230. SLOMW Emergency Update w/ Kaya (BWB x MWM Crossover)

Speaker 1: Sounds rugged.

Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologists out there is Sugarl Moni and you are in the Mix with Mani, the show where you get your Bravo news, your pop culture news, your TV news. Child. We mix it all up every single week with guests and you know, just me talking to myself and the ether alike. This this is an emergency episode. Me and Kaya from Bravo We're Black had to get together. We were texting, like what is going on in Utah? So what you're about to hear is a joint release episode for Bravo We're Black and The Mix with Moni, with Me and Kaya talking about all the news coming out of Utah right now, with the Secret Lives and Normal Wives of season four airings, season five filming, and Bachelorette being done and premiering soon.

Speaker 2: Baby, There's a lot going on, so stay tuned, take a listen.

Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, Hello, I know I got some things to tell you, and I know I got some belt to put to ask for Aaron and Kendrick for the Karen Awards that they decided to release on the day before the Oscars. We will talk about that later. Mani. If you have not heard the episode. You need to listen to it before you go to sleep because they show the blackest part of their eyes. Right now, I have Moni with me. Hello, welcome back to Bravo. We're black film. This is actually a dual episode, okay, because there is so much white ghettleness going down that we had to get in the mix.

Speaker 3: Okay, how are you? How you doing? Speak to the girls so we can get into it.

Speaker 1: I know, I understand, I'm good.

Speaker 2: I'm good. Long story, short life, strying of life. And so we watching these shows, I mean honestly, Secret Lives and Mormal Wives and all of them could not come at a more perfect time to binge and get into and baby, it's like the hits just keep coming with them, so I'm ready to get into it.

Speaker 3: A choice of words, A choice of words that way, I just realized, No, thank you for literally like that was a great choice of words that you just use. Wow, where do we start? I want to start by asking you have you finished season four yet?

Speaker 2: I have not finished season four yet. I'm about halfway through. I'm still going. It's because every episode I'm like more and more flabbergastic, and then like I have found myself skipping around more. So it's perfecably taking me longer to finish it than it hasn't passed seasons because with the inclusion, that consistent, persistent, committed inclusion of these men in every goddamn episode and the pushing of dad talk on us, I have resorted to having to fast forward through those scenes because I genuinely don't care what a group of men have to say about anything.

Speaker 2: I don't want to hear their whining and complaining about their wives being more successful and desirable than them. I don't want to hear it, so I don't even care when they get together and have dinner.

Speaker 1: So it's taking me a little bit longer.

Speaker 2: I'm now doing like maybe two EPs a day instead of like three to five EPs a day.

Speaker 3: And you know what's so sad, because I wanted to do the same thing because dad talk is I won't spend my last breaths on this earth literally trying to abolish dad talk.

Speaker 1: But I can't.

Speaker 2: It can't be overstated how unnecessary this entire concept is for me to even be involved in.

Speaker 1: I don't know about it.

Speaker 3: The absolute worst thing about it is that they will reveal some of the most shocking plot points during a dad talk meet up.

Speaker 2: So, yeah, I noticed big, big things end up happening, and I gotta go back like three thirteen seconds three times to just get the gist and be like, oh Dakota, and they, oh yeah, I.

Speaker 1: Just it's just, you know, I hate them.

Speaker 3: He a head so wide on a man, and.

Speaker 1: What is that? What's going on?

Speaker 4: He's like like the character of a cartoon. He DIDs the wider his head gets bro and.

Speaker 2: I, yes, I don't remember him looking this troll like I don't I remember him being taller.

Speaker 3: I remember him being more sculpted, like I remember his hair being a reasonable like fackness. It's like he's trying to hold onto his hair so he doesn't have to go to Turkey. But it's like you need to at least like shit, like fit it out a little bit, fit it out a little bit.

Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is this is like he looks like a little troll. His head looks wider, his shoulders look stockier, his body looks shorter.

Speaker 1: He gets more annoying and they.

Speaker 3: Had to it's not helping, And Jesse gets more annoyed with him every time, and she's like but my millions. And I'm like, damn, girl, I get it.

Speaker 2: It is cheaper to keep her. So it's cheaper to keep her. And by her, I mean Jordan, I do get it. She's like, I'm she kind of like she's having a similar moment to Candy, you know what I mean. She's like, I really don't feel like I want to.

Speaker 2: I don't really want to go backwards. And I don't want to cut up a big part of what I made back then and give it to him. I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. And so she's like toying with the idea because I also saw that, you know, over the weekend she got the Reality Virtual Reality Awards or whatever at the page six or whatever, and Shortan presented it to her or something, and I.

Speaker 1: Was like, why is he here?

Speaker 2: Like, even if they are still together, I don't want you on the stage.

Speaker 1: I'm here to watch hot moms with middle parts and long bad extensions do dances and yell at each other about brand deals. That's why I'm here. Why are you speaking, sir? I don't care.

Speaker 3: Men should be not even seen and they're not hurt. But just like men should be swiping their cards and not seeing our herd stop. And the problem is is that Jordan he you can tell that he's spiteful. He is out.

Speaker 1: This is.

Speaker 3: Everything. Yeah, and Demmy, oh my god, girl, you picked the worst time to show your ass because the way that we still had a season and without you and now you know, season five might be paused, but uh, we're still gonna We're gonna come back to that. You picked the wrong time to show your hand. I think it was between seasons what two and three you were trying to negotiate and trying to get Jesse kicked the fuck off, and now you're here and they're showing the chair every single time.

Speaker 1: Is hilarious.

