Field Dispatch
216. RHOSLC Reunion pt. 2 w/ Mark (@thepinkpopbox)
Field Notes
The Salt Lake City Reunion is in full swing and not Missing! Part two did not disappoint and needed a proper comb through with all the walk, offs and tears and Dramatics. I know I say this every time but Mark and I TRULY had a ball and a kiki talking about this highly entertaining and dramatic part 2 of the reunion. It was all said on there and we said it all on here. Have a blast with us and come mix it up!
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Speaker 1: Oh hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologists out there.
Speaker 1: It is your girl Money and you are in the
Speaker 1: mix with Money. And by popular demand, of course, Mark
Speaker 1: from the Pink Pop Box, My good Judy, Your good Judy.
Speaker 1: He is here because y'all we have a lot to
Speaker 1: discuss with this Salt Lake City reunion, and there is
Speaker 1: no one else I could have on here. It's so
Speaker 1: funny because while y'all were like itching and scratching your hair, going,
Speaker 1: you know, ain't her Mark in the mix in a minute?
Speaker 1: I too was like, you know, I ain't had Mark
Speaker 1: in the mix in a minute, and I forgot so
Speaker 1: I just say, hey, it's my show. How you doing, Mark?
Speaker 2: How are you there hanging in there? I mean, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six is twenty twenty six?
Speaker 1: And is it? Isn't it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Cool man. I hope you had a nice holiday. I
Speaker 1: hope you had a nice little break. And then you know,
Speaker 1: but already this year kicking but out the gate. It's
Speaker 1: coming in hot. We're only about three weeks in to January,
Speaker 1: although it already feels like it's been a month, Like
Speaker 1: I feel like we should be further than we are.
Speaker 1: I both was like we're moving fast and it's only
Speaker 1: the twenty first.
Speaker 2: That is why.
Speaker 1: That's nothing for me.
Speaker 2: I mean, at least Kyle and Amanda broke up, that
Speaker 2: was good news.
Speaker 1: Chat Alm will put out my ginger tea. No, seriously,
Speaker 1: it's not that that was good news. Now listen, Kyle
Speaker 1: and Amanda from the Summer House did announce their getting
Speaker 1: a divorced, their separating. They're moving on from each other
Speaker 1: in their Maryrital life, separate ways. They are a few
Speaker 1: years not very many, but a few years age and
Speaker 1: difference but or different in age. But also we saw
Speaker 1: this coming when they got married. We were like watching
Speaker 1: the season. I remember it being very tough to watch
Speaker 1: the season of Summer House after their wedding had already
Speaker 1: been filmed and been done, and watching the season of
Speaker 1: what was leading up to it and going, wow, these
Speaker 1: are people ready to go down the aisle at the
Speaker 1: end of this. But they did, Thank God, because we're
Speaker 1: gonna see this dissolve on camera in just too a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: Baby.
Speaker 1: The first thing I want to see is the backlash
Speaker 1: of you falling asleep at a fans house. Let's see
Speaker 1: what explain to me how you like like the logic
Speaker 1: is not logicing. There's no way I've taken. I've gone
Speaker 1: through like many different avenues in my mind of like
Speaker 1: drunk Kyle from what we've seen on Summer House and
Speaker 1: in life, all the different thoughts, and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: still don't see how you ended up there. You mean
Speaker 1: to tell me you don't know Michayla, Michayla from you know,
Speaker 1: from Sam and you ended up at Michaela's house crashing
Speaker 1: on the couch. And then your response was like, no,
Speaker 1: I didn't sleep at a Fans house. I fell asleep
Speaker 1: on the couch at a Fans house and not at
Speaker 1: my house that I have. You don't got to have
Speaker 1: my warehouse with two dogs or bad even I don't know.
Speaker 1: You don't have a surface to lay on you out
Speaker 1: of surfaces. You hate home so much. We here was
Speaker 1: nowhere else to go but divorce because you hate home
Speaker 1: so much. First, Girly to ask for an autograph, You're like,
Speaker 1: you know what, You're got a party at your house, y'all. Come,
Speaker 1: I'll come your matter. If you crash, you're on this couch, baby,
Speaker 1: it's given homeless. I need you to time down, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's given loveless and homeless, so you know, shout out
Speaker 1: dree toothless not homeless. It is given loveless and homeless.
Speaker 1: Was loveless, not homeless. Like you have a house still again,
Speaker 1: don't know how you landed at somebody else's home. I
Speaker 1: have to divorce you for looking stupid and making me
Speaker 1: look stupid with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, m m m m.
Speaker 1: I don't get it, but you know, somehow summer will
Speaker 1: be fun for us. That cast is getting bigger and bigger,
Speaker 1: it seems, you know, by the day, So they're gonna
Speaker 1: need to get our attention those those ogs. And let
Speaker 1: me tell you this, might know it. I'm a watch Okay,
Speaker 1: y'all gonna give you back in Destination television. Speaking of
Speaker 1: Destination television, Baby, part two of reunions typically don't hold
Speaker 1: all of my interests because they're really just middle grounds.
Speaker 1: Like we come out the gates swinging and then we
Speaker 1: end with bangs and be like, how are we gonna
Speaker 1: film next season? But the Salt La City Girl said, Lol,
Speaker 1: hold my snowflake, not me, honey, not me, bitch. I
Speaker 1: will keep your attention every minute every part of this reunion.
Speaker 1: Was this any exception to you, Mark, how did you feel?
Speaker 1: Were you tapped in? Dowt In From moment one, I.
Speaker 2: Went into this saying it is going to be boring.
Speaker 2: The second part is always boring. I was pleasantly surprised.
Speaker 2: I was proud of them. They held they held my
Speaker 2: interest and let me tell you, let me tell you,
Speaker 2: I never thought i'd say this, But I never thought
Speaker 2: i'd see Mary cos on a reunion and she did.
Speaker 1: Okay she did. And let me tell y'all, not only
Speaker 1: did I see Mary Cosby on the reunion and did
Speaker 1: she do it? She did that thing. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: lie to you. I think Mary is having an excellent
Speaker 1: reunion for someone who doesn't reunion like. She's having a
Speaker 1: better one than all of these girls who have been
Speaker 1: here a year after year. She don't have anybody that
Speaker 1: she need to be her sidekick or on her side.
Speaker 1: She's handling her own, she's answering her questions, She's got
Speaker 1: her package. I was really worried. I'm not Mary not worried.
Speaker 1: I was worried more, and we'll get to it in
Speaker 1: a moment. But I was worried more about the Mary
Speaker 1: package and the church and the cult thing that Mary
Speaker 1: was Mary was like child the way they've been talking
Speaker 1: about me for all these years. And I'm like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: say Mary alone. She was like and next and okay,
Speaker 1: and say so try something else, Okay, all right? Mary?
Speaker 1: So yeah, Part two didn't disappoint me either. I remember
Speaker 1: we started out first thing with you know, Angie being like, hey,
Speaker 1: this scroll I got, I got this scroll and it
Speaker 1: says Lisa is the troll. You are the mother of
Speaker 1: the troll. Do you believe that Lisa is Lisa's phone
Speaker 1: number and all of these things because they hit the
Speaker 1: password reset and it went to that person's number. However,
Speaker 1: I don't think that necessarily means and confirms that they
Speaker 1: are linked to the account, or that an account can
Speaker 1: put down a phone number. I feel like I could
Speaker 1: put Mark's number into my Instagram right now.
Speaker 2: Probably you could. What will happen is that you can
Speaker 2: put any phone, you know, email or phone number into
Speaker 2: that Instagram recovery and it's still gonna send it to
Speaker 2: the actual original phone. So them having Lisa's phone number
Speaker 2: there with the last four guess what. That's what Instagram does.
Speaker 2: It shows you those glass digits that was not Lisa's account.
Speaker 2: They trying so hard. I never seen them work so
Speaker 2: hard to tear her down like they are this year.
Speaker 1: It does seem like this reunion there is a very
Speaker 1: particular we do so you can't do. And Lisa and
Speaker 1: Meredith's response to that is you're saying we do and
Speaker 1: y'all do it too, which I've always thought is a
Speaker 1: valid response for housewives where I have a problem. And
Speaker 1: this is why again y'all gonna force people to be
Speaker 1: in the gaggle of baby gorgeous is with us? Why
Speaker 1: are all you bitches screaming at Lisa for anything like
Speaker 1: Meredith is sitting right there and I know we do
Speaker 1: get to Meredith. The fact that this is taking up
Speaker 1: this much of your mental space, where Meredith really is
Speaker 1: right there giving you absolute sty called jericho of you
Speaker 1: will not get me to relent. And y'all know she lying,
Speaker 1: But y'all are hard pressed, four or five at a
Speaker 1: time to be on Lisa's behind because what because she
Speaker 1: told you all that she got a life that's more
Speaker 1: fabulous than yours, you believe it's smoking mirrors, So why
Speaker 1: does it bother you that much? That's my question? Why
Speaker 1: you if you think Lisa don't really got that kind
Speaker 1: of life.
