I could have died, and

10:06 Speaker 1: yes you and other people.

10:08 Speaker 3: As well, Yes you could have killed someone. But it's

10:11 Speaker 3: like we're like, just like you said, like we're laughing

10:14 Speaker 3: along with her, and I think she.

10:16 Speaker 1: She just such we know that.

10:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's so serious, don't drink and drive all that,

10:21 Speaker 3: but like it's just she does it with such finesse

10:24 Speaker 3: that I just I can't. You know, I'm not on

10:28 Speaker 3: her side for drinking and driving obviously, However, I'm on

10:32 Speaker 3: her side in like her fight with Jacqueline and all

10:35 Speaker 3: this other stuff and me this episode, really, I'm I'm good.

10:40 Speaker 3: First of all, I'm kind of getting good at me.

10:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, the duo is not doing no not they the

10:51 Speaker 2: Green Eye bandits thing. I feel like they are trying

10:53 Speaker 2: to fill the void of Robin and Giselle being that

10:57 Speaker 2: and one I don't believe in there Kim Street at

11:00 Speaker 2: the very least Green not abandons. You knew they were

11:02 Speaker 2: best friends and something about being on Housewives.

11:05 Speaker 1: We love watching friendships do stuff like as.

11:09 Speaker 2: A unit, like even if they're being mean or messy

11:11 Speaker 2: or patty or whatever. We like to see like you know,

11:13 Speaker 2: Tamra and Vicky. We like to see even Kyle and Teddy,

11:16 Speaker 2: you know, fighting over with potato chips in Paris because

11:19 Speaker 2: they don't want to you know, eat carbs late at night.

11:22 Speaker 1: But they like they're funny, Like we like those dynamics

11:25 Speaker 1: and each other.

11:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think that they like I don't think

11:30 Speaker 3: they like each other.

11:32 Speaker 2: I think they know so many of each other's secrets

11:35 Speaker 2: and they have done so many things that could hurt

11:37 Speaker 2: each other that they just kind of have a you know,

11:41 Speaker 2: a blanket, like a blank check on friendship, and like

11:47 Speaker 2: a blanket agreement of like this is just we are

11:49 Speaker 2: best friends and we will do this together and just

11:53 Speaker 2: accept each other's choices, but like they're in it together,

11:56 Speaker 2: but it doesn't feel like they have an authentic like

11:58 Speaker 2: like a like a like to each other, more like

12:02 Speaker 2: a an.

12:03 Speaker 1: Arrangement, and we know me is good for an arrangement.

12:06 Speaker 3: No, it's definitely an arrangement. And it's sort of like

12:10 Speaker 3: there's also there's this underlying like tension and compaciteness, Like

12:16 Speaker 3: when the first thing that Jacqueline does in her confessional

12:20 Speaker 3: is start talking about how Ink was trying to date her,

12:23 Speaker 3: when like that is such a like I'm sorry, but

12:27 Speaker 3: if that was my best friend's like guy who she

12:30 Speaker 3: was with, No, I would not even if she knew

12:33 Speaker 3: about that, I would not be bringing it up in

12:35 Speaker 3: confessional on camera. Like there's no, there's no like real

12:39 Speaker 3: sisterhood between the two of them. I just don't think

12:42 Speaker 3: that they.

12:43 Speaker 2: I think they to so many of each other's secrets

12:46 Speaker 2: and and that's what bonds them and that way. But like, no,

12:50 Speaker 2: I think that they don't want to blackmail each other essentially,

12:55 Speaker 2: and like I just I don't get a vibe that

12:59 Speaker 2: they really like each other. Like Jacqueline also is like

13:02 Speaker 2: I don't want the girls thinking of me as like

13:03 Speaker 2: me as like puppet or Manyon, and we've had that before,

13:07 Speaker 2: but it's more so like it seems like it's ain

13:08 Speaker 2: insecurity that she's kind of projecting like she doesn't want

13:12 Speaker 2: to be too attached to me, even though she came

13:14 Speaker 2: on the show as me is friend of and she's

13:16 Speaker 2: annoyed that that is how people will take it. But

13:19 Speaker 2: you're also acting like me. You're doing me as dirty work.

13:22 Speaker 2: You're also you know, trying to take shots at Karen

13:25 Speaker 2: or shots at Wendy or shots at whomever, and you know,

13:29 Speaker 2: and that's weird. You're doing the same things as she's doing.

13:32 Speaker 2: So of course we're going to associate.

13:35 Speaker 3: And I think this is kind of like a rebuilding

13:38 Speaker 3: season for Potomac, Like you know, they got rid of Robin,

13:41 Speaker 3: got rid of Candae.

13:42 Speaker 1: I think they're sharing a room again.

13:45 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's that too, And I think they're trying

13:47 Speaker 3: to rebuild the cast in the season. But I actually

13:49 Speaker 3: think that going into next season, I think they're on

13:52 Speaker 3: a good trajectory. This season is much better. However, I

13:56 Speaker 3: think next season there needs to be more cuts. I

13:59 Speaker 3: don't want to sound brutal, but I think Jacqueline needs

14:02 Speaker 3: to be out. I think maybe Wendy needs to be out.

14:09 Speaker 1: I could see it. I just don't know.

14:10 Speaker 3: I like her, I just don't know what she's like

14:12 Speaker 3: her to do.

14:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really know what her what she you know, brings.

14:17 Speaker 2: But I also think that if we kept Robin. For

14:20 Speaker 2: as long as we kept Robin, I think we could

14:22 Speaker 2: still keep Wendy if we get rid of Jacqueline, just

14:24 Speaker 2: because it is nice to have someone one on Karen's side,

14:28 Speaker 2: but to to kind of be a little bit more

14:30 Speaker 2: of a voice of reason. Because while they were training,

14:33 Speaker 2: even like at breakfast or something, when Karen is yelling,

14:37 Speaker 2: you know, at Jacqueline because Jacqueline is and then the

14:41 Speaker 2: Mia says something to Jessie because of her.

14:45 Speaker 3: Uh, I like boyfriend.

14:47 Speaker 1: I like her too.

14:48 Speaker 3: I love these I think she's hilarious, fantastic. I like

14:51 Speaker 3: her more than the other new girls.

14:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't, but I think they really did a

14:55 Speaker 2: good job with Stacey, Kerna and and jess See. I

15:00 Speaker 2: think that they cast it very well where we found them,

15:03 Speaker 2: Thank you, very good. But I genuinely think that when

15:08 Speaker 2: she when they were going back and forth, when it

15:10 Speaker 2: was like so, then you can't say like she did

15:13 Speaker 2: the lawyer argument, when then you can't say that it's

15:16 Speaker 2: not defamation when you said the same thing about her.

15:19 Speaker 3: Blood that's true, you can't say that that's.

15:22 Speaker 1: The fame of her character. That's the fame of her character.

15:25 Speaker 1: And someone needs that.

15:27 Speaker 2: These girls got to know that there is a such

15:28 Speaker 2: thing as like all right and wrong sometimes and a

15:31 Speaker 2: lot of it will give you that.

15:32 Speaker 1: A lot will give you that.

15:33 Speaker 3: And then we yeah, and then we can recognize, like

15:38 Speaker 3: there's a logical fallacy happening here, you know, we see

15:41 Speaker 3: the hypocrisy. Do you think, like, what do you think

15:45 Speaker 3: with this whole? Because I'm still very like about this whole,

15:50 Speaker 3: like Mia paternity Gordon storyline, know what to do with

15:56 Speaker 3: this because I.

15:57 Speaker 2: Think, like, oh, to be just as famous as Mia.

16:03 Speaker 2: He wanted to have a career in radio, so at

16:06 Speaker 2: some point he did want some kind of success in

16:09 Speaker 2: this world, and this is just the way that it's

16:11 Speaker 2: turned out.

