215. Bravo Hot Topics & RHOSLC Reunion Part 1 w/ Elle (@briefedbyelle)

0:00 Speaker 1: Sounds Russure. Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologists out there. It's your girl money and you are in the mix with Money. Okay. I really was tempted to start singing if you're a mixologist saying you know it, clap your hands and just like have a blast. And yes, that's because I've already done some things in my life today that have made me a much kinder, happier person, and one of those things is having Lle on the show. Briefed by Lle were about to be I mean, when there's a breaking news day, there's literally no one else that I am looking through my stories or I swear to you God, this just happened on my personal and on my personal and my mixologists like my Mixing with Money page.

0:56 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know which one I DM therefrom. I was like, Ell, what are you doing? Are you available? Breaking news? So happy to be here with you, Elle? How are you doing during these times? You really do news work, So how are you doing during these times?

1:10 Speaker 2: Just Leam, I'm unwell.

1:12 Speaker 1: You cover from all spectrums of the news, from what were about to talk about to day with my girl coming back and me seeing that and like real politics, I don't know how you have the range and bandwidth? How you doing?

1:24 Speaker 3: Not only am I unwell when I tell you like a freaking loser. I eat, sleep, and breathe this I think after good morning.

1:31 Speaker 2: The first words that I said to my husband.

1:33 Speaker 3: Were this race for the n district is getting ready to be crazy.

1:38 Speaker 1: Pause.

1:39 Speaker 3: Just for those listening, I'm a Jersey girl. Yes, you just elected Mikey Cheryl. And when I say we, I mean I was one of the thirty two content creators that were on her team.

1:48 Speaker 2: Thank you, and.

1:51 Speaker 3: Her as governor of the state there for her congressional district that she represents, they have to have a new seat, so there will be a special election on February fifth in the for that is our current lieutenant and acting governor in New Jersey. But also Annaliah I believe it's her name. Please forgive me if I'm saying it correctly incorrectly, but she is the progressive on the ticket who has been endorsed by Rasbaraka AOC, Bernie Sanders.

2:16 Speaker 2: The list goes on and on.

2:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, the girls are excited. I saw a TikTok today. You got me seeing tiktoks upon where to god Elle. I see New Jersey politics things, and if it's not because it's on your stories, because I watch your story enough that it's like you should care about this.

2:31 Speaker 2: You should care about this.

2:32 Speaker 1: Also because really people know in my actual personal life how much I love New Jersey. It's a weird thing that people don't know about me of all the stage. I get so excited when I get to go to New Jersey and people in my real life be like, why First, I have a long list. Okay, first of all, love that everything is on a freeway. That's fantastic. Why not? Why not? Makes it real easy for me to consume, which I like to do on a daily basis in one way or another. Do have real big problems with your roads?

3:04 Speaker 1: Not a fan? Real scary to take them exits and still have to make three more choices as soon as I took it. That's a lot. You're gambling with a lot of shit there. I see why everybody's angry. He has a little age, But I like that. I like the edgy this I do. I love your high Italian population and the mystery around it. That's tea fantastic. I really know I'm in it. I'm in it, like, oh wow, this pizza dest taste good. But there's only three guys in here. I just want you to know, and I'm sure this Hoboken, you say, rent is high as a kite.

3:37 Speaker 3: Also hooke that we had my daughter's third birthday party as per her request. Yes, at our favorite pizzeria.

3:45 Speaker 1: Okay, because when I went into a pizzeria in New Jersey and Hoboken, actually.

3:50 Speaker 4: There was a party for a child in there. A little white boy was having all ten of his best friends. And a pizzeria where there were three total individuals wolves Now that pizza. I got in there and said, this is I've watched enough power and everything in between from my wives to power to know what this is.

4:08 Speaker 3: It's some real Jersey I'm gonna eat behind the counter.

4:13 Speaker 2: They let her, you know, to the best of her.

4:15 Speaker 1: Huh. I'm gonna eat this in the car. But this is gonna be an episode or something later. I'm sure of it. This is a talent that will pop up on my feed if you're a crime junkie fan or whatnot. Ate it in Nakardo and l let me tell you best fucking pizza.

4:30 Speaker 3: Yah and then they be they be doing some things.

4:35 Speaker 2: So let me tell you this. I'm from Jersey, right, love that so jealous.

4:40 Speaker 3: Moved to Georgia my high school year, did high school, a little bit of college that I did whatever, have my baby down there, and then I moved back to Jersey, right. So of course there are a lot of things and trends and everything that you missed.

4:53 Speaker 2: And I came back, you know, for holidays and all of that.

4:55 Speaker 3: But still right when I was in Jersey, cheese fries was on the rise, like.

5:00 Speaker 2: This was the new thing, and they would do.

5:02 Speaker 3: Them different ways and you could get it with the ketchup and the hot sauce. The one pizza spot that I would get, they served it to in regular aluminum for.

5:09 Speaker 1: It, I'm fantastic, excellent.

5:12 Speaker 3: No bottom, and you know I'm not the paper plates at the pizzeria extan, so you're burning, yeah, ketchup, hot sauce, a little bit of ranch. They was doing the thing that was the hottest thing you could get from the pizzeria.

5:23 Speaker 2: Cut to I leave, I come back. Me and my.

5:25 Speaker 3: Husband we were going to a little family function and he was like, I don't trust the food at this shen Dick, and I said, let's eat first, So he said, I'm gonna take you to my favorite pizzeria.

5:36 Speaker 2: Cool.

5:36 Speaker 3: We go in there, but they had this was the beginning of it. But the baked ZD Pizza.

5:40 Speaker 1: Can't begin to tell you how I would have gotten so many of that. I hope you got another pound in the oven, sweetheart, because I'm taking half of that.

5:48 Speaker 3: They pay ZD Pizza And they had a bruchetta pizza.

5:54 Speaker 1: Three of those I'm not talking about.

5:55 Speaker 2: No. Can I believe hand fresh balsamic glade.

6:00 Speaker 1: You know I love a bruchette. It's actually I love a brewcehetta. I love a caprace. I'm supposed to be from New Jersey. Let me tell you something I feel, And people from the D and V are gonna I don't know unless you're from PG County, I don't want to hear it. But I think that we like New Jersey or I like New Jersey because it feels very familiar, like it feels like we live on the Beltway, and just because of the appearance of something in the proximity to the access roads does not negate the quality of whatever is in there.

6:36 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm talking You could go into a warehouse or a space in Atlanta and it looks like a scam is happening there. But in New Jersey you might be confused at first. It's like on the turnpike. Sure, you walk in and you're like, oh, no, someone's doing well in here. Oh this is great. This is gonna be a wedding.

6:52 Speaker 2: To remember, random buildings, hege.

6:56 Speaker 1: I mean, I've never been to a state that just has venues for what y'all just have mansions for weddings. That's not a thing? Is it also probably a front? We could talk about it. I'm opening all conspiracies and thoughts, but I like the ideas, so I don't think I'm mad at it.

7:14 Speaker 3: It's such a fun state because everybody here is on vibes. It's so expensive to love that that we have to live in our delusion in order to not realize like, oh wow, they're robbing us.

7:25 Speaker 1: Fantastic. First of all, I mean we're gonna talk housewives, so you know, I love a delusional world. That's why. That's also why y'all historically, up until they rant it into the ground, y'all loved Housewives of New Jersey because the delusion of those ladies, the deep ties, the delusion, but the lifestyle, the differentness of how they eat, sleep, move, It's like, oh, where are we going? That's what's inside. You're gonna put how much into this pizza? That's crazy. That's a big construction project.

8:00 Speaker 2: Jersey.

8:01 Speaker 3: Gia Jude Ice is opening a restaurant, collabing on a restaurant.

8:05 Speaker 1: I think so much. Ladies and gents and in betweens and all the things. All you mean, we are here to talk about hot topics, and boy did they all happen a lot this week. Y'all been busy. Y'all been busy. I could not talk about Bravo if I didn't want to. And speaking of maybe I'm gonna be taking another trip back to New Jersey. I think I'm gonna go to this restaurant whenever she opens it.

8:28 Speaker 2: Let's go together.

8:29 Speaker 1: Well, absolutely, I'm there. I love her. I was just telling her how much I love New Jersey because of the bagels. You see, I have something for every time someone asked.

8:38 Speaker 2: Me, why with butter and cream cheese?

8:42 Speaker 1: Absolutely? Any I mean, I want to poor crawl. I'm in it. I believe, I believe.

8:48 Speaker 2: I don't eat pork, but.

8:49 Speaker 1: I don't even like I will do. But when in freaking also almost wrong, like the weddings I've been to in New Jersey don't make sens And I just think that that that means something. I think that when you live in a life of delusion, like when you get to step into a world, like to think that a young lady younger than me, younger than I, younger than it's gonna start a restaurant. Yeah, Whilst her mom and her husband of various various rumors, scandals, allegations, he's been known for some financial concerns.

9:27 Speaker 1: We were concerned about her finances. They decided to go in together on a I think a like a like a wedding castle, one of those one of those venues of sorts that we were talking about. However, we were concerned about Teresa's money before. I don't know if any updates on that, but out of nowhere, instead of more information on that, we get some renderings, like some renderings and I'm not talking about the million dollar listing. Frederic and Ryan and them put up the really cute they put up the really cute like renderings when they put the money in that thing, no, I mean, like maybe the pro version of chagbt.

10:02 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be shady. I just think that maybe that of a restaurant that Jia is supposedly partnering. What is this? Is this possible or like, is this one of those things that we'll expect, like just will sit there in construction for a while. I don't tell me your new Jersey thoughts. I don't know my dad.

10:23 Speaker 3: So first of all, I want to say thank you, because the second that she posted that post, I said, but what about your finances?

10:31 Speaker 1: Okay, who got was and why? Jia?

10:36 Speaker 3: I think that was strategic. I think so put in the powervill in your baby's name.

10:42 Speaker 1: Remember when Jamal Bryant opened that restaurant for those girls, and baby girl just wanted to go to Nicki Minaj and she couldn't. She now had a loan in a restaurant that she didn't ask for. I hate your kids.

10:55 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, how's that restaurant doing.

10:58 Speaker 1: Y'all hate your children? The baby wanted to see Nicki Minaj, you instead gave her dad and a bad name. I don't unders, and then we're seeing it again. He could have at the very least.

11:16 Speaker 2: Were a choice. That was a choice.

11:18 Speaker 1: That was a choice. If you're gonna stam, also give the do a good job, be nice, have to pay out for the girls with Peter Thomas.

11:25 Speaker 2: Congratulations, God terrible.

11:28 Speaker 1: Could I just feel like I don't remember in my bits of watching Next Gen NYC Gus saying she wanted to open a restaurant in New Jersey with people or being into culinary anything.

11:43 Speaker 2: The last I heard from g she wanted to be a lawyer.

11:45 Speaker 1: Is she in the school for that or she just taking a break to be content, which is fun all the power to you. Still don't expect content creators to make restaurants. That is the number one most failing business unless I don't know. I just think that there's only a few.

12:01 Speaker 3: In the restaurant and you have benefits for cash orders.

12:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, put it in your daughter's name. It's so like, what do you think that we're going to think? And

12:15 Speaker 1: I know she's not that bright because she told him I'm not to get a prenup And I would have told you you would not have to do this if you had gotten that.

