Oscars and Potomac Fashion (and reunion talk) w/ stylist Erika Cartledge

0:16 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful wonderful mixologist. Hi, it is

0:29 Speaker 1: your girl Moni and you are in the mix with

0:32 Speaker 1: Mani again. I'm back because that's what we're doing. We're

0:36 Speaker 1: ramping up production. We're trying to get the bag, We're

0:38 Speaker 1: trying to do what we gotta do. And I could

0:41 Speaker 1: not really just get around how much there was to

0:45 Speaker 1: talk about this past weekend, from the Potomac Reunion to

0:48 Speaker 1: the Oscars happening on the same night, which rest in peace,

0:51 Speaker 1: to the days where like Bravo used to not put

0:54 Speaker 1: a show on an important night of television and now

0:59 Speaker 1: I'm like having compete, go back and forth. We were

1:01 Speaker 1: picking sides. So I talked a lot about the Potomac

1:04 Speaker 1: Reunion with Kendrick. Shout out to that episode, but listen

1:07 Speaker 1: to it. It's great. But I could not look away

1:10 Speaker 1: from the red carpet on the night of the Oscars,

1:13 Speaker 1: So naturally I had to get our favorite stylist, Erica

1:17 Speaker 1: Ceo Erica Cartilage of your Sheik is showing styling agency

1:23 Speaker 1: and beyond like literally like lifestyle you know stylists like

1:27 Speaker 1: it's a lifestyle brand, but it's like Sonia but like real,

1:31 Speaker 1: it's like realize it's it's giving lifestyle. So exactly all

1:37 Speaker 1: you need, all you need, because you're really everything. You

1:40 Speaker 1: have all these cool things going on. So I'm so

1:43 Speaker 1: happy you took a little bit of time out of

1:45 Speaker 1: your busy schedule to talk about these looks with us,

1:48 Speaker 1: because I thought of you immediately watching some of these

1:51 Speaker 1: people in the red car. But I was like, I know,

1:52 Speaker 1: Erica is having a time and a half because as

1:55 Speaker 1: some are fantastic, some are genuinely gagging me.

1:59 Speaker 2: Out, Some people like really really really nailed it, and

2:03 Speaker 2: some people I'm like.

2:04 Speaker 3: Oh what what, what's happening? What do we do?

2:09 Speaker 1: Choices were made and not good some some stilists need

2:12 Speaker 1: to be just because they made it doesn't mean you

2:16 Speaker 1: need to wear it, is where I'm at.

2:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good way to put it.

2:21 Speaker 1: Yeahs that like even who makes mistakes?

2:29 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, oh my gosh, Chanelle was it Chanelle val

2:34 Speaker 2: I can't remember.

2:34 Speaker 3: They all make.

2:35 Speaker 1: Mistakes, right, right exactly, That's like the whole they all,

2:38 Speaker 1: they all make mistakes. If your argument is like it

2:41 Speaker 1: is good looking, it was Chanell, you know, Leuyenne is

2:44 Speaker 1: here to tell you that even sell makes mistakes.

2:47 Speaker 2: Now, and there's a difference, right, So some people wore custom, yeah,

2:53 Speaker 2: some people wear off the runway but it's not custom,

2:57 Speaker 2: and then some people chop off the rack and you

3:01 Speaker 2: can tell the difference.

3:02 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, you can tell what people

3:05 Speaker 1: were fitted styled Taylor like who went through the process

3:10 Speaker 1: of looking good for Oscar Night, which I thought would

3:14 Speaker 1: be a lot more people, I guess than looking at

3:18 Speaker 1: you Adam Sandler. First, before we get into our looks

3:22 Speaker 1: best and words, did you think that the Adam Sandler

3:25 Speaker 1: getting kicked out thing for looking like Adam Sandler on

3:30 Speaker 1: any other given day was a bit or like did

3:34 Speaker 1: he just Adam Sandler his way through the ASP?

3:38 Speaker 2: So I thought it was a bit okay, I was like,

3:43 Speaker 2: I don't, only because we have seen Adam Sandler like

3:46 Speaker 2: actually dress up before and I'm like this rodeo yeah,

3:50 Speaker 2: and so I'm like, yeah, he's Adam Sandler ing it.

3:54 Speaker 3: But to me, it still felt like a bit in

3:56 Speaker 3: the show.

3:57 Speaker 2: It felt a little bit like when Jimmy kimmelhosts and

3:59 Speaker 2: he does bits with audience members. So I just assumed

4:04 Speaker 2: it was a bit in a play on like the

4:07 Speaker 2: Adam Sandler like we said just Adam Sandlery. So I

4:10 Speaker 2: didn't mind, but I didn't go back and look for

4:14 Speaker 2: him in the audience anymore. So I don't know if

4:16 Speaker 2: it was a bit and he went and changed and

4:17 Speaker 2: came back, or if they were like.

4:19 Speaker 3: We're just gonna bring you in and then you can

4:20 Speaker 3: go about your business. But I thought it was.

4:25 Speaker 2: I think it's really interesting because one of my gripes

4:30 Speaker 2: with the Red Carpets in general is so much of it.

4:33 Speaker 3: Is pay for play, and so now you.

4:36 Speaker 2: Don't if you look at the Red Carpets, especially the Oscars,

4:41 Speaker 2: and I'd say Oscars and met Gala, but more so Oscars.

4:44 Speaker 3: If you look at the nineties.

4:46 Speaker 2: For example, like the reason we got Celine Dion in

4:48 Speaker 2: a backwards tuxedo, the reason we got Sharer just just sharing, right,

4:55 Speaker 2: the reason we got even like the Gwyneth Paltrow in

4:58 Speaker 2: that pink I think it was Ralph la whe and

5:00 Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff.

5:01 Speaker 3: It wasn't pay to play one.

5:04 Speaker 2: The stars were picking out their own stuff, you know,

5:07 Speaker 2: or they would go to the designers and say will

5:08 Speaker 2: you dress me?

5:10 Speaker 3: So this idea of like a stylist wasn't a thing.

5:14 Speaker 2: And then there wasn't all of this Like, you're tied

5:17 Speaker 2: to this brand. You have to wear this brand, right,

5:21 Speaker 2: You're the face of this brand, so we're paying you

5:23 Speaker 2: to wear our stuff on the red carpet.

5:25 Speaker 3: And so I think you lose some of.

5:28 Speaker 2: The personality of the person if they're not close enough

5:32 Speaker 2: with that design house to have something custom made for them.

5:35 Speaker 1: Got you.

5:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's why, And it's why we see the same

5:39 Speaker 2: designers you don't see. You see other designers that you

5:43 Speaker 2: think should be in there getting shut out.

5:46 Speaker 3: Is because it's actually hard to be like you used to.

5:49 Speaker 2: Could be an emerging designer and show up on an

5:52 Speaker 2: Oscar's red cap. But I think about like Michael Costello

5:55 Speaker 2: and Beyonce wore him to the Grammys, right, and that

5:57 Speaker 2: was like a huge deal Rritian Siriano when he was

6:01 Speaker 2: first starting out, Like now everybody wants to go to

6:03 Speaker 2: Christian Siriano.

6:04 Speaker 3: Let us not for yet, Christian Siriano used to have

6:07 Speaker 3: to dress the people that the other design houses when dressed.

6:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's also I remember watching so many of his interviews,

6:13 Speaker 1: is that's pretty much the reason why he's even so

6:16 Speaker 1: big and bad now is because he would dress everyone

6:19 Speaker 1: that no one else has to.

6:21 Speaker 3: When no one else dress, they were a different size.

6:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's her name, Leslie.

6:28 Speaker 3: Leslie Jones, Yes, Leslie Jones.

6:30 Speaker 1: You know he was doing Gabrielle Citabe. He was doing

6:35 Speaker 1: Danielle from Orange Is.

6:36 Speaker 3: The New Black, Daniel Brooks Ye bok.

6:39 Speaker 1: He would do that because nobody else would, and that

6:43 Speaker 1: made him like the it girl to go Northwest. The

6:48 Speaker 1: manager of that one, Beyonce. Okay, he's dressing miss girl

6:55 Speaker 1: and her mind for red carpets like up a posting

7:00 Speaker 1: project Rundway. We love to see it. I love Christian

7:02 Speaker 1: Siriano he is.

7:03 Speaker 2: I do too, But I think it's really important to

7:05 Speaker 2: remember he really got to start because other places would say, no,

7:08 Speaker 2: we're not going to dress you. We don't have anything

7:10 Speaker 2: that'll fit you. We can't take you. We already have

7:13 Speaker 2: these bigger stars, so you're not it.

7:15 Speaker 1: And that's why he really deserves this level of success.

7:17 Speaker 1: And yes, Graham, because when I saw he was dressing

7:20 Speaker 1: the queen and her mama, I was like, that's crazy.

7:23 Speaker 1: I said, now, this is it. This is it, Christian.

7:26 Speaker 1: You don't surpassed all the other hose girl, this is it,

7:30 Speaker 1: And it wasn't even its first time. It's just that

7:32 Speaker 1: they look good.

7:33 Speaker 3: They looked that good. Oh my god, they were yeah.

7:36 Speaker 1: Like, so let's get into some of these hits and misses. Actually,

7:40 Speaker 1: before we do that, I also want to know your

7:41 Speaker 1: thoughts on this trend of nudity on the red carpet,

7:45 Speaker 1: thinley veiled with various lace and other materials and strategically

7:51 Speaker 1: placed designs.

7:54 Speaker 3: So I firmly believe what you want.

7:59 Speaker 2: I firmly believe that if it makes you feel good,

8:01 Speaker 2: you should show up in it. I think now because

8:06 Speaker 2: like it used to be risque, right, it used to

8:09 Speaker 2: be daring, and now it's literally like showing up in

8:14 Speaker 2: jeans and a T shirt because so many people are

8:17 Speaker 2: doing it, and so I think.

8:20 Speaker 3: There's a place for it.

8:22 Speaker 2: But I don't necessarily feel like people are creative with it.

8:26 Speaker 3: I think they're just trying to go for the like what's.

8:29 Speaker 2: The most shock value the people talking, and so to me,

8:33 Speaker 2: that doesn't actually feel like real fashion, right, because real

8:37 Speaker 2: fashion and real style is showing up like when Little

8:40 Speaker 2: Kim did it at the VMA's that was wild, right,

8:43 Speaker 2: that whole thing, that whole thing was born out of

8:45 Speaker 2: someone being like you could you could go walk with

8:48 Speaker 2: your titties out and the people will love it.

8:51 Speaker 3: And Kim was like, let's try it.

8:53 Speaker 2: And now it's like people don't do that because that's

8:55 Speaker 2: their fashion and that's their style. It's just like I'm

8:57 Speaker 2: trying to have a moment. I'm trying to get the

8:59 Speaker 2: papara to eat, you know, to take my picture. I'm

9:02 Speaker 2: trying to be seen, and so it doesn't actually feel authentic.

9:04 Speaker 2: I feel like if it was authentic, like when Cher

9:06 Speaker 2: showed up at the Oscars and you could see all

9:08 Speaker 2: the goodies, that to me feels authentic to share, right,

9:12 Speaker 2: and so so like I get it and I understand it, but.

9:16 Speaker 3: I'm also like, that doesn't I think most of the

9:18 Speaker 3: people that did it, it wasn't like real for them.

9:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, a moment pate to fashion. Like I'm looking through

9:26 Speaker 1: the list right now and Kindall Jenner, she's in the lace,

9:33 Speaker 1: Kylie's in the lace lace, but not necessarily lace, I

9:39 Speaker 1: mean like the I can see your your your.

9:41 Speaker 3: Skin, Yeah, yeah, like what was Olivia?

