214. Time to Talk The Traitors w/ Kara Berry (@everyonesbusinessbutmine)

0:00 Speaker 1: Sounds rugg.

0:09 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mix ologist out there. It is your girl Money, and you're in the mix. You're in the mix with Money and Kara. Kara Bury from Everyone's Business but Mine the podcast for the girlies who watch everything like me. It's a podcast for me, it's a podcast for you. Y'all are no strangers to Kara. That's why I'm so excited that she is here to talk traders with us. Kara, thank you so much for coming. How are you good?

0:40 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. I'm happy to talk traders.

0:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, I could talk traders almost all the time. Like in my real life, I work at a school, and being a school and being a teacher, you rarely get adult conversations. So when you get those little snippets, let someone saying anything, and you find out that someone else watches the Traders, bitch, that's the moment. As I've said, as he got to the like cast the Traders meeting, he was like, girl, First of all, I love robbing this I love robbing this environment. But we will get there. I want to know all of your favorites.

1:17 Speaker 2: Who are you vibing with? We all know who we're not vibing with, So we're gonna focus on the positive. I'm not forgetting that back a lot of my or this other black woman's time on my here Black podcast, like that man Riding All, Like the success off the back of Black Women is so over for me. I'm so over it. I don't like it. I never did. But we don't even talk about the things about traders they give us joy where. I mean, this is a silly question because you obviously talk on all the TV shows and watch it literally for work, But like, where did you start your trader's journey?

1:53 Speaker 2: Are you just one one? Okay? Same?

1:56 Speaker 1: I was like, I really you were talking about earlier, Like a lot of people don't really like to watch these competition shows, you know, season one, we didn't really know that. Honestly, those really are a non motherfucking factor. To quote the great Tiffany New York Collared. So I was in season one like, well, let me just see what this is about, and you know, I found the format of you know, at the time, it was like half normal people, and I thought that was like pretty cool. But I mean, was the great moral issues of like having queer couples wanting to have this prize money to like, you know, grow their family and then be like.

2:34 Speaker 2: Oh I haven't won Survivor and all the seven times I try, I'm taking this money.

2:42 Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, yeah, I mean, like there needed to be a separation of church and state. So this does make it a lot funnier and a lot more interesting knowing that like everybody you know, like the stake sure pretty much on the same Yeah.

3:03 Speaker 2: Okay, like they're all.

3:04 Speaker 1: Kind of the same level of celebrity from wherever they are, so I'm not like, oh my god, this person really needs a check, you know, Like, you know, it makes it a lot lighter and a lot more fun. And also, like I know most of the people you know, save for like the big brother the uh Survivor people. But in terms of who I'm liking obviously, like I'm a candy go gal down bitch.

3:28 Speaker 2: This is the season of Candice so much.

3:32 Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's such a delight. I love that she's dressing like a little old school TWA flight attendant.

3:39 Speaker 2: And no, seriously, I have someone that I work with who does not do the Bravo doesn't know it but knows I love it. But watches Traders like I think that you don't even need to be a TV person. My gripe was season one of Traders, which I mean, if you're gonna binge because you do it, I say binge backwards so that one doesn't throw you off and you can start and jumping right now because the format is great. The thing is that you just need to know that the personalities are going to deliver, whether you know them or not.

4:10 Speaker 2: And the problem with season one is that half of them being on TV because they have big personalities and the other half being girlies just like running their errands on a normal weekend and doing real life stuff like us totally change the vibe like it wasn't we didn't know what it could be. I think the first season was still great. I think the second season was way better and which we got it and then third season, fella, we had our rhythm and now it feels like we can have a damn good time, like a really good time.

4:41 Speaker 2: This is the cast that I think I know the most that they've ever had. I mean, yeah, like Save your Big Brothers and even Survivors. I dabble, I do like Survivor. I know that there's a lot of great seasons. I know that there's also just like one hundreds, so I'm never getting through that girl. But if you know enough, if you know enough people from the you know, we TV or something wherever else they're getting their check these days, when they come to traders, it's like, okay, I can get behind. I at least know who I do or don't want to root for.

