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0:00 Speaker 1: Sounds Strauss. Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologists out there. It is your thirl Moni and you are in the mix with MANI a podcast where we talk all things reality TV. We talk Bravo, we talk the Housewives, we talk more of My Wives, we talk reality TV documentaries, true crime, all that and more and the more big Lea today, because y'all keep asking about what I'm watching on the on the Netflix, the Netflix reality show. Y'all know I love If I am not watching Bravo, I love me a Netflix reality show, specifically a reality dating show.

0:48 Speaker 1: And so I've been asked what's going on with the Love Is Blind? Yes, I'll be watching Love Is Blind, and it's just so much to talk about. But I also have finally been put on gutting me through this current season's coverage, like y'all put me on to the Ultra Call podcast, and so I have to have the illustrious, the amazing, the beautiful looking at it right now, Oh the pain of Ultra Call podcasts. Here she talks all and married at first sight, first and foremost, but man, the love shows she gets down, including Love Is Flying, great interviews, great coverage.

1:28 Speaker 1: I had to have you here. Thank you so much for being here today. How are you.

1:34 Speaker 2: I'm good, Mannie. Thank you so much for having me. It's my debut and your show. So excited.

1:40 Speaker 1: Welcome to the mix. Yeah you pop Church Harry on the MiG so you know it's popping in and put it in a contail and take a nice sip or motail if you nasty. I love me a mantel these days. I really am into a mantel.

1:54 Speaker 2: Hey, they said people are drinking less alcohol. That's why Carlo really this soft bar. Listen, no, okay, okay. I think carl Is is gonna make me.

2:06 Speaker 1: I'm i e crow because I did low key joke about it a little bit when he came out with the concept. I was like, I love the mantella too. I love me some juice for bubbles, yes, but a bar, Like that's crazy, carl that's crazy. I kind of want to go. I love a mocktail. I'm really into it right now.

2:28 Speaker 2: I mean we all kind of made fun of it. I mean I think I said, why don't you just do a juice bar. I think the issue is, you know, it's a mocktail, and it's like we're being charged alcohol prices.

2:39 Speaker 1: That's the pot and it's absolutely crazy to me. Like, girl, it's bubbles and juice. I just said that I can do that at home. I do it all the time, y'all. You get you half lemonade, half tea, spin dressed excellent, right, no sugar in it. It's amazing. It tastes like that, right, and it will taste like a front porch, which is like my favorite cocktail. If you're ever in like the Delta the New York or south of New Orleans, a southern area, I love me a front porch. And you get that and you get you some actual sweet tea from like a local you know, store or whatever, or the restaur on your carry out, and you got yourself a montail right there.

3:18 Speaker 1: That's what I like to do on a Saturday night. But now I'm actually like, I would like to go to Carl's situation because now it's about the vibes. It just and I'm less puffy. I can't. I can't deny. Like the girl's little look at a drainage. Okay, she's on biplates and she's drinking mocktails. This is what's happening that she's entering her thirty. It's a shout out. We're at a one month ago, one month away, very excite, and I just like I get it. I see Carl in fact, speaking of love, I just want to want to have had you here today at the Love News.

3:52 Speaker 1: Did you see that, Carl? Apparently it is hard launching allegedly. We don't know, but he said, let us be the first to start with his summerhouse coaster. Oh, she's making a face already.

4:04 Speaker 2: No, it's just I'm glad you said allegedly because these people are doing too much across all the networks, across all the headlines, it's like we can't even digest something and something else happens again. And with Carl it's like, I mean, I wish him all the happiness, but I fully expect him to say it's not going anywhere in two weeks. It seems like Carl gets a high from a soft launch or a hard launch and then he's like, hey, he wasn't working by he did that with Benita just like three weeks. Like stop, So I'm not buying into it until I see like that whole three months or something.

4:47 Speaker 2: So and everyone's doing we need real time everyone's doing stuff engagement now.

4:54 Speaker 1: No, they're so excited that. I mean, like it flooded my algorithm and I really get Carl news. That's really that should tell you something. But people were like, no, Carl launch. I was like, Bailey, wait, Carl wait, And I'm loving Summer House right now. Yeah, good season. And they're out to end up doing an episode about that this this season. That's far pretty soon. But they walked on their TikTok holding hands, holding hands, yeah, in her locked fingers, not one before the other. I mean, some people might say he's not totally buying it.

5:32 Speaker 1: She's like, I want to be a child. I just people really want Carl to date. I do too.

5:40 Speaker 2: I'm wanting to find a good girl. I just don't know if Carl wants it as bad as we do. So that's why we see him holding hands with his coworker and we're like, oh.

5:49 Speaker 1: My god, it's Carl now just kind of like a sober ship a little bit like with the Peter Pan syndrome, like he I don't want to play him your well, yeah, nobody means wants to be with Shepherds. The second charm Swamp is like a different those men are a different breed. I don't know what's going on over there. I don't know how any of that's attracted to anybody. And that's like across the board of Southern charm. Yeah, Farm Beyond. I don't know what's going on over there. Okay, it's one of those cities and I'm looking at that's that that's a group of white people that I have big question marks about.

6:27 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. I'm disturbed. I will not be wanting to visit that. Carl. Sure, I'll go. It is sober, you know, for sober girl. Yeah, I would go there in a heartbeat. And I want to be there, and I want to hang out with Carl and I would love to see him happy. I'm just glad it's you know, him and the Lindsay thing is over and they can be friends and they're in a decent enough place where that happens. But we want them to also them both be happy so they can like maintain that good state and everything.

7:01 Speaker 1: Like you want to see our summer House graduates be in the best place when they graduate, Like, I really don't want any flops, Like Vanda pump rolls that who you know, they graduate. Think about it, they're about the same time. I mean us your summer house in. They brought us in, so we well, you want to see them graduate from the hot mess days that we saw like early early Kyle and Girl days and you know, say with the saucy in them days. But unfortunately many of the Vanda Pump Rules grads have on the flopping Ona side of situations.

7:36 Speaker 1: They're not doing it too hot, so you know, to save a few Katie popping, Arianna doing her bands, you know, some on the Valley, y'all might consider that a success. I don't, but you might. Congrats to Lauren. She hustled, got her she so yeah, she did a thing, sure, and other show Tina did not. So there you go. Maybe we should congradulate because it was all yet.

8:08 Speaker 2: I mean, Sheena said, Shina said she chose not to be on the show, and then she got the executive producer again. I don't know what's true.

8:16 Speaker 1: We got to say allegedly, we don't. So yeah.

8:20 Speaker 2: But another things that.

8:21 Speaker 1: Come out about those fun rules in the Valley, every between the stars and what they allowed and what happened is it changes depending on I think what producers are friends with which, yeah, that's cast member as well to back up that information, because also justice for Katie over there. But I'm sorry, what were you about to say, You're about to spill something.

