Filled to the Gills w/ Kendrick (@withkendricktucker)

0:00 Speaker 1: Oh my god.

0:27 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Okay, pleasantries aside. Hey, y'all listen, it's a lot happening this week. It's an emergency, like we gotta talk. We got we have things to say, coming to you a little bit early and have you know, Kendrick with me, because what else are we gonna do.

0:42 Speaker 1: We've got to talk.

0:43 Speaker 2: We've got to finish celebrating Black Hair History Month, but also we celebrate the winds and we celebrate the Ales child.

0:49 Speaker 1: So we are here.

0:50 Speaker 2: Today, gathering here today, Kendrick Tucker and myself, host of the I Cannot Podcast.

0:57 Speaker 1: Welcome Kendrick, thank you for being here.

1:00 Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, Hello, thank you for having me.

1:03 Speaker 1: Yes, thank you ordering the court.

1:05 Speaker 3: Yes. Please please don't read me like that. George read her? Okay, red, I'm sensitive, Okay, don't do me.

1:15 Speaker 1: Read Okay, maybe my word?

1:19 Speaker 3: Who he gathered?

1:20 Speaker 1: Okay? I know y'all are not living under a rock.

1:24 Speaker 2: You literally hit play because you've been waiting for, you know, to hear everybody's takes on all these things, your different podcasters that you listen to. Yo. It's it's right after we're recording this the day after Karen's sentencing the granddam Huger from that real house as a Potomac, that is, who was recently sentenced on Wednesday, February twenty sixth of twenty twenty five, after like a well after like a month after she should have been sentenced for her what we found out to.

2:00 Speaker 1: Be her fourth d u I related offense that the court knows of right right right right there where.

2:14 Speaker 2: They were like, you're on her, She's been wasting our time for like two decades. I'm like, whoa wow, Okay, Karen, listen, the evidence is stamped, my love, like it was from the beginning.

2:25 Speaker 1: I We'll get there.

2:27 Speaker 2: I'm mean she was sentenced to the prosecutors asked for six months for the four I think out of five charges that she was found guilty of, and six months in the correctional facility the jail. And the judge gave more than that, didn't he He gave somewhere around two years one years suspended, which I'm not a lawyer, but the girlies, the law girlies tell me that that means that she only has to definitely do a year per no fuck ups and no in or out like you, the second year of that sentence is suspending.

3:12 Speaker 2: It can be spent on probation. But shell you misbehave, you will be back in that cot Okay, yes, you know you'll be over there.

3:27 Speaker 1: And I just have to say, on a petty.

3:30 Speaker 2: Note, the jail the likely like there's like there's one out of three places that she could possibly be, it's most likely the one I'm thinking of it. Actually, it is a quarter mile away from a very popular restaurant and area in Potomac that has been featured on the show. Like if you live in Potomac, if you lived in Montgomery County area, you go there often. It is like the family restaurant that's not a chain but like a local chain, Like it's a local restaurant group that does the good the good stuff, and like it is right around the corner.

4:09 Speaker 2: I know Karen has frequented that restaurant multiple times. So to be in jail a quarter mile away from where she used to have cocktails and their fabulous cedar plank salmon served on a cedar plank so bad.

4:24 Speaker 3: Oh, that's that's unfortunate.

4:26 Speaker 4: You don't want to you don't want to be so I can only imagine, you know, if I was in jail down the street from my favorite Chile's like that. Wi me, I'll be thinking about the trip of Dipper all the time.

4:36 Speaker 3: Okay.

4:36 Speaker 2: That the Blinis are so good at founding farmers, one has to wonder.

4:42 Speaker 1: Maybe, oops, I just gave away where I wasn't there.

4:48 Speaker 2: Listen, it's all that we don't know, because but the thing is she's going to go to a correctional facility, and that is the correctional facility facility that according to Fox five DC and some other new sources, that is the correctional facility that the judges ordered her to go to, which would also make sense. It was not very far away from where she was sentenced and took taken in and where she's supposed to do one full year a year suspended. But it's a two year sentence technically, so that year is probation.

5:20 Speaker 2: That's the max. He threw the max at her, even though even the prosecutors, So what do you make of that. Prosecutors didn't even ask for the max. They said, you're on them. We were just like six months, thank you. We just need her to know, stop wasting our time.

5:35 Speaker 1: And we're a little annoyed.

5:36 Speaker 2: We want to be patty, Okay, we want her to just learn her lesson go to time out and the judge.

5:42 Speaker 1: Having it know he wasn't.

5:45 Speaker 4: I would have been like the judge, honestly, now look if order has taught me nothing. Sometimes those judges were here with the prosecute because listen, the prosecution is not setting it. They are recommending. They're saying, look, this is what we think it's gonna go.

5:58 Speaker 1: There are nine times.

5:59 Speaker 4: Out of ten George would be like, you know what, Okay, fine, let's go with that.

6:02 Speaker 3: That seems reasonable to me. But every now and then they'll work.

6:05 Speaker 4: Out a deal and the judge be like you not long enough, no, like, excuse me, but you give it a deal to me? Oh no, ma'am. Let me let me now do my own calculations, because I think your calculator was broken. So my time exactly, because now she's wasted it. She's wasted months of my time at this damn trial. So no, no, no, I can't imagine trying to get six months for four DUIs. That's crazy.

6:35 Speaker 2: Fourth offense. I didn't know you could get that many like offenses. That's a lot. And I wonder if because it's d UI related offenses, but the charges I need to look up what her charges were, like the specific ones, but the charges themselves weren't giving actual like as bad as it was or it.

7:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is what they got the Big Boy one.

7:03 Speaker 2: It's like if this's if you're a true crime girly and the murder podcasts, Yes, and it's like, I mean very much.

7:11 Speaker 1: So then it's like, you know murder too, Yeah.

7:14 Speaker 2: First, okay, we can get you on involuntary manslada though. Yeah, ten years for the same crime. Yes, it's what we can get. And then you look at everybody like that's not enough.

7:25 Speaker 1: Ten years. Did you not hear the same episode I have?

7:28 Speaker 4: Right, Like, you know, listen, they got to go what they can prove. Okay, so they sometimes.

7:33 Speaker 2: Athlete, but I heard that the Jerry also found her guilty on failure to change of address. I'm like, so that carries a prison sentence. That's basically half the country, right, everybody forgets the town, the d n V. You know how hard it is to go there.

7:50 Speaker 3: I have changed states, Are you kidding me?

7:53 Speaker 2: Yes, you gotta go on a weekday, you gotta go during the day. They're never in a nice movie because they're never paid on nothing. And I understand it's not their fault, but I don't love it for them, but that I don't get what I need because they don't get what they need, you know what? And then that's like time I don't have. Who's got time off to go to the d m V either, what I mean, get what I give you? Right, Daron did have many a time. Probably I'm just saying, hell, I mean, it's thirty days to a po.

8:26 Speaker 1: Yes, I don't think she's going to or she should.

8:30 Speaker 3: She should, No, she definitely shouldn't.

8:33 Speaker 4: You've already embarrassed two lawyers at this point leading people alone.

8:36 Speaker 1: Because now self.

8:41 Speaker 2: Ray as president who was a owner, and how you embarrassed him, I don't know.

8:47 Speaker 3: Let me tell you something.

8:48 Speaker 4: If you're if you're gonna go down four times for a d U y, at least she made the last one go out and glory because I mean the car was on fire.

8:57 Speaker 3: She threw up in the car. She was sitting out the officer.

9:01 Speaker 4: She brought up Thomas Jeffer like you hit every note you could for your fourth offense.

9:05 Speaker 3: I mean, if you go do it, do it, if you go do.

9:08 Speaker 1: It with the judge say. She was filled to the brim with all.

9:14 Speaker 3: The gilds you feel the gear? I said, no, I ain't never heard no shit like that. What that means I had to go? And next my mom, I.

9:21 Speaker 2: Said, what means she didn't know she was so drunk and because she failed or she refused a breathalyzer, they only had the video to go off of Karen, and to which I then did. The question remains, if you got that in Discovery, what the hell did you let them take it to the judge?

9:44 Speaker 1: I would have your hona. We worked it out.

9:48 Speaker 2: They were only asking, allegedly for thirty to sixty days in jail, apparently for the plea. Now she's doing a full year when she I had thirty days. What kind of arrogance would have seen that video and thought I'm not gonna do thirty days, boy, and like we need to agree now or the judge is gonna give me thirty years? Oh my god, right, that's what I look like. Oh my god?

10:16 Speaker 1: What the hell?

10:18 Speaker 4: What the last the last nine seasons of the show make more sense than ever now because if you will to do all of that, I'm talking about all of that, Oh baby, then you What can I say about your ego? My favorite lie because this let me tell you something, this judge was reading Caring like a motherfucking book, a magazine.

10:37 Speaker 3: A kindle.

10:38 Speaker 4: My favorite part was when he said that she got one back in two thousand and seven, and you would think she would have learned her lessen But in two thousand and eight, before the ink was dry on the other one, she was arrested again.

10:51 Speaker 2: Another Yes, before the chargers could even finish being like filed and pended and done, she got another offense for the same thing.

11:01 Speaker 1: First of all, why are you even driving?

