217. A Faithful Buffet: Traitors Talk w/ Morg

0:00 Speaker 1: Sound strugg.

0:08 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologists out there. It is your girl Moni, and you are in the mix with Moni again.

0:18 Speaker 1: I'm actually trying to contain my excitement. If that's why you're like, what the hell?

0:22 Speaker 2: Why is she so chill at the top of the show, It's because I don't just have like a parasocial friend here, y'all, Like, this is a person that I know in real life.

0:33 Speaker 1: She's my friend. I R help.

0:36 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say I'm putting nobody on blasts, but some people who have been following or been in the mix since like day one, when I got married and stuff, they know this friend. They contributed to this friend being part of me getting drunk for my bachelorette party and having the time of my damn life.

0:51 Speaker 1: And did and did and we did.

0:53 Speaker 2: I always am looking for an opportunity to give more and bring more of the people in my world into the mix, especially because that's my other world. It would be shocking to know that people love me and don't watch the things that I watch because I have great taste, they have great taste. Why don't we all watch.

1:09 Speaker 1: The same TV?

1:10 Speaker 2: That changed when Peacock launched a very specific show called The Traders, in which it allowed me to open the door back up to what originally I always wanted mixing with Monni back in the day in twenty nineteen to be, which is my friends talking to me about TV. And that is why I have brought one of my best friends here today. I have Morgan also known as Morgie to me, and her lovely girlfriend that she met at my wedding and just putting that out there, that's how entrenched we are, and who also watches great TV and she will be on here very soon though she does not know that she's finding out here first.

1:50 Speaker 2: Hey girl, I know you're listening. You're finding out here first. When them Secret Lives and the Mormons come on back, you're gonna get you on here too, because she watches that, but you watch Traders, and that is why I'm like, Morgan, Hi.

2:04 Speaker 1: Me friend, thanks for having me. How are you doing? Happy to be here? I'm good.

2:08 Speaker 3: You know it's snowing outside, but it is our lives.

2:14 Speaker 1: But we're good. Were you were just having yeah? We were just yeah.

2:21 Speaker 2: This the snow has taken out people's power everywhere. They've taken out hot water. They've taken out hot life, like.

2:29 Speaker 1: Just like warm temps.

2:31 Speaker 2: If your home is warm, they're well because my apartment buildings straight up told us don't open your door.

2:39 Speaker 1: I said, what it said, girl, You'll let all the air out and that hot air and it.

2:43 Speaker 2: Will never come back the way these buildings are not insulated. Don't open that door, and that's cold. I was like, bitch, Now I can't open.

2:54 Speaker 1: My own door.

2:55 Speaker 2: So I'm like really hard pressed. I have like doctor Maya here, don't open the door. Don't by Yeah, you know, she has to go through a lot when it's when it's cold, because we're all we're stuck in the house. We have more than one TV. But she is a velcrow lesbian and she doesn't like being away from me. It's so she doesn't want me to be by myself, but doesn't track. Okay, so she's not gonna listen to this. This is the only separation she gets from me. She lets it play though, because she real she real that's the ads play at work.

3:29 Speaker 2: Love her, but she doesn't like me to be separate from her. Over both home together, which we are during the snow days, Snowmageddon right now. She's like, I want to watch this, or I want to play the games, or let's watch something we both can watch. And I'm like, baby, girl, one.

3:48 Speaker 4: Watch you both watched Rival tonight. You have two games coming Rival.

3:52 Speaker 2: Okay, let me say this for my girlies sports. I love Unrivaled.

3:55 Speaker 1: Let me tell you why.

3:56 Speaker 2: When they off camera or like off court interview these girlies, it is not only about the sports. They ask them about their fashion choices. Who they're like loving in style and trends right now around the internet that I too watch. I love that. You better ask me about my outfit choice. First of all fit chat, She's like, what is your inspiration? What did you pull from today when you walk.

4:18 Speaker 1: Down the road? I said, girl, this is what I want to know. Yes, I know. They play a great game of basketball.

4:24 Speaker 4: Very well rounded, and they're up with the times.

4:27 Speaker 3: Brandon Stewart, one of the co founders of un rival stood up. I think over the weekend with the you know, a little ice sign, you know, forget ice.

4:35 Speaker 1: Whatever she said, I forgot what it is she did.

4:37 Speaker 4: She did, she did, you know, make a statements and that's why they love to.

4:41 Speaker 2: Make that statement. No, we do love the girlies. I'm having a nice time watching Unrivaled. So for like, at least for the lesbian couples out there, porsicha Porscha girl, it's okay when they want to watch basketball.

4:53 Speaker 1: Now there's something for all of us. Yes, yes, she is very much so.

4:58 Speaker 2: In fact, this is one of the reasons why I've always wanted to have friends on my show, because this is the entire the end of the show in like my life is that all these worlds kind of combined. Because why did Porscha give her little cute, little stud girlfriend a blow up doll of her?

5:15 Speaker 3: But I haven't seen any food. I have seen videos, pictures of them.

5:19 Speaker 1: Nothing. Really, you haven't because you're not following the right people.

5:24 Speaker 2: You need to follow the mix with Mani because they have a nice time together, those two gays, they do show well. She is currently filming Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip with Giselle and uh huh there together they out there, just gave her girlfriend a blow up all of her petre such an Atlanta lesbian name. That is peak Atlanta lesbian.

5:52 Speaker 1: And what she is.

5:53 Speaker 2: But she also she's a twin, so I'm breaking my rule, you know, Okay, it's real questionable. It's real hard for me to understan and accept twins is too much true crime for twins to be an acceptable.

6:08 Speaker 1: Upon was miss Patreesa's only twenty eight years old?

6:11 Speaker 2: Uh huh?

6:12 Speaker 1: How old is Porsche?

6:13 Speaker 2: Okay, that's not the point many dms for me have been.

6:20 Speaker 1: So you mean to tell me this whole tame m that's all.

6:24 Speaker 2: I heard, not excluding from my wife as well, that same exact sentiment.

6:29 Speaker 1: You mean to tell me at what point we've been together over ten years?

6:34 Speaker 2: You better stop? But anyways, love Porsche, So I'm loving this for her. I just think it's funny that she would give her girlfriend a giant blow up size doll or blow up size like pillow of her while she's off filming Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip right now, while she's working.

6:51 Speaker 4: Well, my girlfriend has asked for the same thing, so I should probably make that a reality.

6:55 Speaker 1: Then maybe you should ask when we find out where Porsche got it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

7:01 Speaker 2: We see that requests find out. It's a market. A market has been under soul. Like listen, if you or a girly you know, wants your significant other be a clinger enough that they are requesting or need a giant pillow version of you life size, Like it's so you want one to have a Morgan sized one.

7:24 Speaker 3: A Morgan sized height, and I really need this by Valentine's Day.

7:28 Speaker 1: If we can move.

7:29 Speaker 2: Custom orders for ten weeks, better get on in there. Yeah, Aget, you better make some money. Let's put things together. But if I can get we gotta do that. Find out from Portia where we got where we got this specific little uh then Portia size? Yeah, pillow right, that's what we'll do.

7:56 Speaker 1: Okay.

7:56 Speaker 2: So aside from that reason I love and why we can't even talk about Porsche. She started this year this journey of Traders with us from before, which was a pull for a lot of people.

8:10 Speaker 1: I want to know from you.

8:10 Speaker 2: What was your Traders experience? How do you watch Traders and why? Like, do you watch it as an observer game show?

8:19 Speaker 1: This is fun?

8:19 Speaker 2: Do you watch it because you know people on there? Do you watch it in spite of not knowing people on there? What's your vibe? How do you Traders?

8:26 Speaker 1: Yeah?

8:27 Speaker 3: I mean to back up a little bit. Only got into the show because of my girlfriend, Like she was watching it and she said, you know, I think she's really probably one of the smartest woman I know.

8:35 Speaker 2: Honestly, Yeah, I agree, and I am one of the smartest women I know, and I agree that she is.

8:42 Speaker 1: She with problems.

8:45 Speaker 3: She's watching it, and at first I'm like, I'm not buying, so does all like what is this? Why would I watch this? And I turned on one episode. I think I started with season two or then watch season one. I turned on one.

8:54 Speaker 1: Episode and was hooked.

8:56 Speaker 3: I am somebody who's competitive, have a sports background, so I love gaming, and I do think I was more invested because I knew some of the people on the show.

9:04 Speaker 1: I didn't know.

9:05 Speaker 3: It was a whole bunch of people from different reality backgrounds, whether it's like gaming shows or reality TV housewives, whatever.

9:11 Speaker 1: But when I could connect with the people and it.

