Secret Lives of Mormon Wives S2 w/ Kaya (@bravowhileblack)

0:00 Speaker 1: Oh, hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologists out there.

0:30 Speaker 2: Girls, guys, gays, girls, squirrels, squirrels, all of all. I

0:36 Speaker 2: don't know how this is gonna go, but I do

0:39 Speaker 2: know that we have a lot to discuss with the

0:41 Speaker 2: secret lives of normal lives, and so we're going to

0:44 Speaker 2: do our absolute best to do it.

0:49 Speaker 1: Hire is here from Brapo we pay.

0:54 Speaker 2: I cannot wait to hear what her thoughts are about Whitney.

0:58 Speaker 2: She has told me at least six seven times that

1:00 Speaker 2: Whitney is absolutely gonna get this.

1:02 Speaker 1: Wrath from her.

1:04 Speaker 2: I don't quite know why actually yet, but I'm willing

1:08 Speaker 2: to find out because something about Whitney really makes me irritated.

1:12 Speaker 2: It makes me feel like the most racist, even though

1:14 Speaker 2: I know they're all of the same, you know one.

1:17 Speaker 1: Mind, Yeah, we get six. We look past that.

1:23 Speaker 2: We look past that, so that we can just discuss

1:26 Speaker 2: in Glee as just two fun black gurlies about these

1:31 Speaker 2: likely racist, very fun to watch, entertaining. We don't know

1:38 Speaker 2: what kind of friendship they have white gurlies who are

1:40 Speaker 2: Mormon from Salt Lake City, UTA.

1:43 Speaker 1: And so yeah, here is Guaya.

1:46 Speaker 2: With me so that we can figure out why we

1:48 Speaker 2: like this, but more so why y'all are not watching

1:52 Speaker 2: this season?

1:52 Speaker 1: Because it was bananas.

1:54 Speaker 3: So Kia welcome, happy to be here, like you were

1:59 Speaker 3: just on my I thought, I got hey, wait that

2:01 Speaker 3: drop today, Hey y'all if y'all listening right now, goes

2:05 Speaker 3: into my podcast, absolutely had money on and we talked

2:10 Speaker 3: about it was a Bravo bite, I will say, and

2:13 Speaker 3: it was a fun Bravo bites. And now I get

2:16 Speaker 3: to come here and talk even more of secret lives

2:19 Speaker 3: woman wives because when I talked about it with you guys,

2:22 Speaker 3: I had Hakeem on the black guy from episode two

2:26 Speaker 3: who was also on the Bachelor. He was amazing. He

2:28 Speaker 3: was amazed, like love him, Oh, hopes he finds, hopes

2:33 Speaker 3: that he finds loving paradise. Then I had a bonnet fest,

2:38 Speaker 3: Yes he will be on Bachelor Paradise he show. Yes,

2:43 Speaker 3: I want him to find love so much. And then

2:46 Speaker 3: if he doesn't girly slide in the DMS, you know,

2:49 Speaker 3: maybe I will who knows, Okay, And then we had

2:53 Speaker 3: bonnetfest with Kendrick Raven and then we got Aaron because

2:58 Speaker 3: Aaron's schedule the way we had to move mountains, like

3:03 Speaker 3: move mountain I love Aaron so much, but Aaron is

3:12 Speaker 3: the fun that is the funniest. Okay, so, but was

3:17 Speaker 3: able to get Aaron, was able to get Raven and

3:19 Speaker 3: able to get Kiddreck in the same place, and it's

3:21 Speaker 3: like wrangling, like straight cats, y'all, Like it was crazy.

3:25 Speaker 3: But some time has gone by since that. That was

3:29 Speaker 3: like right after the show came out, and now more stuff.

3:33 Speaker 3: You know, people, I've decided to, you know, settle in

3:35 Speaker 3: my feelings. Who I like, who I don't like, Who

3:38 Speaker 3: do I care? Is the villain, who's not the villain.

3:41 Speaker 3: I've had some inner actions, I've seen some things online.

3:45 Speaker 3: Let's get it started. In the words of dude from

3:49 Speaker 3: Black Eyed Peas, will I am or William?

3:54 Speaker 2: But for real, this season, I don't know what I

3:58 Speaker 2: expected because I don't remember all that happened in season one,

4:02 Speaker 2: and I think that's okay. I knew I had a

4:05 Speaker 2: great time and then I was gonna be all in

4:07 Speaker 2: because I had a lot of questions, specifically around Dakota

4:12 Speaker 2: and Taylor, because every time I looked they were on

4:16 Speaker 2: Instagram still dancing together, being together, attending things together.

4:21 Speaker 1: So like Ramamsa, Pravo and other accounts.

4:23 Speaker 2: Would just report that they're back together, and so now

4:28 Speaker 2: we know it's because they were still sleeping together. And

4:31 Speaker 2: that because a major point of contention quite a few

4:35 Speaker 2: times in this.

4:36 Speaker 1: Lady's personal life, like and I'm.

4:38 Speaker 2: Being a real personal like step dad commenting on what

4:44 Speaker 2: I thought in the worst way, in the worst way.

4:47 Speaker 2: First of all, if your cycle with this baby daddy

4:52 Speaker 2: of yours is so round and round, circular, I mean circular.

4:56 Speaker 1: Right it is.

4:58 Speaker 2: We leave on a cliffhanger last season that a lady

5:02 Speaker 2: was texting and hanging out with Dakota when he wasn't

5:06 Speaker 2: with Taylor. Sometimes he was lying to lying to Taylor

5:09 Speaker 2: and saying he was somewhere else when he was with

5:11 Speaker 2: this girl spending the ninety But we find out not

5:14 Speaker 2: in a sexual way, No, No, he values her in

5:18 Speaker 2: that way. He would literally spend all day romancing and

5:22 Speaker 2: love bombing this girl and then go home and.

5:27 Speaker 1: Sleep with his the mother of his child.

5:30 Speaker 2: And I think that's I can understand why she has

5:33 Speaker 2: a bit of an attitude problem.

5:35 Speaker 1: That's pretty bad to find out in the worst way.

5:38 Speaker 1: Where beginning of the season season two.

5:42 Speaker 2: Macy sends her down with old girl, the girl that

5:46 Speaker 2: she confirmed had this affair type thing with Dakota, whether

5:51 Speaker 2: they were together or not, apparently as irrelevant. They were

5:54 Speaker 2: having this baby together, and you were coming home and

5:57 Speaker 2: you were doing this thing.

5:58 Speaker 1: With her, but you were going out and you.

6:00 Speaker 2: Were spending all this time of weekends and money hello

6:03 Speaker 2: on this other lady and not telling me either one

6:06 Speaker 2: about the other.

6:07 Speaker 1: And that's kind of terrible. So they now.

6:09 Speaker 2: Meet up and not all minds are on the same accord.

6:12 Speaker 1: Okay, we're all on one accord.

6:14 Speaker 2: They're all in state. They all know the truth. She

6:17 Speaker 2: looked through the phones and everything. I love the access

6:19 Speaker 2: we have on the show to these ladies' phones. Always

6:22 Speaker 2: show the tax bringing, the receipts, look open the bot.

6:28 Speaker 1: She let her go through it. Who's ever heard of

6:30 Speaker 1: such a thing?

6:32 Speaker 3: I said, the duck, let's see her phone? Not, I

6:36 Speaker 3: said the duck.

6:37 Speaker 1: Yes, please, So like, let me watch it. I want

6:40 Speaker 1: to watch it again. I can't wait to rewatch this.

6:42 Speaker 3: Oh okay, so I don't even know where to start.

6:49 Speaker 3: I also like to say that, Okay, well, the suread

6:53 Speaker 3: is over. You guys, y'all have known me for almost

6:55 Speaker 3: five years coming up in June, so you guys know

6:58 Speaker 3: that I'm I try not to be violent, but it

7:01 Speaker 3: just it's envy when I say at that table with

7:05 Speaker 3: my family, if my family would have reacted the way

7:07 Speaker 3: that Taylor's family reacted and basically said what does that

7:11 Speaker 3: say about you? I would have knocked all that shit

7:14 Speaker 3: off the table. I would literally I would have gave

7:18 Speaker 3: the coat of the baby and I would have left

7:20 Speaker 3: and I would have raced my life because y'all can

7:22 Speaker 3: have that, y'all can have all of it. I'm going back.

7:25 Speaker 3: I would even consider going back to my ex husband

7:28 Speaker 3: that I cheated on. Okay, maybe it wasn't so bad

7:30 Speaker 3: over there, because this was the craziest shit I ever

7:33 Speaker 3: seen in my life. Her brother is like, give him,

7:36 Speaker 3: give him an inch so he can walk him out,

7:38 Speaker 3: Like that's exactly what he did. She gave him an inch.

7:42 Speaker 2: It's actually it's actually an insult when someone says that

7:46 Speaker 2: to you, You give them an inch, and they it

7:49 Speaker 2: means that they take advantage.

7:51 Speaker 1: They said too far.

7:53 Speaker 3: And then the dad is like. The dad is like,

7:57 Speaker 3: oh are you are you wearing a sexy costume so Halloween?

8:00 Speaker 3: And she's like it's me girls. And then the dad

8:03 Speaker 3: is just like, well, you let him have sex deal

8:07 Speaker 3: when you just met him? What does that say about you?

8:09 Speaker 3: Then goes up the stairs. But if you don't get true,

8:14 Speaker 3: her sister.

8:16 Speaker 2: Was the only person who had any kind of sense

8:18 Speaker 2: this whole season in that family. It made me feel

8:20 Speaker 2: really bad for Taylor because she seems to reinforce all

8:24 Speaker 2: of these negative thoughts about herself and this opinion about herself.

8:28 Speaker 2: As soon as her dad said that to her, she said,

8:30 Speaker 2: I know don't you think I know that? And I'm like, no,

8:32 Speaker 2: whoa hold on? That's not a response I expected. So

8:35 Speaker 2: I'm here to correct that for you. Tailor girl, incorrect you.

8:40 Speaker 2: You're not the issue in this situation with Dakota.

8:44 Speaker 4: I understand him wanting a clear and definitive answer, but

8:49 Speaker 4: I also understand you feelings so hesitated up until the brim,

8:54 Speaker 4: her religion and the way she wants to raise her children,

8:57 Speaker 4: and her self.

8:58 Speaker 2: Worth, and her feeling the way she feels about how

9:01 Speaker 2: her last relationship ended. She feels like this is somewhat

9:04 Speaker 2: of a punishment for herself, and she doesn't know if

9:06 Speaker 2: she's just stay in it or not, and that is

9:08 Speaker 2: taking up time. He is not making it easy by

9:12 Speaker 2: absolutely going to town on her every time, and it's

9:15 Speaker 2: the way he talks to her. I don't understand of men,

9:17 Speaker 2: like for straight earlyies out there. It's the way he's

9:21 Speaker 2: talking to you if you don't really know what the

9:23 Speaker 2: problem is, like you're like I can't quite put my

9:24 Speaker 2: finger on it, while we're just not clicking or understanding,

9:28 Speaker 2: like it's it's like we're talking, but like it just

9:30 Speaker 2: he seems to I don't know what to do. It's

9:32 Speaker 2: because the way he's speaking to you is probably really

9:35 Speaker 2: fucking up your nervous system. Sorry, Like the way Dakota

9:39 Speaker 2: speaks to Taylor and how he talks to her, there's

9:42 Speaker 2: ultimatum after ultimatum. It's aggressive. It's very annoying. His pupils

9:47 Speaker 2: are mac and dating.

9:49 Speaker 3: Nuts the way that they do not drink soda, but

9:53 Speaker 3: they'll take camine out like they're like they're at the

9:59 Speaker 3: wos die. Everyone keeps saying, oh, they're at that soda

10:02 Speaker 3: I mean at that Halloween party on swig on soda.

10:05 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, soda absolutely, caffeine and sugar absolutely, But

10:09 Speaker 3: also had a mean which asked Elon about that because

10:13 Speaker 3: he does not as asking out for doing too much

10:15 Speaker 3: of that. But that's another uh, y'all. But yeah, it's

10:20 Speaker 3: just insane. It's him, He's the problem. I think that

10:26 Speaker 3: it was also just finding out that I thought that

10:29 Speaker 3: I was the main chick and this girl was the

10:32 Speaker 3: side chick, and it turns out that it was the opposite.

10:35 Speaker 3: I'm the side chick, and not only was I the

10:38 Speaker 3: side check, I'm the side trick that had the baby.

10:42 Speaker 3: So now I'm connected to you for life.

10:46 Speaker 2: And you're pressing me about a marriage and a proposal

10:49 Speaker 2: the entire time you're dating this girl. That's also kind

10:52 Speaker 2: of crazy. It should be worth her being even more hesitated.

10:55 Speaker 2: If not, I would run. I don't know what you're

10:57 Speaker 2: talking about. There is not enough good whatever he's got

11:03 Speaker 2: going on in that band, okay to justify me contemplating

11:09 Speaker 2: a proposal.

11:10 Speaker 1: Still, like are you an Mary or not? Like are

11:13 Speaker 1: we to doing or not?

11:14 Speaker 3: Like a romantic it's our romantic.

11:17 Speaker 2: I'm finding out that you've been dating and courting this

11:20 Speaker 2: girl while you've been coming home.

11:21 Speaker 1: It's treating me like the.

11:22 Speaker 2: Town nightly flood at the booty call hour every single time,

11:27 Speaker 2: and I'm carrying your child, and you're like, do you

11:31 Speaker 2: want it or not? You want this where or not

11:32 Speaker 2: I want to have a baby with you. I love you, but.

11:36 Speaker 3: What way? What an insurance policy?

11:40 Speaker 2: So why don't you go ahead and step I'm good.

11:44 Speaker 2: I just keep the baby and be like it's fine.

11:46 Speaker 2: It's a rap on both of y'all. Layla's doing it

11:49 Speaker 2: at twenty three.

11:51 Speaker 3: That's bananas insane, and.

11:55 Speaker 1: I believe it's a rumor allegedly it's a she cheated.

12:00 Speaker 1: So go for you, girl. You want to do what

12:02 Speaker 1: you're going to do?

12:03 Speaker 3: Yes, right, I don't know. I support women's wrongs rights

12:07 Speaker 3: and in betweens.

12:11 Speaker 2: I love the idea of guy being on our side. Everybody, like,

12:14 Speaker 2: please understand that, so do your wrongs and.

12:16 Speaker 1: Rights for least.

12:19 Speaker 3: You know what you're trying. Like, we're in this time,

12:22 Speaker 3: especially because I'm watching a show where the men are

12:27 Speaker 3: trying to tell the women what to do and you know,

12:32 Speaker 3: how to act. And while they're saying that, you know,

12:35 Speaker 3: I have this husband where trad wives X, Y, and Z,

12:40 Speaker 3: I'm also like lost because they're also saying I'm the breadwinner,

12:45 Speaker 3: this man has dropped out of school, or this man

12:48 Speaker 3: is the now the homemaker. That's not a trad wife.

