Gangsta ‘n Alcohol w/ Dana @thebravoinvestigator

0:24 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologists out there. It

0:28 Speaker 1: is your girl Moni, and you are mixing with Moni.

0:31 Speaker 1: You're in the mix with Monni. Oh my god, guys,

0:33 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna get used to it. It's my own show,

0:35 Speaker 1: and I'm never gonna get used to having a name change.

0:37 Speaker 2: Apparently.

0:37 Speaker 1: I'm also just like never gonna get used to technology

0:40 Speaker 1: or like having this podcast overall, even though it's been

0:43 Speaker 1: like what you're three four?

0:45 Speaker 2: Who's counting?

0:47 Speaker 1: Because before getting on the show with my guest here

0:51 Speaker 1: that I'll introduce in.

0:52 Speaker 2: A second, Zoom really Zoom really played me.

0:55 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Zoom's fault, my wife's fault,

0:57 Speaker 1: or my computer's fault, or just the hours that be

1:00 Speaker 1: that don't want me to talk about these ladies, But

1:03 Speaker 1: we figured it out. More on that to come, and

1:06 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have the Bravo investigator here herself, Dana.

1:10 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome.

1:12 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me, Thank you so much.

1:15 Speaker 2: For being here.

1:16 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yes, I had such a great time

1:18 Speaker 1: talking to you the last time on your podcast.

1:21 Speaker 2: That was so fun.

1:22 Speaker 1: I love that we got dove deep into New York

1:24 Speaker 1: and we just kind of established instantly that we are

1:27 Speaker 1: each other's kind of person.

1:29 Speaker 2: Like we talk about these shows like we.

1:31 Speaker 1: Are hearing things differently and we're a little bit more

1:34 Speaker 1: than just like the details of like what happened and

1:36 Speaker 1: what the girls were. It's like, why are you saying

1:39 Speaker 1: this to people? What is wrong with you? Are you okay?

1:42 Speaker 1: Like we're just digging a little deeper, asking some shady

1:45 Speaker 1: but like more in depth questions.

1:47 Speaker 2: And I really liked that vibe.

1:50 Speaker 4: And thank god because I just reached out to you

1:52 Speaker 4: to do my podcast, which is called I Take Bravo

1:54 Speaker 4: Very Seriously.

1:55 Speaker 1: Yes the description as well, guys, thank you.

1:59 Speaker 4: So I to you just having a vibe that we

2:02 Speaker 4: were gonna be the same kind of person and we were,

2:04 Speaker 4: but can you imagine we were?

2:06 Speaker 1: Yeah right, Italy, No, seriously even thank god, we actually

2:10 Speaker 1: do take Bravo very seriously.

2:12 Speaker 2: And I really appreciate that about you.

2:14 Speaker 1: I knew instantly you are not all talk do take

2:17 Speaker 1: it seriously, And I'm like, Okay, who better to talk

2:20 Speaker 1: about where we're at and it's iconic season of Housewives

2:23 Speaker 1: than to have Dane on here and really like kind

2:25 Speaker 1: of dissect what it is that we're in right now,

2:27 Speaker 1: this season of overflow, there's some conspiracy that, you know,

2:33 Speaker 1: when there's this many Housewives shows on at one time,

2:35 Speaker 1: it's because all the seasons are like a little bit like,

2:38 Speaker 1: you know, flops.

2:40 Speaker 2: I'm not getting that vibe yet from.

2:44 Speaker 1: Any of the cities yet. New York is like almost

2:47 Speaker 1: there into flop. Lad with me, but like this what

2:50 Speaker 1: else is new? Like that's been the case for a

2:52 Speaker 1: few years, But like, what do you think about where

2:54 Speaker 1: we are now in the center of this like Housewives

2:57 Speaker 1: cornucopia of Like do you think you are you know

3:01 Speaker 1: they're putting them all together for flop seasons or are

3:02 Speaker 1: we just really blessed?

3:05 Speaker 4: I think we're just really blessed. I think, as you

3:08 Speaker 4: mentioned earlier, we're just people that analyze things deeply. I

3:11 Speaker 4: don't think anyone that works at Bravo thinks that hard

3:13 Speaker 4: about it. I think it just randomly happened this way

3:16 Speaker 4: where they gave us this huge drought for a while

3:18 Speaker 4: and then they gave us this overflow. I think it

3:20 Speaker 4: honestly had no purpose. But I think we're blessed, And

3:25 Speaker 4: I think what's cool about it is, you know, it

3:27 Speaker 4: could be overwhelming, but I feel like with four shows

3:30 Speaker 4: on at the same time, we also get the opportunity

3:33 Speaker 4: to decide what we're really into watching. And the same

3:36 Speaker 4: week I had you on my show, I was deciding, okay,

3:38 Speaker 4: am I going to invest in Potomac? Am I going

3:40 Speaker 4: to invest in New York? And I decided to settle

3:43 Speaker 4: on in terms of my podcast talking about OCA and

3:46 Speaker 4: Salt Lake City because that's just the ones I was

3:48 Speaker 4: interested in. And I feel like still fulfilled. I still

3:50 Speaker 4: feel full yeah, you know, yeah watching everything.

3:53 Speaker 1: But I totally understand that, like I too, I have

3:56 Speaker 1: you know, shipped the podcast of just like not just Bravo,

3:59 Speaker 1: not just talking while all the things obligatorily because it

4:02 Speaker 1: got so tiring, especially during that drought and that time

4:06 Speaker 1: where Housewives was not fun at all. That was definitely

4:10 Speaker 1: something that I.

4:12 Speaker 2: Made a conscious decision of.

4:14 Speaker 1: But now I'm just like, I'll watch them all, but

4:16 Speaker 1: I don't feel the pressure to really like pay attention

4:20 Speaker 1: to the ones that are not giving me joy. And

4:23 Speaker 1: OC I'm having a nice time, But I will not

4:26 Speaker 1: talk about Tama Judge any longer. I can't do it.

4:28 Speaker 1: She's an insufferable person to watch, to listen to. I

4:32 Speaker 1: really think that maybe maybe y'all think we needed her

4:35 Speaker 1: last season, but this current season, wash please, I can't.

4:39 Speaker 1: So we're not talking about OC today. I'm not talking

4:42 Speaker 1: about New York because I don't want y'all skipping to

4:44 Speaker 1: the end of this. I want you to actually listen.

4:47 Speaker 1: So we're gonna get the meat and potatoes going, and

4:50 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Potomac and Salt Lake City. So

4:55 Speaker 1: I think that's like a much nicer place these days.

5:00 Speaker 1: How are those treating you right now?

5:03 Speaker 3: I'm good.

5:03 Speaker 4: I mean, like Potomac had that weird little dip and

5:06 Speaker 4: we're so we're so weird as a fandom, Like Potomac

5:09 Speaker 4: was like one of my all time favorites, and then

5:12 Speaker 4: when it got bad, I was fine to just be

5:14 Speaker 4: like I'll never watch this again.

5:15 Speaker 3: Same with New York, right.

5:16 Speaker 4: It just goes away to us or New Jersey even

5:19 Speaker 4: that's like it just may go away and we never

5:21 Speaker 4: see it again and we just sort of forget. But

5:23 Speaker 4: I feel like Potomac has come back.

5:25 Speaker 3: Like I'm really o yessed with.

5:27 Speaker 4: Giselle, like being on her own as just one green

5:31 Speaker 4: eyed bandit, and she's she's fine, like she's doing well, like.

5:34 Speaker 1: She had no man, no sidekick, no nothing, just just

5:38 Speaker 1: hell being chizy, Like, yeah, it absolutely was.

5:43 Speaker 2: It's quite an interesting.

5:46 Speaker 1: Change. But you know, my girls in Potomac, they're never

5:48 Speaker 1: down for too long, you know what I'm saying. Like

5:51 Speaker 1: maybe one or two seasons we took a little break,

5:53 Speaker 1: we all fell off a little bit. But this season

5:55 Speaker 1: they have come back and they have come back strong.

5:57 Speaker 1: There is a lot there, a lot happening. Like starting

6:02 Speaker 1: you can definitely start with Potomac. I it's wild that

6:07 Speaker 1: we started this episode. I mean, for the last couple

6:11 Speaker 1: of episodes, we really are so centered around this GNA event,

6:15 Speaker 1: which we don't really know what GNA is. It's an

6:18 Speaker 1: athleisure brand, it's a brain tumor cancer awareness foundation, it

6:24 Speaker 1: is a lifestyle brand. It's an Instagram account, it's a

6:28 Speaker 1: lot of things. It's vibes, you know, it's just vibes

6:32 Speaker 1: of Giselle and Ashley. It's Gisella and Ashley vibes. Right,

6:36 Speaker 1: I do have.

6:36 Speaker 4: One detail about it you didn't mention. I do believe

6:39 Speaker 4: the ath leisure where soaks up kouchie sweat. That's like

6:43 Speaker 4: the highlight, right.

6:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like that exactly. Of course, how can we

6:49 Speaker 1: ever different it does. It does it changes the game

6:53 Speaker 1: from any other lifestyle brand clothe here.

6:56 Speaker 2: That we've had on Bravo.

6:59 Speaker 1: We're not all what it is what it does, but

7:01 Speaker 1: we know there was an event and it was a

7:03 Speaker 1: real event, and we know the shady Miss Karen, who

7:09 Speaker 1: I said on your podcast, I think is gonna have

7:11 Speaker 1: her first villain era this season. And it looks like

7:14 Speaker 1: correct because Miss Karen really took the swipe the rug

7:21 Speaker 1: from under Jaseel with this invitation in a group chat

7:25 Speaker 1: to an awards dinner for an award that is, she

7:28 Speaker 1: couldn't even tell people what it was, how she won,

7:31 Speaker 1: or how she was nominated, or what she's getting it for.

7:34 Speaker 1: And she sent it the day of or before Giselle's

7:38 Speaker 1: event that everyone already ares VP too. That is some

7:43 Speaker 1: stone cold bitchery.