11:04 Speaker 2: Why why are you like, let me tell you something I've gotten. I swear to god, I've gotten two speeding tickets in my life, like from an officer being pulled over. It was enough for me to like, I almost didn't want to drive again. And it was like I was going like three over and it was the end of the month kind of thing, you know. One time it was me I was the problem, Yes, and I did skate by but the skin of my teeth. But lord, it was a downhill and I hadn't had a coffee yet. I'm sorry, I'm driving safer, but see listen, listen to me.

11:36 Speaker 2: I'm making I'm like I'm sorry, I won't do it again.

11:40 Speaker 1: I don't mean to hurt.

11:40 Speaker 2: Nobody, like sober, just going down a hill too fast, okay, and the cop was like, hey, you better watch it.

11:48 Speaker 1: You're just pull it over. You're drinking, you're driving.

11:52 Speaker 2: The But I like, even as an adult, when I was like twenty one something, started to drink and go out. If I had more than if I if I had shots, it was a no go.

12:04 Speaker 1: If I had even one.

12:05 Speaker 2: Shot, it was like, yeah, there's no reason because no matter how much food I'm gonna eat, it's not gonna you know, go up with like what the you know, the liquor content that I'm doing and what the shots I'm doing because right, fool, I'm a good girl.

12:18 Speaker 1: You know I know what to do. So okay, clear keeps squeer, that's.

12:24 Speaker 3: Where okay, Okay.

12:28 Speaker 2: So I'm just like if I won't even get behind the wheel of my car three four hours after happy hour, like we there at three, I won't at eight, be like okay, someone gotta come get me.

12:39 Speaker 1: Somebody else gotta drive.

12:40 Speaker 2: I'm looking at mile like you driving right because she just drinks lemonade. Her thing is lemonade. Okay, I got a built in was she.

12:49 Speaker 3: Put was she put a flagor to it?

12:51 Speaker 1: Was doing pain?

12:53 Speaker 3: Okay?

12:54 Speaker 1: She wants to know all of them.

12:55 Speaker 2: She wants to know when we go to the outback, she wants to know all the flavors because because you don't know what you're going to move for.

13:01 Speaker 1: Do they all say the same? Yes? But a hits BlackBerry is different than a hint of raspberry okay different? Yes?

13:11 Speaker 2: So yeah, No, she absolutely loves the lemonade, so she intres yes, a strawberry slash pink lemonade.

13:17 Speaker 1: Where yes, So I'm always like if I won't even do that.

13:21 Speaker 2: Because I'm like, oh god, oh god, they're gonna get me. I'm afraid of jail. I'm afraid of hell. I don't want to kill nobody.

13:28 Speaker 1: Look, I don't.

13:31 Speaker 2: Where is the moral compass. I just have a lot of concerns and questions. You've had assistance, you got husbands, you got partial maybe Sidney, and you know me, Okay, you got allegedly a few sets of eyes that could put be put on the road that are not yours.

13:51 Speaker 1: I'm go call one of them.

13:55 Speaker 2: Why is this going on since two thousand and seven, my love, it's been twenty years on most but we're still making this.

14:01 Speaker 4: This is This is why I know Karen answer is crazy because she got mad this season when Ashley gave her them Uber the Uber gift cards, and I'm like, what is it?

14:11 Speaker 3: Love it?

14:13 Speaker 1: I love it?

14:13 Speaker 2: Let us love like, let's get that's a nice thing. Okay, I don't want nice. The fact that just Zelle even threw you a shady party, I think was a.

14:25 Speaker 1: Beautiful thing considering what we know.

14:27 Speaker 2: Now you're lucky you had a job like this is egregious, like that video.

14:33 Speaker 1: We texted when the video came out, and we're.

14:35 Speaker 2: Like, uh right, like.

14:38 Speaker 1: This is bad right?

14:39 Speaker 3: Oh, yes, as.

14:40 Speaker 1: Bad as it is.

14:42 Speaker 2: I said, there's no way she that she knew this was gonna happen. She could not have possibly known this.

14:47 Speaker 3: Money come out. MONI.

14:50 Speaker 4: She was in that passenger seat. The cop got out and came around to open the door for her. When he opened the door, she said, you know, I hate your ass, right? I said, oh that she okay, Okay, see now we yeah, the plot has been long. No oh it's time to go. Yeah, caring this you go do two years? It's okay?

15:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, my love.

15:15 Speaker 3: If she's only.

15:17 Speaker 2: Doing two years, then she should never have a license again. I swear it could be a ten year probation at minimum, Like she should not be allowed to.

15:26 Speaker 1: Have a ten year license reversal.

15:30 Speaker 2: She gotta do classes right, is to get herself reready because the problem has also spanned over almost two decades, so it's giving like a long term learning problem, and I need her to learn. Two years is not going to change ten years of bad behavior.

15:45 Speaker 3: No, two decades of bad behavior.

15:47 Speaker 1: This one good that were filed?

15:51 Speaker 3: Yes, how many times did she.

15:55 Speaker 1: Get home just by the risk of god?

15:57 Speaker 3: Right?

15:58 Speaker 1: How many times was a cop just not out?

16:01 Speaker 3: That's wild?

16:02 Speaker 4: That's wild because ain't nobody talking about four times they drunk driving?

16:07 Speaker 3: And you had to please.

16:10 Speaker 2: It caught all one or whatever times that they drunk driving, then they admit, okay, And even though I'm not that drunk, I'm like, I'm concerned. I don't care how much you drink normally and how strong your liver is. I just so you have four Marguerite, is I need you to pick a different choice?

16:27 Speaker 3: It right to kill us figure some out?

16:30 Speaker 1: Girl? You only eat nachos just like this is girl, so yourself?

16:40 Speaker 4: Can I tell you my favorite part of this please, and I had several, but my my other favorite part, I think I'm on my ninth favorite part now is the fact that her team said that she participated in a forty eight hour Scared Straight program where she went to a jail to experience what it would be like to go to jail. Now, riddle me this, what what does that help? After you've already gone to trial and you've already this man is about to sentence you, Like, what what is that gonna help?

17:14 Speaker 3: And what me as the judge, what is that supposed to tell me?

17:17 Speaker 1: Why didn't her lawyer do that?

17:19 Speaker 2: Like the first Like, hey, so before we go to trial and you reject this plea, I want you to forty eight hour scar strait right, like honestly because it's the same thing. It's like, why are you telling me this now? The same reason like why did you go to rehab quote unquote because we found out some things about that? Yeah, why did you go to rehab? Or the sentencing because for me, I'm like, for I would have thought that at the very least if she had waited until sentencing, if you had to waste the courts time and do all this that they would have given her some kind of recovery option that they would have picked.

17:58 Speaker 2: And I understand that if they had picked it it, No, it would not have been as nice as where you went, But my love, that's kind of the point, right. It's for you to get help and rehabilitation for what's going on, and not for you to be coddled into a detox quote unquote like a sonya more detox like I think she would have gotten like rehab mandatory state mandated rehab facility and classes or something like that, and like four years probation or two years probation or something like that, or in a suspended license, which would have made sense.

18:39 Speaker 2: It only be like six months in jail, which would have made sense. I think it would have been very very fair. Or like if she didn't do the rehab, she would have gone to jail, and I think that right be really fair. But because she took away that opportunity from them, further delayed the court date. The simple thing went, and then they found out that the facility she went to had a like a winery allegedly.

19:04 Speaker 4: Turned down service or they were heated sheets, and my ms ma'am was having a good time, like I feel like that's right. Where is that place in Arizona? What's the place in Arizona everyone goes to vacation. That's like real holistic. What is that place called?

19:21 Speaker 1: Does go there?

19:22 Speaker 4: Not it's in Arizona, but it's outside of Phoenix. What is it Sedona? That's yeah, like that's what we're doing.

19:32 Speaker 3: What are you doing?

19:33 Speaker 1: And it it's just really like it made me. I had a lot of questions.

19:38 Speaker 2: But shout out to our carea host of yes going on podcast because my goodss got up bright and early, and let me tell you, let me not put her.

19:48 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to doct her, but she don't live club.

19:52 Speaker 2: She got on them highways and byways, my loves and she went to that courthouse that morning.

19:57 Speaker 1: She was there, Well did she have something to say? Excuse me?

20:03 Speaker 3: You leave him alone? You leave him alone.

20:06 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm saying thank you so much to my dog who wanted to let the people know that I was recording. But he listened to me do it and say stuff that. But he's a sweet boy, so we're gonna let him pass. So anyways, three was there bright and early, and she gave velosity. She was there cover doing the lord's work. She was inside more than the press was because people were watching the live news press and waiting people to come out. And so Terria and I had a nice little conversation conspiracy.

20:41 Speaker 1: I really want to know your thoughts.

20:43 Speaker 3: Okay.

20:44 Speaker 2: He said that there was a sign. She posted a picture on X Twitter X of a.

20:49 Speaker 1: Sign was giving closed to like the public.

20:56 Speaker 2: And Terria was confused at first because she said she looked online, you know public.

21:01 Speaker 1: It was. The information was out.

21:03 Speaker 2: There and it didn't mention that it was gonna be closed, which it could it would have.

21:07 Speaker 4: The girl Ray stopped at the kink Ohs and printed Okay.

21:10 Speaker 2: It was like, I wonder if someone looked from the team put that sign there because a clerk or something came out and said, it's not closed.

21:21 Speaker 1: Listen, I don't even know why that's there. It's not closed.

21:24 Speaker 3: It ain't no better.

21:24 Speaker 4: I love in this world more than messic courthouse fish. Okay, listen podcast, she's gonna tell it all.

