Hot Tops and Accountability w/ Mandy Slutsker (Is This Real Life Podcast)

0:22 Speaker 1: Beautiful, wonderful mixologists out there. It's your girl, Moni and

0:25 Speaker 1: you are in the mix with Mony. Oh my god, y'all.

0:29 Speaker 1: I it has been a wild couple of weeks. We

0:32 Speaker 1: have needed joy. I have finally coming out. I'm out

0:36 Speaker 1: of my cave and into the light. And Honey, there's

0:40 Speaker 1: a lot of things happening in this light, Honey, Bravo

0:42 Speaker 1: light has shone and it's shown in some areas that

0:46 Speaker 1: the girls are not pleased that are being exposed. I

0:51 Speaker 1: had to get one of the best to break it

0:54 Speaker 1: down with me, to figure this all out and to

0:57 Speaker 1: really like get into the nitty gritty of the hot

0:59 Speaker 1: top of what's happening in the world in a Bravosphere today,

1:03 Speaker 1: and it's keeping us distracted right now. And I needed

1:09 Speaker 1: Mandy from Is This Real Life? The podcast? It is

1:13 Speaker 1: literally one of the best in TV reviews right now

1:16 Speaker 1: on Apple. You have to go and listen, and if

1:18 Speaker 1: you're already here, you probably already listen. But in case

1:21 Speaker 1: you are not, go ahead and hit that button. But

1:23 Speaker 1: thank you so much meeting for coming back on. How

1:25 Speaker 1: are you doing?

1:27 Speaker 2: You know I'm getting by. It's been a week. I

1:30 Speaker 2: think yesterday in particular was one of the most bonkers

1:34 Speaker 2: days I've ever had in my work life. Yes, ever,

1:40 Speaker 2: I'm sure so I am just you know, like keeping

1:45 Speaker 2: real busy at work and then outside of work really

1:48 Speaker 2: trying to dis see with like, you know, all this

1:53 Speaker 2: Bravo stuff. And the best is when I'm in like

1:55 Speaker 2: a really serious work meeting and I literally just got

1:59 Speaker 2: a text my friend that said, wait, let me find

2:03 Speaker 2: it because it made me laugh. Any insight into what

2:06 Speaker 2: happened with Lalla's assistant, Jessica question Mark, And I was like, Jody,

2:11 Speaker 2: I live for your friendship right now.

2:13 Speaker 1: Thank you.

2:14 Speaker 2: These are the pressing questions of the day.

2:18 Speaker 1: Please does it make me involved with this? I'd rather

2:20 Speaker 1: engage with this. This is also as important like the

2:24 Speaker 1: state of our world and what the heck is happening

2:26 Speaker 1: with Laala and her assistant. Let's die like what because

2:31 Speaker 1: I have questions like I'm not gonna lie, I've had

2:35 Speaker 1: probably egal enough questions about that as I have like

2:39 Speaker 1: what's happening in the cabinet, Like I'm literally like, that's

2:43 Speaker 1: an interesting choice. Wait her assistant did a what oh well,

2:48 Speaker 1: that's a whole lot of nothing that she said. I

2:50 Speaker 1: if she signed an India.

2:52 Speaker 2: Like yeah you know that.

2:55 Speaker 1: What do we think is happening? As if you don't

2:58 Speaker 1: know Laala and her assistant also the co host of

3:01 Speaker 1: her show, give them La La it's gone split lickety

3:07 Speaker 1: and just did not. I guess there was some feedback

3:12 Speaker 1: from listeners. They say that she left without saying goodbye.

3:16 Speaker 1: Look to the listeners, she didn't have a formal departure,

3:19 Speaker 1: one that you might see in like a departure of like, uh,

3:23 Speaker 1: sounds like a cult that podcast shout out to them

3:26 Speaker 1: of like why they separate and someone comes on even

3:30 Speaker 1: if it's contentious and it's like saying goodbye to the

3:32 Speaker 1: listeners and what they've built and all the things. Or

3:35 Speaker 1: I call her Daddy's situation where they hate each other

3:38 Speaker 1: and never speak again and then go on separate youtubes

3:40 Speaker 1: and explain their side of the story in very contradicting ways.

3:44 Speaker 1: But then one of them get some multimillion dollar deal.

3:46 Speaker 1: Who knows? So that has happened? What do you think?

3:52 Speaker 1: How did we get here? Because her video didn't seem

3:55 Speaker 1: like it said too much, but she really wanted to

3:58 Speaker 1: address the fact that she is leaving, but like blink,

4:02 Speaker 1: I'm blinking to inform you guys of what's happening of

4:06 Speaker 1: like that there's something else afoot.

4:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it just sounds like I think Lala

4:13 Speaker 2: did something, and I blame Lalla and pretty much for

4:16 Speaker 2: anything that could go wrong in this situation. Not only

4:20 Speaker 2: what how many months ago did she give birth? And

4:23 Speaker 2: this girl Jessica was in the room apparently, like as

4:27 Speaker 2: Lala was giving birth, Jessica had broken up with her

4:31 Speaker 2: fiance and apparently did a podcast where she went in

4:35 Speaker 2: detail about her life and that decision. So the fact

4:40 Speaker 2: that the audience knows this girl and that she wasn't

4:44 Speaker 2: even given a proper send off is just all sorts

4:48 Speaker 2: of nonsense. And Lala, if you guys haven't been paying attention,

4:52 Speaker 2: the only people that hang around her are her family,

4:56 Speaker 2: folks who are on her payroll, Folks who are her

4:59 Speaker 2: family and on her payroll, and two other people Sheena

5:04 Speaker 2: say because she's very nice in friends with everyone, and

5:09 Speaker 2: Heather McDonald. I feel like there's like it may be

5:12 Speaker 2: Sassy Schroeder and I feel like they bond over parenting stuff. Yeah,

5:17 Speaker 2: but I don't know who Lala's real friends are, and

5:19 Speaker 2: I don't think she has Any because she can't. She

5:23 Speaker 2: doesn't know how to be a friend.

5:24 Speaker 1: She's not a loyal individual. I've seen a lot of

5:27 Speaker 1: people talk about that, and they're right. I think that.

5:31 Speaker 1: The last time that I watched vander Pump, which was

5:35 Speaker 1: like probably the season finale, I checked in and out

5:38 Speaker 1: of the last season, I remember thinking to myself, truly,

5:44 Speaker 1: she has moved around the most in friend groups on

5:47 Speaker 1: this show, like the most in clips and best friends

5:51 Speaker 1: on this show. Like it really like Sheena is really

5:55 Speaker 1: just pined after the Witches of Who and Saucy and

5:59 Speaker 1: like you know, in and out of that, the Witch

6:00 Speaker 1: is off, Weeho has broken up, gotten back together, broken up,

6:03 Speaker 1: but Laila has made her around. She's friends with Brettany,

6:06 Speaker 1: she's friends with Shea, but she's also fought everybody because

6:10 Speaker 1: of that. So it's like one minute she's been best

6:13 Speaker 1: friends with these people and then she's calling them all

6:16 Speaker 1: kinds of things bitches and hose and everything but the

6:19 Speaker 1: child of God, and all of a sudden, it's like

6:23 Speaker 1: I'm done. When I'm done, I'm done. And she really

6:25 Speaker 1: prides herself on being like that really like that quote

6:28 Speaker 1: unquote gangster personality of like cutting people off and you know,

6:35 Speaker 1: doing like whatever she wants to do, And really I

6:38 Speaker 1: find a lot to be one of the most annoying

6:40 Speaker 1: human beings. Like she makes good TV, but she is

6:43 Speaker 1: like a not good person to me, Like I have

6:47 Speaker 1: trouble with her as an individual. So it's not surprising

6:51 Speaker 1: to me one that she did someone dirty, no matter

6:54 Speaker 1: how close you would think you would do your assistant

6:56 Speaker 1: a little bit nicer who's been a part of your

6:59 Speaker 1: world for so long and helped you build this podcast.

7:02 Speaker 1: But we also have seen La La do far worse

7:05 Speaker 1: for far less to people who we thought were she

7:08 Speaker 1: was even close to. So I'm not surprised, but I

7:12 Speaker 1: A'm like stunned and disappointed. But I wish that girl.

7:15 Speaker 1: But ndias don't mean shit. Girls speak on it now.

7:19 Speaker 2: Das mean shit if you don't have the money to

7:21 Speaker 2: back up a lot, And I'm pretty sure Jessica has

7:25 Speaker 2: a lot less money than Laala, and so she has

7:27 Speaker 2: been real smart about it.

7:29 Speaker 1: And Garyl's probably got her email on you you know what,

7:32 Speaker 1: Keep it classy, Yeah, keep it classy. I'm glad she left,

7:35 Speaker 1: and I'm also glad that she addressed the fans on

7:38 Speaker 1: her own. You know terms, because I'm sure they had

7:41 Speaker 1: a lot of questions and they're gonna eat Lalla up

7:44 Speaker 1: for this anyway. So it's all okay, Like it's gonna

7:46 Speaker 1: be fine because the people are all the streets are

7:49 Speaker 1: already already rumbling of what happened. They're already trying to

7:52 Speaker 1: figure it out. They're already saying, if anything happening is

7:55 Speaker 1: probably La La, it is that fault for being a

7:58 Speaker 1: bad friend. So, but to go from someone being in

8:01 Speaker 1: the room when you gave birth, which is an incredibly

8:03 Speaker 1: intimate experience, to firing them like a couple of weeks

8:07 Speaker 1: later and like kicking them off like they never existed.

8:11 Speaker 2: What if Jessica got a new opportunity and was like,

8:15 Speaker 2: oh my god, I can't turn this down, but I'm

8:18 Speaker 2: kind of like growing out of being your assistant, and

8:20 Speaker 2: Lala was so pissed that she couldn't like find it

8:24 Speaker 2: within her to congratulate her and look for a new assistant,

8:28 Speaker 2: you know.

8:29 Speaker 1: A normal person.

8:30 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I one hundred. I mean it could be

8:34 Speaker 2: something as simple as that, or it could be as

8:36 Speaker 2: sillacious as this girl Jessica hooking up with her brother Easton.

8:41 Speaker 1: That would be amazing if.

8:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, people who listened to the podcast were saying that

8:45 Speaker 2: Jessica and Easton had incredible chemistry.

8:48 Speaker 1: Oh oh, maybe they have incredible chemistry. But I also

8:51 Speaker 1: felt like if that was a thing, or if there

8:53 Speaker 1: was like a real big scandal that made someone else

8:56 Speaker 1: look bad, we would hear about it from Lalla. She

8:59 Speaker 1: will definitely let us know and that she is not

9:02 Speaker 1: the issue and it is not her fault because that

9:05 Speaker 1: train's never late with her. But I can absolutely see

9:09 Speaker 1: the assistant thing that actually sounds a lot like Lawa's personality,

9:13 Speaker 1: which is like very not Kim Kardashian of her, which

9:16 Speaker 1: is usually the realm that she's going for of entrepreneurship

9:21 Speaker 1: in that kind of way and taking to Kim k

9:24 Speaker 1: route in more ways than one. But like Kim, Justin's

9:27 Speaker 1: those girls on their way and then they become famous

9:29 Speaker 1: on their own and everything else, and you wish them

9:31 Speaker 1: well and that's it, Like you put on your show

9:34 Speaker 1: and they go off.

