Champagne Clink, Balloon w/ Kara Berry (Everyone's Business but Mine)

0:16 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologists out there.

0:29 Speaker 2: It is your girl Mony. We think she fitted herself

0:32 Speaker 2: together minute by minute, second a second. I'm still dipping

0:35 Speaker 2: myself up right now to become a full function human. Y'all.

0:40 Speaker 2: It has been a week all bad news, no good news,

0:45 Speaker 2: But for me, I decided to take control of my

0:49 Speaker 2: destiny and my future. And by doing so, did I

0:53 Speaker 2: make a life change? Your career change? Not intentionally?

0:57 Speaker 3: Did I eat healthier?

0:58 Speaker 2: No?

0:59 Speaker 3: Did I make any like personal growth?

1:01 Speaker 2: Not really? But what I did do was reach out

1:05 Speaker 2: and touch somebody that I knew would helped me celebrate

1:09 Speaker 2: the rest of Black History Month, make me feel better,

1:12 Speaker 2: and help me get through the brain rot that I

1:16 Speaker 2: of TV that I have purposely dove into to escape

1:21 Speaker 2: all of my problems and the rest of the world's problems,

1:23 Speaker 2: because y'all got a lot of them. And that person

1:26 Speaker 2: is Karen Berry, host of Everyone's Business put mine that

1:29 Speaker 2: she is here to help me turn around this week

1:32 Speaker 2: for us all because she is just like that. Karen,

1:35 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming high.

1:38 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.

1:39 Speaker 5: It's always such a less to you, and I'm I'm

1:42 Speaker 5: especially Yeah, We're winding down on probably the last Black

1:45 Speaker 5: History months.

1:45 Speaker 2: So let's get me let's celebrate exactly if they go

1:49 Speaker 2: out little bang. Literally, that was what I decided. That

1:53 Speaker 2: was really for mental health purposes. I was taking you

1:56 Speaker 2: this Blackcastry month off, not even because I wanted to.

1:58 Speaker 2: It's just that I've been dealing with so much in

2:00 Speaker 2: a week. I'm like, wow, I've been trying to get

2:03 Speaker 2: through all of these major life changes.

2:05 Speaker 3: I can't even like focus on TV. It's been another

2:08 Speaker 3: week already.

2:09 Speaker 2: But then as it was, it told something, told me,

2:12 Speaker 2: you may never get this opportunity again to talk with

2:14 Speaker 2: your friends, celebrate black people things.

2:16 Speaker 3: Speak freely even no, So let's why we can.

2:21 Speaker 2: Let's reach out, let's see if we can have it all.

2:25 Speaker 2: And I literally I reached out to Kara and Kendrick

2:28 Speaker 2: like on the same day, and Kendrick is coming on

2:30 Speaker 2: next week y'all.

2:31 Speaker 3: So I was like, we need to end it with

2:33 Speaker 3: a bang.

2:34 Speaker 2: I need some joy. We need to you know, still

2:38 Speaker 2: celebrate us. We still need to have, you know, the

2:41 Speaker 2: carve out our little section of peace and h like

2:45 Speaker 2: WUSA a little bit. It's hard, but we're gonna try.

2:49 Speaker 2: Oh we are.

2:51 Speaker 3: Then it snows. Has it been randomly snowing where you

2:54 Speaker 3: are because you're in.

2:55 Speaker 5: New York, right, Yeah, it's yeah, like a couple for

2:59 Speaker 5: a couple of hours yesterday, and I was like feeling

3:02 Speaker 5: emotions because I really am like leading up to that snow,

3:06 Speaker 5: it had been so cold and windy, yes, and I

3:10 Speaker 5: can't do the wind.

3:11 Speaker 2: I can't do it, so it was crazy.

3:14 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I was like over the snow.

3:17 Speaker 5: But also I'm feeling a little bit nostalgic because I

3:19 Speaker 5: do think this might be the last one I'm good with,

3:22 Speaker 5: like the first one and the last one, you know.

3:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, same.

3:26 Speaker 2: I am like very much so once, you know, as

3:29 Speaker 2: an educator, two or three snow days, I'm like, once

3:33 Speaker 2: I hit my like okay, two timess like yang. Then

3:36 Speaker 2: after that time it just sticks around too long. It

3:38 Speaker 2: like cowing up in places and it doesn't need to be.

3:41 Speaker 2: It gets dirty and ugly, it fucks up my car.

3:43 Speaker 2: Pay I don't like that. Adults eat it at the

3:46 Speaker 2: time you stop like it's like it's a long, a fresh,

3:50 Speaker 2: fluffy white thing. But it has been so cool here

3:53 Speaker 2: too in the DNV that it's like randomly somebody will

3:56 Speaker 2: randomly will text each other and be like, oh, it's

3:58 Speaker 2: snow one here in Maryland or Virginia or and he said, yep, me,

4:01 Speaker 2: I got little flakes, got big ones like, oh, must

4:03 Speaker 2: be coming to you next, Like give me stop if

4:08 Speaker 2: it should be we go to maybe forty degrees, we

4:11 Speaker 2: can go up a little bit.

4:12 Speaker 4: Just a cute forty forty five, I'll.

4:14 Speaker 2: Be happy with five. Would be adorable sweat shirt.

4:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, a sunny forty five.

4:21 Speaker 2: Look, I will go outside. I'll work. I'm doing it,

4:23 Speaker 2: I'll go. I'm saying I hold motivation by the sun

4:28 Speaker 2: and the non frigid temperatures.

4:30 Speaker 3: Like I walked my dog last night.

4:31 Speaker 2: Swear to God, my wife that's so married me because

4:33 Speaker 2: my heads were so swollen because I went out without

4:35 Speaker 2: gloves and my like I could not feel it at.

4:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so cold that it hurt to the bone.

4:42 Speaker 4: And then it went like no, yep, yep, I have.

4:48 Speaker 2: I had to like put it on skin so that

4:50 Speaker 2: it can renfigure itself as a body part.

4:54 Speaker 5: I am dog sitting for a dog that I've been

4:56 Speaker 5: sitting for eleven years. He's like my own son. He's

4:59 Speaker 5: my angel. But this boy, he will find every pissy

5:03 Speaker 5: pile of snow, and he's like so interested in it,

5:07 Speaker 5: and he'll sit there and I'm all for enrichment and

5:10 Speaker 5: checking on the femail and whatnot.

5:12 Speaker 4: Do what you gotta do.

5:14 Speaker 5: But when, like you said, when I can't feel my

5:17 Speaker 5: pinky and I can't bend it, we gotta go.

5:19 Speaker 4: It's over.

5:20 Speaker 2: We gotta go.

5:21 Speaker 3: I can't pick them ship.

5:22 Speaker 2: I can't do help you if you run't away, I

5:24 Speaker 2: can't hold my head is a crossing, right, and to

5:29 Speaker 2: which I'm hearing people probably really meanly.

5:32 Speaker 6: But tell me so my wife is in a kinder

5:35 Speaker 6: way in my head going. And that's why we were gloves,

5:38 Speaker 6: my love, That's why I wear gloves. I'm like, I know,

5:41 Speaker 6: but I never think I'm going to be out there

5:43 Speaker 6: that long. I never think it's going to be bad.

5:45 Speaker 6: But I forget every time, every.

5:47 Speaker 5: Time, and then I hit the ten minute mark and

5:49 Speaker 5: I'm like, well, I wonder where those go?

5:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like, actually, you know what, it has

5:55 Speaker 2: been a cute tin only one number two for you. Well,

5:58 Speaker 2: then that's it.

6:00 Speaker 3: We'll try to tomorrow.

6:04 Speaker 2: I decided that that's no longer back for my doll,

6:06 Speaker 2: because when it's raining, he goes on our poop straight.

6:09 Speaker 2: He will not, like go outside for twenty four hours,

6:12 Speaker 2: Like he doesn't want to do it because he's a

6:14 Speaker 2: Boden doodle and he doesn't want to wear a wet

6:16 Speaker 2: coat all his life. And I get that. Yeah, so

6:19 Speaker 2: I'm like, if you can wait twenty four hours, then

6:21 Speaker 2: when it's too cold, Mom's gonna go back and sack

6:24 Speaker 2: and we'll try again tomorrow.

6:26 Speaker 3: Hello, but you didn't want to do it again, you

6:29 Speaker 3: will do it again, not just when you want to.

6:31 Speaker 3: And he's fine with that.

6:32 Speaker 2: He also doesn't win.

6:33 Speaker 3: The wind blows his hair. He hates it.

6:38 Speaker 2: If y'all VOT rules are out there, they are human beings.

6:41 Speaker 2: They are real people with real emotions, very big ones.

6:47 Speaker 2: So we were just talking offline about how I wish

6:51 Speaker 2: that I did the reverse watching of Beverly Hills first

6:54 Speaker 2: and then the Potomac Reunion, because when catching up, I

6:58 Speaker 2: did Potomac Reunion because I was excited to have joy,

7:02 Speaker 2: and then I did Beverly Hills because I have a

7:04 Speaker 2: job to do here and and I realized that that

7:08 Speaker 2: was the wrong order and it showed because I was

7:11 Speaker 2: so bored for Beverly Hills and like not stimulated and

7:15 Speaker 2: yet Potama gave me everything, so I'm not going to

7:17 Speaker 2: make that same mistake twice. And We're going to Beverly

7:21 Speaker 2: Hills first, and you can get that out of the

7:24 Speaker 2: way so we can dive into Pottonma. Let me tell

7:27 Speaker 2: you the notes I have on Potomac. Wow, everyone deserves

7:35 Speaker 2: everyone deserves a race. Everyone or except for maybe Jazzy

7:41 Speaker 2: because I want her. I like her thirsty. We should

7:43 Speaker 2: just let that go.

7:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thank you number six to Andy, Thank you guys.

7:55 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, we gotta keep her work for it.

7:59 Speaker 3: I like exactly, So let's stuff in the Beverly Hills first,

8:04 Speaker 3: because I.

8:05 Speaker 2: Feel like if I did watch it first, it wouldn't

8:06 Speaker 2: be it wouldn't have been as terrible of an episode.

8:10 Speaker 3: It just felt much more produced, like their conversation.

8:14 Speaker 2: It felt much more strained than the simple, familiar, friendly,

8:19 Speaker 2: shady mess.

8:20 Speaker 3: That was happening on Potomac, where it was like much

8:22 Speaker 3: more cohesive.

8:23 Speaker 2: So it felt real. So do we stand Chatty?

8:29 Speaker 4: She had Yeah, she's a mad girl.

8:35 Speaker 2: Why did she feel this party? I really need to

8:37 Speaker 2: start there. I don't think you should have done it.

8:40 Speaker 4: I don't thank Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's clunky.

8:44 Speaker 4: The whole thing is clunky.

8:45 Speaker 5: Because I feel like I don't expect to read to

8:48 Speaker 5: host anything, so it doesn't really make sense, Like it

8:53 Speaker 5: always feels like a little odd, like has she hosted

8:56 Speaker 5: a vacation or anything.

8:59 Speaker 3: Not.

9:00 Speaker 2: I don't think she has. I think it's almost always

9:02 Speaker 2: been Kyle. Yeah, it's She's like and then like you know, Garcela,

9:07 Speaker 2: we go to her beach houses and so.

9:10 Speaker 3: That's practically yeah exactly, and she wants.

9:14 Speaker 2: It to be and I love that for her. She's

9:15 Speaker 2: so happy about her house and I think it's so cute.

9:18 Speaker 2: But no, which is crazy because didn't they read like

9:21 Speaker 2: start out judging Teddy because she was not a good host,

9:24 Speaker 2: like that was the first her season, like all a

9:27 Speaker 2: log because she was serving champagne in the wrong glass

9:31 Speaker 2: and I expected to be in the proper glass. And

9:35 Speaker 2: then when she did host something that same season, she

9:38 Speaker 2: shaded Teddy like, hey, look it sh did champagne flew?

9:43 Speaker 2: And it just suck out to me. And Satan was

9:46 Speaker 2: walking through her hall her fourier like not even knock

9:50 Speaker 2: on time. She was like, you know, if the party

9:52 Speaker 2: started at once, something was there like one fifteen and

9:55 Speaker 2: she's like hello, hello, anybody anything, We're like, am I

10:02 Speaker 2: am I in the right place?

10:04 Speaker 4: And yeah, the other thing that was the other thing

10:07 Speaker 4: that was weird is that it was like two separate parties.

10:09 Speaker 5: Like there was her, like Dury's real friends were in

10:11 Speaker 5: the background or the whole thing, and then the HIGs

10:14 Speaker 5: housewives are like over there fighting and cussing with each other.

10:17 Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, like, hey, y'all, I'm doing work

10:21 Speaker 2: from him. You know, we're gonna have that. I'm gonna

10:24 Speaker 2: be working over there. Mommy's doing her meeting over there

10:27 Speaker 2: with her coworkers. And then when that's done and they

10:30 Speaker 2: got sufficient footage. Maybe that's also why Durit came in

10:33 Speaker 2: so hot, like not to jump around, Like maybe that's

10:35 Speaker 2: why she was like, let's get these fights started so

10:38 Speaker 2: that they have enough to edit and then I can

10:40 Speaker 2: get to my life.

10:42 Speaker 4: We can get to the fireworks by sis, I can

10:43 Speaker 4: get the kids in there.

10:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll look at the kids in that by eight

10:47 Speaker 2: and then it'll be perfect. And to be honest, I

10:51 Speaker 2: kind of get it. Efficiency is t thy for sure.

10:54 Speaker 2: She's a single mother.

10:55 Speaker 3: You know, she's gotta do what she's gotta do.

10:58 Speaker 2: She got to clock in and clock right, and that's

11:02 Speaker 2: exactly what they spelt, like a clocket. When she was

11:04 Speaker 2: still getting ready for work and everybody showed up and

11:07 Speaker 2: she wasn't done yet, and she was like, okay, I'm here,

11:11 Speaker 2: and then she was like, oh, it's the two I

11:12 Speaker 2: don't like the most. So the first time there were

11:16 Speaker 2: Sutton in Kyle, and instantly I was like when something

11:18 Speaker 2: walked in first, I said, oh no, that's a bad

11:21 Speaker 2: first one.

11:22 Speaker 3: And then when Kyle walked in, I said, oh no,

11:25 Speaker 3: the the worst one. This is the best.

11:31 Speaker 2: And Kyle also came in high and was like, you're

11:35 Speaker 2: worse than me. Why do you have to try a PK?

11:38 Speaker 4: I mean questions that need answers, But also we're a

11:41 Speaker 4: on the great footing.

11:42 Speaker 2: So maybe you could be a little gingler about that

11:47 Speaker 2: or something A good friend would have just you know,

11:51 Speaker 2: put them all down. I don't say anything whatever happened,

11:59 Speaker 2: like a little guests who just knock them all, like

12:03 Speaker 2: all the pictures down. Someone's gonna lift them up and go,

12:05 Speaker 2: oh okay, Like okay, so she that's the most well,

12:13 Speaker 2: the red she's mad aboth sudden and Kyle, so coming

12:16 Speaker 2: down to see them kind of upset her, and it's

12:20 Speaker 2: crazy because she said out to Kyle first, which I

12:23 Speaker 2: don't think I expected, and genuinely left Sutton sitting on

12:27 Speaker 2: the arm of her.

12:28 Speaker 4: Celf like two times, like blamed her for real, for.

12:32 Speaker 2: Real, and then it's like, okay, hey, Sutton, how are

12:37 Speaker 2: you doing? And she's like, yeah, thanks for having me.

12:41 Speaker 2: It's something she said like almost automatically. She didn't even

12:45 Speaker 2: want Suddon there, and Sutton did not want to be there.

12:47 Speaker 2: They very much kept talking to the producers like it

12:50 Speaker 2: was like very poor wall breaking, but like adjacent of

12:54 Speaker 2: being like so can I go home now? Yes?

12:58 Speaker 3: Okay, now guess what?

12:59 Speaker 2: Yess not?

13:00 Speaker 3: I asked a cut like they're genuinely like what is

13:03 Speaker 3: my quota of time here?

13:04 Speaker 2: So I felt bad for Sudden because it felt like

13:09 Speaker 2: she did not want to be there and she was

13:11 Speaker 2: in and for all the reasons why we we were

13:13 Speaker 2: seeing the reasons why.

13:15 Speaker 3: It wasn't good, but she was being not well treated

13:19 Speaker 3: and it was a little shady.

13:21 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the kind of like they're both I see

13:24 Speaker 4: both sides.

13:24 Speaker 5: Like Sudden came in with her armor up and Derry

13:28 Speaker 5: could have said something even like half as shady as

13:31 Speaker 5: what she said about the liquor and the watermelon drink

13:34 Speaker 5: and someton would have been ready to go, you know.

13:36 Speaker 2: But yeah, it could have been nice to her, especially

13:41 Speaker 2: because Sutton, you know, once she didn't get greeted. I

13:46 Speaker 2: think because she was already her guard was up. She

13:48 Speaker 2: was sitting there anxious waiting for Dere to come downstairs

13:52 Speaker 2: or where she was coming from, you know, jerk come

13:55 Speaker 2: and she didn't say y to her. So now she

13:56 Speaker 2: has the prolonged, that waiting of a that have waited

14:00 Speaker 2: awkward moment of saying hello to her on camera, and

14:03 Speaker 2: then when it finally does happen, then they go and

14:06 Speaker 2: sit down, ourself comes in. They're just making small top

14:11 Speaker 2: I genuinely came up. Felt like it was coming out

14:14 Speaker 2: of left field, which is why it felt like Dait

14:16 Speaker 2: just clocked in. But she just put the card in

14:19 Speaker 2: there because she's like, are you asking sting this alcohol

14:23 Speaker 2: in her drink? Alcohol in her drink and something like

14:30 Speaker 2: you're a bitch, and what you thought some people.

14:36 Speaker 3: Calling someone a bitch in their home.

14:39 Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, I had never thought about it until

14:41 Speaker 5: they had brought up that specific rule, like twelve times

14:45 Speaker 5: later like, if.

14:45 Speaker 4: Somebody calls me ya home, I'm.

14:49 Speaker 5: Because nobody's gonna call me a bitch in my home.