Speaker 2: The crickets in Then every episode Jimmy declined to the interview for this season.

Speaker 1: Oh no, oh.

Speaker 3: You you signed that release and you cast that check. You and Brett m So.

Speaker 1: What's in it?

Speaker 2: Jimmy is a fame whore and she's gleefully walking around New York with Whitney right now on her, on her because that's the only person that will talk to her, and Whitney is at least having a moment, and for whatever reason, Whitney is well I know why. I think because Whitney is still so like involved in her religion like that, he's so forgiving, my God, Her and Jacob want to forgive every goddamn body. They're just like forgiving, and we just had to nat forgiveness. She's a liar, nam He's a liar, She's a weirdo.

Speaker 2: Get rid of her. She's not a good friend. I'm sorry, and Demmy looks so happy flaunting around like, look, people still want to talk to me and teams. He still loves me, even though I'm no longer on the show. Girls are over, Taylor and them are out here fighting men. Okay, yeah, we've stepped it up. Let's get into it. Oh side note, like with Secret Lives of Mormon Wise, if y'all didn't know, Mikayla and Jase.

Speaker 3: Are separated, which is crazy, uh, considering that it should have been just about and Jordan's separated. But at the same time, like I said to you, you cannot heal in the place that you got sick. So I'm glad that they are taking some time apart, and I'm sorry. They just need to.

Speaker 1: They need a.

Speaker 3: Divorce because she was a child and he was way.

Speaker 1: Too, you and he. I think she's starting to see it.

Speaker 2: Now that they Yeah, now that they're separated, and you know, she's had she realized she's had all these babies. Also, now she's over twenty five, her full frontal lobe has finished forming, her brain is finished developing. I think that that's not a coincidence that she's like in a new house now, separating, getting her life together away from him, so that she can open the door to that.

Speaker 3: He like shout out to her, hopefully Jenna's next. She is still you know, she almost gets it. But at the same time, I'm like, ooh, that religion has such a choke hold on you, even when And that's why I was kind of upset that she got eliminated before Whitney, because if she had stayed on Dancing with the Stars, I feel like she would also be spending some time apart from Zach for real, real and not.

Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, the problem is Whitney's.

Speaker 2: Whitney's marriage is not as toxic as some of He's.

Speaker 1: No hers.

Speaker 2: Honestly, her husband, like Connors, is just like whatever, the opposite of the troll that Jordan is.

Speaker 1: That's Connor. You just just like a sweet little bunny rabbit.

Speaker 4: It's a little bit gay, and you'll be fine a little bit, and and whatever.

Speaker 1: Everybody loves you.

Speaker 2: You think you're great and supports it and backs up a house and moves from Utah to California, from California to New York for his wife's career and dreams. Meanwhile, Jordan over here trying to start whole ship to be like my wife. You're not the only person that can be on TikTok.

Speaker 1: Let's start. You're jealous, it's weez. Get you a connor. He yeah, he wants to be heard.

Speaker 3: It's weird, weird, Okay, last night, this is when the news hit. I don't even want to mention the black excellence in this because that's what I found out though as f as I'm like Jordan's was accepting his oscar and I'm gonna do a separate episode because that's just two ghetto to touch the sacredness of what happened last night and the oscars was something right? Let me just

Speaker 3: news hits the internet. I don't know if it was while first, I don't know if it was this girl. I think it was this one girl. I don't even know her Instagram. I lost it because my timeline refreshed news hits Instagram that Frankie uh okay Taylor, Freanky Taylor. I needed Taylor. Frankie, Paul and Dakota done got the Secret Lives of Mormon Wise to stop filming for weeks now because of an incident.

Speaker 2: As a domestic violence in today in all this is how the show Mother Tubby, Yeah, we are back where we're at a square one I posted even today with this news it says, so it's pretty safe to assume she and with whatever man she leaves that mansion with in la If. Y'all were wondering before because they slept together right before she looked for the show. They even asked Jesse Palmer, the host of The Batch Rat, about that, and he was like, all that matters is what happens from filming on girl. They stopped filming and now we're back to where we were to get back to Utah and that's where it goes back to the Thota And that's really kind of crazy for me.

Speaker 2: I don't know what is wrong honestly with both of them, but definitely with that girl, I really don't.

Speaker 3: She don't stop and y'all are trying to not y'all listening, But a lot of the people of the internet were trying to drag me and say that this is nowhere near baddies. This is not like Kashan and b Actually, this is a little bit worse.

Speaker 1: This was the Jocelyn and Stevie of Utah. It's Sie Love and hip hop.

Speaker 3: And Blueface whoever you want to compare them to. Is ghetto And you guys only want to use that word when it comes to black people. But guess what I'll say it is. I'll say ghetto.

Speaker 1: This is ghetto. Ok. This is her baby daddy.

Speaker 2: They're constantly fighting, The cops are being called multiple times, drinkings involved. He sleeps with anyone that moves she can't. He lets she lets him hit whenever he wants like it.

Speaker 1: Please. This is the rundown.

Speaker 2: Of Literally, if you are of the old school reality TV VH one world, this is peak love and hip Hop Atlanta Jocelyn versus Mimi, where Joscelyn was just acting a full, Momi was acting a full and Stevie was over there looking like a rat, just like you know, marking his mashing his hands together and and snickering, but like you would constantly be like, y'all do not need to be together. Jocelyn and Stevie would break up, makeup, break up, makeup, breakup, makeup, and then go back and.

Speaker 1: Forth with the fighting. They would fight.

Speaker 2: She would fight him like a grown man and would fight someone another grown man, and Mona would have to get the people to break it up.