9:44 Speaker 2: Was it Olivia a while that came in like the

9:46 Speaker 2: lace thing that looked like a dressing gown. But like

9:50 Speaker 2: with Kendel Jenner's I actually didn't mind her lair and

9:55 Speaker 2: I loved it, and that's.

9:56 Speaker 1: A little bit more fashion. It felt like, Yes, it

9:58 Speaker 1: felt like if we're going to show off skin and things,

10:02 Speaker 1: it's like it felt a lot more like constructed versus Yes,

10:06 Speaker 1: I love Hallie Bailey. That was very see through, and

10:10 Speaker 1: I was just like, I don't know if I get

10:11 Speaker 1: the vision of the dress. It feels like it's a

10:14 Speaker 1: little lost, Like the cup sizes were small, but the

10:17 Speaker 1: ripage was like, I don't even know if it makes

10:19 Speaker 1: sense for her body. Yeah, exactly, And I have no

10:23 Speaker 1: problem what you see in the whole thing if it's

10:25 Speaker 1: made well right well. And I think that's the difference,

10:29 Speaker 1: is like it's got to be made well, it's got

10:31 Speaker 1: to be done right, and I think we, like people

10:35 Speaker 1: don't always get that right, you know, like Julia Fox.

10:37 Speaker 1: To me, I'm like, it's all brand for her because

10:40 Speaker 1: she's always showing up that way.

10:41 Speaker 3: But I'm also like, you.

10:43 Speaker 2: Could change your brand into something else, Like maybe it's

10:45 Speaker 2: time to reinvent yourself. I don't even mean reinvent, but like,

10:48 Speaker 2: what's what's the next evolution of you?

10:51 Speaker 3: Right? So maybe not a brand knew you, but like

10:54 Speaker 3: this was you from five years ago? Are you really

10:56 Speaker 3: that same person? I don't think you are.

10:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had questions about that. Who else was Oh,

11:04 Speaker 1: Page Disorbo had a very she was on trend with

11:09 Speaker 1: the translucent lace and fabric. Yeah things. What did you

11:14 Speaker 1: think of her look as a host of the Red Carpet?

11:18 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say thought for how they did as actual hosts,

11:21 Speaker 1: and amen, I didn't.

11:23 Speaker 3: I didn't watch.

11:24 Speaker 1: Page like else, Okay, but I do.

11:30 Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

11:31 Speaker 2: When you're a host, you have to like the on

11:34 Speaker 2: trend and everything. So I mean, I think it was fine.

11:40 Speaker 3: I think, like you said, it was on trend. It

11:44 Speaker 3: was trendy. It wasn't anything like. But I also wasn't

11:47 Speaker 3: like wow, oh my god.

11:50 Speaker 1: Well no, you know, unfortunate because for Page, I really

11:53 Speaker 1: wanted this. I mean, I know, you don't want to

11:55 Speaker 1: upstage maybe people on the Red Carpet, but I really

11:58 Speaker 1: wanted this to be a moment for her because she

11:59 Speaker 1: is resident fashion girly. Like if it's not just that

12:03 Speaker 1: they are gigglers or they host the podcasts or whatever,

12:07 Speaker 1: the thing is that Hannah's the comedian type and right

12:10 Speaker 1: the style girl. Like that's how we met her, So

12:13 Speaker 1: I was.

12:13 Speaker 2: Thinking, right, But I also I also wonder, like I think,

12:18 Speaker 2: and this is where like the inner workings of style

12:21 Speaker 2: and all that stuff gets put in because I'm like,

12:23 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't remember who she was wearing,

12:25 Speaker 2: who dressed her. But like also if there are other

12:28 Speaker 2: people and other celebrities wearing that particular brand, the designers

12:32 Speaker 2: will be like, you can't wear these things, or here's

12:35 Speaker 2: the list of things you can choose from.

12:38 Speaker 3: So sometimes it isn't even like to your point, it's

12:45 Speaker 3: they don't want the hosts to upstage.

12:46 Speaker 2: The celebrities, right, So if you look overall at celebrities

12:51 Speaker 2: that are hosting red carpets, they're dressed beautifully, but they're

12:54 Speaker 2: never dressed better than the celebrities.

12:56 Speaker 1: Okay, she wore may Paris hm hmm.

13:02 Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, no, I don't yeah, I don't. So

13:05 Speaker 3: I don't know. They could have collaborated, they could have

13:07 Speaker 3: worked together.

13:09 Speaker 1: It's me.

13:10 Speaker 3: It's a beautiful dress. She is a woman, she looks good.

13:15 Speaker 3: I mean, she looks fantastic.

13:18 Speaker 2: I just think, like I think, you can't if you're

13:22 Speaker 2: in my carpet host, so you can't upstage.

13:25 Speaker 1: Yes, and that I understand, so she was on trend.

13:28 Speaker 1: I actually thought that Hannah looked good for the perfect

13:34 Speaker 1: amount of like. It wasn't too prom it wasn't too like.

13:37 Speaker 1: She reminded me of like like a regular host, like

13:42 Speaker 1: of any other yeah ptaging, whereas Page felt like she

13:46 Speaker 1: was trying to give Juliana Ransick circa or thousands who

13:52 Speaker 1: always be like decks in a Marquesa gown and yes,

13:57 Speaker 1: everybody on the red carpet and licked back straight, bone

14:01 Speaker 1: straight in a big flip like it was giving very like.

14:06 Speaker 1: But I also thought, if we were going to do that,

14:08 Speaker 1: let's make a moment out of it, because actually used

14:10 Speaker 1: the thing, Juliana could come to that carpet snatch like

14:13 Speaker 1: she ready she used to go.

14:15 Speaker 2: I think Page probably could have made in a moment

14:18 Speaker 2: if the dress was a different color.

14:20 Speaker 1: Ooh, now, I think that would be great if it

14:22 Speaker 1: was like a believe it or not. As soon as

14:24 Speaker 1: I saw it, I wished it was champagne.

14:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think it was different Yep. If it

14:31 Speaker 2: was a different color, I think she would.

14:32 Speaker 1: Have had the moment yeah, or even she would have

14:35 Speaker 1: pulled off an actual color quite well.

14:37 Speaker 2: And actually yeah yeah, because of her dark hair and feet.

14:40 Speaker 3: There's a ton of colors that she's.

14:41 Speaker 1: A she edges in her style, and I would have

14:45 Speaker 1: loved to seem like a little bit like if this

14:46 Speaker 1: was red, for instance, like.

14:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, that came to my mind the first color. Yeah,

14:54 Speaker 3: I was like, she.

14:54 Speaker 2: Could have done that and would have been like, I

14:57 Speaker 2: think that would have given you the moment you looking for.

15:01 Speaker 1: Yes, And that's all I wanted from a host, is like,

15:03 Speaker 1: especially if you're gonna be a podcaster, you know, turned

15:09 Speaker 1: like red carpet correspondent.

15:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that.

15:18 Speaker 1: You are not in a regular podcast or not bad

15:21 Speaker 1: for a couple of gigglers. Now, Hannah, I'm talking to you.

15:25 Speaker 1: The reason why I'm not even going to really address

15:29 Speaker 1: you or talk about you in this look other than

15:31 Speaker 1: the fact that you were there, is because you did

15:34 Speaker 1: not do a good job. And I just want you

15:35 Speaker 1: to know that you didn't do a good job. You

15:38 Speaker 1: weren't funny. I didn't find you compelling. Some white people

15:43 Speaker 1: I know even found you racist. So it's not just me.

15:47 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, there's that piece of it. Do you think

15:51 Speaker 2: part of it is because she can't go full out

15:54 Speaker 2: with her brand of comedy on a red carpet.

15:58 Speaker 1: I mean no, because because I need you to have

16:01 Speaker 1: more than that. Even if you're if you're gonna do

16:03 Speaker 1: this job, I need you to have that pick as

16:06 Speaker 1: a comedian to be able to do this job. Because

16:10 Speaker 1: also you do this for a living on your podcast

16:16 Speaker 1: brands and you have deals and yes it's your freedom

16:18 Speaker 1: of speech on your own podcast, but like you have

16:21 Speaker 1: to have more. You're not doing a bit or routine

16:23 Speaker 1: on your podcast. You're hosting, so have a little versatility.

16:28 Speaker 1: I need you to take yourself out of it a

16:30 Speaker 1: little bit. Let me tell you that, because one thing

16:32 Speaker 1: Megan Thestalia needs to not know about you is how

16:34 Speaker 1: you listen to her music to fight that. Okay, I'm

16:39 Speaker 1: not even gonna give it the time that it could

16:43 Speaker 1: be talked about, because I think other people did a

16:45 Speaker 1: very nice job of that. But God in Heaven, I said,

16:49 Speaker 1: oh no, And that's why they not. They don't invite y'all.

16:54 Speaker 1: The podcasters straight up like comedians host whole events and

16:59 Speaker 1: they pull themselves very you know, political and can be.

17:06 Speaker 1: He has done The Daily Show many times that he

17:09 Speaker 1: was on there for years. He also just hosted the

17:12 Speaker 1: Grammys and didn't bring politics into it outside of a

17:15 Speaker 1: funny way and didn't be full Trevor, Like, you have

17:18 Speaker 1: to be able to do that if they're going to

17:20 Speaker 1: be the comedian that gets hired. But then I also

17:22 Speaker 1: think that that means that we need to address the

17:24 Speaker 1: elephant of the room, is that Hannah Burner's not funny.

17:27 Speaker 3: Well, there's that part of it.

17:29 Speaker 1: I mean, I watched it special, I didn't find it funny.

17:31 Speaker 1: I'm happy for her, I'm proud, but as like hot

17:35 Speaker 1: white girls go as comedians, there's at least three other

17:38 Speaker 1: ones on there.

17:39 Speaker 3: I was like, there's a long list ahead of her.

17:41 Speaker 1: Okay, Whitney comments, give it to the girl cassrint Ca

17:45 Speaker 1: Kathy something something with a Kay Taylor Tomlinson going out

17:50 Speaker 1: to her, Like there are other girls who are funny

17:54 Speaker 1: who do her bit, like the straight girl who is

17:59 Speaker 1: like doing the call her daddy, like you know, kind

18:02 Speaker 1: of like bloody open thing, but like I'm married someone

18:05 Speaker 1: pulling it back a little. But I used to be

18:07 Speaker 1: fun and cool, like that's already happening for other girls

18:09 Speaker 1: in oty. And if you can't do both, if you

18:12 Speaker 1: can't like separate that from your comedy, but if you're

18:16 Speaker 1: also not versustile enough to go beyond that, then maybe

18:19 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be the host.

18:21 Speaker 3: Well, I think it.

18:22 Speaker 2: I mean, this is way to the left, but it

18:24 Speaker 2: brings up this larger topic of changing who hosts red carpets.

18:29 Speaker 1: Right.

18:30 Speaker 2: I just read and listened to Andre Leon Talley's book again,

18:34 Speaker 2: and he talks about the moment where he was sidelined

18:39 Speaker 2: as the host the on air personality and hosts for

18:43 Speaker 2: the Met Gala in favor of like YouTube personalities and

18:48 Speaker 2: podcasters and things like that. And it's a different skill set,

18:52 Speaker 2: and I think sometimes we forget being a host and

18:56 Speaker 2: doing all that.

18:56 Speaker 3: And one of my best friends is like a host.

18:58 Speaker 2: She gets hired to do you know, giant conferences and

19:01 Speaker 2: red carpets for you know, certain brands and things like that.

19:04 Speaker 2: It's a totally different skill set to host than to

19:09 Speaker 2: be on a red carpet. And then, I mean, there's

19:12 Speaker 2: a reason Andre Leon Tally was on a red carpet.

19:15 Speaker 3: There's a reason Juliana Oransick was.