Speaker 2: Well they all know today she's got that kind of
Speaker 2: life because the Sundance Film Festival just name them their queen.
Speaker 1: Oh and there you have it. And that's on Sundance, okay,
Speaker 1: And that's on Miss Barlow, thank you, and that's on Lisa,
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm just like, I just want to want
Speaker 1: to know, Angie, you you knew to check that because
Speaker 1: and I understand you clocking it and this, but this
Speaker 1: wasn't your Monica got you moment because y'all all have
Speaker 1: burner accounts or you troll each other, and you will
Speaker 1: not convince me otherwise. This is a tail as old
Speaker 1: as housewives, Like there's very few that don't. And it's so,
Speaker 1: in which case I really don't want to hear it.
Speaker 1: This is not the same thing. This is not the
Speaker 1: gotcha you think it is where you put had to
Speaker 1: print it out on a scroll, baby, This was not
Speaker 1: your binder moment. I needed Meta himself to come. I
Speaker 1: need a Zuckerberge to come down from the Silicon Valley
Speaker 1: throne and say that that is miss Barlow's personal Facebook
Speaker 1: that is connected to the Instagram, because it would be
Speaker 1: more than a number nowadays Instagram is connected to your meta,
Speaker 1: your threads, this, the that, but all the stuff not
Speaker 1: to mention. Isn't it just as simple as like you
Speaker 1: can go to if you block Lisa, you can also
Speaker 1: it'll like show like all the accounts yes you, that
Speaker 1: they've ever created. I've done it recently, so I know
Speaker 1: it lists all the accounts that they have created. And
Speaker 1: if it don't see miss Barlow, then when is the
Speaker 1: pride and what we're talking about?
Speaker 2: Well, all I can say is ang is becoming quite
Speaker 2: the tryhard this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's so she's so bad. I'm just like, why
Speaker 1: can't it just be enough that you and Lisa don't talk?
Speaker 1: No more like that you're not as.
Speaker 2: Close to Angie. What happened?
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just seems like she's really because
Speaker 1: I'm like, Angie, you would have so much more if
Speaker 1: you didn't stoop down to the level of Heather and them,
Speaker 1: because we all know why Heather is obsessed with Lisa Barlow.
Speaker 1: We're never going to be able to stop. Like, it's
Speaker 1: just interesting to me because this episode she's all on
Speaker 1: her ass. Last episode she was all on Lisa's ass
Speaker 1: but also screaming that Lisa was such an important friend
Speaker 1: to her and the most important friend, and she needed
Speaker 1: to keep her and you're very important. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: are you okay? Like you beat your own self up
Speaker 1: over not being Lisa's friend every night? Is it like
Speaker 1: because I couldn't be a good Mormon wife, I gotta
Speaker 1: be a good friend to this morn this parton, like
Speaker 1: what is it? Calm down? Why do you like get
Speaker 1: out of Lisa's ass? In a way of like, because
Speaker 1: y'all they treat her like if we can't be your
Speaker 1: best friend, then we want to be, then we'll take
Speaker 1: you down. And I think that's just like a weird dynamic.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, and this is something I noticed.
Speaker 2: Heather the entire season, not just a little bit of
Speaker 2: the season, but the entire damn season has been trying
Speaker 2: to have a receipts proof timeline moment at every turn
Speaker 2: with different things, the plane ride, the freaking Boston tea
Speaker 2: party thing, the freaking yacht trip with the below decks.
Speaker 2: She wouldn't let Lisa alone. She kept wanting to have
Speaker 2: these moments with her, And then I realized she's flipping
Speaker 2: out because Lisa's not giving her those moments.
Speaker 1: She's not. But because you're not a safe space though, Heather,
Speaker 1: because at the drop of a dom, look at what
Speaker 1: your actual other intention is like that finale. If you
Speaker 1: are not going to sit down and let us, I
Speaker 1: don't know, interrogate at the very least, harass is likely
Speaker 1: the word I would want to use. But if you
Speaker 1: don't let us interrogate you about what we're choosing to
Speaker 1: bring up right now, because we've all decided that you
Speaker 1: need to answer to your or Seth's or John's or
Speaker 1: whomever's reason you need to answers for their crimes. Do it,
Speaker 1: or else we won't film with you, or else we
Speaker 1: don't want to be your friend anymore. Because that's really
Speaker 1: what this means. It's like good luck trying to get
Speaker 1: us to film with you, or like stay around if
Speaker 1: no one's going to film with you.
Speaker 2: I mean, Carlos King already named Tather Gay the most
Speaker 2: dangerous real housewife out there.
Speaker 1: And why is that?
Speaker 2: Because of what she did to production the black Eye.
Speaker 2: She said somebody on production could have given that to her,
Speaker 2: which is what sparked that whole human resources investigation on
Speaker 2: a corporate level from NBC.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it did. Because what do you mean.
Speaker 2: She lied?
Speaker 1: That's egregious. I'm sorry, that's.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised she still had her job after that.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised too. And then she's allowed so much leeway
Speaker 1: to do whatever she wants, like I and including this,
Speaker 1: like including self producing, and I want to get to
Speaker 1: that self producing thing. In a moment we heard a
Speaker 1: little bit randomly, Meredith kind of threw out there again,
Speaker 1: this is what I'm like. Marredith is right there. Y'all
Speaker 1: so mad at Lisa for not talking about credit card bills.
Speaker 1: Credit card bills. Who gives a shit you think all
Speaker 1: y'all paying off your credit card bills every month? I
Speaker 1: don't believe you. Also, if I cared, I wouldn't watch Potomac.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I love my girls. But if I
Speaker 1: I cared and it didn't matter more that you bring it.
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills needs the labels to be real because they
Speaker 1: are boring period Salt Lake City, Potomac. Y'all don't need that.
Speaker 1: I don't need to know your Gucci is real. I
Speaker 1: need to know that we're doing these big dramatic moments
Speaker 1: between Meredith missed no tears and Brittany missed all tears
Speaker 1: like the campiest stuff, campy, that's what I want. I
Speaker 1: could care less than Polisa's paying off a credit card bill.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I
Speaker 1: don't care because I was captivated yet again until the
Speaker 1: very final moments when the credits rolled and I said,
Speaker 1: damn it, we're done again. We were just getting started.
Speaker 1: Like Andy walked off the first ten minutes of the
Speaker 1: reunion because he was like, y'all won't stop yapping. But
Speaker 1: I'm I think I have a hot take, Mark, and
Speaker 1: I want yours.
Speaker 2: To say it saying I don't think I liked.
Speaker 1: The fact that he walked off and did that, because
Speaker 1: I kind of wanted them to continue that yet, though
Speaker 1: I feel how I feel about Lisa Barlow maybe not
Speaker 1: being the troll, I wanted more of Why y'all think that?
Speaker 1: How much more have we been clocking? I like them,
Speaker 1: I want them back and forth. I want that's the
Speaker 1: whole reason we're here. No, it just seemed like it
Speaker 1: was giving. He was exhausted, and that means he might
Speaker 1: be just tired of his job.
Speaker 2: All right, So my hot take on that whole exchange
Speaker 2: that prompted him to walk off. He didn't walk off
Speaker 2: because he couldn't get a word in. He walked off
Speaker 2: because they were not allowing each other to actually speak.
Speaker 2: They're all just screaming over each other and at a
Speaker 2: certain point it becomes white noise. And Andy couldn't have
Speaker 2: a drop a moment because he couldn't pick anything out
Speaker 2: of it. And it was a fake I hate to
Speaker 2: say it. It was the most fakeus walk off I've
Speaker 2: ever seen, because yeah, and you're going to walk off,
Speaker 2: you'd be a you are a homosexual, walk the hell.
Speaker 1: Out, walk out, walk and make it a good one.
Speaker 1: In fact, push a bitch on your way out, like
Speaker 1: to RecA.
Speaker 2: Back in the day, Throw those cute cards on the ground,
Speaker 2: and walk out. You know, I guarantee you he comes back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he comes back. And when he comes back from that,
Speaker 2: they will be as quiet as a church master talk
Speaker 2: when they are talking.