Speaker 1: What's going on and know what's happening here?

Speaker 3: H one to who this death was happening. We went from Atlanta to Utah, in Utah, and we moved it in Utahs. We just got it in a different setting with different colored people, so like ghetto touches.

Speaker 1: All.

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Speaker 3: This is a person who has two different baby daddies three odes got arrested. Is going let's sluck with her baby daddy literally break before she left for the Bachelorette spoiler alert, she picks Doug, duging her get engaged. She dates Dug for a few weeks the whole time she was talking to Dakota. Her and Dakota got back together around November December, which damn the show just finished and had pets together ever since. In February, apparently she was fighting with Dakota. Now there's a bunch of different stories, but the thing that led to this being leaked apparently is that she was fighting with Dakota and the roommate called the police and then they stopped filming.

Speaker 3: There are two things out there. One is being said that Dakota went Mia because there was an incident, another separate incident. This is all alleged a separate incident. They were riding in the car, something spilled on Dakota, him and her start tussling and he left and the Quota, I mean, production hasn't seen Dakota since then, So that's one. The second one is that Mom Talk allegedly does not want to film with Taylor because they feel like they are enabling her. And if you watch The Secret Lives and Woman Wives season four that is currently streaming that just came out, they definitely express the same thoughts because we all know that homegirl that always gets back with her baby daddy or her boyfriend, and you know, you just you feel like you don't even want to talk to her or tell her anything because she's gonna go back.

Speaker 3: But this is different because one there are kids involved, and two this is now the second time the police has been getting involved. There have been more details that come out via TMZ and via dumint and the TikTok people. So another thing that I heard, they basically don't have a show if Dakota does not come back because Hulu has been basically protecting Taylor Frankie Paul. Taylor Frankie Paul has had d d CFS, dhs, whatever you guys call it in your state. The people that clung get the kids, DA Koda called on her multiple times and they have a record of that, and allegedly Hulu has been you know, cooling, stoking the fire, cooling the fire, whatever you want to call it, protecting her.

Speaker 3: And they really just want to keep on to Taylor Franky Paul, not just because of the secret lized of Wrman Wise, which is obviously a huge, huge flagship show that I see getting you know, spin offs and all that, but she's also the Bachelorette, and she was supposed to be the one that shakes up the Bachelorette, the thing, the breadth of fresh air that they needed this entire time, and I was ready, and instead they shouldn't. But this is the thing. You look stupid because know this girl. Y'all literally know this girl.

Speaker 3: You sat there and you saw her on the very first episode go to jail for whatever incident happened while her children were in that fight. Allegedly her daughter allegedly may have gotten harmed in the first fight. Allegedly, I'm just saying allegedly. Even though the papers are out there. You saw that. You saw how her and Dakota are done going back and forth. You saw her post on TikTok, exposing people calling people hos, calling people, bitch calling people skanks, calling people, telling people business, doing all that like the whole time.

Speaker 3: Taylor has not stopped being Taylor at all, and it has.

Speaker 2: Always been Dakota at the center of all of her poor decision making. She would never she'll never stop like obsessing over what could have been and the fact that she's not gonna be with any of her baby's fathers. That is something that she cannot get past, she sees herself. She sees that as the most ghetto behavior that she could have, the most deplorable behavior that she could have, is not being with one of her child's fathers that she's literally not even looking at how so terrible it is to be in this relationship.

Speaker 2: Just because you had another baby with this man does not mean you have to stay with this man.

Speaker 1: Yes, you made poor choices in your twenties. Move the hell on.

Speaker 2: You have got to for the sake of your kids. Would you want your children to be in this cycle?

Speaker 3: No? And it's crazy because you see in the show later on, you'll see when you finish shit, obviously this is getting a little bit spooled for you.

Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but like, it's okay, it's okay. I'm on the journey no matter what. And her oh god, hear and her mom.

Speaker 3: Go, and because her dad had had passed away in Twiloy fifteen, two sixteen, I think, and hear and her mom go. She finds out she has siblings, heard her mom go and meet her dad's best friend, and basically she finds out that her dad was abusive to her mom. And she's like, oh my god, it all makes sense now, and I'm like, maybe this will be Michael, maybe this will be the thing that like clicks. And it wasn't. Of course it wasn't. But I'm like, but at least a little bit, like let's get her out of the environment, you know how when your girl is down and you're like, you know what, let's lead this house, like let's stop bedrotting and let's even go get some ice cream.

Speaker 3: Just changing settings is that will help a little bit. So I'm thinking, Okay, she's gonna go to this big ass house. She literally was late being the bachelorette because she was fucking Dakota, and they show it on the show, and y'all, ye still decided to have Taylor Franky Paul as a bachelotte because you wanted the ratings.

Speaker 4: So now on that and now we'll look at you. You've been spoiled, but it's spoiled.

Speaker 1: And not gonna be watched. This is the Bachelor Now.

Speaker 2: Nation is back in the exact same place as they were before, where they needed a fresh shake up and nobody was watching. If not worse, because the bank, if you're banking on the audience of the Secret Lives and Mama's watchers, if we know that at the end of the day, in real time, she's fighting with Dakota and having a domestic abuse of violence CPS. Whatever, it's because they're back in the home together. So whatever happens, even if you say off the internet and you don't know who the Bachelor Aurette goes down with, you were excited.

Speaker 2: It hasn't even aired yet, and you already know she back on the same bullshit with her ex boyfriend and baby daddy. That's how you now know the they're back together because in your mind, why would why would what man would stay if she's slapping face of.