19:18 Speaker 2: Like you had Joan Rivers, who was funny, and then

19:21 Speaker 2: but you had Juliana Ransick, you had Braggaraski, you had

19:25 Speaker 2: the fashion people.

19:27 Speaker 3: You have to talk about the fashion right.

19:30 Speaker 2: Ben and all of them, and so Bettie Smith, Yes,

19:33 Speaker 2: And so I think it actually speaks to this larger

19:36 Speaker 2: pivot of what re replacing people into a place where

19:39 Speaker 2: the skill set is different, and we were asking them

19:42 Speaker 2: to have a skill set that they don't actually have.

19:44 Speaker 2: I think it would have been totally different if they

19:47 Speaker 2: were podcasting live right, that would be different, And I

19:54 Speaker 2: bet it would have been more successful.

19:56 Speaker 1: I think so too, I really do, because I I

20:00 Speaker 1: think that they could have done a good job. I think,

20:02 Speaker 1: and I know people are like, well, Hannah is nervous,

20:04 Speaker 1: and I understand that there is absolutely a learning curve

20:07 Speaker 1: for someone who is new, who is you know, coming

20:09 Speaker 1: into this from a different place like shout out to

20:11 Speaker 1: the remounts of Bravo. They've hosted some red carpets in

20:14 Speaker 1: the last couple of years now, you know, being just

20:17 Speaker 1: podcasters and rights and now they're hosting things. So I

20:21 Speaker 1: get that there's that learning curve. But again, you need

20:25 Speaker 1: to have a different or you need to at least

20:28 Speaker 1: be versatile in how you interview and talk to people,

20:31 Speaker 1: because if you it's just interesting to if you're gonna

20:36 Speaker 1: include personal experience, which a lot of people who interview

20:39 Speaker 1: on red Carpets. Typically don't that. They might give a likit,

20:42 Speaker 1: but they might be like loving your album right now

20:46 Speaker 1: it's getting but you focus on the news. You focus

20:49 Speaker 1: on where they are in the news and what they're

20:51 Speaker 1: wearing and what they're there for. But you telling Megan

20:54 Speaker 1: the Stallion that you listen to her music before you

20:58 Speaker 1: it makes you want to fight. It's problematic. That's more

21:04 Speaker 1: than the learning curve of you just being nervous. And

21:06 Speaker 1: if your nerves get in the way, baby, I need

21:09 Speaker 1: you to have some back up things from your comedian

21:11 Speaker 1: days or whatever someone call from. Then your music makes

21:15 Speaker 1: me want to fight people.

21:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's out of pocket.

21:19 Speaker 1: Okay. So if I go to Ksey Musgraves and say

21:21 Speaker 1: your music makes me want to hunk, he tunk through

21:22 Speaker 1: whatever the fuck and spit to back up, what am

21:25 Speaker 1: I gonna What is she gonna do with that? Shout

21:28 Speaker 1: out to Ksey Muskraves. I absolutely love her and she

21:30 Speaker 1: doesn't make me want to do any of that, which

21:32 Speaker 1: is also the point Megan is Doallion's music doesn't make

21:34 Speaker 1: anyone want to fight? Maybe maybe do all the stuff?

21:39 Speaker 3: Doesn't know it makes me want to I listen to that.

21:43 Speaker 2: That's a my like girl, were about to get it

21:45 Speaker 2: playlist like you.

21:48 Speaker 1: About to either get it with your significant other, you

21:50 Speaker 1: about to get it outside with your girls. You about

21:52 Speaker 1: to go turn up in your car, running your errands,

21:56 Speaker 1: popping your ship with your ice coffee, like your home time.

22:00 Speaker 3: Listen having your time.

22:01 Speaker 1: I'm not fighting anyone, well fighting nobody put on Meg.

22:05 Speaker 1: It's because I don't want to fight. It's because I

22:07 Speaker 1: want to enjoy it, because I have.

22:08 Speaker 2: You that time.

22:09 Speaker 3: You just you want to turn off, you want to

22:10 Speaker 3: be outside. That's exactly the outside.

22:12 Speaker 1: Music like fighting music gets me through four ninety five

22:15 Speaker 1: traffic any day of the week, Meg Stallion, I will

22:19 Speaker 1: turn off if that's happening, because you are going to

22:23 Speaker 1: make me happy and the people on the road are not.

22:27 Speaker 1: So I just was like, what music are you listening to?

22:29 Speaker 1: And why would you tell that lady that what is

22:30 Speaker 1: she supposed to do with that? You get what ninety

22:33 Speaker 1: seconds to three minutes.

22:34 Speaker 2: It's the twenty twenty five version of when Juliana Ransack said, like,

22:41 Speaker 2: Patuli is that's just the that's the modern day and

22:44 Speaker 2: we right, I just want to throw that out there,

22:47 Speaker 2: and that was really offensive because her dad is Jamaican,

22:50 Speaker 2: so people had an issue with that.

22:52 Speaker 1: I'll never forget that one, honey, And they never and

22:54 Speaker 1: they meet her up about that for a minute.

22:57 Speaker 3: She go, yeah, yeah, yeah, she was bad for that.

23:01 Speaker 1: Like you was bad. So I'm just like hann a girl.

23:05 Speaker 1: But this is this is we knew that. But that's

23:09 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, is that the problem that we run into.

23:12 Speaker 1: I'm offering people getting new opportunities, like i mean, if

23:15 Speaker 1: somebody want me to come ho host something, absolutely, but

23:17 Speaker 1: that's because you got to have the issue though with that,

23:21 Speaker 1: is that a person's skill set not being in the

23:25 Speaker 1: thing that you're asking them to do, means you can

23:28 Speaker 1: run into some of those thing. No, listen, we have

23:29 Speaker 1: had real journalists get into these same kind of problems.

23:32 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that if you got three minutes max

23:34 Speaker 1: to talk to an interview, to talk to an interviewee,

23:37 Speaker 1: most accomplished interviewers know that you should not even be

23:40 Speaker 1: talking about yourself. What else? Why are you here? Who

23:43 Speaker 1: are you wearing? Right? Let them talk right, Like, let's

23:50 Speaker 1: get into our best and worst. Let's get it the night.

23:54 Speaker 1: We're gonna do our top five best looks first, and

23:58 Speaker 1: then our worst looks, and then we'll see after we've

24:01 Speaker 1: gone through thought about it, you know, talked a little

24:03 Speaker 1: bit of shit. We could see who really takes the

24:05 Speaker 1: crown in both categories. But let's start with Bess. Would

24:09 Speaker 1: you like to go first? Okay?

24:11 Speaker 3: Sure? So my best of the night.

24:15 Speaker 2: And I think this is from being on thrives, from

24:18 Speaker 2: being on Instagram. I feel like this is a controversial pick,

24:21 Speaker 2: but it shouldn't be controversial.

24:23 Speaker 3: I loved Selena Gomez and Ralph Lauren.

24:26 Speaker 2: I loved I thought the dress fit her body perfectly.

24:33 Speaker 3: It was impeccably made.

24:35 Speaker 2: I actually loved that beautiful like blush color on her

24:40 Speaker 2: her skin tone.

24:40 Speaker 3: I loved the old Hollywood glam. I thought the jewelry

24:44 Speaker 3: was just right. She was my favorite.

24:50 Speaker 2: In a very close second was halle Berry because halle

24:54 Speaker 2: Berry and that Christian Siriano mirrored get like, oh I

25:01 Speaker 2: was gagged like looking at that dress. I just was

25:04 Speaker 2: like chid, like, oh my god. So I don't know

25:08 Speaker 2: on any given day, like I could take a nap

25:10 Speaker 2: and wake up and say halle Berry was number one,

25:12 Speaker 2: So like any given day.

25:14 Speaker 3: But I loved that mosaic mirrred gown.

25:19 Speaker 2: I also loved it because mirrors metallic reflection.

25:23 Speaker 3: The bling and the bling, It's like bling is a

25:26 Speaker 3: trend right now, right, it is a thing. When I

25:29 Speaker 3: thought it was done, but I thought that was done

25:31 Speaker 3: in a creative and unique way.

25:33 Speaker 2: It wasn't just like let me throw sequins and crystals

25:35 Speaker 2: all over everything.

25:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I really love that. So like those were

25:42 Speaker 3: let's call it my top two.

25:44 Speaker 2: And then I was like, the rest of my top

25:47 Speaker 2: people are all if they're men. Andrew Garfield in that

25:51 Speaker 2: brown tuxedo, it was tailored to perfection. And one of

25:58 Speaker 2: my beef with a lot of the men on the

26:00 Speaker 2: red carpet was like their pants were they were too long,

26:04 Speaker 2: and so the break which is at the bottom where

26:07 Speaker 2: it like kind of meets their shoe, it looked bunched

26:10 Speaker 2: up and bad like Timothy shallow May had that problem.

26:13 Speaker 3: And I just thought Andrew Garfield like absolute perfection.

26:17 Speaker 2: I actually also really loved Adrian Brody in his taxedo,

26:21 Speaker 2: but I thought he was.

26:23 Speaker 3: Just congratulations to him chef's kiss and.

26:26 Speaker 2: Then rounding out the men, Coleman Domingo, I mean, can

26:31 Speaker 2: can this man do?

26:32 Speaker 3: He can do no wrong? In my opinion. I mean,

26:34 Speaker 3: he just like always gets it. I was listening to

26:38 Speaker 3: the Vogue run through podcast.

26:39 Speaker 2: I don't know if you listened to this, and they said,

26:42 Speaker 2: like Coleman Domingo is like that kid in science class.

26:46 Speaker 2: That is the reason you can't get a curve because

26:48 Speaker 2: you know they're going to.

26:49 Speaker 3: Get the A without the curve.

26:51 Speaker 2: And that's him in the fashion like you just you

26:54 Speaker 2: know he's going to get the A without the curve.

26:56 Speaker 3: Everybody's trying to catch up to him.

26:58 Speaker 2: I mean, read the sash, that modern take on the tuxedo.

27:03 Speaker 2: I loved that brooches were the accessory.

27:05 Speaker 3: For the men this year. I loved it, loved it.

27:09 Speaker 2: I mean I just to me, that was how you

27:13 Speaker 2: stay true to your style and your aesthetic, how you

27:16 Speaker 2: show up with the dress code, but how you also

27:20 Speaker 2: do that in a way that feels real and true

27:22 Speaker 2: and authentic to you.

27:23 Speaker 1: I think that's fantastic. I really do think Poman was

27:26 Speaker 1: in my top and it's rare that man even make

27:30 Speaker 1: it into my top five. I was just saying, where

27:38 Speaker 1: are these things?

27:39 Speaker 3: Well, and then the men brought it.

27:42 Speaker 1: I really think so as well. I was very impressed

27:47 Speaker 1: by the men Cooman looked so good. You know, it

27:50 Speaker 1: was given. Like I love a good fashion moment for

27:53 Speaker 1: a man. It doesn't happen all the time, you know,

27:56 Speaker 1: especially since like Billy Porter has been eating the girls

27:59 Speaker 1: up over the last few years with various trains and

28:02 Speaker 1: gowns of things of that sort. Recently, uh shaboozi. I

28:07 Speaker 1: think on yeah for the Grammys. I love that.

28:11 Speaker 2: I was like, yep, he was, yes, yeah, like the

28:15 Speaker 2: men really, but I love it. I feel like it's

28:19 Speaker 2: giving men permission to like be like I don't have

28:23 Speaker 2: to show up in the same.

28:25 Speaker 3: George Clooney Black talks with the Suton Shop like you

28:30 Speaker 3: can do more, and so I love that.

28:32 Speaker 2: I love that, like they're giving men permission to Andrew

28:36 Speaker 2: Garfield five years ago wouldn't have worn a chocolate brown suit.

28:39 Speaker 2: He no, no, And I'm like, Andrew Garfield should only

28:43 Speaker 2: wear chocolate brown suits because he looked.

