Secret Lives of Mormon Wives S2 w/ Kaya (@bravowhileblack)

0:00 Speaker 1: Oh, hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologists out there.

0:30 Speaker 2: Girls, guys, gays, girls, squirrels, squirrels, all of all. I don't know how this is gonna go, but I do know that we have a lot to discuss with the secret lives of normal lives, and so we're going to do our absolute best to do it.

0:49 Speaker 1: Hire is here from Brapo we pay.

0:54 Speaker 2: I cannot wait to hear what her thoughts are about Whitney. She has told me at least six seven times that Whitney is absolutely gonna get this.

1:02 Speaker 1: Wrath from her.

1:04 Speaker 2: I don't quite know why actually yet, but I'm willing to find out because something about Whitney really makes me irritated. It makes me feel like the most racist, even though I know they're all of the same, you know one.

1:17 Speaker 1: Mind, Yeah, we get six. We look past that.

1:23 Speaker 2: We look past that, so that we can just discuss in Glee as just two fun black gurlies about these likely racist, very fun to watch, entertaining. We don't know what kind of friendship they have white gurlies who are Mormon from Salt Lake City, UTA.

1:43 Speaker 1: And so yeah, here is Guaya.

1:46 Speaker 2: With me so that we can figure out why we like this, but more so why y'all are not watching this season?

1:52 Speaker 1: Because it was bananas.

1:54 Speaker 3: So Kia welcome, happy to be here, like you were just on my I thought, I got hey, wait that drop today, Hey y'all if y'all listening right now, goes into my podcast, absolutely had money on and we talked about it was a Bravo bite, I will say, and it was a fun Bravo bites. And now I get to come here and talk even more of secret lives woman wives because when I talked about it with you guys, I had Hakeem on the black guy from episode two who was also on the Bachelor. He was amazing. He was amazed, like love him, Oh, hopes he finds, hopes that he finds loving paradise.

2:35 Speaker 3: Then I had a bonnet fest, Yes he will be on Bachelor Paradise he show. Yes, I want him to find love so much. And then if he doesn't girly slide in the DMS, you know, maybe I will who knows, Okay, And then we had bonnetfest with Kendrick Raven and then we got Aaron because Aaron's schedule the way we had to move mountains, like move mountain I love Aaron so much, but Aaron is the fun that is the funniest. Okay, so, but was able to get Aaron, was able to get Raven and able to get Kiddreck in the same place, and it's like wrangling, like straight cats, y'all, Like it was crazy.

3:25 Speaker 3: But some time has gone by since that. That was like right after the show came out, and now more stuff. You know, people, I've decided to, you know, settle in my feelings. Who I like, who I don't like, Who do I care? Is the villain, who's not the villain. I've had some inner actions, I've seen some things online. Let's get it started. In the words of dude from Black Eyed Peas, will I am or William?

3:54 Speaker 2: But for real, this season, I don't know what I expected because I don't remember all that happened in season one, and I think that's okay. I knew I had a great time and then I was gonna be all in because I had a lot of questions, specifically around Dakota and Taylor, because every time I looked they were on Instagram still dancing together, being together, attending things together.

4:21 Speaker 1: So like Ramamsa, Pravo and other accounts.

4:23 Speaker 2: Would just report that they're back together, and so now we know it's because they were still sleeping together. And that because a major point of contention quite a few times in this.

4:36 Speaker 1: Lady's personal life, like and I'm.

4:38 Speaker 2: Being a real personal like step dad commenting on what I thought in the worst way, in the worst way. First of all, if your cycle with this baby daddy of yours is so round and round, circular, I mean circular.

4:56 Speaker 1: Right it is.

4:58 Speaker 2: We leave on a cliffhanger last season that a lady was texting and hanging out with Dakota when he wasn't with Taylor. Sometimes he was lying to lying to Taylor and saying he was somewhere else when he was with this girl spending the ninety But we find out not in a sexual way, No, No, he values her in that way. He would literally spend all day romancing and love bombing this girl and then go home and.

5:27 Speaker 1: Sleep with his the mother of his child.

5:30 Speaker 2: And I think that's I can understand why she has a bit of an attitude problem.

5:35 Speaker 1: That's pretty bad to find out in the worst way. Where beginning of the season season two.

5:42 Speaker 2: Macy sends her down with old girl, the girl that she confirmed had this affair type thing with Dakota, whether they were together or not, apparently as irrelevant. They were having this baby together, and you were coming home and you were doing this thing.

5:58 Speaker 1: With her, but you were going out and you.

6:00 Speaker 2: Were spending all this time of weekends and money hello on this other lady and not telling me either one about the other.

6:07 Speaker 1: And that's kind of terrible. So they now.

6:09 Speaker 2: Meet up and not all minds are on the same accord.

6:12 Speaker 1: Okay, we're all on one accord.

6:14 Speaker 2: They're all in state. They all know the truth. She looked through the phones and everything. I love the access we have on the show to these ladies' phones. Always show the tax bringing, the receipts, look open the bot.

6:28 Speaker 1: She let her go through it. Who's ever heard of such a thing?

6:32 Speaker 3: I said, the duck, let's see her phone? Not, I said the duck.

6:37 Speaker 1: Yes, please, So like, let me watch it. I want to watch it again. I can't wait to rewatch this.

6:42 Speaker 3: Oh okay, so I don't even know where to start. I also like to say that, Okay, well, the suread is over. You guys, y'all have known me for almost five years coming up in June, so you guys know that I'm I try not to be violent, but it just it's envy when I say at that table with my family, if my family would have reacted the way that Taylor's family reacted and basically said what does that say about you? I would have knocked all that shit off the table. I would literally I would have gave the coat of the baby and I would have left and I would have raced my life because y'all can have that, y'all can have all of it.

7:24 Speaker 3: I'm going back. I would even consider going back to my ex husband that I cheated on. Okay, maybe it wasn't so bad over there, because this was the craziest shit I ever seen in my life. Her brother is like, give him, give him an inch so he can walk him out, Like that's exactly what he did. She gave him an inch.

7:42 Speaker 2: It's actually it's actually an insult when someone says that to you, You give them an inch, and they it means that they take advantage.

7:51 Speaker 1: They said too far.

7:53 Speaker 3: And then the dad is like. The dad is like, oh are you are you wearing a sexy costume so Halloween? And she's like it's me girls. And then the dad is just like, well, you let him have sex deal when you just met him? What does that say about you? Then goes up the stairs. But if you don't get true,

8:14 Speaker 3: her sister.

8:16 Speaker 2: Was the only person who had any kind of sense this whole season in that family. It made me feel really bad for Taylor because she seems to reinforce all of these negative thoughts about herself and this opinion about herself. As soon as her dad said that to her, she said, I know don't you think I know that? And I'm like, no, whoa hold on? That's not a response I expected. So I'm here to correct that for you. Tailor girl, incorrect you. You're not the issue in this situation with Dakota.

8:44 Speaker 4: I understand him wanting a clear and definitive answer, but I also understand you feelings so hesitated up until the brim, her religion and the way she wants to raise her children, and her self.

8:58 Speaker 2: Worth, and her feeling the way she feels about how her last relationship ended. She feels like this is somewhat of a punishment for herself, and she doesn't know if she's just stay in it or not, and that is taking up time. He is not making it easy by absolutely going to town on her every time, and it's the way he talks to her. I don't understand of men, like for straight earlyies out there. It's the way he's talking to you if you don't really know what the problem is, like you're like I can't quite put my finger on it, while we're just not clicking or understanding, like it's it's like we're talking, but like it just he seems to I don't know what to do.

9:32 Speaker 2: It's because the way he's speaking to you is probably really fucking up your nervous system. Sorry, Like the way Dakota speaks to Taylor and how he talks to her, there's ultimatum after ultimatum. It's aggressive. It's very annoying. His pupils are mac and dating.

9:49 Speaker 3: Nuts the way that they do not drink soda, but they'll take camine out like they're like they're at the wos die. Everyone keeps saying, oh, they're at that soda I mean at that Halloween party on swig on soda. I'm like, yeah, soda absolutely, caffeine and sugar absolutely, But also had a mean which asked Elon about that because he does not as asking out for doing too much of that. But that's another uh, y'all. But yeah, it's just insane. It's him, He's the problem. I think that it was also just finding out that I thought that I was the main chick and this girl was the side chick, and it turns out that it was the opposite.

10:35 Speaker 3: I'm the side chick, and not only was I the side check, I'm the side trick that had the baby. So now I'm connected to you for life.

10:46 Speaker 2: And you're pressing me about a marriage and a proposal the entire time you're dating this girl. That's also kind of crazy. It should be worth her being even more hesitated. If not, I would run. I don't know what you're talking about. There is not enough good whatever he's got going on in that band, okay to justify me contemplating a proposal.

11:10 Speaker 1: Still, like are you an Mary or not? Like are we to doing or not?

11:14 Speaker 3: Like a romantic it's our romantic.

11:17 Speaker 2: I'm finding out that you've been dating and courting this girl while you've been coming home.

11:21 Speaker 1: It's treating me like the.

11:22 Speaker 2: Town nightly flood at the booty call hour every single time, and I'm carrying your child, and you're like, do you want it or not? You want this where or not I want to have a baby with you. I love you, but.

11:36 Speaker 3: What way? What an insurance policy?

11:40 Speaker 2: So why don't you go ahead and step I'm good. I just keep the baby and be like it's fine. It's a rap on both of y'all. Layla's doing it at twenty three.

11:51 Speaker 3: That's bananas insane, and.

11:55 Speaker 1: I believe it's a rumor allegedly it's a she cheated. So go for you, girl. You want to do what you're going to do?

12:03 Speaker 3: Yes, right, I don't know. I support women's wrongs rights and in betweens.

12:11 Speaker 2: I love the idea of guy being on our side. Everybody, like, please understand that, so do your wrongs and.