12:22 Speaker 3: Well, okay, so here's my theory on the prenum. I think that the Teresa we see is a facade. It's a house built on sand, right, Okay, And so, as per the divorce laws in the state of New Jersey, if you believe that everything that Louis was doing was above ground, there is more for you to gain by not having a prenup than there is for you to gain by having one, because you really ain't coming to the table with much.

12:51 Speaker 1: Got it heard? I mean I don't think she had much to begin with, That's true. I mean I don't know what I would have done. Oh I do. I wouldn't have married that man, Louie or Joe. Late too late for the for Joe, but for Louis, absolutely all the times were there. And to me to bring your daughter into this and open a restaurant, and when it's not her Drew like, it's not like, oh, she's giving her daughter, she's trying to set her up for success. This isn't funding anything. I'm hearing that Gia want to do Jia's money or anything.

13:22 Speaker 1: But also in the same show, and while we're talking about how Brielle on that show is funding her mama Kim Zosiak's entire life, I really have an issue with us also like letting this be okay. This is the same kind of exploitation, if not worse. I mean, Brielle at least gets to say yes or no to the purchases of her mama's lottery tickets. I guess I don't know, do something something. I just I have issues with her name being tied to something that, like y'all, y'all's lawyers say, why your daughter?

13:58 Speaker 1: Ah, It just really confus. We could just do something else.

14:02 Speaker 2: We could definitely do something.

14:03 Speaker 1: We just get a job. Like y'all are so close to getting the show back together. I know, but I think that, oh, they want to do this so that we will get them the show back. I forgot selling me, y'all. Is that what you're yelling at the storyline? Because and they all got back together.

14:18 Speaker 3: Remember I was gonna say making up with Melissa is not enough, and no, you can't do that.

14:23 Speaker 1: Whole family made up with each other, everybody involved.

14:27 Speaker 2: Especially because this is Jersey. I want to see y'all fight. And this is the thing. This is the thing.

14:32 Speaker 3: The fighting that happened on Jersey in the beginning season one before we went and got Melissa worked because every pocket had a vested person, right like Teresa and the Manzos weren't family, so we could argue.

14:48 Speaker 2: But I'm also only going to argue.

14:49 Speaker 3: But so far, so far because Dina is my best friend, right, so there's there's a little bit of mutual respect here that translates to real life. Right then it was Teresa to dan yell, we're not family at all, Carrod it to Danielle, and then Jacqueline and Carol can have their sister in law.

15:05 Speaker 2: Things cool.

15:06 Speaker 3: Right when it became watching Teresa and Melissa fight, it broke the mold because this is not it wasn't. Each clique is not supposed to have its internal battles. Y'all are supposed to throw rocks at other people, and so them clicking back up works also Dolorous, She came from Patterson like, this is a this is a friend. I want to see how you argue with your homegirls, your friends. I don't want to see how y'all literally fall apart as a family.

15:31 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, and I do. I am exciting for Housewives of Rhode Island, for Dolores to kind of like introduce us to those earlies, to give us the same vibe. But I don't know, Y'll just never make me hate New Jersey. I just I think that's that was never. We can find fresh and if you find fresh meat, we could there. There's a lot of them there, y'all.

15:52 Speaker 3: I told you I used to work with Joleen from Real Housewives in the New Jersey which one who what's okay?

15:57 Speaker 2: Y'all know I suck with season numbers.

15:59 Speaker 3: But it was the season when Jacqueline had the trainer that came in and the trainer kept dipping off to go drink.

16:05 Speaker 2: The setter home wine out of her bag.

16:07 Speaker 1: Yes, I worked with her. My god, season four.

16:11 Speaker 2: So I never watched Real Housewives of New Jersey. I was in Atlanta.

16:17 Speaker 3: So at this time I was working at AGM in New Jersey. And there is this lady and she you remember the sneaker the wedge sneaker.

16:24 Speaker 1: Heels, huh, I left us.

16:27 Speaker 2: She used to walk around she.

16:28 Speaker 3: Was hired as a trainer and she used to walk around in these and it was like whenever she came, they were kind of like laying out the red carpet and I was like, what what? Like she was Joline was so sweet, but she was walking around with her tracks. You could see the tracks, and so it was just like, what's the hype right?

16:42 Speaker 2: Like it just wasn't being explained to me.

16:44 Speaker 3: So finally the head of the training department was like that she's from Real Housewives in New Jersey. She's going to bring in a big clientele. Da da da da da da da da da. I'm like, okay, I'm in the office at the gym. I've got office hours. This particular day, Joline walks in the room. She goes, Hey, what size do you wear? I was like, choose clothes, Like what pants? I told her in my size. She goes, you want to model? Yeah, sure, okay, I'm gonna text you the information. And then I think, like a week later, I was being picked up by a black car and rode out to New York to do Picks eleven I think is the name of the channel out there to do a new segment, and I was like, the you can take your stuff from day to night I did with Toda and Kathie Lee.

17:29 Speaker 1: I love them both.

17:30 Speaker 2: I did. I gotta find it.

17:31 Speaker 3: I posted it a while ago, but I did a new segment, a little holiday day to night news segment, having on Live TV in my spanks having to get dressed real fast.

17:40 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's amazing. Jacqueline's personal trainer none on Reddit for the lady who won't stop drinking from her wine by the bool in the bag. Yeah, and I love New Jersey. It's just but just because it may look that bananas doesn't mean it's not some of the most beautiful places I've ever seen, some of the best food I've ever had. I've yet to have a bad meal. And you're like, well, I've had bad meals in New Jersey. That's you. It's not me. I've had great ones.

18:13 Speaker 2: I've had bad.

18:14 Speaker 1: Like I don't live there though, so I'm lucky. I don't know that too.

18:18 Speaker 3: I had bad, like repeat meals, if that makes sense, Like you have one it's really good, and then it becomes your little fixation and now when you want to go back, it's not like as good the second time around, or something it's a different cook or something like that. Okay, but I don't think overall like we've got good food. And when I was in Georgia, as good as the food is in Georgia, I used to crab like hoey and cheeseburger just food bagels. They don't do bagels like that. We got like Manhattan bagels in Georgia.

18:48 Speaker 3: Yeah no, this is not the place for bagels. New Jersey is.

18:52 Speaker 1: Georgia is the place for one thing, and one thing in particular. That is literally good looking women.

19:01 Speaker 2: But.

19:02 Speaker 3: Little barbecue be good like foold be good, but good woman is.

19:07 Speaker 1: Let me tell you about how you have so many if you are watching Traders right now, so many moments from your pop culture lexicon from the last couple of years has now come from a Georgia peage. My first Phaedria coming back to Traders and giving us and then now coming back fully to Bravo because of that. Now Porsche being on Traders in season four, and she's already been on Housewives of Atlanta and she's.

19:32 Speaker 3: Been back there back to season five because she was the first one voted out.

19:35 Speaker 1: We know, and good luck heading a season without. In fact, this is about to be Porscha's year. Porsia is on the freaking rise because not only is she going to be on this new season, she's also now with a new boot. And you know, I'm thrilled, not that I have it, goes on record, not as thrilled as my wife. She wants that to be on the record. She's more thrilled. Good. Porscha is now a at least at the moment, let's load dolla beting.

20:02 Speaker 2: I like that for her, love it for her.

20:04 Speaker 1: They're so happy looking earlier because we know, we knew, we could have been known.

20:09 Speaker 2: We were fighting with Candy about the situation.

20:12 Speaker 1: There in South and South you know that whole.

20:14 Speaker 2: Season of that got favor in trouble that one.

20:18 Speaker 1: That was one thing. Yeah, Also what was being alleged in South Carolina.

20:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you meant.

20:25 Speaker 3: Yes the bolo Yes, yes, yes, which is like cool.

20:30 Speaker 1: Like standing it and I'm good with that also, like no one is. It's just not the gag y'all think it is. I'm just letting y'all know. In twenty twenty six, that's why it's being so well received, and that's why Portia is having a great time having a new relationship. Though just last year people recalling her all kinds of things because all that stuff was not men January, She's got she's already. She was doing good. She was on Traders, got off, She's gonna be on season five. She got a brand new booing relationship and that seems to be going well, and she is going She just was announced on the cast of The Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip, the new show coming to Barravo and Peacock and all of them.

21:08 Speaker 1: A cast of characters, cast stuff, Porsia definitely being the one I'm the most excited about, but quite a few. I think this cast needed to be We're gonna work. We're gonna work backwards. We're gonna work backwards with what they had to do because of what they didn't do that they should have done. Let's discuss, okay, please. The Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip cast was announced at this time just yesterday, about sixteen hours ago. It was a up to because of the twenty years of Housewives like celebration.

21:45 Speaker 1: The cast is as follows, from bottom to top. Lisa Barlowe, Giselle Bryant, Porscha Williams, Kyle Richards. That is always a choice, y'all. Y'all will always make that choice. Not to mention she was on the first season anyways, I'm sorry, Threesa, Judas okay, okay, Luyenne, Della Septs and Vicky Gumbleson.

22:05 Speaker 3: And everybody here with the exception of Vicky and Lisa have already done Ultimate Girls trips.

22:12 Speaker 1: All of these people have except for those two in which.

22:15 Speaker 3: Case, but we didn't see Luans, so we didn't see We didn't get to see her.

22:20 Speaker 2: On the first one. Kyle was on the first one, correct, Yes.

22:23 Speaker 3: With Ternjazelle was on the joint together where they stole Heather's bottle?

22:29 Speaker 2: Yes, right was it? Heather?

22:32 Speaker 1: Yeah, Heather, there you go. And Lisa. Yeah, this is a moment for her. I'm very excited for her to be outside of the girls. This is actually something I would have loved to see. She deserves to be not just fun a van but I think she'll work best this way. Y'all will continue to force Vicky gumboleson on us. Y'all love her such a better cast.

22:51 Speaker 2: Why are we getting repeat girls? Heather Debro was right there.

22:56 Speaker 1: That would have been great, better than VICKI. I really just don't understand why will put while y'all ded you she said that Heather was the most divert it was too diverse for OC, so you put her on a cast like this.

23:07 Speaker 3: So if I'm going franchise by franchise, like I'm gonna replace each picture instead of.

23:12 Speaker 1: Victim, so oc who we're replacing.

23:14 Speaker 2: With instead of VICKI, I'm going.

23:16 Speaker 3: Heather got it New York instead of lu When, I'm going, what's my girl?

23:21 Speaker 2: The Silva new season aside.

23:24 Speaker 1: Side, I'm going, Okay, okay, very new Jersey.

23:27 Speaker 3: You haven't had any of the reboot girls exist in the Bravos their franchise.

23:33 Speaker 2: They might work better Jersey.

23:35 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, well, let'sa's done it. Carolines got buried. It was her fault, or not her fault, but her situation. That so she won't do it again.

23:44 Speaker 3: No, no teeth, girl, she was she was mad, she was eating the mozzarella, shoving it all in her face.

23:51 Speaker 2: What's her name? She lost weight? Festler, Jen, Festler, My love Jen. That would be good.

23:58 Speaker 1: She will get along with the l Okay Beverly Hills.

24:02 Speaker 3: Beverly Hills, not sutt In, not Kyle, not Dirry, Erica, definitely not Bows.

24:09 Speaker 2: Who's left?

24:13 Speaker 3: No, no, okay, anybody, we can get it.