9:35 Speaker 2: People up.

9:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, Justin Sylvester, but Kyle Richards, look at where Justin

9:41 Speaker 1: is now. Look at when we met Justin in Kyle's kitchen,

9:44 Speaker 1: but she was hording Portie and now he is like

9:47 Speaker 1: he is actually one of the I think co hosts

9:50 Speaker 1: of Ladyland, which is like this big Lady Gang. The

9:54 Speaker 1: Lady Gang podcast is like doing this big festival thing,

9:58 Speaker 1: and and Arianno Maddix is one of the headliners along

10:04 Speaker 1: with Stacy Schroeder, which I found interestingly delightful.

10:08 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, wow, they're both like best friends

10:11 Speaker 2: with Katie exactly. They definitely see each other and like

10:15 Speaker 2: know about each other, and I think both with God

10:18 Speaker 2: I can't talk today, wish each other well. Like I

10:20 Speaker 2: don't know if they're best friends, but I think they

10:23 Speaker 2: very much respect each other.

10:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm glad they do now. One thing, Ariana

10:28 Speaker 1: has always been pretty sure of herself and Stossy spent

10:30 Speaker 1: most of her vand Front Rule's career being pretty insecure

10:33 Speaker 1: and so and that, and it showed in all the

10:35 Speaker 1: ways and so they never really got along. So them

10:39 Speaker 1: being like cool now even not as like also parents

10:43 Speaker 1: is really interesting. And I kind of like that they're

10:46 Speaker 1: growing into this, that they're they're grown up now. And

10:49 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna I don't really want to

10:51 Speaker 1: spend a lot of too much time on Stacy Schroder

10:53 Speaker 1: because she's not I'm not her biggest fan at all,

10:56 Speaker 1: but she did get a big new podcast deal, and

10:58 Speaker 1: I think that's really cool that she is able to

11:00 Speaker 1: make something of herself. Like her look, she's turned that

11:04 Speaker 1: basic bitch personality that they used to call her out

11:07 Speaker 1: for into an empire. And you know, listen, do it,

11:12 Speaker 1: do it girl, get that coin. I don't even know

11:14 Speaker 1: what the other guy's doing anymore, but who cares?

11:17 Speaker 2: And I will say her assistant has been with her

11:20 Speaker 2: for ever. Oh yeah, they're like best friends. I mean

11:26 Speaker 2: the assistant is like she loves that girl low French.

11:30 Speaker 1: Yeah m hm, sure, that's the whole that's the difference. Yeah,

11:36 Speaker 1: oh my gosh. So that's like, you know, they're not

11:39 Speaker 1: on TV right now, but it's been pretty interesting to

11:42 Speaker 1: see what's gonna happen with Vanna Pump. I know that

11:44 Speaker 1: there's rumors and rumblings that the next season is going

11:47 Speaker 1: to start filming soon, but it has been on a

11:51 Speaker 1: pretty hefty pause, an unofficial hefty pause where it seems

11:57 Speaker 1: a little bit like even the cast is kind of

11:58 Speaker 1: like quote unquote begging for them to come back, like wow,

12:01 Speaker 1: we really should get started, or there's so much happening

12:03 Speaker 1: in our lives. You know that the cameras are late

12:06 Speaker 1: when Sheena lets us know that so much is happening

12:09 Speaker 1: and there's just so much and we should be you know,

12:12 Speaker 1: all together, look at us hanging out. Want to come

12:15 Speaker 1: film this. But the chemistry and the timing and the ratings.

12:21 Speaker 1: Bravo is really not doing well in ratings right now.

12:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, not good.

12:26 Speaker 1: I blame New York.

12:29 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure. I mean a lot of times

12:31 Speaker 2: people don't know who don't watch Bravo regularly, like don't

12:34 Speaker 2: know when a new season starts. So I have some

12:37 Speaker 2: friends who watch Saltlake, right a bunch of gay guys.

12:40 Speaker 2: All they watch is salt Lake, and they didn't realize

12:43 Speaker 2: that the new season had started to be like, hello,

12:49 Speaker 2: it's incredible watching again, don't yeah, and yeah, so they're back.

12:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, I'm I mean a lot of black

13:01 Speaker 1: Aunties watch Potomac and only Potomac, and that only in

13:05 Speaker 1: Potomac after they were only watching Atlanta for the last

13:09 Speaker 1: fourteen years or whatever. So they and they don't know

13:11 Speaker 1: because they're doing you know, Sunday night things, and I

13:14 Speaker 1: have to be like, yeah, I'm watching Potomac. It's like

13:16 Speaker 1: oh what the girl's doing these days, and like, oh,

13:18 Speaker 1: it's a new season. I'm like, you got to get

13:20 Speaker 1: on there. And they're not going back and catching up.

13:22 Speaker 1: They're just kind of, you know, catching it as they

13:24 Speaker 1: catch it and then telling me it's riveting, Like have

13:27 Speaker 1: you seen Potomac this year? I'm like, yes, I have actually,

13:35 Speaker 1: And I love getting those texts. I love it when

13:37 Speaker 1: people text me and they're like, oh my god, did

13:39 Speaker 1: you see wrong ones, yes, tell me, give it to

13:42 Speaker 1: me right now, meeting what is it? I love when

13:45 Speaker 1: people catch up, Oh my god, Okay, the big thing

13:52 Speaker 1: that has happened, the biggest fish this week. I cannot

13:56 Speaker 1: even figure out anything else. I can't even lead into

13:58 Speaker 1: it anymore with anything else else. I've never ever talked

14:02 Speaker 1: about this girl kindly on this show, and just I

14:07 Speaker 1: don't speak about her.

14:08 Speaker 2: Oh you just don't talk about her.

14:09 Speaker 1: I just do not because there's not much to say.

14:13 Speaker 1: But today, of all days, there is a good amount

14:16 Speaker 1: to say about Teddy Melancaan, John Cougar's daughter. Wow. Wow, Wow,

14:24 Speaker 1: what is it? What did you find out? Like what

14:27 Speaker 1: information hit your eyes first that made you know like

14:32 Speaker 1: what's happening? Because I remember seeing your story, So what

14:35 Speaker 1: did you see.

14:37 Speaker 2: So well, this is something that I know from a

14:39 Speaker 2: while ago, is that I've listened a few times to

14:42 Speaker 2: her podcast, and it's not bad her and Tamera, especially

14:46 Speaker 2: when they're not talking about things relating to themselves, right

14:50 Speaker 2: like when they're commenting on others, it's actually it's more

14:53 Speaker 2: interesting and they provide like some background about what it's

14:57 Speaker 2: sort of like when you're filming and what happens. Like

15:00 Speaker 2: his context, Teddy mentioned that her first season on the

15:03 Speaker 2: Real House was of Beverly Hills, that Edwin had been

15:06 Speaker 2: cheating on her, and she never shared that publicly on

15:10 Speaker 2: the show. That so if she says, if you go

15:14 Speaker 2: back and you watch her scenes, there's this like underlying tension,

15:19 Speaker 2: and it's it's because of that. Now it sounds like

15:23 Speaker 2: in recent days more has been uncovered about that cheating

15:26 Speaker 2: and that that affair that he may have had may

15:29 Speaker 2: have been over a year long, so a really serious

15:33 Speaker 2: offense in the marriage. They stayed together, decided to work

15:37 Speaker 2: it out, and then now you know, they had another child,

15:42 Speaker 2: right we all saw her pregnant and boring on the show,

15:45 Speaker 2: and then I guess in recent months she had decided

15:51 Speaker 2: to have an affair with a horse trainer. She is

15:55 Speaker 2: a horse rider, she's a you know, equestrian. And this

16:01 Speaker 2: guy is also married and his wife was pregnant with

16:07 Speaker 2: their second child and delivered that second child alone without

16:12 Speaker 2: her husband because he was off gallivanting in Florida with

16:17 Speaker 2: none other than Teddy Mellencamp.

16:19 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, so that's all too, That's what

16:24 Speaker 1: I saw.

16:24 Speaker 2: I don't know how much of it is accurate, but

16:26 Speaker 2: I did talk to someone who is friends her and

16:31 Speaker 2: was like, I think it happened.

16:33 Speaker 1: So the equestrian community I'm also hearing is very small

16:37 Speaker 1: and randomly. I have a few friends who are intently

16:42 Speaker 1: tied into the equestrian community this time.

16:46 Speaker 2: I have a friend who is too, but.

16:49 Speaker 1: If she knows their actual field of life, one of

16:53 Speaker 1: them married a jockey. Like it's a whole thing equan

16:56 Speaker 1: sciences and they're like horse trainers and things like that,

16:59 Speaker 1: and don't watch housewives. So I knew to do my

17:04 Speaker 1: due diligence, it'd be like, yeah, no, let me see,

17:09 Speaker 1: was there a thing and what is going on? And

17:12 Speaker 1: I too have some pretty confident sources that say like.

17:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, me, yeah, the thing. I do feel bad for

17:24 Speaker 2: Teddy about is that she has been battling cancer for

17:28 Speaker 2: a number of years and she has very serious melanoma.

17:34 Speaker 2: So she has had I don't even know, like maybe

17:36 Speaker 2: sixteen melanomas remove something absolutely wild, but it really is

17:41 Speaker 2: a life threatening illness. And so I know that it's

17:44 Speaker 2: been really tough, and I think she's been very brave

17:48 Speaker 2: to speak out to show her body and its scars.

17:52 Speaker 2: And you know, I'm sure if she's not receiving that

17:56 Speaker 2: support at home, she's looking for that love and support

18:00 Speaker 2: or elsewhere. And you know it sounds like Edwin and

18:03 Speaker 2: you know how he's really religious, like you know, so

18:06 Speaker 2: I always feel like it's the people who are like

18:09 Speaker 2: all about their weird churches offense, but like that are

18:13 Speaker 2: doing the stuff that Christians aren't supposed to do, right,

18:17 Speaker 2: Like can't you just like mind your own business, Like

18:20 Speaker 2: why are you going around telling everyone that they have

18:23 Speaker 2: to behave a certain way and act a certain way

18:25 Speaker 2: and all that, and then you are cheating on.

18:29 Speaker 1: Your wife for a long time. That's so crazy. Yeah,

18:32 Speaker 1: it's like morality police, Yeah, exactly. So many different documentaries

18:37 Speaker 1: and had conversations with regular people who they let their

18:41 Speaker 1: religion be the guide of their moral compass, which fine

18:44 Speaker 1: if that's for you, but then don't really follow it themselves.

18:47 Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's so interesting, so interesting, it is interesting,

18:52 Speaker 1: and you know, I will say that, you know, cancer

18:55 Speaker 1: is very serious. I think that I feel really badly

18:58 Speaker 1: for Teddy in that I've actually been the only reason

19:01 Speaker 1: I still followed her is because of that journey. I

19:05 Speaker 1: want to know how she was doing. I remember her daughter,

19:07 Speaker 1: when she had her daughter, that was there was a

19:09 Speaker 1: lot of medical complications there, and I wanted to make

19:13 Speaker 1: sure that her daughter, Dove I think, was you know,

19:15 Speaker 1: also good like that, you know matter. I think she's

19:18 Speaker 1: a great mom. I just think she made a terrible housewife.