12:16 Speaker 1: Rights for least.

12:19 Speaker 3: You know what you're trying. Like, we're in this time, especially because I'm watching a show where the men are trying to tell the women what to do and you know, how to act. And while they're saying that, you know, I have this husband where trad wives X, Y, and Z, I'm also like lost because they're also saying I'm the breadwinner, this man has dropped out of school, or this man is the now the homemaker. That's not a trad wife. You are actually in the position of power to be the man. So for me when I see that, it just this is me off because I know so many women that are in the position and that have been in the position where they actually have to stay because they actually have to be a tried wife, because they are actually stuck.

13:12 Speaker 3: And it's because they lived in this warming community and they're in this religion and they were brought up a certain way. I understand that, but at the same time, it's weird with them because if you were brought up a certain way and you're in this religion and you truly believe that and you truly obey your husband, and you can't go skinny dipping, you can't go to Chippingdales, you can't. But you can be on TikTok, you can be on a reality show. You can travel the world, you go on Van and pump Villa.

13:44 Speaker 3: No, there's two different things along at once, and something cleaning the milk. So it's like I don't feel bad for like I can only feel bad for so long. And when it comes to Taylor Frinky Paul, I think that she just has so much like trauma that she's like, Okay, I had these kids probably never came out of that postpartum depression, because it takes you years to come out of that. But then during that you also had a whole swinging thing. You went online, you bow up your life, You got called every dame in the motherfucking book.

14:14 Speaker 3: But then the show gets picked up and you don't know how it was going to be received. It was received very well but also received poorly by your community. So even though you've already like went through that being shun, you're getting shun in a public kind of way. Probably you know, members from the actual church are coming out against you. Then you got this dude who you also have to add that layer of him being an addict and you don't want to trigger him to use again, so he doesn't just have that whole religion baby, big daddy things more than triggered.

15:00 Speaker 2: The pupils and triggered him into one into uh what you say, it triggered him into it.

15:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, you might want to check attle light.

15:10 Speaker 3: More than triggered.

15:16 Speaker 1: Hair teas.

15:20 Speaker 3: And I noticed it. Both the Cord Dakota and Whitney's gay husband got their hair done, they got their their hairline, They transplants. They didn't go to Turkey. They got transplants, though you got male transplants. So I wonder if when you get your hair transplanted and they don't pull one of your hairs, does it test clean? That's a mean,

15:50 Speaker 3: can someone let us know because I know that if you were a willing obviously you can test clean. But if you're a man and you got a hair transplant, how does it drig plus come out?

16:03 Speaker 1: I guess does it start to grow out of your hair?

16:06 Speaker 2: Like is it fonding to actual hair and then growing out because it does become your actual hair that's coming out of your scalp, then that would definitely let us now steal some things.

16:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I feel like they would have to root you.

16:20 Speaker 2: Know what I mean, like at the root of it. If it's like you know what I mean, look at it takes some time. I don't know if you get a hair transplant, if your hair starts to actually grow at any point, like do they check it text to sea, then it's like doing okay, Like is the hair follicles like growing and all? Is it at the root though, at the root that's gonna be who you are? Or is it a lace front okay?

16:41 Speaker 5: Or is it is that a cheap option at.

16:45 Speaker 1: The Ali Express. Glue it on every day naked, the go naked option.

16:54 Speaker 3: Shout, Oh my god, go naked. Well okay, no, we can't do the naked because remember we got to talk about Jesse and her I mean not her, would you yes?

17:10 Speaker 2: Oh wow, my wife just let me know the Pacers are going to the finals.

17:14 Speaker 1: That's fantastic.

17:15 Speaker 3: Shout out to Pacer who's I love football.

17:21 Speaker 1: Shout out to y'all they go to the super Bowl.

17:26 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Well, anyways, what were you saying?

17:34 Speaker 3: I was just talking about Jesse and her hair someone and I wonder.

17:39 Speaker 6: Would you go to I like either hair extensions or color?

17:48 Speaker 2: Said that she might be good at color, but I think she might not.

17:54 Speaker 1: I don't think hair extensions are her thing.

17:57 Speaker 3: I like Jesse.

17:59 Speaker 2: Is, yeah, she said, I don't. She's greater extensions, And I just don't think color.

18:04 Speaker 1: Is like her thing.

18:06 Speaker 3: People extension because they'll see Layla hair, no shade.

18:09 Speaker 2: Okay, but is that oh yes, okay? How much of that is maintenance?

18:15 Speaker 1: Right?

18:15 Speaker 2: How much of that is I'm just asking, you know, just questions how much of that is We didn't even run a brush through the back because she was in the little van produce a wagon for far too long and pressed up against it and it's separated that we couldn't.

18:30 Speaker 1: Just you know, brush a little lever.

18:32 Speaker 3: Like we do. Our need to know why is Layla still using no offense like shout out to Jesse because that was you know, that was her girl, that was her friend. But at this point you are on season two, you are you know, making money fly out say fly out, Jonathan, fly out one of the like the girls to do your hair like we're not We're not doing Jesse jay z styles anymore. As a black woman, I mean as a white woman, I feel like, absolutely if I was a white woman that.

19:05 Speaker 1: Would do you know that she wasn't she know? But she doesn't know that, you know?

19:11 Speaker 3: Okay? To be fair, I would like to say that who I would like to say that this is what I heard from the grape vine and people telling me. And then also Chase himself, Chase who is the diva, the star, the one that I feel like I related to the most, especially at the Halloween party when he was like, don't talk about my fucking podcast. It's good, same good, same diva down like do like that was and then I posted about it and he was like insensitive, you know. He commented on my posts and it was so funny.

19:47 Speaker 3: But he is not a Trump supporter, So that was like shocking to me. Sorry for that because I definitely thought that he was. And apparently Miranda is not, and then Layla is not. So those are the three that are not MAGA. As far as if the rest are MAGA, I don't know if that's a yes or no. I just know who's not and Leila.

20:13 Speaker 1: System that understand.

20:15 Speaker 2: I approached watching this show with the understanding that all of them.

20:19 Speaker 3: I thought that, Yeah, that's why I'm shocked.

20:21 Speaker 2: That's where I was like, Okay, I'm watching in spite the first time the first time I heard the theme song or so, I like the I think eating for Southern Charm back in the day, like Charleston. I thought, oh, this is going to be uncomfortable, but I think I have.

20:42 Speaker 1: To still watch it.

20:46 Speaker 3: Charm a little bit late, but I just season that was in it.

20:49 Speaker 2: And I it was it was hard, but I remember I remember the scenes before they got cut and then we looked back.

20:57 Speaker 3: Again and thought that was easy watching that though. I'm like she was like, yeah, so this is where we keep the dead slaves. And then I'm also, I'm also, I'm twenty one years old and I'm pregnant and you're sixty sixty and I'm like, wait, that was a lot of information.

21:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then once Savannah and then rolled around, I said, oh, I understand, like I love New Orleans, but Savannah was so dark that I.

21:23 Speaker 3: Still watched Savannah, and then I did it one day.

21:27 Speaker 1: It's chronically all yeah, I said, for her life, but it's always on an on demand binge day.

21:33 Speaker 3: Always bring back Nolans, bring back Nolans.

21:39 Speaker 1: Tell it's bad honestly.

21:42 Speaker 2: Okay, so but that honestly even that to say, I watched the first season of Secret Lives of Normal Wives with the full understanding. First of all, who mom top was. I watched the whole deep dive. I loved watching the drama on the internet.

21:56 Speaker 3: I know nothing about it. I came into it.

22:00 Speaker 1: It was amazing.

22:01 Speaker 2: People really ended up hating it became wild. People really expected a lot of success for Taylor because people were really siding with her. This whole thing became a scandal, and everybody reacted in her community in this one way.

22:15 Speaker 1: But the world reacted in a different way.

22:17 Speaker 2: A lot of people ended up rallying behind Taylor Franky Paul because they were like, we don't care.

22:23 Speaker 1: In fact, this was kind of lit.

22:25 Speaker 3: I want to know more, but I can. I also respect it because she was listen and that's the thing, hang.

22:33 Speaker 1: Me out to dry. We were all, first of all, I can't swing solo.

22:36 Speaker 3: Hello, that's what it's called hello. And then for Miranda to bring her ass on there and say, oh, I wasn't doing this, that and the other. I only kissed the girl. And then Taylor was like, we were sucking, We was turning, and we was twisting. We was doing that. I'm like, wait, hold on the.

22:54 Speaker 2: Whole list of all the things that they did. Some of my favorites to remember were that they I just couldn't get them on of my mind. I don't know why, No, we need to invest in that. You know that they had sex both times, multiple times in the shower with each other, with their husbands and in the same bed something the same bed, okay, big ben.

23:20 Speaker 1: Or just little people, I don't know, but.

23:25 Speaker 3: For you, okay, I love it. She was like, oh, we would make old each other and guess who's who who the partner was.

23:38 Speaker 1: I guess.

23:38 Speaker 3: I think that was one thing. They would kiss each other blindfolded and then guess who they were kissing, So I guess, I'm like, okay, so that saw swinging, so I guess they were technically penetrating each other.

23:53 Speaker 2: The husbands there were four husbands and two girls, just two of them, and they were wearing yes, her and Miranda, and they were wearing shorts, and the husbands thought that they should go upstairs and change into shorter shorts. So they did went up changing shorter shorts and like gave either black dancers or dances or something like that. And that was one of the last things that she said. And Mirenda goes, I mean, it was not wrong lying about what.

24:25 Speaker 1: Happened about any of that, just because she was like that that you kissed one time a girl?

24:32 Speaker 3: That thing, No, because she was insistent upon what could I ever do?

24:37 Speaker 1: Would spend the bottle apparently not?

24:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, she spun more than a bottle? Was yeah, exactly. No.