24:17 Speaker 1: She's not full time. But Jennifer Tilly is fun.

24:22 Speaker 2: Yes, that's why I was thinking.

24:24 Speaker 1: Fun and rich and doesn't understand the way things work. It's great, That's who I want there. Okay, Atlanta, Atlanta, Porscha keep. I'm sorry, that's my safe.

24:35 Speaker 2: I was going to save Porsia has to stay.

24:37 Speaker 1: But if we just add another Atlanta, we really couldn't this all together. And I'll tell you the other Let's save the other Atlanta for last. Okay, keep yourself or she's done it before we could do And this is having a good time with traders. I'm sorry, I'm having time.

24:55 Speaker 2: What's her name, Stacy.

24:57 Speaker 3: Hell yeah, absolutely, it's a nice knocklist for her right there, right.

25:01 Speaker 1: There, m yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I want her. I love that lady so much. I'm having such a blast with Potomac Grid.

25:11 Speaker 2: I fully enjoy her.

25:13 Speaker 1: I really do. Okay, in Salt Lake City, well, Lisa's new, we can keep her.

25:18 Speaker 2: Lisa is new, we could keep her.

25:21 Speaker 1: I think she's the best pet.

25:22 Speaker 3: If I was just going to say that, I would like to see broun win outside of her cast, go okay. I know I know y'all, I know how y'all feel about her, But I feel like.

25:35 Speaker 1: I think she's smart. I will say that every time. I think she's smart smart, I think there it is. I respect her greatly.

25:43 Speaker 3: I think the jin Bateman and boy on the show. I'm saying I think they have the same issue. Both of them really want to be accepted. And I think this is what I feel like. The show has been on for so long, you cannot deny that there is an offe camera circle, whether that be strategic or genuine friendship, right, And I don't think Bateman or Braunwin are in anybody's off camera inner circle.

26:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they want to be real bad.

26:11 Speaker 2: They want to be into.

26:12 Speaker 3: What we see on camera is them showing themselves worthy, to be valuable, to be in person on camera.

26:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you delivered very differently, but it's the same.

26:23 Speaker 3: Exist in a space where that's not the tone of the cast.

26:28 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I can see her doing the same thing because I think it matters to her being an housewife. Just I can agree with that to be in this situation it was. It's literally now her bread and butter. It is. It's a proven method though it does work, and I'm not mad at it. If you have a piece of shit husband at any point and you can get him to agree to let you be on a housewife franchise near you, this is so niche of a way out that I am. I have to respect it. I'm really I really do. It's the it's the cleanest way.

27:04 Speaker 1: When I listen to as much true crime as I do, I respect the goddamn hustle. I really do. You're making sure you're doing well for your baby, because people married to men, it seems like there are moments that they really drive you to some serious thoughts and some serious feelings and embarrassments my word publicly nationally to the edge in which case, and he seems like none of those in which case. You know, if you can get some great outfits to get people's attention in one season and then a killer storyline of authenticity because your elder husband is that you're being so devoted to.

27:44 Speaker 1: It's not necessarily that good or warm to you, and you're just trying to do your best to be honest amongst the women. But you got yourself a second season bagged and then you don't need and you got your citizenship to stay in this country. Bitch. Respect. I know, mom got a house, daughter is straight, daughter got a boyfriend, she got she's trying to get the hell okay back on her. I'm telling you, if Bronwin was my broker. I would trust her. She got a Chris Jenner level of respect for me. I'm sweared of god.

28:13 Speaker 1: I don't have to like Chris Jenner or I think she's a good mom at all to be like, if there's anybody in this world that i'd be like, negotiate the deal so I can get the optimum most amount of respect, awards, accolades, least amount of word, most amount of credit, most amount of content, most amount of brand dew from it all one thing. It's insane. I respect it. I think Bronwin is calculated, but not in a way that is that is negative. I think she does what she has to do to survive. She's scrappy as hell according to this this reunion we will discuss.

28:45 Speaker 1: But I want to get back to the cast of Ultimate Girls Ship because I could see her on this show. I actually think she'd be even cooler. I do think that she could adapt in a way of even cooler. She knew that her reach could get beyond Utah. She knows she's a butterfly, and I would like to see those wings fly so I could see.

29:02 Speaker 3: That that she wasn't a US citizen. I was like, not in the way of like a Deri or a Luan.

29:07 Speaker 2: But give us a little.

29:08 Speaker 1: More there you go, where's that? Where is that language? And honestly, if we get rid of the Beverly Hills trip, I mean a person altogether, we can go ahead and just make room for the original, the greatest. You will never get me to come off of this stool, this pedestal of absolute facts. Nimi Lenethia Niini Leaks is the only person that I ever said from the moment they announced this franchise of a show of Real Housewives, Ultimate Girls Trip, how you don't get MEI Leaks. It doesn't make sense if you're talking about an og island.

29:49 Speaker 1: You can't make OG's if you don't have me. We have now come to a place where this is still within our reach, but yet we're not right there. But because it's could do, friend of, they're making thirty two stops. That's that's a lot, She's go, it's a lot a lot of people. They're just seeing a lot of girlies and and and seeing the people. Okay, so maybe thirty two, maybe not, but they're seeing so many people that Nini not being in actual seat on the bus and only someone we stopped to see. I mean, I guess this is still like a test, but just know that's the episode it's going to stream the highest.

30:34 Speaker 1: But they broke her to deal to the point that was I need to know. But Nini even thanked Porsche specifically, which I think was really wildly interesting and impactful, strategic, strategic. She thanked Porsche for really getting her back in with the Bravo girlies. Nini leaks is returning to Bravo and in the saga of the lawsuits and the fights and the yelling in the courtrooms, the lawyers not getting along with Andy and Nini really falling out, which for real Bravo Gurley's og Bravo fans like from the early days that hurt.

31:14 Speaker 1: I don't think I ever, I don't think Andy ever. I think me and Andy mourned the same like it was really it was hard because they made so much great magic together. Nini is such a reason for Bravo's success. She is not just one of the ogs. Yes, I do say all the ogs have made Bravo exponentially a powerful force. I do mean that for every single franchise, including Vicky Gobelson. Though I think that she's progressed terribly. That's just age, but it is her show. Like I do give her that. I understand.

31:44 Speaker 1: She was always great television. But like Nini in Atlanta did numbers that people just didn't see and that was not an accident and you cannot fake that data. And I just think that that's really important. It was no streaming than they were doing actual numbers. They were doing football numbers Atlanta premiere television Sunday Nights. Please. That was because of Nini Leek's and her cast of friends, people who are around her, great ensemble cast. But a thrill line from Jay one was that Bravo put the right bet on Niini leaks, and we saw that when they changed the entire cast of season one of Atlanta save Charat and Nini, and Nini did not leave until she was wanting to leave and work allowed.

32:28 Speaker 1: Yeah her too, but she didn't last very much longer either, and didn't And that's okay.

32:33 Speaker 2: It was gonna fly out my mouth.

32:34 Speaker 3: See, Okay, this is what I always say about Lisa Woo. I don't feel like Lisa Woo got a fair wrap on reality TV because of her personal life. Number one, Lisa Woo got kids by Keith Sweat. Yeah, we didn't think that's a good storyline there, but that Keith Sweat got that good old contract. Okay, she couldn't talk about it, so we couldn't need the kids, and she immediately came in only being able to talk about her life with Ed.

32:59 Speaker 2: Ed is a piece of work. And if you didn't believe that it was a piece of work from what you saw in Atlanta, you then saw what he put Keisha Knight pulling him.

33:06 Speaker 1: Through that was also very bad.

33:08 Speaker 3: Very I'm not here to judge nobody, but I also feel like part of the hell that he'd be putting these women through is because he don't fully like women.

33:14 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, probably absolutely that.

33:16 Speaker 3: So she kind of got a bad rap because she it was automatically so much stuff that she couldn't talk about. So then even some of like I forget I would have to go back and watch it. But even some of the little underhanded reads that came in season two came because they knew Lisa couldn't respond, And.

33:32 Speaker 1: That does make sense. I didn't hate li Say as I rewatched Atlanta for like I don't know the seventh or eighth time, as I'd gotten older from when I watched it when I was in college or something, and so it helps. I mean, you can read watch it anytime, y'all know. Howel about season three? It's my favorite season of house television ever. It is so much, it's hilarious. It's the first season of Phaedra Park's Attorney EESQ where she comes on.

33:58 Speaker 2: I didn't realize how long we had her.

34:00 Speaker 1: I'm done, I believe. Oh y'all, y'all, don't let me get some lion. But I'm pretty sure it's I do. I believe myself. But it's because I always referenced season three because I absolutely love Phaedra and I remembered her arrival being so insane, so insane to me. And okay, so when did Atlanta start? It started in two thousand and eight, Yeah, season three. She was on there in twenty.

34:29 Speaker 3: Ten looking at how fad if you've ever or not season but Real Housewives of Atlanta and then looking at her be like a video vixen, bad bitch Now is very weird for me.

34:41 Speaker 1: Okay, So she had a weird time in her we TV era. Yes, I followed her there. It did change the trajectory. No, before that, she was on marriage Boot camp, and she had wigs down two I was young el and she had wigs down to her ankles. Onesie's from Ava. Go look at the footage. Go look at it. Look at me Phaedia on marriage boot Camp. Have you a time of dumb images? Okay, some boyfriend for ir at the time. That was right before she went on to Braxton's and she was off Bribo looking for a new home. She was over there.

35:16 Speaker 1: I followed her there because I love her that much. She and I, She and Nini and Porsche for me have always been like relief of heart, like it's been, even though when I know they're flawed. I have never said that Nini is not flawed. I do think that of all these ladies, that's literally why we left them. However, of things that give me joy and make me laugh and make good television, I don't know how you don't make a show or how you make a show like this and you don't include Atlanta, and you don't include Nini leads.

35:48 Speaker 2: You'll never get me to understand that.

35:50 Speaker 1: And so the fact that she's just the stop, I think it's still a test and I don't understand it. They do make everybody do one Fader had to go to trader Is. She did. She did a toll shed this medicine Traders. She'd do her thing, you know, her apology tour. And this is Nini's first humble acceptance, and she's very pleased to be here. I need to see how she's doing since Greg, I don't feel like we'll have enough time with her, which is why I don't love this. But they had to announce this cast like this so that they could tell us why Nini was gonna make her big return, because they knew that news was going to eclipse us.

36:29 Speaker 1: They knew that if you tell us that Nini leaks, it's coming back to Bravo. There's nothing else that we're going to talk about. We're not gonna think about whatever little cast or van charter jet y'all gonna get another They're just getting a van. We're only gonna think about Nini leaks, which is why they had to release this little van footage first of what's coming soon, so that they could then year us up to be like But also, guys, we did it. We made it nice. We broke it. Her deal between the two greatest comedy duo of all times Andie can produce the hell out of Nini, and I've always thought that Nini trusts Andy.

37:05 Speaker 1: Andy trusts Nini. They had a falling out because they got too close. Just figure it out. I'm glad they figured it out, and I hope that they remain in good graces because I need her back full time. I need another ultimate something something with her. I don't think I need her going to Atlanta trying to re establish her queendom. I think I need her in this setting of good girlies from all over who had been here and done that and are having a ball. I think Nina is great as long as there's no Kim Zosiak with a neck to choke.

37:35 Speaker 1: I think she's great on a van I did.