21:32 Speaker 3: B she gonna sit in there.

21:33 Speaker 4: Look, you ain't hear this from me, but yeah, they tried to close it off good. They said they didn't want just to get embarrassed because you know, she just got the little facelift to do that video for the reunion. Then she ain't even go to the shit go tell all Karen beingness. I can't wait. The only thing better than that is one of the jurors that'll tell you why they voted the way they voted. It's a lot of mess going on. I believe that was right. Ray was like, I don't know how I can contribute to this because my license ain't good either, So I'm gonna print out the sign.

21:59 Speaker 4: We still got a print Let me print this sign out. People won't come in. It'll be okay. You just don't know their courtous ain't going for that.

22:06 Speaker 2: I just wonder, like, does rage drive I don't think. I don't think he does, in which I'm wondering how he gets around, and.

22:14 Speaker 3: Because he had that dinner with Gordon or that lunch.

22:17 Speaker 2: Right so Olbing two and in which case I'm just like, I just have a lot of questions about how Kieren got herself into this situation unless it's a control thing, you know, and to which I.

22:30 Speaker 1: Say, this is why it is sad.

22:33 Speaker 2: Though I know that she deserves this kind of punishment, and it is important that she gets, you know, the wake up call that.

22:40 Speaker 1: She needs and then hopefully the help that she needs.

22:44 Speaker 2: I know the prosecutors were asking originally for like AA twice per week, a suspended sentence, three years probation, and to make therapy a condition. The judge said quickly, nah, he said, it's you know for me, y' That's so if you thought hard her privileged ass as Thomas Jefferson's concubine and being very rich, can you get when she get out of prison, it's next case for me?

23:15 Speaker 1: And so they didn't get that.

23:17 Speaker 2: But it just is like, this is what makes it sad because all the things that we love about a housewife is kind of the reasons why their downfalls happened too in the real world, because you're not characters like Taran Huger, the grand dom, that kind of delusion, that kind of self importance, that kind of ego that has on the show that we're like, oh my god, Karen stand I love, oh my God, like she sold She, you know, Wendy, like all of them. We love them because they are like that. There's like an inherent a little bit of like no so parts, a little self inflation, delusion, things that are like normally are harmless but fun to watch on TV.

23:54 Speaker 2: But every once in a while, people get you a Jen Sharlick will Land one, you know what I mean, everyone once in a while. Well Atlanta Karen, who apparently has been doing this for decades, like, why are you like this in two thousand and seven and you are, Then you can't necessarily say then that this is because of the grief of your parents.

24:13 Speaker 1: No, because that's no.

24:15 Speaker 2: It could give you if it was all for recently, but like, we can understand, but it's giving like you have impulse control issues and that's something else, and that means that, but you also are not willing, apparently to hear that, and that's problematic because how are we supposed to offer help to you if you're insisting you don't need help. All season long, she insisted that she did nothing wrong and everyone and talk about it, but we know very matter of factly you did do something wrong.

24:49 Speaker 1: Feel to the gindos, feel to the gills.

24:55 Speaker 4: Let me tell you, Karen, it's always This is a hard one because the people that do like the most mess on camera right usually tend to be the least problematic behind the scenes, and that's what's crazy. Like Jiselle, we can see a thousand things about like a Jasell, a Kenya, all these like on screen villains, but like the courts don't really follow them like that. They're like, oh, no, you're fine, you don't do much. But all the people that we kind of see is, oh my god, this is the unspoken hero.

25:25 Speaker 4: This is you know, this person would never do anything like that. Wait, what was Shannon doing? Archie was in the car?

25:32 Speaker 3: What happened? Wait what Karen? She was in a deer what?

25:36 Speaker 4: It'd be a lot going on, And I just need people to I don't know, just always if you're a Housewives fan at this point, you need to know to always be prepared to have your heart broken by your fab Okay, it's going to happen at some point, don't know one's poke.

25:50 Speaker 2: And that's the thing is I'm hearing a lot of people be like, why do y'all feel bad for White?

25:54 Speaker 1: I don't feel bad for Caring.

25:56 Speaker 2: It's sad to see this be the outcome, like an outcome of someone that we have enjoyed watching. Yeah, you know that this was a condition of enjoying a housewife. You know what I mean, you know that she's been a danger out there in society, and it's not help is she needs and has a problem knowing that she needs that help and not listen.

26:21 Speaker 4: Not only that, it's also like I mean, for other people now, I mean, okay, for a lot of people that watch this show, they will know that since the beginning, three or four cast members in particular, have been trying to beat down our throats that y'all, this isn't a game. This lady really does have a problem. Everybody around town knows that. Everybody knows she they talk about it, they call her the drunk old lady. They do this, and they're like, this is a real problem. We've been trying to tell y'all for years and everybody's like.

26:52 Speaker 3: Nah, y'all just some haters.

26:53 Speaker 4: We don't like y'all no way, and they just because they are the villains on the show, nobody cares.

26:58 Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, it's just it's.

27:00 Speaker 4: Eye opening sometimes. Listen, if enough people say some stuff. I'm not saying we need to believe it. I'm just saying I'm be like in the future because I don't want to I don't want to get you know, I don't want to wake up at two in the morning, because some reading the news tend to break at.

27:13 Speaker 3: Two between two and four in the morning, always like this, Wait a minute, why did I wake up to use the bathroom at four this morning?

27:21 Speaker 4: And Jane Hackman and his wife and the dog. I was like, wait what.

27:25 Speaker 1: And the the evidence child.

27:28 Speaker 2: Is not good. I'm very concerned, confused. Where is this documentary? I know we're not gonna get it for a while. They just found out, but like something's a mess.

27:39 Speaker 4: That's not unless it comes out on two b It'll be out tomorrow, okay, because to we don't wait to find out no information. They're like, are y'all what y'all want? Y'all y'all want the recent teas, the story? Oh give us the next Friday we have. We're like, we damn all around.

27:53 Speaker 2: We got you right, Okay, they got the They have the persistence of like a scammer on the telephone.

28:03 Speaker 4: Okay, the ones you sends Okay, one of gin Shaw's I'm sorry.

28:11 Speaker 3: We're a steward, you know what. Let me stop at Okay.

28:15 Speaker 2: I'm about to say, you know that's it, but listen, speaking of atonement, I mean bless your soul, care and I hope you learning. And what's going on? Do you think she comes back? I am, I don't know if I feel like she doesn't necessarily quote unquote like deserve to come back. I'm hearing a lot of she doesn't deserve to come back.

28:42 Speaker 1: First of all.

28:44 Speaker 3: No, we've had too many returning criminals, too many mm hmm. Guys, I think I'm in here alone.

29:02 Speaker 1: I just, y'all. I think Elon is out to get me. I don't know.

29:09 Speaker 2: I don't know if I can say too much or if it's even okay for me to say that right now, but like the Apple products are just not Apple producting, and so literally the recording just we just had a brief moment of silence. You know, we took a little break yet, and so that's fine. We love to see it. We're here and we're back now. And during our time apart, Kendrick, you participated and you part took in a nice viewing of the Ruby Frank documentary, and I love. All you told me was I'm watching this documentary about this Mormon abusive mom.

29:49 Speaker 1: And I said, not Ruby Frank.

29:51 Speaker 3: That's all I needed.

29:52 Speaker 1: I said, I know that I know that data.

29:55 Speaker 4: Yes, I remember this story breaking, but it was not one of you know, when it comes to true crime, I have my stories I follow, but then the other ones I just wait through the documentary come out. Okay, this was one of them. I saw the story, I'm like, oh, the Mormon's crazy. You know sometime they do what they and I just moved on. Now you know, it was headline on Hulu, so I said, okay, let me let me partake.

30:15 Speaker 3: I'm two episodes in and whoa.

30:19 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I went back and forth with whether or not I was gonna watch this documentary because I've listened to two podcasts and seemed like two special kind of Oh okay, so I'm familiar with the story and she's a piece of shit, like and hands down some of the things that I remember hearing, and I'm like, there's what okay, yeah, abuse is like we we there could be a stronger.

30:52 Speaker 1: Word for what.

30:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, being left alone for days just crazy stuff, absolutely crazy and hell for that to try for you. Did you see what I told you about her that she doesn't want to admit to herself.

31:06 Speaker 3: Yes, oh oh most certainly. Yes.

31:09 Speaker 1: Also, it's very much.

31:10 Speaker 2: So a lesbian I have nothing to support that other than the documentary.

31:16 Speaker 3: The way that.

31:16 Speaker 1: Lady was behaving with that other lady.

31:18 Speaker 3: Like miss miss Jody miss okay.

31:24 Speaker 1: Does miss Jody over everything? Oh yes, oh yeah here very.

31:28 Speaker 2: Weird and that husband is just giving. Everybody is not doing well over there. But it's a it's a good it's an interesting story. It's one of the work like worst, one of the excuse me not again, sir, please do it a ghatto show. I don't like it, he said, this is blacks mother. I will ask how I want to Okay, that's right. He also hears his other mom leaving with out him to go and pick up some food. Okay, young, but I'm glad to be here. But wow, wow, shady disrespectful traders. Okay, oh my god, are you also?

32:14 Speaker 2: Are you watching Traders?

32:17 Speaker 3: Of course?

32:18 Speaker 2: And yes, oh my goodness, it is quite It's probably one of the more delicious things that I'm watching during my week as well.

