209. Peace Offerings & Rental Home Pillows-RHOBH & RHOSLC w/Mark (@thepinkpopbox)

Speaker 1: Sounds rugg.

Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologists out there. It is your girl Moni and you are in the mix with Moni and Mark. Oh my god, the pink pop box is here and we can hear him. I've never had a request more for someone to come back, so one, we can alter the amount that you are heard, and like the audio is great, into just in general, like I need to hear Mark, I need to hear him. I'm not kidding, I've gotten that. So without further redo, Mark, Hi, welcome back.

Speaker 1: How are you?

Speaker 2: Thank you for being here? Listen, It's rare this happens to me, but I needed a white person on my show to help me drag a white woman because I was afraid I get backlash for being too harsh. But let me tell you Mark, y'all won't know why he's here in a little bit. In a little bit, but let me tell you Mark. I was like, okay, good, I don't have to do the heavy lifting of this opining okay, And I am grateful, But y'all, it's it's tis the season. Housewives are housewiving. We are living in abundance.

Speaker 2: How are you feeling with all three shows. Are you overwhelmed? Are you happy? What are your thoughts about this time in our lives?

Speaker 1: Oh? Look, Salt Lake City never lets me down, never does, never does. I don't care how chaotic it is. I'm down with it. Beverly Hills is always a slow burd It starts slow at first, picks up steam in the middle, and just like any man, gives up at the end. But but I'm hearing this year it's it's it's it's gonna be good.

Speaker 2: No, I do off to a really strong start with Beverly Hill. It was only two episodes, and yet again the second time when the credits went up, I was shocked. I was like, wait, we're done. This is gone. All the days where I'm spending zero time like or I'm like, I'm I'm idly watching or doing something else that was destination television like no, no great Grand Fight or whatever happened. But like from conversation couplings of like Bow's and Rachel's up, I'm in that. I was fully invested. Kyle and Erica at the end, you know her basically explaining her fully invested.

Speaker 2: I'm like, who are these dree and whoever the hell like these matchups. I'm just in something coming to the to help Alexia and now do like registering. I was just like, oh my god, where are these what are these mashups? I was very interested and then like got a lot of content and talking like one thing about the Beverly Hills ladies. They know how to produce themselves and the conversation. They know how to produce a TV show.

Speaker 1: They do they do, And oh, I have so many opinions and I do have some tea on miss Amanda because okay, okay.

Speaker 2: So before you got the tea, what were your thoughts or even still, what are your thoughts about her intro to the show, because I have a little bit of mixed feely feels. While I'm like she could and should work something about that tune is really just like and I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now, the words fraudulent comes to mind. Say again, fraud ulent.

Speaker 2: Oh you know that's my favorite. You know I love talking about a scam now, honey, I love it.

Speaker 1: Oh honey. She comes from the East Coast. She's from New York City, and she used to run with a little group called the Spirit junkies the spirit Oh yes, Queen, there's an author out there. She's a self help spiritual guru. Her name is Gabrielle Bernstein and her collective are called Spirit Junkies. Miss Amanda was one of her top spirit junkies. Miss Amanda, for whatever reason, she and Gabby broke. This was back in twenty thirteen or fourteen, and she came west and the same platform that Gabby uses for her Spirit Junkies, through tears and program to get to the next level, miss Amanda does it for her get rich.

Speaker 1: She's got programs upon programs. It feels very pyramid to me.

Speaker 2: Oh no, not another Whitney. This is sad. Have we learned nothing? She's saying she's the finance Queen or something, or the money Queen something.

Speaker 1: That queen money.

Speaker 2: Is that right?

Speaker 3: Well?

Speaker 1: One of the little spirit Junkies came into my DMS yesterday morning. Yes, they gave me this, They gave me the tea, and Miss Amanda been arrested, not once, but twice.

Speaker 2: Oh my god, I didn't know.

Speaker 1: Twelve twenty twelve, she was arrested. She didn't pay her parking tickets and she got popped and her license got suspended, and in twenty sixteen, she was arrested for dui slash drugs.

Speaker 2: Y'all please want to pay your parking tickets? That reminds me. I got one the other day. I need to pay that.

Speaker 2: My wife was so made at me, but the meter ran out and I didn't run out to it fast enough. So and that's like my biggest fear is going to jail for parking tickets. I know it's like it would have to be like more than one.

Speaker 1: I'm stressed.

Speaker 2: I'm anxious already about the one. I'm like, I'm going to jail. But like and then I read like Star Jones. Did you see that when she thought the rapture was coming, she just like stopped paying stuff. I don't even know how that happened, Like how long did you know about this? And then how did you wrack up that many tickets and not pay them in that short amount of time? It's crazy to me, and uh talk in jail. So y'all pay them. Don't forget leaving in your glove compartment. That's my suggestion, or in your consoles that when when you open the thing, you see it and you go, oh, I gotta pay it.

Speaker 2: That's the.

Speaker 1: Funny Girls. So yes, yes, mister man. That mister man had got a little vie check going on, and that's why she has for a mocktail last night because she's sober.

Speaker 2: Now, oh she said, I don't yeah, okay, so y'all know. So allegedly miss Amanda got a lot of things in that closet that she may not. I don't think we'll be seeing them, but she I would, I would be. It's interesting when people come on the show with so many things in the back, like but in the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe Girl.

Speaker 1: It's gonna go all the way to Narnia with this one. I have a feeling because I hear, I hear she over steps. I heard the streets was talking, and she allegedly over steps with three of thees.

Speaker 2: Very that's crazy.

Speaker 1: Three is a lie.

Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie on this gas. There's not one that I would really want to take on, like especially as a new person, but there's at least two or three that I really would not want to take on because I just feel like we need at some point be fighting a different dirty game and I'm not. I'm new to this and they are true to this. They have been Beverly Hills housewives for quite a while. Okay, we have survived tabloids and and and people leaking stuff and talking about stuff, pulling things out of closet, opening court records that you know, reading or the la time.

Speaker 2: Please Amanda, girl, write that tongue.

Speaker 1: I hear well, I hear Kathy school I heard Kathy Hilton schooled her.

Speaker 2: Oh my god, can you imagine how awful you have to be for Kathy to clock into this reality and read a bitch because Kathy is not with us, So for her step from a rich, balloonhead lady like life and come down with us peasants and be like, no, listen here a bitch. She didn't.

Speaker 1: Oh no, not that.

Speaker 2: Y'all gotta got Kathy to come down and swum it with us. Kathy, And I'm gonna tell you something.

Speaker 1: Once, Erica, look Erica and Lisa Renda brought her down. The brought her down to the gutters that one reunion, and she tore Visa and did and did and did.

Speaker 2: Listen, Our house has of Beverly Hill started off strong. One thing I noted is that like everyone is renting a house, we started with like two rentals off the bat Rachel Zohe we know, because she's like, you know, fresh on this coast and everything, and that's great. I'm happy for her. I'm glad she's here. I love how open she's being. I mean, they say she's going to be even more open. She's a girl, I get real. She said that she gets really real, which is great. I love that she's even though she's new to this group, she's not new to TV and that is somewhat helpful in this situation.

Speaker 2: But she's not forcing it because she's like study Beverly Hill. In factly, I don't think she really launched it, to be honest. I think she was like, oh, yeah, I'm back on Bravo. I've been here before, I'll do it.

Speaker 1: Well she I think when she left, she left at a time when it was a good Brad Gorski and her other assistant, Taylor had left her to pursue their own stylist careers, and she said, you know what, I've got millions upon millions. Let's just focus on our leisure brands and just get out of this Bravo space. And that's what they did.

Speaker 2: Yeah, but I love it now. That she's a strange from her husband. She's like, what I will do is get back on my fucking bullhorn, make a little coin and drag that ass.

Speaker 1: I think so with his little side part.

