Jerked in a Circle w/ Kaya (Bravo We're Black)

0:16 Speaker 1: Hello, Oh my goodness, Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologist. It is your girl Moni and you are in the mix with Money and special guest Kea from Bravo We're Black. It's really the best time in my life. I forgot that it was Black History Month when I even asked Kaya to.

0:47 Speaker 2: Come on and record with me.

0:49 Speaker 1: So the fact that those two things just like aligned, Like we're kicking off, you know, Black History Month, We're having a key key with ka from Bravo We're Black, So the cur mind and everyone that that's what we are and it is a celebratory thing. But also it's just really nice to focus on the positive part of that, of that of our experience right now and what's making us happy and what's making us like feel good and gagged these days.

1:16 Speaker 2: And I can't wait to do that with you, Kia. How are you better now that I'm here?

1:21 Speaker 3: Right, Aaron has got the chance to talk to you. We're like, well, before we just you were just on my podcast obviously, but before that, Aaron had got a chance to talk to you before I did, because I was indisposed aka.

1:35 Speaker 2: Sick at the time.

1:36 Speaker 3: So I'm like, when am I going to be able to be on the revamp. Yeah, because you know you re you redid some things get indeed, you rebranded. So I'm like, I can't wait to be on in.

1:50 Speaker 2: The mix, child, And now I am here.

1:52 Speaker 3: And not only am I here during Black History Month, I'm here during Traders, I'm here during the Potomac Reunion trailer. I'm here doing the Salt Lakes City Part two reunion. Like, what a time to be alive and what a time to be able to speak on that. And I've also just announced on our social media that we are having black guests all February long. And even though I just had you on, Baba, we're black, I figured that I would wait until we record, so you can't say no, can you come on? Can you come on again this month because we're having.

2:36 Speaker 2: Black gusts all month? Yes, okay, perfect. That's what that's called community service. That's what we do.

2:42 Speaker 1: That's how we give back to the people and keep things happy every time we get together, like we reunite with our own people and have a moment to Kiki and just like be it's just a different vibe. And we love all of our ally garlies absolutely when they come on.

2:58 Speaker 2: We love them. I love having a kiki with all my girlies. However they come on.

3:02 Speaker 1: But there's just something about knowing you're gonna get with a cousin on the mic. A good time all around, and the people have a good time too, And who are we to do a good time.

3:15 Speaker 3: Especially when we have just been regifted Black History Month.

3:19 Speaker 2: I didn't know that it No, no, they took it away,

3:24 Speaker 2: you like, okay, you know, yeah, that's nice celebrating it my whole life and.

3:35 Speaker 3: I know that was on the table for this this month, but that that tells me a lot.

3:40 Speaker 2: It's like a TikTok, you know, is it gone or is it here? What is it?

3:44 Speaker 1: I don't know that we thought it was gone, but then it came right back. Oh so it's not gone. Okay, I'm going, you know.

3:51 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, like my celebrations were already like I'm already like I'm ready. I was celebrating that ship regardless.

3:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, my annual I have a lovely, beautiful white friend who annually gives me a small sum of money for a Black History Month to treat myself to something lovely.

4:15 Speaker 2: But let me put up.

4:19 Speaker 1: And then also for Juneteenth, she gives me the same amount so I can get a coffee or something.

4:24 Speaker 2: That's what makes me happy. Price coffee makes.

4:28 Speaker 1: Me very very strong, very not on my dime, but very customized, makes me very happy. And she knows this of me, so she so she calls it reparations and Black History Month. She just calls it, she says, happy best month of the year. And I love that for me. You know, I explore the like.

4:46 Speaker 2: The whites and the I You're the white of someone's life, you know, someone's life.

4:53 Speaker 3: I love that our good friend Sarah sent me, Kiddick and Aaron a bottle of sir whiskey.

5:02 Speaker 2: Girl. That friend around supporting our queen who just said now she's going on tour.

5:11 Speaker 1: And I gets who had three tabs open already for cowboy boots custom hats. Me and Kendrick are talking about finding Chaps man Chaps. Yes, okay, so great for that friend. Love that friend. Love that she's doing that for you all because that whiskey slaps it's good in the drink too.

5:31 Speaker 3: I cannot wait the bus to open. Aaron already a bust open his Kendrick, Kendrick, because she sent it to me. Because you can't send alcohol to Tennessee or Memphis or something like that, because I don't know, but she sent it to me. I gave Aaron his and Kendrick has already threatened me multiple times on to open his. But listen, baby, you better come down on here. I gotta come on up there sometime soon because once mine started getting empty.

6:00 Speaker 2: Y'all need to meet somewhere in the middle. What's in between, y'all? What's in between fits and Florida?

6:05 Speaker 3: Right?

6:07 Speaker 2: You know what? It could be like an Atlanta Okay, it's a cute little thing. Yeah, I love Atlanta, Okay, you know. And we don't know when Beyonce is going on tour.

6:17 Speaker 1: When she is at Atlanta day, it could be a it could be a family reunion.

6:21 Speaker 2: I don't know yet. I'm just gonna see her.

6:24 Speaker 3: I just know that I will. And I don't even know how I'm going to pay.

6:27 Speaker 1: For it, girl, no, no clue, I don't care, but I will be there. My mama told me this morning, and she was just like, I paid for the last one, Emani, I said, I didn't ask you, and I just sent her a gift of like a poll and a man.

6:45 Speaker 2: Just swinging on it, and I'm like, listen, don't judge. Remember we listen and we don't judge.

6:53 Speaker 1: I love that with you and Aaron, And okay, direct TV come on sponsorship.

6:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we listen and then we don't jet listen. MA I'm gonna be there.

7:04 Speaker 3: So we sell you some pop up my business.

7:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, listen, just mind your business. Somebody sends something to you, just tell him to mind their business and pray on.

7:13 Speaker 3: It and tell them those AI that's a new thing.

7:17 Speaker 2: That's the thing that.

7:17 Speaker 3: Aaron does when he doesn't want to take accountability. He says, that wasn't me, that was AI.

7:25 Speaker 2: It was a I.

7:26 Speaker 1: And in Today's A the amount of commercials I saw while watching the Salt Lake City Reunion, the amount of commercials for Meta and AI that I saw. He's probably he could be right, he could and he's wrong.

7:40 Speaker 3: But like I said in the like I said in the Direct TV little ad, we did Leo's lie all for no reason, for no reason, It's okay, because that's why we love them.

7:56 Speaker 2: It is why we love them. Like, that's exactly why we love them.

8:00 Speaker 1: Like I love Stephanie. She's she's a Leo. We love her yes, I love a good leo.

8:07 Speaker 2: Of a line and ask Leo.

8:08 Speaker 1: I don't why they live, but it is its secretly bring the people together. Yeah about their aunted it that's up an opportunity to be like a star, and they are one always.

8:24 Speaker 3: Do you understand the amount of times that people have messaged me I love this episode, but I miss.

8:30 Speaker 2: Aaron and I'm like me too, I'll get him back.

8:32 Speaker 3: So I got him back. I got him back. He will be back for Black History Month. I did my de I before Black His Stream Month started.

8:39 Speaker 2: I had Ryan Bailey on the podcast.

8:42 Speaker 3: So I did my de I. Now I'm getting back to the to the roots, okay for February, and then I'll go back.

8:51 Speaker 2: To the I in March.

8:52 Speaker 3: But for right now, February it's all black black black black black.

8:57 Speaker 2: No. I love it.

8:57 Speaker 1: We're all celebrating it in our own way. My challenge this month is to actually put out every month so that I can one put out the at y'all. Just listen to your ads faces thank you so, just like listen.

9:08 Speaker 2: To the girlies ads and then it's.

9:11 Speaker 1: That's in place of if you don't want to Venmo send me a wrapper, you can send me send me a que little b hm. You know, uh, you know aligned situation. Listen, they just took target away from me. Y'all, y'all gotta help help me. Send me your favorite.

9:28 Speaker 2: I saw that.

9:29 Speaker 1: I understand you give people my address at this point because I am I'm unwell, I mean joy. So if you would like to help me find joy at the very least, listen to these ads. So three months from now, I can when I get my check, I can say, you know what they did let me in February.

9:47 Speaker 2: I feel it.

9:47 Speaker 4: I feel it.

9:48 Speaker 3: Listen to the ads. Just let it play, put it on while you while you driving, put it on like.

9:55 Speaker 1: What I do, because like it's changed in my perspective obviously when we do this.

9:59 Speaker 2: So now listen. I listen to other people's podcast I try really hard not to skip through as.

10:03 Speaker 1: Well, so I'll let them play what I do. If I'm doing the dishes or something, I turn it down low if I don't want to hear like the actual ad, and I transcript button one because I can always like I glaze over and I see that they'll be like it's twenty thirteen, and I'm like, oh, we bet we're bat We're back's right, get your story.

10:27 Speaker 3: Now, make sure you put it on one so it's playing though.

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11:10 Speaker 2: My therapist said.

11:11 Speaker 1: But you know, once in a while I'll be like, oh I just like glance and it's like, oh, thank you, I'm gonna leave now.

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12:41 Speaker 2: Free, by the way, But yeah, you know you can't set a cute little price if like you're like many. I love you, Okay, I love you, but I don't have five dollars monthly.

12:49 Speaker 1: But I do got to seventy five or three pinks right now, though I can give you good.

12:54 Speaker 2: For us too, Amy, I'm happy.

12:58 Speaker 3: Listen, listen, I don't say no, I will do something strange for a little change, Beyonce.

13:07 Speaker 2: It all hell, it all adds all as up, y'all, it really does.

13:16 Speaker 1: Okay, So first thing, I read this week news. First, I guess before we get into like the nitty gritty of the episodes, So that trailer came out right for the House Sides of Potomac reunion. The trailer is more interesting than even what's going on on the show right now. The finale hasn't come out yet. If you're listening to this when this comes out with this is a Sunday, then the finale actually comes on tonight, so I won't even talk about it until next weekend. But we are all already focused on the reunion.

13:46 Speaker 1: That trailer had me gag for multiple reasons. I'd love to know yours first, okay, because I'm pretty sure we have some of the same ones.

13:56 Speaker 3: Okay, I want you guys to know that me and Ann recorded on right before they dropped the Potomac Greenian.

14:03 Speaker 2: Trailer, so we had happened. We had made our.

14:07 Speaker 3: Predictions without knowing what would happen. I had said, I think Aaron is going I mean, Karen is going to show up in some shape, way or form. Like she's not gonna just send in a statement. I think they're gonna have her on zoom. They're gonna have a video message or something.

14:24 Speaker 2: Aaron did not.

14:25 Speaker 3: Aaron think that she was going to be as far away as possible.

14:28 Speaker 1: He thought he was gonna go stufs like LVPD Like, I'm like, no, that is Karen Huger.

14:35 Speaker 2: Baby, he will be on that television screen. What a bus down?

14:39 Speaker 3: Listen sad or not? Okay, So we get off. The Greenian trailer has dropped. People are already talking about it, and I'm like.

14:50 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I was right.