32:27 Speaker 1: It's that in the Potomac Reunion, I'm gonna be really sad with you. I really am.

32:33 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm bean.

32:34 Speaker 4: I've been luxuriating and Potoma I've watched both parts multiple times now just because I'm like I want some fun to watch them on the Potomac Reunion.

32:41 Speaker 2: Oh wow, I've wanted to now watch each part now more than once, and not because I was going to record it.

32:51 Speaker 1: I didn't take no and take notes because I was like, that was good.

32:55 Speaker 2: Like when I told about it, I was like, hey, you it was really good.

32:59 Speaker 1: You gotta watch it. And she was like, oh my god, you watched it all. Me was like yes, ma'am, like can't wait for you. And she watched it and.

33:07 Speaker 2: I was excited to watch it again. I saw new things. It was so good. God, I think that was where we were before you know, the Apple products.

33:16 Speaker 1: Apple producted on me. Do you see Karen coming back?

33:21 Speaker 2: Do you think that she is that we're beyond that she should not come back, she doesn't deserve to come back, or you said that we have had too many.

33:29 Speaker 1: Of those for that. So do we have a show should she come back?

33:33 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think.

33:36 Speaker 4: First of all, yes, this is Karen's fourth DUI like, my god, my god, but we have had other like Teresa went and did her year b it, she came out, she got back on the show to it was yeah, fourth, do you wi?

33:52 Speaker 1: But was do you? Oh?

33:54 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, and that.

33:58 Speaker 4: Man.

33:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah.

34:02 Speaker 4: My favorite of them all. Shannon tried to run the man's daughter over. Like we've seen some stuff.

34:06 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know, it's stuff funny, We seen some stuff.

34:10 Speaker 1: I've still before running into that man's house.

34:14 Speaker 3: Like it's not funny, but also.

34:17 Speaker 2: Okay because like why just the dogs in the car and I don't like that?

34:21 Speaker 4: Like listen, Shannon for me, Shannon must really felt like that ship was over because you know how mad you got to be the family be like, you know what fucking man his daughter? Let me see, oh bitch, go there, let me hold on, let me so you know she's living out all of our dream Okay, all y'all know your your significant other got a family member that right now, you can get in the car and try to hit the ass you would it. I'm just saying that's listen, we all got that.

34:45 Speaker 2: Man only suit her for what seventy five thousand dollars for like a loon or something.

34:52 Speaker 1: That's crazy. You know what you're really mad about trying to run over my daughter.

34:56 Speaker 3: Right and now you stuck with a LYNX. Look at you trying to be paid.

35:01 Speaker 2: You have a choice storyline to fund this lawsuit and Alexis sorry to get on that show, and they were like, no, we're gonna be We're gonna have to hold it down with Shannon.

35:12 Speaker 3: You know, that's her career.

35:16 Speaker 1: How did you let yeah, how did you let them call you like that? Again?

35:19 Speaker 2: Lexi pu like, how did you cony you like that? This is Malibu Country all over again?

35:24 Speaker 1: Or whatever? Okay, it's giving wake Up Malibu or o C the deoc compiracy.

35:33 Speaker 2: Now they're choosing Gretchen, and Gretchen is now a back girly and that's interesting.

35:39 Speaker 4: I mean, listen, Alexis is one thing I think might start some fights this. I think Tampa might swing on somebody this season. It might just happen, and I'm interested.

35:48 Speaker 3: To see it.

35:51 Speaker 1: Watching.

35:51 Speaker 2: Yes, I did see a world where Karen comes back, honestly, because I just think she owes it to Yes, he owes it to the past.

35:58 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna out of you.

36:01 Speaker 2: I think she owes it to the cast, and they this exact cast for this year and the next year and fantastic cast. They will do well without her, That's not the point. I actually think she just owes it to them because she gas lit the shit out of them the entire time and of us, and I would like a word.

36:20 Speaker 4: Okay, as they say on Baddies, I need that, like.

36:26 Speaker 2: I need that, I need Like when she's done Giselle, who she thinks is like her new like, you know, she's really been shocked that Gizelle is like a good human.

36:35 Speaker 1: I'm not. I've I've always thought there was a.

36:38 Speaker 2: Reason that I like Gazelle Messi is all hell. But her and Karen have always had this thing, this bond. They've known each other since well before the show. They will know each other well after the show, And she didn't want to see someone that she's known for so long, that's been in her life for so long in one way or another, go out like that, like, you know, especially as a mom of having just children in regardless the young or old, like that's something that you don't want to have to put your kids through, Like that would be you or you would think, you know, but you would also hope like Karen, like I don't feel bad for her, and I don't think Gizelle does either.

37:13 Speaker 1: And I think that's the important.

37:15 Speaker 2: Part, is that she's not excusing the behavior she's by supporting, you know, her emotionally and making sure she's okay, Like, but she is, like it is not okay that you are concerned about your kids now, but you're concerned about your kids to not do these things. I set this example, not in danger someone else's child by being on the road, because one thing about Montgomery County is somebody's on the.

37:45 Speaker 3: Road, yes, all the time.

37:48 Speaker 1: It is literally wins for deadlock.

37:50 Speaker 4: Like don't don't y'all have a new like I don't know if it's not prosecutor, like governor or somebody just like ran a whole platform on oh bis we go crack down on driving, Oh my god.

38:01 Speaker 2: And it's crazy because also so much of Montgomery County is like at the speed limit, especially around where Karen lives is thirty five that ass oh so the to get pulled over, you're doing numbers gally like I I can't fire, so like I want to know in some places where she was going, Like I really want to know where she was pulled over, and I might have the time. I'm like, you know, have a visit with happy yetty one day and you take a little look see through the Mntgomery County Circuit Court documents, right and and I think that when I do that, I'm going to also see the where the speed limits are.

38:50 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that it's in like that there's like nowhere in all of Moco that doesn't that goes above forty five. That's that's just the fact unless you're on my highway, like there they're out and there's.

39:05 Speaker 1: Camera, Like I'm just very confused, like.

39:07 Speaker 2: Where are you because I know I'm driving around those parts because I'm like, no, the girls will you will get a ticket.

39:14 Speaker 4: That's like, listen, you can. The people drive however the here they want to in Memphis, when you cross over into bartlets you better slaughter damn car down down ship looking after you.

39:27 Speaker 2: They will will ignorant.

39:31 Speaker 1: So don't do that exactly in a Maserati.

39:34 Speaker 2: First of all, why I've always like there's like a joke that me and my wife have when we drive, especially around but that's the like rock Fille but Tomake area, Like what's the purpose of the sports cars really with them? Because me and my Santa fe have a hard time. We can we are pressing fifty, You're right.

40:00 Speaker 1: T five, Like what are you doing? Don't call me? I don't I don't want it.

40:05 Speaker 2: I don't want that thing, and they be quick to send you a picture of you doing it too, like it's you.

40:10 Speaker 4: You know what what, you just really clocked some shit for me, Because now it makes so much sense as to why I see like Karen Staider for driving a Maserati.

40:21 Speaker 3: It makes so much sense why Gizille.

40:23 Speaker 4: Let that man hype up to drive that little bit of as Gucci car that season because he probably don't know nothing about it. On a good day, it's not going over forty five.

40:32 Speaker 1: He doesn't need to.

40:33 Speaker 4: You don't need to, So it makes that's a practical ask. You know what Jamal out for her that season, Okay.

40:39 Speaker 2: Yes, And the governor I think is also trying to like crack down on that speed limit. He's like they're enforcing it. That's same thirty five and under in all major roads in two other big cities that have like the most amount of traffic either. Truly, my least favorite place is to be are some of these cities. Like I think it does the way to passion because I can't go more than thirty five for about twenty minutes no matter where I'm going, no more than thirty five, And I simply can't and everybody nobody knows how to do that together in a bigger city with a lot of congestion, They're like, how do we all go thirty five?

41:19 Speaker 1: No one's ever gonna get anywhere, but.

41:21 Speaker 2: Everyone wants to go somewhere, so they're very rude about it. So like, how are you going fifty plus to get pulled over?

41:29 Speaker 1: Failure? What was it? It was failure to control speed in like a residential area. How so okay, what in the hell is that? So like, I think she owes the girl's an apology.

41:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe that looks like a special Maybe that looks like her coming back.

41:54 Speaker 3: I'm see.

41:54 Speaker 4: I honestly, I think if she doesn't come back, it'll be because she's over reality now Bravo.

42:01 Speaker 3: I think will.

42:01 Speaker 1: Absolutely support herself.

42:04 Speaker 4: That I don't know, because I think I think her ego is very bruised by autist. Because Karen, in her mind is the perfect person.

42:11 Speaker 1: So then let it be, like, let it write.

42:13 Speaker 2: I think she should just be humbled a little bit and like I'm back do a season. Let them clown you, let them play the music every time you get an uber, let them show you standing on the curb out front of your house waiting for us. I would like to see it. I want to see it a little bit. I want to see that you've learned your lesson. You're not gonna do it no more, and you understand why you should not be in the car. And if you're lucky, if you're smart, caring, if you're good about a brand, you will lead into that in a couple of years and be like, oh.

42:45 Speaker 1: Child, don't put me behind the wheel.

42:47 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know how to control myself exactly, ma'am.

42:50 Speaker 1: Oh that liquor, you know how I get. I can't do that.

