218. She's Speaking Housewives in the Mix w/ Emily Hanks (@shesspeakingwithemilyhanks)

0:00 Speaker 1: Sounds rugged.

0:10 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologists out there. It is your girl me and you are in the mix with Mani Hi and my special guest today. She's speaking with me, you know her as the host of She's speaking with Emily Hanks.

0:27 Speaker 1: It is Emily Hanks. It's been a minute, Emily. Hi.

0:31 Speaker 3: Hi, I'm so excited we got to actually do this. I know, how are you doing?

0:36 Speaker 1: You know? Yeah?

0:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, life is awful, just terrible, like awful, not good. Yeah, it's just like, you know, I don't know how anyone.

0:46 Speaker 1: It's like I'm actually thriving.

0:47 Speaker 2: I don't know anybody Like you have to have the best like cognitive dissonance, the best disassociation that I've ever seen. If you're like, yeah, I'm doing great, girl, I mean, like sure me myself? Are I doing okay? I mean I'm a T shirt. Who's if you're on the East air quotes if you're on the East coast. We got hit by the snowstorm for twelve straight hours like this past weekend, and it has caused ice immediately following that has really tavoc across the East Coast.

1:15 Speaker 1: I've been out of school for the whole week.

1:18 Speaker 2: Practically, I've slipped already on the ice like three times.

1:22 Speaker 1: All the DNV is.

1:23 Speaker 2: Closed, Like the schools are still close like they were like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, it's a wrap, it's a chop.

1:30 Speaker 1: Thursday, Friday, we'll let y'all know.

1:32 Speaker 2: And DC is the only ones that opened actually Friesday and Friday.

1:36 Speaker 1: And on delay. But they're the only ones.

1:38 Speaker 2: Every other county around it where all the Potomac ladies live, all at home, they're playing with the ice.

1:44 Speaker 1: Really, yeah, they're all playing with the ice.

1:47 Speaker 3: Oh it's like that detrimental. That's no, it really is. Like the snow fell.

1:51 Speaker 2: We got about where I am almost two feet and then it froze immediately after, like.

1:57 Speaker 1: The very same day.

1:58 Speaker 2: That's the same. Yeah, that's the part because then we couldn't get out. Yeah, we're gonna dig each other, but can't dig each other.

2:04 Speaker 1: I pep.

2:04 Speaker 2: We're using hammers, like, oh, they were using all kinds of stuff to get their cars out.

2:09 Speaker 1: Honey.

2:10 Speaker 2: I was like, oh god, we're stuck. Oh yeah, baby, I've been stuck in the crib. I tried to go out one time, slipped my ass off so many times.

2:20 Speaker 1: There's no way. I would not slip on that.

2:23 Speaker 3: Kend Of Hendrick sent me a picture of the snow like right outside of his house, and my first question was, who's gonna clean that up?

2:30 Speaker 1: Exactly?

2:31 Speaker 2: And I keep asking myself that as I stare at it.

2:35 Speaker 1: It's so like someone else is gonna do that, right, Yeah. My dog's looking at it. He's looking at me. He's like, bitually, I can't do it with this. I cannot. I use that?

2:43 Speaker 3: Is it dangerous for it to just like melt on its own and like let it melt.

2:48 Speaker 2: It's not that it's dangerous, it's just that it's not happening, like it ain't likely walk. We're in a cold front for when this came, like the snow brought the cold front with it. The cold front didn't come and then the snow came after. So the freezing temperatures for the week are like, we're lucky if we're hitting double digits this week, whatever reason.

3:10 Speaker 3: You can tell, I only live in I love for you because like I am, like, that's what of course it's not melting, it's cold.

3:19 Speaker 1: La No. You're like, yeah no, because that's what we would hope for.

3:22 Speaker 2: But that's also part of the reason why schools and stuff stay out for a little bit, because if we make it to a day that's thirty three degrees, we just eat thirty three like universe, somebody warm it up, like just do it a nice crisp forty degree and that's basically a microwave. Like we can melt that ice because the plows do a not great job. We thank you for your service, but you just you know, you move the snow from one place to the other.

3:47 Speaker 1: Just like going out the blow dryer.

3:48 Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, girl, I ran my car for a while because I won't be out here.

3:54 Speaker 1: I just sat in the car and let the car melt the snow around it.

3:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean when you said people were using hammers, I was like, oh, I got very different.

4:01 Speaker 2: Not cute at all, babie. I use the candlelabra from my wedding. I still have this one rogue. I'm opposed to picture. Probably y'all let me know if you want to see it. I have one rogue rose gold tall ass candle libra, like a genuine candle holder for my wedding that we use, and it is metal. They said ice. I saw people break in shovels, I said, won't be me. I don't even own a shovel. I'm an apartment only living Sillennial lesbian. Why do I own a shovel? What are you even talking about? Never thought of a shovel until this week.

4:37 Speaker 2: Really hard to come by now, so you know whatever. But it has been great because I've been able to just stay in the house. I love being in the house and watch my shows, you know, I get to catch up on all the things.

4:51 Speaker 1: This is great for me. But like you have power, like the power that out to the South.

4:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, because that's the part that, like I was most worried about for Kendrick.

5:00 Speaker 1: It was like, if you lose me too, the South really bad? Yeah, no, sexist. I'm wishing the best of Texas.

5:08 Speaker 2: They always have a big their own situation and then a big like power situation and that real ways, I don't wanna.

5:15 Speaker 1: I don't wanna.

5:15 Speaker 2: I don't wanna play with that. But you know, I've been great this week. But I'm also in watching all of my TV shows I know and see that you know, the world and people who run it really suck like a lot, and people who support those who run it suck even more so because you don't understand why this all sucks or your your commitment to being confused is really troubling, honestly. So overall, No, I'm not doing I'll tell you how I'm doing.

5:48 Speaker 1: Not well, bitch, but at least I'm in the house.

5:50 Speaker 2: Could you imagine if I wasn't in the house all week this week and this stuff was going on, if I had to commute in and out of the city and y'all want to test my humanity bit, please put me on.

6:01 Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no no, no would have died.

6:04 Speaker 2: No, I would have died, and so with PROBA people around me because try me. Yeah not today, Okay, y'all, we wanted to talk housewives. I wanted to talk housewives. A couple of problems with housewives. Beverly Hills always starts off so strong, and I realize now it is not just that it is not good, it's actually a weed because where I once was like, we could had this beautiful bouquet of housewives. Me and Emily will talk about all the gurlies over in reunion season and Karen's back and all these things, and then I'm like, oh, but then we have to talk about Beverly Hills and I don't want to do that.

6:41 Speaker 2: And then it's like, uh, it's the poison in the garden that it's like I forgot them girls was on and because I feel like I should be watching.

6:50 Speaker 1: Why is it so fucking popular too? Like why is going on?

6:55 Speaker 3: Like for it always is every season after season, I'm like, this has to be this season people don't don't care about, but like it always gives the best numbers.

7:03 Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't get it because I'm are you are you bored or are you like.

7:09 Speaker 2: Sensitive to how down Debbie Downer it is or both?

7:14 Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm doing it like I'm openly hate recapping it on my show, like I'm calling it a hate recap. I'm not pretending it's anything, but I'm like, this is the I'm gonna keep doing this because I took a poll and I was like, we don't care, right, but everyone was like I got like overwhelming, Please keep watching so that you can tell it's what's happening.

7:31 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh that's me. Yeah, I get that a lot.

7:34 Speaker 2: Oh so yeah, I'm there, like, hey girl, I'm not watching, but I thank you for watching because I get my best recaps from you.

7:41 Speaker 1: No, don't do that, So.

7:43 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm doing it as like a community service almost.

7:46 Speaker 1: I think that's great because.

7:48 Speaker 3: I don't I'm not enjoying it at all, and I'm only watching it to make fun of it, And that has helped a little bit. I will say that has helped a little bit in the viewing experience, because I know it's gonna be terrible.

8:01 Speaker 1: But it's the fact that these women do nothing. Nothing Erica kind. They do nothing.

8:08 Speaker 2: They go to lunch and sassily talk to and about each other, which is like, sure, okay, but like nothing. They're not even talking about anything new or exciting. It's pretty like mundane and pedestrian stuff. Nothing crazy, nothing, we don't know, nothing, we don't already have opinions or thought about. They're really just reiterating what they see on the internet so they can say they addressed it. Well, they see we're talking about and they do it in the way that they have already trained themselves, like media trained themselves to respond to it and get their side out.

8:42 Speaker 2: Or you're Sutton and you don't have any real answers for anything, You're just a sad lady right now, and you just set it down. They want to talk about it. I am not talking about this. She's such a fucking cuz you know, it's like really giving active Shannon. I'm sorry, like it's really giving trodden, very down trodden in fact. Real quick detour because now that I haven't gone to school all week, I haven't taken my adhdmons all week. They tell you not to take voluntary breaks without a doctor, but I forgot to take them because I'm out of my routine.

9:17 Speaker 2: And that's how it works. The cycle continues. So quick detour on that. How are you feeling about? So the Sutton and what is his name?

9:30 Speaker 1: Auvy? Auvy?

9:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, Auvy and sudden that fallout and it's still being addressed on this show, but nobody is here to defend or to speak up for them Auv or Garcel. But yet Sutton keep talking about it. You're on obviously if you call Sutton a sad girl, you're not on teen Sutton. But your thoughts on the AUV fallout, well, I I kind of get the most recent episode did just a slight pivot because because like, what was his job, Like his job was silly? You know, and so it's like, you thought you were gonna do this forever at some point.

10:09 Speaker 2: I don't, and I don't like to give Sudden any credit, but I'm like, I guess she is allowed to be like she've also probably saw feedback from the audience and it was like, do you really need Auvy or why are you so mean to Abby? And I wouldn't be surprised if she was like, let's just get rid of him, because I don't really need the assistant and I'm already going to get all this hell anyway.

10:29 Speaker 1: But like Auvy being upset and heard about it, I guess I get it.

10:32 Speaker 3: But I also am like, I guess he should have maybe like thought about another job after this, because like he wasn't doing anything real.

10:40 Speaker 2: Right, not so interesting. I mean, even Justin Sylvester went on to do a real career. Yeah, used to be the lady sitter, like if you were, even if you sit for ladies.

10:49 Speaker 1: Eventually, we do assume.