Speaker 1: Her as boyfriend? You know what I'm saying, I would it's safe for me to was zoom.

Speaker 2: Oh they must not be together, her and whomever she leaves with, because how are you still slapping this nigga?

Speaker 3: And it exactly exactly because it's not during the exchange of ever it's not. And if it is, we call in the room. This is literally the roommate allegedly calling. This is him filing multiple reports about the kids. This is protect yourself, sir, got ah. And they say he has a whole lot of proof evidence of her bloodying him, like that's she'd be beating ass. Like I'm talking to.

Speaker 2: Girl, if you have to beat somebody up to be with you, why are you doing that? What is the what is wrong with you? You have thirty men?

Speaker 1: What happening That TikTok boy that I'm looking at, I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 3: The deep voice, the deep voice, down home boy.

Speaker 2: I know he's like so Blad from Yeah, He's so,

Speaker 2: He's like, you know what.

Speaker 4: God buken roll de live me away from you. He put her on the restricted exactly. It was in freaking saying but yeah.

Speaker 3: So he allegedly has a whole roster basically of evidence that she's been beating his ass. Allegedly, there's an influencer that you know that you know, dropped the deets to another influencer than that influencer went on Instagram and TikTok and talked about it. Now on TMZ, they are allegedly getting psychological evows the Bachelorte. It is still on schedule, which I'm like, of course it's still on schedule because you just paid all this fucking money. You just hyped this woman up, you spent the budget on her, and also you doubled down on her.

Speaker 1: Uh.

Speaker 3: The crazy part about it to me is like it would be one thing if we didn't know, and it was like a teaser for season five to see if the coder like showed up at the bachelorette house. I think that's what we're all really waiting.

Speaker 2: I think when we talked about her being the bachelorette, I think we probably put out a little episode or something, and I remember that my prediction was that at some point he flies out there like it just makes sense. I think I thought that was the man that comes to see her. And then because he dates somebody in real time for a little bit, he was dating somebody as well. You know, we also saw him, you know, yeah, you know, snuggling up with Brooks Nadter on her little shell over there.

Speaker 3: So he was bit do not do it. You just got your what was it the Pamela Anderson Show when she'd run on the beach, she got the watch, Baywatch. You just got your bay Watch. Please do not spend your time with Dakota. I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 2: I'll never No one should be spending time with Dakota. Also, he's not gonna stop. I honestly am like Taylor might need to check herself into I know she went to the therapy, but she got an addictive quality to her too. Because Dakota is not going to be off of this ride because he also is an addict, so like in in ex addict, but he's in recovery, you know, similar to the grand to the Grand dam. He's in lifetime recovery, in which case, yeah, so in which case he has to consistently be working those steps and he can't be around his triggers and he is constantly going to engage in a cycle with her.

Speaker 1: It's harder for him to get off the.

Speaker 2: Ride if he has that situation that is already battling that kind of addiction. I think she needs to make a smart choice for her kids. Your kids are gonna get taken from you and you will still be fighting with Dakota. Is this the life you want to live? And you have a whole other baby next month? I can't believe it because my life, my life twitch is I feel like has turned on. This is not where I would want to be, like, I would not want to be every wanting to be so different from myself.

Speaker 1: Why am I fighting this man? I think I would go like Miss Matt and be like, what in the world what phase? There's so many other men.

Speaker 2: I just had thirty men buying my attention and I'm fighting Dakota, bitch, I just had.

Speaker 3: A multi million dollar brand deal and you're about to fuck that up for me. That's that's what I don't be getting. Like I can understand, like you're in love with somebody and you know there's plenty offficient to see, but man, that's my fish. What I don't understand is the money part. Like, that's the part that I do not be getting.

Speaker 1: Do not fuck up your bag?

Speaker 2: Because also with this kind of stuff being so embarrassing, so the the wives now don't really want to film anymore with you. They're they're refusing to film with her. Whitney might be leaving Mamta or sitting SEK Moment Wives all together. She's handing at that all of that, and baby girl, they're gonna just stop asking you to hold stuff and do stuff you're hosting. You're on the red copper for the Oscars this year, baby, not that year that just you.

Speaker 3: Know, she was mad about that CNA.

Speaker 2: So don't like them teams headlines when they're trying to promote something else they don't want because then no one wants to watch her support. You know how the Midwestern moms get in the comments. I used to really like her until she just kept then putting your kids in it. Not a fan.

Speaker 3: Yes, you saw how fast I flipped on Blake Lively like a damn pancake. The first five minutes there are like, oh my god, justin the bitch is terrible. Blake Lively says she's a bitch on a red carpet like or an interview, and they're like, oh my god, Blake Lively is the worst woman alive.

Speaker 2: And I'm just like, damn okay, But that's not about that.

Speaker 3: So it says production on The Secret Lives Mormon Wives has been put on ice after allegations of child and spousal abuse, and we've learned that it's gotten so crazy that Taylor and Dakota have been ordered to get psyche valves.

Speaker 4: Which of them they.

Speaker 3: Will feel, Sources with direct knowledge tell TMZ. Dakota has called the damn it's bad as the KODA called, because Dakota has called the Utah Division of Child and Family Services more than a few times, alleging Taylor has been physically abusive to their son. Ever, who turns this week.

Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't even I got an hour trying to not believe him on that that's gonna.

Speaker 3: I saw wait, let me finish this. Our sources say that Taylor denies the allegation and Dakota has become frustrated that no action has been taken. Things came to a head late last month when the Taylor and Dakota were driving in his car and got into a heated argument. We're told a drink was spilled on the seat and on Dakota and he became enraged. Sources connected to the Taylor say he got physical with her. We're told Dakota called police and said Taylor was the one who got physical. Our Taylor sources say Dakota went mia for nearly three weeks after the car incident and that's why production stopped.