19:20 Speaker 1: I didn't like her as a housewife, but I like

19:23 Speaker 1: her as a human being. And I hear because she

19:26 Speaker 1: is really good on their show, like on their podcast,

19:28 Speaker 1: and it's yeah, interesting.

19:30 Speaker 2: I think she's a decent person. Like I don't think

19:33 Speaker 2: she's a and I don't like to label people as

19:36 Speaker 2: like good or bad. I just I don't think she

19:38 Speaker 2: is this like terrible human being, right. But what kills

19:42 Speaker 2: me is that she made the statement saying that she's

19:45 Speaker 2: divorcing Edwin. It was not a joint statement. It was

19:48 Speaker 2: not like please respect her privacy. At this time, I

19:50 Speaker 2: thought I was on our kids up. I thought that too, right,

19:55 Speaker 2: And then.

19:56 Speaker 1: Look it was so I've decided to leave.

20:01 Speaker 2: Yeah wait, but not only that. Apparently the horse trainer's

20:08 Speaker 2: wife found out and confronted, and then Teddy was like,

20:12 Speaker 2: I promised it won't happen again. That's an insane thing

20:17 Speaker 2: to like, what do you mean you promise it won't

20:20 Speaker 2: happen again? Like you're all done? Like f you all?

20:22 Speaker 2: Like that's what I would do? Are you kidding me?

20:25 Speaker 2: And the other thing that made me laugh is like

20:28 Speaker 2: she keeps saying, like, are my kids are my priority?

20:31 Speaker 2: Were your kids your priority when you were in Florida

20:34 Speaker 2: fucking this other person's husband? Yeah, like they were you

20:39 Speaker 2: thinking about your kids and the impact that it would

20:41 Speaker 2: have on them? No, Like, what do you mean who's

20:44 Speaker 2: watching your children? Is you just like leave Edwin all

20:47 Speaker 2: the time and keep running around and having this affair.

20:50 Speaker 2: It's just crazy to me.

20:51 Speaker 1: It's crazy because and also to make it seem so

20:54 Speaker 1: one sided to release that statement ahead of time, it's

20:58 Speaker 1: like it really gave like let me get ahead of

20:59 Speaker 1: this in whatever way that I need to, but also

21:03 Speaker 1: it formulated a narrative that I'm pretty sure she knew

21:06 Speaker 1: was formulating that we were like what did Edwin do?

21:09 Speaker 1: Whether you knew he was having an affair or not,

21:10 Speaker 1: You're just like this seems very much, so like I

21:12 Speaker 1: have to go. Yeah, I've given it all I can.

21:16 Speaker 1: I can't give any more, and I would like to leave.

21:19 Speaker 1: But like you're doing the dirty thing so and you're

21:24 Speaker 1: not thinking about your kids then, so why should I

21:26 Speaker 1: respect your privacy during this time? You're also not an

21:28 Speaker 1: infamous person.

21:30 Speaker 2: And I also I don't think anyone was currently cheating,

21:34 Speaker 2: Like I think this happened like eight years ago or

21:37 Speaker 2: something like like a while ago. Chose exactly like you

21:42 Speaker 2: chose to stay. You guys recommitted to each other, and

21:45 Speaker 2: then you stepped out, Like I don't know. All of

21:48 Speaker 2: it is just like why, I don't know why is

21:52 Speaker 2: it so hard for people to I get it when

21:55 Speaker 2: you have children and everything, But like, if you want

21:57 Speaker 2: to step out, why not just end it? Like isn't

22:00 Speaker 2: that an indication that your marriage is over? If you

22:03 Speaker 2: want to step out and you had committed to monogamy

22:06 Speaker 2: to begin with.

22:07 Speaker 1: Yes, especially by I don't know, having a pregnant wife

22:11 Speaker 1: and a baby.

22:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was That's that's insane, right, And

22:17 Speaker 2: it just shows me that I just feel like so

22:18 Speaker 2: many couples have kids to try and save a marriage,

22:22 Speaker 2: and I just think it makes it worse, like it does.

22:26 Speaker 1: And my mom, my mom has often you know, told

22:29 Speaker 1: me that, like you know, people think that she's she

22:32 Speaker 1: stayed with my dad for the kids, and I often,

22:35 Speaker 1: like me and I often like to remind people that

22:38 Speaker 1: as a kid of parents who are divorced, I'm much

22:40 Speaker 1: happier after they were no longer together. The years where

22:43 Speaker 1: they forced it and strained it for my benefit were

22:46 Speaker 1: the worst years of my life. So I want to

22:50 Speaker 1: go very far, far, far far away from home. So

22:53 Speaker 1: I highly suggest not staying together for the kids. That's why, Stacy,

22:58 Speaker 1: I have some questions for you about what you think

23:00 Speaker 1: you're doing is best for your daughter over because.

23:04 Speaker 2: Yes, stand mail, Oh my god, and this girl is eight.

23:08 Speaker 2: It's not like she's two, right, she knows, she's not dumb,

23:12 Speaker 2: she knows what's going on as an.

23:14 Speaker 1: Educator of eight and nine year olds. Let me tell

23:17 Speaker 1: you something I tell y'all all the time. Your kid's

23:19 Speaker 1: telling you. Your kids talk about you. They do. They

23:23 Speaker 1: tell me all the things and I put them in

23:24 Speaker 1: my teacher group chats and I send it and I

23:27 Speaker 1: put it on the podcast and the memes and stuff.

23:29 Speaker 1: Your kids know what's going on, they just do so

23:34 Speaker 1: and like and we'll get to Stacy in a second,

23:37 Speaker 1: but like for the purposes of the kids, like they

23:40 Speaker 1: know what's happening. So whether or not, like whatever, I don't.

23:43 Speaker 1: I just really want to know what you're framing it

23:45 Speaker 1: in front of your kids. Study misaccountability coach with an

23:48 Speaker 1: a company, and I'm sensitive. I think I'm sensitive to

23:52 Speaker 1: that also because I'm an ed survivor and I'm still

23:56 Speaker 1: constantly in recovery and that has been really really hard,

24:00 Speaker 1: especially with being one different weight loss management things and

24:02 Speaker 1: like that kind of stuff. So it's it's it's like

24:06 Speaker 1: her program is very triggering I know for a lot

24:09 Speaker 1: of people who do who are recovered eadie or want

24:12 Speaker 1: to uh you know, lose weight in a in a

24:14 Speaker 1: way of being accountable. And I've always liked that about her.

24:18 Speaker 1: I'm like, accountability is something I have an issue with internally.

24:21 Speaker 1: I know is probably why I don't like her because

24:23 Speaker 1: I don't like being held accountable, so show her. That's

24:27 Speaker 1: where we like agree to disagree. Our vibes don't match.

24:30 Speaker 1: But also, if you're going to be an accountability coach,

24:34 Speaker 1: don't have an affair on your husband while he's like.

24:38 Speaker 2: No, I'm only accountable to eating five hundred calories a day.

24:42 Speaker 1: Exactly having a perier is not what I'm looking for

24:49 Speaker 1: in accountability. It's someone who knows that they have messed

24:52 Speaker 1: up and knows how to get back on the horse

24:54 Speaker 1: or no pun intended, or like how to figure out

24:57 Speaker 1: a solution or figure out another way, or how to

25:01 Speaker 1: make amends, like any of those things. But no, we

25:04 Speaker 1: jumped to a statement that nobody asked for, very randomly,

25:09 Speaker 1: and then a non statement. Did you see that? A

25:13 Speaker 1: non statement when everybody is asking for one when we

25:17 Speaker 1: all find out And I think she said something like

25:21 Speaker 1: when they're like committed to putting you in the darkness,

25:23 Speaker 1: you just got to like find your light or something

25:24 Speaker 1: like that, something real ridiculously on irrelevant.

25:28 Speaker 2: Maybe her and her boyfriend are stepping into the light

25:30 Speaker 2: as a couple.

25:32 Speaker 1: Right, file the papers. It's not hard.

25:35 Speaker 2: Wait where the papers not filed? I thought they were

25:38 Speaker 2: when she put that message.

25:40 Speaker 1: Probably, but I mean, like, just like do the thing,

25:42 Speaker 1: like make it official.

25:43 Speaker 2: Oh you know what else I heard? I heard she

25:46 Speaker 2: rushed to file before he could file, so that he

25:48 Speaker 2: couldn't file based off of infidelity.

25:53 Speaker 1: Oh love that. I'm not gonna lie.

25:57 Speaker 2: And Ralph okay, I really am so insane. People are

26:04 Speaker 2: just wild and you know what, like, what is the

26:06 Speaker 2: point was this teddy when we were interested in watching

26:10 Speaker 2: the real this one?

26:12 Speaker 1: This is a county mess. I love her. I'm not

26:16 Speaker 1: gonna lie. Just own it. Own it, baby, like owne

26:20 Speaker 1: it like you're you made a mess. You're in a

26:22 Speaker 1: messy situation, girly, we love mess. This is fine. Let's

26:27 Speaker 1: figure this out, Let's talk about it and go on

26:30 Speaker 1: your podcast, and don't make excuses like I heard I

26:33 Speaker 1: did not listen. Did you listen to they addressed it briefly.

26:36 Speaker 2: I listened to like a minute of it or whatever

26:39 Speaker 2: was posted on the people's instagram.

26:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like I already knew from the first

26:46 Speaker 1: five minutes that it wasn't gonna be what I wanted

26:48 Speaker 1: it to be, which really was just accountability. Like I

26:52 Speaker 1: don't need you to dog him. I don't need you

26:53 Speaker 1: to say anything like I love what I was doing.

26:56 Speaker 1: I just want you to be like, people make messes,

26:58 Speaker 1: and you know, if you are going to share so

27:00 Speaker 1: openly that he cheated before.

27:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, she wasn't super open about it. I mean she

27:06 Speaker 2: said like we were dealing with infidelity on that first

27:10 Speaker 2: season and chose not to share it and that kind

27:12 Speaker 2: of thing. So I mean, I because she wants probably

27:16 Speaker 2: custody of her kids and something out of that marriage, right,

27:20 Speaker 2: I think she has to keep her mouth shut, and

27:22 Speaker 2: I think it would be really damn stupid to talk

27:26 Speaker 2: about a divorce publicly.

27:29 Speaker 1: I think she should finalize everything before she even says

27:33 Speaker 1: another word or does another thing. I'm pretty sure she

27:35 Speaker 1: is her focus.

27:37 Speaker 2: No, I think she's made what she said made total sense.

27:39 Speaker 2: It was like, I'm not really talking about this. I'll

27:42 Speaker 2: say more at some point, but right now.

27:45 Speaker 1: I be better And Bravo, don't just give it to

27:47 Speaker 1: her openly, like let her at least go auditional watch

27:50 Speaker 1: what Happens Live or something first, but it'll go home

27:52 Speaker 1: with Amy Sue Again. I hate Hammer so much. I'm

27:57 Speaker 1: sorry it has been keeping me up lately.

28:00 Speaker 2: Rely. I so I'm not a fan of Tamra, but

28:04 Speaker 2: I do feel like she may be a necessary component

28:07 Speaker 2: of OC. However, I feel like people are finally realizing

28:12 Speaker 2: the kind of mess that she has pulled, and I

28:14 Speaker 2: really want next season for her to be held accountable

28:17 Speaker 2: by a number of the folks on the cast and.

