Hot Tops and Accountability w/ Mandy Slutsker (Is This Real Life Podcast)

0:22 Speaker 1: Beautiful, wonderful mixologists out there. It's your girl, Moni and you are in the mix with Mony. Oh my god, y'all. I it has been a wild couple of weeks. We have needed joy. I have finally coming out. I'm out of my cave and into the light. And Honey, there's a lot of things happening in this light, Honey, Bravo light has shone and it's shown in some areas that the girls are not pleased that are being exposed. I had to get one of the best to break it down with me, to figure this all out and to really like get into the nitty gritty of the hot top of what's happening in the world in a Bravosphere today, and it's keeping us distracted right now.

1:07 Speaker 1: And I needed Mandy from Is This Real Life? The podcast? It is literally one of the best in TV reviews right now on Apple. You have to go and listen, and if you're already here, you probably already listen. But in case you are not, go ahead and hit that button. But thank you so much meeting for coming back on. How are you doing?

1:27 Speaker 2: You know I'm getting by. It's been a week. I think yesterday in particular was one of the most bonkers days I've ever had in my work life. Yes, ever, I'm sure so I am just you know, like keeping real busy at work and then outside of work really trying to dis see with like, you know, all this Bravo stuff. And the best is when I'm in like a really serious work meeting and I literally just got a text my friend that said, wait, let me find it because it made me laugh. Any insight into what happened with Lalla's assistant, Jessica question Mark, And I was like, Jody, I live for your friendship right now.

2:13 Speaker 1: Thank you.

2:14 Speaker 2: These are the pressing questions of the day.

2:18 Speaker 1: Please does it make me involved with this? I'd rather engage with this. This is also as important like the state of our world and what the heck is happening with Laala and her assistant. Let's die like what because I have questions like I'm not gonna lie, I've had probably egal enough questions about that as I have like what's happening in the cabinet, Like I'm literally like, that's an interesting choice. Wait her assistant did a what oh well, that's a whole lot of nothing that she said. I if she signed an India.

2:52 Speaker 2: Like yeah you know that.

2:55 Speaker 1: What do we think is happening? As if you don't know Laala and her assistant also the co host of her show, give them La La it's gone split lickety and just did not. I guess there was some feedback from listeners. They say that she left without saying goodbye. Look to the listeners, she didn't have a formal departure, one that you might see in like a departure of like, uh, sounds like a cult that podcast shout out to them of like why they separate and someone comes on even if it's contentious and it's like saying goodbye to the listeners and what they've built and all the things.

3:35 Speaker 1: Or I call her Daddy's situation where they hate each other and never speak again and then go on separate youtubes and explain their side of the story in very contradicting ways. But then one of them get some multimillion dollar deal. Who knows? So that has happened? What do you think? How did we get here? Because her video didn't seem like it said too much, but she really wanted to address the fact that she is leaving, but like blink, I'm blinking to inform you guys of what's happening of like that there's something else afoot.

4:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it just sounds like I think Lala did something, and I blame Lalla and pretty much for anything that could go wrong in this situation. Not only what how many months ago did she give birth? And this girl Jessica was in the room apparently, like as Lala was giving birth, Jessica had broken up with her fiance and apparently did a podcast where she went in detail about her life and that decision. So the fact that the audience knows this girl and that she wasn't even given a proper send off is just all sorts of nonsense.

4:48 Speaker 2: And Lala, if you guys haven't been paying attention, the only people that hang around her are her family, folks who are on her payroll, Folks who are her family and on her payroll, and two other people Sheena say because she's very nice in friends with everyone, and Heather McDonald. I feel like there's like it may be Sassy Schroeder and I feel like they bond over parenting stuff. Yeah, but I don't know who Lala's real friends are, and I don't think she has Any because she can't. She doesn't know how to be a friend.

5:24 Speaker 1: She's not a loyal individual. I've seen a lot of people talk about that, and they're right. I think that. The last time that I watched vander Pump, which was like probably the season finale, I checked in and out of the last season, I remember thinking to myself, truly, she has moved around the most in friend groups on this show, like the most in clips and best friends on this show. Like it really like Sheena is really just pined after the Witches of Who and Saucy and like you know, in and out of that, the Witch is off, Weeho has broken up, gotten back together, broken up, but Laila has made her around.

6:05 Speaker 1: She's friends with Brettany, she's friends with Shea, but she's also fought everybody because of that. So it's like one minute she's been best friends with these people and then she's calling them all kinds of things bitches and hose and everything but the child of God, and all of a sudden, it's like I'm done. When I'm done, I'm done. And she really prides herself on being like that really like that quote unquote gangster personality of like cutting people off and you know, doing like whatever she wants to do, And really I find a lot to be one of the most annoying human beings.

6:41 Speaker 1: Like she makes good TV, but she is like a not good person to me, Like I have trouble with her as an individual. So it's not surprising to me one that she did someone dirty, no matter how close you would think you would do your assistant a little bit nicer who's been a part of your world for so long and helped you build this podcast. But we also have seen La La do far worse for far less to people who we thought were she was even close to. So I'm not surprised, but I A'm like stunned and disappointed.

7:14 Speaker 1: But I wish that girl. But ndias don't mean shit. Girls speak on it now.

7:19 Speaker 2: Das mean shit if you don't have the money to back up a lot, And I'm pretty sure Jessica has a lot less money than Laala, and so she has been real smart about it.

7:29 Speaker 1: And Garyl's probably got her email on you you know what, Keep it classy, Yeah, keep it classy. I'm glad she left, and I'm also glad that she addressed the fans on her own. You know terms, because I'm sure they had a lot of questions and they're gonna eat Lalla up for this anyway. So it's all okay, Like it's gonna be fine because the people are all the streets are already already rumbling of what happened. They're already trying to figure it out. They're already saying, if anything happening is probably La La, it is that fault for being a bad friend.

7:59 Speaker 1: So, but to go from someone being in the room when you gave birth, which is an incredibly intimate experience, to firing them like a couple of weeks later and like kicking them off like they never existed.

8:11 Speaker 2: What if Jessica got a new opportunity and was like, oh my god, I can't turn this down, but I'm kind of like growing out of being your assistant, and Lala was so pissed that she couldn't like find it within her to congratulate her and look for a new assistant, you know.

8:29 Speaker 1: A normal person.

8:30 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I one hundred. I mean it could be something as simple as that, or it could be as sillacious as this girl Jessica hooking up with her brother Easton.

8:41 Speaker 1: That would be amazing if.

8:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, people who listened to the podcast were saying that Jessica and Easton had incredible chemistry.

8:48 Speaker 1: Oh oh, maybe they have incredible chemistry. But I also felt like if that was a thing, or if there was like a real big scandal that made someone else look bad, we would hear about it from Lalla. She will definitely let us know and that she is not the issue and it is not her fault because that train's never late with her. But I can absolutely see the assistant thing that actually sounds a lot like Lawa's personality, which is like very not Kim Kardashian of her, which is usually the realm that she's going for of entrepreneurship in that kind of way and taking to Kim k route in more ways than one.

9:25 Speaker 1: But like Kim, Justin's those girls on their way and then they become famous on their own and everything else, and you wish them well and that's it, Like you put on your show and they go off.

9:35 Speaker 2: People up.

9:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, Justin Sylvester, but Kyle Richards, look at where Justin is now. Look at when we met Justin in Kyle's kitchen, but she was hording Portie and now he is like he is actually one of the I think co hosts of Ladyland, which is like this big Lady Gang. The Lady Gang podcast is like doing this big festival thing, and and Arianno Maddix is one of the headliners along with Stacy Schroeder, which I found interestingly delightful.

10:08 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, wow, they're both like best friends with Katie exactly. They definitely see each other and like know about each other, and I think both with God I can't talk today, wish each other well. Like I don't know if they're best friends, but I think they very much respect each other.

10:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm glad they do now. One thing, Ariana has always been pretty sure of herself and Stossy spent most of her vand Front Rule's career being pretty insecure and so and that, and it showed in all the ways and so they never really got along. So them being like cool now even not as like also parents is really interesting. And I kind of like that they're growing into this, that they're they're grown up now. And you know, I'm not gonna I don't really want to spend a lot of too much time on Stacy Schroder because she's not I'm not her biggest fan at all, but she did get a big new podcast deal, and I think that's really cool that she is able to make something of herself.

11:02 Speaker 1: Like her look, she's turned that basic bitch personality that they used to call her out for into an empire. And you know, listen, do it, do it girl, get that coin. I don't even know what the other guy's doing anymore, but who cares?

11:17 Speaker 2: And I will say her assistant has been with her for ever. Oh yeah, they're like best friends. I mean the assistant is like she loves that girl low French.

11:30 Speaker 1: Yeah m hm, sure, that's the whole that's the difference. Yeah, oh my gosh. So that's like, you know, they're not on TV right now, but it's been pretty interesting to see what's gonna happen with Vanna Pump. I know that there's rumors and rumblings that the next season is going to start filming soon, but it has been on a pretty hefty pause, an unofficial hefty pause where it seems a little bit like even the cast is kind of like quote unquote begging for them to come back, like wow, we really should get started, or there's so much happening in our lives.

12:04 Speaker 1: You know that the cameras are late when Sheena lets us know that so much is happening and there's just so much and we should be you know, all together, look at us hanging out. Want to come film this. But the chemistry and the timing and the ratings. Bravo is really not doing well in ratings right now.

12:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, not good.

12:26 Speaker 1: I blame New York.

12:29 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure. I mean a lot of times people don't know who don't watch Bravo regularly, like don't know when a new season starts. So I have some friends who watch Saltlake, right a bunch of gay guys. All they watch is salt Lake, and they didn't realize that the new season had started to be like, hello,

12:49 Speaker 2: it's incredible watching again, don't yeah, and yeah, so they're back.

12:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, I'm I mean a lot of black Aunties watch Potomac and only Potomac, and that only in Potomac after they were only watching Atlanta for the last fourteen years or whatever. So they and they don't know because they're doing you know, Sunday night things, and I have to be like, yeah, I'm watching Potomac. It's like oh what the girl's doing these days, and like, oh, it's a new season. I'm like, you got to get on there. And they're not going back and catching up. They're just kind of, you know, catching it as they catch it and then telling me it's riveting, Like have you seen Potomac this year?

13:30 Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, I have actually, And I love getting those texts. I love it when people text me and they're like, oh my god, did you see wrong ones, yes, tell me, give it to me right now, meeting what is it? I love when people catch up, Oh my god, Okay, the big thing that has happened, the biggest fish this week. I cannot even figure out anything else. I can't even lead into it anymore with anything else else. I've never ever talked about this girl kindly on this show, and just I don't speak about her.

14:08 Speaker 2: Oh you just don't talk about her.

14:09 Speaker 1: I just do not because there's not much to say. But today, of all days, there is a good amount to say about Teddy Melancaan, John Cougar's daughter. Wow. Wow, Wow, what is it? What did you find out? Like what information hit your eyes first that made you know like what's happening? Because I remember seeing your story, So what did you see.

14:37 Speaker 2: So well, this is something that I know from a while ago, is that I've listened a few times to her podcast, and it's not bad her and Tamera, especially when they're not talking about things relating to themselves, right like when they're commenting on others, it's actually it's more interesting and they provide like some background about what it's sort of like when you're filming and what happens. Like his context, Teddy mentioned that her first season on the Real House was of Beverly Hills, that Edwin had been cheating on her, and she never shared that publicly on the show.

15:11 Speaker 2: That so if she says, if you go back and you watch her scenes, there's this like underlying tension, and it's it's because of that. Now it sounds like in recent days more has been uncovered about that cheating and that that affair that he may have had may have been over a year long, so a really serious offense in the marriage. They stayed together, decided to work it out, and then now you know, they had another child, right we all saw her pregnant and boring on the show, and then I guess in recent months she had decided to have an affair with a horse trainer.

15:54 Speaker 2: She is a horse rider, she's a you know, equestrian. And this guy is also married and his wife was pregnant with their second child and delivered that second child alone without her husband because he was off gallivanting in Florida with none other than Teddy Mellencamp.

16:19 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, so that's all too, That's what I saw.

16:24 Speaker 2: I don't know how much of it is accurate, but I did talk to someone who is friends her and was like, I think it happened.

16:33 Speaker 1: So the equestrian community I'm also hearing is very small and randomly. I have a few friends who are intently tied into the equestrian community this time.

16:46 Speaker 2: I have a friend who is too, but.

16:49 Speaker 1: If she knows their actual field of life, one of them married a jockey. Like it's a whole thing equan sciences and they're like horse trainers and things like that, and don't watch housewives. So I knew to do my due diligence, it'd be like, yeah, no, let me see, was there a thing and what is going on? And I too have some pretty confident sources that say like.

17:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, me, yeah, the thing. I do feel bad for Teddy about is that she has been battling cancer for a number of years and she has very serious melanoma. So she has had I don't even know, like maybe sixteen melanomas remove something absolutely wild, but it really is a life threatening illness. And so I know that it's been really tough, and I think she's been very brave to speak out to show her body and its scars. And you know, I'm sure if she's not receiving that support at home, she's looking for that love and support or elsewhere.

18:00 Speaker 2: And you know it sounds like Edwin and you know how he's really religious, like you know, so I always feel like it's the people who are like all about their weird churches offense, but like that are doing the stuff that Christians aren't supposed to do, right, Like can't you just like mind your own business, Like why are you going around telling everyone that they have to behave a certain way and act a certain way and all that, and then you are cheating on.

18:29 Speaker 1: Your wife for a long time. That's so crazy. Yeah, it's like morality police, Yeah, exactly. So many different documentaries and had conversations with regular people who they let their religion be the guide of their moral compass, which fine if that's for you, but then don't really follow it themselves. And I'm like, that's so interesting, so interesting, it is interesting, and you know, I will say that, you know, cancer is very serious. I think that I feel really badly for Teddy in that I've actually been the only reason I still followed her is because of that journey.

19:04 Speaker 1: I want to know how she was doing. I remember her daughter, when she had her daughter, that was there was a lot of medical complications there, and I wanted to make sure that her daughter, Dove I think, was you know, also good like that, you know matter. I think she's a great mom. I just think she made a terrible housewife. I didn't like her as a housewife, but I like her as a human being. And I hear because she is really good on their show, like on their podcast, and it's yeah, interesting.