7:47 Speaker 4: I don't know why she's giving up the very few

7:51 Speaker 4: friends that are standing beside her, because you know, Giselle

7:54 Speaker 4: was there with her in that first episode being like

7:56 Speaker 4: I'm here whatever you need. And you know Karen is

8:01 Speaker 4: not giving anything in a season in terms of her

8:03 Speaker 4: legal stuff. I'm very disappointed about that. It's giving great

8:06 Speaker 4: Erica Jane, Like we're on updil for legal reasons, yeah,

8:10 Speaker 4: you know, and I just I am disappointed we're just

8:12 Speaker 4: not getting that material. But then she's also very hard

8:15 Speaker 4: about it because she's like, oh, well, you know, go

8:18 Speaker 4: read about it somewhere.

8:19 Speaker 1: So we did it on the Montgomery County Circuit Corps website.

8:24 Speaker 4: So if she's gonna go against Gazelle and she's gonna

8:26 Speaker 4: do all these things, she's going to have no one.

8:28 Speaker 4: She's going to be on an island alone, like you said,

8:30 Speaker 4: she's yeah, going to be in her villain and that's

8:32 Speaker 4: not what she's.

8:35 Speaker 1: Trying to Like. Also, so discourse between the other ladies

8:38 Speaker 1: and Giselle, she thinks that it means that, you know,

8:40 Speaker 1: in order for you to be on team Karen, you

8:42 Speaker 1: have to be like resoundingly teen Karen, nobody else and

8:46 Speaker 1: you need to be a ride or die. But like,

8:48 Speaker 1: it's interesting to me because no one's saying the hard

8:51 Speaker 1: truth to this lady of this is your fault, This

8:55 Speaker 1: is a mess own making. You are going through something, Sally.

9:00 Speaker 1: She said that what she is going through, like that

9:03 Speaker 1: phrase four times this last episode, what you're going through

9:08 Speaker 1: is something of your own making, right, Like you don't

9:12 Speaker 1: need anything or need support. You don't. Gizelle didn't need

9:15 Speaker 1: to offer you anything. You need water into call an

9:18 Speaker 1: uber like.

9:18 Speaker 2: That's it, and it's not.

9:21 Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard not to compare it to the

9:22 Speaker 4: Shannon Bador situation, who, in comparison, is taking more accountability

9:27 Speaker 4: and a lot more, you know, And so it's this

9:30 Speaker 4: is very different. I don't know if this was on

9:32 Speaker 4: the show or this is in the news currently, so

9:34 Speaker 4: forgive me and tell me if you remember. But isn't

9:37 Speaker 4: she fighting some of these churches right now?

9:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, right now?

9:40 Speaker 3: Or is it on the show?

9:40 Speaker 1: I can't it both? Okay, like some it's ongoing. This

9:45 Speaker 1: was filmed earlier this year, so that would make sense.

9:48 Speaker 1: And you know, these kinds of things don't go away overnight.

9:51 Speaker 1: It's it's not a small deal, like a dui. But

9:54 Speaker 1: also she said to Ashley when they were having their

9:57 Speaker 1: like I'm skipping ahead, but when they had their final like,

10:00 Speaker 1: let's figure out what went wrong at Stacy's house, she said,

10:06 Speaker 1: I could have died. I could have. Really, I'm like, yes,

10:10 Speaker 1: you could have, so could someone else. And actually the

10:15 Speaker 1: only person saying that, she goes, yes, or you could

10:17 Speaker 1: have killed someone? Like but do you say you could

10:20 Speaker 1: have died as if someone came to you driving, you

10:23 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I was in an accident

10:26 Speaker 1: and someone was drunk driver. I can't believe I got

10:27 Speaker 1: out with my life. No, baby, someone's saying that about.

10:30 Speaker 4: You, right, And the other part that pisses me off,

10:33 Speaker 4: And I think it was sort of more at the

10:34 Speaker 4: end of the last episode where she's like, who's gonna

10:37 Speaker 4: stand behind me, who's gonna be like one hundred percent

10:39 Speaker 4: team Karen?

10:40 Speaker 3: But you're also giving.

10:40 Speaker 4: Us no information, right, like he at, what are you

10:44 Speaker 4: telling you about?

10:45 Speaker 2: What about what that you did it or didn't do it?

10:48 Speaker 1: What are you saying? And you're right, she doesn't she's

10:50 Speaker 1: not answering the question. She keeps telling everybody like don't ask,

10:54 Speaker 1: don't tell. But also when Stacy said, we just don't

10:57 Speaker 1: know all the facts, so wait until we see all

10:58 Speaker 1: the facts, which, by the way, she's.

11:00 Speaker 2: A reporter, she's a news host or whatever, so it.

11:03 Speaker 1: Makes sense that she'd want to wait for the facts

11:06 Speaker 1: of an old story. But that even got Karen on

11:10 Speaker 1: her ship list. She's even saying like I don't want

11:12 Speaker 1: to hear hearsay, Well, when we hear the facts and

11:15 Speaker 1: Karen was like, I can't believe she said that we

11:17 Speaker 1: don't need to know any facts. But then she tells

11:19 Speaker 1: the other girlies to read about it in the paper.

11:22 Speaker 1: But the paper was saying that you had a duy

11:24 Speaker 1: and you did not call the uber.

11:27 Speaker 4: So I have some questions, especially at a rest haner.

11:33 Speaker 2: In the city. So how did you get here?

11:37 Speaker 1: Who drove? If Beyonce has a driver, so can I

11:40 Speaker 1: You should have had You should have had this thought

11:42 Speaker 1: last year, right, remember Blue Eyes never really took it

11:47 Speaker 1: with that one.

11:48 Speaker 3: Could they not have got a new one?

11:50 Speaker 4: You could have got brown Eyes?

11:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, get her another guy?

11:54 Speaker 1: What do you think about Giselle? Like we started the

11:57 Speaker 1: episode which because of the GNA event, we ended the

11:59 Speaker 1: last episode and started this episode with Gizelle kicking these

12:02 Speaker 1: girls out of her party after they got to Karen's

12:07 Speaker 1: house after it came from Karen's event three minutes later

12:12 Speaker 1: than when Ashley told them to be at Gizelle's event. Granted,

12:17 Speaker 1: Gizelle did say.

12:19 Speaker 4: Three minutes later.

12:22 Speaker 1: And for them to come only three minutes after the

12:24 Speaker 1: time that Ashley said, and Ashley kind of told them

12:30 Speaker 1: to do that as one of the hosts and Gizelle

12:31 Speaker 1: to kick them out before they even crossed the threshold.

12:34 Speaker 2: Honey.

12:34 Speaker 1: The elevated doors opened and they were like, this is nice,

12:38 Speaker 1: and she was like, security, what do you think?

12:41 Speaker 2: What's that rude?

12:42 Speaker 1: I think it's misdirected, honestly, which I think Giselle in

12:46 Speaker 1: the moment was so hurt and confronted by them coming late.

12:50 Speaker 1: She was hurt by that, and she couldn't acknowledge the

12:54 Speaker 1: person who actually hurt her.

12:55 Speaker 2: What did you think? Do you think she was in

12:57 Speaker 2: an apology that it was rude?

12:58 Speaker 1: Where are you at?

13:00 Speaker 3: I mean, it was obviously a power move.

13:01 Speaker 4: And I forget who said it, because was Wendy one

13:04 Speaker 4: of those three?

13:05 Speaker 1: No, Wendy's late at Karen's event because she said, I

13:09 Speaker 1: haven't seen Karen get the award yet, so I'm gonna

13:12 Speaker 1: stay and watch and get the award.

13:14 Speaker 3: Okay.

13:14 Speaker 4: So one of the ladies that were late, I can't

13:16 Speaker 4: remember who it was, was on a podcast this week

13:18 Speaker 4: and said, I swear we were there by eight, but

13:21 Speaker 4: then we had to get miked up, and then we

13:23 Speaker 4: got to walk up and we're wearing these fancy clothes.

13:25 Speaker 4: I'm sure we had actually physically been there, but it

13:27 Speaker 4: doesn't really work like that production wise, So I'm sure

13:30 Speaker 4: we were there and then it takes time to get

13:32 Speaker 4: us already to physically walk in. So given that, and

13:37 Speaker 4: given Giselle knowing that having been on this show for

13:40 Speaker 4: a long time, I feel like it's unfair. It's also

13:43 Speaker 4: in for to the ladies. I mean, I don't know

13:44 Speaker 4: if she knew the entire context at that time, Like

13:47 Speaker 4: they all sort of wake up to this text to

13:48 Speaker 4: be like, h now do this, and they were.

13:50 Speaker 2: Like, right, but what do we do?

13:52 Speaker 1: I don't fault the new girl's frostil making, no, no, no, yeah,

13:55 Speaker 1: what we know about housewives? And I also want to say,

13:59 Speaker 1: who gives a shit if you had to get miked

14:01 Speaker 1: up and you were there at eight it was eight

14:03 Speaker 1: oh four. Everyone relaxed like they it wasn't a fifty

14:07 Speaker 1: four and we close at nine. They definitely were staying

14:10 Speaker 1: there longer. Everyone calmed down. But like, also, we know

14:15 Speaker 1: I've been to a Potomac house I was filming event before.

14:18 Speaker 1: Like we know that the more people of the cast

14:21 Speaker 1: that are at an event, the more likely one that

14:24 Speaker 1: event is to get screen time, and two that those

14:27 Speaker 1: girls are to get screen time, like the fact that

14:30 Speaker 1: they all ended up coming to the Zel's event meant

14:32 Speaker 1: that they were gonna get screen time, right Gizelle thought

14:34 Speaker 1: it was gonna take away from hers because they had

14:36 Speaker 1: to go to Karen's, which it did for a second.

14:39 Speaker 1: But I can't get mad at these girls, especially new girls,

14:42 Speaker 1: for just doing their job. Their job is to show up,

14:45 Speaker 1: Like that's the whole point. It's to show for both

14:48 Speaker 1: new girls that they've never really known before this year

14:51 Speaker 1: and support them in hopes that being miked up at

14:54 Speaker 1: one means they'll be filmed and seen in both.