5:14 Speaker 2: Those dynamics might be interesting. That was what I thought when I first saw this cast, was Portia and Candace. How's that gonna go? Right?

5:23 Speaker 1: And it it went a little much better than I thought.

5:26 Speaker 2: But like again, Renna and Derenda interesting right.

5:30 Speaker 1: Gibson reminded me though, that there was like a rumor that I think Candace had unfollowed Portia after this, and given what we've seen on the show, it doesn't really make sense. They seemed to be Getna go on perfectly fine. So that's really confusing. Can't wait for the reunion. Usually those are a flop, but I think they're actually this one might actually be good.

5:48 Speaker 2: Well, this was gonna be good because we are dealing with professionals. They have called in the professionals. One thing that I can trust any Housewife to do is give me a reunion, and of the ones that we have when this cast right now, the ones who they will invite back, these are all some of the greatest reunion makers of our time. I believe we're in. If you don't know, now you know, you're in for a tree. I think it'll be great. There was one moment, though, that I wanted to flag and get your opinion on, because there was something in the second episode, no, the first episode before Porsche left, when her wits weren't with her obviously, and she kept using the wrong words, all the wrong words, and claiming responsibility for things she knew nothing of.

6:33 Speaker 2: There's some argument, I wonder from you, do you think she knew the kind of show she was on? Or was it or was it just Freudian slit something like you know, the train was underneath the.

6:45 Speaker 1: Church, right?

6:47 Speaker 2: You know?

6:47 Speaker 1: I love Porsche havelf the caveat we do most of the time.

6:53 Speaker 2: That's my opinion. But I love her.

6:57 Speaker 1: I think I don't. I don't you know, really had some like legendary dummy moments. So it's hard to like not think about that and reference that when we think about Porsche. But I do think she is a smart girl overall said she did mess up multiple times and

7:19 Speaker 1: that it's her own grave, like literally pretty much.

7:23 Speaker 2: So we were like, girl, we can't not pick you. He literally said we killed them five times, and everyone's looking at each other liked, he did I hear that right? And she's like, no, yeah, we killed him. Who did we kill? Oh? I forgot please please? Yeah.

7:40 Speaker 1: This is rough because usually we get to that first round table and people are truly going off of nothing but vibes or like this person looked at me wrong, or this person coughed when I said something. You know, this person squinted when I said hello. So for Ron to be able to come to the table and be like, oh, here's like actual, pretty irrefutable evidence against them, it's rare.

8:01 Speaker 2: It is rare. He was just so confident. But something I noticed that Candace told Porsche in the O and y'all this is a spoiler heavy episode. I put that in a description, but just no, we talk into details. When Candace and Porsche were in the jeeps on their way back to the castle and had a moment of Michael Rappaport said let's get a housewife, which we knew that wasn't entirely true or what was said, but Candace did tell Porsia that. But there was a moment that when Porsche then confronted Candace in the kitchen, because Porsche is known to be like, you know, I'm gonna ask you right now in front of everybody, and did Candace was like, oh, you misunderstood.

8:43 Speaker 2: And the way I saw Porsche Clockett, she really digested it, and she goes, oh, okay, all right, And so I wonder if that is what started the deterrence. And I think Porsche helped genuinely like betrayed or something by them being on this show or something. And that again, did she know the show?

9:05 Speaker 1: She was going one interestingly enough that you bring up that point specifically because she has done an interview saying that she did it that.

9:15 Speaker 2: Lying.

9:16 Speaker 1: But you know, apparently we've got this like Housewives blood oath that's going on on the tree. So she said, even though I clocked it, I decided to just like let it go because of our you know, Housewives code that ended up you know, Renna completely threw under the bus.