10:50 Speaker 2: That somewhere, at some point in time, it's just a stepping stone to the next thing.

10:55 Speaker 1: That does feel like a fair assumption.

10:56 Speaker 2: It's a cop out for Sutton to just fire him anyway, totally that lady.

11:01 Speaker 3: Is so manch I can't believe how, I can't believe how sudden is just like just showing.

11:06 Speaker 1: First of all, why is she still there? You know, like that's a good question. Doesn't need the money because she's rich, even though.

11:13 Speaker 3: She acts like a pathetic loser, And I'm like, lady, you have ample money.

11:17 Speaker 1: You are fine.

11:18 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry that you got divorced, but like, let it go right, you're fine, like you Yeah, So she doesn't need to be on the show like Erica does.

11:27 Speaker 1: And she's not friends with these ladies, Like.

11:28 Speaker 3: She's not friends with them, and she spent her whole time up to this point seeming like she didn't want to be friends with them.

11:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, because that was the thing that her and Garcea had in common, because those girlies did not like either one of them. But now that they liked Sutton more than they disliked garcel she takes that and interprets that as acceptance, and now she's like, oh my god, I'm in with the cool girls.

11:50 Speaker 1: You know. No, it's great, and it's really not. It's really not. It's such a bad look, Like she looks like she stands on nothing.

11:57 Speaker 3: Like we watched you beat up Dorry all last season, and now you're like, I'm really just trying to.

12:03 Speaker 1: Be close with Dori and be her friend.

12:05 Speaker 2: What right, because you're in with the in crowd now all because it just makes that behavior, it makes that behavior from previous seasons kind of gross.

12:14 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, so you actually did want to be their friend, like Garcel was reacting to them, but you very much went on the offensive and like went for them. And so yes, that's a little surprising that this whole time you secretly wanted to be their friend and were insecure that they disdn't like you.

12:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, because that you can tell Sutton never was the cool girl back in the day. And because she has money, money doesn't you know. Luyne family said, it doesn't buy you class. It also doesn't buy you cool, and that is something that we see work out on the TV right now a lot with some of these ladies, but definitely with Sudden like, it does not buy you cool, and it didn't. And now that she in order for her to try to fit in with these girlies and we invited to truffle frash air and whatnot, she has to who really embrace the cool girl attitude to be the in with the cool kids.

13:07 Speaker 2: But she's doing a really poor job because she's never been cool. So she resents them because they have money and are cool, but less money than her, and she's not cool. She's like, I don't.

13:18 Speaker 1: That's why she was mad at Duria because she knows he read's money. It's fake.

13:22 Speaker 2: Last year she was like, there's no money there. How do people find her are cool? And not me totally? Because sudden you are so you're as buttoned up as the dresses that you wear, a baby doll, like it's really given American girl doll from the nineteen hundreds. Like of course, say, she really feels so uptight to me that she is the hardest to watch. And then you throw in this season her being sad all the time and then snapping at people, and you think you made it with Erica.

13:46 Speaker 1: You didn't make any dent with her, Like do you calm down? Are you white? And like why is it who gives the shit?

13:54 Speaker 3: Why is she feeling like territorial over these people at all?

13:57 Speaker 1: Like you have to fight?

13:58 Speaker 3: And so it's yeah, no know, she's embarrassing herself, and also she's fucking selfish.

14:04 Speaker 1: She is really selfish. We've in her roomin quite a moment.

14:08 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but the way she's talking to her friend Jennifer is unacceptable. Look, if I've been on a TV show and you come on as like a friend of and but we've been friends for so long. If it happens where one of the other cast members does the thing where they're like, so, did you talk to your friend Jennifer.

14:27 Speaker 1: About what she said about you?

14:29 Speaker 3: The first person I thought Sutton would have gone to would have been Jennifer after Kyle told her, But she went to Eric and talk.

14:37 Speaker 1: As she wants to.

14:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, she needs to establish I'm rewatching Gossip Girl because it's such a good comfort show. It's such a nice show to watch whenever you're just like a little turned up on one of those non medicaid did edibles that Meredith Marxby may take once in a while in a blue moon a gummy gospel Girls a great one because it is really it really shows. It's like if Me and Girls kept going on the sociological interpretation of human beings and their attraction to.

15:08 Speaker 1: Clicks and hierarchy and power, and.

15:11 Speaker 2: You're like, no, it can't be that serious, right, Like you're watching Gossip Girl. It's dramatic. They're high schoolers. It's so over the top. It can't be that serious.

15:19 Speaker 1: This is TV.

15:20 Speaker 2: This was the c W Right thousands even no Baby, we're watching it on Beverly Hills right now, Like it's the same thing. Sutton needs to have a solid, solidified relationship with each of the main girls, because one she has lost a confidence in an ally it is gonna bite her and ask though, because it's not voting well that she did lose those things, Like we see already that it's gonna come up, you know, or it has come up.

15:46 Speaker 1: I kind of understand why Garcia left you. It's always about you. It is like sudden.

15:51 Speaker 2: It's always going through something, even though she's not all ways anything like again, it's giving Shannon bador.

15:57 Speaker 3: Last season when she brought Kyle and Garcia hell down to her mom's house so that she could go on the tour of the house her father killed himself in, and I'm like, okay, like this is kind of a lot to put on your friends. Like garso also lost a parent. I just don't think like this is expecting a lot of emotional support. But she didn't even think twice about it. She just was like, yes, they're supposed to be here for me. Everybody needs to be here for me to support me. Isn't it a big deal that I'm here?

16:26 Speaker 3: And I ended up being like all team Reba. I know that was maybe an unpopular opinion, but I was like, I don't think Reba's as bad as Sutton's making her out to be. It sounds like Sutton hasn't bothered to get to know her own mother, because why is her mom not wanting to talk about the dad that killed himself? I mean, remember she was like, I don't talk about him. We have a different opinion of him. I would be like why, Like what was your experience with dad.

16:51 Speaker 1: Especially since you invited us all here to share?

16:54 Speaker 2: But the only person who can have a feeling or have something going on is Sutton exactly so. And then she was very apparent and I'm like, Jennifer is too good to be friends with you?

17:03 Speaker 1: Girl.

17:03 Speaker 2: That's miss Tilly. Please don't Jerry do please don't? I love Miss Tilly. I think she is old and great club, great cloak, great money, and a great voice.

17:14 Speaker 1: She's funny, she's her career. She is a quick pivot in Badore.

17:18 Speaker 2: You heard today that more people are saying that she is a nightmare of an individual time, So who was gonna wash what Happens Live? Like, just wow, I didn't know Alex's return to Bravo was confirmed. Sorry Alex too, Alex McCord. She's gonna be on Girls Trip at Ultimate Girl's Trip. I love Alex McCord. I think she's the kookiest individual ever on New York. And it's really only because I feel like she was just robbed everything she wanted to be and pretended to be in that first couple of seasons.

17:53 Speaker 2: She really was so close. If she had just stayed one more season, she would have had it. She had been as iconic as Ramona and sow It in them and I just feel so bad.

18:02 Speaker 3: So I'm glad she's here with us. But I think Simon would have been her downfall.

18:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably and probably still is and probably right, I feel like he is the problem, Like she could have been cool without Snymon. A lot of downfalls on husbands that we're seeing happening this week.

18:18 Speaker 1: We will come back to that.

18:20 Speaker 2: So someone else I don't remember who was on Watchford Happens Live I think just the other night and she was mean to them at Bravo Kan Yeah about Shannon Badore was actually one of them, was like the meanest person at Bravo Khan. And lots of people have said it. They're saying now that Joe Kim Booster had something something to it. You know, he said it and people got on his behind in a big, big way when he was like Shannon boom bad and like, don't talk about women like that, would you mean?

18:52 Speaker 3: He took he took it a little far he went. I think he ended up saying he took it a little fart. Y'all like to keep Michael Rappaport on screen. I'm watching him on Traders way too long.

19:03 Speaker 2: And that man has said everything every which way to it about a woman. Okay, so everybody calmed down with Joel especially, And somebody just told me the other day that Jeff Lewis, I mean, he says awful things about women all the time. Like not a good knight of him for a minute, you cannot. So it's looking like Shanel Ayan asked this person and he yes, she asked him, and he said, it's Shannon Bador. She was very rude and very condescending crazy. She was talking a lot of crap. Off to the side, Tyler heard her talking about Sally and I and having a better position in one of the fan rooms.

19:40 Speaker 2: Well, honey, show up on time and you won't have to worry about that.

19:44 Speaker 1: Who does she to think that she is who you know, Shae?

19:47 Speaker 2: But who does she think that she is of anybody any of the housewives?

19:51 Speaker 1: Saying that I now I need to know Roddy ray Is, Rodrigo and Tonio Reyes. Thank you from Southern charmp. The only reason I'm able.

20:02 Speaker 2: To say that I know that is because Katie from OC famously, who was no longer with the cast, responded to this and tagged him.

20:11 Speaker 3: I love him like I love Roddy Rayyah. No, he's actually he's actually a good one.

20:16 Speaker 2: Well, anybody who's not on the side of Shannon Madoor is probably a good one.

20:21 Speaker 3: That's so funny too, because I when I went to Bravo Khan, was that the two years ago or not the last one, but the one before that Shannon, I already knew Shannon was rude. I had no expectation her whatsoever.

20:33 Speaker 1: No, why does she come to you think.

20:34 Speaker 3: But anyway, so I went, I was in mine and these girls were behind me, and I guess they had I guess Shannon was doing one of the little photo things, like the photo op moments right and was getting ushered to her next event, and they tried to like get a picture with her, and she was like, oh no, I can't. I like all rude, and they were offended. They were like, we love her, we can't believe how rude she just was. I didn't see the interaction, but I also was like, I am not surprised, So I'm not surprised either.

21:00 Speaker 2: But I'm like, Shannon, it's Bravo Con exactly, people you're going there to. It's literally a conference for fans of Bravo. You can't take a picture with some fans from it should literally be the expectation me myself, I would not be at a Bravo Con unless one I knew I wanted to work and I was like there to work, and two I could handle being around a bunch of people and wanted to take pictures of stuff all day.

21:24 Speaker 1: But that would be the expectation. I would know that, and what do think we're there for?

21:29 Speaker 2: To just getting paid Okay, then oh wow, that's good to know. So you think you you can't take pictures, that's the whole eggs.