24:45 Speaker 1: She was literally like.

24:48 Speaker 3: She was like, well, I guess am, I am I swear. I'm like, let me answer it for you, baby, Yes, yes, yes, we're.

24:56 Speaker 1: Having a nice time in the world. Endeed of not caring.

24:59 Speaker 2: So when Taylor was like, y'all are not gonna hate me out to dry and act like this is my fault and everything is like I'm this feeling this bad person in the community. Her friends all dropped her. She had to find new friends and find a whole new group, you know, in order to make this thing happen. That's where you got your Demi Layla Jesse, Like, that's kind of why it is wild that Demi is like kind of throwing her on the bus this way and trying to like get rid of her in this way, because she kind of put that together and they did still really well and did well in that first season.

25:31 Speaker 2: She did not know how that first season was gonna go because she had to put that group together. That was not her original mom talk group that she made, but this is the one she got the deal. She had to put it together and it went really well. Demmy, You're not a fan favorite. The fan favorite was still Tailor because it was still like it's technically like a built around her being accountable and trying to rebuild her life even though she doesn't feel like she deserves to. And we really felt like and saw a lot of that this season.

25:57 Speaker 2: We just didn't hate you. Thought we got to see you the most and you had the best personality.

26:05 Speaker 1: Last first season. I looked back at my notes from season.

26:08 Speaker 2: One and I was like, Oh, it was just that she talked and that was all we needed the first time because the only other person that did talk was Whitney or Taylor.

26:18 Speaker 1: So that was all we needed.

26:20 Speaker 2: And Taylor Whitney had a lot to say because that lady had a lot of redemption that she needed to do that first season with the whole Oh boy, where to start the RSV to talk the bachelors situations? While you texted me something about that husband of hers and you said something you might think of him allegriedly, and I think many people might agree with you. Something that that's factuful situation reminded me of and her husband is.

26:53 Speaker 1: Okay.

26:54 Speaker 3: What I like about him this season is that he's now in on the joke. He knows that we know mm hmm like. And that's why when they did that Mormon bake off, when he did when we did that Mormon bake off and then one of them put like little penises, I think it was didn't put little penises.

27:15 Speaker 1: In there and.

27:18 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no, because Layla's was ship she could be making. And then he's like, I don't really mind.

27:27 Speaker 1: I go ahead, and he was.

27:29 Speaker 3: Like I don't really mind the penises, and I was like, too easy.

27:33 Speaker 2: I know, right, he must know because that purpose everybody in the room that I was watching not watching with, you know, they think they say they're not watching, but they're watching while I'm watching. They were all like, one, we all heard that, right, And I'm like, no, we did.

27:57 Speaker 1: He did too. I think he's I think he knows.

27:59 Speaker 3: I think but and then like we didn't get into and this is what I'm hoping that the second half or the third season, especially now that Okay, let me just get her, let me let me break you down with me.

28:13 Speaker 1: Second half and not a third.

28:15 Speaker 3: Season RSV mom. I don't expect much from RSV mom. I would never expect something from someone who could not just like, Okay, I get making a TikTok. I mean maybe I don't even I don't necessarily get that, but I'm saying I can separate making a TikTok when your child is in the ICU for RSV, but I cannot separate you making a TikTok dance explaining why your child is in the hospital, and I see you a baby by the way in the background in the back, and you are because I and I can say this because I was I've been in ICU even as an adult, and my mama would not even take a photo okay the only time, Like it was crazy.

29:11 Speaker 3: My mama literally just be ready as soon as a nurse come in the room. Can we get some more juice please? Like, no, there's no time for dancing. There's no time for about an hour and a half can happen, you know, right, Like my daughter is in pain and she reading okay, okay, So I don't expect much from a person who can do that. However, if you are now on a Hulu show and you now have a different audience, because when you were on TikTok, then that's your community, that's who you are, you know, those are the people that follow you.

29:50 Speaker 3: That's your ministry. But now that you are on a streaming service and you're with these other people and you are in you are now a public figure. I could understand. If she doesn't understand. So what happened was is she posted a TikTok about how she is dressed up as a European mammy, and I'm like, mammy, Okay, let's just say she didn't know the implications, didn't know what that means. A lot of people in the comments are saying, well, in Ireland, well I've never heard well that when I was a boy, like all this shit everyone.

30:27 Speaker 3: A lot of these people that are you, you know, you know those kind of people are like, why are we offended? Why are we offended? Okay, It's like, it's okay to claim ignorance, or not even claim ignorance. It's okay to be ignorant. But once you have the person who originated the trending like thing that you have going on reach out to you publicly and say hey, I started this trend and you are doing X, Y and z, and then you have a bunch of people in the comments telling you this is offensive. You have a duty to do something, whether that is an apology or whether it's just taking it down, whether it is you know, whatever it is.

31:12 Speaker 3: So that's why when they drag her when she ultimately I hope someone really really like gets into what happened. Why did they have to move in the first place, and what happened with that tender thing? Was he on tender or was he on grinder? Why did you Why will he on a dating app if he's already married? Yeah? Yes there is? So what was that about? So much so that not only did you you know, have this strife in your marriage, but you guys left and then came back. What happened there?

31:56 Speaker 1: At first?

31:56 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, you know season two.

32:00 Speaker 1: What happened for real? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, And Whitney was like, Oh, you're not gonna do this without me.

32:05 Speaker 3: I'll be then, I don't care, And I thought they were there, And.

32:09 Speaker 2: She came back very entitled season one and became the villain, and most people ended up hating her because they thought that she was so entitled and rude to Taylor when we were like, you're no, Like she was so mad that people gave Taylor grace for being a quote unquote like swinger slash s what and she didn't get grace for dancing around her childho.

32:30 Speaker 1: Can't breathe.

32:32 Speaker 3: On the brink of death. You're ontep and for what for?

32:37 Speaker 1: Views? For what purpose? And awareness?

32:43 Speaker 2: We're not saying, but we're not doing anything with that it's not a thing. You're not even going live from the baby be like, hey guys, here's an update.

32:49 Speaker 1: You're just dancing. Next thing is I se stupid? It's bananas, And then we're allowed to have an attitude about that. That's disrespectful.

33:00 Speaker 3: I had the nerve to also talk about how the public tore her up. She went through so much, she had to deal with a lot. She did, had so much backlash. Bitch, I don't care good good And the crazy thing is I liked her this season because she came in begging, crying, pleading on her knees, and Taylor is more of a gracious queen because me personally, I would have been like, bitch, you could go it's.

33:31 Speaker 2: Not so smart as hell. Whitney was good and funny this season.

33:34 Speaker 1: I ain't go hold you like.

33:35 Speaker 5: She was funnier.

33:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, laughing at herself a little bit before, and she knew we would be.

33:40 Speaker 1: Laughing at her, so she didn't have a choice. Was she faking it?

33:43 Speaker 2: I would say the time there were moments that I were watching that I was like, she's so calculated.

33:49 Speaker 1: I kind of want to know where her, like I kid would be.

33:52 Speaker 2: I don't think she's like that smart her chance, but I'm just I wonder how her brain works sometimes because I not.

34:00 Speaker 1: She would do things.

34:01 Speaker 2: Every time the camera was on someone who was speaking and she was and knew she was sitting next to them, and she knew that they were saying something that was gonna get filmed, she would do something they would explicitly put her in the shot, whether it was touch someone's back or throw feel someone's hair, or move anything from someone, or do something at the table or nod and hold someone's baby and just say like, hey, let's be the one that every single time, it was like every time I could not see it, so I was just like this real smart, She's like, I'm not going anywhere.

34:40 Speaker 3: But not only that, she was like, Okay, I'm listening. I'm gonna make it.

34:46 Speaker 1: She kind of clocked in. She was really funny to me.

34:49 Speaker 3: And she was also like, I'm going to make friends with be outcasts as my new.

34:57 Speaker 2: One's girly because Michayla and Macy say bye bye yeah.

35:01 Speaker 3: And people were really mad, Like a lot of people were like because they think that Mikayla needs to understand that on a reality show, you have to let things roll off in order for the group to be good.

35:14 Speaker 1: But for me, where when?

35:16 Speaker 2: How when did we ever like anything roll off on a reality show?

35:19 Speaker 1: Ever? How long have we been talking about sprinkle cookies?

35:22 Speaker 3: What that's my thing?

35:25 Speaker 2: Mikayla did great TV being mad at this bitch Hall year. It was hilarious.

35:30 Speaker 3: I'm like, everyone can't, everyone can't fucking forgive her. I'm sorry, Like Taylor, that was shocking, but Taylor knows good TV. And also Taylor was.

35:40 Speaker 1: She would work with her. She's like, we can be Cordel, I don't care whatever.

35:43 Speaker 3: Just but it wasn't even just to forgive her. It wasn't even just that. It was like Taylor No, Like Taylor was stressed out, she got this man stressing her out, she got a new baby, she got her family that hates her. Like, okay, fuck Whitney. Like Whitney is like the least of her problem. So sure, sure, she's good TV.

36:00 Speaker 1: She wants it that bad, It's fine.

36:01 Speaker 2: She's also already asked for three live votes practically good for it, and got the not the first one.

36:07 Speaker 1: I was crazy.

36:09 Speaker 2: I was like, oh baby, you really risk it for the visit and the fact that she asked.

36:13 Speaker 1: For it again.

36:14 Speaker 2: Is I got a respect her. I'm not gonna lie. I don't like her at all. In fact, I don't really think I do respect her, But in that moment, I'm like, that's great.

36:26 Speaker 5: No, she was entertained, like she she kind of ate, but you know than she was season one. Just putting that peace stick in the cake was about domb it for me. I was going that was and then they say, oh, you shouldn't got everyone's house.

36:43 Speaker 3: She didn't even do that at her house.

36:44 Speaker 1: Like, you know, I like her husband a little bit more than I thought.