28:20 Speaker 1: Love them too, but yeah, that.

28:22 Speaker 2: Would be an interesting season to watch, to be like,

28:24 Speaker 2: we see what you're doing, this is what you're doing.

28:26 Speaker 2: You're doing this in order to bring up this topic

28:29 Speaker 2: so that one of us says that and then we

28:31 Speaker 2: focus on this other area instead of you and all

28:33 Speaker 2: the mess that you make.

28:36 Speaker 1: But also like, do we think we've done that before

28:40 Speaker 1: with Camra or no? Which I feel like, why was

28:44 Speaker 1: she running away?

28:45 Speaker 2: Oh that was a long time ago.

28:46 Speaker 1: Yes, being confronted with truths about herself.

28:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, she, which is crazy, has.

28:56 Speaker 1: Been an accountability coach.

28:58 Speaker 2: The thing is that is is that she gets hurt, right,

29:03 Speaker 2: So she's like, don't talk about my daughter, my relationship

29:06 Speaker 2: or my non relationship with my daughter, my daughter, right,

29:10 Speaker 2: and she and she feels very deeply hurt by other

29:13 Speaker 2: people bringing it up. So why doesn't she understand that

29:17 Speaker 2: she can hurt others? But this is what's so wild

29:20 Speaker 2: like if you get hurt, don't you know that feeling?

29:23 Speaker 2: And then someone's like, hey, you know that feeling something

29:26 Speaker 2: that you said made me feel that way. It's it's

29:30 Speaker 2: and it's the most like ineffective, Like it's it's been

29:33 Speaker 2: so tough watching her with Shannon because it's nothing like

29:37 Speaker 2: what anyone would recommend an alan On And if you

29:41 Speaker 2: believe that your friend is an alcoholic, then go to

29:44 Speaker 2: an alan On meeting. Deal with it that way. Don't

29:48 Speaker 2: scream at her and then not going to Yeah, it's

29:51 Speaker 2: not going to fix the problem. If that's indeed what the.

29:54 Speaker 1: Problem is, tell them that you're also like siding with

29:58 Speaker 1: John and all these things. And I made a point.

30:00 Speaker 1: Someone made a meme. I'm sorry, I forget who it was.

30:03 Speaker 1: And I remember commenting like, you would think that the

30:07 Speaker 1: woman who spent so much time telling us that, oh,

30:12 Speaker 1: being you know, sued for what we said was like

30:15 Speaker 1: the worst thing in my life. It was the worst.

30:18 Speaker 1: It was so financially draining and it really caused a

30:21 Speaker 1: lot of turmoil. I don't even remember why I was

30:24 Speaker 1: saying that. But Timmy did something.

30:26 Speaker 2: And oh her and.

30:28 Speaker 1: Spending someone a season desist.

30:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, so but her and Shannon got sued by Jimbalino

30:34 Speaker 2: for correctly stating that trampoline parks are dangerous for children.

30:41 Speaker 1: They are, and how many don't go now or are?

30:44 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's the actual official policy of the American

30:46 Speaker 2: Academy Pediatrics that like, trampolines are bad basically and to

30:49 Speaker 2: cause it. It's not worth having one. It's not worth

30:52 Speaker 2: bringing your kids to trampoline parks.

30:54 Speaker 1: Like especially a part of just like open bouncy floors.

30:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I mean the amount of kids that have

31:00 Speaker 2: you know, had like extreme disability as a result of

31:05 Speaker 2: things going wrong. So you know, eventually they won that lawsuit.

31:09 Speaker 2: They did not defame him by correctly stating that there

31:13 Speaker 2: are issues with this type of park that he uses

31:18 Speaker 2: as a business, Like, it does not defaming his business.

31:20 Speaker 2: It's like publicly acknowledging acknowledged. Yeah so, but but it's

31:27 Speaker 2: crazy that they didn't the attorney's fees didn't have to

31:31 Speaker 2: get paid by him.

31:35 Speaker 1: Oh that's what it is. Tamera sent a cease and

31:39 Speaker 1: desist to the Bravo babee. Oh I don't understand. Okay,

31:46 Speaker 1: I don't know inherently, and I don't have any money.

31:50 Speaker 1: So allegedly deep alleged the Bravo Babe like turned out

31:58 Speaker 1: some proof that Realcity blurb, which is a very popular,

32:02 Speaker 1: very big social media presence.

32:05 Speaker 2: If there was no proof, anyone can manipulate set. No,

32:09 Speaker 2: it's like an It's an easily manipulatable website. It's like

32:13 Speaker 2: more so than Wikipedia, like you can just go in

32:15 Speaker 2: and change stuff, like someone could just go make up

32:19 Speaker 2: that Tamera is somehow involved in whatever that side is,

32:23 Speaker 2: but there's literally no proof what. There's nothing that annoys

32:27 Speaker 2: me more than when people say that they have receipts

32:30 Speaker 2: and those are not actual receipts.

32:32 Speaker 1: Yes, I know. It's it's like similar when there was

32:37 Speaker 1: a finder on Potomac and I didn't get to we

32:39 Speaker 1: didn't get to see inside of it. There have been

32:42 Speaker 1: giant screenshots and they didn't deliver the right way, or

32:47 Speaker 1: in King's case, like we've printed things that get us

32:49 Speaker 1: fired because they were a little too far. And then

32:52 Speaker 1: of course I think that really they just wanted to

32:55 Speaker 1: have their receipts proof timelines moment of it's another Bravo

33:01 Speaker 1: LB quote unquote, which Monica was really not a Bravo LB.

33:04 Speaker 1: It's also a in the inner workings of like the

33:08 Speaker 1: Bravo fandom community.

33:10 Speaker 2: There are a lot of things to criticize Tama for.

33:12 Speaker 2: This is not one of them. And I think it

33:16 Speaker 2: says more about the content creators that are trying to

33:19 Speaker 2: put themselves into the storyline and cause drama and pick

33:23 Speaker 2: fights with Bravo lbs so that they can be the

33:26 Speaker 2: ones that are talked about. And they think any attention

33:29 Speaker 2: is good attention. And I, for one just want to

33:32 Speaker 2: watch my Bravo lbs have their issues. I don't want

33:35 Speaker 2: to see content creators like in the mix, like the

33:38 Speaker 2: up and atom stuff on Salt Lake is messy. I'm

33:41 Speaker 2: not into it, this Bravo babe, Like, I'm just not

33:45 Speaker 2: into it, Like stop, you know.

33:47 Speaker 1: Thing to happen to my Salt Lake girls. I just

33:50 Speaker 1: want them to be like again, like you said, a

33:53 Speaker 1: ton of stuff we can go for Tamba about and

33:55 Speaker 1: I'm rah at charge. But and I think the thing

33:59 Speaker 1: is that she's threatening some cease and desists, which doesn't

34:02 Speaker 1: actually mean that there was any like there's any legal

34:05 Speaker 1: action as of yet. But it's interesting how we know

34:08 Speaker 1: about the cease and desists is because of TikTok or

34:13 Speaker 1: you're not Sea single desisting.

34:16 Speaker 2: So I'm just like, huh, camera threatens legal action at

34:21 Speaker 2: like tons of content creators, and most of them just

34:24 Speaker 2: get scared because they don't have the funds to be

34:27 Speaker 2: able to fight a lawsuit. But the truth is she

34:29 Speaker 2: doesn't really have standing in most things. However, she could

34:34 Speaker 2: bring certain lawsuits and like waste her money on things

34:39 Speaker 2: like that. But most of the time, I think she's

34:42 Speaker 2: just trying to scare people from talking. And sometimes people

34:47 Speaker 2: should be scared about what they say and think a

34:49 Speaker 2: little bit more carefully because they could be defaming someone.

34:53 Speaker 2: But most of the time, I think she's just been

34:56 Speaker 2: an asshole, and you can tell her that and you

34:59 Speaker 2: can fine. I mean, it's so easy in DC to

35:02 Speaker 2: be like find a lawyer, because like every third person.

35:04 Speaker 1: Here is a lawyer.

35:06 Speaker 2: Everybody you can get just to like look at it,

35:10 Speaker 2: and they could be like, oh, this is this, this

35:12 Speaker 2: and this, Like you can just tell them blah blah

35:13 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. They could you know, write a legal

35:16 Speaker 2: letter back to her that makes it sound like you

35:19 Speaker 2: got counsel and you know, like it's yeah.

35:23 Speaker 1: But honestly, Tamra, I will say, and it's just because

35:26 Speaker 1: I can't there is not a day that goes by

35:28 Speaker 1: that I don't try to point out a flaw in

35:30 Speaker 1: Tama's personality as a human being. But you can at

35:35 Speaker 1: the very least say like, this isn't actually deaf faming you,

35:40 Speaker 1: it is maybe incorrect. That is something that there have

35:45 Speaker 1: been worst things said about you by other people than

35:48 Speaker 1: you were being tied to a blog. And I'd like

35:50 Speaker 1: you to actually focus on those interpersonal relationships that are

35:54 Speaker 1: around you and spend our money there, spend our time

35:58 Speaker 1: there about how we've been a bad friend. Because if

36:00 Speaker 1: this is defamation, then what the hell are you doing

36:02 Speaker 1: to shann Right? I mean and go god this season.

36:08 Speaker 2: The standard for defamation that is completely different if you're famous.

36:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.

36:13 Speaker 2: So the whole thing is just stupid. And you know,

36:16 Speaker 2: if you see someone tweet something about you that's not true,

36:19 Speaker 2: Number one, why the hell are you on Twitter? Like,

36:21 Speaker 2: if it upsets you, get it off, get off it,

36:23 Speaker 2: and then or you can just reproaly be like this

36:25 Speaker 2: isn't true bullshit and then done that.

36:29 Speaker 1: She's like the promise of even other publications, she'll just

36:32 Speaker 1: comment and be like okay, I'll let you someone almost

36:34 Speaker 1: like I can't wait for her air to blow out

36:36 Speaker 1: of steam or something like that. And she said, I'll

36:38 Speaker 1: let you know when I retire, And I was like, Hueen.

36:42 Speaker 2: Love it right. You don't need to take, you know,

36:45 Speaker 2: become litigious. All you have to do is just like

36:48 Speaker 2: comment and say something's true or not true.

36:50 Speaker 1: And it's not true and move on. Move on, y'all.

36:55 Speaker 1: She also has a plot a platform where she can

36:57 Speaker 1: talk as much shit as she wants, like openly, so

37:02 Speaker 1: she uses that just fine. I don't think she needs

37:04 Speaker 1: to have like an Instagram account or anything else. Is

37:08 Speaker 1: she a part of it? Who knows? Who cares? I

37:10 Speaker 1: doubt it. I don't think she has the creative the creativity.

37:15 Speaker 1: She has the opinions and that's why she's on Two

37:16 Speaker 1: Peas and the Bad and they're like the number one podcast.

37:18 Speaker 1: So I think she's, you know, doing just fine. But

37:21 Speaker 1: Tamra as also I say this, like I tell Nicki Minaj,

37:25 Speaker 1: get off the internet. Some people are just too famous

37:30 Speaker 1: to be engaging with the people who are famous. It

37:33 Speaker 1: doesn't go well, ever, Just don't worry cause.