21:36 Speaker 3: I figured out they were getting paid because that's why they were like people were like hoping they got invited to bravocns so bad the fees, and I was like, oh, because like that's why they like they always brag like who else we got? We got this person coming too. I'm like, why is this a big deal. Oh, it's because you're spending money.

21:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like it's such a good for everybody thing, which again doesn't make sense to me, Shane.

21:58 Speaker 1: And then why would you come. I understand it's because you need the money.

22:01 Speaker 2: Nobody's probably buying the cream cheese salmon's anymore, But it doesn't mean that you can be mean to people. How the hell are you gonna get me to buy a cream cheese salmon one day? If I was like I was at Brava Khon and that lady was rude to me, like that's not like that.

22:18 Speaker 1: Doesn't I'm not gonna buy any and.

22:19 Speaker 2: Oc is on such as the last legs. Please, y'all really need to count your blessings.

22:24 Speaker 1: Over there in the microphone. I'm so sorry, I kept going, OK, I'm so so listen because they're all doing it too.

22:31 Speaker 2: We're all doing it too, because like, what do you mean, Vicki's back, Shannon's miserable, Tamra's an awful person. Like you talk about Beverly Hills not being fun. California needs a revamp. One hundred percent wells the revamp.

22:46 Speaker 3: I know that this may be controversial to say, I don't actually I doubt it here on this and this on this platform, but Tamra having a podcast is now like it's sort of a it is a conflict of her being an active cast member on a show that's airing because.

23:05 Speaker 1: They're doing like interviews.

23:07 Speaker 3: With other housewives, and it's just like she knows so much more about like the business side of it, and it's so obvious that she's just like hitting all the points of what she thinks is being a housewife, and it's coming across as cruel to me at least.

23:21 Speaker 1: I'm like, this.

23:22 Speaker 3: Isn't even funny anymore, Like I don't get what's going on with the vio. Yeah, I don't think that she can do both like two teas and the show, Like she.

23:33 Speaker 2: Does not do the show. I think she would do very well and her podcast that's excellent.

23:39 Speaker 1: People really like it.

23:40 Speaker 2: They liked it so much that they willed for her to come back, and I think that much. Lets someone like me who's watching Traders and shout out to my pos not Traders episode with my friend Morgan we just got into, you know, the same thing is this, the housewives.

23:56 Speaker 1: Do really well. Even though they're likable.

23:58 Speaker 2: Sometimes off their show does not mean they need to be rewarded back on their showam was one of those. Okay for me, Renna, I'm having a fun time with her being on Traders. It's actually quite good. I just spoke about it how I love it, and I know people are feeling the same thing about Candace. I don't forget how awful the Househo's environment was for Candas, but I'm having a great time watching her own Traders. I think she's hilarious. I think Renna is really good at this, and she's really good.

24:24 Speaker 2: I'm rooting for her against Culton, not just because I hate Culton, but also because I'm like, damn, I don't even like Renna. I'm over here like Renna, get his ass, Get his ass. Renna tell him he don't know who we messing with, which.

24:40 Speaker 1: She's she's really coming out good because like she is. How dare you tell a woman that she need to perform for you? Hold on? That was gross?

24:49 Speaker 3: What's also interesting because I feel like, I'm sure by now you've heard too that like Ron had a whole interaction with Derinda that was off camera or that last they didn't show, and it's clear that they're trying to protect Derinda to me, because that's coming. Doesn't she have a shot on Radio Andy? Doesn't she have that? Isn't that her show?

25:09 Speaker 2: Yes's in But they literally just hosted the Summer House upfronts essentially the other day.

25:17 Speaker 1: That was for Kiki and Derenda's show.

25:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, that whole thing that's now going viral of what how she feel, how Amanda feels and stuff of that row that event was hosted by them for their show.

25:30 Speaker 3: Interesting, So that's how like she like they're trying to bring her back.

25:33 Speaker 1: Can you imagine?

25:34 Speaker 3: So remember how weird Dernda was when she was put on pause and she wouldn't say that she was fired. Can you imagine the amount of fucking phone calls she sent it? She did Andy Andy all drunk voice memos, I'm on, I'm on pause, all that stuff. So then they were like, we have to bring her back. She won't leave us alone, even though she should have been gone forever.

25:57 Speaker 1: Should have and could have.

25:58 Speaker 2: And I think that what we're watching is also so I'm like, I had to ask, and I got some really good feedback from people and my Instagram stories, and I appreciate y'all because I asked. I was like, Ron said something was really bad to happen, and it wasn't that I did.

26:10 Speaker 1: Not believe Ron. One.

26:11 Speaker 2: I love Ron functions. I've been handed his for years. I love him because one he's neurodiversion AF and so am I. And two he has an autistic son that he I love and I thought it, yes he does.

26:23 Speaker 1: It's in his stand up and his son is like it really really.

26:27 Speaker 2: Sweet at how he stands up for him and the jokes that he talks it says about him.

26:32 Speaker 1: He has a special on Hulu and.

26:33 Speaker 2: Netflix because I can't even remember which one it was that I saw it, and I want to say Hulu, but like, shout out to you for getting both, baby, Like I've always loved Ron, but I had to ask, is what he said? Is what Direnda said?

26:46 Speaker 1: Bad? Bad or bad?

26:47 Speaker 2: Because he's never If you or I wanted context, I think because if you've ever seen Housewives, which he admittedly never had, he had no idea who Derenda was, you might approach her differently with this expectation, such a do you know what I mean?

27:05 Speaker 1: Like I really was like, okay, no, no, shaite, I'm not blaming the victim.

27:11 Speaker 2: This is not that I just heard him also say he's never seen the Housewives show at all, And arguably you need to see Derinda on specifically that show. We're not talking about the mean girl on Salt Lake City or even Erica Jane on Beverly Hills. I'm talking about New York where those itches are cruel. Okay, Derinda arguably when drunk the cruelest. So I needed to know is it so bad? Like?

27:38 Speaker 1: How bad is it?

27:39 Speaker 2: Because I've seen her do the worst to the equal tax bracket, old white woman in front of her, put any name in Luayne, Sonya, Ramona, l anybody you know.

27:48 Speaker 1: Argue about Birdie and Brady like.

27:50 Speaker 2: Please, I'm like, how unhinged was it? Was it regular or unhinged? Or was it Housewives unhinged? Like was it accusing someone of munch Houses, Like, give me a context.

28:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean.

28:02 Speaker 3: That's a good question because like when we were trying to think of what she possibly could have said, we're going all outside what we've ever heard ever.

28:11 Speaker 2: But you're exactly, and I'm almost like everyone's neat exactly. And I feel bad because it probably would have told him he probably would have pivoted and not done it at all, which may have been for the best.

28:23 Speaker 1: In my opinion.

28:24 Speaker 2: But even though he was a light to watch. But honestly, I'm as one AUDHD person autistic ADHD person to a neurodivergent persons run as identified himself to be baby, I really would have wanted you.

28:38 Speaker 1: To do your homework.

28:39 Speaker 2: Watch one episode of Derenda on New York and you would have either gone in there differently or not gone at all and protected your mental health a la Karamo and I would have probably promoted that one because when you watch Therenda one, you look at her like she gonna say something racist at some point after team number three, she just did honey, she us is she literally compared Liah McSweeney's Little Kim dress to wearing Stalin and Stuff sweatshirts.

29:09 Speaker 1: Yes, that was why I hated to render that season.

29:12 Speaker 2: When Liam McSweeney first came and was introduced to herself and you introduced herself.

29:16 Speaker 1: On New York, I for one didn't like it.

29:19 Speaker 2: I was very vocal on my show about how I did not think that was a good idea.

29:23 Speaker 1: I thought, I do not like Liam McSweeney, I never have the very beginning.

29:26 Speaker 2: I think she really milks the hip hop and black community in a way that I think is really gross and culturally appropriating, and in a gross way because you made your money off of the privilege of a white woman who could sue a police force for assaulting you when you were in the wrong. That's not the experience of any one of us, in which case for you to didn't go around to turn and do that blow up in their face and create a clothing line called Mary to the Mob.

29:52 Speaker 1: And then you.

29:53 Speaker 2: Wear a dress that has a little Kim's mugshot all over it, and you take it to film on a show with a bunch of older women than you who are high tax bracket, high bullshit and high racism likely. You then put yours in your shit, like in your line of fire, and we ain't asked to be in it. Because now I got Derinda in the confessional going, Oh, I get it.

30:17 Speaker 1: She's cool. You know it's hip hop.

30:19 Speaker 2: Like I wore a sweatshirt that had Stalin on it back when I was in my twenties.

30:23 Speaker 1: I'm like, explain to me the similarity to Renda. Didn't explain this.

30:28 Speaker 3: I swear to god, I don't remember her saying that at all.

30:32 Speaker 2: Oh and it stuck with me because what do I always say? Y'all know you mixes know if you listen to my show, I'd be watching until it hits me on the couch.

30:41 Speaker 1: While I'm on my.

30:42 Speaker 2: Couch, I feel hit by astray. I can't watch no more. And that was the that was the last time I started watching. That was the season before everyone stopped watching Ronnie. I spent weeks on it, Emily.

30:54 Speaker 1: I was so upset. That's what I'm saying. That's what I needed to know. Derinda, how bad was what she's saying.

31:01 Speaker 2: Because if you'll compare wearing a mufshot dress to wearing a dictator on your sweatshirt, I'm sure does She probably called ron everything else but a child of God and thought she was being nice about it. Prapa's like, this is so nice to see where you've come from. You know, she don't even notice man, She won't even notice man.

31:19 Speaker 1: And is your mom? Does your dad? Do you know him? Do you know?

31:22 Speaker 4: You?

31:22 Speaker 2: Probably like is he's so proud of you? And she is so proud of you? Was she has single mom?

31:27 Speaker 3: You know what?

31:28 Speaker 2: Ron's like, I don't tell you my business because I don't think you needs. I don't think you care. I don't think you really want to know. I think you just like are trying to establish why I'm here. And I really can understand now. First of all, y'all are right. It shouldn't have mattered. Whatever she said. It was probably agregious because lo and behold, we watch egregious bitches do a gregious shit.

31:53 Speaker 1: We just are like he too.