16:12 Speaker 3: Well, she unfollowed him on Instagram. Did you see that?

16:14 Speaker 1: I think that's great. I think he might have used

16:16 Speaker 1: her during this time.

16:18 Speaker 3: Don't get too excited, though, because then she re followed him.

16:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, because Mia is just trying to get

16:25 Speaker 2: what she wants, but this is not her final landing place.

16:27 Speaker 1: She will get another big dish.

16:29 Speaker 3: That is true. That is true.

16:34 Speaker 1: Well wow, I mean.

16:36 Speaker 3: I can kind of see she doesn't want to be Ashley,

16:38 Speaker 3: but she kind of already is. Though. She was married

16:42 Speaker 3: to a rich guy for a long time and they

16:44 Speaker 3: both walked away with nothing.

16:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

16:48 Speaker 3: That's just just in different They went down different roads,

16:51 Speaker 3: but they both kind of ended up with nothing if

16:53 Speaker 3: you think about it.

16:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, So what do you think about Karen but dialing

16:58 Speaker 2: the girls one? Do you believe that she did it

17:01 Speaker 2: and said something to the effect of.

17:05 Speaker 1: Those girls think I'm with Ray?

17:07 Speaker 3: I believe it. I think I do too. I don't care, Like,

17:12 Speaker 3: I really don't know her and Ray have an arrangement.

17:16 Speaker 3: I think they are just like a marriage of like,

17:19 Speaker 3: I think they're kind of like friends companions. I don't

17:23 Speaker 3: necessarily think they have a romantic thing anymore, but I think,

17:26 Speaker 3: you know, it's sort of like we're not going to

17:28 Speaker 3: get divorced. At this point. Ray's tired. He just wants

17:31 Speaker 3: to like take a nap.

17:32 Speaker 1: I think the energy. I don't think he has energy

17:37 Speaker 1: to do stuff as long as.

17:39 Speaker 3: You know exactly, I don't think he has the energy to, like,

17:43 Speaker 3: you know, keep her satisfied. But I also think that

17:48 Speaker 3: he doesn't want to be embarrassed, so he wants He's like,

17:51 Speaker 3: go out do your thing, but don't embarrass me, right,

17:54 Speaker 3: So that's why she still is like denied till you

17:57 Speaker 3: die when people try to bring things up. But do

17:59 Speaker 3: I think that all that's true? Yes, but I think

18:03 Speaker 3: no one cares. That's the thing Mia and Ashley, they

18:06 Speaker 3: keep trying to bring this up the fandom, we don't care.

18:09 Speaker 3: We know Karen is always out like it's like this

18:13 Speaker 3: has been going on since literally seasonal.

18:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and I think blue Eyes so though, yeah, exactly,

18:20 Speaker 2: I think that Karen also holds some responsibility and that

18:25 Speaker 2: she is making this a bigger deal that the ladies

18:28 Speaker 2: know than it is. It's actually not that big of

18:31 Speaker 2: a deal because as you're right, we don't care.

18:34 Speaker 1: We're actually pretty used to that.

18:35 Speaker 2: It's more like something about like that we're really used

18:38 Speaker 2: to housewives doing a lot. Okay, so especially when it

18:41 Speaker 2: comes to men and women and then they're sleeping with right,

18:44 Speaker 2: So like in this case, Karen, if you're with the

18:49 Speaker 2: driver or whomever missed the blue Eyes no one cares.

18:52 Speaker 2: And it's actually okay if you have some kind of arrangement,

18:54 Speaker 2: no one's going to jump down your throat.

18:56 Speaker 1: But it does.

18:57 Speaker 2: I think the girls know that she's insecure about people

18:59 Speaker 2: finding out about that, and that is why they are

19:01 Speaker 2: pushing so hard to get it on camera, to bring

19:05 Speaker 2: it up, to have snart remarks, because that's the way

19:08 Speaker 2: that they know they'll get they like, you know, hit

19:11 Speaker 2: Karen's buttons.

19:12 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and it's also deflect from my stuff by

19:15 Speaker 3: bringing up Karen stuff.

19:16 Speaker 1: And it's easy to bring up always going to answer.

19:19 Speaker 3: To that, yes, And Karen's always drunk dialing. She's again,

19:23 Speaker 3: she's got like a Shannon thing going on. She's always

19:25 Speaker 3: drunk con Press exactly, So it's easy to bring stuff up.

19:30 Speaker 3: And I so, yeah, I believe the butt dial. Yes,

19:32 Speaker 3: I believe the butt dolls absolutely, but I don't. But

19:34 Speaker 3: I'm like, whatever, it's just another day with Karen.

19:37 Speaker 1: Yeah. And do you believe that these people is she's

19:40 Speaker 1: calling these people and they are We've heard it from

19:43 Speaker 1: more than one person that she is sounded drunk or

19:47 Speaker 1: like she was drinking.

19:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, I listen, I'm not I'm not trying to out

19:52 Speaker 3: anyone and be like you're an alcoholic. You're an alcoholic. Like,

19:55 Speaker 3: I'm not an expert. I'm not you know, a therapist

19:58 Speaker 3: or a doctor, and I don't think people should be

20:00 Speaker 3: throwing that around. However, do I believe she called them

20:04 Speaker 3: while drinking? Yeah? Probably does that equal alcoholism? I don't know. Yeah,

20:11 Speaker 3: I just.

20:11 Speaker 2: Don't know how you need help and go to rehab

20:13 Speaker 2: and that really that really got Stacey's go.

20:15 Speaker 1: She was upset.

20:16 Speaker 2: She was like, yeah, she wait a minute, but this

20:19 Speaker 2: is beyond just like some regular conversation and some gossip

20:22 Speaker 2: about our friends. You're talking about she needs help?

20:25 Speaker 1: Like do I need to be concerned? And I appreciate

20:28 Speaker 1: it that she actually took it straight to Karen and

20:30 Speaker 1: was like the same, just going straight to you. Should

20:33 Speaker 1: I be concerned?

20:35 Speaker 3: Yep?

20:35 Speaker 2: They're telling me I should be concerned and I need

20:38 Speaker 2: you to be straight with me, like you're saying that

20:40 Speaker 2: there is no real case here, and they're showing me

20:44 Speaker 2: many documents from the federal courts of the county and

20:50 Speaker 2: they're like implicating that you've done some really wild things

20:55 Speaker 2: and that you're being like hell accountable for these things.

20:58 Speaker 2: Whether they get this, sister or not there was enough

21:01 Speaker 2: cause and evidence to link you with those offenses when

21:06 Speaker 2: it happened that like, should we be concerned that you

21:10 Speaker 2: should not be drinking because it means the decision making

21:13 Speaker 2: mm hmm.

21:14 Speaker 3: And I think that they like, I think the thing

21:17 Speaker 3: with Karen is like, even if you know she has

21:19 Speaker 3: a problem, it's the same as on OC Like yelling

21:22 Speaker 3: it in the person's face or trying to out them

21:25 Speaker 3: is just it's not gonna help their addiction. It's not

21:27 Speaker 3: going to help them in any way. And I agree

21:29 Speaker 3: with you. I think Stacy seemed like genuinely concerned. I

21:32 Speaker 3: think she was also a little shocked that oh, yeah,

21:36 Speaker 3: that these girls are gonna go down this road. But

21:39 Speaker 3: I mean this is her kind of initiation. Yeah, they

21:44 Speaker 3: will go, they'll go anywhere.

21:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, they will be you're in there.

21:48 Speaker 2: The court reporters exactly, if someone's in a courtroom on

21:52 Speaker 2: their cast, they're bringing it up to the cows come home.

21:55 Speaker 2: They will bring cards about it, they will write rats

21:58 Speaker 2: about it, they'll put it on cookie do whatever they

22:01 Speaker 2: gotta do to bring attention to.