Speaker 3: He has an important part in the show and producers wanted to wait until he resurfaced. Sources connected to the show tell us a different story that cast members refused to continue filming despite producers wanting to keep filming because of the child and spousal abuse allegations separate from the car incident. Since DCFS had received numerous calls from Dakota allegend abuse. There's currently an open investigation, and we learned both Taylor and Dakota were under were ordered to undergo a psychic val.

Speaker 3: It has not been performed to say production is about to resume. It's unclear what Dakota will be having going forward.

Speaker 2: Keep him off the show and make her only film by herself or with the girls. I just think that that's fair or and I know this is a hot take, we hear me out. I think she should set out the rest of the season similar to Demi. I think she sits out the rest of the season. One thing about Taylor, though she liked to work, she's a workaholic. I see it in almost to the detriment, like she has to, but almost to the detriment like she feels like she can't ever slow down. Yes, because of her kids and everything, but also because she has to make something out of the mess that she's made.

Speaker 1: She has a lot of internalized shame, like a lot.

Speaker 3: I can't sit with it.

Speaker 2: She can't sit with it. She needs to constantly be working and moving. So I think that if she loses out on the rest of this season because of this behavior, I think you'll see a change of behavior. I don't think she wants to miss out on opportunities for herself or anyone else. Just the way I see herrect on the internet when she's choosing her children or something over stuff, she gets not even just fomo, she genuinely is like, I really want to be a part of this and do this for myself.

Speaker 1: She sees the opportunities all these other girls.

Speaker 2: Are getting when you If she sits out and realize realizes the only thing that she's that holding her back is her cycle of abuse with this man, is her connection with Dakota, and not just the commitment to be paying cole parents, she will, I think, start to reflect and get it. I think she needs to sit with the idea of losing something, and I think the production should say that and the next season you film with yourself, you feel with your family, you do not film with Dakota, or you're not on.

Speaker 1: I don't care.

Speaker 3: I just feel like Dakota needs to be off the show period, because it's not called The Secret Men of Utah.

Speaker 3: The dad talking in general needs to get it off. I don't care.

Speaker 2: We need to be focusing on the dad because awry, I think is when we started giving too much. I remember we talked about the reunion last season that stops eight hosted, and I was like, I didn't want to watch it because of sac that was one too. You're giving the men a whole segment without the women is unacceptable.

Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't want them here.

Speaker 2: They are supposed to have a ten second spot like any other housewives show or you know, a women on a casted show where the men come out for a minute. I don't even like when you and y'all love New Jersey and the men always being on the cast and upstairs, on the on the on the on the stage. I don't want to see that. I'm here for the wives, Okay, And I'm not shocked that the girlies don't want to film with missus Gurley anymore because, like also, all of them were raised Mormon. Half of them are still Mormon.

Speaker 2: They have forgiveness and grace up to a point, but they do not like things not seemingly looking pure looking, good looking, presentable, looking professional.

Speaker 1: Muscing up there.

Speaker 2: They're like, no, the last thing we need is them pulling our show because it's love and hip hop Utah.

Speaker 1: Okay, and y'all are on the phone glasses at each other.

Speaker 3: They went too far, like Okay, baby, you got your bachelorette check, and your bachelorette check is fatter than my Secret Lives of Mormon Wives check that you a.

Speaker 1: Macey didn't get a check.

Speaker 2: She's a new time. But what about Mikayla. But Kayla leaving Jay? She need a chat. We can't all wait for Taylor to In fact, I think it's exactly and I feel bad because Nakayla's even saying on the Internet that a lot of what her and Jase went through this season that led to where they are right now currently being separated, was cut.

Speaker 3: Out of It makes sense because it makes.

Speaker 2: Sense Taylor squanders away her bachelorette opportunity. She should be in trouble for that. I'm sorry she should miss out on something because you got This has to stop because I don't want her to leave the show. I don't want her to leave them talk altogether, I agree or whatever it's to know, I think she should be on the show. I think that she's gonna continue hood rap behavior no matter what go off. I think with Dakota is like Brittany and Jackson, it's too a point the Stasi and Jack's, it's to a point the Dakota is the Jack's Taylor of this And if you are a vant upon Brules Watcher from back in the day, we all got tired as well.

Speaker 2: How many times do you want to slap this man or hurt this man, or get into a fight with this man on the street.

Speaker 1: We don't want to see that. I want to see.

Speaker 2: Y'all do TikTok dances, talk about each other's extensions, go to each other's hydro jug and soda events.

Speaker 1: This is what I want. I want vapid TV.

Speaker 2: This is what I want. This is not vapid. This is making me nervous for the children. It's given when Proof got hurt, when Jackson was on, We're all coped up and fighting with Brittany and on the valley and we were like, why did.

Speaker 1: Y'all cast them?

Speaker 2: Why did they have to go walk hello? We were like, why did y'all let it go this far? Y'all been knew he was like that, y'all they never needed the film together, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3: Out of rehab and changing the camera around, like please be so for fucking real.

Speaker 2: It's him testing in rehab. Your a bitch, shit, sir, What did the therapist say about that.

Speaker 1: What did she say?