Speaker 2: Please, I actually think that even divorce is going to be your storyline one. I prefer it over a pregnancy storyline. No offense, no tea, no shade. But I want you to be saying you want to have a hot girl summer. I don't want you to be sober because you're trying to take care of a baby. You know what I'm saying. The potential of Rachel being like, guys, we gotta go out because I'm I'm divorcing and I want to get lit.

Speaker 1: Yeah, these women look she doesn't know where she's playing just yet. Oh yeah no, they eighties don't cut little except for maybe one.

Speaker 2: Yeah, and definitely not definitely not like really in front of us because we Sadly, Rachel looks very disappointed in her hot girl summer experienced by the end of the season. But I just found it funny that Rachel and Mauricio had so much in common and that they're renting homes and had Chanelle pillows on their couch. I don't know why I saw it, but I was like, ware to moget a Chanelle pillow because first I looked at Rachel and was like, silly, get me to ask, but did that come with the house or did she put that in there?

Speaker 2: Or is it furnished? Is it what kind of furnished? Like looks like the TV's off the wall when she moves out and the Chanel pillow.

Speaker 1: Okay, yes?

Speaker 2: And then I'm like, is it like a maybe it's an La Stage or Beverly Hills thing because mo is renting a house and then boom, Chanelle pillow? Is it with the furniture? Because I know how furnished that house himself. Kyle over there bringing towels.

Speaker 1: Look, I think his daughter's probably brought those out.

Speaker 2: You think the daughters got their dad Chanelle pillows for his bachelor pad ho out.

Speaker 1: When they have to stay there? Yes, because remember they said Sophia and Porsia stay there.

Speaker 2: Okay. It's just like they're being really hard on him. I don't know if they I feel like Kyle was being weirdly supportive and encouraging, well, bringing the makeup towels and being like, you know, these aren't for hoes your Oh, these are for the daughters, Okay, but they're being in a professional and being like the fact that he got this house and didn't tell me means that, like he doesn't we are not going to reconcile at some point in the future. I'm like, so, is that what you ultimately want?

Speaker 2: Like it's given we took a little breaky break to explore or something like. I just want to know what her intentions are because she's like, oh, it seems like that door is closed in the future. Well, I wasn't really aware that it was open.

Speaker 1: The way I see it happening. And this is just me that both of them understand. It's a multi billion dollar business. Yeah, and there is no prenuptial agreement, and that's in the state of California. In the domestic situation, they have to split it evenly, fifty to fifty. There's no choice.

Speaker 3: Yea.

Speaker 1: Risio also has a seventeen year old daughter still at home. He would have to also pay the support. Yes, so there and her college and depending what Kyle asks for in the terms of support, she could be well living better than Sutton on a main road. I believe that That's why I think they're being so cordial with each other, because they both know if they go nuclear on each other, it's no good to either one of them.

Speaker 2: Yeah, and that would totally make sense. It just seems like they're on such different pages about what the future holds, because Mauricio is holding Burley's like half his age in the air with his hands under their butt sheets and making out with a different mitch every few months, and Kyle is like pining after this apparently non famous nobody knows country singer and always say that because don't have me out here defending Kyle. But what you mean, you can't put up with this lifestyle, so you don't want people to know who you are?

Speaker 2: Like do you write obscurely like it's Housewives fame? Like it's not fucking Leonardo DiCaprio. She's dating let.

Speaker 1: Me explain she Okay, I thought we were going to cover the slaver since we're talking about now, let's get this out of the way. You've got to remember this woman is coming from Tennessee.

Speaker 2: Yes, that's okay, And her.

Speaker 1: Record label is owned I'm quite sure by good old boys, and the good old boys might know she is a lesbian, yes, but they don't want her. But they don't want her out there on those streets publicly parading it around. So and when she appeared on Housewives, I don't think she realized the exposure that she was going to get and it scared her and she probably.

Speaker 4: Told Kyle, or allegedly told Kyle to let's dial it back publicly and just handle ourselves privately for now until we can figure this out.

Speaker 1: And then it just got worse and worse and worse, and it probably that's why it probably the end.

Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt really sad. I felt really sad for Kyle, uh seeing that, Like it didn't feel like it was very uh like mutually desired to separate. It feels like you know that she even said she was willing to write it out, but you know, she can't control how everybody feels and the thing. And I was just like, oh, okay, but then like why put her in your music video? It's my question.

Speaker 1: But that's when it was still kind of that was still at the fresh start, that was all, yeah.

Speaker 2: But that's a record label thing, Like your love interest is a woman that has been out that was already we had already known that they've been seeing each other going out.

Speaker 1: On lady days. We figured there was Kitty's clicking. We knew this.

Speaker 2: Uh, that shit was all or expected, buddy.

Speaker 1: It's one thing to just suspect it. You can ask your questions and if they say we're not going to answer this, or we can't talk about it, or I don't want to talk about it, then you've got to let it go. Because this is something that I posted on my post about this last night, and it pissed me off because for the past three years, these women on this show, the fans, and the content creators have been hammering at Kyle to come out of the closet. And I'm going to tell you right now, you and me, we can speak from this point of view.

Speaker 1: You cannot force someone to disclose their sexuality before they are ready. If you do force that to happen, sometimes not all the times, irreparable damage can be done.

Speaker 3: Yeah, and has so to all you people out there thinking that you Kyle owes us her sexual preferences in the bedroom, kick rocks, because she does not.

Speaker 1: If she she's dating someone and it happens to be a female and it's caught on camera and they're they're kissing. That's another story.

Speaker 2: I think it's that not just even that they felt owe her sexuality. It's just that that was such a major, like plot twist from a person we feel like we don't get enough about period like free if you or Kyle, I have seen her produce and squeeze like a toothpaste tube everything out of a lot of people, a lot of people. That girl can get. I mean, shout out to her. She can make a scene, she can have girlies talking about the arc. She can squeeze some content out of them ladies, And I'm appreciative. It's just that I know you got something and let me know.

Speaker 2: She knows Shay. For the longest time, I was like, y'all be wanting Ky to share her life. I'm not that interested. I think she's a born housewife. It's fine whatever, she's got gray hair. But this shit was interesting. And I was like, oh, now you're not saying this for you know, you know boring lady today a lesbian country singer. I didn't or at least even have one as a friend. To be honest, it really wasn't giving that like that. She seems like a woman with a bevy of gaze like Erica, but not really like you know, like friends with the the Ligabigga tigger community at large.

Speaker 2: So to be like, excuse one.

Speaker 1: Well, she's deep in with the La gaze. She's deeper with the LA gays.

Speaker 2: They love her, the lesbians too.

Speaker 1: Really, I don't know about look, I don't know that that's she gives me here.

Speaker 2: The game where like the gays, the like the boys by old. I love her. I get it. Kyle's got hair. I agree with Wendy Williams, one of the best hairs on TV. Like when Wendy Williams said that, oh my god, just bringing that lady's career back. I just I hate living in these dark times without Wendy Williams.

Speaker 1: I really miss her.

Speaker 2: I crashed out about it at least once a week. I'm not kidding.

Speaker 1: I always wake up and I look over my little Katy can I said, how you do it?

Speaker 2: Look? There are so many times that I see stuff, including this stuff, like you know, she'd be covering the season. You know, she'd be like, so Kyle came out this guy, or like she like she could go a little of this little of that, you know, Susanne would put it up there and she'd be like, you know, I love that she's living her truth, you know, and she's putting it out there, which I do love. I think that this is the season Kyle Waseen.

Speaker 1: The right time I've ever seen well, Like I said, it's the right time for her to do this, So she's gonna do it, do it now.