28:45 Speaker 1: Amazing, absolutely looks so good. I was very impressed, and

28:51 Speaker 1: like I said, the men absolutely gave it to me

28:53 Speaker 1: this this time around, I think so Koma Domingo was

28:58 Speaker 1: one of my top five deaf. I'm mixing up both

29:03 Speaker 1: like after Party and you know regularly, oh yeah, just

29:07 Speaker 1: because I mean changed me. There's more for me to judge.

29:09 Speaker 3: So and also some of the after.

29:11 Speaker 1: Party offices were better than Yeah, Kylie Jenner, I'm looking

29:16 Speaker 1: at you.

29:18 Speaker 3: I'm definitely looking at Jesus.

29:20 Speaker 1: Way better in the after party than the before party.

29:22 Speaker 4: I said, yeah, okay, sorry, okay, you know you're good.

29:30 Speaker 1: So one of my best. Also just because I love her,

29:33 Speaker 1: but I thought she looked so chic. I loved the

29:35 Speaker 1: material is Kara Delavine, Yes.

29:40 Speaker 3: Studio, and.

29:44 Speaker 1: M like it was excellent.

29:47 Speaker 2: Wellard it?

29:52 Speaker 1: Okay, First of all, I love that posing because I

29:55 Speaker 1: wore his brides maide collection in twenty fourteen to prompt

29:59 Speaker 1: I did not wear a regular prom dress. I wore

30:01 Speaker 1: a mini black lace very but poof got at the bottom,

30:08 Speaker 1: like off the shoulder, well constructed Zach Posen bridesmaid's dress,

30:12 Speaker 1: and I was like, a black bridesmaid's dress that seems weird.

30:14 Speaker 1: I want it, And that's exactly what I wore. So

30:16 Speaker 1: I love Zach Posen and that's why I like it

30:18 Speaker 1: because it's so edgy, the sleeves, the bodice, Like I

30:23 Speaker 1: thought she looked fantastic, but she looked like cheek. I

30:27 Speaker 1: was like, oh, she's the hot girl that everyone in

30:29 Speaker 1: the band wants like. She looks so good and I

30:32 Speaker 1: love Karadelavine. She's so versatile to me, like I can

30:36 Speaker 1: wear some clothes honey. Oh okay, yes, okay, she can

30:39 Speaker 1: wear it, look like. I love Karadelavine. So shout out

30:44 Speaker 1: to her. She gave it to me. Kindle made it

30:47 Speaker 1: into my top five.

30:49 Speaker 3: He looked so good. Great, she looked fantastic.

30:54 Speaker 1: She looked.

30:56 Speaker 2: I also love a person that can go and get

30:59 Speaker 2: archival and look and get archive pieces that look of

31:04 Speaker 2: the moment.

31:05 Speaker 1: Yes, right, because sometimes talk about her being trend. Yes, yeah,

31:09 Speaker 1: a lot of feed through a lot of blaze, but

31:12 Speaker 1: talked about it being way better because it's style. It

31:15 Speaker 1: struck as that.

31:16 Speaker 3: Yes, she looked.

31:19 Speaker 1: She gave me a moment. The sleeves were everything, the

31:22 Speaker 1: collar was everything. Her hair I thought worked really well, Yes,

31:28 Speaker 1: the collar one.

31:31 Speaker 4: Also, this speaks to styling from head to toe, like

31:36 Speaker 4: you have to think about your look as a whole

31:38 Speaker 4: complete look and not just like what is this stress doing?

31:41 Speaker 1: Yes, I think so too. And another My fourth is

31:46 Speaker 1: going to go to Miss Lizzo in Siriano. I'm not

31:54 Speaker 1: even going to get into how snatched her waist is

31:57 Speaker 1: because y'all bullied that lady into getting there, and I'm

32:00 Speaker 1: just glad she looks so good. Y'all mad at her again,

32:02 Speaker 1: looks good, looks happy, yes, all of that happy. Don't

32:07 Speaker 1: care how she did it, because even if she did

32:09 Speaker 1: do the gop ones or whatever, that literally was used

32:11 Speaker 1: to be eating ice on TikTok with her fruit every

32:14 Speaker 1: morning and work out for three hours on TikTok all

32:16 Speaker 1: throughout COVID. So she got to Lizzo forgetting the body

32:19 Speaker 1: that makes her feel so damn good. She looked good

32:22 Speaker 1: as hell. Yeah, yeah, okay, he was feeling good as

32:26 Speaker 1: hell looking good as Helle, and her dress spoke to me.

32:30 Speaker 1: Christian really got her together in a way that made

32:35 Speaker 1: it feel like, Okay, you love your body, you want

32:38 Speaker 1: to say f you to the haters. Then here we're

32:41 Speaker 1: gonna make it do what it do for your body,

32:43 Speaker 1: and it.

32:43 Speaker 2: Is well he he really understands with those bodies, oh yeah,

32:50 Speaker 2: and has always understood because even if you think about

32:53 Speaker 2: our Project Runway when they make them do the one

32:55 Speaker 2: challenge where they have to use a real woman's body

32:58 Speaker 2: and not a model body, and most of them fail miserably.

33:03 Speaker 2: He has always gotten it, he has always understood it,

33:06 Speaker 2: and so I think, yes, the way he designs for

33:10 Speaker 2: women in different shapes, it's just.

33:13 Speaker 1: Just just I'm so like the pride in him is

33:18 Speaker 1: like an understatement, like I think it is so good

33:21 Speaker 1: that I'm like, it's like if he would stop knocking

33:23 Speaker 1: it out of the park with every especially Kirby plush

33:26 Speaker 1: woman that he dresses, I could come up for air.

33:29 Speaker 1: But like he's eating the girls up. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

33:32 Speaker 1: especially because people can see themselves in fashion. When the

33:36 Speaker 1: honored like him make things like that, oh, putore pieces,

33:41 Speaker 1: real specific pieces, runway pieces like you know, customers, it

33:46 Speaker 1: makes you feel like anyone could do the dress up thing,

33:50 Speaker 1: which it does.

33:51 Speaker 2: It really does what I wish Christian Siriano was Christian

33:55 Speaker 2: Siriano when Jennifer Hudson won the Oscars, because oh, that

34:01 Speaker 2: brown dress in Balero lives in my nightmares.

34:05 Speaker 1: And I just.

34:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like that was that was such the

34:12 Speaker 2: time where the houses wouldn't dress you know, bigger girls

34:15 Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff, and I'm just like, oh,

34:16 Speaker 2: I wish we could just work and back in time

34:19 Speaker 2: to make her something super beautiful on the night when

34:22 Speaker 2: she was gonna.

34:22 Speaker 3: Win an oscar.

34:23 Speaker 1: Yes, and then of course my top number one is

34:26 Speaker 1: well not number one necessarily of like winners, but my

34:29 Speaker 1: last of my favorite dress this is Halle Berry. I

34:32 Speaker 1: thought she looked amazing, Like did we already know that, yes,

34:36 Speaker 1: but the fact that Halle can come in here this many,

34:39 Speaker 1: like decades after and still be a stunner, Like everyone

34:43 Speaker 1: is talking about her being best dressed and she's been

34:45 Speaker 1: doing this how many red carpets right right, right, right

34:48 Speaker 1: right because she lord, okay, I'm here. I'm hearing her

34:52 Speaker 1: on every other podcast, and she's like she wants best

34:55 Speaker 1: dress man Like she looked amazing, beautiful, effortless, and I

34:59 Speaker 1: just get whatever she got in the You know, I

35:02 Speaker 1: won't buy the group stuff, but whatever Hallie Barry got

35:05 Speaker 1: going on in gab Union, I will buy in bulk. Yeah, yeah,

35:11 Speaker 1: because I'll do that. Like, first of all, Gabrielle Union

35:16 Speaker 1: was on watching It Happens Live the other day and

35:18 Speaker 1: my god, oh, she looked are you thirty?

35:22 Speaker 3: Like girl, she is aging backwards young.

35:26 Speaker 1: I'm like, you look younger than Andy.

35:27 Speaker 3: I'm confused, Like she would like bring it on Gabrielle Union,

35:32 Speaker 3: who was already.

35:33 Speaker 2: When she was bringing it on. Yeah, she's looking like

35:36 Speaker 2: she will, looking like she could go back to bring

35:38 Speaker 2: it on and play a teenager.

35:39 Speaker 1: Absolutely, like she's all that.

35:41 Speaker 3: And playing teenage.

35:44 Speaker 1: I you know, sister sister. Taraji p Hinton and Gabrielle

35:47 Speaker 1: Union were both on there like in guest spots periodically,

35:50 Speaker 1: and they were like considerably older than everybody else on

35:54 Speaker 1: the show when they did it, Like I think Taraji

35:56 Speaker 1: was like twenty five or twenty something like right right right,

35:59 Speaker 1: but you wouldn't know, and you still wouldn't know now,

36:01 Speaker 1: like are you still twenty five? Like did we freeze?

36:05 Speaker 1: Just And I thought Wayne also looked fantastic on the

36:08 Speaker 1: red carpet. Look very old Hollywood, very sophisticated, very like

36:14 Speaker 1: old money, very black. I said, oh, Debor, Deborah, Dwayne

36:23 Speaker 1: and Gap I loved him so much. They're also like

36:26 Speaker 1: the best parents ever. Just putting that out there. Your

36:30 Speaker 1: goals for sure for real? Okay, so our worst are

36:35 Speaker 1: not so great? Like who were the biggest misses of

36:39 Speaker 1: the night? For me? I will start with doja cat No.

36:43 Speaker 1: I don't want it, I don't like it, and it's

36:46 Speaker 1: not I don't care who it was. I don't care

36:48 Speaker 1: how it was constructed. She looked like Jessica Rabbit in

36:50 Speaker 1: a l and leopard print. That's what she went to me.

36:53 Speaker 1: It literally looks like Jessica Rabbit's dress, the complete cut

36:57 Speaker 1: and everything. That hair. I didn't like ford love and

37:00 Speaker 1: natural hair that wasn't the one. The color, the tone color,

37:04 Speaker 1: didn't like that, none of it. I ain't like the scarf,

37:07 Speaker 1: didn't like that, didn't like it.

37:10 Speaker 3: And the scarf trend in general.

37:12 Speaker 1: You know, I don't really love us scarf. I don't

37:13 Speaker 1: think we need as many things around our neck anymore

37:15 Speaker 1: as we thought we did. I have used the statement

37:19 Speaker 1: necklace his back in the day, so in infinity scars.

37:22 Speaker 1: So I think I'm just traumatized, and I'm like, no, no.

37:25 Speaker 2: I think it's like it's this, you know, everything from

37:28 Speaker 2: the late nineties and early two thousands is coming back.

37:30 Speaker 2: And I wore a scarf like that to my problem

37:33 Speaker 2: in two thousand or two thousand and one whatever, and

37:36 Speaker 2: I just I was like, that trend could have stayed

37:40 Speaker 2: back there, Yeah, is how I feel.

37:44 Speaker 1: I think it definitely it could have stayed.

37:46 Speaker 3: It could have That's a trend I did not like

37:48 Speaker 3: on the Red Car. And there were a lot of.

37:51 Speaker 1: Scar yeah, a lot of scarfs, A lot of trains

37:55 Speaker 1: that I didn't appreciate. Draping, Yeah, there was a lot

37:58 Speaker 1: of train action, a lot of like back curtains that

38:01 Speaker 1: I was like, huh, that's a choice, like storm read

38:06 Speaker 1: love her. I thought her dress was great. The cake

38:08 Speaker 1: confused me and I didn't like it.

38:10 Speaker 3: But not dress.

38:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, good. But then I'm also like together, it

38:15 Speaker 1: only made sense together. But it only made sense from

38:18 Speaker 1: the front. It only looked good from the front.

38:20 Speaker 3: I don't even take you looks a good from the front.

38:22 Speaker 3: I found it.

38:23 Speaker 1: Aged her, Yeah, okay, she could have.

38:26 Speaker 2: I mean, if she was just gonna go with a

38:27 Speaker 2: short dress, like she should have just gone all.

38:30 Speaker 3: In with the short dress. And so I just felt

38:34 Speaker 3: like it really really made her look a lot.

38:37 Speaker 1: Older than she Yeah, I think so too. It didn't

38:40 Speaker 1: look good. It didn't look good. Who else another one

38:46 Speaker 1: for me? In worst dress? And I love her And

38:48 Speaker 1: it is no indication of her In fact, she's so talented.

38:52 Speaker 1: Maybe she just doesn't have like the eye for style

38:54 Speaker 1: all the time that she needs to have, And that

38:57 Speaker 1: is one miss overlooked Cynthia Arivo. I didn't like it.

39:04 Speaker 1: I didn't like it. I didn't like it. It wasn't wicked.

39:07 Speaker 1: I didn't like it. I didn't like it at all.

39:09 Speaker 1: I thought it was not good. The accessions weren't good.

39:12 Speaker 1: She's gorgeous. Didn't like the purse with the dress. It

39:15 Speaker 1: really upset me because I'm almost like I can't even

39:19 Speaker 1: decide if this dress is good or not because of

39:21 Speaker 1: the purse, Like I'm confused by what I'm looking at

39:24 Speaker 1: the accession. I didn't like it.

39:27 Speaker 2: So here's what, Oh god, I forgot. Lapita is also

39:32 Speaker 2: on my tip. I'm adding a sixth person, Lapita Nyagoing.

39:36 Speaker 2: But the thing that stressed me out about Cynthia I

39:42 Speaker 2: didn't she didn't make my top five worst dress, but

39:45 Speaker 2: her outfit stressed me out because it was trying.

39:48 Speaker 3: To make too many statements in too many places.

39:51 Speaker 1: Yeah.

39:52 Speaker 2: So, like you had the giant sleeves, right, you had

39:58 Speaker 2: that crazy moleficent neck, you had you know, the hips

40:04 Speaker 2: on the like I would have picked one thing and

40:10 Speaker 2: made it the thing, Like, if you want to do

40:12 Speaker 2: the maleficent neckline, do a streamline dress everywhere else?

40:16 Speaker 1: Yes, I understand and then.

40:17 Speaker 2: And then suddenly you're giving alpha bove. But make it

40:21 Speaker 2: fashion right, right right.

40:24 Speaker 5: If you're gonna do that those giant you know hips

40:28 Speaker 5: in the bottom of the skirt and everything like that,

40:31 Speaker 5: you don't also need that crazy neckline and those sleeves.

40:35 Speaker 3: And so I think it was stressful to me because

40:38 Speaker 3: there was just too much happening.

40:42 Speaker 1: It was way too much happening. An honorable mention to

40:46 Speaker 1: that is like I was really upset because the after

40:49 Speaker 1: party also didn't look good. Oh yeah, I was upset

40:53 Speaker 1: about that heart purse. I didn't said about the necklace.

40:56 Speaker 1: I was like away.

40:58 Speaker 2: The thing about the after a party dress, I will say,

41:01 Speaker 2: is you know how Vanity Fair does the d they

41:03 Speaker 2: have them do, like the videos and all of that stuff.

41:06 Speaker 2: So it's like behind the scenes, if you watch the

41:10 Speaker 2: outfit move it makes sense.

41:12 Speaker 1: Okay, so I watched it move.

41:15 Speaker 3: You did, I didn't.

41:17 Speaker 1: I think again, I think it was like the I

41:21 Speaker 1: think that if we were going to wear that and

41:24 Speaker 1: it be so like abstract. It literally looks like they

41:27 Speaker 1: threw the fabric over her.

41:29 Speaker 2: Body, like they.

41:30 Speaker 1: Went and they're like yeah, then like pinned it and

41:33 Speaker 1: like put a ribbon on top. Then I think we

41:35 Speaker 1: should have been clean everywhere else clean clean, clean everything

41:40 Speaker 1: from stud ear rings and a heel and we're good

41:42 Speaker 1: to go.

41:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, I will give you that. I will give.

41:45 Speaker 1: Accessories were a lot, Like everything was a lot, and

41:48 Speaker 1: I hate to say it as a girl with long nails,

41:51 Speaker 1: but it didn't work with this dress. Her long Yeah,

41:55 Speaker 1: it didn't work.

41:56 Speaker 3: You know, I'm a nail girly.

41:57 Speaker 2: Okay, and I I actually wished that she had.

42:02 Speaker 3: Toned the nails down.

42:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I am team extra extra read all about

42:09 Speaker 2: it with the nails. But even I was like, girl,

42:12 Speaker 2: we noticed as a press all these are press all

42:14 Speaker 2: you're gonna pop them off and dumb.

42:17 Speaker 3: Yeah you know what.

42:17 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Have a girl, come and get you a

42:19 Speaker 1: cute little rig coat real quick on your you know,

42:21 Speaker 1: on your nails. And I just felt like she is

42:24 Speaker 1: so beautiful and her head was so clean, her skin

42:27 Speaker 1: looks so good, and it looked like we were going

42:29 Speaker 1: for easy, breezy draping, but they had so much extra.

42:33 Speaker 3: That it was over styled.

42:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I didn't love style. So Cynthia was on

42:38 Speaker 1: my worst dressed even though she was most talented this year.

42:43 Speaker 2: But her archival Vivian Westwood that she wore yes when

42:47 Speaker 2: they performed, that was chef's cat.

42:50 Speaker 3: That was cute.

42:51 Speaker 1: That was very cute. I was very happy about that,

42:55 Speaker 1: you know. And also Honorble mentioned is Ariana Grande. I

42:58 Speaker 1: thought she actually liked the the g what is it

43:01 Speaker 1: the architectural oh sculpture.

43:05 Speaker 3: Yeah.

43:06 Speaker 1: I thought she looked great. I thought she looked and

43:08 Speaker 1: it worked for her. She looked like make it fast.

43:12 Speaker 3: She she did look like Linda ever make it fashion?

43:14 Speaker 1: Yea exactly what like if non if Glinda wasn't like

43:18 Speaker 1: cheesy and going to OZ, but was like going to

43:19 Speaker 1: the I Glinda was going to the Oscars.

43:21 Speaker 3: That's what she That's what she would wear and A hundred.

43:26 Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent. And then I think, what am im?

43:29 Speaker 1: My third or fourth Kim Kardashians. After party looked the

43:33 Speaker 1: white one didn't like it? Fine, I was like, what

43:37 Speaker 1: is it? What did One of her sisters was like,

43:39 Speaker 1: what did you take your Chris Humphries wedding dress?

43:45 Speaker 2: That's exactly what it looked like. It's so funny because

43:48 Speaker 2: I literally was talking to my friend and I was like,

43:50 Speaker 2: why have I seen Kim in this dress before.

43:52 Speaker 3: I know, I haven't seen her, and I was like,

43:54 Speaker 3: I know, it's Valenciaga and they just made it. But

43:56 Speaker 3: I was like, I've seen her in it. That's exactly

43:58 Speaker 3: what it is.

44:00 Speaker 1: And I think was like Shay and her was like, look,

44:02 Speaker 1: she had to take her wedding dress out of retirement

44:05 Speaker 1: and this would it look like it was given? Was

44:10 Speaker 1: given like pre money. Kim went to David's bridal shout out,

44:13 Speaker 1: but this is Kim Kardashian and the oscars not me,

44:16 Speaker 1: like it looked like. She went to the David's bridle.

44:19 Speaker 1: She picked up the first gown in the non chiffon

44:22 Speaker 1: so that it wouldn't be glary and put it on strapless,

44:25 Speaker 1: got a clean face, and put the hair in a bun.

44:27 Speaker 1: She looks like the models of the dresses, like the

44:31 Speaker 1: not like the showing up the dresses like hey, I'm

44:34 Speaker 1: just here and I'm like, Kim.

44:36 Speaker 2: I can't get the Chris Humphries wedding out of my

44:38 Speaker 2: head because the hair was the same.

44:40 Speaker 1: Like it was.

44:41 Speaker 3: I can't. I can't.

44:42 Speaker 2: The hair, the makeup, it was, oh my gosh, I'm

44:45 Speaker 2: never gonna get that out much.

44:48 Speaker 1: It was not good. Didn't love that. And then my last,

44:51 Speaker 1: but not least, is Timothy shallow Man and that girlfriend

44:54 Speaker 1: of his. And now here's the thing, Timothy, let me

44:55 Speaker 1: tell you something. I'm gonna needed you to stick to

44:58 Speaker 1: different colors. Every color doesn't work for everybody. First, it

45:02 Speaker 1: was that pink treck suit that I literally DMed Erica.

45:04 Speaker 1: We were talking about it.

45:05 Speaker 2: We were like, what is what is happening?

45:10 Speaker 1: A Marilyn Monroe moment and you're in your pis suit.

45:15 Speaker 1: It's giving joggers. What are you doing?

45:18 Speaker 2: I'm living your Adam Sandler best Life's so small.

45:23 Speaker 1: Didn't like it. And now this Mustard situation. It was

45:27 Speaker 1: giving Tom standeval ghost to get costumes like he does

45:30 Speaker 1: every year, and I didn't like it. I understand, Muster's

45:33 Speaker 1: the color. It shouldn't be or it shouldn't be on him.

45:36 Speaker 3: It shouldn't know. It was not It was not a

45:41 Speaker 3: good color. The suit, the bottom half wasn't.

45:44 Speaker 2: I actually think if he had had that top half

45:48 Speaker 2: in a different color, like the jacket was actually great.

45:52 Speaker 3: And I loved that he went for like a shorter jacket,

45:55 Speaker 3: a short.

45:55 Speaker 2: Like to me, that is fashion forward and in another

45:58 Speaker 2: color it would have been fashioned black tie fashion and forward,

46:01 Speaker 2: but I can't get over the pants and I wish

46:03 Speaker 2: he had worn his Vanity Fair suit to the Oscars.

46:07 Speaker 1: Yes, now, the Vanity Fair I got into.

46:12 Speaker 3: I really really really liked the Vanities.

46:14 Speaker 1: I think they both looked good going to the they

46:21 Speaker 1: huh everybody more like they're cute outfits to the part

46:25 Speaker 1: like the not cute office to the ceremony.

46:28 Speaker 2: But I think some of that is paid to play, Okay.

46:34 Speaker 2: I think a lot of that is the like you're

46:37 Speaker 2: this brand, you're the random bassador, you have to do this,

46:39 Speaker 2: you have to wear that, and vanity fairs where.

46:41 Speaker 3: You get to wear which could pick out right?

46:45 Speaker 1: I think choices.

46:48 Speaker 2: Kim Yeah, I don't Kimberly Noel Kardashian.

46:52 Speaker 3: I'm not sure why.

46:53 Speaker 1: Not, because I know she has all the resources. I

46:55 Speaker 1: mean I still put on her show to do laundry

46:57 Speaker 1: in the background. And I know you got the resources

47:00 Speaker 1: because every Thursday when I turned it on, you were

47:01 Speaker 1: in somebody's design house going to their archives from like

47:05 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two.

47:06 Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't, I do understand.

47:10 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know mine. Worse, there were

47:14 Speaker 1: a lot the list could have been a lot longer,

47:16 Speaker 1: but would have been a lot longer.

47:18 Speaker 2: So we agree on storm Read, and we agree on

47:23 Speaker 2: Timothy Shallome. So my other worst dress, and these next.