14:53 Speaker 3: Karen had me gagged because she's crying on screen. But then before I can even get out what I thought was a tear for me, they had a picture a Karen framed looking like she's gone to glory. And I know, y'all fucking lying to me and then apparently there was someone else in the car, allegedly according to multiple people on the cast. According to I guess what Karen said during some of the foot I don't know someone else was in the car. Couldn't be blue eyes this whole time.

15:36 Speaker 2: But seeing someone else was in the car, why is she driving? That's my question? Like why has no one else been arrested or implicated there in that crime? Why wasn't that like in the you know what I mean? Like this got picked up at least locally.

15:50 Speaker 1: That was a very big deal because when anytime anybody like gets drunk and driving for whatever reason, the Beltway is so like at astraphic with traffic and stuff, it always makes news. But Karen, being like a person on TV, it was like everywhere, and it wasn't that anybody else got arrested or anything like that, not to mention they would somebody else would have felt it would have been detained, Like who's who is she taking the fall for?

16:19 Speaker 3: And the report like I don't understand, like if I didn't see any written reports, But they make written reports, you know, word for word of what is going on, what they see, they have whatever it is, I think that I saw, and I don't know if it was AI because I'm covering Karen's house. I think that I saw something that Karen was like, Oh, the driver you hired for me was in the car. But I'm like, if there was a driver, a driver hired, then why wasn't he driving?

16:51 Speaker 2: I haven't that's the purpose of the driver.

16:54 Speaker 1: My thing has always been, how are they a legend that you're sleeping with the driver and then you're driving drunk and whatnot? Allegedly, you know what I'm saying. Almost was like, so was she ever sleeping with this driver? Because how is she getting the DUI? If you have a driver, I don't understand.

17:10 Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense.

17:12 Speaker 3: And I just don't think that anyone else personally off.

17:16 Speaker 2: Than she was, then how could he.

17:21 Speaker 3: Ran child?

17:23 Speaker 1: Okay, so there's no So there's a man on foot coming out of a car that just crashed into a whatever the fuck from a drunk driving incident where a lady was three, she's to the wind and was driving crazy and it's Thomas Jefferson's conky bomb.

17:36 Speaker 2: But he's on foot. But somehow we only talking to Karen, maybe not swear her.

17:43 Speaker 3: The rest of her wig went like he took the rest of her wig the front car pretty far.

17:48 Speaker 2: It was pretty.

17:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I don't think that there was anyone else in the car. And also we're talking about a woman who clearly was talking about being Thomas Jefferson's concubine. So it's like, I will take whatever she said with a grain of salt. In addition to being gagged about that of an additional thoughts on the trailer, I'm so glad that they get in MIA's asked because I really thought that since obviously this whole Karen thing went down, Mia thought that she was safe, and baby, you're the furthest thing from it.

18:25 Speaker 3: Because I'm going to need some answers. I'm going to need some accountability. I'm going to need you to tell us what the hell is really going on?

18:35 Speaker 2: Yes, and then get to it.

18:37 Speaker 1: And I don't think she's going to because she can't do it at the reunion. It would be too much admission of guilt. And you know, they moved her her trial, her sentencing. Actually the trials happened, it's done deal, but they moved the sentencing until she completes her program.

18:53 Speaker 2: Oh, I was talking about miya.

18:55 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry, Mia, I'm just talking about Karen, you know, being out and being gone, And yes, it does give us some space though in time to get into me as asses because the stuns that she's pulled this season have been catastrophic to where like I don't want to catch up with Karen.

19:11 Speaker 2: I know, we don't know, I'm not.

19:12 Speaker 1: There's actually nothing Karen could say at this ringuion that I'm interested in because I don't know what the what the solution is going to be get, Like I care about the sentencing.

19:21 Speaker 3: People keep saying, and multiple people I've heard this. Okay, so she checked in on the day reunion that that can't be you know, she just wanted to skip through reunion. You guys got to think smarter. This woman is an actual legal trouble.

19:34 Speaker 1: This is I don't want to jail house was speak about right now, right, So if she's she doesn't have to go and talk about her situation at all, it does not look good.

19:47 Speaker 2: If that's the case.

19:48 Speaker 1: It looks good if she prioritizes herself like this shit get the reunion. Sure, but that's not because that's the big picture, the big I don't want to go to jail right on.

19:58 Speaker 2: Avoiding j y'all are like real life ship, Like Karen is not made.

20:06 Speaker 3: Y'all forget y'all forget that. Yes, this is a reality show. Yes she needs to take accountability. Yes she needs to repeat up here on the reunion. But at the same time, this woman can go to jail so it looks better that she's in rehab.

20:23 Speaker 2: So she can be like, hey, look, I'm getting the help that I need. Please do not.

20:28 Speaker 3: Put me in there with them.

20:30 Speaker 2: Please give me some community service, Please give me probation, take ray instead, something anything but me, Like, I'm not made for it. You give me any.

20:43 Speaker 3: Karen can't do it.

20:44 Speaker 2: She already skinny. She can't.

20:46 Speaker 1: She'll never eat, she'll be so upset. Karen is not cut out for most things, which is skinned Why I'm just so shocked and concerned that we're in this situation.

20:56 Speaker 3: And the first why, I'm like, why are.

20:58 Speaker 2: Y'all looking for her to take accountability?

20:59 Speaker 1: And point have we ever expected any of these ladies to take accountability for any goddamn thing? Why would this be the day they are like this, that's the thing they think that they're just putting on or something for show. Y'all gotta remember we cast real women. They are real housewives for a reason.

21:15 Speaker 2: Kry is this unreasonable Delulu out of touch. That's why we loved her. So we can't then be like she needs to take accountability.

21:23 Speaker 1: Sure, Jan she does, but I agree what I'm thinking she's prepared to do, or she would have done, we would have seen some evidence on something much smaller, you know, like I did say your cookies were second best and should have won that year, Jaselle.

21:37 Speaker 2: We don't get that, So why she wants to the court. I did indeed do a crime. If there was another man in the car, she would have phoned that man under that car under.

21:46 Speaker 3: The bush so fast, immediately. And then if y'all knew that she was bullshitting from the first excuse that she gave. The first statement that she gave was me and a friend were having drinks or me and a friend met up, and I was just so caught up in the grief of losing my mother, And I'm like, I understand that, but that does not cause you to run off the road.

22:08 Speaker 1: It doesn't and de crash into things, or to continue drinking to the point of thinking.

22:12 Speaker 2: That you are going to drive if you.

22:14 Speaker 1: When I start self medicating, however, that may be right healthy unhealthy, you know it's usually healthy, I mean ish. When I start self medicating, it comes a point where I realize that I'm doing such like I'm not just taking the edge off or whatever that I'm hurting or feeling a thing, and then I'm having this medication quote unquote to make me feel differently about that thing. At that moment, that's when you hand over the keys. That's when you text Mommy Cans and you say, Hey, Gurley, gonna need an uber.

22:46 Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave my car here.

22:47 Speaker 1: Can you help see anybody out twenty two point fifty?

22:51 Speaker 2: Can I get an uber? I'll even get an uber pool? But I gotta I gotta not be it can't be mede.

22:56 Speaker 3: But that's why I can't like, like I try to hide her legs from the whooping that were giving her, but I have to put her out there because I'm like, if I'm poor and I can make these decisions. Hello, but you're a housewife that makes a six figure salary. It's only so much.

23:16 Speaker 2: Did the black bill gates?

23:17 Speaker 1: But you protected your money, so even if he had irs problems, you did a you're good about your you.

23:22 Speaker 3: Were smart enough for that, but you can't be smart enough.

23:25 Speaker 1: To speak in an Uber. What's that's the driver? Like past the are you sleep? You're sleeping with a driver, but you don't have a driver. The driver wasn't driving, but you had a driver, which in a car driving it doesn't make sense.

23:38 Speaker 2: But okay, like but it'd be beyond that.

23:41 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, then Uber for the both of y'all, neither of y'all's phones work, y'all got the Uber passed the Uber gold, uber x lift lift credit something. And in DC there are other options. There are actually some fancy like hit a button. There's like three other ones like y fashion, so many other ones.

24:02 Speaker 3: Die cab, what's happened to a taxi cab? And what happened to also not over serving people? Because if I was a bartender, right and your wig is at your ears, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna have to stop.

24:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

24:19 Speaker 1: Oh the wigs going back further and further with every shot, I'm getting her shots of water.

24:25 Speaker 2: Like i'd be like, you want.

24:26 Speaker 1: A little seltzer, you want a little selter with a lime. She thinks she drinking about Pa soodas like, yeah, toss back that barrier, girl.

24:34 Speaker 3: But Okay, what I was trying to say was that the other thing on the trailer is that I'm so glad that we can get into MIA's ass, because it's to the point where everyone is like, no, you said this, that and the other the truth thing in the bitch.

24:48 Speaker 1: Okay, it's not you had us thinking all season, not even us. You told that poor old man, who you already did say is bipolar, which at the very least, please don't drink a bipolar people intentionally and then get upset when they decide to and then or use it as like a see how bad he is.

25:03 Speaker 2: That's not right, that's exploitation. I don't like that.

25:06 Speaker 1: But like telling this man that his son may not be his son all these years later, a decade plus, and then getting that other man worked, then it might be his son when you know it's not, that's not even a possibility. You're gonna take a son from one man, You're gonna maybe promise a southern a son to the other man, and you're gonna make these two men hate each other, and you're gonna make this son you're using also your child then as like a pond, which is really not cool, and we talk about that. Y'all don't like women talking about your kid, but here we are.

25:40 Speaker 3: And then she has a nerd to say like it wasn't any of anyone's business, like this brought us into it.

25:46 Speaker 1: I had no I know, I knew no knowledge of this prior to you mentioning it yourself on edited footage multiple times in multiple episodes.

25:59 Speaker 2: But you want to he's gonna fight over you.

26:00 Speaker 1: That bad that your son had to take a like had to take had to take one caught astray.

26:05 Speaker 2: That's not right.

26:07 Speaker 3: And then even though he's mailed in the results and got the results back, you still are talking about how, oh, he could have swapped himself twice.

26:15 Speaker 2: It's like, out listen, you're bugging, you're bugging. There may need to be too diagnosis here.

26:23 Speaker 1: I don't think he's the only one who I'm actually glaud like, wow, Gordon, I'm glad you got the help and start the answers for yourself. Shout out to you. Let's maybe start a trend. Let's maybe get others involved. Is he's still in the insurance, can quick a little little testy diagnostic thingy on her.

26:44 Speaker 2: People talk about narcissist giving, narcissists and narcissistic personality disorder, and so I tell people all the time, I was raised by a narcissists of one parent. I don't have a relationship like that with because of that.

26:59 Speaker 1: So, like I'm very sensitive, right, so to win, Especially parents who have narcissistic tendencies are parents because they do leverage love and your relationship with another parent all the time. It is wild. I would never forget one time. This is crazy that I'm even gonna say this. I'll never forget one time, like my parent and my mom. So I literally, okay, caught caught Yeah, like she my I got like a bad grade in physics, like on a homework assignment.

27:38 Speaker 2: It was just that I needed to redo it.

