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0:00 Speaker 1: Sounds Strauss. Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologists out there.

0:14 Speaker 1: It is your thirl Moni and you are in the

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0:33 Speaker 1: Lea today, because y'all keep asking about what I'm watching

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0:44 Speaker 1: love me a Netflix reality show, specifically a reality dating show.

0:48 Speaker 1: And so I've been asked what's going on with the

0:50 Speaker 1: Love Is Blind? Yes, I'll be watching Love Is Blind,

0:54 Speaker 1: and it's just so much to talk about. But I

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1:23 Speaker 1: the love shows she gets down, including Love Is Flying,

1:27 Speaker 1: great interviews, great coverage. I had to have you here.

1:30 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here today. How are you.

1:34 Speaker 2: I'm good, Mannie. Thank you so much for having me.

1:36 Speaker 2: It's my debut and your show. So excited.

1:40 Speaker 1: Welcome to the mix. Yeah you pop Church Harry on

1:43 Speaker 1: the MiG so you know it's popping in and put

1:46 Speaker 1: it in a contail and take a nice sip or

1:49 Speaker 1: motail if you nasty. I love me a mantel these days.

1:52 Speaker 1: I really am into a mantel.

1:54 Speaker 2: Hey, they said people are drinking less alcohol. That's why

1:57 Speaker 2: Carlo really this soft bar. Listen, no, okay, okay. I

2:04 Speaker 2: think carl Is is gonna make me.

2:06 Speaker 1: I'm i e crow because I did low key joke

2:10 Speaker 1: about it a little bit when he came out with

2:12 Speaker 1: the concept. I was like, I love the mantella too.

2:15 Speaker 1: I love me some juice for bubbles, yes, but a bar,

2:19 Speaker 1: Like that's crazy, carl that's crazy. I kind of want

2:24 Speaker 1: to go. I love a mocktail. I'm really into it

2:27 Speaker 1: right now.

2:28 Speaker 2: I mean we all kind of made fun of it.

2:30 Speaker 2: I mean I think I said, why don't you just

2:32 Speaker 2: do a juice bar. I think the issue is, you know,

2:35 Speaker 2: it's a mocktail, and it's like we're being charged alcohol prices.

2:39 Speaker 1: That's the pot and it's absolutely crazy to me. Like, girl,

2:43 Speaker 1: it's bubbles and juice. I just said that I can

2:46 Speaker 1: do that at home. I do it all the time, y'all.

2:49 Speaker 1: You get you half lemonade, half tea, spin dressed excellent, right,

2:54 Speaker 1: no sugar in it. It's amazing. It tastes like that, right,

2:58 Speaker 1: and it will taste like a front porch, which is

2:59 Speaker 1: like my favorite cocktail. If you're ever in like the

3:02 Speaker 1: Delta the New York or south of New Orleans, a

3:05 Speaker 1: southern area, I love me a front porch. And you

3:08 Speaker 1: get that and you get you some actual sweet tea

3:12 Speaker 1: from like a local you know, store or whatever, or

3:15 Speaker 1: the restaur on your carry out, and you got yourself

3:17 Speaker 1: a montail right there. That's what I like to do

3:19 Speaker 1: on a Saturday night. But now I'm actually like, I

3:21 Speaker 1: would like to go to Carl's situation because now it's

3:25 Speaker 1: about the vibes. It just and I'm less puffy. I can't.

3:28 Speaker 1: I can't deny. Like the girl's little look at a drainage. Okay,

3:34 Speaker 1: she's on biplates and she's drinking mocktails. This is what's

3:38 Speaker 1: happening that she's entering her thirty. It's a shout out.

3:40 Speaker 1: We're at a one month ago, one month away, very excite,

3:44 Speaker 1: and I just like I get it. I see Carl

3:47 Speaker 1: in fact, speaking of love, I just want to want

3:50 Speaker 1: to have had you here today at the Love News.

3:52 Speaker 1: Did you see that, Carl? Apparently it is hard launching allegedly.

3:56 Speaker 1: We don't know, but he said, let us be the

3:59 Speaker 1: first to start with his summerhouse coaster. Oh, she's making

4:03 Speaker 1: a face already.

4:04 Speaker 2: No, it's just I'm glad you said allegedly because these

4:09 Speaker 2: people are doing too much across all the networks, across

4:14 Speaker 2: all the headlines, it's like we can't even digest something

4:18 Speaker 2: and something else happens again. And with Carl it's like,

4:22 Speaker 2: I mean, I wish him all the happiness, but I

4:25 Speaker 2: fully expect him to say it's not going anywhere in

4:28 Speaker 2: two weeks. It seems like Carl gets a high from

4:33 Speaker 2: a soft launch or a hard launch and then he's like, hey,

4:36 Speaker 2: he wasn't working by he did that with Benita just

4:39 Speaker 2: like three weeks. Like stop, So I'm not buying into

4:43 Speaker 2: it until I see like that whole three months or something.

4:47 Speaker 2: So and everyone's doing we need real time everyone's doing

4:52 Speaker 2: stuff engagement now.

4:54 Speaker 1: No, they're so excited that. I mean, like it flooded

4:58 Speaker 1: my algorithm and I really get Carl news. That's really

5:02 Speaker 1: that should tell you something. But people were like, no,

5:05 Speaker 1: Carl launch. I was like, Bailey, wait, Carl wait, And

5:09 Speaker 1: I'm loving Summer House right now. Yeah, good season. And

5:13 Speaker 1: they're out to end up doing an episode about that

5:16 Speaker 1: this this season. That's far pretty soon. But they walked

5:20 Speaker 1: on their TikTok holding hands, holding hands, yeah, in her

5:25 Speaker 1: locked fingers, not one before the other. I mean, some

5:28 Speaker 1: people might say he's not totally buying it. She's like,

5:33 Speaker 1: I want to be a child. I just people really

5:37 Speaker 1: want Carl to date. I do too.

5:40 Speaker 2: I'm wanting to find a good girl. I just don't

5:43 Speaker 2: know if Carl wants it as bad as we do.

5:45 Speaker 2: So that's why we see him holding hands with his

5:48 Speaker 2: coworker and we're like, oh.

5:49 Speaker 1: My god, it's Carl now just kind of like a

5:53 Speaker 1: sober ship a little bit like with the Peter Pan syndrome,

5:57 Speaker 1: like he I don't want to play him your well, yeah,

6:02 Speaker 1: nobody means wants to be with Shepherds. The second charm

6:06 Speaker 1: Swamp is like a different those men are a different breed.

6:09 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on over there. I don't

6:11 Speaker 1: know how any of that's attracted to anybody. And that's

6:13 Speaker 1: like across the board of Southern charm. Yeah, Farm Beyond.

6:18 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on over there. Okay, it's

6:21 Speaker 1: one of those cities and I'm looking at that's that

6:23 Speaker 1: that's a group of white people that I have big

6:25 Speaker 1: question marks about. I don't know what's going on. I'm disturbed.

6:30 Speaker 1: I will not be wanting to visit that. Carl. Sure,

6:34 Speaker 1: I'll go. It is sober, you know, for sober girl. Yeah,

6:42 Speaker 1: I would go there in a heartbeat. And I want

6:44 Speaker 1: to be there, and I want to hang out with

6:45 Speaker 1: Carl and I would love to see him happy. I'm

6:49 Speaker 1: just glad it's you know, him and the Lindsay thing

6:51 Speaker 1: is over and they can be friends and they're in

6:53 Speaker 1: a decent enough place where that happens. But we want

6:57 Speaker 1: them to also them both be happy so they can

6:59 Speaker 1: like maintain that good state and everything. Like you want

7:02 Speaker 1: to see our summer House graduates be in the best

7:04 Speaker 1: place when they graduate, Like, I really don't want any flops,

7:07 Speaker 1: Like Vanda pump rolls that who you know, they graduate.

7:11 Speaker 1: Think about it, they're about the same time. I mean

7:15 Speaker 1: us your summer house in. They brought us in, so

7:18 Speaker 1: we well, you want to see them graduate from the

7:22 Speaker 1: hot mess days that we saw like early early Kyle

7:25 Speaker 1: and Girl days and you know, say with the saucy

7:28 Speaker 1: in them days. But unfortunately many of the Vanda Pump

7:31 Speaker 1: Rules grads have on the flopping Ona side of situations.

7:36 Speaker 1: They're not doing it too hot, so you know, to

7:40 Speaker 1: save a few Katie popping, Arianna doing her bands, you know,

7:46 Speaker 1: some on the Valley, y'all might consider that a success.

7:50 Speaker 1: I don't, but you might. Congrats to Lauren. She hustled,

7:56 Speaker 1: got her she so yeah, she did a thing, sure,

7:59 Speaker 1: and other show Tina did not. So there you go.

8:02 Speaker 1: Maybe we should congradulate because it was all yet.

8:08 Speaker 2: I mean, Sheena said, Shina said she chose not to

8:11 Speaker 2: be on the show, and then she got the executive

8:13 Speaker 2: producer again. I don't know what's true.

8:16 Speaker 1: We got to say allegedly, we don't. So yeah.

8:20 Speaker 2: But another things that.

8:21 Speaker 1: Come out about those fun rules in the Valley, every

8:26 Speaker 1: between the stars and what they allowed and what happened

8:30 Speaker 1: is it changes depending on I think what producers are

8:33 Speaker 1: friends with which, yeah, that's cast member as well to

8:37 Speaker 1: back up that information, because also justice for Katie over there.

8:40 Speaker 1: But I'm sorry, what were you about to say, You're

8:42 Speaker 1: about to spill something.

8:44 Speaker 2: No, I was gonna say, like another reason for us

8:46 Speaker 2: to support Carl is because someone got to do it,

8:49 Speaker 2: because Kyle does not want to be part of it

8:52 Speaker 2: or invest in his friends, so we have to pick

8:54 Speaker 2: up the slack. You know.

8:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kyle's a terrible friend, he's a terrible husband. Amanda

9:01 Speaker 1: is happy to be free. It's I just saw that.