37:38 Speaker 2: We don't need her on that band with Kim ord the other girl Sweetie.

37:43 Speaker 1: No, no, Sweety's in that je area. I'm so happy for her. What's she doing in that year she got married? She did sposed to do okay and but did it right long time ago, still married, good girl. I man love that for her. Yeah, I don't know why I love Atlanta that much. I don't like living there, didn't love that, don't like hit it all, but best TV show in a long time, one of the ones that never stops hitting you can. I have friends that are rewatching in a group chat that I'm in. They're rewatching Atlanta for like their first rewatch in a long time or ever, and they just got to season three and they're just like this show.

38:16 Speaker 1: They're like, this show was one season gold from episode one and they were like, Oh, Meanie's been a star. I'm like, thank you. And that was before the news came out. It was rumored Nini was coming back for the last like two weeks. She might be coming back. She might be coming back. It'd be like, oh, it would have to be here on a trip. Oh, it would have to be her on Atlanta. Oh, it would have to be her full time. They said, Oh no, we didn't get that deal, but we do love that y'all are excited to watch her one episode of how well eight episodes held.

38:44 Speaker 2: Out for that contract.

38:45 Speaker 3: I hope that she I do too, made them pay for it. This will be what your cost is the thing. First of all, I don't share that sentiment. I love living in Atlanta as much as I love Jersey, as much as I I will go back if somebody give me a driving Atlanta right now to pay all my bills. I'll pack up and go tonight.

39:04 Speaker 2: You hear me.

39:04 Speaker 1: I also lived outside of Atlanta, and I lived during the pandemic and the Trump administration.

39:09 Speaker 2: That is different.

39:10 Speaker 1: It was really hard to during the pandemic. It was really hard.

39:14 Speaker 3: I'm south side what I will say, Ponderosa in King Kankle experience to the side. I've experienced more because I'm also on TikTok in Jersey than I ever experienced in Georgia.

39:29 Speaker 2: So that's number one. But I don't know. It's like Atlanta is not a real place. So every day, every adventure felt like out in Wonderland. Right.

39:39 Speaker 1: It is a point.

39:40 Speaker 3: Where on that episode where Kim Sozozak is changing her outfit in the parking lot.

39:45 Speaker 2: What is that season one? Right? Okay, so that parking lot.

39:48 Speaker 1: They go from day one too. I'm sorry.

39:51 Speaker 3: That parking lot is right down street from one of my favorite restaurants in Atlanta, Eclipse the Luna. It is the toppest style rest the wrong Oh my god, oh my god.

40:02 Speaker 1: I love it.

40:03 Speaker 3: I have my engagement party there. I love that food so much. I met hundred three thousand there. I met Monica there. The place is like it's a little bit above a hole in the wall.

40:11 Speaker 2: But it's definitely not fair.

40:12 Speaker 1: I love it.

40:12 Speaker 2: It's like rustic, like the gold plates that I mean, the glass plates that go like this when you touch them on the bottom. Things like that. Okay, cool.

40:20 Speaker 3: So anyway, that gas station is where, like if we was going out for the night, did you wanna stop at that gas station before you go to a clip so you can make sure you can have gas in a car.

40:29 Speaker 2: Back in the day before I was a mother, I used to.

40:32 Speaker 3: Smooth mouse and so bless you, you know, like just when you get turned.

40:37 Speaker 2: It's not like for a day.

40:41 Speaker 1: I understand.

40:44 Speaker 2: The the jarm clothes, huh. And that's why I would have to stop at that gas station.

40:48 Speaker 1: Okay, so you understood, Sweeten. It chme the experience in that moment. Quality stars out of five for quality.

40:57 Speaker 3: Now, I would never live inside of the Atlanta city limits. I would never I would never recommend ittp Yes and I did, I did. I did you on the south side and the north side, but never.

41:10 Speaker 1: Take that way. No, I love them deep. I'm very multifaceted. You don't even know. I both care deeply about politics and the migos, and and he needs return to Atlanta, all things like. I had big enough feelings about this as I've had about the headlines this week, pretty much the same.

41:28 Speaker 2: Same they do.

41:29 Speaker 3: And I don't know how to explain to you how Iran closing their airspace and Verizon having a power outage that they were it.

41:38 Speaker 1: Was the visa revokings for me from everywhere not I don't have any other word other than everywhere got me down.

41:47 Speaker 3: In Minnesota, basically trying to be like, Yo, you mess with Iran, you mess with us. I don't know how to explain to you how all of those also sit on the same level as a mini coming back systems.

42:00 Speaker 1: Not Well, I'm married to a chiropractor. She tells me that every day.

42:04 Speaker 3: Oh my guy, I'm about to come to your house so she could touch my back respectfully.

42:08 Speaker 1: You know, she makes house falls. Also, I have a I have good My best friends are chiropractors in New Jersey. That's why I'm there all the time, all the time. Females d no, so for real, hold on. Shout out to Floris's Chiropractic. They just had their second year, third year anniversary party. They are pregnancy and prenatal and family chiropractic clinic, but she specializes in women and women's bodies. Are literally having like a women's event tonight that I was like, can I go? And she was like, you don't live here, I said, but I could, Victoria, I do.

42:44 Speaker 1: They're in Bergen County, in Waldwick. They're in Sorry, I'm sorry, I do is all so far away? I'm so sorry, I do. I do understand, y'all. Jersey is a whole country.

42:58 Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to tell you.

43:00 Speaker 3: So I love it Jersey, South Jersey, Philly. I don't know what Central Jersey is. I don't know, and I wish they would go away. It's not a real place, I said. That is the town that Wanda lived in and created in WandaVision, Ohion, because remember she's also in Jersey.

43:17 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm my see and she has heard alert exactly. But also, yeah, that's how we do it in the mix. That's literally why I like to be here, and I like having you here. And let me tell y'all from one randomly cold like what would be special about there? Until you open up our worlds through the Bravo screens to another winter wonderland where no one would want to be there until you opened up our world through the Bravo screens. The Households of Salt Lake City had their reunion Part ton of their most recent season that we never thought we'd get to a pair of cord in Emeretith.

43:53 Speaker 1: She really was like, maybe I should have just stuck at season five, but didn't think we'd see past five. But here we are at season six Reunion Part one. You're not an enthusiastic Bravo watcher all the time, but you did involve and indulge yourself in this journey of the reunion. For your appearance today on the show, what were your thoughts? Because I thought it was important to have you here because one of the reasons also why Nini Leaks is so great is because of the amount of reunion moments, monumental moments that she can create, that she has created just by beating herself, but that we can get from seasons that were magical because of her her things, but also reunions that were spectacular and memorable because of her things.

44:39 Speaker 1: Salt Lake City is one of the shows that has really come out of a post a completely post Nini era that was like born and bred without any of her niniisms to see if it will flee or flop. It hon very high and it's done very well, but it has come at a very high production cost. It seems sometimes like literally and figuratively like producing a friendships and other things. But I do think it works because of how entertained I am when I watched, Because I think they just got some really entertaining women from this place that we did not see coming, and that is what I think we were getting from Salt Lake City this season.

45:23 Speaker 1: So what were your thoughts on this season? This first part reunion? First parts are usually not that exciting, but like, how did you fare? Were you getting a Sam?

45:32 Speaker 2: I had not watched the episode.

45:34 Speaker 3: I was the episode before the reunion and the reunion behind.

45:37 Speaker 2: I was caught up with the rest of the season.

45:40 Speaker 1: You did great.

45:41 Speaker 3: I do think we are coming to the end of my rope with Daddy Andy hosting the reunions. You do, I do, because there was some there there for the beginning of that reunion where it turned into mess. We start off the reunion and Whitney, you know, and I like the accountability she's being accountable for how intox kid she was at Bravo Khan and how she appeared on Watch What Happens Live, and then how that fared into her conversation with Meredith because Meredith came out the gate swinging.

46:12 Speaker 2: There were no clips.

46:13 Speaker 3: You didn't show no clips to her stumbling and watch what Happens Live? You didn't say Andy didn't say to her like that was a perfect read for Andy to be like, let's unpack that. Why was you that drunk? Like Meredith was delivering reads like oh.

46:25 Speaker 1: I didn't know, yeah, carry.

46:27 Speaker 2: You up the steps? And Andy said nothing.

46:29 Speaker 1: Also, you said that you were you apologize for being drunk or watch what Happens Live? One you said it like again like you have before. That would have been a great opportunity to show that y'all have to watch what Happens Live footage and been like now available on peacock because it is and I know y'all want people to watch that, but I would one hundred percent want to go back. I just got adhd real bad, so I will not remember to go do that. In fact, I knew I heard I wanted I wanted to see that when I saw that this morning when I was watching the reunion, and I'm remembering now that I still want I would want to see how drunk she was.

47:04 Speaker 1: But they should have just ran that footage, like run that tape. I did not even call that. Andy didn't mention the fact that you knew and you didn't tell us you knew she was being legitimate, and you didn't tell us what happened to do I need any in the camera. It's the whole gag of the meme, My love. I just I don't understand, well, listen, I want to talk about this color scheme as well. When they walked in and walked out, I thought that almost individually, women looked great. And then I didn't understand why people were sitting, well, understand why people were sitting when they were sitting.

47:38 Speaker 1: But I then didn't understand why we say yes to the addresses that we say yes to, knowing they were going to set where they would were going to set because Joel tones question mark is what I wrote as what the thing was. But yet half the couch is like purple and the other half is Perrywinkle everything else. Yeah, why is y'all? I don't understand what are we doing? I just thought we should have a little bit more understanding for where everybody stood in their relationships when we said yes to the dresses.

48:07 Speaker 1: But I do think ladies look nice. I just do not think that it looks well together in a sense in a shot, so we unfortunately.

48:17 Speaker 2: Not looking well together.

48:18 Speaker 3: I also want to take a moment and give two seconds to the shirt that Mary wore under the dress that Angie got for the girls.

48:25 Speaker 2: One second? Did two seconds? I want to take Angie, if Mary is your.

48:29 Speaker 3: Best friend on this cast and you was getting them dresses for them girls, why you didn't get a different cut one for Mary specifically, or tell her to pack something under the dress because you knew that we ain't never seen that much skin from miss.

48:41 Speaker 1: Mary never will.

48:42 Speaker 2: Do you understand how she did us weekly cover?

48:45 Speaker 1: Oh no, you don't understand how the church works, because y'all still want to call it something that is not. I just want to ask without any explanation, and that is a personal choice because I'm dealing with some things in my life right now. And rewatch it and we look and re visiting some parts of my past. Did you watch the documentary? You did? Did you think Mary should respond to it at this reunion. Since this is her platform.

49:10 Speaker 3: I think that this is her platform and so she should utilize it, right. But I don't think that they're huh, trying to kick me off, TikTok. I don't really think that there's anything that she can say, like it's not going to be a good enough answer at any point the moment we met Mary Cosby, I can go pull.

49:31 Speaker 1: Old podcast, I said me too.

49:33 Speaker 3: Reality TV cameras do not belong inside of Black Megachurch.

49:39 Speaker 1: Absolutely not to be able to.

49:42 Speaker 3: Understand that more than one thing can be true at once.

49:45 Speaker 2: When we are talking about the big wants is that are a church?

49:48 Speaker 3: You cannot number? That documentary felt like a hit piece.