9:13 Speaker 3: Was competitive, I was like, oh cool, I have somebody root for and I'm learning a new games. I forgot who was in season two because I think I just steambrolled through that that was Phagre or she was three, and then she was she was three, because I think you had to catch up. When I was like, because I remember you watching while season three was airing, like you were starting it, and I was like, Morgan, oh, my god, pa on there, you don't understand.

9:41 Speaker 2: Yes, I was really yeah, this is good for us, and boy was it. It's still such a bad man. That was a good season.

9:52 Speaker 1: I love that lady, who is also Fadri is also currently filming Housewivest Ultimate Girls Trip, so I'm going to watch that. I think, yeah, well, well you know, it's the return of Nini to Bravo.

10:01 Speaker 2: No, they could not give her a full contract because they still like to humble you even when you're in the right. But she does appear on the Atlanta stop, and the Atlanta Stop is apparently like one of the longest or biggest stops because we care the most about watching Nini.

10:18 Speaker 1: So Portia and Phaedra bringing.

10:21 Speaker 2: Nini or bringing us to Nini and bringing Nini back on the show on Bravo. Hats off to you, racause Bravo Bravo because and also this is you know, Portia and Fedra are forever, so Traders has kind of been. It's been interesting how they decided to cast Traders the first season. I do tell people, unless you really care about the show in the gaming, you don't need to watch season one because it's half people from reality backgrounds, half regular people, and that's kind of where I think the first season fell flat, and that people who are like you and me are not prepared to be in a room with a bunch of housewives and survivors, game players, people who are willingly for the opportunity to maybe have money, like starved themselves for twenty five days so that they could like and play game.

11:08 Speaker 2: Though those people are here to play. I'm just a woman, like I'm just the girl from around the way. I'm not trying to do all that. So then second season and beyond they decided to switch that up and do only people who are of the pop culture relevance, and then we might know that's super cool. Now I'm interested on like a House of Villains or like a real world.

11:30 Speaker 4: Way Yeah, yeah, because I love New York.

11:33 Speaker 1: So I was obsessed with growing up, love New York. Down.

11:37 Speaker 2: I watch anything she on at least one Yeah right, okay, it's her inflat for me. They keep me ackoling if I'm.

11:44 Speaker 1: A little fresh New York too.

11:47 Speaker 2: It sounds you that tracks did you or did you? Were you just having fun being I'm pretty sure I was obsessed with anything she was on. I mean honestly, Yeah, maybe that's what it was New York is. But she's amazing. She's very enchanting. So she'll be on Traders soon enough. You know her signing by chance, her sign that would determine peak. It's gotta be a leo.

12:14 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, Tiffany poelars. That's what we need to find out.

12:19 Speaker 2: While Morgan is looking at Tiffany's son, God bless her her memes kid me through the day, caricorn.

12:27 Speaker 1: Moving right on, Okay, moving on right a long.

12:33 Speaker 2: Yes, there was once a time where if you didn't know the people on the show, you wanted to get to know them because of that.

12:40 Speaker 1: Now I'm like, good, I don't need to know.

12:43 Speaker 2: This is definitely the season I've known the most people across the board, maybe save like four or five. Because Big Brother is just such a commitment. I can never I can't do it. I'm already all of them.

12:56 Speaker 1: Yeah.

12:56 Speaker 2: Also, y'all got a lot of content I can't. I don't do well with being overwhelmed. Don't purpose, Please don't force me to be overwhelmed for entertainment. But I love the way they play. They know how to gag these Big Brother people. Whoo they be gaming. Okay, these Survivor and Big Brother people on this particular season, I mean, they're the ones who are they play. They all have the worst meters of human beings, but they play the smartest and they have the coolest alliances. They do big on the alliances.

13:27 Speaker 2: The problem with alliances, I don't know if you've noticed this when you're watching. They keep making these alliances. They want to get these big groups of faithfuls and whatnot, and they all include at least one, if not two, traders because they decided that if they're my good judies, they're not a trader, they must be a faithful because I know I'm a faithful and that's my good girl.

13:49 Speaker 1: Yeah.

13:50 Speaker 4: I think I really noticed that when I think John was the ring leader for trying to get Colton out, and he was like, Okay, we're at the point of the game where we have at least eight faithfuls, we can way the table.

14:00 Speaker 1: Anyway.

14:01 Speaker 4: The problem with that was in his group people at Rob and Candice.

14:06 Speaker 2: He said, I said, well, that's not good for them, but great, bless their hearts.

14:11 Speaker 1: Okay, they'll bless their hearts.

14:12 Speaker 2: Indeed, they've been swinging it faithfuls left, right and hidden, every faithful, not a single trader.

14:19 Speaker 3: They're doing awful, sweetie. Besides, Donna Kelsey, can we talk about that.

14:24 Speaker 1: For ascond Absolutely, Donna. So you know, I thought I didn't know.

14:28 Speaker 3: I didn't know, and some was trying to talk to as my girlfriend. Some were trying to talk to me and say, well, you know, the trader is somebody who's like really tall, and I was like, you said, what.

14:38 Speaker 2: Said if we didn't say, if I didn't say, I'm sorry, it's okay.

14:47 Speaker 4: She was trying to convince me that the trader was somebody.

14:49 Speaker 1: Like insanely tall.

14:50 Speaker 3: I had a bill because of the promos, and I was like, no, it's Donna Kelsey.

14:54 Speaker 1: It's so odd.

14:55 Speaker 2: Well she's one out so wildly, and they were she's star struck around the housewives and stuff, and I said no. But then she also just said Paul McCartney had a conversation with me at the blah blah blah football game.

15:13 Speaker 1: She raised two Kelsey's. I think she's okay. Yeah, and Taylor.

15:18 Speaker 2: Swift, now I agree. I don't think that means anything like y'all know, if you're on the internet. We just saw Charlie XCX this week and like this week, and we know plenty of other big names, Rihanna, all these girls. They love housewives down They're like, if I saw Heather Gay or Giselle Brant or somebody in Wild, I would not know what to do. And we watched these celebrities not know what the hell to do when they're around them that and Donna was acting hello, weir bro like from day one she was like jump just.

15:47 Speaker 3: Like not being natural, yeah, and then not defending herself. But I don't know if you've read the article or saw the TikTok, but apparently the producers came out and said, well, yeah, we chose Donna from the start, and we had high expectations for her and there were gonna be some other twists and turns to her character. We really thought she could, you know, make it far as a secret trader.

16:07 Speaker 1: She just did it. So that's why it was unsuccessful.

16:10 Speaker 3: So I don't know if they're just saying that to backtrack and what they did, but they should not have chosen her as.

16:17 Speaker 2: I don't know who would have who would you have made the secret trader hands. I think Cannice is doing great, so far. I would have made her secret fantastic. I think this is fantastic. Her biggest problem is always and has been, like it is on Housewives, that she has too big of a heart. Yeah, she talked too much. She got too big of a heart and too big of a mouth. They don't do mouth together. Her mouth is as big as her heart. Okay, So like when she feels yeah, you think, yeah, you will hear about it.

16:47 Speaker 2: It will come out, It will come out in projected big ways. However, I actually think she's doing quite well on this this season, on this show. I am like kind of shocked at how much I'm enjoying her, because I'm not usually a candy goal. I did think that she should have taken the time away. I don't think she should come back to Housewives, but I do think she's doing well in this space. And I know that normally Traders is a technically it's a place for housewives to also find re employment on Bravo when they are no longer because something and I think I mentioned this on Bravo Bravo blah.

17:31 Speaker 1: Black shout out to Kaya.

17:32 Speaker 2: I think I mentioned this over there that nobody saw that when Caroline Stansberry, who is currently a housewife of Dubai and that's recent. Her show was canceled her Ladies of London years ago. It's been brought back, so she's going to be on that again. But she was in house Hoves of Dubai that just got canceled and now she's re employed. So when she got murdered and Lisa Rena looked at her, and she looked at her, she said, I'm sure I'll see you again. Bravo con right and said, no, I don't think you will.

18:02 Speaker 2: Hey really wanted to point and draw attention to that fact because Lisa Renna is fired from Bravo.

18:08 Speaker 1: She is not currently on Bravo. I just read that she was. She left in twenty twenty three. That's yeah, she's fired.

18:15 Speaker 2: Employed by Bravo for years and left left is what they like to say they did when Bravo says, we're not renewing your contract, but we will not miss she do some first yes, essentially, but she's the reason why there's a lot of clauses allegedly, she's the reason why there's so many clauses now that like she was leaking too much shit from the season basically like way too much shit, especially from her season of Beverly Hills. That was really putting the show at a disservice because a lot of the show in the season of house As of Beverly Hills would be amazing if a lot of the stuff didn't get leaked already and we were then bored in the first five minutes.