12:53 Speaker 3: You are actually in the position of power to be

12:56 Speaker 3: the man. So for me when I see that, it

12:59 Speaker 3: just this is me off because I know so many

13:02 Speaker 3: women that are in the position and that have been

13:05 Speaker 3: in the position where they actually have to stay because

13:09 Speaker 3: they actually have to be a tried wife, because they

13:11 Speaker 3: are actually stuck. And it's because they lived in this

13:15 Speaker 3: warming community and they're in this religion and they were

13:19 Speaker 3: brought up a certain way. I understand that, but at

13:22 Speaker 3: the same time, it's weird with them because if you

13:25 Speaker 3: were brought up a certain way and you're in this

13:28 Speaker 3: religion and you truly believe that and you truly obey

13:31 Speaker 3: your husband, and you can't go skinny dipping, you can't

13:34 Speaker 3: go to Chippingdales, you can't. But you can be on TikTok,

13:38 Speaker 3: you can be on a reality show. You can travel

13:42 Speaker 3: the world, you go on Van and pump Villa. No,

13:44 Speaker 3: there's two different things along at once, and something cleaning

13:48 Speaker 3: the milk. So it's like I don't feel bad for

13:51 Speaker 3: like I can only feel bad for so long. And

13:54 Speaker 3: when it comes to Taylor Frinky Paul, I think that

13:57 Speaker 3: she just has so much like trauma that she's like, Okay,

14:01 Speaker 3: I had these kids probably never came out of that

14:03 Speaker 3: postpartum depression, because it takes you years to come out

14:06 Speaker 3: of that. But then during that you also had a

14:09 Speaker 3: whole swinging thing. You went online, you bow up your life,

14:12 Speaker 3: You got called every dame in the motherfucking book. But

14:15 Speaker 3: then the show gets picked up and you don't know

14:18 Speaker 3: how it was going to be received. It was received

14:21 Speaker 3: very well but also received poorly by your community. So

14:27 Speaker 3: even though you've already like went through that being shun,

14:29 Speaker 3: you're getting shun in a public kind of way. Probably

14:32 Speaker 3: you know, members from the actual church are coming out

14:34 Speaker 3: against you. Then you got this dude who you also

14:39 Speaker 3: have to add that layer of him being an addict

14:42 Speaker 3: and you don't want to trigger him to use again,

14:46 Speaker 3: so he doesn't just have that whole religion baby, big

14:50 Speaker 3: daddy things more than triggered.

15:00 Speaker 2: The pupils and triggered him into one into uh what

15:04 Speaker 2: you say, it triggered him into it.

15:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, you might want to check attle light.

15:10 Speaker 3: More than triggered.

15:16 Speaker 1: Hair teas.

15:20 Speaker 3: And I noticed it. Both the Cord Dakota and Whitney's

15:25 Speaker 3: gay husband got their hair done, they got their their hairline,

15:30 Speaker 3: They transplants. They didn't go to Turkey. They got transplants,

15:33 Speaker 3: though you got male transplants. So I wonder if when

15:37 Speaker 3: you get your hair transplanted and they don't pull one

15:39 Speaker 3: of your hairs, does it test clean? That's a mean,

15:50 Speaker 3: can someone let us know because I know that if

15:53 Speaker 3: you were a willing obviously you can test clean. But

15:56 Speaker 3: if you're a man and you got a hair transplant,

15:59 Speaker 3: how does it drig plus come out?

16:03 Speaker 1: I guess does it start to grow out of your hair?

16:06 Speaker 2: Like is it fonding to actual hair and then growing

16:09 Speaker 2: out because it does become your actual hair that's coming

16:13 Speaker 2: out of your scalp, then that would definitely let us

16:15 Speaker 2: now steal some things.

16:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I feel like they would have to

16:20 Speaker 3: root you.

16:20 Speaker 2: Know what I mean, like at the root of it.

16:22 Speaker 2: If it's like you know what I mean, look at

16:24 Speaker 2: it takes some time. I don't know if you get

16:26 Speaker 2: a hair transplant, if your hair starts to actually grow

16:28 Speaker 2: at any point, like do they check it text to sea,

16:31 Speaker 2: then it's like doing okay, Like is the hair follicles

16:34 Speaker 2: like growing and all? Is it at the root though,

16:37 Speaker 2: at the root that's gonna be who you are? Or

16:39 Speaker 2: is it a lace front okay?

16:41 Speaker 5: Or is it is that a cheap option at.

16:45 Speaker 1: The Ali Express. Glue it on every day naked, the

16:52 Speaker 1: go naked option.

16:54 Speaker 3: Shout, Oh my god, go naked. Well okay, no, we

16:58 Speaker 3: can't do the naked because remember we got to talk

17:01 Speaker 3: about Jesse and her I mean not her, would you yes?

17:10 Speaker 2: Oh wow, my wife just let me know the Pacers

17:12 Speaker 2: are going to the finals.

17:14 Speaker 1: That's fantastic.

17:15 Speaker 3: Shout out to Pacer who's I love football.

17:21 Speaker 1: Shout out to y'all they go to the super Bowl.

17:26 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Well, anyways, what were you saying?

17:34 Speaker 3: I was just talking about Jesse and her hair someone

17:37 Speaker 3: and I wonder.

17:39 Speaker 6: Would you go to I like either hair extensions or color?

17:48 Speaker 2: Said that she might be good at color, but I

17:53 Speaker 2: think she might not.

17:54 Speaker 1: I don't think hair extensions are her thing.

17:57 Speaker 3: I like Jesse.

17:59 Speaker 2: Is, yeah, she said, I don't. She's greater extensions, And

18:03 Speaker 2: I just don't think color.

18:04 Speaker 1: Is like her thing.

18:06 Speaker 3: People extension because they'll see Layla hair, no shade.

18:09 Speaker 2: Okay, but is that oh yes, okay? How much of

18:13 Speaker 2: that is maintenance?

18:15 Speaker 1: Right?

18:15 Speaker 2: How much of that is I'm just asking, you know,

18:18 Speaker 2: just questions how much of that is We didn't even

18:22 Speaker 2: run a brush through the back because she was in

18:24 Speaker 2: the little van produce a wagon for far too long

18:27 Speaker 2: and pressed up against it and it's separated that we couldn't.

18:30 Speaker 1: Just you know, brush a little lever.

18:32 Speaker 3: Like we do. Our need to know why is Layla

18:37 Speaker 3: still using no offense like shout out to Jesse because

18:40 Speaker 3: that was you know, that was her girl, that was

18:42 Speaker 3: her friend. But at this point you are on season two,

18:45 Speaker 3: you are you know, making money fly out say fly out, Jonathan,

18:51 Speaker 3: fly out one of the like the girls to do

18:53 Speaker 3: your hair like we're not We're not doing Jesse jay

18:58 Speaker 3: z styles anymore. As a black woman, I mean as

19:01 Speaker 3: a white woman, I feel like, absolutely if I was

19:04 Speaker 3: a white woman that.

19:05 Speaker 1: Would do you know that she wasn't she know? But

19:09 Speaker 1: she doesn't know that, you know?

19:11 Speaker 3: Okay? To be fair, I would like to say that

19:14 Speaker 3: who I would like to say that this is what

19:18 Speaker 3: I heard from the grape vine and people telling me.

19:21 Speaker 3: And then also Chase himself, Chase who is the diva,

19:26 Speaker 3: the star, the one that I feel like I related

19:29 Speaker 3: to the most, especially at the Halloween party when he

19:32 Speaker 3: was like, don't talk about my fucking podcast. It's good,

19:35 Speaker 3: same good, same diva down like do like that was

19:41 Speaker 3: and then I posted about it and he was like insensitive,

19:44 Speaker 3: you know. He commented on my posts and it was

19:46 Speaker 3: so funny. But he is not a Trump supporter, So

19:52 Speaker 3: that was like shocking to me. Sorry for that because

19:55 Speaker 3: I definitely thought that he was. And apparently Miranda is not,

19:59 Speaker 3: and then Layla is not. So those are the three

20:01 Speaker 3: that are not MAGA. As far as if the rest

20:06 Speaker 3: are MAGA, I don't know if that's a yes or no.

20:08 Speaker 3: I just know who's not and Leila.

20:13 Speaker 1: System that understand.

20:15 Speaker 2: I approached watching this show with the understanding that all

20:19 Speaker 2: of them.

20:19 Speaker 3: I thought that, Yeah, that's why I'm shocked.

20:21 Speaker 2: That's where I was like, Okay, I'm watching in spite

20:27 Speaker 2: the first time the first time I heard the theme

20:30 Speaker 2: song or so, I like the I think eating for

20:33 Speaker 2: Southern Charm back in the day, like Charleston. I thought, oh,

20:40 Speaker 2: this is going to be uncomfortable, but I think I have.

20:42 Speaker 1: To still watch it.

20:46 Speaker 3: Charm a little bit late, but I just season that

20:49 Speaker 3: was in it.

20:49 Speaker 2: And I it was it was hard, but I remember

20:53 Speaker 2: I remember the scenes before they got cut and then

20:56 Speaker 2: we looked back.

20:57 Speaker 3: Again and thought that was easy watching that though. I'm

21:01 Speaker 3: like she was like, yeah, so this is where we

21:03 Speaker 3: keep the dead slaves. And then I'm also, I'm also,

21:08 Speaker 3: I'm twenty one years old and I'm pregnant and you're

21:10 Speaker 3: sixty sixty and I'm like, wait, that was a lot

21:13 Speaker 3: of information.

21:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then once Savannah and then rolled around, I said, oh,

21:17 Speaker 2: I understand, like I love New Orleans, but Savannah was

21:20 Speaker 2: so dark that I.

21:23 Speaker 3: Still watched Savannah, and then I did it one day.

21:27 Speaker 1: It's chronically all yeah, I said, for her life, but

21:30 Speaker 1: it's always on an on demand binge day.

21:33 Speaker 3: Always bring back Nolans, bring back Nolans.

21:39 Speaker 1: Tell it's bad honestly.

21:42 Speaker 2: Okay, so but that honestly even that to say, I

21:46 Speaker 2: watched the first season of Secret Lives of Normal Wives

21:49 Speaker 2: with the full understanding. First of all, who mom top was.

21:52 Speaker 2: I watched the whole deep dive. I loved watching the

21:55 Speaker 2: drama on the internet.

21:56 Speaker 3: I know nothing about it. I came into it.

22:00 Speaker 1: It was amazing.

22:01 Speaker 2: People really ended up hating it became wild. People really

22:06 Speaker 2: expected a lot of success for Taylor because people were

22:09 Speaker 2: really siding with her. This whole thing became a scandal,

22:12 Speaker 2: and everybody reacted in her community in this one way.

22:15 Speaker 1: But the world reacted in a different way.

22:17 Speaker 2: A lot of people ended up rallying behind Taylor Franky

22:20 Speaker 2: Paul because they were like, we don't care.

22:23 Speaker 1: In fact, this was kind of lit.

22:25 Speaker 3: I want to know more, but I can. I also

22:28 Speaker 3: respect it because she was listen and that's the thing, hang.

22:33 Speaker 1: Me out to dry. We were all, first of all,

22:35 Speaker 1: I can't swing solo.

22:36 Speaker 3: Hello, that's what it's called hello. And then for Miranda

22:41 Speaker 3: to bring her ass on there and say, oh, I

22:44 Speaker 3: wasn't doing this, that and the other. I only kissed

22:46 Speaker 3: the girl. And then Taylor was like, we were sucking,

22:49 Speaker 3: We was turning, and we was twisting. We was doing that.

22:53 Speaker 3: I'm like, wait, hold on the.

22:54 Speaker 2: Whole list of all the things that they did. Some

22:58 Speaker 2: of my favorites to remember were that they I just

23:03 Speaker 2: couldn't get them on of my mind. I don't know why, No,

23:05 Speaker 2: we need to invest in that. You know that they

23:10 Speaker 2: had sex both times, multiple times in the shower with

23:13 Speaker 2: each other, with their husbands and in the same bed

23:17 Speaker 2: something the same bed, okay, big ben.

23:20 Speaker 1: Or just little people, I don't know, but.

23:25 Speaker 3: For you, okay, I love it. She was like, oh,

23:33 Speaker 3: we would make old each other and guess who's who

23:37 Speaker 3: who the partner was.

23:38 Speaker 1: I guess.

23:38 Speaker 3: I think that was one thing. They would kiss each

23:41 Speaker 3: other blindfolded and then guess who they were kissing, So

23:45 Speaker 3: I guess, I'm like, okay, so that saw swinging, so

23:48 Speaker 3: I guess they were technically penetrating each other.

23:53 Speaker 2: The husbands there were four husbands and two girls, just

23:57 Speaker 2: two of them, and they were wearing yes, her and Miranda,

24:01 Speaker 2: and they were wearing shorts, and the husbands thought that

24:06 Speaker 2: they should go upstairs and change into shorter shorts. So

24:09 Speaker 2: they did went up changing shorter shorts and like gave

24:12 Speaker 2: either black dancers or dances or something like that. And

24:16 Speaker 2: that was one of the last things that she said.

24:17 Speaker 2: And Mirenda goes, I mean, it was not wrong lying

24:24 Speaker 2: about what.

24:25 Speaker 1: Happened about any of that, just because she was like

24:31 Speaker 1: that that you kissed one time a girl?

24:32 Speaker 3: That thing, No, because she was insistent upon what could

24:36 Speaker 3: I ever do?

24:37 Speaker 1: Would spend the bottle apparently not?

24:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, she spun more than a bottle? Was yeah, exactly. No.

24:45 Speaker 1: She was literally like.

24:48 Speaker 3: She was like, well, I guess am, I am I swear.

24:52 Speaker 3: I'm like, let me answer it for you, baby, Yes, yes, yes, we're.

24:56 Speaker 1: Having a nice time in the world. Endeed of not caring.

24:59 Speaker 2: So when Taylor was like, y'all are not gonna hate

25:01 Speaker 2: me out to dry and act like this is my

25:03 Speaker 2: fault and everything is like I'm this feeling this bad

25:05 Speaker 2: person in the community. Her friends all dropped her. She

25:09 Speaker 2: had to find new friends and find a whole new group,

25:12 Speaker 2: you know, in order to make this thing happen. That's

25:14 Speaker 2: where you got your Demi Layla Jesse, Like, that's kind

25:17 Speaker 2: of why it is wild that Demi is like kind

25:19 Speaker 2: of throwing her on the bus this way and trying

25:22 Speaker 2: to like get rid of her in this way, because

25:26 Speaker 2: she kind of put that together and they did still

25:29 Speaker 2: really well and did well in that first season. She

25:31 Speaker 2: did not know how that first season was gonna go

25:33 Speaker 2: because she had to put that group together. That was

25:35 Speaker 2: not her original mom talk group that she made, but

25:37 Speaker 2: this is the one she got the deal. She had

25:39 Speaker 2: to put it together and it went really well. Demmy,

25:43 Speaker 2: You're not a fan favorite. The fan favorite was still

25:45 Speaker 2: Tailor because it was still like it's technically like a

25:47 Speaker 2: built around her being accountable and trying to rebuild her

25:51 Speaker 2: life even though she doesn't feel like she deserves to.