14:51 Speaker 5: So I don't even know how to answer that. I yeah,

14:55 Speaker 5: I mean you shouldn't. I wouldn't be very upset about that.

15:00 Speaker 2: If I were. You A good idea. But but what

15:04 Speaker 2: if they are?

15:05 Speaker 3: Why what would have been I guess.

15:08 Speaker 2: An appropriate reaction? I guess just anything but calling me

15:11 Speaker 2: a bitch? It just felt like I think Suton had

15:15 Speaker 2: had it up to here, because it wasn't even specifically

15:18 Speaker 2: that the comment made her feel like shamed or insecure

15:22 Speaker 2: or upset, like, you know, she's not even being defensive

15:25 Speaker 2: about the alcoholism thing or having an alcohol problem. It's

15:28 Speaker 2: the fact that.

15:29 Speaker 3: Dark was late to greet her. You know, someone probably

15:31 Speaker 3: told her that something was there, you know that.

15:34 Speaker 2: But she was like, Okay, finding my body changed more important.

15:38 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do that, and tossled the just like you

15:40 Speaker 2: know betwas, and where's my hat? Okay? Thanks? And then

15:44 Speaker 2: Sauntra's down the stairs says how to her once best friend,

15:48 Speaker 2: and then it's like, okay.

15:49 Speaker 3: You're here, so glad you could tell like Ark was

15:52 Speaker 3: being a bitch for sure.

15:54 Speaker 2: Got nice at all, and then to sit down in

15:57 Speaker 2: front of people and be like you're asking, really asking

16:00 Speaker 2: whether or not her drink has alcohol in it. It's sudden, like, damn,

16:05 Speaker 2: you can't stay hi to the girl and you gonna

16:07 Speaker 2: call her alcohol in the same bad minutes.

16:10 Speaker 4: That's right, right, But then I feel like sudden goes

16:14 Speaker 4: too far.

16:15 Speaker 5: I mean, we can get into it later, but yeah,

16:17 Speaker 5: I mean, dere definitely gotta lick and and and Sutton

16:21 Speaker 5: felt it.

16:22 Speaker 4: She felt it for it.

16:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she called quick beatty and you know what,

16:26 Speaker 3: sorry said.

16:27 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's hard for the course. You know, are you

16:30 Speaker 2: jealous of her ugly lover pants? You know, like there

16:34 Speaker 2: sometimes people take there and Sutton likes to leave. So

16:40 Speaker 2: she's gonna do that. So she's gonna let out. She said,

16:46 Speaker 2: I have been called a itch or I called Jul

16:49 Speaker 2: a ditch, and I've done that I wanted to do,

16:51 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna go home. Suden. She really feels and

16:53 Speaker 2: sees that she is the the victim in this situation.

16:59 Speaker 2: And I think that you're right. There are two sides

17:01 Speaker 2: to it. There's like, you know, the Reada's coming in

17:04 Speaker 2: hot Sutton is a guest in her home and she's

17:07 Speaker 2: being not well treated as someone who has to be there.

17:11 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, we have to be here, and

17:13 Speaker 2: it's kind of like a cheap shot or a low

17:15 Speaker 2: blow to come straight for me, because that's easy proof.

17:19 Speaker 3: Like we know that we could fight, but you could

17:21 Speaker 3: also just have a.

17:22 Speaker 2: Party, right and we all just be here. We could

17:26 Speaker 2: just eat, like it doesn't need to be like, oh,

17:31 Speaker 2: Sutton's coming, I could give her a quick one to

17:33 Speaker 2: get the party roll and show head out and this

17:35 Speaker 2: will be all over, like you know, coming in, came

17:44 Speaker 2: in so hot.

17:46 Speaker 3: Kyle, you know, tries to get Setting to stay.

17:49 Speaker 2: And it's funny that Kyle called Sutton a hypocrite because

17:53 Speaker 2: Sutton told Kyle she shouldn't leave where she was emotional.

17:58 Speaker 2: But that was also sudden college hypocrit because every time's

18:02 Speaker 2: Setting try to leave, Kyle runs after her and says, no,

18:05 Speaker 2: you need to stay and face this, like Kyle and

18:08 Speaker 2: let nobody leave. Sometimes is that producer and it's like no, no, no,

18:12 Speaker 2: her her little cat and her cat flies behind her

18:15 Speaker 2: in another country. It's just like you know, trust is

18:18 Speaker 2: in there. Hey, hey, no wait, come we stop.

18:22 Speaker 3: Talk to me, like just be honest.

18:24 Speaker 2: And then you should say that, and then she brings them.

18:27 Speaker 3: Back out there, so Kyle specifically saying you shouldn't do.

18:31 Speaker 4: That too exactly.

18:33 Speaker 5: And this is where I find the show to be exhausting,

18:36 Speaker 5: because it's like we're just going very circular.

18:39 Speaker 4: It's like you have the problem because of her, and

18:41 Speaker 4: it's like, well, I don't.

18:42 Speaker 5: Know where one ends and one begins, and I don't

18:44 Speaker 5: really want to lit again for the twelfth year at

18:47 Speaker 5: this point.

18:48 Speaker 2: Essentially, Yeah, exactly when And I knew that when we

18:52 Speaker 2: got to Jurik's party in the first like ten minutes.

18:55 Speaker 2: Usually when Beverly Hills is on, there's one main event

18:58 Speaker 2: that happens somewhere where like between in in eighteen and

19:01 Speaker 2: thirty two, right, and then we have the rest of

19:03 Speaker 2: the time to ruminate in there. So usually you can

19:06 Speaker 2: like get through the bs of like the scenes of

19:09 Speaker 2: what this girl's doing and that girl's doing, and then

19:11 Speaker 2: a quick little meet up with two or three of

19:13 Speaker 2: them for drinks and French fries to share and talking shit,

19:17 Speaker 2: and then we go to the event. Right, But like,

19:20 Speaker 2: and so I do other things during that time. I

19:22 Speaker 2: used to the bathroom, I beat the doggie, and I

19:24 Speaker 2: keep it all loud. I go and you know, talk

19:27 Speaker 2: to Happy Yetty, see what he's doing for the day.

19:30 Speaker 2: And then I come back and I, you know, for

19:32 Speaker 2: the event. We got to Jarif party in like ten minutes, right,

19:36 Speaker 2: and that concerned me. Kara, I'm not gonna lie. I

19:38 Speaker 2: was like, oh no, We're gonna be here all damn day.

19:41 Speaker 2: It was.

19:41 Speaker 5: It was getting a little bit exhausting for me. I'm

19:44 Speaker 5: curious where you fall on like Dery and Bo'se's relationship,

19:48 Speaker 5: their friendship and do you feel like she's being u

19:52 Speaker 5: you know, me as representative or do you think she's

19:54 Speaker 5: just being a good friend.

19:57 Speaker 2: I think that this is the way Bo's frame, this

20:00 Speaker 2: is the way she friendships. I think she feels really

20:04 Speaker 2: like connected to Dart and especially at this time in

20:09 Speaker 2: her life.

20:11 Speaker 3: She you know, I don't think it doesn't feel like

20:15 Speaker 3: she's just trying for an.

20:16 Speaker 2: Ally because she also gave Derete the business, you know,

20:18 Speaker 2: a couple episodes ago. But behind closed doors with Erica,

20:23 Speaker 2: like at lunch and being like you need to wake up,

20:26 Speaker 2: you need to not be naive. But she seems like

20:27 Speaker 2: she's trying to look out for her and she keeps

20:30 Speaker 2: it real with her in profit, but then in public

20:33 Speaker 2: she is like, hey, why are y'all Paula har abasing

20:35 Speaker 2: her house? That's she kind of fucked up. That doesn't

20:38 Speaker 2: mean right. I don't like that, and I'm not mad

20:41 Speaker 2: at that because Sudden has it in garcel. You know,

20:45 Speaker 2: every yeah and white woman on Beverly Hills needs a

20:49 Speaker 2: strong black woman to like their tears and fight off

20:52 Speaker 2: all the other blonde and white women that are coming

20:57 Speaker 2: to them, right.

20:58 Speaker 4: And I feel like, you know, he's too. I mean,

21:03 Speaker 4: this is it was.

21:04 Speaker 5: Rude that Sudden showed up to the house to nobody

21:07 Speaker 5: and sat there for like forty minutes while Durit was

21:09 Speaker 5: finding her body chain. It's also rude to have like

21:13 Speaker 5: half of the guests in the entryway trying to calm

21:17 Speaker 5: somebody down from leaving, you know, like it is. It

21:20 Speaker 5: is not a good look. This is her home, Like,

21:22 Speaker 5: are y'all going to have this moment here forever? Or

21:26 Speaker 5: are y'all gonna actually come in like make a choice?

21:28 Speaker 2: Right? It's like, okay, so if she's leaving, why are

21:31 Speaker 2: we all still up here in the front, like me?

21:33 Speaker 2: Which is right? Why is all the guests at the

21:38 Speaker 2: front trying to stop the girl from leaving after she

21:41 Speaker 2: caught her a bitch in her house, right right? And

21:44 Speaker 2: I can understand to Bow's that sounds crazy, But then

21:47 Speaker 2: I also understood Arcel being like.

21:49 Speaker 3: You don't know the whole side, Like you don't know

21:51 Speaker 3: it either.

21:53 Speaker 2: She's like, all I know is this is they were

21:55 Speaker 2: fighting when I got here, and Bowse was like, okay,

21:58 Speaker 2: they're fighting, and I'm gonna let me go stand next

22:01 Speaker 2: to Derry and that's kind of what happened, but also

22:03 Speaker 2: not necessarily mad at that go off girl.

22:06 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing.

22:07 Speaker 3: Is it like better than Kyle.

22:09 Speaker 5: Yeah, Kyle and Garcel are frustrated by Bose is seemingly

22:14 Speaker 5: like constantly.

22:15 Speaker 4: Siding with Duri.

22:15 Speaker 5: But the thing is, I feel like, even if their

22:19 Speaker 5: main complain is she doesn't know the whole story, if

22:22 Speaker 5: those knew the whole story, I don't think her stands

22:25 Speaker 5: for change because Dari still tends to be in the right,

22:28 Speaker 5: especially with this whole Kyle and the Texas thing. So

22:32 Speaker 5: be frustrated, but I don't think the end result would

22:34 Speaker 5: be any different, right.

22:36 Speaker 2: And Bose is like, okay, so even still, I just

22:38 Speaker 2: want to point out that you're saying I don't know

22:41 Speaker 2: the whole story, but I can comment as a guest

22:44 Speaker 2: of all that the woman who called the host of

22:48 Speaker 2: bitches crying in the foyer, that's writing right because she

22:54 Speaker 2: called her a bittion wants to go home and go

22:55 Speaker 2: won't let.

22:56 Speaker 5: Her exactly, Like what, you're frustrated that you know Bose

23:02 Speaker 5: was taking your side and taking side over the Texas.

23:04 Speaker 5: But also you were basically like, you know, like I

23:09 Speaker 5: will never say anything you were on like some mafia

23:12 Speaker 5: coach sh it with PK and you're still not seeming

23:15 Speaker 5: your stand Why that's not okay.

23:17 Speaker 2: Exactly And it wasn't even just like you've been sending

23:20 Speaker 2: means and texting.

23:20 Speaker 3: That actually was bad enough, And that's what Barcelos told her.

23:24 Speaker 2: They were like, hey, Girley, how would be pains if

23:27 Speaker 2: you were testing my eggs? I'm not behold you. I

23:30 Speaker 2: don't like that. It's not goco, especially since they were

23:32 Speaker 2: best friends, part of a clint you know, the whole thing, right,

23:36 Speaker 2: like they have history, Durit and Kyle.

23:37 Speaker 3: So that was kind of wild.

23:38 Speaker 2: But also it literally sounded like you were pledging your

23:41 Speaker 2: own loyalty and allegiance to PK.

23:43 Speaker 3: To me, yeah, that would never say anything.

23:45 Speaker 2: That you shared with me in confidence. That doesn't sound

23:47 Speaker 2: like something you say to your best friends soon to

23:50 Speaker 2: be ex husband.

23:52 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a wild thing to say. I mean, and

23:54 Speaker 5: that's not even like taken out of context. No, no

23:59 Speaker 5: direct and very clear messaging.

24:01 Speaker 3: Of course, I'll never share anything that you shared with me,

24:05 Speaker 3: and I never have.

24:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you know?

24:08 Speaker 4: What are you talking about?

24:09 Speaker 2: Why are you pledging this? You're not saying that to Drey.

24:12 Speaker 2: It'd be one thing to be like, I know I'm

24:14 Speaker 2: friends with both both you and PK. Just know I

24:17 Speaker 2: would never share anything like my loyalty is to you.

24:20 Speaker 2: We are friends, and I would never share anything you

24:24 Speaker 2: know with him. That and I understood dere being like

24:29 Speaker 2: I actually resent you saying that to him, because forget loyalty.

24:32 Speaker 2: It's like I hope that if you knew something that

24:34 Speaker 2: would help me, that you would prioritize me.

24:37 Speaker 4: Hell, they focus on me.

24:39 Speaker 3: I'm your friend, yep.

24:41 Speaker 2: In fact, the fact that we're going through this divorce

24:43 Speaker 2: or separation time together, it's crazy that they can't lean

24:45 Speaker 2: on each other, like your friendship is never real.

24:48 Speaker 4: I would be devastated.

24:52 Speaker 5: When she was on like when they when Kyle had

24:54 Speaker 5: crashed out at Boz's house and they were she and

24:59 Speaker 5: were out there in the front yard, and then Kyle

25:01 Speaker 5: said in a confessional like, you know, as Dereet was

25:03 Speaker 5: talking to, alluding to PK being abusive in some term,

25:07 Speaker 5: and Kyle was like, well, I haven't seen that, okay.

25:10 Speaker 4: So what I would have been mine with her at

25:13 Speaker 4: that point doesn't really meet.

25:15 Speaker 2: When the ladies, especially on different franchises, any franchise, say

25:18 Speaker 2: that to the women, well, we've never seen that behavior.

25:21 Speaker 2: And there's one in particular, I can't remember which season

25:23 Speaker 2: of which city it was where a woman was like

25:26 Speaker 2: complaining about her man and stuff and they were like,

25:28 Speaker 2: we just don't know that of him, and that's like.

25:31 Speaker 3: All they kept pushing, and I'm like, of course you don't.

25:33 Speaker 2: You're not married to them. Hello, That doesn't like what

25:36 Speaker 2: are you? What is wrong with you? What are you

25:37 Speaker 2: not computing? She's trying to open up and be vulnerable

25:42 Speaker 2: about the person that y'all don't know. She knows a

25:44 Speaker 2: different side of him. And although we've never seen you know,

25:47 Speaker 2: we've seen cameras in their home, you have ever seen

25:49 Speaker 2: that side of them either? Have we? But it doesn't

25:51 Speaker 2: mean I can't believe it or understand it, because I've

25:54 Speaker 2: also not seen a warm husband all the time. I

25:58 Speaker 2: could believe anything.

25:59 Speaker 3: She knows more than I do.

26:00 Speaker 2: And it's not like there isn't evidence to support that

26:01 Speaker 2: they didn't have a good marriage when.

26:03 Speaker 3: They were getting divorced.

26:04 Speaker 2: If wasn't shot right an, I was less shocked than

26:09 Speaker 2: I was Kyler Mauricio.

26:11 Speaker 4: Hello, moving on, I'm like, what like tho?

26:15 Speaker 2: That one shocked me. I was like, that's the only

26:19 Speaker 2: thing that made sense to me was that Kyle had

26:21 Speaker 2: you know, one of your last mm hmm. And that's it.

26:25 Speaker 2: You know, Well, she wanted to do her la dolla

26:27 Speaker 2: bean thing, and I love that for her, and look,

26:31 Speaker 2: I have no issues. I think that's very cute. So

26:33 Speaker 2: you just saw her and Morgan Wade, you know, walking

26:35 Speaker 2: through and CEO having some lunchy lunch, supporting each other

26:40 Speaker 2: as they take care of very teddy, you know, literally

26:44 Speaker 2: like a couple taking care of teddy. I think it's cute.

26:49 Speaker 2: Why oh so? But why not?

26:52 Speaker 1: You know?

26:53 Speaker 2: So I thought that was the reason. And Mauricio wanted

26:56 Speaker 2: to know, go sew his oats mm hmm. Whatever ye be?

27:02 Speaker 2: You know, hot and put his tongue in young blonde

27:04 Speaker 2: women's mouths, and I.

27:05 Speaker 5: Think dance tom at four o'clock in the morning with

27:09 Speaker 5: some twenty two year old do you you know.

27:12 Speaker 2: It's just like I don't understand though, how PUD see

27:14 Speaker 2: the PK. How is PK winning both of y'all in

27:17 Speaker 2: the divorce? Like, think about that. If you know they're

27:20 Speaker 2: hanging out a moan PK, then me. I don't even

27:23 Speaker 2: profess to be a girl's girl, but instantly on some

27:26 Speaker 2: spike pull shit like on some I'm a girl. I'm oh,

27:29 Speaker 2: I'm going over here with my good judy. Hey, I

27:32 Speaker 2: know we have had some beef, but it doesn't feel

27:36 Speaker 2: good that they're over.

27:37 Speaker 3: There turning up if you need anything. Whatever, we got this.

27:41 Speaker 2: Like we will be in this together.

27:43 Speaker 3: I'm just letting you know I'm here like whatever, and

27:45 Speaker 3: like just be like.

27:46 Speaker 2: Let's put some of our shirt to side and share

27:48 Speaker 2: some fries and have martinis, you know, and talk about

27:52 Speaker 2: how shitty these men are. Love I could have I

27:54 Speaker 2: would have loved that for them. I actually feel like

27:56 Speaker 2: we're getting robbed and being given manufactured you know, real

28:00 Speaker 2: tense situations of women who don't like each other when

28:04 Speaker 2: if they just kind of pick those egos aside and

28:06 Speaker 2: stop thinking about each of these women with a competition

28:09 Speaker 2: to get a check, they could have something in camaraderie

28:14 Speaker 2: and community of like we've all been divorced and you

28:16 Speaker 2: two are going through a divorce right now together like

28:20 Speaker 2: we got this men's suck, girl power. Let's go be cute,

28:23 Speaker 2: you know, right exactly that is that thing. Let's get

28:27 Speaker 2: on a plane, let's get on the bass, let's get out. Please,

28:30 Speaker 2: we could be kids. See, I would love to see

28:32 Speaker 2: them all, you know, because like the sick, we could

28:35 Speaker 2: actually be doing a lot more than fighting by next

28:38 Speaker 2: to a bouncy house's.

