Do He Even Love Her??? W/Kendrick Tucker (I Ken Not Podcast)

0:22 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologist out there. What's up, y'all? It's your girl mon here, I mean here, I come back again. Look Okay, she give her own mixed or twice it's given. She's like, not OZ. It's giving not Oz. Okay. Like I know, y'all sometimes think that the mix with Money is very much so like oz by the Darby's, But it's not. It's not true. That building is still standing and it is still unoccupied mixing money, guys. Let's starting off astrong from a shade because it is a beautiful day to record with the one and only Kendrick, host of I Cannot Podcast, the acclaimed renowned TV review and pop culture podcast.

1:12 Speaker 1: Y'all, it's like but also here he's just a good friend to us all and a great person to still the key and have a key key with. Welcome back, Kendrick. How you doing?

1:25 Speaker 2: Oh my god? I am good.

1:27 Speaker 3: I don't know what it is about this microphone, but this dog wants to mind her beingess right until I sit in front of it.

1:34 Speaker 2: And now she just has to sit right next to me.

1:36 Speaker 3: I don't know what it is bothering me, licking me unless she does this Paul motion every time, trying to get my attention.

1:43 Speaker 1: I don't know what.

1:44 Speaker 3: And now she's walking off and now she's going to I don't know what's happening, but okay, at yeah, if she ain't got it all day, it's okay.

1:53 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, Hell on your world, right you've got But baby, don't you know that that it's gonna work so that you can have those trees? Okay, yes, do exactly. That's what I tell nobody. When he comes up in here and he's like, so can I be here? I'm like, if you can behave? And he's like, well, if you would just pay attention to me, I wouldn't misbehave.

2:20 Speaker 2: Okay, that's the problem.

2:23 Speaker 1: I just simply want to do what I need to do so that you can get those organic little chicken stew PACs that you like over your kibble and whatnot a nice treasure. Okay. He's very piggy all the way piggy. You can't just give him no dry ass regular kibble. He has to have in it, accout your mom. He likes seasoning. He has a specific way he likes his steaks. Swear to god, I know people think I'm crazy. But he does have a specific way he likes. It's very true. It's very true. He won't eat a certain kind, like a certain new temperature, but if it is like well done, he'll eat it.

3:02 Speaker 1: It's so crazy. He's like, I'm not doing that kind of labor on my teeth and I want to and I'm like that, oh yeah, Like he doesn't like raw me. But if I take chicken out of the oven, if I take it out, I will open the oven. He will smell chicken it's cooked and be like, that's for me, That's what I'm here for. Get to the kitchen door. He's not a lot in the kitchen, but he'll stop at the door and be.

3:24 Speaker 3: Like, I love right, you know, my kitchen table right there. Every time I sit down just to have a little meal or quick meal by myself. Oh, she's right there underneath me around She's just like, you know, no, I'm just here just if you know, if you if you want to throw something down, it's.

3:39 Speaker 2: Okay, Like I won't mind get it. You know, we'll clean it up. It's okay. You know, it's just all right time for me.

3:47 Speaker 1: I'm like, he won't leave, he'll just lay down in front of me and be like, I'm just because you change your mind so and he's still waiting. I always change my mind every time. My wife never changes her mind. She is he ate her Popeye's one time and she was like, let me tell you something. It's a wrap. It's a no for me dog. She's still mad about it and it was like three years ago, but she's so upset so she has never let it go, so she won't even give him that inch. So listen, listen, y'all who have dogs, you know, these dogs are picky.

4:21 Speaker 1: They're basically humans. They're the size of humans. They have the you know, needs and the responses of humans. I have doodles, so they talk a lot. They just won't shut up. And those who have those like talking to dogs understand you know who else won't shut up because we have so much to get through today, these wives, man, oh boy, exactly. I explicitly called Kendrick carry'all today because The Secret Lives of Mormon Wife season two has come out, and I saw that our friend Kindred here was watching it, and I had already it had already consumed my life, the tom line of myself and those around me, it is consumed my household.

5:05 Speaker 1: I've met a monster out of my wife. She's a terrible Let me tell you something. If I fall asleep in the middle of an important episode like a Satsan center's party between the girls of mom Talk, you best believe your job is not only to pause it and wake me up, It is certainly not to continue watching it while I sleep. Right, And she said to me, it was so good I could not turn it off. I said, are you kidding me?

5:32 Speaker 2: You know what?

5:33 Speaker 1: I literally even forgot about the game. She forgot about the playoffs, damn, which I never that never happened. She was like, I forgot to turn the game back.

5:42 Speaker 2: On, and this happened, like the Knicks winning the Pacers.

5:47 Speaker 1: It was wild. She had to find out about two games so far, and my wife does not miss a playoff's time. She had to find out about two games on the internet because I put it on during I put The Secret Lives on during House Us half time half time.

6:03 Speaker 2: And that's how you do it.

6:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how you do it, because the episode will be a solid hour.

6:09 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yes, there and the girls. That's how you get them. That's how you get them interested because they're like, okay, just doing half time, just so you don't leave right back. You need ten minutes there in I promise everything.

6:25 Speaker 3: List don't nobody want to see the mascot dance. Don't nobody want to see Listen.

6:32 Speaker 1: If it's not Ellie, it's not entertaining. And one thing I know about the Taylor franky Paul, She's gonna pull you in. Okay, yes that's going. Now wait a minute.

6:42 Speaker 2: What I love her?

6:47 Speaker 3: I love her, my girl, give me season three right now, two, B three, whatever, I don't care.

6:58 Speaker 1: I need it for those And this is a non spoiler double or we're even gonna say I'll save secret lives till the end so that if you haven't finished, you can like, wait a second, and I'm probably want to do like a nice little deep dog with me and k are in the talks because we can't stop talking about it. We can't shut up. Right, I'm already my rewatch and I just finished twenty four hours ago. All I want to say is is, producers, if you can put a little trailer at the end of the final episode that lets me know that that's not the final episode, release it now.

7:30 Speaker 1: You want it now. I feel like they're gonna selling Sunset US or they're like, you know, show you that we still kept filming there just the first ten. We got ten more.

7:39 Speaker 2: But I need them now they have I have them.

7:44 Speaker 3: Jesse's husband standing in the rain and a leather jacket, I said, going down.

7:48 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, this is destroying my face. Listen, ships destroying the ship?

7:57 Speaker 2: Though, girl, do you know exactly exactly? Are you aware? That's the question?

8:04 Speaker 1: Listen? Well, we have so many cool things happening on the TVs right now. Well we're gonna talk about a few. They really are like keeping me up at night if it's not the girls, Like if I'm not having a good time Kik with my girls are at the Love Hotel, that's really been fun having a nice time, you know, waiting for my other shows to come back, like you know Love Island and all of its mini spinoffs on the Island. Yes, yes, I'm very interested. And are you excited for this spin off like the are you gonna watch that?

8:37 Speaker 2: I've gotten excited.

8:38 Speaker 3: Initially, I was like, Okay, y'all doing a little too much because you know, we, we America were not used the nice things. So you know the UK, Australia, they're used to amazing seasons of Love Island. USA just started cranking those out, so I think they're like, Okay, we got to capitalize, let's do this.

8:59 Speaker 2: With the mess that you know.

9:00 Speaker 3: I think they go find them some mess and I'm interested in checking in the scene and what's going on.

9:05 Speaker 2: I'm interested. Yeah, I'm gonna go there girls.

9:09 Speaker 1: You know, the PPG, they got a little situation with some of the fan thames of that season, which we knew and anticipated. I mean, it was almost felt like it didn't make sense to give it a they were those girls were so fucking electric, Like they were electric, and I mean that whole cast was. But like there was really something with that friendship that really allowed all three of them to eat. You know, they've all gotten so much success from it. People are really invested in.

9:37 Speaker 2: My Serena is a sacred chair with Beyonce like.

9:41 Speaker 1: Cutting her edges? What are you talking about?

9:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, who was doing my.

9:48 Speaker 1: I cn't even think about it, truly.

9:51 Speaker 3: No, we've seen, like we've seen this mega level of success come from Love Island, but.

9:56 Speaker 2: It's been years, Like it's been years.

9:59 Speaker 3: Since we've had people like take over the fandom, Like like this is like Molly May and Tommy Fury type shit. It's like, oh wow, like y'all, y'all want to know what's going on, and let me tell you something. Molly and Tommy announced that divorced after they had that cute kid. But now he even got back with her. I'm like, look, I'm alone for the ride. I'm tearing up, Like you know, did you watch I don't know if you started Carlos King and Juice of Dora interview, but you know Drew did. Like when you started crying, she did this number right here, She put them two fingers up and just kind of she dabbed you.