25:54 Speaker 2: And we really felt like and saw a lot of

25:56 Speaker 2: that this season. We just didn't hate you. Thought we

26:00 Speaker 2: got to see you the most and you had the

26:02 Speaker 2: best personality.

26:05 Speaker 1: Last first season. I looked back at my notes from season.

26:08 Speaker 2: One and I was like, Oh, it was just that

26:10 Speaker 2: she talked and that was all we needed the first

26:13 Speaker 2: time because the only other person that did talk was

26:16 Speaker 2: Whitney or Taylor.

26:18 Speaker 1: So that was all we needed.

26:20 Speaker 2: And Taylor Whitney had a lot to say because that

26:23 Speaker 2: lady had a lot of redemption that she needed to

26:25 Speaker 2: do that first season with the whole Oh boy, where

26:29 Speaker 2: to start the RSV to talk the bachelors situations? While

26:35 Speaker 2: you texted me something about that husband of hers and

26:39 Speaker 2: you said something you might think of him allegriedly, and

26:43 Speaker 2: I think many people might agree with you. Something that

26:47 Speaker 2: that's factuful situation reminded me of and her husband is.

26:53 Speaker 1: Okay.

26:54 Speaker 3: What I like about him this season is that he's

26:58 Speaker 3: now in on the joke. He knows that we know

27:02 Speaker 3: mm hmm like. And that's why when they did that

27:05 Speaker 3: Mormon bake off, when he did when we did that

27:10 Speaker 3: Mormon bake off and then one of them put like

27:13 Speaker 3: little penises, I think it was didn't put little penises.

27:15 Speaker 1: In there and.

27:18 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no, because Layla's was ship she

27:20 Speaker 3: could be making. And then he's like, I don't really mind.

27:27 Speaker 1: I go ahead, and he was.

27:29 Speaker 3: Like I don't really mind the penises, and I was like,

27:32 Speaker 3: too easy.

27:33 Speaker 2: I know, right, he must know because that purpose everybody

27:42 Speaker 2: in the room that I was watching not watching with,

27:45 Speaker 2: you know, they think they say they're not watching, but

27:47 Speaker 2: they're watching while I'm watching. They were all like, one,

27:54 Speaker 2: we all heard that, right, And I'm like, no, we did.

27:57 Speaker 1: He did too. I think he's I think he knows.

27:59 Speaker 3: I think but and then like we didn't get into

28:03 Speaker 3: and this is what I'm hoping that the second half

28:06 Speaker 3: or the third season, especially now that Okay, let me

28:09 Speaker 3: just get her, let me let me break you down

28:12 Speaker 3: with me.

28:13 Speaker 1: Second half and not a third.

28:15 Speaker 3: Season RSV mom. I don't expect much from RSV mom.

28:21 Speaker 3: I would never expect something from someone who could not

28:25 Speaker 3: just like, Okay, I get making a TikTok. I mean

28:28 Speaker 3: maybe I don't even I don't necessarily get that, but

28:30 Speaker 3: I'm saying I can separate making a TikTok when your

28:35 Speaker 3: child is in the ICU for RSV, but I cannot

28:41 Speaker 3: separate you making a TikTok dance explaining why your child

28:47 Speaker 3: is in the hospital, and I see you a baby

28:50 Speaker 3: by the way in the background in the back, and

28:58 Speaker 3: you are because I and I can say this because

29:01 Speaker 3: I was I've been in ICU even as an adult,

29:04 Speaker 3: and my mama would not even take a photo okay

29:08 Speaker 3: the only time, Like it was crazy. My mama literally

29:13 Speaker 3: just be ready as soon as a nurse come in

29:16 Speaker 3: the room. Can we get some more juice please? Like, no,

29:19 Speaker 3: there's no time for dancing. There's no time for about

29:22 Speaker 3: an hour and a half can happen, you know, right,

29:29 Speaker 3: Like my daughter is in pain and she reading okay, okay,

29:33 Speaker 3: So I don't expect much from a person who can

29:35 Speaker 3: do that. However, if you are now on a Hulu

29:40 Speaker 3: show and you now have a different audience, because when

29:44 Speaker 3: you were on TikTok, then that's your community, that's who

29:47 Speaker 3: you are, you know, those are the people that follow you.

29:50 Speaker 3: That's your ministry. But now that you are on a

29:53 Speaker 3: streaming service and you're with these other people and you

29:57 Speaker 3: are in you are now a public figure. I could understand.

30:01 Speaker 3: If she doesn't understand. So what happened was is she

30:04 Speaker 3: posted a TikTok about how she is dressed up as

30:08 Speaker 3: a European mammy, and I'm like, mammy, Okay, let's just

30:16 Speaker 3: say she didn't know the implications, didn't know what that means.

30:20 Speaker 3: A lot of people in the comments are saying, well,

30:22 Speaker 3: in Ireland, well I've never heard well that when I

30:25 Speaker 3: was a boy, like all this shit everyone. A lot

30:28 Speaker 3: of these people that are you, you know, you know

30:31 Speaker 3: those kind of people are like, why are we offended?

30:33 Speaker 3: Why are we offended? Okay, It's like, it's okay to

30:37 Speaker 3: claim ignorance, or not even claim ignorance. It's okay to

30:41 Speaker 3: be ignorant. But once you have the person who originated

30:46 Speaker 3: the trending like thing that you have going on reach

30:51 Speaker 3: out to you publicly and say hey, I started this

30:54 Speaker 3: trend and you are doing X, Y and z, and

30:57 Speaker 3: then you have a bunch of people in the comments

30:59 Speaker 3: telling you this is offensive. You have a duty to

31:04 Speaker 3: do something, whether that is an apology or whether it's

31:08 Speaker 3: just taking it down, whether it is you know, whatever

31:12 Speaker 3: it is. So that's why when they drag her when

31:18 Speaker 3: she ultimately I hope someone really really like gets into

31:22 Speaker 3: what happened. Why did they have to move in the

31:24 Speaker 3: first place, and what happened with that tender thing? Was

31:28 Speaker 3: he on tender or was he on grinder? Why did

31:31 Speaker 3: you Why will he on a dating app if he's

31:34 Speaker 3: already married? Yeah? Yes there is? So what was that about?

31:44 Speaker 3: So much so that not only did you you know,

31:48 Speaker 3: have this strife in your marriage, but you guys left

31:52 Speaker 3: and then came back. What happened there?

31:56 Speaker 1: At first?

31:56 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, you know season two.

32:00 Speaker 1: What happened for real? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, And Whitney was like, Oh,

32:03 Speaker 1: you're not gonna do this without me.

32:05 Speaker 3: I'll be then, I don't care, And I thought they

32:08 Speaker 3: were there, And.

32:09 Speaker 2: She came back very entitled season one and became the villain,

32:13 Speaker 2: and most people ended up hating her because they thought

32:16 Speaker 2: that she was so entitled and rude to Taylor when

32:19 Speaker 2: we were like, you're no, Like she was so mad

32:22 Speaker 2: that people gave Taylor grace for being a quote unquote

32:24 Speaker 2: like swinger slash s what and she didn't get grace

32:28 Speaker 2: for dancing around her childho.

32:30 Speaker 1: Can't breathe.

32:32 Speaker 3: On the brink of death. You're ontep and for what for?

32:37 Speaker 1: Views? For what purpose? And awareness?

32:43 Speaker 2: We're not saying, but we're not doing anything with that

32:45 Speaker 2: it's not a thing. You're not even going live from

32:47 Speaker 2: the baby be like, hey guys, here's an update.

32:49 Speaker 1: You're just dancing. Next thing is I se stupid? It's bananas,

32:55 Speaker 1: And then we're allowed to have an attitude about that.

32:58 Speaker 1: That's disrespectful.

33:00 Speaker 3: I had the nerve to also talk about how the

33:04 Speaker 3: public tore her up. She went through so much, she

33:08 Speaker 3: had to deal with a lot. She did, had so

33:10 Speaker 3: much backlash. Bitch, I don't care good good And the

33:16 Speaker 3: crazy thing is I liked her this season because she

33:20 Speaker 3: came in begging, crying, pleading on her knees, and Taylor

33:25 Speaker 3: is more of a gracious queen because me personally, I

33:28 Speaker 3: would have been like, bitch, you could go it's.

33:31 Speaker 2: Not so smart as hell. Whitney was good and funny

33:33 Speaker 2: this season.

33:34 Speaker 1: I ain't go hold you like.

33:35 Speaker 5: She was funnier.

33:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, laughing at herself a little bit before, and she

33:39 Speaker 2: knew we would be.

33:40 Speaker 1: Laughing at her, so she didn't have a choice. Was

33:42 Speaker 1: she faking it?

33:43 Speaker 2: I would say the time there were moments that I

33:46 Speaker 2: were watching that I was like, she's so calculated.

33:49 Speaker 1: I kind of want to know where her, like I

33:52 Speaker 1: kid would be.

33:52 Speaker 2: I don't think she's like that smart her chance, but

33:56 Speaker 2: I'm just I wonder how her brain works sometimes because

33:59 Speaker 2: I not.

34:00 Speaker 1: She would do things.

34:01 Speaker 2: Every time the camera was on someone who was speaking

34:06 Speaker 2: and she was and knew she was sitting next to them,

34:10 Speaker 2: and she knew that they were saying something that was

34:12 Speaker 2: gonna get filmed, she would do something they would explicitly

34:16 Speaker 2: put her in the shot, whether it was touch someone's

34:18 Speaker 2: back or throw feel someone's hair, or move anything from someone,

34:23 Speaker 2: or do something at the table or nod and hold

34:26 Speaker 2: someone's baby and just say like, hey, let's be the

34:28 Speaker 2: one that every single time, it was like every time

34:33 Speaker 2: I could not see it, so I was just like

34:36 Speaker 2: this real smart, She's like, I'm not going anywhere.

34:40 Speaker 3: But not only that, she was like, Okay, I'm listening.

34:44 Speaker 3: I'm gonna make it.

34:46 Speaker 1: She kind of clocked in. She was really funny to me.

34:49 Speaker 3: And she was also like, I'm going to make friends

34:52 Speaker 3: with be outcasts as my new.

34:57 Speaker 2: One's girly because Michayla and Macy say bye bye yeah.

35:01 Speaker 3: And people were really mad, Like a lot of people

35:03 Speaker 3: were like because they think that Mikayla needs to understand

35:08 Speaker 3: that on a reality show, you have to let things

35:10 Speaker 3: roll off in order for the group to be good.

35:14 Speaker 1: But for me, where when?

35:16 Speaker 2: How when did we ever like anything roll off on

35:18 Speaker 2: a reality show?

35:19 Speaker 1: Ever? How long have we been talking about sprinkle cookies?

35:22 Speaker 3: What that's my thing?

35:25 Speaker 2: Mikayla did great TV being mad at this bitch Hall year.

35:29 Speaker 2: It was hilarious.

35:30 Speaker 3: I'm like, everyone can't, everyone can't fucking forgive her. I'm sorry,

35:34 Speaker 3: Like Taylor, that was shocking, but Taylor knows good TV.

35:38 Speaker 3: And also Taylor was.

35:40 Speaker 1: She would work with her. She's like, we can be Cordel,

35:42 Speaker 1: I don't care whatever.

35:43 Speaker 3: Just but it wasn't even just to forgive her. It

35:46 Speaker 3: wasn't even just that. It was like Taylor No, Like

35:49 Speaker 3: Taylor was stressed out, she got this man stressing her out,

35:52 Speaker 3: she got a new baby, she got her family that

35:54 Speaker 3: hates her. Like, okay, fuck Whitney. Like Whitney is like

35:56 Speaker 3: the least of her problem. So sure, sure, she's good TV.

36:00 Speaker 1: She wants it that bad, It's fine.

36:01 Speaker 2: She's also already asked for three live votes practically good

36:06 Speaker 2: for it, and got the not the first one.

36:07 Speaker 1: I was crazy.

36:09 Speaker 2: I was like, oh baby, you really risk it for

36:11 Speaker 2: the visit and the fact that she asked.

36:13 Speaker 1: For it again.

36:14 Speaker 2: Is I got a respect her. I'm not gonna lie.

36:17 Speaker 2: I don't like her at all. In fact, I don't

36:19 Speaker 2: really think I do respect her, But in that moment,

36:22 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's great.

36:26 Speaker 5: No, she was entertained, like she she kind of ate,

36:29 Speaker 5: but you know than she was season one. Just putting

36:34 Speaker 5: that peace stick in the cake was about domb it

36:35 Speaker 5: for me. I was going that was and then they say, oh,

36:41 Speaker 5: you shouldn't got everyone's house.

36:43 Speaker 3: She didn't even do that at her house.

36:44 Speaker 1: Like, you know, I like her husband a little bit

36:46 Speaker 1: more than I thought.

36:47 Speaker 3: I would, because he's leaning into it and like he's

36:52 Speaker 3: he he knows that.

36:54 Speaker 2: We know Taylor a lot of grace at that Halloween

36:56 Speaker 2: party and he was like, hey.

36:58 Speaker 3: Because he sees things outside.

37:00 Speaker 2: Is like, listen, I understand a scandal where the girls

37:05 Speaker 2: won't stop talking, especially about what you do in your

37:09 Speaker 2: bedroom time, but like you gotta like let yourself like

37:13 Speaker 2: move on and move past it, especially if you're trying.

37:16 Speaker 2: Like I understand though, that it gets longer, gets hard,

37:19 Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, she is struggling. I really felt

37:21 Speaker 2: bad for Taylor because you see, she doesn't have a

37:23 Speaker 2: lot of support, like for herself outside of mom talk,

37:28 Speaker 2: and that is very fragile and not very real because

37:32 Speaker 2: we don't know how deep their support is.

37:36 Speaker 1: But it feels like when you would.

37:38 Speaker 2: Have a one of those challenges in science class or

37:43 Speaker 2: like physics to make a structure that would hold, like

37:47 Speaker 2: an egg or whatever, you would use different materials to

37:51 Speaker 2: do it. It feels like we're trying out different things

37:54 Speaker 2: the whole mom talk together. Because if y'all are having

37:58 Speaker 2: votes this many times.

37:59 Speaker 1: And this.

38:01 Speaker 3: No, oh my god, we have a problem.