37:36 Speaker 2: Nick make Is just has terrible instincts.

37:41 Speaker 1: She does, but also so does Tamra. So I need

37:43 Speaker 1: them to sit down and get off of Twitter and

37:46 Speaker 1: off of Instagram and stop making stories and posts and

37:49 Speaker 1: just live their rich lives. Just live it. Go to

37:53 Speaker 1: the snow and ski mountain. Okay, not a great transition,

37:57 Speaker 1: but like, what in the hell is going on? And

37:59 Speaker 1: put first of all, Stacy is a queen. I love

38:02 Speaker 1: these newbies. They are delivering for me in so many

38:06 Speaker 1: ways indifferently, like Stacy is full of personality even though

38:10 Speaker 1: she's just like a QVC host personality, like she gives

38:14 Speaker 1: me very much QVC host, but I also am really

38:18 Speaker 1: enjoying her energy around the ladies and just like her quirkiness.

38:23 Speaker 1: A lot of questions. Kierna is probably one of my

38:27 Speaker 1: top paves of the last couple of years. And Jessie.

38:30 Speaker 1: I just have a lot of questions about Jassy.

38:33 Speaker 2: I have the most questions about.

38:34 Speaker 1: I'm just like around, I want to know what's cook it?

38:39 Speaker 2: Yeah no, all the stuff about the timeline with her

38:43 Speaker 2: boyfriend and him having two kids two different women, Yeah no.

38:46 Speaker 2: It was very much like Phedra being saying she was

38:49 Speaker 2: seven months pregnant and the baby was fully cooked. Like

38:53 Speaker 2: that's not how it works, honey.

38:54 Speaker 1: Little Until I was a pregnancy partner for my best

38:58 Speaker 1: friend this summer when she was a last summer, she

39:00 Speaker 1: was a surrogate and the baby literally cooks until like

39:04 Speaker 1: the last three minutes. Like they are like, I think

39:07 Speaker 1: she delivered a little bit early, like maybe a couple

39:09 Speaker 1: weeks and they had to like shoot her with steroids

39:12 Speaker 1: to try to make sure the lungs were functioning. Be okay,

39:15 Speaker 1: because they're like, Oh, the baby stays in there until

39:18 Speaker 1: it wants to come out. That's the best.

39:20 Speaker 2: Option, Like that's the best case scenario.

39:23 Speaker 1: I have a baby dode July twenty first, but he

39:25 Speaker 1: might come any day in mother's day.

39:29 Speaker 2: I'm wondering now, like is she just she think this

39:32 Speaker 2: guy is such a catch because he's an NFL star

39:35 Speaker 2: and that's why she's willing to look the other way.

39:37 Speaker 2: Like that doesn't make sense to me, because the way

39:39 Speaker 2: that she acts on the show is like she has

39:43 Speaker 2: it better than others and she knows more than them,

39:45 Speaker 2: and that they are kind of dumb and make, you know,

39:49 Speaker 2: poor choices, when really she's the one that seems to

39:52 Speaker 2: be making poor choices. But I love it, right, like

39:55 Speaker 2: I love a delusional queen.

39:57 Speaker 1: That's the delusion of a side chick. It's side chick delusion.

40:01 Speaker 1: There's a lot of side chick delusion. I'm a I'm

40:04 Speaker 1: a graduate of basketball wife, so I know a lot

40:07 Speaker 1: about that side chick delusion. Shout out to Kendrick and

40:10 Speaker 1: the gang who still watch and I got off a

40:12 Speaker 1: long time ago because no one's actually related or married

40:14 Speaker 1: to a player anymore. But like that side chick delusion

40:17 Speaker 1: of like he's gonna leave his wife for me, Like

40:20 Speaker 1: they keep that in their head and then they act

40:23 Speaker 1: like they are so much more like in tune with

40:28 Speaker 1: the world around them because they have conquered and maneuver

40:31 Speaker 1: this thing, like they have done that.

40:34 Speaker 2: What's even more wild, though, to me is the wife

40:37 Speaker 2: that's like, well, I'm the wife, you know, and like

40:40 Speaker 2: I'm special, I'm more, I'm better than all these side

40:43 Speaker 2: checks because I'm the wife. It's like the Jackie Oh

40:46 Speaker 2: sort of a dude, and I'm very much that's nothing

40:49 Speaker 2: to be proud of. You're basically saying my husband does

40:53 Speaker 2: not respect me and cheats all cheats on me all

40:57 Speaker 2: the time.

40:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, and and woman that he finds more riveting to

40:59 Speaker 1: be with than me were multiple or multiple, but I

41:04 Speaker 1: think in this case, like Jesse was a side chick

41:06 Speaker 1: that became the main piece and was like, oh, I

41:12 Speaker 1: guess I keep them, and because what do you do

41:16 Speaker 1: after you, you know, catch them and get the perks

41:19 Speaker 1: and the gifts and stuff. Now it's your turn, I guess.

41:21 Speaker 2: I mean, you can get perks and gifts from being

41:24 Speaker 2: married to people in finance that will never treat.

41:27 Speaker 1: You that way.

41:28 Speaker 2: So why go after the athlete. You can't even make

41:31 Speaker 2: money for that long. You know, they have an aspiration date?

41:36 Speaker 1: Have you seen that his x Y, the baby's mother

41:40 Speaker 1: is she has a really big problem with Jazzie mentioning

41:43 Speaker 1: the kids every single episode. And I hadn't noticed that.

41:46 Speaker 1: It was every episode that she's talking at all, that

41:50 Speaker 1: she's talking about somebody else's kids, like always being like,

41:53 Speaker 1: so he met me in February and the baby was okay,

41:59 Speaker 1: So so what do you guys like to do together?

42:01 Speaker 1: So he had his baby in January and then we

42:05 Speaker 1: started officially dating in February, Like we didn't ask that.

42:08 Speaker 2: The only time I've ever seen that work and be

42:10 Speaker 2: true is with Bridget moynihan and Tom Brady, where they

42:15 Speaker 2: had been dating they broke up. She found out she

42:19 Speaker 2: was pregnant. She was like, I'm not getting rid of

42:21 Speaker 2: this baby, and Tom Brady was like, great, we'll raise

42:25 Speaker 2: this kid together. And they did and it was beautiful

42:29 Speaker 2: and the child seems lovely and loved and you know,

42:34 Speaker 2: and that seemed to be like because we all thought

42:36 Speaker 2: that was super messy, right because he started, he stepped

42:39 Speaker 2: out with Giselle, and then all of a sudden his

42:41 Speaker 2: acts is pregnant. But there was no overlap with that,

42:44 Speaker 2: and everyone was on the same page and acted so

42:49 Speaker 2: mature about the situation. It doesn't feel that way in.

42:52 Speaker 1: Jes No, there's a lot of overlap, and that's why

42:56 Speaker 1: she wants us to know for a fact that there

42:59 Speaker 1: was a different and in timeline. But as we also

43:02 Speaker 1: know with Fedra, you're lying. So it's not because it

43:05 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense, and it doesn't make sense because it's untrue.

43:09 Speaker 1: So it's just fascinating to watch the ladies' reactions that

43:14 Speaker 1: she's like continuously like I think the producers made a

43:17 Speaker 1: nice little edit of how many times she's brought up

43:19 Speaker 1: the fact that his kids were born before there was

43:22 Speaker 1: a break and things, and she's in this pocket and

43:26 Speaker 1: she's done it like six times, So it's just like,

43:28 Speaker 1: huh okay.

43:29 Speaker 2: Seems like the women on Potomac, for the most part,

43:35 Speaker 2: are have all been cheated on and all try to

43:39 Speaker 2: make it seem like it's not as big of a

43:41 Speaker 2: deal as it is until they feel like making it

43:44 Speaker 2: a big deal, Like Giselle had been married to someone

43:46 Speaker 2: who was constantly cheating on her and having children with

43:50 Speaker 2: other women. You've got Ashley whose husband was found you know,

43:55 Speaker 2: at a casino, like naked in someone's room. You've got

43:59 Speaker 2: Wanda right and no, Robin's no longer on the show,

44:02 Speaker 2: but like very obviously cheating on her. Like there's so many.

44:07 Speaker 2: Now we've got Karen cheating on Ray. We've got It's like,

44:13 Speaker 2: I don't think it ever stopped.

44:14 Speaker 1: I don't think it ever stopped either. Do we still

44:16 Speaker 1: think this is blue eyes or is this? Yes?

44:19 Speaker 2: I think because he keeps getting brought up that I

44:21 Speaker 2: think it's a long term boyfriend.

44:24 Speaker 1: That's my belief, and I'm not gonna lie go off Karen.

44:28 Speaker 2: It makes me sad because Ray seems kind of nice

44:31 Speaker 2: except for when.

44:32 Speaker 1: I don't think Ray is notaive. He's been around the block,

44:35 Speaker 1: like I totally she don't think she's having an affair.

44:37 Speaker 1: I think she doesn't want the women in her.

44:39 Speaker 2: Business, so he's like cool with it.

44:42 Speaker 1: I think there's an arrangement, not the same as like

44:44 Speaker 1: a Michael and Ashley situation where I think they used

44:47 Speaker 1: to do things together. She expressed for like.

44:49 Speaker 2: A Mia and Gordon's situation exactly.

44:51 Speaker 1: I think this is like the well she has her

44:54 Speaker 1: thing on the side sometimes because he's young, I mean

44:56 Speaker 1: he's old. He wants to settle down and Karen's just

44:58 Speaker 1: now getting her swim in and wanted to do the stuff.

45:01 Speaker 1: But I think that it was never supposed to be messy.

45:03 Speaker 1: It wasn't supposed to embarrass him. And that's the problem

45:06 Speaker 1: is that the more famous y'all get, the more embarrassing

45:09 Speaker 1: it will be. Come when we find out, and we

45:11 Speaker 1: always find out, what do you think you're gonna do?

45:15 Speaker 1: Drive around where you're on a TV show with somebody

45:18 Speaker 1: and kiss somebody that you is not your husband that

45:20 Speaker 1: we know.

45:22 Speaker 2: The only person who I think's partner really respects them

45:26 Speaker 2: is Wendy.

45:28 Speaker 1: Love Eddie. Yes, literally, I'm not gonna lie y'all can't

45:33 Speaker 1: see me, but I have a happy Eddie in my

45:36 Speaker 1: hands right now. And me and Wendy have actually had

45:41 Speaker 1: conversation about how much I love it and how great

45:44 Speaker 1: it is and how much I love him, and she's like, girl,

45:47 Speaker 1: me too, And I love that for her.

45:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he loves her, he respects her, he's

45:53 Speaker 2: supportive of her so much, and but that's how it

45:56 Speaker 2: should be, and she loves him. I would never in

45:59 Speaker 2: a million year think that she would step out on

46:01 Speaker 2: that man. She's too busy, she's got too many kids.

46:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we just want to make money for our

46:08 Speaker 1: family and have a nice life.