27:40 Speaker 1: So my parent picks me up from school and it's like, so did you in high school? It's like, so I saw that you got this grade, you' shouldn't be really sympathetic and really like and I'm like, no, it's not like that he had to put it in as this zero or whatever because I haven't turned it in yet and the grades are due. But he will fix it as soon as I turned it in, we already talked it's all figured out.

28:00 Speaker 2: Out right, and he's like, oh great, so good to hear that. Awesome.

28:03 Speaker 1: We drive home thirty three minutes right, get home. I'm upstairs, I'm in a shower. I come out.

28:08 Speaker 2: And I had to do this often, which is crazy and how I knew that it was like a bad situation. But I often had to eat job on my parents' conversations to make sure that my parent wasn't lying to my mom home made do you have.

28:20 Speaker 3: To take a kind of bility like you have to make sure, hey person, yes, because yeah.

28:27 Speaker 1: Because they will quickly lie on their kids to get some kind of emotion out of their partner, to prove that to make like it like it makes them feel like they are still wanted in that way, Like she needed these men to fight over her like this, right, it's not enough that she's a baddie, it's not enough that she's pretty and that she can have money or whatever the hell, and that these men want her still. It's like she has to make it that they need her still and they don't, but their kids sure. So then my parent sits now and it's like telling my mama.

28:56 Speaker 1: It's like, so I was looking at, you know, her grades thing, and I see that she's really struggling in physics.

29:03 Speaker 2: And she got a zero on something.

29:06 Speaker 1: And I just think that because knowing my mama was the disciplinarian, she was the train up a child and the way they should go still in hospoil a child.

29:14 Speaker 2: That's her. So she was like that. She didn't play about this.

29:17 Speaker 1: And so the thing that my parents told me on the way home was like, I wanted to bring this to you before your mom saw it, because you know how she can get so for then me to be like, oh, I'm explaining this to you, so you don't have to worry my mam us. You don't have to get them, you know, get the workie work.

29:31 Speaker 2: And turn around, turn around.

29:34 Speaker 1: And you're bringing it up to her talking about something, I'm at the top of the stads going that's not true, and attack. I'm like uh huh, defending myself. So like I'm I'm very sensitive two parents who are like that. She got the tendencies man, like that's why I think I don't like, yeah, how could you do this too? Like I'm thinking about these men. Sure, it doesn't even yeah, but even if they're the worst men in history, you know what I'm saying, the worst of the worst men to you, why would you do this about their kids?

30:08 Speaker 2: Like that?

30:08 Speaker 1: Just feels so tragic to me and also your son. What if somebody's at school and they are news slash they're at school and someone's like, so, which one is your daddy? I hear your mama don't know who your daddy is. Thirteen years later, and that's happening.

30:21 Speaker 3: I can promise you that absolutely they're on TV's on social media. It's different.

30:27 Speaker 2: It's so different.

30:28 Speaker 1: And you kept us guessing this entire season on social media, posting pictures of both of y'all together. We didn't find out that they were not even her and ink orn't together until very recently, like making us go.

30:40 Speaker 2: Like, oh, who is it? Who's the daddy? We're all of one big, happy family.

30:44 Speaker 1: And also again me and you said multiple times, I can't wait for any to get into that ass.

30:48 Speaker 2: You said it suple times that it could be.

30:52 Speaker 1: You say, we want I want my kids to call parents, like to get along, the fathers of my kids and my children to get along.

30:57 Speaker 2: They said, fathers, What you.

31:00 Speaker 1: Did that that was not a Freudian slip, because you know that that's not true.

31:03 Speaker 2: I don't like it. It's weird.

31:05 Speaker 3: Then she tried to gaslight us. Remember he has an older child that has a different father, So she got two baby that is, But she's making us believe that it's three. But she wants us to believe that she's talking about and Gordon, but actually she was talking about a different Like no, you knew exactly who which child belonged to since birth conception.

31:28 Speaker 2: I don't like it.

31:29 Speaker 1: I don't like it, and I think I said that in the beginning. I didn't know why I didn't like her. Now it makes a lot of sense. I can't believe you just threw your child's paternity out there like that, Like he's not old enough to understand that.

31:39 Speaker 2: That's fucking crazy.

31:41 Speaker 1: Like you just made your child no offense and white people y'all can't say this like this, But you just made your child out here look like a little hood kid, like a look at an actual like you know what I mean.

31:50 Speaker 2: Like you did the most, Like you changed the entire vision that you gave us about your kids, how you were not the stereotype, and how your mom was you know, a crackhead, so you weren't gonna do that your kids, you know, have Gordon stepped in and he was daddy, and then he had other kids and they have the same father, like you painted that picture.

32:09 Speaker 1: So then you had turned around a couple of years later and be like, I don't know who my son's daddy is. It's giving, baby boy, and I don't like that.

32:15 Speaker 2: I don't.

32:16 Speaker 1: I don't understand why you would do that to this child. Why did he deserve to be put out like that? Like it's so crazy, it's crazy, and somebody you don't know who my daddy is?

32:28 Speaker 2: I can't.

32:31 Speaker 3: She still but she won't stop. And this is the thing she at the reunion. You can tell that she's still on because Andy has to pull her aside and be.

32:42 Speaker 2: Like, hey, it's not giving.

32:48 Speaker 3: We are waiting for you to like there's a pilom here because you lied to everyone. And then after the reunion films, she is on Watch What Happens Life? Still I love seeing miss Quad get her together very respectfully though.

33:04 Speaker 2: That was a crazy Watch What Happens Live?

33:06 Speaker 3: Insane, Like I wanted Quad the host of reunion at this point, but it was already filmed, but I'm just like you are still talking about Oh well, yeah, he could have swapped himself twice. Why would I? And Miss quad is like you send in the result, like you send in the swamps and the lab gives you the results. It's nothing else. That's very common.

33:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, like what why do you be the worst? Is kind of chaos for yourself and your child. You're caught like you should be trying to and I don't want to say tap dance during Black History Month, but you should be trying to make sure that you get another champagne flute so you can clean this mess up right next season.

33:50 Speaker 3: Actually, I don't want to see you.

33:52 Speaker 2: I don't think she will. The Essence article, I think, you know, really ate her up.

33:57 Speaker 1: You know, the fact that Essence was like you're playing games, and we won't have it, not on this TV screen, not in the year of our Lord.

34:04 Speaker 2: Karen being like hell to the fire in the courtroom. In real life. If Karen goes to jail, God rest her. So please don't.

34:11 Speaker 1: But if we're left with someone like Nia, you're not doing this dance with us. We're not doing this with you, Okay, We're not doing these fake storyline when you had enough, you're getting divorced. That's usually everybody's storyline, you know, because you know, people think that Dart and Pik are faking this for a storyline.

34:30 Speaker 2: I don't know. You don't know. I don't know.

34:32 Speaker 3: Do you think that they're faking this?

34:35 Speaker 2: I think they fake a few things.

34:37 Speaker 3: But I think that they fake a few things, But I don't know if the separation is one. I think that they fake something about, you know, possibly getting robbed, but I don't know. I can't sy.

34:47 Speaker 2: I think at least one of them did.

34:49 Speaker 1: The only compromised conspiracy theory that I have allowed myself to accept other than the whole thing was staged, is that she may not have non but he may have known, and maybe they're separate, and then that.

35:04 Speaker 2: Is a great cause for separation.

35:06 Speaker 1: And you may not want to say that because the payout is gonna be qtz okay, which then makes me understand then why I'm seeing in future episodes he wants to divorce her as for fourteen years, so you don't get that QT payout. But by golly, if there was a gun held up to my head, honey, I'm clocking you.

35:23 Speaker 2: I'm taking you to the clean clear getting be married for the rest of my life in name only, because bitch I got I'm sorry to curse, but I got a gun. My children were in the house and you and you were gone. You weren't even there, like you.

35:43 Speaker 1: I will pull these tears out so quickly that Judge will make sure right, don't even play with me, right honor. He was away, and that's when I knew that we were living separate lines.

35:55 Speaker 3: Great, I had to.

35:56 Speaker 2: Defend my show.

35:58 Speaker 3: I guess what since since Kyle went, Since Kyle want to be in it so bad, since she wants she want to means so bad?

36:04 Speaker 2: What is it?

36:05 Speaker 3: She was Also, he was also sending memes to my best.

36:09 Speaker 2: Friend so sad, like I just and there's no judge in the country.

36:14 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, It's like I don't I don't understand it, Like I mean, obviously I'm over this fight being the whole season as well. Please, but I am here for the Fab four five, Foxy fifty fifty booth finally finally finished disbanded this banded the finally I was so glad.

36:39 Speaker 3: And I just think that Teddy thinks that now that you know she's successfully broken up two homes, one being her own and someone else's that she thinks that she can come on over to Kyle's house, her and Kyle living together, going who runs together? And you know, she thinks that she can rely that where it's just like no, because now dark sees who Kyle really is, right And now also Duri has a black friend that's not her mom's black friend.

37:10 Speaker 2: And this black friend is going to tell you how it is and make you open your eyes.

37:16 Speaker 3: Bow does not play bows. That means because she calls out in addition to calling Kyle so accountable.

37:26 Speaker 1: And I think that that's something that Daria even finds refreshing, is that she's on a surface level friend who's not just going to be mad with when you say something like, well, right now, after you just spilt water on me, your sister is my favorite version of your family and not.

37:41 Speaker 2: You, ha ha ha. And I just really have my feelings that you said we weren't close. Are you kidding me? You're kidding me?

37:46 Speaker 1: No, I'm like she's Kyle is in love with Teddy mailing Camp. I believe my opinion. Okay, you just this, there is some sort of soul kindred in kindred internal connection that they have because I don't get it with that other girl.

38:03 Speaker 2: I never understood it.

38:04 Speaker 1: But Jari saying that her and Teddy are not that close seem to really piss Kyle off for the for whatever reason, and now she is holding deep final grudges for whatever reason, and in her days of divorce and separation, she turns to Teddy to live with her, but turns to p K, what even if you're not in love with Teddy, You're a terrible friend, Kyle.

38:28 Speaker 2: You are.

38:28 Speaker 1: I've always known that, I've never liked you, but you a horrible friend. You are a terrible friend because I because Garseel even told Kyle, because you know, I just find it interesting about Kyle and Deerie both went to like the Mammy Teddy like they both ran to their black friend to be like, hey, they don't like me over there?

38:47 Speaker 2: Can you help? Like can you think you feel better?

38:49 Speaker 1: And even Garcelle told Kyle like, I was mad at you for that because if you were texting my husband.

38:54 Speaker 3: Somethings like that. He texted her since her like why are you texting this man? Like texting this man?

39:07 Speaker 1: And I kind of agree with I'm not seeing I don't understand how you could be team Kyle unless you just love her blind like you do with Teresa, Because the argument is, why would you even say I've never shared anything? Because if he does share a certain meme or something with you, I would hope you run and tell that.

39:25 Speaker 3: Right. And then also we're seeing the exchanges that they have once she gets on camera. Well, if you know me, obviously it wasn't just means no bitch you said, it was just memes you did.

39:38 Speaker 2: I'm seeing paragraphs? I am, so what are we talking about here? But what is it?