10:28 Speaker 3: That's what I was doing, Like they had me on a roller coaster, Okay, just dabbing them fake tears away.

10:32 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, this is too much. I'm here for it. I love it.

10:36 Speaker 1: I love it, I really do, because I also the fun thing about those three girls is they also left in love, so like they left him and with best friends and like I'm into that. That's literally the cornerstone of like most of the shows on that we love. Wow, your summer houses, your VPRs, your below decks. We love to see the girlies get along with each other and have like, you know, cute relationships and the drama come from with in. But like, we're invested in all of you because you all do love each other at your core.

11:05 Speaker 2: Yes, I love it.

11:06 Speaker 1: Will their relationship survive it? Probably not.

11:09 Speaker 3: But the only thing I'm not excited about, I'm excited about the PPG and their man like aspect of it. I don't necessarily need the kindle Kaylor and Olivia mess because they're trying a little They've been trying a little harder since they left the villain, and I'm like, oh, y'all gotta.

11:26 Speaker 1: You know, to get that same It's hard for girlies, you know, you know, you know, you know there's something about women of color, right, Yeah, they just make for great television. There's there's there's culture, there's background, context, all these other things that you bring to the table that like come for a very alive personality. Taylor doesn't have that,

11:54 Speaker 1: not particularly. No, they had to extending back to the other girlies, and that is fair, but you know, we do know what we're here for. And listen, there's spacing time for Cynthia Bailey's to come back, and y'all love her, you know, y'all you think she's great television, even though we know she's not great television. And it's all we but sometimes we need that balance. If it's all firecrackers like Jenney's, you know, Serena and Lea, Yeah, yeah, if it's all firecrackers, all skip fires, all runway, you know, type models all the time, we're in for long, it'll be too much, don't we know?

12:33 Speaker 1: It Over there at the Monta, Oh my god. I still can't wait to get to that. But Atlanta Housewives of Atlanta is another example of that because speaking of Cynthia, so this episode of Housees of Atlanta, it had some interesting things. It felt like it felt a little bit like of both Potomac and Beverly Hills episode where there was nothing happening because we have one thing that was going to happen, so like nothing else to happen, you know what I mean. So like the entire time, I'm like, what are we doing?

13:09 Speaker 2: Yeah?

13:09 Speaker 1: What do we DoD? Like? Did we get a lot of good updates? Sure? But yeah, like is not new. This is episode like three or four of that, just a new level of dick heatery. You know that was terrible. That he's really bad. That was a really bad guy, like nice, like pull over, what is terrible?

13:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And we've known, literally we've known since episode one of him coming on the show too.

13:39 Speaker 1: He never c This is crazy. Asking for a business with my name on it is That is diabolical. This is nasty word especially they're trying to bankrupt me, take my business. Forty of my name. You have forty of my name as if you have anything to do with Sodora. It's nothing. That's not even your name. There's nothing to do with you. Wild what are you even talking about?

14:05 Speaker 1: You're really bugging like he's bugging out, like he's I think I just wrote down on my notes at least twice. But if is really not well, like he's okay, he's really a bad guy. This is this isn't nice and I don't like true like that, but it's not. This is regardless, like this is a terrible thing to do to the mother of your kids. It doesn't make any sense.

14:31 Speaker 3: He doesn't want to let either, like he's determined to be doing interviews, to be reporting live from the basement. He he got way too what's going on for me and I need you to like calm down a little bit, like what's going on?

14:45 Speaker 1: Giving DDG like he wants to be on Twitter streaming downstairs and not and ride the hotel but doesn't like it when you establish the boundary of what I would like to not be around you to be an asshole to me And he's like, how dare you not let me? Yeah, that's to you no more. I don't like that. That's not fair, right right? What explain yourself? Like I don't know what you mean? Like Atlanta has never not proven that you know the bar for minutes on the ground, we knew that Ralf was a terrible you know individual Tampa had spent years ago.

15:17 Speaker 1: Like when you're talking about you just left, but you just leaving for some days was already crazy. There are series about where you went and what you were doing in Tampa because you passed like twelve beaches in order to get there and you just wanted to go to the beach for whatever reason. Clean your hant wh why did you lock this lady out of her home? Ldren?

15:39 Speaker 2: What I'd like to know?

15:41 Speaker 3: And did the George and the group yes say you could do that that's my question about him for that right, because you have to.

15:53 Speaker 1: Do you mean, you gotta hope you you can get a call from the jail cell you want to. I have to believe you wanted her to call you from the jail.

16:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm breaking in, I'm gonna have to.

16:06 Speaker 1: Bop you upside your head. And your code works. You can go in through the basement and let me into my own house and my children's sleep. You have me on a different level of fucked up.

16:17 Speaker 2: That's crazy.

16:18 Speaker 1: That's a new flavor of fucked up. I don't know that flavor.

16:20 Speaker 2: Wait till I'm confused.

16:22 Speaker 3: Did we ever find out in the episode how she got back in the house, because next time we saw her, she was in there to her mama having a conversation.

16:28 Speaker 1: She said that Ralph went in through the basement suddenly whenever he got home or when he got there, his colde did work. Oh okay, And then she said he had to go in through the basement and then he let me in. I said, because at her heart, I wrote it down. I said her let me into my house where my baby sleep.

16:48 Speaker 2: That's crazy.

16:50 Speaker 1: And she's so shocked. She's like, I don't understand he does well for himself eventually, why why does he want to do this? So I'm like a man about the money. What's the ruin? Exactly?

17:05 Speaker 2: Have you never met a man?

17:06 Speaker 1: What a man? You have fame, which is weird to me. Also because Juice A. Doorra has been famous like longer than she's been on Housewives, Like I mean, yeah, sure, not as notable as maybe on Housewives, but like she's not been She's not your typical housewife that you married, and now she's found fame and you're mad at her because she's eclipsed to you and your success. She was on the Gang like that was a big show. That was not an actress like she not she didn't she In fact, we're trying to be like, wow, you're still trying to had that success.

17:42 Speaker 1: That's crazy. It's been a while, it is, it's been a while, you know, but she had it. So I'm just confused as to why he's confused.

17:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, very hard.

17:54 Speaker 1: You're trying to do to this lady. It doesn't make sense to me. I think she's going to be the thing we talk about for the rest of the duration of Housewives, as long as she's ever here. Yeah, because kny what's happening. I don't. There's a lot of inconsistencies. Yeah, and then there's a lot of questions and she talks and explains things. I have more questions, truly, how does that work?

18:21 Speaker 2: It's and you know what, it's all.

18:23 Speaker 3: It's really so quinsisential housewife that I almost I start questioning them.

18:31 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, who's housewives without a liar?

18:33 Speaker 3: Like, you know, we got Drew, we had charade, like we we've known so we gott phagores coming back, like we know lies? Okay, if we don't know nothing, we know lies. So I need a whole exploration on Angela's family. I need to know about who the daughter because the daughter married a woman?

18:52 Speaker 1: Right?

18:53 Speaker 2: Yes? And do you feel like there's an age gap? Right? Age gap? That's what I'm getting.

19:04 Speaker 1: It's like, it's just I don't know why if you're all making this a bigger deal than I am, I'm like, but why aren't you making it a big deal? Do you not understand what marriage is? Or were you manipulated into the situation because it is a big deal, You're not making it a big deal. It's not the weird thing here right, or or that is the weird thing, Like us making it a big deal, bigger than you are is not the weird thing. You know that you're married and no one knew about it and I had to find out about it, and you're just being like, we're just in there having a normal conversation, like that's not a big deal.

19:34 Speaker 1: That's the that's the thing.

19:35 Speaker 2: That's a weird thing, very weird, very weird.

19:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Charles doesn't love his wife. You have confirmation of that because he was asked upon arrival, do you love Angela? The producer said, and the lady and Angela said, she wants to make sure that you don't not love me, and he was like, is that it? She's a no, I mean he's allowed to function, God bless her. She's like, I mean he's allowed to do what he wants, even if it's not love you. That's tough, but just was wanting to know, like do you love Angela? Like shout out to that producer forgetting the truth.

20:14 Speaker 1: He wouldn't answer the question and was like, Okay, I'm not doing that. I don't want to answer this. I don't even want to be here. Yeah, no, no, that's so crazy to me. It looks to me to see when that house is beautiful, she got a three million dollar home that she can't sell, that's not done. Her mama is living off of her. She regrets buying her mam at the house, but her mama and her tight. There's a lot of unresolved things happening in that one and it's but yet she has like a blanket. You can't mess with my daughter.

20:51 Speaker 1: But like we're not able to have hard conversations and no one's speaking truth or taking accountability. It seems it's very interesting. We all just kind of like we're okay with some lies but not all lies.