36:47 Speaker 3: I would, because he's leaning into it and like he's he he knows that.

36:54 Speaker 2: We know Taylor a lot of grace at that Halloween party and he was like, hey.

36:58 Speaker 3: Because he sees things outside.

37:00 Speaker 2: Is like, listen, I understand a scandal where the girls won't stop talking, especially about what you do in your bedroom time, but like you gotta like let yourself like move on and move past it, especially if you're trying. Like I understand though, that it gets longer, gets hard, and I'm like, yeah, she is struggling. I really felt bad for Taylor because you see, she doesn't have a lot of support, like for herself outside of mom talk, and that is very fragile and not very real because we don't know how deep their support is.

37:36 Speaker 1: But it feels like when you would.

37:38 Speaker 2: Have a one of those challenges in science class or like physics to make a structure that would hold, like an egg or whatever, you would use different materials to do it. It feels like we're trying out different things the whole mom talk together. Because if y'all are having votes this many times.

37:59 Speaker 1: And this.

38:01 Speaker 3: No, oh my god, we have a problem.

38:05 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can work together, you're gonna have a stone cold issue every time y'all have had like three full votes about who was going to be there and you have thought about them.

38:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, And then not only that, it's like if she were to go and try to make new friends, are you my friend because you're actually my friend? Or are you my friend because I'm Taylor friending Paul? Like the way TikTok gives out bags, the sponsorships all that shit. It's like, mom talking is not the quote unquote sisterhood, which is like me and my last brain cell. It's not the sisterhood. The sisterhood that that part really killed me, that they're making it to be.

38:51 Speaker 2: Like we're willing to dance together to make enough money.

38:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like that is why I like, I like did me and I liked that she was in her villain era, but I do not respect that she tried to get Jesse kicked out of Mom Talk just because Jesse is already a millionaire. Okay, cool, But then on top of that, not only do you want her out of mom Talk, right, but not just that, like that's the number one thing loyalty, but okay, fuck the loyalty. Okay, so you're pocket watching. Number one, you pocket watching, Then number two, you got the nerve.

39:29 Speaker 1: Too, to be honest, you my finances.

39:32 Speaker 3: On top of that, you got the nerve to then break down my motherfucking business so you don't want me on mom Talk or see your Lasmo own lives. And then on top of that, you don't want people to come into my salon? Are you serious?

39:48 Speaker 1: SamArt?

39:50 Speaker 2: A whole conversation about how bad like my salon might be based on how my best friend set it up.

39:56 Speaker 3: To look and try to get me off the show while also trying.

40:01 Speaker 1: To get me off the show. So you wanted both businesses to fail.

40:03 Speaker 2: You hate me just say that, and the fact that Jesse's like I just and gets a lot to process. I mean, I'm glad she understood it, but I was like, oh, it's a rap for me, but I'm gonna.

40:12 Speaker 3: Tell her different Earth's signs. Do not do that, because I'm.

40:23 Speaker 1: Not an idiot. That's like just being a realist.

40:27 Speaker 2: You doing one thing to affect my business, speak negatively to one of our friends and a very influential member in our group, and you.

40:36 Speaker 1: Know that, and you know that we're all here because of Taylor.

40:40 Speaker 2: That doesn't not yet acknowledged by these ladies, So it's okay to say that.

40:44 Speaker 1: You know that you're gonna tell her not to come to me.

40:48 Speaker 2: So that she can do tiktoks and stuff from my salon like the other girls do with her big following. I'm trying to go somewhere else because she's well, I didn't say that.

40:57 Speaker 1: You're trying to start drama. See she's terrible, she's awful.

41:02 Speaker 3: Terrible, doesn't do that.

41:04 Speaker 1: I don't think they go for her for color, but she's really good at extensions.

41:08 Speaker 2: Whichever the lie was, you said something shady, and Taylor called you out on it, and That's why I like her. And then I also like it at the Christmas party that you did not invite her to on her show.

41:22 Speaker 1: Crazy.

41:23 Speaker 2: That is why I think people like michaelab can get a pass to be like, I don't want to be around someone.

41:28 Speaker 1: Like you, because Whitney could end up being in the same position.

41:31 Speaker 2: But in season three and watch she will. She'll be the king of mon talk by season four. Don't worry Whenney's coming for y'all. I can see it. I don't like everybody can tell you that that's happening, like slowly.

41:43 Speaker 1: Making her way from the bottom to the top.

41:45 Speaker 3: Okay, With Michayla, it's like people are like, oh, well, she's doing too much now because she didn't do shit last season. Like no, actually, when I had a beef with the bitch, I'm not gonna forgive her just like that, Like I don't have to.

41:59 Speaker 1: I don't really understanding what chronicles.

42:00 Speaker 3: Also, she literally gave us. She gave us storyline like this girl literally talked about her childhood trauma, talked about how she was molested by a family member until the age of like fifteen sixteen, her own mother didn't believe her. Then her fucking predator husband is there who married her and got her pregnant at sixteen, and she keeps getting pregnant and that's why she looked like that, because she stressed the fuck out.

42:28 Speaker 1: She's her chronic on this for a long time.

42:31 Speaker 2: It's really interesting that they didn't spend a lot of time on that for her, But they also didn't spend a lot of time on that for Jesse. Jesse has the same we had same that word stories. So that's that's kind of crazy. Uh, that's what I've been dealing with for the last year or so, and it's helped god longer.

42:49 Speaker 3: Than I'm so sorry to hear that, because that is not like, that's just painful.

42:58 Speaker 1: It is so bad.

42:59 Speaker 2: It used to be like the brainfall alone used to be the worst thing in the world. So oh boy, it looked at the idea of trying to finish a thought at any point of talking, not a thing Olympics for it. I'd be like, wow, words, I had some of those ones. That was right, right, Burger, Oh my god.

43:20 Speaker 1: I just watched that the other day.

43:21 Speaker 3: It was on the Roku channel, and then I got stuck.

43:29 Speaker 1: Why I feel like I was influenced.

43:33 Speaker 3: And has like influenced speaking of Burry King, Barry King has a how to Train Your Dragon meal and.

43:39 Speaker 1: They have my wife fact the lemonade. What's the meal?

43:43 Speaker 3: Okay, the meal is like a flame burger and they have like spicy monsrostick, So shout out to y'all on that. But yeah, so MASI has also chronic ill.

43:56 Speaker 1: Apparently has the tailor drink. Can you even track that?

44:00 Speaker 3: Taylor?

44:01 Speaker 1: Taylor?

44:05 Speaker 3: What is it? What flavor it is?

44:09 Speaker 1: Last? Something like twisted?

44:13 Speaker 3: I need I need all the all of the soda combinations because if that's gonna keep me hopped up without the kedemine.

44:19 Speaker 2: Like, I'll try it without coffee, but I also feel like I should just drink coffee.

44:25 Speaker 3: It's okay, we all got our advice just.

44:28 Speaker 2: With like two or three or four shots, you know exactly.

44:33 Speaker 3: We didn't even tell me. What do you think about? Okay? Well, no, two things. What did you think? And where did you land on Taylor's terrible mom going to the Christmas party? Because on one hand, I'm like, that's somebody mama, so I would we personally, I'll walk away, but she wants on TV.

44:55 Speaker 2: But if you're choosing to engage with her to have a moment. You can't go too far, and you know where too far is. It's already crazy to me that you're even fighting with her mama period. It's crazy to me that you said some of the things that you said before you made her cry. You're kind of bugging when you tell that lady that she needs to go and be a mom.

45:14 Speaker 1: She currently was at home, not at the party.

45:17 Speaker 2: Her mom was there for that reason, she was not invited, and like that's why you deserve the pettiaskupt that you got of those extensions from jay Z Styles.

45:28 Speaker 1: I thought that was hilarious. That is.

45:32 Speaker 2: That she was going to do some wild things behind her mama, and you know what, you got what you got and rowed me up so much.

45:40 Speaker 1: I know Taylor did gold.

45:42 Speaker 2: In her giant sweatpants and her messy bunn and her whoever extensions with her popcorn and said ee because.

45:51 Speaker 1: Okay, do you see what kind of person she is?

45:55 Speaker 2: What do you think about the altimatum that she gave the girlies where she right gonna be her or me?

46:01 Speaker 1: Like that? She said her more than once.

46:03 Speaker 2: I think I think she just said it and thought that it was going to be like something would.

46:07 Speaker 3: Be to her every time. It's gonna be her every time. I love when she got mad that that she thought that Taylor said that there's gonna be a vote or whatever. She's like, this got to be a fucking vote, because you know you.

46:21 Speaker 1: On me, voting on me? Are you kidding? Well?

46:25 Speaker 3: We should we should, we should see, we should see what the results would be, bitch, like, be clear, I think.

46:31 Speaker 1: It would be kind of crazy. I think you'd be shocked.

46:34 Speaker 2: But I know she was shocked by how few people were voting on Taylor getting out.

46:38 Speaker 1: They were like, no, we don't understand, we don't quite.

46:40 Speaker 3: Have this is Taylor.

46:43 Speaker 2: Issues with her that you do, which is one thing that is I think they were saying, like, yes, it's Taylor shook. They even said we got all these opportunities because of her.

46:54 Speaker 1: We don't really because she kind of brought us all together.

46:57 Speaker 2: We're having a nice time being together, making a ton of money.

47:02 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm good with that, and we don't care.

47:06 Speaker 3: And it won't be you. It's not that it's not gonna be the Demmy show. Like I really liked Dimmy last season.

47:10 Speaker 1: I think that she was brand deal. She's not the one. She's just not she.