39:44 Speaker 3: And I understand the blind loyalty of Kyle fans because I have, well, I don't have blind loyalty. I can call out a housewife when I think that she is wrong, but I will still see in her regardless because that's my bitch. But when it's come to this, this is like your caught red handful and then you.

40:05 Speaker 2: Did run away.

40:05 Speaker 1: And I am here for Sutton clocking in and people being like Sutton's born.

40:08 Speaker 2: She has nothing. She's going after big girl, and I find that admirable. But she's right. I have seen Kyle personally pull Sutton back by her dress tails. Yep. To a table from running away and she couldn't handle something. And now you're gonna storm out of here over Texas, over Texas because you're being called out. And they're not wrong. They're allowed to have those feelings.

40:30 Speaker 1: There are all women have been divorced, and they're like, actually, I wouldn't love to know that one of my good judies was texting my soon to be ex being like, I've never shared anything that we've talked about and I never will.

40:42 Speaker 2: And here's some memes. Why aren't you sending me memes? Bitch about divorce me.

40:46 Speaker 3: You didn't even message me, talk to me, call me carry or pitching me about the separation.

40:54 Speaker 2: Oh but you're talking to PK through what all?

40:57 Speaker 3: But let it be Mauricio And she already had the meaning saved to her phone of and Mauricio PK. We all be in an uproar. We would get to read off this, we all would. I would probably even side with Kyle for the first time. I'd be like, well that's just terrible. Yeah, that is hard. Y'all have to understand we are not seeing a derie that is going through like surface level like lawsuits, things, frivolous things that she can handle.

41:27 Speaker 2: This is a.

41:28 Speaker 3: Woman after a robbery attempt, someone stole ten thousand dollars, her husband is separating, Her husband suddenly wants to divorce.

41:39 Speaker 1: This is who her husband is, like an alcoholic in a alcohola.

41:44 Speaker 2: But the AA sponsor is the one that told him to leave her. Oh my god, Like, this is not the same woman.

41:50 Speaker 3: So of course she's not playing. I don't have time to play.

41:57 Speaker 1: I don't have time. She has kids to raise and bullshit to handle. Okay, I can't. It's too much like, Oh, oh my god, I could even talk about Beverly Hills all day. Okay, we can't.

42:09 Speaker 2: So let's dive.

42:11 Speaker 1: Into Salt Lake City Reunion Part two and then we'll just spend the rest of our time talking about Traders, because that show gives me butterflies right now.

42:21 Speaker 2: So and Solid City did too.

42:24 Speaker 1: I watched it in this morning and I felt things again.

42:29 Speaker 3: Did you did you?

42:31 Speaker 2: Okay?

42:31 Speaker 3: Are you on different sides? What did you think about?

42:35 Speaker 2: Okay?

42:35 Speaker 3: The husband's what the shift? Like? What's going on?

42:41 Speaker 1: So there's you know, there's a lot a part of the second part to unpack.

42:45 Speaker 2: I knew that would happen.

42:47 Speaker 1: What I wasn't expecting was in my opinion, and I want to know if you think the same thing happened. I think Todd found out in real time how much ship Brongman was talking and he was shocked, disarmed, and a little concern. And she tried to push it as much as she could. She tried to get over it as much as she could.

43:06 Speaker 2: She was like, well, I didn't really said and they're like no, no, no, no.

43:09 Speaker 1: No, uh huh, because I have students that do that when they got caught after the well, so and so told me that you said, Well I didn't say that you said that.

43:16 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, no, wait hold on, because well I just wanted you to know because I understand that I'm feeling like this.

43:21 Speaker 1: No, no, no, we're not arguing what you were feeling in that right and.

43:28 Speaker 2: On the boat. We're talking about what you said on the boat.

43:33 Speaker 1: You're not saying that you said those things. Your you need to say that you said those things. And she well, I mean imagine me coming into this group, and I wanted to be No, one's no.

43:47 Speaker 2: You don't imagine.

43:48 Speaker 3: Nobody asked you like that was season two, father and say something. She came and she played all her hands. She every one for no reason, like already liked you. Okay, we liked you, but then you got to like you got too far.

44:07 Speaker 2: Every single time you want to reunion.

44:11 Speaker 3: Even in the season, I started trying on her, I will tell you, because it's like every single conversation that she had, she wanted like. At first, I'm like, oh, yes, she is just accountable. Oh this is refreshing, Oh she's real. But every conversation you have, you're gonna go and tell the person that you had that conversation so you could be the first one to tell them. Yeah, that's what you started doing. It's not about being accountable. It's not about being you know, like, hey, I want to give you a heads up.

44:41 Speaker 3: It's because you wanted to be there so you could look like the good guy. And then also when she did that shit, I'm like, you know what, that was messed up of Lisa and Meredith to imply, you know that maybe she shouldn't have should have went about it a different way. But then we get to the reunion and we see the she forgave them and she agreed with them, and she was just like accepting of it. I'm like, bitch, you just made an entire thing out of them, making you feel this type of way when you go watch What Happens Live and say that he really didn't cheat on you, and then on the reunion, we still don't even know what really happened, what happened to that account of visibility that you demanded from everyone.

45:27 Speaker 2: Else, right, and therefore grazing over.

45:31 Speaker 3: It because for some reason they hate Lisa right now they think that. Okay, I understand y'all think that Lisa did it wrong with the whole one thing when I feel like she knew both parents, she knew the other parents.

45:43 Speaker 1: She did not want Bronwin to be villified on a show that they didn't know that they would be vilified on.

45:48 Speaker 2: And I understand that.

45:50 Speaker 1: I think Lisa was looking out for Brown's whole family more this season than Bromwin was. And I didn't think that until we saw this episode with the Todd thing. I did not feel bad for that man until when Andy said on the show, Brown said that Quinn actually is the one who found the messages that you do another woman. I felt heartbreak that man in real time, was like, wait, what you're telling people I don't even know or even think I care if it's true or not. But if you're going to say to the world that your daughter a man that he promised with a diamond to you that he was gonna take care of your his stepdaughter who stepped in to take care of and she's not allowed to know her grandparents because Todd is the only parent she needs, and all these things.

46:36 Speaker 1: But you said that your daughter's the one that found out about your husband's messages an affair. But you're saying that your own watch what happens left saying there wasn't an affair, So then what did she find? That's trauma to a kid? Like again, we're leveraging children's for storylines. It's a little weird to me, Like, that's trauma to a kid. And I feel like I saw to face be like, oh my god, like that would be his worst nightmare. So whether that did happen didn't happen, I'm leaning towards it probably didn't.

47:09 Speaker 1: And and for her to have shared that and and to be asking about that, he.

47:15 Speaker 2: Was genuinely caught off guard.

47:18 Speaker 1: And I'm like, and then she turned around and did something that really triggered me.

47:23 Speaker 2: Yes, that was weird. I was I'm itchy. She told him, you're okay, You're okay, You're okay.

47:31 Speaker 1: I gotta find the clip. But me has done the same thing to Gordon, and I gotta find it. It's been at least a season or two ago at a reason she did the same thing where he was confronted with something and she was turning around like kind of coach.

47:43 Speaker 2: Him down, and I'm like, yad white me mm hmm.

47:48 Speaker 1: I don't like it. And that made me really sad for him. That made me really saddening because I was like, oh, so, how much is true? And Heather was like, girl, I don't even like you. And you had me riding.

47:58 Speaker 2: Real harf you on that boat and I went on a that if I didn't.

48:00 Speaker 1: Literally hear you say the words a fair yep you said it. And Lisa said, I said on that boat, Todd's not gonna like this when he sees it.

48:11 Speaker 3: And it seems like people who know bron Win know how Todd is and we did.

48:16 Speaker 2: We got the ick.

48:17 Speaker 3: From Todd because this man just is not about real housewives. Not only thought, he.

48:23 Speaker 1: Also wasn't about her, like we are a little concerned and like do you like her?

48:27 Speaker 2: Because we're not. We're used to seeing something different, Like you're saying yeah, and it's like I understand, and lets she's staying for the money.

48:35 Speaker 3: It's very clear, like the ones once.

48:37 Speaker 2: That whole I get it, girl, I get it.

48:40 Speaker 3: Even though even though even though I will say I called her a little broke because you didn't get the four million dollar necklace. What you mean, because that was the highlight of the season. That's why I understood why you took the story back. But if you didn't get the necklace, after all, you didn't buy anything after all, well wait, are you really the rich side?

48:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, looking a little?

49:02 Speaker 1: But then also like, doesn't that mean she fits one on Setic City really well? Because that's pretty much every single one of those women we all thought that were buying homes in the first season.

49:10 Speaker 2: None of them were like.

49:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's okay. But she came on thinking that she was just so different, and I gave her so much, you know, like I'm like, okay, this is so refreshing. Come to turn out, so many different things were happening. And then also with Todd, I was feeling bad for her because when she tried to bring up this entire situation on camera about Gwyn's grandparents. He didn't want to talk about it. They were at the pizza place or wherever the hell they were, and he was like, that's enough.

49:43 Speaker 2: And he basically cut her off.

49:46 Speaker 3: And also I would lecture her about her behavior, and that's why I was like feeling bad for her, because like, you have this husband that is treating you like a child. But then she goes on the reunion and she's like, I am grateful because I learned the way that I speak to him, the women you speak to him.

50:03 Speaker 1: He speaks it's giving, child, so it's giving. Like she knew that the show wouldn't in the fandom, like wouldn't like Todd, and she could spend that right, she's banking on him not watching it.

50:17 Speaker 2: I get that she did not.

50:19 Speaker 1: Think he would ever watch it, and to be honest, I understand that he wouldn't. He doesn't like the type the would think that this is frivolous.

50:25 Speaker 2: This is just for his wife.

50:27 Speaker 1: Doing women's stuff, and he's around because it means that she gets to have something.

50:31 Speaker 2: But in his mind, he did the.

50:33 Speaker 1: Show or showed up so that she could do that and he could be supportive that's like the way he shows love in his like low key.

50:39 Speaker 2: Different way, right.

50:41 Speaker 1: But he also she puts up with a lot, and she let us know that and let us see that. But he doesn't know that that's the perception that she let us have. They page she went on this show to air him the fuck out, and he went on this show to support her. But he's like, I thought you liked the way I loved you, and she's like, in Na, kinda terrible. Just just some background footage just in case I need it, you know, House, I've come on the show to get.

51:09 Speaker 3: Divorced, That's what I'm saying, because I'm like, Okay, if you have all this money, then why the fuck do you want to sit up here and ar you with these women and talk about something that is so personal to you and your child. So clearly you're here with an agenda.

51:24 Speaker 2: Yes, very much, there's nothing else about it.

51:27 Speaker 1: She's here with an agenda, And I don't like that because we also didn't even realize it until the reunion. Like I'm just I shouldn't learn all these new things, new details.

51:36 Speaker 2: In the reunion.

51:37 Speaker 1: Like I'm a teacher, right, I teach children how to write paragraphs and stories and that they don't know how to write a paper, right, they don't know his five paragraphs, even though that's not true, but whatever, And like when you teach them, there's like the topic and then there's like the three details and then conclusion. Yeah, and I always say there should not be any new details in the conclusion.