18:51 Speaker 2: They have the money, they have the drama, they have all the stuff, they just were it was all coming out so early, and Lisa it was no secret.

19:00 Speaker 1: And when she's.

19:01 Speaker 2: Danna left the show, ratings people on her side, reunion coverage. I mean, the thing is, it's interesting when I'm watching Traders because so much of this world of even the Traders. If you don't understand or see how Housewives work or understand their world or how they move through the world, like the Housewives Gang, why it is a cult, why it is so big, why there's a conference for it, then you don't really understand how they're playing the game, which is also why so many people have been able to clock Renna originally immediately in that why are you acting so subdued and normally and the chill, because if you do watch Housewives, one of my favorite moments in Housewives pop culture lexicon is Andy Cohen's baby shower, where all the houses from every single city ever they're then and gone, past and present and now future.

19:54 Speaker 2: We're all there like one hundred wives or whatever. And Lisa Renna, in her orange freaking seventies jumpsuit, flipped hair and big ass popcorn lips, stance on the table, which is why she said this in the round table to Colton. She stood on the table and said, he pays for your lives. Get on your asses and dance, motherfucker, dance on that table. She got a room full of grown ass fifty plus year old women to get drunk and dance on tables. And you need to tell me this entire time. Girls giving trader.

20:26 Speaker 2: If you don't say anything, it will give trader because.

20:29 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, lest she is one.

20:31 Speaker 2: But the goal of being a Trader is that you also have to act like yourself so much that they assume that you as a faithful you being yourself, that's who you are. And Rob and Kandis are doing a good job of this, but it does seem like Renna is having a harder time, kind of like blending in with them, you would say, so is Ron.

20:52 Speaker 3: But I think Lisa had a good clap back at Colton though after the round table.

20:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, well this is my note.

21:00 Speaker 2: This is all why Lisa Ena isn't doing a good job pretending to be a faithful We're gonna get the culting in a minute, but thank you for bringing that up.

21:07 Speaker 3: You will because I don't like that man and I didn't even know much about him. But she definitely had a great clad back up. I mean, to his credit, guest, she is acting not herself. But also I think saying, you know, I'm not going to act like a housewife all the time, like, don't put me in that box. So you found a lot of people on her side who are faithful. I think that comes with protection moving forward.

21:30 Speaker 2: So yeah, because you're also basically saying that they're the only ones, just the housewives are the only ones who are not allowed to be real people, right, Like you're not assigning this personality. Also, I had a real big issue and this is gonna pick some people off. This might be a hot take. If Coulton wasn't gay, he'd be homophobic. Let me explain absolutely him. Okay, thanks, but see, but we're too.

21:54 Speaker 1: Gays.

21:54 Speaker 2: Okay, we're tools who experience the world differently. We know, we understand we're small. Also that people who don't know that are probably like, WHOA, how can he be homophobic if he is gay? Because where you want to put your dick doesn't really determine if you are a dick or not, Like that doesn't really make a difference in which case this man Colton.

22:15 Speaker 1: Him.

22:16 Speaker 2: He gave Lisa Renna the biggest alue I've ever seen in my life by calling her out at the round table, saying, you're not acting.

22:22 Speaker 1: Like a housewife.

22:23 Speaker 2: Let that lady be proven to be more of a faithful no matter what. Because saying that, every woman in the place was like, I know, he didn't just say you need to smile for me. I know he didn't just say you need to dance. And she said, I don't just dance on the table. He paid for it, Like that was an obvious reference to her literally dancing on tables. And she's like, I don't do that all the time. I'm not doing that right Now'm not getting.

22:45 Speaker 1: Paid chirst Well. She also was a soap opera actress. Her entire life of.

22:52 Speaker 2: My Nana used to only watch the Housewives of Beverly Hills with me because so many former soap opera accesses become housewives of Beverly.

23:02 Speaker 4: Her and Harry Hamlin I think is his name?

23:07 Speaker 3: Yo?

23:08 Speaker 1: She don't you know looking her crazy because she don't.

23:11 Speaker 3: Yes, they do, they do.

23:16 Speaker 2: It's funny because that has always been a part of her. Shatic on house side of Beverly Hills is not seeing enough of her life. She's crazy about her daughters. She wants her daughters to be the next gig and Bella Hadid like Yolanda, who also used to be a housewife of Beverly Hills at the same time as Lisa Renna, where Lisa Renna famously accused her of having Munchausens having what now, Munchausen is the thing where you are dizzy. It's like disease, factitious disorder. It's like the thing that you basically fake symptoms to gain sympathy.

23:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, Lisa Rena is diabolical, which is also a reason why a little blonde gay boy like Colton is like, you're not acting. You're not giving me house life, You're not giving me drag queen. It's like when they tell that to like Bob drag queen. I hated that. Do not tell them that because just because they are like that and that's how you know them, does that mean that it's who they are? And it means that then the housewives are the only ones that are not that have to be on all the time. You're saying that because she's not dancing on the table and taking shots and yelling in people's faces and saying I made it nice like Derinda, that she's not she must be a trader.

24:22 Speaker 2: I mean she is, but that logic that walk a line of thinking that because this woman who I deem entertaining is not entertaining me, I think she's gotta be up to something, because what else is her purpose if not to be like that? Because when she started being like I guess I'll turn it on for you, he was a good do that. I said, Oh no, baby, you're more hateable than you were before. Crazy talk about some of the bad things. I'm sorry, y'all. We gotta get into Culton a little bit. I waste I took our time, but I do.

24:58 Speaker 2: Before we get there, I want to ask you, how do you feel in to post Michael Rappaport World, I think that was a good move for the faithfuls. Whether he was a faithful or traitor, he was just talking too much. He was disruptive. No one could really get a thought or or a talking point in with him. And I told you this through text. I don't like Colton so much that when Michael Rappaport was even slightly homophobic towards him, my brain was all like started clapping. But I didn't clock his homophobia at first.

25:27 Speaker 1: When he made that comment.

25:28 Speaker 3: About oh, you've been keeping a secret for twenty nine years, I was like, yeah, get his ass.

25:33 Speaker 1: But then I was like, oh, no.

25:35 Speaker 2: That was a terrible I think to say this is why people hate you, myself included, because I'm like, we have room.

25:42 Speaker 1: For both of y'all to not have been here. Yeah.

25:45 Speaker 2: I actually would have preferred neither of them been there. Because you are a housewives watcher.

25:50 Speaker 1: You know that one.

25:51 Speaker 2: Michael Rappaport his entire bookable career right now. His billable hours is his aggressive attitude talking and critiquing housewives. Those are all women, So that man talking about women also like commodities, like drama pieces, like people on a chessboard, like characters. When he told King of Moore to her face, that she was casted as the villain as if she's not a person like years ago. Yeah, watching What Happens Live, it's what he told her, And he told her her feet were ashy. You don't get to talk to me like that.

26:22 Speaker 2: You don't get to talk to me Kenya like that. Portia can talk to Keingya like that. You cannot. So why you're here off the strength of women's television in a room with other characters, other players and women and in a women's space or in a space for people to watch, But that he never should have had this platform if his former platform is built on him tearing down women and minority communities, that feels like really stupid. And then now him being here, and then we also, I think that we just didn't know why they chose him or Colton, so we've been trying to juggle as viewers, like damn, what the hell, I'm trying to have fun.

27:01 Speaker 1: But then.

27:03 Speaker 3: They're both awful, and I think they contribute to a lot of Yeah, I think they contribute, both of them. Colton and Michael will contribute to a lot of the discourse I've been seeing about this season and some people are talking about not watching anymore because of the microag Russians.

27:17 Speaker 4: How all the black people lut it out. It's very it's a little more sinister feeling than I felt season two and season three, where I'm like, Okay, I have to kind of clock who you are as people, not just playing the game, but like your your nature because a lot of.

27:31 Speaker 1: People aren't kind.

27:32 Speaker 3: And then all this all this information coming out about Ron being autistic and how they were treating him on set.

27:37 Speaker 1: I'm not like, so I didn't know that.

27:39 Speaker 2: They didn't know that, but I knew that because I, first of all, I'm a fan of Ron functions.

27:43 Speaker 1: I watched, I watches.

27:46 Speaker 2: I'm I'm a recent fan the last couple of years, mainly because I've talked about on my show.

27:50 Speaker 1: I have autism in ADHD. I was diagnosed later in life. Knew my whole life. And please get your kids checked.

27:56 Speaker 2: If they think if you think that they don't know their different, bitch, they oh, they know, we know what were me and made fun of I'll tell you that. So Ron, I was always very clear about that. I would leave so many experiences in the third grade, like I did not enjoy that interaction, and I wrote that down a couple of times. But Ron has a child who is autistic, and he works it into his stand up a lot. So I've watched a lot of stand up for neurodivergent parents, parents of neurodivergent people, and people who are neurodivergent have great stand ups.