31:55 Speaker 2: We're so desensitized that a nice man like Ron, a person with a hard job.

31:59 Speaker 1: He's median and you made him not laugh. That is awful.

32:03 Speaker 2: You made him cry the whole time during so they were just all so mean to him, and it was so crazy. I did not understand it because he was so right. And God will get into the Salt Leage City in a second, I promise. But he was just so right in saying that, like, y'all are okay with Colton being wrong all the time because you didn't like Michael Rapaport, but because y'all love Porsia, you're mad at me still from not one.

32:27 Speaker 3: That's crazy. And I told didn't like Michael, but he wasn't Ron. It's not like it was just Ron who voted for Porscha and that's it. They all they a bunch of you guys also agreed it was Porsia and right voted for her.

32:41 Speaker 2: So what he said, because it's literally Coulton's defense, that's Colton's reason for calling out Lisa Rena is what you voted for Porsie that and you get a housewife. It doesn't it doesn't make sense. He's so silly. I think, like I don't. I My friend Morgan made a good point, like it's a game. Lisa Rena went on there probably doing not just being a trader.

33:03 Speaker 1: She did. She voted for Porsche. It's a game.

33:06 Speaker 2: It's not fair to say that, oh, she voted against the people that she knew on night one, but she didn't know anyone. Maybe she thought Porsche was exhibiting trader like behaviors. It's a game, and if we all watched she was, Me and my wife look at each other a couple of times, like is she supposed to.

33:22 Speaker 1: Say that she got to be the secret trader in right? Because she cain't saying we.

33:27 Speaker 3: No, Like it's it's not that absurd that like Porsia dug her own grave.

33:32 Speaker 1: Yeah, it wouldn't be that crazy.

33:34 Speaker 2: But also, how is Lisa in trouble not in trouble for it, but Ronnie is now?

33:38 Speaker 3: And also how is Lisa voting for Porsia a sign that she is a trader like she was?

33:45 Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

33:46 Speaker 3: Like, right, because you voted for Porsche a housewife, you must have known or whatever.

33:51 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't I.

33:53 Speaker 2: Guess why she vote? Okay, it wasn't anybody that's not think it is. And much of like Holton's life, and you know it's not that it's it's really not the gag he thinks it is.

34:05 Speaker 1: He's like, oh, this is the gotcha. Oh I did it. Oh I'm cute. Oh I'm having a good year.

34:09 Speaker 3: I think it's so gross that he said I know that this is a game, and they're all like, yes.

34:13 Speaker 1: But I just I guess we're girls. Said I'm gonna hold one hostage.

34:18 Speaker 2: I paused it too. I paused for a whole minute, and I just I did. I talked about this on my recap episode that I just lately released. That word choice, like choice, that verbiage. Holy shit, all the holy shit, sir, you were like convicted of the or the restraining order was granted.

34:38 Speaker 1: I need you to calm down with this word choice. That was like, that was a.

34:41 Speaker 3: Lot, Like that was a lot another woman murdered and banished.

34:47 Speaker 2: Yes, sure, but we know, but also we weren't in the game. He wasn't doing it. He was in his confessional. That was the word choice you chose, like you put that word It wasn't like we were in the game and it was part of the.

34:59 Speaker 1: Game to say hostage and kidnappers or whatever.

35:02 Speaker 2: I'm basically gonna hold a girl hostage until I get what I want.

35:07 Speaker 1: So that's what we flag on the play flat on the play I'm shaking.

35:11 Speaker 2: I found some Nepkins flag on the motherfucking play because that's literally what you got in trouble for.

35:17 Speaker 1: It's trying to hold on to a girly until you get what you want. Please, no, don't like and like.

35:23 Speaker 3: What was he and he thought that offering his protection at the round table was that was against you.

35:31 Speaker 1: You're the only person that brought her up. That was really bad.

35:35 Speaker 2: Like, it's just not looking good for a white man this year. I'm sorry, it's only been three weeks. That is three weeks.

35:45 Speaker 1: It's just not looking good for white man, white straight man. But actually I forgot. He's not straight. He's gay, and he's he's letting us all the.

35:54 Speaker 3: Time, all the time. I'm gay and get used to it. We're like, that's.

35:58 Speaker 2: Why this toxic behavior year is. So it's because I'm gay that I'm young. Because also beyond you even saying hostage again, I don't like the fact that you were been telling Lisa Rena, I don't care that she needs to perform for you. You're just not housepiping it up. But she's like, okay, I'll turn it on. He's the good you should do that. You're go to hell, Go to hell. I mean, I'm glad she's eating them up in the in the instagram and the threads and the twitters and I can't wait for the reunion. If she eats them up, then too, because that's gross.

36:28 Speaker 2: I do not like men.

36:29 Speaker 1: Demand how dare you demand?

36:31 Speaker 2: You first seen a holding nobody hostage, and then now because you gay, you think you can just talk to him in all kind of way.

36:37 Speaker 1: Untrue.

36:37 Speaker 2: That's literally what they yoa Joe Kim Booster about. Yes, that was the exact argument. You can't talk to women all kinds are crazy because you like housewives and you gay?

36:46 Speaker 1: I agree, Then why are you sir?

36:49 Speaker 2: And now it's really looking like why did y'all get both of those terrible white men? Colton would be homophobic if he wasn't gay, Like if you didn't like it itself, he would be homophobic like so, and.

36:59 Speaker 1: How how many times is he gonna compare? Like the way I'm playing.

37:02 Speaker 3: This game is that the way I played football for fourteen years or whatever it was.

37:07 Speaker 1: It was like, that's nothing. I don't understand that at all, baby, that's not how the game is played. Like you're just playing it bad.

37:14 Speaker 3: He's like, I'm playing it intentionally aggressive, even as a faithful but I'm gonna stick with it. I'm like, okay, well, then you're being an asshole and how did that work for Michael Rappaport exactly?

37:26 Speaker 1: Oh my god.

37:27 Speaker 2: All of that to say, see, this is why I love not taking my mads. The West Coast needs an up present.

37:33 Speaker 1: We need some new.

37:33 Speaker 2: Women because I'm thinking already about if when Traders for next year, I'm thinking about Traders for next year and Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip for the next season.

37:42 Speaker 1: Who they get.

37:43 Speaker 2: We haven't ventured much into the West Coast California Housewives because.

37:48 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know why, like for Traders or any of these things, we haven't really done much of those born with.

37:56 Speaker 3: I think it has to do with the like production schedule, oh okay, of like when like.

38:02 Speaker 2: Home right away it's in you need to go back to work, yeah, because he's on Girlship right now.

38:08 Speaker 3: I feel like when they take like who it would be available in this bracket of time to film and they have to like go from that list, because sometimes I'm like, how would they ever have filmed that? Like Salt Lake City? Right and I liked salt feel like they couldn't do that. I would like one, though, I would do like one. Who would you want from Salt Lake City? On traders. I have my have my top two and it's they're unpopular. Okay, what are yours?

38:33 Speaker 1: No? You go first?

38:35 Speaker 3: No, okay, fine, minor kind of minor. Probably unpopular too, I guess. But just because if I think about like this environment and wanting to see a housewife like out of that area into you know what I mean, it's like it's I want to see I would want to see just how Meredith does or how really Lisa. That would just be very confused.

38:58 Speaker 1: Not more than Porsche was. Okay, so murdered him? Yeah? Uh who did we get? We got him tonight? Okay.

39:05 Speaker 3: I think Mary is an obvious one for just like that would be really hilarious. I just don't think she would have do any of the physical challenges though.

39:13 Speaker 1: No, no, no, And I like that strategy. I'm fine with that.

39:17 Speaker 3: Yeah.

39:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, either what about who are yours mine?

39:21 Speaker 1: I would really like to see Lisa Barlowe on there? I think she would be really good.

39:26 Speaker 2: And though I don't like her on this season this Housewives or this last part of the reunion, Heather Gay actually because I think if you don't like Heather's because you think and know that she is more duplicitous and like calculating than she appealed appears to be and is not as genuine as she wants to be, and she thinks she.

39:50 Speaker 1: Thinks she is.

39:51 Speaker 2: And I actually think she would do really well on Traders, even either as a face or bad or really bad. But I think she would do well on the other side of being a trader because she's good at maniful. Heather could get people to feel bad for her for being accused of being a trader enough to produce tears out of herself whether she was a trader or not. Like I could see Heather at the round table be like the dude, we've had so many conversations.

40:23 Speaker 1: And you would do that.

40:24 Speaker 2: This hurt me, It did, and she waited until the round table to bring it up because I just think that she would do really well. And that is the problem is because if I don't like you on Housewives, there's a good chance you would be great on Trader.

40:38 Speaker 1: No, I do I really think that.

40:41 Speaker 2: I think there's a method to that or some kind of logic to that that I'm gonna work on. I'm gonna digest it more, especially as we walk through or talk through the last part of this Floppiana of a reunion Part three for me in Salt Lake City, I think we started off too strong too, you know heavy, we were top heavy, because yeah, we really.

41:02 Speaker 1: We really did start out strong. That's a good point.

41:04 Speaker 3: Started out strong, and I thought, I thought the second part was actually more interesting than this last part.

41:10 Speaker 1: This last part like this is exhausting.

41:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, not enough, and then we ended really clunky. It was on that I did not It's like, you know, it was not a smooth landing. Andrew, he was over as shit. He said, let's go home.

41:24 Speaker 3: He he was, though, and like, I kind of like, I hate the Salt Lake City reunions, but I love the regular seasons. Like the regular okay, regular season I enjoy, but every reunion is just like nails on a chalkboard.

41:37 Speaker 1: They just yell over each other, and so I dread it.

41:41 Speaker 3: Like it when I when I started covering it was it like season one.

41:44 Speaker 1: It must have been.

41:45 Speaker 3: I remember being like, I don't even know if I'm gonna finish the unions, Like I think there were three parts or something, and it was like, I don't even know if I can finish it.

41:51 Speaker 1: It was just it's like when Jersey was at its peak bad.

41:55 Speaker 3: They're just yelling over each other nowhere and you're like, oh my god, you all the same thing to each other.

42:02 Speaker 2: Yes, they do, they really do, and I think that I just think that both.

42:07 Speaker 1: This is why I have a problem with Heather.