28:42 Speaker 4: Check and go to santrope or something.

28:45 Speaker 3: Okay, like girl, he got you.

28:52 Speaker 2: Turn? You know, like that's kind of the thing also

28:56 Speaker 2: is like Kyle, why would why would you say that?

29:00 Speaker 2: Because me my conspiracy theory brain of like why would

29:03 Speaker 2: you specifically be like not just on here for you

29:06 Speaker 2: if you need a friend, but I will never share

29:08 Speaker 2: and I haven't before. Is there something like who says that?

29:12 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like they just felt like

29:15 Speaker 2: where they're smoked their's fire and to make it about production, Yeah,

29:20 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be a good friend my.

29:22 Speaker 4: Girl, please, Like, we don't even read a lie to

29:25 Speaker 4: me about this. This is not about TV because.

29:28 Speaker 3: You've never given a fought about keeping things hidden for TV.

29:31 Speaker 5: And what what do they have to do with the

29:32 Speaker 5: text message? Just don't show that the production of the

29:35 Speaker 5: text messages. You don't owe them that. He's also not

29:39 Speaker 5: a cast member on the show.

29:40 Speaker 2: You don't know he's not anything.

29:42 Speaker 3: While is production asking Kyle Richards about p K?

29:45 Speaker 2: Like, think about that?

29:47 Speaker 3: You know that was about production. In case they asked

29:50 Speaker 3: you about why wouldn't they just ask three?

29:52 Speaker 2: Right? It would actually probably ask you about theory, in

29:55 Speaker 2: which my first question would be if I was the producer,

29:58 Speaker 2: me or Carlos King or any of us, would like

30:00 Speaker 2: soap question, why are you prioritizing your friendship with PK

30:05 Speaker 2: instead of Jie? Like I thought, so are you guys

30:08 Speaker 2: not friends? Would you say you're a better friend to PK?

30:12 Speaker 2: Like you're closer to PK than you are to read

30:14 Speaker 2: like I would have these questions, and I what is it?

30:20 Speaker 4: She dried the clock?

30:21 Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know, she said, like the last time

30:25 Speaker 5: we spoke was in like March or something. And then

30:28 Speaker 5: I didn't speak to him again until the separation announcement,

30:31 Speaker 5: Like okay, but the separation announcement was early April, so

30:36 Speaker 5: you're talking like a couple of weeks at most.

30:38 Speaker 4: That wasn't like that span of time like months and months.

30:43 Speaker 2: No, And I don't know. Kyle rarely ever has a

30:47 Speaker 2: leg to stand on with me. I actually can't, for

30:50 Speaker 2: the life of me think of something that I have

30:53 Speaker 2: agreed with Coverts on.

30:56 Speaker 3: Since the inception of the show.

30:58 Speaker 2: How she handles things has always been poorly to me,

31:01 Speaker 2: Like since episode one, season one, how she handled her

31:05 Speaker 2: own sister. I was a good bat family, my god,

31:09 Speaker 2: with all employed, everyone replaceable in her seat, which is crazy,

31:15 Speaker 2: Like you would never know that this is the woman

31:18 Speaker 2: that she used to get LVP her other old best friend,

31:22 Speaker 2: like kicked out of here right, Like what the hell

31:25 Speaker 2: kle like it makes her It makes no sense to me,

31:28 Speaker 2: y'all let that girl get away with a murder because

31:30 Speaker 2: she got a good long hair. And that's crazy, Like

31:34 Speaker 2: I also believe she has beautiful hair. I don't think

31:37 Speaker 2: we should let her get away with anything.

31:39 Speaker 4: And that's very true. That is a great point.

31:42 Speaker 2: That was a beautiful woman. I don't let her get

31:43 Speaker 2: away with anything. Sen's the best personality I've seen on

31:48 Speaker 2: TV in a really long time. D Lulu a very

31:51 Speaker 2: appropriate level until now.

31:53 Speaker 3: And you know we don't let her get away with

31:55 Speaker 3: anything on.

31:55 Speaker 2: TV, right Kyle manipulates every season she is and control

32:01 Speaker 2: so much and she never gets held responsible or accountable,

32:04 Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't be surprised if we're all very disappointed

32:07 Speaker 2: at the reunion for how much slack she should get,

32:11 Speaker 2: especially if it's going to be half the season that

32:13 Speaker 2: we're talking about these damn texts. Y'all have better not

32:17 Speaker 2: helped me on this one. You need to hold her

32:19 Speaker 2: to the fire.

32:20 Speaker 5: I had that exact same thought yesterday, like if she

32:23 Speaker 5: is not prepared to answer some questions, then she needs

32:26 Speaker 5: to get off.

32:27 Speaker 4: And I don't like.

32:28 Speaker 5: Playing facer, but I'm not if you don't want to

32:31 Speaker 5: answer anything. And when she's finally held to the carpet

32:34 Speaker 5: at this party, at the fourth of July party and

32:37 Speaker 5: Dury saying, I actually thought the other day, I didn't

32:40 Speaker 5: really know much about what's going on in your life.

32:42 Speaker 5: And the only thing she could say was, you do

32:44 Speaker 5: know everything. I've been married for twenty eight years and

32:48 Speaker 5: I've been with Mauricio for thirty years and I have

32:50 Speaker 5: four kids.

32:51 Speaker 4: What more do you want to know? Like that is

32:53 Speaker 4: the most basic shit I have ever heard of my life. No,

32:57 Speaker 4: I'm right, what that was? Not?

33:02 Speaker 2: Kyle, you're not, But you want to know what when

33:06 Speaker 2: you have such contentious relationships with your sisters, like when

33:09 Speaker 2: your mom kind of you know, there was a lot

33:11 Speaker 2: of chaos and darkness in that house right growing up.

33:14 Speaker 2: If you watch the American Woman simply on how the

33:17 Speaker 2: faith of how bad it was, you know that it

33:21 Speaker 2: wasn't all good and gravy in that home. It was

33:24 Speaker 2: a little bit messy, a lot chaotic, wasn't very well structured,

33:28 Speaker 2: and so their relationships as sisters is very tenuous and

33:31 Speaker 2: stressed and strange. In which case that's Kyle's first indication

33:37 Speaker 2: on how to be a friend to other people and women,

33:41 Speaker 2: you know, like how to And she can't again what

33:45 Speaker 2: happened season one. She can't treat Kim well. She literally

33:49 Speaker 2: can't have the relationship with one sister were both sisters

33:51 Speaker 2: at the same time. She has to be in constant

33:53 Speaker 2: conflict with at least one woman in order for her

33:57 Speaker 2: to feel heard or you know, valued or accepted. It's

34:02 Speaker 2: almost like if she is not fighting with someone, she

34:04 Speaker 2: doesn't get to emote like and feel her feelings and

34:09 Speaker 2: express her feelings in that friendship like non confrontational so

34:14 Speaker 2: much that it sparks confrontation and that she's like anxious

34:18 Speaker 2: avoidant and runs away. And then she's like, I don't

34:20 Speaker 2: want to deal with this. I don't understand, and it's like,

34:23 Speaker 2: what is this conflict? Because you can't just talk to

34:25 Speaker 2: people and be like, I just don't feel close to

34:27 Speaker 2: you right.

34:27 Speaker 3: Now, and I wish I did like you, so for that.

34:31 Speaker 2: She is just some words.

34:34 Speaker 5: She's still wild, and I feel like she's been lying

34:36 Speaker 5: about that forehead Vane. I feel like it's come out

34:39 Speaker 5: like every episode since she talked about it, I've been God,

34:47 Speaker 5: I have to.

34:49 Speaker 2: Like h And why did de retake something? Little Kelly

34:52 Speaker 2: bag in a whole different like ten minutes.

34:59 Speaker 5: That's another great point that that was another layer of

35:02 Speaker 5: tension of like, girl, I'm not giving you Mike Kelly Dick.

35:04 Speaker 4: She said, no, I think you should. I really think

35:06 Speaker 4: you should.

35:07 Speaker 2: Like actually, it's like you owe it to me that

35:09 Speaker 2: no one help I think you do.

35:12 Speaker 3: No, I don't, I think you do I'm good.

35:16 Speaker 2: No you do. I said, oh no, this is too

35:20 Speaker 2: uncomfortable for me.

35:22 Speaker 3: It's like my old narrow diversion started ticket. I was like,

35:25 Speaker 3: I can't watch this. I can't, I can't, I can't.

35:27 Speaker 2: Please get that lady back that right.

35:31 Speaker 4: Kyle was like, let me get a drink please.

35:35 Speaker 3: No, I'm not a part of this.

35:37 Speaker 2: No more. I forgot.

35:40 Speaker 3: We're not even friends. Right now, I can go.

35:42 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go over there. And I would have done

35:45 Speaker 2: the same thing. It was way too awkward. Hated that.

35:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't get it.

35:51 Speaker 2: Brandy Glanville definitely did, as She's what inspired my question

35:56 Speaker 2: of these dory Don drones, because not only was she

35:58 Speaker 2: awkward and rude and very like to the point, she

36:01 Speaker 2: did seem a little like unfocused and uncentered. I guess

36:04 Speaker 2: it's just because she's a lot going on, but Brandy

36:06 Speaker 2: seems to think that dey is allegedly has to be

36:11 Speaker 2: on cocaine because of her jawline.

36:14 Speaker 3: Is this a correlation you've heard before? Am I do

36:16 Speaker 3: I not know something about the drug world?

36:19 Speaker 5: No?

36:19 Speaker 4: I have heard that before.

36:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, explain, like, what is that?

36:23 Speaker 1: Like?

36:24 Speaker 3: What happens to your jaw?

36:25 Speaker 4: I think it's just like you get tense and you

36:28 Speaker 4: don't realize that you're like tensing up your.

36:30 Speaker 5: Jaw or I think maybe you like grind your jaw

36:32 Speaker 5: a little bit in a way that sounds yeah, yeah, interesting.

36:37 Speaker 2: Now, when the picture was up on the social media,

36:41 Speaker 2: I did think to myself, now, whilst I may not

36:44 Speaker 2: know what she's referring to with this jaw situation, I

36:48 Speaker 2: do see something happening with this jaw that probably bears

36:53 Speaker 2: meaning else. There's something going on there. Okay, understood. That's

37:03 Speaker 2: pretty much all I had on Beverly Hills. I Potoma

37:07 Speaker 2: was when I watched it later, I had a week

37:12 Speaker 2: and I'm glad I did.

37:13 Speaker 4: Oh wait, you have one for you. I do have

37:16 Speaker 4: a question.

37:16 Speaker 2: Okay.

37:17 Speaker 4: So at the end of Beverly Hills.

37:18 Speaker 5: Durit and Kyle have a sit down and they go

37:21 Speaker 5: into Durit's bedroom, which is like chaos, messy, not suitable

37:27 Speaker 5: for camera or company, and Kyle's like, girls, something must

37:30 Speaker 5: be going on with you because I've never seen you

37:32 Speaker 5: like this. So then they have this conversation about their

37:35 Speaker 5: men where they're standing with their relationship, and Derey really

37:39 Speaker 5: gets it out of Kyle, like Are you.

37:41 Speaker 4: Trying to divorce this man or no?

37:43 Speaker 5: And it really seems like maybe behind the scenes, Mauricio

37:46 Speaker 5: was like, hey, babe, we don't need to worry about.

37:49 Speaker 4: This so soon.

37:51 Speaker 5: And I'm wondering where you stand, Like, do you feel

37:54 Speaker 5: like Mauricio is trying to hold off on divorce for

37:59 Speaker 5: uh like money reasons or do you think yeah.

38:03 Speaker 4: Like, okay, I really do.

38:06 Speaker 2: I think that forensic accounting would have to come out

38:08 Speaker 2: during the season and they don't want to do that

38:10 Speaker 2: right now. He has so many lawsuits and things that

38:13 Speaker 2: have been buried that we don't all talk about, but

38:17 Speaker 2: they always come up, you know, and then you never

38:19 Speaker 2: hear about them. Ever Yep, ever, yep, were like not

38:24 Speaker 2: a one and there has been many. Yeah, So I

38:30 Speaker 2: think that not while they're filming. There's just at least

38:34 Speaker 2: no real reason for that. When they're finalized and it's over,

38:37 Speaker 2: then Kyle can spin it however she wants, and that

38:39 Speaker 2: probably feels comfortable to her for the quote unquote sink

38:42 Speaker 2: of her children.

38:43 Speaker 3: You know, I really like, y'all gotta stop using your

38:46 Speaker 3: children to hide your shame.

38:47 Speaker 2: I'm really Sickrid Bate, Please, I'm really Sickrid bate for

38:50 Speaker 2: the sake of my kids that I want to come up.

38:51 Speaker 2: You don't want to be embarrassed. That's fine, you're a

38:55 Speaker 2: human being and it's you're allowed, right. I don't want

38:58 Speaker 2: to don't blame it on your kids. Your kids are

39:01 Speaker 2: not the ones suffering from your actions, well exactly.

39:04 Speaker 5: And it makes it adds this like layer of protection

39:06 Speaker 5: to you, like, oh, now I'm messing up your children's life.

39:09 Speaker 5: And it's like, no, that's not what it is. This

39:12 Speaker 5: is your life and the consequences of your actions.

39:14 Speaker 4: Like we got to talk about it.

39:16 Speaker 2: You did this.

39:18 Speaker 3: We were gonna talk about it because we're on a

39:19 Speaker 3: TV show, and that's what you signed out for.

39:21 Speaker 2: As they love, as she loves to remind people when

39:23 Speaker 2: evidence try to leave you out of the room, this

39:26 Speaker 2: is what you sign up for.

39:28 Speaker 3: Oh listen, I'm glad I waited on Potomac. It did

39:34 Speaker 3: it did a thing.

39:36 Speaker 2: These ladies did their big ones in so many ways

39:39 Speaker 2: that I honestly I could watch it again and again.

39:41 Speaker 2: When someone DMD me and said that this Potonac reunion

39:45 Speaker 2: was the best part one that we've had for the

39:47 Speaker 2: Potomac girlies, I said, no, that's a strong statement, because

39:51 Speaker 2: one place that the Ringans have not really suffered is Potomac.

39:55 Speaker 3: They have not disappointed yet.

39:57 Speaker 2: It's especially not consistency since Santley. They're like they're producing

40:02 Speaker 2: at a net positive average of reunions. Usually that's where

40:05 Speaker 2: the party starts.

40:06 Speaker 3: That's where I'm like, even Robin shows up, you know,

40:09 Speaker 3: and that's where we get it, you know.

40:12 Speaker 2: So to say that it was the best one, I

40:14 Speaker 2: was like, that's a strong statement.

40:15 Speaker 3: There's no way.

40:16 Speaker 2: But I was exciting and I would love to know

40:19 Speaker 2: your thoughts on how you think it compares, like opening

40:22 Speaker 2: up to other part ones. But I thought for a

40:24 Speaker 2: part one, I was wow, like completely like we got

40:31 Speaker 2: a lot for a part one scream.

40:34 Speaker 5: I agree, And I love when And it's rare these

40:38 Speaker 5: days that there's like a brand new information brought up

40:41 Speaker 5: that we have nothing like we didn't know about I

40:44 Speaker 5: didn't know.

40:44 Speaker 3: I don't know if you know, but yeah.

40:52 Speaker 2: Thing for like threef episode even I'm like, wait what

40:58 Speaker 2: is he? No?

40:58 Speaker 4: What what are wait?

41:00 Speaker 3: Take it to Miami?

41:01 Speaker 2: Wait? Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on me and

41:04 Speaker 2: the camera. I need to be doing this all year. Third,

41:06 Speaker 2: the House lives su Lake City and Potomac right now.

41:09 Speaker 2: Just film it all year.

41:10 Speaker 4: Keep it going, yep, just keep it going, like the vand.

41:12 Speaker 3: Of Parker rules, pick them cameras up every time them

41:15 Speaker 3: ladies have a problem.

41:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like two day, I am speeding to the point

41:22 Speaker 2: where like when the credits started to roll, I audibly

41:26 Speaker 2: said no, no, not there. Oh man.

41:34 Speaker 5: The way and the opening up of Stacy has been

41:37 Speaker 5: a delight to watch, Like she's activated.

41:42 Speaker 2: Activated. Some call it unraveling. It depends on your interpretation.

41:48 Speaker 2: This is the place I've never taken copious note like this.

41:53 Speaker 2: And I also want to say shout out to happy

41:55 Speaker 2: Ddie if there again, if you're listening at you, anybody

41:58 Speaker 2: wants to be in him and say love you so much.

42:00 Speaker 2: Your stuff is so good. It really helped me focus

42:05 Speaker 2: on all of the things that I was watching because

42:08 Speaker 2: my notes are beautiful.

42:11 Speaker 3: I've never taken those like this with an as with

42:14 Speaker 3: an ADHD brain.

42:16 Speaker 2: But I've also never been so entertained and like truly

42:21 Speaker 2: like captivated by what was happening from the opening with

42:24 Speaker 2: Karen and like one producer like them having a one

42:27 Speaker 2: on one.

42:29 Speaker 3: That first opening scene with that hat.

42:32 Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh my god, Carr Hat.

42:37 Speaker 3: The furry bucket hat. I said, oh, we're going through it,

42:41 Speaker 3: miss Huger.

42:42 Speaker 4: How much coach?

42:44 Speaker 5: I think it took for them to get her to

42:46 Speaker 5: film that twelve hours after her sentencing or not sentencing her,

42:51 Speaker 5: you know, verdict the verdict came out.

42:53 Speaker 3: I'm shocked that she did.