9:32 Speaker 2: But here we are, girl, it's Renna. That's what I'm just like. I love that y'all have a housewives code, and the code is y'all will stick up for each other because in real lives you're known for not doing that, which is legitimately why you are hearing casted on this kind of game of betrayal, lying, and all the things. Thank you for that constant reminder, Michael Rappaport, first and only time I was saying that man's name, I know a lot of y'all are waiting out watch. I mean, I have a plethora of dms and people like I can't give it a watch until that man is gone, And I will say it wasn't until the third episode.

10:11 Speaker 2: Like I still try to convince people episode one and episode two, I get it. He's annoying. Moved past him. Candice is adorable in her vintage fashions of like girl, what year are you in? But she's serving in confessionals. Derinda is a little bit all over the place. Renda is not getting on my nerves watching anyway. Then get to episode three, and I'm telling you, the fact that we once started with a round table meant that we had to be abrasively smacked in the face with that man first before we even I ain't even get my my, my parfait good, my snack good.

10:45 Speaker 2: I really thought we were gonna have a moment. But understand, we get Michael Rappaport shoving down our faces and here he go, You're from New York, and because he's from New York, he has to yell at everybody that he is right and be abrasive about it, as he tipped he does when he goes and watch what Happens live, saying that because he's from New York, is to aggressively yell and tell mean things about people and call black women names that he probably shouldn't. Okay, after that, like, I'm really just trying to make sure y'all know when he's no longer here that's not to come.

11:19 Speaker 2: And when it does, I don't want y'all to only jump in then if it's doable, please get past it now if you can, but if you can't, I do feel like I understand because, like I said, this third episode, he really got on my nerves. Kara Bad Bad.

11:36 Speaker 1: It's shocking the level of like he can't he has no self control. No, he's truly like boss baby, and it's in a way that's like this is not just like, oh, I'm heightening my personality. I'm like, like, we know that Michael Rapp reports a troll, but like I know that this isn't him, like actively try control. This is him like thinking he's a badass and crashing out every five minutes when people do things like question him in any former fashion, like you really weird.

12:11 Speaker 2: I think it's you. You didn't say to me you think it is because I think it's you. Actually, I'm like, okay, so you just one of those people that anytime someone corrects you will come for you or say something to you. All of a sudden, you did it. It's you. You're the bad guy. I am the victim. Why, like, why does he think it's jammed him? I get some of them, but I feel like he's just because dude is on his radar, as on his ass as well, and if he wasn't on his ass, he wouldn't think it was him. It's almost like he's blinded, like he can't see pass whomever he thinks he has the person you get out to get.

12:48 Speaker 2: But he keeps saying we have to look for who's lying and cheating and deceitful. He says it's so aggressively that, I mean, it's it's hard to not remember that. It's hard to not remember that it's a game one and that two like who wants to collaborate with you?

13:05 Speaker 1: Yeah? Like yeah, yeah, Tiffany, I'm very curious about because I don't know her game to either seen on social media either people saying this is typical of her to like pick the loser or this is like actually her game and like she's you know, two steps ahead.

13:25 Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

13:28 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing how this turns out, because she was one of the first ones that was like, who is this loser? And then suddenly if he's here's this big strong man.

13:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's keeping all close. And he's not big and strong. He's just loud. He's just loud. He actually even told us, he said that, you know, growing up in New York. He was like, I was like, okay, you think you're the first white boy to grow up in New York.

13:50 Speaker 1: No, because.

13:52 Speaker 2: Behind off and told y'all that he too is a white boy from New York and he's not yelling at me, and that's I'll give that. So the fact that he's like it's in this and you either had to fight good crap trash talk or play basketball and I could talk. So you admit it. You're just loud and talkative, right right.

14:13 Speaker 1: And also Timothy Shallow May at least grew up in like artist housing. Michael Rappaport grew up basically the same places that they filmed Gossip Girl.