47:16 Speaker 3: I will say though she was to me at least a fan favorite because it was like, Okay, what the fuck did she do with the fruity pebbles? Okay, her husband was married to who Injie Harrington? Okay, like what is going like? There was a lot of stuff that I wanted to know more about Demmy and then I couldn't tell the difference between Demmy and Jesse. But then you know, this season I came into it. You could, I could not, I could, I could, And that's why, Uh if for you guys who watched Bonnetfest, I forgot which one of us it was.

47:48 Speaker 3: Someone was like Demmy and Jesse looked so much alike that Marciano might have thought that he, you know, made out with them both because they look so much alike. But really, truly, I think it was did me probably, But you said that something happened with Marciano. So obviously we have some continuation of the drama from vander pump Villa, which they had Layla be the messenger for which was obviously a producer stunt. So not too much from Leila. But what what did you see or what's going on? With Marciano because the last thing that I heard he was talking about victims and you know, assault and like all this stuff, and I'm like, what does that have to do with her playing truth or Dare in Italy?

48:31 Speaker 3: And also like making out at Vander Pump at Vanda Pump, sir or wherever they fuck they were, Tim, Tim.

48:46 Speaker 1: Marciano got fired.

48:48 Speaker 2: Now the receipts are open and on the way, because that's the first thing that they do once they get kicked off whatever show. You know, House potonac What was that band's name that went crazy and started chilling every day?

49:02 Speaker 1: Who t J?

49:04 Speaker 3: Tj' He didn't, Okay, so why I heard that TJ had receipts? But he never dropped them, so it doesn't matter.

49:13 Speaker 2: So allegedly there was a case of infidelity. Yes, so there's a lot of talk about what Marciano like actually did with one of the girlies, whether Demmy or Jesse. The producers made it seem like it was not that big of a deal. They're all making me a very big deal. We don't quite know why.

49:35 Speaker 1: It seems like it maybe was cut up a little bit and.

49:38 Speaker 3: The last but what was it, Like, I don't understand.

49:42 Speaker 2: I guess that's what we're talking about with maybe like a.

49:47 Speaker 1: Slight kiss on the cheek.

49:48 Speaker 2: But to be fair, if this is a community that would believe Demi when she says that that guy just put his hands on me and she just put his hands on me, when he literally just moved past her essentially and touched her elbow.

50:03 Speaker 1: It was not aggressive at all. It really was not.

50:07 Speaker 3: It wasn't aggressive at all, But that was kind of hot bread. Not gonna lie like, yeah, googy disastered, you.

50:13 Speaker 1: Would do that, And that was a little to me.

50:15 Speaker 3: It don't do it on purpose, you give it no purpose. But that's why I kind of liked it. I kind of liked it when the police had got caught because I'm like, yeah, I get those white people, but go ahead.

50:28 Speaker 2: I love that, and I love justin being like, have you ever seen our show? Because that would explain why these men are out of your shirt list making a terrible mistake that they'll regret in a couple of days.

50:38 Speaker 1: They are not drunk, They're simply.

50:40 Speaker 3: Just one kedemine and caffeine up.

50:45 Speaker 2: No, no, they don't do caffeine, oh raffeine, So they can't.

50:49 Speaker 1: Have coffee but they can have coke.

50:51 Speaker 2: I guess I don't know how that works because it's both caffeine.

50:54 Speaker 3: So it's because coffee is hot. You can't have hot caffeine.

51:00 Speaker 2: What there's no ice. They can't have ice coffee. You don't have ice with only ice coffee options.

51:09 Speaker 3: They can't have hot coffee. They can have they can have cold soda. They can't have hot tea. They can't have hot tea with caffeine. They can't have hot coffee, but they can have cold soda.

51:23 Speaker 1: But can they have cold coffee? Yes, so they can have ice coffee. Where is the.

51:30 Speaker 3: Starbucks because they do soda instead.

51:36 Speaker 1: It's that's so wild. I would still want iced coffee if I couldn't have hot coffee. I don't need hot coffee. I mean it's cold there, but I don't need it.

51:43 Speaker 2: That's so crazy, Especially if I would drink ice soda, I would drink ice coffee.

51:48 Speaker 1: It wouldn't matter.

51:49 Speaker 2: But okay, so them then the man being basically sober and still running around like trying to shake Chase down for answers on why he's hostel with the women inside. It's because he wants to hide what they did. I think he told Taylor that he was in love with her as well.

52:12 Speaker 3: Oh we know that she said all that on TikTok on ticket Talk, Yeah she did.

52:17 Speaker 1: She says a lot of things on TikTok, which is also why she gets a lot of money. We are tuned in. She spills it. And I like a messy.

52:24 Speaker 2: Girl with a messy bunch who's ready to be like, I'm a mess and I still.

52:29 Speaker 3: Deserve you know what she only and I want. And I'm sorry that you guys. I know that this is a fun conversation, but I need to always bring it up that the people that like e Kane, like Morgan Bailey, like our TikTok messy resident and black women, you know, with like the baby Daddy from the random Man from Atlanta and all that, they don't get the grace. They don't get the same brand deals. They don't get the same Why are these people on the view, Why are they on Dancing with the Stars, Why are they, you know, meeting people from Bachelor Nation when people like people that are black, or like the Love and Hip Hop people or even the Cartel Cup people when they was out, we never got those same opportunities.

53:12 Speaker 3: They just called US ghetto. While these bitches are doing works, there's actually actively swinging and going on the morning America. What the fuck is going.

53:24 Speaker 1: On than normal?

53:32 Speaker 3: Before chaos that one thing would happen, right, like, one thing would happen and then I'll try to digest it. But before I get to digest that, something else would happen. And I'm like, wait, that's why it's just like you, I need to go and like really let rewatch it because some people would be like, oh no, she said this, that, that and the other, and I'm like, what scene was that? Because I'm still on I'm still on the scene where they're on the trip and Poppy. I think that Poppy sponsored them.

54:06 Speaker 3: Poppy, if you like to sponsor me, let me know.

54:14 Speaker 2: I do what Target, and I know that they sponsor the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.

54:20 Speaker 3: So I'm good on I'm good on Target.

54:22 Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. I think Poppy is making someone very clear.

54:29 Speaker 3: I'm good on Target. I ain't know it was okay, Ollipop, Ollipop take we can take Coppy down, then we can take Copy down. Then bitch like we could just launch our own We'll get Ollipop at costco.

54:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, because like it makes sense that that's why the girlies are being sponsored by Poppy because again I suspended that no one fool while what I was walking into and I wanted to say something about, like I think these women though in the Mormon marriages, they are even though they do still subscribe to and tradwise, they consider that like their quote unquote and they're modernizing of it. The women make money, but they feel their husbands are entitled to it.

55:09 Speaker 1: And that is what the true.

55:11 Speaker 3: That's even worse and that's but that is what.

55:14 Speaker 2: The idea is because the idea used to be that you were fully dependent on him. He is the only thing is the breadwinner. And then it's like, okay, women can work. The Mormon church used to have it best talks about it and then you should you can work. But in fact they want them to be Lucra did. That's why Utah and Salt Lake City is the land of the MLMs and the pyramid schemes because the girl leans are always trying to girl boss.

55:38 Speaker 1: They're all trying to grow boss.

55:39 Speaker 2: Okay, my favorite, okay, my favorite rip to my relationship with Target and this brand you know again, a new better studio McGee.

55:50 Speaker 1: My favorite, like collection at Target.

55:53 Speaker 2: She had a show on Netflix also she moved to Salt Lake City from California to be more.

55:59 Speaker 1: And more basically with her husband, who is probably on one of those trips with Whitney's husband once a year to the.

56:12 Speaker 3: Interesting.

56:14 Speaker 1: Still on Netflix, it's called Dream Homemakeover. She's really good, but she built.

56:19 Speaker 2: This empire of a business, huge empire of a business, and her husband is apparently like the president of it, like her partner in it, but he doesn't do anything. She is literally the face, the talent, the she still does like the actual interior.

56:38 Speaker 1: She still does directly homes and he's.

56:41 Speaker 2: Like sitting on the confessionals like yeah, like we made rest pispy treats.

56:47 Speaker 1: I feel like he's stone all the time. It's crazy. And she's like sober. She's so sober. She's boring.

56:53 Speaker 3: She's doing that. Its sober, yes, not even Maybe she moved Mormon so she could do I mean she moved to Youth Sokee.

57:02 Speaker 1: She really does move.

57:03 Speaker 2: So she could be a better Mormon, like be a good woman. And she doesn't like shut. She wears her garments like all the things. She was very gin but like older, but like the fact that her husband has full access and stuff to her business and their money and it's like split and the scene is shared.

57:17 Speaker 1: I see.

57:18 Speaker 2: I do really like the idea of like making my own foods and things. It's like nice to clip through while I'm going to bed. So I do find myself dabbling and try by territory on Facebook a little bit too regularly and thanks to AI, and I don't like it there. I feel uncomfortable, don't agree with a lot of things, don't agree.

57:40 Speaker 1: With mostly.

57:43 Speaker 3: Minds off, you know different, like.

57:45 Speaker 2: The recipes for like lollipops, like I would beary lollipops. I actually would love to try like certain things like that.

57:51 Speaker 1: I like all these girls make their views are insane.

57:58 Speaker 2: They're making money on Facebook, and her husbands are like dancing in the videos, all looking like they're probably on that trip of theirs at some point in the year we ended. They are like, I'm like, no, throw you're the boss, like you did it.

58:15 Speaker 1: It's you.

58:21 Speaker 2: Actually, yes, I'd be pride month speaking of ladies that are like not aware of their power and their relationship on the highest degree, the oofs degree. Let's like wrap around, like wrap up with our thoughts on the gin Apple and uh that we thankfully don't have much to review because she stopped filming with the crew. The crew decided to stop from with her once she decided to check in for her mental health. So I want to start there actually and work our way backwards, because it feels cruel to go the other way around.

58:59 Speaker 1: That lady is trapped. She feels very trapped. I actually feel really, really really sad for her, like my.