21:02 Speaker 4: Like there's a liararchy. It's a archy, that's what it is. Yeah, all accepted. I guess, yes, very true. I feel like there's a liararchy on the show and within the household too, Like we just kind of the fact is. I feel like we as fans don't question enough about the family. And you say, okay, there's not an additional child. You said, that's the first husband, But what's going on with the daughter? Why did your mama go upside his head?

21:32 Speaker 2: Who did this? What happened with that? And I feel like we.

21:35 Speaker 3: Don't question a lot of that because out of the blue, Justin were about to question it, Drew would come up and say some wow ship like ye'ah want to keep these court documents sealed because I'm looking out for Ralph.

21:46 Speaker 2: What you said, you don't want to what.

21:52 Speaker 1: I want to know? Why? What's the hold on? Angel?

21:57 Speaker 2: Let me let me come over here, hold on.

21:59 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on girl. We want to put simmer.

22:02 Speaker 2: We're gonna yeah.

22:04 Speaker 1: We're gonna let them main. We will let the rude summer. That's we're gonna be back to this. What the fun? Let's talk about it? Because Rafa saying let it all hang out? Why is he saying that?

22:18 Speaker 2: Does he not know what his own b.

22:20 Speaker 1: S is in there? Or is it not? Does it not matter to him? Because what's in there about you is just as working for him to let it all hang out. You think She's like, there's no way he would want this out about him, And I'm like, oh, baby, you don't know what Petty made.

22:37 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, truly true.

22:40 Speaker 1: He'll accept it if it means.

22:42 Speaker 2: You go down exactly.

22:45 Speaker 3: He knows you're the biggest star here. They gonna forget, They're not gonna care about what he did. Okay, they gonna care about what we already.

22:51 Speaker 1: Thinks what happened. Okay. I also want to I the tie thing. I didn't know about that. I'm not gonna lie. I caught out cut out from atl for a little bit. So when I saw a Miss Mimi Foss's ex person

23:14 Speaker 1: on that damn show, I.

23:15 Speaker 2: Said, now, they said too, I guess I didn't know that nugget, Like I know, yes.

23:19 Speaker 1: Okay, So I was gonna say ex wife because I knew they were engaged. I didn't know if they took it further than that, but I knew that they were engaged and like raising the daughter together, like doing the thing lesbian style. You know, they were in there like swimwear. I'm shocked, you know, when they broke up, it shocked me. It actually hurt my heart. The lesbians pride we did. We all had a little tear, you know, you know, because we love when we see a pretty a badass woman leave a toxic man or two for a nice you know, one or two a DVD and and some of the things.

23:56 Speaker 2: You know, good girl, Oh boy, I'm.

24:01 Speaker 1: Gonna tell you something. I compared. I told that from Brahe and Wlah Black I spid this season of Secret Lives and Mona Wives beat like this was like a Mona season, Like I feel like Mona was in the mad. This felt like a Housewives of Atlanta season. The Houses of Atlanta I love and Hip Hop Atlanta early seasons, Like yes, Jocelyn gave Stevie lettuce or cabbage or whatever, and then Meani gave him cabbage. Then the other week and then they both find out the r way scrappy still scrappy?

24:37 Speaker 2: Old did it felt like when.

24:42 Speaker 3: When house shopping with meet Me and then met Johnson at the studio, It was like, oh you you all rout you are you were from bookheads, brankheads, you you all over the town?

24:52 Speaker 1: Okay, wow those were every days. I said, No, this is like listen, I don't know.

24:57 Speaker 2: Oh yes, here that we need to get.

25:00 Speaker 1: We need to we need to pick some of these producers up. These are good people.

25:03 Speaker 2: These are you know what it might be.

25:06 Speaker 3: It feels like there's just a lot of untapped potential after in Salt Lake City because what is going on?

25:13 Speaker 1: Water for days? Yeah, we need to send about three more andes and three more cameras. We need to do a there's a lot of untapped tailing. I need, like I want friends and friends. At this point, there is no there is no not good enough for the show, whether your husband will film or not. And that is what I will say. Because the portion and shmia of it all over in Atlanta, we've seen a lot on Households. We see a lot of gatekeeping of casting, you know, unlike what we are seeing on Secret Lives of Normal Wives and stuff like that, where it's a little bit different and you know, there are live votes sometimes to keep girls out of groups.

25:58 Speaker 1: Here it's like, you know, we do and housels. We do a referral based program. We don't. Yes, yes, it has been clear that she has been on this referral base for some time. It is been established truthfully in a way that has been agreed upon by both parties. Why she has not been on before this season? You know, we know a husband won't film, they won't let you. But you know, usually Bravo was like, if you have the bank account, the back of up, we could give a ship about the husband. Okay, friends, Massy, do you have a yes?

26:41 Speaker 1: Yes, like girls like you do who identify with at least two of the songs or two of the cars in a rap song by the Migos have at least two of them.

26:53 Speaker 3: She said, look, they said, what part of town do you live in? She said, what do you want my address? Oh, Darling, it's a name. This is Sterling Hall.

27:04 Speaker 1: And they just said perfect. And I think that And because she left, and this is gonna this is gonna hard. This is gonna be hard because being a Porsche fan is learning to admit when she's wrong and giggling through it. But like, I truly am nervous for the sake of their friendship because I really understood Shemiah and I really saw a side or a situation of Porsche, Like we saw a glimpse into their friendship this episode when they were one on one more that we have not seen before. And it concerned me a little bit because you can tell this is something that they are used to dealing with.

27:49 Speaker 1: Like Sma came in hot because she's used to probably repressing a lot of this, right, She's used to repressing a lot of this, And I think she came in hot because she felt she needed to in order to be heard. Porscha was so shook by her coming in so high, especially if you're doing this for the cameras, aren't you you want them to break us up? Oh my god, I'm going to be, you know, out of front. But what immediately happened is at a wall went up with Porsche and then Shemiah had to basically put on kid gloves, which I can tell she's used to doing.

28:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, Porscha came back to that table. Sami had changed her entire tune, and she was exactly because she's like, okay, She's like, I do often treat you like you're fragile. I'm like, oh, but that Shemi is exhausted if that's been happening for some years, Smia is exhausted, and she's like, we all have things going on in our lives. I understand that, Like you think that all my life is like perfect because I got this man and loved me, a lot of money, great clothes, beautiful hair, good family, cute kids, a nice house.

28:54 Speaker 1: So what's still you want to know? For shmiir right, But it doesn't mean that I don't have ship going on, and we all have shit going on. And because you have ship going on, I can't never tell you how I feel in our relationship because you always got something going on. Yeah, and that's not fair, because it's also not fair for you to treat somebody any other kind of way because your husband got deported. You show that moment's husband. Maybe if you had done a little bit more research and maybe asked to talk to Falling a little bit and said of just plot on her man and dapping up her husband, but on her back, she would have probably alluded to some of the problems that he is or has, and you would have learned a point he may not be worth it.

29:35 Speaker 1: True all the glitters isn't gold.

29:38 Speaker 3: I think that both of them, I think now, I think they knew that Porsche was probably gonna get a certain edit. Maybe not in the beginning, but around the time that Kenya left, because they were like, oh shit, we gotta we gotta pivot what we're.

29:52 Speaker 1: Going to now.

29:54 Speaker 3: And I think Itsmia too, because Porsche listen, us, Porscha fans listen, We not to this. We truated this, okay, we knew, we knew, we knew, hell this is gonna go okay. But also Shediah, Shemiah, you you playing your hand a little hard because she'd be crying and after show and doing all this stuff, and now that.

30:11 Speaker 2: People be like, Okay, hold on, Shamia, because you're.

30:13 Speaker 1: Doing a lot.

30:13 Speaker 3: Now now I'm starting to think this and that. So Shemiah, they gifted you the perfect thing. You got to you really got to bring it home because otherwise people can start turning. They already turned on you a little bit because they feel like you don't hold Porsche accountable enough, and then that's becoming the whole thing too.

30:28 Speaker 1: So I listen, Yeah, because here's the thing, because if you are going to what I will say is you have apparently been very vocal to these other ladies. You're saying that it's all stuff that we that you talked to Porch and stuff about. But it seems like you don't feel heard when you're saying this. But it also doesn't feel like you held her accountable enough. But then so then it leaves a lot more room for you to then go later and talk to the other ladies about the same stuff and continue and be like nothing's changing.

31:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing changes if things still the same though, So yeah, Porsia, if she's not what she does, not take accountability, but you're not holding her accountable. You need to be just as willing to be like, hey, do you care about our friendship? That part because I understand that it's it's you're fragile understanding that it hurts your feelings, or it's overwhelming and you're you're just human, because you know, Portia deflected the entire time. She really did, I'm just human. I'm overwhelmed.

31:26 Speaker 1: I didn't expect this a girl, Yes you did. You are not a new housewife at the very least. You just expected it not to come from Shemia because she would laughed off you this moment. It's not worth it, it's not We do want to know her real life, and if her husband won't film, you are part of her real life. Yes, remember you at home either my husband's the poorted. You need to also sit down and have this conversation because I want to know why she's like, well, you're doing this for the show. No, you're not doing this for the show.

31:55 Speaker 2: Can I say?

31:55 Speaker 3: I often think about what it just like randomly in moments, not just Karen Hugot, but I often think about what Simon go Body is doing right now too.

32:04 Speaker 2: Because if he's still in that nice detention center, I'm like Wow, what's going on in there?

32:08 Speaker 1: Change? Yeah? Like what is he doing? Over?

32:11 Speaker 2: Often have? What do you think he's doing right now?

32:13 Speaker 1: I wonder? I mean it's eighteen, Sam's probably going to bed. Yeah, Simon probably has been a similar sleep schedule.

32:23 Speaker 2: I'm sure. Yes. Do you think he's a bed Oh?

32:28 Speaker 1: No, I think they have like you know, the hot things, you know, And I think he's on the bottom. He's on the bottom bunk. He gives bottom Okay, but I don't know that's a good or a bad thing because that seems like the least secure place today, right, But do you want to climb up and down? No? But I also feel like being on the bottom, someone can run up on me a lot easier, and I don't like that. Yeah. Not a fan to get to the top bunk, you know what I'm saying. They don't want to get me up there. You're going to shake some beds in order to get up there.

33:01 Speaker 1: So is doing you know? I know he just loans to be on Instagram. Oh, watching this season. If he's watching this season and you know they letting him, they gotta probably shots, probably showing some of your means and look look, look, look security.

33:17 Speaker 2: I know I secured somebody in there is watching they like she's.

33:20 Speaker 1: Working at them, Yeah, looking at the bolaroom or the Bolero or whatever. But I was I was disappointed in Porsche's you know, lack of accountability because I'm like, you, I do know why she's doing this, like you understand the nuances where we may not all understand the nuances. You do. This is part of her life. You are part of her life. Is she coming in hot? Short? And I think this question Mada did change her tone and it got a little bit further, but like she's like, what do I need to do? And I'm like that's when I would have brought out the and been like, can you just explain to I just want to know that you heard me?

34:04 Speaker 1: What did I say here today?

34:07 Speaker 3: Because it all comes back to their wedding, That's really what it is. It all comes back to their wedding. For me, it feels like like it was one thing, has she not gone? And then the world didn't just really know about it. She went to the one here, she was the one Shemia said. It wasn't a wedding, it was something.

34:25 Speaker 2: It was him off.

34:27 Speaker 1: I don't know what it was.

34:27 Speaker 3: I don't even want to try to get but she said it was something ceremony, Yeah, something cultural here, but yeah I got after friends have a.

34:34 Speaker 1: Few ethnic friends, my friends that are Pakistani or different versions of Islam, different versions of African. The weddings are multi day events and sometimes all important invited to certain things people who are but what you're invited to matters, like it's not for everybody, but all the events are not for everybody, so it is an honor to be invited. So if she invited you, it's because she really did want you there and it was important to her that you be there. So for you not to be there, and whether it was the ceremony or not, you knew, I don't know you knew because then you went ahead and Marita an African man yourself and had a series of events and celebrations and ceremonies as well.

35:16 Speaker 3: So you do be Like the bigger story that emerged from this episode, which I want to know, is the only thing that honestly matters to me right now, what the hell happened between Shami and Mama and Porsha Mama because being the daughters of the best friend, daughters of best friends, that's wild like that, that's the whole you gotta beef every time your mama's beef at that point, Like, what's what happened there? And I know YouTube, bring miss Diana on. I want to know what's going on. I want to hear somebody.

35:45 Speaker 3: I don't care who side of the story. I want to hear somebody side of the story because that's gonna set.

35:51 Speaker 1: No. Seriously, I'm really I'm confused, you know, because this confused me when I saw this episode, because we know that Porscha saw this episode last week. Yes, and let us know that by throwing out a nice little all black you know, just like her husband, all black background and all that, all that length, that lettering of a little bit part threat, part warning, part uh fuck around and find out, you know, towards Shemiah. It was a post and delete, but took the screenshot. So she does love a posting, belaite.

36:40 Speaker 1: We do know about some people like that, Porsche Taylor fand people have a lot Yes, girlies.

36:51 Speaker 3: Say before before she deleted, she did pin my comment because my missy ass got down there. I said, So it's about tomorrow's episode, like what we like? Because I I just want to clear it for the people, like what we what are we mad about?

37:03 Speaker 1: It?

37:03 Speaker 3: We're mad about like right now, we're mad about tomorrow's episode, like some pa YouTube, like what are we mad about? And she said, yes, tomorrow's episode. I said, well, thank you, and then she deleted it. Okay, but damn hurt my feelings.

37:15 Speaker 1: Yeah that was terrible. But like, and did she deleted because she felt bad?

37:20 Speaker 2: Novo was like, it's not out yet.

37:24 Speaker 1: You can't do that.

37:25 Speaker 2: I don't even think that after show, can I be messy?

37:29 Speaker 1: I yes.

37:30 Speaker 3: She got that call from Shamilah and they were both like, ah, we did a girl. They go watch, they go watch, and then she deleted. She's like, mission done, Mission done. That's what I think this season is going in with Portion and Shamillah hugging it out at the reunion, Happy's clams that they backed best friends, and then they go tear rose these girls next season.

37:47 Speaker 2: That's what I think it's gonna happen.

37:49 Speaker 1: I see it. Yeah, I see it too. It's just very you know, I would like to This reunion is going to be one for the books already. I can tell you that it's any give early, you know, Porsche Phaedra Versus port v Phaedra mm hmm, Porsche VI Kenya Portia v Kenya again another time. So those early days, you know, I loved hearing the shout out about Nini. She's like, yeop, these schoolships are tough. Cynthia's like, you know, Nini and I you know it was tough, and I'm like, yeah, bring.

38:23 Speaker 2: That back right, Let's see that tough about going on.

38:27 Speaker 1: Let's see yeah, let's see what's going on over there. Because y'all have filmed some things together. What's it like working with Meani again?

38:33 Speaker 2: I would love to know that.

38:34 Speaker 1: Actually, I would love have said somebody would ask Cynthia that if you can like put all the things, it's like you need like a mixer to do all that. Because they filmed a show together, The Upshaws brought to you by Wanda Sykes starring Another House of Atlanta, because she was on the show at the same time. What's yeah, And so for Cynthia and he need to be on the Upshalls with one decide.

39:04 Speaker 2: And it's kind of wild, but it's wild.

39:08 Speaker 1: I couldn't even think about Kim Fields because my whole gag was Cynthia and Neini working together, new noses, new extensions and lives. What's going on?

39:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's And we knew Nini was gonna, you know, have a good time with Cynthia in but then when somebody asked an interview a couple of weeks later, we knew Nini was gonna sit. Well, don't get a twisted We're not friends now, No, we're not. We're not friends, Okay, I said, okay, well.

39:32 Speaker 1: Yes, this is also the lady who used to consistently like be out and about filmed and like photographed with Kim Zosiak. But like they they just can't. I will collect the jet.

39:43 Speaker 2: Okay.

39:43 Speaker 1: One thing about her. One thing about miss Anthea, she will have a dollar if she don't care who else gotta get the dollar, She's gonna get that dollar. You're in Caroline Manzel and Teresa gdche of her. You know when that's commercial, because even super Bowl was decking out coins. Both he and Carolina said for how much?

40:03 Speaker 5: Right?

40:04 Speaker 1: Yeah? What is it? An hour? Yeah? We could do it.

40:06 Speaker 2: We got I don't mind.

40:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, we could do that. And I appreciate that. Don't be stupid, don't don't never be done.

40:13 Speaker 3: Oh me too, now, Caroline, I was surprised about Oh Teresa's goes Teresa's go agree to a coin?

40:19 Speaker 1: Now?

40:24 Speaker 2: That man? Yeah, you better, you better hope the super Bowl.