14:23 Speaker 2: So I don't better get out of here. I did not know that. I'm having a real New York moment. How like people when they come on my show about the D and V and be like, what in the hell is going on over there? So this man is not like really.

14:38 Speaker 1: Up in Flatbush, Brooklyn. He's fine, That's like, no, he grew up in the seventies. His dad was like a record record radio excuse me, a radio exec.

14:47 Speaker 2: My god, that sounds middle class.

14:52 Speaker 1: And his momo was like a radio personality.

14:54 Speaker 2: Oh, a dual income household. You better get out of here. I feel like this man is gaslight in me now. And I have an issue with how he always gravitates to a black woman. Now you think, Tiffany, that you're using him for muscle. That man can't do anything but talk loud, and he thinks that because he likes quote unquote loves and or fetishizes about black women, whatever you want to argue, but he can hide behind him as a shield, like he really does use them as a shield. He was sad to see Portia go because he loved Porsche as a housewife and he wants her to But he likes them also as caricatures like his characters, but not necessarily as people or as individuals.

15:35 Speaker 2: He's not doing ally shit, or he wouldn't. Kenya's feet ask you that time, you know, if you be true, and you're not allowed to say. And that's always been my point. So this man, he gonna get himself kicked out of this show. And unfortunately y'all have to tell you if you're not watching it, he's still He was in it for far longer than I will. You're you're gonna have to wait. You're gonna have to be patient, but it's worth it.

16:01 Speaker 1: But you'll you'll let them know, You'll let your listeners know when we are safe from Michael Rappaport and we can see you accordingly.

16:07 Speaker 2: He will, he will be gone at some point. He's gonna talk himself right off that ledge. And every time you can count on that. Every time he's very consistent with it. The fashions this season are all over the place, depending on who you're looking at and win. But some things that's consistent is that everybody has brought some kind of new wardrobe for this show, like at least the ones of like the girlies who know that this is gonna be on p Like they know what Peacock is. They know, like they might be invited to Bravo kon one day, Like they know these are the real things, the upfront things like that.

16:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I'm not super familiar with Maura really love Island, but she's really I've got my eye on her. I've had several people reach out and say, you need to watch her seat they.

16:54 Speaker 2: Do tell me. They told me the same thing season two. I think it's hers.

16:58 Speaker 1: I think it might be season five on I'm not sure. Okay, I believe hers is one to watch. I mean, if she got the host job, then she's got to be as dynamic as Ariana.

17:08 Speaker 2: If yep, Okay, I'll watch it, y'all. Because she's she's working them outfits. She's a looker. I always thought she was gorgeous. I have often found her accent on after Sun to be too distracting with the colors. That's just UNDERO diversion. I gotta either watching them subtitles or turn it off completely. But in these outfits, they're her hair and these I'm like, oh, girl, you're dressed. She's dressed, And I love that because I also we know that there is a lot more personal effort that has to be done.

17:41 Speaker 2: This isn't like, you know, we're not Kardashians, this isn't Our Housewives, you know, weathering a finale, so like Cannas is borrowing people's hair wands because her wand died, you know, to get them girls correct. But those girls are correct, and I appreciate that commitment. The girls are dressing.

17:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the soft spot of drag Race where people knew, like, Okay, we do have to spend a little bit more coin on our outfits, but we're still a community. Like we're still borrowing banana powder, We're still you know, helping each other with our outfits. We're borrowing a tiera here and a boa here. Like I like that sweet spot of like, yes, we're putting an effort, but it still seems like pretty organic to the person. No, absolutely Erica janeified at some point where, but I'm liking this spot.

18:26 Speaker 2: I do too thoughts on my baby Monet Exchange being on this show because I'm distracted almost every time they enter a room because of the pure unmitigated gold to put that on on a TV show while all these people are wearing jeans, Like, why would you look that good? Why are you wearing that fit? Those glasses? What are How do you feel about Monet being on this show?