28:25 Speaker 2: We're funny as hell, first of all. Top three funniest people.

28:29 Speaker 1: You know.

28:29 Speaker 2: I know, I'm in it exactly working laugh if she agrees, But truly, I feel like Ron was of that nature. People did not understand him, and he also did not understand the people there. My two things that I would have thought that would have made Ron had a better experience on the show is not that if he had engaged more with other people, because that also would have been very hard for him. I understand, like I would have been like Rob, like no, this is probably a nightmare for him. But honestly, what would have made it better also is if he had done any homework, watched any of the people on the cast, you would not have thought weirdly or voted the way you did about the people that you did.

29:15 Speaker 2: Ron, he did watch some of them, yet he did say he didn't he had never For instance, he had never heard of Derinda like or watched the House I was of New York. You would not have thought she was weird or had anything weird or abrasive against you if you had seen just an episode. That's just who she is. She was acting one hundred percent herself. In fact, she was more subdued too. That's just who she is. She wasn't clocking you, she wasn't attacking you. But I can see how it would feel that way because Derinda attacked people.

29:40 Speaker 2: I don't watch her attack a whole bunch of women that she's friends with for years on New York for ten years. So that's who she is. But I think that's what the point is for people like who are neurodiverged, and sometimes knowing more helps. I think he maybe thought that if he did it too much research, who would not have wanted to go on, which I also think might have been fair. Maybe not every opportunity is the best one for us, because I also know he held a lot of weight in space for people to be human and have human experiences around him, and that it's a game, yes, but it's a game of duplicity.

30:11 Speaker 2: It is a game of deceit. And when you are someone who both doesn't enjoy being perceived and it's hyper aware of being perceived and have to do a lot of perceiving, that could be a lot and.

30:23 Speaker 1: A lot of times.

30:24 Speaker 2: We saw Ron talking at roundtable and my man's felt overwhelmed. He seemed not having a good time.

30:30 Speaker 3: To the point where he was like, Okay, I'm going home. Let's all let's just give hugs now.

30:33 Speaker 4: Let's talk about it.

30:36 Speaker 2: I wrote that down. He said, it's okay, I'm gonna go ahead and count it. We can call it.

30:41 Speaker 1: Y'all want to call on me. I want to go home. We agree, so go ahead.

30:46 Speaker 3: And it's so funny because you've definite had muments where you're like, yeah, I'm actually ready to go.

30:51 Speaker 2: Later, Morgan, I don't even know in my real life, y'all, I'm not social at all. Be out the door sometimes I have to find. If I don't find you to say goodbye, you'll just have it. You'll just get you have a text, you'll text later. I love you so much, friend, thanks so much for infighting me. I had the best time here. The pictures I took, got.

31:16 Speaker 1: Some aluminum foil. I love you. I'll text you when I get home safely. Have a blessed one. Yep, sounds about right. Bye.

31:23 Speaker 2: Like I have had parents, I've been invited to kids birthday parties, and I've had parents text me or email me the next day be like, where did you go? I wish goodbye the hell out of that kid's birthday party?

31:34 Speaker 1: But I came. What was I supposed to do?

31:39 Speaker 4: And you know, yeah, children kids party?

31:43 Speaker 3: When like the kids are like doing their thing, the adults are all sitting around him somewhere.

31:46 Speaker 4: I have some drinks just talking. You were supposed to stay for that.

31:49 Speaker 2: I've never wanted to do anything less than what you just described for He would be like in that, like if you were of that realm, of like that stage in life at the kids party, you'd go to be the Okay, now we're at the best part.

32:01 Speaker 1: Let's make out those coolers. Oh oh what's that what you said? Tequila? Oh yeah, okay, yeah me, I'm like, oh no, they're winding down.

32:10 Speaker 2: I put up, I put it in order your time and respect my time, and I'm going to get in my car. Yeah okay, how did you know? But the J is in the car. The Jay that I smoked on the way here has worn off. So the social has worn off, and the food that I ordered for pick up because this food won't cut it.

32:31 Speaker 1: The food that I ordered is really the hell. Yeah, first of all, actually I did that the other day, so let me not before someone might be listening, let me not speak.

32:41 Speaker 2: Too much on that because they're like, you know, she did leave my party mad early, and I did see her put bar taco on there.

32:48 Speaker 1: Yeah. First of all, their Cevich slaps dub tacos slap the duck. Butria tacos baby be dip it delicious. Yep.

32:59 Speaker 2: The since what I'm talking about, I'd rather go home and have a snack and watch my shows literally like Traders.

33:04 Speaker 1: This is that's what I like to do.

33:06 Speaker 2: Like I come home and say, oh, I gotta work, and I love using that excuse when I got to come home and watch my girls showing Traders.

33:13 Speaker 1: Okay, speaking of my.

33:15 Speaker 2: Man's wrong when they had and said he had a goodbye prepared for every person except for the people he just said their first.

33:21 Speaker 1: Name and moved on. I wrote it down.

33:26 Speaker 2: You know I'm gonna start doing that, right, Please know the next part, the next social function I attend if you are with Bare Witness, I'm like, all right, well that's my time, guys. Let me say bye to everybody on my way out. I've prepared a goodbye for you more than be you know, you're so tall, be real, stay true to yourself. You thanks for pointing up obvious exactly. But that's what he Ron said, you know what, it's okay. And then all the white people said, and look at you said, Wait a minute, this thing a little too eager to walk.

33:55 Speaker 1: Out of here.

33:56 Speaker 4: No wait, wait it was somebody who broke the ice.

33:58 Speaker 1: What was her name? The figure skater? Oh yes, oh god, I can say something. It's not him.

34:07 Speaker 2: Why wouldn't he be here prepared goodbyes if he knew he was up there and it's me. He was like listen because but also because Ron, I love him. And this is what I'm saying. I think that what I recognize in this experience that I would not.

34:23 Speaker 1: Be good on this show.

34:25 Speaker 2: I'm saying all of this knowing that he did something way braver, stronger, cooler than I ever would have done, because I would be emotionally to distraught. I mean, there was the first autistic person on survivor a couple a season or so ago, and she did amazing, she challenged herself.

34:40 Speaker 1: Because it is a social game.

34:42 Speaker 2: Social things really stress us out and cause a big emotional response, almost specifically with old Girley, like or Ron being like, hey, like, I'm y'all just don't get me. You don't get me, and you don't trust me. And because you don't get me and you don't trust me, you're gonna send me home. Been on this side before, I might as well just go out with my dignity and all of that. And it is sad, but because like he's taking it that seriously, it's not. But it is hard not to separate them things. This is also an emotional game.

35:12 Speaker 2: Somebody is lying on their personality and it's gonna be Ron. And so Culton decides that if it's if he knows, he's so stupid if he knows, everybody's going for Ron. But he still thinks that though he swung and missed all four times himself, he should just go ahead and try one more because they'll listen to him. And it sucks.

35:38 Speaker 1: The wall.

35:39 Speaker 4: But also, are we transferred? Are we going to Colton?

35:43 Speaker 1: Or we finished up?

35:44 Speaker 2: We were going to Colton. We're going to Culton because Ron I want to say that. Ron said to everybody, it's just interesting because y'all are holding Porscha over my head for being right, because y'all loved Porsche, but because Michael was also a faithful, but because y'all didn't like him, you're letting Colton or whomever go off scott free and no one's holding it over his head. Ye, And I'm like, but he's right, Colton has gotten it more wrong than run.

36:10 Speaker 3: But also it's not just colding. These faithfuls are not great, because why are you ab who is colding to you? To be like, oh well, hey, guys, don't tell nobody else after he told everybody else we're gonna vote for this person to night like, but how does he have so much sway and influence over you?

36:26 Speaker 1: I don't like.

36:27 Speaker 2: Why are y'all listening? And in fact why is your only response? We have to get him out in order for him to stop trying to control everything. Right, Also, just stop listening to him. Y'all didn't watch last season. I'll watch people be real good and not listening to Tom Sandoval. If you have a mediocre white man in your mix. Just don't listen to him. Please know they are there as a production.

36:50 Speaker 1: We did not listen to Tom. Thank you. That's what I'm saying. Where is the person to be like, No, honey, he's here for decoration. Everybody and every.

36:58 Speaker 4: Brun you think, let's we're all thinking the same.

37:01 Speaker 1: Thank you. So we're on. We're over here with Culton.

37:04 Speaker 2: Culton, he doesn't just take a big swing. He takes a big risk. And I've never seen this before. I thought it was a really bad decision because you really, you really he did a man thing and Rob did another man thing that I think is gonna bite him in the bathroom, and yeah, we'll talk about that. I think it's gonna be a problem because men aren't as bright as they want to be sometimes when they think they're being noble or doing something real smart. Culton decides he's gonna sit rented down and he This is when they lost me because I had to pause for a few a few things happen.