19:30 Speaker 2: I think she's a decent person. Like I don't think she's a and I don't like to label people as like good or bad. I just I don't think she is this like terrible human being, right. But what kills me is that she made the statement saying that she's divorcing Edwin. It was not a joint statement. It was not like please respect her privacy. At this time, I thought I was on our kids up. I thought that too, right, And then.

19:56 Speaker 1: Look it was so I've decided to leave.

20:01 Speaker 2: Yeah wait, but not only that. Apparently the horse trainer's wife found out and confronted, and then Teddy was like, I promised it won't happen again. That's an insane thing to like, what do you mean you promise it won't happen again? Like you're all done? Like f you all? Like that's what I would do? Are you kidding me? And the other thing that made me laugh is like she keeps saying, like, are my kids are my priority? Were your kids your priority when you were in Florida fucking this other person's husband?

20:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, like they were you thinking about your kids and the impact that it would have on them? No, Like, what do you mean who's watching your children? Is you just like leave Edwin all the time and keep running around and having this affair. It's just crazy to me.

20:51 Speaker 1: It's crazy because and also to make it seem so one sided to release that statement ahead of time, it's like it really gave like let me get ahead of this in whatever way that I need to, but also it formulated a narrative that I'm pretty sure she knew was formulating that we were like what did Edwin do? Whether you knew he was having an affair or not, You're just like this seems very much, so like I have to go. Yeah, I've given it all I can. I can't give any more, and I would like to leave. But like you're doing the dirty thing so and you're not thinking about your kids then, so why should I respect your privacy during this time?

21:27 Speaker 1: You're also not an infamous person.

21:30 Speaker 2: And I also I don't think anyone was currently cheating, Like I think this happened like eight years ago or something like like a while ago. Chose exactly like you chose to stay. You guys recommitted to each other, and then you stepped out, Like I don't know. All of it is just like why, I don't know why is it so hard for people to I get it when you have children and everything, But like, if you want to step out, why not just end it? Like isn't that an indication that your marriage is over? If you want to step out and you had committed to monogamy to begin with.

22:07 Speaker 1: Yes, especially by I don't know, having a pregnant wife and a baby.

22:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was That's that's insane, right, And it just shows me that I just feel like so many couples have kids to try and save a marriage, and I just think it makes it worse, like it does.

22:26 Speaker 1: And my mom, my mom has often you know, told me that, like you know, people think that she's she stayed with my dad for the kids, and I often, like me and I often like to remind people that as a kid of parents who are divorced, I'm much happier after they were no longer together. The years where they forced it and strained it for my benefit were the worst years of my life. So I want to go very far, far, far far away from home. So I highly suggest not staying together for the kids. That's why, Stacy, I have some questions for you about what you think you're doing is best for your daughter over because.

23:04 Speaker 2: Yes, stand mail, Oh my god, and this girl is eight. It's not like she's two, right, she knows, she's not dumb, she knows what's going on as an.

23:14 Speaker 1: Educator of eight and nine year olds. Let me tell you something I tell y'all all the time. Your kid's telling you. Your kids talk about you. They do. They tell me all the things and I put them in my teacher group chats and I send it and I put it on the podcast and the memes and stuff. Your kids know what's going on, they just do so and like and we'll get to Stacy in a second, but like for the purposes of the kids, like they know what's happening. So whether or not, like whatever, I don't. I just really want to know what you're framing it in front of your kids.

23:46 Speaker 1: Study misaccountability coach with an a company, and I'm sensitive. I think I'm sensitive to that also because I'm an ed survivor and I'm still constantly in recovery and that has been really really hard, especially with being one different weight loss management things and like that kind of stuff. So it's it's it's like her program is very triggering I know for a lot of people who do who are recovered eadie or want to uh you know, lose weight in a in a way of being accountable. And I've always liked that about her.

24:18 Speaker 1: I'm like, accountability is something I have an issue with internally. I know is probably why I don't like her because I don't like being held accountable, so show her. That's where we like agree to disagree. Our vibes don't match. But also, if you're going to be an accountability coach, don't have an affair on your husband while he's like.

24:38 Speaker 2: No, I'm only accountable to eating five hundred calories a day.

24:42 Speaker 1: Exactly having a perier is not what I'm looking for in accountability. It's someone who knows that they have messed up and knows how to get back on the horse or no pun intended, or like how to figure out a solution or figure out another way, or how to make amends, like any of those things. But no, we jumped to a statement that nobody asked for, very randomly, and then a non statement. Did you see that? A non statement when everybody is asking for one when we all find out And I think she said something like when they're like committed to putting you in the darkness, you just got to like find your light or something like that, something real ridiculously on irrelevant.

25:28 Speaker 2: Maybe her and her boyfriend are stepping into the light as a couple.

25:32 Speaker 1: Right, file the papers. It's not hard.

25:35 Speaker 2: Wait where the papers not filed? I thought they were when she put that message.

25:40 Speaker 1: Probably, but I mean, like, just like do the thing, like make it official.

25:43 Speaker 2: Oh you know what else I heard? I heard she rushed to file before he could file, so that he couldn't file based off of infidelity.

25:53 Speaker 1: Oh love that. I'm not gonna lie.

25:57 Speaker 2: And Ralph okay, I really am so insane. People are just wild and you know what, like, what is the point was this teddy when we were interested in watching the real this one?

26:12 Speaker 1: This is a county mess. I love her. I'm not gonna lie. Just own it. Own it, baby, like owne it like you're you made a mess. You're in a messy situation, girly, we love mess. This is fine. Let's figure this out, Let's talk about it and go on your podcast, and don't make excuses like I heard I did not listen. Did you listen to they addressed it briefly.

26:36 Speaker 2: I listened to like a minute of it or whatever was posted on the people's instagram.

26:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like I already knew from the first five minutes that it wasn't gonna be what I wanted it to be, which really was just accountability. Like I don't need you to dog him. I don't need you to say anything like I love what I was doing. I just want you to be like, people make messes, and you know, if you are going to share so openly that he cheated before.

27:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, she wasn't super open about it. I mean she said like we were dealing with infidelity on that first season and chose not to share it and that kind of thing. So I mean, I because she wants probably custody of her kids and something out of that marriage, right, I think she has to keep her mouth shut, and I think it would be really damn stupid to talk about a divorce publicly.

27:29 Speaker 1: I think she should finalize everything before she even says another word or does another thing. I'm pretty sure she is her focus.

27:37 Speaker 2: No, I think she's made what she said made total sense. It was like, I'm not really talking about this. I'll say more at some point, but right now.

27:45 Speaker 1: I be better And Bravo, don't just give it to her openly, like let her at least go auditional watch what Happens Live or something first, but it'll go home with Amy Sue Again. I hate Hammer so much. I'm sorry it has been keeping me up lately.

28:00 Speaker 2: Rely. I so I'm not a fan of Tamra, but I do feel like she may be a necessary component of OC. However, I feel like people are finally realizing the kind of mess that she has pulled, and I really want next season for her to be held accountable by a number of the folks on the cast and.

28:20 Speaker 1: Love them too, but yeah, that.