42:58 Speaker 2: I think it doesn't necessary fairly, but it does also

43:02 Speaker 2: make sense to me why a lot of things line

43:06 Speaker 2: up to me like her doing this seems like a

43:09 Speaker 2: bad idea. And then when before we saw it, knowing

43:13 Speaker 2: that she fired her lawyers very shortly after the sentencing too,

43:17 Speaker 2: also felt like a bad idea. So it seems like

43:20 Speaker 2: she's been having not great ideas. And while it is

43:26 Speaker 2: entertaining us, it is also like it is making my

43:30 Speaker 2: skin a little itchy. It just feels like like, oh,

43:33 Speaker 2: this is very sad and stressful.

43:37 Speaker 3: But also missus hu girl, we didn't put what is it?

43:40 Speaker 2: Sellah and something like you put the things under your

43:43 Speaker 2: eye like Amazon for a pack of thirty six, take

43:48 Speaker 2: them out of the pot and just put the one

43:51 Speaker 2: under each eye and usually fifteen minutes you could be

43:54 Speaker 2: working with a little something song. Okay, you can you

43:57 Speaker 2: can really puff those under eyes on it's just like

44:00 Speaker 2: wild that our grand don didn't to any of that.

44:04 Speaker 2: I can't believe they didn't even like why that night,

44:08 Speaker 2: Why twelve, I would have at least like.

44:10 Speaker 3: Can I sleep like I don't know, I just but

44:14 Speaker 3: but it's Karen and something. I love her. But something

44:16 Speaker 3: about that ego I know they were. I don't think

44:20 Speaker 3: it even took too too much.

44:22 Speaker 2: It was just like the right amount the right producer

44:26 Speaker 2: who she has a good relationship with, who she really

44:29 Speaker 2: feels connected to, and the right amount of empathy of like,

44:33 Speaker 2: I think that it is important to get your side

44:35 Speaker 2: of the story out there. And also I think she

44:39 Speaker 2: needed to change the image that we at the time

44:43 Speaker 2: were seeing. Once the body cam footage came out, was

44:46 Speaker 2: the team's footage and stuff came out, was the charges

44:49 Speaker 2: and the sense the the vernage came out.

44:53 Speaker 3: Once all of that came out, we had very.

44:55 Speaker 2: Big reactions from the public because it was bad like

44:59 Speaker 2: that the camp for these was so red because tear

45:05 Speaker 2: the things you could do, so to the point where

45:08 Speaker 2: as a black woman Macgovernment County, Maryland, where she is,

45:12 Speaker 2: I know she was hammered. She didn't because that's just

45:15 Speaker 2: thinking not what we would do. I don't think she's

45:19 Speaker 2: ever had that relationship as a woman. You know, it's

45:20 Speaker 2: been in that community for a long time, you know

45:23 Speaker 2: what I mean. But I just don't think she would

45:24 Speaker 2: have done that because she cares so much about how

45:27 Speaker 2: she's perceiving, how she's seen. So she really my son

45:30 Speaker 2: been in a good way that night, and we saw

45:33 Speaker 2: it and it looked bad. It was like ten out

45:36 Speaker 2: of ten, worse than I thought, worse than what I

45:39 Speaker 2: thought it could be. Like some the do you know

45:43 Speaker 2: who I am, this one ever touched me? Yikes to

45:45 Speaker 2: there or Thomas Jefferson con Cuban big ykes like don't

45:52 Speaker 2: touch me resistant the yikes are.

45:54 Speaker 5: Like it's really a lot, right, And the thing that

45:58 Speaker 5: was most shocking to me is like it didn't seem

46:01 Speaker 5: like she ever sobered up, like it no, like once

46:05 Speaker 5: we get into the station, nothing, once we're in the.

46:10 Speaker 4: Nothing, it's not adding up.

46:14 Speaker 2: It's not given. If you listen, I have gone full drunk,

46:21 Speaker 2: like and stay at the bar like an extra two

46:25 Speaker 2: hours to finish my you know, be a better French

46:27 Speaker 2: fries or whatever when I'm in college, and then then

46:30 Speaker 2: like okay, I'm winding down. Then you get like a

46:31 Speaker 2: proud or something with a line for the road, like

46:33 Speaker 2: you know, to to end off the night, talk to

46:36 Speaker 2: the people, chill out, have some fun of pak fries whatever,

46:39 Speaker 2: and then walk back to my to my apartment. It

46:42 Speaker 2: because I'm not had sense in college, walk back and

46:48 Speaker 2: do the responsible thing. And even I'm like, the beer

46:51 Speaker 2: is supposed to like, it's not. It's not gonna make

46:55 Speaker 2: you crash your Ferrari resistant rest from an officer, throw

46:59 Speaker 2: down them out, push a wig back sticks into It's

47:03 Speaker 2: nothing to do all what bell you have? It?

47:07 Speaker 3: Is it important?

47:09 Speaker 4: What stella was that?

47:10 Speaker 2: What?

47:10 Speaker 4: What batch of stella was that?

47:13 Speaker 2: I never had that?

47:14 Speaker 3: Parts?

47:16 Speaker 4: The holiday edition that has the extra.

47:20 Speaker 3: Did you smell it out from all?

47:21 Speaker 2: Did you bring your wish you from? What? What is

47:26 Speaker 2: that like? Isn't being lowing alcoholshioners? Just listen.

47:34 Speaker 3: I think the public having a big response to it

47:38 Speaker 3: made make sense.

47:41 Speaker 2: It's bad. People are deeply affected by drunk drivers and

47:44 Speaker 2: stuff every day. They say all the time.

47:46 Speaker 3: It's like the one.

47:48 Speaker 2: Driving incident that no one can be prepared for is

47:51 Speaker 2: another day driver. You can never safely avoid a drink driver.

47:57 Speaker 2: It's like they made that decision to cause chaos, recavoc

48:01 Speaker 2: and invoke danger on the people around them at whatever

48:05 Speaker 2: cost of for what decisions they made or whatever tim

48:08 Speaker 2: they wanted to.

48:08 Speaker 3: Have or whatever it is they're going through. So there's

48:10 Speaker 3: really no.

48:11 Speaker 2: Excuse for it. And I think that Karen needed the

48:13 Speaker 2: opportunity to take accountability and take responsibility because she didn't

48:17 Speaker 2: like up until now, and she should have. She handled

48:21 Speaker 2: this whole thing incorrectly. That's from day one. She should

48:27 Speaker 2: have taken the plea. She shouldn't going to rehab. They

48:30 Speaker 2: probably would have put it in the conditions of the plea,

48:33 Speaker 2: like she really should have let that ego go because

48:37 Speaker 2: you did it. Full know, they got this video and Discovery,

48:41 Speaker 2: so what is that what?

48:44 Speaker 4: And she knows about the Discovery thing.

48:47 Speaker 3: It's Karen, huh, Okay.

48:53 Speaker 2: You didn't even have to go out of town for it,

48:57 Speaker 2: local Discovery on a PDS sins over to you be

49:01 Speaker 2: your email whatever you see what they had seeing that video.

49:06 Speaker 5: I think the initial video that we saw, like after

49:08 Speaker 5: the verdict, was good because then we see later that

49:12 Speaker 5: like Christmas.

49:13 Speaker 4: Album video that she does.

49:15 Speaker 5: It was like, hey, hey ladies, I just want to

49:17 Speaker 5: thank everybody, but Wendy fuck Wendy, I love you Andy.

49:20 Speaker 2: Yes literally yo. When they opened with Karena producer is

49:25 Speaker 2: one thing. Karen being at the Republic Center. She finally

49:28 Speaker 2: got her beat together. She looks beautiful the video that

49:32 Speaker 2: she set. Uh. They all seated. Ashley Shadily goes and

49:38 Speaker 2: they're like, care please, which is crazy because you bought

49:42 Speaker 2: the picture. So actually, I need you to calm it down.

49:46 Speaker 2: Let's be got time. Just give her a little bit.

49:49 Speaker 2: Don't kick the lady while she's literally down, like okay.

49:54 Speaker 3: So Garen's in recarversentation.

49:55 Speaker 2: She looks really good. Her hair, her wig is you know, perfect,

49:58 Speaker 2: She you know, did something about them eye. She got

50:00 Speaker 2: a fresh beat and she's thanking everyone. This is why

50:04 Speaker 2: Karen Dumer Karen Hugert got casted. She opens up with Gaselle,

50:10 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I started tearing up the fact

50:12 Speaker 2: that you know, because we know what history these ladies

50:14 Speaker 2: have on the show, and we know of the history

50:17 Speaker 2: that they have before the show.

50:18 Speaker 3: They've been friends a really long time.

50:20 Speaker 2: They've known each other a really long time in the community,

50:24 Speaker 2: you know, as becoming adults in the areas being for

50:26 Speaker 2: a few black women in this specific circle of you

50:31 Speaker 2: know of that you know type knit community, that rich

50:33 Speaker 2: community that is not super uh, you know, accepting and

50:37 Speaker 2: open to change, different diversity, all those kinds of things.

50:43 Speaker 2: I am proud of yourself for reaching out, you know,

50:47 Speaker 2: and not letting her you know, and still and being

50:50 Speaker 2: that good friend because like, no matter what fights we're having,

50:54 Speaker 2: this is bigger than that. I actually want you to

50:55 Speaker 2: get help and and do better for yourself, like do differently.

50:59 Speaker 2: And I appreciate Karen like a you know, thanking her.

51:02 Speaker 2: It made me a little bit emotional. I felt for

51:05 Speaker 2: them because you know how many things they've been through.

51:07 Speaker 2: So to see this happening to someone that you know,

51:09 Speaker 2: that you've been friends with a pretty long time, that

51:11 Speaker 2: you do care about, you know, it is probably hard

51:14 Speaker 2: for you know, Gizelle, to see her making poor decisions

51:17 Speaker 2: and to see her life going in this direction. It's

51:20 Speaker 2: really sad. And I really think it started with Karen's

51:23 Speaker 2: parents dying. Man. I just think that we didn't recover.

51:26 Speaker 2: We and not that she could have or you know,

51:28 Speaker 2: needed to in a specific way. I just think that

51:31 Speaker 2: we've been coping not well.

51:33 Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, that's very big and I feel a

51:36 Speaker 5: lot of empathy for her, and yeah, it was touching

51:39 Speaker 5: to see Gizelle react and get emotional to that, because

51:43 Speaker 5: you're right, like, not only do they have an off

51:45 Speaker 5: camera pre show relationship, it's clear that the ladies, I mean,

51:50 Speaker 5: I'm sure they'll talk about it in the next few parts,

51:52 Speaker 5: like have seen things from Karen and that have been

51:55 Speaker 5: very concerning even leading up to this, So I think,

51:57 Speaker 5: you know, there's probably a part of her that's like, oh.

51:59 Speaker 4: Thank god that she's like getting herself help.

52:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, relief that she's in a rehab center.

52:05 Speaker 2: They didn't know that. They were all like really really

52:08 Speaker 2: relieved the scene from across the board.

52:10 Speaker 3: They were like, oh thank.

52:11 Speaker 2: God, yeah good. But then instantly that changed into a

52:16 Speaker 2: quick divide on motives and intentions.

52:19 Speaker 3: A few of us believe that Karen.

52:23 Speaker 2: Did this soon after her verdict to not avoid sentencing,

52:29 Speaker 2: but to postpone and the paint a better picture and

52:32 Speaker 2: with sentencing. I I don't know, I need a lawyer

52:38 Speaker 2: DM me and let me know, like if it would

52:39 Speaker 2: have been a better idea to like let them put

52:41 Speaker 2: this in the sentence like that, let this be a

52:44 Speaker 2: condition of sentencing, maybe like you know, like maybe like

52:48 Speaker 2: ask the court like if you can talk to the prosecutor,

52:50 Speaker 2: like the plea deals off the table.

52:51 Speaker 3: You got to win.

52:53 Speaker 2: Can we make it like, you know, a few days

52:55 Speaker 2: of jail, tomatom server probation and she got to go

52:59 Speaker 2: to an inpatient we have for ninety days or whatever.

53:01 Speaker 2: She goes to jail. I think that would have made sense.

53:05 Speaker 2: But you know she edited heretoy quickly buy her team,

53:09 Speaker 2: and so they're into the motivation behind her going. Is

53:13 Speaker 2: a discussion amongst the group, and some of them are

53:16 Speaker 2: just classes getting actual help, and some of them are like, no,

53:19 Speaker 2: she's doing this show, you know, for attention. And I'm like, ladies,

53:22 Speaker 2: why can't you thinks beture with ones.

53:24 Speaker 4: Exactly because that's what they want.

53:27 Speaker 2: She needs help and she thinks it will help her

53:32 Speaker 2: and if we need to. I mean a lot of

53:34 Speaker 2: children all the time to get them to do things

53:36 Speaker 2: that are good for them, right, parents, A lot of

53:40 Speaker 2: children all the time, to get them to eat things

53:42 Speaker 2: that are good for them, to do something good for them,

53:46 Speaker 2: like we're gonna go. I mean, we just call it,

53:47 Speaker 2: and you know, you may say you're not a lot.

53:49 Speaker 2: We call it cute, colorful language. We put stickers on things.

53:53 Speaker 2: We you know, buy like, you know, some fancy nutritious

53:57 Speaker 2: drink and but it looks like chocolate milk and we

53:59 Speaker 2: say chocolate milk like we do it all the time.

54:02 Speaker 2: Please can't drink these beats, I mean chocolate milk and

54:07 Speaker 2: use a little fraufit And they're like, oh milk, And

54:09 Speaker 2: you're like, you know, doctors bills this year, like no sicknesses,

54:13 Speaker 2: like you.

54:14 Speaker 3: Know, so we gotta do what we gotta do to

54:18 Speaker 3: get in there.

54:19 Speaker 2: As long as.

54:19 Speaker 4: She's in there, nobody wants to go to jail.

54:24 Speaker 3: You know, that's an ethically just so over me.

54:28 Speaker 2: Like it actually was hard to watch it, to watch

54:30 Speaker 2: the opening video, that was hard to watch with the producer.

54:33 Speaker 3: She's not having a good go at it right now.

54:36 Speaker 2: This is not good.

54:37 Speaker 3: She's having a hard time.

54:38 Speaker 2: And I can imagine that she she looked like she's

54:41 Speaker 2: been crying a lot, but that she's really been, you know,

54:43 Speaker 2: upset about herself. Like she's taking a kind of billy now,

54:46 Speaker 2: but she really feels the shame. She feels you know, bad,

54:49 Speaker 2: and she's scared because jail. Yeah, I really want to

54:55 Speaker 2: know what kind of jail she would go to if

54:57 Speaker 2: it's the one that I think it is. It's right

55:01 Speaker 2: by a fantastic restaurant and beautiful brown stones. No, it's

55:10 Speaker 2: actually in Potoma, the is and it's actually beautiful land.

55:15 Speaker 2: It's nothing. It doesn't even make sense where it is.

55:18 Speaker 2: But that's just like the way that the bn B

55:21 Speaker 2: was developed. It was like, oh, we need a government

55:22 Speaker 2: building over there. So there, Oh, look at these rolling

55:25 Speaker 2: hills that used to be a plantation. Now it's in development.

55:28 Speaker 2: Tool let's do it. So if it's that one, they

55:32 Speaker 2: should be close to home. I am. I do worry

55:36 Speaker 2: about her kids. I am thinking about you know that

55:38 Speaker 2: that Raven who that identity crisis she's about to have.

55:43 Speaker 5: I'm always thinking about Raisin. I'll happily take her under

55:46 Speaker 5: my wings. As you know, my New York daughter.

55:49 Speaker 2: She needs a love that love that that is so

55:53 Speaker 2: kind of you. I really think that's beautiful.

55:56 Speaker 3: So Karen, I love it.

55:58 Speaker 2: In her video, she started taking a ten who her

56:01 Speaker 2: supporters were, she was all right, so here are the girlies.

56:04 Speaker 2: Here's the report of the girlies that clopped in the

56:06 Speaker 2: sweet during this time. We have Giselle a number one.

56:09 Speaker 2: She's ahead of the top of the pairmid we love

56:12 Speaker 2: She's up here, okay, she said, really, she's at the

56:16 Speaker 2: bottom of the pyramid, like she's the Nia at this point,

56:20 Speaker 2: and I love Nia. This is no shade of Nia.

56:23 Speaker 3: But she's like, you're at the bottom, but thank you

56:26 Speaker 3: for being here. You did your best. And then next

56:28 Speaker 3: we have my girl, k K. You did cute.

56:31 Speaker 2: See you showed up your first season. Proud of you,

56:34 Speaker 2: you know, you really good job. And this person everything's

56:38 Speaker 2: a little bit for your test. And really at the

56:40 Speaker 2: top of the pairmid you guessed it, and we're all like,

56:44 Speaker 2: is it gonna be? Is it gonna be?

56:46 Speaker 3: Is it the tom of the klone?

56:48 Speaker 2: We really wanted to be Chloe. She really she deserved

56:51 Speaker 2: she won number one. She's gonna do suing to you.

56:54 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, she's been doing really well. And

56:56 Speaker 2: I'm like, when doy you been a good she she

56:58 Speaker 2: really did. When they did that moth cause she really

57:00 Speaker 2: a rider for parrot all season, died, I really you

57:02 Speaker 2: hate to see that. I was like, and then no,

57:05 Speaker 2: it's Andy Cohen, none other than up on the top again.

57:11 Speaker 2: Even he was like me, Andy looked like when Trump

57:17 Speaker 2: won the first election, if you remember when you know,

57:21 Speaker 2: if you were watching the you know, world take an

57:24 Speaker 2: interesting twist, now dark turn.

57:27 Speaker 3: The first time around, he looked shook.

57:29 Speaker 2: He was like me, Okay, that's what it would looked like.

57:35 Speaker 2: He was like, huh wild look Darren the assistant as

57:43 Speaker 2: the symptom flowers. But you know, as soon as you

57:47 Speaker 2: saw and went and Darren the film, you're welcome. I

57:51 Speaker 2: treated myself to Miss Scarby's on your card, really really wild.

57:58 Speaker 2: Wendy and the h we're not feased at all with

58:02 Speaker 2: the video, the eyes the whole time. They were upset

58:07 Speaker 2: the whole time.

58:08 Speaker 3: She didn't think Ashley.

58:11 Speaker 2: I guess why was she?