Speaker 2: Yeah, she's in a good place. Her daughters are older. I mean, I appreciate how well she wanted to protect him and rock the boat. But and you know what, I appreciate her answering the call of us being like, since you've given us so little of your personal life, now that it's finally gotten interesting and we know, like you went from being madly in love to this man to who was that lady and not for the worst, for the better, we were all very like, please let us cheer for you, girl, say something. So when it came out in the trailer, like, I feel sad again.

Speaker 2: I'm feeling for Kyle. This is but I feel like this is going to be the one season that I connect with her and then I feel for her because I've also been there. Any girly, any gay who's been in a situation, maybe not with like the PDA and the public stuff, but they might be closeted or something. Still, and y'all have a connection and you fail for each other, and it took some it just give me time time. I don't want to not hold your hand. I don't want to not post it on Instagram stories when we're at brunch.

Speaker 2: I don't want to just post a random you know, fork in a random hand. I want to post us and you not. Why not? I mean, listen, I've broken up for less and so I feel.

Speaker 1: Okay, Look, I dated a closeted man back in.

Speaker 2: But we're not. You don't hide us, don't didn't but a light under that bushel.

Speaker 1: I will not be to be to be respectful, say to put you know, to not put it out there on the front street. But the reason we broke up because there's only so many nights of staying in than I was fitting to do in the year of two. Because yeah, it was a young, hory twenty five year old and I had to and I had things to do.

Speaker 2: Yeah, and I get it. You know, Kyle's lived this life for so long, like being in the public eye in some sense, I mean family, past career things, housewives especially like of course, and I can understand that every time she went out would look like even a friendship out in but with the same person multiple times. Yeah, we're on that ass. Yeah, people are looking at it. So I can understand that she's like, well, you know, it's hard for the course for me, like it'll end up on the blogs or whatever.

Speaker 2: But Morgan's like, oh shit, this is every time I step out with you, somebody know about it, and it is on I'm getting scented by all seventeen of my So apparently she's from Virginia my side of Virginia or low alongside of Virginia, so still southern Virginia. But she's like everybody in Virginia texted me from my small town of Floor and being like, what's going on? And you know what? Those are the kind I do know people. I know people who have parents who are just like I accept you and love you. Do you have to do it all out loud?

Speaker 2: Like do you have to make a spectacle of it? They always just suggest that you tone it down or go to the courthouse or something, just like that's just do something small. If I do that it's because I want to, not because I should hide my love you the bitch, thank you.

Speaker 1: I think that's where I think that's where they were at. Kyle happened said I love you, but I gotta let you go.

Speaker 2: I hate that. It's a lot of rejection for Kyle because then also she's seeing in the tmz MO is not rejecting anything or anyone. If she wants to kiss, he don't kiss them. And no, she knows Shaye, but he admitted he's in his whole shape, his whole face as well. He's like the daughter said, I'm in my whole face, and you know, Kyle is like weirdly supportive of that. But right now she's single. And I appreciate your perspective on how that went about, probably in their relationship, because I was just worried that she like broke up with Morgan or something for so that she wouldn't have to talk about it on the show and so she could say she was single.

Speaker 2: Like I knew that was a far cry, but I was like, I hope she didn't like do this so she wouldn't like have people up in her business while she was filming, because I'd understand it but I'd hate that for her totally.

Speaker 1: I was glad they was eric because she told it.

Speaker 2: To me too. Me too. I mean, well it had to be, honey, Because if we back up a little bit, I do have to give a little bit of criticism because why is this lady defending that man PK. I don't understand it, like I really can rooting for Kyle, and I don't really understand the devil's advocate for this man. I get it you've been skiing with them and all these things, but also you've been skiing with dor Ret like that is your friend. P K has friends, he has your husband the fellow ho to be his friend.

Speaker 1: I think their shit we just don't know about.

Speaker 2: There has to be because the way Kyle was so quiet, but first the way she was like meet him in the middle. Why And I I am the person. I'm a kid of divorce in my teen years, so I actually really are identified with Jagger and like the older kids who of like Rachel's who you know something's wrong, Like I knew my parents didn't like each other. That's putting it lightly mildly for at least ten years before they separated and got divorced. And they got divorced when I was They separated at seventeen and had to stay separated for a year before the divorce could be finalized.

Speaker 2: And so for ten years before that, I knew my parents did not like each other, and I could tell, I could feel it. I used to ask about the divorce thing all the time. So I understand you want to keep it like reconcilable, but that's usually not the case. And there is always a time in divorce where when you are married to a narcissist, and I've been often, you know, very public about how I am the jolt of a narcissist. They do try to make your life hell. They do do things just to hurt you without any repercussions of what else is happening, and they do become the worst version of not any themselves.

Speaker 2: They become a worst version of what you ever imagined it would be going through this. So it's like I have that's probably it's memories the lower for me. So I I really I felt for Durit because I've seen my mother go through this where it's like you're hurting your child to hurt me, and that's diabolical to me. But they do it. There are people that.

Speaker 1: Do this child. And let me tell you my thinking is p K is afraid that if he loses sight of these kids or if they leave the West Coast, they ain't coming back, and Durit's gonna bank out with those kids, and then she's going hit him with the big stuff the second time.

Speaker 2: But I also feel like Dey loves being in Beverly Hills and loves being on Housewives Hills, and as long as she can be, she will be because it affords her rent the runway collection. And I do think in her quints and all of that, you know, one hundred rent a stylist. This is like it's how she's able to do what she does. I mean, at the moment, we know it's likely how she's supporting herself because I do believe that he's not paying nothing because hello again, me seventeen, Hello me seventeen. Nothing not a dime, not a thing, not anything, And like it's interesting to me.

Speaker 2: I won't say that house to surprise he is your asshole, But I mean it's like, did you not? I don't know if I ever saw PK not be like it wasn't out of my realm of possibility that he would be this big of an asshole right now, which is why I'm like looking at Kyle a little bit like I can't help the fact that I've known this person, I've met him, and I've had experience with him. None of that, necessarily, to me, means you have to stick up for him or even play Devil's advocate to and in front of a group to your former friend, even because you've met and had experience with him, because you've known and had experiences with Derey.

Speaker 2: And also, I don't feel like all your experiences with PK have been so deep, intimate, gentle and everything. I don't find PK to be. I think he doesn't hide his ass forhole very well all the time.

Speaker 1: Now, Well, remember his first year on the show with he was.

Speaker 2: Called right and also she's like, all these women are pushing you to say this or not to do this, and she takes one. I was loll and when she said she doesn't take the advice from me the way she takes it from all the other girls, Like you gave two different sets of advice, my love you. I hear what you're thinking, but you were saying, well, that's meeting him in the middle. It's not She's just preparing her kids and calling his bluff and sending him anyway, versus being like, Okay, you go and I'll stick.

Speaker 2: No, I'm not communicating with You're a fucking asshole. So sorry, y'all. I hate assholes, I really do, especially when you have kids. I think that's an exemption. But Erica's known PK for years.

Speaker 1: I just want you to think about this and the respect that I think Darik does a lot of shit off camera that we don't know, and she carries herself in a different manner off the show. And you gotta remember that when she read Kyle's text message to Erica at that reunion, that was the biggest breach of trust. Kyle is not gonna ride for you anymore. Once you do something like that, you betrayed her.

Speaker 2: Well, she felt betrayed because why are you talking to this man? I still am like that really upset me. I don't care if y'all have been friends before. There's no reason for you to be texting your home girls soon to be as husband. I don't understand that because Kyle used to also say that she to be a girl's girl and let me tell y'all something on Housewives, every time you say you're a girl of girl, we get solid proof that you are not like Angel over there in Potomac. I'm coming for you next, because she introduced herself as the girls go you in a good time.

Speaker 2: You two are confused.

Speaker 1: I just think there's a It's a very complex relationship. They were never close to start with. It was a rivalry that turned into a situationship with puppy Gate, and they just kind of got locked in together from there on.