47:28 Speaker 3: Two really really paying me to say it because his actresses.

47:31 Speaker 3: I love them.

47:31 Speaker 1: Oh no, I think I know, because I have an

47:33 Speaker 1: honorable mention too.

47:35 Speaker 2: Okay, well let's see if your honorable mention is Zoe

47:38 Speaker 2: Saldana or Dave I enjoy Randolph.

47:40 Speaker 1: Okay, so mine is Zoe's Eldonna and Peaky Palmer. Oh

47:46 Speaker 1: loved the dress, ish the bando, this is the place this,

47:52 Speaker 1: didn't like the specific misfit like I got you, I

47:56 Speaker 1: got you. Any other coverage of the hitty area and yeah,

48:03 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. Just the band of it all.

48:06 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, that's giving throw it on under like

48:09 Speaker 1: my tube top and I'm going to go to the mall.

48:11 Speaker 3: And then yeah, yeah, I can see that. I could

48:14 Speaker 3: see that. I can see that being.

48:15 Speaker 1: A great hand to toe. I love the construction of

48:17 Speaker 1: the chains. I love the bottom. It was just the band,

48:21 Speaker 1: if the middle or sweetheart anything else, yeah.

48:25 Speaker 3: Anything, I'm with you. I'm with you on that.

48:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, I did.

48:29 Speaker 2: Not I'm not gonna eat her up from trying to

48:35 Speaker 2: make that my brand, but.

48:38 Speaker 3: Just was like the exact wrong dress for her body,

48:42 Speaker 3: and every single way.

48:44 Speaker 1: Hate when that happens.

48:46 Speaker 2: It's it's like there's I hated the opera gloves with it.

48:50 Speaker 3: I didn't understand the like being sheer.

48:53 Speaker 2: Across her chest but having this very heavy balloon bubble

48:58 Speaker 2: fabric at the bottom juxtaposition didn't make sense to me.

49:02 Speaker 2: The color on her skin tone didn't make sense to me.

49:05 Speaker 2: Like there was just nothing about it that made sense

49:09 Speaker 2: to me. And I get her styles like a little

49:11 Speaker 2: bit edgier, and she wanted you know, she might have

49:14 Speaker 2: wanted to do something like that, but I just don't

49:16 Speaker 2: think this was it. Like I just there was no

49:21 Speaker 2: choice about anything in that look that made sense to me.

49:25 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, not a one. I didn't like it.

49:27 Speaker 3: I just I did. I did what it is and

49:32 Speaker 3: then the Davine Joy Randolph of it all.

49:35 Speaker 2: I love her and we have seen her pull some

49:37 Speaker 2: beautiful looks, like when she was at the Met Gallant

49:40 Speaker 2: and that Dunim gown again from Zach Posen with gap

49:43 Speaker 2: that was beautiful and stunning. I've seen her in magazine shoots.

49:47 Speaker 2: It looked beautiful I hated everything about it. I hated

49:50 Speaker 2: that scarf. It made it look like she had no neck.

49:53 Speaker 2: It was too much going on in the chest that

49:56 Speaker 2: I understand wanting to sinch the waist, but it looked

49:58 Speaker 2: super super exaggerated against the hips. I didn't understand, like

50:03 Speaker 2: the fabric choice, Like I just I.

50:06 Speaker 3: Hated all of it.

50:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't good. It was not good. And again

50:10 Speaker 1: to stand out this year and not good is actually

50:13 Speaker 1: kind of tackling because the list could have been longer.

50:18 Speaker 3: No, and it's like that I.

50:20 Speaker 2: Just pulled up the picture again because there's just so

50:22 Speaker 2: much I dislike that center piece in the middle right,

50:27 Speaker 2: and then I get like the rushing is like I

50:30 Speaker 2: understand what she's trying to do, right, she's trying to

50:32 Speaker 2: create that hour glass figure, but it's too exaggerating when

50:35 Speaker 2: you put the rushing right at the hips. So I'm like,

50:39 Speaker 2: all you're doing is drawing our attention to the hips.

50:43 Speaker 2: You have the scarfall, but your chest is so popped

50:46 Speaker 2: up you actually look like you don't have a neck, right,

50:48 Speaker 2: Like I just I don't.

50:51 Speaker 3: I don't like get anything.

50:52 Speaker 1: About it, and I love I do too, but it

50:56 Speaker 1: didn't work. It did not work. I didn't work Madison's dress.

51:02 Speaker 1: I feel completely forgot about her. I was like, how

51:05 Speaker 1: you gonna win?

51:08 Speaker 2: But I think I think the design house. Yeah, that's her,

51:11 Speaker 2: that's my guest.

51:12 Speaker 1: It's not even her fault is just it is what

51:14 Speaker 1: it is.

51:15 Speaker 3: She's young. I'm like, she's young and it looks old.

51:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, very old, man. A lot of that happened this

51:20 Speaker 1: year too, a lot.

51:21 Speaker 3: She's young, twenty five and she looks old. She looks

51:26 Speaker 3: very old.

51:27 Speaker 1: Like. Notice that I didn't even say, please keep going because.

51:30 Speaker 3: I'll go ahead. What were we gonna say?

51:33 Speaker 1: I completely forgot because I am not trying to bully her,

51:36 Speaker 1: but Millie, I need us to do some work. I

51:38 Speaker 1: need us to have conversations with the right people.

51:42 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, like you said, I think they're just stressing old.

51:44 Speaker 3: Like even Miley.

51:45 Speaker 1: Cyrus is styling old. Yeah, they looked a lot older

51:48 Speaker 1: than they.

51:49 Speaker 3: What they are.

51:50 Speaker 2: And I just I'm like, you know, and I honestly,

51:53 Speaker 2: this Dior dress that Mikey has on, I bet if

51:59 Speaker 2: she had simply changed the top from black to pink

52:02 Speaker 2: or white, it would have totally changed the look of

52:04 Speaker 2: the dress.

52:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I can see that. I could. I think the.

52:09 Speaker 3: Necklace is weird to me.

52:10 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have a necklace coming down that low, that

52:12 Speaker 2: close to the bodice.

52:13 Speaker 3: But I think that black looks like heavy and.

52:20 Speaker 2: I just think if she would have chosen a lighter color,

52:22 Speaker 2: it would totally change her makeup is also old like

52:25 Speaker 2: around her eyes makes her look older with like that

52:28 Speaker 2: super dark makeup.

52:30 Speaker 3: My last person that was worst dressed, and again.

52:34 Speaker 2: This is someone I love and I loved his Vanity

52:37 Speaker 2: Fair outfit was Jeff Goldblum. I wish he would have

52:40 Speaker 2: worn the Vanity Fair outfit.

52:41 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I wish he would have too. Jeff. I

52:45 Speaker 1: loved Jeff. He did great, you know, wicked, you know big.

52:48 Speaker 1: We're all looking at y'all.

52:50 Speaker 2: She's fantastic, And normally he's great on a red carpet,

52:55 Speaker 2: like he normally does a risk.

52:57 Speaker 3: In something out of the ordinary and does it be beautifully.

53:01 Speaker 2: I just think this one was a miss, and I

53:03 Speaker 2: wish he would have worn the Vanity Fair outfit to

53:06 Speaker 2: the actual oscars. I think that's where he would have gotten,

53:09 Speaker 2: you know, taking stepping out of the comfort zone, doing

53:12 Speaker 2: something out of the box, taking a risk, but looking

53:16 Speaker 2: just pulled together.

53:17 Speaker 3: Looking debonair, looking dapper, like I just he should have

53:20 Speaker 3: he should have worn the vanity fair.

53:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, the theme of today is all y'all should have

53:24 Speaker 2: worn your vanity fair outfits to the oscar.

53:26 Speaker 1: Yes, and we should have like you, you really played

53:29 Speaker 1: us with that first half, because I was like, this

53:31 Speaker 1: is are y'all new here? This isn't good? Like but

53:34 Speaker 1: also to my young lady's Millie Storm Sophia Richie, who

53:39 Speaker 1: is going down a very Olsen twin path like in

53:43 Speaker 1: a lot of the looks, but like, stop dressing older

53:46 Speaker 1: in the older makeup like. Yeah, I think Kendall and

53:51 Speaker 1: Kylie as fashion girlies did a really nice job looking

53:55 Speaker 1: young and fun but also keeping it fashion like, like

53:58 Speaker 1: we said Kendall's red carpet and other and vanity fair look.

54:04 Speaker 1: I thought eight meet up, I could just as young

54:07 Speaker 1: and fine. Why is Sophia younger than you looking older

54:10 Speaker 1: than you? It's that hell of that old husband. That's

54:14 Speaker 1: what that is. That's what that is. She's like, oh man,

54:18 Speaker 1: yeah he is old. He's like because Sophia is younger

54:21 Speaker 1: than me, like like a bit, and this man is

54:24 Speaker 1: considerably older than me, like by at least fifteen years.

54:27 Speaker 3: So.

54:29 Speaker 1: You gotta be heard two. Speaking of the husbands, before

54:33 Speaker 1: we wrap up our fashion talk, I wanted to know

54:36 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the Potomac Reunion looks. They there was

54:42 Speaker 1: a theme, there were two themes. There were two things.

54:46 Speaker 1: I'd be curious to know what Bravo thought their theme was,

54:49 Speaker 1: because we all thought the theme was titty kitty, I

54:53 Speaker 1: want to display on display, Honey.

54:57 Speaker 3: You always white, like they always have to wear white.

55:01 Speaker 1: I think they do often jewel tones or like that.

55:06 Speaker 3: You're right, because there was that they have the yellows and.

55:08 Speaker 1: The blues, and they they've done pinks, They've done like

55:13 Speaker 1: Champagny and then here we are they ate up yellow.

55:17 Speaker 1: But this was like what yeah, they did?

55:20 Speaker 3: So here's so I like the white okay, and I want.

55:32 Speaker 2: Them to maybe try again. I mean, this is this

55:34 Speaker 2: is this is a wild take. But I actually thought

55:37 Speaker 2: Giselle was one of the best looking.

55:39 Speaker 1: No, it really wasn't that wild of a take. We

55:41 Speaker 1: were all shocked, like used, We were like huh.

55:45 Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't listen.

55:47 Speaker 1: I got a new stylist again, like Wendy stylist.

55:51 Speaker 2: I think again, maybe okay, because I was like in

55:53 Speaker 2: it shows, it's show.

55:56 Speaker 3: So here's.

56:00 Speaker 2: Here's what I think happened. We know the reunion is

56:04 Speaker 2: a sit down reunion. It is and so and so

56:08 Speaker 2: I think it is everyone. Let's make sure we just

56:11 Speaker 2: emphasize it is every year. Every year it's a sit

56:14 Speaker 2: down reunion and everything. I think everyone over emphasized what

56:20 Speaker 2: their outfit was.

56:21 Speaker 1: Gonna look like sitting down got you? You think that

56:23 Speaker 1: was their focus?

56:24 Speaker 2: And so I think because they yeah, I think that

56:27 Speaker 2: was their focus. So I think that's why we got

56:28 Speaker 2: so much chanty. I think that's why we got so

56:30 Speaker 2: many exaggerated like necklines and shoulder lines and all that

56:34 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. The problem is when everybody does it,

56:36 Speaker 2: it actually clashes mm hmm.

56:40 Speaker 3: So it doesn't look like it goes in.

56:43 Speaker 2: And I know that they don't show each other their

56:44 Speaker 2: looks and they don't talk about it, but this would

56:47 Speaker 2: have been one time.

56:48 Speaker 3: What Bravo needs to do because Bramo has to approve.