14:57 Speaker 3: Like it's funny.

14:58 Speaker 4: It's almost like they're being thrown into the lions den

15:00 Speaker 4: where they're like, who do I form an alliance with? Right?

15:02 Speaker 4: It's almost like I always say this, people make fun

15:05 Speaker 4: of us for watching these shows, but this is like

15:07 Speaker 4: literally watching a competition show where these two women were

15:10 Speaker 4: thrown in a bunch of girls they don't know and

15:12 Speaker 4: they're like Jersey.

15:14 Speaker 1: It's even like Jersey right now, Like you know, it's intense,

15:17 Speaker 1: like Jersey's intense, Like they really will throw you to

15:20 Speaker 1: the wolves and be like pick a pet, like you

15:22 Speaker 1: only get one choice, one chine. But that's where it

15:25 Speaker 1: seems like we're at we how did we get here?

15:28 Speaker 1: It's really that did this, Like, I'm actually more shocked

15:31 Speaker 1: at her. I know Giselle was rude. I do think

15:34 Speaker 1: she owes them an apology. I'm glad she apologized to Mia,

15:38 Speaker 1: but that was kind of like a given, and I

15:40 Speaker 1: appreciate that she even brought the other girls to a

15:44 Speaker 1: luncheon to get to know them better before she apologized.

15:47 Speaker 1: She was like, I don't know if I owe them

15:48 Speaker 1: an apology yet I don't know them, which is not

15:50 Speaker 1: how apologies work, my girl, shaz, but I appreciate that

15:55 Speaker 1: you extended that olive branch to get to know them

15:57 Speaker 1: without Karen, because she was like, I means know that

16:00 Speaker 1: they're not just so up Karen's ass that they would

16:04 Speaker 1: be willing to make an enemy out of me already,

16:07 Speaker 1: because who do they think they're talking to? Right, I

16:10 Speaker 1: don't know what miss Karen's told you, but I'm also

16:12 Speaker 1: not one to disrespect, like y'all gonna treat my like

16:15 Speaker 1: my event is subpar to Karen's event, and she didn't

16:19 Speaker 1: even have an event until the morning.

16:22 Speaker 4: This was about her father too, right, Like this is

16:25 Speaker 4: so messed.

16:26 Speaker 1: Up in a sad, terrible way.

16:29 Speaker 2: Oh please, it's fucked up up.

16:33 Speaker 1: No, it really is so fucked up because and Karen

16:37 Speaker 1: should know that, Like she lost her parents, she knows

16:40 Speaker 1: that grief is tricky. She's not over it. Gizelle lost

16:45 Speaker 1: her I mean, she's trying to weise awareness because people

16:47 Speaker 1: do not know that. We don't talk about brain timbers.

16:50 Speaker 1: We talk about cancer generally, and breast cancer. That's really

16:53 Speaker 1: the ones that we, like, you know, really bring awareness to.

16:56 Speaker 1: But the fact that this man could be diagnosed with

16:58 Speaker 1: something and then die twelve days later means that it's

17:02 Speaker 1: obviously something that should people more people should have awareness to.

17:05 Speaker 1: You don't want anyone else to feel what you've gone

17:07 Speaker 1: through and juste geling that way. And she's trying to

17:10 Speaker 1: do you know, some good behind that, and I think

17:12 Speaker 1: that's important versus going on a campaign tour of good

17:17 Speaker 1: deeds and good benefits to avoid court time and things

17:20 Speaker 1: being in the press, which they're going to be anyway,

17:22 Speaker 1: because you're on a show because you're drunken.

17:25 Speaker 2: You were driving drunk.

17:27 Speaker 4: And as Mia said, she's just out.

17:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, like even mean that like speaks of Mia

17:37 Speaker 1: I wrote down and hate talking about people like women's

17:43 Speaker 1: looks that being said does not look great. It's just

17:52 Speaker 1: actually giving that Gordon was probably the actual money bags,

17:58 Speaker 1: and when his money grew up, so did most of

18:03 Speaker 1: her access to the quality things. I'll say, and y'all

18:08 Speaker 1: can take that however, you like, if you saw the

18:11 Speaker 1: episode and you saw those confessionals, then you'd be there's

18:15 Speaker 1: a smortgage border things to pick from of what you think.

18:18 Speaker 4: I'm talking about.

18:23 Speaker 2: I mean, like, I'm like, what do y'all think makeup

18:26 Speaker 2: is hiding?

18:28 Speaker 1: Like it's just it was given Kenya a couple of

18:31 Speaker 1: years ago when Kenya was through her situation with Mark

18:34 Speaker 1: and her skin got like really bad.

18:36 Speaker 2: You could tell she was.

18:37 Speaker 1: Stressing, like stressing a lot, and they would take the

18:40 Speaker 1: makeup on.

18:41 Speaker 2: Which actually only accentuates it.

18:45 Speaker 1: Right, but like that were like missing our facials, Like

18:49 Speaker 1: their wigs aren't anything, look a little cheaper meal, Like

18:53 Speaker 1: the extensions are extensioning the right the right way, and

18:56 Speaker 1: something's going on with the boat tip, something's going on

19:02 Speaker 1: with the boatsops. One cheek's moving a little bit more

19:05 Speaker 1: than the other when we smile. Neither of them look subtle,

19:09 Speaker 1: but both look fresh, but also not fresh enough. I

19:12 Speaker 1: like rite cuties.

19:14 Speaker 4: I always wonder, well, what their process is prior to confessionals.

19:18 Speaker 3: Right, Like maybe she was too soon to it.

19:20 Speaker 4: Maybe it was that morning and you're supposed to let

19:22 Speaker 4: it sett off with three to five days.

19:23 Speaker 3: Like, I don't know the process.

19:24 Speaker 1: I've never done confessionals on like a specific day. Yeah,

19:28 Speaker 1: scheduled it for six weeks before.

19:30 Speaker 3: Right, they never planned it right?

19:33 Speaker 4: Think about did you watch The Valley for example, Yeah,

19:37 Speaker 4: so the first two episodes, Britney's got that like like

19:40 Speaker 4: s around her whole head because she thought her facial

19:45 Speaker 4: whatever she had done to her face her turkey neck. Yeah,

19:48 Speaker 4: something that would be resolved by then. But no, film's

19:51 Speaker 4: an entire new show with this thing around her face.

19:54 Speaker 1: Like didn't we learn from Vicky when you get the facelift,

19:56 Speaker 1: like too soon to filming and you're like not fully healed.

20:00 Speaker 1: But then by the reunion they look great. But when

20:02 Speaker 1: the whole season going ooh, like and that's where I

20:06 Speaker 1: feel like we're at with Mia right now. The airbnbs

20:08 Speaker 1: are small, the apartments are small, the cheeks are small,

20:13 Speaker 1: the hair isn't gray like it's a lot happening.

20:18 Speaker 2: Breakups are hard.

20:19 Speaker 4: The worst part is this whole Jeremiah thing. Though I

20:22 Speaker 4: I we're all talking about it. It's so a.

20:26 Speaker 1: Her entire like situation right now. Was actually really cringe

20:29 Speaker 1: the way she pushed Ink on us and Gordon, Like

20:33 Speaker 1: I'm not like standing up for Gordon or anything, y'all got.

20:36 Speaker 1: You know, it's a cold day in hell if I

20:37 Speaker 1: send the four man on this podcast.

20:39 Speaker 2: But like, woof, like a.

20:42 Speaker 1: Lot, it's a lot like since yeah, once you know

20:46 Speaker 1: Ink he's around and you're okay, right, and also you

20:50 Speaker 1: know you think that he's not your kid, not Ink

20:52 Speaker 1: wants Partannity a test when you think about that, because

20:54 Speaker 1: Ink said that he wants one, So I think I'm

20:56 Speaker 1: gonna get one with Ink.

20:57 Speaker 2: Yeah you know, Ink's.

20:58 Speaker 1: Gonna be at the house and we want to be

20:59 Speaker 1: away from you, like we get it.

21:01 Speaker 2: You're in't in a relationship, okay, you know.

21:04 Speaker 3: What it's giving.

21:04 Speaker 4: It's giving Sheena and Rob right, just like this is

21:07 Speaker 4: the guy. This is you, guys, guys, this is the guy. Okay, Okay,

21:10 Speaker 4: this is always the guy. I promise, I swear, even

21:13 Speaker 4: when I was married to somebody else for like a

21:15 Speaker 4: million years and I had other kids, this was always

21:17 Speaker 4: the guy. Okay, okay, guys, Rob, that's.

21:21 Speaker 1: What this is. Yes, Like literally, I mean I want

21:23 Speaker 1: to know how fast can in hook up a TV? Like,

21:27 Speaker 1: because truly, what is the obsession with this man?

21:31 Speaker 2: He's not.

21:31 Speaker 1: It's not like it's that great based off. It's familiar,

21:34 Speaker 1: and I think she's just scared to be.

21:36 Speaker 2: Single right now. Her days of being like the.

21:41 Speaker 1: What do we call it entertainment waitress, her days of

21:47 Speaker 1: being in that field and being able to be a young,

21:50 Speaker 1: spry bait to catch a man like Gordon are over,

21:55 Speaker 1: and she wasted a lot of well she spent I'll

21:58 Speaker 1: say a lot of those is where she could have

22:01 Speaker 1: netted another with the one she caught, which she usually

22:05 Speaker 1: think that's, you know, the right thing to do. It

22:08 Speaker 1: made no it was no surprise to me that when

22:11 Speaker 1: he lost all his money and I saw that on

22:12 Speaker 1: the Shade Room within like a week, also saw that

22:14 Speaker 1: she filed for divorce or they separated.

22:16 Speaker 2: I said, now that makes sense, Like we all know

22:19 Speaker 2: why you were here.

22:20 Speaker 1: He even knew.

22:21 Speaker 4: I've just never heard anyone say that, Like, did you

22:23 Speaker 4: listen to her on Carlos.

22:25 Speaker 3: King It was a couple of years ago.

22:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't even.