28:22 Speaker 2: Would be an interesting season to watch, to be like, we see what you're doing, this is what you're doing. You're doing this in order to bring up this topic so that one of us says that and then we focus on this other area instead of you and all the mess that you make.

28:36 Speaker 1: But also like, do we think we've done that before with Camra or no? Which I feel like, why was she running away?

28:45 Speaker 2: Oh that was a long time ago.

28:46 Speaker 1: Yes, being confronted with truths about herself.

28:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, she, which is crazy, has.

28:56 Speaker 1: Been an accountability coach.

28:58 Speaker 2: The thing is that is is that she gets hurt, right, So she's like, don't talk about my daughter, my relationship or my non relationship with my daughter, my daughter, right, and she and she feels very deeply hurt by other people bringing it up. So why doesn't she understand that she can hurt others? But this is what's so wild like if you get hurt, don't you know that feeling? And then someone's like, hey, you know that feeling something that you said made me feel that way. It's it's and it's the most like ineffective, Like it's it's been so tough watching her with Shannon because it's nothing like what anyone would recommend an alan On And if you believe that your friend is an alcoholic, then go to an alan On meeting.

29:45 Speaker 2: Deal with it that way. Don't scream at her and then not going to Yeah, it's not going to fix the problem. If that's indeed what the.

29:54 Speaker 1: Problem is, tell them that you're also like siding with John and all these things. And I made a point. Someone made a meme. I'm sorry, I forget who it was. And I remember commenting like, you would think that the woman who spent so much time telling us that, oh, being you know, sued for what we said was like the worst thing in my life. It was the worst. It was so financially draining and it really caused a lot of turmoil. I don't even remember why I was saying that. But Timmy did something.

30:26 Speaker 2: And oh her and.

30:28 Speaker 1: Spending someone a season desist.

30:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, so but her and Shannon got sued by Jimbalino for correctly stating that trampoline parks are dangerous for children.

30:41 Speaker 1: They are, and how many don't go now or are?

30:44 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's the actual official policy of the American Academy Pediatrics that like, trampolines are bad basically and to cause it. It's not worth having one. It's not worth bringing your kids to trampoline parks.

30:54 Speaker 1: Like especially a part of just like open bouncy floors.

30:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I mean the amount of kids that have you know, had like extreme disability as a result of things going wrong. So you know, eventually they won that lawsuit. They did not defame him by correctly stating that there are issues with this type of park that he uses as a business, Like, it does not defaming his business. It's like publicly acknowledging acknowledged. Yeah so, but but it's crazy that they didn't the attorney's fees didn't have to get paid by him.

31:35 Speaker 1: Oh that's what it is. Tamera sent a cease and desist to the Bravo babee. Oh I don't understand. Okay, I don't know inherently, and I don't have any money. So allegedly deep alleged the Bravo Babe like turned out some proof that Realcity blurb, which is a very popular, very big social media presence.

32:05 Speaker 2: If there was no proof, anyone can manipulate set. No, it's like an It's an easily manipulatable website. It's like more so than Wikipedia, like you can just go in and change stuff, like someone could just go make up that Tamera is somehow involved in whatever that side is, but there's literally no proof what. There's nothing that annoys me more than when people say that they have receipts and those are not actual receipts.

32:32 Speaker 1: Yes, I know. It's it's like similar when there was a finder on Potomac and I didn't get to we didn't get to see inside of it. There have been giant screenshots and they didn't deliver the right way, or in King's case, like we've printed things that get us fired because they were a little too far. And then of course I think that really they just wanted to have their receipts proof timelines moment of it's another Bravo LB quote unquote, which Monica was really not a Bravo LB. It's also a in the inner workings of like the Bravo fandom community.

33:10 Speaker 2: There are a lot of things to criticize Tama for. This is not one of them. And I think it says more about the content creators that are trying to put themselves into the storyline and cause drama and pick fights with Bravo lbs so that they can be the ones that are talked about. And they think any attention is good attention. And I, for one just want to watch my Bravo lbs have their issues. I don't want to see content creators like in the mix, like the up and atom stuff on Salt Lake is messy. I'm not into it, this Bravo babe, Like, I'm just not into it, Like stop, you know.

33:47 Speaker 1: Thing to happen to my Salt Lake girls. I just want them to be like again, like you said, a ton of stuff we can go for Tamba about and I'm rah at charge. But and I think the thing is that she's threatening some cease and desists, which doesn't actually mean that there was any like there's any legal action as of yet. But it's interesting how we know about the cease and desists is because of TikTok or you're not Sea single desisting.

34:16 Speaker 2: So I'm just like, huh, camera threatens legal action at like tons of content creators, and most of them just get scared because they don't have the funds to be able to fight a lawsuit. But the truth is she doesn't really have standing in most things. However, she could bring certain lawsuits and like waste her money on things like that. But most of the time, I think she's just trying to scare people from talking. And sometimes people should be scared about what they say and think a little bit more carefully because they could be defaming someone.

34:53 Speaker 2: But most of the time, I think she's just been an asshole, and you can tell her that and you can fine. I mean, it's so easy in DC to be like find a lawyer, because like every third person.

35:04 Speaker 1: Here is a lawyer.

35:06 Speaker 2: Everybody you can get just to like look at it, and they could be like, oh, this is this, this and this, Like you can just tell them blah blah blah blah blah. They could you know, write a legal letter back to her that makes it sound like you got counsel and you know, like it's yeah.

35:23 Speaker 1: But honestly, Tamra, I will say, and it's just because I can't there is not a day that goes by that I don't try to point out a flaw in Tama's personality as a human being. But you can at the very least say like, this isn't actually deaf faming you, it is maybe incorrect. That is something that there have been worst things said about you by other people than you were being tied to a blog. And I'd like you to actually focus on those interpersonal relationships that are around you and spend our money there, spend our time there about how we've been a bad friend.

35:59 Speaker 1: Because if this is defamation, then what the hell are you doing to shann Right? I mean and go god this season.

36:08 Speaker 2: The standard for defamation that is completely different if you're famous.

36:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.

36:13 Speaker 2: So the whole thing is just stupid. And you know, if you see someone tweet something about you that's not true, Number one, why the hell are you on Twitter? Like, if it upsets you, get it off, get off it, and then or you can just reproaly be like this isn't true bullshit and then done that.

36:29 Speaker 1: She's like the promise of even other publications, she'll just comment and be like okay, I'll let you someone almost like I can't wait for her air to blow out of steam or something like that. And she said, I'll let you know when I retire, And I was like, Hueen.

36:42 Speaker 2: Love it right. You don't need to take, you know, become litigious. All you have to do is just like comment and say something's true or not true.

36:50 Speaker 1: And it's not true and move on. Move on, y'all. She also has a plot a platform where she can talk as much shit as she wants, like openly, so she uses that just fine. I don't think she needs to have like an Instagram account or anything else. Is she a part of it? Who knows? Who cares? I doubt it. I don't think she has the creative the creativity. She has the opinions and that's why she's on Two Peas and the Bad and they're like the number one podcast. So I think she's, you know, doing just fine. But Tamra as also I say this, like I tell Nicki Minaj, get off the internet.

37:27 Speaker 1: Some people are just too famous to be engaging with the people who are famous. It doesn't go well, ever, Just don't worry cause.

37:36 Speaker 2: Nick make Is just has terrible instincts.