42:09 Speaker 2: Heather was one of my biggest issues this reunion and this season because she is looking not just to put blame on someone for something always and then saying she owns she takes accountability because I don't really think she does, though, Like I keep looking for her to say it. But whenever Lisa would say these are my feelings, because she's like, well, these are my feelings, Heather is the would not extend any of the same grace that she was demanding for herself from Lisa. The response every single time, every single time was just do the same thing too, and you do the same thing too.

42:48 Speaker 2: She's like, Okay, I know because you said that. So I'm explaining, like how I feel about that, and she's like, no, because I already felt, and I've already told you I felt, and so that's all. We've already decided that it's my way. But then I'm like, then why are you my friend? I understood Lisa so many times, like I don't want you to be my friend. If you think I would do that, that's I don't think it matters to me that she even if she did it or not anymore, I don't think she did. But because it's it was given like Ron saying goodbye to all the homies, like already, Like.

43:18 Speaker 1: If you think it's me, it's me.

43:19 Speaker 2: But Lisa was like, it hurt me that you said that I did not I don't bring it up, but like it's crazy that you think that. And if you think that about me, why would you want to be my friend? And Heather looks weird to me, saying, yeah, I still want to be your friend. I think that you leaked it, I think that you are a dangerous person and all these things, and I still want to be your friend.

43:39 Speaker 1: Then what's wrong with you? Baby? Yeah, what's wrong? Because well that's the thing is she's become such a.

43:44 Speaker 3: Producer too, like she's like she's very much there for like the business to like she's she's manipulating so much of it, and like it's her to call for Heather to be like I think Lisa is the source of all of it because all of them, like Angie, Heather, Whitney, maybe not Whitney as much anymore because she kind of got busted for it, but like they all talk to different creators and different social media accounts and stuff like there's always that's always been the thing, but every single one of them has, like Angie especially, So you can't put it all on Lisa because that's crazy, you know, that's not possible, and so but Lisa is not innocent.

44:26 Speaker 1: But none of them are. No, not Marinith, not, none of them are no, none of them.

44:31 Speaker 2: And that's why, like Heather's saying that when Lisa explains the same thing and she's like, well, you do it too, you do it too.

44:38 Speaker 1: But Heather's I own it. I'm like, I actually don't.

44:40 Speaker 2: Really remember, don't own it in that you are not denying it by saying you do it too.

44:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point because I keep waiting for her to like say, I've done it.

44:51 Speaker 1: I did it this time, right, But like when you say you've done it.

44:54 Speaker 3: You mean like when you do that crazy game where you're like, hey, guys, take out your phones and find the word text you ever said about one of us and get.

45:02 Speaker 2: Outside every time. Every time she starts that the game. That's what Lisa Rena used to do in Beverly Hills and I hated it. But every time she would be at a dinner party, which we're about to have. And this is where I'm excited for Traders a Game because the episode that'll come out after this comes out or whatever that I'll cover next week, they are having what looks like a housewife dinner party, and I'm like, if anybody's been watching Salt Lake City of this past season, you would see what it goes down when you sit down at a dinner party, like, who boy here you holding the number in for it?

45:35 Speaker 2: But So is like, this is what ends up happening. Every time Heather is like, let's start a game. Let's play a game, which is would imply fun to me. We don't have that when they want to scroll through and find it and then burn it and forget it or whatever like that shits. You can't burn it or forget it.

45:54 Speaker 1: There was you cannot.

45:56 Speaker 3: Tweet from like I think after the laughter last season finale, that was like Heather, next season, all right, guys, I have a game, pulls out loaded gun.

46:06 Speaker 2: Let's play like honestly, because what do you mean, girl, Heather doesn't really she took a lot out of it for me, a lot of the air out of the balloon for me, because it wouldn't allow. You've also been asking Lisa to open up all season long. You've been like, the girls don't like you basically because you don't open up. You're not real, you're not vulnerable. You don't speak on it because you don't think it's like, well, you would support you. I mean, y'all kind of bully people into telling their secrets as a cult, So you bully people are telling their secrets so you have bladderal on them later for another reunion essentially, but you're bullying her, or you're not bullying, but you're pushing her to share and be vulnerable.

46:44 Speaker 2: She's vulnerable this whole reunion. This is the most we've seen and gotten out Lisa in a long time. She talks about John and how she feels like she is. Her and John are at an impast because he feels like he doesn't listen and she she doesn't listen, and she's like, cannot be listening if I'm doing everything.

47:01 Speaker 1: That's what she means. She would say I don't listen, but I am on the side of like Lisa doesn't.

47:09 Speaker 3: Lisa doesn't really like ever seem to get it though. No, no, you know, it's like she's like, I'm upset that John would say that because like he knows I'm working really hard on listening. Okay, if he knows you're working hard on listening, then you would have responded as such, like you would have been like, Okay, you're right, John, I do need to listen. But you were like, uh no, I'm frustrated by the way I think she listens to my show because I make fun of her for saying instead of saying frustrated, she says frustrated, And during the reunion she was like, no, I'm frustra I'm frustrate frustrated however you say that word.

47:43 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh no, oh no.

47:47 Speaker 3: Lisa is just like not really capable of, like nothing permeates to no, no.

47:52 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no.

47:56 Speaker 4: That's exactly for examples to soccer practice care, She's like, how do you think you get your suits cleaned?

48:11 Speaker 1: Yeah? Because I listened. Is that what he's saying? Is that what he's talking about?

48:15 Speaker 2: That He's like, why don't you get my suits clean? I heard him say he needed to go to the drag leaners.

48:21 Speaker 1: I went, I'm listening. He say, I don't listen. Rude.

48:24 Speaker 2: John's probably like, yeah, my marriage is my wife basically being my right. Oh god, what did you think about how the package of Bronwyn was cut? I thought it was interesting because the trailer that we got of browin announcing her separation was a little bit more. It was shorter, and in seeing the real version of it, of her basically getting Andy to ask her if she's allow her to say that she's separated, it was a little.

48:59 Speaker 1: It was weird.

49:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, thank you for using that adjective. I was looking for one that would not you know, No, I'm not doubting she's not having a good experience.

49:09 Speaker 1: I just thought it was interesting that she baited him.

49:12 Speaker 2: Look, she goded him to ask her so she could say. She's like, do you have more questions about Todd?

49:18 Speaker 1: Yeah? That that question so weird? Like are you ready? She's like, I do, Like I have more questions about Tom? What are they? Okay? Right now? Do you want to know how?

49:30 Speaker 2: She's like, where do you want to start? Do you want to know where we are now or where we are since then? I was like, what in the production? Shit, that's exactly problem.

49:40 Speaker 1: So confused.

49:41 Speaker 3: She's like, do you want me to start from where we were back in the show and go from there or did you want to I'm like, what, that's no, You've just said some weird stuffs. Do you just have to say what you're trying to say, because now none of us understand what you're clarifying here?

49:55 Speaker 1: Just say, Clara, well, we weren't talking about anything yet.

49:59 Speaker 3: It was you asked for this, and she answered a couple a couple other earlier stuff, not needing to say that Todd and I are separated, Like she answered that fine.

50:09 Speaker 2: She did fine, Yeah, she was actually, you know, still fighting with Lisa over the fact that you don't talk about my husband.

50:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm a little to my husband.

50:17 Speaker 3: That's why it's as we're talking to you. That's actually what made it weird for me. I was like, I thought you already answered some of these questions and like, there's no reason why at this point. Now You're like, well, now, hold on, do you have more questions about Todd?

50:29 Speaker 1: It's like, what do you mean? Because we are this is a reunion.

50:35 Speaker 2: So eventually he's like, I mean I do, and I think just goodn't give a fun He's so tired.

50:42 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, okay, I do they Yeah, what are your answers? So let's start with what you got?

50:50 Speaker 3: She's like, she gave him like a multiple choice. She's like, do you want A or B? And he's like, I don't. How do you want it?

50:56 Speaker 2: You know, like when you ask how you want your chicken, you know, sauce or unsowd, Like he's like, or.

51:03 Speaker 3: Say your little keys or whatever. But then it was also weird because I didn't really get like a full like I don't. I still don't have a full grasp of what's happening from Bronwyn's side, Like I can't tell if she wants to be separated, because she's like I asked for the separation, but then Todd wants us to be together. But then also Todd doesn't want us to talk, and so I'm left like I can't tell what's I mean? And I keep thinking they've been married because he's so old. I think I keep thinking they've been married for like twenty years.

51:33 Speaker 3: They've only been there ten right.

51:35 Speaker 1: Girl, she's like thirty two, but yeah, she's very young. She is. No, I think she's just during forty.

51:41 Speaker 2: Oh okay, she's forty you right, Still ten years ago she would have been thirty and she has a daughter who is yeh an adult.

51:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I want, Like, what I want for Bronwyn is for her to like be like a lesbian and just embrace it. I feel like that's I feel like, well, that's what she was like hinting at when she was talking about having kissed girls and like done stuff with girls.

52:03 Speaker 1: I feel like it. I feel like she was like soft.

52:05 Speaker 3: Launching, like testing out the waters because I'm like, it makes sense to me because Todd I don't get it. I get he has money, but like I don't understand. So to me, it makes sense.

52:15 Speaker 2: You're not even collected to it was yeah, that she could go brash. She can go Angelina. That would be great. I prefer you go Angelina. I would like to see what that looks like with her body taste. Yeah, it's probably like really really really cute. Like I like that taste for her. Listen, look at Porscha. She's having a nice time. It's a wave. It's a vibe. It's a vibe.

52:36 Speaker 1: It's so funny because remember that reunion.

52:38 Speaker 3: Drew was like, oh, I like she was trying to give it to Porschae for like accusing her of having been.

52:43 Speaker 1: With tie or whatever, right, uh huh?

52:46 Speaker 3: And then and Portia was like, maybe I'll have a tie behind me next time.

52:50 Speaker 1: Yes, I loved it, I said, ooh I did.

52:53 Speaker 2: I parked up then, and I'm so glad you said I forgot She said that because here we are, and you know she's young. Yeah, she's younger than me to wish. My wife responded, you mean I had a chance for porche Wait, how how old IS's girlfriend?

53:09 Speaker 1: I think she's twinty eight? She really? Yes? Okay? How old jet it? How you live?

53:15 Speaker 2: Uh?

53:15 Speaker 1: Not that forty? Okay. Porschia looks so young to me.