22:29 Speaker 4: Okay, So it's part of my job, like as the

22:30 Speaker 4: bro will investigator on Instagram to like post interesting clips.

22:34 Speaker 4: Every single minute of that was Tea. It was just

22:36 Speaker 4: like constant stuff. She was just saying things, and I'm like, wow,

22:40 Speaker 4: Like we know that people will marry someone for money,

22:43 Speaker 4: but I've just never actually heard someone say that before.

22:46 Speaker 4: It just feels very strange.

22:48 Speaker 1: It does feel stree, but I almost.

22:51 Speaker 4: Don't believe you, Like like it was a couple episodes

22:53 Speaker 4: ago where somebody says that's a long arrangement, right, like

22:56 Speaker 4: eleven years seems like a long arrangement, Like, really, you

22:59 Speaker 4: never loved Although.

23:00 Speaker 2: If it's working, it's working.

23:03 Speaker 1: I think that also, Like what we're not used to

23:07 Speaker 1: is someone admitting it, where we're used to always only

23:09 Speaker 1: speculating it, like we knew Erica jan We're used to

23:12 Speaker 1: Erica James of the Bravosphere like trying to really make

23:16 Speaker 1: us believe that they fell in love with Tom because

23:18 Speaker 1: of his like winning personality, his great wit and his

23:22 Speaker 1: love for life and youth, and people like, no, that's

23:26 Speaker 1: not why, that's not why, because he was sending enough

23:29 Speaker 1: money allegedly to make sure you can have a comfortable lifestyle.

23:32 Speaker 2: That's why get stayed.

23:34 Speaker 1: And I honestly, I feel like Mia being a mom

23:38 Speaker 1: right and having grown up in foster care and with

23:42 Speaker 1: you know, in and out with her mom, she probably

23:45 Speaker 1: was like, I'm giving my kids a really good life

23:48 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna fuck that up, like she was

23:50 Speaker 1: staying it for as long as possible. I don't think

23:52 Speaker 1: we're in a Ashley Darby situation where she was like,

23:55 Speaker 1: he's rich and the fact that he's like not terrible

23:57 Speaker 1: looking and I can kind of like like him, it's

23:59 Speaker 1: like a good thing, and she fell in love with him.

24:01 Speaker 1: I think me he was like I knew why he

24:03 Speaker 1: wanted me, I knew what I wanted from him, and

24:06 Speaker 1: we were both okay with that for a very long

24:09 Speaker 1: time unless the deal the jig is up.

24:12 Speaker 2: Though, if the money is gone, then so am I.

24:15 Speaker 4: Like, I guess it's hard to relate to someone.

24:18 Speaker 1: It's very hard, and it's also very brazen for her

24:21 Speaker 1: to just like admit this, right, we're not used to that,

24:26 Speaker 1: where again we're used to women really trying to drive

24:29 Speaker 1: home the point.

24:29 Speaker 2: For eight seasons that they.

24:31 Speaker 1: Love this man until they also get divorcing because he

24:35 Speaker 1: has no more money, you know what.

24:36 Speaker 4: We are constantly begging these women to.

24:38 Speaker 1: Be real and he is not holding it that honey.

24:43 Speaker 3: I guess she's giving us what we asked for.

24:45 Speaker 2: He sure is, like my goodness.

24:48 Speaker 1: So who is like of the new girlies on Potomac,

24:54 Speaker 1: who do you think is like really a standout? I

24:57 Speaker 1: think that there's no bad cast right now, except for

24:59 Speaker 1: the fact that like Mia is trying to make Jacqueline

25:02 Speaker 1: happen on us, and like it's just not happening at

25:05 Speaker 1: least not in a world of Stacy, Jazzy and Kiernan,

25:09 Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, Like those girls are

25:12 Speaker 1: showing up and showing out, closing van doors on OG's

25:17 Speaker 1: fingers and hands, iconic, like the fact that they both

25:22 Speaker 1: took a sip of their of their champagne when Ashley

25:25 Speaker 1: walked in to Stacy's house. They were like, oh this

25:28 Speaker 1: bitch I iconic. I'm it's giving and I was nervous

25:34 Speaker 1: because we don't have canvas, but like this right, but yeah.

25:37 Speaker 4: It's like they understand the assignment. And so I guess

25:40 Speaker 4: I would say Stacy.

25:42 Speaker 3: Because I'm intrigued by her. So she has like.

25:44 Speaker 4: A very like interesting sap story, aren't we all? She

25:47 Speaker 4: reminds me of Brittany from Salt Lake City with this

25:50 Speaker 4: best friend quote unquote where they don't.

25:53 Speaker 3: Have a real relationship or whatever it is.

25:55 Speaker 4: But there's something about her that's also very blank, where

25:58 Speaker 4: I can't read her.

25:59 Speaker 3: Almost in an Erica Jane way.

26:00 Speaker 4: So I don't know if it's just she's afraid of

26:02 Speaker 4: the camera or she's very shy, but like she has

26:05 Speaker 4: a lot of story, but I still feel like we

26:07 Speaker 4: need to crack her as a human, you know, like

26:09 Speaker 4: I just, yeah, I can't read her face something.

26:12 Speaker 1: Her niece persona on you know what I mean, Like

26:15 Speaker 1: she's maybe that makes so stoic like plug though, but

26:18 Speaker 1: not readable, like that's always been the case that they're

26:21 Speaker 1: supposed to like not be like what is it like

26:25 Speaker 1: to try like to cook on the view? And then

26:29 Speaker 1: so she's not used to being the personality she's used

26:31 Speaker 1: to like interviewing the personality.

26:32 Speaker 2: But girl, we have things that we want to know

26:35 Speaker 2: about you.

26:36 Speaker 1: This like man not wanting to sleep with you until

26:41 Speaker 1: he gets married and you like think he's worth the weight,

26:44 Speaker 1: but like that doesn't mean you think you're gonna marry him,

26:47 Speaker 1: does it? Like you just got separated. And then also

26:52 Speaker 1: you hope that you're not seventy doing the dude, you

26:56 Speaker 1: would wait that long.

26:59 Speaker 4: I'm to find it odd that this comes up as

27:02 Speaker 4: often as it does with men on these shows, Like

27:05 Speaker 4: why is this a thing we have to keep hearing about?

27:08 Speaker 4: Even though I can't think of another example right now,

27:10 Speaker 4: I feel like I've just heard this storyline before.

27:12 Speaker 3: That's not having sex with you.

27:13 Speaker 4: It's just weird, And I mean, with the whole separation.

27:18 Speaker 4: In all fairness, we don't really know a lot about

27:20 Speaker 4: her relationship. And I hate to give this man any credit,

27:24 Speaker 4: but Schwartz said something once that I thought was really meaningful,

27:26 Speaker 4: where sometimes when you have actually broken up with someone,

27:30 Speaker 4: the relationship has actually been over for such a long

27:32 Speaker 4: period of time. So when you sort of see someone

27:35 Speaker 4: go from one relationship to the next, it's not always

27:38 Speaker 4: as it appears. You may have been checked out for

27:40 Speaker 4: quite some time. Right, So we sort of don't know

27:42 Speaker 4: that aspect of it. We don't know how long they

27:45 Speaker 4: hadn't been sleeping together, for example, or how long they've

27:47 Speaker 4: been sleeping in separate rooms, or what their relationship really

27:51 Speaker 4: entail because we just met her, right, So, there's mad

27:54 Speaker 4: to think about.

27:54 Speaker 1: But I know who this man is. I was really

27:58 Speaker 1: wondering because she said they are really well on the

28:00 Speaker 1: in the area, and I hadn't looked into it yet

28:03 Speaker 1: because I've been, you know, busy, but living here.

28:08 Speaker 2: I am like, oh, I know exactly who that is.

28:10 Speaker 1: And he's.

28:12 Speaker 2: The vice president of sales for Audi.

28:14 Speaker 4: So the German Man you mean her?

28:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, the x husband is the vice president of sales

28:19 Speaker 1: for Audi and Audi's just Virginia, I think.

28:22 Speaker 3: So, like, what do you think about the whole with

28:26 Speaker 3: the house and they told.

28:27 Speaker 2: The kid that's strange. Yeah, I think also like.

28:33 Speaker 1: It's not. People think that hiding things from your child

28:36 Speaker 1: is great as an educator, especially of the age group

28:41 Speaker 1: that her daughter is, Like, that's actually not the case.

28:44 Speaker 1: Kids can actually handle a lot more than you think,

28:47 Speaker 1: and they do better knowing than not knowing, because when

28:49 Speaker 1: they don't know, the unknown is scarier for them. They're

28:52 Speaker 1: a lot more like I don't know the fate of

28:54 Speaker 1: my life. I've never seen anything else, and so when

28:57 Speaker 1: they're not getting answers, they just feel like they're in

28:58 Speaker 1: the dark and it scared of the dark. So when

29:01 Speaker 1: you tell them, like mommy, and daddy are having some

29:04 Speaker 1: you know, conversations right now, and we don't know what

29:07 Speaker 1: that's gonna look like. How would you feel about like

29:10 Speaker 1: engaging them in the conversation also kind of lets you know,

29:13 Speaker 1: like you don't have to change your mind or your opinion,

29:15 Speaker 1: but it lets you know what they'll need help with

29:17 Speaker 1: settling into or understanding hoping with in the future. And

29:22 Speaker 1: then you just put that child in therapy. You let

29:24 Speaker 1: her teachers know that their parents are getting divorced. The

29:26 Speaker 1: teachers take care of the child during the day, and

29:29 Speaker 1: it's okay, you don't need to.

29:31 Speaker 2: I just I.