59:07 Speaker 3: Heart pause, the fact that a pause all opinions about her character and her integrity.

59:16 Speaker 2: We will get to that when I work backwards, but at this moment, I understand why she needed to get mental health help, the fact that she is out and this Nick Vial podcasting is going viral.

59:30 Speaker 1: About that still being aful.

59:32 Speaker 2: Human being and really throwing his wife under the bus and manipulating her actions to be somehow like worse than what they are or really sinister in a way that doesn't make sense, that happening in her laughing about it, but you know, she's still in survival mode, and I really hate that for a young woman with all these kids and like fresh out of post part.

59:55 Speaker 3: I'm pregnant still when she thank you.

59:58 Speaker 1: When she found out she was pregnant, like I stobbed that.

1:00:04 Speaker 3: She stopped, but he did that on purpose, sick.

1:00:13 Speaker 2: Also just like single hand to lead the demise her relationship with those girls. I don't I understand that people think that she lied to I don't think she lied to Zach. I think that Zach is not capable of hearing the truth in a way that is not inflated or decorated or.

1:00:30 Speaker 1: You have to omit a lot. He is not a stable human being.

1:00:34 Speaker 2: I don't understand how we're not seeing that, in which case, as a twenty four year old woman at the time that she was, I'm sure she was a little hesitant to tell him, like, yeah, so he's gonna come into Chippendell's costume so he can be like, why why.

1:00:48 Speaker 1: Is he coming in that? I don't know. You need to tell them I'm not coming. Now he's not coming. He blows up.

1:00:52 Speaker 2: She's not going, she's not allowed to go boom, she's not filming. I think she's just in a state of like self present and you DEMI did not say anything else because y'all played this clip every time like it's supposed to mean something more than what it said, which was Brett's gonna come in a Chippindale's costume, and it's gonna he's gonna come and he's gonna change.

1:01:18 Speaker 1: Into a Trippingdales cost and it's gonna be like funny.

1:01:21 Speaker 2: She's getting her highlights stuck in the chair one. She's gonna be sitting in that bitch for like another two hours, maybe three. The highlights are long. You're standing over me. You're telling me that your husband is gonna come and you know, in one outfit and then come down and change into an outfit. And it's gonna be funny because the best thing for my husband and your husband and he was exposure therapy. She works Zach up for days to be okay with the idea of exposure therapy. They do add another layer to it that I don't think she was privy to un lest they tell me otherwise, and they have not come up with proof of otherwise.

1:01:58 Speaker 2: And having an r Chippendale's like remake performance with your friend's husbands rubbing up on each other in the room of a swinger allegation, what are we talking about? You know that she's gonna fucking crash out, because that is going to crash out. He's taking that home to that lady every time, and whatever her way, he is making her. So when that lady found out she was pregnant, she looked devastated and terrified, and I really felt for her in that moment. He is not an easy person to be married to, and the narcissism that he has is kind of it's kind of contagious, and that's what we're picking up on from her.

1:02:39 Speaker 3: He's scared of him blank period.

1:02:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, found a little bit scared of him because.

1:02:47 Speaker 3: At first she was doing so good, but he purposely dropped out of school. He purposely said that he was trying to change. She was. He saw that she was gaining her confidence. Fact that she saw that she get out, she was trying to get out, like the camera was about the flash. Okay, she was about to get out, but then he was like, not so fast. I'm in therapy, I'm changing, I understand, And then he purposely got her pregnant. She fucked up when she let him move into that house. But of course she was gonna let him move in because that's her husband and she's trying to work through it, and you know, they have these kids.

1:03:26 Speaker 3: And she has to like figure out like, Hey, I want to be on this show. I want to do all these things.

1:03:34 Speaker 3: She's like, I have to do all this stuff. And she wants to be a part of mom'sp because that's what she has, that's what she does, that's who she like, that's what she finds now. And she was like one of the from what I understand, she's one of the members that got added on like later. So she's trying to navigate this at the same time while also being twenty four while also like and she's also the one whose mom worked at the hospital that Zach's dad is a doctor at. So like there's such a dynamic.

1:04:08 Speaker 1: This entire stuff. She's been in that marriage. I do believe she was lied to.

1:04:11 Speaker 2: I do believe that they if they were joking with her about the Benaffle I thing. I think she was not getting on the joke. I think she is like flulabbergasted that they would pin this on her. And it is not a coincidence to me that he coins law school comes back. She's the breadwinner and now she's he's relying on her. And then at the same time, so she has that pressure because she's cheating mom. So okay, I'm going on. I support you, I'm gonna do I'm going all in, I'm gonna leave the char I'm to do all these big gestures.

1:04:42 Speaker 2: But he's also orchestrating an entire wedge between her and talking to her friends.

1:04:48 Speaker 3: We did that on purpose. That's what abusers would do. They will literally try to isolate you. And that's what you did.

1:04:57 Speaker 1: For First of all, let me again, I believe this.

1:05:00 Speaker 2: Somebody said at some point to her in the six or whatever is she's deal with this man that we're related to Benafflat. I don't think that's something that she made up. I think that is something she genuinely leave because she's young enough to believe it, and she was naive enough to believe it. And that's not her fault. It's your fault for lying to her. That's not the case. But Zach's sitting down and telling her BFS or whatever that Jen. You know, she keeps saying that, and we keep telling her to stop.

1:05:24 Speaker 2: We don't know where she came up with that. You're a terrible human. You don't have her back.

1:05:28 Speaker 3: I don't like you, But why are you doing that? Friends? Not only yes, that's such a good point. And like on top of that, it's like, why producers, this is for you, Stop showing me this man, this man's claim to hate Mom. I understand that he's the villain. We're gonna all hate him. We're gonna, you know, see that he's manipulative. Some people fell for it, and they're like they got the okie dough. They're like, oh, you know, he's really trying whatever. He's a husband, she's so terrible, Like, okay, it's some people saw it, but me personally, I'm like, this man is still terrible.

1:06:05 Speaker 3: Get him off my screen. If you hate mom talks so much, if you hate secret lize a Mormon wife so much, if you're trying to rebuild your marriage and you're serious about it, why the fuck are you on my camera?

1:06:18 Speaker 1: Just wants to say I went all in on you, and those girls all betrayed you and turn their backs on you, and I did that for you, and I was right. I told you should have chosen me over Mom. Sob and now he has control forever because she has a proof of concept.

1:06:34 Speaker 3: I just want her to pop this baby out. And I need I need this, I need something to happen to where she's like, okay, I have to go, like I don't wish more heartbreak on her, but I need something that's going to like really wake her up because she was getting She was so strong with it when they want to film and he didn't want to film, and she's like, well, okay, we're filming, like this is what it is. I was like, yeah, I clapped, I clapped. I was like, yes, stand up, but then he got her pregnant. I'm so mad, And I mean there are sometimes I'm like, Okay, you're telling them one thing, you're telling him another thing, and it's gonna clasp because you're letting them talk to each other by themselves, and you should not let them talk to if they're even gonna talk, because I don't even understand why he talked, Like I get that you want him to apologize, but you need to be there too then, because you need to be there to referee, referee, say what you said, say what you didn't say, But you are fucking up by not being there.

1:07:44 Speaker 2: She was like talking to her friends, and I think that those girls had different intentions when they sat down with theck and that fell. So what then, issue was he went there and he think demmy, I mean not demmy. He threw his wife under the bus because they seemed like they were open to that. They went in defensively to be like, hey, we feel like she told us this thing, and you're telling us this thing, so like which is it?

1:08:06 Speaker 1: And in those moments, I think you should have apologized and just had your wife's back exactly talking out figured it out. But like, listen, this is what happened. This is what we said.

1:08:16 Speaker 3: But then he also uses this his it's his language also, that's like, well.

1:08:22 Speaker 1: An individual and in the.

1:08:24 Speaker 3: Words yes, he's like, well, I have to believe. I have to choose to believe what my wife told me. If that's not the truth, then I will have to you know, deal. And I'm like what you mother effort bro, like he would mean clean and my wife.

1:08:46 Speaker 2: I supported her. I believed her, and she was the liar. She he got painted as to be the last season and he wanted to do it to his wife this season.

1:08:55 Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of wild.

1:08:57 Speaker 3: And I kind of literally worked on a lot of women. A lot of women are like, oh, this is a good man, Savannah, and I'm like, no, no, no, no, we lost the plot. It's so crazy. And you know what was the saddest part about it, the statist part about like say, say what y'all will about Mormonism. I get it, trust like you know, I'm not a Mormon, so like that, that's that whole thing is not for me. But when she said it's like she's she lost her friend group, she lost her friend group. She is, you know, working on her marriage, almost lost her marriage.

1:09:34 Speaker 3: She has her kids that she can't even like really connect to. She finds out she's pregnant, and then she's like, I'm talking to God and he's not even talking back. That broke my heart because it's like this man made you lose your religion basically like your friend group, your your connection with your kids, yourself, your like your connection, your spirituality. He's taking everything from her. That is so sad to see. It's sad to see, it's sad to see.

1:10:09 Speaker 1: The girls are not loyal to each other at all. Again.

1:10:12 Speaker 2: You saw that when Denny said that Jesse, if she needs to go, she can go if we need.

1:10:16 Speaker 3: To get to.

1:10:18 Speaker 1: Scrap and what you said about my business, because that's just hat shit.

1:10:23 Speaker 3: But the way I have yeah, no about my money. I'm not playing like, Okay, we can do the drama for the keys, we can do the drama for the cameras. But if I find out, not only are you trying to get me kick off the show, but you're also telling people not to go to my business, You're trying to make me broke, like you bitch, because apparently you must be broke because that's how you're thinking. So we're going I'm going to fight you six times? Like really, did Slim be clear?