37:34 Speaker 2: I was like, oh god, now I understand what people say that they may not be watching anymore because he sat rented down and decided he was gonna say to her, I will protect you at the round table if you protect me in the turret implying I know you're a trader, I want you to I don't know if you're gonna confirm her to not, but I'm going to confront you with it so that I can say I won't let your name be brought up by me at the red table, though, I'm going to do that anyway, right, Or you can make sure I don't get killed.

38:06 Speaker 1: When y'all go killing someone.

38:08 Speaker 2: Let me also put myself on a hook if you are a trader and I do make it through this roundtable tonight, let me put myself on a hook because I'm gonna call you out on it right then and now. Because he's already told one person he believes it is he right. Yes, the problem is we will never be able. He'll never get this win because of how he's going about it. Biggest red flag he decides to use the words. If I can't catch a trader, I decide I'm gonna hold one hostage. Yes, Morgan, are you aware of why people are having a problem with Colton Underwood being on.

38:40 Speaker 3: The show outside of him being an asshole, outside of him being misogynistic?

38:45 Speaker 1: You know what show he's from Yeah, I'm so, I think I know the lord.

38:49 Speaker 3: He's from the Bachelor, but he's gay now and apparently he was stalking the woman he left The Bachelor with.

38:55 Speaker 1: Yes, so I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad. And then my work, and it is.

39:00 Speaker 3: Such a job I really have to dig into, like, Okay, what is it about you?

39:05 Speaker 1: What is this?

39:07 Speaker 2: You can't be the sign? I know too many people can't be that. It can't just be a white man, I know others and.

39:16 Speaker 3: Reaction why and what really took me off to him is the way he went after Tiffany.

39:21 Speaker 4: Tiffany I think was a better leader than Colton. She should have been the mouthpiece of the faith.

39:25 Speaker 1: He can all. He can definitely be a racist. I'll tell you that right now.

39:30 Speaker 2: You know, well I didn't know that, Okay, See, so you know I also watched The Bachelor as a gay, a black lesbian.

39:37 Speaker 1: Who cares? You know, I'm having them all. It's entertainment, you know.

39:41 Speaker 2: I love watching white people fall poorly in love for six weeks and then out of it in two weeks.

39:45 Speaker 1: It's great.

39:46 Speaker 2: It's a great, it's a great it's a great structure Colton was during the time where they had really exhausted all the best middle American, farmer, wholesome, good guys. There were no or left. They would have seem for rich people. They don't find like rich bachelor's. That's not what us is about, No, baby, it's just an average American. Yes, the flyover Statesman. Listen, straight women really like watching other straight women possibly fall in love in the wildest ways because they mean, maybe it could be fit into and I do want that for them.

40:22 Speaker 2: Y'all go get that left field app. That's all I got to tell you all. I know, if you're a single person.

40:27 Speaker 3: I was really about to say, this could be an app, like why why do we have a whole show about this?

40:31 Speaker 2: Okay, the Bachelor, so he they were trying to get people. They had had a swing and a miss with Nick Viele, the one who hosts the reunions and everything. Now, yes, he too was once a bachelor because he was a bachelorette and nobody wanted he was on the Bachelorette.

40:45 Speaker 1: Nobody wanted him.

40:47 Speaker 2: He's not very fun or attracted to look at, so he was a big miss. We got Rachel Lindsay out of it, but it was like, damn, that was a terrible season.

40:55 Speaker 1: What do we do? We need a big wild factor. I don't know.

40:59 Speaker 2: Let's get a blonde, thirty year old football playing virgin, virgin virgin and so they cast the first bachelor who was a virgin that should have been a His name is Polton.

41:10 Speaker 1: I was about to say, that's that was freaging.

41:15 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm gonna be You're not wrong.

41:18 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not asking you to I'm just asking you to help me not stop there for going. When I saw it in college, I too said, now what thirty two blonde and a football.

41:30 Speaker 1: Player with blue woo girl?

41:31 Speaker 2: They were handing it to you. I know they were because I know the girls they were. I know they were good waiting that pro football contract. They had to be.

41:39 Speaker 1: Girl. Okay, let me tell you.

41:40 Speaker 2: I just watched two people that I went to high school with and had actual classes with play each other for a possibility in the super Bowl. This fond just yesterday. Yeah, he's the one that took it. I wasn't rooting for him. Psychology class with him was not fun, but AP and English late and environmental science with Sam Mustafer on the Bears Bears, Denver. No, that's wrong, Denver is thet don't help me. I'm gonna get there.

42:09 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Broncos. There you go, There you go, the Broncos. Yeah, doctor sportsperson.

42:19 Speaker 2: Wife that I'm married to, has her headphones on and is playing that basketball gang whatever.

42:25 Speaker 1: She was of no help for me so in that moment. But I was rooting for them.

42:29 Speaker 2: Sorry, Denver, I really wanted you all to make it because I liked that classmate a lot.

42:33 Speaker 1: But I was for Denver. Yeah, me too, But here we are.

42:37 Speaker 2: But anyway, needless to say, I knew the girls who was passing it out to those boys.

42:41 Speaker 1: You know, so what you mean?

42:42 Speaker 2: You are a virgin by choice waiting for marriage, but not religious. He wasn't super Christian, that wasn't the reason. So we were all really confused. He finds this woman, her name is Cassie. They go off. She makes it all the way to the end, hometown's normal season. Up until then, normal season. Cassie is definitely my choice. He's his choice, she's his choice. They go to hometowns. This is all so important for why he used this word. That's why I'm going over the story for the fifteenth time he asked the dad's on hometowns.

43:10 Speaker 2: The bachelor asked each of the parents of the final three girls for their blessing. If it were to be that girl, would you be cool with me maybe choosing your daughter? Any good parents says no, Most parents have said yes up until now. In fact, it was Cassidy's parents. This young lady. It was her dad that really broke the internet, being like, fuck, no, go ahead, why would I You don't know her. It's been six weeks. We haven't even communicated with her. We don't even know if she's really in love with you.

43:43 Speaker 2: We don't know shit, Like, we don't know any of that.

43:46 Speaker 1: Why would you? He's like, He's like, actually, think it's kind of egregious.

43:48 Speaker 2: You would come in my home and ask me that I just mettion you two hours ago, and you won't ask me if you get my daughter's getting marriage and I ain't seen her talk to my daughter in weeks? No, lol. He laughed at him. Right, so Colton, knowing he's gonna pick Cassidy like this was the girl he was gonna pick. The other two girls, their parents gave a yes. They gave a hell yes, an enthusiastic sure. Cassidy's parent said nah or Cassie whatever her name is not the important part. But what is important is that this woman that was fully in the right to know that her dad.

44:21 Speaker 1: Said no, he told her that.

44:23 Speaker 2: Culton told her that, and she basically comes snapped out of her seven week bubble of being on the Bachelor.

44:30 Speaker 1: She goes from being in love with.

44:31 Speaker 2: This man and thinking it's him and wanting it to be him, to being like, wait, what it kind of all you see it all realize on her face that this is actually impractical, that this is her real life, that she's talking about engagement, in marriage and all these things with this man she ain't even met. Whoa my dad said no, my dad wouldn't be on board. I can't go against my parents. My parents cannot be at my wedding. What are you even asking me? She dips the fuck out. Culton is like, I can't go on if she leaves, even though I have four other girls here in this bungalow in whatever you know, tribal or whatever, like you know, little situation they picked up love island tight you know, bungalow.

45:12 Speaker 2: He jumps the motorized fence. After Cassie leaves. Because she leaves, she breaks up with him and leave. She's like, I can't do this, this is in my life. He spasses out. Never seen anything like it. He jumps the fence of the encampment of where they are. He decides to escape the place, like the production. He escapes production completely and doesn't come back. He runs away because he has to go run after her.

45:36 Speaker 1: He has to. Even if she says no to an engagement, he can't let her go.

45:40 Speaker 2: We're thinking, we're thinking, oh my god, romance, Oh my god, he loves her, Oh my god. They leave the show will date, will date? Be boyfriend girlfriend? The bachelor always ends in an engagement or nothing. That's usually the case. He's like, no, we're not gonna do that. She said we can be boyfriend girlfriend. I don't want to lose her. I'll make her my fiance. After blah blah, this woman proceeds to follow restraining order. After some time, I think, like they did it like a year, year and a half.