58:12 Speaker 3: She didn't think Stacey. I guess when was she. I'm

58:15 Speaker 3: just saying she didn't think.

58:16 Speaker 2: Like three three people's oh and and the rest of them.

58:20 Speaker 2: I guess kim Burn and Hale. But she was like,

58:23 Speaker 2: it's I know, you'll make me proud and you'll look beautiful,

58:27 Speaker 2: And to my surprise, they all do the thing. This

58:29 Speaker 2: field was titties Hello. The theme this field was tay

58:35 Speaker 2: let me tell you every lady game Prepare.

58:38 Speaker 4: Hello, top show, top show.

58:42 Speaker 2: Like even Giselle actually looks really gorgeous to me.

58:45 Speaker 5: I heard she used Wendy's silas, which makes sense.

58:50 Speaker 2: Makes sense because actually Windy, I am usually pleased with

58:54 Speaker 2: how Wendy dresses, like she's had a couple of misses,

58:56 Speaker 2: but overall, I actually like Wendy's silence. It's being Gazelle

59:01 Speaker 2: that we've been really concerned about because like, you have options.

59:05 Speaker 2: Why you know, the girl in this area is dressing

59:07 Speaker 2: like this as alone, and I'm glad. I'm happy that

59:13 Speaker 2: she looks, you know, good, ah, because she's a pretty

59:15 Speaker 2: lady and your face you can't have to do so

59:17 Speaker 2: much work because your outfits.

59:20 Speaker 5: Again Ejacy, Yeah, I was saying, it's rare that we

59:23 Speaker 5: get to see like the full scope of Gazelle's beauty,

59:27 Speaker 5: which is wild, like she really plays herself.

59:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like.

59:32 Speaker 2: When we really have so much potential, we really could

59:35 Speaker 2: do it if we just gave it. Are all like

59:38 Speaker 2: really a good old college try, you know, Okay, Sacy, Wow,

59:48 Speaker 2: she would be the first contract that they call hello

59:53 Speaker 2: And I am shocked. She's at the end of the

59:56 Speaker 2: of the sofa with how much we're getting all ready,

1:00:00 Speaker 2: I didn't expect it.

1:00:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like this reunion, she's taking it for

1:00:05 Speaker 4: what I hear making it.

1:00:07 Speaker 2: I like I'm glad that they space these out between

1:00:10 Speaker 2: Salt Lake City and potomacaus care.

1:00:11 Speaker 3: I don't think I could have handled it. I don't

1:00:13 Speaker 3: not gonna do this.

1:00:14 Speaker 2: This would be a lot in a week. I would

1:00:16 Speaker 2: go to work and something next day, not gonna have

1:00:17 Speaker 2: a job anymore. Hashtag laid off this week. But I

1:00:21 Speaker 2: was gonna work the very next day, Like did you think?

1:00:23 Speaker 2: Because I would never even talking about anything else but

1:00:25 Speaker 2: like Wednesday night, Salt Lake City, Monday morning, I'm talking

1:00:29 Speaker 2: about Potomac, Like I can't think straight with how much

1:00:33 Speaker 2: these new cast members, these friend of like promoted ones,

1:00:37 Speaker 2: these brand new housewives are coming.

1:00:39 Speaker 3: In so hot, like have you been? Why can we

1:00:45 Speaker 3: not get them here before?

1:00:47 Speaker 2: I know.

1:00:50 Speaker 4: There, right on time?

1:00:51 Speaker 3: You know what, right on time?

1:00:52 Speaker 2: The lords.

1:00:53 Speaker 3: Okay, Wendy was like, I'll walk into him. My God

1:00:55 Speaker 3: sent me?

1:00:56 Speaker 2: And then and so did he send Wendy. I mean

1:01:00 Speaker 2: that's Stacy, my word, Stacy's doing a good job. I'm

1:01:04 Speaker 2: really she's seeing Wendy's idea question mark or Eddie's business

1:01:09 Speaker 2: question mark?

1:01:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, where does that come from?

1:01:12 Speaker 3: Here's what happened.

1:01:13 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you right now. He took a gummy

1:01:17 Speaker 2: which is funny because it also lets me know that

1:01:19 Speaker 2: Stace's a lightweight, because Happy Eddie only goes up to

1:01:22 Speaker 2: I think ten milibram gummies right now, it's all low

1:01:25 Speaker 2: dose and for those who think that's not low dose,

1:01:29 Speaker 2: and in Maryland.

1:01:31 Speaker 3: It can be higher for medical purposes.

1:01:33 Speaker 2: So a lot of brands and companies make both, like

1:01:37 Speaker 2: medical high dose and recreational low doos because they double capital.

1:01:42 Speaker 3: Here's a small business, he's just starting.

1:01:44 Speaker 2: Give him a second. He'll then himself took out there,

1:01:47 Speaker 2: but he has low doses, so she probably took that

1:01:49 Speaker 2: five at that party. They're usually high sativa hybrids, which

1:01:54 Speaker 2: means you're happy or you fork, but also you are creative,

1:01:58 Speaker 2: juicy love. And I think she was having a grand

1:02:02 Speaker 2: time and was like we should do this. I have

1:02:05 Speaker 2: had let me tell you something. I took a happy

1:02:08 Speaker 2: YETI once and changed my entire after a bad day

1:02:10 Speaker 2: and changed my entire podcast format. Final picture on Carava

1:02:16 Speaker 2: for three hours, okay, like let me tell you the

1:02:20 Speaker 2: juice is just flowed like yeah, And all of a

1:02:23 Speaker 2: sudden she was like, you know it would be really

1:02:25 Speaker 2: cool it to like spacey Stacy, like, let's call it. Wait,

1:02:31 Speaker 2: so what do you think about and just talking shooting

1:02:33 Speaker 2: the ship and thinking that it might be a q

1:02:34 Speaker 2: venture for her as she's getting a divorced from a

1:02:36 Speaker 2: powerful rich man. M hm, okay, I don't think.

1:02:41 Speaker 3: I don't think she's really trying to, like, you know,

1:02:42 Speaker 3: swagger to that car. But I also heard.

1:02:44 Speaker 2: Wendy trying to, you know, give a warning in a

1:02:46 Speaker 2: very nice way about I hope you wouldn't do that

1:02:48 Speaker 2: without at least talking to me, like and I think

1:02:50 Speaker 2: that it was a nice way like and now that's

1:02:52 Speaker 2: her way of being. Like now, Stacey, it's let me.

1:02:56 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna believe it. But if I find out

1:02:58 Speaker 2: differently and you had to talk to me, and you're

1:03:00 Speaker 2: the kind of problem because a light check a light

1:03:05 Speaker 2: check like a light you know, Eddie, I love it.

1:03:07 Speaker 2: Do you think like I you could show me the

1:03:10 Speaker 2: roads or anything. Believe it or not.

1:03:12 Speaker 3: There's more than enough.

1:03:14 Speaker 2: But this my mom used to always say, there's enough

1:03:16 Speaker 2: success to go around. It's like her favorite thing to say.

1:03:20 Speaker 2: And specifically, if you sell any kind of cannabis in

1:03:27 Speaker 2: the in the state of Maryland, it has to like

1:03:29 Speaker 2: be grown in man. In fact, you're pretty much in

1:03:31 Speaker 2: the state of Maryland anyway, look to a particular point.

1:03:35 Speaker 2: There are companies and stuff that self from out of

1:03:37 Speaker 2: state and that come in, but majority of them have

1:03:40 Speaker 2: to be done the Maryland. So like you're not young

1:03:41 Speaker 2: ones like it'll be okay, that's space to Stacy. So

1:03:45 Speaker 2: there's no reason too hide it from them. You could

1:03:47 Speaker 2: just talk to them. Don't be a shady queen.

1:03:50 Speaker 5: I was confused about Gazelle's base and her voice over

1:03:53 Speaker 5: that situation, like, what what stakes do you have?

1:03:57 Speaker 2: Why are you so mad about She's like, you know,

1:04:01 Speaker 2: she's just I've never said her care so much about

1:04:03 Speaker 2: how other people's integrity is portrayed on the show at

1:04:07 Speaker 2: the expense of her own. But she was like, okay,

1:04:13 Speaker 2: so y'all open there, and you're acting like when you

1:04:15 Speaker 2: VFF and y'all are you know good judies like you know,

1:04:18 Speaker 2: the new Me and Ashley or whatever new ally for

1:04:20 Speaker 2: allies like friends and allies, and you're trying to swab

1:04:24 Speaker 2: Jack Hasband's company, m that you don't know that it's

1:04:29 Speaker 2: just really giving, you know, shade for the sake of shade.

1:04:34 Speaker 2: Why did you want to tell us about Moniquees alleged

1:04:36 Speaker 2: baby with that trainer. Why great? Yeah, what is your beef? Like?

1:04:41 Speaker 3: What difference does it make to you? The fraternity of

1:04:44 Speaker 3: that exactly? What you are none breaking up that family

1:04:50 Speaker 3: and calling that man.

1:04:51 Speaker 2: And that's not his kids for what purpose?

1:04:53 Speaker 7: Hello?

1:04:54 Speaker 2: Like? But what is it?

1:04:55 Speaker 3: I don't understand.

1:04:56 Speaker 4: So if you don't have more than enough to worry about?

1:04:58 Speaker 2: What that girl like? Yeah? Like okay, like Stacey, you

1:05:02 Speaker 2: know how you're like, you're pretending maybe a good friend

1:05:04 Speaker 2: of Wendy, but you're like seeing her husband's idea.

1:05:06 Speaker 3: Okay, well, Stacey, Stacy's coming you guys hurt her here first?

1:05:09 Speaker 2: And when he said, I hope you wouldn't do that

1:05:11 Speaker 2: without telling me, and Gizelle said, I'm telling you.

1:05:14 Speaker 3: Kara screamed, what strange.

1:05:20 Speaker 4: Karen?

1:05:20 Speaker 5: Stuff like Wendy, why didn't you listen to me when

1:05:23 Speaker 5: I told you all those times that Karen didn't fuck

1:05:25 Speaker 5: with you?

1:05:26 Speaker 4: Like, well, because I wasn't fucking with you.

1:05:28 Speaker 2: Giselle, Right, I can't listen to you and just sa

1:05:31 Speaker 2: like you know, I don't give a shit. He's gonna

1:05:34 Speaker 2: be mucky and I'm telling you the truth. They don't

1:05:37 Speaker 2: like she don't like you. And you know one thing

1:05:39 Speaker 2: gazelle is is not a liar about the mess, right,

1:05:43 Speaker 2: she'll lie about her own life, but as soon as

1:05:45 Speaker 2: she gets that little bone, oh she's gonna bring it

1:05:47 Speaker 2: to you. And best believe if it's that bad, that's

1:05:50 Speaker 2: why she's bringing it. Right. Yep, she wouldn't be here

1:05:53 Speaker 2: if it wasn't important. And let's not where you didn't

1:05:58 Speaker 2: have your back. Okay, So some other fun things. This

1:06:02 Speaker 2: trust fund building generational wealth for her family. Yeah, very cute,

1:06:08 Speaker 2: Like these were obviously all rich people thoughts and ideas.

1:06:14 Speaker 2: Trust fund already over my head, like about you know,

1:06:18 Speaker 2: having that for three children, let alone just in general.

1:06:22 Speaker 2: But I love that they like they don't have to

1:06:25 Speaker 2: get a master's in order to it's to you know,

1:06:28 Speaker 2: get their trust like you know when they you know

1:06:31 Speaker 2: they had to. They are trying to do it differently,

1:06:33 Speaker 2: but they want to intent. They want to give their

1:06:35 Speaker 2: kids the free will to choose what they want to

1:06:38 Speaker 2: do with their lives, but incentivize them that if they

1:06:44 Speaker 2: want a little extra money, then they have to do

1:06:49 Speaker 2: Nigerian a little bit right us like regardless, but every

1:06:58 Speaker 2: tick of like good jobs that we get from the

1:07:03 Speaker 2: elders in the Nigerian community and stuff back home for

1:07:05 Speaker 2: raising you.

1:07:06 Speaker 3: Well, you get more money, thanks so much. I love it.

1:07:09 Speaker 4: And that was yeah, you're right, that was true. Well

1:07:11 Speaker 4: so it's like, oh no, they're getting money. They just

1:07:13 Speaker 4: get more.

1:07:14 Speaker 7: They're just gonna be getting like little girl, what is

1:07:17 Speaker 7: her daughter's name, Cameron, Cameron, go be a AKA girl,

1:07:22 Speaker 7: get that bag, get the bad girl.

1:07:25 Speaker 2: If she pledges AKA like her mama, she will get

1:07:29 Speaker 2: an additional checkie check from her trust. Gaselle went off

1:07:32 Speaker 2: because she's also in AKA. She was like, let me

1:07:34 Speaker 2: devise my children person, let me find a donor and

1:07:37 Speaker 2: then incentivize my girls, and three of them two She

1:07:41 Speaker 2: was like, you know, you get it extra thousand dollars

1:07:43 Speaker 2: a year if you go to Hampton, and then two

1:07:46 Speaker 2: more dollars if you pledge AKA, which needs more important anyway, but.

1:07:52 Speaker 3: Generational wealth. Absolutely love it.

1:07:54 Speaker 2: You go kids, if they get a master's, they get

1:07:56 Speaker 2: more money if they learn Emo, which is the name

1:08:00 Speaker 2: the tongue for al. With their families being so prominent

1:08:05 Speaker 2: in Nigerian community, especially back in Nigeria, it makes sense

1:08:10 Speaker 2: that they're like, we want you to be proud of

1:08:12 Speaker 2: your culture and if you take the time out of

1:08:14 Speaker 2: your life.

1:08:14 Speaker 3: To pursue that on your own.

1:08:16 Speaker 2: Then we think you should be rewarded for that. And

1:08:19 Speaker 2: I think that's dope. I did too.

1:08:21 Speaker 4: I think it's like a double asset. It's like you

1:08:23 Speaker 4: get this great thing out of it, and you get

1:08:25 Speaker 4: a check.

1:08:27 Speaker 2: Being proud of myself, Okay, self esteem. That's why you

1:08:31 Speaker 2: and I I think Wendy is. I've always thought she

1:08:36 Speaker 2: was a great housewife, that's a fact I really have.

1:08:38 Speaker 2: I thought that she has the right amount of flaws,

1:08:41 Speaker 2: the right amount of delusion, but also is really with

1:08:43 Speaker 2: it and doesn't care if she has allies or not,

1:08:45 Speaker 2: which may sit nice when women see her. You know,

1:08:48 Speaker 2: a couple of women see her differently in one season

1:08:50 Speaker 2: versus fighting with her the next.

1:08:52 Speaker 3: I've always liked Wendy.

1:08:53 Speaker 2: But I think she's ascending into some of my favorite,

1:08:56 Speaker 2: like top ten housewives this season, especially this reunion, she

1:09:00 Speaker 2: was like, girl, it's still my I love that. She's

1:09:03 Speaker 2: like my birthday. I love it. But it doesn't feel

1:09:05 Speaker 2: like meal self absorbed. It feels like she actually has

1:09:11 Speaker 2: I hate to say it, but the qualifications to back

1:09:14 Speaker 2: it up.

1:09:15 Speaker 3: She has the personality and.

1:09:18 Speaker 2: Like she has it all. She really does have that package.

1:09:22 Speaker 2: Her husband is fine, he's really sweet, he's a nice man.

1:09:28 Speaker 4: Hello, she's blessed. She has the best situation out of

1:09:32 Speaker 4: all of them.

1:09:33 Speaker 5: And yeah, I'm so grateful that she's just had this

1:09:37 Speaker 5: season to take a break and not have to be

1:09:39 Speaker 5: on the defense with everybody or half of people, or

1:09:43 Speaker 5: you know, just let her breathe, let her cook, let

1:09:46 Speaker 5: her be fun free.

1:09:48 Speaker 2: Wendy, you know, the only one that's married on the

1:09:53 Speaker 2: show right now. Joselle's not.

1:09:57 Speaker 3: She's not MEA's we don't know.

1:10:02 Speaker 2: Okay, back to that in the moments when I don't

1:10:09 Speaker 2: remember how he got to it, but when Jebelle said,

1:10:12 Speaker 2: when Andy said that Stacey was educated, and Jaelle said

1:10:16 Speaker 2: is she screamed number.

1:10:18 Speaker 4: Two one, I'm like, where is this from?

1:10:21 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Okay, I really wanted to know.

1:10:26 Speaker 4: Is she educated?

1:10:27 Speaker 2: Is that like something that she professes to be. Because

1:10:31 Speaker 2: we got Wendy's resume, we know she ran that down.

1:10:35 Speaker 2: We understand that, but I didn't know that Stacey was.

1:10:40 Speaker 2: And I think Stacey has exaggerated to other people. What

1:10:44 Speaker 2: do you think I did when something that when Stacey said,

1:10:50 Speaker 2: because when you said, you know, they got a degree.

1:10:51 Speaker 2: She's not degree, she's smart and Stacey said, yeah, no,

1:10:55 Speaker 2: he had a degree. And when he said r to

1:10:57 Speaker 2: because she was trying to like get her to caught to,

1:11:01 Speaker 2: I guess what she knows to be true?

1:11:03 Speaker 3: M H, Like, you know, go ahead, girl.

1:11:06 Speaker 2: You know, praise yourself. And she quickly pivoted from I'm

1:11:10 Speaker 2: smart and I've gotten degrees to and I'm also.

1:11:12 Speaker 3: Kind and passionate and nice, and I'm like, but.

1:11:18 Speaker 2: That's not what we're talking about.

1:11:19 Speaker 3: Does that say, oh, is she one of those smart girls?

1:11:22 Speaker 2: But does she profess to be the right for wan

1:11:25 Speaker 2: need to say that and think though you would, I'm

1:11:28 Speaker 2: just curious, like what evidence we have of that information?

1:11:31 Speaker 2: And though I think Dosetlle was the shadiest human on

1:11:33 Speaker 2: planet Earth, questions I'd like to know.

1:11:39 Speaker 5: Yeah, she could have answered it was very brand like

1:11:42 Speaker 5: differently we're asking you about like there's a clear direct answer.