Speaker 1: To exactly, you will speak when I tell you to
Speaker 1: get us talking, you know. But he kind of just
Speaker 1: like laughed it off immediately, and I was like, girl, no,
Speaker 1: you need to own it. Stand tin toes and then
Speaker 1: let me tell you this. If I leave, I take
Speaker 1: these cameras with me. They'll all shut up. They're all
Speaker 1: right then, Oh no, no, wait, daddy, Andy, don't take
Speaker 1: our cameras. Oh no, Brittany, the first one I just
Speaker 1: got here, No bring brick with camera? Is it this one?
Speaker 1: Is it? This one? Okay? And then looks to the left. Anyways,
Speaker 1: Meredith kind of just let it slip though, in all
Speaker 1: of that chitter chatter that this is why I don't
Speaker 1: want to shut up the girlies from the chitter chatter,
Speaker 1: Because Andy, why didn't you follow this through line? Meredith
Speaker 1: said that while her and self were separated at some
Speaker 1: point and I wrote down separated question mark question mark
Speaker 1: someone she dated. Oh, y'all were separated like that, Yes,
Speaker 1: y'all are real separated. Y'all weren't just me in the
Speaker 1: living room or in the basement, and like, you know,
Speaker 1: like old school parents, like black parents, you know who
Speaker 1: be separated. You know, y'all grandparents who been married for
Speaker 1: forty years. But y'all ain't never seen him in the
Speaker 1: same bed together. Yeah, I know that life. You're like,
Speaker 1: oh no, they meant separated to the point where they
Speaker 1: was dating other people and you all could have known
Speaker 1: that that felt really it feels wild and risky to me,
Speaker 1: did you? I mean we she kind of just said
Speaker 1: it and went about it because she it isn't what
Speaker 1: the girlies had this information and at some point wanted
Speaker 1: to use it. So Meredim said it very cavalierly, but
Speaker 1: I still wrote down we didn't know this publicly, no.
Speaker 2: No dig no it was. It was alluded to, but
Speaker 2: we never knew for a fact until last night. It
Speaker 2: because I mean, as soon as Heather says, you want
Speaker 2: to talk about what's on my phone and I was,
Speaker 2: I was like.
Speaker 1: Whoa, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: That just didn't weaponize that, Heather.
Speaker 1: That's also that that also is wild because the fact
Speaker 1: that you said, the fact that she wanted to weaponize that,
Speaker 1: the fact that Heather said, you know what time I
Speaker 1: was on my phone? You wanted to go ahead and
Speaker 1: do that. It's interesting to me because later on, Heather
Speaker 1: you say that like you don't want to record Meredith's
Speaker 1: crashing out on a plane because because you don't wanna like,
Speaker 1: you know, you're just trying to get home and you
Speaker 1: don't wanna you know, do too much and any of that.
Speaker 1: So you it's too far across as a line to
Speaker 1: record your castmate on a TV show who you say
Speaker 1: acts like this a lot, but no one ever sees you.
Speaker 1: It's too much to record her acting belligerent like you
Speaker 1: say she was, But it's not too much to hold
Speaker 1: footage or whatever proof receipts tomline spring shots, hostage of
Speaker 1: your same castmate's husband being out and about, or you
Speaker 1: being on a date with somebody while or old girl
Speaker 1: being on a date with your casting being on a
Speaker 1: date with someone while separated from a husband that you
Speaker 1: know the public knows nothing about. That's that's not too far.
Speaker 1: I just I just wanna, Okay, we're gonna strole back.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go back, We're gonna circle back, We're gonna
Speaker 1: stirle back. I just did write down, Yo, y'all really
Speaker 1: coming on Lisa. And this is not just because I'm
Speaker 1: a baby gorgeous fan, and it's just that Meredith is
Speaker 1: sitting right there and we spent in the fact that
Speaker 1: we spent two minutes on Lisa in the beginning where
Speaker 1: Meredith was gonna casually just nod her head and say
Speaker 1: they're talking about a guy that I dated while me
Speaker 1: and South were separated. That's all excuse who that's what
Speaker 1: come again.
Speaker 2: I just find it funny that they're that threatened by
Speaker 2: Lisa Barlow that they have to focus all their hatred
Speaker 2: on her.
Speaker 1: Right, Can we talk about that rock solid marriage that
Speaker 1: she said that she had. It was rock solid, rock salid,
Speaker 1: rock salid after the separation or before or during or
Speaker 1: now when was it? Inho wasn't in Ohio? Like was it? Okay?
Speaker 1: And again y'all mad at Lisa, But all y'all are
Speaker 1: on that bullshit because let me tell you the way
Speaker 1: the everybody was pop pong kettle all night the rest
Speaker 1: of this night between the Britney and everything. Okay, Mary's son,
Speaker 1: Mary's package comes up, and I think this is the
Speaker 1: first time we've seen a full Mary package. That Mary
Speaker 1: got to sit down and answer to a full time housewife,
Speaker 1: and I think she did a remarkable job. They start
Speaker 1: with the son, her son, Robert Junior. Robert Senior, Robert
Speaker 1: one of them, one of the Rogers Junior. He is
Speaker 1: currently incarcerated in the Utah jails. Not fun fact, but
Speaker 1: like coincidentally, I just finished the season of Sixty Days
Speaker 1: in the most recent seasons on Netflix, that is, it
Speaker 1: takes place in the Utah the same Utah correctional facilities.
Speaker 1: So if anybody is a sixty days in fan like I,
Speaker 1: you can see where Mary's son is being hill.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna check that out now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, let me tell you it's far as
Speaker 1: Joel's though. Of the ones, especially of sixty days ended,
Speaker 1: I've seen much better. However, I do worry for my
Speaker 1: girl Mary, because she's like she feels I not naively.
Speaker 1: I pray she is right and that this is the case,
Speaker 1: but she feels better knowing where her son is. She
Speaker 1: expresses that she feels good knowing that he's safe. I've
Speaker 1: heard that of mothers before, experiences of family members, you know.
Speaker 1: I've heard that same kind of rhetoric and that same verbiage. However,
Speaker 1: the not in staying clean I worry about because we
Speaker 1: all know that jail doesn't necessarily mean that you're going
Speaker 1: that you can't get stuff in and out. So I
Speaker 1: do worry about that, and I pray for his strength
Speaker 1: while he's in there, and that of his mama. And yeah,
Speaker 1: so she's marriage having a hard time her son. He
Speaker 1: had that wife. We all thought that was a crazy
Speaker 1: sentence to say. The three years ago when we first
Speaker 1: said it that he had a wife, and it's even
Speaker 1: crazier now, so it's not shocking to me that there
Speaker 1: are charges and things that are happening. I need y'all
Speaker 1: to not tase a young man for trespassing. That feels
Speaker 1: like a lot. Yeah, yeah, it just feels like we're
Speaker 1: towing a line purposely because she said that he's been
Speaker 1: arrested more than once for the same thing, So then
Speaker 1: why are you tasing him? Did he get more belligerent
Speaker 1: than something. I just want to know what's going on,
Speaker 1: and if that is the case, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. It just feels like a
Speaker 1: slippery slopery, you know what I mean? And I love
Speaker 1: that and these here American times, Okay, let's be careful.
Speaker 1: But then they get to, of course, this cult documentary
Speaker 1: thing they do a church package. I talked about this
Speaker 1: a little bit more at length with Elle Marisaki last week.
Speaker 1: Shout out to brief by L. But I want to
Speaker 1: reiterate that what I think Mary Mary I talked about it.
Speaker 1: I was so much more passionate and upset me and
Speaker 1: L were like ready to, like, you know, really beat
Speaker 1: a drum over this. Because it was giving racism. It
Speaker 1: was giving, And by racism, I don't mean like, oh,
Speaker 1: we hate Mary because she's no. Is that your lack
Speaker 1: of understanding and your commitment to misunderstanding her or not
Speaker 1: just accepting something as because I don't because it is
Speaker 1: not accessible to me or something that would affect that
Speaker 1: you know, impacts me in the same way. And it's
Speaker 1: not for me, it must not be good, or it
Speaker 1: must not be for others, or it must be something
Speaker 1: wrong with it because it is not something that I
Speaker 1: can access as well. That is entitlement and I don't
Speaker 1: like that. So to which I say, I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: my girl Mary handle it. And Mary said, you know,
Speaker 1: truth be told. Seems like the girlies are just not
Speaker 1: used to a Pentecostal church in Utah. Up, they're not
Speaker 1: used to the Black church experience in Utah or like
Speaker 1: at all. And you know what, that is exactly how
Speaker 1: I feel like it was summed how it should be
Speaker 1: summed up. That's what summed up me and ELL's conversation
Speaker 1: and other conversations that I have heard as well.