51:58 Speaker 2: You don't want the.

51:58 Speaker 1: Reader to have done all all that work, get to the very end and go, wait, what the the wh where did the where did he come from?

52:07 Speaker 2: You know what?

52:08 Speaker 3: She Okay, so we're comparing it to your students. She's a student that thinks that she ate because and I'm not going to say that I used to do this, but I did it a couple of times at the conclusion at the end when they put and then I woke up.

52:24 Speaker 2: She's that student. Uh huh.

52:26 Speaker 3: That makes you think it was all dream because then you're like, wait, so that what was real? What was not?

52:30 Speaker 2: Was this dream?

52:30 Speaker 3: D y?

52:31 Speaker 2: Let like did he cheat or not?

52:35 Speaker 3: That's what I want to know. Hello, he's making me kind of money that I think that he's making. The woman that he was texting me is not let to come out and say it because usually this is the part where the side bitch comes out and we find out that as a Bravo fandom, because the Bravo fandom can find anything. But yeah, so she's taking care of she's at her house, she's somewhere on an island somewhere. If you got that kind of money.

52:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, My thing was just always like, did you not think at all that it was going to get back to him that no one watches it? Like you specifically even said like you gave him him his cheating a personality. You gave him an explanation, and you made it so tailored to him as an individual that it made us believe you even more. You said that it's todd he equated it to like, because what did he say?

53:24 Speaker 2: He equitted it like his business.

53:25 Speaker 1: He's always chasing the next deal and he's never really satisfied and it's just his fatal flaw. So you're saying that he took accountability for it. Then you made us feel like he gave you this five piece diamond thing because he didn't vow to be, you know, have fidelity before, so he's doing it now And it was like a and then the people you're letting them link those things together Saal Flaw. He said it was business, it's an emotional affair.

53:49 Speaker 3: I was.

53:50 Speaker 1: He's like, well, I was just using that, like what as an analogy to let us know that you don't feel like you're enough for him. No, you didn't say I don't feel like I'm not enough for Todd. You said that he has had an emotional affair and it sometimes that makes me feel like I'm not enough.

54:06 Speaker 3: This is too detailed for it to be a lie. In my opinion, Thaw either, because if it is a lie, I could I don't want to think that you would bring Gwynn into it, because that would be terrible.

54:22 Speaker 1: I think he was finding out in real time that she divulged all this on the show and that he did not. She didn't wrap him for having answer to this right got there and I and I'm like, because why are you telling him he has a little troublesome, Like that's a little scary. Let him know what he's walking into if you love your husband. And she's like, yeah, we talked about it, did you, Because it's given he don't know what the hell going on. He's like, oh, look, this is really difficult actually, And I'm like hmm.

54:55 Speaker 2: That's an answer that lets me know a lot.

54:58 Speaker 1: He didn't want to throw his wife under the bus and now moment at the moment on TV, but she did not.

55:03 Speaker 2: Tell him what was gonna happen.

55:06 Speaker 3: It's got nice.

55:09 Speaker 2: That's not nice.

55:09 Speaker 1: He's like, I thought we were literally not going to talk about Gwen and our family affairs, like this was the whole thing. I'm beefing this with this lady and her husband across the way because they bring it up when and I'm telling them, don't talk about what she don't know about her life and her family, and you're telling.

55:24 Speaker 2: The whole creep, the whole group.

55:26 Speaker 1: Yes, she found out that I'm supposed to love her, but she also found out that I was cheating on her.

55:30 Speaker 3: Mama.

55:31 Speaker 2: That's crazy.

55:32 Speaker 1: You hate me, bro Yes, this is like when I asked, I wrote in my notes like does Todd like Bronwin and then I scratched it out like ten minutes later.

55:42 Speaker 2: Wrong.

55:44 Speaker 3: That's what we should be asking ourselves here, and nobody is asking that because they are too busy hating Lisa Barlow. When casualty casualty, they're being distracted. Really, take a look at what Bronwood has done here, yes.

56:07 Speaker 1: Now and really also take a look at what like the difference between like someone as de LULUs Meredith and Lulu is Lisa. They make great best friends because they're pretty much the same two sides of the same coin. Like please believe that, like you are hating Lisa for just being delusional and like a little bit aloof and not really able to see outside of herself, which is peak cheek a housewife. By the way, this diabolical other shit, I don't know what that is or where that came.

56:32 Speaker 3: Because we're supposed to like Bronwin because she was supposed to be like the real one, right.

56:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what Mary even said. She said she's a fan favorite because she devotes and tells her life.

56:40 Speaker 2: Well does she?

56:42 Speaker 1: She got props on that boat, but she didn't even tell her husband that she told us about the boat. Hey, you gonna let that man come out there and film for autumn hours and be bombarded by Andy Cohen? Why didn't you think he was gonna ask it? We spent an entire episode rallying behind you because he did this, and then you let those girls the next morning roast your former bff because you were mad at her because she puts you in a different house because you were getting on her nerves, pulling on her coattail, pulling on her arm.

57:11 Speaker 1: Lit Lisa, playing with me, play with me, play with me. And so you let those those hateful girls say that the reason they sided with Tigh is because they some cheaters too, And now you want to tell me Todd didn't even cheat.

57:25 Speaker 2: So man, that's like, then why am I in it? Then? Why am I in it?

57:30 Speaker 3: Thank you?

57:31 Speaker 2: Thank you?

57:32 Speaker 1: That's not fair. We called astray because you wanted to tell about your husband. That's your fault, preach, And he was like, I wasn't even trying to not be your friend.

57:44 Speaker 2: I was just saying that Tar is gonna be pissed when he sees this. And guess what he was.

57:48 Speaker 1: She knew girl, like you said, it seems like they know him outside of this and they know he not go on.

57:56 Speaker 2: This is not uh, I don't know. Like she hugged her, like god damn, he did it, didn't you? Yep? Yep? And I don't get it.

58:09 Speaker 3: And you're over here asking people to edit certain things.

58:12 Speaker 2: Out and edit it out, and you're and then you're mad that it came up on the after show and then like, girl, who are you to have things edited out that you brought? Yeah? Well, you know, people were saying that they believed that, you know, bron Wynn was finding out like or gwyn would have found out because Lisa said on camera that on the reunion that her dad was that when's dad was not alive, and they were like, oh my gosh, she can never see this, like as if that was the first time. And I'm looking at.

58:44 Speaker 1: You like you had me rallying for you in that moment of Oh god, I hope this isn't the way that she finds out about her daddy, but this is the way your husband found out that she threw him.

58:53 Speaker 2: Under the goddamn bus.

58:54 Speaker 1: And it's a double jacker emotional affair, baby daughter with out a the fatherless stepdaughter that she that he stepped into the life to take care of and you know and be a father for.

59:07 Speaker 2: You know, then broach that broke that trust by her.

59:11 Speaker 1: Finding these messages because he was that careless or whatever. Like I just am like, why would you tell us that if he's not gonna be able to answer for that, because.

59:22 Speaker 2: We have we're gonna be concerned.

59:24 Speaker 1: You said it on TV, which means it is fair game for us to bring it up. Which is all Lisa said about the Gwen stuff for the beginning, like just know that you this stuff will live forever and they're gonna watch this or see this. Gwen might see this. The apparently I just she was looking out. I feel like more for this girl's family than she was.

59:46 Speaker 3: That's what people are not catching.

59:49 Speaker 2: You're not catching it.

59:50 Speaker 3: You are too busy being distracted by Browin's hurt for Lisa apparently saying that her the grand parents thought that she had an abortion on camera. Whether that was true or not, maybe that is what them people told Lisa. Lisa was also friends with them people. Lisa is also friends.

1:00:08 Speaker 1: With you, just like you can't shoot the messenger. Don't be mad at Lisa because that's what they said. She's learning, you know what they said, because you're saying something different.

1:00:18 Speaker 2: It's not adding up.

1:00:19 Speaker 1: Have your story together before you get mad at other people for having a different story, Like, have your story together. She was so mad though, that Emma told Lisa that she ain't buy nothing.

1:00:31 Speaker 3: Emma with one m even though that's the only thing I will have to call out Lisa, the girl does not have a job no more. But at the end of the day, why the hell did she said? Why did she text mession?

1:00:53 Speaker 2: She was already.

1:00:54 Speaker 3: Especially of something millions of dollars. That means she got what like a five year.

1:01:00 Speaker 1: Five to your commission, right because in her mind probably she's like, if I had shut down this store or whatever for anyone else to come and film, if it was Lisa Barlow, they probably.

1:01:08 Speaker 2: Would have bought something and I would have gotten paid on top of that, Like, you're not gonna tell me that I'm lying when I got the messages right here, and there's more where's your receipt? How about that?

1:01:19 Speaker 1: Like a little clear where's your yellow paper underneath the white one they had, like the you bought this much money's worth of significant rare crystals in gym.

1:01:29 Speaker 2: Then she says on the and she says on the reunion that she bought something cheaper, which I'm like, okay, brokie.

1:01:37 Speaker 3: But then I'm hearing me with my she and jewelry and it's about to get taxed twenty five percent more. Apparently they're we in trouble anyways, And then I'm hearing that she's I didn't watch that Watch with Happens Live with her on there she said that she never bought anything, or Lisa like they went back and forth on social media, and this is when Lisa was getting all the hate. Apparently she's actually just never bought anything. And I'm just like, well, which is it? This bitch, lie just like me.

1:02:09 Speaker 3: You you just made. You made a great case of Mia and Bronwin having the same liar activities. They're putting their children in their lives, they're divulging things that no one asks, and we're turning on the husbands without the proper amount of information.

1:02:33 Speaker 2: Oh no, I figured it out. Why she is like this?

1:02:39 Speaker 3: What is she?

1:02:40 Speaker 2: She's a sad terrorist? But Lisa is She's not just kidding. Yeah, Lisa's a Sagittarius. Oh no, oh no? Is she a virgo? Yeah, she's a virgo virgo because.

1:03:01 Speaker 1: Half of the people in my life that I love are virgos, and half of the people in months that I absolutely hate and have no contact with our virgos as well, saying there's no in between for me, I've never been lightly into a virgo like me and O virgo lightly get along because exactly so, either I'm that's with you in your great or you've read my life in one way or another.

1:03:23 Speaker 2: It's no hot and clulde with people for contact. My father, my other parent, is a Virgo.

1:03:28 Speaker 3: Makes lu I caught that when you said it, they're.

1:03:31 Speaker 2: Saying, okay, but listen. But my bridesmaid was also a Virgo. So and Kendrick is also a Virgo exactly, but then also apparently so it's win so.

1:03:44 Speaker 3: The Matthew Mathew because for me, I love lying that's Leo.

1:03:48 Speaker 1: Listen, Leo over shady or line Virgo because they gonna get away with it a lot worse and it hurts Virgo.

1:03:57 Speaker 3: There's it's small, aren't and they cover their tracks so smart.

1:04:02 Speaker 2: But Leo.

1:04:03 Speaker 3: Aaron is a Leo and I love, love love Aaron, and I love Leo's in general, but.

1:04:07 Speaker 1: I love also in my life male and female, which is crazy, would.