38:05 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can work together, you're gonna

38:08 Speaker 1: have a stone cold issue every time y'all have had

38:10 Speaker 1: like three full votes about who was going to be

38:13 Speaker 1: there and you have thought about them.

38:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, And then not only that, it's like if she

38:20 Speaker 3: were to go and try to make new friends, are

38:23 Speaker 3: you my friend because you're actually my friend? Or are

38:25 Speaker 3: you my friend because I'm Taylor friending Paul? Like the

38:29 Speaker 3: way TikTok gives out bags, the sponsorships all that shit.

38:34 Speaker 3: It's like, mom talking is not the quote unquote sisterhood,

38:39 Speaker 3: which is like me and my last brain cell. It's

38:44 Speaker 3: not the sisterhood. The sisterhood that that part really killed me,

38:49 Speaker 3: that they're making it to be.

38:51 Speaker 2: Like we're willing to dance together to make enough money.

38:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like that is why I like, I like

39:00 Speaker 3: did me and I liked that she was in her

39:02 Speaker 3: villain era, but I do not respect that she tried

39:06 Speaker 3: to get Jesse kicked out of Mom Talk just because

39:09 Speaker 3: Jesse is already a millionaire. Okay, cool, But then on

39:12 Speaker 3: top of that, not only do you want her out

39:14 Speaker 3: of mom Talk, right, but not just that, like that's

39:19 Speaker 3: the number one thing loyalty, but okay, fuck the loyalty. Okay,

39:23 Speaker 3: so you're pocket watching. Number one, you pocket watching, Then

39:27 Speaker 3: number two, you got the nerve.

39:29 Speaker 1: Too, to be honest, you my finances.

39:32 Speaker 3: On top of that, you got the nerve to then

39:36 Speaker 3: break down my motherfucking business so you don't want me

39:39 Speaker 3: on mom Talk or see your Lasmo own lives. And

39:43 Speaker 3: then on top of that, you don't want people to

39:44 Speaker 3: come into my salon? Are you serious?

39:48 Speaker 1: SamArt?

39:50 Speaker 2: A whole conversation about how bad like my salon might

39:54 Speaker 2: be based on how my best friend set it up.

39:56 Speaker 3: To look and try to get me off the show

40:00 Speaker 3: while also trying.

40:01 Speaker 1: To get me off the show. So you wanted both

40:02 Speaker 1: businesses to fail.

40:03 Speaker 2: You hate me just say that, and the fact that

40:07 Speaker 2: Jesse's like I just and gets a lot to process.

40:09 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm glad she understood it, but I was like, oh,

40:11 Speaker 2: it's a rap for me, but I'm gonna.

40:12 Speaker 3: Tell her different Earth's signs. Do not do that, because I'm.

40:23 Speaker 1: Not an idiot. That's like just being a realist.

40:27 Speaker 2: You doing one thing to affect my business, speak negatively

40:32 Speaker 2: to one of our friends and a very influential member

40:35 Speaker 2: in our group, and you.

40:36 Speaker 1: Know that, and you know that we're all here because

40:39 Speaker 1: of Taylor.

40:40 Speaker 2: That doesn't not yet acknowledged by these ladies, So it's

40:43 Speaker 2: okay to say that.

40:44 Speaker 1: You know that you're gonna tell her not to come

40:47 Speaker 1: to me.

40:48 Speaker 2: So that she can do tiktoks and stuff from my

40:50 Speaker 2: salon like the other girls do with her big following.

40:54 Speaker 2: I'm trying to go somewhere else because she's well, I

40:56 Speaker 2: didn't say that.

40:57 Speaker 1: You're trying to start drama. See she's terrible, she's awful.

41:02 Speaker 3: Terrible, doesn't do that.

41:04 Speaker 1: I don't think they go for her for color, but

41:07 Speaker 1: she's really good at extensions.

41:08 Speaker 2: Whichever the lie was, you said something shady, and Taylor

41:14 Speaker 2: called you out on it, and That's why I like her.

41:16 Speaker 2: And then I also like it at the Christmas party

41:18 Speaker 2: that you did not invite her to on her show.

41:22 Speaker 1: Crazy.

41:23 Speaker 2: That is why I think people like michaelab can get

41:25 Speaker 2: a pass to be like, I don't want to be

41:27 Speaker 2: around someone.

41:28 Speaker 1: Like you, because Whitney could end up being in the

41:31 Speaker 1: same position.

41:31 Speaker 2: But in season three and watch she will. She'll be

41:34 Speaker 2: the king of mon talk by season four. Don't worry

41:37 Speaker 2: Whenney's coming for y'all. I can see it. I don't

41:39 Speaker 2: like everybody can tell you that that's happening, like slowly.

41:43 Speaker 1: Making her way from the bottom to the top.

41:45 Speaker 3: Okay, With Michayla, it's like people are like, oh, well,

41:49 Speaker 3: she's doing too much now because she didn't do shit

41:52 Speaker 3: last season. Like no, actually, when I had a beef

41:55 Speaker 3: with the bitch, I'm not gonna forgive her just like that,

41:58 Speaker 3: Like I don't have to.

41:59 Speaker 1: I don't really understanding what chronicles.

42:00 Speaker 3: Also, she literally gave us. She gave us storyline like

42:06 Speaker 3: this girl literally talked about her childhood trauma, talked about

42:10 Speaker 3: how she was molested by a family member until the

42:12 Speaker 3: age of like fifteen sixteen, her own mother didn't believe her.

42:16 Speaker 3: Then her fucking predator husband is there who married her

42:20 Speaker 3: and got her pregnant at sixteen, and she keeps getting

42:23 Speaker 3: pregnant and that's why she looked like that, because she

42:26 Speaker 3: stressed the fuck out.

42:28 Speaker 1: She's her chronic on this for a long time.

42:31 Speaker 2: It's really interesting that they didn't spend a lot of

42:33 Speaker 2: time on that for her, But they also didn't spend

42:35 Speaker 2: a lot of time on that for Jesse. Jesse has

42:37 Speaker 2: the same we had same that word stories. So that's

42:43 Speaker 2: that's kind of crazy. Uh, that's what I've been dealing

42:46 Speaker 2: with for the last year or so, and it's helped

42:49 Speaker 2: god longer.

42:49 Speaker 3: Than I'm so sorry to hear that, because that is

42:53 Speaker 3: not like, that's just painful.

42:58 Speaker 1: It is so bad.

42:59 Speaker 2: It used to be like the brainfall alone used to

43:01 Speaker 2: be the worst thing in the world. So oh boy,

43:05 Speaker 2: it looked at the idea of trying to finish a

43:07 Speaker 2: thought at any point of talking, not a thing Olympics

43:13 Speaker 2: for it. I'd be like, wow, words, I had some

43:16 Speaker 2: of those ones. That was right, right, Burger, Oh my god.

43:20 Speaker 1: I just watched that the other day.

43:21 Speaker 3: It was on the Roku channel, and then I got stuck.

43:29 Speaker 1: Why I feel like I was influenced.

43:33 Speaker 3: And has like influenced speaking of Burry King, Barry King

43:37 Speaker 3: has a how to Train Your Dragon meal and.

43:39 Speaker 1: They have my wife fact the lemonade. What's the meal?

43:43 Speaker 3: Okay, the meal is like a flame burger and they

43:46 Speaker 3: have like spicy monsrostick, So shout out to y'all on that.

43:52 Speaker 3: But yeah, so MASI has also chronic ill.

43:56 Speaker 1: Apparently has the tailor drink. Can you even track that?

44:00 Speaker 3: Taylor?

44:01 Speaker 1: Taylor?

44:05 Speaker 3: What is it? What flavor it is?

44:09 Speaker 1: Last? Something like twisted?

44:13 Speaker 3: I need I need all the all of the soda

44:15 Speaker 3: combinations because if that's gonna keep me hopped up without

44:18 Speaker 3: the kedemine.

44:19 Speaker 2: Like, I'll try it without coffee, but I also feel

44:24 Speaker 2: like I should just drink coffee.

44:25 Speaker 3: It's okay, we all got our advice just.

44:28 Speaker 2: With like two or three or four shots, you know exactly.

44:33 Speaker 3: We didn't even tell me. What do you think about? Okay? Well, no,

44:38 Speaker 3: two things. What did you think? And where did you

44:41 Speaker 3: land on Taylor's terrible mom going to the Christmas party?

44:48 Speaker 3: Because on one hand, I'm like, that's somebody mama, so

44:51 Speaker 3: I would we personally, I'll walk away, but she wants

44:55 Speaker 3: on TV.

44:55 Speaker 2: But if you're choosing to engage with her to have

44:57 Speaker 2: a moment. You can't go too far, and you know

45:00 Speaker 2: where too far is. It's already crazy to me that

45:03 Speaker 2: you're even fighting with her mama period. It's crazy to

45:05 Speaker 2: me that you said some of the things that you

45:07 Speaker 2: said before you made her cry. You're kind of bugging

45:11 Speaker 2: when you tell that lady that she needs to go

45:13 Speaker 2: and be a mom.

45:14 Speaker 1: She currently was at home, not at the party.

45:17 Speaker 2: Her mom was there for that reason, she was not invited,

45:20 Speaker 2: and like that's why you deserve the pettiaskupt that you

45:24 Speaker 2: got of those extensions from jay Z Styles.

45:28 Speaker 1: I thought that was hilarious. That is.

45:32 Speaker 2: That she was going to do some wild things behind

45:35 Speaker 2: her mama, and you know what, you got what you

45:38 Speaker 2: got and rowed me up so much.

45:40 Speaker 1: I know Taylor did gold.

45:42 Speaker 2: In her giant sweatpants and her messy bunn and her

45:45 Speaker 2: whoever extensions with her popcorn and said ee because.

45:51 Speaker 1: Okay, do you see what kind of person she is?

45:55 Speaker 2: What do you think about the altimatum that she gave

45:57 Speaker 2: the girlies where she right gonna be her or me?

46:01 Speaker 1: Like that? She said her more than once.

46:03 Speaker 2: I think I think she just said it and thought

46:04 Speaker 2: that it was going to be like something would.

46:07 Speaker 3: Be to her every time. It's gonna be her every time.

46:12 Speaker 3: I love when she got mad that that she thought

46:15 Speaker 3: that Taylor said that there's gonna be a vote or whatever.

46:17 Speaker 3: She's like, this got to be a fucking vote, because

46:19 Speaker 3: you know you.

46:21 Speaker 1: On me, voting on me? Are you kidding? Well?

46:25 Speaker 3: We should we should, we should see, we should see

46:27 Speaker 3: what the results would be, bitch, like, be clear, I think.

46:31 Speaker 1: It would be kind of crazy. I think you'd be shocked.

46:34 Speaker 2: But I know she was shocked by how few people

46:36 Speaker 2: were voting on Taylor getting out.

46:38 Speaker 1: They were like, no, we don't understand, we don't quite.

46:40 Speaker 3: Have this is Taylor.

46:43 Speaker 2: Issues with her that you do, which is one thing

46:48 Speaker 2: that is I think they were saying, like, yes, it's

46:50 Speaker 2: Taylor shook. They even said we got all these opportunities

46:53 Speaker 2: because of her.

46:54 Speaker 1: We don't really because she kind of brought us all together.

46:57 Speaker 2: We're having a nice time being together, making a ton

46:59 Speaker 2: of money.

47:02 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm good with that, and we don't care.

47:06 Speaker 3: And it won't be you. It's not that it's not

47:08 Speaker 3: gonna be the Demmy show. Like I really liked Dimmy

47:09 Speaker 3: last season.

47:10 Speaker 1: I think that she was brand deal. She's not the one.

47:14 Speaker 1: She's just not she.

47:16 Speaker 3: I will say though she was to me at least

47:19 Speaker 3: a fan favorite because it was like, Okay, what the

47:21 Speaker 3: fuck did she do with the fruity pebbles? Okay, her

47:24 Speaker 3: husband was married to who Injie Harrington? Okay, like what

47:27 Speaker 3: is going like? There was a lot of stuff that

47:29 Speaker 3: I wanted to know more about Demmy and then I

47:31 Speaker 3: couldn't tell the difference between Demmy and Jesse. But then

47:34 Speaker 3: you know, this season I came into it. You could,

47:38 Speaker 3: I could not, I could, I could, And that's why,

47:41 Speaker 3: Uh if for you guys who watched Bonnetfest, I forgot

47:46 Speaker 3: which one of us it was. Someone was like Demmy

47:50 Speaker 3: and Jesse looked so much alike that Marciano might have

47:53 Speaker 3: thought that he, you know, made out with them both

47:56 Speaker 3: because they look so much alike. But really, truly, I

47:59 Speaker 3: think it was did me probably, But you said that

48:02 Speaker 3: something happened with Marciano. So obviously we have some continuation

48:06 Speaker 3: of the drama from vander pump Villa, which they had

48:10 Speaker 3: Layla be the messenger for which was obviously a producer stunt.

48:14 Speaker 3: So not too much from Leila. But what what did

48:17 Speaker 3: you see or what's going on? With Marciano because the

48:20 Speaker 3: last thing that I heard he was talking about victims

48:23 Speaker 3: and you know, assault and like all this stuff, and

48:27 Speaker 3: I'm like, what does that have to do with her

48:29 Speaker 3: playing truth or Dare in Italy? And also like making

48:33 Speaker 3: out at Vander Pump at Vanda Pump, sir or wherever

48:37 Speaker 3: they fuck they were, Tim, Tim.

48:46 Speaker 1: Marciano got fired.

48:48 Speaker 2: Now the receipts are open and on the way, because

48:51 Speaker 2: that's the first thing that they do once they get

48:53 Speaker 2: kicked off whatever show. You know, House potonac What was

48:58 Speaker 2: that band's name that went crazy and started chilling every day?

49:02 Speaker 1: Who t J?

49:04 Speaker 3: Tj' He didn't, Okay, so why I heard that TJ

49:09 Speaker 3: had receipts? But he never dropped them, so it doesn't matter.

49:13 Speaker 2: So allegedly there was a case of infidelity. Yes, so

49:19 Speaker 2: there's a lot of talk about what Marciano like actually

49:23 Speaker 2: did with one of the girlies, whether Demmy or Jesse.

49:28 Speaker 2: The producers made it seem like it was not that

49:31 Speaker 2: big of a deal. They're all making me a very

49:33 Speaker 2: big deal. We don't quite know why.

49:35 Speaker 1: It seems like it maybe was cut up a little

49:38 Speaker 1: bit and.

49:38 Speaker 3: The last but what was it, Like, I don't understand.

49:42 Speaker 2: I guess that's what we're talking about with maybe like a.

49:47 Speaker 1: Slight kiss on the cheek.

49:48 Speaker 2: But to be fair, if this is a community that

49:53 Speaker 2: would believe Demi when she says that that guy just

49:56 Speaker 2: put his hands on me and she just put his

49:57 Speaker 2: hands on me, when he literally just moved past her

50:01 Speaker 2: essentially and touched her elbow.