Speaker 2: The Fab five alliance from years ago, Box or five. Yeah, that's it. I'm so glad those days are over, my love, My god. I hated that Get Friends. It really did just give allies who will like be wolves together like as a pack, like you got to go against all of it was like a stone wall, which is like, what'd y'all do that for?

Speaker 1: Garsell girl, don't even get me started on that.

Speaker 2: Let's start on that sudden strap. Let me say this, this is the kindest thing gonna say about her all episode her her tagline scene, like her beginning intro stunning.

Speaker 2: I thought her hair, I've met long bone, straight hair on her. She should do more. It took ten years off her life. Like I was like, shocked, did she looked that good body with tea like dress could be a little bit better? But I thought her hair was so good and she looked so much younger than when she wears her roller stack bob, like you know what the you know, it's just giving it. Really, when she wears the short like the shoulder length bob, it gives Southern divorce a It just exactly what I don't want you to give it.

Speaker 2: We are on Housewives of Beverly Hills. Rachel Zou doesn't give Southern devo. Even Erica doesn't give Southern divorce a no, and so I just want her to level up. So when I see her intro and I see that we took a risk and it wasn't a shift dressed from the sixty some big you know, twiggy earrings or whatever and like a blowout with a swoop side bank bob, I was like, now she stick it to the twenty whatever century this is and met us with the forty two inch bus down. Let's get it, let's.

Speaker 1: Do it all right, I'll let you have that.

Speaker 2: And I had to say something, and I knew I was gonna have an issue with her. I'm glad she wasn't much in this episode because I really don't want to see much of her. I actually think that her and Jennifer Tilly could swap thank you details similarly.

Speaker 1: I love me some Tilly. I've met Jennifer Tilly at a horror convention. She's love.

Speaker 2: Oh my god, I mean, I'm so fascinated. I love that one. She knew the Chanelle. She remembered the Chanelle campaign from nineteen eighty five. The lady is fashion. She knows it, she breathes it, she gets it. She knows this is her stuff. Okay, I absolutely love how fricking insanely wealthy she is to be able to love and enjoy fashion to the extent that she does. Her little voice is crazy. She's kind of funny and exciting. Her problems aren't really real. It's goody, you know.

Speaker 1: She and her she and her sister are incredibly talented actors. But she's got so much money, Honey, it's disgusting.

Speaker 2: And I love being here. I love the were even getting back to the price tags on things. I love that I saw everybody home price sizes. How many bedrooms that mo God versus Rachel versus how many square feet? I was like, oh, that's pretty big, very nice you have. I love that we're getting back to the label. Was the barking off are you freaking kidding me? When but the alleged scamper of the crew of the crew had the cheapest one, my wife pointed out. I was just like the first fact, and then she was like, yeah, but the new girl got the cheapest one.

Speaker 2: I said, oh, yes.

Speaker 1: That's cute. Like I was like, girl, I was not a compliment.

Speaker 2: No, no, it wasn't. She said, we got the memo. Yeah, guys just killed Oh no, listen, you have some strong feelings about sudden on behalf of especially I know something's going on because the way she be answering the questions about OBV is so dodgy, so shaped follow me now, yes, so happy for you, love that he is part of a gud pinky pop box and and joined the right side. We love you over here, Auvy, Because I'm like, whenever people answer quietestions like that about like a long term friendship relationship, business relationship partnership that went south in sour and we all know it, and you just say things like well, you know, it's always hard and you move on.

Speaker 2: It's a it's a dog whistle for me because that no, that's instantly like, that's all you have to say. You're not breaking down into tears. You're an asshole. And she was hard on him, according to com was like she was not always easy on him, and.

Speaker 1: The flashback scenes told me everything. I was like, oh girl, they caught a lot of that shit on camera apparently.

Speaker 2: What was going on behind closed doors because Colin and Erica exchanged a look like a lot of that up was he.

Speaker 1: Acter Avi was at gar sales premiere, told me every damn thing I needed to.

Speaker 2: Now, took a picture, very cute, it looked great together. Love that he supported.

Speaker 1: Here's the thing, and this is this is what people aren't understanding. A lot of people don't. But I'm a Garcel fan. I've been a Garcel fan since henty six.

Speaker 2: I've been a Garcel fan since nineteen ninety six because not only was that the year I was born, it was also I grew up watching everything and there's not a lady. There's like three people that you can guarantee you will see across the shows of the nineties and the two thousands, and one of them, ladies, is absolutely Garsel. You could not turn on a television show in the night. I'm talking full house, I'm talking family matters, I'm talking smart guy, I'm talking me. She's on everything. I've a Nammy Fox show coming to America.

Speaker 2: I was raised with Garsels. I love that lady. It's all a Garcia because she got a talent.

Speaker 1: Don't forget she was in a spinoff of Melworth's Place Models.

Speaker 2: In and was okay, bring your back to the remember Marines. So like, I'm but I know that Sutton lying about Auvy because or keeping being cagy and weird about Auvy because she seems to not know why what happened with Garzilla. When I'm like, how do you know? We're all there?

Speaker 1: Said she can't see it there. I'm gonna tell you, I know exactly why she's not saying anything.

Speaker 2: But I know she's not confused for real, So well, why why she's saying that.

Speaker 1: It's called a non disclosure agreement. If she opens her mouth and she speaks on the matter as it is, that breaks the contract, which allows Avy to speak freely, which would then allow Garcel to come out and say what she gots to say.

Speaker 2: Okay, so Suddon's gonna have to play at koy otherwise she's gonna have to. Uh. The birds will sing.

Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure that we'll we'll be making America great again.

Speaker 2: I'm just saying.

Speaker 1: I'm just saying.

Speaker 2: Every time read to open her mouth, I know where she wants America to go.

Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I.

Speaker 2: Just don't take much. You can't talents. I can hear the comments, and you can't tell them someone's tone a voice that they're racist. I can, Maybe you can't. Black ass can, Yes, I can. I know exactly who I would like to pursue conversations with and who I would like to not and they make it appearing in their tone. It's not my fault.

Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know this. A lot of people don't know this. But half of my siblings are adopted, and one of my sisters is black. Okay, okay, so let me tell you right now. I know what it looks like, I know what it sounds like, I know what it smells like, and I can taste it on my teeth. And I'm sorry the fact that Reba allowed that woman in her daughter's home in Charleston, South Carolina. Girls and Garcela had to know she was walking into enemy territory.

Speaker 2: Did not. I don't think she. I think she did it because she thought she was really friends with Sudden and that is why she walked her ass off that set the way she did, because there's no way in hell she went all the way there. And did you think maybe that you guys were just allies, that she was just an alliance? You were just an alliance star? Uh huh. I don't walk into get out houses a Jordan Field alliances for a TV show. I don't need to be on.

Speaker 1: Said the same thing that her slept. I just looked like to get out for real?

Speaker 2: What girl, what you think you think? I went to go spend my afternoon with my lily white friend and her probably likely most definitely old racist mama in the Deep South where about seventy three percent of the people around her also are that, if not worse, and don't know I'm coming because what we're allies? No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1: Don't buy that for us second baby.

Speaker 2: Not for my part time job. I'm not no, I'm gonna risk my.

Speaker 1: To do that. That little blue scarf wound up in the good will of box. You know it did.

Speaker 2: For the trash can and fair and should. We don't need to have no talk, no conversation, no beef, no for no pretend. She said, I'm done pretending. If it was fake for you, then it could be done for me. And I'm happy for ourselves. I'm happy for avey wo to him, go off, be happy now.

Speaker 1: I was going press him. I was going DM my mod be like what happened. I won't say anything.

Speaker 2: Just tell me seriously. I'm just like, I won't tell nobody except for what you want me to. You can tell me what you you can. Demi me, you could call me and tell me what you want me to say. A Demi calling Jen affleck Ave called me and be like, tell them she is, Oh, this is what she did. But I only want you to say that she really can be a piece of I'll be like girl, y'all mixologists not listen. I'm not gonna say, but I will say we are not teams Sutton Oh for here, and that's all I need. I really just need the tea for me, Like I don't even need it to share it.