Speaker 2: Well. You and I had this conversation about the Pentecostal church.
Speaker 1: Yes, like this Mary's Church is not the fact that Mary.
Speaker 1: Every time since they came out, I remember thinking, what
Speaker 1: is that lady gonna wear? Mary?
Speaker 2: What is she going to?
Speaker 1: Its? Blah blah blah. And you know, we've been talking
Speaker 1: about it for a year. So the fact that people
Speaker 1: are still so committed to not connecting the dots and
Speaker 1: not understanding and not doing that work, the extra mental
Speaker 1: gymnastics of huh, is it just something I don't get.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not meant for me too. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but like I guess that's just too much like right,
Speaker 1: But truly, she's been wearing things that I'm like, Oh,
Speaker 1: that makes sense because Mary is in a topstill. If
Speaker 1: you or someone you know has ever been around a
Speaker 1: pentegostal person, and many many people have, of all races,
Speaker 1: there are plenty of them. You know, the girlies are
Speaker 1: not showing more than above the ankle, no, ma'am, no sir.
Speaker 1: You know the girlies are not just engaging with random
Speaker 1: men and all the things. No, ma'am, no, sir. You
Speaker 1: know that they live by rules like many religions do. Mormonism,
Speaker 1: what what are we talking about? Mark? What are you
Speaker 1: calling this Lady's Church of go.
Speaker 2: When we in Morttown, let me just tell you my
Speaker 2: next door neighbors was Pentecostal okay boom, And never, not
Speaker 2: once did they try to take advantage of us or
Speaker 2: recruit us or try to ask us for money. They
Speaker 2: were just like, yo, can you feed our dog when
Speaker 2: we're away? And we're like yeah, of course.
Speaker 1: We're like we got you, we got yes the way
Speaker 1: Mary is able to be here with us right now.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, though, I'm gonna I wrote something
Speaker 2: down because this is something that a lot of people
Speaker 2: might have missed because it was going so fast and furious.
Speaker 2: When Mary was taking care of Lisa.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh did she ever?
Speaker 2: Mary addressed everything. She talked about Cameron, she talked about
Speaker 2: her mother, she talked about her sister. Yes, and that
Speaker 2: was That was literally the entire crux of that documentary.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Mary, I think being honest and she really
Speaker 1: came to not show that she had nothing to hide.
Speaker 1: This is a matter of her faith. I just find
Speaker 1: it interesting and I just think it's funny. How y'all
Speaker 1: don't understand the Pentecostal church in Utah, where a soul
Speaker 1: church in religion controls your government. Thank you you cannot
Speaker 1: drink more than like watered vodka, vodka water and a
Speaker 1: lemon as Rihanna said, and a few other things I
Speaker 1: cannot mention, but you can't have them in Utah. But
Speaker 1: Mary's something her church. You don't get. Her church feels
Speaker 1: like a cult. Her church feels like a cult. This
Speaker 1: is the first documentary of seeing the Mary's Church. Let's count.
Speaker 1: I can tell you my favorite top three Mormon or
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City or Utah documentaries. I got plenty to
Speaker 1: choose from. Thank you, Honny. Some good ones too, Keep
Speaker 1: Sweet and obab bitch. Let me tell you a rewatcher.
Speaker 1: You can rewatch that one.
Speaker 2: I've watched that one. Remember. And this is something a
Speaker 2: lot of people don't understand the credibility of this production
Speaker 2: team that put this stuff together. This is the same
Speaker 2: people that did The House of Hammer and The Queen
Speaker 2: of meth Okay. Both were hit pieces designed them align
Speaker 2: people's characters. Because that's what these two producers put forward.
Speaker 2: And the fact that content creators that should know better
Speaker 2: because they cover Bravo all the time, they still jumped
Speaker 2: into this And I'm like, I know you f the Lion.
Speaker 1: They wanted their Britney moment they just did. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: and that's just the case.
Speaker 2: What little sellouts. I don't care what sellouts.
Speaker 1: I ain't got time for them, absolute sellouts, and there's
Speaker 1: no space and time for them, because it's not just
Speaker 1: because I like Mary. In fact, there are moments that
Speaker 1: I have not liked Mary, and I don't have to
Speaker 1: always even agree with Mary. In fact, again, like I said,
Speaker 1: I have been very open and honest with my relationship
Speaker 1: with my former church and life in the church. I
Speaker 1: was raised in this kind of very rigid and strict
Speaker 1: religious black church environment, and it was huge. It was
Speaker 1: my world. It was all consuming. I mean, you think
Speaker 1: Mary's church is a call I'm talking like it was
Speaker 1: such a big church, it would not. You wouldn't think
Speaker 1: that it was because it's that big. It's a megachurch
Speaker 1: and we're all living like that. If I told y'all
Speaker 1: some of the things that I wasn't allowed to do,
Speaker 1: listen to songs I never heard, and tell things I
Speaker 1: never didn't tell, not going to movies, please, you would
Speaker 1: think that I was also in that same thing. And
Speaker 1: while I might have called it that or what I
Speaker 1: would have felt and how I've processed it, in my
Speaker 1: life now doesn't negate one how my parents even got
Speaker 1: into it. They were looking for something, and it's not
Speaker 1: like they were found at a party like how they
Speaker 1: talk about it the scientologist, you know, they say, hey,
Speaker 1: do you want to come to a get together? No,
Speaker 1: I mean, like fully, freely and willingly on their own.
Speaker 1: But because of the people at the church or at
Speaker 1: the space, the way they did love on them, pray
Speaker 1: for them, help them, support them, is what made them
Speaker 1: feel indebted to this specific place to the point of
Speaker 1: pretty much giving all of their life savings at some point,
Speaker 1: you know, and investing all their time, energy and attention
Speaker 1: into this one place for all of my life, to
Speaker 1: the point where I had no friends outside of it,
Speaker 1: and nobody outside of it, no activities outside of it.
Speaker 1: But it's what it does for the people I understand though,
Speaker 1: the purpose that also it served in my parents' life
Speaker 1: and in my life growing up. Like honestly, if I
Speaker 1: didn't have some fallouts at some point, I'd probably still
Speaker 1: be there and maybe have some separation from some things.
Speaker 1: But some people that I love very dearly still are
Speaker 1: deeply involved in it. Some of the longest connections and
Speaker 1: foundations that I've ever had and the way I live
Speaker 1: my life. The foundations come from my upbringing in that church.
Speaker 1: And still my church don't control the government and how
Speaker 1: much I can drink and if I go to a restaurant,
Speaker 1: what I can do. I really needs you to put
Speaker 1: some respect on it, because it's just giving. You don't
Speaker 1: want to understand because they're very fast or no, actually
Speaker 1: I'm just one. I'm going to call it racism because
Speaker 1: the fascination or the lack of understanding and fascination with
Speaker 1: the Mormon Church turns into Salt Lake City housewives, turns
Speaker 1: into secret lives are normalized, turns into mom top, it
Speaker 1: turns into things that we are so interested in that
Speaker 1: we give our viewership and our time and our money
Speaker 1: and attention to it. Willfully, gleefully, I'm having a great time.
Speaker 1: But then let's also hold space for oh, I don't
Speaker 1: understand this thing on the right. Let me also look
Speaker 1: into that and figure that out or give it space
Speaker 1: to breathe understand. Maybe you get it, maybe you don't.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's for you, maybe it's not. But you explore
Speaker 1: and have fun over here on Salt Lake City. But
Speaker 1: Mary is like, we gotta take it down because we
Speaker 1: don't get it. If that's what I'm saying. So if
Speaker 1: you got that curiosity on religions and things that you
Speaker 1: don't understand, if you can find it fun an interesting
Speaker 1: quote unquote to peek into behind the curtain in the
Speaker 1: Mormon world. You could do the same thing with Mathel Mary.
Speaker 1: It's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: All you have to do is either go online and
Speaker 2: type in Pentecostal church Wikipedia and read what it is,
Speaker 2: or how about this, ask someone that is one and
Speaker 2: maybe they can educate you. Because I'll be honest, I
Speaker 2: have seen integrated Pentecostal churches. I have seen non integrated
Speaker 2: pentecost The majority of it is an African American. It
Speaker 2: is what it is. It is what it is, and
Speaker 2: I understand in Utah that is a rare thing. Yes,
Speaker 2: and there ain't there. As my sister who is black said,
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of metaltonin out there.