1:10:57 Speaker 2: I wouldn't wish Jen the best? Felt back further. She even had to exit early. I'm glad she got mental health health. But again this viral podcast situation whereas Thatch accused her of not of getting pregnant, so she got pregnant. She gave birth to their baby six months later, he said she was pregnant again because she took out her ID without telling him.

1:11:29 Speaker 1: Here are my thoughts.

1:11:32 Speaker 2: Your relationship, your partnership, your marriage, your business. If it's not your body, your choice, and you need to tell your husband and he needs to in forfarm you whether or not he is cool with.

1:11:45 Speaker 1: You taking out contraception or not.

1:11:49 Speaker 2: Beyond the conversation, of just what's our backup plan then, like, is this something that you want, like having an actual conversation if it's something that you need to get approval for already, my flag is pink. Just want to just put that up there, but like that's that's one thing, and we're gonna put that aside. She was pregnant, she gave birth, six months later, she got pregnant again. Well yeah, because at what point was her iud N. I really would like someone who's a doctor, not a mom, or a person who like this happened to for whatever medical marvel reason.

1:12:26 Speaker 2: I would like a doctor or like a nurse, So like, tell us how likely it is that she would have even had her i D in the first place, and while she was pregnant with that baby, Like what doctor would be like, yeah, let's keep it in while we're delivering and all the things. I don't really understand how that would work.

1:12:44 Speaker 1: If that's why you're saying when you say like it's his words, that's what I mean, because saying something like she took her ID out without telling me, it sounds a lot like maybe, well you know, I got pregnant. How do you get pregnant? Had an idu.

1:12:57 Speaker 2: I took the i D out because I was pregnant last time, And he's like, you took it out and you didn't tell me. No, I didn't tell you because it's fucking standard. Who are you talking about, Like it doesn't make sense that you would have an IUD in. First of all, it obviously didn't work you're pregnant, But second, I'm safe physic and how necessary is it to be in your body unless it's like, I don't understand that. And it seems like he was just manded that she didn't tell him that explicit detail of what would happen because she was getting pregnant or whatever the first time in order for that to happen the first time, So him getting mad at her for getting pregnant again, it's kind of ridiculous.

1:13:35 Speaker 2: But the way he said it makes her out to be the villain. I read the comment a lot of comments, and it made her out to be this foraniculative villain, like, oh, she must just trying to protect herself, or maybe she just kept it from him because you know, she just didn't want hand to like freak out Like No, I think that it's just like normal that it would probably not be in or be taken out at some point between the first pregnancy and the one six months later. I think it might not be and at some point in which case, whether he knew that or not, because I don't th he's going to all those appointments that you can quote me on that I.

1:14:07 Speaker 3: Don't trust he's not.

1:14:08 Speaker 1: He doesn't even give a fuck.

1:14:12 Speaker 2: It's something that he had to figure out on his own and he doesn't like having to do that. But to represent that as like she deliberately went behind your back and took her idea so that you could get her pregnant and trick you into a pregnancy, that reaction was not the reaction of a woman who tricked a man into getting her pregnant.

1:14:31 Speaker 3: I don't know they are. It's just a very toxic, like like situation where I'm like Taylor, it's like between, Okay, Taylor is worried about being a single mom. So I'm seeing like, well, she's the only single person. Well, Leyla technically a single and she said that apparently her her man used her for camera time. But I'm like, we didn't really, well what did we learn about? But Okay, so I'm seeing the single moms, and then I'm seeing the ones who are married, and I'm just like, this is just hell, Like choose your poison, because I would actually and I did.

1:15:18 Speaker 2: Is so upset because she was like, if any chances of me leaving, it just died when I just had this baby, because I have to have this baby, and I have.

1:15:28 Speaker 3: To be you have to have it.

1:15:30 Speaker 2: That's why she keeps saying that she had to go get help for this baby so she can support this baby, right like, I literally at this point even have to protect my mental sanity in order to keep this pregnancy and make sure I don't stress out so much because she was devastated to have to stay with that man, and that's not a woman who wanted to stay.

1:15:48 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, though I am. I am going to say, though I'm not sure if I want to really see them on the show. The only reason that I would let them, the only the only reason that I would allow it is because I feel like her being around them and her having her own job and her having some fame and her having people to relate to is good for her, especially if she ever gets the strength to leave. But at the same time, this is a little bit. This is darker than Taylor for me personally.

1:16:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so dark that I like it doesn't make sense amongst the other drama because I.

1:16:27 Speaker 3: Feel hard exactly, it's two different shows.

1:16:30 Speaker 2: It feels hard pivoting from that and Mean like being like, Dang, I really hope y'all get that help that you need.

1:16:35 Speaker 1: But girl, I hope you also get the help you.

1:16:37 Speaker 2: Need and you get out let that man had on his own. You don't need to be around that. You're gound enough that you can you can go and you can make it. But you're also young enough that if you don't get it right now, hopefully it does take the worst for you to get it. But I do need you to wake it up a little bit at some point, you know, rise and shine real quick. But it does feel so hard to then pivot from like two different shows from that to this Marciano thing.

1:17:01 Speaker 1: This is like the last thing I want.

1:17:02 Speaker 2: To talk about is this Marciano drama from Vanda pum Villa. To show that I don't need to watch to understand what happened, and you don't need to. You can just assume that this Mean is very hungry for camera time. Marciano is someone who works at Vana pum Villa and he likes skis snowboards in to wherever Layla was.

1:17:31 Speaker 1: She's in like a.

1:17:32 Speaker 2: Summer Coachella outfit and he is wearing a snowboard outfit and coming from the slopes.

1:17:39 Speaker 1: Okay, but they are.

1:17:41 Speaker 2: Sitting down to talk about how he had did he have a situation with Demmy or not? Because Jenna's saying, Oh, you don't want me to tell the girlies and everybody else what exactly went down between you and Marciano and bandon pum Villa. She's like, absolutely nothing. He may fend that said. We see that clip over and over again. So Linda said she's gonna go get the true She's gonna go get the tea. Why does she get there? If she starts talking to him and he's like, yeah you want that sy how about this tea?

1:18:11 Speaker 2: You know who I have been fucking Let me tell you, Jesse, Yes hurt that right, Miss jay Z styles been stagnling me she has.

1:18:22 Speaker 3: That's when I was like, Okay, y'all got it. That's when I was like, yeah, y'all got it, because it was like, okay, I couldn't get gagged anymore. We're winding down, okay, Like you know, we had our drama. You know, I know that we're going to end on a cliffhanger, because naturally you want to end on a cliffhanger, but that it's not something I was expecting. And then like you know about how we said earlier on Bonnetfest we were like, oh, baby, he didn't know who which one was which because Jesse and Demmy looked just to like but then no I hear, of course, of course, of course, of course what I hear is then.

1:19:03 Speaker 6: Sina, Sina say her it's jes the girl she saw her because one thing she was like, oh no, I can tell another job between the two.

1:19:14 Speaker 1: I know the girls.

1:19:14 Speaker 3: Of course she got their dumb prints, she got these on security number. She she knows everything about everyone. I'm sure Sena Shay knows a lot about me that I don't want her to know. Sheena is the bone collected her and Chara something by them Essa's But anyways, she was Shay was hanging out.

1:19:34 Speaker 1: This is orfestrating because Dimmy wanted to orchestrate a favor with Taylor's boyfriend Slash Baby Daddy last season and discussion and this instead is something that the girl decided to do and then blame on Debbi and uh whatever that repercussion was what it.

1:19:58 Speaker 3: May well you know what, Okay, hold on pause now that you say that I heard I did hear that? Remember about like they wanted to set up a storyline last season it was a rap or whatever. But the way that this is going, do you think that that's what Jen is alluding to when she was like, I don't want to swing with you guys when she told Jesse that because remember when they had that that conversation and I'm like, why would you say that? Because she didn't eat, Like that was stupid and like that whole how about that thing about how she was she was she was raising the hood like you're shut your ass up.

1:20:35 Speaker 7: Show the fuck up, right, or someone decided to argue with you, queen about whether or not this show was ghetto, which it is if you.

1:20:50 Speaker 2: Swold them on how being ghetto or a ghetto show is not explicit to black or people of color shows at all. They don't own the right to ghetto. This has all the makings of a ghetto reality TV show.

1:21:06 Speaker 3: Everything about it. Ri Ip Kirk I cannot so much.

1:21:13 Speaker 1: There's a lot of girl I lived inlay with.

1:21:16 Speaker 3: Me, I cannot have a leave. Kirk passed away. That was crazy, But yeah, like ghetto ghetto, ghetto's hell. I felt so I felt so good about that because the bitches wanted to are you so bad? And she said it out her mouth. So anyways, but like when she went in there and she was like, oh, I want to say this, that and the other, and she just said, oh, if this is, you know, in your invitation to swing with you, I don't want to do it. I'm like, well, why would she say that. So then now that you're saying that they had a plan to uh, you know, a scheme that Todd set up.

1:21:54 Speaker 3: Basically, if they had that going on, then maybe she's alluding to the Jesse and Demy and Bell wanted to plot something and she knew about it, And that would be crazy because then she can't talk about it because that would be part of like breaking the fourth wall in a different way that they can't do.

1:22:17 Speaker 2: So beyond even breaking the fourth wall, I think that's just something that they're not interested in throwing each other under the bus. Yet they collect, they collect, they're they'll break it next season if it needs to be broken, like Gimbon will be like, uh no, I didn't.

1:22:34 Speaker 1: Start this rumor. Y'all decided to.

1:22:37 Speaker 2: Do this and blah blah blah, and I'll be just as gagged then and as if this is true, Oh, you know whether or not you know it's producer plan or not, because you know, people think Leila's depine producer plan, Marciano's thirsty. He's like it was more than a kiss because they knew what kiss wasn't gonna be enough. It was sex, he says. Sheena says they were making out. Jesse denies all of.