46:09 Speaker 2: Okay, how do people have time to cheat? I feel

46:11 Speaker 2: like that would be so exhausting. Do you have like

46:14 Speaker 2: a separate shared calendar? Do you? You know? I was talking

46:17 Speaker 2: about some high profile cheating that happened in the DC

46:22 Speaker 2: area in terms of politics, and we were like going

46:26 Speaker 2: over and one was General David Petraeus. He cheated on

46:31 Speaker 2: his wife, who was like a huge military family supporter,

46:36 Speaker 2: with someone who I think it was his biographer. And

46:40 Speaker 2: the way that they kept it going for so long

46:42 Speaker 2: is they had a shared Gmail account and would send

46:44 Speaker 2: each other messages in drafts and then delete the drafts,

46:48 Speaker 2: so they would both log in to see what each

46:50 Speaker 2: other wrote and then delete the drafts. And that is

46:54 Speaker 2: so much to go through. Some side ass.

46:59 Speaker 1: Like yeah, they pop you an edible, go to dinner

47:05 Speaker 1: and eat a steak or something and have a nice time,

47:08 Speaker 1: but that adventure that would that's too much work. I'm exhausted.

47:11 Speaker 2: And the thing is is that these people aren't interested

47:14 Speaker 2: in polyamory, because if you wanted to be polyamorous, you

47:16 Speaker 2: have to be open and honest about who you're with,

47:20 Speaker 2: and so they I think they get off on having

47:23 Speaker 2: a secret.

47:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's weird to me. I don't know. It's

47:26 Speaker 1: so strange married I don't get it. And I'm tired. Man.

47:29 Speaker 1: I work hard. I do a lot of stuff. I

47:31 Speaker 1: don't have time to add any other emotional like things

47:35 Speaker 1: onto my plate, which also is another reason why again

47:38 Speaker 1: I'm back at Stacy and what the hell are we

47:41 Speaker 1: doing because she's not fully divorced. They're rotating in and

47:45 Speaker 1: out of this house. I didn't have a problem with that.

47:47 Speaker 1: I think nesting is actually makes a lot of sense.

47:49 Speaker 1: And as someone who you know works with kids, I

47:52 Speaker 1: actually think the kids having a stable environment and the

47:54 Speaker 1: adults who choose to live different lives, I think they

47:56 Speaker 1: should have the hardship and not the child just because

47:59 Speaker 1: it really affects them in school. Like really, so go

48:03 Speaker 1: ahead and get your divorces. People don't stay for the

48:06 Speaker 1: kids because that also affects them, but also don't uproot

48:09 Speaker 1: their lives and stuff, because that is when they start having,

48:13 Speaker 1: you know, the really hard things. I don't think Stacey's

48:15 Speaker 1: doing the right thing and not telling their daughter, yeah,

48:18 Speaker 1: staying that she's like I understand that she thinks that

48:22 Speaker 1: the best thing to do is to wait until they

48:24 Speaker 1: have everything figured out in case she has questions. However,

48:29 Speaker 1: I like to see that and raise children are actually

48:32 Speaker 1: quite understanding and quite resilient. They just want to know

48:36 Speaker 1: that they will know. They don't need to know right now,

48:39 Speaker 1: but you can let them know upfront. As mommy and

48:41 Speaker 1: daddy figure this out, you will be the first to

48:44 Speaker 1: know and will include you in every step and decision

48:46 Speaker 1: that we make to make sure that you're comfortable. And

48:49 Speaker 1: she's gonna be just fine with that. But not telling

48:52 Speaker 1: her it's gonna all the time. It just doesn't want

48:58 Speaker 1: to spend time with me, what are you doing?

48:59 Speaker 2: No, or just dropping it on her like and being

49:02 Speaker 2: like so we're getting divorced and was moving out and

49:05 Speaker 2: this is happening, and then you'll be with Daddy on

49:08 Speaker 2: these days and that'll be like all overnight, just a.

49:11 Speaker 1: Cool change whelming info.

49:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can do a drip drip.

49:15 Speaker 1: Drip, Yeah you can, and I think that's actually the

49:18 Speaker 1: best way to do it. And honestly, like I had

49:21 Speaker 1: a drip drip drip kind of you know, divorced upbringing,

49:24 Speaker 1: but it was the toxic time where like, you know,

49:27 Speaker 1: you would just know that the fights are getting worse

49:28 Speaker 1: and worse and worse and worse, and then you're just like,

49:31 Speaker 1: this is happening, right, Like you get old enough to

49:33 Speaker 1: be like, is there a way to stop parents from fighting?

49:37 Speaker 1: And you type that into Google and Google is like

49:39 Speaker 1: divorce And I'm like, I remember being like twelve or

49:43 Speaker 1: thirteen and asking my mom one night random like are

49:45 Speaker 1: you and Daddy getting divorced? And she was like, why

49:47 Speaker 1: would you say that? Was like, because you hate each other?

49:49 Speaker 1: And I so and I'm again having a miserable time.

49:55 Speaker 2: Oh my god, do you know the time that I

49:56 Speaker 2: thought my parents were at divorced? Is my dad company

50:00 Speaker 2: gave him a company car, but he's a part owner

50:03 Speaker 2: of this company, so you would think he would have

50:04 Speaker 2: more of a say, but he didn't really and it

50:07 Speaker 2: was a German car, and my mother lost her goddamn mind.

50:11 Speaker 2: We're Jewish, and you know a lot of the German

50:14 Speaker 2: car companies were actively involved in the Holocaust, which is

50:20 Speaker 2: why if you go to Israel, like there's all these

50:22 Speaker 2: Mercedes there, because they felt so bad. They like Mercedes

50:26 Speaker 2: keep sending cars and.

50:28 Speaker 1: Trust wait, I kind of love that. That's how they're

50:31 Speaker 1: trying to get right. Oh, I think that's cute.

50:33 Speaker 2: It's I think it's adorable.

50:35 Speaker 1: I think it's so funny.

50:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, seriously, and Germany has done actual reparations, so like,

50:44 Speaker 2: no hate to Germany. But my mom, you know, being

50:47 Speaker 2: the you know, next generation after the Holocaust, and almost

50:50 Speaker 2: all of her friend's parents were survivors, and you know,

50:53 Speaker 2: we in the synagogue I grew up, and I would

50:56 Speaker 2: say like one out of every four adults over age

50:59 Speaker 2: sixty was a acaust survivor probably, And so it was

51:02 Speaker 2: like she was losing her mind. She was so mad

51:05 Speaker 2: at my dad and she's like, you know, I can't

51:08 Speaker 2: believe you're like it's like a Hitler mobile, and my

51:12 Speaker 2: dad goes, I didn't realize Hitler drove an suv, and

51:18 Speaker 2: like they didn't speak for like three days. So my

51:20 Speaker 2: dad slept in the guest room and my brother and

51:23 Speaker 2: I were like, this is it. This is gonna break them.

51:25 Speaker 2: And then finally they started talking. I don't know what

51:30 Speaker 2: who broke the ice, and I think it was my

51:31 Speaker 2: mom just being like, you can't park with them three

51:33 Speaker 2: blocks of the Synegague and it was over.

51:38 Speaker 1: That's hilarious.

51:39 Speaker 2: But she just kept on making these comments anytime we

51:41 Speaker 2: were in the car. So the c you know, back

51:44 Speaker 2: in the day, like the CD player was a big deal,

51:46 Speaker 2: and the CD player was in the back of the

51:49 Speaker 2: car and it had six cs like opportunity to have

51:51 Speaker 2: six CDs. But if you wanted to add a new CD,

51:54 Speaker 2: you literally had to do it before you drove. And

51:56 Speaker 2: my mom would be like, oh, like the Germans, that's

51:59 Speaker 2: so stupid.

52:00 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's what.

52:04 Speaker 2: Well, my mother's made a name its German.

52:07 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, right, so it's that's fun. She's fully in

52:14 Speaker 1: down to say whatever she finished.

52:15 Speaker 2: She could say what she wants. But oh man, was

52:17 Speaker 2: that fight big. That was the big one.

52:20 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that Hitler drove a s uv is.

52:23 Speaker 2: Anything, and he was trying to like joke his way

52:27 Speaker 2: out of it, and she.

52:28 Speaker 1: Was just she was not having that. She tell me.

52:34 Speaker 2: Parking, you will not shame me at temple.

52:40 Speaker 1: Yes, like in and out if you have to to

52:43 Speaker 1: keep it around back. But like the.

52:45 Speaker 2: Truth is is I did like look around at the

52:48 Speaker 2: synagogue parking lot and there was there was only one

52:51 Speaker 2: person who drove a Volkswagon and like people did like

52:54 Speaker 2: make side comments.

52:56 Speaker 1: I drive a lun day so I'm good.

52:59 Speaker 2: No, I mean this was also in the nineties.

53:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was a little bit closser. You know,

53:06 Speaker 1: I find it very funny. I think that's a door.

53:09 Speaker 1: I think your parents sound adorable, but like I love

53:12 Speaker 1: that that in the three day fight them Like wow,

53:14 Speaker 1: I know you didn't just wow, okay, like but that's

53:18 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, right, Like at least though, like there

53:21 Speaker 1: was and how old were you and your brother when

53:23 Speaker 1: this happened.

53:24 Speaker 2: I was in high school and he might have been

53:25 Speaker 2: in middle school. And yeah, you're just like we didn't

53:29 Speaker 2: really think so, but we're like we've never seen them

53:31 Speaker 2: not talk for this long. Yeah, So it was my

53:34 Speaker 2: dad just avoiding, like he wasn't actively not talking. It

53:38 Speaker 2: was my mom actively not talking, and my dad was

53:40 Speaker 2: just like trying to stand.

53:42 Speaker 1: Away, understand mom, and until I want to talk again

53:46 Speaker 1: and tell you what to do with yourself, and then

53:49 Speaker 1: I'm going to go back to not talking. But that's

53:52 Speaker 1: literally what I'm saying is like at eight, they're also

53:56 Speaker 1: understanding things about their parents' relationship, Like they're not talking

53:59 Speaker 1: like that, they're not spending time together, they're not sleeping

54:01 Speaker 1: in the same room. Mommy's at work like these kinds

54:04 Speaker 1: of things. She's not stupid. She probably knows what's going on,

54:07 Speaker 1: and she's probably already talking to her friends about it,

54:09 Speaker 1: and it's scaring the shit out of her and her

54:10 Speaker 1: little friends. Because that also happens. I've had to get

54:14 Speaker 1: many a counselor deployed at many different schools in many

54:17 Speaker 1: a second, third and fourth grade classroom because the kids

54:20 Speaker 1: have worked themselves into a tizzy about something that's happening

54:23 Speaker 1: at home over there that their parents said. And then

54:26 Speaker 1: I text the parents and they're like, I had no

54:28 Speaker 1: idea this was bothering them so much. I had one

54:30 Speaker 1: kid who was like telling everyone, like, I'm moving to

54:33 Speaker 1: Tampa and he was really upset about it. All his

54:35 Speaker 1: friends started crying. This went on for three days and

54:37 Speaker 1: I had just text the mom, Hey, he's really like

54:40 Speaker 1: affected by this move. I guess that's happening. You know,

54:43 Speaker 1: he's been writing on his papers, he's been talking to

54:46 Speaker 1: his friends. I did have to send him to the

54:47 Speaker 1: counselor today just because it seems to be really bothering him.