42:54 Speaker 2: Make a joke about at your expense, like I ain't trying to go back to the clink cling.

42:57 Speaker 4: Okay, right, okay, I'm caring that I'm caring now.

43:03 Speaker 3: I don't want to grind down to come out.

43:05 Speaker 1: Don't care enough for caring? Thank you? Lean in.

43:13 Speaker 4: Yes, you're you're married to the black Bill Gates. According to you, you should have a driver. Like why we see enough house while I was getting driven everywhere. I'm actually shocked that you want to drive yourself places like that's wild to me.

43:27 Speaker 2: That impulse control thing is wild. There's just something bigger growing on there. And I think that the lawyer, this new one knows that, and that's why I wanted to make therapy a condition of like her release. I think the judge is just pissed off that, like she did all this and took this loan, and that's you know, it is what it is.

43:45 Speaker 1: So and I think that you know what's gonna hurt her the most.

43:49 Speaker 2: And I think one of the reasons why she will come back and take us into the reunion, like she will have to see likely on the inside of jail, the show do well without her, Yes, like as much as we love her, and she knows that she is loved and lovable like she at the very least, she's watching a reunion where she was and could have been and should be the main topic of discussion. But honey, we moved past you in the first ten They put you in the opening credits. Oh goodness, they put her interview pre showing us them getting dressed and dolled up and sitting down.

44:30 Speaker 1: Okay, not know for a fact Karen was at home.

44:33 Speaker 4: And I know she's gotta be pissed off because those those first two parts of Reunion were good as hell, And I know She was like, hell, it's gonna flop without me.

44:42 Speaker 3: They not gonna know what to do. They gonna want me to Yeah, baby, she.

44:47 Speaker 2: Thought her delusion was, you know, problematic in QTS, but like, you know, like actually tumultuous in the real world.

44:56 Speaker 1: But then enter Mia this second part.

44:58 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Mia got beat the fuck up.

45:01 Speaker 2: Ya gotta first of all, we need to finish this this ass whooping by the ladies.

45:05 Speaker 1: And we do. That's the thought and made.

45:10 Speaker 2: And who was it Karen or something from Minnesota who asked that, lady, why did you go from blazoness to fashion Nova? You on a business job and now you wear fashion Nova? And your answer of I used to have a business job and now I don't doesn't explain why you're wearing Fashion Nova, doesn't. It doesn't. And it makes no difference that.

45:30 Speaker 4: Real Housewives is different, baby, it's different now. It's that See. That was gonna be one of my points because we both have been watching Housewives for a long time. I don't know if it's because it's Potomac or what it is, but the questions they are picking at these reunions nowadays are some of the shadiest I've ever heard, because why would you ask that later that? And why would more importantly, why would Kiana get that damn tickled? Because it tickled me how hard she was laughing at this ship.

45:58 Speaker 4: She was like, yeah, she do be working a lot of fashion. No, when the girls just don't say nothing, they just let her show up, they don't.

46:04 Speaker 1: Care, absolutely nuts.

46:07 Speaker 4: That is so crazy, And honestly, you know why, I've kind of figured out why they didn't say nothing, mostly because half the cast really I ain't got much room to talk about fastship.

46:18 Speaker 2: So you know, none of the cast has any not a one, not a one or two or three, name me one go.

46:26 Speaker 4: The only one I might say is Wendy. But then she lost it with that blue dress because that was still.

46:31 Speaker 2: I can think of eight reasons why that's also not you know, because she tried.

46:36 Speaker 1: To almost every confessional this season.

46:38 Speaker 3: I hate every confessional person.

46:40 Speaker 1: I had real concerns about our choices this season.

46:43 Speaker 3: I hate everyone which looks so.

46:46 Speaker 1: Good, so good.

46:49 Speaker 2: I'm like Wendy, yes, feeling it as a housewife right now.

46:54 Speaker 1: I love Wendy.

46:58 Speaker 4: She she goes to show you though I always say, people like will give a housewife like six les to only God, fire her, get her off, do this and that, And I'm like, sometimes a housewife truly does need time to bloom. At least give a housewife you'll have somebody sign on the dotted line unless they like it comes out that they raise this or something like that. Give them two seasons at least to develop because a lot of people are too damn nervous or like Kiana, I think this is so so shady to say, but Karen going to jail for two years really is the best thing that ever happened to you, because now you can get to come back next season, like cause the first baby, if she was coming back, you was gonna be fired like it wasn't there was no reason to really keep you like that.

47:40 Speaker 4: But we're not going to shake it up that much now that we've lost a main player on the show.

47:48 Speaker 2: It also, I think we're pissed off the fan base because as much as we want to see Karen be heard accountable for this to replace that spot or something, feel that spot so quickly, but also imply how it replaceable, she was and aske And just because we.

48:02 Speaker 1: Can get along with get on without.

48:04 Speaker 2: Her, doesn't mean some random girl he can just come up in here and make it just as interesting because she could ruin the plot.

48:12 Speaker 1: Enter Mia Judo child.

48:15 Speaker 3: I was Okay, So in your mind.

48:17 Speaker 2: A lot of concerns right now, like I'm got a lot going on. You gotta go, that's a given.

48:23 Speaker 4: But in my mind, go, uh, in my mind, I'm wondering you next season. Okay, so these six come back? Well, you know, I know you go, you go, putting me at a funk off of her. But let's say these six.

48:38 Speaker 2: I think, like friend, I would love to see that kind of thirst be translated in a different.

48:45 Speaker 1: Less dangerous way.

48:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, both the right for her to put her children through this. At some point, someone's gotta say, Yeah, if she wants to be, you know, in thirsty, that's fine, but don't put the children through this.

48:55 Speaker 1: It's giving. She shouldn't have that right. You can't give her too much.

48:59 Speaker 3: Yes, because if you go come back, I need one I need.

49:02 Speaker 4: Ain't gone. He doesn't need to be in the picture. And if you go do this with Gordon, just show us a healthy co parenting relationship and then we need to meet another side of me at this point, because Hendrick, I mean like I need, I need to see the hell drop the kids because y'all need to move out the damn house together.

49:19 Speaker 3: Y'all demand of sters get in another building.

49:22 Speaker 2: Like it's not like the finalization of her divorce or anything.

49:28 Speaker 3: Divorced.

49:29 Speaker 2: Okay, so it's giving just show us we separated for some time or whatever.

49:37 Speaker 1: You couldn't deal with his bipolar and being broke. That's real.

49:41 Speaker 3: I ain't gonna hold that's a lie.

49:43 Speaker 2: During this current situation. I understand the concerns and why we're doing fashion ov deals.

49:50 Speaker 1: We have to do it.

49:50 Speaker 2: We have to do the job, but not at the expense of our children. We need to be reflective.

49:54 Speaker 1: Okay.

49:55 Speaker 4: Listen, A told y'all they put in the shady ass question. When I get on y'all website that GNA, I don't see nothing on her except Jaseah posing and closed. Ashley told y'all she said, well, look, I'm going through divorce. I ain't had the money, so we ain't even doing that kind of shit in the more we community outreach now, okay, baby, we'll be better off doing food drives and shit than uh and trying to seal some clothes. And you know what, I respect it because we knew y'all didn't have it in the first place.

50:21 Speaker 4: So I mean, let's just let's move forward. We don't have to treat each other like we're stupid. Let's just let's move forward and you know, with.

50:26 Speaker 1: Respect, with respect.

50:29 Speaker 2: Like, I have so many problems, Like the first and the only thing that I really wrote down was we gotta get me out of here.

50:38 Speaker 1: But I was so stressed.

50:39 Speaker 2: I think I stressed texted you and a couple other people kaya and I was like, we gotta get me out out of here. Well, I don't know what to do. We've let her go too far. It's all unraveling so badly. Yeah, Like, and it's not even fun to watch because her just running away crying. It doesn't it doesn't do anything. I heard Courtney shout out to Courtney from two judge girls who gave the option of like she should be fine, Like you should be fined like a thousand dollars or something every time you leave to go to your dressing room because you can't handle the heat.

51:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not enough to just be fined if you don't come, like not get.

51:21 Speaker 1: Your half your check.

51:22 Speaker 2: You should also be fine if you leave because you can't handle it. You made the entire season about the paternity of a son that.

51:35 Speaker 1: You had via IVF.

51:38 Speaker 2: With your husband, but you had a storyline about there being a possibility that that same IVF born son with your husband's deliberate firm. Yes, injected deliberately into your deliberate body. Yes, somehow you could be pregnant by another man.

52:06 Speaker 1: And you put us through that.

52:08 Speaker 3: And two men you know what this was.

52:11 Speaker 1: They has to be in on it.

52:12 Speaker 2: If they're not putting their head out on you or restrained in order of something. Truly, if they're not, it is not suing you for intentional infliction of emotional distress.

52:22 Speaker 1: I have to believe they're all in on it. I'm concerned.

52:24 Speaker 4: Oh they are, oh for sure. And the cast clocked it. This is this whole paternity you know IVF journey. This is truly the way less fun version of what would you do?

52:36 Speaker 1: Date?

52:40 Speaker 3: Honey? It was July, but it was how many minutes?

52:44 Speaker 1: Now? Girl, it's we're celebrating Mother's Day, right, What are you talking about?

52:50 Speaker 3: Day?

52:51 Speaker 1: What you're talking about?

52:54 Speaker 2: It's doing July and you're saying in May Brother's Day that they can come any day now, I have problem.