22:02 Speaker 1: The fact that you have done this thing, you are

22:04 Speaker 1: in this court or doing whatever. Okay, So I I

22:09 Speaker 1: totally see.

22:10 Speaker 2: That, and you know, put this episode a little bit

22:13 Speaker 2: of a filler was pushing ourselves along.

22:16 Speaker 3: You know, I was gonna say I felt the same way.

22:18 Speaker 3: It was like the moment, Yeah, but there was a

22:22 Speaker 3: lot of filler, like there was like, yeah, there was

22:25 Speaker 3: a lot of like slower conversation, a lot watching them

22:28 Speaker 3: sit around on the couch and their phones like there

22:30 Speaker 3: was you know, it was a bit what last week's

22:33 Speaker 3: was much better.

22:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, last week was much better.

22:36 Speaker 2: So probably the third episode where they're still there the last.

22:39 Speaker 1: Night, that'll probably be you know, a lot.

22:41 Speaker 2: Better love a good bomb show to start and then

22:45 Speaker 2: kind of told out and so that one, you know,

22:48 Speaker 2: Potoma was really nice.

22:49 Speaker 1: It's going well, it was. I think it is episode.

22:53 Speaker 3: I think like I think it was. You know, not

22:55 Speaker 3: every episode this season is going to be like an

22:58 Speaker 3: amazing They're not in like the sweets bought like Salt

23:00 Speaker 3: Lake City is right now. But I would argue that

23:03 Speaker 3: Salt Lake City has had its seasons where it had

23:06 Speaker 3: up and down episodes too, and it's time to like

23:12 Speaker 3: recover from the sort of like rebuilding of the cast. Yeah,

23:17 Speaker 3: I think that, and I think they're right there.

23:19 Speaker 2: It's like a fifth date, Like, you know, you want

23:22 Speaker 2: some consistency to know it's still good, but you don't

23:24 Speaker 2: need it to be like lightning and things every time,

23:28 Speaker 2: or we got work in the morning.

23:29 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I go to take your word for it.

23:31 Speaker 3: I haven't dated. It's in like twenty years.

23:34 Speaker 2: No, No, I haven't either, but well not in twenty years,

23:38 Speaker 2: maybe twenty years ago.

23:39 Speaker 1: I don't think I was dating yet.

23:40 Speaker 3: Well, let me see, last last time I dated was Yeah,

23:43 Speaker 3: I was seventeen years ago. It was probably the last

23:45 Speaker 3: time I dated.

23:47 Speaker 1: For you. Not what happens I've been say regular people.

23:52 Speaker 3: Have, like, yeah, I've been with the city.

23:54 Speaker 1: Worried about people because we watched so much Housewives.

23:58 Speaker 3: I know, I just me everyone's switching partners every like

24:03 Speaker 3: five years, right, and.

24:04 Speaker 2: Everybody's getting divorced. I think everyone's is getting divorced.

24:13 Speaker 3: Yeah that was shocking.

24:14 Speaker 1: A yeah, that was shocking and a little out of

24:16 Speaker 1: left field. And also we didn't care. Why did you

24:19 Speaker 1: make a whole about this?

24:22 Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you, like, was there I'm pretty

24:26 Speaker 3: plugged in with the Bravo news, Like, was there any

24:29 Speaker 3: rumors out there? I didn't hear anything.

24:31 Speaker 1: No, she was just dealing with her health stuff.

24:35 Speaker 2: Someone thought that the blind item recently that came out

24:39 Speaker 2: a few months ago, was it probably about this like

24:42 Speaker 2: the southern California.

24:43 Speaker 3: Even that it didn't really add much info.

24:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was like okay, so what and what

24:48 Speaker 1: so what?

24:50 Speaker 3: Unless something is gonna come out and she's getting ahead

24:53 Speaker 3: of it, now.

24:55 Speaker 1: That's possible.

24:56 Speaker 2: I think that that security company a over there.

25:04 Speaker 1: I just think that they need I've heard stuff careful.

25:07 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've been hearing stuff ever since we there

25:12 Speaker 2: was a very popular rapper that died of a home

25:17 Speaker 2: invasion at in Airbnb or in a property that was

25:21 Speaker 2: owned and secured by no so ever since oh no,

25:27 Speaker 2: And then remember dear had.

25:30 Speaker 3: With the they came out they.

25:32 Speaker 1: Weren't it wasn't hooked up yet?

25:35 Speaker 3: Well, and didn't they also say? I thought they said

25:37 Speaker 3: later it wasn't Edwin's system. But maybe you're right it

25:40 Speaker 3: wasn't hooked up yet, which is different.

25:42 Speaker 2: Well, I think tiles was that they were like, we

25:44 Speaker 2: had just gotten the security oh yes, because Edwin had

25:47 Speaker 2: done it and it was so good. But they had

25:50 Speaker 2: just gotten a security system and it wasn't hooked up yet.

25:53 Speaker 2: But I do believe like something I don't remember what

25:56 Speaker 2: it is. That car have to go back and rewatch

25:58 Speaker 2: that season. It's been a while. And for why that,

26:03 Speaker 2: I associated her security, hers and a security system when

26:08 Speaker 2: there's robbery too.

26:10 Speaker 3: But well, because because there was people did a lot

26:14 Speaker 3: of people were like, oh my god, it was Edwin's

26:17 Speaker 3: company did it? And then they came out and made

26:19 Speaker 3: a statement. I think it was Teddy and she was like, no,

26:22 Speaker 3: Edwin's company, I guess is gonna was gonna install a

26:27 Speaker 3: new one, but hadn't done it yet, so it was

26:29 Speaker 3: another company or something like that.

26:32 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, but it's looking at yeah, the ladies and

26:39 Speaker 2: the Beverly Hills ladies, like we'll do to keep there,

26:42 Speaker 2: to maintain their status is actually wild. Why I'm not

26:47 Speaker 2: talking about OC right now because Tamra is just so

26:50 Speaker 2: goddamn infuriating. It's hard for me to talk about it

26:53 Speaker 2: without just sounding like a parrot of myself constantly saying

26:57 Speaker 2: Tamra is in the wrong, Tamra is a bad friend,

27:01 Speaker 2: Tamar is trying to manipulate the plot, is right, saying

27:06 Speaker 2: Tamra is bad right now, And there's.

27:09 Speaker 3: Not much life, Yeah, there's not much to add that's

27:12 Speaker 3: what everyone on Twitter, everyone on Reddit, everywhere. So there's

27:15 Speaker 3: really like we all agree, so there's you don't. The

27:18 Speaker 3: only person who disagrees is like Tamara and Teddy.

27:22 Speaker 1: Which the day I give up about Teddy's opinion exactly.

27:26 Speaker 3: No one cares about Ty's opinion.

27:27 Speaker 1: Nobody cares about Teddy's opinion.

27:29 Speaker 2: I saw that they were talking about housewives on their show,

27:33 Speaker 2: and I looked at it and said, now, I don't

27:36 Speaker 2: know what I thought they talked about, but I fordamn

27:39 Speaker 2: sure did not think they were talking about housewives, because

27:41 Speaker 2: who cares about their opinions of housewives?

27:45 Speaker 3: And no, I could not.

27:47 Speaker 2: Think of one thing I cared about less. I actually

27:49 Speaker 2: don't want housewives to go back and Rewatch, that's weird.

27:53 Speaker 2: Don't do that with me.

27:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is weird. But apparently people like they do

27:57 Speaker 3: have a fan base, like they're they're very popular.

28:00 Speaker 1: I am not, I am, I'm not knocking it even.

28:03 Speaker 2: I'm just saying I could never bring myself to listen

28:06 Speaker 2: to Tamra speak in my spare time, and I have

28:08 Speaker 2: no meaning about anything Teddy has ever said.