29:31 Speaker 1: Fear that when they sit her down and say it's

29:34 Speaker 1: all final, it's gonna give her no time to be

29:37 Speaker 1: able to react or process because it's so it's definite,

29:42 Speaker 1: and kids hate that. It's like when it's like the

29:44 Speaker 1: same thing as like when kids come home and the

29:46 Speaker 1: movies and the parents are like, we're moving and they're

29:48 Speaker 1: like what, and they're like, yeah, your whole life is like,

29:51 Speaker 1: as you know, it is over. We're moving to a

29:53 Speaker 1: far away place because your dad got a new job

29:55 Speaker 1: and you have no say, And then they all throw

29:57 Speaker 1: a temper tantrum because no one has involved them in

30:00 Speaker 1: the decision that took weeks and weeks and months like

30:02 Speaker 1: to get there, to give them time to adjust. So

30:05 Speaker 1: I think that it's gonna I hope it doesn't hurt

30:07 Speaker 1: this girl in the long run, but I just fear,

30:09 Speaker 1: especially with her being an only child, she has such

30:11 Speaker 1: a close, probably more mature relationship with you know, both

30:14 Speaker 1: of her parents, that I think she will she might

30:17 Speaker 1: feel slighted by not knowing why this is happening when

30:20 Speaker 1: you could have just given her time and talk to

30:23 Speaker 1: her through the process.

30:25 Speaker 4: Okay, I one hundred percent agree with you, but I

30:28 Speaker 4: want to play Devil's advocate for a second.

30:30 Speaker 1: Please what if?

30:32 Speaker 3: What if?

30:33 Speaker 4: Like obviously, if my parents came to me, which they

30:36 Speaker 4: did recently, which is so hilarious because I am forty

30:38 Speaker 4: years old and my parents at seventy years old just

30:40 Speaker 4: tell me separated and I understand, no, seventy years old?

30:45 Speaker 3: Like seriously, Okay, So.

30:48 Speaker 4: I didn't ask them this question, but you know, the

30:51 Speaker 4: first thing you do is ask questions, right, Like the

30:54 Speaker 4: first thing I Rebella's her name, She's gonna have questions

30:56 Speaker 4: where am I going to live? And Stacy's her whole

31:00 Speaker 4: reasoning is we don't have that worked out yet. So

31:02 Speaker 4: in Stacy's mind, from what she's told us, her reasoning

31:05 Speaker 4: is because we don't have all that stuff ironed out.

31:07 Speaker 4: We don't have living, we don't have school, we don't

31:09 Speaker 4: have all that stuff ironed out. So I'm sort of

31:12 Speaker 4: thinking in the mind of a child, and I'm thinking,

31:14 Speaker 4: you know, my parents are telling me that they're getting divorced.

31:17 Speaker 4: I have a host of questions, right, And if your

31:20 Speaker 4: parents are sort of like, oh, we don't know that

31:22 Speaker 4: one yet, we don't know that, I, as a child,

31:24 Speaker 4: might feel in flux.

31:27 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it also depends on how they would

31:29 Speaker 1: present it to her. I imagine they wouldn't just say like, well,

31:32 Speaker 1: mommy and daddy haven't figured that out yet. I would

31:35 Speaker 1: imagine it they'd be a little bit more like, have

31:37 Speaker 1: some more attact in that conversation of like, and that's

31:40 Speaker 1: when you start including the child, like that's the thing,

31:42 Speaker 1: and the children't have a lot of questions and it's

31:45 Speaker 1: okay to not have all the answers.

31:47 Speaker 2: Let me tell you, when most kids corrupt me and be.

31:49 Speaker 1: Like miss ma, guess do you know I'm like, no, baby,

31:52 Speaker 1: tell me about it, though, like what is it like?

31:54 Speaker 1: Sometimes they ask meself, I'm like, well, what do you think?

31:56 Speaker 1: And because they have thoughts on it as well, I

32:00 Speaker 1: want to like, well, you know, you would never have

32:02 Speaker 1: to choose, and would you like to stay in the house?

32:04 Speaker 1: Like that might be a thing, like the conversation, it's

32:07 Speaker 1: part of the conversation, and it may be that she

32:10 Speaker 1: likes the arrangement that they have. But telling you that

32:12 Speaker 1: mom is quote unquote working is gonna also make it

32:16 Speaker 1: that no kid wants to be lied to either, like what.

32:19 Speaker 2: Does that mean?

32:20 Speaker 1: And it also gives no time for them to process

32:22 Speaker 1: when you start bringing new people over. So if you've

32:25 Speaker 1: had time to process this separation and started dating someone

32:28 Speaker 1: new or seeing someone new, and your child does not

32:31 Speaker 1: even know that at all, Like you're dating someone and

32:36 Speaker 1: your child doesn't even know that her parents are separating,

32:39 Speaker 1: it just feels like if you're gonna not tell her

32:41 Speaker 1: because you don't have all those things ironed out yet,

32:43 Speaker 1: That's one of those things that would be ironed out,

32:46 Speaker 1: Like that's something I would ask about even as a child.

32:48 Speaker 1: I'd be like, well, am I gonna have a new mommy?

32:51 Speaker 1: Or am I gonna have a new daddy? Like those

32:52 Speaker 1: questions come up along with where am I gonna live?

32:55 Speaker 1: So if you're already seeing people, or he's already seeing people,

32:59 Speaker 1: then you probably should inclue her in because, let me

33:02 Speaker 1: tell you something, third graders talk, they know stuff.

33:05 Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say. Kids are a lot

33:07 Speaker 3: s murder than we think, and.

33:08 Speaker 4: I know, Oh my god, I don't want to talk

33:09 Speaker 4: about them.

33:10 Speaker 3: See Today.

33:10 Speaker 4: But I don't know if you watched the episode, but

33:12 Speaker 4: it was sort of half about Emily's kids saying something

33:16 Speaker 4: about Heather and Emily saying no, no, no, I would

33:19 Speaker 4: never say anything negative about any of my friends in

33:22 Speaker 4: front of my kids, and the entire fandom is like,

33:25 Speaker 4: that's what you think. They're always listening. Kids are always

33:28 Speaker 4: listening just because you think they're I mean, Arabella is

33:30 Speaker 4: eight years old. I'm sure she's very aware.

33:33 Speaker 1: Of the environment. Eight is not three. No, let me

33:37 Speaker 1: tell you something, and soon speaks three language.

33:39 Speaker 4: I'm sure she can get a sentence right as soon

33:42 Speaker 4: as soon.

33:42 Speaker 1: As kids can start regurgitating what you say, they're saying it. Okay. Again,

33:48 Speaker 1: as someone who works in the classroom, when them kids

33:51 Speaker 1: come into me, they are telling me exactly what they

33:54 Speaker 1: just her mom and dad talk about on the way here,

33:56 Speaker 1: Hey may smirks, guess what my mom like, I've had

33:59 Speaker 1: a kid at five, tell me a couple of years

34:02 Speaker 1: ago when I first started working with kids.

34:03 Speaker 2: He was like, miss Marguess, guess what?

34:06 Speaker 1: And I was like what And he's like, my daddy

34:09 Speaker 1: went on a trip and he's not coming back. I

34:11 Speaker 1: was like, what are you admitting a car? What is

34:14 Speaker 1: And I was like, well where is he? Like you

34:16 Speaker 1: went to New Orleans? Like are you gonna go down

34:17 Speaker 1: there to It's like, no, my mommy's staying here and

34:19 Speaker 1: he's gonna go over there. I said, how do you

34:21 Speaker 1: know that? He said, because he told me goodbye this

34:23 Speaker 1: morning and he said I'm gonna stay there and I

34:25 Speaker 1: was like okay, and then he just went off and

34:29 Speaker 1: went to go play.

34:30 Speaker 2: Like that child is processing it in a different way.

34:33 Speaker 1: I have to check in and make sure that when

34:35 Speaker 1: he cries randomly over like you know, French fries, and

34:38 Speaker 1: it's not because his dad just left this morning. But

34:41 Speaker 1: like your kids are telling your business. You can tell

34:44 Speaker 1: your kids don't tell mommy's business, and please know they're

34:48 Speaker 1: still telling your business the.

34:51 Speaker 4: Second the second they get away from me, trust me.

34:54 Speaker 1: Arabella has told her here at least three times that

34:57 Speaker 1: mommy was staying at home for like she was staying

34:59 Speaker 1: at work. Each this week, she's telling somebody that. So

35:03 Speaker 1: the teachers, and the teachers already think you haven't an affair.

35:08 Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh my god. The teacher's lunge is

35:12 Speaker 1: the best place on earth. The snacks be hitting sometimes,

35:15 Speaker 1: like when you have a good PTA. If you have

35:18 Speaker 1: a good yes, because we have to be a responsible

35:20 Speaker 1: over our own snacks unless they are donated to us

35:22 Speaker 1: like a charity. If you have a good PTA, they

35:26 Speaker 1: put out really good snacks. And then you go in

35:28 Speaker 1: there during like oh, they'll have like a lunch or

35:30 Speaker 1: a sponsored something and you're like ooh, And that's when

35:33 Speaker 1: you catch up and you hear other people's kids saying

35:35 Speaker 1: these things. Or at recess when we're on recess duty,

35:39 Speaker 1: all the teachers, we're talking about what your kids said

35:42 Speaker 1: to us that week, everybody every time, across the country,

35:46 Speaker 1: probably the world, because your kids are talking. So I

35:49 Speaker 1: just want that to be like go on record, housewives

35:53 Speaker 1: and others who listen your children tell on you.

35:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh your.

36:00 Speaker 2: Business, and we're grateful for it. I love that for us.

36:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna go ahead and take a quick break

36:09 Speaker 1: and move on from Potomac over to the snowy girls

36:12 Speaker 1: of Salt Lake City. Okay, we're back in Salt Lake City.

36:25 Speaker 1: Oh boy, this has been really good, like really good,

36:30 Speaker 1: and we've had left season was pretty good. So it's

36:33 Speaker 1: just even without a giant scandal this season, like a

36:36 Speaker 1: Bravo fan account scamming onto the housewife show that we

36:41 Speaker 1: all watch. Even without that, we have a lot of

36:44 Speaker 1: good stuff. We got Mary and full like glam and costumes.