37:41 Speaker 1: She does, but also so does Tamra. So I need them to sit down and get off of Twitter and off of Instagram and stop making stories and posts and just live their rich lives. Just live it. Go to the snow and ski mountain. Okay, not a great transition, but like, what in the hell is going on? And put first of all, Stacy is a queen. I love these newbies. They are delivering for me in so many ways indifferently, like Stacy is full of personality even though she's just like a QVC host personality, like she gives me very much QVC host, but I also am really enjoying her energy around the ladies and just like her quirkiness.

38:23 Speaker 1: A lot of questions. Kierna is probably one of my top paves of the last couple of years. And Jessie. I just have a lot of questions about Jassy.

38:33 Speaker 2: I have the most questions about.

38:34 Speaker 1: I'm just like around, I want to know what's cook it?

38:39 Speaker 2: Yeah no, all the stuff about the timeline with her boyfriend and him having two kids two different women, Yeah no. It was very much like Phedra being saying she was seven months pregnant and the baby was fully cooked. Like that's not how it works, honey.

38:54 Speaker 1: Little Until I was a pregnancy partner for my best friend this summer when she was a last summer, she was a surrogate and the baby literally cooks until like the last three minutes. Like they are like, I think she delivered a little bit early, like maybe a couple weeks and they had to like shoot her with steroids to try to make sure the lungs were functioning. Be okay, because they're like, Oh, the baby stays in there until it wants to come out. That's the best.

39:20 Speaker 2: Option, Like that's the best case scenario.

39:23 Speaker 1: I have a baby dode July twenty first, but he might come any day in mother's day.

39:29 Speaker 2: I'm wondering now, like is she just she think this guy is such a catch because he's an NFL star and that's why she's willing to look the other way. Like that doesn't make sense to me, because the way that she acts on the show is like she has it better than others and she knows more than them, and that they are kind of dumb and make, you know, poor choices, when really she's the one that seems to be making poor choices. But I love it, right, like I love a delusional queen.

39:57 Speaker 1: That's the delusion of a side chick. It's side chick delusion. There's a lot of side chick delusion. I'm a I'm a graduate of basketball wife, so I know a lot about that side chick delusion. Shout out to Kendrick and the gang who still watch and I got off a long time ago because no one's actually related or married to a player anymore. But like that side chick delusion of like he's gonna leave his wife for me, Like they keep that in their head and then they act like they are so much more like in tune with the world around them because they have conquered and maneuver this thing, like they have done that.

40:34 Speaker 2: What's even more wild, though, to me is the wife that's like, well, I'm the wife, you know, and like I'm special, I'm more, I'm better than all these side checks because I'm the wife. It's like the Jackie Oh sort of a dude, and I'm very much that's nothing to be proud of. You're basically saying my husband does not respect me and cheats all cheats on me all the time.

40:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, and and woman that he finds more riveting to be with than me were multiple or multiple, but I think in this case, like Jesse was a side chick that became the main piece and was like, oh, I guess I keep them, and because what do you do after you, you know, catch them and get the perks and the gifts and stuff. Now it's your turn, I guess.

41:21 Speaker 2: I mean, you can get perks and gifts from being married to people in finance that will never treat.

41:27 Speaker 1: You that way.

41:28 Speaker 2: So why go after the athlete. You can't even make money for that long. You know, they have an aspiration date?

41:36 Speaker 1: Have you seen that his x Y, the baby's mother is she has a really big problem with Jazzie mentioning the kids every single episode. And I hadn't noticed that. It was every episode that she's talking at all, that she's talking about somebody else's kids, like always being like, so he met me in February and the baby was okay, So so what do you guys like to do together? So he had his baby in January and then we started officially dating in February, Like we didn't ask that.

42:08 Speaker 2: The only time I've ever seen that work and be true is with Bridget moynihan and Tom Brady, where they had been dating they broke up. She found out she was pregnant. She was like, I'm not getting rid of this baby, and Tom Brady was like, great, we'll raise this kid together. And they did and it was beautiful and the child seems lovely and loved and you know, and that seemed to be like because we all thought that was super messy, right because he started, he stepped out with Giselle, and then all of a sudden his acts is pregnant.

42:42 Speaker 2: But there was no overlap with that, and everyone was on the same page and acted so mature about the situation. It doesn't feel that way in.

42:52 Speaker 1: Jes No, there's a lot of overlap, and that's why she wants us to know for a fact that there was a different and in timeline. But as we also know with Fedra, you're lying. So it's not because it doesn't make sense, and it doesn't make sense because it's untrue. So it's just fascinating to watch the ladies' reactions that she's like continuously like I think the producers made a nice little edit of how many times she's brought up the fact that his kids were born before there was a break and things, and she's in this pocket and she's done it like six times, So it's just like, huh okay.

43:29 Speaker 2: Seems like the women on Potomac, for the most part, are have all been cheated on and all try to make it seem like it's not as big of a deal as it is until they feel like making it a big deal, Like Giselle had been married to someone who was constantly cheating on her and having children with other women. You've got Ashley whose husband was found you know, at a casino, like naked in someone's room. You've got Wanda right and no, Robin's no longer on the show, but like very obviously cheating on her.

44:05 Speaker 2: Like there's so many. Now we've got Karen cheating on Ray. We've got It's like,

44:13 Speaker 2: I don't think it ever stopped.

44:14 Speaker 1: I don't think it ever stopped either. Do we still think this is blue eyes or is this? Yes?

44:19 Speaker 2: I think because he keeps getting brought up that I think it's a long term boyfriend.

44:24 Speaker 1: That's my belief, and I'm not gonna lie go off Karen.

44:28 Speaker 2: It makes me sad because Ray seems kind of nice except for when.

44:32 Speaker 1: I don't think Ray is notaive. He's been around the block, like I totally she don't think she's having an affair. I think she doesn't want the women in her.

44:39 Speaker 2: Business, so he's like cool with it.

44:42 Speaker 1: I think there's an arrangement, not the same as like a Michael and Ashley situation where I think they used to do things together. She expressed for like.

44:49 Speaker 2: A Mia and Gordon's situation exactly.

44:51 Speaker 1: I think this is like the well she has her thing on the side sometimes because he's young, I mean he's old. He wants to settle down and Karen's just now getting her swim in and wanted to do the stuff. But I think that it was never supposed to be messy. It wasn't supposed to embarrass him. And that's the problem is that the more famous y'all get, the more embarrassing it will be. Come when we find out, and we always find out, what do you think you're gonna do? Drive around where you're on a TV show with somebody and kiss somebody that you is not your husband that we know.

45:22 Speaker 2: The only person who I think's partner really respects them is Wendy.

45:28 Speaker 1: Love Eddie. Yes, literally, I'm not gonna lie y'all can't see me, but I have a happy Eddie in my hands right now. And me and Wendy have actually had conversation about how much I love it and how great it is and how much I love him, and she's like, girl, me too, And I love that for her.

45:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he loves her, he respects her, he's supportive of her so much, and but that's how it should be, and she loves him. I would never in a million year think that she would step out on that man. She's too busy, she's got too many kids.

46:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we just want to make money for our family and have a nice life.