40:28 Speaker 1: Ask again okay, because it sounds like they're replacing it all over the Road Island, which is a place that many people I know actually love going to partying and like what people I know from Jersey, So I'm interested in that. We might never hear from the DJs, and then again, so might not know. So Teresa, you want to take whatever call you good because coins now, yeah, you needs to do what you need to do. So

41:02 Speaker 1: and smiyah. I really, in real time, we really don't know where they stand over the last few weeks before this episode came out and we saw them have this conversation they've been on Rocky Grand in real time. Then Porsche put out a post happy Birthday in her Shami is a tourist, so good luck. Because we are patient, we are we are forgiving almost to a fault. We can give chance after chance after chance because we do things that make sense and we are compassionate people. But please believe, when we are done, this is like unspeakable.

41:38 Speaker 1: It's like it's not even that. There's no vindictive, there's no petty, there's no means. You simply just no longer, like it just doesn't matter anymore. Like I have nothing. You don't even not exist, you can't exist. I don't know, I don't care. It has nothing. It's above me, off off the shelf completely. When you're out of I'm like, I'm done, yep, done, similar in that way, Okay, yes, we just kind of like, well, we don't like that.

42:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like that I left my house, but right.

42:13 Speaker 1: We did our we get our best tribe.

42:16 Speaker 2: Sorry to it.

42:19 Speaker 1: I don't know number half. That's okay, y'all. It's time let's talk about them secret lives of the Mormon them weves.

42:32 Speaker 1: I love the Mormons. I thank you, an untapped group. We shouldn't be just looking for out of the expired no longer Mormons. We should be looking for active Mormons. Yeah, for girls in there who wear their garments proudly because they are the bitches like I.

42:53 Speaker 3: Want Mormon one point two point oh, like Lisa Barlow ex communicated everything.

42:59 Speaker 1: I want them all. I want everybody. I want to know. I want to dig in because if y'all want to put me through slave catcher culture in so in South Carolina with the Southern charms and them, Yeah, and what's happening into that? Like, oh, but it's so impressive. And then I mean, if I have to sit through Southern charms one through whatever and haveing parties on top of graveyards of slaves, I'm gonna have. I'm gonna watch these Mormons off fight each other. I just stand that, and I'm gonna have a nice time because what I didn't expect a sour dough starter fight is not on my Bengo car.

43:40 Speaker 1: But let me tell you something. When that girl Macy said, well, you know that's my sour starter that she's making for the party, I said, no way, Yeah, she can't even be's like cause she's like not even an og. I'm like the O G tidwife, like if if you don't know how to make sour though. She didn't know how to make sour though. I said no.

44:05 Speaker 2: Wow. And then when they about it, we need said oh no, no, no, it's the exactly.

44:12 Speaker 1: Around who it is. I have questions, right, I guess I should make something else because it'll taste pretty similar. She uses my recipe too. Oh no, I mean like the amount of times I left this season. Mm hmmm, the amount of times I cried this season from laughing.

44:37 Speaker 2: Yes, wow, it's wild.

44:41 Speaker 1: Who were your favorite stand out or breakout person? So you finished the season? Correct? Yes?

44:47 Speaker 2: Absolutely? That weekend yesterday, Yeah, it was.

44:50 Speaker 1: It was. Yeah, it's hard not to watch everything else. And I was like, I just want to know what.

44:54 Speaker 2: Them girls I had planned.

44:56 Speaker 1: I had to.

44:56 Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, I'm not gonna make it.

44:58 Speaker 1: I can't.

44:59 Speaker 2: I got things to do.

45:00 Speaker 1: I got watching this them.

45:08 Speaker 2: On medium too. It's like, oh, this is a good time. This is a good time.

45:11 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, when I hear them, when I hear that chorus in the beginning.

45:16 Speaker 3: Yes, I would have never thought that we were literally gonna make Mormons look like the cover of a Maxim magazine. That's interesting to me.

45:26 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm am I wrong, y'all can let me know? Please be nice about it. Though, wearing their garments aget I to believe that they are like being like they're like emulating in their garments, which is something that Mormons take very seriously. They do wear about last season, you know, jin like forgot the garments, and Zach was like, you need to you know what I mean, Like it's part of their purity and honoring their commitments, you know, to the things that God and the husbands and all the stuff.

45:58 Speaker 1: But like for them to be so scared, but like not like they were so totally covered, but they were like in a in a I was like, waits.

46:11 Speaker 2: Very much.

46:13 Speaker 1: And I think that's really I do like that when I understand the bros like Macy and Michaela who are like, we are trying to not just be ugly dowdy, we also want to be high and fierce and business women and all that. And you're gonna, yeah a hard time understanding where the conservatives starts to y'all.

46:35 Speaker 3: Are really yeah, you know, I don't think they know either, honestly. They just they use a conservative for the girls they hate. They're like, you know what, that ain't right right there. I don't know why, but it's not right and they just use it and I like it, and then they do it later and I love that.

46:49 Speaker 1: Your last show, I said, oh no, they're gonna have a heart. This is this is way worse than yeah,

46:58 Speaker 1: New Orleans because the thing they're gonna have neans girl. Oh yes, black woman, a nice, beautiful chocolate lady to shake.

47:08 Speaker 2: That she pulled out of another region.

47:11 Speaker 1: And put it directly in Layla's mouth.

47:14 Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, that's how I know you.

47:18 Speaker 1: Didn't do enough intllege. But she took it all too quickly, she said, I said no, wait a minute, wow, And all I could think was and she dating somebody who's also like high up in the church or something.

47:32 Speaker 2: Layla, Yeah, he always family is all about it.

47:38 Speaker 1: And then she would cross temple or whatever, go through temple for him. And the girls didn't like that. They did not know that you will not Who are your standouts this season? Who are your fan favorite? Who are your favorites? Oh?

47:53 Speaker 2: My god, obviously Taylor, I mean Taylor season one answer. Taylor is just a star.

47:57 Speaker 1: Okay, so that girl doesn't quit. Know, she does give her all the reality TV awards. She deserves some People's choice awards. Okay, guess my stepdad, Ye, I'm gonna have to wed.

48:09 Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, that was.

48:15 Speaker 3: The wild That's when I decided to cancel plans because I was like, oh, we're doing this, Oh okay, wow.

48:23 Speaker 2: Oh my goods. Yeah, why.

48:27 Speaker 1: That was the wildest scene.

48:30 Speaker 3: Scene, It would have been predictable and like expected, had it like just been the father coming at her.

48:36 Speaker 2: It was the dad, the mama, and the brother and the baby daddy.

48:40 Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, and has some sense to be, like, actually, y'all just don't belong together because you're both trash. It was just like all of y'all riding for this man. I don't understand it. Murder.

48:57 Speaker 3: We learned anything from the Real Housewives Assaul Lakes City, that's pretty on brand with how men are viewed in the Mormon culture.

49:03 Speaker 2: So I mean, yeah, they.

49:04 Speaker 1: Can do whatever.

49:06 Speaker 2: He is always right, Yes.

49:09 Speaker 1: Like I was so hurt for her that we found out, you know that Dakota was basically getting himself all round up.

49:16 Speaker 5: Falling in love with that other girl, Jenna or whomever, all day all the time, and then coming home and like getting this ross off with Taylor and seeing her as the center and courting this girl and keeping her virtue and value in.

49:29 Speaker 1: Place, which to Mormons is like a really big deal. This is like really catistry unbalanced for them. And she's the mother of your kid. You're telling her you want to marry her, but you're defouling her every day. I felt terrible for Taylor and her family. Was just like, now, what did to say about you that you let your legs be open again for this?

49:45 Speaker 2: Wath Wow?

49:46 Speaker 1: And she was Wow, Yes, right, he's an asshole. Yep, honey, y'all together. You're pregnant, y'all in a relationship. You're working out, y'all are not. He's dating another girl. That's a problem. That's something over her house, that's a problem. Actively he sees you as the body, like the sex dollar just have Like that's crazy. No, he needs to go.

50:16 Speaker 3: That's wild, that's wild. Like that, I understand now why we see so many scenes of like Taylor just in therapy and I'm like, you know what, stay there because with a family like that, why would you leave like you need you're doing the work, like you need to be there, because I couldn't imagine having to actively fight my own father and mother and brother just on a whim about a man cheating on.

50:40 Speaker 1: Me, on me your child. Wow. I'm just letting you know that. He like, there's no way y'all can work it out. That's where the god Kendrick. If they asked her one more time and you don't think you can work it. There's nothing that you just called me okay, wow, just no, I'm not even gonna do it with you. No, No, I'm proud of her, the fact that he even gave her an ultimatum. You know I feel about ultimatums. I'm always like, whoever, if you ever give someone an ultimatum, No, the choice won't be you exactly.