8:44 Speaker 2: No, I was gonna say, like another reason for us to support Carl is because someone got to do it, because Kyle does not want to be part of it or invest in his friends, so we have to pick up the slack. You know.

8:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kyle's a terrible friend, he's a terrible husband. Amanda is happy to be free. It's I just saw that. I forget which publication did it. I will know by the end of this. I think it was the New York Post, but it was like the Age or the New Yorker. It was like the age of the Bravo is now the age of the divorce a mm, the reality TV is now being run by the defortes. It's the new she and Amanda was like at the center of it because we've all never been happier with somebody. Yeah, to be divorcing, not necessarily because Kyle's that's terrible.

9:33 Speaker 1: We're just happy for her to be rid of that. Now, just go do something else. I think you need to be from up under him.

9:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, they never should have gotten married.

9:43 Speaker 1: They've always like from Jump and they gap and.

9:48 Speaker 2: They don't have the same commonalities, and it was.

9:51 Speaker 1: Just season was hard to watch a good idea knowing they got married at the end. We knew they already had gotten married before that season before it came out, and when it did come out, it was hard to watch knowing that they're already married. So yeah, I hate that for them. So hope, Carl, you're doing well, and I hope day if this is for you, please let us know in two weeks, because don't put it on the TikTok if you don't mean if it, don't if you don't mean it, because the girls are gonna go on a frenzy apparently.

10:21 Speaker 1: Okay, so they got me talking about these nice, friendly, upper middle aged people. You go ahead, Carl. Speaking of Lauren from Utah, I'm.

10:32 Speaker 3: So glad I brought up what that girl is doing because being Lauren from Utah has always been a like anomaker for her, for me to remember why she acts the way she does, why she is not necessarily like the brightest tool, but the very the most vocal and most aggressive about what you know her poor decisions.

10:55 Speaker 1: That must be the Utah in her. And I want to say no shade to other Utah people who listener out there who are not like La La and the other Utah representation we have on the TV right now. But I the representation is so wild that I'm more inclined to say it's not looking good for y'all. What's going on in Utah. I don't know what kind of information I'm going to get on a day to day basis when I wanted to be this has to be fake, right, this has to be a plot. Right then, I'm like, no, I think it's just that trashy, But I think it's just I You watch The Secret Lives of the Mormon Wives, Yes, not the season, but yes, yes you know all the players.

11:44 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes you've seen that they have had They've very unlucky in love of the the last couple of weeks. Really, Yes, lots of changes, lots of things happening between Taylor Frankie Paul losing the Bachelorette because or at least the current season is on pause or fold until they figure out what the heck rights they have. Taylor Franky Paul is not gonna be the Bachelorette. We're not going to see it, So people are like, what's gonna happen next? Where are we gonna get all justice for all twenty nine of those men, maybe that thirtieth who allegedly you know, apparently she got married and engaged too, And we'll never know.

12:24 Speaker 1: We'll never be able to watch that journey and get to wonder what will happened because she ruined it for us. But between that and then we couldn't even digest that good enough and the how many millions she might owe ABC before boom, Jesse and the Little Hobbit man are getting a divorce in The Hobbit five first. Can you believe it? Yes?

12:48 Speaker 2: I can because she I don't know if you got or listened or heard snippets from the Call Her Daddy podcast where she said she told him she wanted to file and he pulled a what is drew from Atlanta's husband Ralph. He ran up to the courthouse and filed first before she did, So that part that makes sense, Yeah, that is so wild.

13:10 Speaker 1: I just think that it's true. My little Hobbit elf behavior bad. Else like Jesse, you you she doesn't have a prenup though I feel I fear about the say she might have to candy it out.

13:23 Speaker 2: You know, I think she did again so much news I can't remember what is or what isn't. I think she said what she had was safe, but it could be candy, like you said. I don't know, but I think I rapped.

13:35 Speaker 1: Out Candy had a prenup. And still somebody say that Todd came out, well, I thought he came out fine. It was okay, like, yeah, you got six of them. That's that's six, that's my car. That's more than half. Okay. You know, I've been honest about my journey trying to get and keep this waste on me nice and snatched. I've been also honest about my use of golp ones to do so, first to manage my type two diabetes, then to help me manage weight loss, especially when I really knew the extra help to get the LB's off was doing the diet, the exercise, but it was just not hitting the marks that I needed it to hit, and so I did actually a golp one shot for four years.

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18:37 Speaker 2: His money. I mean yeah, I mean, I think Candy's at the stage where it's like, what do I need to do? As long as I'm free. It is worth my freedom, so it is meaning. And I'm probably sure that Candy is like, isn't money. I can make more money, so please right?

18:53 Speaker 1: Ye be gone? Four hundred thousand dollars apparently is not going to bankrupt. She's like, I'm gonna be just fine. I got like she has three more projects lined up, like right now. Yeah, multiple things in the works, multiple productions. So happy for her. I think that it was it made sense that it was like, if it was worth her freedom just to be free of that situation and that toxicity every day, then that's what it is. And if you have seen this current season of Secretizing More Mowives, you would see that with Jordan and Jesse had going on in that house.

19:27 Speaker 1: If they didn't get divorce, I would assume somebody because that was hard. They are very toxic and very miserable in their own house anytime that they are together, and that was really hard to watch. And I'm wondering when Jesse, I don't know what the price of your freedom is, but baby girl, you might need to pay it. You might need to write a chat. You can teach another hair course. That's always been the question for me.

19:51 Speaker 2: We know why he's there because he don't work, because he needs money because he's looking for Cloud, But why is she there? I think that's the part. And I wonder if it's the same thing I always say about Taylor Frankie Paul, which is like.

20:05 Speaker 1: She's riddled with a lot of guilt. So I don't know if.

20:09 Speaker 2: Jesse has a lot of guilt and it's just trying to make your work, yeah, for the kids and things like that. And also like the guilt is what's causing everything that we're seeing right now. This is what happens when religion represses women.

20:25 Speaker 1: Yep.

20:25 Speaker 2: And now everyone is acting out because they just never knew in the beginning. Because tell me why she's the only man here because don't forget, Taylor went for him, Layla went for him.

20:38 Speaker 1: Now Jesse.

20:42 Speaker 2: Miranda bad for Miranda, feel bad for her at the last reunion because the way everyone was glossing over the fact that Taylor went on a dato whatever the hell they went on, and the season finale and the way it's shot, it's shot so weird where we can't address it because it's season four, so they're not talking about but it's like this woman is sitting here watching you, and people forget they were the center of the whole swinging thing. It was Chase, its Taylor, it was Miranda, and then she came also admitted he had failing for her.