49:51 Speaker 1: And what I'm trying to tell you, Elle is that we can. I know we can because y'all gave ether the same opportunity to do the same thing differently. Yes, and that's not that felt pointed to me. So we can't understand the nuances. We just can't understand when it's Mary and I have an issue with that.

50:08 Speaker 2: I haven't. The issue is that it looks so different, right And yeah, sure.

50:14 Speaker 1: I know I was on Mary's team. That's on purpose.

50:19 Speaker 3: I would say that she has to address it without reading nobody down right, like we have to walk this fine line of which I think historial, but also acknowledging the fact that that documentary felt like up and Adam paid a production team to do this. This is also the same up An Adam who flew to Mary's mother's house to have this interview with her. Then you have a majority cast of white people analyzing the goings on of the Pentecostal church. And that's not to say that white people don't occupy that space, but that is to say that when they showed that footage of the church, I didn't see a bunch of white people.

50:55 Speaker 1: Okay, you won't.

50:57 Speaker 3: I have been and it's and I took major of to sitting there watching a documentary wherein white people called her church a cult because somebody came up and laid down at the altar.

51:08 Speaker 1: Oh my god, y'all would genuinely think that my church was absolutely and I'm not to say that it's not. The two things cannot be treated to actually have. There's a lot of nuances because while I am this protective of the black church and the black church experience, I have also been very vocal and honest about my experience growing up in one, treating it with some of the same language and the same feelings of someone who resonated with being in what you would consider or what you would call a cult.

51:37 Speaker 1: That to be said, while I have those feelings, and I have processed emotions and things that have happened that have dramatized me in certain ways, I am still very protective of the understanding of one that space is more than just whatever you think that that good reason for why your girlies get into one of our like a susceptible to those things. We're not talking the same thing. We are talking about generations and generations of beliefs and morals and family and ties and community that is so sacred and and miswoven, but also born of something that we did not create in this country.

52:19 Speaker 1: So before you get to talking about how people can't be acting like they were delivered, let's talk about what they were once trying to be delivered from. Don't get me started like I don't understand like you acting to go Someone weighed out on the altar, Yes, what was she going through? What was on in her life? That was my entire experience, and I was not in a Pentecostal church. My church was non denominational, and I still recognized Mary Church real deeply.

52:45 Speaker 3: Okay too, And I've been a member of Southern Baptist yep.

52:55 Speaker 1: My wife is a Southern Baptist. And I'm talking in the Tai y'all off ahead and swung it in the air because the spirit has moved her. And I am also talking to pastor and not admonishing her for doing that because you don't have to do all that, but also in that us having an issue with that because you're reprimanding her because the way that will be perceived. And that's because of where we're at right now.

53:20 Speaker 2: I left my child, but.

53:23 Speaker 1: Look at what we're doing by the way she's being perceived. It's just like wow, like really no space for her to have nu Once.

53:32 Speaker 3: Though my family church, my Greek grandmother was at the groundbreaking ceremony. My grandmother was a trustee acchoired director.

53:38 Speaker 1: Yep, yep, Family Church.

53:39 Speaker 2: Okay, cool. We left that church because my mother was the praise dance director. Right.

53:43 Speaker 3: I do know this life elder who was my grandmother's first cousin, the elder who was over the praise dance ministry wanted my mother to choreograph a dance to Donnie Mulkirkin's Stand.

53:53 Speaker 1: Okay, that is wild how she feeling this week. I'm sorry to her class.

53:57 Speaker 3: So my mom says, there's no debt to that song stand Stand, Like you know, we I too danced to it.

54:04 Speaker 1: It was a weird one.

54:05 Speaker 2: It's a weird one. So she goes.

54:08 Speaker 3: The song that was picked was like something off of Kurt Franklin God's Property album, but not Stump, but like one of those The storm.

54:16 Speaker 2: Is over now we're one.

54:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.

54:18 Speaker 3: My grandmother's cousin at the time, my pastor had just been divorced. She wanted pastor okay, she's trying to get in his good graces.

54:25 Speaker 2: So she goes and she.

54:26 Speaker 3: Tells him, you know, the choreographer for the Praise Dance Ministry not doing the dances that I'll tell her to dance. Okay, my mother has to work this particular Sunday. So the cod choreographer assistant coach, if you will, is handling the dance.

54:39 Speaker 1: We dance.

54:40 Speaker 3: We leave out that pastor gets up in the pulpit and says, I want y'all to be careful who y'all take instructions from. When I put somebody over a ministry or in an auxiliary, that's the person you take instruction from. You listen to anybody else, and they could be leading you straight to hell. Now my mama leading to people straight to hell.

54:58 Speaker 1: Girl.

54:59 Speaker 3: My mother said, oh, let me show you something called in them lawyers. We left the church, everything then moved on, you know, to a different one.

55:05 Speaker 2: But I say that to say, in all.

55:07 Speaker 3: Of those spaces in the non denominational church, I was well past the age of sixteen before women who served the ministries could wear something non denominational.

55:16 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm in processing in therapy for the last fifteen years. Had some big major milestones. This last couple of years, though, I mean the last couple of weeks and months ago. Guys, really good. I love that that really did. But I just don't think that the nuances in that space is allowed the same before us, especially considering Andy Cohen asked, we're going to address both women in the same reunion, and we opened the show with telling Heather how well done her documentary was. And I decided it if I wasn't gonna watch Mary's, I wasn't gonna watch Heathers because I thought that was going to really upset me even more.

55:51 Speaker 1: And I'm glad I did because the complete difference in one eighty of the questions of I just thought, how are you doing? It was well received? Oh that's so good. I thought it was well done. You did great. And then Mary, what are your thoughts in response, like to your being called a cult? I said, oh, wow, this is we're gonna We're gonna do this within I'm glad you're breaking it up into two parts.

56:10 Speaker 2: My thing is.

56:13 Speaker 3: Mary, Mary should have said more, and I hope she says more at the end, because she said more on that first.

56:18 Speaker 2: Season when the allegation started. You feel what I'm saying.

56:21 Speaker 3: But I also understand that it's a damned if you do, damned if yeah type situation.

56:26 Speaker 2: Yeah.

56:27 Speaker 1: I think she's focused on her life and her son and she doesn't want to fight a losing battle. And some people just seem like they're committed to misunderstanding. And these are most people. They're committed misunderstanding. But it's like, for me, it's like the rush to take down the one black woman on this white woman show. It's is like, can you calm down, like, can you calm down? Let her live. It's not our fault. It's not who gives a ship that people like her. They also like the other ones to calm down.

56:53 Speaker 1: It's a successful show. People be so mad that Mary is like on there and likable. They were so mad Garcelle was on there and likable. They're just so mad. Do not want their her white snow like tany to calm down? It's just Mary.

57:10 Speaker 2: First of all, Mary better than me because.

57:13 Speaker 3: Most of them they said that Mary's great.

57:16 Speaker 1: She said nice things about the ladies too. This episode she did.

57:20 Speaker 3: They said in the documentary that Mary's grandmother walked from.

57:26 Speaker 2: Indiana to Salt Lake City, Utah.

57:29 Speaker 3: She walked when she wasn't walking, she was hitch hiking with her I believe four kids.

57:35 Speaker 1: Okay.

57:36 Speaker 2: Then she gets there, she starts the church.

57:39 Speaker 3: She's then traveling back to Indiana doing like church services there and basically calling souls to Christ and bringing them to her church in Utah. Now she starts bringing over an influx of black people, and she notices there's no place for them to get their hair done in Salt Lake City, so she opens a hair salon the first black owned hair Salona St.

58:00 Speaker 2: Lake City.

58:00 Speaker 3: Then she notices it's no place for them to get the cuisine that they like to eat, so she opens a restaurant. If I was married, I would be on there. Reminded the people of that don't watch your mouth right.

58:13 Speaker 2: You can think whatever you think, you can understand whatever you do or don't understand about no church. But when it comes to my.

58:18 Speaker 3: Grandmother, the woman who did x y z x y z x y z xyz and then left me in charge, you, no matter how you feel about it, shut up.

58:24 Speaker 1: See That's how I know Mary saved and more saved than me. That's why I know. That's why he answered, He called her first and foremost past to Mary, because she came into this, I said, Mary's God she had a conversation with Jesus recently, because I too would have been like, what you're not gonna do is trying to damage and destroy what this is. You ain't built nothing before, so you may not know. But and I mean, and I'm like, and I feel that way because I came from a church that had all of those things.

58:52 Speaker 1: I understand that you build it in your community, also what your people need. Because I've been in spaces and places where no one knows that I am there or is are committed to making sure I don't feel like I belong there. And I've been in spaces where I didn't feel that at all, and I felt like I could be one hundred percent myself and there was nobody else there to the point where I did not. I mean I rarely ever tell people this, but like I did not really know what or who a white person was for some years into my childhood.

59:26 Speaker 1: That would seem unbelievable. I saw them a little bit on TV. But because of how deeply entrenched I was in the church, the Black Mega Church, I went to the Black Megachurch Christian School. I was at the Black Megachurch six to seven days a week, before care, aftercare, daycare, all the cares. I was like, I've learned Bible songs and scriptures. I did not watch TV or see them. Yes, maybe there are that many black people in a black megachurch twenty something.

59:56 Speaker 3: K Sure, I'm going to tell you part of my Lord when we're done with some years. But the principle of my school inside of the church is somebody's mama that we all know in pop culture.

1:00:10 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we'll talk later. For myself, I just love I love that. I love that. But like I what I will do is say that I can you can like Mary and you can like Salt Lakes. You can like Salt Lake City and let people like Mary and you can understand that we're watching the same show and it is also just that good. I can say it's an ensemble past that is very good. I have a lot of notes and thoughts on Lisa. I thought they did a nice package on Brahmin. I thought they took some nice hits at Lisa. Can he address some things as as a baby gorgeous myself and I was like, damn, y'all committed to making me.

1:00:45 Speaker 2: Lawsuits. He was like, explain them what okay?

1:00:50 Speaker 1: Relate? Like, I thought they did a nice, a good a good amount of stuff. They have had a big moment in pop culture. But Julia Roberts can like Salt Lake City and Mary can also be on the show and two things can exist. It's okay, it's okay. I just don't understand this takedown always of like the lone black person, and really it's trickling through the lone person of color period on the Lily White Show because not y'all just got rid of Katie too over.

1:01:16 Speaker 2: The Mary on Salt Lake, Ebony on New York, they don't bullied. Ebony's so bad they made him reboot the whole show because what and why were here?

1:01:28 Speaker 3: What would make Ramona think that it was a good idea to get up on that table and start stumping around talking about something.

1:01:33 Speaker 2: I want to have fun, That's what I want to know.

1:01:34 Speaker 1: It would make Ramona think anything that don't she doesn't think, and that's that was a parent and everybody was uncomfortable, and I saw loss. I saw lawsuits for emotional distressing coming in somebody's future if I was an attendee, and I haven't been able to watch your stomach the idea of New York since y'all really ruined a good thing, trying to just not not sitting people down and letting them know it's okay for you to like people who or white, and also let other people be on there too.

1:02:04 Speaker 3: Stop brought race into it?