1:11:47 Speaker 4: And we're not kidding it, like Brian, what do you

1:11:48 Speaker 4: do for a living? Sacy? You could have just said

1:11:51 Speaker 4: I went to this college or I got this degree,

1:11:53 Speaker 4: and she didn't.

1:11:54 Speaker 3: You're right, she did not, And I just wanted to

1:11:58 Speaker 3: know what is it? It's okay, Okay, so actually she

1:12:11 Speaker 3: got nothing.

1:12:13 Speaker 2: She got nothing. Why would you wave your right to alimony?

1:12:21 Speaker 4: Wild?

1:12:24 Speaker 5: It must be because she wants to still be on

1:12:26 Speaker 5: the show. Like clearly Michael didn't want her to talk

1:12:29 Speaker 5: about him on the show. I think she had to

1:12:31 Speaker 5: like kind of concession to keep that check.

1:12:34 Speaker 3: That makes sense.

1:12:36 Speaker 2: She didn't want maybe the alimony amount that she would

1:12:38 Speaker 2: have gotten, Maybe it wasn't It wouldn't be a sure

1:12:40 Speaker 2: thing if she wouldn't even got in alimony, and the

1:12:43 Speaker 2: damn sure wouldn't have been the same amount as you know,

1:12:45 Speaker 2: what she could make on the show and then her

1:12:47 Speaker 2: other ventures and endeavors and they don't need to talk

1:12:49 Speaker 2: about Michael. And you know we've seen it before. Girlies,

1:12:54 Speaker 2: you know, get that alimony and they can't talk about it.

1:12:57 Speaker 3: It happened to.

1:13:00 Speaker 2: That was a big you know situation is gradually, you know,

1:13:04 Speaker 2: Eddie Jordan big Man kept her rich and well so

1:13:07 Speaker 2: much that she left the show so that she could

1:13:09 Speaker 2: get that out on m H. And it was like, nah,

1:13:13 Speaker 2: it's more important than I get that check and stay

1:13:15 Speaker 2: on my Potomac home and I under stay in my

1:13:18 Speaker 2: champagne room. And we all have priorities, like that's it,

1:13:22 Speaker 2: you know. And I will say it's so interesting because

1:13:27 Speaker 2: the cult around it and the DMV is actually not

1:13:32 Speaker 2: well specifically, it's independent schools. So the cult around, like

1:13:37 Speaker 2: the culture and the cult like atmosphere that all these

1:13:41 Speaker 2: women are in is actually the independent school scene.

1:13:44 Speaker 3: It's not specifically like Potomac or it's based on like

1:13:47 Speaker 3: there's the school.

1:13:49 Speaker 2: The private schools around here are solely naturally because of

1:13:53 Speaker 2: you know, DC and everything, right, they're kwa expensive, Like

1:13:59 Speaker 2: your average good in private school here is going to

1:14:01 Speaker 2: be minimum twenty k a year, like minimum for high school.

1:14:06 Speaker 2: I mean with the school I was working at for

1:14:08 Speaker 2: third grade, like for elementary school. And because they go

1:14:12 Speaker 2: on to big schools and they know people go on

1:14:13 Speaker 2: to I don't know, be on the Supreme Court and

1:14:15 Speaker 2: Brick Cab and all, like he went to one of those.

1:14:18 Speaker 2: Like there's so many of them, Like that's like the

1:14:21 Speaker 2: it's a pipeline. It's like all of the people that

1:14:23 Speaker 2: me and my wife went to school with, we went

1:14:24 Speaker 2: to one of these independent schools on scholarship and our

1:14:27 Speaker 2: parents using our college funds because they're real people. But

1:14:31 Speaker 2: that's what them think they have to do to like

1:14:32 Speaker 2: get their kids ahead and put them in the same school.

1:14:34 Speaker 2: So these women having I know, the schools that each

1:14:38 Speaker 2: of these girls children went to, and that is the

1:14:41 Speaker 2: competitive edge that they actually have in the community. You

1:14:44 Speaker 2: compare schools, you're like like, oh, well, you know her

1:14:47 Speaker 2: daughter goes to Georgetown Prep.

1:14:48 Speaker 3: Oh well, hers go to Georgetown Day.

1:14:50 Speaker 2: Oh well, you know they had a really Georgetown because

1:14:53 Speaker 2: there are there's Georgetown Day, Prep and Visitation and they're

1:14:56 Speaker 2: all different and they all are like this this higher

1:15:00 Speaker 2: and the kind of girl that comes out of Georgetown

1:15:03 Speaker 2: Prep Day or Visitation. And then for the girls and

1:15:06 Speaker 2: then there's like really good schools like the make and

1:15:08 Speaker 2: they mean something like if people get into National Cathedra

1:15:11 Speaker 2: School in DC, right Byternational Cathater, that's a very big deal,

1:15:14 Speaker 2: but they only accept a certain amount. And I don't

1:15:16 Speaker 2: like black girls very much, right, so it's like we

1:15:19 Speaker 2: have like a couple of year. So but then just

1:15:21 Speaker 2: ause girls going to another school in a different area

1:15:25 Speaker 2: that they might mean you don't have as much many

1:15:29 Speaker 2: as the colies go to the other school, one of

1:15:32 Speaker 2: the georgetowns. It's forty six thousand or whatever, you know

1:15:36 Speaker 2: what I mean, Like there's thing and even though it's

1:15:38 Speaker 2: a small world, there's at least a three dozen of

1:15:44 Speaker 2: these kind of private, independent, really world renowned, very good

1:15:49 Speaker 2: private schools in this one area, right yes, and where

1:15:54 Speaker 2: you go matters, right, So that and even though they

1:15:58 Speaker 2: because they all live in the same area, we all

1:15:59 Speaker 2: live in the same wealthy you know, patoon Make DC,

1:16:02 Speaker 2: And like having money in Patomake means that you don't

1:16:04 Speaker 2: have as much money if you live if you have

1:16:06 Speaker 2: a sub over home in DC, which is to be

1:16:08 Speaker 2: placed the pricing or versus Great Falls, Virginia, which is

1:16:11 Speaker 2: gonna be bigger, but it's cheaper, so you're moving to

1:16:14 Speaker 2: Great Falls. It's like, hmm, that's interesting. You can't pay

1:16:17 Speaker 2: the property taxes? Like what is it like on the

1:16:20 Speaker 2: school districts over there? What is that? Like? What are

1:16:22 Speaker 2: you you're gonna commute? Like, is you're not a switching schools?

1:16:26 Speaker 2: Oh that's a bad idea, Like oh no, isn't she

1:16:29 Speaker 2: had such and such? So what is she gonna do?

1:16:31 Speaker 3: And that's how to talk to you, Like what is

1:16:32 Speaker 3: she gonna do? Switching schools? And it's granted on my

1:16:37 Speaker 3: good desk, And you know what.

1:16:39 Speaker 2: Happens if your mom goes to jail. You got to

1:16:41 Speaker 2: leave that school so good, and Karen's children aren't still

1:16:45 Speaker 2: going to school, That'd be very worried. I'm not gonna

1:16:49 Speaker 2: lie like so the fact that like that that suck.

1:16:53 Speaker 2: It sticks out to me because like Ashley not deciding

1:16:59 Speaker 2: to have you know, child support over like the support

1:17:04 Speaker 2: of staying in the environment that she was in is

1:17:08 Speaker 2: I think it actually says a lot because you have

1:17:10 Speaker 2: someone like Cherias where it was more important to her

1:17:12 Speaker 2: that she keep her lifestyle. Giselle too, the more important

1:17:15 Speaker 2: to her did she keep her lifestyle if they stay

1:17:18 Speaker 2: in Potomac, did they stay in their homes, if they

1:17:20 Speaker 2: stay with the same friends that because that and they

1:17:23 Speaker 2: just you know, live off well. Actually it wants to

1:17:25 Speaker 2: be fully divorced. She wants had nothing to do with Michael,

1:17:30 Speaker 2: but she wants him to pay to make sure his

1:17:32 Speaker 2: kids are okay, because that's his responsibility. But it seems

1:17:35 Speaker 2: that she doesn't want anything else from here.

1:17:38 Speaker 4: Just enough money to do like a naked photo shoot

1:17:42 Speaker 4: every quarter.

1:17:43 Speaker 2: You know, that's all she needs, No, and I you're

1:17:47 Speaker 2: gonna take my top off her fun every once in

1:17:49 Speaker 2: a while, every few months, and that's about it and

1:17:51 Speaker 2: I think that's really cute. See but she gets nothing

1:17:55 Speaker 2: we really hate to see it is me getting a divorce?

1:17:58 Speaker 2: What is it?

1:17:59 Speaker 3: What's going on?

1:18:00 Speaker 5: If we found out like Craig never went to law

1:18:04 Speaker 5: school but me and Gordon never legally married, I would

1:18:07 Speaker 5: not be surprised at this point.

1:18:09 Speaker 2: If you need, like, do you need to is it

1:18:14 Speaker 2: the or what's this whole thing with storyline? Which I

1:18:19 Speaker 2: fully believe I could see it in fact, if you

1:18:25 Speaker 2: to fake a divorce separation type of thing, right, the

1:18:35 Speaker 2: fact that we keep exploiting our family for this television show,

1:18:38 Speaker 2: the one, the boy you know, the next.

1:18:42 Speaker 3: Season and now the paternity out of the window, please Jackson,

1:18:48 Speaker 3: thank you.

1:18:49 Speaker 2: That's my son. He's a he's a dog, but you know,

1:18:52 Speaker 2: I love him so much and he wants to patrol

1:18:54 Speaker 2: the streets because he likes to tell people that I'm

1:18:57 Speaker 2: recording but doesn't know that that's loud. He Gordon. I

1:19:08 Speaker 2: thought he really divorcing him because he's bipolarish is confusing

1:19:11 Speaker 2: to me. It's giving it's because he doesn't have money

1:19:15 Speaker 2: right now or something. But then to not just make

1:19:19 Speaker 2: the divorce be the storyline, but specifically the paternity the

1:19:25 Speaker 2: fraternity of your chun. Right, you're gonna drag all these

1:19:29 Speaker 2: men through this son included weird, weird, diabolical, like why,

1:19:36 Speaker 2: Like part of me feels like they couldn't have known

1:19:39 Speaker 2: that much like that part of it, like is the

1:19:42 Speaker 2: man even if it was like I'm gonna fake divorce

1:19:43 Speaker 2: or whatever, I feel like she added this layer or

1:19:46 Speaker 2: something and it just to keep it interesting, or she

1:19:49 Speaker 2: is really getting a divorced and she just wants to

1:19:50 Speaker 2: hurt somebody because she's feeling upset. But it felt really

1:19:53 Speaker 2: diabolical to do that to two men and be like, well,

1:19:59 Speaker 2: to get one man's hopes so that it could be

1:20:01 Speaker 2: his son, and to.

1:20:03 Speaker 3: Devastate another man that the boy he's been raising is.

1:20:05 Speaker 4: Not his son, right, And these topics are so deep

1:20:10 Speaker 4: and so like, I just don't know how.

1:20:16 Speaker 5: You know, there are situations where like, did you watch

1:20:19 Speaker 5: that documentary on Peacock about that lady who wrote for

1:20:22 Speaker 5: A Gray's Anatomy and she was lying about a bunch

1:20:25 Speaker 5: of stuff like having cancer and all that.

1:20:28 Speaker 3: Listen to the podcast, saw the other one on Netflix.

1:20:33 Speaker 5: Yes, it's those situations where you can't question, like you

1:20:39 Speaker 5: don't want to be the one who questions somebody who

1:20:41 Speaker 5: says that they have cancer. You know, MIA keeps throwing

1:20:45 Speaker 5: situations where it's like uncomfortable to question, why are you

1:20:48 Speaker 5: talking about your child's paternity, Why are you talking about

1:20:51 Speaker 5: Gordon's mental health?

1:20:52 Speaker 4: Like is he okay?

1:20:54 Speaker 5: Like every time you get called out for something, you

1:20:56 Speaker 5: act like Gordon's crashing out, and we're just supposed to

1:21:00 Speaker 5: accept that and not question it because you're like alluding

1:21:03 Speaker 5: to dark things going on, and I don't really know

1:21:06 Speaker 5: if they're happening as frequently as you're alluding to, Like

1:21:10 Speaker 5: he can have that diagnosis. Nobody's denying that, but Yo,

1:21:14 Speaker 5: the fact that you're acting like every fifteen minutes there's

1:21:16 Speaker 5: an episode, I don't think there is or has been.

1:21:19 Speaker 2: And also him getting that diagnosis. You've been married to

1:21:23 Speaker 2: him long enough to have noticed if he you know,

1:21:26 Speaker 2: whatever manifestations of that diagnosis that he may have, there's

1:21:32 Speaker 2: a reason why he got the diagnosis, you know what

1:21:34 Speaker 2: I mean? And why you seek the treatment. No one's

1:21:36 Speaker 2: walking around just saying, hey, you you have bipolar disorder.

1:21:39 Speaker 2: Something has to happen, so in which case him getting

1:21:42 Speaker 2: this diagnosis, are you saying that you notice now and

1:21:45 Speaker 2: then you divorcing him for whatever reason. The Tommy does

1:21:47 Speaker 2: seem sus because you're saying that he's crashing out now

1:21:50 Speaker 2: every five minutes, but like that hadn't been the case

1:21:52 Speaker 2: the last few years that we've been seeing y'all on

1:21:55 Speaker 2: the shelf. You weren't saying it then, or he needs something,

1:21:57 Speaker 2: he needs help, and none of that, which I'm like,

1:21:59 Speaker 2: to be honest me, if that was.

1:22:01 Speaker 3: The case, I fully believe you would have exploited it.

1:22:03 Speaker 2: So I'm kind of shocked you didn't. Thank you your

1:22:06 Speaker 2: crack hand mama. You brought up her seventeen old year

1:22:10 Speaker 2: old revelition, right, yeah, they taking care of you know,

1:22:15 Speaker 2: your babies, right head. It's a joguins and Jack exactly.

1:22:21 Speaker 3: You threw then the.

1:22:22 Speaker 2: About the the you know, the husband and the things

1:22:25 Speaker 2: a couple of years, like it's not if it was true,

1:22:28 Speaker 2: I feel like you would have just already threw him

1:22:31 Speaker 2: under their dance. And now you're saying the bus just

1:22:33 Speaker 2: got here after ten years in marriage and you want

1:22:36 Speaker 2: to get on it and roll away, right.

1:22:38 Speaker 4: It's it's getting weird.

1:22:42 Speaker 2: I feel bad for Ain't. That's the only person I

1:22:44 Speaker 2: really feel bad for important too, but really ain't. I

1:22:47 Speaker 2: just don't feel like he knew. There's no way he

1:22:50 Speaker 2: kned to the extent of all this. But I don't

1:22:51 Speaker 2: think he would have given a fuck that much. There

1:22:53 Speaker 2: would not be enough in it for him for him

1:22:55 Speaker 2: to be like, Okay, so I'm gonna go on this show.

1:22:58 Speaker 2: What you will pretend being your boyfriend, ORM gonna fake

1:23:00 Speaker 2: date you while you fake, you know, leave your husband,

1:23:02 Speaker 2: and then we're gonna go about seeing is it you

1:23:04 Speaker 2: think it's math?

1:23:05 Speaker 3: And I just don't think that the I think the

1:23:07 Speaker 3: person to.

1:23:08 Speaker 2: Blame here is Mia and the collateral damage is both

1:23:11 Speaker 2: and in but inc like, really he had nothing to

1:23:14 Speaker 2: do with this, But you've never met this man. He

1:23:17 Speaker 2: did not need to be here and be dragged to

1:23:18 Speaker 2: all of this. I agree.

1:23:21 Speaker 5: It's I don't know what is going on in MIA's

1:23:24 Speaker 5: mind that any of this would be accepted. Like I'm

1:23:28 Speaker 5: constantly wondering, what was your next move? Okay, so you

1:23:30 Speaker 5: did your big one step one? What was step two? Maya,

1:23:34 Speaker 5: what was step two.

1:23:37 Speaker 3: Establishing the father?

1:23:38 Speaker 2: And then what right? So then what and your son

1:23:42 Speaker 2: finds out because his school friend's moms in the carpool

1:23:49 Speaker 2: line are all talking to each other and then they

1:23:52 Speaker 2: find out they you know, it comes out that I

1:23:54 Speaker 2: heard of Betty match your daddy? Right?

1:23:58 Speaker 3: What was the goal?

1:23:59 Speaker 4: Like what?

1:23:59 Speaker 2: I just don't understand because the exploitation of our family

1:24:02 Speaker 2: for a check is wild, wild, wild, especially our son.

1:24:08 Speaker 2: And you know what, I will say this, and I

1:24:12 Speaker 2: don't want to put too much strain or light on it,

1:24:14 Speaker 2: but it's interesting.

1:24:15 Speaker 3: To me that it keeps being her first born.

1:24:21 Speaker 2: The drama, the mess or the stuff keeps being around

1:24:25 Speaker 2: her first born, like you know, the mom babysitting or

1:24:28 Speaker 2: you know, Jacqueline being the man, or when near got

1:24:30 Speaker 2: pregnant or now who the praternity, you know, who the

1:24:33 Speaker 2: dad is for this time, it just it feels like

1:24:35 Speaker 2: we talk and spend a lot of time with him

1:24:38 Speaker 2: and on him, and I just worry about, you know,

1:24:40 Speaker 2: the impact, the long term impacts that that's gonna make

1:24:43 Speaker 2: with him being now old enough to really have a

1:24:48 Speaker 2: wherewithal of what is you know, what is being said

1:24:52 Speaker 2: and done, but also it's gonna have impact and feelings

1:24:55 Speaker 2: on him, whether he can address them or unpack them

1:24:58 Speaker 2: or not. And emotional regularly seems like something that doesn't

1:25:01 Speaker 2: really queue up in that family household.

1:25:05 Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like we have a lot of that.

1:25:07 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I wonder if the reason why the firstborn

1:25:12 Speaker 5: keeps coming up is because I don't know much about

1:25:15 Speaker 5: I don't know anything about the father. But I'm wondering

1:25:17 Speaker 5: if you're just saying that stuff because she knows he's

1:25:20 Speaker 5: not gonna say anything, you know, uh huh, because she

1:25:24 Speaker 5: knows that the day you know, retort or clap back

1:25:27 Speaker 5: or anything.