21:15 Speaker 1: Yes, hello, it calls divorces too. Yeah.

21:19 Speaker 2: So casually she's just like, oh, I went in to day and when then they're flirting with each other and she has to sit there and watch it like it's normal, and I'm just like four with it.

21:30 Speaker 1: Spoiler they do, yeah, they do. They like to play into it a little bit. Producers do him Like, is Chase the only man in Utah? Like I really, I would love to know, And you want to know something. I thought something weird was going on. If you don't know the current controversy, the standout is that Jesse Uh and Chase were called allegedly kissing at some event a party, birthday party. That events a birthday party, And I thought something was weird this past like months, maybe last month, because Chase was Jesse's only spokes model for her new merch t shirt for her little like for her not her little business businesses.

22:16 Speaker 1: This is why she was promoting it. And I'm like, one, I didn't I think I looked at it so many times because the sweatshirt didn't make sense on the front and the back, but I knew it was promo because it had jay Z Styles all over it. And so she said she got a hot ex husband or whatever like that, she got her friend's hot ags husband. She made a reel about this, Yes, and uhuh. And Chase is like just posing in this new sweatshirt that is promoting jay Z Styles or whatever outside of her g wagon jeep or whatever boxy car was.

22:50 Speaker 1: This is literally a month ago, and I was thinking to myself, this is very interesting, like the sin is just very interesting combination, like this get together and to promote your weave business. He's bald and a man. Well, I just don't get it.

23:11 Speaker 2: We just got Rob promoting Sephora, so you know, from the traders, so we know nothing makes sense anymore.

23:18 Speaker 1: I don't.

23:20 Speaker 2: I think, Okay, armchair diagnosis. These women are addicted to not clout, but in some way clout. It's social media, right, that's how they started, you know, get all the stuff and it's all the likes, and it's the acknowledgment is to stay relevant.

23:38 Speaker 1: And now it's like, at what costs.

23:40 Speaker 2: As long as people are still going to be talking about me, that way I can secure my season. We saw a little glimpse of people trying to still be on the season, and it's like, what storyline do I have? So they're doing everything they can and they're okay with it, just so at least people are talking about it. We know that's the case. For the guys like Chase, this is basically like what's his name Slade from OC, Yes, he's like, I got a ticket, who's next?

24:07 Speaker 1: All right, come right this ride.

24:11 Speaker 2: So the guys don't care between dad Talk and whoever else is dating. As long as they can stay on the show, they don't care. But the fact that the women are buying into it is what's so upsetting. But again, it's still a jump scare when it comes on and you see like oh Lailo and Mikayla and it's like twenty three and you're like, oh my god, yes you are still so young. So their frontal lobe is not developed.

24:35 Speaker 1: I literally I don't know. I think I was testing Vanessa from Shout Out to Reality Recap. I was like, you know, if you love Wendy Williams, like I used to watched her down their true journalism queen. She used to say, dumb twenty five and me now no longer being twenty five. My god, do I get it? Because the things that I allowed to be talked to, that ideas that I had about myself and the world were so different, so limited and so like impossible. I can't even imagine having multiple babies do you are responsible for on top of it?

25:19 Speaker 1: Where like also now your bread and butter is because you are married to this man, you know what I mean? So like I like And I say that in reference to Michayla who you know, Jase and her they had a journey separated, probably not anymore, it seems, And that's, you know, her prerogative. She is verrely twenty five years old with three babies and brownie illness that only seems to have any relief when she's proregnant again with a man that we are all more growing more increcently uncomfortable with every day.

25:57 Speaker 1: So just is what it is. But girl sending Miranda flowers because you kiss her husband, it's crazy. You're nut, I say, Oh, bitch, I wouldn't. That's the flowers you throw away? Mary, You don't selling sunset. You don't throw away Chelsea's flowers, who genuinely was scared and sad for you as a mother that you got Robs. Okay, you throw away the flowers In the bit, she was like, I know this, you don't care, but I just feel like I send it anyway. Girl, I'm so sorry you did that for no reason. I'm so sorry.

26:40 Speaker 1: Wan.

26:41 Speaker 2: Some roses shut up, but many Hell no, Like you wouldn't even make the threshold, Like, what are we even doing if I see the card and it's not even coming in? I don't want that bad Jude in my house. No, no, But but it's so absurd that I'm one. You what if they're all in on this together? What if we're all like this, Taylor, Frankie, Paul, this is bad, but mom talks survived this. What are we gonna do? And then they're doing all this together? But I'm just like, Miranda wouldn't go that far?

27:15 Speaker 1: Will shit. I don't think she would because I really think she does not like it when people just think it's okay her Because I've always thought, what if Miranda wasn't done with her marriage? You know what I mean? Because get to remember there was a line that was crossed between two people, and those people were not Miranda and Taylor's ex husband. They wanted they both expressed separately that they wanted to stop, that they wanted to not do the thing. Is part of that, yeah, exactly. And so a part of her me was just like did she want her marriage?

27:51 Speaker 1: Did it just end up having to end because one they started having feelings for each other expressed it at the gym. Trust was betrayed and broken, and that would be a lot. I mean it would be a lot for me too, And it broke up Taylor's marriage. I mean that man her husband. We didn't see that man on the screen anywhere, but TMZ catching him at the courthouse recently. That's it. It's the last first I've seen hi him. So I wonder him like Marena's did what she is doing what she has to do co parenting, But like, I don't think she would want to do this necessarily because I don't know if she would wanted to be not in her marriage necessarily, but we have not seen that yet.

28:36 Speaker 2: I can agree with that. But every time I lean towards Miranda wouldn't be part of this, I remember that she willingly came to be a part of season two. She could easily have stayed away, She could easily have not been part of this, but.

28:49 Speaker 1: She came back and was like take me back please. So was also here then too, and her baby daddy is here. Yeah, just like why did we give the man a pass before we give the woman? I feel like Miranda is also a young and was Taylor's friend. Is of the age of like if she's gonna be able to tell her story and nobody. I also think that I've said this before. The girl is on Utah, especially Miranda. These ex Mormon girlies, they didn't realize how much the rest of us wouldn't give a fuck about their soft swinging.

29:24 Speaker 1: Like that made it interesting, but it was not the talent. It was like, oh so in moral Ah, Whitney freaking like moved away because Connor was caught on the tender or whatever, like she moved up. Like they're so thinking that the world is gonna blow up because Utah would blow up their like white Man snow Town would blow up over the idea of the soft swinging and the multi you know, multi wife husband events and affairs in the Rundown, The tailor members in season two and three or whatever they are, so they thought we would care after this success of season one, they were like, oh, they don't care.