50:03 Speaker 1: It was not aggressive at all. It really was not.

50:07 Speaker 3: It wasn't aggressive at all, But that was kind of

50:09 Speaker 3: hot bread. Not gonna lie like, yeah, googy disastered, you.

50:13 Speaker 1: Would do that, And that was a little to me.

50:15 Speaker 3: It don't do it on purpose, you give it no purpose.

50:20 Speaker 3: But that's why I kind of liked it. I kind

50:23 Speaker 3: of liked it when the police had got caught because

50:26 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I get those white people, but go ahead.

50:28 Speaker 2: I love that, and I love justin being like, have

50:30 Speaker 2: you ever seen our show? Because that would explain why

50:34 Speaker 2: these men are out of your shirt list making a

50:36 Speaker 2: terrible mistake that they'll regret in a couple of days.

50:38 Speaker 1: They are not drunk, They're simply.

50:40 Speaker 3: Just one kedemine and caffeine up.

50:45 Speaker 2: No, no, they don't do caffeine, oh raffeine, So they can't.

50:49 Speaker 1: Have coffee but they can have coke.

50:51 Speaker 2: I guess I don't know how that works because it's

50:53 Speaker 2: both caffeine.

50:54 Speaker 3: So it's because coffee is hot. You can't have hot caffeine.

51:00 Speaker 2: What there's no ice. They can't have ice coffee. You

51:06 Speaker 2: don't have ice with only ice coffee options.

51:09 Speaker 3: They can't have hot coffee. They can have they can

51:12 Speaker 3: have cold soda. They can't have hot tea. They can't

51:16 Speaker 3: have hot tea with caffeine. They can't have hot coffee,

51:20 Speaker 3: but they can have cold soda.

51:23 Speaker 1: But can they have cold coffee? Yes, so they can

51:29 Speaker 1: have ice coffee. Where is the.

51:30 Speaker 3: Starbucks because they do soda instead.

51:36 Speaker 1: It's that's so wild. I would still want iced coffee

51:38 Speaker 1: if I couldn't have hot coffee. I don't need hot coffee.

51:41 Speaker 1: I mean it's cold there, but I don't need it.

51:43 Speaker 2: That's so crazy, Especially if I would drink ice soda,

51:46 Speaker 2: I would drink ice coffee.

51:48 Speaker 1: It wouldn't matter.

51:49 Speaker 2: But okay, so them then the man being basically sober

51:56 Speaker 2: and still running around like trying to shake Chase down

52:00 Speaker 2: for answers on why he's hostel with the women inside.

52:04 Speaker 2: It's because he wants to hide what they did. I

52:08 Speaker 2: think he told Taylor that he was in love with

52:10 Speaker 2: her as well.

52:12 Speaker 3: Oh we know that she said all that on TikTok

52:15 Speaker 3: on ticket Talk, Yeah she did.

52:17 Speaker 1: She says a lot of things on TikTok, which is

52:19 Speaker 1: also why she gets a lot of money. We are

52:21 Speaker 1: tuned in. She spills it. And I like a messy.

52:24 Speaker 2: Girl with a messy bunch who's ready to be like,

52:27 Speaker 2: I'm a mess and I still.

52:29 Speaker 3: Deserve you know what she only and I want. And

52:32 Speaker 3: I'm sorry that you guys. I know that this is

52:34 Speaker 3: a fun conversation, but I need to always bring it

52:37 Speaker 3: up that the people that like e Kane, like Morgan Bailey,

52:43 Speaker 3: like our TikTok messy resident and black women, you know,

52:47 Speaker 3: with like the baby Daddy from the random Man from

52:51 Speaker 3: Atlanta and all that, they don't get the grace. They

52:53 Speaker 3: don't get the same brand deals. They don't get the

52:55 Speaker 3: same Why are these people on the view, Why are

52:58 Speaker 3: they on Dancing with the Stars, Why are they, you know,

53:00 Speaker 3: meeting people from Bachelor Nation when people like people that

53:04 Speaker 3: are black, or like the Love and Hip Hop people

53:07 Speaker 3: or even the Cartel Cup people when they was out,

53:10 Speaker 3: we never got those same opportunities. They just called US ghetto.

53:14 Speaker 3: While these bitches are doing works, there's actually actively swinging

53:20 Speaker 3: and going on the morning America. What the fuck is going.

53:24 Speaker 1: On than normal?

53:32 Speaker 3: Before chaos that one thing would happen, right, like, one

53:40 Speaker 3: thing would happen and then I'll try to digest it.

53:43 Speaker 3: But before I get to digest that, something else would happen.

53:46 Speaker 3: And I'm like, wait, that's why it's just like you,

53:49 Speaker 3: I need to go and like really let rewatch it

53:53 Speaker 3: because some people would be like, oh no, she said this, that,

53:56 Speaker 3: that and the other, and I'm like, what scene was that?

53:58 Speaker 3: Because I'm still on I'm still on the scene where

54:02 Speaker 3: they're on the trip and Poppy. I think that Poppy

54:04 Speaker 3: sponsored them. Poppy, if you like to sponsor me, let

54:09 Speaker 3: me know.

54:14 Speaker 2: I do what Target, and I know that they sponsor

54:17 Speaker 2: the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.

54:20 Speaker 3: So I'm good on I'm good on Target.

54:22 Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. I think Poppy is making

54:27 Speaker 1: someone very clear.

54:29 Speaker 3: I'm good on Target. I ain't know it was okay, Ollipop,

54:33 Speaker 3: Ollipop take we can take Coppy down, then we can

54:38 Speaker 3: take Copy down. Then bitch like we could just launch

54:40 Speaker 3: our own We'll get Ollipop at costco.

54:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, because like it makes sense that that's why the

54:45 Speaker 2: girlies are being sponsored by Poppy because again I suspended

54:49 Speaker 2: that no one fool while what I was walking into

54:52 Speaker 2: and I wanted to say something about, like I think

54:54 Speaker 2: these women though in the Mormon marriages, they are even

54:58 Speaker 2: though they do still subscribe to and tradwise, they consider

55:02 Speaker 2: that like their quote unquote and they're modernizing of it.

55:06 Speaker 2: The women make money, but they feel their husbands are

55:08 Speaker 2: entitled to it.

55:09 Speaker 1: And that is what the true.

55:11 Speaker 3: That's even worse and that's but that is what.

55:14 Speaker 2: The idea is because the idea used to be that

55:16 Speaker 2: you were fully dependent on him. He is the only

55:19 Speaker 2: thing is the breadwinner. And then it's like, okay, women

55:22 Speaker 2: can work. The Mormon church used to have it best

55:24 Speaker 2: talks about it and then you should you can work.

55:28 Speaker 2: But in fact they want them to be Lucra did.

55:30 Speaker 2: That's why Utah and Salt Lake City is the land

55:33 Speaker 2: of the MLMs and the pyramid schemes because the girl

55:37 Speaker 2: leans are always trying to girl boss.

55:38 Speaker 1: They're all trying to grow boss.

55:39 Speaker 2: Okay, my favorite, okay, my favorite rip to my relationship

55:45 Speaker 2: with Target and this brand you know again, a new

55:49 Speaker 2: better studio McGee.

55:50 Speaker 1: My favorite, like collection at Target.

55:53 Speaker 2: She had a show on Netflix also she moved to

55:56 Speaker 2: Salt Lake City from California to be more.

55:59 Speaker 1: And more basically with her husband, who is probably on

56:06 Speaker 1: one of those trips with Whitney's husband once a year

56:09 Speaker 1: to the.

56:12 Speaker 3: Interesting.

56:14 Speaker 1: Still on Netflix, it's called Dream Homemakeover. She's really good,

56:18 Speaker 1: but she built.

56:19 Speaker 2: This empire of a business, huge empire of a business,

56:23 Speaker 2: and her husband is apparently like the president of it,

56:27 Speaker 2: like her partner in it, but he doesn't do anything.

56:31 Speaker 2: She is literally the face, the talent, the she still

56:36 Speaker 2: does like the actual interior.

56:38 Speaker 1: She still does directly homes and he's.

56:41 Speaker 2: Like sitting on the confessionals like yeah, like we made

56:45 Speaker 2: rest pispy treats.

56:47 Speaker 1: I feel like he's stone all the time. It's crazy.

56:50 Speaker 1: And she's like sober. She's so sober. She's boring.

56:53 Speaker 3: She's doing that. Its sober, yes, not even Maybe she

56:57 Speaker 3: moved Mormon so she could do I mean she moved

56:59 Speaker 3: to Youth Sokee.

57:02 Speaker 1: She really does move.

57:03 Speaker 2: So she could be a better Mormon, like be a

57:05 Speaker 2: good woman. And she doesn't like shut. She wears her

57:08 Speaker 2: garments like all the things. She was very gin but

57:10 Speaker 2: like older, but like the fact that her husband has

57:13 Speaker 2: full access and stuff to her business and their money

57:15 Speaker 2: and it's like split and the scene is shared.

57:17 Speaker 1: I see.

57:18 Speaker 2: I do really like the idea of like making my

57:23 Speaker 2: own foods and things. It's like nice to clip through

57:27 Speaker 2: while I'm going to bed. So I do find myself

57:30 Speaker 2: dabbling and try by territory on Facebook a little bit

57:33 Speaker 2: too regularly and thanks to AI, and I don't like

57:36 Speaker 2: it there. I feel uncomfortable, don't agree with a lot

57:38 Speaker 2: of things, don't agree.

57:40 Speaker 1: With mostly.

57:43 Speaker 3: Minds off, you know different, like.

57:45 Speaker 2: The recipes for like lollipops, like I would beary lollipops.

57:48 Speaker 2: I actually would love to try like certain things like that.

57:51 Speaker 1: I like all these girls make their views are insane.

57:58 Speaker 2: They're making money on Facebook, and her husbands are like

58:02 Speaker 2: dancing in the videos, all looking like they're probably on

58:05 Speaker 2: that trip of theirs at some point in the year

58:09 Speaker 2: we ended. They are like, I'm like, no, throw you're

58:13 Speaker 2: the boss, like you did it.

58:15 Speaker 1: It's you.

58:21 Speaker 2: Actually, yes, I'd be pride month speaking of ladies that

58:25 Speaker 2: are like not aware of their power and their relationship

58:29 Speaker 2: on the highest degree, the oofs degree. Let's like wrap around,

58:34 Speaker 2: like wrap up with our thoughts on the gin Apple

58:37 Speaker 2: and uh that we thankfully don't have much to review

58:44 Speaker 2: because she stopped filming with the crew. The crew decided

58:48 Speaker 2: to stop from with her once she decided to check

58:50 Speaker 2: in for her mental health. So I want to start

58:52 Speaker 2: there actually and work our way backwards, because it feels

58:55 Speaker 2: cruel to go the other way around.

58:59 Speaker 1: That lady is trapped. She feels very trapped. I actually

59:02 Speaker 1: feel really, really really sad for her, like my.

59:07 Speaker 3: Heart pause, the fact that a pause all opinions about

59:14 Speaker 3: her character and her integrity.

59:16 Speaker 2: We will get to that when I work backwards, but

59:19 Speaker 2: at this moment, I understand why she needed to get

59:23 Speaker 2: mental health help, the fact that she is out and

59:26 Speaker 2: this Nick Vial podcasting is going viral.

59:30 Speaker 1: About that still being aful.

59:32 Speaker 2: Human being and really throwing his wife under the bus

59:36 Speaker 2: and manipulating her actions to be somehow like worse than

59:42 Speaker 2: what they are or really sinister in a way that

59:45 Speaker 2: doesn't make sense, that happening in her laughing about it,

59:49 Speaker 2: but you know, she's still in survival mode, and I

59:51 Speaker 2: really hate that for a young woman with all these

59:53 Speaker 2: kids and like fresh out of post part.

59:55 Speaker 3: I'm pregnant still when she thank you.

59:58 Speaker 1: When she found out she was pregnant, like I stobbed that.

1:00:04 Speaker 3: She stopped, but he did that on purpose, sick.

1:00:13 Speaker 2: Also just like single hand to lead the demise her

1:00:16 Speaker 2: relationship with those girls. I don't I understand that people

1:00:21 Speaker 2: think that she lied to I don't think she lied

1:00:23 Speaker 2: to Zach. I think that Zach is not capable of

1:00:26 Speaker 2: hearing the truth in a way that is not inflated

1:00:29 Speaker 2: or decorated or.

1:00:30 Speaker 1: You have to omit a lot. He is not a

1:00:32 Speaker 1: stable human being.

1:00:34 Speaker 2: I don't understand how we're not seeing that, in which case,

1:00:37 Speaker 2: as a twenty four year old woman at the time

1:00:40 Speaker 2: that she was, I'm sure she was a little hesitant

1:00:43 Speaker 2: to tell him, like, yeah, so he's gonna come into

1:00:45 Speaker 2: Chippendell's costume so he can be like, why why.

1:00:48 Speaker 1: Is he coming in that? I don't know. You need

1:00:50 Speaker 1: to tell them I'm not coming. Now he's not coming.

1:00:52 Speaker 1: He blows up.

1:00:52 Speaker 2: She's not going, she's not allowed to go boom, she's

1:00:55 Speaker 2: not filming. I think she's just in a state of

1:00:58 Speaker 2: like self present and you DEMI did not say anything

1:01:05 Speaker 2: else because y'all played this clip every time like it's

1:01:07 Speaker 2: supposed to mean something more than what it said, which

1:01:10 Speaker 2: was Brett's gonna come in a Chippindale's costume, and it's

1:01:16 Speaker 2: gonna he's gonna come and he's gonna change.

1:01:18 Speaker 1: Into a Trippingdales cost and it's gonna be like funny.

1:01:21 Speaker 2: She's getting her highlights stuck in the chair one. She's

1:01:24 Speaker 2: gonna be sitting in that bitch for like another two hours,

1:01:27 Speaker 2: maybe three. The highlights are long. You're standing over me.

1:01:31 Speaker 2: You're telling me that your husband is gonna come and

1:01:34 Speaker 2: you know, in one outfit and then come down and

1:01:36 Speaker 2: change into an outfit. And it's gonna be funny because

1:01:39 Speaker 2: the best thing for my husband and your husband and

1:01:41 Speaker 2: he was exposure therapy. She works Zach up for days

1:01:45 Speaker 2: to be okay with the idea of exposure therapy. They

1:01:49 Speaker 2: do add another layer to it that I don't think

1:01:53 Speaker 2: she was privy to un lest they tell me otherwise,

1:01:56 Speaker 2: and they have not come up with proof of otherwise.