1:25:28 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't like it. It feels very weird. I

1:25:33 Speaker 2: hesitate because I actually don't know a season what it

1:25:38 Speaker 2: would look like. I have high hopes and in optimism

1:25:41 Speaker 2: for what a season without Miya, But at the moment,

1:25:45 Speaker 2: I don't think that, you know, if she's willing to

1:25:47 Speaker 2: be this kind of target practice, you know, well she

1:25:56 Speaker 2: showed up, Like what do we do.

1:26:01 Speaker 5: The only thing that I can hope is unlike brand

1:26:04 Speaker 5: I feel like the ladies are clocking Mia now so

1:26:08 Speaker 5: that it has gotten pretty dark, but it's not gonna

1:26:13 Speaker 5: get as dark as dark.

1:26:15 Speaker 4: It's pretty dark.

1:26:16 Speaker 3: It's really out of control, like Mia.

1:26:19 Speaker 2: They're like, girl, it was one thing with your mama

1:26:22 Speaker 2: and then you know this and that, and now we're

1:26:25 Speaker 2: talking about your son again.

1:26:26 Speaker 3: And bored and it's divorce.

1:26:29 Speaker 2: And paternity and and and like are you but yeah,

1:26:33 Speaker 2: you keep smiling and being like I'm good, but then

1:26:35 Speaker 2: you like, please don't hold me out. I'm going through

1:26:38 Speaker 2: a lot. What what.

1:26:41 Speaker 3: I don't understand?

1:26:42 Speaker 2: And I don't like it before we get into the

1:26:45 Speaker 2: Miami thing because we can keep going with Mia g

1:26:48 Speaker 2: and A is getting she by. You're right, That's all

1:26:50 Speaker 2: I wanted to say about that.

1:26:51 Speaker 4: Oh it's summer at leisure, even even kinder than I

1:26:57 Speaker 4: was gonna put it. I feel like they don't even

1:27:03 Speaker 4: know what it is. This is another thing that they

1:27:05 Speaker 4: don't know.

1:27:06 Speaker 2: They just want to hang out and get a w two.

1:27:10 Speaker 5: Like I'm not going how Ashley was like, well, I

1:27:14 Speaker 5: went into the situation knowing that I wasn't really trying

1:27:18 Speaker 5: to put any money into this, Like so, what did

1:27:20 Speaker 5: you start the business for and now you're saying you're

1:27:23 Speaker 5: a liaison.

1:27:24 Speaker 2: What so you said so your nonprofit and the fact

1:27:29 Speaker 2: of them at the same time answered incorrectly like not

1:27:33 Speaker 2: insane answer was wild to me.

1:27:35 Speaker 3: It's well when we said it up that we don't

1:27:37 Speaker 3: know what we're doing here, because.

1:27:39 Speaker 2: One it was like no fashion and I was like yes,

1:27:47 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, so spring summer athleasure got it?

1:27:52 Speaker 2: So mean it's a bad friend period. I want to

1:27:58 Speaker 2: say me, it's not just a bad friend, or she

1:28:01 Speaker 2: is not a bad friend, she's a narcissist. And there's difference.

1:28:05 Speaker 3: I'm not a diagnostician.

1:28:07 Speaker 2: I cannot tell you the truth just in being that

1:28:10 Speaker 2: I'm sensitive to narcissistic people. I actually don't know that

1:28:14 Speaker 2: to be true with her. But it's like the the

1:28:16 Speaker 2: empathy is lacking, but the ability to tap into our

1:28:20 Speaker 2: emotions is like right there when convenient and necessary, And

1:28:26 Speaker 2: that feels it feels a little cringey sometimes, like especially

1:28:32 Speaker 2: because like when you see that other people, when you

1:28:35 Speaker 2: instant feeling people are gonna have a bigger support and

1:28:39 Speaker 2: empathy for the people that you hurt or ghosted accidentally

1:28:43 Speaker 2: or you know, for your own selfish reasons. You gotta

1:28:46 Speaker 2: pivot quickly because you don't you can't handle the feedback.

1:28:50 Speaker 2: So she had to apologize immediately, but she knew it

1:28:53 Speaker 2: with Endemy enough to just say sorry. And to what

1:28:56 Speaker 2: we're referring to me, apparently celebrated her birthday in Miami

1:28:59 Speaker 2: or something, and.

1:29:03 Speaker 3: She invited who was it Karen.

1:29:05 Speaker 2: And Stacey and Stacey and Jazzy, and they went to Miami.

1:29:13 Speaker 2: They told her immediately asked like Stacey immediately RCP sty immediately,

1:29:18 Speaker 2: Na tried to. I suppose she didn't just look it

1:29:20 Speaker 2: up first so she could get her story strength. But

1:29:23 Speaker 2: she came in high and on the defensive at first,

1:29:25 Speaker 2: like they come. They were like, we literally said immediately

1:29:28 Speaker 2: were coming, and she's like anything here, She's like, I catched.

1:29:32 Speaker 3: You where we landed. I can't make it to this,

1:29:35 Speaker 3: but I'll be there for that with time like and

1:29:38 Speaker 3: then when I got up.

1:29:39 Speaker 5: The POC and and she didn't really know who was coming,

1:29:44 Speaker 5: who always showed up or not because.

1:29:45 Speaker 4: She had a POC and that wasn't really her. That

1:29:47 Speaker 4: doesn't make any sense. If you're planning any kind of trip,

1:29:51 Speaker 4: you were going to talk to the host at some point,

1:29:54 Speaker 4: some comment to be made like can't wait, girl.

1:29:58 Speaker 2: POC exactly just gonna like it and never speak to

1:30:01 Speaker 2: you again about it. The PLC is the person I'm

1:30:05 Speaker 2: talking to because I'm going on the trip, and I

1:30:07 Speaker 2: told you that, like you're telling me about the point

1:30:10 Speaker 2: of contact because I said, oh my god, can't wait,

1:30:13 Speaker 2: I'm coming I'll see you. They're beautiful, and she's so sorry.

1:30:16 Speaker 2: That was Mia acknowledging her attendance and saying can't wait

1:30:19 Speaker 2: to celebrate with you, beautiful, right and contact.

1:30:24 Speaker 4: What is the point of a point of context if

1:30:26 Speaker 4: it's not to be the go between between the guests

1:30:29 Speaker 4: and the.

1:30:29 Speaker 2: Hook right, And all you had to do was be like,

1:30:31 Speaker 2: oh my god, I would have thrown it on that

1:30:32 Speaker 2: person so heavy. She messed up.

1:30:36 Speaker 3: I am so sorry that that happened to you.

1:30:37 Speaker 2: Ladies.

1:30:38 Speaker 3: I'm actually so embarrassed. Like I would have.

1:30:39 Speaker 2: Believed you were the victim. Then I could at least

1:30:41 Speaker 2: little bit blame it on him and then be like,

1:30:44 Speaker 2: I'm just owning it. You can't go on the defensive

1:30:46 Speaker 2: and then be like, no, we have to proof and

1:30:48 Speaker 2: then be like, okay, well, I'm so sorry.

1:30:51 Speaker 3: I'm going for a lot. I'm Sully.

1:30:54 Speaker 2: Nothing to do with nothing, girl. Please, no, these tears

1:30:58 Speaker 2: don't make sense. She was like I was in Miami,

1:30:59 Speaker 2: I got ghosted. I have a child.

1:31:02 Speaker 3: Hello, I'm a single mother right now, that not even filming.

1:31:06 Speaker 2: I literally came to support you because I thought we

1:31:08 Speaker 2: were friends and had a good time this season.

1:31:11 Speaker 5: What is that to see like, I don't have the capacity. No,

1:31:15 Speaker 5: that's not the I don't have the capacity behavior. You

1:31:17 Speaker 5: don't have your friends fly out of state to come

1:31:20 Speaker 5: see you.

1:31:21 Speaker 2: You wouldn't have had a party in the handy if

1:31:23 Speaker 2: you don't have the capacity to be a good friend

1:31:25 Speaker 2: right now.

1:31:26 Speaker 5: You got the capacity to hop on a flight and

1:31:29 Speaker 5: and do all white night and all black night. You

1:31:32 Speaker 5: got a wardrobe, but you don't have the capacity to

1:31:36 Speaker 5: be nice to the people who attend.

1:31:39 Speaker 3: Protect someone back and say we're here, or I'm running late.

1:31:43 Speaker 2: Tell Serrie, tell you dot camp on a contact to

1:31:45 Speaker 2: do it great. Hey late, I'm on my body chain, like,

1:31:57 Speaker 2: oh you gotta do like, hey, girls are running behind,

1:31:59 Speaker 2: I'm tunding me. It's just two girls, like you know

1:32:02 Speaker 2: of those two And and I feel bad for Stacey

1:32:05 Speaker 2: because when Mia is having a heart to take accountability,

1:32:09 Speaker 2: it's like she really wanted to go and manipulate the

1:32:10 Speaker 2: situation further.

1:32:11 Speaker 3: So when they break to go to you know, their room.

1:32:14 Speaker 2: She goes to Stacey to talk to Stacey and Jacke

1:32:17 Speaker 2: because you need they're going to be talking about it,

1:32:19 Speaker 2: and she was. She didn't want to continue to be

1:32:21 Speaker 2: confronted about it, so she decided to, you know, inject

1:32:25 Speaker 2: herself in there to see it. They could squash it

1:32:27 Speaker 2: or whatever, she could apologize. It felt like the timing

1:32:30 Speaker 2: felt manipulative. You had time to apologize and get over

1:32:33 Speaker 2: this and talk about this, you really did, and now

1:32:36 Speaker 2: you're doing it right after you got called out and

1:32:39 Speaker 2: they're hurt. And I understand why they are hurt. I

1:32:42 Speaker 2: would hate to have been ghosted while I'm in a

1:32:44 Speaker 2: city to hang out with a friend. That would really

1:32:47 Speaker 2: hurt my feelings, Like, yeah, the rejection sensitivity is crazy.

1:32:53 Speaker 2: I'd be.

1:32:55 Speaker 3: Devastated.

1:32:56 Speaker 2: And it is not a cheap or short flight, right.

1:33:01 Speaker 4: Even like is she okay? Are you safe?

1:33:04 Speaker 2: Like we're so Stacy really tried to get to the

1:33:09 Speaker 2: bottom of it and be like, so why did you

1:33:11 Speaker 2: ghost us? Like I truly want to know if you

1:33:13 Speaker 2: want to say it's for your man, even want to

1:33:15 Speaker 2: say like I wanted to get none, you know, right,

1:33:17 Speaker 2: I was trying to catch them and get that vitamin me,

1:33:20 Speaker 2: Like you want to hang out with my kni You

1:33:22 Speaker 2: know I had a problem.

1:33:25 Speaker 4: Mmmm if you.

1:33:26 Speaker 2: Were being honest like you because the damage has been done,

1:33:28 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like I'm already upset about it,

1:33:31 Speaker 2: so at least be honest with me. Don't say you

1:33:33 Speaker 2: had a point of contact. Don't say that I didn't

1:33:35 Speaker 2: tell you.

1:33:35 Speaker 3: Tell me, you know what.

1:33:37 Speaker 2: I really was excited, but then he showed up and

1:33:40 Speaker 2: change the plane. You're right, getting mad, and then all

1:33:44 Speaker 2: of a sudden, I was like for dinner.

1:33:46 Speaker 5: Right, yep, Yeah, that's fair because at this point it's

1:33:49 Speaker 5: like what's done is done, so you might as well

1:33:50 Speaker 5: just like tell the truth off to it.

1:33:53 Speaker 2: So to say I don't have the capacity to be

1:33:54 Speaker 2: a friend right now, No, no, no, I'm not saying

1:33:56 Speaker 2: I need you to show up for me at my

1:33:59 Speaker 2: house bed but I'm crying going through a divorce. I'm

1:34:02 Speaker 2: not saying you had to spend every moment with me

1:34:04 Speaker 2: and that we were supposed to go to the bar

1:34:05 Speaker 2: and you left me to go hang out with a

1:34:06 Speaker 2: man or whatever. I'm saying you did not respond to

1:34:10 Speaker 2: my text or calls the whole time I was there

1:34:13 Speaker 2: to see you, I did not see you. And I

1:34:17 Speaker 2: was there to see and celebrate you per your invitation,

1:34:23 Speaker 2: right and you refuse to communicate with me. Hello, was

1:34:28 Speaker 2: already there, like like the just drive home. This was

1:34:30 Speaker 2: in a restaurant that I was just late to I'm

1:34:32 Speaker 2: in another.

1:34:32 Speaker 4: City right, another state?

1:34:36 Speaker 2: What. I don't have the capacity to be a good friend.

1:34:39 Speaker 2: You don't have the capacity to send a text message.

1:34:43 Speaker 4: None of this makes any sense. I'm not understanding any

1:34:46 Speaker 4: of it.

1:34:47 Speaker 5: And she has had so much time to come up

1:34:49 Speaker 5: with an answer, and you being like, right, that's sad, Daby.

1:34:57 Speaker 2: That's sad. I am not a diabolical by pathological liar,

1:35:02 Speaker 2: and I can think of at least three better excuses

1:35:06 Speaker 2: to at least band aid or pacify the situation. I'm sorry,

1:35:11 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, and he's just look at Sacy. I want

1:35:13 Speaker 2: to ask you be texting? I am sorry, I am

1:35:16 Speaker 2: I'm like you weren't just three seconds ago. Obviously this

1:35:19 Speaker 2: wasn't top of mine, and it should have been. You

1:35:21 Speaker 2: should have been like, they're gonna come at me about this,

1:35:23 Speaker 2: and what is my response? And it should not be

1:35:26 Speaker 2: the defensive. It should have just been like, go on

1:35:28 Speaker 2: the offense. I did ghostoot. Let me say, why blame

1:35:31 Speaker 2: it on the mag and no one goes.

1:35:35 Speaker 4: Throw the apple box under the busy.

1:35:40 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get my you know what I was

1:35:44 Speaker 2: birthday turn up? Okay, it was Miami and he surprised me.

1:35:48 Speaker 2: And if I chose do I want to spend your

1:35:51 Speaker 2: time with my new girlfriend or do I not, people

1:35:56 Speaker 2: will respect that or at least be like, oh my god,

1:35:58 Speaker 2: girls like and showed up, but he's here, or whatever,

1:36:02 Speaker 2: I'm running late, or can we do brunch tomorrow? Like whatever, anything,

1:36:06 Speaker 2: anything would have been better than just not responding to

1:36:09 Speaker 2: them when it came all that way, you know, to

1:36:11 Speaker 2: hang out with you and Stacey thought, she, you know,

1:36:14 Speaker 2: these are these are new friends. They thought they you know,

1:36:16 Speaker 2: we made a friend, made a connection, and but they're

1:36:18 Speaker 2: you know, hanging out after the show that probably feels

1:36:21 Speaker 2: really good and it's solidifying for their next steps on

1:36:24 Speaker 2: the show. And then here you go. Weird me is

1:36:29 Speaker 2: a strange individual and there I don't know if it's

1:36:33 Speaker 2: strange or again it's in which case it presents, especially

1:36:38 Speaker 2: in women, it presents like things a lot because they

1:36:42 Speaker 2: can turn the charm on really well, like they're charming,

1:36:44 Speaker 2: and because they have a decent personality or like, you know,

1:36:47 Speaker 2: they're charming and they don't they feel disarming, like not

1:36:49 Speaker 2: to say like Mia is so charming and suave or

1:36:52 Speaker 2: anything like that, but it's like they don't seem evil necessarily,

1:36:56 Speaker 2: so their actions just don't make sense. So you're just like,

1:37:00 Speaker 2: I don't get that never happens back from you, that

1:37:01 Speaker 2: you would do this to me, that you could do

1:37:03 Speaker 2: you would hurt me or be this selfish.

1:37:05 Speaker 3: But that's really all it is.

1:37:07 Speaker 2: That self absorption is wild, like that lack of consideration

1:37:10 Speaker 2: for how someone else is gonna feel.

1:37:12 Speaker 3: That inability to access empathy and consequences of your.

1:37:16 Speaker 2: Actions while making the choice is what checks off some

1:37:20 Speaker 2: boxes that we need to go see some additional help

1:37:24 Speaker 2: and support and whatever it is that you say you're

1:37:27 Speaker 2: going through right now, because it's greatly impacting the relationships

1:37:30 Speaker 2: in your life and how you move through the world.

1:37:32 Speaker 4: It's not well, go talk to the lady, please and

1:37:36 Speaker 4: go talk.

1:37:36 Speaker 3: To the lady.

1:37:38 Speaker 2: Don't talk to a lady. Go talk to the DNA man.

1:37:42 Speaker 2: Go talk to the divorce attorney. Go talk to the

1:37:45 Speaker 2: past and go talk to body child.

1:37:47 Speaker 3: Go talk to somebody, because I really felt bad for

1:37:50 Speaker 3: Stacey in that moment untill we saw the preview for

1:37:57 Speaker 3: part two.

1:37:58 Speaker 2: Baby and Eddie, bring Eddie out. Bringing Eddie got to

1:38:09 Speaker 2: a seat, he said, hey girl, Whitey me and go

1:38:13 Speaker 2: cy do you not just imagine like Eddie and when

1:38:16 Speaker 2: he like cracking the fuck up about what the really

1:38:18 Speaker 2: saying in that it's so much fun talking ship puffing

1:38:25 Speaker 2: a little happy Eddie and being like, yo, did you

1:38:27 Speaker 2: know what yourself said?

1:38:28 Speaker 3: And it was like I just dn't be a good friend.

1:38:31 Speaker 2: Oh go by. I love him so much so the

1:38:36 Speaker 2: fact that he texted his wife and was like, baby,

1:38:39 Speaker 2: let me tell you something. We justj Hey, guess what

1:38:44 Speaker 2: we found out? Excellent work, excellent work, Eddie raised he

1:38:48 Speaker 2: is the new Joe. I love it.

1:38:51 Speaker 3: I can I want it more. I cannot wait. Get

1:38:55 Speaker 3: Eddie on the phone.