56:50 Speaker 2: The outfits, right, So what Brabo needs to do is

56:54 Speaker 2: get the pictures of everybody's outfit and then let a

56:57 Speaker 2: stylist come in and say, okay, if you're gonna do

57:00 Speaker 2: like Wendy and Ashley, were just opposite couches with the

57:05 Speaker 2: same thing happening right Like I couldn't. K's breasts were

57:10 Speaker 2: just so just shot. I was like, they are gonna

57:12 Speaker 2: pop out at any moment.

57:13 Speaker 3: Kay and me. I was just like, y'all.

57:15 Speaker 2: Get a little too hype and we're gonna get a

57:17 Speaker 2: blur because like there's so much. But I think everyone

57:20 Speaker 2: was trying to like focus on how they've looked sitting down.

57:24 Speaker 2: It just actually ended up looking like too much when

57:27 Speaker 2: they were sitting down. I think they all looked better

57:29 Speaker 2: together when they were standing, but when they were sitting,

57:33 Speaker 2: it just was like a big oldmen.

57:34 Speaker 3: I did not like Wendy's dress at all.

57:37 Speaker 1: Yet I did not like Wendy's or Stacy's, and seeing

57:40 Speaker 1: the next to each other was really.

57:45 Speaker 3: I didn't I yeah.

57:47 Speaker 1: Flowers of Stacy's and next because I just don't like

57:50 Speaker 1: floral prints like or floral designs. Yeah, it could be

57:53 Speaker 1: like a three D floral dress. I didn't enjoy. But

57:57 Speaker 1: I thought it was cut well, it.

58:01 Speaker 3: Was very Yeah, it was beautiful. It was cut really

58:03 Speaker 3: really beautifully. I actually I like Keana's dress except for

58:07 Speaker 3: the way the top bit.

58:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the top was.

58:13 Speaker 3: Stress out balloons in here.

58:16 Speaker 1: Yeah.

58:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I wish the top was like a little

58:19 Speaker 2: bit better fitting. But I actually really really loved hers.

58:21 Speaker 2: I didn't like the top of.

58:22 Speaker 1: MIA's Gazelle did look Bess stressed im in this case,

58:29 Speaker 1: she was the best looking. What do you think about

58:33 Speaker 1: Ashley's I mean, I.

58:35 Speaker 3: Just felt like Ashley's dress looked like how Ashley's dress

58:39 Speaker 3: was always.

58:40 Speaker 1: Yes, the it was very like subdued avant guard, which

58:46 Speaker 1: is like contradictory, but like the bottom is very like

58:50 Speaker 1: regular and the top is like, no, I'll give it

58:53 Speaker 1: a show, which but that's a little much.

58:56 Speaker 2: But yes, but that's what I'm saying, like the we

58:59 Speaker 2: are so heavily concentrated on with the top of the

59:02 Speaker 2: dress lists like, I.

59:04 Speaker 1: Just I would have changed her hair for it too.

59:06 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have done it, half of I wouldn't.

59:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah I didn't. I did not.

59:11 Speaker 1: If you're gonna have that neck or that chest line.

59:13 Speaker 3: Now you gotta just like let it pull it up, yeah,

59:16 Speaker 3: pull it up. You gotta put it back.

59:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean I guess I also you know

59:23 Speaker 2: who's wig?

59:24 Speaker 3: I did not like Stacy's.

59:26 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, Stacey had a bad not good Reunion, to finish,

59:30 Speaker 1: start to finish.

59:32 Speaker 2: Oh my god, wait listen, I had to get on threads.

59:35 Speaker 2: I was like, y'all are letting me watch the Oscars

59:37 Speaker 2: when this was going down.

59:38 Speaker 1: Like it was incredible, chow, it was incredible.

59:42 Speaker 2: They didn't even bring out Greg because Eddie busted the

59:47 Speaker 2: thing all wide open.

59:49 Speaker 1: To bring Edie out. I was chancing for my couch,

59:52 Speaker 1: bring Edie out. And I think that I'm just gonna

59:53 Speaker 1: be asking this question for the next few weeks to

59:56 Speaker 1: every guest. Do you think Stacy is telling me that truth?

1:00:00 Speaker 1: Do you believe Stacey or TJ? Not explicitly, I mean,

1:00:03 Speaker 1: like with a grain of salt, do you believe that

1:00:06 Speaker 1: there was some kind of exchange and deal for him

1:00:08 Speaker 1: to appear on the show.

1:00:09 Speaker 3: I don't. I do not think she paid him. I

1:00:13 Speaker 3: do think she told him it would give him exposure

1:00:15 Speaker 3: and help his.

1:00:15 Speaker 1: Career, and instead we all thought he was a terrible

1:00:19 Speaker 1: piece of shit because he.

1:00:20 Speaker 3: Was well, yeah, he was trash. But on they only

1:00:25 Speaker 3: edit what you give them, thank you.

1:00:28 Speaker 2: But I do I do think she said something about

1:00:32 Speaker 2: it could help You'll get exposure, You'll be in front of.

1:00:34 Speaker 3: More eyes, blah blah, blah blah blah. I don't think

1:00:38 Speaker 3: she paid him.

1:00:40 Speaker 1: Okay, do you think that there's truth or a possibility

1:00:43 Speaker 1: that there was like a I will cover your expenses.

1:00:46 Speaker 6: Oh yeah.

1:00:47 Speaker 2: I think she probably was like, I'll pay for your

1:00:49 Speaker 2: flights to come into DC.

1:00:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, like all of that. I think she absolutely paid

1:00:53 Speaker 3: for those flights and did.

1:00:54 Speaker 1: All of that.

1:00:55 Speaker 3: But I don't think she was like, let me pay

1:00:58 Speaker 3: you twenty.

1:00:59 Speaker 2: Five thousand dollars to act like my boyfriend on the show.

1:01:01 Speaker 2: I think she was come be on the show. We're

1:01:05 Speaker 2: already really good friends, so we can have a little

1:01:08 Speaker 2: romantic interest. It's going to help your career, and I'll

1:01:11 Speaker 2: cover your you know, I'll pay for your flights.

1:01:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. I'm still very curious to hear, like, you know,

1:01:17 Speaker 1: because it's going people are like, I don't believe him,

1:01:19 Speaker 1: or I believe her and I believe him. I don't

1:01:22 Speaker 1: believe either of them because I think that what we

1:01:24 Speaker 1: think is the justification of what she may have done

1:01:29 Speaker 1: is just as bad as paying someone to be your boyfriend.

1:01:31 Speaker 1: You actually just didn't need your best friend who apparently

1:01:34 Speaker 1: doesn't like you, to come on the show at all.

1:01:36 Speaker 1: You didn't I understand that she was nervous that she

1:01:39 Speaker 1: wasn't going to be maybe probably like a full time housewife,

1:01:43 Speaker 1: you know in the Tuna Sutton, But like RaSE, they.

1:01:45 Speaker 3: Don't know when they shoot the season if they're.

1:01:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, And because her ex husband like they he will not.

1:01:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, he won't.

1:01:52 Speaker 1: Pab Audi, the kid's not going to be on the show.

1:01:55 Speaker 1: He's not going to be on the show. So like,

1:01:57 Speaker 1: what was she going to film about? But then let

1:01:59 Speaker 1: me see you dating or something? But he was not.

1:02:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, he wasn't it.

1:02:04 Speaker 1: I also he just started a relationship or something like

1:02:07 Speaker 1: y'all had kids or something. I would have told the

1:02:08 Speaker 1: producers that of anything, but to make us believe like

1:02:12 Speaker 1: or to say just because you preface it with he's

1:02:14 Speaker 1: just my best friend, but that's not how you're introducing

1:02:16 Speaker 1: him to us, because you're trying to say, y'all are

1:02:18 Speaker 1: dating and he's treating you terribly. I don't give a

1:02:21 Speaker 1: shit about y'all not having sex or not. He doesn't

1:02:23 Speaker 1: seem like he's even likes you. He doesn't seem like

1:02:26 Speaker 1: he likes her. Yes, I'm like, he doesn't like you,

1:02:29 Speaker 1: and now we know he doesn't. So when she said

1:02:31 Speaker 1: she lost her best friend. But you know, still I.

1:02:33 Speaker 2: Rise, yeah, I mean I thought it was weird too

1:02:37 Speaker 2: when she said to see how he treated me on

1:02:40 Speaker 2: the show, like you weren't there when he was having

1:02:42 Speaker 2: a hissy fit at the party, you know, and all

1:02:45 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. I'm like, you were there when

1:02:47 Speaker 2: he was treating you terribly? Did you just like, did you.

1:02:51 Speaker 3: Fall and bump your head or was it.

1:02:54 Speaker 1: Or did you not care during the time being because

1:02:58 Speaker 1: it meant you would have a spoil the show?

1:03:00 Speaker 3: Well?

1:03:01 Speaker 2: And do you make a good point, because you know,

1:03:03 Speaker 2: people change how they feel once they see how the

1:03:06 Speaker 2: fans react.

1:03:06 Speaker 1: To Bloop Because if anything, I'm like, did you want sympathy? Though?

1:03:12 Speaker 1: If like, did you want course correct? When did you

1:03:14 Speaker 1: course correct? And was like, he treated me terribly and

1:03:16 Speaker 1: that's why we're not friends no more. But you can't

1:03:19 Speaker 1: say that you broke up in part one of the

1:03:23 Speaker 1: reunion and you just told you just invited him or

1:03:26 Speaker 1: told him not to come so that he would not

1:03:28 Speaker 1: tell his side of the story, because yes, it sounds ridiculous,

1:03:31 Speaker 1: but still, and then also when the third part say

1:03:33 Speaker 1: you lost just your best friend, it can't be both

1:03:37 Speaker 1: unless y'all were not really dating or like, again, I

1:03:40 Speaker 1: think it's just as bad to be like, hey, come

1:03:42 Speaker 1: on this show, let's do this mutually beneficial thing for

1:03:44 Speaker 1: each other. That's the same thing to me.

1:03:46 Speaker 2: Is I think it is the same thing for sure,

1:03:51 Speaker 2: But either way, it's not authentic.

1:03:52 Speaker 1: And that's why I look like how it looked.

1:03:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that's the bottom line is

1:03:57 Speaker 2: it wasn't you look. I think it's like, we're so

1:04:02 Speaker 2: I don't care if you get on Housewives and you've

1:04:05 Speaker 2: watched Housewives. We are so far in to the Housewives

1:04:10 Speaker 2: universe you have to know people will snuff out fakeness.

1:04:15 Speaker 1: Yes, we're going to every time you have the time,

1:04:19 Speaker 1: and at the very least girl put something. The area

1:04:21 Speaker 1: is a small community. One of those girls would have

1:04:23 Speaker 1: quickly been like same s, when is she date in TJ,

1:04:26 Speaker 1: which is how they all ended up trying to expose

1:04:28 Speaker 1: her because they were like, we know it, the streets

1:04:30 Speaker 1: have been talking and we don't know who y'all. We

1:04:32 Speaker 1: never seen y'all together together, right, So it's just giving like,

1:04:36 Speaker 1: you know, do a little bit better still down with.

1:04:38 Speaker 3: This whole cast, because if you bring her back.

1:04:41 Speaker 1: I think they absolutely should Okay, absolutely. I think it

1:04:47 Speaker 1: worked out for Kenya as bad as I'm like, you know,

1:04:50 Speaker 1: send the money or whatever on Walter paying for Ubers

1:04:53 Speaker 1: or whatever. On TJ. It worked. We did the third

1:04:58 Speaker 1: part of the reunion folks on a New Housewife. I

1:05:01 Speaker 1: think that is facts, you know what I think about that.

1:05:05 Speaker 1: Though her sheet, I mean her Wendy because they now

1:05:09 Speaker 1: have this thing in a baby. I think Stacy is

1:05:12 Speaker 1: extremely thirsty, I really do, and I like it. I

1:05:15 Speaker 1: think she is a very smart woman.