53:19 Speaker 3: Porschia seems like she could be twenty five still to me, just because like she's just so like, oh.

53:23 Speaker 2: You know, for real, when I say when I think, I posted a picture of her just today with her girlfriend because her girlfriend wished her happy birthday and literally, oh no, not a happy birthday.

53:33 Speaker 1: Her birthday is in June. Maybe she just missed her watch his on girls trip or something, and she.

53:37 Speaker 2: Literally, I said, you wouldn't even know that there's like an over ten year age gap between these two people. No, like at all, they look identical in age. She's forty four. She really, yes, you would never know. She stopped aging pretty much when she got on here.

53:52 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, she looks she looks like her energy is very youthful. Like, yeah, she just looks wrong.

53:58 Speaker 3: Like it's gonna be hard for me to imagine her like as like a seventy or eighty or ninety year old woman.

54:04 Speaker 1: Just because it's like she's just so like kind of juvenile.

54:08 Speaker 3: But that's not I don't mean it in a pejorative way, Like I don't mean that like as an insult at all. I mean it like a compliment. Tell us how you really feel I'm realizing as I said, I'm like, is that nice? I don't really think there's a complimentary way to say she's very juvenile.

54:23 Speaker 2: Patrece McKenny, I wonder if she has that's our girlfriend. I wonder if she has.

54:27 Speaker 1: Any ties to Dimitrian McKinney. How I have to look into that.

54:31 Speaker 2: Because Dimitria McKinny used to be also on Housewives as a friend of years ago.

54:38 Speaker 1: I don't know what your relationship with the Housewives of Atlanta.

54:40 Speaker 2: Is and how far exact when did she come in, Dimitri McKenny is. She was on there as a friend of of Kenya when Roger Bob what Roger Bob with the ballhead he was she was like his like at the time, like proto je slash girlfriend and she was like doing a play or something.

54:58 Speaker 1: The thing I remember, Hi, Yeah.

55:01 Speaker 2: That's Mutria beginning only because I know because she's on a show that I love. The Black community held onto holds on to Tyler Perry's creation is way too long, and she's still on a show called Tyler Perry's House of Pain that's still in production. It shouldn't be Like if AI wrote the script, it would be better. It would be And that's that's saying a lie because I really hate AI scripts. I can tell when a TV episode has been written by AI.

55:24 Speaker 1: I just can't.

55:25 Speaker 2: And I'm here to tell you House of Pain, including Demetrius acting and the script that she is given that she cannot DVA from. I'm like, damn, it would be better if the computer wrote that. It really would It would be a stark improvement. But Tyler Perry refuses to let any writers in the room other than himself, but spreads himself to things. So I just want to know if there's any relation to her, because that would be interesting, especially since.

55:49 Speaker 1: It's Atlanta, you know what I mean, Alanta I am, and.

55:52 Speaker 2: She's so much younger, So I will be in the subreddits of Atlanta for that. The Housewives news is just then popping lately also, like there's just been so much the girls have been outside. It's been a really nice time to be a Housewife fan, like in general, like they're outside, they're doing stuff, they're having a good time. I want to get back to close up on Salt Lake City's Part three because Bronwyn said that she's the person that separated from from Tide and that she is the reason that, you know, it didn't work out.

56:25 Speaker 1: He wanted.

56:26 Speaker 2: She wanted herself to get to a place where she might be comfortable with being open. I find Bronwyn to be a little bit like calculated, like she lets us. I think she's so smart, not in a bad way, and not even calculated in a bad way.

56:40 Speaker 1: I just think she knows what.

56:41 Speaker 2: She's doing and I think that all the ladies, it was interesting that they zoomed it on every woman's face outside of Whitney, Like save Whitney, who was more emotional and going through and relating in a different way. All the other ladies seem like they were processing very interestingly the fact that she's on Housewives and she separated, and they were like, huh, because you know what we all say, come on Housewives to get divorced, like, and it's just it's giving.

57:09 Speaker 1: Yeah.

57:09 Speaker 3: No. She I also was surprised that she walked back the wanting to be open thing because that whole conversation really bizarre.

57:17 Speaker 1: It came out of left fucking field. I was like with it was like, no, wait a minute.

57:24 Speaker 3: The conversation with Todd on camera, which I was just like, ah, this is not gonna go well, like, you.

57:30 Speaker 1: Know, no, he does not like this.

57:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very clear he doesn't like having his business out there on the show, you know, Andy asking her like did he want you to leave the show, and she's like no, but I think they would have come to that or something, and they all were like, you they.

57:46 Speaker 3: Hated the show, like he hated everything about the show, And I don't I don't like Todd anyway, so I'm like, fine, bron when leave him like thrive. But yeah, she definitely is. I mean she's had a strange relationship with her mother and like with the people in general. So she a lot of the stuff that she does, like she's very self aware.

58:07 Speaker 1: At times, she's super self aware.

58:10 Speaker 3: But then it also like still does like some of the weird defense mechanism things, and it's just like I have a hard time.

58:17 Speaker 1: I want to get into her more in this wants to be very accepted.

58:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, but the way her like even the tone of voice that she's like, so Todd and I are separated, like that very like whispery kind of affected voice that she uses to be blind.

58:33 Speaker 1: She wasn't using it the entire time. She was just like I'm gonna handle its very gently. Yeah. Yeah, it's very sensitive to me. Yeah, and so ask me what you want to want.

58:42 Speaker 2: But it's not so sensitive that you you this is voluntary information.

58:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I get voluntary.

58:48 Speaker 3: She baffles me a lot, like she right when I think I get her, then like she does the thing where she's like, well I didn't want to say anything, but I saw Seth with a woman at ant date.

58:56 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was shed. She's really good with words.

59:00 Speaker 2: And as a person who's really good with words, I grew up being told all the time that I could be very manipulative, like yeah, I mean I could sell water to a fish, I could get anyone to do anything. I was bullied a lot for being a little like kid with allergies, so I became a bullie.

59:17 Speaker 1: Didn't have to lift the finger.

59:18 Speaker 2: I'm just very good at telling people about themselves in words, and so it's hard, you know, heavy is the head the words, the crown of somebody who understands words very well. But Gromwin when she's good with it, I feel triggered. Sometimes I'm like, ooh, girl, I know what you did, and she's like, I didn't say I saw him on the day. And even though I said we saw them several times, she keep dropping new info in the sentence when she's saying that I never inten I never, and she sounds genuine she puts it on.

59:46 Speaker 2: She really does sound like I did not mean it a tall about image. I don't know who he is with when I saw We don't know who he is with. But you're admitting you're saying that he's with someone. I don't know who he's with the few times that we saw him while we were in so you are saying that he has a side piece. And Meredith like stopping seeing any things about the marriage. I said nothing about your marriage. Girl, You're acting like we don't know. This is like with someone in the house that is like about twenty one miles away from my house, and it is White does when he is on c SPAN and other shows and other networks talking about stuff, do not fance.

1:00:22 Speaker 1: On me and tell me I am not wet and yellow. Don't do that.

1:00:25 Speaker 2: You said it, I'm right here, and she does that. It does make me crazy. I don't like when people argue tonality and words and say own it. And just because she uses her words and she owns her shit. Yeah, you own your shit because you can talk yourself out of it real easily.

1:00:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know you can put way to put it, you can talk your way out of it.

1:00:45 Speaker 1: She knows that.

1:00:45 Speaker 2: She can't, like she knows that she can bullshit her. So she's like yelling at least is like you can't bullshit a bullshit her. That's pretty much what she say, She's like, I own it. I say it, yeah, this and that. But I'm like, yeah, but you won't say that. You can't want to show that your divorce yes or no, yeah, because we don't watch you get your citizenship, a house, this move your You made sure to not bad talk him the entirety of the thing, so that when this goes to a court one day, it will never be a problem how you bad talked to him.

1:01:14 Speaker 1: Dree is not that bright. We all see.

1:01:16 Speaker 2: That he's not a good idea her line of doing this, But she did that.

1:01:21 Speaker 1: It's so interesting because Ronwind did that all this reunion.

1:01:25 Speaker 2: But made sure that her entire package, maybe she didn't make sure, but production made sure her entire package looked a lot more like their marriage was on the outs. Then we got to see, you know an except for over time, we saw so much like sporadically because everybody was just young ye Lisa most of the season that you realize every package they had was that negative and there were things that like we saw Todd being a dick, but like she's just one of those people that's like she's she benefits from knowing that you will disappoint her, Like she really felt like she please don't eat that cherry.

1:02:05 Speaker 2: I think Mary had a point where she was just like I thought it was cute and funny because like maybe y'all was joking, And then Angie even said maybe if they were in a better place, that would be that way. But I'm like, but if they were in a better place, would that be something he would do? In which case you saying that in him doing that, maybe he thought y'all were in that place? Does he have reason to believe did he have reason to believe then that y'all were not in that good place that he couldn't take your cherry and do that, Like, I want to know more about how bad he thought it was as well during this time, or did you have the package that you wanted of how bad it looks, how much you're not appreciated, Like I'm not invalidating the experience, but did you just have the evidentiary.

1:02:51 Speaker 1: Support for a judge in this one?

1:02:53 Speaker 2: Because this season, when I saw the package, I was like, was it this bad and we just didn't see it? Did I see all of these all season long? Because he looked like an asshole? But that's why I'm like, how did we get this at it. We know you thought it was in a bad place, but like, does he only think that y'all started beefing when the Twitter thing came up on the plane, but then you brought that up on camera like everything Also that the bad the cracks in their marriage were all brought up on the show by Bronwin because he doesn't film with the women.

1:03:22 Speaker 2: So how else was she going to get the evidence that he is a shit husband if she doesn't talk about what's going on and then show them together just not being in a good place. But I'm like, did he think y'all were in a bad place? Did Todd know there were cracks on your marriage and that's why he didn't want y'all showing them? Or does he not know? Like I'm a little worried, like was he blindsided? Or did you tell him it's because of the cheating because that would have been my straw. Where are you on Twitter?

1:03:48 Speaker 2: I would just say that, But that's not what she said. That's not what's being presented to me.

1:03:52 Speaker 3: He says like one hundred different things like right when you think you yes, handle, you're like, oh no, it's that.