1:02:09 Speaker 1: Did she no pause? Keviny walked down the stairs of Soon in You townhouse, and Sonya immediately took her to the pond and told her all the fish couldn't swim together in thirty eight seconds. I still have my notes from when I recorded that episode because I was flabbergasted, flapper gasted when she took her by hand to the pond and said, do you see them all different colors swimming in the pond and they're just so it's so beautiful, something like like with doctor King would on it. Don't let me get the lion.

1:02:46 Speaker 1: But like I was like, who brought rac into it? Evanie was like, you're saying she brought racing too it because she was black. Y'all are saying Mary brought race in her cold or her church up into it because what we haven't seen it. I'm not looking at it, y'all make it about this. I'm not watching that. I'm over here looking at like the other stuff. And I'm like, that can be true. You can leave Mary alone because we actually don't have She didn't do nothing this season to me, like she was a chorus and I had a nice time watching her make you know, funny faces and laugh with me.

1:03:20 Speaker 1: During the Sisters Assault performance, I too was laughing, so when they paying to her laughing, I thought that was funny. However, exactly I was like but however, we had a lot more fish to fry than like Mary at all. So I just don't understand why all this focus and attention to make the second episode is about our church all of a sudden, and it's because of this documentary thing that has made me roll my eyes since the moment y'all announced it, And I just really had to get my thoughts off on that, because really, what I don't know and what I don't love is that we started in on Lisa real, real bad and real quick man.

1:03:57 Speaker 1: But she was ready. Lisa took on to judas energy this this reunion. She said, Baby, I'm.

1:04:04 Speaker 3: Ready give Judice it's given. We getting ready to watch the down for all of Lisa, and I don't think I want to see that.

1:04:13 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Okay, so what did you think? You thought that because they get a nice package. She is a intense what is she as sad? I think she said capricor what is she?

1:04:25 Speaker 2: I don't know what.

1:04:26 Speaker 1: She's a secretariust, but she's an intense one, she is, and it's hard for her to understand what people are saying to her and accept that bad criticism. But boy did they present it. It was a lot of things to consider. They really did she owes the man, but it did seem like the ladies on the couch also are committed to humbling her in a way that feels pretty uniquely like ridiculous, Like Lisa looked delusional on her own. They y'all really want to humble her bad bad talking about some not just calling out the double team and the and the talking for each other, because yes they're both doing that, but the amount of like it looks like like we just don't know what you do.

1:05:04 Speaker 1: It's like y'all trying to make her look like Genshaw. And I don't think that's where we're at, or it would be a criminal case.

1:05:09 Speaker 3: Calm down, think, I don't think the I don't think it would give Genshaw.

1:05:14 Speaker 1: If we say they're the ones introducing that thought.

1:05:17 Speaker 2: I feel like it would give more windy you do if we were to see it.

1:05:21 Speaker 3: I feel like that's the way that it would go, not necessarily a Genshaw.

1:05:24 Speaker 2: That being said, first of all, can't.

1:05:27 Speaker 3: Lisa Barlow got Beverly Hill's credit. She got Straw's The Sunset credit. Lisa been around in these Bravo spaces and as a PR manager and rep like, and I don't like that for anybody. We don't have to like the characters, but let's not diminish the work that they put in.

1:05:43 Speaker 1: That's number right. I was really mad to have her. I agree with Lisa when she was like, if you you've been to my events, don't do that talking about I don't know what you give.

1:05:52 Speaker 3: Also, though you know what I'm saying, I don't have six hundred and ninety three lawsuits against me. Now, I don't have nobody that would say who's who's paying your credit card bill?

1:06:03 Speaker 2: Right? In fact, it's quite the opposite.

1:06:04 Speaker 3: People be like, oh, we know, we know your husband, we know your husband.

1:06:08 Speaker 1: I mean, that's Lebramo was saying. It's like, yeah, I suck my husband's dick to get my credit card paid for it, But like nobody's saying for yours. You suck your husband's dick allegedly, and no one's paying for your credit card. That's sad.

1:06:20 Speaker 3: Or do you sucking somebody else's other than seth Because Okay, but what I'm saying is just like the Whitney Houston crack allegations, we did not pull them from thin air where there's smoke there is fire.

1:06:33 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah. Karen did say you have to make millions to old millions. That is always sat with me.

1:06:39 Speaker 2: I don't know if she was making it, but she said no.

1:06:41 Speaker 1: But my thing is, you have to make millions to old millions because you spent millions. So like you, Coulter made it. I'm not doubting that you made it. I'm also acknowledging that then where is it because it seems like you might have spent it and that's why you owe it. So the accomplishment is not in the making it. It's in it gets balanced like even down and then negative by you owing it. You gotta keep it, but you keep it, and then it's like, wow, you.

1:07:05 Speaker 2: Kept it and been in the same suit since we met.

1:07:08 Speaker 1: Y'all, and you're not been in the same house. You can't keep up with a pay for a house or was it not that?

1:07:14 Speaker 2: Or a car?

1:07:14 Speaker 1: It's interesting, interesting, And let me tell y'all something. I don't know what it is, but like everybody in Virginia, like Northern Virginia has a maserati right now so or for the last few years. So I don't think that's the flex that she thinks it is because there's just so many Masarati shops. I think they're all like renting UM or Lisa Num or something. Shout out to them. I just don't.

1:07:32 Speaker 2: Everybody got a Cadillac an Escalade.

1:07:35 Speaker 1: Everybody right like it's the current car right now of the Nova areas, Tesla's, cyber trucks and Maserati's. It's like all I have to avoid in the streets, that in the ice in the cops every day. Shout out to DC anyway, it's moving on over. Yeah, they decided to gonna go ahead and hand Lisa her things. You know when Lisa told y'all she just want you how to call her a baddie and not talk about her just like be like, I'm a baddie who's also a professional and I'm so good at it. I love you here to.

1:08:03 Speaker 3: Talk about my professions. Let's just in the words of Mary, let's just eat, drink and be.

1:08:07 Speaker 1: That I do. Yeah. My thing is also y'all want to talk about Lisa a lot, a lot a lot Like Andy started the reunion with this, this is where we started, and they are staying here. When Maredith tried to kick us off in the first ninety seconds, he barely finished saying hello. In fact, I thought he didn't finish saying hello to everybody. But Meredith was like, I want to know from wet neeg if you would like to tell everyone about how you completely reneged everything that you said about me at Bravo Coon because you were and the nastiness when you were drunk and said that.

1:08:46 Speaker 1: But also, if she's drunk, is it a renee.

1:08:49 Speaker 3: A popular castmate? Go six seasons, no down fall, keep winning? Who did a six season run?

1:08:56 Speaker 1: Nobody other than me?

1:08:59 Speaker 3: Exactly wh why Nini is regarded the way she is who else is? And when I say a sixth season rue, I mean at the end of every season, Lisa get a new sponsorship. We done sung Christmas songs, we got a new song this season. We got the Windy's thing, we got the Diet Coke commercial, we got the lights all commercial.

1:09:18 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about an Gie and all the things too, because I loved out Angie.

1:09:22 Speaker 2: See.

1:09:23 Speaker 1: The reason why I like Salt Lake City Works is because not just Mary, all of them are delusional, big bull delusional, like so delusional. When y'all they're so mad, at leasten to see her flaws, and I see that it's easy to see is someone else's flaws, and I see the speck in your own eye? Obviously, because Annie asked her a simple question, do you think you would trolling Lisa when you literally said I've got franchise and franchise like at the Arby's commercial and tequila partnership. No, I don't think it's trolling.

1:09:56 Speaker 1: I can see how it would look like that. Oh, because it is. I mean, I'm not mad at but you get the cooked bag. Arby's needs the bullet, so don't. I've never seen a customer at Arby's, but I do love this for her. But I know y'all keep them in business.

1:10:13 Speaker 2: I used to like them Halopeno poppers. I don't know if they still taste the same as they did back.

1:10:18 Speaker 1: And then I haven't gone, and more than I haven't.

1:10:20 Speaker 3: Been to an arby since before I was pregnant with my daughter, and my daughter is over a decade old. But exactly, they used to have these halopeno poppers with the halopeno and cream cheese. Because I don't like the poppers with cheddar cheese. I like the poppers with cream cheese. This one had cream cheese. Then they had a Java milkshake.

1:10:38 Speaker 1: I need it. I don't have a job of milkshake any day. Absolutely, it was good to the soul. Yeah, just sounds good to the soul. Honestly, if I want to slurp that down, I feel like Browin would have that after she finishes doing her Galt dick sucking versus.

1:10:52 Speaker 2: You need something to change, then you would.

1:10:54 Speaker 1: And also don't be mad at least And then it went viral. That was funny, it was it was I thought Brahmin's response was also great. I think let them have that moment. I thought that was actually a really good one, and I think that's okay. However, apparently they had a real, real, real truth for a moment. But I think that she was just like sad that that was happening. And that was then they had.

1:11:16 Speaker 2: Made me so mad because I was like, okay, gird bye.

1:11:18 Speaker 1: That was down lying. Yeah what house. I don't believe house. I should have truces. That's my that's my hot tape. I don't think you should have a truce. I think that makes it inauthentic. I think you.

1:11:30 Speaker 3: Should just have to not be reminded to stay off of the husband and the kids.

1:11:35 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the problem is really sick kid.

1:11:40 Speaker 2: Is filming with us on the show, and your kid is over the age of eighteen.

1:11:44 Speaker 1: Yeah they suck. Yeah, that's fine, that's different. And Marredith be real big on y'all to talk about her grown adult children who are.

1:11:54 Speaker 3: Like Danny over there on Beyonna Gate.

1:12:00 Speaker 2: This is about our girls. Your kids are fifty and fifty seven.

1:12:03 Speaker 1: Oh no, please calm down. Meredith was on the trip like it's Mother's Day and I won't be able to talk to my chill Drett on Mother's Day. I just wanted to have a nice Mother's Day where I talk to my Childred and my mom don't even answer my call on Mother's Day sometimes. She I really got away for that lady to call me back.

1:12:24 Speaker 2: For Mother's Day every year. I want silent.

1:12:26 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm an adult. She said, you don't need to talk to me. So it just it was really funny. But I really found that interesting. And that leads us also to Braunwyn, who the dirty old man with the alleged gout deck that Brounwin likes to suck or maybe not anymore. We're gonna get to that in episode two or part two of this readion. Apparently we know in the real world or in real time that broun Went and Todd are separated, but she heavy on calling him her husband throughout this thing. I know that she's she's taking the Kenya more approach where she's like, I'm not taking it off until i'm mayor I'm get fully divorced, and he is my husband even though we're separated and we're working through because she really did.

1:13:08 Speaker 1: She showed us, or at least how she portrayed on the show was to be in it until the wheels fell off at the very very end.

1:13:15 Speaker 3: And legal is always watching. I'm alwaysoted wife until the ink is signed. What you mean that's my husband?

1:13:24 Speaker 2: I love him? Get on this TV and say something bad about him?

1:13:26 Speaker 1: Why would I? I mean, she's still yelling at least to stop talking about my husband fifteen minutes later. So Todd and I are separated, Okay, sure, yeah, because it was really just big like f me over that man five seconds ago. But you're talking about you, Okay, So what happened? So I think that it's going to be interesting to confront that with her. But I think that they definitely started the groundwork early, being like, well, since Lisa broke the truth talking about your husband, Andy's like, so, anyway, she doing her job for me.