28:10 Speaker 3: Well, she doesn't do the the OC episodes. It's Erica

28:14 Speaker 3: Jane and Teddy, but Erica Jane basically takes on Teddy

28:20 Speaker 3: or Tamra's Like I just saw a clip on Twitter

28:23 Speaker 3: and it's Erica being like basically sticking up for Tamra.

28:28 Speaker 1: Wow.

28:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like they have.

28:31 Speaker 2: Jane is probably the third out of those two on

28:33 Speaker 2: my list of people I don't want to hear it

28:35 Speaker 2: speak mm hmm.

28:37 Speaker 1: Agree about anything, especially means nothing to nothing.

28:42 Speaker 2: It is probably very misconstrued anyway, Like I don't understand,

28:47 Speaker 2: but you know, people love it and some people even

28:49 Speaker 2: hate listen, and I get that, So do what you

28:51 Speaker 2: gotta do. Tell me a mass hny because I don't

28:53 Speaker 2: have time, but I'm glad y'all have.

28:55 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I don't listen to your commute.

28:57 Speaker 3: You know, if there's ever anything juicy like a clip,

29:00 Speaker 3: it ends up on Twitter anyways, so I always find

29:03 Speaker 3: it there, so I don't have to listen.

29:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what, I don't have any problems

29:09 Speaker 2: with right now.

29:10 Speaker 1: It is so damn good. I don't even know what

29:12 Speaker 1: to do. Salt Lake City is fresh like snow. I

29:17 Speaker 1: love it beautiful.

29:19 Speaker 2: I can never make me hate Lisa Barlow off the top.

29:21 Speaker 2: But also, damn man, what a hard. It's been so good,

29:27 Speaker 2: so good. What's really catching your eye right now?

29:30 Speaker 1: Is it the storylines? Is it the drama? Is it

29:33 Speaker 1: the outfits?

29:34 Speaker 3: What's catching my attention right now is actually an after

29:39 Speaker 3: show thing, which is the whole Bronwyn Lisa Barlow hating

29:46 Speaker 3: each other on the after show. So I'm not sure

29:50 Speaker 3: if if you were all the listeners watched the after show.

29:53 Speaker 3: But this week there was actually a clip that came

29:57 Speaker 3: out on the Salt Lake City after Show where Lisa

30:00 Speaker 3: Barlow claims that Gwen's grandparents thought that Bronwynn had a miscarriage,

30:07 Speaker 3: and Lisa bar Yeah, and Lisa Barlow says, well, the

30:11 Speaker 3: last that they told me that the last they heard

30:14 Speaker 3: that there was no baby because there was a miscarriage.

30:18 Speaker 3: So this clip was on the BravoTV dot com after

30:21 Speaker 3: show and it floated around for like a couple hours.

30:25 Speaker 3: I'm giving you some news, right, and then it got

30:28 Speaker 3: taken down and replaced with something else. Now, Bronwyn says,

30:33 Speaker 3: I do think that that was very hurtful to Gwen,

30:37 Speaker 3: and I do think the grandparents are trying to cover

30:40 Speaker 3: for the fact that they acted like assholes and didn't

30:43 Speaker 3: acknowledge that that got her. So now they're like, oh, well,

30:46 Speaker 3: we thought there was a miscarriage, Like I don't believe

30:48 Speaker 3: that at all. You can tell too when Lisa says it,

30:51 Speaker 3: like it almost kind of looks like she was put

30:53 Speaker 3: up to saying it, like she sort of like like

30:56 Speaker 3: when she says it, she's like they thought there was

30:58 Speaker 3: a miscare Like she kind of says it really.

31:02 Speaker 2: Because why, that's never something that like I would talk

31:05 Speaker 2: about randomly, and especially about somebody else death exactly camera,

31:09 Speaker 2: Like that doesn't seem like even for all, it's a

31:13 Speaker 2: big difference from talking about somebody's like necklaces being from Ali.

31:16 Speaker 3: Express exactly, Like this is a big deal.

31:19 Speaker 1: You don't just say that about that exactly. Like I

31:22 Speaker 1: remember how we all felt when Shaw the Sunset was

31:25 Speaker 1: airing and said to MJ, like, you know that thing,

31:29 Speaker 1: I don't even want to repeat it, but that thing

31:30 Speaker 1: about I know what you mean, you know, you know.

31:32 Speaker 2: Things that she had done, choices that she made that

31:35 Speaker 2: she's allowed to make in her body got willing right now,

31:38 Speaker 2: Oh my god, and she and it was so gross,

31:43 Speaker 2: like everyone has such a deseral reaction to that, like.

31:46 Speaker 1: Why And I think why on camera.

31:50 Speaker 3: And I think that's why they I think Braun went

31:52 Speaker 3: because bron Win saw it and she was tweeting or

31:55 Speaker 3: she put out like a tweet or something to say

31:57 Speaker 3: like her daughter was like that people sent it to

32:00 Speaker 3: her daughter and that Gwen. I don't know wh scent it,

32:06 Speaker 3: but they were really hurt. Obviously Gwen was really hurt.

32:09 Speaker 3: So I think she probably was like, you guys have

32:11 Speaker 3: to take this clip down, which they did so fine.

32:14 Speaker 3: But I don't, like, I don't understand why Lisa would

32:18 Speaker 3: speak on that. I don't understand why Bravo would put

32:21 Speaker 3: that out like I don't I just think that was

32:23 Speaker 3: a bad move all around. But Bronwyn was defending herself

32:27 Speaker 3: because like a content creator was kind of like shading

32:32 Speaker 3: her about it, like saying like, oh, do we believe

32:34 Speaker 3: bronwynn Maybe the grandparents didn't know, and then Bronwyn was

32:38 Speaker 3: getting mad.

32:40 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I was good mad too.

32:41 Speaker 2: That's pretty awful, especially considering as we've seen this season

32:45 Speaker 2: so far, a good portion of, you know, the beef

32:48 Speaker 2: between Bronwyn and Lisa and their contention.

32:52 Speaker 1: Has been her talking about her daughter like you saw that.

32:56 Speaker 2: Her husband was like, basically, don't let me be around

33:00 Speaker 2: these people. They're hanging on by a thread, and I

33:04 Speaker 2: don't like them talking about when period point blank. I

33:07 Speaker 2: don't like it. And we see in upcoming episodes that

33:11 Speaker 2: they might be asked to leave a trip. I can't

33:14 Speaker 2: even imagine a world where Lisa Barlowe is getting kicked

33:16 Speaker 2: out of a trip on TIV.

33:19 Speaker 1: It's gonna be wild.

33:21 Speaker 2: But I also understand so for them to go through

33:24 Speaker 2: this during the season when they were filming, and then

33:27 Speaker 2: to know that what you're saying now that yeah, that

33:32 Speaker 2: there's so much more recent and they're still having this conversation.

33:37 Speaker 2: They're still talking, she's still talking about it.

33:39 Speaker 1: I don't know that. It feels really really icky. I

33:41 Speaker 1: don't like this plan of relevant.

33:43 Speaker 3: I don't like it either because.

33:44 Speaker 1: It's like, you don't need to do it. You're so iconic,

33:47 Speaker 1: you don't need to do.

33:48 Speaker 3: No, she doesn't need to because she's so like she's

33:50 Speaker 3: such a character just like her real social character, she

33:54 Speaker 3: really doesn't need to. But you know what, I was

33:56 Speaker 3: just thinking about what you said because you were like,

33:59 Speaker 3: what's what's standing out to you? I thought of that

34:01 Speaker 3: because it just happened. But what's actually my favorite thing?

34:04 Speaker 3: This season. I don't know if you're gonna like this too.

34:06 Speaker 3: I love the taking down of Heather Gay. I just

34:10 Speaker 3: love it. Yeah, of course I can't stand Heather Gay.

34:15 Speaker 1: I don't want that off the show too.

34:17 Speaker 2: Yes, but I'm not right her too fast.