1:01:58 Speaker 2: And having an r Chippendale's like remake performance with your

1:02:03 Speaker 2: friend's husbands rubbing up on each other in the room

1:02:07 Speaker 2: of a swinger allegation, what are we talking about? You

1:02:11 Speaker 2: know that she's gonna fucking crash out, because that is

1:02:13 Speaker 2: going to crash out. He's taking that home to that

1:02:16 Speaker 2: lady every time, and whatever her way, he is making her.

1:02:20 Speaker 2: So when that lady found out she was pregnant, she

1:02:24 Speaker 2: looked devastated and terrified, and I really felt for her

1:02:28 Speaker 2: in that moment. He is not an easy person to

1:02:30 Speaker 2: be married to, and the narcissism that he has is

1:02:33 Speaker 2: kind of it's kind of contagious, and that's what we're

1:02:36 Speaker 2: picking up on from her.

1:02:39 Speaker 3: He's scared of him blank period.

1:02:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, found a little bit scared of him because.

1:02:47 Speaker 3: At first she was doing so good, but he purposely

1:02:52 Speaker 3: dropped out of school. He purposely said that he was

1:02:55 Speaker 3: trying to change. She was. He saw that she was

1:02:58 Speaker 3: gaining her confidence. Fact that she saw that she get out,

1:03:02 Speaker 3: she was trying to get out, like the camera was

1:03:04 Speaker 3: about the flash. Okay, she was about to get out,

1:03:08 Speaker 3: but then he was like, not so fast. I'm in therapy,

1:03:11 Speaker 3: I'm changing, I understand, And then he purposely got her pregnant.

1:03:17 Speaker 3: She fucked up when she let him move into that house.

1:03:20 Speaker 3: But of course she was gonna let him move in

1:03:21 Speaker 3: because that's her husband and she's trying to work through it,

1:03:24 Speaker 3: and you know, they have these kids. And she has

1:03:27 Speaker 3: to like figure out like, Hey, I want to be

1:03:29 Speaker 3: on this show. I want to do all these things.

1:03:34 Speaker 3: She's like, I have to do all this stuff. And

1:03:37 Speaker 3: she wants to be a part of mom'sp because that's

1:03:39 Speaker 3: what she has, that's what she does, that's who she like,

1:03:44 Speaker 3: that's what she finds now. And she was like one

1:03:46 Speaker 3: of the from what I understand, she's one of the

1:03:49 Speaker 3: members that got added on like later. So she's trying

1:03:52 Speaker 3: to navigate this at the same time while also being

1:03:55 Speaker 3: twenty four while also like and she's also the one

1:04:00 Speaker 3: whose mom worked at the hospital that Zach's dad is

1:04:05 Speaker 3: a doctor at. So like there's such a dynamic.

1:04:08 Speaker 1: This entire stuff. She's been in that marriage. I do

1:04:10 Speaker 1: believe she was lied to.

1:04:11 Speaker 2: I do believe that they if they were joking with

1:04:13 Speaker 2: her about the Benaffle I thing. I think she was

1:04:15 Speaker 2: not getting on the joke. I think she is like

1:04:17 Speaker 2: flulabbergasted that they would pin this on her. And it

1:04:21 Speaker 2: is not a coincidence to me that he coins law

1:04:26 Speaker 2: school comes back. She's the breadwinner and now she's he's

1:04:29 Speaker 2: relying on her. And then at the same time, so

1:04:32 Speaker 2: she has that pressure because she's cheating mom. So okay,

1:04:35 Speaker 2: I'm going on. I support you, I'm gonna do I'm

1:04:39 Speaker 2: going all in, I'm gonna leave the char I'm to

1:04:41 Speaker 2: do all these big gestures. But he's also orchestrating an

1:04:44 Speaker 2: entire wedge between her and talking to her friends.

1:04:48 Speaker 3: We did that on purpose. That's what abusers would do.

1:04:52 Speaker 3: They will literally try to isolate you. And that's what

1:04:56 Speaker 3: you did.

1:04:57 Speaker 1: For First of all, let me again, I believe this.

1:05:00 Speaker 2: Somebody said at some point to her in the six

1:05:02 Speaker 2: or whatever is she's deal with this man that we're

1:05:05 Speaker 2: related to Benafflat. I don't think that's something that she

1:05:07 Speaker 2: made up. I think that is something she genuinely leave

1:05:09 Speaker 2: because she's young enough to believe it, and she was

1:05:11 Speaker 2: naive enough to believe it. And that's not her fault.

1:05:14 Speaker 2: It's your fault for lying to her. That's not the case.

1:05:16 Speaker 2: But Zach's sitting down and telling her BFS or whatever

1:05:19 Speaker 2: that Jen. You know, she keeps saying that, and we

1:05:23 Speaker 2: keep telling her to stop. We don't know where she

1:05:25 Speaker 2: came up with that. You're a terrible human. You don't

1:05:27 Speaker 2: have her back.

1:05:28 Speaker 3: I don't like you, But why are you doing that? Friends?

1:05:33 Speaker 3: Not only yes, that's such a good point. And like

1:05:36 Speaker 3: on top of that, it's like, why producers, this is

1:05:41 Speaker 3: for you, Stop showing me this man, this man's claim

1:05:46 Speaker 3: to hate Mom. I understand that he's the villain. We're

1:05:48 Speaker 3: gonna all hate him. We're gonna, you know, see that

1:05:50 Speaker 3: he's manipulative. Some people fell for it, and they're like

1:05:54 Speaker 3: they got the okie dough. They're like, oh, you know,

1:05:56 Speaker 3: he's really trying whatever. He's a husband, she's so terrible, Like, okay,

1:05:59 Speaker 3: it's some people saw it, but me personally, I'm like,

1:06:03 Speaker 3: this man is still terrible. Get him off my screen.

1:06:06 Speaker 3: If you hate mom talks so much, if you hate

1:06:09 Speaker 3: secret lize a Mormon wife so much, if you're trying

1:06:11 Speaker 3: to rebuild your marriage and you're serious about it, why

1:06:15 Speaker 3: the fuck are you on my camera?

1:06:18 Speaker 1: Just wants to say I went all in on you,

1:06:21 Speaker 1: and those girls all betrayed you and turn their backs

1:06:23 Speaker 1: on you, and I did that for you, and I

1:06:26 Speaker 1: was right. I told you should have chosen me over Mom.

1:06:29 Speaker 1: Sob and now he has control forever because she has

1:06:31 Speaker 1: a proof of concept.

1:06:34 Speaker 3: I just want her to pop this baby out. And

1:06:38 Speaker 3: I need I need this, I need something to happen

1:06:44 Speaker 3: to where she's like, okay, I have to go, like

1:06:46 Speaker 3: I don't wish more heartbreak on her, but I need

1:06:51 Speaker 3: something that's going to like really wake her up because

1:06:54 Speaker 3: she was getting She was so strong with it when

1:06:56 Speaker 3: they want to film and he didn't want to film,

1:06:59 Speaker 3: and she's like, well, okay, we're filming, like this is

1:07:02 Speaker 3: what it is. I was like, yeah, I clapped, I clapped.

1:07:06 Speaker 3: I was like, yes, stand up, but then he got

1:07:12 Speaker 3: her pregnant. I'm so mad, And I mean there are

1:07:14 Speaker 3: sometimes I'm like, Okay, you're telling them one thing, you're

1:07:17 Speaker 3: telling him another thing, and it's gonna clasp because you're

1:07:21 Speaker 3: letting them talk to each other by themselves, and you

1:07:25 Speaker 3: should not let them talk to if they're even gonna talk,

1:07:29 Speaker 3: because I don't even understand why he talked, Like I

1:07:31 Speaker 3: get that you want him to apologize, but you need

1:07:33 Speaker 3: to be there too then, because you need to be

1:07:35 Speaker 3: there to referee, referee, say what you said, say what

1:07:38 Speaker 3: you didn't say, But you are fucking up by not

1:07:41 Speaker 3: being there.

1:07:44 Speaker 2: She was like talking to her friends, and I think

1:07:46 Speaker 2: that those girls had different intentions when they sat down

1:07:49 Speaker 2: with theck and that fell. So what then, issue was

1:07:52 Speaker 2: he went there and he think demmy, I mean not demmy.

1:07:55 Speaker 2: He threw his wife under the bus because they seemed

1:07:57 Speaker 2: like they were open to that. They went in defensively

1:08:00 Speaker 2: to be like, hey, we feel like she told us

1:08:04 Speaker 2: this thing, and you're telling us this thing, so like

1:08:06 Speaker 2: which is it?

1:08:06 Speaker 1: And in those moments, I think you should have apologized

1:08:09 Speaker 1: and just had your wife's back exactly talking out figured

1:08:13 Speaker 1: it out. But like, listen, this is what happened. This

1:08:15 Speaker 1: is what we said.

1:08:16 Speaker 3: But then he also uses this his it's his language also,

1:08:20 Speaker 3: that's like, well.

1:08:22 Speaker 1: An individual and in the.

1:08:24 Speaker 3: Words yes, he's like, well, I have to believe. I

1:08:29 Speaker 3: have to choose to believe what my wife told me.

1:08:32 Speaker 3: If that's not the truth, then I will have to

1:08:35 Speaker 3: you know, deal. And I'm like what you mother effort bro,

1:08:41 Speaker 3: like he would mean clean and my wife.

1:08:46 Speaker 2: I supported her. I believed her, and she was the liar.

1:08:50 Speaker 2: She he got painted as to be the last season

1:08:53 Speaker 2: and he wanted to do it to his wife this season.

1:08:55 Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of wild.

1:08:57 Speaker 3: And I kind of literally worked on a lot of women.

1:09:00 Speaker 3: A lot of women are like, oh, this is a

1:09:01 Speaker 3: good man, Savannah, and I'm like, no, no, no, no,

1:09:05 Speaker 3: we lost the plot. It's so crazy. And you know

1:09:08 Speaker 3: what was the saddest part about it, the statist part

1:09:11 Speaker 3: about like say, say what y'all will about Mormonism. I

1:09:14 Speaker 3: get it, trust like you know, I'm not a Mormon,

1:09:18 Speaker 3: so like that, that's that whole thing is not for me.

1:09:22 Speaker 3: But when she said it's like she's she lost her

1:09:26 Speaker 3: friend group, she lost her friend group. She is, you know,

1:09:31 Speaker 3: working on her marriage, almost lost her marriage. She has

1:09:34 Speaker 3: her kids that she can't even like really connect to.

1:09:37 Speaker 3: She finds out she's pregnant, and then she's like, I'm

1:09:40 Speaker 3: talking to God and he's not even talking back. That

1:09:42 Speaker 3: broke my heart because it's like this man made you

1:09:45 Speaker 3: lose your religion basically like your friend group, your your

1:09:51 Speaker 3: connection with your kids, yourself, your like your connection, your spirituality.

1:09:58 Speaker 3: He's taking everything from her. That is so sad to see.

1:10:04 Speaker 3: It's sad to see, it's sad to see.

1:10:09 Speaker 1: The girls are not loyal to each other at all. Again.

1:10:12 Speaker 2: You saw that when Denny said that Jesse, if she

1:10:14 Speaker 2: needs to go, she can go if we need.

1:10:16 Speaker 3: To get to.

1:10:18 Speaker 1: Scrap and what you said about my business, because that's

1:10:22 Speaker 1: just hat shit.

1:10:23 Speaker 3: But the way I have yeah, no about my money.

1:10:29 Speaker 3: I'm not playing like, Okay, we can do the drama

1:10:31 Speaker 3: for the keys, we can do the drama for the cameras.

1:10:34 Speaker 3: But if I find out, not only are you trying

1:10:35 Speaker 3: to get me kick off the show, but you're also

1:10:37 Speaker 3: telling people not to go to my business, You're trying

1:10:39 Speaker 3: to make me broke, like you bitch, because apparently you

1:10:42 Speaker 3: must be broke because that's how you're thinking. So we're

1:10:45 Speaker 3: going I'm going to fight you six times? Like really,

1:10:47 Speaker 3: did Slim be clear?

1:10:57 Speaker 2: I wouldn't wish Jen the best? Felt back further. She

1:11:00 Speaker 2: even had to exit early. I'm glad she got mental

1:11:03 Speaker 2: health health. But again this viral podcast situation whereas Thatch

1:11:09 Speaker 2: accused her of not of getting pregnant, so she got pregnant.

1:11:16 Speaker 2: She gave birth to their baby six months later, he

1:11:21 Speaker 2: said she was pregnant again because she took out her

1:11:25 Speaker 2: ID without telling him.

1:11:29 Speaker 1: Here are my thoughts.

1:11:32 Speaker 2: Your relationship, your partnership, your marriage, your business. If it's

1:11:38 Speaker 2: not your body, your choice, and you need to tell

1:11:40 Speaker 2: your husband and he needs to in forfarm you whether

1:11:43 Speaker 2: or not he is cool with.

1:11:45 Speaker 1: You taking out contraception or not.

1:11:49 Speaker 2: Beyond the conversation, of just what's our backup plan then, like,

1:11:53 Speaker 2: is this something that you want, like having an actual

1:11:55 Speaker 2: conversation if it's something that you need to get approval

1:11:58 Speaker 2: for already, my flag is pink. Just want to just

1:12:01 Speaker 2: put that up there, but like that's that's one thing,

1:12:04 Speaker 2: and we're gonna put that aside. She was pregnant, she

1:12:10 Speaker 2: gave birth, six months later, she got pregnant again. Well yeah,

1:12:16 Speaker 2: because at what point was her iud N. I really

1:12:19 Speaker 2: would like someone who's a doctor, not a mom, or

1:12:21 Speaker 2: a person who like this happened to for whatever medical

1:12:25 Speaker 2: marvel reason. I would like a doctor or like a nurse,

1:12:28 Speaker 2: So like, tell us how likely it is that she

1:12:31 Speaker 2: would have even had her i D in the first place,

1:12:34 Speaker 2: and while she was pregnant with that baby, Like what

1:12:37 Speaker 2: doctor would be like, yeah, let's keep it in while

1:12:40 Speaker 2: we're delivering and all the things. I don't really understand

1:12:43 Speaker 2: how that would work.

1:12:44 Speaker 1: If that's why you're saying when you say like it's

1:12:47 Speaker 1: his words, that's what I mean, because saying something like

1:12:50 Speaker 1: she took her ID out without telling me, it sounds

1:12:53 Speaker 1: a lot like maybe, well you know, I got pregnant.

1:12:56 Speaker 1: How do you get pregnant? Had an idu.

1:12:57 Speaker 2: I took the i D out because I was pregnant

1:13:00 Speaker 2: last time, And he's like, you took it out and

1:13:01 Speaker 2: you didn't tell me. No, I didn't tell you because

1:13:04 Speaker 2: it's fucking standard. Who are you talking about, Like it

1:13:07 Speaker 2: doesn't make sense that you would have an IUD in.