1:14:03 Speaker 1: That's the thing about for Lake City. It produces itself, and he is not doing much of the work. And that must be why I didn't notice that he wasn't asking no questions and they were really just running themselves because Lisa's talking about problem is how and was not the alley to be like, oh, yeah, hey, Todd, what's going on with that? Like, oh, because Lisa already did that, that's so interesting. I don't think that we should have truces on housewives. I think it works like friendship contracts.

1:14:32 Speaker 1: I think you get what you get. And I think if we just focus on being either friends with these people or not, I think, what is up with Heather being a pick me talking about to Lisa you're an important friend, but you're not a good friend, then how is she important? I've never heard such bird language before The Big Girl. What I don't in the day was the Big Girl.

1:14:55 Speaker 2: She had adjacency the popular cruise because she had friends and their.

1:15:00 Speaker 3: Sides, But she did you watch his and hers? Yes, the heavy set friend.

1:15:04 Speaker 1: Yes, that was Heather.

1:15:06 Speaker 3: Okay, so what we see now and this is why sometimes read in the housewives fulfilled this hard right, because you have to see people for who they are in their humanity.

1:15:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course I love that approach.

1:15:18 Speaker 3: I can see this person who just lost weight, just got in the skin that they wanted.

1:15:25 Speaker 2: To be in now like the girls they wanted to be like.

1:15:29 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I don't think at her core Heather is a mean girl.

1:15:34 Speaker 2: I think at.

1:15:34 Speaker 3: Her core Heather is a hurt girl. Heather got some unresolved things that she needs to work through, and behavior type of friend that Heather would have gravitated to, would have wanted attention from when she.

1:15:49 Speaker 2: Was a bigger girl high school. However, you want to.

1:15:52 Speaker 1: Say it was the friend and she wanted that attention from and all the.

1:15:56 Speaker 2: Rus she's done the things.

1:15:58 Speaker 3: Heather is got the money cause Heather, like her husband was good, but she didn't come in with Leisa.

1:16:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's got she did her own thing. I do think that she's money now, respectable in that way, love.

1:16:08 Speaker 2: A certain size.

1:16:09 Speaker 3: So to Heather, it's not clicking why Lisa still won't let her in. She's checked all the boxes and so now just watching her be mean because.

1:16:18 Speaker 1: Because Lisa is self absorbed and she'd been told you that, and you gotta stop expecting her to be a same, non transactional friend and not expect complete loyalty from you and not to be checked. You know that you expect it to be different, like you got some deep relationship with Lisa, when I'm like, unless you'll know something we don't, I don't think there is that much deeper to Lisa that you will ever have access to, no more than we will. So I don't understand why you don't understand. That's always been my thing.

1:16:46 Speaker 1: It's like they mad at Lisa, but they want her to be her friends so bad, and that is why it forces me to like relook and be like, so maybe I can't hate this lady because y'all think she's also the shit. You're over there on your couch telling her your job, Oh, this, that, but you're also like she I don't think she's a good friend, but I think she is an important friend. Like you're yelling at us how important it is to you to keep Lisa Barlow as your friend, although all I see is Lisa being like, yeah, you just spent the last thirty minutes bashing me and telling me all the ways that I'm fucked up.

1:17:23 Speaker 1: You want to humble me. It was literally like the season finale all over again, where they were like, either you sit down and figure it out with us and be humbled by us and with us, or you get out and we'll never be friends with you again. And she's like, Lisa is like, when did I ever tell y'all I could be told what to do? I really want to know, and I care about anybody else.

1:17:43 Speaker 3: No, I loved I really really thought every episode that was. And she was like, I'm so sick of y'all telling me what to do. Don't talk to me like that. And she knocked the wine over.

1:17:52 Speaker 1: Yes.

1:17:52 Speaker 3: I loved when she like literally broke from telling Whitney offs to be like that was a mistake.

1:17:57 Speaker 2: I was not throwing wine like yeah.

1:18:00 Speaker 1: She was like, what you're not gonna do is flip this.

1:18:03 Speaker 2: We can argue, we can stay on topic. My hand knocked that down.

1:18:06 Speaker 3: I was not shoving wine at her like I will buy you a new dress.

1:18:10 Speaker 1: She said, of course she will. And Heather's over there. You want to talk about you always want to talk about how rich you are, and you're talking about her money right now. But then also, she's an important friend, so why not protect her in any way. She's such an important friend that you're joining in the opportunity to exploit her and expecting her to be like, thank you, I want to be your best friend. Let me let's cozy up and bring each other's hair. You're being a mean girl, yeah, like you can't get if anything, Lisa looks the part, but you're acting the part.

1:18:37 Speaker 1: Y'all at two sounds at the same point to me, Heather.

1:18:40 Speaker 2: Has always been the mean girl. She's just had the blonde hair and the eyes. Did you see Monica reality von teeth?

1:18:46 Speaker 1: Uh huh girl on the internet.

1:18:49 Speaker 2: We'll just leave that there.

1:18:50 Speaker 1: Receives proof timeless And you.

1:18:52 Speaker 2: Know I reached out to you. I said, girl, come on the podcast.

1:18:55 Speaker 1: Well yes I did see. I did see you say that. I say, she's a great safe face. Come on over. But I want to listen, you know, I want to not take any of that responsibility, but I'll listen, Okay, Like I'm all im all in on it because I think they all have skeletons and they all have their things. I mean, it was amazingly delusional to me that Heather was asked how they think that the below Deck footage will look when the reverse airs later. I wish we would have seen it by now, but I know it would have taken too much from their reunion currently.

1:19:23 Speaker 1: She was like, I think we're great, grass girl. What do you you think? So tell me why you do. So they recorded on the boat at the same time, Yes, and Heather was literally like, I didn't even notice that they were recording a show. I just thought we were getting a good discount on our belt because essentially they went on this yacht. It was Heather's trip, she chartered it. I think she was presented the opportunity to partner with Below Deck, but she did not think that because it was the below Deck yacht and crew that I guess they would be working.

1:19:53 Speaker 1: You think they want to spend their free time working for girl. No, they're on a TV show. And she so andy when he asked her, what did you think about the filming like or being letting another show's boat or another boat's show, like another show take the lead? So really, below Deck was filming their show and the sub footage is what we got from the smaller crew or whatever was like also filmed from below deck, but their show was in season that was the prime situation, and that was like, we're so used to having the cameras.

1:20:22 Speaker 1: Pretentious sinks are number one. We're so used to having the cameras that we didn't even like notice. So why are y'all Mat and Lisa Barla for saying I live at different lives and all of you? Because you want to also say we let the same aloof life till that's what it is your madgest She don't include she don't include you in her delusion. But you're delusional too, she I don't.

1:20:43 Speaker 2: Know, she's so delusional.

1:20:44 Speaker 3: Let me let me tell you when I realized Blisa is really delusional in real life and I love.

1:20:49 Speaker 1: It, knows it well, like that's okay, but.

1:20:52 Speaker 2: Like, no, she lives this, but I didn't.

1:20:54 Speaker 3: I always loved it, right, but I didn't realize how much I loved it until I realized how authentic it was. So we go to the premiere for this season of Salt Lake City in New York, right, Mary Cosby, Meredith Marx, Lisa Barlow are the.

1:21:08 Speaker 2: Castmates to that attend.

1:21:10 Speaker 3: We were able to Bravo invited me out so we were able to take pictures in all them. So I talked to Mary, I talked to Meredith Cool. I walk up.

1:21:17 Speaker 2: I say to Meredith, I'm so happy you didn't disengage this season.

1:21:20 Speaker 3: We have our banter. As we're having our banter, Lisa is literally.

1:21:24 Speaker 2: Like, you are so gorgeous. Thank you. So it's like you walk this way them, you take your picture, you come off stage. So then somebody else with the team told me that I was pretty or whatever, and I was like, thank you. It's such hard work, like being this gorgeous.

1:21:39 Speaker 3: Lisa literally is taking a picture with another content creator. She leans over and she goes, no, it's not we wake up like this. She was like, don't you dare say as well, it's literally effortless. Yes, And I looked at Lisa.

1:21:51 Speaker 2: I said, you know what, You're.

1:21:53 Speaker 1: Right, You're right, you're right. Why don't I listen as me? Lisa, thank you for reminding. Oh my god, but the affirmations when you need it.

1:22:05 Speaker 2: Like, no, it's not hard work, this is effortless. This is who you are. You wake up like this.

1:22:08 Speaker 3: In that moment, I really was like, you literally believe, like you buy everything that you sell, which makes it authentic, which is like, I'm even.

1:22:17 Speaker 1: More thank you. That's why I like her. And it's hard for me to understand and and sit with Heather and Angie and them yelling at Lisa for being everything that they also are and saying like, well, why doesn't she admit it because she doesn't think she's doing anything wrong. You're admitting to being inauthentic or whatever, Like I don't know what that.

1:22:37 Speaker 3: Is, but it's just like Lisa, like I don't subscribe to Salt Lake City, like I'm a New Yorker.

1:22:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, like, how long have you been here? You're from Salt Lake City. Also, don't tell me where I'm from. Fuck you. I'm sorry, that says somebody who's lived in too many places, but it was without my consent. I'm a D and V girl, born and raised. I'm from PG County. You will never take that from me, even when I live somewhere else longer than the time I lived in PG County. That's because I'm an adult and I have a choice. But it's where I'm from. That's where our heart is from. Least is like because I've lived here for as long as I've been married, or like in an adult tell me where I'm from, Heather be quiet.

1:23:15 Speaker 2: From New Jersey but also Georgia at the.

1:23:17 Speaker 1: Same time, you know where I'm from. Where you want to be with that? If Dree can have an accent and be from Connecticut, you can be from New York though you've lived in years.

1:23:28 Speaker 2: She literally like, that's her accent.

1:23:31 Speaker 1: Love, Yeah, I mean I love that. She also attributed it to PK when we first met her. Though we met her parents this season, and I was like, you could just save them. They've gotten it.

1:23:44 Speaker 3: Then she would have to claim more than just her whiteness if she claimed her accent from her parents.

1:23:50 Speaker 1: I mean, just take the Hilario route or Hillary in them. How do you say, be comeber? You don't you like you want? She want to be there because her parents bought a vacation home. There do we got parents that actually got a whole accent? She talking about, well, when you've left all over the world with Piquet, you can have any accent you want, No, but your parents actually have an accent. This is actually yes. But also there you go, girl, there are white Africans everywhere. I actually just watch no I know that, but I no, no, no, no, I'm talking like to d like, calm down.

1:24:27 Speaker 1: Look, you can still be white and be from Egypt. It's okay. I'm not gonna take your whiteness from you. No one's ever trying to calm down, you know.

1:24:35 Speaker 3: I've actually I've met a bunch of Egyptians, but I've never even met the same like skin type me neither.

1:24:42 Speaker 1: And I've met a un Egyptian.

1:24:43 Speaker 2: That I've ever met or been like introduced to.

1:24:46 Speaker 1: I have always been a shock to me, been like really that is awesome. Look at tell me more. Love the bread. Listen, when you're talking to a tourist. To talk to a tourist is to know that we are I'm a tolerant individual. I love everybody. I have a good soul. But I also love all your food. I want your I want to eat it. I want to eat all I love to eat, and I love luxury and most of the rest of the world's got some good, luxurious things and some good food to go with it, so I'm always in on it. Okay.