30:04 Speaker 1: We don't. That's why all of the girls who were originally in Mom Talk are no longer and the ones we met in this first season only like two of them are like the original Mom Talk girls. The rest quit thinking that the scandal of the swinging was gonna ruin their reputation, Like yeah, they all dipped out, So I just think that that's it. Pains it's Miranda is like, if there's gonna be a story to be told, it's not gonna be my ex husband and my ex best friend only going to tell it. That's what I'm not gonna do when I can get a bag.

30:38 Speaker 1: Because the girl was craplier than the rest. Yeahst I like that girl, Little Bobbyanna. I like her.

30:46 Speaker 2: Yeah she doesn't have she's good as an entourage, not not enough personality, but she plays her part, you know, as part of the entourage. But it goes back to what didn't see her to be her wife. They're all fueled by guilt in some form or way or the other.

31:03 Speaker 1: It is guilt in some way. Yeah, I do get it, though I come from repressed religion, so I absolutely understand. I grew up in the church and I was you know, oo boy when I grew up in the church. Is putting it lightly real, So I understand it. You know, you barely you barely come out with I can't even say you're wits. You don't you really don't. You just be You don't know if you got your family, because you may not. You know, you may have no family. I had a parent choose me, one not choose the church legitimately, So it's like you know, you have you get I get it in a sense of like yeah, some especially because you know Mickayla her only person she's ever had to be safe is her husband.

31:47 Speaker 1: That's probably really hard to think about leaving at twenty five.

31:51 Speaker 2: So yes, yes, yeah, Lake City. She's still you can still see the repercussions of it still, as with Hooy.

32:01 Speaker 1: She still grapples with it every day. Like you know, it was nice to see her work it, work through it on the you know, surviving Mormonism thing, but like she grapples with it all the time, like it took a Laura a long time. We watched the real time it took the public, also telling her, girl, you are so fine by yourself. We don't care about whatever man who like I may I divorced this big man who we don't know him. We could care less.

32:28 Speaker 2: Sorry to that man, we don't know him. Right, hold up, many, hold up?

32:33 Speaker 1: We like Heather? No, I don't.

32:36 Speaker 2: Okay, absolutely, but between Heather and her husband, we will choose Heather, right, Yes, okay, I just wanted to clarify.

32:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, although no, of course not at all. No, you know, you know long time people know that, longtime listeners of the mix with MANI no, absolutely. I had a shirt called the Block it like don't make the Block Hot, inspired by one Heather Day because I was like that lady made the block hat. Would jin have been arrested that fast if Heather was not on the reunion or did they not have a later date in mind? They had all they needed. When that girl said, I don't know what she's doing, but I'm at town like party, I'm in the chef's table and I'm like, I don't know what it is, but I'm everywhere.

33:24 Speaker 1: I'm like, if you don't shut hell, you was this? She was very pissed say that if if you listen, would they say it could have been you could have taken me. I wouldn't have said that, take me to chowd I'll bet the CH's stable. I don't have no reason to tell nobody I'm there. I got a whole podcast. Won't tell a soul. I will never know. Hey, you know I didn't go there. You go exactly may or may not. So anyways, the girls in Utah, I'll this is maybe. I hope it is just deploy too. Can we survive without Taylor?

34:06 Speaker 1: Because I'd love to, well, what is this whole girl? She took a break, And I do think I would love to look at some houses with Layla over in California, this spinoff that they're talking about so far, at least with Jin and Whitney. Layla also just says she was looking at houses may or may not, but she was playing around with that idea out in California, where the girlies also have migrated. There's rumors, there are talks. I don't even think it's rumors or like this, like that's pretty camera is talking.

34:43 Speaker 1: So that's pretty much. It's about as good as good because they're gonna have some kind of spin off of the show and it's filming.

34:53 Speaker 2: Why are they calling it a spinoff. It just feels like it's the same people but a different location. Because I think I saw Mikayla also saying something about moving to She.

35:02 Speaker 4: Did Orange County already. Yeah, so that that was her release from her husband. They might get back together.

35:16 Speaker 2: They honestly might get back together, because again, like you said, it's very hard to remove that that's the person she's been with since she was sixteen, and couple that with religion, that's a double I was about to say double penetration, but that's not right.

35:32 Speaker 1: That's double double homicide. But that's not right.

35:36 Speaker 2: That's not right, But that's double the stuff that she has to work through. It's like the person that she's been with that has been her person, and then religion and both things are kind of working against her. And it's just like, who's there to help her from that? And now if they're both moving to California, she really has to depend on him, and that's the father of her kids, and that's who she's lean on more So it would be easy to fall back to old patterns. But there's a lot they all need a break.

36:04 Speaker 1: I think they do. I think MICHAELA and Macey right now are some of my favorites. I have a fun time watching them. But I am interested and invested in Jesse's mess Messy Jesse's what I call her, especially if we are getting rid of fucking Jordan's. I'm fine with that, Like, you can be messy Jesse, but I cannot stand in that hobbit. And I do have to caution you when you do eventually get around to watching this current season. He is so insufferable just as a little dean. He's just so annoying because it just feels like he's also he While everybody else is fueled by shame or whatever, Jordan is fueled by like hatred and vengeance against his wife while still married to her.

36:52 Speaker 1: So it feels so uncomfortable, and he's so vocal about it. So it's like, why are you telling all of us how much you Basically it's weird. It's just giving hobbit behavior. And I don't like gremlins, you know, named Jordan, and that's just that's no shame to anything other than him looking like a gremlin.

37:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a classic example of someone married to their ops because really he just hates her. It's the opposite where the women are feel good with guilt and shame, the men are just insecure and then it's coming out and like I'm the man at house.

37:31 Speaker 1: Well go work if that really is it, and if you have to.

37:35 Speaker 2: He's appointed himself leader of dad Talk and he thinks we don't know that he's the one that leaked the tape for Taylor.

37:42 Speaker 1: Come on, please, Jordan, you do so much. And you keep saying that you want to show the girls that dad Talk can survive without them, or that dad Talk is they don't have no, that they don't have a monopoly on the internet. Sir, you here because of them.

38:01 Speaker 2: I need you, and that's never gonna be. That's never gonna change the fact that you were here because of them. If you started this on your own, we would not care. And also, you didn't even give it a different name. You literally had dad Talk. It's not anything different.

38:18 Speaker 1: So nothing original, at leastactly the same. So you cannot do like that, whatever that is that you're thinking of, Mission unaccomplished. It gives the divorce, yes, so it's given. Like the TVs are getting dominated by the divorces unless you are a Love is Blind watcher like I am. Yeah, where the goal is supposed to be made. Okay, so what do you watch Love is Blind for? This is what I like to ask people who watch love reality competition shows like you know, The Bachelor, the Bachelorette, Love is Blind, things like that.

38:54 Speaker 1: What do you watch for? What is your end game? What do you hope for?