54:50 Speaker 1: Something he can of can't move past. And it's like Wednesday,

54:54 Speaker 1: and she was like, it's something we've only talked about,

54:56 Speaker 1: we mentioned maybe once. I think he overheard us. I

54:59 Speaker 1: had no idea was affecting him this way. I'm like,

55:02 Speaker 1: your kids are listening. That is like.

55:06 Speaker 2: So my dad was like too honest with us. So

55:09 Speaker 2: when my mom would go away, either with friends or

55:12 Speaker 2: on a work trip or something, we would order in

55:15 Speaker 2: pizza because he just like didn't want to deal with that.

55:19 Speaker 2: And then we had rules that we couldn't have friends over,

55:21 Speaker 2: and we were always allowed to have friends over. And

55:22 Speaker 2: I was like why and my dad was because I

55:25 Speaker 2: don't know how to take care of more than two

55:27 Speaker 2: of you. And then he would like, let us watch it.

55:34 Speaker 2: Ur He's like, I'll let you watch an R rated

55:35 Speaker 2: movie with me.

55:37 Speaker 1: That's incredible. Just no frames.

55:39 Speaker 2: Literally, I don't know, but I'm not. I don't know

55:43 Speaker 2: what I'm doing.

55:43 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do here. Please don't make

55:46 Speaker 1: this hard on me. That's incredible. Your dad is an

55:50 Speaker 1: amazing here, I.

55:51 Speaker 2: Know, but I mean with the reason. I mean, there

55:52 Speaker 2: was a reason why he didn't trust himself. Like he

55:54 Speaker 2: was raised in the Soviet Union. They had very different

55:57 Speaker 2: parenting styles that were extremely harsh, and you know, you know, you.

56:03 Speaker 1: Can't joke your way out of things with other.

56:05 Speaker 2: Kids, right, and so he kind of didn't know how

56:09 Speaker 2: to raise kids because the way he was raised he

56:11 Speaker 2: did not want to replicate. And so he really related

56:13 Speaker 2: to my mom, who also happened to be a social worker,

56:16 Speaker 2: to kind of guide how everything was going to go.

56:19 Speaker 2: Because you know, you weren't allowed to culturally hug or

56:23 Speaker 2: kiss or say I love you to male children. So

56:29 Speaker 2: when my brother was born, my dad was like terrified

56:32 Speaker 2: he couldn't show the same affection that he showed to me.

56:35 Speaker 2: And my mom was like, no, you can do whatever

56:39 Speaker 2: you want, like you tell him you love him all

56:41 Speaker 2: that stuff. So my dad is like overly affectionate with

56:43 Speaker 2: my brother, like more than me. He goes out of

56:48 Speaker 2: his way, you know, and it's it's so funny. So

56:51 Speaker 2: when you know, we got older and I was like, Dad,

56:53 Speaker 2: do you remember telling us that you like didn't know

56:54 Speaker 2: how to be like supervise children. And he's like, yeah,

56:59 Speaker 2: I didn't know what I was doing. I really like

57:02 Speaker 2: looked to mom and I just mimicked what she did.

57:05 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's actually really sweet.

57:07 Speaker 2: It's really sweet.

57:08 Speaker 1: It's a nice reminder also, like as like we're like Stacy,

57:12 Speaker 1: we have questions and some concerns and some advice like

57:16 Speaker 1: they to inform future decisions. But it's very like all parents,

57:21 Speaker 1: they're just doing the best they can.

57:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally like your.

57:25 Speaker 1: Dad, they're doing the best they can with the information

57:27 Speaker 1: that they have. They're thinking they're doing the right thing

57:29 Speaker 1: by their kids because they're scared of making mistakes and

57:31 Speaker 1: fucking their kids up forever. And I also want to

57:35 Speaker 1: remind parents that you are going to make mistakes, no

57:38 Speaker 1: matter what your kids may feel like or seem like

57:41 Speaker 1: they're gonna be fucked up from it, and they're not.

57:43 Speaker 1: They're not.

57:43 Speaker 2: They'll be totally fine.

57:45 Speaker 1: I'm just fine, And I'm telling you everything that could

57:48 Speaker 1: have happened, happened to me, and it's gonna be fine,

57:52 Speaker 1: Like and there are people who have got through so

57:54 Speaker 1: much worse and their parents stay together and they were

57:56 Speaker 1: miserable or broke up and they were super happy, like

57:59 Speaker 1: they're a full world of As long as that little

58:02 Speaker 1: girl knows that she's loved by both of her parents,

58:04 Speaker 1: she won't really give a shit where it's coming from

58:06 Speaker 1: or win, just that she has.

58:07 Speaker 2: Can we talk for a second about this guy that

58:09 Speaker 2: TJ that she's seen.

58:11 Speaker 1: What is happening many he doesn't want her right like

58:16 Speaker 1: he doesn't.

58:17 Speaker 2: So the weird Okay, the only thing I thought was

58:21 Speaker 2: strange is that he's never been married. So and he's

58:23 Speaker 2: forty one. So does that mean he's never had sex

58:25 Speaker 2: because he doesn't believe in sex before marriage. And if

58:28 Speaker 2: he's never had sex and he's forty one, then I

58:30 Speaker 2: think that's not religious.

58:32 Speaker 1: I think that he has never had sex. I think

58:35 Speaker 1: he is on a side thing as of like whatever

58:38 Speaker 1: time she met him in his life, he was has

58:41 Speaker 1: chosen to be celibate and didn't want to break that vow.

58:44 Speaker 1: And I'm not encouraging breaking that vow.

58:47 Speaker 2: No, I actually think that's fine.

58:49 Speaker 1: If I have some questions though about the like the

58:53 Speaker 1: attitude behind it, that's what's getting me. It's not like

58:57 Speaker 1: it's just not giving me an eagerness to grow and

59:00 Speaker 1: see if you can get to that point with this person.

59:03 Speaker 1: Like the way that Stacey feels very hopeful with him,

59:06 Speaker 1: I don't feel that same hopefulness with him about her.

59:12 Speaker 2: Maybe he's having difficulty expressing himself on camera too.

59:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's apparent, but because he was.

59:20 Speaker 2: On Watch What Happens Live when she was there and

59:22 Speaker 2: he seemed very into her. So maybe it's just I

59:28 Speaker 2: don't understand.

59:29 Speaker 1: He's not reading well on film. And I find out

59:32 Speaker 1: at the reunion Andy will have his messy questions and

59:35 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that he'll be there because we, I mean,

59:38 Speaker 1: we're not getting a husband, so I would like to

59:40 Speaker 1: see that. Some people on the internets have like equated

59:44 Speaker 1: this to like a Walter situation. I don't know if

59:47 Speaker 1: that's where we're at, Like Walter and Kenya, where it

59:50 Speaker 1: was very clear that Walter didn't like love Kenya, but

59:53 Speaker 1: like there was some arrangement or something that he would

59:56 Speaker 1: show up for her, and I don't thank that.

1:00:00 Speaker 2: I think Stacy is someone who is blindly optimistic. Yeah,

1:00:05 Speaker 2: and I think she really likes this guy, And I

1:00:08 Speaker 2: think she's actually probably very religious herself and respects it

1:00:14 Speaker 2: and maybe believes that the relationship is actually going to

1:00:18 Speaker 2: be better because it's not based in sex. But the

1:00:22 Speaker 2: question is like when does that end? Yeah?

1:00:24 Speaker 1: What a veil? Like are you saying that you also

1:00:27 Speaker 1: want to marry him? Like it does that timeline work

1:00:29 Speaker 1: for you too? Because it just seems like we're living

1:00:31 Speaker 1: a lot on his timeline, Like he wants to wait

1:00:33 Speaker 1: for marriage, Well, I hope to maryam one day. I

1:00:35 Speaker 1: hope I'm not waiting three years? Like why is it

1:00:38 Speaker 1: you do you?

1:00:39 Speaker 2: Well, she's the one we're married, so it is on her,

1:00:43 Speaker 2: like you got to not be married anymore if you

1:00:45 Speaker 2: want to start having conversations.

1:00:47 Speaker 1: Well yes, but I'm saying like she's not. I'm also

1:00:50 Speaker 1: like trying to figure out like is that what she

1:00:52 Speaker 1: wants to pursue with him? Like do you want to

1:00:55 Speaker 1: be the one who marries him next? Like do you

1:00:57 Speaker 1: want to jump for or leave one marriage and go

1:00:59 Speaker 1: into this marriage because you say you don't want to

1:01:01 Speaker 1: be waiting for three years to have sex? So is that?

1:01:05 Speaker 1: But you know that's his intention, So what's yours? Like,

1:01:07 Speaker 1: what do you want to do? Because if it's marriage

1:01:10 Speaker 1: or sex after marriage, do you want to marry this manly?

1:01:13 Speaker 1: Is that what you're waiting for? You're waiting to get divorced.

1:01:15 Speaker 1: I think she is Mary.

1:01:17 Speaker 2: I think she is, but she doesn't want to come out

1:01:19 Speaker 2: and say it.

1:01:20 Speaker 1: Interesting.

1:01:23 Speaker 2: I think she likes that. I don't think she wanted

1:01:27 Speaker 2: to get divorced to begin with. I think she really

1:01:30 Speaker 2: likes being a wife. I don't think she likes anything

1:01:35 Speaker 2: that seems like it's not perfect.

1:01:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean QVC, it's just good at it. Like

1:01:41 Speaker 1: I actually really think she has a good TV personality

1:01:45 Speaker 1: in more ways than one, because in the group dynamic,

1:01:47 Speaker 1: aside from her life being very interesting in these men's

1:01:50 Speaker 1: that she's juggling being almost as interesting as Mia having

1:01:54 Speaker 1: her girlfriend, boyfriend, and husband all on the same show.

1:01:59 Speaker 1: Those two are keeping me busy this season. Okay, But

1:02:03 Speaker 1: in like addition to that, I actually like her dynamic

1:02:06 Speaker 1: with the ladies. I think she's really cute and quirky,

1:02:09 Speaker 1: very interviewee very awkward, like in a endearing way of

1:02:13 Speaker 1: like read the room like Wendy was Hella hungover the

1:02:17 Speaker 1: next morning, like after her birthday party. But Stacey was

1:02:20 Speaker 1: just like asking her questions and I just I really

1:02:23 Speaker 1: I would want to go to long lunch with Stacy,

1:02:26 Speaker 1: like I'd want to drink Sangria in the middle of

1:02:29 Speaker 1: like July and her just tell me things and ask

1:02:32 Speaker 1: me questions like looks like they didn't on QVC, like

1:02:35 Speaker 1: they they chat, they eat, they walk, they eat, they walk,

1:02:38 Speaker 1: they ask questions like I just love her vibe and

1:02:41 Speaker 1: I like that the ladies like her, and I like

1:02:43 Speaker 1: that she really cares about Karen. But she also was

1:02:45 Speaker 1: not afraid to be like, so, what is it? Are

1:02:49 Speaker 1: you okay saying alcoholics anonymous for you? Sorry?

1:02:54 Speaker 2: I should laugh, but it's just like should I be worried?

1:02:58 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, you don't need, as Karen, if one

1:03:01 Speaker 2: of your friends has eight charges from a DUI, Like

1:03:06 Speaker 2: eight is a substantial number number, yes, And I like

1:03:11 Speaker 2: far and more serious than the Shannon Badoor situation where

1:03:14 Speaker 2: she drove for like thirty seconds before crashing.