1:13:10 Speaker 2: First of all, it obviously didn't work you're pregnant, But second,

1:13:14 Speaker 2: I'm safe physic and how necessary is it to be

1:13:17 Speaker 2: in your body unless it's like, I don't understand that.

1:13:20 Speaker 2: And it seems like he was just manded that she

1:13:22 Speaker 2: didn't tell him that explicit detail of what would happen

1:13:26 Speaker 2: because she was getting pregnant or whatever the first time

1:13:29 Speaker 2: in order for that to happen the first time, So

1:13:32 Speaker 2: him getting mad at her for getting pregnant again, it's

1:13:34 Speaker 2: kind of ridiculous. But the way he said it makes

1:13:37 Speaker 2: her out to be the villain. I read the comment

1:13:39 Speaker 2: a lot of comments, and it made her out to

1:13:41 Speaker 2: be this foraniculative villain, like, oh, she must just trying

1:13:44 Speaker 2: to protect herself, or maybe she just kept it from

1:13:46 Speaker 2: him because you know, she just didn't want hand to

1:13:49 Speaker 2: like freak out Like No, I think that it's just

1:13:51 Speaker 2: like normal that it would probably not be in or

1:13:53 Speaker 2: be taken out at some point between the first pregnancy

1:13:56 Speaker 2: and the one six months later. I think it might

1:13:59 Speaker 2: not be and at some point in which case, whether

1:14:02 Speaker 2: he knew that or not, because I don't th he's

1:14:04 Speaker 2: going to all those appointments that you can quote me

1:14:06 Speaker 2: on that I.

1:14:07 Speaker 3: Don't trust he's not.

1:14:08 Speaker 1: He doesn't even give a fuck.

1:14:12 Speaker 2: It's something that he had to figure out on his

1:14:14 Speaker 2: own and he doesn't like having to do that. But

1:14:16 Speaker 2: to represent that as like she deliberately went behind your

1:14:20 Speaker 2: back and took her idea so that you could get

1:14:23 Speaker 2: her pregnant and trick you into a pregnancy, that reaction

1:14:26 Speaker 2: was not the reaction of a woman who tricked a

1:14:27 Speaker 2: man into getting her pregnant.

1:14:31 Speaker 3: I don't know they are. It's just a very toxic,

1:14:36 Speaker 3: like like situation where I'm like Taylor, it's like between, Okay,

1:14:42 Speaker 3: Taylor is worried about being a single mom. So I'm

1:14:47 Speaker 3: seeing like, well, she's the only single person. Well, Leyla

1:14:51 Speaker 3: technically a single and she said that apparently her her

1:14:55 Speaker 3: man used her for camera time. But I'm like, we

1:14:57 Speaker 3: didn't really, well what did we learn about? But Okay,

1:15:02 Speaker 3: so I'm seeing the single moms, and then I'm seeing

1:15:05 Speaker 3: the ones who are married, and I'm just like, this

1:15:09 Speaker 3: is just hell, Like choose your poison, because I would

1:15:16 Speaker 3: actually and I did.

1:15:18 Speaker 2: Is so upset because she was like, if any chances

1:15:21 Speaker 2: of me leaving, it just died when I just had

1:15:24 Speaker 2: this baby, because I have to have this baby, and

1:15:27 Speaker 2: I have.

1:15:28 Speaker 3: To be you have to have it.

1:15:30 Speaker 2: That's why she keeps saying that she had to go

1:15:31 Speaker 2: get help for this baby so she can support this baby,

1:15:35 Speaker 2: right like, I literally at this point even have to

1:15:38 Speaker 2: protect my mental sanity in order to keep this pregnancy

1:15:41 Speaker 2: and make sure I don't stress out so much because

1:15:43 Speaker 2: she was devastated to have to stay with that man,

1:15:45 Speaker 2: and that's not a woman who wanted to stay.

1:15:48 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, though I am. I am going to say,

1:15:53 Speaker 3: though I'm not sure if I want to really see

1:15:58 Speaker 3: them on the show. The only reason that I would

1:16:00 Speaker 3: let them, the only the only reason that I would

1:16:03 Speaker 3: allow it is because I feel like her being around

1:16:07 Speaker 3: them and her having her own job and her having

1:16:11 Speaker 3: some fame and her having people to relate to is

1:16:13 Speaker 3: good for her, especially if she ever gets the strength

1:16:16 Speaker 3: to leave. But at the same time, this is a

1:16:19 Speaker 3: little bit. This is darker than Taylor for me personally.

1:16:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so dark that I like it doesn't

1:16:25 Speaker 2: make sense amongst the other drama because I.

1:16:27 Speaker 3: Feel hard exactly, it's two different shows.

1:16:30 Speaker 2: It feels hard pivoting from that and Mean like being like, Dang,

1:16:33 Speaker 2: I really hope y'all get that help that you need.

1:16:35 Speaker 1: But girl, I hope you also get the help you.

1:16:37 Speaker 2: Need and you get out let that man had on

1:16:39 Speaker 2: his own. You don't need to be around that. You're

1:16:42 Speaker 2: gound enough that you can you can go and you

1:16:44 Speaker 2: can make it. But you're also young enough that if

1:16:46 Speaker 2: you don't get it right now, hopefully it does take

1:16:47 Speaker 2: the worst for you to get it. But I do

1:16:50 Speaker 2: need you to wake it up a little bit at

1:16:52 Speaker 2: some point, you know, rise and shine real quick. But

1:16:54 Speaker 2: it does feel so hard to then pivot from like

1:16:57 Speaker 2: two different shows from that to this Marciano thing.

1:17:01 Speaker 1: This is like the last thing I want.

1:17:02 Speaker 2: To talk about is this Marciano drama from Vanda pum Villa.

1:17:07 Speaker 2: To show that I don't need to watch to understand

1:17:09 Speaker 2: what happened, and you don't need to. You can just

1:17:14 Speaker 2: assume that this Mean is very hungry for camera time.

1:17:19 Speaker 2: Marciano is someone who works at Vana pum Villa and

1:17:23 Speaker 2: he likes skis snowboards in to wherever Layla was.

1:17:31 Speaker 1: She's in like a.

1:17:32 Speaker 2: Summer Coachella outfit and he is wearing a snowboard outfit

1:17:38 Speaker 2: and coming from the slopes.

1:17:39 Speaker 1: Okay, but they are.

1:17:41 Speaker 2: Sitting down to talk about how he had did he

1:17:46 Speaker 2: have a situation with Demmy or not? Because Jenna's saying, Oh,

1:17:51 Speaker 2: you don't want me to tell the girlies and everybody

1:17:53 Speaker 2: else what exactly went down between you and Marciano and

1:17:57 Speaker 2: bandon pum Villa. She's like, absolutely nothing. He may fend

1:18:00 Speaker 2: that said. We see that clip over and over again.

1:18:03 Speaker 2: So Linda said she's gonna go get the true She's

1:18:05 Speaker 2: gonna go get the tea. Why does she get there?

1:18:07 Speaker 2: If she starts talking to him and he's like, yeah

1:18:09 Speaker 2: you want that sy how about this tea? You know

1:18:12 Speaker 2: who I have been fucking Let me tell you, Jesse,

1:18:14 Speaker 2: Yes hurt that right, Miss jay Z styles been stagnling

1:18:20 Speaker 2: me she has.

1:18:22 Speaker 3: That's when I was like, Okay, y'all got it. That's

1:18:27 Speaker 3: when I was like, yeah, y'all got it, because it

1:18:29 Speaker 3: was like, okay, I couldn't get gagged anymore. We're winding down, okay,

1:18:33 Speaker 3: Like you know, we had our drama. You know, I

1:18:36 Speaker 3: know that we're going to end on a cliffhanger, because

1:18:38 Speaker 3: naturally you want to end on a cliffhanger, but that

1:18:43 Speaker 3: it's not something I was expecting. And then like you

1:18:45 Speaker 3: know about how we said earlier on Bonnetfest we were like, oh, baby,

1:18:50 Speaker 3: he didn't know who which one was which because Jesse

1:18:53 Speaker 3: and Demmy looked just to like but then no I hear,

1:18:56 Speaker 3: of course, of course, of course, of course what I

1:19:01 Speaker 3: hear is then.

1:19:03 Speaker 6: Sina, Sina say her it's jes the girl she saw

1:19:10 Speaker 6: her because one thing she was like, oh no, I

1:19:12 Speaker 6: can tell another job between the two.

1:19:14 Speaker 1: I know the girls.

1:19:14 Speaker 3: Of course she got their dumb prints, she got these

1:19:17 Speaker 3: on security number. She she knows everything about everyone. I'm

1:19:20 Speaker 3: sure Sena Shay knows a lot about me that I

1:19:24 Speaker 3: don't want her to know. Sheena is the bone collected

1:19:27 Speaker 3: her and Chara something by them Essa's But anyways, she

1:19:31 Speaker 3: was Shay was hanging out.

1:19:34 Speaker 1: This is orfestrating because Dimmy wanted to orchestrate a favor

1:19:41 Speaker 1: with Taylor's boyfriend Slash Baby Daddy last season and discussion

1:19:48 Speaker 1: and this instead is something that the girl decided to

1:19:52 Speaker 1: do and then blame on Debbi and uh whatever that

1:19:56 Speaker 1: repercussion was what it.

1:19:58 Speaker 3: May well you know what, Okay, hold on pause now

1:20:03 Speaker 3: that you say that I heard I did hear that?

1:20:06 Speaker 3: Remember about like they wanted to set up a storyline

1:20:08 Speaker 3: last season it was a rap or whatever. But the

1:20:11 Speaker 3: way that this is going, do you think that that's

1:20:15 Speaker 3: what Jen is alluding to when she was like, I

1:20:19 Speaker 3: don't want to swing with you guys when she told

1:20:21 Speaker 3: Jesse that because remember when they had that that conversation

1:20:26 Speaker 3: and I'm like, why would you say that? Because she

1:20:27 Speaker 3: didn't eat, Like that was stupid and like that whole

1:20:30 Speaker 3: how about that thing about how she was she was

1:20:32 Speaker 3: she was raising the hood like you're shut your ass up.

1:20:35 Speaker 7: Show the fuck up, right, or someone decided to argue

1:20:41 Speaker 7: with you, queen about whether or not this show was ghetto,

1:20:46 Speaker 7: which it is if you.

1:20:50 Speaker 2: Swold them on how being ghetto or a ghetto show

1:20:54 Speaker 2: is not explicit to black or people of color shows

1:20:57 Speaker 2: at all. They don't own the right to ghetto. This

1:21:00 Speaker 2: has all the makings of a ghetto reality TV show.

1:21:06 Speaker 3: Everything about it. Ri Ip Kirk I cannot so much.

1:21:13 Speaker 1: There's a lot of girl I lived inlay with.

1:21:16 Speaker 3: Me, I cannot have a leave. Kirk passed away. That

1:21:19 Speaker 3: was crazy, But yeah, like ghetto ghetto, ghetto's hell. I

1:21:25 Speaker 3: felt so I felt so good about that because the

1:21:31 Speaker 3: bitches wanted to are you so bad? And she said

1:21:33 Speaker 3: it out her mouth. So anyways, but like when she

1:21:37 Speaker 3: went in there and she was like, oh, I want

1:21:38 Speaker 3: to say this, that and the other, and she just said, oh,

1:21:41 Speaker 3: if this is, you know, in your invitation to swing

1:21:44 Speaker 3: with you, I don't want to do it. I'm like, well,

1:21:46 Speaker 3: why would she say that. So then now that you're

1:21:48 Speaker 3: saying that they had a plan to uh, you know,

1:21:52 Speaker 3: a scheme that Todd set up. Basically, if they had

1:21:55 Speaker 3: that going on, then maybe she's alluding to the Jesse

1:22:01 Speaker 3: and Demy and Bell wanted to plot something and she

1:22:05 Speaker 3: knew about it, And that would be crazy because then

1:22:09 Speaker 3: she can't talk about it because that would be part

1:22:12 Speaker 3: of like breaking the fourth wall in a different way

1:22:15 Speaker 3: that they can't do.

1:22:17 Speaker 2: So beyond even breaking the fourth wall, I think that's

1:22:22 Speaker 2: just something that they're not interested in throwing each other

1:22:24 Speaker 2: under the bus. Yet they collect, they collect, they're they'll

1:22:28 Speaker 2: break it next season if it needs to be broken,

1:22:31 Speaker 2: like Gimbon will be like, uh no, I didn't.

1:22:34 Speaker 1: Start this rumor. Y'all decided to.

1:22:37 Speaker 2: Do this and blah blah blah, and I'll be just

1:22:39 Speaker 2: as gagged then and as if this is true, Oh,

1:22:41 Speaker 2: you know whether or not you know it's producer plan

1:22:44 Speaker 2: or not, because you know, people think Leila's depine producer plan,

1:22:47 Speaker 2: Marciano's thirsty. He's like it was more than a kiss

1:22:51 Speaker 2: because they knew what kiss wasn't gonna be enough. It

1:22:53 Speaker 2: was sex, he says. Sheena says they were making out.

1:22:57 Speaker 2: Jesse denies all of.

1:22:58 Speaker 3: It, but this is the thing, this is the thing.

1:23:01 Speaker 3: Someone said that they saw Jesse in the background. She

1:23:06 Speaker 3: was I think it was she was Instagram poster, she

1:23:09 Speaker 3: was snapchat or something, and Jesse and Marciano were in

1:23:13 Speaker 3: the background of it. And I'm like, I don't know,

1:23:15 Speaker 3: because if that happened, then Bravo fans don't miss nothing.

1:23:20 Speaker 1: Where's the proof watching the story? She always messy, Like

1:23:28 Speaker 1: people still watch that Thane Franco stories. We would find anything.

1:23:32 Speaker 1: I know people who watch who still are We're Bravo Hollis,

1:23:35 Speaker 1: we are still following all the girlis who are still fired,

1:23:37 Speaker 1: like who were fired, and.

1:23:39 Speaker 3: That's why they're so that's why they're also now I'm

1:23:43 Speaker 3: believing this whole orchestrated thing because they know that. Yes, Hulu,

1:23:49 Speaker 3: and you know, everything's blowing up, but at the end

1:23:52 Speaker 3: of the day, ain't nothing like being Bravo famous.

1:23:56 Speaker 2: So and we also need a second controversy because we're

1:24:00 Speaker 2: moving past the Swingers thing.

1:24:02 Speaker 1: Miranda's here, she's back, she's not even yet, but she'll

1:24:05 Speaker 1: try again next season.

1:24:06 Speaker 2: She'll make the cut. Whitney's back in. You know, Demmy

1:24:10 Speaker 2: is out. We need to keep going. And I think

1:24:13 Speaker 2: that because we have ten or however many more episodes

1:24:17 Speaker 2: to come back, like these episodes to like kind of

1:24:20 Speaker 2: extend the story after this rumor. Lets me know that

1:24:24 Speaker 2: that's how they got extra episodes from after this rumor,

1:24:28 Speaker 2: you know, because one thing we know about a sand

1:24:30 Speaker 2: of All or a scandabal rather okay, is that it's

1:24:34 Speaker 2: gonna extend the season.