53:01 Speaker 3: Excuse me?

53:02 Speaker 1: What?

53:03 Speaker 4: One of my favorite parts of that scene so underrated? What is Cynthia trying to rationalize their things? She said, so you really more like five months?

53:14 Speaker 3: That baby said, child, I don't know what I am?

53:17 Speaker 1: What? Excuse me?

53:21 Speaker 2: What? My favorite part when I thought you were gonna say, but I guess it's Borius.

53:26 Speaker 1: And me is when Nini goes Doro, shut up you are sometime.

53:32 Speaker 3: Because right before I don't know who their.

53:35 Speaker 1: Baby daddies are, and they know when they got pregnant.

53:38 Speaker 3: It was exactly.

53:41 Speaker 2: It does not know exactly when the baby's supposed to come out of them, insane like this baby's supposed to be out by now?

53:50 Speaker 1: Uh huh abouteen days, four.

53:52 Speaker 2: Minutes second twenty one, twenty two.

53:59 Speaker 3: Listen, these doctors don't play with y'all. Ass no more.

54:02 Speaker 4: These doctors like wait a minute, hell long, let's go and induce you. Come in tomorrow around six o'clock. We're just gonna pull them out, like damn, we don't we gotta do yeah, like now I'm going to vacations. Let's just let's get him out Like.

54:14 Speaker 1: What like oh no, wait, what you know? How did you not know?

54:19 Speaker 2: Like you intentionally went through pregnancy with a man that you were married to, and it just is like giving what kind of diabolical person, manipulative person, person has the goal to at one point in your life have a deliberate baby via IVF with a man you were married to that I thought at least you may have loved enough to create a child with. I would hope that it is not strictly a gold digger gold mine relationship of the time, you know what I'm saying, especially miss boss lady business woman, own shit wearing blazers.

55:00 Speaker 1: Ah ah boom boom.

55:01 Speaker 4: You know, like.

55:04 Speaker 2: Without if we're gonna do that, then I'm thinking it's because you also loved him a little bit maybe something I.

55:12 Speaker 1: Guess.

55:12 Speaker 2: Maybe it's just like me and like you know, little key hi key, that'll can be the first no wants to start a feeling.

55:20 Speaker 1: With my wife.

55:21 Speaker 2: We're just like looking and talking and trying to understand the ideas of what to do and what that like and all of that. And as someone it's because we love each other, you know.

55:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm reflecting.

55:39 Speaker 2: And I'm just like it like low key breaks my heart and you would take that away from this man like the idea of like I did this together because you at least like each other enough to have a child, raise a son, and then others to be like then now to devalue it to be like, actually, I don't know whose it is? When you know whose it is, like what are you talking about?

56:00 Speaker 3: Insane?

56:01 Speaker 4: And they try to see the reason I compared it to the whole Fath situation was Mia tried to argue with a cast of mothers up and down about name you could be pregnant when you.

56:11 Speaker 1: Do what what?

56:14 Speaker 2: They do a blood test first and foremost they have to literally check all the levels before they implant anything. Like my I was lucky enough to be a pregnancy partner for someone that is very close to me, and the entire time I was there as they were a surrogate for a beautiful trans couple who they wanted to have a baby so fucking bad. And I think if you want to have a child, it should go to children and people who really fucking want them.

56:43 Speaker 1: And they are with this child.

56:45 Speaker 2: They absolutely love this child, but she was the vehicle to, you know, help them start and create that family.

56:51 Speaker 1: They literally have to check.

56:52 Speaker 2: The levels of your ability to get pregnant before they They're not gonna waste that thing. It's not like they got plenty in the in the car. It's not like actual eggs. Like what are you talking about, right, girl? They have to test it to see the hCG and all the things, and if they come back a certain you're pregnant.

57:13 Speaker 3: Oh my god, right, isn't not like wild?

57:16 Speaker 2: Mom had to sue somebody like like, like, what are you talking about?

57:20 Speaker 3: Like you you they know.

57:22 Speaker 2: They're like no, girl, Like literally, the blood test is done upon arrival when you go into the O, B G Y N.

57:28 Speaker 1: Essentially, you could walk in and they be like.

57:29 Speaker 2: Hey, girl, let's just check off your breaks right before we even have a conversation about whatever you get.

57:36 Speaker 3: We don't even want to waste your time. Okay, wait, let's.

57:40 Speaker 2: Just see what's going on, like like what you're talking about? I just it really was a less fun version of Phasier, although the favorite thing is also wild and diabolical.

57:50 Speaker 4: Oh so wild, Like seeing seeing those children full grown is actually wild as hell nowadays to.

57:58 Speaker 2: See this, and I'm like, I'm okay, a little worried about the Prince and the president over there seeing their mama, lie about you know, like.

58:08 Speaker 1: A problem that they were born out of love. Up.

58:11 Speaker 2: I do believe that they she loved the Ballow like they were her relationship. It doesn't, you know, take away anything. It's not that serious, essentially, I get it. It's her culture's who she is or whatever, but like it's not that serious. But Nia, I'm really worried about this kid seeing this, Like I'm really concerned. And I had a real big issue I took as an educator.

58:35 Speaker 1: I have parents email me like when a.

58:38 Speaker 2: Spouse has moved out of the house or when a major change has happened, and a right all the time, right, because it's gonna deeply affect their performance in school, their ability to focus, their ability to self regulate, emotionally regulate, like communicate with others. Like it's a lot. And to hear that she addressed separate reading with Gordon for the first time the divorce on camera about like I choked mad for the teachers. I mean, she says private homeschool, which I have problems, but I have a lot of questions about that.

59:16 Speaker 1: Where do you live?

59:17 Speaker 2: Girl'lled in school is what it's giving.

59:22 Speaker 1: Like it is and I need to know what the.

59:25 Speaker 2: Truancy laws are in Georgia because it's given truancy. Okay, but then she writes, didn't she say that she lives or she's back in the d n.

59:36 Speaker 1: V because of a court orders?

59:39 Speaker 3: Listen, what is your lives? I don't, I don't know what. But if it's a.

59:44 Speaker 2: Court order, is it that you that whatever is going on? Gordon said you can't take my kids away.

59:50 Speaker 4: That's immediately what came to my mind my father saying I have rights to to which.

59:55 Speaker 2: I respect and I think I would fight for yeah, like I would shout out. I always am like, y'all gonna stop doing this to fathers and coursing to stop acting like fathers are not parents that they're capable of willing to then and the child can't have access to a capable parent to love and care for that child. It should be as many as freaking possible. That's because they man, because like, I can't imagine what them children are going through. One having to see this at some point here this friends or I mean, they have.

1:00:32 Speaker 1: To be an extracurriculars.

1:00:34 Speaker 2: I highly doubt that someone who's as vain as Mia is like keeping her kids out of any kind of social activities. She wants to be seen and do stuff, you know what I mean? So like, what are they hearing, what are they seeing, what are they saying?

1:00:49 Speaker 1: Who do they talk to?

1:00:50 Speaker 2: And then if not, why don't they I need them to have some friends or something. After just hearing on camera in front of mister Jim and the camera that my mom and dad are breaking up and they're like, no, they were visceral and.

1:01:04 Speaker 4: No she didn't just say no, she said no, and don't marry mister ink. Oh so what so the feeling's coming out. So this tells me because we've heard a lot about Gordon. One thing, you've never told us that he was a bad father. So you just open taking those kids to Georgia. A judge is going to sign off on bringing them back. So I don't know, doesn't at all.

1:01:26 Speaker 1: And he's been like the soul provider.

1:01:28 Speaker 2: And I understand you have businesses and things, but like, but that's also a reason why I judge wouldn't just say you can snatch him, because if you are building this together, you don't say he's just not a fit father when he was such a fit one for the last however many.

1:01:40 Speaker 1: Years, right, It makes sense like I have some.

1:01:43 Speaker 2: Concerns about that, but also don't marry mister Ink. Why does she say to us Ink is someone who will be in my life forever? I'm like, why, I really have questions about that. Like my answer, my question really is why it's not you.

1:01:58 Speaker 1: We confirmed he's not.

1:01:59 Speaker 2: A fire of your child your What is it? What did she say that she's telling them the fathers of my children should get along.

1:02:06 Speaker 1: He's not one of those. So what is he here?

1:02:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not.

1:02:10 Speaker 2: Wasn't he like a high school or some college boyfriend?

1:02:14 Speaker 4: So they be flashing back to them old pezitim in prom and Mia looks the exact me, uh, let me not Meah, just you got me a figure it out, figure that ship out. I don't know if I wanted she even go like make part three or if she's gone gone because no, I'm probably like, Okay, well you go get a third of the damn check then, because you're not getting you're not getting all of this.

1:02:37 Speaker 1: Something tells me that the.

1:02:41 Speaker 2: Will kick in a little bit and will you won't see the end of Mia. She just needs a minute to go collect herself, come up with a new reason why she's fucked up how much she should pop to so that she can say that she's also the victim and and scared around having to take account of Billy for anything specifically.

1:03:05 Speaker 1: Gonna be the rule. You know, I'm going through a lot.

1:03:09 Speaker 2: Gordon's thing has really like any stress, and she's gonna, you know, deflect.

1:03:12 Speaker 1: We're gonna see that. So listen.

1:03:16 Speaker 2: I called Carrey going to jail, so I'm real I would love to see I did. I said it. I said it. I'm sure I said it to you. We were talking about.