9:04 Speaker 1: I forget which publication did it. I will know by

9:07 Speaker 1: the end of this. I think it was the New

9:08 Speaker 1: York Post, but it was like the Age or the

9:10 Speaker 1: New Yorker. It was like the age of the Bravo

9:14 Speaker 1: is now the age of the divorce a mm, the

9:18 Speaker 1: reality TV is now being run by the defortes. It's

9:22 Speaker 1: the new she and Amanda was like at the center

9:25 Speaker 1: of it because we've all never been happier with somebody. Yeah,

9:30 Speaker 1: to be divorcing, not necessarily because Kyle's that's terrible. We're

9:34 Speaker 1: just happy for her to be rid of that. Now,

9:38 Speaker 1: just go do something else. I think you need to

9:40 Speaker 1: be from up under him.

9:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, they never should have gotten married.

9:43 Speaker 1: They've always like from Jump and they gap and.

9:48 Speaker 2: They don't have the same commonalities, and it was.

9:51 Speaker 1: Just season was hard to watch a good idea knowing

9:54 Speaker 1: they got married at the end. We knew they already

9:57 Speaker 1: had gotten married before that season before it came out,

10:01 Speaker 1: and when it did come out, it was hard to

10:03 Speaker 1: watch knowing that they're already married. So yeah, I hate

10:07 Speaker 1: that for them. So hope, Carl, you're doing well, and

10:11 Speaker 1: I hope day if this is for you, please let

10:14 Speaker 1: us know in two weeks, because don't put it on

10:16 Speaker 1: the TikTok if you don't mean if it, don't if

10:18 Speaker 1: you don't mean it, because the girls are gonna go

10:20 Speaker 1: on a frenzy apparently. Okay, so they got me talking

10:23 Speaker 1: about these nice, friendly, upper middle aged people. You go ahead, Carl.

10:30 Speaker 1: Speaking of Lauren from Utah, I'm.

10:32 Speaker 3: So glad I brought up what that girl is doing

10:34 Speaker 3: because being Lauren from Utah has always been a like

10:41 Speaker 3: anomaker for her, for me to remember why she acts

10:44 Speaker 3: the way she does, why she is not necessarily like

10:48 Speaker 3: the brightest tool, but the very the most vocal and

10:51 Speaker 3: most aggressive about what you know her poor decisions.

10:55 Speaker 1: That must be the Utah in her. And I want

10:57 Speaker 1: to say no shade to other Utah people who listener

11:00 Speaker 1: out there who are not like La La and the

11:03 Speaker 1: other Utah representation we have on the TV right now.

11:06 Speaker 1: But I the representation is so wild that I'm more

11:10 Speaker 1: inclined to say it's not looking good for y'all. What's

11:17 Speaker 1: going on in Utah. I don't know what kind of

11:22 Speaker 1: information I'm going to get on a day to day

11:24 Speaker 1: basis when I wanted to be this has to be fake, right,

11:29 Speaker 1: this has to be a plot. Right then, I'm like, no,

11:32 Speaker 1: I think it's just that trashy, But I think it's

11:35 Speaker 1: just I You watch The Secret Lives of the Mormon Wives, Yes,

11:41 Speaker 1: not the season, but yes, yes you know all the players. Yes, yes,

11:45 Speaker 1: yes you've seen that they have had They've very unlucky

11:49 Speaker 1: in love of the the last couple of weeks. Really, Yes,

11:53 Speaker 1: lots of changes, lots of things happening between Taylor Frankie

11:57 Speaker 1: Paul losing the Bachelorette because or at least the current

12:01 Speaker 1: season is on pause or fold until they figure out

12:05 Speaker 1: what the heck rights they have. Taylor Franky Paul is

12:10 Speaker 1: not gonna be the Bachelorette. We're not going to see it,

12:12 Speaker 1: So people are like, what's gonna happen next? Where are

12:15 Speaker 1: we gonna get all justice for all twenty nine of

12:17 Speaker 1: those men, maybe that thirtieth who allegedly you know, apparently

12:21 Speaker 1: she got married and engaged too, And we'll never know.

12:24 Speaker 1: We'll never be able to watch that journey and get

12:29 Speaker 1: to wonder what will happened because she ruined it for us.

12:31 Speaker 1: But between that and then we couldn't even digest that

12:34 Speaker 1: good enough and the how many millions she might owe

12:37 Speaker 1: ABC before boom, Jesse and the Little Hobbit man are

12:42 Speaker 1: getting a divorce in The Hobbit five first. Can you

12:47 Speaker 1: believe it? Yes?

12:48 Speaker 2: I can because she I don't know if you got

12:51 Speaker 2: or listened or heard snippets from the Call Her Daddy

12:54 Speaker 2: podcast where she said she told him she wanted to

12:57 Speaker 2: file and he pulled a what is drew from Atlanta's

13:00 Speaker 2: husband Ralph. He ran up to the courthouse and filed

13:04 Speaker 2: first before she did, So that part that makes sense, Yeah,

13:08 Speaker 2: that is so wild.

13:10 Speaker 1: I just think that it's true. My little Hobbit elf

13:12 Speaker 1: behavior bad. Else like Jesse, you you she doesn't have

13:19 Speaker 1: a prenup though I feel I fear about the say

13:21 Speaker 1: she might have to candy it out.

13:23 Speaker 2: You know, I think she did again so much news

13:26 Speaker 2: I can't remember what is or what isn't. I think

13:29 Speaker 2: she said what she had was safe, but it could

13:33 Speaker 2: be candy, like you said. I don't know, but I

13:35 Speaker 2: think I rapped.

13:35 Speaker 1: Out Candy had a prenup. And still somebody say that

13:41 Speaker 1: Todd came out, well, I thought he came out fine.

13:46 Speaker 1: It was okay, like, yeah, you got six of them.

13:49 Speaker 1: That's that's six, that's my car. That's more than half. Okay.

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18:27 Speaker 1: your support. Mm hmm. I think okay, I think he

18:33 Speaker 1: came out one. If all things considered, it's not his.

18:37 Speaker 2: His money. I mean yeah, I mean, I think Candy's

18:41 Speaker 2: at the stage where it's like, what do I need

18:43 Speaker 2: to do? As long as I'm free. It is worth

18:45 Speaker 2: my freedom, so it is meaning. And I'm probably sure

18:48 Speaker 2: that Candy is like, isn't money. I can make more money,

18:52 Speaker 2: so please right?

18:53 Speaker 1: Ye be gone? Four hundred thousand dollars apparently is not

18:59 Speaker 1: going to bankrupt. She's like, I'm gonna be just fine.

19:03 Speaker 1: I got like she has three more projects lined up,

19:05 Speaker 1: like right now. Yeah, multiple things in the works, multiple productions.

19:09 Speaker 1: So happy for her. I think that it was it

19:12 Speaker 1: made sense that it was like, if it was worth

19:13 Speaker 1: her freedom just to be free of that situation and

19:16 Speaker 1: that toxicity every day, then that's what it is. And

19:20 Speaker 1: if you have seen this current season of Secretizing More Mowives,

19:24 Speaker 1: you would see that with Jordan and Jesse had going

19:26 Speaker 1: on in that house. If they didn't get divorce, I

19:29 Speaker 1: would assume somebody because that was hard. They are very

19:33 Speaker 1: toxic and very miserable in their own house anytime that

19:37 Speaker 1: they are together, and that was really hard to watch.

19:40 Speaker 1: And I'm wondering when Jesse, I don't know what the

19:42 Speaker 1: price of your freedom is, but baby girl, you might

19:44 Speaker 1: need to pay it. You might need to write a chat.

19:47 Speaker 1: You can teach another hair course. That's always been the

19:50 Speaker 1: question for me.

19:51 Speaker 2: We know why he's there because he don't work, because

19:53 Speaker 2: he needs money because he's looking for Cloud, But why

19:56 Speaker 2: is she there? I think that's the part. And I

19:59 Speaker 2: wonder if it's the same thing I always say about

20:03 Speaker 2: Taylor Frankie Paul, which is like.

20:05 Speaker 1: She's riddled with a lot of guilt. So I don't

20:08 Speaker 1: know if.

20:09 Speaker 2: Jesse has a lot of guilt and it's just trying

20:11 Speaker 2: to make your work, yeah, for the kids and things

20:15 Speaker 2: like that. And also like the guilt is what's causing

20:19 Speaker 2: everything that we're seeing right now. This is what happens

20:21 Speaker 2: when religion represses women.

20:25 Speaker 1: Yep.

20:25 Speaker 2: And now everyone is acting out because they just never

20:29 Speaker 2: knew in the beginning. Because tell me why she's the

20:32 Speaker 2: only man here because don't forget, Taylor went for him,

20:36 Speaker 2: Layla went for him.

20:38 Speaker 1: Now Jesse.

20:42 Speaker 2: Miranda bad for Miranda, feel bad for her at the

20:45 Speaker 2: last reunion because the way everyone was glossing over the

20:49 Speaker 2: fact that Taylor went on a dato whatever the hell

20:52 Speaker 2: they went on, and the season finale and the way

20:55 Speaker 2: it's shot, it's shot so weird where we can't address

20:58 Speaker 2: it because it's season four, so they're not talking about

21:01 Speaker 2: but it's like this woman is sitting here watching you,

21:04 Speaker 2: and people forget they were the center of the whole

21:07 Speaker 2: swinging thing. It was Chase, its Taylor, it was Miranda,

21:10 Speaker 2: and then she came also admitted he had failing for her.

21:15 Speaker 1: Yes, hello, it calls divorces too. Yeah.

21:19 Speaker 2: So casually she's just like, oh, I went in to

21:21 Speaker 2: day and when then they're flirting with each other and

21:24 Speaker 2: she has to sit there and watch it like it's normal,

21:27 Speaker 2: and I'm just like four with it.

21:30 Speaker 1: Spoiler they do, yeah, they do. They like to play

21:33 Speaker 1: into it a little bit. Producers do him Like, is

21:36 Speaker 1: Chase the only man in Utah? Like I really, I

21:39 Speaker 1: would love to know, And you want to know something.

21:41 Speaker 1: I thought something weird was going on. If you don't

21:44 Speaker 1: know the current controversy, the standout is that Jesse Uh

21:49 Speaker 1: and Chase were called allegedly kissing at some event a party,

21:55 Speaker 1: birthday party. That events a birthday party, And I thought

21:59 Speaker 1: something was weird this past like months, maybe last month,

22:04 Speaker 1: because Chase was Jesse's only spokes model for her new

22:11 Speaker 1: merch t shirt for her little like for her not

22:14 Speaker 1: her little business businesses. This is why she was promoting it.