Speaker 2: I just like to tea for me, I myself, sh I like the gossip. I love it.

Speaker 1: You will never know.

Speaker 2: Unless she breaks that. NDA like the reunion because if she slipped, I know Obvio is gonna be watching, having his lawyer watching with a fine tooth home. If you say, he gonna live immediately all I, Cardi B and I love it. I got you to Ivy Macoma. H hmm, talking a little too long? Oh was that a detail or did you give an adjective about Abvy? Oh, it's broken. It's somebody called the lady. Someone get virtual virtual reality or whatever and put Avy on it today. Yeah, and Garsel. I want to see them do.

Speaker 2: I want to see them couple up. I want to see them go out to coffee shops like Morgan and Kyle. I want to see them go out. That's gonna grind something. Scars.

Speaker 1: You know we're gonna tell you right now. I believe Crystal min Coff as well when she said Suton said something really dark. I know she did.

Speaker 2: I forgot about that, and I think that's why I needed to, because I really told I told Joe those were doing the years where Househofs were getting real weird and racist across the board saying things, doing things that I was like, Oh, no, as soon does it? Attaxt me on my couch? What I tell y'all, I'm like, no, I like it when y'all mess with each other because y'all get paid to do that. The moment it makes my couch and I feel attacked in my home where I pay the rent and have my aid on under my three hundred third account blanket throw no, ma'am, Oh no, sir, I will absolutely be turning that off.

Speaker 2: And I don't like being triggered at home. That's why Southern Charm and I haven't had a good relationship in years, because I also hear and see the way y'all are doing my girl over there, Vanita, and I don't like.

Speaker 1: Oh, I don't even talk to me about that, all okay.

Speaker 2: And that's why do you cover Southern Charm anymore? Why you watch it anymore? Because I knew this would happen.

Speaker 1: I don't want because.

Speaker 2: I was started watching Southern Charm when I started watching Beverly Hills and OC I'm suspending reality. I know these women voted against every single thing box that I checked and would say, oh, it's not you, it's just my belief. So you don't okay what it is, but that would be their thoughts. I suspend that when I watch them the moment they bring it to the forefront, Gretchen Rossi, Kelly Dodd, the moment you bring it so loudly to the front, Vicki gumbleson and y'all gave her her job back. All right, make it very plain for me that you don't want me to watch anymore.

Speaker 2: I gotcha, I gotcha, saying Heather Debros who woke for the show days. We are going backwards. We have not and will not overcome. When it comes to my home in sudden, it seems like we are tip toeing. We are tip toeing close to me getting on my couch, and I the only reason I think that bows or Boz is safe is because she's more accomplished than all these women in real life.

Speaker 1: He's a powerful bitch.

Speaker 2: Oh my god. She's also already on TV on a totally different show, and it's doing quite well with like me, one of the Jimmies late night Jimmies fallin you know, the one everybody.

Speaker 1: Likes, you know, fourteen million dollars for an idea.

Speaker 2: Yeah, because she's the queen of putting brands and ideas like to the forefront.

Speaker 1: And making her out Netflix. Without her, we wouldn't have to thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2: So Kyle needs to kiss that booty because that's where they you know, Kyl and Maurizio's show is also on Netflix. Yeah, and I think that's one of the reason. One thing I do like about Kyle's when she know that somebody is, you know, useful to her or could be a threat, she plays the game really well. But I said this years ago. It's funny because I used to I didn't always dislike Kyle. I actually loved her and Lisa together like I loved them together. It was just funny to me because when she said that being friends with Lisa was like playing chess with Bobby Fisher, it feels like I have seen that ever since.

Speaker 2: And I used to say that Lisa teach you that because that's how you friend everybody else. But I guess I can see the moves. But at the same time, again, I like the tea. I'll know what show I'm watching and its Housewives. I like it. I know these women only hang out like that outside of the show. I'm okay with that. So if your coworker things and navigate so that we can keep our job, do our thing, have fun, go off and what when about it? You can do it. Kyle Will played the House Lives game. She does it better than anybody I've seen.

Speaker 1: Well, you gotta remember she was raised in that environment. She knows how to navigate those streets.

Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean one produced some of the best. That was some of the best television raw television I've ever seen Kyle and in kim early days. My god, so it's I mean time. I we've watched Beverly Hills every couple of years from the beginning, and forget how damn good it was only because only since y'all for real Lucy Lucy Apple juicy is when we turned the corner and we were like, now, what is happening? Sixteen episodes about a dog? Right on?

Speaker 1: What?

Speaker 2: This is stupid? But before that, oh baby, that show was good.

Speaker 1: Season one, two, five, six, and seven are my favorites.

Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love let you know that because also I'm like one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.

Speaker 1: Oh you were a four fan. I can't get down on four?

Speaker 2: Is that Carlton? Yes, yes, I liked the way. I thought it was weird. I thought I liked that she like randomly called Kyle anti Semitic without knowing that she's Jewish. She's like, what.

Speaker 1: That tickled me?

Speaker 2: I was like, wait a minute, who did you even read? Wake Up? Did you read a book? Did you you're hard? I thought it was wild. I thought I thought Carlton was was a lot and crazy in a in a way that I thought was interesting. And I mean, sure Joyce was there, but you know, Joyce was there whatever. But also the other girls carried for me so much that those who didn't bother me, I'll say, like I was fine with all the rest. My favorite is when Dark gets there and she's like, they're like, aren't you from Connecticut?

Speaker 2: I don't kill me with that one released the being over there giggling about how to regot accident and looking at you and like wait a minute.

Speaker 1: And she's sorry, nothing that's gonna get better for me than Eileen Davidson. She was the only bitch on that show to hold the Savander pump accountable and make her accountable.

Speaker 2: And real and and for real, like in real in a real way, not in the lucy Lucy Apple juice way that was like fake accountability. No, she was scared of nobody. She's a soap opera actress. People are worse to her every day live on TV. He No, I'm unseeing some evil shit. This is not it. So I mean, listen, where did they go? What country is it? You know exactly what I'm talking about?

Speaker 1: Japi, Is that where it was where she goes shut up and eat your chicken on the boat.

Speaker 2: Yes, listen, those were good days for me. Also because my nana who has really bad basketball dementia, but it's something really kicking and surviving. Shout out to the gorgeously organic, amazing healthy foods in Panama where she lives, and her dementia is like regressed, but it's really great, like God better. It's really insane because she was diagnosed in like twenty sixteen. But like when she had her with about her, we would watch Beverly Hills and she would get comfu because she would think that she missed one of her soaps because she would see Lisa Rena and Eileen Davison sitting down like having lunch together or whatever, and she'd be like, oh, I didn't know, I didn't know my shows were on my stories.

Speaker 2: She goes, now, wait, y'all didn't know my stories were on. It's not twelve o'clock. She check her watch and be like, no, it's Young and the Restless. Oh shack what And I'm like, no, Nana, they're on my show. But then she would watch with me because she likes those ladies, so like, listen for the holiday season, y'all go rewatch. Beverly Hills is so good.

Speaker 1: By the way, I have to ask, because I we didn't get to it, what did you think of Erica talking about Tom and Tom Dinah?

Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're right, because I looked at my notes and I didn't even see it, and I was going to ask you the exact same thing. Should Erica visit Tom, who she hopes dies before prison? That's what I wrote. Y'all think I'm wild on this show. Wait if I ever published my notes, one day, I go they put me into jail. My I am reckless the way I write these things, because it's just my you know, untethered audihd thoughts of like in being a snarky tourist who's like, okay, you're crying about whether I am a Taurus.