51:10 Speaker 1: It never is and never will because even if they feel like it, if they chose you, they fell back into a corner and it doesn't last. It's a temporary yes, band aid, it's not real. I mean, got to stop doing that. What the fuck was he thinking giving this lady an ultimatum when you have cheated on me? Gas let me hurt my heart, told everybody that I'm a piece of shit. My whole family against me, But you want me to just be like, so is it me or not? What?

51:36 Speaker 3: Netflix literally has a whole show about it, and like y'all still haven't learned, Like what do you mean? Like these people get ultimatums and they go and have the best when I say, the best time of their life for them two three weeks, oh baby, and they come back to you.

51:49 Speaker 2: They'd be like you know what you gonna.

51:51 Speaker 1: June, Queer Ultimatum is coming back. Yeah, the Ultimatum Queer Edition is and now from the first season of the first Queer installment of the show, was the casting producer and it is okay, it looks so good. They released the cast and I'm very sorry about it. And that's exactly the facts. You tell no lies whenever you get mad and ultimate and they go out and they do the most and they'd be like, okay, So yeah, that was what I needed to know that I don't like what you're talking about. Don't tell me what to do and put me in a corner.

52:25 Speaker 1: I don't like that. And Taylor has never been a kind of like that, Like she thinks that Dakota is her karma and the reason she has stayed with him is because she knows that she's supposed to be punished for how badly she treated her ex husband and so him cheating on her was like a man, maybe I don't deserve this. Demmy's husband is the one to let her know that. Now, let me tell you something. Yeah, yeah, that damn Demmy home. You know, really start off strong and have a big ball.

52:57 Speaker 3: Boy or boy like Heather go hitting yourself against Taylor a good idea.

53:06 Speaker 2: Don't tell y'all, don't do it, silly silly billy.

53:11 Speaker 1: Oh it's them or it's her and me. And they were like, what, we don't mean way about her though, like we don't, we don't.

53:19 Speaker 3: And it's one thing, you know what, It's one thing if you did all that shaded ship to Taylor, like okay, fine, y'all hate Taylor like whatever, Taylor was clearly the star.

53:28 Speaker 2: Okay, doing it to your best friend? Who I did ship to you?

53:32 Speaker 1: Like that's why we now we have a track record. Like one thing, if you were just trying to get rid of Taylor, like okay, you don't like her, maybe you could convince some girls. But now we're seeing that you don't give a ship. You just want to be able to the situation if anybody can get it. And that's kind of crazy because why did so you don't like Taylor, but you were giving Taylor everbody from way to get her hair done, and you were saying, it's.

53:55 Speaker 2: Not exactly shady.

53:58 Speaker 1: So you but you're not best friends would tell us now you want to get rid of her, it's just given Whitney energy to me. And I didn't like that it gave bad weather energy. It did. I like to tether this season on you know, Salt Lake City Housewives, buts in one she was a fan favorite.

54:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, Eason two, it looked.

54:15 Speaker 1: A hot mess.

54:16 Speaker 3: I love that you said Heather game, because that's way more appropriate. When I saw I immediately said, boy, I've never seen this Liam McSweeney effect so hard, like this was okay, also.

54:28 Speaker 1: Fair, but yeah, no, I got Heather vibes of like you can go from fan favorite to complete like like douchebag, like Overnight and you want to be Queen Bee. And Heather went after Lisa Barlow like so quick because she was the other fan favorite and she wasn't enough that she was a fan favorite by Rihanna. It had to be that she had to be like the queen of the group too, and it got to her head like Overnight and that was like yeah, Like.

54:52 Speaker 2: Then once Jim Shawn left, oh boy, it was oh boy.

54:55 Speaker 1: And it's all you know. So Demi is like, okay, so we should I stand for something better? I look better. This is great, like I am, and She's like, yeah, but it's not your group. And so if you if you We're gonna go with the girl who has supported all of us, whether she likes us or not, and it's still about us all getting money versus the girl who literally we now have seen multiple times. It's like, if I don't like you, I don't think I'm gonna come between you and your back.

55:20 Speaker 2: You're right.

55:24 Speaker 3: Can I just say every time I see an old picture of Demi, I literally keep going because I'm like, that's not her, and I just literally I just keep on.

55:32 Speaker 1: Scrolling on Atlanta. Their faces look so manufactured, like I don't know what before, but.

55:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you never look like this.

55:45 Speaker 1: This isn't whatever. You look like this isn't it truly.

55:48 Speaker 3: I mean like I'm talking about different facial structure, everything, it's knows jobs like, it's literally hold everything looks different.

55:57 Speaker 2: Clearly.

55:58 Speaker 3: I mean clearly they got some pass surgeons out there. Because frank Is mama is a whole new person too.

56:04 Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, whole new person took out a mortgage or something like she did the most I'm like, okay, that your whole daughter doing ship down. You will watch when you talk to me, Okay to me that I am unworthy.

56:21 Speaker 2: Taylor have to blow to get John Kay did.

56:24 Speaker 1: Chris Jery nothing. If you lean into the sludy, you will become.

56:30 Speaker 2: Okay.

56:31 Speaker 1: Because that's the whole reason, that's the whole gag of why even like girls like Miranda and them are wanting to come back is that it's they're so isolated in their little, you know, Salt Lake City world that they didn't know that the world wouldn't give a ship that they were swingers who just made out with each other's.

56:47 Speaker 2: Husband, your community. We don't care.

56:49 Speaker 1: We love. That's consensual. That's not even right. Because you and Chase falling in love and now he's calling you everything but God in front of your face on your show. That's crazy to wife in the corner, that's crazy to me. With this in the other corner, that's who met.

57:09 Speaker 2: I will tell y'all, Wow.

57:11 Speaker 1: This man. Taylor and Miranda used to be best friends. They started doing their quote unquote sauce swing. He swapped their partners and then you know, get a lot of intimate things together. So this man who was very he was very attractive, that's.

57:30 Speaker 2: The same same.

57:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're having they're all having fun.

57:38 Speaker 2: Wait, but let me look up and see who Taylor's let me see y'all know who he is.

57:45 Speaker 1: You're right, Let me see Chandler Frank.

57:47 Speaker 2: And first thing that pop up, let me say, we all care.

57:52 Speaker 1: This is all that we hear about right now?

57:54 Speaker 2: Okay, he's got oh yeah, he's a hat fist. He needs the hat on for sure.

57:58 Speaker 1: But with the hat on, yeah, okay, more mean city do. I've seen that a lot this season, a lot of half hat fish, you know. But something he they they were doing their things, chasing Taylor. I think Chase caught some feelings. Taylor says, they weren't reciprocated. I think she was just having a good time.

58:17 Speaker 6: And he has a little ego and got bruised, or he's a big ego and it got bruised, little dick syndrome, and he was upset, and then he decided to blow up his spot, her spot, everybody's spot. And that's how we got, you know, those cictures and things linked in, and Kyla had to go on the defense and tell her story and it's made her money and a lot of things, which is why her talking on the internet became a point of.

58:40 Speaker 1: Contention this season. Isn't it enough to kick her out of the group. No, exactly, just it's a it's a it's a tailor trade. That's just what it is, apparently, and it's gotten all very far so far do that, No, not at all.

58:57 Speaker 3: Might fact thing that like did her little you know, like, oh I'm pissed off, I'm going to the internet.

59:03 Speaker 2: I'm doing this. They got some mad and didn't want her around anymore.

59:07 Speaker 3: But demmy can literally actively trying to get a couple of y'all fired and y'all okay with us still be in here.

59:14 Speaker 2: That's wild. That's wild. That's wow.

59:19 Speaker 1: And Jesse is sitting on top of this million dollar hair empire. He's the one. She just trying to take money out of my pocket from.

59:27 Speaker 2: Excuse me because you hate me, that's what exactly, Because.

59:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm hair for Taylor to come and do hair in my slide right, But listen, but I shouldn't be on the show because I got all this hair money and I'm so good.

59:45 Speaker 3: It could be a whole nother thing if you had just said, like I don't want her on the show. But you said I don't want her on the show, and she can't do a blowout and she can't to stall the weed and she can't put a wig off.

59:57 Speaker 2: It's well, damn matter from the show. I ain't gonna had no damn customers like that. Are you kidding?

1:00:05 Speaker 1: She said, what does she say? I said that I don't know how she does look color, but you's an extension. I'm okay, okay, because Taylor is not a liar. That girls truthful to a fault. It's a little that's the drawing part.

1:00:24 Speaker 2: If she won't you up.

1:00:26 Speaker 1: About the truth, She's call everybody out. I'm gonna say what you said, what she said said, and she calls everybody out. She would tell Layla to her face. God bless her. She's just so young.

1:00:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she said, well, I hope.