22:18 Speaker 1: And I'm like, one, I didn't I think I looked

22:21 Speaker 1: at it so many times because the sweatshirt didn't make

22:23 Speaker 1: sense on the front and the back, but I knew

22:25 Speaker 1: it was promo because it had jay Z Styles all

22:27 Speaker 1: over it. And so she said she got a hot

22:29 Speaker 1: ex husband or whatever like that, she got her friend's

22:32 Speaker 1: hot ags husband. She made a reel about this, Yes,

22:36 Speaker 1: and uhuh. And Chase is like just posing in this

22:41 Speaker 1: new sweatshirt that is promoting jay Z Styles or whatever

22:46 Speaker 1: outside of her g wagon jeep or whatever boxy car was.

22:50 Speaker 1: This is literally a month ago, and I was thinking

22:53 Speaker 1: to myself, this is very interesting, like the sin is

22:56 Speaker 1: just very interesting combination, like this get together and to

23:02 Speaker 1: promote your weave business. He's bald and a man. Well,

23:08 Speaker 1: I just don't get it.

23:11 Speaker 2: We just got Rob promoting Sephora, so you know, from

23:14 Speaker 2: the traders, so we know nothing makes sense anymore.

23:18 Speaker 1: I don't.

23:20 Speaker 2: I think, Okay, armchair diagnosis. These women are addicted to

23:27 Speaker 2: not clout, but in some way clout. It's social media, right,

23:31 Speaker 2: that's how they started, you know, get all the stuff

23:34 Speaker 2: and it's all the likes, and it's the acknowledgment is

23:36 Speaker 2: to stay relevant.

23:38 Speaker 1: And now it's like, at what costs.

23:40 Speaker 2: As long as people are still going to be talking

23:42 Speaker 2: about me, that way I can secure my season. We

23:45 Speaker 2: saw a little glimpse of people trying to still be

23:47 Speaker 2: on the season, and it's like, what storyline do I have?

23:50 Speaker 2: So they're doing everything they can and they're okay with it,

23:54 Speaker 2: just so at least people are talking about it. We

23:58 Speaker 2: know that's the case. For the guys like Chase, this

24:00 Speaker 2: is basically like what's his name Slade from OC, Yes,

24:04 Speaker 2: he's like, I got a ticket, who's next?

24:07 Speaker 1: All right, come right this ride.

24:11 Speaker 2: So the guys don't care between dad Talk and whoever

24:15 Speaker 2: else is dating. As long as they can stay on

24:17 Speaker 2: the show, they don't care. But the fact that the

24:19 Speaker 2: women are buying into it is what's so upsetting. But again,

24:23 Speaker 2: it's still a jump scare when it comes on and

24:25 Speaker 2: you see like oh Lailo and Mikayla and it's like

24:28 Speaker 2: twenty three and you're like, oh my god, yes you

24:31 Speaker 2: are still so young. So their frontal lobe is not developed.

24:35 Speaker 1: I literally I don't know. I think I was testing

24:38 Speaker 1: Vanessa from Shout Out to Reality Recap. I was like,

24:42 Speaker 1: you know, if you love Wendy Williams, like I used

24:44 Speaker 1: to watched her down their true journalism queen. She used

24:49 Speaker 1: to say, dumb twenty five and me now no longer

24:53 Speaker 1: being twenty five. My god, do I get it? Because

24:57 Speaker 1: the things that I allowed to be talked to, that

25:04 Speaker 1: ideas that I had about myself and the world were

25:07 Speaker 1: so different, so limited and so like impossible. I can't

25:11 Speaker 1: even imagine having multiple babies do you are responsible for

25:19 Speaker 1: on top of it? Where like also now your bread

25:21 Speaker 1: and butter is because you are married to this man,

25:24 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So like I like And

25:27 Speaker 1: I say that in reference to Michayla who you know,

25:31 Speaker 1: Jase and her they had a journey separated, probably not anymore,

25:37 Speaker 1: it seems, And that's, you know, her prerogative. She is

25:41 Speaker 1: verrely twenty five years old with three babies and brownie

25:44 Speaker 1: illness that only seems to have any relief when she's

25:48 Speaker 1: proregnant again with a man that we are all more

25:52 Speaker 1: growing more increcently uncomfortable with every day. So just is

25:58 Speaker 1: what it is. But girl sending Miranda flowers because you

26:05 Speaker 1: kiss her husband, it's crazy. You're nut, I say, Oh, bitch,

26:12 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. That's the flowers you throw away? Mary, You

26:17 Speaker 1: don't selling sunset. You don't throw away Chelsea's flowers, who

26:23 Speaker 1: genuinely was scared and sad for you as a mother

26:26 Speaker 1: that you got Robs. Okay, you throw away the flowers

26:30 Speaker 1: In the bit, she was like, I know this, you

26:32 Speaker 1: don't care, but I just feel like I send it anyway. Girl,

26:37 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry you did that for no reason. I'm

26:39 Speaker 1: so sorry. Wan.

26:41 Speaker 2: Some roses shut up, but many Hell no, Like you

26:46 Speaker 2: wouldn't even make the threshold, Like, what are we even

26:49 Speaker 2: doing if I see the card and it's not even

26:52 Speaker 2: coming in? I don't want that bad Jude in my house. No, no,

26:55 Speaker 2: But but it's so absurd that I'm one. You what

27:00 Speaker 2: if they're all in on this together? What if we're

27:03 Speaker 2: all like this, Taylor, Frankie, Paul, this is bad, but

27:06 Speaker 2: mom talks survived this. What are we gonna do? And

27:09 Speaker 2: then they're doing all this together? But I'm just like,

27:12 Speaker 2: Miranda wouldn't go that far?

27:15 Speaker 1: Will shit. I don't think she would because I really

27:17 Speaker 1: think she does not like it when people just think

27:20 Speaker 1: it's okay her Because I've always thought, what if Miranda

27:26 Speaker 1: wasn't done with her marriage? You know what I mean?

27:29 Speaker 1: Because get to remember there was a line that was

27:33 Speaker 1: crossed between two people, and those people were not Miranda

27:37 Speaker 1: and Taylor's ex husband. They wanted they both expressed separately

27:41 Speaker 1: that they wanted to stop, that they wanted to not

27:44 Speaker 1: do the thing. Is part of that, yeah, exactly. And

27:47 Speaker 1: so a part of her me was just like did

27:50 Speaker 1: she want her marriage? Did it just end up having

27:53 Speaker 1: to end because one they started having feelings for each

27:58 Speaker 1: other expressed it at the gym. Trust was betrayed and broken,

28:02 Speaker 1: and that would be a lot. I mean it would

28:03 Speaker 1: be a lot for me too, And it broke up

28:06 Speaker 1: Taylor's marriage. I mean that man her husband. We didn't

28:09 Speaker 1: see that man on the screen anywhere, but TMZ catching

28:11 Speaker 1: him at the courthouse recently. That's it. It's the last

28:15 Speaker 1: first I've seen hi him. So I wonder him like

28:17 Speaker 1: Marena's did what she is doing what she has to

28:21 Speaker 1: do co parenting, But like, I don't think she would

28:25 Speaker 1: want to do this necessarily because I don't know if

28:29 Speaker 1: she would wanted to be not in her marriage necessarily,

28:34 Speaker 1: but we have not seen that yet.

28:36 Speaker 2: I can agree with that. But every time I lean

28:39 Speaker 2: towards Miranda wouldn't be part of this, I remember that

28:42 Speaker 2: she willingly came to be a part of season two.

28:45 Speaker 2: She could easily have stayed away, She could easily have

28:48 Speaker 2: not been part of this, but.

28:49 Speaker 1: She came back and was like take me back please.

28:52 Speaker 1: So was also here then too, and her baby daddy

28:55 Speaker 1: is here. Yeah, just like why did we give the

28:58 Speaker 1: man a pass before we give the woman? I feel

29:00 Speaker 1: like Miranda is also a young and was Taylor's friend.

29:04 Speaker 1: Is of the age of like if she's gonna be

29:07 Speaker 1: able to tell her story and nobody. I also think

29:10 Speaker 1: that I've said this before. The girl is on Utah,

29:13 Speaker 1: especially Miranda. These ex Mormon girlies, they didn't realize how

29:19 Speaker 1: much the rest of us wouldn't give a fuck about

29:23 Speaker 1: their soft swinging. Like that made it interesting, but it

29:27 Speaker 1: was not the talent. It was like, oh so in

29:29 Speaker 1: moral Ah, Whitney freaking like moved away because Connor was

29:34 Speaker 1: caught on the tender or whatever, like she moved up.

29:37 Speaker 1: Like they're so thinking that the world is gonna blow

29:41 Speaker 1: up because Utah would blow up their like white Man

29:45 Speaker 1: snow Town would blow up over the idea of the

29:48 Speaker 1: soft swinging and the multi you know, multi wife husband

29:52 Speaker 1: events and affairs in the Rundown, The tailor members in

29:55 Speaker 1: season two and three or whatever they are, so they

29:58 Speaker 1: thought we would care after this success of season one,

30:02 Speaker 1: they were like, oh, they don't care. We don't. That's

30:05 Speaker 1: why all of the girls who were originally in Mom

30:08 Speaker 1: Talk are no longer and the ones we met in

30:11 Speaker 1: this first season only like two of them are like

30:15 Speaker 1: the original Mom Talk girls. The rest quit thinking that

30:18 Speaker 1: the scandal of the swinging was gonna ruin their reputation,

30:22 Speaker 1: Like yeah, they all dipped out, So I just think

30:26 Speaker 1: that that's it. Pains it's Miranda is like, if there's

30:30 Speaker 1: gonna be a story to be told, it's not gonna

30:32 Speaker 1: be my ex husband and my ex best friend only

30:34 Speaker 1: going to tell it. That's what I'm not gonna do

30:36 Speaker 1: when I can get a bag. Because the girl was

30:40 Speaker 1: craplier than the rest. Yeahst I like that girl, Little Bobbyanna.

30:44 Speaker 1: I like her.