Speaker 1: No, there's not. And I just want to make sure
Speaker 1: that you know if you're finding it in your heart
Speaker 1: or somewhere to be like. But I just don't understand
Speaker 1: why it's so strict and rigid and rigidity and all
Speaker 1: these things that feels like a cult or whatever. And
Speaker 1: you're thinking about about that about a black church like
Speaker 1: the Pentecostal Church, let me remind you the roots of
Speaker 1: them are in slavery. And whose fault was that?
Speaker 2: I know that's right.
Speaker 1: So if it's getting cult, you're not wrong.
Speaker 2: Who not forget that, Let's not forget that. The two
Speaker 2: people that did make the documentary were also you know,
Speaker 2: very The whole thing just reached the racism, it really did.
Speaker 2: It was so emploited, It was so exploited.
Speaker 1: It was so exploitive because I don't know, it really
Speaker 1: did hurt my heart because like I think that what
Speaker 1: people don't understand is that the role that Mary plays,
Speaker 1: yes in the Black Church, we do got to spend
Speaker 1: the problem. I'm not going to tell you that we're
Speaker 1: not imperfect. Humans are imperfect. That's kind of the whole idea,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, I know plenty of
Speaker 1: the plasters that were or jackets in the pulpit while
Speaker 1: we are having a hard time buying as it's a thing,
Speaker 1: it happens. But also I know that my nana set
Speaker 1: on many a committee on her Baptist church, her Southern
Speaker 1: Baptist Church, trying to figure out what they're gonna get
Speaker 1: the pastor for Christmas, because they all have had growth
Speaker 1: and change because he's met their knees, he's been there
Speaker 1: for them, he's been a counsel my parents. And this
Speaker 1: is really this is personal. But I feel because it's Mary.
Speaker 1: I think this is why it is so important, because
Speaker 1: she is the quote unquote mother of her church. And
Speaker 1: what that means like to these people like to desecrate.
Speaker 1: What this is to people is an act of racism.
Speaker 1: It is a macro aggression to not get it to
Speaker 1: the point of trying to tear it down. So that's
Speaker 1: why I share this very quickly and then we'll get
Speaker 1: back to Salt Lake City. But like my parents, like
Speaker 1: when they were pregnant with me, my mom had what
Speaker 1: she did not know to be a ton of fibroids,
Speaker 1: like she had a ton, and so she they were
Speaker 1: like her doctor full on told her not to get
Speaker 1: baby furniture because I wasn't gonna make it. And my
Speaker 1: dad straight up told my mom, we're not and that doctor,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna believe that report. They had just joined
Speaker 1: my original church like a year maybe or so ago
Speaker 1: before that, they had just joined it as a newly
Speaker 1: married couple. They joined this church. They went to the
Speaker 1: pastor one day after a Megga church, I mean like
Speaker 1: ten thousand people and grew since then, but ten thousand
Speaker 1: people at the time. They went to the pastor after
Speaker 1: Bible study one night and literally told him just like
Speaker 1: what they were dealing with as a young couple who
Speaker 1: had been waiting for a while to get pregnant and
Speaker 1: have this baby. I came two years after marriage and trying,
Speaker 1: and they were like, he's said she's not gonna make it,
Speaker 1: and we don't believe that. And that pastor, with a
Speaker 1: full pulpit of people still after church and lots of
Speaker 1: people behind, had like the ushers like my mom and
Speaker 1: my dad to his office with his wife, the mother
Speaker 1: of the church, and they both like held my parents
Speaker 1: and prayed like the entire night for them, and I
Speaker 1: am here for my parents. That was enough for them
Speaker 1: to feel seen and heard and loved and supported, And
Speaker 1: me being here, they were like, miracle, baby, act of God.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about. I will dedicate twenty three
Speaker 1: years of my life to this church, which is how
Speaker 1: long they were pretty much there until you know, man
Speaker 1: came into play. Not the church or the religion changed.
Speaker 1: It was the people that made it unbearable to continue
Speaker 1: to go later on. It was not the culture or
Speaker 1: what it was that we believed in that change. But
Speaker 1: like the mother of the church, like that is such
Speaker 1: a sacred role, not sacred in like they believe that
Speaker 1: your God, excuse me, don't do that to me, because
Speaker 1: we could talk about the Tholicism all day. I did
Speaker 1: study religions. Don't talk to me about that, so please,
Speaker 1: But it is the idea that like Mary provides a
Speaker 1: sense of She is a beacon of what hope is
Speaker 1: to a lot of people in their church who this
Speaker 1: is something that they look forward to. This is something
Speaker 1: for them, for their soul, for the way they make
Speaker 1: that keeps them going, like my parents did. My mom
Speaker 1: forever holds the woman of the church, the wife of
Speaker 1: our original pastor, in her heart. Forever. She has always
Speaker 1: held her in her highest regard because she they've also
Speaker 1: always treated them like they did that special thing that
Speaker 1: they've never forgotten that and that role is so special.
Speaker 1: So to try to tear that down, like I look
Speaker 1: at the thumbnail. I share this because I look at
Speaker 1: the thumbnail on Hulu of the documentary, and it is
Speaker 1: so dark to me, and it reminds me of what
Speaker 1: they did to Oj and like, you know, famously you
Speaker 1: studied journalism, like what they did to Oj during the
Speaker 1: Times trial or during the trials the Times articles made
Speaker 1: him so much darker and gave this dark like overshadow
Speaker 1: and overlay of edit to give off this evil component,
Speaker 1: which is was like, it's just so crazy, and was like,
Speaker 1: what are we talking about? The call of the house?
Speaker 1: What are we talking about? And how do you not
Speaker 1: see that as an act as racism? I'm sorry, how
Speaker 1: do you not see that? Well?
Speaker 2: How do we not see the thievery of all the
Speaker 2: content creators properties that they took and used illegally? But
Speaker 2: we're not even going to talk about that.
Speaker 1: I did see the girls complaining online.
Speaker 2: They were like.
Speaker 1: Someone was like you at least could have added me, bitch.
Speaker 1: They were like, didn't even put your tag in it.
Speaker 2: Then then mess their numbers up and they had like
Speaker 2: all these followers. They didn't having them followers.
Speaker 1: And they were like, no, I'm not you catfish me
Speaker 1: myself with me not they what they do what they
Speaker 1: hit the angel edit on the followers. They hit them
Speaker 1: with the Angel edit. You're like, not, that's my account,
Speaker 1: but is that really my account? And that's all that
Speaker 1: The angel pictures are over there on Potmac. I'm just thinking.
Speaker 2: Going through it right now.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, okay, we're back. We're back, We're back. Okay.
Speaker 1: Mary and Brittany get to arguing. So good, that was
Speaker 1: pray z.
Speaker 2: It was so good.
Speaker 1: So you agree Mary is me? I mean, Mary agrees
Speaker 1: that Marry is me. Mary said, yeah, you're right. You
Speaker 1: don't like you because you say stupid things, and I
Speaker 1: don't like you say it's stupid stuff. So Brittany and
Speaker 1: Mary get to arguing, and Brittany really tried to make
Speaker 1: herself make sense, but Mary just really was clopped in.
Speaker 1: She's clear headed today, girls, She's got it all here.
Speaker 1: She was ready for my girl. She was like, no,
Speaker 1: I react to you. That's the thing. I react to
Speaker 1: you saying stupid stuff. And and yes it is it
Speaker 1: probably mean and like and.
Speaker 2: When she called her godless, that was it. Mary, ain't
Speaker 2: gonna mess with you after that. You called her godless?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And she had to apologize fifteen times then be like,
Speaker 1: but can I get a point? Yeah? No, okay, and
Speaker 1: maybe not.
Speaker 2: Girl took it took Mary four years to forgive wakeney
Speaker 2: and move on. It's gonna take a minute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, next lifetime. You better hope it's real. For your sake, girl,
Speaker 1: you better hope that heaven is real. And if you
Speaker 1: and Mary make it up there, you better hold Mary
Speaker 1: that lost that grudge by the nd. You better hold
Speaker 1: Mary making it through the pearly gates than cleared her
Speaker 1: heart of that grudge for you, because Mary gonna hold it.
Speaker 1: How dare you? She said, how dare you? She like
Speaker 1: I take the souls and the spirits and like the
Speaker 1: like the spiritual welfare of the members of my congregation
Speaker 1: very seriously?
Speaker 2: How dare you?
Speaker 1: You may as well call Mary anything else, But you
Speaker 1: could have called her booboo, the fool and everything and
Speaker 1: everything else, and before that.
Speaker 2: She'd have been okay with that, She could have cared less.
Speaker 2: But you can't talk about her farting, and you can't
Speaker 2: talk about and you can't talk about her being a
Speaker 2: godless woman because she's not.
Speaker 1: No, you better not okay. She take it very seriously.