Speaker 1: I'm a Taurus to May twelve, April twenty fourth.

Speaker 2: Hey, queen a queen like listen, I so like her, being like, am I should I go see him? Is it gonna answer all these magical questions? But then also like Kearny just hopes that he just dies and gets it over with.

Speaker 1: Hoor what When she said that, I was balland I was dagged.

Speaker 2: I was saying, I was.

Speaker 1: Like, I hope we get to talk about your little emergency.

Speaker 2: What is he wearing?

Speaker 1: Girl? It looked like Carmon San Diego.

Speaker 2: We're in the world because it's cotur doesn't mean it needs to be on my screen or that photograph. Look you did. It's so camp so I could see. I know some of y'all out there, some of you gays are like, oh god. It was just it was it was it was like, hella campy. I know. It got the girls round up. They were like, oh, she's back. I was happy to see her own glam. She can afford her own now, and it's not coming at the expense of anybody else. It's just simply her glam. And you know her fashions love that for her.

Speaker 2: Don't know if she's sharing a rent or runway car with the read but either way I'm happy to see it. You know, the least Porsche, the all of it, the self washing car.

Speaker 1: Sure, but you know what teld me something?

Speaker 2: You look good.

Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now, speaking of Eric and all that that clip before they got into that spa in the Confessionals, she goes, I brought her to the spa as an olive branch, the last olive branch, that's right. And I was like, oh, sudden, you don't realize just how out you are.

Speaker 2: And so you put Garcel under the bus for what for what.

Speaker 1: For girls that don't like you, don't never never liked you.

Speaker 2: And you thought you had a tiny little sliver of opportunity to get in good with them by like siding with them and throwing Garcel under the bus or abandoning her, and look at how that turned out. So now you got them saying that Garcel was your ally and you have none, and you want these girls to be your ally. You lost a friend. You want them to be your allies. And they're like, no, baby, it's expensive, it is you know, those don't like her, no better?

Speaker 1: But here the town and well, yes, and not only that, but you know she was at that table. She hates her because she money seemed the rate at that table, asked, I was crazy.

Speaker 2: Yeah, she's an elitist. She really is, like in a peasantly way.

Speaker 1: She said, she goes, you need to pick on somebody who's wallet. F I was like, I know you didn't say that.

Speaker 2: That was crazy. You know you know you're right because now I'm like, this is the dark stuff. What did her home look like growing up? Did they have hired help?

Speaker 1: Do you think a girl? You don't?

Speaker 2: Are those people treated because it's giving Blanche Devereaux and if you all watched The Golden Girls, you know that's the right thing. Yeah, but him having that affair with that with her mammy who was her nanny, who was a black woman, it's just giving. How did we treat the staff? Because the way she was talking to Avi, when she was like, you have got to stop talking to me like you are in charge. I am the boss girl. You okay? Because it's giving a few things that don't sit well with people, even who have money, Like in a room full of other people who have money, if they're not being classiest and ridiculous, even amongst the people that they're around and with and that work with them.

Speaker 2: I think you can too, because this doesn't this doesn't read very well, especially on Beverly Hills.

Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell everybody this much. If you want to find out who the real Suton is, go to season thirteen, episode four or five the name of episode, and I want you to stay at the beginning of it and then pause it. When Aviy is opening up the kitchen cabinets and you can see all the vodka bottles lined up on one side and all the ocean spray on the other. That told me all I needed to know about that woman.

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know, you bring it back to, you know, Crystal thinking that that was really dark.

Speaker 4: You know.

Speaker 2: I had Crystal on my show some years ago, shout out to Crystal. I've met her. She's lovely and pretty real, like pretty honest. So like I was, like, okay, I believe the lady when she says and suddenly says something dark. I also believe that Garcela's been in this game and in this world for so long. I've always said this also on my show. I don't blame or folk or shame Garcel for how she handles the white women in her life and on this show. When she joined the show, I was very concerned and worried about this exact thing happening.

Speaker 2: Absolutely hated it. Wanted her to bring back up. I thought she should have a second I thought there should be two. I like that we had Sharie will Smith's first wife for a little bit, but I thought we should do more because Charie's been on TV before too, in an ensemble cast like Hollywood X is one of my favorite shows ever. Like y'all could have done that because otherwise she was going to be left susceptible. I don't shame her for how she does it, but I'm telling you right now, I would have never let something get away.

Speaker 2: But most of this shit, Nope, most of the things. It was enough when the Asian woman, the other minority, is saying no, so what she said was kind of it was dark my own It wasn't even me, but my own minority. Uh, bigoted red flag of meters. Radar went off a little bit and said, ooh, I don't we might we might be nextped I just.

Speaker 1: Got the biggest I just got the biggest sense that when Sutton got the blowback from that. She must have begged Crystal left righton sideways to forgive her because all of a sudden they was taking pictures at baseball parks together.

Speaker 2: Yep, she had to. I mean, Sutton is a social life. She knows that when she messes up, she has to like try to save face and and do it very publicly so that she'd be like, we were good. I don't know or understand. And it's one of my favorite least favorite ways to play something and to be a housewife is to do that. And so with that, I'm gonna segue to another housewife that I gotta come for that some of y'all's favorite, and that is Mayor bear Over in Salt Lake City. Buying all these start at the beginning, but buying all these bitches necklaces and bracelets instead of like actually, like, yeah, it's very immature.

Speaker 2: I don't like. That's what kindergarteners and like young kids do. They choose to not like directly apologize, so they just like start complimenting or being nice and funny and or giving you a gift or something and being like, yeah, move on. But that's because they don't have emotional regulation, don't have the vocal capacity or the vocabulary to vocalize how they feel and connect those two things along with like explaining who they are why they feel that way, but also taking accountability. And Meredith seems to have like stopped in that exact same grade in age, like but bron would have accepted that gift, right up.

Speaker 2: Let's start from the first thing though, before we even get into that thoughts on you know what nine years did she come on the show to get divorced? I think so too. I do, I do, and I'm to be honest, they slipped by me.

Speaker 1: I could tell.

Speaker 2: You, did you could? I mean, I know he didn't have nothing in common. I felt like he might have. Chelsey grammared her a little bit.

Speaker 1: Girl when he ate her cherry on that Sunday. I said, you son of a bitch. Oh, I said, you son of a bitch?

Speaker 2: That is that's awful. That's awful. That's probably like one of the biggest primes you can do it to me. And I'm a sugar girl. I like me a little Sunday situation. That's that one hurts.

Speaker 1: I would have I would have stabbed his hand with the nearest boy.

Speaker 2: The way my face would have been like, oh, sorry, you want a divorce? Picking fights for real? Oh you want a battle? You want a war?

Speaker 1: It's crazy. You don't come down and get me three more.

Speaker 2: Matter of fact, I want a whole new top set. Takey, I want to get new with two cherries.

Speaker 1: Ahead.

Speaker 2: Yeah okay. Now, so you know, cause there were like, you know, little rumors that allegedly he wasn't paying the dues on some of the things that she was chairing on and stuff. She talked about how she loves, you know, she likes Todd. What do you think did it to make it to pull the trigger right now?

Speaker 1: He got caught on that airplane. Yep, that was what it was. And I'm not stupid then, I know that's exactly. She was publicly ashamed.

Speaker 2: And she was like probably like Ashley Darby begg and then they'd be like, listen, do not get caught up out here. And just like Ashley Darby, Michael Todd. These white men, these narcissists, these or heavily egotistical, i'll say, self important men are married to these beautiful younger women who then they go on this show. They think it's a silly little show like Dad Talk thinks that Mom Talk is so silly. Even though those ladies are dancing their whole engineering salaries in a week, they're thinking it's so silly.