30:46 Speaker 2: Yeah she doesn't have she's good as an entourage, not

30:49 Speaker 2: not enough personality, but she plays her part, you know,

30:53 Speaker 2: as part of the entourage. But it goes back to

30:55 Speaker 2: what didn't see her to be her wife. They're all

30:59 Speaker 2: fueled by guilt in some form or way or the other.

31:03 Speaker 1: It is guilt in some way. Yeah, I do get it,

31:06 Speaker 1: though I come from repressed religion, so I absolutely understand.

31:09 Speaker 1: I grew up in the church and I was you know,

31:12 Speaker 1: oo boy when I grew up in the church. Is

31:14 Speaker 1: putting it lightly real, So I understand it. You know,

31:20 Speaker 1: you barely you barely come out with I can't even

31:23 Speaker 1: say you're wits. You don't you really don't. You just

31:25 Speaker 1: be You don't know if you got your family, because

31:27 Speaker 1: you may not. You know, you may have no family.

31:30 Speaker 1: I had a parent choose me, one not choose the

31:33 Speaker 1: church legitimately, So it's like you know, you have you

31:37 Speaker 1: get I get it in a sense of like yeah,

31:40 Speaker 1: some especially because you know Mickayla her only person she's

31:44 Speaker 1: ever had to be safe is her husband. That's probably

31:48 Speaker 1: really hard to think about leaving at twenty five.

31:51 Speaker 2: So yes, yes, yeah, Lake City. She's still you can

31:57 Speaker 2: still see the repercussions of it still, as with Hooy.

32:01 Speaker 1: She still grapples with it every day. Like you know,

32:05 Speaker 1: it was nice to see her work it, work through

32:07 Speaker 1: it on the you know, surviving Mormonism thing, but like

32:10 Speaker 1: she grapples with it all the time, like it took

32:12 Speaker 1: a Laura a long time. We watched the real time

32:14 Speaker 1: it took the public, also telling her, girl, you are

32:18 Speaker 1: so fine by yourself. We don't care about whatever man

32:22 Speaker 1: who like I may I divorced this big man who

32:25 Speaker 1: we don't know him. We could care less.

32:28 Speaker 2: Sorry to that man, we don't know him. Right, hold up, many,

32:33 Speaker 2: hold up?

32:33 Speaker 1: We like Heather? No, I don't.

32:36 Speaker 2: Okay, absolutely, but between Heather and her husband, we will

32:42 Speaker 2: choose Heather, right, Yes, okay, I just wanted to clarify.

32:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, although no, of course not at all. No, you know,

32:50 Speaker 1: you know long time people know that, longtime listeners of

32:54 Speaker 1: the mix with MANI no, absolutely. I had a shirt

32:58 Speaker 1: called the Block it like don't make the Block Hot,

33:01 Speaker 1: inspired by one Heather Day because I was like that

33:04 Speaker 1: lady made the block hat. Would jin have been arrested

33:07 Speaker 1: that fast if Heather was not on the reunion or

33:09 Speaker 1: did they not have a later date in mind? They

33:12 Speaker 1: had all they needed. When that girl said, I don't

33:14 Speaker 1: know what she's doing, but I'm at town like party,

33:19 Speaker 1: I'm in the chef's table and I'm like, I don't

33:22 Speaker 1: know what it is, but I'm everywhere. I'm like, if

33:26 Speaker 1: you don't shut hell, you was this? She was very

33:35 Speaker 1: pissed say that if if you listen, would they say

33:39 Speaker 1: it could have been you could have taken me. I

33:41 Speaker 1: wouldn't have said that, take me to chowd I'll bet

33:44 Speaker 1: the CH's stable. I don't have no reason to tell

33:46 Speaker 1: nobody I'm there. I got a whole podcast. Won't tell

33:49 Speaker 1: a soul. I will never know. Hey, you know I

33:51 Speaker 1: didn't go there. You go exactly may or may not.

33:55 Speaker 1: So anyways, the girls in Utah, I'll this is maybe.

34:01 Speaker 1: I hope it is just deploy too. Can we survive

34:05 Speaker 1: without Taylor? Because I'd love to, well, what is this

34:09 Speaker 1: whole girl? She took a break, And I do think

34:15 Speaker 1: I would love to look at some houses with Layla

34:17 Speaker 1: over in California, this spinoff that they're talking about so far,

34:21 Speaker 1: at least with Jin and Whitney. Layla also just says

34:28 Speaker 1: she was looking at houses may or may not, but

34:30 Speaker 1: she was playing around with that idea out in California,

34:33 Speaker 1: where the girlies also have migrated. There's rumors, there are talks.

34:38 Speaker 1: I don't even think it's rumors or like this, like

34:40 Speaker 1: that's pretty camera is talking. So that's pretty much. It's

34:45 Speaker 1: about as good as good because they're gonna have some

34:49 Speaker 1: kind of spin off of the show and it's filming.

34:53 Speaker 2: Why are they calling it a spinoff. It just feels

34:55 Speaker 2: like it's the same people but a different location. Because

34:58 Speaker 2: I think I saw Mikayla also saying something about moving

35:01 Speaker 2: to She.

35:02 Speaker 4: Did Orange County already. Yeah, so that that was her

35:07 Speaker 4: release from her husband. They might get back together.

35:16 Speaker 2: They honestly might get back together, because again, like you said,

35:19 Speaker 2: it's very hard to remove that that's the person she's

35:23 Speaker 2: been with since she was sixteen, and couple that with religion,

35:28 Speaker 2: that's a double I was about to say double penetration,

35:31 Speaker 2: but that's not right.

35:32 Speaker 1: That's double double homicide. But that's not right.

35:36 Speaker 2: That's not right, But that's double the stuff that she

35:40 Speaker 2: has to work through. It's like the person that she's

35:42 Speaker 2: been with that has been her person, and then religion

35:44 Speaker 2: and both things are kind of working against her. And

35:47 Speaker 2: it's just like, who's there to help her from that?

35:50 Speaker 2: And now if they're both moving to California, she really

35:53 Speaker 2: has to depend on him, and that's the father of

35:55 Speaker 2: her kids, and that's who she's lean on more So

35:58 Speaker 2: it would be easy to fall back to old patterns.

36:01 Speaker 2: But there's a lot they all need a break.

36:04 Speaker 1: I think they do. I think MICHAELA and Macey right

36:07 Speaker 1: now are some of my favorites. I have a fun

36:10 Speaker 1: time watching them. But I am interested and invested in

36:13 Speaker 1: Jesse's mess Messy Jesse's what I call her, especially if

36:18 Speaker 1: we are getting rid of fucking Jordan's. I'm fine with that, Like,

36:22 Speaker 1: you can be messy Jesse, but I cannot stand in

36:25 Speaker 1: that hobbit. And I do have to caution you when

36:28 Speaker 1: you do eventually get around to watching this current season.

36:33 Speaker 1: He is so insufferable just as a little dean. He's

36:37 Speaker 1: just so annoying because it just feels like he's also

36:41 Speaker 1: he While everybody else is fueled by shame or whatever,

36:44 Speaker 1: Jordan is fueled by like hatred and vengeance against his

36:50 Speaker 1: wife while still married to her. So it feels so uncomfortable,

36:54 Speaker 1: and he's so vocal about it. So it's like, why

36:57 Speaker 1: are you telling all of us how much you Basically

37:01 Speaker 1: it's weird. It's just giving hobbit behavior. And I don't

37:05 Speaker 1: like gremlins, you know, named Jordan, and that's just that's

37:09 Speaker 1: no shame to anything other than him looking like a gremlin.

37:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a classic example of someone married to their

37:16 Speaker 2: ops because really he just hates her. It's the opposite

37:21 Speaker 2: where the women are feel good with guilt and shame,

37:26 Speaker 2: the men are just insecure and then it's coming out

37:29 Speaker 2: and like I'm the man at house.

37:31 Speaker 1: Well go work if that really is it, and if

37:34 Speaker 1: you have to.

37:35 Speaker 2: He's appointed himself leader of dad Talk and he thinks

37:39 Speaker 2: we don't know that he's the one that leaked the

37:41 Speaker 2: tape for Taylor.

37:42 Speaker 1: Come on, please, Jordan, you do so much. And you

37:46 Speaker 1: keep saying that you want to show the girls that

37:50 Speaker 1: dad Talk can survive without them, or that dad Talk

37:54 Speaker 1: is they don't have no, that they don't have a

37:56 Speaker 1: monopoly on the internet. Sir, you here because of them.

38:01 Speaker 2: I need you, and that's never gonna be. That's never

38:06 Speaker 2: gonna change the fact that you were here because of them.

38:09 Speaker 2: If you started this on your own, we would not care.

38:12 Speaker 2: And also, you didn't even give it a different name.

38:14 Speaker 2: You literally had dad Talk. It's not anything different.

38:18 Speaker 1: So nothing original, at leastactly the same. So you cannot

38:23 Speaker 1: do like that, whatever that is that you're thinking of,

38:26 Speaker 1: Mission unaccomplished. It gives the divorce, yes, so it's given.

38:31 Speaker 1: Like the TVs are getting dominated by the divorces unless

38:36 Speaker 1: you are a Love is Blind watcher like I am. Yeah,

38:40 Speaker 1: where the goal is supposed to be made. Okay, so

38:43 Speaker 1: what do you watch Love is Blind for? This is

38:45 Speaker 1: what I like to ask people who watch love reality

38:48 Speaker 1: competition shows like you know, The Bachelor, the Bachelorette, Love

38:53 Speaker 1: is Blind, things like that. What do you watch for?

38:56 Speaker 1: What is your end game? What do you hope for?

38:58 Speaker 2: I'm a fifty to fifty Switzerland person. I want the

39:01 Speaker 2: mess and I want the love.

39:02 Speaker 1: It has to be balanced.

39:04 Speaker 2: It's not gonna be five out of five or however

39:06 Speaker 2: many couples that they're getting. I'm a vet of married

39:10 Speaker 2: at first sight. I've been trained not to expect a

39:12 Speaker 2: happy ending. So no, that's right, I'm just expecting that. Yes,

39:19 Speaker 2: I understand that the show needs to have their mess,

39:21 Speaker 2: but I also would also like to see people like actually, like,

39:25 Speaker 2: you know, oh, what are the odds that we did

39:27 Speaker 2: something this crazy and we found someone. I mean, when

39:29 Speaker 2: you watch the couples that have been together and have

39:32 Speaker 2: kids now, it's kind of like, wow, we literally saw

39:35 Speaker 2: the first time that you met and now you have kids.