Speaker 1: And after that, in fact, speaking of Mary, then to
Speaker 1: Lisa the church and the only person I'm ever gonna
Speaker 1: be okay, We'll giving Lisa some business is men. Honestly,
Speaker 1: that's the only person I feel like it has a
Speaker 1: leg to stand on it. And because my big part
Speaker 1: of it is that one. Mary funny as hell. And
Speaker 1: that's just the fact. I love the way Mary can
Speaker 1: read somebody down. I really do. Mary got drag queen energy,
Speaker 1: like big drag point energy, like she can read you down.
Speaker 1: Mary took Lisa to church. The only person I've ever
Speaker 1: seen to get Lisa quiet is Mary Cosby. That's the
Speaker 1: only worthy opponent.
Speaker 2: Lisa was short circuiting, her eyes flaking a mile.
Speaker 1: She was not doing well. She was a y'all. Mark
Speaker 1: was literally doing the eyes like Lisa was like, she
Speaker 1: had to reset, recalibrate. We forgot. We're not engaging. We're
Speaker 1: not engaged. You can tell that they gave themselves a
Speaker 1: pep talk her emeritis beforehand.
Speaker 2: How did they do?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, oh my god. The performances everybody was abound.
Speaker 1: But Mary definitely did take Lisa to the church and listen, Lisa.
Speaker 1: She was right. When when Lisa didn't know or seemed
Speaker 1: to not know that Mary took her side, she was
Speaker 1: like she probably don't even know. I cackled. I died
Speaker 1: because Lisa did sure as hell not know.
Speaker 2: No, the best part of the whole thing, she goes,
Speaker 2: didn't you tell Meredith that she was a whore who screwed?
Speaker 2: Happened to you? Spell I was deceased?
Speaker 1: Yes, Mary really clocked in. I was like, Mary reminds
Speaker 1: me of like how why I like the secret lives
Speaker 1: of Mormon wives, girlies and that when they because you
Speaker 1: know that they are like pretty much sober and just
Speaker 1: that clocked, like they're too sober, almost y'all. So like
Speaker 1: you've ever been like so sober that you peep everything
Speaker 1: too many things, everything has access to your nervous system
Speaker 1: because there is nothing dalling a sense anywhere like so
Speaker 1: like Taylor, Frankie, Paul and Mary Cosby are clocking everything
Speaker 1: you bitches do at all times. And they got they
Speaker 1: gotta answer ready for that ass the receipts, the rememory,
Speaker 1: the rememory.
Speaker 2: I mean Lisa just sat there, her spanks was hanging
Speaker 2: out the dress.
Speaker 1: Seriously, I mean Mary was like, she don't even know.
Speaker 1: They don't really got me, y'all. And the girls cackled
Speaker 1: and I even had to cackle with them. Girl, I
Speaker 1: couldn't help myself. I did. Okay, we finally get to
Speaker 1: the non factor that is this plane ride and oh
Speaker 1: and he kind of confirms that there's no footage. And
Speaker 1: this is why I think this is like another tick
Speaker 1: in the bucket. We're never gonna get a full inswer.
Speaker 1: We're more so gonna have buckets of and it's gonna
Speaker 1: vary on fullness of whether or not this footage or
Speaker 1: situation scenario did happen, didn't happen, or didn't happen the
Speaker 1: way that it is being said. There's somewhere in the
Speaker 1: middle between Heather saying Meredith was a crash out and
Speaker 1: needed to be injected, tranquilized and rolled out and Meredith
Speaker 1: saying they never spoke and she slept the whole time, Like,
Speaker 1: there's somewhere in the middle. I guess which I'm sure
Speaker 1: y'all can drop a little comment if you're like mm hmm,
Speaker 1: drop a nod, a little snowflake, if it's you, you wonder,
Speaker 1: because they if there was some kind of altercation, a
Speaker 1: producer would have made They're way up there, because if
Speaker 1: the girls could walk up and down the aisles as
Speaker 1: they're alleging that they did. Someone pointed this out to
Speaker 1: me on Instagram. If the girls were like, well, they're
Speaker 1: saying that Brittany got up to go to the bathroom
Speaker 1: and such and such and then someone came to tell
Speaker 1: them when to put their seatbults on. That means it
Speaker 1: at some point that sign was off. So if there
Speaker 1: was a commotion happening up front of producer would have
Speaker 1: been up on that ass. I feel.
Speaker 2: Get your ask the first class now.
Speaker 1: Why you think they wouldn't have just wanted a little
Speaker 1: who will check them?
Speaker 2: Boo m please? Okay, this is why why Whitney.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes Whitney, And I want to say, what did
Speaker 1: you think of Heather's answer when they asked why no
Speaker 1: one got their phones out to record? Because Andy seemed
Speaker 1: low key pissed too. He was like, so I did
Speaker 1: no one because it's given no one realizes they have
Speaker 1: a job. First of all, you want my dime, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna get to clocking in better?
Speaker 2: You better stay on that clock and see better.
Speaker 1: Get to what, bitch, where are we even happening? He says?
Speaker 1: She say, where's the footage?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry? But if if what's your name from Megan
Speaker 2: from Orange County can take out her celphone and record
Speaker 2: them chicks in the sprinter van in Ireland. You can,
Speaker 2: darn well, you can darnwll take your phone off airplane
Speaker 2: mode and start recording.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, sure, Brittany, one I do want okay, I
Speaker 1: understand it. It was not a good idea. It didn't
Speaker 1: go for you well when you recorded Meredith the last time, however, one,
Speaker 1: I don't think you remembered that. I don't unt I
Speaker 1: think you would have thought differently in that moment if
Speaker 1: that was really happening to you that bad. I think
Speaker 1: what happened was there were moments, these escalated moments happened
Speaker 1: over ours, several hours, Like I mean, like one at
Speaker 1: a time, say, I'm talking loudly to Lisa about this
Speaker 1: you know, horror in front of me and this pick
Speaker 1: me who doesn't want to know anything, and then like
Speaker 1: an hour later she gets it to go to the
Speaker 1: bathroom in do you know, shakes that chair a little bit,
Speaker 1: pulls a little bit of extension or something, and she
Speaker 1: goes how and you know, Brittany, she's dramatic. She an actress. Okay,
Speaker 1: she starred next to the great story spelling, don't you know. Okay,
Speaker 1: so she's like my hair, you know, she's given the
Speaker 1: real dramatic my hair, you know. So I think that's
Speaker 1: what we have going on there over the course of hours.
Speaker 1: I don't think this all happened four hours of hours
Speaker 1: of Heather's like for six hours you were yelling and
Speaker 1: screaming and people had to come and flood into it
Speaker 1: at the check and we were, okay, no baby, it's
Speaker 1: giving you. Oh look distressed, And she had to check,
Speaker 1: y'all good, you need some seltzer? Do you need a
Speaker 1: or a pretzel.
Speaker 2: Something to soak up that alcohol you drank in that airport, right?
Speaker 1: And I think that if you were also a little
Speaker 1: bit on the tipsy side you it was probably also
Speaker 1: a heightened nervous system for you too, Girly, you're in
Speaker 1: the air Mary's is loud, probably she's what New York.
Speaker 1: She's loud. She's loud when she's drunk, she's loud when
Speaker 1: she's not.
Speaker 2: I believe Mary saying it went on.
Speaker 1: I do think it went on. I think she was unrelenting.
Speaker 1: I think she went to the bathroom and came back
Speaker 1: and had more to say. She done thought about it
Speaker 1: as she was rubber dubb it in that tiny sink.
Speaker 2: She's not I thought about it. Look, you know she
Speaker 2: came down that aisle and saw that woman sitting in
Speaker 2: that seat. You know, she got pissed all over.
Speaker 1: Yes she did. She sat down next to her girl Lisa,
Speaker 1: and walk her up and said, girl, ladysah, you know
Speaker 1: that girl, she just had the nerve to not look
Speaker 1: at me. Can you believe it? She's gonna accuse my
Speaker 1: husband of she can try to destroy my family and
Speaker 1: I and not even look me in the eye. A coward.
Speaker 1: That's what's wrong with cowards today. That's what she did,
Speaker 1: and that's all that happened.
Speaker 2: Just think, I just love that Andy really tried to
Speaker 2: get it out of Meredith that she pulled her hair.