36:47 Speaker 1: We got Bronwyn, which I really want to get your

36:49 Speaker 1: thoughts on in a second. We have beef between Lisa

36:52 Speaker 1: and pick a person, you know, we have podcast interview

37:00 Speaker 1: was like, I can't believe that brov will still less

37:02 Speaker 1: these people do podcasts, Like I mean, I know it's

37:04 Speaker 1: good for TV, but it feels like like it's such

37:06 Speaker 1: a liability at this point, and then it becomes such

37:10 Speaker 1: a big part of plot every season on so many

37:13 Speaker 1: of these shows that I'm like, I'm surprised that they

37:17 Speaker 1: don't look for something else for some of these women

37:19 Speaker 1: versus like you went on a podcast and talked about

37:22 Speaker 1: me because y'all all go on a podcast and talk

37:23 Speaker 1: about each other.

37:24 Speaker 2: That's the whole point of the podcast.

37:27 Speaker 4: Well, I guess it's become the new form of media, right,

37:29 Speaker 4: so it's more bad instead of us you saying it

37:32 Speaker 4: to us weekly, which still happens. But I guess it's

37:34 Speaker 4: more so it said on a podcast. But this was

37:38 Speaker 4: the most minor thing that's ever been said. So if

37:40 Speaker 4: they had like prevented Whitney from going on this podcast

37:44 Speaker 4: and saying this very minor thing about Lisa, men like

37:48 Speaker 4: it's a.

37:50 Speaker 3: Speck of dust.

37:51 Speaker 1: But I mean, it's no worse than Aaron saying about

37:55 Speaker 1: Brian that there doesn't think that they're I mean she

37:58 Speaker 1: said she doesn't.

38:00 Speaker 2: I'm like, bring, did you hear it?

38:01 Speaker 3: Right?

38:01 Speaker 2: Like she said, I don't think so not?

38:03 Speaker 1: I do think So what if you did? It's nothing

38:07 Speaker 1: burger Like that's the whole thing. So like, yeah, you're right,

38:10 Speaker 1: Like these are small things. But I guess you know,

38:13 Speaker 1: if Tamara can continue to do two teas in a pod,

38:15 Speaker 1: then the girls can go wherever they damn well please,

38:19 Speaker 1: and they're doing.

38:20 Speaker 2: That, what do you think about this whole?

38:22 Speaker 4: Like?

38:23 Speaker 1: And I'm not going to ask you if Whitney gets

38:25 Speaker 1: her joy from Ali Baba because that's irrelevant and also

38:29 Speaker 1: probably true, but it's irrelevant, right. What do you think

38:33 Speaker 1: about Lisa exposing that idea, that concept to people and

38:41 Speaker 1: then being like and also like not letting it even

38:44 Speaker 1: dang across her chest, Like she's like, now I'm leaving

38:46 Speaker 1: it right here. I will not let it be on

38:48 Speaker 1: my body.

38:49 Speaker 4: This whole thing is so confusing, especially like adding in

38:52 Speaker 4: the whole podcaster of it all, because first I thought

38:54 Speaker 4: it was kind of cool that like us are like

38:57 Speaker 4: sort of becoming part of the storyline if you sort

39:00 Speaker 4: of heard the backdrop with this whole thing and it

39:02 Speaker 4: was sort of manipulated by Bravo and it's not. Lisa

39:07 Speaker 4: was like, actually, Dana Wilkie, who was the one who

39:10 Speaker 4: said this, so say words. I don't know, but at

39:15 Speaker 4: the end of the day, I think it was pretty hilarious.

39:17 Speaker 4: How seriously seriously as we take Bravo, how seriously Lisa

39:22 Speaker 4: takes these minor minding things, because at the end she's

39:24 Speaker 4: like calling all of these lawyers and security people and

39:28 Speaker 4: where she's like, I want to take this investigation to

39:31 Speaker 4: the end of the investigation of the the end of

39:34 Speaker 4: the thing, right, know what to call it?

39:36 Speaker 1: Right?

39:37 Speaker 3: It's like very don't sir my name sort of?

39:41 Speaker 1: She is really on She is like, do not call

39:44 Speaker 1: me a liar, Do not say that about me? Like

39:47 Speaker 1: I need to find out when she was born. I

39:49 Speaker 1: need to know her sign like right now.

39:53 Speaker 3: I feel like she's born in nineteen eighty one.

39:54 Speaker 1: December fourteenth. What is that as sage? I think it's

39:57 Speaker 1: a sage.

39:59 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah.

40:01 Speaker 3: They call them so emotional, she's so sensitive.

40:05 Speaker 1: Saget terrorists is what they call them. Shut out to

40:08 Speaker 1: serious out there. Love your emotionally unregulated cells. You're cute,

40:11 Speaker 1: love you like?

40:13 Speaker 4: Can you picture her on oc being screamed up by

40:16 Speaker 4: Tamra being like your house is righted by the FBI?

40:19 Speaker 4: She would be like in a ball on the ground, right,

40:22 Speaker 4: So like, I feel like these trivial things that happen

40:24 Speaker 4: on salt Like. I don't know why she gets so

40:26 Speaker 4: up in arms about it, because the worst thing now

40:28 Speaker 4: that she's now been accused of is telling a blogger

40:32 Speaker 4: that that Whitney gets her stuff from Elie Baba and

40:35 Speaker 4: throwing out a necklace.

40:36 Speaker 3: Is that is that the whole offense?

40:38 Speaker 1: Is that?

40:39 Speaker 4: Right? Yes?

40:39 Speaker 1: I think that's the whole offense, that's the idea of

40:42 Speaker 1: like that is such a shady thing to say, especially

40:45 Speaker 1: for someone like Whitney, who you know is are like

40:50 Speaker 1: resident MLM girly. So for her to be like known

40:54 Speaker 1: as like this the boss Bay would know real business.

40:58 Speaker 1: And then for Lisa to allege you be like the

41:00 Speaker 1: business that you also just started is like not real,

41:03 Speaker 1: a flop, not a real business like your other couple

41:06 Speaker 1: ones that weren't real businesses. I think it's sensitive for Whitney,

41:11 Speaker 1: and she has always wanted a real reason to go

41:14 Speaker 1: after Lisa Barlowe, and she's looking for one every season,

41:18 Speaker 1: and this one, I sing on the cake chef's kiss,

41:21 Speaker 1: like this is it. She's trashing my business. She's calling

41:24 Speaker 1: me cheap, she's saying that I don't do my own designs,

41:27 Speaker 1: and Heather's saying it too, but like you know, no

41:30 Speaker 1: one's yelling at Heather.

41:32 Speaker 2: It's just Lisa.

41:33 Speaker 1: And I think Lisa's whole thing is that like, as

41:36 Speaker 1: a business woman, I would never just talk about someone

41:40 Speaker 1: else's business like and it wasn't true, like I didn't

41:44 Speaker 1: say it. If I said it, I would tell you

41:46 Speaker 1: I said it, like that's really where I feel like

41:49 Speaker 1: she's coming from. So it would be the smallest thing ever.

41:52 Speaker 1: And Lisa's gonna lose her shit every time because she's like,

41:55 Speaker 1: you don't say that I said something that I didn't say,

41:57 Speaker 1: because if I said some shady shit. You know.

42:01 Speaker 4: That's why I feel like I can't take a sight

42:02 Speaker 4: on it, because she's saying she didn't say it, you

42:04 Speaker 4: know what I mean.

42:05 Speaker 1: Right, And I'm like, but I'm okay, she did. Heather

42:07 Speaker 1: is also saying it. She's shadily said in this last episode,

42:11 Speaker 1: if you spent just as well as much time talking

42:13 Speaker 1: about this as you did as the designs.

42:16 Speaker 3: Oh, okay, depends who they want to focus on.

42:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when he is not going to go

42:21 Speaker 1: after her cousin. But I but it's so interesting Heather

42:26 Speaker 1: is the pot star this season because that seems to

42:28 Speaker 1: be bron Win's takeaway as she stirs the pot herself

42:32 Speaker 1: every five minutes. But like, Heather has been the bearer

42:37 Speaker 1: of bad news to quite a few girlies about someone

42:41 Speaker 1: that they didn't know was talking about them, talking about

42:43 Speaker 1: them that they thought they had a good relationship with.

42:46 Speaker 2: So what do you think is Heather the pot star

42:48 Speaker 2: this season.

42:49 Speaker 4: I do think that she is, because even if Angie

42:51 Speaker 4: was being shady about Lisa's parenting set of anger right now,

42:56 Speaker 4: right like, you can tell, like sometimes I say really

42:58 Speaker 4: like nasty stuff out of banger, my sister isn't going

43:01 Speaker 4: and telling that person I said that my sister abusing

43:03 Speaker 4: as an example, because she's my best friend. So you know,

43:06 Speaker 4: you should know someone well enough to know when they're

43:08 Speaker 4: just saying something out of banger just leave it alone.

43:10 Speaker 4: You don't need to like disrupt their entire friendship for

43:13 Speaker 4: it when it's already sort of in this shaky place.

43:16 Speaker 4: At the same time, I also feel like Heather's in

43:18 Speaker 4: a weird place because she came into this season with

43:20 Speaker 4: everyone sort of distrusting her with this whole Black Eye thing.

43:23 Speaker 4: She's in this just weird place with the audience, so

43:25 Speaker 4: she doesn't really know where to go. So she's like

43:27 Speaker 4: clumsily trying to be the Podster and then screwing it

43:31 Speaker 4: up a little and taking it back and stir the

43:33 Speaker 4: wrong way, stir back, stirre the wrong way, and she

43:35 Speaker 4: just sort of doesn't always it doesn't always land, and

43:38 Speaker 4: so she's just trying to find she's trying to like

43:40 Speaker 4: drop little is it Mary who said that, like she's

43:42 Speaker 4: dropping these little flyers and just trying to see where

43:45 Speaker 4: they burn.

43:46 Speaker 2: I do think, yeah, it's kind of like brand over

43:48 Speaker 2: in New York.