39:38 Speaker 2: That's a nice feeling to have. But also the crazy

39:40 Speaker 2: people when we think of the Cuties and the Orange

39:43 Speaker 2: situation back then, like you know, things like that.

39:46 Speaker 1: It's also like entertaining. So I'm a fifty to fifty yeah, okay, yeah,

39:51 Speaker 1: I love that. I'm in a ninety nine for the mess.

39:57 Speaker 1: I really don't need anybody to get married. I believe

40:02 Speaker 1: it in that since Lorn and Cameron pen that thought,

40:06 Speaker 1: but not even just since Lorn and Cameron, since season

40:08 Speaker 1: one period, because also Barnett and what is her Amber? Amber?

40:14 Speaker 1: Thank you? Since then, I really thought that the show

40:21 Speaker 1: had an interesting idea in concept that at the time

40:25 Speaker 1: made a lot of sense being in quarantine, especially that

40:28 Speaker 1: I was like, this could really work, and I really

40:31 Speaker 1: believe that, and I really thought that it could. Then

40:34 Speaker 1: after season eighty two or three, I started to learn

40:39 Speaker 1: that if you watch with the intention of being entertained,

40:43 Speaker 1: you will never be disappointed. If you watch with the

40:45 Speaker 1: intention of feeling that same feeling again of love and

40:49 Speaker 1: happiness of season one, you will Yeah, so don't So

40:53 Speaker 1: I chose to not for the remainder, and so I

40:56 Speaker 1: watch now for the entertainments. And you want to know

41:00 Speaker 1: what every season after I've been proven more righty, I

41:05 Speaker 1: feel like you want to be entertained. You will start out,

41:09 Speaker 1: look at that another season where no one got married.

41:13 Speaker 1: Oh my, it's crazy.

41:16 Speaker 2: I mean it is smart. But I will say one

41:20 Speaker 2: thing though. I know everyone puts Lauren and Cameron on,

41:23 Speaker 2: you know, a pedestal and they were the best. You

41:25 Speaker 2: can't what is it lightning in a bottle twice and

41:28 Speaker 2: you can't get the same feeling that you felt from

41:30 Speaker 2: season one. We didn't know what to expect. We didn't

41:33 Speaker 2: have like a template, we didn't know what it was.

41:35 Speaker 2: It's not gonna feel the same way. But I do

41:37 Speaker 2: feel like it is kind of a dish to the

41:41 Speaker 2: other couples that have made it not you know, season

41:43 Speaker 2: four has the most successful, the Zach and the Blisses,

41:46 Speaker 2: the Tiffany and bread and combing them and then you

41:49 Speaker 2: know all those people. So we do have people that

41:51 Speaker 2: have been successful, but it just feels like, no matter

41:54 Speaker 2: what they do, everyone thinks they're not Lauren and Cameron,

41:57 Speaker 2: and that's it, and they stuck like who are you?

42:00 Speaker 2: Even don't even talk about it. But I do think

42:02 Speaker 2: also it lasts like credit history. You know, it's like

42:05 Speaker 2: they're for every year longer that they stay together and

42:09 Speaker 2: have like oh a baby, oh man, really could work.

42:13 Speaker 2: It's like, wow, another year. It's like all them years

42:16 Speaker 2: in it they got they got behind them a little bit.

42:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, that gives them some stuff. But yeah, I mean

42:21 Speaker 1: I do feel you.

42:22 Speaker 2: The only thing I ask of is I do hate

42:26 Speaker 2: when they break up in the middle of the season.

42:28 Speaker 2: I need you to get to the altar and to

42:32 Speaker 2: their face.

42:33 Speaker 1: Say should contracted?

42:35 Speaker 2: I don't want to because what listen, I'm covering Love

42:38 Speaker 2: is Blind Sweden. Right now we have two couples left two.

42:42 Speaker 1: I don't even know if the two are gonna make

42:44 Speaker 1: it to the I was breaking up, so I don't know.

42:48 Speaker 1: That's not like a whole point. I look forward to

42:52 Speaker 1: the weddings like you want to know they because will

42:56 Speaker 1: they won't say? For me is the entertainment. I love

42:59 Speaker 1: that first run away years ago, even that first season,

43:02 Speaker 1: that first girl that was like I'm just gonna do it.

43:05 Speaker 1: She couldn't do it, and I was like every season

43:08 Speaker 1: after that, it's always been a nice like thrill to

43:11 Speaker 1: be like will they actually say? Yes, I think they might,

43:16 Speaker 1: and then when you think they might, they don't, and

43:18 Speaker 1: then you're even worship. We just haven't had that happen

43:21 Speaker 1: in a while, so I look forward to when I

43:22 Speaker 1: feel those feelings. So y'all know, y'all need to get

43:25 Speaker 1: to that altar. That's so all gay. That's what we're

43:28 Speaker 1: the calls to the altar. Please yes, that should be

43:32 Speaker 1: contractually obligated. It should be the housewives don't talk about

43:35 Speaker 1: the season while filming it on social media, and that

43:38 Speaker 1: the girl he's on Love is Blind About to make

43:40 Speaker 1: it two of the altar in order to tell us

43:43 Speaker 1: if they are going to stay it together or not,

43:45 Speaker 1: even if they thought last night, don't give a shit.

43:48 Speaker 1: Put on the dress, get down there, tell us your

43:51 Speaker 1: friends and family and before God and the law, will

43:54 Speaker 1: you or not? That's what we're all here for. Thank you,

43:57 Speaker 1: and I want to know give me this. It's every

44:00 Speaker 1: time I like it. Also nothing, it's a break. Hello.

44:05 Speaker 1: Who did you have rooting? Who were you rooting for

44:08 Speaker 1: this season of Love is Blind About?

44:11 Speaker 2: To out myself, I was remember Vic and Christine, like

44:15 Speaker 2: I get it, everyone's life, sucker, sucker, you didn't know

44:21 Speaker 2: we were right? Yeah, but I'm not gonna come here

44:25 Speaker 2: and clean like I was smart. It was so bad

44:30 Speaker 2: that I was actually rooting for them and egg on

44:33 Speaker 2: my face.

44:34 Speaker 1: You know it is what it is. So love's not blind,

44:38 Speaker 1: it's God, did you know? According to Listen, it's just

44:46 Speaker 1: that am of a mind of I've seen that dynamic

44:54 Speaker 1: when I watched it on the show. Ye have seen

44:57 Speaker 1: that dynamic play out one time or or few before

45:02 Speaker 1: where I was like, I don't think I'm gonna put

45:04 Speaker 1: all my eggs in this basket. I think I'll reserve

45:07 Speaker 1: some eggs and I'll just leave that basket there. And

45:11 Speaker 1: so I was, but but I'm interested to see how

45:15 Speaker 1: this goes. So maybe I'll put one hard boiled hey

45:20 Speaker 1: that I could give a shit about if I eat it,

45:23 Speaker 1: and I would not eat it unless I am hungry.

45:26 Speaker 1: So I just put it over there, and I just

45:28 Speaker 1: let it sit over there. And then I really thought

45:32 Speaker 1: that y'all had it. I really did. So I don't

45:35 Speaker 1: think they're alone. And that's why I wanted to have

45:37 Speaker 1: you here, because I think a lot of people are

45:40 Speaker 1: feeling the reason why it's so so much outcry that

45:44 Speaker 1: this couple that many were rooting for, you know, shocked

45:49 Speaker 1: people going on the Fox circuit for we don't know what,

45:56 Speaker 1: don't we don't know what or why them lots of

45:59 Speaker 1: questions there, and really, you know, took the evangelical approach

46:05 Speaker 1: of like kind of like almost delivering the point of

46:12 Speaker 1: the experience and and putting a lot on It was

46:17 Speaker 1: a very interesting interview. Uh, and it was something that

46:21 Speaker 1: I think shocked a lot of people who, for whatever

46:24 Speaker 1: reason didn't think they'd take this approach. I mean, if

46:27 Speaker 1: you I saw the through line, I was shocked, and

46:31 Speaker 1: then I saw there mind by the end of it

46:33 Speaker 1: pretty quickly because I keep up with who's in charge

46:36 Speaker 1: of what and where and what NETFLA is doing currently,

46:40 Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, I just see a pattern. So

46:43 Speaker 1: I'm not shocked. Yeah, that Murdoch documentary was good. I

46:47 Speaker 1: did watch it. I did. Yeah. I just gonna say that, Yeah,

46:51 Speaker 1: I did watch that. And I've heard a lot of

46:53 Speaker 1: people like Age of Attraction. It's it's doing all right. Yeah.

47:01 Speaker 1: I know they couldn't make me either, but people are

47:06 Speaker 1: and people keep sending it to me. Look at it,

47:08 Speaker 1: but just look at this scene mine. It's so funny.

47:10 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, it's like I draw the line. Note

47:16 Speaker 2: I do. I do.

47:17 Speaker 1: I'm an educator, so I'm gonna go ahead and pass

47:20 Speaker 1: on that one. And so I see that. I do

47:25 Speaker 1: know that where they put one documentary that I was

47:30 Speaker 1: looking for that is not in the place that an

47:32 Speaker 1: adult would normally find it. So I know who's in

47:35 Speaker 1: charge what's happening. So I wasn't when you think about

47:40 Speaker 1: it all. By the time she got finished saying that

47:42 Speaker 1: she got on her knees to think to ask God

47:45 Speaker 1: to send her to Netflix. If Netflix is part of

47:48 Speaker 1: my plan, Lord, let me do it. That's basically what

47:51 Speaker 1: she told them, and the lady is just eating it up.

47:54 Speaker 1: You better tell us that God is responsible for you

47:56 Speaker 1: being on the reality TV show. Do you hear yourself again?

48:01 Speaker 1: This is what I mean is someone who grew up

48:03 Speaker 1: in the religions and not even religion. I'm of the

48:06 Speaker 1: it's not a religion, it's a faith. You know kind

48:09 Speaker 1: of time it is offensive sometimes what y'all let come

48:17 Speaker 1: out of your mouths and say and then blame on

48:24 Speaker 1: what I got going on. But God, that's so crazy,

48:27 Speaker 1: Like that's not it. What are you talking about telling me? So,

48:31 Speaker 1: by the time she got done talking about how she

48:33 Speaker 1: was on her knees thanking the asking God if they

48:36 Speaker 1: put it in her plan to go on lover's blind

48:38 Speaker 1: so she can find her husband there. Because that's where

48:40 Speaker 1: you put it. I made the through line and the

48:43 Speaker 1: understanding and the connection of where they're supposed to be

48:45 Speaker 1: and said, okay, yeah, there you go. There's y'all's new.