34:21 Speaker 3: The pompous attitude. She thinks, she thinks she's the queen

34:26 Speaker 3: of the show and she's not. She thinks she should

34:30 Speaker 3: be the boss and in charge. I don't like the

34:32 Speaker 3: way that she's not liking Bronwyn for like feels like

34:35 Speaker 3: no reason. And I love that Mary Cosby's calling her out.

34:39 Speaker 3: I love that bron is calling her out. I'm just

34:41 Speaker 3: I am loving it.

34:43 Speaker 1: I just also and I think that Brown is like

34:45 Speaker 1: such a class act. The fact she needs inviting people

34:48 Speaker 1: to her home.

34:49 Speaker 2: She's like hosting to have conversation, to kind of like

34:52 Speaker 2: have a moment. And I think that's really cute. She's

34:54 Speaker 2: a really socialite, right. It's giving very New York. But

35:00 Speaker 2: I think that it's so interesting that like Heather spent

35:04 Speaker 2: so many seasons trying to take Lisa Barlow down and

35:08 Speaker 2: now she is so upf and but she tried to

35:10 Speaker 2: take her down because Lisa didn't approve of her in

35:13 Speaker 2: season one, right, and from her their past history and

35:17 Speaker 2: schools and things, and now that Lisa is a little

35:20 Speaker 2: bit humbled and a little bit more open, Heather is

35:23 Speaker 2: like ready to take it all in, yeah, and ready

35:25 Speaker 2: to get going and be like all team Lisa to

35:28 Speaker 2: the detriment of almost any other relationship that she has.

35:32 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying I don't like loyalty. It's just

35:34 Speaker 2: like she actually has a history of being so blindly

35:38 Speaker 2: loyal that it almost makes it seem like she's doing

35:41 Speaker 2: that so that when it inevitably comes out that the

35:45 Speaker 2: person was doing the thing that they weren't supposed to

35:48 Speaker 2: be doing, she can fall back on I was just

35:51 Speaker 2: being a good friend. I didn't know I was being

35:54 Speaker 2: a good friend.

35:54 Speaker 1: Now you were.

35:55 Speaker 2: Ignoring signs and you're saying you're being loyal, but it's

35:58 Speaker 2: like you want to be able to say.

36:00 Speaker 1: It's like Vicky with Brooks.

36:02 Speaker 2: I used to feel the same way about Vicky with Brooks,

36:05 Speaker 2: and she was just like, I was just being a

36:09 Speaker 2: good partner. And so when it all flipped on its head,

36:12 Speaker 2: then she was like I was stammed and all the

36:15 Speaker 2: things and I didn't know and I ah, and they

36:19 Speaker 2: were like we all told you, we all said this,

36:22 Speaker 2: he was doing these things like what I was just

36:24 Speaker 2: being a good partner. I was just believing him. And

36:26 Speaker 2: you can't fall back when you're ignorance, being like I

36:29 Speaker 2: was just being blissful ignorance, and so I missed all

36:31 Speaker 2: these signs. So you can't be mad at me. But

36:34 Speaker 2: like Heather, you hated this woman. Well, there's so many seasons,

36:39 Speaker 2: and I.

36:39 Speaker 3: Think Angie clocked it, which is that Heather wants a

36:43 Speaker 3: seat at the cool table. Yeah girls. And I think

36:46 Speaker 3: she didn't really want to take Lisa Barlow down. I

36:50 Speaker 3: think she wanted to be Lisa Barlow's like partner in crime.

36:53 Speaker 3: And now I think after last season and the whole

36:56 Speaker 3: Monica take down, I think Heather thought, Okay, I've secured

37:00 Speaker 3: my seat. I'm the new like Regina, George, Me and

37:04 Speaker 3: Lisa and Meredith and Whitney. We've got our group of

37:07 Speaker 3: OG's and now when the new girls come on, we're

37:10 Speaker 3: gonna haze them and they're gonna have to like prove

37:14 Speaker 3: themselves to us. But that's not happening because Whitney and

37:18 Speaker 3: Angie are not falling in line. So there's that and

37:21 Speaker 3: Bronwyn came in. She's got lots of money, she's got

37:24 Speaker 3: lots of fashion. Mary loves her, so that kind of

37:27 Speaker 3: threw her. So this Heather's planet just didn't go how

37:31 Speaker 3: she wants and now she's spiraling.

37:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, honestly, bron when her fashion is a

37:37 Speaker 2: wild outlandish. I know, I have dogs and they don't

37:40 Speaker 2: poop in my house.

37:41 Speaker 1: I just what is up?

37:45 Speaker 3: I'm not a dog owner, Like I had a dog

37:47 Speaker 3: with like a family dog when I was growing up,

37:49 Speaker 3: and I was a kid, so I wasn't responsible. But

37:54 Speaker 3: most of my friends who are dog owners, that is

37:57 Speaker 3: not happening.

37:58 Speaker 1: That's what walks here for back?

38:00 Speaker 3: What's happening?

38:01 Speaker 1: Let their dogs out in the back.

38:03 Speaker 2: My parents do that, Like they just let their dogs

38:04 Speaker 2: out and like they have a fence and then you

38:08 Speaker 2: like hire somebody or play somebody to come and scoop

38:13 Speaker 2: the poop.

38:14 Speaker 3: Well, I think Lauren's gonna learn from watching.

38:17 Speaker 1: TV my house, What does your house smell like?

38:21 Speaker 3: Well, that's what I'm saying.

38:23 Speaker 1: It's crazy. How are you not bothered by that? Well?

38:26 Speaker 3: She also has enough money all.

38:29 Speaker 2: My design of things. Where are your people? What is

38:32 Speaker 2: going on with that house?

38:34 Speaker 1: Though?

38:34 Speaker 2: How often are we in this house that I'm like,

38:36 Speaker 2: I just now noticed there's like a lot of things.

38:39 Speaker 1: On the floor and not on the walls.

38:44 Speaker 3: I guess because she would maybe she didn't move in

38:47 Speaker 3: as long ago as she's trying to make it like.

38:50 Speaker 3: Maybe it was kind of like Jessel moving to the York.

38:53 Speaker 1: You know, we have a lot of ship on the floor.

38:55 Speaker 3: She's got a lot to go.

38:56 Speaker 1: But then you kind of like that's settled, right.

39:01 Speaker 3: Maybe she also I could see that maybe her and

39:03 Speaker 3: her husband might have like another house somewhere else, and

39:06 Speaker 3: then maybe yeah, and they're just settling not that they

39:09 Speaker 3: don't really live there, but they're just settling in. But

39:12 Speaker 3: they don't want to make it out like we just

39:14 Speaker 3: got here, you know, because then if you say you

39:17 Speaker 3: just got here, you get kind of like eating alive.

39:20 Speaker 3: So maybe that's why I don't know, I'm just making

39:22 Speaker 3: all this up. I literally have no idea.

39:24 Speaker 1: I have no idea, just like it just perplexed me.

39:26 Speaker 1: I couldn't get past it.

39:28 Speaker 3: I agree, But yeah, I like I said, I might

39:31 Speaker 3: have been high, but I.

39:32 Speaker 1: Also couldn't take my eyes off of the wall.

39:34 Speaker 3: I was just crazy. But it's also because.

39:40 Speaker 2: Crazy, Yeah, it's like so vibrant that it's hard to

39:46 Speaker 2: not it's hard not to see it, like it's hard

39:48 Speaker 2: to miss.

39:49 Speaker 3: But maybe that's on purpose. Do you think it's purposefully

39:52 Speaker 3: like since I have such vibrant furniture and art, I

39:55 Speaker 3: keep the walls more blank.