1:05:17 Speaker 3: I think she's smart.

1:05:19 Speaker 1: I think that contrary to what Gazelle believes of her,

1:05:23 Speaker 1: saying that do we know Stacy to be educated? I

1:05:26 Speaker 1: think that Stacey is at the very least strategic, and

1:05:29 Speaker 1: she has goals for herself, and she is thinking about

1:05:31 Speaker 1: herself long term. And I think we should keep her

1:05:34 Speaker 1: on this show. I think it works well on Potomac.

1:05:38 Speaker 3: I like it. I like it. I'm with it.

1:05:40 Speaker 1: I do, and I thought that they all. I think Stacey,

1:05:42 Speaker 1: even for her first reunion, though I don't like the floral,

1:05:45 Speaker 1: I think she did pretty well in first reunion Housewife. Listen,

1:05:48 Speaker 1: it took Giselle all these years to get a funnel.

1:05:52 Speaker 1: How she loves and for her to be dressed. Wow,

1:05:56 Speaker 1: is it because Karen was in jail? Though I mean, sorry,

1:05:59 Speaker 1: no she's not. She wasn't in jail at the time.

1:06:02 Speaker 1: But is it because is that? Why did you Zelle

1:06:05 Speaker 1: just get like default? Because it was like less is

1:06:07 Speaker 1: more for her and Karen Knight? You know, because because.

1:06:10 Speaker 2: If you think about it, that dress is in the

1:06:13 Speaker 2: vein of what a lot of Like I'm thinking about

1:06:16 Speaker 2: that blue dress that had the crystals and the long sleeves,

1:06:20 Speaker 2: like Giselle's never going to be like, let me put

1:06:23 Speaker 2: a beaded gown on top to bott like she doesn't

1:06:26 Speaker 2: do that. So I was like, I actually think this

1:06:29 Speaker 2: is still in the vein of what she wears. I

1:06:32 Speaker 2: think it's a better style, it's a better cut, it's

1:06:34 Speaker 2: made better for her body.

1:06:36 Speaker 3: I just think I thought element, Yeah, her hair breakup

1:06:40 Speaker 3: was beautiful. I think she just elevated.

1:06:42 Speaker 2: Now did she get to elevate because caroll't unclean?

1:06:46 Speaker 1: Confident? Maybe she felt sure, but she just I mean

1:06:50 Speaker 1: she yeah.

1:06:51 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know if it's empty nest of Giselle.

1:06:55 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's now stylid. I don't know

1:06:56 Speaker 3: what it is but like, let's keep this one because.

1:06:59 Speaker 1: This and whoever who helped you to get this little

1:07:03 Speaker 1: probably wasn't col because you know, we know with the

1:07:06 Speaker 1: work he does. But let me tell you keep that

1:07:08 Speaker 1: person around because this.

1:07:09 Speaker 3: Was all this this is Yeah, this was our best dress.

1:07:13 Speaker 1: I thought this was Gizelle's best reunion to date. She

1:07:16 Speaker 1: was too messy, she was not too crazy. She was hilarious,

1:07:20 Speaker 1: very shady, very bad, very mean. But I don't she

1:07:23 Speaker 1: didn't even take the cake.

1:07:25 Speaker 3: She wasn't, but she you know what. I thought it

1:07:28 Speaker 3: was interesting when Andy said about like the Wendy Giselle

1:07:31 Speaker 3: tag team.

1:07:31 Speaker 1: I was like, I really enjoyed that. I think that

1:07:36 Speaker 1: they should do more of that. Actually, my husband, they're

1:07:39 Speaker 1: not together like Giselle and Wendy when they're not on

1:07:41 Speaker 1: the same page.

1:07:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, my husband is so funny because well listen, all

1:07:47 Speaker 2: your followers or all your mixologists don't know.

1:07:49 Speaker 3: My husband want just photomac.

1:07:51 Speaker 2: But he said, do I think Giselle was like this

1:07:55 Speaker 2: and more likable because Robin wasn't there. Wow, you think

1:08:00 Speaker 2: that they put they put a battery in each other's back.

1:08:02 Speaker 1: Probably they really do.

1:08:05 Speaker 2: Well, they put a battery in each other's back, and

1:08:06 Speaker 2: because they know they're always gonna have that other person

1:08:10 Speaker 2: holding them down, that they don't.

1:08:12 Speaker 1: Let them do.

1:08:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, they can choose to just be like, I'm not engaging.

1:08:16 Speaker 3: I'm not doing that like.

1:08:17 Speaker 2: You're They're not forced to sit down and have some

1:08:20 Speaker 2: of the conversations and all that stuff.

1:08:21 Speaker 3: Of the thrust of them is and Robie.

1:08:22 Speaker 2: Not being there forced her to do that, and I

1:08:25 Speaker 2: actually think it was better for her.

1:08:26 Speaker 3: I never thought about it till you asked me the question.

1:08:28 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, come on, husband, Yes, you know he can stay.

1:08:32 Speaker 1: Eddie can stay. Shout out to Eddie. I love that man.

1:08:36 Speaker 1: I thought he was also on my best dress. His

1:08:37 Speaker 1: tups looks beautiful. He was great, he was fantastic. I

1:08:41 Speaker 1: just think he had a great reunion. Gaselle and Eddie

1:08:44 Speaker 1: had the best reunion. That's layers best reunion. Yes, first chairs.

1:08:51 Speaker 1: I am so proud of them, and Erica. I'm so

1:08:54 Speaker 1: proud of you. I'm so happy for you. You picked

1:08:56 Speaker 1: off your business like full time, full time. You are thrived,

1:09:00 Speaker 1: And please tell people where they can connect with you,

1:09:02 Speaker 1: where they can get more of your fabulous fashion. Y'all

1:09:05 Speaker 1: are doing some you have like a little team now

1:09:07 Speaker 1: like you're doing an amazing social media things, some of

1:09:10 Speaker 1: the collections of like Black History, Moms Style and how

1:09:13 Speaker 1: we've shaped style and fashion in the black culture and

1:09:17 Speaker 1: for women's history. I was like, oh, eating it up,

1:09:19 Speaker 1: eating it up, because then you know, I love me

1:09:21 Speaker 1: some fashion. Where can they have all that engage with

1:09:23 Speaker 1: you and get to know you as your style expertise?

1:09:26 Speaker 2: Oh thank you well, so definitely hop on over to Instagram.

1:09:30 Speaker 3: Your chek is showing. I'm on there.

1:09:33 Speaker 2: I got a social media person that is helping me out,

1:09:35 Speaker 2: but I make a point to go in and answer

1:09:37 Speaker 2: the dms and talk to the people and talk.

1:09:39 Speaker 3: To the girls.

1:09:40 Speaker 2: So yes, it will really be me and you DM

1:09:43 Speaker 2: and you know, commenting and all of that. You can

1:09:46 Speaker 2: also Threads has also been like my new favorite place.

1:09:49 Speaker 2: So I've been hanging out around a lot on Threads

1:09:51 Speaker 2: and still your cheek is showing, And then you can

1:09:53 Speaker 2: go to our website your sheek is showing dot com.

1:09:56 Speaker 2: I'm trying to make this easy for all of you

1:09:58 Speaker 2: all to see all of the late stuff that we're doing,

1:10:00 Speaker 2: the latest events, and make sure you subscribe to our

1:10:04 Speaker 2: email list because our email list, which you can do

1:10:07 Speaker 2: it on the website. You can do it from our instagram.

1:10:09 Speaker 2: She could do it from our friends. You can put

1:10:11 Speaker 2: an email list in all the places. But they're the

1:10:13 Speaker 2: first ones that find out about any collaborations we're doing,

1:10:16 Speaker 2: any events that we're doing, any sales that we're doing,

1:10:20 Speaker 2: any just like I do shopping guides for people, and

1:10:23 Speaker 2: we do everything from high end, some more accessible, but

1:10:26 Speaker 2: we email shopping like all of that stuff. But make

1:10:29 Speaker 2: sure you're on the email list, because you're gonna get

1:10:31 Speaker 2: the good good and you're gonna.

1:10:32 Speaker 3: Get it first.

1:10:33 Speaker 1: Yes, please be on the email list, y'all and get

1:10:35 Speaker 1: into it with Erica and her business and brand. Or

1:10:39 Speaker 1: she could shown she made sure and my wife looked

1:10:41 Speaker 1: fantastic and it was looking real bleak. During the wedding time, man,

1:10:45 Speaker 1: me and my wife were actually just reminiscing on like

1:10:48 Speaker 1: what's our wedding was actually not very fun. We actually

1:10:50 Speaker 1: had a terrible tame I'm planning it. It was just

1:10:53 Speaker 1: a lot of stress consistently, Like her parents came in

1:10:57 Speaker 1: and they were asas sixteen and she is very much.

1:10:59 Speaker 2: Like half that.

1:11:00 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, yeah, it was a lot of things.

1:11:03 Speaker 1: But listen, Erica made it work, made it do what

1:11:05 Speaker 1: it do. And I was like, and I couldn't have

1:11:08 Speaker 1: no hand in it, and I make everything work and

1:11:11 Speaker 1: I don't know how, but it did not.

1:11:12 Speaker 3: We kept you, We kept you in the dark.

1:11:15 Speaker 2: But it was one of my most so word clients,

1:11:18 Speaker 2: one of the best experiences.

1:11:19 Speaker 3: I loved it.

1:11:20 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for you and so thankful for you

1:11:22 Speaker 1: to come on and get into it with these fashions. Listen,

1:11:25 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm watching Potomac, but I am on

1:11:28 Speaker 1: this red carpet and I'm on this Instagram and E

1:11:31 Speaker 1: is giving a lot of glad box the people that

1:11:33 Speaker 1: don't need slow motions of these.

1:11:34 Speaker 6: Things podcast episode, Okay, like please like soone and you

1:11:42 Speaker 6: can tell when they're a little shady because they'd be

1:11:44 Speaker 6: like someone so just arrived and they're just like hard eyes.

1:11:49 Speaker 1: In a moment, like and not look stunning, not stunning,

1:11:54 Speaker 1: just here, you know, el Fanning is here and her

1:11:57 Speaker 1: dress was terrible. So there you go. Listen, y'all, thank

1:12:01 Speaker 1: you so much for listening. A lot more random episodes

1:12:05 Speaker 1: coming to you in the middle of the week, because

1:12:07 Speaker 1: again we're trying to get this coin. Shout out to

1:12:10 Speaker 1: all the machine just happening in our government because your

1:12:14 Speaker 1: girl is out of a job again. But it's fine

1:12:18 Speaker 1: because we have more time to talk, more time to

1:12:20 Speaker 1: get into this. But also the podcast is has new representation,

1:12:24 Speaker 1: New Hope, new Blood, so we finally have joined the network.

1:12:28 Speaker 1: We're really excited about it and we're gonna get into this.

1:12:31 Speaker 1: So you're gonna just like Kendrick, We're gonna be popping

1:12:33 Speaker 1: up on your every day, like, hey, let's and when

1:12:38 Speaker 1: I saw these looks, I said, oh, we need to

1:12:40 Speaker 1: talk about this because what difference is we're all thinking

1:12:43 Speaker 1: the same thing. So from our couches, from our pjs,

1:12:47 Speaker 1: from our snuggies and blankets, let's judge the looks together. Guys.

1:12:51 Speaker 1: Thanks for you know, listening. Shout out to everyone who

1:12:56 Speaker 1: has been writing reviews and trying to get me back

1:12:58 Speaker 1: on the charts and things lately and following. Thank you

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1:13:03 Speaker 1: I love that little community over there now at mixing

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1:13:25 Speaker 1: like me. But I don't read it at this point

1:13:27 Speaker 1: because mental health matters these days. But go ahead, it'll

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