48:51 Speaker 1: And that's what said, y'alls knew Lauren and Camery we

48:54 Speaker 1: did right. I don't know, I wouldn't.

48:58 Speaker 2: I don't know if I put them in this same situation.

49:01 Speaker 2: I know when Vanessa, I think in the reunion, was like,

49:06 Speaker 2: are you guys like perfect? No fights, no nothing. I

49:10 Speaker 2: kind of agreed with her a little bit where it's

49:12 Speaker 2: just like, there's no relationship that's that you know perfect.

49:16 Speaker 2: There has to be, you know, something in the relationship.

49:20 Speaker 2: Looking at it from the other view, you know, over

49:22 Speaker 2: zealous Christians, you are an expert in that. You just

49:26 Speaker 2: said that you've been through that. And in that regard,

49:29 Speaker 2: it's always like the thought process is God above anything, right,

49:33 Speaker 2: And the excuesday use is just like, you know, I'm

49:36 Speaker 2: not gonna bend away from what God has told me.

49:39 Speaker 2: And you know, even if it means that I'm going

49:42 Speaker 2: to spread the word, you know, to anyone, I'm gonna

49:45 Speaker 2: step into the den and as long as I'm spreading

49:48 Speaker 2: the word, which is fine for them and what you

49:53 Speaker 2: want to live in. Like I said earlier, I'm not lying.

49:56 Speaker 2: I was a fan of Vic and Christine. I didn't

49:59 Speaker 2: see the line I did. I just thought they were

50:02 Speaker 2: to you and maybe because we were starved. Where I

50:05 Speaker 2: think I have an issue on the choice, because it

50:08 Speaker 2: is a choice to go on that network is if

50:12 Speaker 2: we're doing that, let's not pick and choose. If you

50:17 Speaker 2: want to spread the word, don't go on a network

50:20 Speaker 2: that is hateful, that is not aligned with the word.

50:25 Speaker 1: That you speak of.

50:27 Speaker 2: Yes, you think you're doing something good, but there are

50:29 Speaker 2: other ways to do that. You don't have to go

50:31 Speaker 2: there to spread whatever it is that you're trying to spread.

50:35 Speaker 2: I did not watch the interview. It is just clips

50:38 Speaker 2: of what I saw, because again, like I said, I

50:39 Speaker 2: just feel like the choice to go on there. You've

50:43 Speaker 2: done many interviews, a lot of interviews now where maybe

50:47 Speaker 2: zero point zero zero one percent chances like were they

50:50 Speaker 2: forced to do it? I don't think so, But were

50:52 Speaker 2: they forced to do it? That they were the one

50:54 Speaker 2: successful couple and like you said, the people ye are

50:59 Speaker 2: running things that like you have to do this, Maybe

51:02 Speaker 2: that's what it is. I don't know, but I know

51:04 Speaker 2: Vic has been online trying to explain himself away and

51:08 Speaker 2: I don't know that anyone's picking up what he's saying,

51:12 Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, that was a choice,

51:14 Speaker 2: and that was a choice that I know that I

51:16 Speaker 2: felt disappointed in because you know how they're talking about us,

51:21 Speaker 2: and by us, I mean black people. Just in case

51:24 Speaker 2: that wasn't clear. You know how they treat us, you

51:26 Speaker 2: know how they see us. That is not the place

51:29 Speaker 2: you go to change people's minds.

51:32 Speaker 1: I just know it's not, very very clearly and very simply,

51:37 Speaker 1: especially if what your goal is is to spread the word.

51:42 Speaker 1: Going to Fox does not make sense because largely their

51:45 Speaker 1: audience is exactly the people who are nodding in agree

51:50 Speaker 1: like they're they touch an agree. They are already in

51:54 Speaker 1: that same camp. They're in the body. Yeah, I would say, like,

51:58 Speaker 1: so that is it's their it's confirmation bias where you're at, right,

52:02 Speaker 1: and so you're not spreading anything. You're putting your spreading

52:06 Speaker 1: dandy lions like in the field of Dandie lions. So

52:09 Speaker 1: you need to go elsewhere if that is your goal. Yeh,

52:14 Speaker 1: that is your goal. However, I'm like, is that your

52:17 Speaker 1: goal because or where you contractionally obligated because or didn't

52:21 Speaker 1: that to say you had to do this because again,

52:23 Speaker 1: I watched the Murdoch documentary and for those who don't know,

52:26 Speaker 1: Ruper Murdoch is loosely who the show Secession is based

52:32 Speaker 1: off of. I say, Lucie, so I don't get sued,

52:34 Speaker 1: but watching and you tell me it's not because they

52:39 Speaker 1: make all the connections themselves. In the Ruper Murdoch documentary

52:43 Speaker 1: about the creation of Fox News Network, which I see

52:47 Speaker 1: news network as it's full title, though it is not

52:49 Speaker 1: a news network. At court did declare that it is

52:53 Speaker 1: not a news network to make sure that is a fact,

52:55 Speaker 1: because it does not report the news. It is an

52:58 Speaker 1: entertainment channel. That is caveat asterisk. Anyways, up, Murdoch invented Fox.

53:05 Speaker 1: He is if you watch the session, he is that

53:09 Speaker 1: that is Fox, that is the that is the job,

53:12 Speaker 1: and it is literally what I mean. It was the

53:15 Speaker 1: great show for a reason. It was highly relatable. We

53:17 Speaker 1: all understood exactly what was happening. So that documentary coming

53:20 Speaker 1: out recently on Netflix is a multi part, well done,

53:24 Speaker 1: highly produced, very good. No AI people in that one.

53:29 Speaker 1: It was very very good. But and I watched it

53:33 Speaker 1: because I'm interested. I know the story of Ruper Murdock.

53:36 Speaker 1: I like to know the diary. You know, they has

53:38 Speaker 1: a lot of secrets, a lot of stuff about all

53:41 Speaker 1: of them, and that comes out right before and that

53:46 Speaker 1: being one of the number one documentaries are one of

53:49 Speaker 1: the number one things on Netflix's thing. I roll my

53:52 Speaker 1: eyes at that, but you know, I'm not looking at

53:55 Speaker 1: I'm not doing the numbers. But when we all were

53:58 Speaker 1: watching it, I was one of them and the nigga

54:00 Speaker 1: on this you know, Fox interview, which I just thought

54:04 Speaker 1: was interesting because also, what were those ratings? Like Fox

54:07 Speaker 1: and Friends? Really, Netflix can't get you or something with

54:10 Speaker 1: more ratings. There are plenty of shows with more ratings

54:13 Speaker 1: than on Fox and Friends. So it's not giving that

54:15 Speaker 1: it was a marketing push. So it's just given that

54:18 Speaker 1: it's a little bit more specific than that. La. So

54:21 Speaker 1: unless you touched and agreed on that too, maybe y'all

54:24 Speaker 1: really maybe you girly, it's looking like it wanted to

54:29 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I just want to spread the word

54:32 Speaker 1: and to my jab now I've got them in and

54:34 Speaker 1: so sir, if you need to come to the family,

54:39 Speaker 1: get together and flash a light in your face and

54:43 Speaker 1: take a picture with my flash on you let me know.

54:46 Speaker 2: No, he's he's where he wants He's where he wants

54:49 Speaker 2: to be.

54:50 Speaker 1: And that's the thing. It's not a knock on their religion.

54:53 Speaker 1: They can have their faith.

54:54 Speaker 2: That is not you. You can do whatever you want

54:57 Speaker 2: to do, but it will be do with it no way.

55:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, but knowing knowing the world that we live in.

55:04 Speaker 2: Like just again, like I said, it's a choice, knowing that, Oh,

55:07 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go on Fox and Friends and we're gonna

55:09 Speaker 2: talk about it. There were many thought processes that went

55:13 Speaker 2: through that and for the end result to be, yeah,

55:16 Speaker 2: we're gonna do that. That's so random and so odd.

55:19 Speaker 2: I don't think we've ever had any couple yeah do that.

55:27 Speaker 2: No one's needed the questions had to have Yeah, it

55:32 Speaker 2: had to have been coming.

55:33 Speaker 1: I know.

55:33 Speaker 2: Part of what Vic has said online is like, listen,

55:36 Speaker 2: I'm a black man who voted Democrat, I voted for Biden,

55:39 Speaker 2: I voted for Kamala, and I'm like.

55:41 Speaker 1: Quiet during this interview. Let it talk.

55:46 Speaker 2: So I don't know, it's didn't let it talk. So yeah,

55:50 Speaker 2: So again, it's just everything about it didn't seem organic.

55:54 Speaker 2: Let me put it that way. Yes, it didn't seem organic.

55:56 Speaker 2: It just seemed like again I was saying, why are

55:58 Speaker 2: people saying their plans and everything? And then it was like,

56:01 Speaker 2: you're not helpy with the allegations like this. So yes,

56:06 Speaker 2: it was a choice. And I don't want to say

56:07 Speaker 2: that again, but that's what it was. And I personally,

56:10 Speaker 2: for someone who was reading for them, was disappointed. But

56:12 Speaker 2: for people who saw it.

56:13 Speaker 1: Them all away, ID but they saw them all the way,

56:18 Speaker 1: it still doesn't make The reason that they're celebrating is

56:20 Speaker 1: because like, this was a choice. This was bad. Like

56:23 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, we can all agree now, like wow,

56:27 Speaker 1: poor decisions, poor choices. I don't think that this did

56:32 Speaker 1: the thing that you thought it did or was going to.

56:34 Speaker 1: I don't know what you thought it was going to do.

56:36 Speaker 1: I've actually rapped my brain around trying to figure out

56:40 Speaker 1: what it is that they were thought they most seriously

56:43 Speaker 1: like what we're trying to do, Like what was the accomplishment,

56:47 Speaker 1: like to get what group of people did you want

56:50 Speaker 1: to understand or benefit from accepting your relationship.