38:58 Speaker 2: I'm a fifty to fifty Switzerland person. I want the mess and I want the love.

39:02 Speaker 1: It has to be balanced.

39:04 Speaker 2: It's not gonna be five out of five or however many couples that they're getting. I'm a vet of married at first sight. I've been trained not to expect a happy ending. So no, that's right, I'm just expecting that. Yes, I understand that the show needs to have their mess, but I also would also like to see people like actually, like, you know, oh, what are the odds that we did something this crazy and we found someone. I mean, when you watch the couples that have been together and have kids now, it's kind of like, wow, we literally saw the first time that you met and now you have kids.

39:38 Speaker 2: That's a nice feeling to have. But also the crazy people when we think of the Cuties and the Orange situation back then, like you know, things like that.

39:46 Speaker 1: It's also like entertaining. So I'm a fifty to fifty yeah, okay, yeah, I love that. I'm in a ninety nine for the mess. I really don't need anybody to get married. I believe it in that since Lorn and Cameron pen that thought, but not even just since Lorn and Cameron, since season one period, because also Barnett and what is her Amber? Amber? Thank you? Since then, I really thought that the show had an interesting idea in concept that at the time made a lot of sense being in quarantine, especially that I was like, this could really work, and I really believe that, and I really thought that it could.

40:33 Speaker 1: Then after season eighty two or three, I started to learn that if you watch with the intention of being entertained, you will never be disappointed. If you watch with the intention of feeling that same feeling again of love and happiness of season one, you will Yeah, so don't So I chose to not for the remainder, and so I watch now for the entertainments. And you want to know what every season after I've been proven more righty, I feel like you want to be entertained. You will start out, look at that another season where no one got married.

41:13 Speaker 1: Oh my, it's crazy.

41:16 Speaker 2: I mean it is smart. But I will say one thing though. I know everyone puts Lauren and Cameron on, you know, a pedestal and they were the best. You can't what is it lightning in a bottle twice and you can't get the same feeling that you felt from season one. We didn't know what to expect. We didn't have like a template, we didn't know what it was. It's not gonna feel the same way. But I do feel like it is kind of a dish to the other couples that have made it not you know, season four has the most successful, the Zach and the Blisses, the Tiffany and bread and combing them and then you know all those people.

41:50 Speaker 2: So we do have people that have been successful, but it just feels like, no matter what they do, everyone thinks they're not Lauren and Cameron, and that's it, and they stuck like who are you? Even don't even talk about it. But I do think also it lasts like credit history. You know, it's like they're for every year longer that they stay together and have like oh a baby, oh man, really could work. It's like, wow, another year. It's like all them years in it they got they got behind them a little bit.

42:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, that gives them some stuff. But yeah, I mean I do feel you.

42:22 Speaker 2: The only thing I ask of is I do hate when they break up in the middle of the season. I need you to get to the altar and to their face.

42:33 Speaker 1: Say should contracted?

42:35 Speaker 2: I don't want to because what listen, I'm covering Love is Blind Sweden. Right now we have two couples left two.

42:42 Speaker 1: I don't even know if the two are gonna make it to the I was breaking up, so I don't know. That's not like a whole point. I look forward to the weddings like you want to know they because will they won't say? For me is the entertainment. I love that first run away years ago, even that first season, that first girl that was like I'm just gonna do it. She couldn't do it, and I was like every season after that, it's always been a nice like thrill to be like will they actually say? Yes, I think they might, and then when you think they might, they don't, and then you're even worship.

43:19 Speaker 1: We just haven't had that happen in a while, so I look forward to when I feel those feelings. So y'all know, y'all need to get to that altar. That's so all gay. That's what we're the calls to the altar. Please yes, that should be contractually obligated. It should be the housewives don't talk about the season while filming it on social media, and that the girl he's on Love is Blind About to make it two of the altar in order to tell us if they are going to stay it together or not, even if they thought last night, don't give a shit.

43:48 Speaker 1: Put on the dress, get down there, tell us your friends and family and before God and the law, will you or not? That's what we're all here for. Thank you, and I want to know give me this. It's every time I like it. Also nothing, it's a break. Hello. Who did you have rooting? Who were you rooting for this season of Love is Blind About?

44:11 Speaker 2: To out myself, I was remember Vic and Christine, like I get it, everyone's life, sucker, sucker, you didn't know we were right? Yeah, but I'm not gonna come here and clean like I was smart. It was so bad that I was actually rooting for them and egg on my face.

44:34 Speaker 1: You know it is what it is. So love's not blind, it's God, did you know? According to Listen, it's just that am of a mind of I've seen that dynamic when I watched it on the show. Ye have seen that dynamic play out one time or or few before where I was like, I don't think I'm gonna put all my eggs in this basket. I think I'll reserve some eggs and I'll just leave that basket there. And so I was, but but I'm interested to see how this goes. So maybe I'll put one hard boiled hey that I could give a shit about if I eat it, and I would not eat it unless I am hungry.

45:26 Speaker 1: So I just put it over there, and I just let it sit over there. And then I really thought that y'all had it. I really did. So I don't think they're alone. And that's why I wanted to have you here, because I think a lot of people are feeling the reason why it's so so much outcry that this couple that many were rooting for, you know, shocked people going on the Fox circuit for we don't know what, don't we don't know what or why them lots of questions there, and really, you know, took the evangelical approach of like kind of like almost delivering the point of the experience and and putting a lot on It was a very interesting interview.

46:19 Speaker 1: Uh, and it was something that I think shocked a lot of people who, for whatever reason didn't think they'd take this approach. I mean, if you I saw the through line, I was shocked, and then I saw there mind by the end of it pretty quickly because I keep up with who's in charge of what and where and what NETFLA is doing currently, and I'm like, okay, I just see a pattern. So I'm not shocked. Yeah, that Murdoch documentary was good. I did watch it. I did. Yeah. I just gonna say that, Yeah, I did watch that.

46:52 Speaker 1: And I've heard a lot of people like Age of Attraction. It's it's doing all right. Yeah.

47:01 Speaker 1: I know they couldn't make me either, but people are and people keep sending it to me. Look at it, but just look at this scene mine. It's so funny.

47:10 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, it's like I draw the line. Note I do. I do.

47:17 Speaker 1: I'm an educator, so I'm gonna go ahead and pass on that one. And so I see that. I do know that where they put one documentary that I was looking for that is not in the place that an adult would normally find it. So I know who's in charge what's happening. So I wasn't when you think about it all. By the time she got finished saying that she got on her knees to think to ask God to send her to Netflix. If Netflix is part of my plan, Lord, let me do it. That's basically what she told them, and the lady is just eating it up.