Speaker 1: She was like mm mmm mm hmmm, and they were like,
Speaker 1: don't you didn't you? But see the thing is every
Speaker 1: time that she denied it, the girls then de escalated
Speaker 1: to what probably actually more likely happened, where they were like,
Speaker 1: but you didn't you say that there was a chance
Speaker 1: that you might have bumped into her chairs you were
Speaker 1: getting up to go to the bathroom, and that you
Speaker 1: had a little bit of her hair in it. I'm like,
Speaker 1: so you're you're admitting that she admitted to something, but
Speaker 1: definitely not what you're saying, nor like what could have happened,
Speaker 1: not that she yanked her hair, because there's an air
Speaker 1: Marshall want a plane, ain't there?
Speaker 2: There's always one?
Speaker 1: So then why if this lady was not throwing down
Speaker 1: with Brittany in the first class? What a a marshall
Speaker 1: put some zip ties on that loud mouth and be
Speaker 1: let girl?
Speaker 2: I would have lived for that all year long.
Speaker 1: Thank you me too. Not to mention, y'all are not
Speaker 1: that unnoticeable, like people.
Speaker 2: Know who you are.
Speaker 1: You to believe that you were that beligerent and doing
Speaker 1: that much and no one recorded it because they knew
Speaker 1: who you were?
Speaker 2: Girl?
Speaker 1: Hearing you and being like, damn, what's that? The house
Speaker 1: eves are up there? What was going on?
Speaker 2: Promise you there's footage, It just hasn't come out yet.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm ready, I'm ready. Did you believe Heather? I
Speaker 1: want to ask you before we move on? Did you
Speaker 1: believe Heather when she said, well, we were just so
Speaker 1: focused on getting home and she's done this before, so
Speaker 1: we didn't think to record it.
Speaker 2: I don't believe a word she says anymore. Her credibility
Speaker 2: is so shot with me at this point, done with her.
Speaker 2: I think it's time for Heather to be put on Paul's.
Speaker 1: Speaking of done, Heather is done with her friendship with
Speaker 1: Merritith completely.
Speaker 2: She says that man.
Speaker 1: Done done from this moment forward, and then Mark, you know,
Speaker 1: she threatens her. She says, buckle up, it's not going
Speaker 1: to be a fun ride.
Speaker 2: Oh shut up, shut up, so.
Speaker 1: Shut up, okay, well, buckle up.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. This is the same woman that for two
Speaker 2: years straight lied actively lie got a lot of people
Speaker 2: in trouble just for the sake of the fact that
Speaker 2: she couldn't admit that she was the punching bag for
Speaker 2: Jen No, no, slowly, not go right to hell.
Speaker 1: Go right to hell truly. Yeah, then we're done with
Speaker 1: Meredith and we're done with Heather yet again. Heather, it's
Speaker 1: really mad at somebody, and it takes up a lot
Speaker 1: of time and we're still not talking about anything that
Speaker 1: has to do with her.
Speaker 2: Just want to This is Heather's first fall out with Meredith, really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she said it's gonna be it. She's done, done, done, But.
Speaker 2: She says it twice, apparently because she told Tam or
Speaker 2: Judge she said it to her twice.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, oh.
Speaker 2: We're not done. We're not done. There's more coming between them,
Speaker 2: apparently in the third part.
Speaker 1: Oh, I cannot wait, Brittany.
Speaker 2: Okay, we gotta be careful with this one.
Speaker 1: Okay, We're Here's why I think we're going to be fine,
Speaker 1: because I think that what's happening here are is that
Speaker 1: we as a or them as a cast of characters
Speaker 1: of people, believe that we as an audience can't walk in,
Speaker 1: chew gum and hold hands with each other. Some things
Speaker 1: are happening here. Brittany and Meredith never gonna get along.
Speaker 1: That's a figoty. That's a fact.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: What is also happening here is I don't even remember
Speaker 1: what it was that Britney was about to say or
Speaker 1: do or bring up, more so about Meredith, because the thing,
Speaker 1: the extra evidence that she had of Seth being out
Speaker 1: and about or whatever, seemed like kind of a flop
Speaker 1: that she alluded to. And watch what Happens live. She
Speaker 1: gets to the reunion and is now like, it's just
Speaker 1: that Jared told me that Seth told him that I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: so Jared likes to teaster pot got it? Okay, we
Speaker 1: knew that, y'all both want to be on TV. That's
Speaker 1: very clear.
Speaker 2: That's spread.
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything clear of them in my life,
Speaker 1: like clarity. Okay, so it's given that. And then we
Speaker 1: see that Britney is going to expose the Seth thing.
Speaker 1: But Meredith call Seth and he's like, I have no
Speaker 1: other girlfriends. I'm infatuated. Great word, He's totally infatuated with Meredith.
Speaker 1: Anyone who can't see that, which is us? We can't
Speaker 1: see it. I'm not saying this is not true. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, don't tell me, don't challenge me that we
Speaker 1: can't see it, because we can.
Speaker 2: I you fled that weekend, then palm springs quicker than
Speaker 2: the tax man can issue a rebate check?
Speaker 1: Can I tell you my You know, that's my favorite
Speaker 1: point to make. Mark, you know, it's my favorite point
Speaker 1: to make, because why would you leave a paid vacation
Speaker 1: with your rock solid married wife and apparently you were
Speaker 1: at one point separating and seeing other what?
Speaker 2: Definitely?
Speaker 1: Okay, girl? Any who? Any who? They Brittany is about
Speaker 1: to make some kind of revelation for over Meredith. However,
Speaker 1: Meredith so quickly pulls the uno reverse that she was
Speaker 1: just waiting to throw this at the right most perfect moment,
Speaker 1: and it just so happens that it has arrived. Two
Speaker 1: things are true. When Maretha's backed into a corner, she
Speaker 1: will attack back. Nope, she does not lie, though her
Speaker 1: attacks come with facts. Yep, and that is why we
Speaker 1: can do both things. She did weaponize this very damning
Speaker 1: true information of Brittany being at the very least an ignorant,
Speaker 1: naive asshole. You can't want to be same as this
Speaker 1: bad and not do your due diligence, my love, thank you.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense. It means you're irresponsible. If a
Speaker 1: man comes to me and says, hey, I'm getting a
Speaker 1: ton of bad reviews, can you help me out? My
Speaker 1: first question is gonna be why are you getting bad reviews?
Speaker 2: Didn't you read some of the bad reviews and see
Speaker 2: what the bad reviews are? What were you more like?
Speaker 1: Shouldn't you read the bad reviews? Do you not want
Speaker 1: to be? Gotcha to you? Stupid girl?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh.
Speaker 1: That really pissed me off. Brendany's irresponsible, She's ignorant, She's stupid.
Speaker 1: If you don't want to be labeled in anti semi,
Speaker 1: don't fight for or defend or write or write a
Speaker 1: great review for someone who is anti Semitic. That is
Speaker 1: something as much as the due diligence. And then to
Speaker 1: also then blame meherative, which is a boule move, and
Speaker 1: say that you're just as guilty as as I sent
Speaker 1: my as I am. That was so bold and also
Speaker 1: a backfire because it gave Meredith the exact ammunition she
Speaker 1: needed to immediately be like, exactly, I've had him in
Speaker 1: my home, which is true, but she was like, thank
Speaker 1: you for laboring my home.
Speaker 2: Point that was chilling to me when I realized that
Speaker 2: this man had been in a Jewish person's home.
Speaker 1: That is crazy. So for Brittany to say to like,
Speaker 1: then try to blame Meredith, I was like, girl, this
Speaker 1: one proves how ignorant you are because those two things
Speaker 1: do not correlate. Nope, correlation causation not the same thing.
Speaker 1: To talk about it all the time. Two That also
Speaker 1: just went ahead and fueled the fire of blazing up
Speaker 1: her point. Maga wasn't crying, but she was like, I'm
Speaker 1: about to be she couldn't cry though, because she was
Speaker 1: I know, y'all are like she was crying, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: she almost couldn't brought and she was like.
Speaker 2: Yo, she she was.
Speaker 1: Like, I cannot believe she is really walking into this trunck.
Speaker 1: You really set yourself up. Look, Brittany, you set yourself
Speaker 1: up to look like.
Speaker 2: The greatest look she she wanted the attentions, She wore
Speaker 2: the greatest you as the reunion.
Speaker 1: Hello, you wanted the attention. You should have looked this
Speaker 1: man up. I don't understand because my first thought because
Speaker 1: people are antisemitic, especially right now. It is a rising
Speaker 1: thing because people are racist, because people are all kinds
Speaker 1: of bullshitting right now. If someone comes to me and
Speaker 1: says I'm getting a ton of bad reviews and all
Speaker 1: I got was free nails from them, first, I'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: why are you getting bad reviews? I'm like, God, I've
Speaker 1: had great service, I know nothing else. Oh. I would
Speaker 1: want to know what their answer was that told you
Speaker 1: the person that they are, and I would go look
Speaker 1: for myself no matter what you did, neither of those things.