1:03:24 Speaker 4: Yes, we were too. We were not me and you. We were never Yeah, the wool was never of our eves. One thing about it.

1:03:32 Speaker 3: We watched it.

1:03:33 Speaker 1: We texted each other like.

1:03:37 Speaker 2: That's as it looks, right, Yeah, it's given like thirteen out of ten bad?

1:03:42 Speaker 3: Like we text like did she did she mention the president? Like what's happening?

1:03:47 Speaker 1: Like what's going on? Why would you want to be that one?

1:03:50 Speaker 3: Like I'm very.

1:03:53 Speaker 4: Karen being the allegation you're talking about Thomas Jeffson and you had that whole little spin off about a plantation or baby figure out.

1:04:01 Speaker 1: It's giving weird, giving weird and don't like to watch? Okay, you gotta watch. It's very weird. I don't know, Karen.

1:04:12 Speaker 2: Listen, we're doing great over there on Potomac Throw without her because we don't know what the text is. But let me tell you well what I know. Okay has clocked in, and her business partner, mister Eddiejosepo has also clocked in, and I think he is deserving of a little CHECKI poo. I think that he is a a joeju Day, but a nice one, like a good one, nice black version.

1:04:44 Speaker 4: I thought you were comparing to Joe Gorga. I got so nervous. I'm a god no.

1:04:50 Speaker 2: But I think that he is a really good husband one, a nice man. But he is clocked in and he does the job on screen as well, and he knows how to support.

1:05:04 Speaker 1: His wife through getting that bag.

1:05:07 Speaker 2: And I likely he said miss Mama's aka babe. We just got on a FaceTime with TJ because we expected him to be here, us being silly men Ooh, imagine our surprise when he started telling us blahbady blad whatever it is.

1:05:26 Speaker 1: It's something we don't already know.

1:05:28 Speaker 2: That Stacey tried to hide from us by telling her well, by only telling Andy that her and TJ are not together.

1:05:36 Speaker 2: But what do you think it is that they were never together or that what is it?

1:05:41 Speaker 3: What do you think?

1:05:42 Speaker 4: So I know the prevailing theory is that it's a Kenya Walster type situation.

1:05:47 Speaker 3: I'm hoping it is.

1:05:48 Speaker 1: Very weird to be your boyfriend. I'm sorry.

1:05:51 Speaker 4: I mean we've seen him were more blouses than her, but anyway.

1:05:54 Speaker 1: Okay, and he was if so get your money back?

1:05:58 Speaker 4: He didn't, right he oh he baby, he barely picked up you know, well, let me stop.

1:06:03 Speaker 3: Okay.

1:06:06 Speaker 4: I think I'm hoping what he's gonna say, because if this is what it is, go Stacey, I'm hoping he says no. The whole time we were together, she had me thinking that she was waiting for me and we were gonna be celebrated together, and she was actually out there doing our thing the whole time, to which we all go clap like yay.

1:06:24 Speaker 1: Yeah.

1:06:27 Speaker 3: So that's what I'm hoping for. That's what I'm hoping for.

1:06:29 Speaker 1: When what the hell you.

1:06:31 Speaker 2: Was talking about by being celebate with this man unless you plan on marrying him? And she was like, ope, I don't have to wait as long as mary him. I'm sorry, you want to marry him. Now what going on down child? Not don't you get alimony? Or is your cleaning up not good?

1:06:48 Speaker 1: Like? What is it?

1:06:50 Speaker 3: Right? Do you know? For me?

1:06:52 Speaker 4: The thing what I can appreciate about miss TJ is that he took time from the devastat wildfires in LA to still come and be messing with the girls. I said, you know what, you gotta respect it. He clocked in. He clocked in to give Eddie whatever tea he gave him. That man's house was actively on fire, and he said, don't worry. I got a job to do. And he came to do that job. Not to be a straight man, but he came to, you know, do whatever job she paid him for.

1:07:20 Speaker 1: I guess yup and did.

1:07:22 Speaker 2: And I want to know what it is because whatever it is, it's something that Wendy is like, mm.

1:07:26 Speaker 1: Hmmm, I got it and it doesn't matter. It could be tiny.

1:07:30 Speaker 2: I just wanted to be like it could be like you broke up with TJ that day before the reunion, like it was.

1:07:36 Speaker 1: Something I don't right. I just wanted to be something.

1:07:38 Speaker 2: Of like why were you? I need you to know to not be that desperate. You actually enough, But what we didn't have a good time watching sometimes even fast forward. And that's my truth through her awkwardly talking to TJ through like trying to like it was weird, like they would have weird.

1:08:02 Speaker 1: Conversation and best my best friend, he's the best friends.

1:08:10 Speaker 2: Is that your way of saying, like, I'm not really paying them to my boyfriend because I'm not paying him, he's doing me a favor.

1:08:16 Speaker 1: Is that why he's being mean to you?

1:08:17 Speaker 2: Because you're not getting to check like what is it?

1:08:22 Speaker 1: And it's because what is it?

1:08:23 Speaker 2: It's because like her ex husband soon to be like won't film well, I wouldn't expect him to. Was that a condition? Like I'm right, why did you feel like you needed to do this? Is really my concern? Like you don't want to talk about your ex husband, you can sutton that thing, like.

1:08:36 Speaker 1: We can do the research and we can talk about.

1:08:39 Speaker 2: How you're worried about, you know, your space and society and all the things, like I get it. Sure, Like he's the VP of Audi. That's cute, Like Okay, if you see a fancy Audi out there, we'll be like, oh, maybe say this to husband, but like it's not it's I'm not gonna hunt you down.

1:08:57 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hunt you on your children. We just know you do not force.

1:09:00 Speaker 2: It with this man who was very rude to you in that Jim studio place.

1:09:05 Speaker 4: And that beautiful black sister came in that room as a lawyer, and she really tried to talk some sense in the Stacey ass, and Stacy Ass just wouldn't hear it. She just said, no, I know he'll take care of his child. I just need alimony. Oh okay, you see, I'd like to introduce you to man because apparently you've never met one before.

1:09:24 Speaker 1: Okay.

1:09:25 Speaker 2: But also then it begs the question, then why would you want to even marry TJ so fast or to even think about it, like enter into relationship to the point where like we're celibate until marriage, and I hope we wouldn't have to wait and tell marriage.

1:09:38 Speaker 1: What would make you.

1:09:39 Speaker 2: Say that unless you plan on waiting that long. So it's just weird because you would then not get alimony anymore.

1:09:48 Speaker 1: I'm pretty positive if you then get married, right, give it up.

1:09:54 Speaker 2: If you're so concerned about not getting money from this making.

1:09:59 Speaker 1: She's crazy. I don't understand it early. I need you to do better.

1:10:02 Speaker 2: But I'm glad that, you know, she says her daughter is adjusting fine. I took good how she approached this whole going through a divorce thing and on camera and we know, but her child didn't.

1:10:15 Speaker 1: That was weird.

1:10:16 Speaker 2: I don't think that people should do that. I really don't your kids no more than you think, which is again, why me, I'm looking at you?

1:10:23 Speaker 1: What are you doing right? I mean, like a lot of questions. Part three is gonna slap.

1:10:34 Speaker 3: Bring edie out out out.

1:10:38 Speaker 1: They're about they should be picking up cameras pretty soon.

1:10:44 Speaker 3: Already. And she said I cried for camera a girl.

1:10:52 Speaker 2: We say, you know a couple of times, and Giselle saying the same thing.

1:10:58 Speaker 1: You know, she's.

1:10:59 Speaker 2: Spoken out and she's been like, you know, I'm really saying, I just pray that she's okay and.

1:11:04 Speaker 3: That kids are okay later week, I know that.

1:11:10 Speaker 2: Should I just you know, I really hope that they let her keep her beat. Thank you to our girls. She texted me specifically and told me that Karen had looked good money.

1:11:19 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, yeah, she said, I knowed.

1:11:22 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, get home.

1:11:24 Speaker 2: I have a lot of questions, like, I know, we deserve her to come back and give us will tell her when to go right exactly.

1:11:36 Speaker 1: H m hmm.

1:11:38 Speaker 2: Okay, before I let you go, your thoughts on Traders, Miss Danielle, some hate, some love. I don't have issue yet, and I need someone to convince me why I should, because all I see is someone who's playing the game and letting that you know, unhind lady walk herself into her own traps. I just someone be like, hey, here's my idea and be like, no, I don't trust you, all right.

1:12:11 Speaker 3: No, right, listen. Unfortunately I can't be that person.

1:12:15 Speaker 4: I've been very vocal this week that at this point now, look, I've given Danielle a lot, okay, because they had and those braids have truly gotten on my last nerve.

1:12:26 Speaker 2: So these choices and decisions literally up until like these last episode and a half have been yes.

1:12:32 Speaker 4: They are yes, and Boston Rob Binger didn't help anything. So but as a big Brother fan, I can't help but to root for her, like my girl should have won her season. She did not win it. They voted against her. There was some assholes. She If she wins this, I'm gonna be a happy boy. I'm not gonna lie to y'all. I'm okay with the win. I'm okay with the win. There's three people I'll be okay with if they win. That's gonna be Danielle, it's gonna be misguided, and it's gonna be because bachelor. Like I'm gonna be okay with that.