56:54 Speaker 5: I guess it just.

56:55 Speaker 1: Spreading the word.

56:56 Speaker 2: I guess the people who again, the people are ready.

56:59 Speaker 1: To lead through Love is Blind on Netflix, but the

57:03 Speaker 1: people a real persons an't even watching Love is Blind

57:05 Speaker 1: on Netflix because this is an abomination.

57:07 Speaker 2: But the people that are trying to turn already believe

57:10 Speaker 2: what they believe on there, right, They're already on that page.

57:14 Speaker 2: So it makes more sense that you were going with

57:17 Speaker 2: this we go on another channel because it's like, oh,

57:20 Speaker 2: we're trying to spread the faith because they think that.

57:23 Speaker 2: But to go and hear everything about this, I don't.

57:26 Speaker 2: I don't understand that makes sense.

57:28 Speaker 1: And I have a really high allergic reaction to things

57:32 Speaker 1: that don't make sense, Like when I can't understand the

57:34 Speaker 1: purpose beyond something, I can't but like I start malfunctioning.

57:38 Speaker 1: It really upsets me so much, like final segue of tonight,

57:45 Speaker 1: the malfunctioning of this season. It's just very difficult, jointed

57:49 Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills that I am having a sixty forty

57:58 Speaker 1: experience with, And I think that's terrible odds for Beverly Hills.

58:02 Speaker 1: Actually I've had worse times. But Tane, you're having a

58:07 Speaker 1: different experience watching this season. What how are you feeling

58:11 Speaker 1: about it? I my different experience is that. I'm not

58:15 Speaker 1: saying it's great.

58:16 Speaker 2: It's still like a little like uh nah, but but

58:20 Speaker 2: it's it's it's I don't feel as bad as everyone

58:24 Speaker 2: seems to feel about it, because I generally feel like

58:28 Speaker 2: the Housewife Show are going through a dip right now,

58:30 Speaker 2: all of them in general.

58:32 Speaker 1: I always say the best shows on Bravo.

58:34 Speaker 2: Are the Nun Housewives Show because they're bringing in and

58:37 Speaker 2: it's just fun. But the Housewives Show, they all seem

58:40 Speaker 2: to follow the same thing. We need to pick on

58:41 Speaker 2: one person and then do it forever. We saw that

58:44 Speaker 2: on Miami, we saw that on Salt Lake. We're seeing

58:48 Speaker 2: this right now. So to me, it's part of course

58:52 Speaker 2: that they're picking on one person. Granted, this one person is.

58:56 Speaker 1: Listen.

58:57 Speaker 2: This one person which is Amanda I ladies, the producers

59:02 Speaker 2: for the casting. She does not fit at all.

59:05 Speaker 1: There is no chemistry, she's not in.

59:07 Speaker 2: Their age bracket, she does not live on Earth, she

59:10 Speaker 2: does not speak Earth language. What was it the they

59:14 Speaker 2: purposely brought her here to be picked on? And now

59:18 Speaker 2: we have mother Kyle out here choosing to be with Amanda.

59:24 Speaker 2: Why and just really like doing too much against dere

59:27 Speaker 2: It's just weird.

59:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, the hurt and Erica gelato and gang up is crazy.

59:33 Speaker 1: That was really with Bananas. I was like, I don't

59:35 Speaker 1: want to watch this. This is fun.

59:37 Speaker 2: Can I tell you, Manny that the whole Erica Kyle

59:40 Speaker 2: relationship is still blowing my mind. I don't know everybody

59:43 Speaker 2: is moved past it. I have not moved past it.

59:45 Speaker 2: My memory is Erica and Renna calling out Kyle and Kyle,

59:50 Speaker 2: hating them so much, and I'm like, where did she

59:53 Speaker 2: become best friends? Because Kyle wants allies, Kyle wants me.

59:58 Speaker 2: Kyle and dried are not getting along because Deity was like,

1:00:01 Speaker 2: I'm not taking a ship anymore.

1:00:03 Speaker 1: I said this beafer on my show because Kyle bekase

1:00:09 Speaker 1: I wasn't the audience for that. It was not that deep.

1:00:12 Speaker 2: Yes, it was not that deep, like Kyle made it

1:00:15 Speaker 2: what she wanted it to be. But I said what

1:00:18 Speaker 2: I said on my show is Kyle became everything she

1:00:21 Speaker 2: said Lisa Van der Pump was. She said, Lisa Vanda

1:00:25 Speaker 2: Pump was playing chess and you know, treating her friends

1:00:28 Speaker 2: like that. You're doing the same thing. So now you're

1:00:31 Speaker 2: mad at Duri because Durit is like, I'm not doing

1:00:33 Speaker 2: this ship with you anymore, and now you're like still mad.

1:00:37 Speaker 2: Kyle sees herself losing her grip. I'm just gonna tell you, guys,

1:00:41 Speaker 2: Kyle really gets on my nerves. Like Kyle annoys me

1:00:43 Speaker 2: because Kyle case.

1:00:47 Speaker 1: Down a.

1:00:48 Speaker 2: See, Kyle's identity is like, oh, I'm a mom, I'm

1:00:54 Speaker 2: a wife. She's lost both things now. Not she's still

1:00:57 Speaker 2: a mom, don't get me wrong, but she's an empty

1:00:59 Speaker 2: nester and she doesn't know who she is and she's

1:01:02 Speaker 2: just like grappling right now and then seeing like, listen,

1:01:05 Speaker 2: there are people who love Kyle, but you know, people

1:01:08 Speaker 2: are just like, what is.

1:01:09 Speaker 1: Kyle still doing here? Why is she here?

1:01:10 Speaker 2: Kyle cannot stand to not be liked, so all this

1:01:15 Speaker 2: going on, She's just trying to figure all this out,

1:01:17 Speaker 2: and it's just a hot mess. That whole season when

1:01:20 Speaker 2: she had her friend who did not want to be

1:01:23 Speaker 2: named on the show. Wait, I'm sorry her friend who

1:01:26 Speaker 2: wanted to be named, she wanted to get a tattooed

1:01:28 Speaker 2: with and then they did a video teasing us.

1:01:30 Speaker 1: But I'm sorry.

1:01:31 Speaker 2: They don't want to be mentioned at all, and they

1:01:34 Speaker 2: don't want people to know that they're.

1:01:38 Speaker 1: They're a gay in their industry. But we did a

1:01:41 Speaker 1: music video. Okay.

1:01:43 Speaker 2: I don't know how Kyle didn't know that she was

1:01:46 Speaker 2: using her for clout.

1:01:47 Speaker 1: I just it was so obvious. But hey, what do

1:01:49 Speaker 1: I know?

1:01:50 Speaker 2: Anyways?

1:01:53 Speaker 1: Oh, I've found that new for germ. Y'all Betty gets

1:01:56 Speaker 1: sick of me. I'm asking Sern anytime she's available, you

1:02:00 Speaker 1: never to do next season, y'all available, dratile, That's all

1:02:04 Speaker 1: I ever want to do because I don't understand how

1:02:06 Speaker 1: y'all see this girl. I just she's not consistent.

1:02:11 Speaker 2: Last season, she said Duri and I were not really friends,

1:02:15 Speaker 2: like that we went on one trip.

1:02:16 Speaker 1: This episode, I believe he said me, myself and Erica

1:02:21 Speaker 1: are the closest to Dureid. I'm like, huh, and why

1:02:25 Speaker 1: is that true? If you also are saying that you're

1:02:28 Speaker 1: close to p K, that's why you were texting him

1:02:34 Speaker 1: and not not texting him, Like, well, William p K

1:02:38 Speaker 1: are really close? How are you that close if he's

1:02:40 Speaker 1: not your really close friend's husband. You know what I'm saying.

1:02:44 Speaker 1: So I think I don't text my non close friends husband's.

1:02:49 Speaker 1: That don't make no sense.

1:02:50 Speaker 2: I think d phrased it very well like far b

1:02:53 Speaker 2: it for me to support Dure, but I'm I'm team

1:02:56 Speaker 2: Durit on this one where she says, I I don't

1:03:00 Speaker 2: know why you're having a really hard time supporting me,

1:03:03 Speaker 2: and I'm like that that ding ding ding, That's just

1:03:05 Speaker 2: what it is. It doesn't matter what it is. Kyle

1:03:08 Speaker 2: just can't just shut up and be like, you know what,

1:03:11 Speaker 2: I don't even care if you're wrong. You're going through

1:03:12 Speaker 2: a hard time. I'm on your side. That's all because

1:03:16 Speaker 2: she's nickpicking about everything. She's like, oh, she's spending too

1:03:19 Speaker 2: much money. Oh she's doing this. And again Deury brings

1:03:22 Speaker 2: up a good point.

1:03:23 Speaker 1: Kyle.

1:03:23 Speaker 2: You stop drinking, you started working out, you were eating clean,

1:03:27 Speaker 2: you were doing all that. No one said, hey, you're

1:03:30 Speaker 2: being weird. Why are you doing all this stuff. It

1:03:32 Speaker 2: was a change in your life. That was how you

1:03:34 Speaker 2: chose to deal with it. Because, yes, being late is annoying.

1:03:38 Speaker 2: I will always support that. But that's how Dey has

1:03:40 Speaker 2: always been. But even if she's doing all of these things,

1:03:44 Speaker 2: she's going through a hard time. Now if this is

1:03:47 Speaker 2: one year later, we're still doing this.

1:03:49 Speaker 5: Everyone's been through that. Erica went through this, like I

1:03:52 Speaker 5: just Kyles, Yeah, that was ridiculous.