1:25:19 Speaker 1: That's again why I'm so shocked that I love this Lily White show Salt Lake City, And that's why we like Bravo for what it does give to us. Is like watching these white ladies yell at each other again, let me have that Mary is sitting over there, unmothered, and let Heather and Lisa and Angie yell at each other about all doing the same exact thing to.

1:25:42 Speaker 2: Each other to be in the white people's drama.

1:25:45 Speaker 3: When I first started watching His and Hers, I was like, oh, I'm here, I'm in the white people's drama, black girl, I love it. And then the episodes kept going and I was like, who's business am I in?

1:25:59 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm one episode four. I still don't know whose business?

1:26:02 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, I mean why I watch Hunting Wives. I was like, this is nothing to do with me. I don't live there. I'm not a white woman Republican. I'm not, you know, held by the bounds that I can't be who I am. But let me watch y'all do this navigate his life and end adress on a brawl. Damn. Okay, tell me moa. So I love to watch them do that and look pretty doing it, But like, I think that as much as you know, we everybody is watching this exact same show and experiencing different levels of like delusion and how they are perceiving it.

1:26:36 Speaker 1: Julia Roberts having any thoughts or opinions on this show. I definitely thought one that she was too serious of a lady to be watching this show. I think that a lot about Housewives, and I'm shocked every time. But I'm also using that as my fuel and ammunition to my family. Like see told you, respectable all Rose lead to reality TV Housewives. It's not some silly little housewives show. Shut mouth, it's good pop culture television. This is an icon. This is pop culture lexicon happening in real time.

1:27:08 Speaker 1: I'm watching it. Don't tell me I'm not. Julia Roberts agree she is an artist.

1:27:14 Speaker 3: Before we get out of here, I would love your thoughts. And Bluetooth's mama clapping back at Jill Scott for saying that. Jill for saying that Bluetooth and Croissant were her favorite like guilty pleasure and that Bluetooth is Croissant's pimp.

1:27:32 Speaker 2: Look at the face.

1:27:33 Speaker 1: First of all. First of all, Chissant is actually one of my guilty pleasures. All right, all right, I just wanted you to don't I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I actually just got it real the other day. Algorithm to me of like catered as this event and this is and it was a beautiful setup and it didn't last. I will be sending it to you very soon to very much so counter at this bit of you know, Lily whiteness of like that's my guilty blushion too, I think. So listen when it comes to the allegations of those people.

1:28:11 Speaker 1: One, what you just said doesn't even not make sense to anything can be Drew. I believe that more than I believe that again, that Mary is clocked into this season. I thought she didn't know who Julia Roberts even would be. Honestly, if you watch Mary's social media, you don't think she's with us, and I think that's fine.

1:28:29 Speaker 3: You listen to Mary talk, I don't think she's with us. And that is the only question. I have two questions as it pertains to Mary. Two and two only are the businesses in Salt Lake City thriving that much that it's funding for properties?

1:28:41 Speaker 2: Second question is girl, what like are.

1:28:45 Speaker 1: You more than Whitney and them? Like?

1:28:47 Speaker 3: Is you here with us now, but no a Bluetooth mama tried. She got on that internet and cuts Jill Scott out was talking to Jill Scott like she was actually Shila from the Tyler Perry Show, and was like, don't you call her baby?

1:28:59 Speaker 2: No, no pimp? And you need to find out to be losing.

1:29:04 Speaker 1: Weight with most of what is going on and in her son's life, it's hard for them. While I have you here before we get out of here, what are your thoughts on Charissa's son and Ashley Darby legedly hooking up. Some women think she's a hole for this. It's pretty much everyone who's spoken out, including Mia Thornton, and I was, I was like, how she Oh, she must have saw this on that TV she.

1:29:28 Speaker 3: Took Allegedly, you had to be you had to be a low down, dirty scoundrel for a scoundrel to come up and be like, that's a scoundrel.

1:29:35 Speaker 2: That's number one?

1:29:37 Speaker 3: Really And not only did she speak out about it, Mia said that Ashley told everybody years ago when nobody.

1:29:43 Speaker 1: Cared, Okay, there you go.

1:29:45 Speaker 3: Ashley is immatured to me, and so yes, as per her maturity level, I absolutely get why she would even think it was a good idea to put her tongue in the mouth of a little boy that she has known since.

1:29:58 Speaker 2: Before he was grown.

1:30:01 Speaker 3: And I struggled on grown because don't kiss my eighteen year old kid, that that eighteen twenty one.

1:30:07 Speaker 2: I get that you are an adult, but.

1:30:09 Speaker 1: Because she believes she was an adult and making all the same ghost choices, Gary good, and that she was approached and.

1:30:19 Speaker 2: When I was twenty, that's her bar is fucked.

1:30:23 Speaker 1: So yeah, but that's not that doesn't mean what you think it means. It's more like a exactly And that dirty old man shouldn't have talked to you either, not saying you're a dirty old girl, it's just it's giving you.

1:30:38 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say that while her tongue was down that boys stoke, she should have been working on some vocal lessons. How dare you get up on this screen every chance you give?

1:30:46 Speaker 2: Give it?

1:30:46 Speaker 1: That's why she couldn't sing.

1:30:48 Speaker 2: Hen gave a struck.

1:30:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you know those young kids. She's in the school, and it was.

1:30:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm your coffee to your milk, because I like milk and my coffee whatever.

1:30:58 Speaker 1: That song was coffee and Love. I remember that one. She was doing that. Please someone let me know if they ever got rid of that space. There's been a minute since I've been in Clarendon, but for far longer than it should eat. In the last two years, it's still been there, unoccupied the OZ their restaurant, just sitting with the kangaroo in print on the doll. Can't miss a kangaroo in Virginia. Hoe, You're gonna You're gonna see it and notice it every time. But hey, I just had to know, because that's that's a choice.

1:31:29 Speaker 1: You know. How housewives get their bag and stay on this show is something I'll never judge. I'll leave it to these ladies, I guess sitting on these couches to judge each other for all the different ways that they get on with each other. They got on this show. They fight with each other. They do all these weird things for this reason, so that we will talk about them and they can stay on it. Because for everything you accused Lisa doing, we're gonna talk about Bronin doing it next week two, on that next season or that next reunion.

1:31:58 Speaker 1: Park. I know that you won't always be watching, and there's appointment of television, but will you be tuned in to part two.

1:32:03 Speaker 3: No, so my thing is I always watch it, right, But you know as well as I know being in this Bravo space for five years and feeling almost like overlooked under yeah, and not even just overlooked, but like it's not fun exactly to a certain degree. And it's like I started off making Bravo content exclusively. I think I was creating content for less than six months before Lisa Renna found me reposted me to her page.

1:32:32 Speaker 2: She eventually didn't like me and she blocked me. But that's a different girl.

1:32:37 Speaker 1: We've traveled those roads.

1:32:38 Speaker 3: At a point, every every review that I did was an easy two hundred thousand views in the clip. And to be at a point, the last Bravo event that I was at, I literally like essentially begged, Like I made a post and was like, oh my god, like why doesn't anybody invite me to this? And I won't name drop, but I tagged the names, you know what I mean, and then boom, I was invited. Nobody nobody even tried to invite me to try, Like, I get no invites to these things, and I yield my time to shows that sometimes aren't good shows.

1:33:07 Speaker 3: It sometimes are triggering, and it's like, if I'm going to watch something for content, there has to be some sort of return on investment. And the truth of the matter is shameless plug. I watch Be on the Gates. Jasmin Bird, who plays June and Be on the Gates will be on my podcast this Monday, I talk pop culture and all of that. The Jazzmine brand or Jasmine brand from the Jazzmine brand will be on my podcast in February. There are other places where I kind of, like, in the words of Lady London, cast my bait out in the fish Bite.

1:33:42 Speaker 3: Bravo just isn't one of those places. As a black girl in America, I don't need you to remind me on a regular basis that I'm black and that that means something to you.

1:33:53 Speaker 1: Oh ta okay, Yeah, so.

1:33:55 Speaker 2: Yes, I watch it. I pick and truth like I'm recapping.

1:34:00 Speaker 1: It. I mean, that's usually what I ask people is what are you watching that makes you feel good? I think that, like, outside of this, make it no secret that I do this for literally like a job. It is something that I enjoy doing for a job, like I enjoy talking about these shows because these ladies have entertained and are entertaining, and I love the community of people that listen. But I do this also for y'all. The moment everybody stops listening, I ain't gonna be watching no appointment television.

1:34:25 Speaker 1: It's okay, and it's no love all.

1:34:28 Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying. And so there are people watching.

1:34:30 Speaker 3: But again, to what avail, there's other spaces where I can cast that net and get something back.

1:34:35 Speaker 2: I haven't.

1:34:36 Speaker 3: They wouldn't even let me in to the media verse. I applied to the media verse and then they were like, well, what shows do you want? I was like, well, currently, I'm chatting married to Medicine. I've talked to most all of the cast members. They're on my page. Okay, well we'll see, we'll check their availability. But I'm like, no, I recap shows like let me into the media verse.

1:34:53 Speaker 1: So well, honey, where can they listen to you talk to the people who do pay the respect and the flowers they you do because you be doing the word I watch I'm brief balel all the time. This is actually news to me. So where can they find you? Get involved and make sure that you're continuing to be able to cover the things that we watching. I'm enjoying it.

1:35:14 Speaker 3: So you can follow me at brief by L, TikTok YouTube. I'd be a little slow putting my YouTube shorts up, but TikTok YouTube, Instagram, threads is normally my playground, same name brief by L. If you want to get into the podcast, I partnered with Women for the Culture. So the podcast, the Women's Room airs over there, and it's essentially, you know, when you go out, you're hanging out with your friends, you go to the girls room, the ladies room, whatever you call it, and you fix your lipstick and you, oh, girl, let me tell you that man was like, you know, you drop secrets, you drop tea in the women's room.

1:35:45 Speaker 3: A lot of tea is spilled over there. But it's also a very safe space. So that's the feeling that we are trying to give the conversation that we're trying to have. We normally spend about the first twenty to thirty minutes talking to whoever the guest is about how they got here wherever here is for them, and then we go in to cover whatever happened that week in pop culture. So if you want to go listen, it's up. It's called the Women's Room. It's on Women for the Culture on Facebook or YouTube, whatever you like.

1:36:10 Speaker 3: First episode was Dominique Morgan. Second episode was Ardre Curry formerly of Married to Medicine And like I said, this week, coming up we will have Jasmine Burke from Beyond the Gates.

1:36:21 Speaker 1: Love that. Thank you so much for coming on l It was such a blast obviously to talk to you. Thank y'all so much for listening and for being here for talking when we're talk Traders a little later. So that's happening. I hope y'all are enjoying watching that, listening to that recap with Kara if you didn't already check that out, follow me on all the things at Mixing with Moni and my Xi ng w I t HMI and you know, thank you for listening and subscribe to the Mix with Money anywhere you get your podcasts.

1:36:51 Speaker 1: And after you finished listening to Brief to buy l Okay, like go do that. I treat yourself, do a little road trip, get your chores done, you know, do a self care day. Hey, I love that for you black girls, you know, girls with hair, girls with thickness and their hair and different color textures and different textures. Have your hair day join us. I'm loving to be I would love to let you while you entangle and diffuse your hair. I hope it's going well for you, girl, Love you, proud of you. Thanks so much for listening.

1:37:17 Speaker 1: Bye y'all, Bye,