39:58 Speaker 2: Well, the thing was like it didn't seem like she

40:01 Speaker 2: does keep the walls planking because all the portraits and

40:03 Speaker 2: things were just on the floor. The opportunity to hang

40:06 Speaker 2: them up again, they're still like wrapped and plastic, Like

40:11 Speaker 2: what's happening?

40:11 Speaker 3: Well, maybe that goes along with the dogs. Yeah, she's

40:14 Speaker 3: not there as much, so there's not like the regular

40:18 Speaker 3: cleaner in people because something's not adding easy. Something is

40:21 Speaker 3: just weird.

40:23 Speaker 2: No, I think they just got this house as well

40:26 Speaker 2: as well houses and like if they're going to have

40:29 Speaker 2: the film crew and their home, it's going to be

40:31 Speaker 2: that one, you know what I mean, not how they

40:34 Speaker 2: actually lay their heads and feel like, you know.

40:37 Speaker 3: She's not the first Salt Lake City housewife who is

40:41 Speaker 3: like renting a different house. Like, let's look, Meredith is

40:44 Speaker 3: in a different house every damn season.

40:46 Speaker 1: Jan started that way.

40:48 Speaker 3: Well, and where is Meredith She's barely on the season.

40:52 Speaker 3: What do you think about that she's talking to me.

40:54 Speaker 3: She hasn't been around like last season she made such

40:57 Speaker 3: an impact because.

40:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's been very know this season, even with stations

41:02 Speaker 2: that include her or know her, which is weird.

41:06 Speaker 3: Like, is she gonna get Like I guess she's going

41:07 Speaker 3: to get more involved because we saw that clip. Did

41:09 Speaker 3: you see the clip for like the mid season trailer

41:12 Speaker 3: where Seth is like holds up the phone and is like,

41:17 Speaker 3: we have proof beach or whatever.

41:19 Speaker 2: He says, Oh, I'm so ready, I said something like

41:22 Speaker 2: that gets a little bit more involved.

41:24 Speaker 3: Well, I hope so too.

41:25 Speaker 1: I don't quite.

41:27 Speaker 2: Feel the vibes from her, but I don't want her

41:30 Speaker 2: to wappen, but I don't want her to leave. I

41:32 Speaker 2: think she's serious in like a weird, hilarious way, like

41:36 Speaker 2: opposite Mary as well, I kind of like the of

41:41 Speaker 2: each other, and they're going to get it actually doing

41:44 Speaker 2: a thing this year. Yeah, he's doing well, she's getting

41:48 Speaker 2: along early rate, she's having friendship, she's having fashion.

41:53 Speaker 3: You just know that that Bravo paycheck was big. Oh yeah, yeah,

41:58 Speaker 3: like they that Bravo paycheck is good enough that they

42:01 Speaker 3: they sat down and they were like, listen, we're gonna

42:04 Speaker 3: give you this, but we need you to actually show

42:07 Speaker 3: up to work and like do it and you need

42:09 Speaker 3: to defend you enjoy it.

42:11 Speaker 1: And there's probably enough money that she can leave her grandcast.

42:16 Speaker 3: Right, And I think she was like, okay, I'll play. Yeah, yeah,

42:22 Speaker 3: because he's not around, we don't which I think she

42:26 Speaker 3: likes separating.

42:27 Speaker 1: And I think that.

42:28 Speaker 3: That makes are they officially, I don't know.

42:30 Speaker 2: If it's official, but I think that he he's elsewhere. Okay,

42:35 Speaker 2: I will probably made that up, but else.

42:38 Speaker 3: No, I think you're right. I really I think because

42:43 Speaker 3: he's nowhere to be seen, and I think that's a

42:45 Speaker 3: good thing. And to be honest, I remember Mary on

42:48 Speaker 3: another season saying how like she likes it when he's gone.

42:52 Speaker 3: Like I think she's probably like, yeah, like I'm good,

42:56 Speaker 3: leave me alone. And she's just there with her son,

42:58 Speaker 3: right and his quote unquote wife according to the the

43:02 Speaker 3: Chiron thing that said wife and.

43:05 Speaker 2: Quotation concerned about him to the end that situation. The

43:13 Speaker 2: situation I'm very Cuntmary, I understand. I can really feel

43:19 Speaker 2: like she just wants to make sure her son's okay,

43:21 Speaker 2: but she's like afraid to hold on too tight or

43:24 Speaker 2: he'll like slip away, but also like how do you

43:27 Speaker 2: not intervene with something like this?

43:30 Speaker 3: It's very hard because there's really like you know, I

43:35 Speaker 3: speak from experience, like there's really nothing you can do

43:39 Speaker 3: if you have a loved one who's an addict. There

43:41 Speaker 3: is like people think, like I know, there's people out

43:44 Speaker 3: there like, oh, tough love, you got to kick him out,

43:46 Speaker 3: you got to do this, you got to do that.

43:48 Speaker 3: You literally you can do all of that and nothing's

43:51 Speaker 3: going to change. Like it's people will not get the

43:55 Speaker 3: help until they want to get the help. And like

43:59 Speaker 3: newer thinking about addiction does say that, like you should

44:03 Speaker 3: provide love and a safe space so that they don't

44:08 Speaker 3: you know, you can put them on the street if

44:10 Speaker 3: you want. They're still going to be a drug addict.

44:13 Speaker 3: They're just more likely to die. That's actually the truth.

44:16 Speaker 3: They're more likely to overdose, not get help, not get

44:19 Speaker 3: to the emergency room, you know, and.

44:21 Speaker 2: It's ask for help, not feel that sense of conscious

44:23 Speaker 2: concern also, like that subconscious of how their actions are, what.

44:28 Speaker 1: They're doing and the fear that they'll have.

44:30 Speaker 2: Will affect the person that would see them versus if

44:34 Speaker 2: they're on the streets alone, that that doesn't necessarily happen.

44:38 Speaker 3: Yes, And that doesn't mean that Mary can't like have boundaries.

44:41 Speaker 1: Like yeah, and I think she doesn't mean she can't.

44:44 Speaker 3: Have rules and boundaries, but at the end of the day,

44:46 Speaker 3: like she also.

44:47 Speaker 1: Just want some home.

44:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's so easy to say when you're when

44:51 Speaker 3: you're an outsider looking in and like it's not your

44:53 Speaker 3: loved one whose life is on the line, right, Like

44:56 Speaker 3: it's so I really really just emphathize, empathize, and I

45:02 Speaker 3: just feel so much for her. Like those scenes are

45:04 Speaker 3: hard to watch, but I think it's really important that

45:07 Speaker 3: we're seeing, like what the daily life is like when

45:11 Speaker 3: like someone is just out of your control and there's

45:14 Speaker 3: nothing you can do but just kind of watch and

45:17 Speaker 3: hope that they will get help.

45:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, truly, it's really sad because it is it's not

45:24 Speaker 2: necessarily something. I mean, he's already seen some legal issues

45:27 Speaker 2: with drug possession.

45:29 Speaker 3: And he did go to rehab, did he not?

45:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe he did go to rehab.

45:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't mean he's clean, but at least.

45:35 Speaker 1: No, I mean it takes a few tries.

45:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, it takes it takes a few tries.

45:39 Speaker 2: Right, but he's gotten the ball rollings. She's really a

45:43 Speaker 2: good you know, she's a good mom who cares very

45:45 Speaker 2: deeply about her son, and that makes me like crazy.

45:50 Speaker 2: One thing I don't like is when any of the

45:53 Speaker 2: women go after the way that people parent, like is

45:56 Speaker 2: heaven see from taking that to Lisa, yes, because that

46:00 Speaker 2: would have hurt my feelings, even from her to be like,

46:03 Speaker 2: I would have rather you told Angie that's a fucked

46:06 Speaker 2: up thing to say. Then come and tell me that

46:09 Speaker 2: she doesn't think I'm a good mom or that I'm

46:11 Speaker 2: not a good mom.

46:11 Speaker 1: Like that's that's really wild. I don't think.