Speaker 3: I will never admit that he ate something, but if I was to anyways, I was a man. What do you think about the Bachelorette, especially now that the element of the DCS, you know, the children part came in, especially the violence like it's it's there's a difference between like domestic violence, but there's children being involved. And also I know that Hulu ABC Warner Brothers like they protect their people big, especially when they are a money maker like TFP. But the season is fully filmed. Obviously it's spoiled for people who know because now we know who she chooses, what happens, and also what happens in real time.

Speaker 3: But do you think that we are going to get the news that the Bachelorette is pulled? Because half of the fan base was excited like us, like oh finally, this is exactly what we need, and then the other half was like, who is this woman? They read about her, they hated her already, and then now they're going to read about her and see what she's doing now and say I'm definitely not watching, and then some people's mind can be changed. I also want to say, although I was excited that Taylor was going to be the Bachelorette.

Speaker 3: I was also the one who put the asterisk at the top that this is the woman that they fucking chose.

Speaker 2: You already gone to ghetto with ala mother.

Speaker 1: A clean bill of persons, right to come.

Speaker 3: Up on there, Like you couldn't even fucking wear braids.

Speaker 2: At one point, they used to think the Bachelor once like actability politics for white people. You gotta be like the prem Dela Creme, the primist and proper. They thought that what was it, Caitlin Bristow was a whore. I don't see them liking Taylor Frankie Paul then or now, Like they thought Caitlyn was a whore because she wanted to sleep with more than one man at fantasy suites. Okay, Taylor is sleeping with the man right before she leave, not in a relationship.

Speaker 3: You know out here, and they sure are they all what do you think about the Bachelorette? Like, do you think that my get.

Speaker 1: Worried for their ratings?

Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna pull it because they've already invested so much money. I think if they put out that that at piss poor season of Bachelor in Paradise.

Speaker 1: They will put out this season of the Bachelorette. There's no way they're pulling it.

Speaker 2: They already have way too many sponsors and things lined up that I think that they know that people are gonna watch. Even if they hate watch, they will watch it. It's me, I know what's gonna happen. I'm still gonna watch it. I want to know how bad I'm gonna give her the business next season of Secret Lives. When I watched this Bachelor show, see the men that are around, who she could have picked, who she does pick, and how you still go back to Dakota. I'm ready for the episode that I film or I record in like three months where I'm like, let's talk about how you still go back to Dakota even though you had this one, this one, this one, and this one.

Speaker 1: You sent this one home.

Speaker 2: You practice boundaries with this one, but you get home and start throwing pussy again at.

Speaker 1: The the man that got you out here, losing deals, losing coin and maybe losing your children and what it's not see to me and.

Speaker 2: She got I don't know what the Bachelor does after this though, I'm not gonna lie this.

Speaker 1: This was their fresh start, and I thought it made sense, but then now what now?

Speaker 2: What?

Speaker 3: Now who exactly? And I feel like y'all can y'all can literally switch posts and blame everything along Rachel Lindsay, but look at who y'all got y'all fucking ended up with. That's the crazy part about it. It's just literally where we were. And I was gonna call that man, Chris Hansen, Chris whatever from The Bachelorette got fired and he has this new he has this new Christian Bachelorette that he's going to be producing. But it's still like, do you understand who your fucking fan base is? Like, okay, risk, and you were taking that risk, but at the same time, you did not have You didn't give her enough time to actually like get into a rehab of a mental health facility, like something that's really going to separate her from Dakota and actually give her time to think about if she wants to be the Bachelorette.

Speaker 3: And the fact that Hulu is recording this and showing this right before the Bachelorette comes out is them telling us, y'all know she's gonna get back with Dakota, right They're.

Speaker 2: Trying to just so you got a devil down on their investment. They're gonna get the footage regardless. I mean ABC owns Hulu and all of them, so they're gonna get the footage on all angles. You're gonna see her pre Bachelorette, You're gonna see her do the Bachelorette, and you're gonna see her post Bachelorette. They're like, girl, we got it all full spectrum TFP, which I will say, this is a Teresa situation, this is a Nannie and some real big od situations. Without Taylor Frankie Paul for the entirety of a season, you don't have a good one.

Speaker 2: You do need her because that ratchet behavior follows her in places that are a little less dangerous.

Speaker 1: And we should see that.

Speaker 2: And I like that she's such an interesting foil in the friendships with all the girlies, depending on their relationships with each other. But I actually am proud of them for taking a stamp because they've always enabled her and let her get away with whatever, because she is such an important part of the show, like they've enabled the thing with Dakota. If they can curse out Jordan, they can curse out Dakota.

Speaker 3: Do we think that it really is them kind of like taking a stand because they feel that they've enabled her, or do we think that they get like like you said, with Mikayla, they get less of their stories shown because all of it is about Dakota and Taylor because they just Yeah.

Speaker 2: I think it's definitely that. I think it's that one thing. I think it's also the other thing. I think it's like if they are constantly saying that it's okay, it's okay, we let him film, we let him be around, we let him, but they're not giving him and her the same kind of vigor because that they've given like you know, like Jimmy and Brett or Jesse and Jordan, because they know that she's such an important part of the show and a mom talkt that the cameras are going to follow her.

Speaker 1: They're going to do it, so they need to.

Speaker 2: But that's all the more reasons to me why I'd be like, you're fucking up the back for the rest of us because.

Speaker 1: All you do is fight with Dakota.

Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't get anything else on air if all you're doing is fighting with Dakota. Do you like fighting with Dakota, because if so, it's at the detriment of all of us getting anything, including yourself, having a storyline at all outside of this man.

Speaker 1: And if not, then it's still costing us something.