47:54 Speaker 1: You better tell us that God is responsible for you being on the reality TV show. Do you hear yourself again? This is what I mean is someone who grew up in the religions and not even religion. I'm of the it's not a religion, it's a faith. You know kind of time it is offensive sometimes what y'all let come out of your mouths and say and then blame on

48:24 Speaker 1: what I got going on. But God, that's so crazy, Like that's not it. What are you talking about telling me? So, by the time she got done talking about how she was on her knees thanking the asking God if they put it in her plan to go on lover's blind so she can find her husband there. Because that's where you put it. I made the through line and the understanding and the connection of where they're supposed to be and said, okay, yeah, there you go. There's y'all's new. And that's what said, y'alls knew Lauren and Camery we did right.

48:55 Speaker 1: I don't know, I wouldn't.

48:58 Speaker 2: I don't know if I put them in this same situation. I know when Vanessa, I think in the reunion, was like, are you guys like perfect? No fights, no nothing. I kind of agreed with her a little bit where it's just like, there's no relationship that's that you know perfect. There has to be, you know, something in the relationship. Looking at it from the other view, you know, over zealous Christians, you are an expert in that. You just said that you've been through that. And in that regard, it's always like the thought process is God above anything, right, And the excuesday use is just like, you know, I'm not gonna bend away from what God has told me.

49:39 Speaker 2: And you know, even if it means that I'm going to spread the word, you know, to anyone, I'm gonna step into the den and as long as I'm spreading the word, which is fine for them and what you want to live in. Like I said earlier, I'm not lying. I was a fan of Vic and Christine. I didn't see the line I did. I just thought they were to you and maybe because we were starved. Where I think I have an issue on the choice, because it is a choice to go on that network is if we're doing that, let's not pick and choose.

50:16 Speaker 2: If you want to spread the word, don't go on a network that is hateful, that is not aligned with the word.

50:25 Speaker 1: That you speak of.

50:27 Speaker 2: Yes, you think you're doing something good, but there are other ways to do that. You don't have to go there to spread whatever it is that you're trying to spread. I did not watch the interview. It is just clips of what I saw, because again, like I said, I just feel like the choice to go on there. You've done many interviews, a lot of interviews now where maybe zero point zero zero one percent chances like were they forced to do it? I don't think so, But were they forced to do it? That they were the one successful couple and like you said, the people ye are running things that like you have to do this, Maybe that's what it is.

51:03 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I know Vic has been online trying to explain himself away and I don't know that anyone's picking up what he's saying, because at the end of the day, that was a choice, and that was a choice that I know that I felt disappointed in because you know how they're talking about us, and by us, I mean black people. Just in case that wasn't clear. You know how they treat us, you know how they see us. That is not the place you go to change people's minds.

51:32 Speaker 1: I just know it's not, very very clearly and very simply, especially if what your goal is is to spread the word. Going to Fox does not make sense because largely their audience is exactly the people who are nodding in agree like they're they touch an agree. They are already in that same camp. They're in the body. Yeah, I would say, like, so that is it's their it's confirmation bias where you're at, right, and so you're not spreading anything. You're putting your spreading dandy lions like in the field of Dandie lions.

52:08 Speaker 1: So you need to go elsewhere if that is your goal. Yeh, that is your goal. However, I'm like, is that your goal because or where you contractionally obligated because or didn't that to say you had to do this because again, I watched the Murdoch documentary and for those who don't know, Ruper Murdoch is loosely who the show Secession is based off of. I say, Lucie, so I don't get sued, but watching and you tell me it's not because they make all the connections themselves. In the Ruper Murdoch documentary about the creation of Fox News Network, which I see news network as it's full title, though it is not a news network.

52:50 Speaker 1: At court did declare that it is not a news network to make sure that is a fact, because it does not report the news. It is an entertainment channel. That is caveat asterisk. Anyways, up, Murdoch invented Fox. He is if you watch the session, he is that that is Fox, that is the that is the job, and it is literally what I mean. It was the great show for a reason. It was highly relatable. We all understood exactly what was happening. So that documentary coming out recently on Netflix is a multi part, well done, highly produced, very good.

53:26 Speaker 1: No AI people in that one. It was very very good. But and I watched it because I'm interested. I know the story of Ruper Murdock. I like to know the diary. You know, they has a lot of secrets, a lot of stuff about all of them, and that comes out right before and that being one of the number one documentaries are one of the number one things on Netflix's thing. I roll my eyes at that, but you know, I'm not looking at I'm not doing the numbers. But when we all were watching it, I was one of them and the nigga on this you know, Fox interview, which I just thought was interesting because also, what were those ratings?

54:06 Speaker 1: Like Fox and Friends? Really, Netflix can't get you or something with more ratings. There are plenty of shows with more ratings than on Fox and Friends. So it's not giving that it was a marketing push. So it's just given that it's a little bit more specific than that. La. So unless you touched and agreed on that too, maybe y'all really maybe you girly, it's looking like it wanted to be like, yeah, I just want to spread the word and to my jab now I've got them in and so sir, if you need to come to the family, get together and flash a light in your face and take a picture with my flash on you let me know.

54:46 Speaker 2: No, he's he's where he wants He's where he wants to be.

54:50 Speaker 1: And that's the thing. It's not a knock on their religion. They can have their faith.

54:54 Speaker 2: That is not you. You can do whatever you want to do, but it will be do with it no way.

55:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, but knowing knowing the world that we live in.

55:04 Speaker 2: Like just again, like I said, it's a choice, knowing that, Oh, I'm gonna go on Fox and Friends and we're gonna talk about it. There were many thought processes that went through that and for the end result to be, yeah, we're gonna do that. That's so random and so odd. I don't think we've ever had any couple yeah do that.

55:27 Speaker 2: No one's needed the questions had to have Yeah, it had to have been coming.

55:33 Speaker 1: I know.

55:33 Speaker 2: Part of what Vic has said online is like, listen, I'm a black man who voted Democrat, I voted for Biden, I voted for Kamala, and I'm like.

55:41 Speaker 1: Quiet during this interview. Let it talk.

55:46 Speaker 2: So I don't know, it's didn't let it talk. So yeah, So again, it's just everything about it didn't seem organic. Let me put it that way. Yes, it didn't seem organic. It just seemed like again I was saying, why are people saying their plans and everything? And then it was like, you're not helpy with the allegations like this. So yes, it was a choice. And I don't want to say that again, but that's what it was. And I personally, for someone who was reading for them, was disappointed. But for people who saw it.

56:13 Speaker 1: Them all away, ID but they saw them all the way, it still doesn't make The reason that they're celebrating is because like, this was a choice. This was bad. Like it's like, you know, we can all agree now, like wow, poor decisions, poor choices. I don't think that this did the thing that you thought it did or was going to. I don't know what you thought it was going to do. I've actually rapped my brain around trying to figure out what it is that they were thought they most seriously like what we're trying to do, Like what was the accomplishment, like to get what group of people did you want to understand or benefit from accepting your relationship.