1:22:58 Speaker 3: It, but this is the thing, this is the thing. Someone said that they saw Jesse in the background. She was I think it was she was Instagram poster, she was snapchat or something, and Jesse and Marciano were in the background of it. And I'm like, I don't know, because if that happened, then Bravo fans don't miss nothing.

1:23:20 Speaker 1: Where's the proof watching the story? She always messy, Like people still watch that Thane Franco stories. We would find anything. I know people who watch who still are We're Bravo Hollis, we are still following all the girlis who are still fired, like who were fired, and.

1:23:39 Speaker 3: That's why they're so that's why they're also now I'm believing this whole orchestrated thing because they know that. Yes, Hulu, and you know, everything's blowing up, but at the end of the day, ain't nothing like being Bravo famous.

1:23:56 Speaker 2: So and we also need a second controversy because we're moving past the Swingers thing.

1:24:02 Speaker 1: Miranda's here, she's back, she's not even yet, but she'll try again next season.

1:24:06 Speaker 2: She'll make the cut. Whitney's back in. You know, Demmy is out. We need to keep going. And I think that because we have ten or however many more episodes to come back, like these episodes to like kind of extend the story after this rumor. Lets me know that that's how they got extra episodes from after this rumor, you know, because one thing we know about a sand of All or a scandabal rather okay, is that it's gonna extend the season.

1:24:35 Speaker 1: Honey.

1:24:36 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, it's gonna revive something that's dying. And this wasn't even close to dying exactly exactly.

1:24:43 Speaker 1: So it's never too early for a good one of those.

1:24:45 Speaker 2: And Demmy was probably onto it, but Taylor was like, oh, you just hate me.

1:24:49 Speaker 1: I don't understand why. I don't know what I did to you, but I'll take a preno grigio.

1:24:53 Speaker 3: You know exactly. Oh god, I love this show so much.

1:24:57 Speaker 2: But watch it and then let's talk about it again. I'll text you watch it.

1:25:03 Speaker 3: Hell yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah.

1:25:06 Speaker 2: Okay to piano grigio and watch the Secret Lives of Woman Wife season two. It was absolute bananas. Let us know your thoughts. Who would you want to bring back and who would.

1:25:17 Speaker 1: You not want to bring back?

1:25:18 Speaker 3: I want all of them? Oh no, okay, Macy can go. I'm sorry.

1:25:25 Speaker 1: Hilarious.

1:25:26 Speaker 2: I think she is like the epitome of a Mormon wife, and I like people who are all in on whatever.

1:25:33 Speaker 1: Like especially if it's the call. I don't know.

1:25:36 Speaker 2: I like when you are the epitome of it, like be in it, and she is like, you know, it was my sour though. That got my attention. I like that she is trying to be the peacemaker.

1:25:45 Speaker 3: She is so Cynthia, right, yeah, she's so kind.

1:25:50 Speaker 2: So she's trying to get everybody to be peacemaker amongst each other. What she's petty about a sourdough starter and it's like, I probably shouldn't even make it because it's going to.

1:25:59 Speaker 1: Be my recipe too.

1:26:01 Speaker 2: I said, oh girl, you are mad about it, and that was Loahl it wouldn't lie.

1:26:06 Speaker 1: I don't believe her either. She said it's the other way around, said, I think you misremember.

1:26:10 Speaker 3: I think not, because, bitch, you can't even keep your eyes on your child and the ICU. I don't think you can make a good bread. I mean you can make a good fucking wheat bread, bitch, like you definitely stole that shit. But you know what, she can stay there, I guess. But then I just I don't want to see jin. I'm sorry, I just don't want to see Jim needs.

1:26:30 Speaker 2: To come back, at least not this season. I think she should take some time come back when he's gone. You and Leila can go out on the town, be young.

1:26:37 Speaker 1: Single.

1:26:37 Speaker 2: There are a few single moms and mom talking now. They're like on trips and stuff. It's like Taylor, Layla, Miranda and some other girls who might be auditioning.

1:26:45 Speaker 3: We don't know, yo, we need that there's one more girl this summer.

1:26:51 Speaker 1: Single mills for the summer.

1:26:53 Speaker 3: There's one more girl. I think that that's the other girl that was involved in the swing because it was like three couples.

1:26:58 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, But they're all on a trippy trip. So we might be seeing some new faces to the show next season.

1:27:06 Speaker 1: But so good luck.

1:27:08 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see that. I would like all the ladies to come back, except for Demmy. I think she's good to go. Oh, I do I think she's I don't think she's she's. I think she's a little too reckless. I think she's she will do anything to get rid of anybody else. And she's not smart enough a producer to me, like, the seasons aren't hidding, and it's not because of her like that they are. She's not a Kyle to me, which is kind of crazy because really, in this situation, Tyler, I mean, Taylor is the Kyle, and I don't think Demmy has the right or like the foresight to see what's good enough for the show to be kind of called these shots in season two.

1:27:47 Speaker 1: I don't. I think she needs to be humbled at the very point.

1:27:50 Speaker 3: Well, that's why I want her to come back, because I want to see her humbled.

1:27:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, but like nobody's I don't know who's gonna check her.

1:27:56 Speaker 2: Taylor read her for filth, made a run out of that party at the end of the season, and that was great for me and said we don't need to see her again, and the girls pretty much agreed. They were like, I mean, listen, but the thing is, we're not going to be able to to not have to be bad because we got to figure out the thing on Marciana. Yeah, yes she will come back, but you know Jesse, but you know, Jesse will carry it with Marciano and Jesse's husband who maybe they're.

1:28:26 Speaker 3: They apparently apparently he got a he got an insured Jesse. If you want to not post it, but you can send that to me something fight.

1:28:36 Speaker 1: For L Hello, l listen, go ahead, and y'all, so I would like to see it.

1:28:43 Speaker 2: Where they can find you and where they can listen to your podcast, Black.

1:28:49 Speaker 3: Think, Well, first of all, thank you for having me. If you guys don't know, it's literally like it's literally almost midnight and we're still like ki king about my wife. Yes, I gotta let you go. I gotta let you go. I just have so much to say. But yeah, you guys definitely it's about to be Bravo Wild Blacks, so the brand itself fifth anniversary in June. We've been doing this for five years and in June, we're about to literally do it big. We're gonna do like a huge giveaway. We're gonna have all your favorite people come on.

1:29:29 Speaker 3: So that means, MANI, you're gonna be back on. Kendrick is gonna be on, Raven is gonna be on. We're gonna have Aaron on two times instead of just like one time. Probably gonna Bully Ryan back in then coming on like, we're gonna have your favorite guests. We're gonna do a giveaway. We're gonna do a giveaway in real life too, to show you that we are some generous people over here at Bravo while Black, and we're gonna be reposting some of our hits, you know, just going down memory lane and celebrating this huge milestone because this literally just started as something something for us to do during the pandemic and something for us to tell a Bravo that people of color are watching your shows.

1:30:13 Speaker 3: And also unfortunately it was something that we can we had to speak out about George Floyd, which will be five years since he was murdered in the streets. So we made this into what it is today. We speak out about what we feel is right, but we also just want to take at least we can make one person laugh once a week. We literally, you know, built this out of it and it's so great to have you, you know, as one of the black founding Bravo podcasting fathers, Like literally, thank you, thanks Raven.

1:30:54 Speaker 2: My university is probably coming up soon too. And I'm terrible with daves. Y'all need want to know how bad.

1:30:59 Speaker 3: The only the reason that I remembered is because I remember that. You know, it's been five years since the pandemic, and it's been five years since George Floyd. So our started, our page started right after George Floyd. Then we started doing podcasts right after George Floyd, and we talked about Our first episode was literally about who posted about George Floyd, who was at the marches, and who didn't, And that's kind of how we were like, you know, moving about, and that's how we kind of like got here.

1:31:27 Speaker 3: And now we expanded into pop culture. We're talking about Sex in the City, We're talking about Netflix, we're talking about HBO, We're talking about a whole bunch of different things, and I want you guys to celebrate with us. And I just want to thank you for being one of the best podcasters out there to show us how to do it. Thank you guys for listening, because without y'all, we would not be here. And I would like to thank Aaron for like being on this journey with me. Even though he's not here as often as he used to be, it's because he's working.

1:32:00 Speaker 3: He's very much still a presence in my life. That is my twin, that is my whole heart. So thank you guys for letting us be here for five years. And also happy Pride to everyone follow us at Bravo while Black, Happy Pride turn up and also please please please please subscribe to our Patreon, Patreon, dot com, slash Brava while Black if you want to support black creators, especially during our five year anniversary, because a lot of people made it and a lot of people didn't make it okay, and it's hard out here.

1:32:34 Speaker 1: I didn't make it a few times.

1:32:37 Speaker 3: Same. No, I fully almost done. But I'm talking about in the podcast world, we're still here. Like Gina, I'm not Jena. I always saw teacher Cam on Martin. I'm listen my favorite still.

1:32:55 Speaker 1: Choreography. Don't even play with me. I don't want to do it right now. It'll hurt me in the morning. Listen.

1:33:01 Speaker 2: Thank y'all so much for listening. Kay, thank you so much for coming on. I literally love kicking with you. I can do it all day.

1:33:06 Speaker 1: I might miss my wife's birthday. Who knows it happened, we hope not.

1:33:12 Speaker 3: I every birthday to Money's Life.

1:33:15 Speaker 1: I did not know I started.

1:33:17 Speaker 2: We started around the same time, which makes a lot of sense so as to why we all key key the way we do.

1:33:23 Speaker 1: Because it's been a mandy.

1:33:27 Speaker 3: Yeah.

1:33:28 Speaker 2: I'm literally looking at my Instagram account right now and it tells me the day that I joined because I know I joined it when I released my episode on what was it a time anchor and one anchor that free?

1:33:38 Speaker 3: Oh my god, such a Spotify.

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