46:09 Speaker 2: Okay, how do people have time to cheat? I feel like that would be so exhausting. Do you have like a separate shared calendar? Do you? You know? I was talking about some high profile cheating that happened in the DC area in terms of politics, and we were like going over and one was General David Petraeus. He cheated on his wife, who was like a huge military family supporter, with someone who I think it was his biographer. And the way that they kept it going for so long is they had a shared Gmail account and would send each other messages in drafts and then delete the drafts, so they would both log in to see what each other wrote and then delete the drafts.

46:53 Speaker 2: And that is so much to go through. Some side ass.

46:59 Speaker 1: Like yeah, they pop you an edible, go to dinner and eat a steak or something and have a nice time, but that adventure that would that's too much work. I'm exhausted.

47:11 Speaker 2: And the thing is is that these people aren't interested in polyamory, because if you wanted to be polyamorous, you have to be open and honest about who you're with, and so they I think they get off on having a secret.

47:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's weird to me. I don't know. It's so strange married I don't get it. And I'm tired. Man. I work hard. I do a lot of stuff. I don't have time to add any other emotional like things onto my plate, which also is another reason why again I'm back at Stacy and what the hell are we doing because she's not fully divorced. They're rotating in and out of this house. I didn't have a problem with that. I think nesting is actually makes a lot of sense. And as someone who you know works with kids, I actually think the kids having a stable environment and the adults who choose to live different lives, I think they should have the hardship and not the child just because it really affects them in school.

48:02 Speaker 1: Like really, so go ahead and get your divorces. People don't stay for the kids because that also affects them, but also don't uproot their lives and stuff, because that is when they start having, you know, the really hard things. I don't think Stacey's doing the right thing and not telling their daughter, yeah, staying that she's like I understand that she thinks that the best thing to do is to wait until they have everything figured out in case she has questions. However, I like to see that and raise children are actually quite understanding and quite resilient.

48:34 Speaker 1: They just want to know that they will know. They don't need to know right now, but you can let them know upfront. As mommy and daddy figure this out, you will be the first to know and will include you in every step and decision that we make to make sure that you're comfortable. And she's gonna be just fine with that. But not telling her it's gonna all the time. It just doesn't want to spend time with me, what are you doing?

48:59 Speaker 2: No, or just dropping it on her like and being like so we're getting divorced and was moving out and this is happening, and then you'll be with Daddy on these days and that'll be like all overnight, just a.

49:11 Speaker 1: Cool change whelming info.

49:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can do a drip drip.

49:15 Speaker 1: Drip, Yeah you can, and I think that's actually the best way to do it. And honestly, like I had a drip drip drip kind of you know, divorced upbringing, but it was the toxic time where like, you know, you would just know that the fights are getting worse and worse and worse and worse, and then you're just like, this is happening, right, Like you get old enough to be like, is there a way to stop parents from fighting? And you type that into Google and Google is like divorce And I'm like, I remember being like twelve or thirteen and asking my mom one night random like are you and Daddy getting divorced?

49:46 Speaker 1: And she was like, why would you say that? Was like, because you hate each other? And I so and I'm again having a miserable time.

49:55 Speaker 2: Oh my god, do you know the time that I thought my parents were at divorced? Is my dad company gave him a company car, but he's a part owner of this company, so you would think he would have more of a say, but he didn't really and it was a German car, and my mother lost her goddamn mind. We're Jewish, and you know a lot of the German car companies were actively involved in the Holocaust, which is why if you go to Israel, like there's all these Mercedes there, because they felt so bad. They like Mercedes keep sending cars and.

50:28 Speaker 1: Trust wait, I kind of love that. That's how they're trying to get right. Oh, I think that's cute.

50:33 Speaker 2: It's I think it's adorable.

50:35 Speaker 1: I think it's so funny.

50:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, seriously, and Germany has done actual reparations, so like, no hate to Germany. But my mom, you know, being the you know, next generation after the Holocaust, and almost all of her friend's parents were survivors, and you know, we in the synagogue I grew up, and I would say like one out of every four adults over age sixty was a acaust survivor probably, And so it was like she was losing her mind. She was so mad at my dad and she's like, you know, I can't believe you're like it's like a Hitler mobile, and my dad goes, I didn't realize Hitler drove an suv, and like they didn't speak for like three days.

51:20 Speaker 2: So my dad slept in the guest room and my brother and I were like, this is it. This is gonna break them. And then finally they started talking. I don't know what who broke the ice, and I think it was my mom just being like, you can't park with them three blocks of the Synegague and it was over.

51:38 Speaker 1: That's hilarious.

51:39 Speaker 2: But she just kept on making these comments anytime we were in the car. So the c you know, back in the day, like the CD player was a big deal, and the CD player was in the back of the car and it had six cs like opportunity to have six CDs. But if you wanted to add a new CD, you literally had to do it before you drove. And my mom would be like, oh, like the Germans, that's so stupid.

52:00 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's what.

52:04 Speaker 2: Well, my mother's made a name its German.

52:07 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, right, so it's that's fun. She's fully in down to say whatever she finished.

52:15 Speaker 2: She could say what she wants. But oh man, was that fight big. That was the big one.

52:20 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that Hitler drove a s uv is.

52:23 Speaker 2: Anything, and he was trying to like joke his way out of it, and she.

52:28 Speaker 1: Was just she was not having that. She tell me.

52:34 Speaker 2: Parking, you will not shame me at temple.

52:40 Speaker 1: Yes, like in and out if you have to to keep it around back. But like the.

52:45 Speaker 2: Truth is is I did like look around at the synagogue parking lot and there was there was only one person who drove a Volkswagon and like people did like make side comments.

52:56 Speaker 1: I drive a lun day so I'm good.

52:59 Speaker 2: No, I mean this was also in the nineties.

53:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was a little bit closser. You know, I find it very funny. I think that's a door. I think your parents sound adorable, but like I love that that in the three day fight them Like wow, I know you didn't just wow, okay, like but that's what I'm saying, right, Like at least though, like there was and how old were you and your brother when this happened.

53:24 Speaker 2: I was in high school and he might have been in middle school. And yeah, you're just like we didn't really think so, but we're like we've never seen them not talk for this long. Yeah, So it was my dad just avoiding, like he wasn't actively not talking. It was my mom actively not talking, and my dad was just like trying to stand.

53:42 Speaker 1: Away, understand mom, and until I want to talk again and tell you what to do with yourself, and then I'm going to go back to not talking. But that's literally what I'm saying is like at eight, they're also understanding things about their parents' relationship, Like they're not talking like that, they're not spending time together, they're not sleeping in the same room. Mommy's at work like these kinds of things. She's not stupid. She probably knows what's going on, and she's probably already talking to her friends about it, and it's scaring the shit out of her and her little friends.

54:11 Speaker 1: Because that also happens. I've had to get many a counselor deployed at many different schools in many a second, third and fourth grade classroom because the kids have worked themselves into a tizzy about something that's happening at home over there that their parents said. And then I text the parents and they're like, I had no idea this was bothering them so much. I had one kid who was like telling everyone, like, I'm moving to Tampa and he was really upset about it. All his friends started crying.