1:03:56 Speaker 2: Oh no, it's that thing, And it all makes sense, it's still really bad. But then she's like, he's an amazing man. He's a great man. Not if he's making out in fart and Win people, that's this terrible man. I'm worried about his health. I'm worried about your health. I'm worried about public health. Like doubt Dick going around in saul Lake City. I don't know about a good man. Why because he bought your mama house and sponsored your Canadian citizenship, So it'll never look like y'all are not You weren't a married couple because you were in love, like you want to make sure it's not a love after lock up there or nanny de fiance thing.

1:04:33 Speaker 1: Nobody's just thinking that.

1:04:34 Speaker 2: It's just so interesting to me because she wants both narratives to be held as facts right now.

1:04:40 Speaker 1: And I think that's interesting.

1:04:41 Speaker 2: So I'm like, Okay, bron Whin, I don't think we're ever gonna know the real hurt because I think she's had to be in survival mode and protect herself and her child all her life. And so if you've ever watched Ginny and Georgia, I feel like Bronwin's a real life Jenny like a real one. No, Georgia the Daughter is Jenny, right, yeah, that's right. If everybody, if anybody, I want to, I know you already watch a lot of TVs your job, and you're so damn good at it.

1:05:07 Speaker 1: If you ever have a moment, you.

1:05:08 Speaker 2: Really should because I do, I think, And y'all let me know if you agree, like to me put a little comment, because Georgia the Mom is basically she's had to get it how she lives since she was a pregnant mom at like a teenage mom in the South with a black man, a black boyfriend in her teen years, and so both parents disassociate from them or disengage with them, and so she's had to get out.

1:05:31 Speaker 1: She lived for her daughter, and her and.

1:05:32 Speaker 2: Her daughter are codependent practically, because like she's had to cut, knive and manipulate. But because she's pretty, she's been able to do that. She'sn't able to get a man to love her. She's been able to get a man to do anything that suddenly a man might disappear. She still has enough money because the insurance was just at the right time and that the right thing. She could sell anything, say anything, she could work her way into any room, and she has to too. And now that she's in, she's like this in this high society area because she'd have made it now she can get in there.

1:06:07 Speaker 2: She has a great place for her daughter, a great school for her daughter to go to, a great environment.

1:06:12 Speaker 1: She don't want her wake up. And now that she's.

1:06:14 Speaker 2: Done that and she can, she goes onto the next big fish. So see what she can do because she isn't solidified herself in society, but she also now has to fit in with these women, has to make sure her daughter and everything has the things that she needs, has to send money back home to her family, and take care of her brother. It's like she just reminds me of a real life Browa because also she's so smart. Even though she's had like a rough hand, she's so smart and the fact that she's had a rough hand validates her experience and what she sells even more because the emotion behind it is real, because the experience behind it is real.

1:06:50 Speaker 2: She's just also really good at making sure she'll be okay and saying what she has to say to be okay. And even on this show on Salt Lake City, Brown is really good making sure that she she got herself in good with this group, and then boom, now that she's in good with the group, she can be not good friends with Lisa, she can divorce Todd. She solidified her sec her next season. This is the second season for her. Yeah, and she got.

1:07:17 Speaker 1: Divorced and she's and she's she's gonna stick around.

1:07:20 Speaker 2: So I just saw on our package was so much more Browin is in a terrible marriage place than I thought we saw. And then it pivoted at her own invitation into a downward spiral of how bad it is and why it's.

1:07:35 Speaker 1: Like not going great.

1:07:36 Speaker 2: He had to leave. You got him to leave, but it's at your discretion. I just think that's so interesting that she were able to do that, and we all walked away from it. People watching walked away from her one way, but each housewife, I challenge you, if y'all haven't seen it yet, looked at their faces. It was interesting. They were side eyeing each other, they were looking down. It was just a very interesting response. Save Whitney, who apparently also going through something with Justin of the same well.

1:08:03 Speaker 3: It's also they already had the one the weird experience with her in the season where she had told them like Todd moved out, told Todd to get his shouldn't leave, and then when they're in Greece, she's like, what are you talking about? I've never said that, and they're like, wait, so they air probably trepidacious. When she has some announcements, they're like, which, we don't know if it's announcements.

1:08:25 Speaker 1: Brittany does not know what an announcement is. I love that.

1:08:28 Speaker 2: I've heard various podcasts of all sorts and all genres who watch Bravo as well, because of course they do, they have good taste, mentioned that Brittany doesn't know what an announcement is, and I just find that so funny, because, Wow, I don't think Brittany is antes Semitic, but I do think she's not.

1:08:45 Speaker 1: She has not the brightest, the slightest of a clue.

1:08:48 Speaker 3: No, yeah, like she I thought that Meredith always takes it too far, so then you're like, Meredith, yeah, Brittany.

1:08:55 Speaker 1: But like Brittany did not.

1:08:57 Speaker 3: Brittany did not seem like she really understood, like the fact that that happened, that she got this contact from this nail tech guy who was like, please help me out with my reviews and then was told, oh my god, what are you doing supporting this guy because of this that happened? And she responds, I only saw the one thing?

1:09:18 Speaker 1: Whatnot else?

1:09:22 Speaker 3: Seeing like what's the thing you saw that? You were like, that's okay, that's that's not that bad?

1:09:28 Speaker 1: What? And then like not a bigot?

1:09:31 Speaker 3: And then like Meredith like would be upset about that because Meredith but yes, exactly, but like Meredith wanted to keep it off the show, it seems, and that she was like, that's why she's like, let me talk to her, like with the producer's like I told the producer that no one's gonna get why I'm so mad at her, and so I want to talk about it. But then Britney flipped out, which I bet she did.

1:09:54 Speaker 1: I bet she did. She just did it. I'm watching her.

1:09:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, So she ran off like she got off off easy. She did because Meredith like was like, well, I'm just saying, maybe she's a bigot.

1:10:05 Speaker 1: Maybe that's why she's never been nice to me.

1:10:07 Speaker 2: You're like, you take it too far, Like, no, you can say that though it may feel that way, it's just that like she also knew that this hurt me, and I was still upset about that. So going forward, I was still mad about this, and so it looked like more than it probably should have, or then what was necessary.

1:10:26 Speaker 3: Because Andy tried to like give it to Andy's like, but she hasn't done other things that make you feel that she's anti medic.

1:10:32 Speaker 2: At the beginning, not because you're Jewish though, correct or yes, like she's like, he's saying that.

1:10:38 Speaker 1: But it felt targeted because she doesn't like you.

1:10:42 Speaker 2: Meredith America also say she felt targeted, but it's not because Mary is black, because Mary don't.

1:10:48 Speaker 1: Lack her either. In Brittany too yelled at her about that.

1:10:52 Speaker 3: I could not support Mary's response to brittany more than I do. That's the only way I want to see anyone interact with Brittany. I love when Mary's like, oh, I'm not even gonna bother like you just be quiet, like you.

1:11:06 Speaker 1: Just She's like, you don't feel bad for being mean to me? No, I don't, not really, you can't you really annoyed?

1:11:16 Speaker 2: She always I am not a victim. She says that she runs away sobbing. Hey girl, it's given victim right now, and then you're out of reunion and you're out of here,

1:11:31 Speaker 2: but came back, came to because, but came.

1:11:34 Speaker 3: Back and interrupted Mary and Meredith, who were in the middle of a fucking conversation. And Meredith, Meredith, Meredith, They're like, Mary's like, what is happening?

1:11:44 Speaker 1: Is this like, because this can't really be happening. Just shut up. Okay, that's it. That's it.

1:11:49 Speaker 3: That's all I got. And you know we already talked about this, so shut up, okay, all right.

1:11:53 Speaker 2: Meredith is like, all right, well, I'm gonna let this thing that I took. I mean, you know, I'm gonna let this vibe settle. And then Andy and them are like, no, wait a minute. They were in a conversation, we were addressing some shit.

1:12:06 Speaker 1: I wanted to know what was going on. Whitney was like, hold on.

1:12:09 Speaker 2: Honestly, though I don't love Whitney, she's the only person who took any accountability this reunion, and she apologized this episode for the way she said what she said and using the words and in singuining the mirth was an alcoholic or popping pills and projecting her own experience without excusing it.

1:12:27 Speaker 3: She stormed off. But there's a lot of runoffs. It was a little different of a storm off. It was more like I'm actually asking for a break.

1:12:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, a break.

1:12:36 Speaker 3: Yeah she did, she did, And I was like, okay, that's the different type of walk off, Like that's a I don't know why that was a respectable one, because it's like, okay, yes, their mental health should be considered.

1:12:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, especially she's feeling super triggered by bron when leaving, just justin leaving Todd for you know, putting, for doing all the fuck ups, and she somehow projected that onto herself. God bless her, and ones like damn, now my moment is now about waity okay, but Whitney was like really trying to feel for her. Is just that Whitney was the only one having an emotional response because everybody else was looking at each other crazy for the huh.

1:13:13 Speaker 3: Because well literally she made them feel nuts when they were when they brought it up.

1:13:17 Speaker 1: Angie was wild for the way she brought it up. Though.

1:13:19 Speaker 3: She's like, oh, are you looking for a third when we're here in Greece. It's like whoa, Angie exactly, like that's not really we need to say.

1:13:26 Speaker 1: That y at the dinner table. But like, why are we doing that right now?

1:13:31 Speaker 3: But then like ron Win's response was like I don't know what you're talking about, and then they all felt crazy.

1:13:37 Speaker 1: Yeah I don't.

1:13:37 Speaker 2: Yeah I would have felt crazy too, so they'd be like, so you admit it, okay, yeah, great, glad to or we don't know how to support you because we didn't know anything was going on.

1:13:47 Speaker 1: Yes, again, I'm like, did Todd then? Also?

1:13:50 Speaker 2: Did he know that it was so bad that you were leaving him right now, that you would be leaving him valuable? And if he did, at what point?

1:13:58 Speaker 1: Like did he?

1:13:59 Speaker 2: Is it because of the Twitter thing? Because that would be enough for me. It's just that's not what you're saying, Like when did it exactly? But the package makes it look like it's been going on for a long ass time. He's been disrespectfully taking your cherries even though you know will piss you off.

1:14:12 Speaker 1: But like, why he just reminded me of what she said?