56:54 Speaker 5: I guess it just.

56:55 Speaker 1: Spreading the word.

56:56 Speaker 2: I guess the people who again, the people are ready.

56:59 Speaker 1: To lead through Love is Blind on Netflix, but the people a real persons an't even watching Love is Blind on Netflix because this is an abomination.

57:07 Speaker 2: But the people that are trying to turn already believe what they believe on there, right, They're already on that page. So it makes more sense that you were going with this we go on another channel because it's like, oh, we're trying to spread the faith because they think that. But to go and hear everything about this, I don't. I don't understand that makes sense.

57:28 Speaker 1: And I have a really high allergic reaction to things that don't make sense, Like when I can't understand the purpose beyond something, I can't but like I start malfunctioning. It really upsets me so much, like final segue of tonight, the malfunctioning of this season. It's just very difficult, jointed of Beverly Hills that I am having a sixty forty experience with, And I think that's terrible odds for Beverly Hills. Actually I've had worse times. But Tane, you're having a different experience watching this season.

58:10 Speaker 1: What how are you feeling about it? I my different experience is that. I'm not saying it's great.

58:16 Speaker 2: It's still like a little like uh nah, but but it's it's it's I don't feel as bad as everyone seems to feel about it, because I generally feel like the Housewife Show are going through a dip right now, all of them in general.

58:32 Speaker 1: I always say the best shows on Bravo.

58:34 Speaker 2: Are the Nun Housewives Show because they're bringing in and it's just fun. But the Housewives Show, they all seem to follow the same thing. We need to pick on one person and then do it forever. We saw that on Miami, we saw that on Salt Lake. We're seeing this right now. So to me, it's part of course that they're picking on one person. Granted, this one person is.

58:56 Speaker 1: Listen.

58:57 Speaker 2: This one person which is Amanda I ladies, the producers for the casting. She does not fit at all.

59:05 Speaker 1: There is no chemistry, she's not in.

59:07 Speaker 2: Their age bracket, she does not live on Earth, she does not speak Earth language. What was it the they purposely brought her here to be picked on? And now we have mother Kyle out here choosing to be with Amanda. Why and just really like doing too much against dere It's just weird.

59:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, the hurt and Erica gelato and gang up is crazy. That was really with Bananas. I was like, I don't want to watch this. This is fun.

59:37 Speaker 2: Can I tell you, Manny that the whole Erica Kyle relationship is still blowing my mind. I don't know everybody is moved past it. I have not moved past it. My memory is Erica and Renna calling out Kyle and Kyle, hating them so much, and I'm like, where did she become best friends? Because Kyle wants allies, Kyle wants me. Kyle and dried are not getting along because Deity was like, I'm not taking a ship anymore.

1:00:03 Speaker 1: I said this beafer on my show because Kyle bekase

1:00:09 Speaker 1: I wasn't the audience for that. It was not that deep.

1:00:12 Speaker 2: Yes, it was not that deep, like Kyle made it what she wanted it to be. But I said what I said on my show is Kyle became everything she said Lisa Van der Pump was. She said, Lisa Vanda Pump was playing chess and you know, treating her friends like that. You're doing the same thing. So now you're mad at Duri because Durit is like, I'm not doing this ship with you anymore, and now you're like still mad. Kyle sees herself losing her grip. I'm just gonna tell you, guys, Kyle really gets on my nerves.

1:00:42 Speaker 2: Like Kyle annoys me because Kyle case.

1:00:47 Speaker 1: Down a.

1:00:48 Speaker 2: See, Kyle's identity is like, oh, I'm a mom, I'm a wife. She's lost both things now. Not she's still a mom, don't get me wrong, but she's an empty nester and she doesn't know who she is and she's just like grappling right now and then seeing like, listen, there are people who love Kyle, but you know, people are just like, what is.

1:01:09 Speaker 1: Kyle still doing here? Why is she here?

1:01:10 Speaker 2: Kyle cannot stand to not be liked, so all this going on, She's just trying to figure all this out, and it's just a hot mess. That whole season when she had her friend who did not want to be named on the show. Wait, I'm sorry her friend who wanted to be named, she wanted to get a tattooed with and then they did a video teasing us.

1:01:30 Speaker 1: But I'm sorry.

1:01:31 Speaker 2: They don't want to be mentioned at all, and they don't want people to know that they're.

1:01:38 Speaker 1: They're a gay in their industry. But we did a music video. Okay.

1:01:43 Speaker 2: I don't know how Kyle didn't know that she was using her for clout.

1:01:47 Speaker 1: I just it was so obvious. But hey, what do I know?

1:01:50 Speaker 2: Anyways?

1:01:53 Speaker 1: Oh, I've found that new for germ. Y'all Betty gets sick of me. I'm asking Sern anytime she's available, you never to do next season, y'all available, dratile, That's all I ever want to do because I don't understand how y'all see this girl. I just she's not consistent.

1:02:11 Speaker 2: Last season, she said Duri and I were not really friends, like that we went on one trip.

1:02:16 Speaker 1: This episode, I believe he said me, myself and Erica are the closest to Dureid. I'm like, huh, and why is that true? If you also are saying that you're close to p K, that's why you were texting him and not not texting him, Like, well, William p K are really close? How are you that close if he's not your really close friend's husband. You know what I'm saying. So I think I don't text my non close friends husband's. That don't make no sense.

1:02:50 Speaker 2: I think d phrased it very well like far b it for me to support Dure, but I'm I'm team Durit on this one where she says, I I don't know why you're having a really hard time supporting me, and I'm like that that ding ding ding, That's just what it is. It doesn't matter what it is. Kyle just can't just shut up and be like, you know what, I don't even care if you're wrong. You're going through a hard time. I'm on your side. That's all because she's nickpicking about everything. She's like, oh, she's spending too much money.

1:03:20 Speaker 2: Oh she's doing this. And again Deury brings up a good point.

1:03:23 Speaker 1: Kyle.

1:03:23 Speaker 2: You stop drinking, you started working out, you were eating clean, you were doing all that. No one said, hey, you're being weird. Why are you doing all this stuff. It was a change in your life. That was how you chose to deal with it. Because, yes, being late is annoying. I will always support that. But that's how Dey has always been. But even if she's doing all of these things, she's going through a hard time. Now if this is one year later, we're still doing this.

1:03:49 Speaker 5: Everyone's been through that. Erica went through this, like I just Kyles, Yeah, that was ridiculous.