Speaker 2: And they need to tell Dakota to goue f himself like they have no problem reading all the other men, and I don't think they read Dakota the same way because of their respect for Taylor and their friendship with Taylor, which I understand, but in this case, protect your coin, love, get your bag like. I really want to see Mikayla and jays Like go through the separation. I have been waiting and hoping for this girl to get her like her light switch.

Speaker 1: To go on, and it seems like it's happening.

Speaker 2: And now since I'm also gonna have to wait until next season to realize why or what happened, but the footage exists because something I didn't like about last season is that a lot of times they would flash back to other content and other scenes that they have already filmed black and white and mother, what.

Speaker 1: Did that mean? I wanted to see it, Lay and so and so sit down, I want to see it.

Speaker 3: Give me more episode.

Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm watching this ship exactly fifteen. Do you think how many we used to get of New Jersey when there was nothing girl? We watched shows.

Speaker 3: I don't have all that, all them rules, like what are we doing? Give me the footage, give me I don't do it like back in the day when they was like log on to Hulu dot com slash s l O or footage. I would be walking on com slash sl MW for our footage like, M well, I don't know, I I I don't know. Okay, So do we still want to see I know we're gonna watch it because that's just how who we are. But do we still want to see the Bachelorette at this point, especially with all that is happening and playing out in real time?

Speaker 3: And she just smiled on the on the Oscar's carpet like she go do it again? And Taylor looks like she bites people like I'm scared calling because me personally, I'm like, what about we just wrap up season five and you give me what you got there? Because at this point.

Speaker 1: I think that she just had big brother Cameras.

Speaker 3: Who is like putting their children in risk like that, go and try to find love because I've seen the sneak peek of the Bachelorette and she's kind of like, oh my god, if this makes me want to, you know, go home to my kids. And it's just like you got these kids, and you got one with Dakoda, and you were getting investigated for it, and it's just it's it's wild, and it's also I just.

Speaker 1: Doubt that she loves her kids. I do doubt that she loves she does.

Speaker 2: I don't think she loves herself enough to love her kids, trust to me and get herself out of this cycle for her kids.

Speaker 1: Like, it's not just for you.

Speaker 2: It's not that your kids need a daddy in the home News slash girlies raised kids every day. Kids need a parent that gives a hell, like that gives a shit and shows up. You can't show up if you're throwing bowls with Dakota in the parking.

Speaker 1: Lot, not a kid going eh the box feeling like that's not good for your kids.

Speaker 2: Like and they ever as someone who like grew up with parents that really did not like each other, and I knew that. I knew it, Like, you don't want to be around that environment your kids don't want to feel that they want to. They want too, healthy, happy parents. If being a part makes that possible, that's what they want.

Speaker 3: And ever, it's two years old, by the way, you guys like he's turning two this week. He don't even know.

Speaker 2: Maybe those memories are about to start happening a couple years.

Speaker 1: Okay, he gonna remember.

Speaker 3: Get out of here before my dad.

Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom threw a long chair my dad again.

Speaker 3: And it's funny like it's too but yeah, Taylor is I do not condone violence. I do not condone it at all, but I.

Speaker 2: Do condone white trash behavior for my entertainment. Yeah, but they went until that.

Speaker 3: Of the house, but not the next time. I'm saying, if it happens again, make sure it's when your parents have the kids. When Jeremy and Leanne got the kids, that's when you be like are you? Are you talking about you? That's what you do, but not when they with you. And also stop like, girl, how many if he's been hit before, If you've hit him upside the head before and it still didn't stop him, why If you watch the season, you'll see later on season where he has a realization that he's like, I'm gonna have to be the one to stop this because she will keep going, but I don't want to stop it because I still want her.

Speaker 3: And then he'll literally go and text another girl. It's it's the most mind But you guys, let us know what you think. We had to get on here and talk about this ghetto Rochester shit just aside know another story about mothers.

Speaker 1: It's poor white ghetto trash behavior.

Speaker 3: People that you know, people want to go to war and comment sections about and start to things about Hoodah Hodda. I think like a damn white trash demon. She's with Louis that Do from Netflix, That's what I call him.

Speaker 1: Was still with them.

Speaker 3: They closer together yesterday because a few days before what happened with Dakota and Taylor happened, which is I think that happened on February twenty fourth. On the twenty first, she was threatening to un alive herself and the baby mama had to get a restraining order, so Hooda, her boyfriend's ex girlfriend, and baby mama is seeking court ordered protection from the Love Island star, alleging Houda threatened to kill herself and tried to break into her home Nicole Olivera be lined it to court Thursday and filed for a restraining order against Houda, who she claims threatened her and Lewis's baby boy and broke into their Los Angeles building, and the documents obtained by TMZ because a lot of people were saying, this is me putting in it.

Speaker 3: A lot of people were saying, Oh, there's no there's no proof, there's no proof this didn't happen. Just making it up. You can just get a restraining order in California for no reason. Listen to this and the documents obtained by TMZ. Nicole claims hud A swore on her daughter's life, pot a daughter, she was going to kill herself, and then made a bunch of terrifying and extremely mentally unstable threats against herself, her daughter, and the Cole's son, which is Nicole and Louis son, before showing up to Nicole's home and breaking into the building.

Speaker 3: Nicole says the alleged thing that went down in February, and she says hood A threatened to knock their doors down. Oh, police were called TMS. This was where people were saying, well, why is there no record it's updated. TMZ reached out to LAPD, who confirmed a call came in on February twenty first, where the caller stated suspect was saying how she was going to door knock on all the doors, threatening to come back, and was also threatening suicide. The suspect was id'd as Hoodah. In the documents, Nicole says Hudda has also harassed her on social media and claims Hooda's actions have made her fear for her son's life and own safety.