Speaker 2: And Todd did not expect to be photographed. He did not think people would recognize him or give a fuck about him as an individual. But honey, bloo, we do because we watch people watch and also don't cheat. I don't know, but I hate when that happens. I've seen this, We've seen this happen on married to medicine. Fo That's not that's the one. That's when I'm like, oh, you don't think y'all still don't get it. Women have the largest purchasing power in the country. There is no world where back in the day, all marketing was designed to work towards women.

Speaker 2: If y'all seen Matt Men, you'd understand to go towards women because they watch TV, they buy the stuff, they set up the household, they tell y'all what the hell we doing every weekend and what's going on with the money and the things. Why will we go from marketing every product to them to thinking that their shows are not popular and silly and we don't watch them. What are you talking about? You are going to be Bronwin's husband now, booboo. Even if you don't feel with the women, even though if you sit down and just all they do is from le Bronwin, meaning you're in front of millions of people and we are everywhere, eyes everywhere, y'all saw I posted the TikTok of the man who we found them.

Speaker 2: Somebody was on that plane and they did record. Because why am I seeing pictures of the Salt Lake City ladies on a flight taking pictures with each other if we can't have cameras Because we can't and I want it.

Speaker 1: Well, you know, the rumor on the street is miss Merit, it's all she's done, and that's fair. And I have a feeling the reason that that.

Speaker 2: Is because they're gonna air it at some point then at the reunion, I feel like and she has to show off. Mm hmm.

Speaker 1: She walked off.

Speaker 2: I mean she's walking off. Now. We just got to Greece and she walking off.

Speaker 1: When I left that meal, that meal looked good.

Speaker 2: First of all, grief. We megan king Edmunds this and that's no shade to Angie, but we did. We megan King's Assis. You know, guys, I'm from Ireland and I want to meet my cousins. I'm gonna walk around and people are you know, guys, I'm getting my citizenship in Greece. My parents were born there. I wasn't my parents were born there. It's so great to be in the same place as my family. I can just feel the grease flowing through me. Like that's It's very like Megan wanted to, you know, freaking do some dances and have some brought words or something like she was ready to get in it.

Speaker 2: She wanted to wear green immediately. It's Angie too. She got the flashy and I'm happy for her. But it's just funny that she was like, you know, I'm getting ready to a citizenship and I just really want to take you guys to greaseas it's so special to me. And like every time I see Angie on any TV show now, she's trying to force everybody to go to Greece with her.

Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, every time Angie starts talking about Grease, she reminds me of so far from the color purple.

Speaker 1: She's like, you feel hope.

Speaker 2: So much, so I see it absolutely like she'd bene try to push her daughter and wife's watches said why don't you get your you need to learn the Greek. And she was like, can I have a life. You're not even from Greece, girl, you're from here. I need you to calm Her daughter was like, girl, toneing down around these cameras. Okay, my favorite salad is a Greek salad. I call you know, Grandpa by his correct name, and I like Feta over all the other cheeses calm down,

Speaker 2: like and Andie's like, not until we're all like bleeding Sancorini, like for real. But because I've always wanted to go to Greece and I find Greece absolutely gorgeous, I will accept this. The rough footage of like the cameras, even just panting like behind them and without the filter, I was like, oh, I'd never go inside. You would see me out there day and night looking at that water, be in that environment. It's absolutely stunning. And I love that we got there so quick. We had eight minutes of TV and then they got on the plane and got the hell to grease.

Speaker 1: Get the work lady. The only thing that gave me pause over there is when Whitney fell.

Speaker 2: Yeah, geez you okay girl, you pull it together.

Speaker 1: Well, I you know a little bit of tea. I heard Whitney carried herself very well with the reunion.

Speaker 2: Good for her because I mean it was all prying this episode. But we'll get to that in a second. Is can you copy a watch that is mass produced?

Speaker 2: I just here's my thing. And I'm gonna say this because I talked about you know, Vanessa mentioned this, and with the Angie and the Lisa of it all, Angie is always right at the cusp of having the sense and making the most sense above or to Lee say in her argument, and then she engages. Then she goes, what do you I've had my watch for like ten years, like and I've had mine for three or four Okay, well I've had it pretend. Oh I've had my business for this. I've had friendship. Please stopping. You were right there, You were right there, and then you literally saw Lisa down there and said let me get in that.

Speaker 2: But and you just dive head first into it. And I just want to know, why do you love it?

Speaker 1: Like? What is it?

Speaker 2: Lisa can't help herself, but Angie, you can. I'm watching you make the choice.

Speaker 1: And look, no, Angie. I remember Angie came on this show. She was the odds. She was she was one of jen Shaw's grip. So Angie got that up in her. She's a little sneaky.

Speaker 2: But I'm just like I thought Lisa was trying to handle herself so well on this tree.

Speaker 1: Well, did you see Lisa really crying?

Speaker 2: Yeah? She really did, because up until then I was like, Wow, she's really holding it together. She's like really trying to let it slide. And I'm gonna come from another one of y'all's faith because I actually think both of them can go ahead. She won't, but Heather is diabolical. I think we saw a side of her this episode to me that if you looked at what you saw, it wasn't everything had to be made. Now it just feels even more like she's trying to produce a bad moment or a fight or something, no matter what.

Speaker 2: And it is a little bit desperate because while I do want Meredith to take accountability at some point, I also heard and saw this lady being like I called you more than once, especially if you're so hurt that you're saying publicly this won't cut it as a peace offering, but the other things were offered before she got this bracelet. Why you ain't call or why you ain't answer? But until now, now you want to bring it up. Sitting with Lisa, she randomly goes, let me check the time. Huh looks so in my copy.

Speaker 2: So I did go get a Cardier watch, and she's like, I'm happy for you, and she's like, she's acting too. She doesn't give a ship, but she gives a ship, but she's like, keeps poking. She kept poking and being like, so like, I did get it. And I know you were upset with Angie because you thought she was copying you, so like, and then I got one for Leak for Whitney, so that like, so you don't do you think we're copying you? Copy copy. I'm gonna say that word again to your trigger and answer me back copy.

Speaker 2: Ah.

Speaker 1: Here's the thing.

Speaker 2: I'm sorry, y'all.

Speaker 1: I want she has a storyline. This she here and she knows it and the only way she's gonna do it is pot stirring.

Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't like it when Ashley Darby does it either. It just feels desperate. It feels like a lot. It feels like there's nothing else that I'm interested in about you, But then you do these things and it's like so now like both. In one episode, she started and poked the buttons with two people, two of the most volatile people, two people that she says that she cares about her friendship all. I've been loyal to Meredith since the beginning. You know, I write her downship, Lisa, do you because you were called bad weather the first season?

Speaker 2: To see the show only been off for six.

Speaker 1: It's only been six years, girl.

Speaker 2: How the good time that y'all hated each other before? And now Lisa is crying about the fact that you like do like the way you move, the way you address things. You expect accountability so publicly, and it's not that you can or not, but it just feels like you only want it so that you can engage for the show and put it all out there, even on that yacht she brought everybody like, I just think we should put it all out there, say it and burn it and burn it. You just want to have everybody fight, that's all.

Speaker 2: She's Baddy's style. Look, she's watching Baddie's ready. She can't now she ain't ready for Batty, She's ready for batties. But it's like, you know, Natalie Nunn always gets the girls together and be like before we go out to the club, everybody and dress they deep, well,

Speaker 2: that sound it fascinating, but that's literally Heather like before. So we can move on. Let's say it and forget it, let's burn it, let's talk about it. I don't just I'm gonna talk about it. And Mareyth's like, I mean I did offer you to talk about it. I was like, damn, but then Meredith fucked up where I did not Okay, Mary is confused. Mary's wearing her sunglasses and Mary is giving. She's like, I don't understand. Who was Cartier? Yeah yeah, watch at the airport, Like Meredith, you did say that.

Speaker 2: What's going on?

Speaker 1: Mary is there for the food, the wine, the three trip and that's it.