54:36 Speaker 1: This went on for three days and I had just text the mom, Hey, he's really like affected by this move. I guess that's happening. You know, he's been writing on his papers, he's been talking to his friends. I did have to send him to the counselor today just because it seems to be really bothering him. Something he can of can't move past. And it's like Wednesday, and she was like, it's something we've only talked about, we mentioned maybe once. I think he overheard us. I had no idea was affecting him this way.

55:00 Speaker 1: I'm like, your kids are listening. That is like.

55:06 Speaker 2: So my dad was like too honest with us. So when my mom would go away, either with friends or on a work trip or something, we would order in pizza because he just like didn't want to deal with that. And then we had rules that we couldn't have friends over, and we were always allowed to have friends over. And I was like why and my dad was because I don't know how to take care of more than two of you. And then he would like, let us watch it. Ur He's like, I'll let you watch an R rated movie with me.

55:37 Speaker 1: That's incredible. Just no frames.

55:39 Speaker 2: Literally, I don't know, but I'm not. I don't know what I'm doing.

55:43 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do here. Please don't make this hard on me. That's incredible. Your dad is an amazing here, I.

55:51 Speaker 2: Know, but I mean with the reason. I mean, there was a reason why he didn't trust himself. Like he was raised in the Soviet Union. They had very different parenting styles that were extremely harsh, and you know, you know, you.

56:03 Speaker 1: Can't joke your way out of things with other.

56:05 Speaker 2: Kids, right, and so he kind of didn't know how to raise kids because the way he was raised he did not want to replicate. And so he really related to my mom, who also happened to be a social worker, to kind of guide how everything was going to go. Because you know, you weren't allowed to culturally hug or kiss or say I love you to male children. So when my brother was born, my dad was like terrified he couldn't show the same affection that he showed to me. And my mom was like, no, you can do whatever you want, like you tell him you love him all that stuff.

56:41 Speaker 2: So my dad is like overly affectionate with my brother, like more than me. He goes out of his way, you know, and it's it's so funny. So when you know, we got older and I was like, Dad, do you remember telling us that you like didn't know how to be like supervise children. And he's like, yeah, I didn't know what I was doing. I really like looked to mom and I just mimicked what she did.

57:05 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's actually really sweet.

57:07 Speaker 2: It's really sweet.

57:08 Speaker 1: It's a nice reminder also, like as like we're like Stacy, we have questions and some concerns and some advice like they to inform future decisions. But it's very like all parents, they're just doing the best they can.

57:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally like your.

57:25 Speaker 1: Dad, they're doing the best they can with the information that they have. They're thinking they're doing the right thing by their kids because they're scared of making mistakes and fucking their kids up forever. And I also want to remind parents that you are going to make mistakes, no matter what your kids may feel like or seem like they're gonna be fucked up from it, and they're not. They're not.

57:43 Speaker 2: They'll be totally fine.

57:45 Speaker 1: I'm just fine, And I'm telling you everything that could have happened, happened to me, and it's gonna be fine, Like and there are people who have got through so much worse and their parents stay together and they were miserable or broke up and they were super happy, like they're a full world of As long as that little girl knows that she's loved by both of her parents, she won't really give a shit where it's coming from or win, just that she has.

58:07 Speaker 2: Can we talk for a second about this guy that TJ that she's seen.

58:11 Speaker 1: What is happening many he doesn't want her right like he doesn't.

58:17 Speaker 2: So the weird Okay, the only thing I thought was strange is that he's never been married. So and he's forty one. So does that mean he's never had sex because he doesn't believe in sex before marriage. And if he's never had sex and he's forty one, then I think that's not religious.

58:32 Speaker 1: I think that he has never had sex. I think he is on a side thing as of like whatever time she met him in his life, he was has chosen to be celibate and didn't want to break that vow. And I'm not encouraging breaking that vow.

58:47 Speaker 2: No, I actually think that's fine.

58:49 Speaker 1: If I have some questions though about the like the attitude behind it, that's what's getting me. It's not like it's just not giving me an eagerness to grow and see if you can get to that point with this person. Like the way that Stacey feels very hopeful with him, I don't feel that same hopefulness with him about her.

59:12 Speaker 2: Maybe he's having difficulty expressing himself on camera too.

59:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's apparent, but because he was.

59:20 Speaker 2: On Watch What Happens Live when she was there and he seemed very into her. So maybe it's just I don't understand.

59:29 Speaker 1: He's not reading well on film. And I find out at the reunion Andy will have his messy questions and I'm hoping that he'll be there because we, I mean, we're not getting a husband, so I would like to see that. Some people on the internets have like equated this to like a Walter situation. I don't know if that's where we're at, Like Walter and Kenya, where it was very clear that Walter didn't like love Kenya, but like there was some arrangement or something that he would show up for her, and I don't thank that.

1:00:00 Speaker 2: I think Stacy is someone who is blindly optimistic. Yeah, and I think she really likes this guy, And I think she's actually probably very religious herself and respects it and maybe believes that the relationship is actually going to be better because it's not based in sex. But the question is like when does that end? Yeah?

1:00:24 Speaker 1: What a veil? Like are you saying that you also want to marry him? Like it does that timeline work for you too? Because it just seems like we're living a lot on his timeline, Like he wants to wait for marriage, Well, I hope to maryam one day. I hope I'm not waiting three years? Like why is it you do you?

1:00:39 Speaker 2: Well, she's the one we're married, so it is on her, like you got to not be married anymore if you want to start having conversations.

1:00:47 Speaker 1: Well yes, but I'm saying like she's not. I'm also like trying to figure out like is that what she wants to pursue with him? Like do you want to be the one who marries him next? Like do you want to jump for or leave one marriage and go into this marriage because you say you don't want to be waiting for three years to have sex? So is that? But you know that's his intention, So what's yours? Like, what do you want to do? Because if it's marriage or sex after marriage, do you want to marry this manly?

1:01:13 Speaker 1: Is that what you're waiting for? You're waiting to get divorced. I think she is Mary.

1:01:17 Speaker 2: I think she is, but she doesn't want to come out and say it.

1:01:20 Speaker 1: Interesting.

1:01:23 Speaker 2: I think she likes that. I don't think she wanted to get divorced to begin with. I think she really likes being a wife. I don't think she likes anything that seems like it's not perfect.

1:01:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean QVC, it's just good at it. Like I actually really think she has a good TV personality in more ways than one, because in the group dynamic, aside from her life being very interesting in these men's that she's juggling being almost as interesting as Mia having her girlfriend, boyfriend, and husband all on the same show. Those two are keeping me busy this season. Okay, But in like addition to that, I actually like her dynamic with the ladies. I think she's really cute and quirky, very interviewee very awkward, like in a endearing way of like read the room like Wendy was Hella hungover the next morning, like after her birthday party.

1:02:20 Speaker 1: But Stacey was just like asking her questions and I just I really I would want to go to long lunch with Stacy, like I'd want to drink Sangria in the middle of like July and her just tell me things and ask me questions like looks like they didn't on QVC, like they they chat, they eat, they walk, they eat, they walk, they ask questions like I just love her vibe and I like that the ladies like her, and I like that she really cares about Karen. But she also was not afraid to be like, so, what is it?

1:02:49 Speaker 1: Are you okay saying alcoholics anonymous for you? Sorry?