Speaker 3: A judge signed off on a temporary restraining order and now Hooda is barred from getting within one hundred yards of Nicole her son and they're home. They reached out to hook Hoda hasn't said anything so far, but her and Louie were working out yesterday and they posted together and he called her his queen.

Speaker 2: Okay, all right, what is going on? These women who gotta you know what? Who gotta who? Rula come back and sponsor one of our shows. Please, somebody get the girls on the therapy's at the call today, please, especially if you got kids. Man, I've never known a reason to want to grow up more. That's a really good reason to grow up and get your shit together mentally, not like get your mental and not about followers.

Speaker 1: It's not about money, it's not about a home.

Speaker 2: Get your shit together mentally, because for the sake of your kid, they're watching you, they're seeing this.

Speaker 1: This stuff is gonna live forever.

Speaker 2: You don't think when those kids learn computer science in the sixth grade and they start going to typing class, they're not gonna google on the ten minutes of free time they get their parents' names. I'm telling you they do. They come to me in the third grade be like, I looked at my dad and I saw that he has no pictures of me on his Instagram. Wow, that's something perceptive, a nine year old said, and noticed think about this.

Speaker 1: I just like what happens when your daughter is like.

Speaker 2: Mom hood, Oh no in bahssing, embarrassing, let's not, let's not.

Speaker 1: Please don't embarrass your kids this way, y'all.

Speaker 3: Again, after you had already went on TV and embarrassed yourself than your kids.

Speaker 2: Boom yo, mommy, I don't know, are.

Speaker 1: You what a privilege it is? Are you?

Speaker 2: Because you're over here cutting up with somebody else's.

Speaker 3: Kids, with else's children because okay, you you do it. I will say, Taylor, keep that shit with her kids now, houda listen. Once you start fucking with other people's kids, that's where it gets to a point where you're gonna have to go do some time, lock her up, lock them all, because listen, you do what you want with your kids, but you don't go to other people's kids and start making threats on their life.

Speaker 2: Like that's crazy, that's crazy. That is that's crazy, breaking an entering, that's crazy. If you had your daughter at your house, if someone was doing this to you, how would you feel?

Speaker 3: Or do you not have your daughter at your house? And then you want to I know she's gonna cry, victim. I know she's gonna cry.

Speaker 1: Now are you a victim? If it's restraining order is granted.

Speaker 2: If it's granted, it means that the judge determined there was enough material evidence to ant and allow for a stay of like a distance to a person. If they don't do that, if it's just a couple of text messages or a yelling the burger king in and out parking lot, I kill you, bitch, not your first, but other than that, you know great. They don't just do like baby Mama problems and girlfriend v ex girlfriend like no to grant and restraint in order you put hand to door and jiggle the lock one too many times.

Speaker 1: Love, I'm sorry, and everybody.

Speaker 3: Yourself and touch people's kids like I'm sorry. Now that we have this on record, if Louis baby Mama does something to Hood, it too bad. So sad?

Speaker 1: Oh it was self defense, like have you lost we have a documentary.

Speaker 3: Don't do this when Beauty and Black is coming back. That's what I want to say. Don't thank you, That's all I want to say.

Speaker 2: It the hores shit that I like because it's written. You know, I know that it has a forty three minute limiting how much bullshit I was gonna put on my plate with the hood red stuff. Okay, I know I got forty three minutes. If that's it. I don't like this ongoing back into we don't know. Real kids in trouble.

Speaker 3: Will love to say I watched this for escapism, like her life, I'm supposed to be watching that for escapism. Meanwhile, Alandria is literally at Gloster's bandy Fair party because y'all hit it on her so hard she filled huh.

Speaker 2: She was there on the same red Carpet as Kim and Them as Gabrielle Union in them looking all gorgeous.

Speaker 1: Landria looks so.

Speaker 2: Good in that hotail, in that white dress. I was like, I imagine trying to hate her. I know, y'all do hard work to do that. Hard y'all worked so hard to hate her. It's so I look at her and be like, God, damn, that's a beautiful looking woman. It makes me happier to look at her, beautiful, choking beauty close.

Speaker 3: Like when you guys are writing you hate comments, I just slide down to see the picture that you're writing it on and I laugh because it's like, you can talk about this person like what do you.

Speaker 1: What do you look like?

Speaker 3: It's always so fait, you know what. That's the show. We had to get on here, this is the This is supposed to be an emergency episode. But you know how we get.

Speaker 1: But you know how they do. This is not this is their fault.

Speaker 2: This is Taylor and Dakota going around and round, going in circles.

Speaker 1: What did Jasmine Holman say? Why are you doing me? So? Just keep holding I feel.

Speaker 2: So stupid, foolish loving you all this way. I don't want to kind of have to pay for nothing. We don't got no money for that, but you know.

Speaker 3: I'm saying it, so, yeah, thank you for the interlude. And I think that that's uniquely like how I feel like we want to be signed out.

Speaker 1: Make sure.

Speaker 3: I'm gonna put it in the description, child if you don't already, fo us, make sure you download rate the five stars through the Patreon all the good things. We just had to come out here and talk about this with y'all. Some black women, white mess. I think that's what's the episode is going to we deserve.

Speaker 2: This is the reparations that I'm comfortable with. Yeah, absolutely, we can.

Speaker 1: Start right here.

Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, thank you for having me Aya, Thanks for doing this. Y'all listen, keep your ass peeled for the emergency white mess exactly.

Speaker 3: Thank you.

Speaker 1: Bye guys, Bye,

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