1:04:01 Speaker 1: And was if you have basically done your entire this

1:04:04 Speaker 1: entire season, making me want to fast forward through the

1:04:08 Speaker 1: not so I don't throw up, because you're having such

1:04:10 Speaker 1: a lot a jolly good time being separated. It's just

1:04:14 Speaker 1: going so well. You're not bothered. Mo's not bothered. The

1:04:17 Speaker 1: girls are fine, You're fine. You're getting makeup towels for

1:04:20 Speaker 1: the hood, for the hoes to come and wipe the

1:04:23 Speaker 1: makeup off there. You're like, okay, got it. You're getting pillows,

1:04:26 Speaker 1: like okay, you're having a beautiful time. So for her

1:04:30 Speaker 1: to be like I'm separated and you don't see me

1:04:32 Speaker 1: changing everything about you could kiss my ass. She was

1:04:37 Speaker 1: very glad to see Dre give Kyle a harder time

1:04:41 Speaker 1: this episode than normal than usual, Like she gives her

1:04:45 Speaker 1: all enough time this season, but this was just like

1:04:48 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and told Erica you're gonna wait

1:04:51 Speaker 1: because I can only handle one at a time if

1:04:53 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this right. And so she gave Kyle

1:04:55 Speaker 1: the business and she let her know and like Kyle

1:04:59 Speaker 1: is upset it through this go around because she won't

1:05:04 Speaker 1: let her nippick and criticize Deiy, like won't let Kyle

1:05:10 Speaker 1: nickpick her the way she will let or apparently accept

1:05:13 Speaker 1: criticisms or feedback from other people like Bouse or Rachel

1:05:19 Speaker 1: and to Dari shuts that down real quickly because Kyle

1:05:22 Speaker 1: brings it up like four times, and I was like,

1:05:23 Speaker 1: you're annoyed me. She seems mad about it.

1:05:28 Speaker 2: She's like, oh, like Bose are best friends or whatever

1:05:30 Speaker 2: the heck they want to say. I'm like, yeah, have

1:05:32 Speaker 2: you seen your behavior towards her? Why would she think you.

1:05:37 Speaker 1: Trust me? Except for the whole time we spent last

1:05:40 Speaker 1: season about the text messaging and whatnot, And when she

1:05:42 Speaker 1: told you she don't trust you, I remember that I

1:05:45 Speaker 1: was there. And then now you're like when you and

1:05:48 Speaker 1: Bose get so close, when me and you did not

1:05:50 Speaker 1: when we fell out, because you don't you're mean and

1:05:54 Speaker 1: you seem to want to be mad at me for

1:05:56 Speaker 1: whatever and not support me. And if I have to

1:05:59 Speaker 1: say you don't support me, you're having a really hard

1:06:02 Speaker 1: time supporting me. I don't think that you should be

1:06:05 Speaker 1: asking you get to ask me why I don't trust

1:06:08 Speaker 1: you to give me criticism or feedback. I don't think

1:06:11 Speaker 1: it's coming from a good place, Like you're mad that

1:06:14 Speaker 1: you're like, well, Amanda, you're talking about me behind my back. Literally,

1:06:18 Speaker 1: every time I hear about how you feel about me,

1:06:21 Speaker 1: it's from somebody else. That's not nice.

1:06:24 Speaker 2: You know what, I think Kylo is mad at I

1:06:26 Speaker 2: think she's mad that the newbies are coming and gravitating

1:06:29 Speaker 2: towards Durret and not taking her side because bos came

1:06:32 Speaker 2: on and then went with Dere and thinks like she's

1:06:35 Speaker 2: the best thing ever. Rachel is now on, thinks that

1:06:38 Speaker 2: Dured is the best thing ever. And Kyle is just like,

1:06:41 Speaker 2: how why not?

1:06:42 Speaker 1: Because Rachel's also going through a divorce and it's not cute,

1:06:46 Speaker 1: it's it's messy, and it's a man who wants to

1:06:49 Speaker 1: be out imputed in the swing and stick around and

1:06:52 Speaker 1: do whatever, and doesn't have any regard for her feelings.

1:06:55 Speaker 1: That it's like bad kids, and Rachel is going through

1:06:57 Speaker 1: something similar, and Kyle is like, no, Kyle, you just

1:07:01 Speaker 1: started to brand yourself as the most perfect separated person

1:07:05 Speaker 1: on earth to spight deried. You couldn't bank on the

1:07:08 Speaker 1: fact that a cooler hip or Nubi was gonna come

1:07:11 Speaker 1: on the show who's also good and divorced and was

1:07:13 Speaker 1: going to identify with guess what not that, because that's

1:07:17 Speaker 1: not most a lot of people's experience. You're very, very blessed.

1:07:20 Speaker 1: We know. Well.

1:07:22 Speaker 2: I think the thing is Durit and Rachel are honest

1:07:25 Speaker 2: about it. I don't think Kyle is being honest. Kyle

1:07:28 Speaker 2: thinks that deep down, she thinks she and Mo are

1:07:30 Speaker 2: going to get back together, that man does not want

1:07:33 Speaker 2: to get back together. She thinks hers is going to

1:07:35 Speaker 2: be different, and I'm like, it's not like you better

1:07:40 Speaker 2: face reality, and for her.

1:07:41 Speaker 1: Sake, I hope he doesn't read ugly.

1:07:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope he doesn't get ugly, because then the

1:07:46 Speaker 2: truth is gonna come out. Because even before the separation, right,

1:07:49 Speaker 2: she Durita is right, he presented like everything was perfect

1:07:53 Speaker 2: and then whatever happened. And then now you're like, oh,

1:07:56 Speaker 2: we're getting a separation. So now if things turn up,

1:07:59 Speaker 2: because she thinks is not gonna do her dirty, but

1:08:01 Speaker 2: I think she forgets that don't pay with his money.

1:08:04 Speaker 1: He does not know you don't and he's not going

1:08:09 Speaker 1: to separate from it like number one real estate agency,

1:08:12 Speaker 1: like globally he's doing that thing. He is not. I

1:08:15 Speaker 1: don't know what you think this is, but he wants

1:08:18 Speaker 1: to go out and have fun, so you might want

1:08:21 Speaker 1: to figure it out. I don't want to get yourself

1:08:24 Speaker 1: on one of them through the LGBTQ than one of them,

1:08:28 Speaker 1: bigger ticket community girl's fangil horizons. While he's having his fun,

1:08:34 Speaker 1: you have yours. I would say, go back in, renegotiate

1:08:37 Speaker 1: the terms, be happier. He can stop being means of

1:08:40 Speaker 1: your friends.

1:08:41 Speaker 2: And that's the thing. If Kyle just was herself. Kyle

1:08:45 Speaker 2: is a backbitch in her own right, a star. She's

1:08:49 Speaker 2: an she's the og of the Beverly Hills like you have.

1:08:54 Speaker 2: You are not tied to mold by any means, like

1:08:57 Speaker 2: I think more people know who she is.

1:09:00 Speaker 1: Is then mo so honestly, honestly because Mauricio is Kyle's husband, yes,

1:09:09 Speaker 1: so I wish you would just lean into it and

1:09:12 Speaker 1: you just see it's big because Mauricio is Kyle's husband.

1:09:15 Speaker 1: But you didn't hear that from me.

1:09:18 Speaker 2: So all this is just I don't know. I don't

1:09:20 Speaker 2: know what's happening, but it's unfortunately I don't know.

1:09:24 Speaker 1: But listen, listen, Kyle, You've never looked worse. It always

1:09:28 Speaker 1: goes downhill for you, and I think you made a

1:09:30 Speaker 1: very good point and came about how it's it really

1:09:33 Speaker 1: is giving lusavand the pump and how everything you got

1:09:36 Speaker 1: on her that faithful day. We are in your kitchen, babes.

1:09:40 Speaker 1: This is that moment. We are in your kitchen, around

1:09:43 Speaker 1: that you know counter, around that that island, and it's

1:09:47 Speaker 1: about to be goodbye to read. Okay, but a goodbye Kyle,

1:09:50 Speaker 1: because it's it's not given what you think it's giving.

1:09:54 Speaker 1: I don't like watching this version of her a friend

1:09:59 Speaker 1: and only like look on allies and choosing Erica of

1:10:03 Speaker 1: all allies, the gold legos pol She don't got a soul,

1:10:06 Speaker 1: there's nothing there. This is Erica's paycheck, Eric, Like, who

1:10:10 Speaker 1: do I need to She's hanging on what she needed

1:10:15 Speaker 1: to do today. By she's a good shift. She's a

1:10:17 Speaker 1: good shift girl. But you know, floater, Erica, floater, they'll produce. Like, Okay,

1:10:22 Speaker 1: so today we need you to be with Pile. You're

1:10:23 Speaker 1: gonna go get ice cream with you, Red and you're

1:10:25 Speaker 1: gonna air some grievances. Okay, gotcha and like love that

1:10:29 Speaker 1: for her. Come on, get a bag Tane, thank you

1:10:34 Speaker 1: so much for being here. Everything's talking with me today

1:10:38 Speaker 1: about all of this mess. These we watched. There are

1:10:42 Speaker 1: some wild women on TV having a bomb ass time

1:10:46 Speaker 1: now again. And you said, you mentioned that, you know,

1:10:50 Speaker 1: the shows that are not house Us on Bravo are

1:10:53 Speaker 1: absolutely you know where it's at right now. What shows

1:10:57 Speaker 1: are you watching?

1:10:59 Speaker 2: Southern Has Fatality, Summer House, Top Chef, Ladies of London,

1:11:06 Speaker 2: so all of them, honestly, all the shows on Bravo

1:11:09 Speaker 2: that are not Housewives, I'm watching them below Deck down Under.

1:11:12 Speaker 1: I'm on it, so yeah, excellent. And what are you

1:11:16 Speaker 1: covering right now on your podcast?

1:11:18 Speaker 2: On my podcast right now, I am covering Love is

1:11:22 Speaker 2: Blind Sweden. We're wrapping it up with the weddings coming up.

1:11:25 Speaker 2: And I am covering Welcome to Platfield that's going to

1:11:28 Speaker 2: be starting next week, so checking that out. And if

1:11:33 Speaker 2: you want any documentaries, you can check out the Patreon,

1:11:35 Speaker 2: Patreon dot com.

1:11:37 Speaker 1: Sash also called.

1:11:38 Speaker 2: M AFS recently just covered Inside the Menosphere, so.

1:11:42 Speaker 1: You can check you guys. Love that all right, y'all,

1:11:46 Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening. You know where to

1:11:48 Speaker 1: find me on all the things at mixing with MANI

1:11:51 Speaker 1: M I X I G W I T H M

1:11:53 Speaker 1: A N I And it's always you know, take care

1:11:56 Speaker 1: of yourself and at least somebody else. If you can't

1:11:59 Speaker 1: know do your best, stay in the house. Guess is astronomical?

1:12:04 Speaker 1: Can you bring yourself? Love you, babe,