46:15 Speaker 2: I think she's doing the best she can, Like it's

46:17 Speaker 2: all moms are, and I don't like when they do that.

46:21 Speaker 1: I believe when moms.

46:23 Speaker 2: When she said that, I got cringed because I'm a

46:27 Speaker 2: third grade teacher and I don't love the idea of kids.

46:30 Speaker 1: Being on things all the time.

46:32 Speaker 2: But sometimes there are moments where like it's just all

46:36 Speaker 2: you can do for like the simple chaos to stop right,

46:41 Speaker 2: to have a moment to get your mind in order

46:45 Speaker 2: to get them to calm down, to like just do something.

46:48 Speaker 1: It's a resource.

46:49 Speaker 2: It gets them that makes them happy, and sometimes that's

46:52 Speaker 2: all you can ask for.

46:54 Speaker 1: And I can't imagine needing to like run life in

46:57 Speaker 1: home and be a.

46:58 Speaker 2: Mom and then like also have to like entertain a child.

47:02 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I can't do it. For eight hours

47:05 Speaker 2: of debt. I have a hard time.

47:07 Speaker 1: The children are very hard to please.

47:09 Speaker 3: Right, And we don't even know, like we don't really

47:12 Speaker 3: know how much he's on a screen. It's none of

47:14 Speaker 3: our business business, so what right? And that's Lisa's thing

47:20 Speaker 3: to deal with her godmother.

47:22 Speaker 1: She's trying to do a lot because I also I

47:25 Speaker 1: am hearing her say that she just wants him to

47:28 Speaker 1: have happiness because he's really sad. He misses his brother.

47:32 Speaker 3: Well that's the other thing. He doesn't have someone to

47:33 Speaker 3: like play and interact with as much.

47:36 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, that's why he's on his iPad or something.

47:39 Speaker 2: He is missing his friend and his partner in current

47:42 Speaker 2: in his house, and he's like the stories that she

47:46 Speaker 2: was sharing about her son, you know, you know, and

47:50 Speaker 2: what's happening with his friendships at school?

47:52 Speaker 3: Oh, I know, that was so sad.

47:54 Speaker 1: It's really sad.

47:55 Speaker 2: And I can understand parents who are just trying to,

47:58 Speaker 2: you know, support one son and wanting what he wants

48:01 Speaker 2: to do and support their other son and how it's

48:04 Speaker 2: affecting him, and you know, and it's affecting him pretty

48:07 Speaker 2: pretty bad.

48:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I and I think that all that matters is.

48:11 Speaker 2: That her son feels the safety and emotions to be

48:13 Speaker 2: able to feel, and.

48:15 Speaker 1: That she's providing that. Gives a shit if it's on

48:18 Speaker 1: an iPad or not, like, I don't care. And I

48:21 Speaker 1: bet you that is what makes her a good mom. Yeah.

48:24 Speaker 3: And I bet you that Lisa mentioned it to Angie

48:27 Speaker 3: like in a moment of passing, like, oh, now that

48:30 Speaker 3: Henry's gone, wait with the older one is Jack or Henry?

48:34 Speaker 1: The older one is Jack?

48:35 Speaker 3: The older one's Jack.

48:36 Speaker 1: Okay.

48:36 Speaker 3: She probably said now that Jack is gone, Henry's playing

48:39 Speaker 3: on his video games so much more. It was probably

48:42 Speaker 3: like a passing comment like that, and then Angie was

48:45 Speaker 3: mad at her. So she just latched onto something right

48:49 Speaker 3: like we don't really know, like because how would Angie know.

48:52 Speaker 3: Angie doesn't like it the home either.

48:54 Speaker 2: But it's like the wild the thing that that's something

48:56 Speaker 2: you would latch onto, and that's what she was saying.

48:58 Speaker 2: There's a lot to say about Lisa Barlowe.

49:00 Speaker 1: My god, there is so much, so much to say

49:03 Speaker 1: before I even get to the point of her being

49:06 Speaker 1: a bad mother, like at all.

49:08 Speaker 3: No, what did you think.

49:11 Speaker 2: About the husband's meeting up and their differences, which one

49:17 Speaker 2: we don't get to see positively all the time. So

49:19 Speaker 2: I love it. We took yeah, very nice. The women

49:23 Speaker 2: could take a note.

49:24 Speaker 1: We really want them to, but they could take a note.

49:27 Speaker 3: They come.

49:28 Speaker 2: They It was very sweet that we go from you know,

49:32 Speaker 2: throwing Vita tequila things down the drain to having you know,

49:38 Speaker 2: old fashions and.

49:42 Speaker 1: Potatoes, mashed potatoes or so the mashed potatoes, smashed potatoes.

49:49 Speaker 3: They made me want that.

49:50 Speaker 1: I would lead you.

49:51 Speaker 2: I don't like smashed potatoes. I've had before, and I'm like, damn,

49:54 Speaker 2: these are good.

49:55 Speaker 3: Yeah they are. Well Listen. The first thing I noticed,

49:59 Speaker 3: the funniest thing, and I think what that fight really

50:02 Speaker 3: gave us, which was a blessing, was watching John Barlow

50:05 Speaker 3: try to parallel park. That was probably the best part

50:08 Speaker 3: of the whole episode they did. That's so bad to

50:12 Speaker 3: him that they product. I was like, production is such

50:16 Speaker 3: assholes for doing this. But that being said, it was hilarious.

50:20 Speaker 3: But I'm a little torn on this situation because in

50:24 Speaker 3: one sense. I'm like, Okay, Lisa, why did you have

50:27 Speaker 3: to walk up to Justin and engage him and be

50:31 Speaker 3: like your wife's a liar or whatever. Lisa was saying,

50:34 Speaker 3: like just leave him out of it. But then on

50:36 Speaker 3: the other side, Justin could have just been like and

50:40 Speaker 3: just ignored her and you know, kept it moving season

50:46 Speaker 3: he does. Did you see his little mischievous smile in

50:53 Speaker 3: his confession. I think he loves it. He loves it.

50:58 Speaker 3: He's like he wants to be in the way woman's business.

51:00 Speaker 3: He's you know, I think he loves it. He's so

51:03 Speaker 3: that's why I'm kind of like, I think there was

51:05 Speaker 3: I think everyone was sort of wrong in this in

51:09 Speaker 3: the sense of like John maybe overreacted like the second time.

51:14 Speaker 3: Justin should have just ignored it the first time. So

51:18 Speaker 3: I think they both kind of owe each other in apology.

51:20 Speaker 3: But then I also think that Justin, like the whole

51:23 Speaker 3: like pouring the vita tequila.

51:24 Speaker 1: Out like that was kind of so dramatic.

51:26 Speaker 3: That's like a bit much like can we like he

51:29 Speaker 3: wants to be on the show, he like you him

51:32 Speaker 3: dumping that out that would get that would get edited

51:36 Speaker 3: into the episode, like he knew that.

51:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, because I'm not going to get Yeah, what's.

51:42 Speaker 2: Not going to get you know them longevity on this

51:44 Speaker 2: show is her doing a she Ba Chay and taking

51:48 Speaker 2: things off of you know, wholesale websites from the countries

51:54 Speaker 2: and passing it off as something worth more than four

51:57 Speaker 2: dollars and twenty eight cents.

51:58 Speaker 3: Well, and Whitney wants us to care so much about

52:01 Speaker 3: like who leaked her jewelry line gossip, no one cares

52:09 Speaker 3: or not. Whitney always does this though, like you exploited

52:12 Speaker 3: my vagina, Like she does. She tries to make like

52:16 Speaker 3: something into like this big conspiracy that she thinks the

52:20 Speaker 3: whole audience is going to be into, and it never works.

52:22 Speaker 3: She's just not good at it.