1:00:39 Speaker 1: You keep that same Imagy tonight, and Layla didn't, but she did come. She needed to know. I'm not even gonna touch on Jim because we'd be here too long. And I just feel bad for that lady. She's trapped. That's all I got to say about it.

1:00:54 Speaker 2: She's trapped.

1:00:55 Speaker 1: And I think that any commentary on her feels a little like insensitive because.

1:00:59 Speaker 2: I punched down.

1:01:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels that she is very trapped and is she's showing narcissistic tendencies and signs of narcissism. Yes, she's been married to this man for how long? And he has been lying to her, gaslighting her, and treating her this way for how long? I will say, if you have any questions on how I feel about it, I believe strongly that Jin was lied to and told this lie for many years about ben at Blast. I do in joking or not. I believe she believed it because it was told to her for him, her husband, to go around to her own friends and say, I don't know where she's gotten at she's been lying, and I told her to stop saying that we don't know where she made this up.

1:01:38 Speaker 1: That is diabolical and that tells me everything I need to know about every conversation he's ever had with another woman. And you're being manipulated too. He wanted her to choose him over mom talk and at work, they didn't foresee her pregnancy, and now this baby is like at risk, and she just feels like she will go to hell if anything happens to the baby. So she's just doing her best, and I feel really bad for this lady.

1:02:01 Speaker 2: That's it, that's all.

1:02:02 Speaker 1: He got what he wanted and she's miserable and truly so.

1:02:07 Speaker 2: In the fact that we, like, I get it, Zach came back. It's easy to decipher.

1:02:11 Speaker 3: I mean, it's easy to kind of decode because he came back an entirely new personality. Oh now he's sitting in the now, he's sitting in a confessional chair. Now he's having scenes, he's meeting up with people. So I get why it can be confusing. But let's not forget who he was season one. Let's not forget that, like we we can't just nothing's changed, right, He's not just like our voice of reason and our reliable narrator.

1:02:35 Speaker 2: Now no, not yet, not yet. Maybe another season or two, but certainly not right now.

1:02:41 Speaker 1: And he focuses on semantics and I'm very sensitive to narcissists that way narcisst will do. It's like you know so much and had always brought it back to like how Bethany and Carol used to fight. When Carol was like, oh no, I'm not doing this with you. She was got off the right because you're starting to fight with semantics and it's the word. It's like, I did not gamble the money my parents gave me for tuition right

1:03:07 Speaker 1: true or false. Your parents gave you money for tuition, true true or false. You gambled away money period that is in your household, right true.

1:03:17 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was the same dollar, but it was all.

1:03:22 Speaker 1: You didn't have to take the check itself to the goddamn mohegan Son and be like this one, give me the chips for it to be the money because it was for one thing and that's not what it went to. And instead you found if you did not have money for tuition, that your parents had to help you with tuition, you did not have money for gambling.

1:03:41 Speaker 3: That's if y'all ain't learned nothing from Kim Zosiak, you better learn that that damn gambling bug is a beast and you better get it off your back now. That would have been a good time to go pray to Joseph Smith. I'm just saying, like, talk to them, because get that off your.

1:03:57 Speaker 1: Back Listen, so many fun things happened this season, and you know, so many that we get focused on, and I'll do a deep dive, like I told you, y'all fourth probably to get into the nitty gritty of the season of the episodes because they were that damn good. And if you have not watched it, let let this convince you check. Go do that, go watch it now. But like Whitney choosing to be like in calling for her own live votes to be in the group more than once in Iconic and that lady deserves an award as well.

1:04:31 Speaker 1: I'm sorry Whitney put in her She put in that one good season back in the group. Only Whitney deserves it. She and she did.

1:04:41 Speaker 3: She did it dressed terribly too, And I can always appreciate that, Like you really like got in that mirror and you said, yep, this is it, and I was like wow, wow, Okay.

1:04:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I just wish her and her husband, who was suffering from SSA the best. I really do. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He's a sweet man. He's just not an honest man to himself and those around him.

1:05:09 Speaker 2: But guess what, I know the truth? Okay, so I believe it or not?

1:05:14 Speaker 1: So do they?

1:05:17 Speaker 2: Who are we?

1:05:20 Speaker 1: You know has not had a secret or known somebody? So yeah, And you know, really the biggest thing there is to talk about because ken Mom talks survived this, we don't know. Because Layla went to go do some background work honey, Demmy has really pissed her and everybody off off so much being a bad friend, which I understand this idea. I'm not gonna lie. I kind of understood the idea of like, let me go get some on this girl because she is a terrible friend and she kind of wants to get rid of anybody at any point, like it could be anybody can get it, so let me make sure I secure my twenty three year old ass seeing mom behind up in this group some good old fashioned what really went on but her between her and what is his name?

1:06:06 Speaker 1: Marciano? Okay from Vandon pum Villa, the girls from Something I'm from Secuzing Mormon crossover and there was some talk this season that maybe something went on too Marciano and gave me some flirting that landed with a kiss on the cheek or something. It seems like really a kiss on the head, like a something that only matters to people who were in the This is not a thing. This is so like like my friend's husband's or something would like, you know, give me like a kiss on the cheek or something in the same regardless as a hello or goodbye.

1:06:45 Speaker 1: What is what they were doing and we're finishing a conversation. So that was like, here's where respectfully ending it. Little do we now come to mother fucking find out? I think the gag and the scam now is between mars Siano and and and Jimmy and the kiss on the cheecken Italy Uh Jesse and Marciano allegedly making out at tom time turning into multiple like rendez vous ron devis.

1:07:17 Speaker 2: Child as her husband. I feel bad for I don't know what's going on.

1:07:23 Speaker 1: He's so cute and ready to go yes, and they why would you fuck that up? I'm sorry, I don't know. Okay, okay, but then if it is Marcy, I know it ain't gonna be the one that holds you down.

1:07:43 Speaker 2: Oh he is online. He is the thirstiest bitch I've ever seen online.

1:07:47 Speaker 1: So he.

1:07:49 Speaker 2: And exactly on the other ban.

1:07:53 Speaker 1: Upon because I don't know you live over there? Why are you in Italy?

1:07:55 Speaker 2: Right?

1:07:57 Speaker 1: That show didn't get picked up by Bravo. You know you can tell when people want to hot, you know, go to the next big one. And he is all thrilled. He was all too thrilled to bring that snowboard right on inside and be like let's go sit down. You look hot. Okay, believe you because this seems like you were like anybody can get it. But he's like, okay, so he's a legend that they've had, that they've done the deal yep, which is a yeah, Taylor soft swinging is no longer a problem. No, girl, I never want to hear about that again.

1:08:32 Speaker 1: Pull on.

1:08:34 Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh yes, and I'm ready to get into it, like give me season three now.

1:08:39 Speaker 1: Hello, who was your least favorite this season?

1:08:43 Speaker 3: Oh, it's gonna probably have to be Okay, this could be probably a wild choice. Demmy is the obvious choice because she really, you know, she was on my damn near and she couldn't back it up because every time Taylor pressed her, she would back down.

1:08:59 Speaker 2: And I was like, I know, that's right, that's my girl. You know who really kind of got on my nerves Michayla.

1:09:05 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what it was, but she really was on my nerves.

1:09:09 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, girl, you're doing a lot now, especially when you said three words last season.

1:09:15 Speaker 1: Oh, she was so up with her, like whoa she her? No? Okay, So I thought she was doing a lot until I realized that this was just her, This is her drugs, this is her beating petty. The boymans have to be petty. This is there, this is the gay. They can't have nothing else. She asked that producer, So you who who is? You already filmed, already already filmed with me?

1:09:42 Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1:09:46 Speaker 1: She hired a solid expert to make sure that it was better than her. Else it did. The US looked better. The CTO.

1:09:55 Speaker 3: It was like, that's not this, You're right, it better because if you if she got Macie and you got a professional, I mean, let's do what we're doing.

1:10:05 Speaker 1: Okay. Taylor took that ship so seriously.

1:10:08 Speaker 3: At some point the only reason she annoyed me was because she was doing that weird thing where you know when people like weaponize therapy where they're like, I'm not doing that, I'm just holding you accountable.

1:10:18 Speaker 2: I'm doing that. I'm doing that. I'm like, oh, that's that.

1:10:21 Speaker 3: That's that when when the motherfuckers go to therapy one good time and they get that one gem and they start throwing it, that ain't nothing worse than somebody therapy.

1:10:29 Speaker 1: That was Yeah, that was Jimmy. You can hear Jimmy do when she Taylor's mom. Yes, when she yelder Taylor's mom and she used to go home and be a mom, and then tried to call Leanne Manipula the for crying. I was like, are you kidding?

1:10:43 Speaker 2: Wow? Wow?