1:13:05 Speaker 2: I will be okay. I actually will be okay with all three of those. The thing I won't be okay with is if one. It will be hard if Brittany ever becomes trader. But even if she doesn't, if it's true that Danielle broke her DA and told Brittany allegedly that she was a trader, then that is cheating.

1:13:28 Speaker 1: She should not win. That is my only reason why she shouldn't get the dub.

1:13:33 Speaker 2: Otherwise, y'all hate that lady for reasons I will not explain, because you already know what Tomeddy is. They know because you're not gonna tell me that. It's not just that Carolyn's also on. She's not okay to be in this environment. She wasn't having a good time being a trader. She said that it was stressful to be a trader. She could not even trust the traders around her or outplay them like that is my whole gag, like it was Trader on Trader action and it had been you had no issue with Boston Rob doing this to Bob the drag Queen.

1:14:03 Speaker 2: But yeah, Carolyn being gotten out by Danielle is like what when Bob pretty much called that man that you know what I'm saying, okay, please all, but called Bob the drag queen okay, everything but to God and said you can go. I will not do it with you myself on the sword unless it means I have to work with you. So what's that serious? What's that serious?

1:14:32 Speaker 1: I was like, oh.

1:14:34 Speaker 2: Wow, okay, so Bob bow out, okay, And but now Carolyn walked herself into I heard her say Tom's name five times. I counted one, two, three, four, five, Yep, she said it five times.

1:14:46 Speaker 1: She said what about Tom? Wait? Didn't someone say Tom?

1:14:49 Speaker 2: And then she managed to construct a vote for an imaginary second option of Tom that no one else nominated but her.

1:14:59 Speaker 1: So how many? I wanna said? Girl?

1:15:01 Speaker 2: Oh, it's bad at those times Danielle, because she felt like she was set up.

1:15:07 Speaker 1: What was she supposed to tell you?

1:15:09 Speaker 4: No? Stop what you made all the decisions on your own. It was time for you to roll sis. I'm sorry be mad at Dylan because he voted for you.

1:15:17 Speaker 1: But you got it right three times, and Dylan clocked it. Dylan clock a trader.

1:15:22 Speaker 2: It's not Danielle's job to keep you from being clocked as a trader.

1:15:26 Speaker 3: Right.

1:15:27 Speaker 2: Why at the same time, all going at each other, exposing each other as traders practically by being traded on trader in the in the thing.

1:15:35 Speaker 1: So what why did she.

1:15:36 Speaker 2: Owe you that loyalty? You say you didn't trust her? Okay, you got told me once, okay, right, And she's that mad because daniel didn't try to earn her trust, but she said she's supposed to be trying to earn my trust back.

1:15:48 Speaker 1: Why?

1:15:49 Speaker 3: Right?

1:15:51 Speaker 1: For what? Nan like I just like y'all don't.

1:15:54 Speaker 2: Watch Survivor in his shows. It's duplicitess over there.

1:15:57 Speaker 4: Oh, they don't know nothing about competition, reality living.

1:16:02 Speaker 1: It's serious out there on the on them islands.

1:16:05 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, whether it's survival or dealing no deal okay.

1:16:09 Speaker 2: Okay, or challenge or whatever, you know, when people gotta you know, swing from ship, be hungry, hot and mosquito bit Okay, and hungry emphasis, it's giving your herd.

1:16:25 Speaker 1: Okay, they deal what they got.

1:16:29 Speaker 2: That they pretty much like they are filming completely like in the when they're in the dark, they're in the dark. They're literally like playing games of survival, have nowhere to sleep on rocks in the dark, pitch black, trying to be like I'm just trying to get out of here, and I gotta get thirty eight days and only on day twenty three, I need you to absolutely whatever the fuck I'm telling you.

1:16:51 Speaker 3: And that's a bad at that part.

1:16:54 Speaker 1: Part it is life or freaking death over your bitch.

1:16:59 Speaker 2: And then it's like tomorrow if I get whatever shield, I get some Italian food, some motherfucking.

1:17:07 Speaker 3: Gonna do the same thing.

1:17:08 Speaker 2: She is letting them gonna get that bag. Carolyn was right, like four times.

1:17:13 Speaker 1: That's your bag.

1:17:15 Speaker 4: Them people don't survive used to be so godamn happy to get the offer of having McDonald's, Like, like, what are y'all thinking, Like Danielle is doing supposed to do with?

1:17:23 Speaker 3: Is she okay?

1:17:25 Speaker 4: The theatrics, yes, they over the top, but guess what them people, they are apparently not suspicious because they're letting my asks right every week.

1:17:32 Speaker 2: So it's working for like a crying I remember I wrote down the crying on the floor, like the fall into the ground when Carolyn gets out is absolutely too much, and I was like, oh, they get a stand up.

1:17:46 Speaker 1: Girl, right, girl, right, we didn't need all that. But okay, listen, it's it's good over there.

1:17:55 Speaker 2: I don't know who I would if it's not Danielle that wins. I would only want also Dylan or Gave to win. I don't really see anybody else that I could see it for.

1:18:08 Speaker 1: I have it.

1:18:09 Speaker 2: I take issue with Tom standing of or even being here this long as well.

1:18:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate it. I've done this.

1:18:17 Speaker 4: Why Lord Mount baddeness still there. It's a lot of weird choices in there.

1:18:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've done this before, like with the stand of all thing like him being like quote unquote not actually but like charming to the effect of having some points or being silly, goofy, or having something to say that it's not completely annoying or ridiculous that I'm just like, why am I even listening to you?

1:18:42 Speaker 1: I don't want you here.

1:18:43 Speaker 2: You've wasted my time for half of the season being over there and spotty with the different the greasy hair, and the spotty sweat things like I don't really want to do it with you, so just I don't know why he's here, and he's making it very far. You know, It's it's hard with who we have left. So it's giving Dylan or Gabby for me as well.

1:19:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be it for me.

1:19:07 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna keep watching because you know, Alan and these outfits are everything to me.

1:19:12 Speaker 4: Listen, I got the new episode. Thumbnail is up right now and he's serving already. So giving it to the girls.

1:19:19 Speaker 1: Listen, giving it to the girls. I can't wait.

1:19:22 Speaker 2: They're saying that Reunion's gonna drop the same day as the season.

1:19:25 Speaker 3: And I love that they do that. Yes, they do it every time, and I loved it.

1:19:28 Speaker 2: It's very wise, it's very powerful, it's very good. I love that for us. So do you last thing?

1:19:36 Speaker 1: Do you care?

1:19:37 Speaker 2: What do you think about them being like what Daniel was swearing on her kids or on her grandkids?

1:19:43 Speaker 4: I mean, eighty fourth time I've seen it, but I mean, I don't do it. But it's the eighty fourth time I've seen it on competition.

1:19:51 Speaker 2: That's the that's the first time that's happened on Traders alone.

1:19:55 Speaker 4: Right, No, that's every competition. So baby, y'all, y'all got to watch the other ship. Y'all got the watch. Maybe it's like.

1:20:01 Speaker 2: Are they fighting this hard though, because like this spoiler, she win question mark question mark?

1:20:06 Speaker 1: I know not like you're trying to.

1:20:09 Speaker 2: Like dis and smirch already, like we ain't even get to it yet, and you're already like taking up everyone's banded together, like she doesn't deserve this, deserve what right?

1:20:22 Speaker 3: Right?

1:20:23 Speaker 2: And yet oh she did was get killing the fun out of here, which was Carolyn was sure to get her the fuck out of here.

1:20:30 Speaker 1: It was a duel. Y'all ain't seen hammers.

1:20:33 Speaker 4: And if they if somebody swears on their grandkids, why the hell would you believe him anyway? Like it's the Traders, that's the name of the game. Like everything she's done because she's.

1:20:43 Speaker 2: A tray you as a faithful because you would believe some ship like I swear on my grandkids, right, saylash ship, good for you, But here you get god like girl. Money is on the line, y'allly see Seren, what is it? I don't understand, Like you don't like her hat say.

1:21:01 Speaker 3: That right either?

1:21:03 Speaker 2: But it doesn't mean she's not playing this game now, right decisions. I need her to step it up.

1:21:08 Speaker 4: And here we are, and listen, last season, like Pilot, Pete was making sure he made moves every single weed and all this kind of stuff. I mean, listen, Danielle is the only one playing any kind of game right now. So love it or hated, she's doing what hell she came there to do. So yes, bout down from Queen.

1:21:25 Speaker 3: When you see you.

1:21:25 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm like again, y'all, don't watch Survivor and it shows they're duplicitiss over there.

1:21:32 Speaker 1: They just a real treacherous things.

1:21:34 Speaker 2: To each other, and them tribals the council, right, somebody will be talking to Jeff and missing just they conspiring behind him to get this man out right. Actually, we don't like when he said get him out of here. I'm like, whoa to each other exactly. So I'm just like, it's really giving. TV is going to be real good. I miss the Potomac gurlies and I miss Karen r I p all, but.

1:22:01 Speaker 1: Give it to us, you know I need it right now.

1:22:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a lot to discuss with Stacey and Eddie. Bring Eddie out.

1:22:11 Speaker 3: Bringed, bring Eddie out.

1:22:13 Speaker 2: Okay, and Stacey, please don't do Stacey, Stacey and do that to Wendy.

1:22:16 Speaker 1: They will sue you and I would support that.

1:22:18 Speaker 4: So yeah, I kind of want that beef next season. I won't Okay, Okay, me.

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