1:04:01 Speaker 1: And was if you have basically done your entire this entire season, making me want to fast forward through the not so I don't throw up, because you're having such a lot a jolly good time being separated. It's just going so well. You're not bothered. Mo's not bothered. The girls are fine, You're fine. You're getting makeup towels for the hood, for the hoes to come and wipe the makeup off there. You're like, okay, got it. You're getting pillows, like okay, you're having a beautiful time. So for her to be like I'm separated and you don't see me changing everything about you could kiss my ass.

1:04:36 Speaker 1: She was very glad to see Dre give Kyle a harder time this episode than normal than usual, Like she gives her all enough time this season, but this was just like I'm gonna go ahead and told Erica you're gonna wait because I can only handle one at a time if I'm gonna do this right. And so she gave Kyle the business and she let her know and like Kyle is upset it through this go around because she won't let her nippick and criticize Deiy, like won't let Kyle nickpick her the way she will let or apparently accept criticisms or feedback from other people like Bouse or Rachel and to Dari shuts that down real quickly because Kyle brings it up like four times, and I was like, you're annoyed me.

1:05:25 Speaker 1: She seems mad about it.

1:05:28 Speaker 2: She's like, oh, like Bose are best friends or whatever the heck they want to say. I'm like, yeah, have you seen your behavior towards her? Why would she think you.

1:05:37 Speaker 1: Trust me? Except for the whole time we spent last season about the text messaging and whatnot, And when she told you she don't trust you, I remember that I was there. And then now you're like when you and Bose get so close, when me and you did not when we fell out, because you don't you're mean and you seem to want to be mad at me for whatever and not support me. And if I have to say you don't support me, you're having a really hard time supporting me. I don't think that you should be asking you get to ask me why I don't trust you to give me criticism or feedback.

1:06:10 Speaker 1: I don't think it's coming from a good place, Like you're mad that you're like, well, Amanda, you're talking about me behind my back. Literally, every time I hear about how you feel about me, it's from somebody else. That's not nice.

1:06:24 Speaker 2: You know what, I think Kylo is mad at I think she's mad that the newbies are coming and gravitating towards Durret and not taking her side because bos came on and then went with Dere and thinks like she's the best thing ever. Rachel is now on, thinks that Dured is the best thing ever. And Kyle is just like, how why not?

1:06:42 Speaker 1: Because Rachel's also going through a divorce and it's not cute, it's it's messy, and it's a man who wants to be out imputed in the swing and stick around and do whatever, and doesn't have any regard for her feelings. That it's like bad kids, and Rachel is going through something similar, and Kyle is like, no, Kyle, you just started to brand yourself as the most perfect separated person on earth to spight deried. You couldn't bank on the fact that a cooler hip or Nubi was gonna come on the show who's also good and divorced and was going to identify with guess what not that, because that's not most a lot of people's experience.

1:07:19 Speaker 1: You're very, very blessed. We know. Well.

1:07:22 Speaker 2: I think the thing is Durit and Rachel are honest about it. I don't think Kyle is being honest. Kyle thinks that deep down, she thinks she and Mo are going to get back together, that man does not want to get back together. She thinks hers is going to be different, and I'm like, it's not like you better face reality, and for her.

1:07:41 Speaker 1: Sake, I hope he doesn't read ugly.

1:07:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope he doesn't get ugly, because then the truth is gonna come out. Because even before the separation, right, she Durita is right, he presented like everything was perfect and then whatever happened. And then now you're like, oh, we're getting a separation. So now if things turn up, because she thinks is not gonna do her dirty, but I think she forgets that don't pay with his money.

1:08:04 Speaker 1: He does not know you don't and he's not going to separate from it like number one real estate agency, like globally he's doing that thing. He is not. I don't know what you think this is, but he wants to go out and have fun, so you might want to figure it out. I don't want to get yourself on one of them through the LGBTQ than one of them, bigger ticket community girl's fangil horizons. While he's having his fun, you have yours. I would say, go back in, renegotiate the terms, be happier. He can stop being means of your friends.

1:08:41 Speaker 2: And that's the thing. If Kyle just was herself. Kyle is a backbitch in her own right, a star. She's an she's the og of the Beverly Hills like you have. You are not tied to mold by any means, like I think more people know who she is.

1:09:00 Speaker 1: Is then mo so honestly, honestly because Mauricio is Kyle's husband, yes, so I wish you would just lean into it and you just see it's big because Mauricio is Kyle's husband. But you didn't hear that from me.

1:09:18 Speaker 2: So all this is just I don't know. I don't know what's happening, but it's unfortunately I don't know.

1:09:24 Speaker 1: But listen, listen, Kyle, You've never looked worse. It always goes downhill for you, and I think you made a very good point and came about how it's it really is giving lusavand the pump and how everything you got on her that faithful day. We are in your kitchen, babes. This is that moment. We are in your kitchen, around that you know counter, around that that island, and it's about to be goodbye to read. Okay, but a goodbye Kyle, because it's it's not given what you think it's giving. I don't like watching this version of her a friend and only like look on allies and choosing Erica of all allies, the gold legos pol She don't got a soul, there's nothing there.

1:10:07 Speaker 1: This is Erica's paycheck, Eric, Like, who do I need to She's hanging on what she needed to do today. By she's a good shift. She's a good shift girl. But you know, floater, Erica, floater, they'll produce. Like, Okay, so today we need you to be with Pile. You're gonna go get ice cream with you, Red and you're gonna air some grievances. Okay, gotcha and like love that for her. Come on, get a bag Tane, thank you so much for being here. Everything's talking with me today about all of this mess. These we watched.

1:10:41 Speaker 1: There are some wild women on TV having a bomb ass time now again. And you said, you mentioned that, you know, the shows that are not house Us on Bravo are absolutely you know where it's at right now. What shows are you watching?

1:10:59 Speaker 2: Southern Has Fatality, Summer House, Top Chef, Ladies of London, so all of them, honestly, all the shows on Bravo that are not Housewives, I'm watching them below Deck down Under.

1:11:12 Speaker 1: I'm on it, so yeah, excellent. And what are you covering right now on your podcast?

1:11:18 Speaker 2: On my podcast right now, I am covering Love is Blind Sweden. We're wrapping it up with the weddings coming up. And I am covering Welcome to Platfield that's going to be starting next week, so checking that out. And if you want any documentaries, you can check out the Patreon, Patreon dot com.

1:11:37 Speaker 1: Sash also called.

1:11:38 Speaker 2: M AFS recently just covered Inside the Menosphere, so.

1:11:42 Speaker 1: You can check you guys. Love that all right, y'all, thank you so much for listening. You know where to find me on all the things at mixing with MANI M I X I G W I T H M A N I And it's always you know, take care of yourself and at least somebody else. If you can't know do your best, stay in the house. Guess is astronomical? Can you bring yourself? Love you, babe,