18:50 Speaker 1: I'm hoping Monet, well, I'm obviously hoping money makes it further than Bob, but I really think that mone is going to like take it pretty far. Manette's strong, Like Monette stays in the gym, stays posting a gym selfie, the shirtless and the abs are like out there to play, and so she seems like she is like an all around game girl. And plus I'm sure Bob put her on big time, So I'm I'm really excited. I think she's like top five, top three contender for me.

19:22 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, I like that purely. Again, on outfits alone, I'm just like, Damn Lamar would be so proud, like this is a look. The suits are suiting then you got someone like Colton, who y'all are not watching for Michael Rappaport. I think I just don't care enough about Michael to be that bothered by him. Colton bothers me.

19:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love you know, Colton.

19:46 Speaker 2: But okay, and I was about to say, it's kidding.

19:48 Speaker 1: Let me tell you what second villain edit behind, well not villain edit very close second. Lay are you here? Response from the fans because I'm hearing trackers on car We're jumping over fences to stock people.

20:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, real court problems.

20:05 Speaker 1: It doesn't sound good, it seems really.

20:07 Speaker 2: I you know, those who've been in mixologis long enough. No, I like The Bachelor. I've been watching since I was in college, and also at the same time, you know, housewives. I don't know how I live two lives. It's difficult, but I've committed and I actually sat through and suffered through Colton the season. It wasn't that it was so bad. It was that he was so awkward. He was the virgin, the first virgin Bachelor ever naturally, and then yeah he was a virgin. He made the girl really like she It was one of the most uncomfortable breakups for situations that I had seen because they were breaking up and her dad was like, nah, I don't want you to marry my daughter, Which boy, did he have the full the foresight on that one listen to your parents' friends.

20:53 Speaker 2: He like jumps a fence and runs away from the villa in the middle of the night because he's being rejected it. He's so sad. And this was before the stalking situation and allegations occurred, and a lot of people are like not watching Traders until Colton is off because they're like, I in girl's solitude and I understand solidarity. I am not supporting a man who stalked a woman and was so like allegedly like aggressively awful and like it was it was court like appointed or titled harassment, like they they fully went on in on it.

21:31 Speaker 2: And his response was basically that's when he came out. So people have a really big issue with that. They're timing because we're not taking away that you're gay, but we are taking away that you can't that you are. That doesn't mean you can't be an abusive asshole to women. Gay they're gay men that don't like women or mean to women. That's possible. Many things can be true. Culton. You can like men and still have treated this girl terribly when she asked you to leave her alone and the course had to get in.

22:00 Speaker 2: But now you're on a show always also going after a plant woman. I just I need just white boys to fix it here.

22:10 Speaker 1: What I've heard about him, I'm finding it a little bit surprising that they couldn't find somebody.

22:14 Speaker 2: Else, anybody else. Honestly, you could have gotten Nick, you could have gotten the vial. Pull him off the mic and throw him in here. He's not gonna be any more exciting than coldness.

22:26 Speaker 1: Give us a few weeks a break from that podcast.

22:28 Speaker 2: At least, please give them. Yeah, they need a minute. In fact, they should Tom stand of all him and send them to Traders to like, you know, air him out. It's like a punishment. They send you to banished Tom the Traders to sweat it out. You know. Last season excellent watch, except if you're sensitive to watching people sweat like crazy. Because whatever Sandival was going through last year, he was going through it. His all shirts knew that he was going through. So this is a great season because they nobody sweating like crazy.

23:02 Speaker 2: Nobody is not aware that they're on TV and they need to also dress the part. We don't just have a small group of traders. We have our original, our first three traders, you know, our first set of traders, which I actually thought we're a good I liked this pick of the core Lisa Rena, who's duh, almost like in Beverly Hills. Kick her off on Traders. Sign her up. You should absolutely have Lisa Rena as a trader or you're doing it wrong. And I think that they understood that assignment. She's a trader.