Speaker 2: Well, so I don't want to hear it. Well, I
Speaker 2: did my due diligence and went online after this happened,
Speaker 2: and I read up on it and it was a
Speaker 2: big deal of is even on the news. Now, I understand.
Speaker 1: That's what Meredith said, and that's scary as hell.
Speaker 2: Well, I understand that, you know, Brittany doesn't watch the
Speaker 2: news much less be able to spell it. But the
Speaker 2: fact of the matter is, at least go on the
Speaker 2: website and read the reviews before you drop one.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, that's all. That's such a simple
Speaker 1: thing to do. I would do that, first of all.
Speaker 1: I would have done that before I even let this
Speaker 1: man in my house. It's just a free manicure. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I gotta know who I'm talking to because that's just
Speaker 1: the way of like life. That's a smart thing to
Speaker 1: do to me, But it's.
Speaker 2: Just chills me to the bone that man was up
Speaker 2: in her house.
Speaker 1: I felt awful for Meredith because that's scary as hell,
Speaker 1: and I think that it's But I also think that
Speaker 1: it is both relevant. While it is true that Brittany
Speaker 1: may not have acted as an anti Semitic person or
Speaker 1: exhibited any anti Semitic behavior, or earned the title as
Speaker 1: being labeled in anti semi, that's what Andy is asking Meredith.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's questioning her experience. I hope not.
Speaker 1: I really hope not. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I saw his face. I saw his space. His face
Speaker 2: was stunn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's upsetting because it's upsetting and it's kind of scary, like,
Speaker 1: but I do wonder if, like maybe she if Brittany,
Speaker 1: even though she has not exhibited me of that behavior,
Speaker 1: it is enough that you did not do your due
Speaker 1: diligence and not enough that you've only apologized for it before,
Speaker 1: because in this moment now you're still trying to also
Speaker 1: share responsibility and blame with Meredith. And that goes to
Speaker 1: show that that apology probably is now Nolan void. Every
Speaker 1: time you do that, it restarts.
Speaker 2: Well, she means, whoever works, whoever is Britney's man when
Speaker 2: team needs to fire them all, they are not on
Speaker 2: her side.
Speaker 1: No, they're not doing a very good job. They're they're
Speaker 1: really not. Uh And then yeah, so Brittany is crying now,
Speaker 1: and I will say, oh, no, I did write down
Speaker 1: l O l Q the white woman tears question mark,
Speaker 1: question mark, question mark, like why the white crime is
Speaker 1: usually my favorite but this is not good, Brittany, Like, girl,
Speaker 1: why are you crying? Because you know, I love a
Speaker 1: New York housewife, a white girl, white girl crime. It's great.
Speaker 2: I love the white white it's you, it's your recreational
Speaker 2: it's your favorite recreational sport.
Speaker 1: It is it's amazing. If it's the Olympics, I respect
Speaker 1: them all. But that's like, yeah, but this is uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: It brings me back to the whole, you know, black
Speaker 1: Shabbat thing, and I don't like, Oh, I don't like
Speaker 1: those feelings. Girl, Brittany, you crying. I shouldn't be focusing
Speaker 1: on you and you walking away. In fact, I'm actually
Speaker 1: kind of mad that my girl Mayor doesn't get her
Speaker 1: walk off moment because she deserves it.
Speaker 2: She's a victim, and well Britney stole that from her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not fair. It's hard to have. She actually
Speaker 1: deserves to be able to leave the space.
Speaker 2: But when she came back, she she kind of chilled
Speaker 2: me to the bone when she came back.
Speaker 1: Did because of course she is. What she's not gonna
Speaker 1: do is miss a camera opportivity.
Speaker 2: I mean, the tears was just gone. It was fake
Speaker 2: tears were gone.
Speaker 1: So quickly. I was just like, damn, Like Meredith's tears
Speaker 1: were only slow because I feelings she had a little
Speaker 1: bit of something done beforehand, like to be her very best.
Speaker 1: I just noticed that her skin is very tight and
Speaker 1: plump and boards and I was like, oh no, where
Speaker 1: she normally would be crying, she's a little tight.
Speaker 2: Look. Look, look the ducks are closed right now. They'll
Speaker 2: open up in a couple more weeks.
Speaker 1: Yes, And I cannot wait. I cannot wait for it.
Speaker 1: I don't believe Brittany is exhibiting anti Semitic behavior from
Speaker 1: what we can see. I am curious to how much,
Speaker 1: but also Meredith being like ifl targeted from day one. However,
Speaker 1: I do agree with Andy. Is it because you are
Speaker 1: Jewish that you feel Brittany has been targeting you or
Speaker 1: just because she been targeting you? Because I think you know,
Speaker 1: she just been targeting you because y'all don't like each other,
Speaker 1: and it just so happens that she's a dits who
Speaker 1: supports an anti Semite.
Speaker 2: It was the perfect storm.
Speaker 1: It was the perfect storm, and Brittany walked her as
Speaker 1: no umbrella, right into it, right into it, were right
Speaker 1: into I said, all, my girl is drenched in her
Speaker 1: own bullshit. This is crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh and you just saw Lisa sitting there like this.
Speaker 1: Ya in her head? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's all you
Speaker 1: can do. That's all you can do. But like Brittany,
Speaker 1: people wouldn't label you anything if you just did some research. Girl,
Speaker 1: it's so simple. Stop chasing the man and don't want
Speaker 1: you and just read anything. At the very least read
Speaker 1: the headlines enough to know that anti Semitism is so
Speaker 1: on the rise. You probably want to make sure double triple,
Speaker 1: quadruple check, my love. It's not that hard yop. Like
Speaker 1: any before you have anybody in your home, you should
Speaker 1: google them.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm surprised Meredith didn't.
Speaker 1: Oh that's really crazy. I'm I really feel for my girl,
Speaker 1: I really do. And and by my girl, I do
Speaker 1: not mean Brittany, but Brittany, you walk yourself onto into
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 2: Girl.
Speaker 1: You got your own ass whooping on this sweat. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: like you really shuld have avoided yourself a world of her.
Speaker 1: You gonna learn this.
Speaker 2: Shit took it. She took it right out back and
Speaker 2: beat her.
Speaker 1: And she's sitting over there in the corner pout and
Speaker 1: liked how she's mad mad. I cannot, I cannot wait
Speaker 1: for part three. It's gonna be really, really good. I
Speaker 1: think that at the very least, we're gonna get some
Speaker 1: more out of some tears, maybe out of Brittany, and
Speaker 1: some more, you know, moments of validation for my girl married,
Speaker 1: and she's gonna have some moments to stand on, to
Speaker 1: stand on it what you're looking forward to?
Speaker 2: I think, I honestly think we after this is all
Speaker 2: said and done, I think we're losing at least two
Speaker 2: cast members.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. Which two do you think?
Speaker 2: Oh? I guarantee you this was Heathergate's last reunion. You do.
Speaker 2: For some reason, something's telling me she's swinging in the
Speaker 2: wing because she knows she's on a very very thin ice.
Speaker 2: And I honestly think that's what's time to go to.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, forgot. We didn't hear from her like at
Speaker 1: all this whole episode now down like once. We haven't
Speaker 1: heard about all the money that Justin lost. If people
Speaker 1: want to know more news and things, the hot teas
Speaker 1: that you be speeling, y'all, y'all can't tell Mark out
Speaker 1: all the tea Justin blues.
Speaker 2: The money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot about that you don't get them reminders?
Speaker 1: Where can they go get those reminders from you? Mark?
Speaker 1: On the internet?
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Speaker 2: And now on Monday nights, my podcasting partner Tony and
Speaker 2: I are going live on Instagram and we're recapping Traders
Speaker 2: and he's finally dipping his feet into Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1: Finally love it. Welcome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just got to episode six. I was driving
Speaker 2: car from season two and he goes. He said, oh shit,
Speaker 2: it turned on a dime and I was like, it
Speaker 2: doesn't let up after that. It doesn't let up after that.
Speaker 1: Love that for him, Love that journey, and I love
Speaker 1: y'all for listening to our our journey. Mark. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for being here.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Of course it was such a dream. Y'all know I
Speaker 1: love me some Mary. It's gonna be I'm never gonna
Speaker 1: go this long again. Don't worry. I learned my lesson, y'all.
Speaker 1: Me and Meredith.
Speaker 2: Notice I didn't even notice.
Speaker 1: I was fine, I know, saying, but the girls were
Speaker 1: like hey, and I was like you right, okay. Thank
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