52:23 Speaker 1: It does, it's not good at it. And because Heather

52:28 Speaker 1: is such a Heather goes off of being such a

52:30 Speaker 1: loyal friend, but she's always like Wishy washed it with

52:32 Speaker 1: Whitney and we're in right now.

52:36 Speaker 3: I think Heather's the one who leaked it. If I'm

52:38 Speaker 3: gonna be honest, I think Heather's you know, Heather's the

52:43 Speaker 3: one that found that jewelry picture, probably sent it to

52:46 Speaker 3: a couple accounts from her burner.

52:50 Speaker 2: Lisa also probably just say something in past because that

52:54 Speaker 2: will do exactly. Doesn't even know who she's talking to.

52:56 Speaker 2: She's not one of those women who like Ramona. She

52:58 Speaker 2: doesn't even know she's famous. She be talking yes in.

53:01 Speaker 3: This cast, and they love doing this. This cast loves

53:05 Speaker 3: the social media, like let us like dig stuff up

53:08 Speaker 3: like they're all their whole show is based on it,

53:11 Speaker 3: and they've done a great job with it. Don't get

53:12 Speaker 3: me wrong, I'm.

53:13 Speaker 1: Not receipts exactly all over the world.

53:17 Speaker 3: No one does it better than them. I'm gonna be honest.

53:19 Speaker 3: They really.

53:22 Speaker 1: Stride.

53:23 Speaker 2: I mean, ladies, I'm having a really nice time. Yeah,

53:30 Speaker 2: like cylinders, I have no notes same.

53:33 Speaker 3: I'm even coming around on Brittany.

53:36 Speaker 1: Listen.

53:37 Speaker 2: I'm confused by her, but I'll continue to listen.

53:43 Speaker 3: Like I don't like it, I don't love her, but

53:45 Speaker 3: like ever since she did that heart hands thing, I

53:49 Speaker 3: was like, she's kind of camp, you know what I mean,

53:53 Speaker 3: Like she's a little camp.

53:54 Speaker 2: Kind she kind of I think that she reminded me

53:58 Speaker 2: of and I want to say brand but that's also

54:01 Speaker 2: too easy. But like she reminds me of like oh god, no,

54:08 Speaker 2: she reminds me of like this woman.

54:12 Speaker 1: Who really believes in love and just doesn't know quite

54:16 Speaker 1: how she is supposed to know what it feels like.

54:20 Speaker 1: And she's one of the people who's like, so, have

54:22 Speaker 1: you everseelt it before? I think so, but they say

54:26 Speaker 1: that you'll know when you have it'.

54:28 Speaker 3: Like it's giving she's a little errantp like she's.

54:31 Speaker 2: A little bit not here, and like, how many different

54:33 Speaker 2: ways is this man to tell you he does not

54:35 Speaker 2: want to be with you?

54:36 Speaker 1: It's very clear. I can't imagine that this is the

54:38 Speaker 1: first time if he's saying it on camera, so like concisely,

54:42 Speaker 1: and you're crying, like, but I love you still, and

54:44 Speaker 1: then I don't understand, and he's like, Okay, you should

54:47 Speaker 1: go hang out with.

54:48 Speaker 2: Him, baby, baby girl, Okay, just take that and go ahead,

54:55 Speaker 2: and we should never have this conversation again. You should

54:58 Speaker 2: never see that man again. Each old you go take

55:01 Speaker 2: the hype with that other man.

55:04 Speaker 3: I know he's a weirdo. I don't care.

55:12 Speaker 1: That this beautiful woman will do well back and forth

55:16 Speaker 1: for him.

55:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that makes him he's a dick.

55:19 Speaker 1: It was so weird. What's wrong with the men over there?

55:22 Speaker 1: I don't know.

55:23 Speaker 3: And they don't seem to like do they not have

55:24 Speaker 3: that many to choose from? Like, I don't know what

55:27 Speaker 3: it does. It's like Orange County. It feels like there's

55:30 Speaker 3: five people.

55:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, there's really only like five people. Literally apparently

55:39 Speaker 2: is the only one that's currently available, and so he's

55:43 Speaker 2: the new slate of the group. Oh man, oh my goodness,

55:48 Speaker 2: this was so much problem.

55:54 Speaker 1: Oh my god.

55:54 Speaker 2: I remember doing your show and being like, you know,

55:58 Speaker 2: it was a good time. Oh and it was absolutely

56:02 Speaker 2: my time over at the Bravo Papers. Please tell everyone

56:05 Speaker 2: where they can find you, where they can listen to

56:07 Speaker 2: you and get involved in all the things you got

56:09 Speaker 2: going on.

56:10 Speaker 1: Yo. She does a mean Twitter round up or like

56:12 Speaker 1: me round up. You should thank you. Well, I don't

56:16 Speaker 1: tag people. That's very rude.

56:18 Speaker 3: Well, you can tag people as long as they're not

56:20 Speaker 3: the Bravo celebrities. Yes, that's what I mean, because I

56:25 Speaker 3: get blocked all the time. I'm still blocked by like

56:28 Speaker 3: Ashley Darby basically the whole cast of Summer House. Anyways,

56:34 Speaker 3: you can find my podcast anywhere that you get your podcast,

56:38 Speaker 3: the Bravo Papers and on Instagram, Twitter, I'm at Bravo

56:42 Speaker 3: and Botox and please come take a listen. And you know,

56:48 Speaker 3: I'm hoping that Manny will come back on my podcast

56:51 Speaker 3: again as a guest. And we had a great time.

56:55 Speaker 3: So you can go back and listen to that episode.

56:58 Speaker 3: Come and follow me with all the things.

57:01 Speaker 2: Yes, go and follow her Bravo and boat hooks and

57:04 Speaker 2: the Bravo papers and get into it like we had.

57:07 Speaker 1: A nice time.

57:07 Speaker 2: You see how we like to die, dive deep. Let's

57:10 Speaker 2: figure it out and be like, notice the weird things

57:12 Speaker 2: and go now how does that play a part? Oh

57:15 Speaker 2: my god, I'm such a little actor. It's very clear

57:18 Speaker 2: that study delivered and we.

57:19 Speaker 3: Go in like natural directions, like everything connects to the

57:25 Speaker 3: next thing. We don't even have to force it, which

57:27 Speaker 3: I love.

57:27 Speaker 1: Don't even have to force it.

57:28 Speaker 3: And you know, to sound like blow, but we love that.

57:32 Speaker 1: Yeah, we love that.

57:33 Speaker 2: Okay, on this I do I want to a distance, Like,

57:38 Speaker 2: my god, you can never make me hate her.

57:40 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm so sorry.

57:42 Speaker 3: You don't have to apologize.

57:44 Speaker 1: We are like Lisa and I'm over here giving a

57:47 Speaker 1: Karen a hard time. But also you can never make

57:49 Speaker 1: me hate her either.

57:50 Speaker 3: No, I will never hate Karen.

57:51 Speaker 2: Hugar are in the wrong. But when they're in the wrong,

57:56 Speaker 2: but they're so right.

57:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like they're so good.

58:00 Speaker 3: I feel the same way about like Shannon. Shannon is

58:04 Speaker 3: a fucking mess, but I just I will just always

58:08 Speaker 3: like Shannon.

58:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's having the season and not everybody else.

58:16 Speaker 3: And I don't always agree with Shannon, but I just

58:18 Speaker 3: I even when I disagree, I just enjoy the chaos

58:21 Speaker 3: that she brings and I just can't help me. It's entertaining.

58:24 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Oh my god, guys, thank you so much for listening.

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59:16 Speaker 1: just hang in there, and if you're listening to this

59:19 Speaker 1: after that has happened, I hope that I can bring

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59:25 Speaker 2: Distracting you from whatever it is. The troubles you post

59:28 Speaker 2: this week, you know, all right, take care of yourself, babies.

59:32 Speaker 1: Bye.