1:38:56 Speaker 2: Is he here, bring him out? We're chair what do

1:38:59 Speaker 2: we know? Let's talk about it, Eddie. Because I don't

1:39:02 Speaker 2: believe that Stacey and TJ were ever a real thing,

1:39:04 Speaker 2: and I do believe that there is more to arravel

1:39:06 Speaker 2: about Stacy, which is also why I say give that

1:39:09 Speaker 2: lady her contract first, because she messy in a new way, right.

1:39:14 Speaker 4: I cannot wait to see, like, because how does this happen?

1:39:18 Speaker 5: Because TJ and that little you know mess shirt where

1:39:21 Speaker 5: unwatched what happens lives?

1:39:23 Speaker 2: I got right, Yeah, whatever a little arrangement they've got

1:39:33 Speaker 2: he must be trying to start being a life coach

1:39:35 Speaker 2: or something.

1:39:36 Speaker 3: We need his face out there. I had no idea,

1:39:39 Speaker 3: but it was absolutely getting Walter. I didn't get it.

1:39:46 Speaker 3: I felt no chemistry.

1:39:47 Speaker 2: And there were many times in one of my notes,

1:39:49 Speaker 2: like part of the reason why I would skip through

1:39:50 Speaker 2: her things because I'm like that man don't like you,

1:39:52 Speaker 2: and I can't handle it.

1:39:54 Speaker 4: Right he doesn't.

1:39:55 Speaker 2: I don't like watching it. He don't like you at all.

1:39:59 Speaker 2: And that is like a I hate you.

1:40:00 Speaker 3: Wait, I think he doesn't.

1:40:01 Speaker 2: Give a shit about you, and that's worse. He's like, hey, yeah,

1:40:05 Speaker 2: you know, I gotta go do this thing work out

1:40:07 Speaker 2: with this client, like that kind of thing. It's not

1:40:10 Speaker 2: It wasn't giving what you wanted it to give, Stacy.

1:40:13 Speaker 2: It was like, well, I hope I'm not dating forever.

1:40:15 Speaker 2: We just have to wait until a marriage to have sex.

1:40:17 Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry, are you saying that you think you'll

1:40:20 Speaker 2: be marrying this man? And then that's when like, wait, yeah,

1:40:25 Speaker 2: you're not even divorced, and this man really wants to

1:40:27 Speaker 2: speak to you. He is, and he is voluntarily giving

1:40:30 Speaker 2: up the opportunity to have sex with you. Oh okay,

1:40:35 Speaker 2: and you're and you want to you want to parade

1:40:38 Speaker 2: this on the show. This is what you want to

1:40:40 Speaker 2: bring in your plus one? This one okay for sure? Okay,

1:40:46 Speaker 2: well listen, Stacy, if you like it. I love it

1:40:48 Speaker 2: because whatever Eddie got to stay. I'm seated. I'm set, set, absolutely.

1:40:54 Speaker 2: But I just bought literally, swear to god, this is

1:40:56 Speaker 2: not even a joke. Just as I was finishing it,

1:41:00 Speaker 2: ordered Raville Popcorn with a box of popcorn to get here.

1:41:05 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, we'll need that for Sunday. Like

1:41:07 Speaker 2: it's coming the time you're hearing this, they're Part two

1:41:12 Speaker 2: will be coming up next, so I can't wait to

1:41:16 Speaker 2: talk about that. It's sounds like we are only going

1:41:18 Speaker 2: up from here, and I'm ready. I am set. I

1:41:21 Speaker 2: will have my happy Eddy, support that black owned business, Hanny,

1:41:24 Speaker 2: you and bring Eddie out. Let's get it copping with

1:41:28 Speaker 2: all that we saw in Part one. And it was

1:41:31 Speaker 2: like less sinister, more fun, more messy, more shady than

1:41:34 Speaker 2: Salt Lake City. And I actually like Salt Lake City

1:41:36 Speaker 2: Part one reunion. I'm excited.

1:41:38 Speaker 3: I think we're doing great and we're gonna have a

1:41:40 Speaker 3: nice time.

1:41:42 Speaker 4: I'm so excited, I really am.

1:41:44 Speaker 2: I can't wait. I'm so glad to be watching You know,

1:41:48 Speaker 2: the Bravo is faring from all cylinders right now, Kender,

1:41:52 Speaker 2: what else are you watching? What else are you is

1:41:54 Speaker 2: giving you joy as you try to escape and disassociate

1:41:58 Speaker 2: from this stuff.

1:42:01 Speaker 4: I am really loving Southern hospitality.

1:42:04 Speaker 5: I have to say, watching the itch that vander pump

1:42:08 Speaker 5: Old vander pump Roles was, it's it's messy. If you

1:42:11 Speaker 5: guys don't watch it, I would recommend binging it. I

1:42:15 Speaker 5: think it's like a very good binge show.

1:42:17 Speaker 3: You might not like it from the beginning this season.

1:42:20 Speaker 5: I am a completionist, so I always recommend the beginning,

1:42:25 Speaker 5: but I don't really think there's like a ton of

1:42:27 Speaker 5: history that you really need to know if you just

1:42:30 Speaker 5: want to hop in on season three.

1:42:32 Speaker 2: Okay, so, okay, nice?

1:42:37 Speaker 3: What else anything else are you watching? Traders?

1:42:40 Speaker 5: I'm loving Traders. I'm not caught up, but yeah, I'm

1:42:44 Speaker 5: having a good time. I'm like missing Sierra I am.

1:42:49 Speaker 5: I will never say that I'm enjoying watching Sandoval, but I.

1:42:54 Speaker 2: It seems like the producers had a conversation with him.

1:42:56 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.

1:42:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, he stopped sweating and he started performing.

1:43:01 Speaker 5: I'm still laughing at him, but I will say that

1:43:03 Speaker 5: I'm laughing, Oh for sure, yes.

1:43:05 Speaker 2: I mean it feels familiar, like we're back to laughing

1:43:07 Speaker 2: at this time. This is the time that we've been

1:43:09 Speaker 2: laughing at Oh boy, you're just not that right, and

1:43:12 Speaker 2: you're a little bit of a do fish and are

1:43:14 Speaker 2: you okay? Like he's like baring his head like okay, honey.

1:43:20 Speaker 2: So I'm glad that we're doing that. He's talking because

1:43:22 Speaker 2: like for at least two episodes, we didn't even know

1:43:25 Speaker 2: he was there unless he was in the breakfast room

1:43:28 Speaker 2: just sweating his ass off, right, he did not speak

1:43:31 Speaker 2: or anything.

1:43:32 Speaker 3: So I'm also loving Traders.

1:43:34 Speaker 2: I'm having a harder time this season than I did

1:43:37 Speaker 2: last season. I think the lack of us getting rid

1:43:41 Speaker 2: of some let me say, he's like the lack of diversity,

1:43:44 Speaker 2: us getting rid of some of that colorful characters. So

1:43:46 Speaker 2: early I was worried about and I think that was

1:43:48 Speaker 2: correct because now we're strictly gameplay, which is fine. It's

1:43:52 Speaker 2: just that I could watch Survivor for this, but let's go.

1:43:57 Speaker 2: I just you know, the purpose of me watching the

1:44:00 Speaker 2: really wanted to see these people who were unsuspecting, not

1:44:04 Speaker 2: know how to figure out, you know what I mean,

1:44:06 Speaker 2: the kind of figure this out, not be left with

1:44:09 Speaker 2: the people who are suspecting actually incorrectly, just suss out

1:44:12 Speaker 2: the wrong people. I would like to have seen Jorinda

1:44:17 Speaker 2: go crazy. I would like to have seen Delores be

1:44:19 Speaker 2: you know, accused of being a trader more than once,

1:44:23 Speaker 2: because she does not like being called rat or whatever.

1:44:26 Speaker 3: And I just wanted more. I just I and I

1:44:29 Speaker 3: wanted more, you know.

1:44:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you, I'm with you.

1:44:33 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm also watching Kardashian's in the background want to

1:44:36 Speaker 2: do work, which is nice. It's good to hear that

1:44:38 Speaker 2: focal fry while I'm having my coffee. Chloe's still very

1:44:43 Speaker 2: in love with Lamar, so that's interesting, even though she

1:44:47 Speaker 2: says she's not. But the opposite of love is not hate,

1:44:50 Speaker 2: it's difference, and she is not that, so God bless her.

1:44:55 Speaker 2: Malika will never understand why she is so sold out

1:44:58 Speaker 2: to Lamar. But I always loved Lamar, and I love

1:45:00 Speaker 2: Chloe and Lamar, and I think that Chloe is not

1:45:03 Speaker 2: a great as great a you know, she's not my

1:45:05 Speaker 2: favorite Kardashian, but I she did move up a level

1:45:07 Speaker 2: where she was with that man. Even though he put

1:45:10 Speaker 2: her through.

1:45:10 Speaker 3: Hell so interesting go along what's going along with them?

1:45:15 Speaker 2: But you know, they're the fact that he's even there

1:45:17 Speaker 2: in filming this season like nights like and listen.

1:45:21 Speaker 3: He was late, he still showed.

1:45:23 Speaker 2: Up me what is it?

1:45:26 Speaker 3: And Lamar is a former.

1:45:27 Speaker 2: Drug addict, okay, and his anxiety was like I can't

1:45:31 Speaker 2: handle it. I can't be a froom right now. But

1:45:33 Speaker 2: he was like, I'm just to come in now.

1:45:36 Speaker 3: What is your excuse? Mess Mia, I just have that question.

1:45:40 Speaker 5: And I last, but not least, but oh, I was

1:45:43 Speaker 5: gonna say I I've retired my mouth when it comes

1:45:45 Speaker 5: to Kardashians.

1:45:47 Speaker 3: However, I understand you go to work for a long time.

1:45:50 Speaker 5: I did, But yeah, I mean I did feel like

1:45:53 Speaker 5: the interaction between Chloe and Lamar was it was heavy.

1:45:57 Speaker 4: I mean, he was clearly very nervous. I Malika always

1:46:02 Speaker 4: wants to be a part and I find that very annoying,

1:46:04 Speaker 4: Like she just right with the on it, like girl, please, well.

1:46:11 Speaker 2: Your best friend is constantly telling me that she's over it,

1:46:14 Speaker 2: which is also it leads me to believe like is

1:46:16 Speaker 2: that not true? And you know that because otherwise that

1:46:18 Speaker 2: is rude.

1:46:20 Speaker 4: Yeah, And she did the same thing with.

1:46:22 Speaker 5: Tristan, like constantly pushing Chloe to get back with him,

1:46:27 Speaker 5: And there was an episode where he I think this

1:46:30 Speaker 5: was like before he had gotten another lady pregnant and

1:46:34 Speaker 5: she got the surrogate pregnant with the son. This was

1:46:37 Speaker 5: in between he was trying to get back together and

1:46:40 Speaker 5: they had gone on a trip and he had arranged

1:46:44 Speaker 5: with Malika that she like get a surprise diamond necklace.

1:46:48 Speaker 4: And I'm like, why are you doing this and being on.

1:46:52 Speaker 5: His side that man cheated on your best friend like

1:46:56 Speaker 5: seven thousand times at this point.

1:46:58 Speaker 2: Please, I don't like that.

1:47:01 Speaker 3: No, I truly, I totally understand and agree with that.

1:47:03 Speaker 2: It was very, very weird. I don't understand her investment

1:47:07 Speaker 2: in not Chloe's love life, but her making bad choices,

1:47:10 Speaker 2: like her being hurt again. They're not even just like

1:47:13 Speaker 2: getting into our love life. We didn't see you doing

1:47:15 Speaker 2: this with French Montana Jans Hargett. It's specifically the men

1:47:18 Speaker 2: that hurt her a lot.

1:47:19 Speaker 8: R It's like big boy herd like that she's given

1:47:22 Speaker 8: her all too, Like that's crazy, some friend, But you know,

1:47:27 Speaker 8: I'm over there leave, you know, putting that on because

1:47:29 Speaker 8: they're not really talking about nothing and sometimes that's nice

1:47:31 Speaker 8: to have in the background when the world was going crazy.

1:47:34 Speaker 2: And y'all, I've never done a true crime episode or

1:47:38 Speaker 2: anything before, but I'm gonna try to convince Kendrick to

1:47:40 Speaker 2: do the Gabby Patito documentary with me. We both watched

1:47:43 Speaker 2: it in scramp scramped scrimp for all three parts. We

1:47:46 Speaker 2: binged it in like a so short. I was set

1:47:49 Speaker 2: from beginning to end. You the case, heard the case and.

1:47:53 Speaker 3: All of that. But wow, it was top ten on Netflix.

1:47:55 Speaker 3: It was number one multiple.

1:47:57 Speaker 2: Days I had.

1:47:58 Speaker 3: I thought it was wild. I have a lot of questions.

1:48:00 Speaker 3: I need charges for a lot of people.

1:48:03 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna we're gonna talk about that next week

1:48:06 Speaker 2: in our prop Black is three months and me and

1:48:09 Speaker 2: Kat are gonna have a key keep talking about that

1:48:11 Speaker 2: because that had me seated as well.

1:48:12 Speaker 3: I'm a true friend girl.

1:48:13 Speaker 2: What I do with the doc?

1:48:14 Speaker 3: I love a doc of all kinds. I sit before

1:48:16 Speaker 3: a doc every day.

1:48:19 Speaker 2: And yeah, so you guys, still protect your piece, take

1:48:24 Speaker 2: care of yourselves, listen to good podcasts when it's turn

1:48:28 Speaker 2: the news off, turn off your social media, and put

1:48:31 Speaker 2: on a good podcast. And if you need another fantastic on,

1:48:34 Speaker 2: which I know you all already do, because if you

1:48:36 Speaker 2: just go browsing on the top of the best the

1:48:38 Speaker 2: best of the best of podcasts, you will see my

1:48:41 Speaker 2: girl Kara. But Tarah, please tell people where they can

1:48:44 Speaker 2: find you and they can listen to you the formalities

1:48:48 Speaker 2: if they're new to finding you.

1:48:50 Speaker 5: Yes, my podcast is called Everyone's Business but Mine. Go

1:48:54 Speaker 5: ahead and give me a follow on Instagram and you

1:48:57 Speaker 5: can listen to my podcast everywhere you listen to podcast.

1:49:00 Speaker 4: I literally discuss everything. Next week.

1:49:03 Speaker 5: Unfortunately it is a pair of TLC is the bald Ones,

1:49:07 Speaker 5: so I will be recapping that because the screener hit

1:49:10 Speaker 5: my inbox, so we'll be getting into that.

1:49:14 Speaker 3: But yeah, sure I'll be watching that if you tell me.

1:49:17 Speaker 3: I trust carab with TV like with my life.

1:49:19 Speaker 2: Like I literally look at her Instagram postal do she

1:49:22 Speaker 2: does a nice grid every week of like what she's

1:49:24 Speaker 2: talking about, and I'll be like, I know.

1:49:26 Speaker 3: That reference, I saw that.

1:49:27 Speaker 2: What the hell is going on in that?

1:49:29 Speaker 3: I need to watch about? And I you're the reason

1:49:32 Speaker 3: I watched like the Plattville Show.

1:49:34 Speaker 2: I don't know what's how I was there for the

1:49:36 Speaker 2: reason I know right, it's Okay, I had a fine time.

1:49:39 Speaker 2: It's okay, it was a right a lot. I love

1:49:41 Speaker 2: watching culty white people white that I don't understand. It's

1:49:48 Speaker 2: literally why even first watching Salt Lake City because they

1:49:51 Speaker 2: were like, we're all married to each other and we're

1:49:52 Speaker 2: all cousins, so we don't know stay more. You know,

1:49:56 Speaker 2: remember when Heather was like we used to do clothes

1:49:58 Speaker 2: lines and be like the cops of gum in how'd

1:50:00 Speaker 2: you otherwise? Like, yeah, crazy information? So I love that.

1:50:06 Speaker 2: So like, you know, the system, wives of it, all

1:50:07 Speaker 2: the code you talked, so many of the good things

1:50:10 Speaker 2: and the Vander prom and the Bravo and all the stuff.

1:50:13 Speaker 2: So y'all go to check out everyone's business but mine.

1:50:16 Speaker 2: You listen to Kara, have a nice time, especially if

1:50:19 Speaker 2: you like TV. It's so good. It's just nice to

1:50:22 Speaker 2: escape these days. And I mean, if you're having a

1:50:25 Speaker 2: fun time, I can't imagine why you're listening to this.

1:50:28 Speaker 2: If you are, like what are you talking about? Or

1:50:30 Speaker 2: you're out of the country, in which case, please send

1:50:33 Speaker 2: us many lessons and positive vibes. But we appreciate them.

1:50:37 Speaker 2: And you guys know where to find me on all

1:50:39 Speaker 2: the things at Mixing with money on Instagram. Am I

1:50:43 Speaker 2: at cyg w I t h M A M I.

1:50:47 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for hanging with me and a

1:50:48 Speaker 2: baron with me. It's been a stressful few months.

1:50:51 Speaker 3: But not those bigger plans.

1:50:53 Speaker 2: Y'all have the universes in control and it's gonna all

1:50:55 Speaker 2: work out. The podcast has some exciting talks and things happen,

1:51:00 Speaker 2: so we'll see. We're gonna be trying to do some stuff.

1:51:02 Speaker 2: And yeah, we're gonna watch that Day Potito documentary if

1:51:06 Speaker 2: you can handle it, not wait till we recap it.

1:51:09 Speaker 2: Let me know what else you guys are watching. And yeah,

1:51:11 Speaker 2: protect your magic.

1:51:13 Speaker 3: Be where your fewd are.

1:51:14 Speaker 2: Let's just all do our best all we can do.

1:51:18 Speaker 2: Thank you guys for listening, and thank you so much,

1:51:20 Speaker 2: care for being here, thank you for having me. Of course,

1:51:23 Speaker 2: welcome come back anytime. You're literally the best person to

1:51:27 Speaker 2: world go through all this. Thank you for ending Black

1:51:29 Speaker 2: Distry Month with me, so that's while we have it.

1:51:34 Speaker 2: Take care of yourselves, babe me