1:24:35 Speaker 1: Honey.

1:24:36 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, it's gonna revive something that's dying. And this

1:24:39 Speaker 3: wasn't even close to dying exactly exactly.

1:24:43 Speaker 1: So it's never too early for a good one of those.

1:24:45 Speaker 2: And Demmy was probably onto it, but Taylor was like, oh,

1:24:48 Speaker 2: you just hate me.

1:24:49 Speaker 1: I don't understand why. I don't know what I did

1:24:51 Speaker 1: to you, but I'll take a preno grigio.

1:24:53 Speaker 3: You know exactly. Oh god, I love this show so much.

1:24:57 Speaker 2: But watch it and then let's talk about it again.

1:25:01 Speaker 2: I'll text you watch it.

1:25:03 Speaker 3: Hell yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah.

1:25:06 Speaker 2: Okay to piano grigio and watch the Secret Lives of

1:25:08 Speaker 2: Woman Wife season two. It was absolute bananas. Let us

1:25:12 Speaker 2: know your thoughts. Who would you want to bring back

1:25:16 Speaker 2: and who would.

1:25:17 Speaker 1: You not want to bring back?

1:25:18 Speaker 3: I want all of them? Oh no, okay, Macy can go.

1:25:22 Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

1:25:25 Speaker 1: Hilarious.

1:25:26 Speaker 2: I think she is like the epitome of a Mormon wife,

1:25:28 Speaker 2: and I like people who are all in on whatever.

1:25:33 Speaker 1: Like especially if it's the call. I don't know.

1:25:36 Speaker 2: I like when you are the epitome of it, like

1:25:38 Speaker 2: be in it, and she is like, you know, it

1:25:41 Speaker 2: was my sour though. That got my attention. I like

1:25:43 Speaker 2: that she is trying to be the peacemaker.

1:25:45 Speaker 3: She is so Cynthia, right, yeah, she's so kind.

1:25:50 Speaker 2: So she's trying to get everybody to be peacemaker amongst

1:25:53 Speaker 2: each other. What she's petty about a sourdough starter and

1:25:57 Speaker 2: it's like, I probably shouldn't even make it because it's

1:25:59 Speaker 2: going to.

1:25:59 Speaker 1: Be my recipe too.

1:26:01 Speaker 2: I said, oh girl, you are mad about it, and

1:26:03 Speaker 2: that was Loahl it wouldn't lie.

1:26:06 Speaker 1: I don't believe her either. She said it's the other

1:26:08 Speaker 1: way around, said, I think you misremember.

1:26:10 Speaker 3: I think not, because, bitch, you can't even keep your

1:26:14 Speaker 3: eyes on your child and the ICU. I don't think

1:26:16 Speaker 3: you can make a good bread. I mean you can

1:26:18 Speaker 3: make a good fucking wheat bread, bitch, like you definitely

1:26:21 Speaker 3: stole that shit. But you know what, she can stay there,

1:26:25 Speaker 3: I guess. But then I just I don't want to

1:26:27 Speaker 3: see jin. I'm sorry, I just don't want to see

1:26:30 Speaker 3: Jim needs.

1:26:30 Speaker 2: To come back, at least not this season. I think

1:26:32 Speaker 2: she should take some time come back when he's gone.

1:26:34 Speaker 2: You and Leila can go out on the town, be young.

1:26:37 Speaker 1: Single.

1:26:37 Speaker 2: There are a few single moms and mom talking now.

1:26:39 Speaker 2: They're like on trips and stuff. It's like Taylor, Layla,

1:26:42 Speaker 2: Miranda and some other girls who might be auditioning.

1:26:45 Speaker 3: We don't know, yo, we need that there's one more

1:26:50 Speaker 3: girl this summer.

1:26:51 Speaker 1: Single mills for the summer.

1:26:53 Speaker 3: There's one more girl. I think that that's the other

1:26:56 Speaker 3: girl that was involved in the swing because it was

1:26:58 Speaker 3: like three couples.

1:26:58 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, But they're all on a trippy trip.

1:27:02 Speaker 2: So we might be seeing some new faces to the

1:27:04 Speaker 2: show next season.

1:27:06 Speaker 1: But so good luck.

1:27:08 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see that. I would like all

1:27:10 Speaker 2: the ladies to come back, except for Demmy. I think

1:27:13 Speaker 2: she's good to go. Oh, I do I think she's

1:27:17 Speaker 2: I don't think she's she's. I think she's a little

1:27:21 Speaker 2: too reckless. I think she's she will do anything to

1:27:25 Speaker 2: get rid of anybody else. And she's not smart enough

1:27:28 Speaker 2: a producer to me, like, the seasons aren't hidding, and

1:27:31 Speaker 2: it's not because of her like that they are. She's

1:27:33 Speaker 2: not a Kyle to me, which is kind of crazy

1:27:35 Speaker 2: because really, in this situation, Tyler, I mean, Taylor is

1:27:38 Speaker 2: the Kyle, and I don't think Demmy has the right

1:27:41 Speaker 2: or like the foresight to see what's good enough for

1:27:44 Speaker 2: the show to be kind of called these shots in

1:27:46 Speaker 2: season two.

1:27:47 Speaker 1: I don't. I think she needs to be humbled at

1:27:49 Speaker 1: the very point.

1:27:50 Speaker 3: Well, that's why I want her to come back, because

1:27:52 Speaker 3: I want to see her humbled.

1:27:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, but like nobody's I don't know who's gonna check her.

1:27:56 Speaker 2: Taylor read her for filth, made a run out of

1:27:59 Speaker 2: that party at the end of the season, and that

1:28:02 Speaker 2: was great for me and said we don't need to

1:28:04 Speaker 2: see her again, and the girls pretty much agreed. They

1:28:06 Speaker 2: were like, I mean, listen, but the thing is, we're

1:28:09 Speaker 2: not going to be able to to not have to

1:28:12 Speaker 2: be bad because we got to figure out the thing

1:28:14 Speaker 2: on Marciana. Yeah, yes she will come back, but you

1:28:18 Speaker 2: know Jesse, but you know, Jesse will carry it with

1:28:22 Speaker 2: Marciano and Jesse's husband who maybe they're.

1:28:26 Speaker 3: They apparently apparently he got a he got an insured Jesse.

1:28:32 Speaker 3: If you want to not post it, but you can

1:28:35 Speaker 3: send that to me something fight.

1:28:36 Speaker 1: For L Hello, l listen, go ahead, and y'all, so

1:28:41 Speaker 1: I would like to see it.

1:28:43 Speaker 2: Where they can find you and where they can listen

1:28:46 Speaker 2: to your podcast, Black.

1:28:49 Speaker 3: Think, Well, first of all, thank you for having me.

1:28:51 Speaker 3: If you guys don't know, it's literally like it's literally

1:28:55 Speaker 3: almost midnight and we're still like ki king about my wife. Yes,

1:29:02 Speaker 3: I gotta let you go. I gotta let you go.

1:29:04 Speaker 3: I just have so much to say. But yeah, you

1:29:07 Speaker 3: guys definitely it's about to be Bravo Wild Blacks, so

1:29:14 Speaker 3: the brand itself fifth anniversary in June. We've been doing

1:29:18 Speaker 3: this for five years and in June, we're about to

1:29:23 Speaker 3: literally do it big. We're gonna do like a huge giveaway.

1:29:27 Speaker 3: We're gonna have all your favorite people come on. So

1:29:29 Speaker 3: that means, MANI, you're gonna be back on. Kendrick is

1:29:32 Speaker 3: gonna be on, Raven is gonna be on. We're gonna

1:29:35 Speaker 3: have Aaron on two times instead of just like one time.

1:29:39 Speaker 3: Probably gonna Bully Ryan back in then coming on like,

1:29:43 Speaker 3: we're gonna have your favorite guests. We're gonna do a giveaway.

1:29:45 Speaker 3: We're gonna do a giveaway in real life too, to

1:29:48 Speaker 3: show you that we are some generous people over here

1:29:51 Speaker 3: at Bravo while Black, and we're gonna be reposting some

1:29:54 Speaker 3: of our hits, you know, just going down memory lane

1:29:58 Speaker 3: and celebrating this huge milestone because this literally just started

1:30:03 Speaker 3: as something something for us to do during the pandemic

1:30:07 Speaker 3: and something for us to tell a Bravo that people

1:30:10 Speaker 3: of color are watching your shows. And also unfortunately it

1:30:16 Speaker 3: was something that we can we had to speak out

1:30:20 Speaker 3: about George Floyd, which will be five years since he

1:30:22 Speaker 3: was murdered in the streets. So we made this into

1:30:28 Speaker 3: what it is today. We speak out about what we

1:30:30 Speaker 3: feel is right, but we also just want to take

1:30:33 Speaker 3: at least we can make one person laugh once a week.

1:30:37 Speaker 3: We literally, you know, built this out of it and

1:30:40 Speaker 3: it's so great to have you, you know, as one

1:30:44 Speaker 3: of the black founding Bravo podcasting fathers, Like literally, thank you,

1:30:51 Speaker 3: thanks Raven.

1:30:54 Speaker 2: My university is probably coming up soon too. And I'm

1:30:57 Speaker 2: terrible with daves. Y'all need want to know how bad.

1:30:59 Speaker 3: The only the reason that I remembered is because I

1:31:02 Speaker 3: remember that. You know, it's been five years since the pandemic,

1:31:06 Speaker 3: and it's been five years since George Floyd. So our started,

1:31:10 Speaker 3: our page started right after George Floyd. Then we started

1:31:14 Speaker 3: doing podcasts right after George Floyd, and we talked about

1:31:17 Speaker 3: Our first episode was literally about who posted about George Floyd,

1:31:20 Speaker 3: who was at the marches, and who didn't, And that's

1:31:23 Speaker 3: kind of how we were like, you know, moving about,

1:31:25 Speaker 3: and that's how we kind of like got here. And

1:31:28 Speaker 3: now we expanded into pop culture. We're talking about Sex

1:31:31 Speaker 3: in the City, We're talking about Netflix, we're talking about HBO,

1:31:34 Speaker 3: We're talking about a whole bunch of different things, and

1:31:36 Speaker 3: I want you guys to celebrate with us. And I

1:31:39 Speaker 3: just want to thank you for being one of the

1:31:42 Speaker 3: best podcasters out there to show us how to do it.

1:31:44 Speaker 3: Thank you guys for listening, because without y'all, we would

1:31:47 Speaker 3: not be here. And I would like to thank Aaron

1:31:51 Speaker 3: for like being on this journey with me. Even though

1:31:55 Speaker 3: he's not here as often as he used to be,

1:31:59 Speaker 3: it's because he's working. He's very much still a presence

1:32:02 Speaker 3: in my life. That is my twin, that is my

1:32:05 Speaker 3: whole heart. So thank you guys for letting us be

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1:32:30 Speaker 3: a lot of people made it and a lot of

1:32:31 Speaker 3: people didn't make it okay, and it's hard out here.

1:32:34 Speaker 1: I didn't make it a few times.

1:32:37 Speaker 3: Same. No, I fully almost done. But I'm talking about

1:32:41 Speaker 3: in the podcast world, we're still here. Like Gina, I'm

1:32:44 Speaker 3: not Jena. I always saw teacher Cam on Martin. I'm

1:32:50 Speaker 3: listen my favorite still.

1:32:55 Speaker 1: Choreography. Don't even play with me. I don't want to

1:32:57 Speaker 1: do it right now. It'll hurt me in the morning. Listen.

1:33:01 Speaker 2: Thank y'all so much for listening. Kay, thank you so

1:33:03 Speaker 2: much for coming on. I literally love kicking with you.

1:33:06 Speaker 2: I can do it all day.

1:33:06 Speaker 1: I might miss my wife's birthday. Who knows it happened,

1:33:10 Speaker 1: we hope not.

1:33:12 Speaker 3: I every birthday to Money's Life.

1:33:15 Speaker 1: I did not know I started.

1:33:17 Speaker 2: We started around the same time, which makes a lot

1:33:20 Speaker 2: of sense so as to why we all key key

1:33:22 Speaker 2: the way we do.

1:33:23 Speaker 1: Because it's been a mandy.

1:33:27 Speaker 3: Yeah.

1:33:28 Speaker 2: I'm literally looking at my Instagram account right now and

1:33:30 Speaker 2: it tells me the day that I joined because I

1:33:31 Speaker 2: know I joined it when I released my episode on

1:33:35 Speaker 2: what was it a time anchor and one anchor that free?

1:33:38 Speaker 3: Oh my god, such a Spotify.

1:33:41 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, but like og anchor hit Wild Colors. It

1:33:45 Speaker 1: was great.

1:33:46 Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much for listening for all this time,

1:33:49 Speaker 2: new and old. Thank you for being here. Glad you're

1:33:51 Speaker 2: listening to a little something. I hope you enjoyed our

1:33:54 Speaker 2: random discussions about the stupid lives and normal wives. Let

1:33:58 Speaker 2: us know your thoughts and the comments on Spotify. You

1:34:00 Speaker 2: can also rate and review on Apple. If you say

1:34:04 Speaker 2: me words, I won't see them because my therapist said

1:34:06 Speaker 2: I shouldn't look at them.

1:34:08 Speaker 1: So if you can go ahead and try.

1:34:09 Speaker 2: But all it does is just add more tractor for

1:34:12 Speaker 2: me and it doesn't penetrate my thoughts.

1:34:15 Speaker 1: Thanks so much.

1:34:16 Speaker 2: We're trying to keep them light these days because they've

1:34:17 Speaker 2: been dark for a long long time. Thank you so

1:34:20 Speaker 2: nice words only, thank you. Yeah, take care of yourselves.

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1:34:34 Speaker 2: Next week I will be back talking about Bravo. Then

1:34:37 Speaker 2: in the meantime, if you want to hear about my

1:34:39 Speaker 2: thoughts from Atlanta, remember to go listen to Bravo while

1:34:43 Speaker 2: Black because we talked Bravo over there some hot topies

1:34:48 Speaker 2: and that Atlanta episode that was crazy. So what we

1:34:52 Speaker 2: need to do this through some saw Lake City over here,

1:34:54 Speaker 2: more mowis c equalized and Mormon wives over here.

1:34:56 Speaker 1: And because I.

1:34:57 Speaker 2: Couldn't stop thinking about it and we couldn't stop talking

1:34:59 Speaker 2: about it, so go over there for Pravo and then

1:35:01 Speaker 2: I'll be back with Pravo next week.

1:35:03 Speaker 1: And yeah, love you guys.

1:35:04 Speaker 2: Take care of yourselves and pay