23:35 Speaker 2: Canice Dillon Bassett is a trader and Rob from Love Island season six, which is my favorite season so far of USA. And that boy, he was so right. People really think that he was saying it's a flex that girls think he's aloof or don't understand he He's like, no, babes, I'm so deadpan and I could do this job. And boy is he cooking. He's right, is giving off a thing? Yeah, he's had a play a faithful.

24:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot his homeboy. Aaron was on Traders himself, you know, put him up on game.

24:15 Speaker 2: He's like, oh you can do this and he's like, yes, yeah, I play Rob excited about this than any girl on Love Island in the season he was on.

24:24 Speaker 1: For real, Yeah, I you know, he was certainly not my favorite by any stretch of the imagine on Love Island, but you know, his probably everything that I hated about him on Love Island is probably going to serve him very well on the show.

24:40 Speaker 2: Absolutely exactly how I feel. So he I think this first set of Traders is doing pretty pretty well. I like the way they work together. Candice is having a blast. He's working so well with others. I'm so proud of her. Motherhood is just so tea for her. I'm just like, see, I told y'all be a Candace, be a fan of I'm so happy she's back on our TV. I think she's doing well. I think she's a little nervous, but she's so cute and having a good time and they really don't suspect her, so that's really good they you know.

25:11 Speaker 2: I think even the one of the gamers that they sent home after just get rid of Porsche for no damn reason. One of the gamers they sent home, Rob c. He was like he went to Candice and thought he could trust in her. Like something's happening. She's like, oh my god, now you know I'm working. Girl. I love how they're not talking to each other too much out in the streets or in the forest. They are really waiting until they have their meeting, to which again Rob can be like, girl, and I mean, I died. I just I'm so happy that they're feeling successful and that they got through the big Trader, which spoiler alert and shocking surprise to me, there's a trader's trader, like a all knowing trader that gets to decide who traders had to pick from up until now when they got this giant trader out.

26:05 Speaker 2: Even the three traders who we think were dealing with, they don't know who this you know, Capital T Trader is. They don't know where this is coming from. They're trying to figure it out and be discrete and inconspicuous, and this trader is trying to be inconspicuous, And baby, how did you feel about this damn trader being none other than Mama Donna Kelsey? Did you call it? When did you call it? Because I feel like that answer is yes, because I think a lot of people did. And then how do you feel about it?

26:32 Speaker 2: They're making it her.

26:35 Speaker 1: I think in terms of making it her was the smartest choice in terms of just like how much physicality goes into being on this show, Like it does not make sense for her to continue and do these not do the half the things that they do. So I'm not really sure.

26:51 Speaker 2: I'm not making it up the driveway, but go ahead, right.

26:55 Speaker 1: Because they do like actually physically taxing activities. I clocked it it first when they pulled out the first short list of people to murder and they showed the handwriting, and I thought, the handwriting really gives older woman and who else would it have been if not for Donna. I like the element of having a secret trader, for the fact of I find the whole post round table, we banish somebody and then they go up in that circle and tell whether or not they're a trader or faithful. I always find that so boring because we, as the audience, already know who it is.

27:31 Speaker 1: So like, I don't really care about your Rairo speech, like thirty second, thirty second, thirty seconds. It does y'all hooton and holler, and I truly don't care at all, But I did like the stake of also not knowing who it was, I'm like, okay, well this makes it a lot more interesting for me.

27:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, Fannie gave me the Traders are really hard a lot more harder tasks because they had to not only keep themselves a secret, but have to hide the fact that they're looking for a bigger trader than nobody else knows about really but.

28:01 Speaker 1: Them, right right, And I like that. So yeah, I like that element. But I think, you know, had it not, had Donna not been on this cast, I think it would have made it more interesting because like a lot of people have already been like, if you look at that Throne challenge, we don't see Donna in that Throne Challenge. We don't think she did that. There's no evidence, there's no receipts, there's no footage of her having been there. If we could have somebody who is like a little bit more capable and was gonna last longer, I think it would have been more interesting.