46:06 Speaker 2: It's granted. Let me tell you about how hard it is to get a granted restraining order or order of protection against the man. But what you need to do in order to get that is probably if you're being stalked, if someone is allegedly showing up in places where your friends are like, we go out to happy hour and you see a certain person that you know I don't want to see and you don't want to see, and we like, look at us drinking out tequila shots and you're just like, what out of the window? How did they get here?

46:31 Speaker 2: How did they know we are here? Why are you here? That is weird? Four months I mean, unrelenting stalking this girl, not letting her live and separate in peace. But then when the girl finds out about it, and it's like you're bad, You're abusive towards women, He's like, I'm gay.

46:51 Speaker 1: I can't be. I've lived in the closet my whole life. That's the reason why I'm like this.

46:57 Speaker 2: And yet people are like Hollywood is like, okay, sure, we'll give you a platform.

47:01 Speaker 1: That's why he's here.

47:02 Speaker 2: But then you use words like I'm gonna take a trader hostage and it's Lisa Renna, a woman, and you say if I can't find a trader, I'm gonna take one hostage.

47:13 Speaker 1: And made me feel so icky.

47:16 Speaker 4: Morgan.

47:16 Speaker 2: I paused my TV strange to say, Sir, a judge said, you're stocky.

47:24 Speaker 1: He's not that. Yeah, he's not a good person.

47:29 Speaker 2: So for him to say that and then confront Lisa like that, it really gave her the leg up that she kind of needed so that it could deflect because now he just looks like an asshole.

47:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, the faithfuls on her side, I don't think.

47:42 Speaker 2: We're especially the gays, the days and the girls they were like, I know, he didn't just ask her in the round table to get on a table and dance perform for him. And now when she says maybe I'll do it, he's like, good, you should. And if you want me to like, you know, not think of you as one thing, you need to get on that table and dance.

48:02 Speaker 1: He's just I don't know that smart.

48:04 Speaker 3: He thinks he's so smart he thinks and it's like it's disgusting to watch. Actually that's what me and talking about. Yeah, I want to watch him do that. I just want him out there. We want him gone.

48:16 Speaker 2: And I think the best way to get anywhere closer and we'll talk about what Rob did in the second is you know a nice housewife themed dinner party.

48:25 Speaker 1: I love that Alan is bringing a little bit of my world into a whole lot of y'all's worlds.

48:30 Speaker 2: Because what you don't get on Survivor, Big Brother and all the other reality shows is the opportunity to watch the personalities personality over wine.

48:41 Speaker 4: And you can't food, and you can't always hide your true self, especially when there's wine involved.

48:47 Speaker 1: So some sis were going to happen.

48:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, many, Okay, Lisa A Renda wants asked a person to their face. Where people doing coke in your bathroom? She said it to Deri on the househous of Beverly Hills cast Trip. House wife Lisa Renda shines at a dinner. So when you asked her Colton to show, she said, okay, I'll bring now his wife out.

49:07 Speaker 1: Alan. He said a banquet, and she said, do.

49:12 Speaker 3: You think she can murder Colton with the brooch?

49:16 Speaker 2: I absolutely do, because I think she knows that she can. He asked for it, so I think you can do that. And the only way that she can call his bluff on hole. You want to say, I'm a trader. Oh you want to clock me, Yeah, I'll clock you. You can clock me. I'll let you do it right now in front of all these people, and I'll take you out.

49:35 Speaker 1: And because I'm a trader, you have nothing you can do about it.

49:39 Speaker 3: You have to do what It's a murder in plain sight. But what that called attention to her with Colton getting.

49:44 Speaker 1: You know, we're the ones that know.

49:46 Speaker 2: They just think that at this extravagant Lisa Rina an extravagant long term soap opera actress who was on soaps for thirty years and on the house I of Beverly Hills, Darling, bling, bling, blink. She she she is wearing a brooch and a giant ass et. That's just Lisa Rivera. That's her doing her job. And didn't Cogan ask her to housewife it up? He did, That's what I say. She yeah, he did. So when she comes down in that brooch in her big head, what's she supposed to do? Will you asked for this?

50:16 Speaker 1: Boo boo?

50:17 Speaker 2: I'm serving yeah, all of this from someone who I as a housewife watcher.

50:22 Speaker 1: I hate Lisa Renna. I hated her on Beverly Hills. I wanted her on. I'm glad she was fired. I'm very pleased that she's fired.

50:29 Speaker 2: I hope she does not come back to Beverly Hills Housewives, though I think she's doing swell here. How do you feel about Rob being a trader, because I also know Love Island is not necessarily a place where I'll find you. No, it is a place you will find me if you ever do dabble, You'll find me over there on that island.

50:47 Speaker 3: Love Island really got a lot of my friends this past season who were not Love Island watchers.

50:51 Speaker 1: Which is crazy because this past season was not great.

50:54 Speaker 3: It was the season buffle, which which I heard was also strengthened my reasoning for not watching, because I think it was the season that was amazing.

51:01 Speaker 1: Oh it was okay, Well, Rob's season was great.

51:04 Speaker 2: This current season with Alandria, and you know a lot of people that are watching, everyone's beautiful.

51:10 Speaker 1: It's just that people did not come and understand.

51:12 Speaker 4: Unfortunately.

51:13 Speaker 3: I think that was employed from the government to distract us. But that's a whole conversation for another day.

51:18 Speaker 1: Morgan.

51:18 Speaker 3: What I think of Rob, I think he's doing a fantastic drop as a trader until this most recent round table, and I really tried to make sense of his decision. Right, so he writes down Lisa, and I knew he did it because I could. I've made out the little scribbles. He right Lisa's name because he cannot do wrong, he cannot get wrong, he cannot do Colton. He feels like he has he his heart can't do wrong, but his mind can't do Colton. He likes Wrong as a person, but has an alliance with Colton. So my brain is trying to say, Okay, he's trying to do Lisa as the most obvious option.

51:55 Speaker 3: I guess to throw everybody else off the scent, and he knows, which he does admit that this is going to cause some tension between he and Lisa. So I guess his train of thought is like, Okay, I can work this out when the turret, but I can't work this out with the faithfuls if I don't.

52:11 Speaker 1: Know, vote for Ron or vote for Yeah.

52:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that I I totally I think that makes the complete That makes complete sense. It's probably what likely was his train of thought. I think even one step further, I think he was really clocking or anticipating not enough people voting Lisa.

52:28 Speaker 1: I think he knew right right exactly, not.

52:31 Speaker 2: Enough people would be on Coulton's side that quickly to vote Lisa.

52:36 Speaker 1: It's a risk.

52:37 Speaker 2: It was a calculated risk. It's not one I would have taken, but I am not a risk. Yeah, I probably would have voted for Coulton because if you know, if you are sitting there and you're like, as a faithful, we're all having this epiphany as faithfuls that Ron is obviously not the trader. But the only other person talking right now is Qulton and Lisa. I at least would have gone with Culton because other people could be convinced of that. The only person talking about Coulton right now is Lisa. I think he was like, I wanted to show Colton that I have my alliance with him, but I would have thought a step even further than no one's gonna vote out Lisa, but also no one's gonna keep Colton.

53:18 Speaker 2: I can vote out Coulton. I can fuck up that alliance. He's gonna be out of here in a day or two, because if he does make it through this roundtable, Lisa's probably gonna want to take him out in the turret. So I'm gonna it's okay if he thinks I betrayed him it's not okay if Ron thinks you betrayed him, which I understood. My issue with Rob doing this was when he came to say what he said that was a problem and I had to write it down because I was like, oh no, honey, this is it. Now you're gonna betray Ron and out yourself.

53:49 Speaker 2: He said to them at the roundtable. I believe Ron is a faithful and my job as a faithful is to get out a trader. And okay, so then you're admitting that you know she's a trade because that.

54:00 Speaker 1: Was vote for Lisa. You could have did that differently. He didn't have to say he.

54:04 Speaker 2: Could have done that differently. You could have said that differently. You could have worded that differently. If you had to vote for Lisa, you could have just said he made a really convincing argument, like and I don't know Colton to be a liar, knowledging your alliance or whatever, but I know I'm not getting out of run and I'm not sacrificing him for you.

54:20 Speaker 1: Exactly. My jobs gett a trader.

54:22 Speaker 2: But he knew it wasn't going to be Lisa that would expose him. But he wasn't thinking that anybody else was also listening to what he's saying and might hold on to that then. And I don't know if he knows that now, but we've watched enough Traders in past seasons and stuff to know that they do hold onto those words, they do hear those things.

54:41 Speaker 1: And then you're like, because.

54:45 Speaker 2: They're still heading wrong with Porsche from day one and Lisa, oh, well, you went against the housewife and you weren't supposed to.

54:51 Speaker 1: And that's a bullshit argument.

54:53 Speaker 3: I don't like that Colt, who keeps saying that, like, different seasons are played different ways, different gamers play different ways.