43:49 Speaker 1: These amateurs feel like they should Tamra it up right,

43:53 Speaker 1: And the problem is, like with a Tamra who's that

43:55 Speaker 1: kind of a potster who's been on, who's been potstring

43:58 Speaker 1: for so long that people thought that they needed her

44:01 Speaker 1: specific energy to come back to the show because like

44:05 Speaker 1: when she wasn't there, that energy wasn't there. But really

44:08 Speaker 1: we just cast it wrong. But like that whole idea

44:10 Speaker 1: is that like Tamra's been miserable forever, right, it since

44:15 Speaker 1: we met her, since she saw since she was like

44:18 Speaker 1: I'm no longer the hottest housewife, right, So she's always

44:21 Speaker 1: been that way. Whereas I think that Heather and the

44:24 Speaker 1: brims of the world, they're like putting on a persona to.

44:27 Speaker 2: Do this job.

44:28 Speaker 1: And I think Heather is just like she's like you said,

44:31 Speaker 1: she's casting a lot.

44:31 Speaker 2: Of nets and seeing what sticks.

44:33 Speaker 1: So she's telling this person, this person that thing that

44:36 Speaker 1: feels dangerous to me, right.

44:39 Speaker 2: I don't think that's a strategy.

44:41 Speaker 4: It's dangerous because you're never safe in this Bravo universe, right, Like, yes,

44:46 Speaker 4: you're an og, but we've seen many ogs disappear over time.

44:49 Speaker 4: And if you lose the fandom, you lose the fandom.

44:51 Speaker 4: And if you lose the cast, that's the worst thing.

44:53 Speaker 4: If no one films with you, that's where you end

44:55 Speaker 4: up being screwed. So don't become too much of a

44:57 Speaker 4: liar where no one can trust you, because you know,

45:00 Speaker 4: if someone you need to have allies. It all comes

45:03 Speaker 4: back to that this is all a competitions.

45:05 Speaker 1: The Survivorking Housewives is survivor, Like making it to another

45:10 Speaker 1: season is like making it.

45:11 Speaker 2: To like All Stars or something like.

45:12 Speaker 1: It really feels like that it's never given. It's never

45:15 Speaker 1: a given. It feels like there are emerges when someone leaves.

45:19 Speaker 1: It feels like, you know, there are different challenges of

45:21 Speaker 1: like if they get through this dinner in order for

45:23 Speaker 1: you to go home, Like who're holding the food hostage?

45:26 Speaker 1: So you do this challenge, you can't leave until y'all

45:28 Speaker 1: talk this out and they have to like navigate the

45:31 Speaker 1: next steps. Right, But yeah, no, I mean I don't

45:34 Speaker 1: hate Heather this season. I just really wish I would know,

45:37 Speaker 1: like who where her loyalties lie, because it's like where

45:41 Speaker 1: she thinks that she's coming off like airy and not

45:43 Speaker 1: giving a fuck. It does feel like she has vested

45:47 Speaker 1: interest in certain people having certain like TIFFs with other people.

45:52 Speaker 1: It feels that she has a vested interest in that.

45:54 Speaker 1: And also, I'm like, Whitney seems to not be holding

45:58 Speaker 1: you or fire like holding you to the fire for

46:01 Speaker 1: any kind of involvement in this idea that she gets

46:04 Speaker 1: her jewelry allegedly from Ali Baba, but yet so she's

46:07 Speaker 1: having that loyalty to you, but you are talking about

46:11 Speaker 1: her with Lisa, who you know she doesn't like, Like, yeah,

46:15 Speaker 1: it's just like where are we going, Heather?

46:17 Speaker 3: Make it makes sense?

46:18 Speaker 2: Make it make sense.

46:19 Speaker 1: The math is not mathing, like it's not it's not

46:22 Speaker 1: doing what it's supposed to do, but it is giving

46:24 Speaker 1: good story. Yeah, because let me tell you who took

46:27 Speaker 1: that bait. Ron Win, she bit that neat honey. Okay,

46:31 Speaker 1: every time I had he cast a little fire. Bronwin

46:33 Speaker 1: is there to be like, y'all see this fire. Yeah,

46:36 Speaker 1: it's giving Heaven planted it, I think. So let's look around.

46:39 Speaker 1: I bet you will see some beauty lab and laser somewhere.

46:43 Speaker 3: It's so true.

46:45 Speaker 4: But I'm just loving her this season because she just

46:48 Speaker 4: fits so seamlessly. It feels like she was always there Ronin. Yeah,

46:52 Speaker 4: ron Win, She's giving us so much story. She's giving

46:54 Speaker 4: us fights with people, she's giving us loyalty with others,

46:58 Speaker 4: and it's it just feels like she's most giving.

47:01 Speaker 2: Us friendship with Mary. I love that.

47:04 Speaker 1: I thought they clicked and hit it off seamlessly. A

47:08 Speaker 1: great time watching them. They're very funny and I like

47:12 Speaker 1: in which we never thought I could say something like

47:15 Speaker 1: that before.

47:16 Speaker 3: You never know who Mary.

47:18 Speaker 4: Honestly, anyone that Mary aligns with I'm always surprised by,

47:22 Speaker 4: just because I can't picture with anyone if you think

47:24 Speaker 4: about it.

47:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, but a fashionable girley. I can see it because

47:27 Speaker 1: at the very least Mary loves to look the fuck

47:29 Speaker 1: the okay, But I.

47:31 Speaker 3: Want to ask you something.

47:32 Speaker 4: So when they're sitting in the kitchen together in Mary's house,

47:36 Speaker 4: ron Win starts to tell the story about like her

47:39 Speaker 4: baby's father dying and Lisa knowing the baby's father, and

47:44 Speaker 4: Mary seems to cut her off and like tell her

47:46 Speaker 4: story about like her mother and people are online are

47:49 Speaker 4: sort of like, wait, did Mary do that? I'm sort

47:52 Speaker 4: of wondering if that's production just cutting out that story

47:54 Speaker 4: because we got like a whole episode of ron Win's

47:56 Speaker 4: story last episode, or if Mary is just being Mary

47:59 Speaker 4: and actually never asked Brode.

48:01 Speaker 3: What the rest of that story was.

48:03 Speaker 4: Absolutely think it's married, but absolutely wouldn't be out of

48:06 Speaker 4: the question.

48:07 Speaker 2: No, not out of the question at all.

48:09 Speaker 1: Like I I would believe that more than they cut

48:12 Speaker 1: it out, because if there's any extra content I feel

48:14 Speaker 1: like Bravo has of Mary, They're going to use it

48:16 Speaker 1: because it's all just wild, Like there's not a lot

48:19 Speaker 1: of b roll that goes to waste about Mary. We

48:22 Speaker 1: always get a flashback of her somewhere somehow because it's

48:25 Speaker 1: just truly what's going on in a mad house and

48:28 Speaker 1: shot out to the editors for the son and his

48:31 Speaker 1: quote unquote wife walking in, and they put on their

48:33 Speaker 1: quote unquote wife very cringe. Every time Mary speaks to

48:38 Speaker 1: these young children, it's very cringe. I'm very concerned for her.

48:43 Speaker 1: I feel her frustration and fear for her son because

48:46 Speaker 1: we already know that they they had there was a

48:48 Speaker 1: legal situation like with the girlfriend.

48:51 Speaker 2: I guess running away from home or something.

48:54 Speaker 4: I do believe he's in rehab now though, so I

48:56 Speaker 4: think I don't want to say like rust assured, but

48:58 Speaker 4: I think that he is.

49:00 Speaker 1: They're handling help. He's getting some help, and I think

49:03 Speaker 1: that's great. I hope you know that. You know, I

49:06 Speaker 1: wish them all the best with that. I think that

49:08 Speaker 1: there's a lot, there's a lot that has gone on

49:10 Speaker 1: in that house that if those walls could talk.

49:13 Speaker 4: It's ad to watch.

49:14 Speaker 1: It's a weird thing to watch. It's hard to watch

49:17 Speaker 1: he's at home with a wife. I'm just very like

49:20 Speaker 1: my mom would die. Like it's a lot to process there.

49:25 Speaker 1: But I love seeing Mary talking about her life, yes,

49:29 Speaker 1: with her fears, her insecurities, and also like and investing

49:36 Speaker 1: in friendships and hanging out with Yeah, finally, because she would.

49:40 Speaker 2: I tell you, she's never been able.

49:41 Speaker 1: She's never given a fuck about hanging out with us

49:43 Speaker 1: until this season.

49:45 Speaker 2: Y'all know, Okay, can I say something mean please?

49:50 Speaker 3: When she was talking about how Robert Jr.

49:53 Speaker 4: Didn't have grandparents, which is said that he hasn't met

49:56 Speaker 4: her parents in theory, the concept of that is sad

49:59 Speaker 4: for sure. When she's talking about how he didn't have grandparents,

50:02 Speaker 4: and they would have this grandparents stay at school, and

50:04 Speaker 4: he would want to stay home because he didn't have grandparents,

50:06 Speaker 4: And it was like the saddest thing. Lots of people

50:09 Speaker 4: don't have grandparents. It's actually quite blessed to have your

50:12 Speaker 4: grandparents still be alive. Like it's not given to have grandparents.

50:15 Speaker 4: I mean you know what I'm saying, Like, it's not

50:17 Speaker 4: it's not your parents, right, it's not your right, like

50:19 Speaker 4: to not have a dad, and they have like a

50:20 Speaker 4: dad Day or something like that, but do not have

50:22 Speaker 4: your grandparents.

50:26 Speaker 1: Talk to her parents so that you could ask her

50:28 Speaker 1: why how.

50:29 Speaker 4: Could this could be the only kid in class who

50:31 Speaker 4: doesn't right living grandparents, Because even if you have grandparents,

50:38 Speaker 4: also have to go travel to their grandparents.

50:40 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it's not very common that they come to

50:43 Speaker 1: grandparents Day often.

50:45 Speaker 4: I feel like I remember in elementary school, like a

50:47 Speaker 4: kid being off from school almost every week, like a

50:50 Speaker 4: different kid almost every week because their grandparent had died. Right,

50:53 Speaker 4: So I can't imagine having a grandparents day where kids

50:55 Speaker 4: almost have to be reminded of that on a frequent

50:58 Speaker 4: basis because that's around the time they're parents.

51:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, not to mention I thought we were all gonna say,

51:05 Speaker 1: because I was waiting for Mary to say on grandparents

51:07 Speaker 1: Day he would ask to take Robert Senior.