28:33 Speaker 1: But I like it. I like it.

28:34 Speaker 2: Well, who asked? Did Donna ask to be on Traders so she can hang out with all her favorite celebrities or meet them? Or did they ask Donna? Because I can't figure out why they would ask Donna to be honest, like, that's not even no shade. It might sound shady, and if it is, that's just the name of the game. But Jason, why they would ask Donna. But I can see that because Donna does love all the I mean, Donna's me. If I was at the Trader's house, I'd be going nuts. She's like, if I like, I am being really like with Tron or like reserved, it's because I'm freaking out about all and I'm a Trader, Like that's why.

29:10 Speaker 2: But she is. She's freaking out about all of them, which is a great.

29:12 Speaker 3: Excuse if you're me, but if you're the mom of Taylor Swift and in real life, I've had to explain that to people because they did not understand.

29:24 Speaker 2: They were like, why is she acting so crazy? It was like, because she's starstruck. They were like her soon to be daughter in law's Taylor Swift. I said, you don't understand. You're not a Housewives fan. It's a different kind of star struck. Right when you watch the TV shows, all of them, the reality girlies, Traders is that would be like, I'd die if I was in the room. I want to go to the ring in Bad Bad.

29:47 Speaker 1: She did kill me though, when she was telling the group that she basically had imposter syndrome and they were like, oh, but you're America's mom and she was like, yeah.

29:54 Speaker 3: I know.

29:55 Speaker 1: And I've had the same conversation with Paul McCartney when we were at the super Bowl and they're like, girl.

30:00 Speaker 2: Shut up up. Not to mention. It's like a Manning, like one of the Mannings, like parents. It's like girl. Also, they've been like Jason Kelsey is retired from being a super Bowl winner, like they've been around for a little bit, Billy getting Mama, Donna Obama, Kelsey Kelsey brothers for a bit.

30:21 Speaker 1: I mean, she's not my mama, but she's somebody.

30:23 Speaker 2: She's definitely not my minest matriarch Tina. No, it was always and forever. Let me make that very clear. The book is very good. I'm listening to it on audiobook after reading it and leaving it on the shelf so no one will touch. Okayen that lady got some good jeans. She's so she birthed some perfect kids. Let me tell you. So that's my matriarch. But I could ever I'm glad, y'all like Donna Kelsey being on this show. I thought it was a poor decision. From the moment we started. I was like, this isn't great.

30:54 Speaker 2: But then when she took her box and she said, oh, I'm ready to play that game, I was like, Oh, she the trader right. So when they when when it wasn't her, I was shocked. But when they were like it's a secret trade, I said it must be done because she get to do it from the comfort of her own home. She can do it from the hotel room that they stay at. You know, you don't have to you know, shrek back and forth to the castle because y'all know they don't live there. That's so crazy. They get up and go get your glam done early and go to work.

31:21 Speaker 2: Okay, it does feel like this is the elite version of like marriage boot camp. This is higher quality reality tease marriage boot camp. This is where you're going to send the people who may or may not be good on another show, who are in between jobs or shows right now, or we're trying to get their job back at Candice rent a everybody. But I actually think they're doing a really good job at getting it. So would you can rent her her diamondback base. No, just never that. Do you don't think it could save the show a little bit?

31:55 Speaker 2: I know I sound crazy, but I just feel like, if we're gonna give it to Tamra, I don't ever do to me.

32:03 Speaker 1: You know, I really don't know what would help Beverly Hills at this point, like absolutely just giving up.

32:10 Speaker 2: Okay, you know, like my BRA's off.

32:12 Speaker 1: I'm in the.

32:14 Speaker 2: Did you hear the rumor? Shout out to reality to recap she heard a roamer that they're thinking of putting Beverly Hills to pasture and not Ossie.