1:04:11 Speaker 2: Never date them but love them. But also Kylie Jenner is a Leo, so I'm just like see, so there's just but.

1:04:20 Speaker 1: I like I okay, But Kylie of the Kardashians, though it is one of the least annoying ones, like the other ones are so either so bland, they're annoying or so they think they're so not bland that they're also annoying.

1:04:31 Speaker 2: Kindie be like in the cut, like.

1:04:32 Speaker 1: Look, I got my lips son and I got my daughter soonaires like love, we.

1:04:37 Speaker 2: Got imagine dresses.

1:04:40 Speaker 1: That's all she do, Like they don't. She's not trying to sell really nothing. She doesn't even want to be apart her own business.

1:04:46 Speaker 3: Because you've become a billionaire and what there, Like there's just the thing at such a young age, it's like you will, I'm done, I completed the game, you know exactly, But you know, I just I just have a dislike for it, you know.

1:05:03 Speaker 1: But anyways, I'm an apologist even though I hate them, I do I understand it.

1:05:08 Speaker 3: And then also, you know, I'm hot and cold.

1:05:10 Speaker 2: On Lindsey from Summer House, she's a leo and she kisses me off. I'm hot and cold a lot, and I do like her.

1:05:18 Speaker 1: Then I do like her several people on that show though, of the girly she's probably one of my favorites because I'm like, you're annoying, but also like you are here, you are, you're the show, You're the vibe. Like I'm like, I you're funny. I like you your personality like never bored, never bored, like and I appreciate that about a leah.

1:05:36 Speaker 2: They will keep you entertained. But a lie, it is, it's bad. It hurts.

1:05:43 Speaker 1: Like this hurts me, Bronlin, like, I'm looking at this reunion and I'm hurt.

1:05:47 Speaker 3: I'm sad.

1:05:49 Speaker 1: Some of the things that we discovered shows I didn't like, I didn't like. I'm and I have a lot more questions than I had answers.

1:05:55 Speaker 3: She used me very She didn't give me Sagittarius, she gave me excited because I'm a signed. I'm like, okay, so she's very Capricorn though, but I do.

1:06:05 Speaker 2: Love a Capricorn. That's why we're bff because Capricorn.

1:06:09 Speaker 1: Exactly, you're don't want to look at everybody else like what the hell right.

1:06:13 Speaker 3: We're the most grounded people because signs. Yeah, so it's when we when we lie, it's like, okay, you're never going to find this out.

1:06:24 Speaker 1: No, No, That's why Todd didn't know until upon arrival that she played the funk out of him on TV, and by that.

1:06:32 Speaker 3: Time, she already knew that she's solidified another season.

1:06:35 Speaker 2: Okay, boom, I ain't gonna be mad at you. If you're gonna want a scam and you are going to get a divorce, this is the way to do it.

1:06:40 Speaker 3: What's what's Mia signed though?

1:06:43 Speaker 2: Mia Mia Thornton. Oh.

1:06:45 Speaker 1: I think I looked this up recently because some things, some of the things she was playing games with.

1:06:50 Speaker 2: I was like, this doesn't feel good, this feels bad like she is.

1:06:59 Speaker 1: Oh boy, Oh, I think I had this conversation with Kendrick, but I think I had it with Kendred.

1:07:06 Speaker 2: Yep, she's a Sagittarist.

1:07:10 Speaker 3: Okay, so Traders was Traders is good? This we wasn't it? Because I'm bad about Sir.

1:07:21 Speaker 1: I already got the I already feel like I pissed off the sagittarists last week when I called him a sagittarist.

1:07:27 Speaker 2: You just said sagittarist. It again. I'm actually tripling down in it. But I love you.

1:07:33 Speaker 1: If you're listening to this one and you're a I'm just gonna choose to believe that if you're a mixologist and a sagittarist, sagittary.

1:07:40 Speaker 2: Yes, you're not a sagitt terrorist.

1:07:43 Speaker 1: In someone else's life, but if you are, just don't let it be my child because.

1:07:48 Speaker 3: It's relative, right, It's relative.

1:07:51 Speaker 1: Because Mia is a sagit terrorist in a couple people's lives right now, and that's we're watching it.

1:07:56 Speaker 3: And then it's also like Kildrick will tell you, it's different months. Kendrick likes December Capricorns, so that's why me and him get along.

1:08:03 Speaker 2: I do like December capricorns. January capricorns he don't really like too much. They're really tough.

1:08:11 Speaker 1: My firstborn dog is a Capricorn and he's tough. Have to love to, have to get loved on by I, have to get loved from, to have to know where we stand some talking.

1:08:23 Speaker 2: About the prey, other times we're not. It just depends on the month.

1:08:29 Speaker 3: It depends on where the moon. That's why you guys don't understand how and I will. I will preach this every time I talk about astrology. If astrology can affect the way that the ocean moves, like if the moon's position could affect the way that the ocean.

1:08:47 Speaker 2: Moves and things on Earth happen, how could you not think that the planets can't affect you and you were just one person? Girl? It will you know? I love to tell people all the time.

1:08:58 Speaker 1: You have to believe that there's something to it because the word lunatic is specifically based off of the fact that the moon cause the tide to get high and the girlies would literally go crazy. The moon's energy would pull on some water and the girls would start losing their ship. It's real, it's real, And so we got lunatic, Like, oh no, they go to lunatics again.

1:09:21 Speaker 2: The moon is not where to go. They bobbing around aging that ship. That's what happened.

1:09:28 Speaker 3: That's what that's simply what happened. This all happened.

1:09:33 Speaker 1: Who believes in astrology was the best, okay? And I just also think that that's really crazy because my littlest dog, my baby dog, she's a December Capricorn, and I know where she stays with me. She loves yeah, and she would tell you. She would tell me when everyone she freeze herself up. She wants to be independent. She'll cut on when she wants to cut on, and she's like, all right, I'm good, thanks, Yes, I don't have a lot of questions about where we stand. But that other one of mine that I love, it's like do you like me?

1:10:08 Speaker 1: But then I'm like you do today pets very apprehensively. Okay, listen, Okay, we can talk about this.

1:10:18 Speaker 2: Stuff all day.

1:10:18 Speaker 1: I'm avoiding the fact that Traders is so crazy right now, let's.

1:10:24 Speaker 3: I don't even know. You have to leave this conversation because at this point I just.

1:10:31 Speaker 1: So out of control. They have no idea what's going on. They are doing a bad job. Let's start there. The Faith Books are doing a bad job. The Traders are doing a bad job. Everyone's doing a bad job, y'all. If you want to pause here because you haven't finished or watched where, you're gonna spoil the hell out of this episode, So please go do that. But otherwise, if you are in the loop and caught up, or you need to figure out if you're gonna go watch it, or you don't have time and you just want us to, you know, tell you you missed here.

1:11:00 Speaker 2: It is Boston. Rob is here again.

1:11:05 Speaker 1: I don't know how he's I really thought we had him. I really thought I really thought we were going to get And I really am mad at Carolyn and Danielle for being so caught up in They bit shitt.

1:11:20 Speaker 2: Be betrayed by each other. They're the girly drama.

1:11:23 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, it's not the time for us to have girl trauma and call out each other. We need to unite, take out this man, and then we could scrap a New York.

1:11:32 Speaker 3: That's what I've been trying to scream through my screen since probably episode two or three.

1:11:40 Speaker 2: Not even two.

1:11:41 Speaker 3: Actually, when they had to go in that water and the housewives had to be the one to get out of the water, and none of the men dedicate themselves to get out of the water other than Bob the Dragon and Bob Harper, I was like, oh, it needs to be girls and gage against the straight men because I see what's going on here.

1:12:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was given.

1:12:01 Speaker 1: They were uncomfortable and that's why they were trying to, you know, maneuver their way around who they really wanted to play with. And that's what Bostar Rob's been pretty much doing since he got there. And I don't like that. But I really thought, like, we can obviously get into the other nitty gritty and fun parts. But I really thought that at this round sip. But we had it because two other straight cis strong girl, aggressive white men were saying, Hey, that one over there is a bad guy, and I was like, we hello, that's all we needed.

1:12:27 Speaker 2: A woman's not threatening him.

1:12:28 Speaker 1: We're calling him out, no one for him to speed roll or you know, do like demolish or bull joe over.

1:12:34 Speaker 2: We are good, we can handle this.

1:12:36 Speaker 1: And I y'all have me out here agreeing with this white man when he was like, I just really hope y'all are gonna feel like idiots when we vote out somebody because of a personality flaw and the way we don't like that way he talks.

1:12:50 Speaker 2: To us, and we don't like his attitude. That doesn't mean he's a trader.

1:12:56 Speaker 1: We're using a vote to get to vote Gillian off the island, but we actually have a job to do here, Like, do not vote that man please?

1:13:03 Speaker 2: With the beard? He's like, I'm just mean.

1:13:06 Speaker 3: Hello, I've never met a mean person before.

1:13:11 Speaker 1: He's like, how do you think I win all these games? You think I'm a nice guy?

1:13:14 Speaker 2: No one? And I'm telling you I'm not just trying to throw you off the scind You're all dumb. It's him.

1:13:20 Speaker 3: I'm just meaning a big Okay.

1:13:22 Speaker 2: Do you think that if he would not have threatened everyone.

1:13:28 Speaker 3: Do you think that would problem that?

1:13:31 Speaker 2: I think maybe they would have thought about it.

1:13:33 Speaker 1: But that's why I'm like, I don't like the way that these girlies are playing like they're girly politics.

1:13:38 Speaker 2: And I don't mean girly like in a feminine way.

1:13:40 Speaker 1: I mean girly is in like there is an obvious little like clickie click.

1:13:44 Speaker 2: Thing that they're playing.

1:13:47 Speaker 1: They're playing a different game than the other girls who are playing like these men who are from like a cop fraternal order type thing who have done all that.

1:13:56 Speaker 2: They're playing real traders, and then you got your girly girls and like bob age and what is Dylan and Tom saying it all? Even look who are playing a different game.

1:14:09 Speaker 3: They're over the list.

1:14:11 Speaker 2: Something shouldn't even be here.

1:14:13 Speaker 1: But like they had him on the camera the entire episode though, because he's weird.

1:14:17 Speaker 3: I think that the camera people are like, hey, you hate this guy, but is he okay? Do you see how much precido he's somefughing in his mouth. This man is eating us out of castle.

1:14:33 Speaker 1: In home, like literally detoxing. And they keep putting him on the screen.

1:14:38 Speaker 3: And be like like, y'all see this, y'all see this. I know y'all hate him, but look at this ship.

1:14:44 Speaker 2: Look at it. Look at it, look at it. It's a light.

1:14:50 Speaker 1: Listen, listen, He's gonna be Matthew for a second, Like, we know that.

1:14:54 Speaker 3: This game plays fishing you off, but look at what.

1:14:57 Speaker 2: Looking at it? His hair greasy to that?

1:15:01 Speaker 3: Say it? Okay? What he says next, I think the lords.

1:15:07 Speaker 2: Like what seriously? They look at him all episode and like Tom, be quiet.

1:15:15 Speaker 3: Then they're like, that's why we're not even worried about you being a trader.