51:13 Speaker 2: Somebody's grandpappy.

51:16 Speaker 3: Girl make a meme?

51:17 Speaker 1: Yeah for real, Like that's where I like with it,

51:25 Speaker 1: Like Robert Senior would have to step in and take them.

51:27 Speaker 1: I thought she was gonna with a straight face, and

51:29 Speaker 1: I was gonna be like that makes sense, that makes it.

51:32 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, yeah, Mary's grand husband, but he's got to

51:36 Speaker 1: step in, step up. Oh my god, listen, it's a

51:42 Speaker 1: mess over here. The mixed with MANI and I's like, Dana,

51:46 Speaker 1: I hope you know that you're gonna be back here

51:48 Speaker 1: so many times I'm gonna ask, You're gonna get sick

51:51 Speaker 1: of me. But like it has been a hoot and

51:53 Speaker 1: a holler having this time with you, Like from the

51:56 Speaker 1: moment that we got on the zoom where y'all, I

52:00 Speaker 1: was like five or six minutes late to my own

52:02 Speaker 1: goddamn meeting because we had completely closed. Apparently it got

52:06 Speaker 1: uninstalled on my wife's computer and doctor Maid did not

52:10 Speaker 1: tell me that. So I'm trying to open it and

52:13 Speaker 1: it's like no, it's closed. So it's like okay, sign in.

52:17 Speaker 1: I sign in, it's still not opening. I had to

52:19 Speaker 1: put in the meeting number of the meeting that I started,

52:23 Speaker 1: it's your own meeting. They took my own meeting hostage

52:26 Speaker 1: and told me that I couldn't get in. It was

52:29 Speaker 1: like no access denied. How am I gonna be do

52:32 Speaker 1: not access to my own event? That is some crazy many.

52:37 Speaker 3: It is like mm hmm.

52:39 Speaker 1: So somebody out there must have been like a Whitney

52:41 Speaker 1: fan or something as zoom been trying to get a hold,

52:45 Speaker 1: or a Karen fan, which y'all just Karen Fannies are

52:49 Speaker 1: gonna have to take the l on this one.

52:50 Speaker 2: Okay.

52:50 Speaker 1: It's just the season's gonna be hard. It's gonna be rough.

52:53 Speaker 1: Everybody's fade has one. It'll be okay, Dana, Before I

52:57 Speaker 1: let you go, thoughts real quick on the Beverly Hills trailer.

53:03 Speaker 4: I'm excited to see some tension and some fighting between

53:06 Speaker 4: Jerreete and Kyle.

53:08 Speaker 2: Finally, I'm so excited about it.

53:09 Speaker 3: I heard that.

53:10 Speaker 4: Mauricio filmed a lot, which is bizarre, but I.

53:12 Speaker 2: Hope I saw that coming immediately.

53:15 Speaker 1: I always thought that because one thing that they both

53:19 Speaker 1: love together is the fame.

53:21 Speaker 3: See, I hate to think I hate to believe.

53:23 Speaker 1: That buying Beverly Hills case in point. Right, Mauricio is

53:28 Speaker 1: a realtor. Realtors don't need to be on TV unless

53:31 Speaker 1: they're a million dollar listing, right, And the fact that

53:33 Speaker 1: he can't be on that show because he was on

53:35 Speaker 1: his wife's show, He's gonna milk that for all that

53:37 Speaker 1: he can, especially because the million dollar listing people, most

53:41 Speaker 1: of their agencies aren't even nearly as big as the agency, right,

53:45 Speaker 1: So he's like, he feels like he's slighted. But also

53:49 Speaker 1: they're friends, they love each other. They just can't be

53:52 Speaker 1: married right now because Kyle wants something different. Y'all just

53:56 Speaker 1: just just trust me on this. I think she wants

53:59 Speaker 1: to explore, and I think we should love her. Maybe

54:03 Speaker 1: I'll like her a little bit more in this new era.

54:07 Speaker 1: But also, like I I want to, I'm here for

54:10 Speaker 1: her in Durite having a little beef. It's been a

54:13 Speaker 1: long time coming, especially if you ask the the Reddit

54:16 Speaker 1: internet streets about Deree and rumors that have gone on.

54:21 Speaker 2: I don't believe them, but you've not heard them.

54:24 Speaker 3: No.

54:25 Speaker 1: People have often thought that Deret and Mauricio allegedly like

54:28 Speaker 1: had something going on. I doubt it, but like the

54:31 Speaker 1: fact that both of them are separating right now and

54:34 Speaker 1: then not leaning on each other is I really want

54:36 Speaker 1: to know how that happened. I really want to know

54:38 Speaker 1: how we got to this dynamic because this is the

54:40 Speaker 1: time that they should be bonding and doing like a

54:43 Speaker 1: Sonya Luwain, you know, trip around, crappy late type of thing.

54:47 Speaker 1: We're both single, but none it.

54:49 Speaker 3: Was the text. It was her releasing the text.

54:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, always always, Isn't that so ironic? Like Beverly Hills.

54:57 Speaker 1: It's releasing things. But yet y'all catch Evander pump out

55:00 Speaker 1: because you thought she leaked a story terriode Our online,

55:04 Speaker 1: So any none of us are above it. I just

55:06 Speaker 1: want to remind us of that. So when y'all hell

55:08 Speaker 1: Lisa to a high standard where we can be leaking

55:11 Speaker 1: stories and telling the press or doing that, it's very

55:14 Speaker 1: weird because we never did. That's a Lisa Runna who

55:16 Speaker 1: always told us what was going on in the season,

55:18 Speaker 1: and we're not doing that now. So it's just, you know,

55:22 Speaker 1: it's a little interesting, but I'm here for it. I

55:24 Speaker 1: can't wait for Eric to find out that Tomas hail liable.

55:27 Speaker 1: I want to know if they will talk about it.

55:29 Speaker 1: I doubt it, but I want answers. I really want

55:32 Speaker 1: answers how she feels. Now, keep asking her until this

55:35 Speaker 1: man is sentenced yes, and then ask her again. Yeah,

55:39 Speaker 1: like girl, Hello, the judge said that the earrings had

55:43 Speaker 1: to go. What do you think about that?

55:45 Speaker 4: She does talk a little bit about her divorce or

55:49 Speaker 4: like her marriage and little bits onto teas. Did you

55:51 Speaker 4: see that she does it now?

55:52 Speaker 2: Yeah?

55:53 Speaker 4: With Teddy, So it's worth actually like listening to her

55:56 Speaker 4: on it, just like her opinions on the show. It's

55:59 Speaker 4: worth a listen because she gives little tidbits about things

56:01 Speaker 4: like that, so it's okay, it's worth picking up on.

56:03 Speaker 1: Just okay, listen, y'all advice and listen to an interview

56:11 Speaker 1: if you like. Listen more.

56:12 Speaker 3: Why are we promoting to teas?

56:16 Speaker 1: Both those teas I cannot stay listen to, but I

56:23 Speaker 1: know that they good, really they give good tea. The

56:26 Speaker 1: girls turn me out all the time, and I thank

56:27 Speaker 1: you all all you wonderful mixologists and other investigators out

56:30 Speaker 1: there who bring us the clips and the info when

56:34 Speaker 1: we me can't listen, don't want to listen because I

56:38 Speaker 1: hear that they spill a lot of teas, so I'm

56:40 Speaker 1: not surprised about that.

56:41 Speaker 2: So if y'all can stomach it, go listen, come back

56:43 Speaker 2: and report.

56:44 Speaker 1: I'm into that. Yeah, guys, thanks so much for listening, Dare,

56:48 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here.

56:50 Speaker 2: This was such a joy.

56:52 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it,

56:54 Speaker 4: and I hope you'll have me back.

56:56 Speaker 1: Oh my god, please, I'm not already like okay, so

56:58 Speaker 1: when the reunion comes out, I'll add it. So Dana,

57:02 Speaker 1: please plug yourself. Tell people where they can find you,

57:04 Speaker 1: they can listen to you, and where they can also

57:07 Speaker 1: become Bravo Investigators.

57:08 Speaker 2: That's plug guys.

57:10 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, where can you find me?

57:12 Speaker 4: Well, if you don't mind, I would love if you

57:14 Speaker 4: guys would listen to my new podcast, Take Bravo very seriously,

57:18 Speaker 4: and you can follow me on Instagram at the Bravo Investigator.

57:20 Speaker 3: And did I take Bravo very seriously?

57:23 Speaker 2: Awesome?

57:23 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening, for hanging out, uh,

57:27 Speaker 1: you know, being patient. Lots of life updates and stuff

57:33 Speaker 1: coming soon. It's just too early for me to tell,

57:34 Speaker 1: but just know that I am watching, I am keeping up,

57:37 Speaker 1: and I will be trying my hardest, end damnedest to

57:41 Speaker 1: get more episode and content out to you a lot faster,

57:45 Speaker 1: and you know, thinking about doing a Patreon Love is

57:47 Speaker 1: Blonde after the reunionaires because ill, this whole season has

57:55 Speaker 1: been like a giant slap in my DC bound face.

57:57 Speaker 1: I'm very upset about it, did a very dirty but

58:01 Speaker 1: so naturally you need to talk about it on Patreons.

58:04 Speaker 1: So I'll definitely be doing that, and I'd be loving

58:07 Speaker 1: to know, you know, I'll be getting some questions, some

58:10 Speaker 1: thoughts from other people about what they thought of the

58:13 Speaker 1: season too, some quips.

58:14 Speaker 2: If you had thoughts, Dana.

58:15 Speaker 1: Let me know them when we are no longer recording,

58:18 Speaker 1: so that you know, I can quote them, you know,

58:20 Speaker 1: on this because I know I thought that we're both

58:22 Speaker 1: we were watching this season. Oof. Y'all, take care of yourselves,

58:28 Speaker 1: watch some good TV, like I don't know, rewatch Ozark.

58:32 Speaker 1: That's a fun time, have a nice time. Take care

58:35 Speaker 1: of yourselves and each other. Love you Bye,