54:58 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.

55:00 Speaker 2: I know you don't watch enough Housewives, then, Colton, and you're not a good gay. That's my I'm here to tell you. On behalf of the gays that I've talked to, they don't want to claim you. They're saying, you give Caitlyn Jenner vibes to my girl exactly. They were like, he does not represent us, like he's over there because like, I guess, girl if you want, But like, I don't know the way you're talking to women who are usually allies to the LGBTQ community, especially house wives are huge allies. So you attacking them is like really weird to me, and you're just like in your overall energy of demanding that this lady do the most because otherwise or else, and then to threaten everybody.

55:42 Speaker 2: Y'all better kill me tonight, otherwise I'm taking every shield I see, Sir, you are a baby, and I'm not having a good time with.

55:49 Speaker 1: You being here, not at all. He's the I'm not.

55:52 Speaker 2: I just don't like that yourself a little bit. The vibes are off, and I just think that when Colton gets off, we're gonna have time with Rob and people are gonna be like remember when he said he knew he had to get a trader out. I think he loved ron and he just couldn't go down. It couldn't be ron So doing with Lisa. And but that's gonna out him. And right now I kind of don't want to mess up to traders because I like these traders.

56:15 Speaker 1: You like this group.

56:18 Speaker 4: All chance of winning. Bringing in somebody else who said.

56:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you think they had to brough somebody else, which they I.

56:25 Speaker 4: Would be intrigued. They brought in Natalie. He seems to be a very strong, faithful so it'll be interested to see if how she would do as a trader if they flipped her. That's the only thought I've had about another trader. If they added one, I think everybody else remain faithful. I can't see.

56:41 Speaker 1: I think they could.

56:43 Speaker 2: I think they could invite Yam Yam to be one only because people already anticipated it being him. And he's also not the best faithful because he and Maara popped up from that haunted house and they said.

56:58 Speaker 1: He was like, should we get the shields?

57:00 Speaker 3: She said no, We're thankful he's under attic because like maybe two people have been looking at him.

57:08 Speaker 4: But I don't think there are any strong votes for Yanyam, all the more.

57:11 Speaker 2: Reason why to me he should be a trader. If they pull him in, people are gonna think it. They've already thought it, and it's moved on. And I think that.

57:18 Speaker 1: He would be really easy to like.

57:22 Speaker 3: Uh.

57:22 Speaker 2: I think he have good gameplay because he's already kind of thinking about himself a little bit, and he'd be able to talk himself in and out of that. And I know Rob would also be able to talk to Lisa about that. They don't even get a moment to Rob can talk to Lisa about like what he did and why they did some shit, But they don't even have a moment because they have to do a murder and playing sight because maybe the housewives banquet, of the housewives style banquet is what I'll pull it. That long table, extravagant.

57:49 Speaker 2: We all come dressed down up to the nines, but read each.

57:53 Speaker 1: Other for filth.

57:54 Speaker 2: Here for that, and it seems like we're gonna get some good stuff from there, and it's gonna feel as luxurious and glamorous as we wanted it to, which is a stark difference in contrast to this haunted house from this episode that okay, okay, we can leave me, but sure, I do have problems with the realness of the.

58:16 Speaker 4: Most coming walks.

58:21 Speaker 2: There was that moment though, where the haunted Lady was screaming bloody man and Derinda was screaming bloody murder back in her face, and they just kept screaming at each other.

58:36 Speaker 2: That would make me laugh too. I just don't like the bugs. I can't do them, Candice. I'm the first one out of there getting the words wrong on the tombstone because I just can't.

58:45 Speaker 1: I just can't. I'm sorry.

58:47 Speaker 2: Although Candace didn't mean to do that Trader ship and get the name wrong and bank no money.

58:52 Speaker 1: She didn't mean to do that. She didn't.

58:55 Speaker 2: She was just trying to get out. But that did feel like the Trader thing to do. But we're just trying to was skepe. Okay, listen, I am very excited for the rest of this season.

59:04 Speaker 1: We're halfway through.

59:06 Speaker 2: Curious to think if you think the Traders will win this season or not.

59:13 Speaker 3: I think I am rooting for them to win. First of all, I am too. Second of all, I do think they have a strong chance. I do like this Core Bob and Lisa can work out that tension, because if they can, I don't know who's going to get them. No one has been close to candas, no one's been close to Rob, So the only kind of iffy point right now is Lisa. Yeah.

59:33 Speaker 1: Yeah.

59:33 Speaker 2: In fact, the only person who's been close to Rob was Ron, which is really funny to me that he tried.

59:39 Speaker 1: To save them, because if it had worked, he would have been like, it's you. Ro would have been like, you're my friend, But it's you, baby, it's you.

59:46 Speaker 3: I think if you winless season, and I want them to this has been a bad gaul for me. Also, I don't know a lot of these people. I came in no way Portia. I knew Derenda because she got murdered the first episode last season listen, and I didn't really know anyone else house. So I'm really off of like just what I've seen this season so far.

1:00:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I know of a lot of these people.

1:00:08 Speaker 2: I of course more so know any housewife of course, and Coulton than anybody from the Bachelor. I think that we could have gotten better Bachelor representation than Coulton. Honestly, I think you should have put Nick Viole on here. If you wanted to go for a terrible Bachelor from the past, do that, man. But that's just me.

1:00:25 Speaker 1: I would.

1:00:26 Speaker 2: I can't wait for the reunion because we also will have a Trader's reunion and Lisa Rena has already started fighting Colton on the internet.

1:00:34 Speaker 1: I saw the tiktoks. I have back the housef if you want it, she said.

1:00:40 Speaker 2: Next, talk about the stocking, because once upon a time Kim Richards from House hos to Beverly Hills, Kyle Richards's sister and Paris Hilton's aunt, said well, you don't want to talk about Harry Hamlin. You don't want to talk about the husbands, and Lisa Rinna said, let's talk about the husband, and then thirty seconds later through a glass at her and said.

1:00:59 Speaker 1: Don't you ever put Harry Hamlin's name, and you're off again.

1:01:02 Speaker 2: She said, don't play with her. She also first lasts her own husband. If you didn't know, she said it two episodes ago on The Traders. She said, Harry Hamlin would be so proud of me.

1:01:12 Speaker 4: I didn't know who that was?

1:01:15 Speaker 2: Her own husband. She always has. He's very important to like white acting.

1:01:24 Speaker 1: I could yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, back in the day. He was in there. He was in there. You know, they had him in there.

1:01:31 Speaker 2: I watched him on mad Men because I like mad Men, and he was in the later seasons, but like not the reason.

1:01:37 Speaker 1: The show was good.

1:01:38 Speaker 2: But she loves her being married to Harry Hamlin. She's screwed Oka, but she's married to Harry Hamlin. So she lets to remind you that Harry Hamlin would be so proud of me, and I'm like, love it, girl. I love the quirks of Lisa Reena away from my other girls join her.

1:01:52 Speaker 4: This is my first introduction to her.

1:01:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say she was doing really well on here.

1:01:56 Speaker 2: I think this is a great place for Bravo p This is what they said, Brava people the air out. I don't y'all don't know that. I swear to God. That's why Tom Sanders wasting so much last season. We'll talk offline later. He was sweating so much less season. They really do be saying this is where you get your audition in to go back to your job, and some get it, some don't.

1:02:15 Speaker 1: Fader got her job back, Porsia got her job back.

1:02:21 Speaker 1: Yes she is.

1:02:22 Speaker 3: I love MEAs when I used to watch this show in like elementary school.

1:02:25 Speaker 1: YEA love you.

1:02:26 Speaker 2: Fasia is my girl, y'all know I love Fasier. I'm glad she back and on House I's Ultimate Girls trip. Faeder on there with Ninni and Porscha and they just filmed the TikTok together going bling bling bling, bitch?

1:02:38 Speaker 1: Is this mad? That's cute?

1:02:41 Speaker 2: We're back, guys, were so back. It feels like all is right with the world. Twenty sixteen is back again. Morgan, what else are you watching that's giving you joy, that is helping you stay balanced? As a working professional, because you're actually not just my friend. You're so important out there to other people and employee to do amazing important things. So how do you debrief? How do you dissociate? What are you watching this for giving you? You're dopamine these days, so you're you already know one of these shows and you love one of these shows.

1:03:10 Speaker 2: It's a It's a little show called Abba Elementary and it's probably the funniest thing I've seen in my life. It's so relatable, it's so funny, especially if you went to school in public schools. It's hilarious and it's it's still good.

1:03:25 Speaker 1: I'll watch it on Tell. The schoolhouse is actually one of the funniest places to be real. I've never seen anything real or more relatable. That show is hilarious.

1:03:35 Speaker 2: Shout out to Quinsa and whatever consultants they have on that show.