1:15:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're the hell's going on? Even if you.

1:15:22 Speaker 3: Get to the end, you still don't know what the fuck we're doing here. So you could just say, but that's my thing.

1:15:28 Speaker 1: If we're not gonna use like a random popularity vote to be like Santavo is the worst and he's annoying and bad at this game, let's banish him, then we shouldn't have done it to that man with the lumberjack beard.

1:15:39 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1:15:40 Speaker 3: This is the thing, though I don't know the man.

1:15:42 Speaker 2: I don't think out.

1:15:43 Speaker 3: Of here why they would choose west Over like I would. I wouldn't have thought that they would choose Wes because they know that he's a good game player. Blah blah, blah. But the thing that that they were bringing up is accurate. He got Bob the drag Queen out his first daid basically, So from that alarm bells are agreeing, Yes, I would have voted if we have to get him out, then.

1:16:16 Speaker 2: Yes the immediate threat.

1:16:18 Speaker 1: And they were just and they all like they just didn't like being told what to do. And I'm like, that's not that you're gonna lose. You're gonna lose this game because it requires intail, reliable intail from people who are convincing or solid enough that like you just have to trust it and keep going or have something better to offer. But Sandy, you don't like the way Wes talks to you. So he might be a trader, because traders have to be mean. No, no, you are like likable, nice, they're all these things.

1:16:47 Speaker 1: But this other man is like laying out call our facts as to why this man is the trader.

1:16:52 Speaker 3: Hard facts in addition to the fact that he is robbed, because he is this kind of person, like he has a reputation, just like what's has a reputation. I'm finding out that apparently rob he's even he's even better than less in certain ways. In certain strategy games, so.

1:17:15 Speaker 1: Hello, like, I just it made me. I think even Boston Rob was shook that he got through.

1:17:22 Speaker 2: Yep, at the end he was.

1:17:24 Speaker 3: He was, and you can see in the terror he's like, well a fight, let's let let's let the house self destruggle. Because I'm skating through.

1:17:34 Speaker 1: I have no idea how they're going to have their next Traders meeting. It's going to be absolute chaos. It is on somebody else again.

1:17:44 Speaker 3: I know, though, are you do you think that this is a good kind of chaos? Like are you enjoying it? Or is it like kind of annoying.

1:17:55 Speaker 1: It's a little annoying as I had to, but I don't. I didn't hate this episode because I've shifted gears to being like they're gonna play this well, a Trader's gonna get the money. Like I'm pretty positive about that. Whoever it isn't being I do think they're playing pretty recklessly. They're not playing well. So now I'm just watching for the entertainment value of these people like being chickens with their heads cut off, absolutely lost, and then like being manipulated.

1:18:20 Speaker 2: I don't know which way they're gonna flip.

1:18:21 Speaker 1: One way or the other, like depending on which person is loud enough or like which white man.

1:18:26 Speaker 2: Is strong enough in his convictions. They are all like moving across the board.

1:18:30 Speaker 1: So I am here to watch that in the fashions, which is also why I was sad that bob Ah went out, because I like the way he's been dressing. He's been cute, Alan's been cute. We're just down to less cute people. That's sad, and we're losing, you know, our people of color.

1:18:48 Speaker 2: So getting loss.

1:18:49 Speaker 1: So now I have to just kind of go with the find the entertainment value where it is, you know what I mean?

1:18:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think my thing is is as soon as they went after all the house lives, I was like, okay, well, automatically less fun. Then I had to adjust to the fact that, like I was like, okay, at least we got like the Bambis and you know, and then the banbies found each other. And I don't know if y'all know, but I am a Bella stam like Nicky Bella, Nicky Garcia, like do.

1:19:23 Speaker 2: We talk about this?

1:19:24 Speaker 3: Yes, girl, we know that girl, and y'all put my girl, Nicki Bella out. I was pitch but.

1:19:34 Speaker 1: Also again for a personality blow. And I don't like that we're doing this wrong. We're just like voting on a popularity contest then being I'd love Chrishchelle. But it's giving bad judge of character because she's like, I'm so sorry if I'm wrong. It's just that the way that you spoke it really made me feel But does that mean mean they are a trader because they made you upset?

1:19:56 Speaker 2: You like they spend the money time together? All right?

1:20:00 Speaker 1: She was like, you would be a little bit less or a little bit more this or less that. And she's like, this is just who I am.

1:20:06 Speaker 2: Not to mention. I'm like, she's going through a hard time. Can I give her a break?

1:20:10 Speaker 1: She's not going to be happy, go lucky, gung ho all the time if she's a faithful because she just went through a hard time. We don't know what happened with that man that she's divorcing. She has a son, lots going on, lots going on. I don't know how the wine's doing. I don't know how there's no show anymore. I don't know where her income's coming from. A rester have a job, like we have a lot going on in her life. And you're over here talking about you just didn't seem like you were that gung ho for being a faithful.

1:20:35 Speaker 3: And they're filming eleven, twelve, thirteen hours a day, just put in a motherfucking coffin. Y'all are doing like all these different challenges.

1:20:45 Speaker 2: Like I'm tired, Like I'm not let I couldn't.

1:20:50 Speaker 3: They would get me out the first night. They would the Trader automatically.

1:20:54 Speaker 2: That's the thing.

1:20:56 Speaker 1: And that's why I'm like, I wasn't thrilled about Sierra being there because I'm like, I think she's a good judge character. She's best as a beta. That's just the facts, Like there's the certain people who have the energy of like non main characters, and as beautiful as he her is, she's not playing smart. And so I'm just like, there's one that's like, you know that that bites to us. Robin, wassn't gonna play smart dolorous. I love her, but she's such a loyal girly like she's look, she's not gonna even play this based on that.

1:21:27 Speaker 1: She's all about loyalty. If someone like her one time, she's like you a trader, that's it. It's someone said that Deloras said that. I never said that they're a trader, and that's it. Don't lie on Delorius and you're a trader.

1:21:41 Speaker 2: You know.

1:21:45 Speaker 3: But can't sat over there in Jersey, I'm sorry.

1:21:49 Speaker 2: Never had no Northeast housewife over there. Derenda and Dolores weren't the ones, especially when we got rid of the Rena. So we're not ever gonna keep her around for fun.

1:21:57 Speaker 3: That's for at least two episodes, especially when she like. That's why I was like, the producers need to step in at a certain point because I have people that you gave me the bait and switch. You got all of these fans because you put people on, not just Bravo, but you put bachelor people on. You put you know, like reality TV.

1:22:18 Speaker 2: Like fun people, not good people, not.

1:22:22 Speaker 3: Just challenged, not just Survivor, not not these serious games. I'm not there for serious gameplay. And now that you got rid of them, then now I'm there for serious gameplay, and you're not giving me serious gameplay. So it's just pissing me off.

1:22:36 Speaker 1: And see, like I even like the Survivor girlies, but brother, it's too much because I don't watch it. I can't watch that and Survivors too much much a lot, but like they gave us a lot of good quality reality girlies from other things, and this is the season I feel like they finally got it right, like where the cast.

1:22:53 Speaker 2: Looked really good.

1:22:54 Speaker 1: Give her take a few that I'm like, I don't understand what we have this person here, but like it's nice to have representation from all the shows. Sure, like the Summerhouse ran upump rules.

1:23:02 Speaker 2: We don't expect them to actually do really st egypt thinking, but like you know, but I just like we're happy that they're there.

1:23:11 Speaker 1: And I loved Gabby Wendy. I love that she was a bachelorette that went on the show and then became gay.

1:23:15 Speaker 2: That's fantastic.

1:23:17 Speaker 1: First time it's happened, not the first time it's happened, Probably the first time we know about it.

1:23:21 Speaker 3: Right because on a different Bachelorrette season, no Bachelor season.

1:23:27 Speaker 2: Not American, I think this was. It might have been China or one of the Asian ones. Two girls left. I stay with Vietnam because yes, I've seen that clip about forty Yeah, they were like actually actually fell in love with each other each other great, and we're gonna oh or Australia. White people did it too. It was a white couple.

1:23:45 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, it's happened more than once, but America don't want you to don't want you to know that.

1:23:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I love that. Gabby was like, I just dated twenty five men and I wasn't interested in any of them.

1:23:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it happened though.

1:23:59 Speaker 2: She one woman with that girl ever said, and I love that for her, and I like I like her on the show. But I just I don't know.

1:24:10 Speaker 3: It's something about this this cast right now that we have. I guess maybe the traders are pus seeing me off more than anyone else because they're.

1:24:18 Speaker 1: The ones don't have the traders. They're not pausing the right amount. They're not doing like well developed chaos. I mean, we spent the first four episodes getting rid of housewives who are no threat. We talked about this on your show. They're not like at all, there was no reason to get rid of them at all.

1:24:34 Speaker 2: But these girlies over here, you know, Dylan and the girlies who were on the different dating shows and the Song that and all the Lord, all of them, they're playing a different game than the serious ones who came in here, like yeah, we're serious. I'm like, but now they're playing a different game too, so it just is like, I'm really just watching for the entertainment value of the chaos at this point. And I'm pretty sure that whoever the trade the Traders will probably get, the Trader will win, and this I think, and it is deserved.

1:25:05 Speaker 1: But I also don't think it's going to be the same three that we that we have right now. I'm hoping I can't already gone for each other like it's you, it's you.

1:25:15 Speaker 3: I can't wait until the twist comes because I want to see who it's going to be standing there at the end, And I hope the Traders get it because the Faithfuls are acting ridiculous and the Traders are also like I'm like, can it be that no one gets surprised, because kind of both sides are pissing me off.

1:25:38 Speaker 2: Have you been watching The Traders since season one? No?

1:25:42 Speaker 3: I only watched it when Faeder came on. That was that I watched it, And then I went back and I watched Trader season one because Resil was on the Mayor and I was like, okay, cool, but this is this has been my least favorite season out of this.

1:25:57 Speaker 1: That's the thing I was about to say Season one was good. I actually ed up doing some Survivor rewatch because of Suri, who won the first season of The Traders. It was really deserving for her because she basically she went on Survivor so many times and she got.

1:26:12 Speaker 2: All the way like so so close. She should have won a lot of these times and she just didn't. So to see her win and it was like very like affirming.

1:26:22 Speaker 1: But that was the time that it made sense that it also that a Trader made it to the end. She played amazing as a Trader because of her Survivor background. But that just goes to show, look, if you're if you're a good trader, you'll be a good trader.

1:26:33 Speaker 2: Doesn't matter the show. Because these other Survivor Big Brother girlies are doing terrible, the whole lot of them.

1:26:39 Speaker 3: Poor.

1:26:40 Speaker 2: I don't know who I'd want to see be a Trader, but I'm ready for them to switch this less serious.

1:26:47 Speaker 3: So like let's get bust gotta.

1:26:51 Speaker 1: Go because he's a bulldozer, so he'll belutle doze anybody and then are gonna take They're gonna double assassin each other and just take each other out right. I'm like, do y'all not remember that you're both traders. So when you say she's a trader, no, she's a trader, I'm like.

1:27:04 Speaker 3: And then Caroline doesn't understand that you need to literally handle that ship later on, like there was no.