1:10:45 Speaker 1: Cry? And that's not my child? How dare you say that? That's so crazy? You need to go home and be a mom. What are you talking about? You don't like that? And when that's the second time you done brought up my motherhood and I'm finding appropriate because you don't approve my life choices doesn't mean I'm not a good parent, and shut up.

1:11:01 Speaker 3: And Taylor still won the same because she sent you a gift of Jesse's God damn her extensions.

1:11:06 Speaker 2: Ain't that's some ship?

1:11:08 Speaker 1: Bravo. Jimmy got so much? You see what come of.

1:11:16 Speaker 2: Why you send me this?

1:11:18 Speaker 1: You called for a vote to vote out our leader and is not here. You mad at her for being patty. When Taylor sent that box, that was good. She's said her mama to do her. That was good, she said, just because my mom is here to appeal to your heart.

1:11:38 Speaker 2: I'm not okay, I'm here to fight, bitch. What you want to do? I know what time I'm on, okay.

1:11:45 Speaker 1: I love that Taylor is so like Youett. No, I'm here to fight.

1:11:48 Speaker 2: Right what you what you thought this was shed?

1:11:51 Speaker 1: And they're like, okay, so where do you guys stand between Jimmy and Taylor? And Jimmy was like, you're gonna vote for me all though. Right, I'm not the one who said that I can't sustain with you. You said it, say it.

1:12:04 Speaker 3: Oh, because I don't get I have fun because you're and whacking your ass every time.

1:12:09 Speaker 2: Like I don't know who.

1:12:10 Speaker 1: Said I'm trying to do dances with you. You're the one who simply seems like you can't do it.

1:12:14 Speaker 2: Exactly what is it?

1:12:17 Speaker 1: And she left and so it was, and so it is. Okay.

1:12:23 Speaker 1: I want to know immediately what happens with Marciano and Jesse immediately. I want to know how that's gonna happen, because Layla is in good with those girls, she is in good with Jesse and now, so I don't know how this news is going to break, but I do know Hulu, y'all have it, so you need to tell me about it right now. Mm hmm.

1:12:42 Speaker 2: I heard they're gonna win to the Fall to release it and that.

1:12:44 Speaker 1: Really, I'm gonna say, y'all have nothing. You don't have past September, I'm gonna be mad. No, you don't have past.

1:12:50 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, drop it as a birthday gift for both me and Beyonce. That would be great.

1:12:54 Speaker 1: Labor that weekend. It's giving, that's days.

1:12:57 Speaker 2: Just sit on the couch and watch it. That's amazing, that's fantastic.

1:13:01 Speaker 1: That's I'm gonna love to get my virgos g I'll groove with y'all. Virgo Okay, thank you, listen, I love the Earth Sign party okay, okay, and the Taurusts have a good time.

1:13:16 Speaker 3: And we don't forget napkins, paper play. We don't forget nothing. Okay, it's all.

1:13:20 Speaker 1: First of all, the Virgos have all the sensis and all the materials like we're prepared. Yes, are gonna make sure that the accout monks are spectacular luxury. The food is gonna hit. It's gonna bless every time to go boxes. Yes, we have that. We're gonna bring the vibes like exactly well and realistically we all go on like ten o'clock. We can go watch our shows at home.

1:13:43 Speaker 2: And honestly, it was probably a day party because we okay, two to six, that's and then.

1:13:50 Speaker 1: I'm gonna can't wait to get on my jammys like I'm okay, okay, but put on my jammies like, okay, some pizza and relax to do my thing. Listen, get you on the Earth sign never go wrong.

1:14:04 Speaker 2: Okay, that's in your life.

1:14:06 Speaker 1: Maybe you will have a nice time eat well, have a nice time okay, and watch you some secret lives and normal wives well period period like gods, oh my final thoughts. Please Lord watch and protect over that man kid Cutty. I don't really worry about him. Yeah, that man k Cuddie took the stand today in the Diddy trial, and again we got eight weeks of this. I am overwhelmed every day, but.

1:14:35 Speaker 3: But mostly Ebany K Williams over there because she is breaking these weeks the fuck down, and I am I've.

1:14:41 Speaker 2: Been tuned in. Okay. She is giving us what we need. She breaks it down for what the average person needs to know, and she is listen, she's telling y'all.

1:14:50 Speaker 1: Transcript roll.

1:14:56 Speaker 2: Are making decisions?

1:15:00 Speaker 1: Are not you in my home? No? Not? What is going on out of I said, oh no, so you know you're out of control.

1:15:11 Speaker 2: Right right, sorry jail out of control.

1:15:16 Speaker 1: J Yeah, I did do that, you're right right? Wow boy yeah, be looking at Hi from across the room like the project like no, so okay, now you know you're gonna get it. I know.

1:15:30 Speaker 3: His defense lawyer like god, damn, we gotta we gotta, we gotta up here about him.

1:15:34 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're not doing the past. Say yesterday, they try.

1:15:38 Speaker 2: To say they cross examine her mama.

1:15:41 Speaker 3: You know, some ship her mama, And I get it because she was really like the closest thing you gonna get to, a perfect witness, Like that's the main victims, like, Mama, she you you told this woman to go and get a second mortgage for twenty you're a billionaire for twenty thousand dollars to give it to you, not to release the sex tape.

1:15:58 Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's crazy. Yeah, jail, jail, jail, then hell in jail. Did it got to be? He got to be, he got to go.

1:16:08 Speaker 1: That's not fair, my girl, that's not fair.

1:16:13 Speaker 2: He got at least two lifetimes. If she's doing two years.

1:16:18 Speaker 1: That's not fair. No listen, if y'all gonna put a handcuffs on Taylor Frankie ple, Oh baby.

1:16:25 Speaker 3: No, that's that's the neighbor dog. And she came because it's about let me see what time is. It's seven thirty. Oh yeah, she wants her snack because she comes over here to get snacks from me for some reason. So and now and now when socks hears her, she goes to food.

1:16:39 Speaker 2: It's a mess. Okay, a miss. Oh god, it's a damn girl.

1:16:46 Speaker 1: I love it.

1:16:48 Speaker 2: I love it.

1:16:49 Speaker 1: Zoom. Don't treat yourselves, Okay, that good old sweet to see your lives some of that house I was of Atlanta. Listen. The content is content in these days. I'm in my bag now, and but there's so much to consume from my bed. So take care of yourselves and treat yourself to some of that Rick, Where can they find you? What are you talking about? What are they listening to? Right now? When they go listen to I cannot my.

1:17:14 Speaker 3: Gosh, y'all can can find me anywhere you listen to podcasts? I cannot as I k e Ian not with Kendrick Tucker, Apple, Spotify, Google, I heard all of the places, y'all. Don't talk about a little bit of everything. Okay, I'm talking about these damn shows. I'm talking about my life. I'm talking about pop culture. I'm talking about any random Netflix documentary that speaks.

1:17:31 Speaker 2: To my heart.

1:17:31 Speaker 3: I'm talking about forever. I'm talking about all of the shit. Okay, the Secret Lives, I definitely talked about them. Matter of fact, on my most recent episode, I gave all of them new hairstyles because I still can't tell them apart. So let's just jump in, just do the foolishness with me. Yeah, everybody, somebody Jimmy walk in.

1:17:47 Speaker 1: Side by side. Actually, I couldn't tell them apart, and I watched them. Why I can tell them apart. But they're hard and sometimes they really are, like that's why they hate each other. They're like my face. You know. Anytime you get one of those documentaries, now now, now, Tinder, y'all heard, y'all here here first, if you have a documentary or something that you're watching on that Netflix to that hulul Kendrin, you better call me. Well you need somebody to talk about it, because you know I love oh I stay in the docks.

1:18:15 Speaker 1: I stay in the docks. I love a true crime. Anything. There is no crime true that is not true enough I do from the murder to the bitcoins, because anybody has, if anybody, if y'all have not seen that biggest tist ever on Netflix with those they're they're so cringey. You gotta be really prepared because the pringspector of those of that Lady wrapping is out of control. But it is astronomically like it is so good, So I highly recommend. But yeah, go listen to Ken talk about the things that I cannot and you know where to find me and all the things as well at Mixing with Money and my x I E G W I T H M A N I. Thank you so much for listening.

1:19:00 Speaker 1: Leave a little review review, say nice words. If you have no nice words, then maybe don't leave a review, because don't do that. Don't be me. Don't be a Jimmy in a world because I'll be a tailor return and that's not it. You shouldn't do that. Yeah, take care of yourselves and each other. He do what you gotta do to disassociate and have a nice life, you know. Thank you guys for listening.

1:19:27 Speaker 5: Babe,