1:02:54 Speaker 2: I should laugh, but it's just like should I be worried? It's like, yeah, you don't need, as Karen, if one of your friends has eight charges from a DUI, Like eight is a substantial number number, yes, And I like far and more serious than the Shannon Badoor situation where she drove for like thirty seconds before crashing.

1:03:18 Speaker 1: Right, And I need to remind people and let people know like knock on wood. And I won't give the DMV area too much on its cops because there's over policing happening in all parts of the DMV, but they typically don't love because of how busy they are, and a lot of the Metro areas they don't love. Just a hand and out charges to do paperwork. Oh my god, they gotten away not over police does nefarious things. I have gotten away with a lot more from a cop than I ever have should And so for them to have written up eight charges, the first thing my mom said was like, how bad was it?

1:03:53 Speaker 2: It must have been terrible because data, I mean, I live harder to.

1:03:58 Speaker 1: See and we'll get it with a lot everything.

1:04:01 Speaker 2: You get away with everything.

1:04:03 Speaker 1: People get away with everything, especially traffic violations. So the amount of people I know who have been driving drunk on four and during the New Year's Eve festivating, Oh god, So I'm just like hearing what were you doing? And eyes he really don't?

1:04:22 Speaker 2: You really don't, right, I was like, where's your driver?

1:04:25 Speaker 1: Where's the driver? And you really don't be driving? Do you maybe call somebody?

1:04:31 Speaker 2: Just so I'm pretty sure the Metro is free on New Year's Eve?

1:04:35 Speaker 1: Also, yes, girl, you live in the crazy area in like all of the East Coast next to New York, you can get anywhere. You don't need to drive drunk or under the influence or whatever. But again, how bad was it? You must have been going like in the opposite direction of traffic.

1:04:54 Speaker 2: No, she did, she had a median.

1:04:56 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Right, and then she was like, this has been very traumatic and all that I'm going through and I need support, and Ashley is like, yes, you, you're right. Other people could have died. You're correct, and I don't.

1:05:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, don't mess with drunk drive. Remember when Monique had like to be drinks.

1:05:14 Speaker 1: He does not like that. She doesn't like that. And it's true, it's a really easy way to make someone out to be a bad person, like you know, Tamra I law school with Tamra, because it is it's like, it's sickening, it's really disgusting. It's like the number one disaster that can happen to somebody on the road, and it's the least preventable one. Like it's non preventable. You can't determine how someone else is going to make the decision to do that, and that's like really scary. And so yeah, Karen, I'd give you a hard time too.

1:05:40 Speaker 1: I'd give you a hard time too. It's easy. Karen too better. This is this is a tough season because her edit is actually quite good.

1:05:49 Speaker 2: For how I think she's terrible.

1:05:52 Speaker 1: I think she's coming across terribly. I think that the editing, though, is not against her. She's doing fine. She's actually funny, she's quippy, The confessionals are cute, she's having she's having good zingers. We're focusing a lot about on her, and like they're they're doing there. They filmed her event for the ten seconds that they were there, which is actually kind of crazy.

1:06:16 Speaker 2: They weren't there. It was iPhone footage.

1:06:18 Speaker 1: Oh iPhone footage that makes sense, ye moniques, And that was like they were there for like a couple of minutes and it only showed for like a couple of minutes. But I think that she you know, it's hard to be a Karen fan this season. The girls are having a difficult time. And I have clocked it like, oh, this is the first time that Karen is being like picked apart a little bit, but like by the fans in the cast, And I appreciated this cast does that because what the editors may not do or the people may not do, because they stay in Karen like, oh so much.

1:06:48 Speaker 1: She's not that way like the girlies are like, no, ma'am not happening. So the Potomac ladies have really been giving me so much lately, and I'm really really grateful for them. I can't wait for Beverly Hills to get started. And right now I'm in an overflow and abundance of housewife and I'm really I'm pleased. I'm having a nice time. Are you having a nice time.

1:07:11 Speaker 2: I'm having a great time.

1:07:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm having a great time. You guys. This isn't my only conversation about housewives. I'm gonna be recording again in a couple of days to discuss the recent episodes of Sally City and Potomac at Oc. I just needed to catch up and I needed to call. We needed to talk about Teddy. I did not. I needed something to take my rants energy away this week and to redirect it somewhere else, and it happened to be in the equestrian community a la voc slash Beverly Hills. I think that is fantastic. Final question, Mandy, does this warrant Teddy getting back on the show, that's the big part.

1:07:48 Speaker 2: Probably not no, but if she gets on anywhere. I would think it would make sense to be oc.

1:07:55 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean yeah, that would make a lot of sense because she's now I would be more interested in her into more than her and Kyle any day.

1:08:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes that's what because I think would Tamra turn on her once she is a coworker, I mean she is a coworker on There's.

1:08:12 Speaker 1: The same show? Yeah, and yet edited to her and her money? Yes?

1:08:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, mm hmm.

1:08:17 Speaker 1: I wonder what will happen with that? I wonder what morel found out? Well, you will find out. But in the meantime, Mandy, where can people find you? Where can they listen to you and connect with you and all of your amazing insight and witty things like y'all, Mandy is the best you have to outside of it? If they're not just scrolling through the top I can't stop saying it the top TV Reviews. Did you know that you're on there like every week? Really? Yes?

1:08:42 Speaker 2: Where do you find that on Apple?

1:08:44 Speaker 1: Like if you go to like oh oh oh like bowls or something, and then like TV Reviews, you're on there every week? I'm away, like, look nice, thank you for browsing. Go ahead over there to Mandy's podcast, But where could they find you if they're want to be super intentional into a rule?

1:09:02 Speaker 2: Right? Yes, So my podcast is called is This Real Life with Mandy Slutsker, And if you want to find me anywhere, whether it be on Apple, Spotify or Instagram or Twitter, you can type in Mandy, m A and d Y and then slut because my last name is Slutsker spelled s l ut s k e R. So I kid you not. You type in Mandy slut and I come up, so you'll be able to find the podcast. You can find me on Instagram, and yeah, I have been having a little bit more political Instagram stories. I usually try and keep my Instagram separate from politics, but it's been hard lately.

1:09:41 Speaker 1: Been hard. It's really hard to disassociate people.

1:09:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's part of my work. So normally I'm like, well, I'm not going to talk about work related things.

1:09:51 Speaker 1: But it's crazy.

1:09:53 Speaker 2: You're sort of like housewives right now, you know, So I feel like it makes sense.

1:10:00 Speaker 1: Listen, We're trying to find you where we can, and I'll continue to be doing that as much as I can find it, and if not, then I'll think it's till I make it. But right now, I've had a splendid time with you, Mandy. This has been so much fun and probably the most that I've smiled in the last all week long. Me too, I've not This is the first week ever where I have like turned off my notifications for news and I've not done that, like since I was like took a calm class like my sophmore year of college, and they told me, like, you need to be tapped into the news and what's going on in the world.

1:10:33 Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, you're right, I'm an adult and to my detriment, right, But yeah. So I've had a lot of fun and I'm just so glad you came back. Thank you so much. I can't wait for you to come back again.

1:10:46 Speaker 2: Yes, and you need to come back on mine especially.

1:10:49 Speaker 1: You were the best you guys. You know where to find me at mixing with Moni and my x I g W I T H M A n I. Thank you for listening. Take care of your souls. Love you, babe.