1:27:11 Speaker 2: Way that you were going to get Dan yell out and you shouldn't do that right now. That is both of your cover and.

1:27:18 Speaker 3: She understands that she and even Danielle is also.

1:27:22 Speaker 2: Like, well, if you do that, then I'm going to do this, and they're like, there be planning to soak the struggle.

1:27:28 Speaker 3: And that's why Robin is just so comfortable sitting there with his dick.

1:27:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, that's the one. Huh.

1:27:36 Speaker 1: And on that note, on a note of rob sitting there with his dick out, I'm just so glad that if I have to go through all of these things.

1:27:45 Speaker 2: I went through it with U. K Oh my god. Atlanta's re trailer came out too, so did it?

1:27:51 Speaker 3: Sure did show?

1:27:54 Speaker 2: What about your thoughts about King his relationship with this trailer, I'm just glad that we're getting Kenya.

1:28:02 Speaker 4: I don't like, I know it was wrong, but that was the most iconic part of the trailers to me a little confused at what, like what the ethics are of the show, because we're getting rid of Kenya for this revenge porn thing, but we're bringing back Phedra after her like a sexual assault allegation rumors if.

1:28:26 Speaker 3: The other I don't know, And are you even going to force her to actually address it? If she's just gonna come off the plane for marriage medicine and then go and have lunch with Aforscha, No, Like I need to know why are you here? Why did you leave in the first place?

1:28:41 Speaker 4: Yeah?

1:28:42 Speaker 1: Or and then also addressed in Kenya, if she's going to be in it, you need to then address her exit and why.

1:28:48 Speaker 2: But it's just given, Like I don't really know what our standards are.

1:28:51 Speaker 1: It'd be different if we bought back anybody else and not someone who was fired for literally the same ball park of things, you know what I mean, like a sexual assault type thing like this is if Portia or Candy wanted to file like any kind of charges, it could be for defamation or something like, but before saying that you were going to sexually assault someone, right, But then what Kenya did is technically categorized as a version of sexual assault if you do this revenge porn thing, blew it up, allegedly brought it like you know, all that stuff that is also considered that so if it's good for the goose, right, But again, I don't get none, you.

1:29:30 Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. I don't understand what we couldn't.

1:29:32 Speaker 3: Add bro k low notes dose and it's because I can't address the fact that production had something to do with Phaedria's situation.

1:29:46 Speaker 2: Uh huh m.

1:29:48 Speaker 3: So it's like, how are you going to handle this? But overall, I understand that people are not loving the cast photo. They think it's love and hip hoppy. I mean, I do think that they could have elevated it. The only person who I feel didn't fit on that cast photo was Shamia, because what are you doing?

1:30:09 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, yeah, the trailer.

1:30:11 Speaker 3: Did not give me love hip hop. The trailer gave me money.

1:30:14 Speaker 2: It gave me at ladies, we have three new ladies.

1:30:18 Speaker 1: I posted it on my Instagram page with MANI I we have three new ladies.

1:30:24 Speaker 2: So that's really cute. See, they all seem to be wealthy and not just from like marrying a.

1:30:29 Speaker 1: Celebrity person like they have like an insurance mavin like it's giving Vicky like black Vicky gumbleson and we love that. We love it working girly. Hell yeah you and we have like a real estate mogul. And now I'm like, okay, yes, the Empire love that generational wealth, the whole thing, right, we have some newness there. It was Cynthia's back. I was like, she's cute. She looks fantastic. In those photos it may have looked love and hip hop, but they certainly didn't look like love and hip hop.

1:30:55 Speaker 2: They were beat to the gods breath and stuff looked cute. See on them.

1:30:58 Speaker 1: They look their bodies banging, hair looked great and faces did not decline.

1:31:04 Speaker 3: And Porsche coming back with the whatever you like.

1:31:08 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1:31:11 Speaker 3: No Porsche runs things, and you guys, they're not going to put everything in this first trailer. This comes out in March. We are a gift. What we are going to do is give Atlanta a chance.

1:31:24 Speaker 2: Period.

1:31:25 Speaker 3: I would not have anything other than that. I understand that some of y'all didn't really like it. I understand that some of y'all think that the photo shoot was cheap, but there was nothing in that trailer that didn't want me to ask for more.

1:31:40 Speaker 1: I want more, including to watch it. Yes, I wanted to see more, like so that's really giving me hope. Atlanta comes back pretty soon. I think it's March March.

1:31:53 Speaker 3: I think sixteenth, is it March sixteenth.

1:31:56 Speaker 1: March ninth, marchas in sixteen, So yeah, that's why. Yeah, March ninth, March ninth, and then the Potomac Reunion it starts February sixteenth, and Salt Lake City wraps up with one more part. The finalees of Potoma comes out tonight or this first Sunday or what has just happened if you're just if you're listening to this now, so about that when the reunion is about to come out and listen. It's a lot happening in the TV right now, but I feel I'm having the time.

1:32:32 Speaker 2: What happened a great time.

1:32:33 Speaker 3: I don't need this because I need to disconnect from my real life because things are about worse and this is better, and I need y'all to be filming stuff to take me away, because one thing about it, I always have even if I don't have my own direct TV or Exfinity or whatever it may be, I will always be able to get someone else's streaming password, so I am going to be able to disconnect your reality. And that's how I've been surviving for a long time. So I'm having a great time, whether it's Traders, whether it's Housewives.

1:33:12 Speaker 3: Netflix had young young favorites and African.

1:33:16 Speaker 2: Love that every time I'm on time every season Bring Empire.

1:33:21 Speaker 3: Uh, well it got canceled, but good rewatched Dubai Bling by Bling It's qutt listen. I know there's a lot of discourse around the New Wags, but that was entertaining to watch.

1:33:34 Speaker 2: Whether I am watching it, I'm very disappointed in a Griller too.

1:33:43 Speaker 3: So regardless, I am going and then I'm a Zeus girl. I don't care I'm watching.

1:33:48 Speaker 2: I'm not watching Aaron coonmena show. She can go eat a dick like play it about Safari, although I am interested in the fact that it's bisexual and did that ship that.

1:34:00 Speaker 3: Also effects Sequila because she ended up turning into.

1:34:03 Speaker 2: Also like a terrible Nazi person.

1:34:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's just like, can someone else that is that it's Pam or By get a show and yeah, buy representation needs better than the bigger girl, like you know what I don't want to see nonm bigoted by is what we need, right Like I don't want to see Mia do this should have get on Potomac. But if she goes on Zeus, I don't want to see her family. I just want to see her.

1:34:34 Speaker 2: And Jacqueline would come in there and like yell at people. It would be great. Exactly, it would be great.

1:34:40 Speaker 1: Mea would bring her on there like her best friend consultant, and she would lay low key throws shaded all the girls because she's jealous.

1:34:46 Speaker 2: It would be great.

1:34:47 Speaker 3: And the last thing that I do want to say before I leave this podcast, because thank you for inviting me on, but I had I told you that I had so much to say about so much shit. But I want to say that Melody finally left Loving Marriage Huntsville. I understand that now he is in Wow Hunt at the end of the era, I understand that she's in Huntsville, but she goes to Atlanta a lot. I would like Andy Cohen to have a conversation.

1:35:13 Speaker 2: I know Carlos King would beat my ask, but listen, and he won't beat Andy, So let's go ahead and do it.

1:35:20 Speaker 3: Andy having conversation either Atlanta or if we are losing Karen for a season, bring her over to DC. She can go DC.

1:35:28 Speaker 2: Melody is a.

1:35:31 Speaker 3: You don't think Melody could go to Potomac.

1:35:33 Speaker 1: I do, but there is like there's no Southern there's no at least on Love and Mary Johnsville. There's some reserves sometimes because they are Southern, so there are just certain they don't pull they pull punches sometimes and they don't let big things, you know, blow up until like it's absolutely necessary. They're not dropping big bombs until like you've really pissed them off. But on Potomac, Giselle walk in the door with.

1:35:57 Speaker 2: Your mistress, Yeah, you know what love a marriage.

1:36:02 Speaker 1: But I can be here on Atlanta, where they at least are a little bit more Southern hospital like they're a little bit more like.

1:36:08 Speaker 2: With Grace, a touch, a tad, do exactly that.

1:36:16 Speaker 1: And she's not gonna be on there, so we could do it like you're gonna have a little bit of a time out like the way I think Melody would work. She I could see her in port either getting along or having deep issues, and I can get both of those.

1:36:26 Speaker 3: We talk, will be construct that for Bravo We're Black.

1:36:31 Speaker 1: Yes, Oh my god, I cannot wait, especially for this season of Black History months and that's gonna be lit.

1:36:38 Speaker 2: Listen. Thank y'all for supporting this podcast. This is part of black history.

1:36:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, we're talking about things that are making history to us so period, like, thank you all for supporting this Dee Adventure versifying your podcast. We know everyone else's you know, we know your funds are important and we know that they are limited something.

1:37:00 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. Thank you for well while you still can listen to us. I'm sorry. It's really hard not to genuinely think that, like the everything is gone to shit and not have a pessimistic view, which is why I needed to record with Kaya. I was like, for my mental health, I actually need to talk to Kaya, do a go through the shows, watch something else other than the news or Instagram, and like live a little like live another day. And that is what this helps me do. So I'm hoping if you all like this and it helps you live a little longer, love a little longer, breathe a little bit more.

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1:37:54 Speaker 2: Leave a little review.

1:37:55 Speaker 1: Review'd be like, you know, I just love her, I just love Keya, I love Aaron shout out to the leos.

1:38:00 Speaker 2: Leave a review. I like to get people prompts.

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1:38:36 Speaker 2: In my life.

1:38:38 Speaker 3: Listen, we all have a sign that we don't like.

1:38:44 Speaker 1: It's so crazy. It's so crazy because really, I actually don't. I love cancers, but they're so emotional and me as a tourist and as an Earth sign, but as a trus I'm like, please stop crying.

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1:39:05 Speaker 3: Sorrow, yes, but like lave a review.

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1:39:25 Speaker 2: So do that. Go shout out to all the other girlies this month.

1:39:28 Speaker 1: Shout out to Kendrick and you know and Terria and what else is going on and with I cannot with Kendrick Tucker. Shout out to Stephanie and Micha minutes and go listen to Bitches Better by Raven. Like, am I missing people? There's so many of them now. I remember once upon a time there were not, so I'm really glad that we even can like have a list of all the people that y'all can go support. And again, listen to the ads. Just let it play on low and put the transcript. Uh okay, yes, just do that, and at the very least let it play at the end.

1:40:05 Speaker 1: Put your new up next podcast on next and let it play at the end the end. Ass, it's not gonna cost you nothing. You can go do something real quick. Go to the right, you know, run a quick air come back, it plays your next podcast, no problem. Okay, those end ones run. That's where they put the bulk up. Y'all, so much for listening, Kyle. Where can they find you on the things?

1:40:27 Speaker 2: Oh at black everywhere, including Venmo in case there's any white guilt and reparations out there.

1:40:35 Speaker 3: Thank you for inviting me. I love you so much and I will talk to you soon.

1:40:39 Speaker 2: I'm so glad.

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