1:03:40 Speaker 1: My god, they are a good consult They're getting it right. They're getting so right. Abbott is amazing. Okay, what else? What else?

1:03:48 Speaker 3: I just finished His and Hers. It took me a while. Everybody was loving it. It took me a while to get into it. But once that plot twist hit, the first plot twist. Then the second one, I said, oh, this is good.

1:03:58 Speaker 1: That was a good.

1:03:59 Speaker 2: God, and you told me not finish the show yet. I was hesitant to finish to watch the show. I did read the book. The book was really good. I was aware of the plot twists and things and was like, there's no way I can do that on a show.

1:04:13 Speaker 1: But you know, I love Tesla Thompson. It took them a while, it did it? Did? It seems like it because I'm like episode four.

1:04:21 Speaker 2: And I'm like, exactly, I'm like, okay, I'm raally, what's happening really?

1:04:29 Speaker 1: But it's okay, five.

1:04:30 Speaker 4: And six of the last three episodes, so that's when I really.

1:04:32 Speaker 2: So then yeah, you're like, oh wow a red Herring until we got a speed out of here and enter that climax.

1:04:37 Speaker 1: Okay, and then but it's really good.

1:04:39 Speaker 3: Okay, keep going as a gay I feel like I started Sargeant watched this out of obligation. I finished episode one of Heated Rivalry. I don't know where it's going. I think I'm on TV. You're gonna like it. Okay, I'll see you at the cottage. I'll meet you in the cottage, Okay, Okay, So I'll finish that up. But other than that, I been getting back into my movie bag. There's a movie called with Emma Stone, Jesse Plemons, some other people in it. It was so good so and I watch it over the weekend. It's about Jesse Plemons thinks Emma Stone is alien basically, and it's about him capturing her and then going through this whole thing.

1:05:15 Speaker 1: It's it's good. You should watch it. I think that's a good date night movie for you, you and by.

1:05:19 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm in that kind of love right now. That's very early stages, okay, honeymoon love, like first couple of years. Maya would literally have to buy me something new to get me to watch whatever the hell you just talk about that, But it sounds great for y'all. And I love wrecks of date night.

1:05:39 Speaker 4: And love and long distance.

1:05:42 Speaker 3: Anybody else listens for you got to like start and stop at the same time, Like once you go, you remember you remember those baby, I do.

1:05:48 Speaker 1: I do, I famously. I don't know people.

1:05:51 Speaker 2: I'm so it's always so weird to me that there are new people that listen to this every day. But like, if you've been listening weirdly since like twenty nineteen. Then you know that I was in that. I'm married to my long distance now, so I know it can work if you work it.

1:06:03 Speaker 1: It's like the steps. It can work. When you work it, it can't work.

1:06:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I did it on I had to get on a plane that was awful, and in college, with no money, sold my entire handbag collection.

1:06:15 Speaker 1: I remember that. Actually I don't even know people.

1:06:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy, Like wow, I said, my whole life of kimbulating in that bad collection.

1:06:24 Speaker 1: And the woman I love and I'm married to is sitting nearby. I can't hear a thing. Well, maybe one day she were punished that collection. I wish.

1:06:31 Speaker 2: I was hoping that she would hear me talking about it and feel the urge and the impending shame, like maybe I should get on that in the next five to ten years. But no, she just playing her game, having a good time, but in her musk, being so supportive, and when I hang up with you, she gonna be.

1:06:45 Speaker 1: Like, how was it? That was probably so fun? Yeah, the bags came up, the bags? How about the bags?

1:06:54 Speaker 2: I think if you are watching here a rivalry, you're in it right now. Have fun industry also very good. I'm watching that right now, y'all. I just found the Pit and I'm watching that.

1:07:06 Speaker 1: Love it.

1:07:06 Speaker 2: People tell me I was told that, you know, famous to get roasted for talking about how I still watch Grais Anatomy on here because I can't give up on stuff. I'm a loyalist. Yeah, if it's not bad to me, then I don't have a problem. And so they said the Pit was like if Gray's Anatomy had real writers again and real actors again. And I'm They're not wrong. There's big moments of funny, hilarious moments of funny, like big life stuff, real things. I love it. It's an amazing show and I'm really grateful for it.

1:07:40 Speaker 2: I do think that if Gray's Anatomy had writers, this would be it.

1:07:44 Speaker 3: Well, I haven't watched Gray since COVID, so I don't know what's going on.

1:07:47 Speaker 1: Since Meredith had COVID, I hadn't watched I can't really tell you how long I've been. I just know that I'm still in it.

1:07:53 Speaker 2: Okay, you know whatever they throw a new little you know, little black boy or some icon of gay a girl somebody that I know and like, I watch it so seasons.

1:08:09 Speaker 1: The General Hospital has They just don't.

1:08:12 Speaker 2: They're still going forty thirty thirty plus.

1:08:16 Speaker 1: This is headed with Gradies? Got it? Grays? Is it? You headed down there? Okay? So I'm watching that. I'm watching the Pit.

1:08:23 Speaker 2: I'm into, you know, this new season of Shark Tank because I actually really love to watch. I like to know what to buy and I like to know who is investing in it, because y'all stay mad when I'm like, that's a shark Tank company, Like wait, really, yes, your scrub daddy's, your squatty bodies, your bambas daddies, Yes, okay, your bamba socks, honey, those are all. I just saw a commercial your ring doorbell Shark Tank. I'm gonna be the first. I have to be the first on the bandwagon. So I'm watching that.

1:08:51 Speaker 1: You haven't mentioned one show. I'm surprised about. Which one? Is it?

1:08:54 Speaker 4: Night of the Seven Kingdoms?

1:08:55 Speaker 1: Have you started that?

1:08:57 Speaker 2: I have not started it yet. I just actually found out like today that it's out by right now. So I was like, oh, okay, I got to do that, but I got sucked into the pit, you know, and then watch Traders and Traders is so good as Destination television.

1:09:17 Speaker 1: We'd be right ready by three two? Are you ready at the space bar?

1:09:21 Speaker 2: And then wait, hold on Mine's buffery exactly, No, that's me.

1:09:28 Speaker 2: Oh no, that's that Baltimore WiFi.

1:09:31 Speaker 1: Well did you have off earlier? I love you, Morgan, Thanks so much for being here today.

1:09:36 Speaker 2: Is there a message you want to leave for the people as they are living their lives and we're leaving them.

1:09:40 Speaker 1: To please be kind?

1:09:42 Speaker 3: Please be kind to people. I don't really, I do care about what's going on in the world. That's not excuse to be mean. Also, also, rebellion is finding joy. It's okay to find joy and hold on to joy in the midst of all the horrible things that are happening. There are plenty of videos that came out from Minnesota of people still finding joy even though horrific things are happening. So I will say those two things, be kind to another fine joy. And I'm just really happy that I got to.

1:10:06 Speaker 1: Do this with theor. It was actually pretty fun. I'm so glad you got to do this with me, Morgi. This is the best.

1:10:11 Speaker 2: I'm so glad y'all got to hear mixes, y'all got to hear another little slice of my world. I got the best friends who have the best taste because they're all friends with me. They just are struggling to understand the TV, the what I want them to watch. It's just it's there if they just choose to accept it. Speaking of that joy, but I'm so glad that we have found a place where.

1:10:32 Speaker 1: Our minds can mail and meet in the middle and we can.

1:10:36 Speaker 2: Have our talk and be about the good shows that we are all watching and we're all like obsessed.

1:10:42 Speaker 1: With right now.

1:10:43 Speaker 2: Please continue, Thank you, Thank you guys so much for listening. Of course, do things they make you happy. I really want to piggyback off of what Morgi said. You always end with be kind, do your best to you know, be kind to yourself. Rest is also productive. I can't explain that enough. If you're feeling more exhausted, overwhelmed, emotionally tired and confused lately, find that joy, hold on to it.

1:11:06 Speaker 1: Joy is rebellion because they really want to break.

1:11:08 Speaker 2: You down now so that it is so much easier for you to accept whatever is being spoon fed as normal natural reality. And right now, in order to preserve humanity, you gotta preserve your own humanity. First, you gotta be a human, So find your joy, have your balance, be okay, do what you gotta do to take care of yourself and then also take care of others. It's not don't let's just do those do both proquet no los dose, take care of yourselves and each other.

1:11:36 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening, and of course.

1:11:38 Speaker 2: Follow me on all the things at Mixing with Money and my x I N G W I T h M A N I as always stay happy, stay healthy, stay safe, and stay home because it's cold right now. Man like it's cold where I am. It's yeah, stay safe if you're a part of this blizzard situation. My dog is about to bark, so I'm gonna let y'all go ahead and have your day. It