1:03:18 Speaker 1: Right, And I need to remind people and let people

1:03:20 Speaker 1: know like knock on wood. And I won't give the

1:03:23 Speaker 1: DMV area too much on its cops because there's over

1:03:26 Speaker 1: policing happening in all parts of the DMV, but they

1:03:29 Speaker 1: typically don't love because of how busy they are, and

1:03:33 Speaker 1: a lot of the Metro areas they don't love. Just

1:03:35 Speaker 1: a hand and out charges to do paperwork. Oh my god,

1:03:38 Speaker 1: they gotten away not over police does nefarious things. I

1:03:42 Speaker 1: have gotten away with a lot more from a cop

1:03:44 Speaker 1: than I ever have should And so for them to

1:03:47 Speaker 1: have written up eight charges, the first thing my mom

1:03:50 Speaker 1: said was like, how bad was it?

1:03:53 Speaker 2: It must have been terrible because data, I mean, I

1:03:57 Speaker 2: live harder to.

1:03:58 Speaker 1: See and we'll get it with a lot everything.

1:04:01 Speaker 2: You get away with everything.

1:04:03 Speaker 1: People get away with everything, especially traffic violations. So the

1:04:08 Speaker 1: amount of people I know who have been driving drunk on

1:04:11 Speaker 1: four and during the New Year's Eve festivating, Oh god,

1:04:17 Speaker 1: So I'm just like hearing what were you doing? And

1:04:21 Speaker 1: eyes he really don't?

1:04:22 Speaker 2: You really don't, right, I was like, where's your driver?

1:04:25 Speaker 1: Where's the driver? And you really don't be driving? Do

1:04:28 Speaker 1: you maybe call somebody?

1:04:31 Speaker 2: Just so I'm pretty sure the Metro is free on

1:04:34 Speaker 2: New Year's Eve?

1:04:35 Speaker 1: Also, yes, girl, you live in the crazy area in

1:04:39 Speaker 1: like all of the East Coast next to New York,

1:04:42 Speaker 1: you can get anywhere. You don't need to drive drunk

1:04:46 Speaker 1: or under the influence or whatever. But again, how bad

1:04:50 Speaker 1: was it? You must have been going like in the

1:04:52 Speaker 1: opposite direction of traffic.

1:04:54 Speaker 2: No, she did, she had a median.

1:04:56 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Right, and then she was like, this

1:05:00 Speaker 1: has been very traumatic and all that I'm going through

1:05:02 Speaker 1: and I need support, and Ashley is like, yes, you,

1:05:05 Speaker 1: you're right. Other people could have died. You're correct, and

1:05:09 Speaker 1: I don't.

1:05:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, don't mess with drunk drive. Remember when Monique

1:05:12 Speaker 2: had like to be drinks.

1:05:14 Speaker 1: He does not like that. She doesn't like that. And

1:05:16 Speaker 1: it's true, it's a really easy way to make someone

1:05:19 Speaker 1: out to be a bad person, like you know, Tamra

1:05:21 Speaker 1: I law school with Tamra, because it is it's like,

1:05:24 Speaker 1: it's sickening, it's really disgusting. It's like the number one

1:05:27 Speaker 1: disaster that can happen to somebody on the road, and

1:05:29 Speaker 1: it's the least preventable one. Like it's non preventable. You

1:05:31 Speaker 1: can't determine how someone else is going to make the

1:05:34 Speaker 1: decision to do that, and that's like really scary. And

1:05:37 Speaker 1: so yeah, Karen, I'd give you a hard time too.

1:05:40 Speaker 1: I'd give you a hard time too. It's easy. Karen

1:05:44 Speaker 1: too better. This is this is a tough season because

1:05:47 Speaker 1: her edit is actually quite good.

1:05:49 Speaker 2: For how I think she's terrible.

1:05:52 Speaker 1: I think she's coming across terribly. I think that the editing, though,

1:05:56 Speaker 1: is not against her. She's doing fine. She's actually funny,

1:06:00 Speaker 1: she's quippy, The confessionals are cute, she's having she's having

1:06:04 Speaker 1: good zingers. We're focusing a lot about on her, and

1:06:08 Speaker 1: like they're they're doing there. They filmed her event for

1:06:12 Speaker 1: the ten seconds that they were there, which is actually

1:06:15 Speaker 1: kind of crazy.

1:06:16 Speaker 2: They weren't there. It was iPhone footage.

1:06:18 Speaker 1: Oh iPhone footage that makes sense, ye moniques, And that

1:06:21 Speaker 1: was like they were there for like a couple of

1:06:23 Speaker 1: minutes and it only showed for like a couple of minutes.

1:06:26 Speaker 1: But I think that she you know, it's hard to

1:06:28 Speaker 1: be a Karen fan this season. The girls are having

1:06:31 Speaker 1: a difficult time. And I have clocked it like, oh,

1:06:33 Speaker 1: this is the first time that Karen is being like

1:06:37 Speaker 1: picked apart a little bit, but like by the fans

1:06:40 Speaker 1: in the cast, And I appreciated this cast does that

1:06:44 Speaker 1: because what the editors may not do or the people

1:06:46 Speaker 1: may not do, because they stay in Karen like, oh

1:06:48 Speaker 1: so much. She's not that way like the girlies are like, no,

1:06:52 Speaker 1: ma'am not happening. So the Potomac ladies have really been

1:06:57 Speaker 1: giving me so much lately, and I'm really really grateful

1:06:59 Speaker 1: for them. I can't wait for Beverly Hills to get started.

1:07:03 Speaker 1: And right now I'm in an overflow and abundance of

1:07:06 Speaker 1: housewife and I'm really I'm pleased. I'm having a nice time.

1:07:09 Speaker 1: Are you having a nice time.

1:07:11 Speaker 2: I'm having a great time.

1:07:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm having a great time. You guys. This isn't

1:07:14 Speaker 1: my only conversation about housewives. I'm gonna be recording again

1:07:18 Speaker 1: in a couple of days to discuss the recent episodes

1:07:21 Speaker 1: of Sally City and Potomac at Oc. I just needed

1:07:24 Speaker 1: to catch up and I needed to call. We needed

1:07:26 Speaker 1: to talk about Teddy. I did not. I needed something

1:07:29 Speaker 1: to take my rants energy away this week and to

1:07:34 Speaker 1: redirect it somewhere else, and it happened to be in

1:07:37 Speaker 1: the equestrian community a la voc slash Beverly Hills. I

1:07:42 Speaker 1: think that is fantastic. Final question, Mandy, does this warrant

1:07:46 Speaker 1: Teddy getting back on the show, that's the big part.

1:07:48 Speaker 2: Probably not no, but if she gets on anywhere. I

1:07:52 Speaker 2: would think it would make sense to be oc.

1:07:55 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean yeah, that would make a lot of

1:07:57 Speaker 1: sense because she's now I would be more interested in

1:07:59 Speaker 1: her into more than her and Kyle any day.

1:08:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes that's what because I think would Tamra

1:08:06 Speaker 2: turn on her once she is a coworker, I mean

1:08:09 Speaker 2: she is a coworker on There's.

1:08:12 Speaker 1: The same show? Yeah, and yet edited to her and

1:08:14 Speaker 1: her money? Yes?

1:08:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, mm hmm.

1:08:17 Speaker 1: I wonder what will happen with that? I wonder what

1:08:20 Speaker 1: morel found out? Well, you will find out. But in

1:08:23 Speaker 1: the meantime, Mandy, where can people find you? Where can

1:08:26 Speaker 1: they listen to you and connect with you and all

1:08:28 Speaker 1: of your amazing insight and witty things like y'all, Mandy

1:08:32 Speaker 1: is the best you have to outside of it? If

1:08:34 Speaker 1: they're not just scrolling through the top I can't stop

1:08:36 Speaker 1: saying it the top TV Reviews. Did you know that

1:08:39 Speaker 1: you're on there like every week? Really? Yes?

1:08:42 Speaker 2: Where do you find that on Apple?

1:08:44 Speaker 1: Like if you go to like oh oh oh like

1:08:47 Speaker 1: bowls or something, and then like TV Reviews, you're on

1:08:51 Speaker 1: there every week? I'm away, like, look nice, thank you

1:08:55 Speaker 1: for browsing. Go ahead over there to Mandy's podcast, But

1:09:00 Speaker 1: where could they find you if they're want to be

1:09:01 Speaker 1: super intentional into a rule?

1:09:02 Speaker 2: Right? Yes, So my podcast is called is This Real

1:09:05 Speaker 2: Life with Mandy Slutsker, And if you want to find

1:09:08 Speaker 2: me anywhere, whether it be on Apple, Spotify or Instagram

1:09:12 Speaker 2: or Twitter, you can type in Mandy, m A and

1:09:15 Speaker 2: d Y and then slut because my last name is

1:09:18 Speaker 2: Slutsker spelled s l ut s k e R. So

1:09:23 Speaker 2: I kid you not. You type in Mandy slut and

1:09:26 Speaker 2: I come up, so you'll be able to find the podcast.

1:09:28 Speaker 2: You can find me on Instagram, and yeah, I have

1:09:32 Speaker 2: been having a little bit more political Instagram stories. I

1:09:35 Speaker 2: usually try and keep my Instagram separate from politics, but

1:09:40 Speaker 2: it's been hard lately.

1:09:41 Speaker 1: Been hard. It's really hard to disassociate people.

1:09:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's part of my work. So normally I'm like, well,

1:09:48 Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk about work related things.

1:09:51 Speaker 1: But it's crazy.

1:09:53 Speaker 2: You're sort of like housewives right now, you know, So

1:09:56 Speaker 2: I feel like it makes sense.

1:10:00 Speaker 1: Listen, We're trying to find you where we can, and

1:10:02 Speaker 1: I'll continue to be doing that as much as I

1:10:07 Speaker 1: can find it, and if not, then I'll think it's

1:10:09 Speaker 1: till I make it. But right now, I've had a

1:10:10 Speaker 1: splendid time with you, Mandy. This has been so much

1:10:14 Speaker 1: fun and probably the most that I've smiled in the

1:10:16 Speaker 1: last all week long. Me too, I've not This is

1:10:21 Speaker 1: the first week ever where I have like turned off

1:10:24 Speaker 1: my notifications for news and I've not done that, like

1:10:26 Speaker 1: since I was like took a calm class like my

1:10:29 Speaker 1: sophmore year of college, and they told me, like, you

1:10:31 Speaker 1: need to be tapped into the news and what's going

1:10:33 Speaker 1: on in the world. And I was like, yeah, you're right,

1:10:35 Speaker 1: I'm an adult and to my detriment, right, But yeah.

1:10:39 Speaker 1: So I've had a lot of fun and I'm just

1:10:42 Speaker 1: so glad you came back. Thank you so much. I

1:10:43 Speaker 1: can't wait for you to come back again.

1:10:46 Speaker 2: Yes, and you need to come back on mine especially.

1:10:49 Speaker 1: You were the best you guys. You know where to

1:10:52 Speaker 1: find me at mixing with Moni and my x I

1:10:54 Speaker 1: g W I T H M A n I. Thank

1:10:58 Speaker 1: you for listening. Take care of your souls. Love you, babe.