1:14:16 Speaker 3: Didn't she say that Todd watched every episode of Salt Lake yes, season one, yes, and then yes yes, But then I couldn't tell what she said he gathered from it because was it helpful to know? Why would he need to watch why would he need one for like, but if she's not even on it, like, why would that need to be research.

1:14:43 Speaker 1: He's like, is this how I treat you?

1:14:44 Speaker 2: And I'm like, I mean, I guess you could see that he's an asshole, Which again, then why did he film this way?

1:14:50 Speaker 1: In this way?

1:14:51 Speaker 2: I just did he know he was being an asshole when he took the cherry and it would make you cry?

1:14:55 Speaker 1: Did he do it?

1:14:56 Speaker 2: Because I don't understand the response or I don't I don't know. I just it's it's it just I feel icky. I'm not blaming a woman for her exactly, you know, because my mom was in a marriage that she didn't love for way longer than she should have been. And so if it's not good for you, girl, leave I wanted to know that he knows that it wasn't good for her. For her, it's easy, like.

1:15:16 Speaker 1: He really wanting? Is he really like? What's the problem? Am I really like?

1:15:20 Speaker 3: Do you really think I don't look at you when I talk to you? I'm like, right, are you asking because you saw it and thought that? Or why are you asking her to clarify what I'm just The whole segment was I was left confused, but her whole.

1:15:35 Speaker 2: Also like did he so then if he did that, how did you feel about what you said on the boat? Did he address the fact that you called him an emotional abuser sometimes and like or had an emotional affair or something?

1:15:45 Speaker 1: Did you did he address that? Because I would love to know. Did she mean he watched from her the start of her season? If he did, that's still in that boat.

1:15:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, because like that's that makes more sense because I'm like, why would that man torture himself and go back and watch all of this show from season one?

1:16:03 Speaker 2: Right exactly? Huh, I don't understand. And literally it just kind of ended like that, like that was just it. It was just like, all right, we're gonna end on the positive.

1:16:11 Speaker 1: Nope. Yeah, it was a clunky, clunky ending, absolutely, like oh we at the end, I had to check, I said, did I skip something?

1:16:19 Speaker 3: This felt like this would have been like the part two if it was it, because I already think we should only have two parts anyway, like the three parts can kind of unless it's really worthy of it.

1:16:29 Speaker 2: Exactly, this could have been to one and a half hours and we would have been fine. Yeah, hour and fifteen put some mans in there, We're good to go. Yep, you didn't need so we didn't need much, but we were given a lot this season and we are looking forward to next seasonily before we get out of here, I'd love to know, Also, what else are you watching that's giving you joy? What are you watching You're taking a step away from the Bravo things? What's making you like? What are you hyped up.

1:16:58 Speaker 1: About right now? Bringing me joy?

1:17:02 Speaker 2: So?

1:17:02 Speaker 3: I know it's called the Valley Persian Style, but I just call it. I call it Shaws of the Valley because I just that say, I just it's so much better.

1:17:11 Speaker 1: There has to be. There has to be.

1:17:13 Speaker 3: I have a theory that the reason they didn't call it that, because I mean, it's right there, like it's right there, is that.

1:17:20 Speaker 1: When they pitched the show, in order.

1:17:22 Speaker 3: To get it picked up, they had to be like tacking on to an already tried and true. So they were probably like, hey, you know how the Valley did so well with like Kristen and.

1:17:31 Speaker 1: Jack's that's truth.

1:17:33 Speaker 3: What about if we the same production company, because we're all here in the Valley, will do the Valley Persian style and so like to sell it to advertisers and bases because.

1:17:42 Speaker 1: Whenever they do remarket a named show or something.

1:17:46 Speaker 3: In sum Martha's Vineyard, yeah, yeah, yeah, it does better when you attach it to something versus just calling it something else. Yeah, And honestly, Summer House Martha's Vineyards should have never been called that. It should have just been its own fucking thing, because it wasn't like trying to compare it to the regular Summer House is where they got kind of screwed up.

1:18:03 Speaker 1: I think it could have just been like more about like them. I don't know, but.

1:18:07 Speaker 3: I'm watching Tell Me Lies, Yes I look, I'm covering it on my Patreon, and I do very much enjoy the show.

1:18:15 Speaker 1: But I also, like, really really hate the.

1:18:19 Speaker 3: Way Jackson White is doing the character of Steven, because I know we're supposed to hate him, but because Jackson makes the worst choices, he's not even a good villain, so like no one understands like why they're even friends with this guy, And I'm like, this could have been the role of a lifetime dude. This could have been like that villain you love to hate, but like you give him, like you make him like a serial killer kidnapper when you go into likes.

1:18:45 Speaker 1: I'm like, what genre are we in now? Like, he's just driving me crazy.

1:18:50 Speaker 3: So if you want to hear me talk shit about him as an actor, I do a lot of that on my coverage. But I am liking the show. I do like the fun and the thrill of that show show for sure.

1:19:00 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, everybody is super tyched about teld Me Lies. I hear about it all the time. I have yet to start this season. I'm getting in it very soon. I knew it. The whole his and Hers thing, you know, was so so good.

1:19:16 Speaker 1: It's a range.

1:19:18 Speaker 2: Book as well if people are readers, and it's different enough that you'll still enjoy it.

1:19:23 Speaker 3: Oh, it is so freaking good. That ending was just absolutely fantastic.

1:19:28 Speaker 1: I was cheering. That was so good. Yeah, it was so well done.

1:19:33 Speaker 2: If you haven't done that, that one's on Netflix. Tell Me Lies is on Hulu, let's see. I am also loving the Valley Persian style. I think that it is so good. I love Gig. I'm so glad to have her back on my screen. I relate to her so heavily. Sometimes it's just her need to be high all the time to handle normal situations when she's not working. Is like he said, be social. It's like, oh god, so I love that show. I do watch Industry. I love Industry.

1:20:02 Speaker 1: Mama. My mama text me about industry all the time. We chat. Are you caught up?

1:20:06 Speaker 2: Like?

1:20:06 Speaker 1: Have you been almost caught up? I actually have it on pause. We're done. Yeah, it'll be the.

1:20:11 Speaker 2: Next thing that I do when I have my snacks, you know, for my afternoon.

1:20:15 Speaker 1: It's most recent one.

1:20:16 Speaker 2: Yes, this most recent one. So I'm so excited. Okay, you guys, thank you so much for listening. Emily, thank you so much for being here. Where can the.

1:20:24 Speaker 1: People find you if they already don't know where you are? I mean, where y'all?

1:20:29 Speaker 3: If that's I'm got to be so bad at I'm so bad at doing these. Okay, I'm gonna try, but I'm very bad at these. Okay, here's my pitch.

1:20:34 Speaker 1: Here's my pitch.

1:20:35 Speaker 3: Okay, you find she's speaking with Emily Hanks on YouTube and also anywhere you listen to podcasts, and I have a Patreon same name. That's for like the shows I'm covering that I don't want everyone else to hear on the main feed because people get rowdy when I talk about those shows, you know what I mean, like Summer House or whatever. And then I also have Instagram and I have TikTok. Even though I'm very embarrassed, I still have TikTok. I would love to delete that damn app, but I can't right now.

1:21:04 Speaker 2: Don't be embarrassed. It's my dopamine. I allow myself thirty minutes tonight. Yeah, right before I get in the shower to have some tiktoks.

1:21:12 Speaker 1: Thirty minutes. That's actually like really impressive, thank you. It always goes far beyond.

1:21:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I feel like I feel like one of those It's one of those apps. And when I open it, I'm like, why can't I stop? Just turn just close it?

1:21:26 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah.

1:21:27 Speaker 2: The worst is like if you do it in the bed, you'll never get off and you'll never go to sleep.

1:21:31 Speaker 1: So you have to do it outside of the bed.

1:21:33 Speaker 2: And so I forced myself to get into the shower and when I'm out of the shower, once I get into bed, it has to be something else.

1:21:38 Speaker 1: I read a book so you could tell you.

1:21:40 Speaker 3: I could tell you have add like I do, because the way you have all those like rules, like you're like I do it here, and then I wouldn't get in the shower right after, because then that's the next thing that I'm gonna do. Because then like because sometimes getting in a shower is really hard if you have add because like, yeah, I gotta so much happens once you start.

1:22:02 Speaker 2: So many things, so many projects, because I can't deny all of them. You have to do all of the steps or it doesn't even count. So I was like, so much has to sacrifice. So my TikTok is like my reward. I have it stacked. I'm gonna shower. I will TikTok while I'm doing my shower routine and then shout out to TikTok shop because I did get one of those things where I can put the thing, the phone in the shower, just so that I can scroll TikTok Okay, that's it.

1:22:28 Speaker 1: That's all I want to do, is well, is scroll TikTok all in my cart. As we speak, I'm purchasing it, get it, saying get it.

1:22:36 Speaker 2: I love myself, three dope and me purchases on payday, when I get paid for my actual job or when I get money from the internet, I always say I have to get something from the internet. That's just keep it in a float, baby, that's economy, that's e commerce. Listen, y'all, thank you for listening to me cutting up with Emily, and just as always, please make sure you go listen to my Traders episode from before. I'm looking to get Kendrick on here. I know you listening while you're on that treadmill, so you will say, yes, you will come to me back on the pot and talk Traders with me for our next our Housewives looking you know, dinner, but we'll see, y'all get them on here at some point to talk Traders.

1:23:13 Speaker 1: I had the time of my life with you. Emily. Thank you so much for being here again. We'll have to have you come back on again.

1:23:18 Speaker 2: But y'all know she looked in busy on them charts any covering all the shows like I listened to cover all the shows that I don't cover and don't have the bandwidth all the focus to do. So you go and listen to she's speaking with Emily Hanks. Thanks for listening to me here on Patreon the visuals and all the other good things add free episodes as well. Get into that patreon dot com slash mixing with Money on threads and Instagram at Mixing with Money, m I x I n G few I T H M A n I and it's always stay happy, stay safe, stay home.

1:23:52 Speaker 2: If you got ice near you, honey, do not go slipping and sliding. Okay, don't wear it. There's no shoe that's safe. I slid in crocs and I slit in tims. There's nothing that's safe, not in no boots, nothing. So stay in the house. Okay, I'm literally sitting on ice. Okay, y'all take care of yourselves and try to take care of somebody else if you can.

1:24:10 Speaker 1: Love you, Thanks for listening, Baye