32:27 Speaker 1: I would not be surprised about that, and I actually had that independently. I thought was very strange that they debuted this season. How many episodes do we get? Three episodes before they took that holiday break and then they dumped them back with the premiere of The Traders and the premiere of The Valley. It just feels like they don't really care about the promotion of the show and pushing the show like usually back in the day, we used to be inundated with like forty Beverly Hills teasers. They could put a commercial.

33:00 Speaker 2: I still remember them Kyle stepping out of that thing and like being like it was like icy on the ground when she stepped out of a truck. When it went from like, I was like, Oh they're pack Oh my girls are back, They're no more. You're so right. I'm watching the Valley person. I am, I'm watching Traders. I'm I'm catching up on Beverly Hills. It does seem and I'm doing it for work, like I'm doing it because y'all listening to these as and then you're booking me for these things. What is y'all's excuse?

33:30 Speaker 2: That's really the question. I don't think they're having a nice time. And so maybe I just thought maybe Renna could help us a little bit. I just think she might push us alone because maybe this Trader's format is making me see her in a fresh light, because I actually like her as a trader, and I like her on this show. And I don't remember ever having this experience of likability with Renna, you know what I.

33:52 Speaker 1: Mean so many Yeah, she's not for me as a housewife, but I want some authenticity and I fear like last we saw Rena, she was just playing games like real bad.

34:06 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, she definitely did say I'm also here for me. So yeah, so okay, all right, well never I forgot that's a selfish lady. But I do like there right now that they did make a pack that's traders to not be betray each other. That was important to me because I think that really took us out of last season, when the Traders are turning on each other is no longer fun. So I like that they're all vibing, meshing. I hope Renna don't disappoint me, That's what I'll.

34:34 Speaker 1: Say, because now I'm constantly hoping that.

34:39 Speaker 2: Made of Beverly Hills every Thursday. So yeah, y'all, y'all know what I'm watching on Thursdays, and I mean most of us are. And if you're not, let me know what you are watching. Oh, Kara, before I let you go, what else are you watching? What else are you covering? Like to know where people are watching? I know you cover it all. But what is bringing you joy right now? Like what's your what's your?

35:01 Speaker 1: What is bringing me joy right now is actually the Sister Wives have just begun their tell all portion of the season, and they're really delivering in a way that they have not in Tell All history for them. Where we were talking about things that like haven't really been discussed on the show, but we know have been going on in the background. So I'm loving that, and I am really liking the Valley Persian style, and I gotta say I'm also really liking Vanda proper rules.

35:31 Speaker 2: Really. Okay, you're my first one to say it, but I trust Kara more than anything on the TV things and her opinions, and I know y'all do too. If you don't already know you're not already subscribed, please make sure you go and subscribe to Kara Show. Karen, thank you so much for being here. Can you tell everybody where to find you where they can't listen to you and engage with you, because I don't know who doesn't know, But in case they knew.

36:00 Speaker 1: My podcast is called Everyone's Business but Mine, so you can go ahead and give me a follow on Instagram at Everyone's Business but Mine and you'll find all the business right there.

36:11 Speaker 2: Yes, oh my gosh, thank you so much for being here, and y'all thank you so much for listening. Thank you for If you are looking for the Salt Lake City finale recap with Gibson John's, I did that and it is out and it is. We had such a good time, So please go listen to that. If you're like, did she talk about Salt Lake City? Yes? I did. Thank you for listening to this one. The visuals are gonna be on Patreon and yeah, I am gonna be talking housewives this week. I am gonna do it. So if you're not watching Beverly Hills, I got you.

36:45 Speaker 2: If you're not watching Traders, we got you. Make sure you go subscribe to Kara's podcasts and follow her on Instagram, follow me on all of the things at Mixing with Money and my x I and g W I h M A N I. Subscribe to the podcast wherever you do that, the Mix with Money and I will see y'all next time. Bye.