Speaker 2: She's like putting keeping her sunglasses on in the evening because she really don't want y'all to see her facial expressions. But baby, we can. We can't married. I mean, Mary is like reacting at these She's over there, who what huh? Oh here gona marry getting up married, get stuff. She can see her eyes roll to the heavens and back to the top of that grease dome. She's like, oh my god, there she goes. She's getting up.

Speaker 3: Mary.

Speaker 2: Mary is hilarious. She's like, girl, I came for this sam Gria, this resort. I didn't hear because this food is the lish they told me they had the Dawn Perry on from two thousand and whatever, Like I'm not here for Oh look, y'all got married or started again. Y'all know she's gonna lie. Mary want to say, y'all know she gonna lie. How y'all asking her to apologize for some shit she'll never admit to doing? Why She's like what I said, she didn't admit.

Speaker 1: Mary is just being entertained by these people with this month. Mary, it is free cinema to her saying, Mary, I literally just sit back and I was like, you can't write this.

Speaker 2: You cannot, you cannot. And Mary is literally all of us, all of me these episodes, like her face shows, her expression is the way she she's like the only person there who's like with it for a different reason because she actually could care less about this show right now and doing what all you girls are doing. We actually don't know why Mary's here, and that's fine.

Speaker 1: Look as I know, I'm glad she is. Look when Mary walked into that tea party that bron Winn had and she goes, I'm not putting that wig on God.

Speaker 2: She Maryy just like lives by her own rules. And I appreciate that they let her because she is the for someone who doesn't have a storyline like Heather and imposters everybody into like you know, alive, Mary sharing a lot and we know that, we know that in a real time there's a lot more that she'll be likely having to share soon. And she has done that, clocked in with these ladies, not so much in the fight these sins, but she gets a little two cents her shading a funny confessional. I stay with it.

Speaker 2: I like her participation. She gets points for showing up and being funny and the comedic relief and the eye rolls that we need.

Speaker 1: I'm waiting for McDonald's to give her her okay.

Speaker 2: Cardier basic bit shit, but McDonald's top tier.

Speaker 1: Let's black fish aside fish.

Speaker 2: Bilay of fish. I love that for her. My mama called it a fish filet. I didn't know it was called a filat of fish until I was maybe like eight or nine and read the menu myself for the first time in the drive throu I was like, it's got oh, we just see let me in a fish file at listen anything else about Salt Lake City that really like I do. While I don't agree with what Heather did or how she did it, I do feel and understand for Whitney, because Whitney is like, you don't understand all these other fights are because like like Lisa and Heather even like falling out even further because Lisa wants to be a good friend to Meredith the way that she feel even though Meredith wasn't for her, but she wants to stand up for her even though she was there, even though she tried to hold her accountable.

Speaker 2: But she's like, I realize my friend is not open to that. So I'm kind of just riding with where she's at. Because I tried to chime in and say you did say that, and she said probably no idea at and she said, Okay, we're living with that. So Lisa's just trying to go along to get along, so she be for with Heather. Whitney's crying. Lisa crime Ever crying all because Meredith yelled at Brittany on a plane and she was like, Brittany, didn't we mend it, Lee, Matt and we squashed it right?

Speaker 1: Oh?

Speaker 2: Was that a question or a threat?

Speaker 1: That was a threat?

Speaker 2: I thought so.

Speaker 1: Britney's face, Yes, she got I did.

Speaker 2: Yeah. She was like, oh, I am I saw. There's no way in hell I'm talking during this time. I'm not saying a damn thing. I'm gonna let y'all have it. I'm not. I saw that face and she said, oh, y'all can encounter this beast. I've had enough.

Speaker 1: Now. Let me just say this. When Lisa was defending Meredith to Heather, did you see that? They panned right in on Meredith's face and Meredith was like so jubiling over there, smiling so maniacally.

Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1: I'm saying, oh, oh, oh, I see what you're doing.

Speaker 2: I don't trust Meredith or Heather. And so this this rift in the group coming from Heather harping on it, like I too. I think two things are true. Meredith took not enough, not nearly enough, if any accountability at all. She did not like apologize the way she should, I mean to the group or have each of them. And even if you did call Heather, I will say why did it take till this weekend? Because you didn't want her to bring it up on camera, like because you know she will then, But it also means that you didn't really feel like you wanted to apologize.

Speaker 2: And then for Heather, it's the same thing. It's like you are harping on something that Brittany's not even bringing it back up again. You are about your feelings and that's fine. You assassinated my character. She called you what Lisa called you a good time girl years ago, and you still wanted to be her best friend. You could give a shit if she called you a liar. You've been called a liar before on this show. I do believe that. So I'm like confused as to why you so upset you have to bring it Well, I'm not forgiving her yet.

Speaker 2: This isn't gonna be enough, Like the piece of this is not enough. Broun was like, I mean, it wasn't my fight. So I took the gift you forgiven. I love a gift. I love a trinket, a little excess survey.

Speaker 1: I let you know, look right there. Hello, how much girl?

Speaker 2: That's what brounnds she was with her. She said, I'm gonna get you said, oh my god, peace offering, and there is peace, there is She was a peace offering and haven't dance. Oh damn. Brown was like, damn, it worked for me.

Speaker 1: You can buy me for a couple of days, bitch. You got a couple of days from free with this.

Speaker 2: Listen, we're gonna have a nice grease trip. Bronwin said, you can. Don't even worry about me.

Speaker 1: Look look like daddy okay.

Speaker 2: Daddy's okay, she said, Listen, she told Tad. I mean, she told Whitney that Tad was gonna She's gonna have to train in. At some point, I was wondering how Tom might have felt about that in real time, the conversation she had with Whitney. I was wondering about how he might have thought about that.

Speaker 1: Because that aired, I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 2: That was a question for me. When I saw that they split, I was like, huh, I want to know who filed, because even if it was Brawn, I think that that fight. I think there was a fight and a catalyst was that episode of because what was she's sitting down there talking about the plane, Yeah, the Twitter situation on the plane, and then her response with Whitney, He was like, we're with older men. Eventually we're gonna want to explore, like I want to evolve with all these things. And I was like, I don't care how he felt about that, not because I doubt well.

Speaker 2: I doubt well because when you're talking about you're telling the business of him being on that plane and getting caught on Twitter and tender or whatever the hell, and two you're talking about how you want to either open or swing a bit or do something adventurous because you are with an old man and it's not hot and spicy like the way it used to be. And you're fine with him looking at people or we bring someone home together and he but he's a serious person and doesn't like he have his business on out street like that.

Speaker 2: But you're talking about how you be open it to Okay. I was just like, I wonder how you felt about that whole conversation and situation.

Speaker 1: You know, he was mad as a motherfucker you Okay, So and.

Speaker 2: Then it's so it's just not it's not weird to me. That less than six weeks later, we're finding out that somebody has filed it's gone there.

Speaker 1: He didn't even clock that until just now.

Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's airing and he's full of ego and she's protected him a long time, but I think even that was too much for him. And she's like, you won't even film with me, an the other lady. So I'm trying to secure my bag because you don't want to pay for stuff like I can hear it. And I think she has a point because he's controlling with money and she's trying to make her own. But you don't want to tag alonger do it? You shaming her for trying to get the bag, but you're not sharing the bag. So then what is the girl supposed to do?

Speaker 2: Dariy? What am I supposed to do other than get on here and talk hot shit about the husband so I can get the coin because Mark and MANI are gonna talk about it, and then people talking about it means they're gonna watch. And you don't think my silly show is worth anything, but honey, it is.

Speaker 1: Well, I hate to break it to these housewives more more powerful than they think we are, so much, and I never, I never ever say I have the power to end you. But if I if I want to turn my if I want to turn my opinion on Sutton on hot, I've been just Luke warn all right, I'm never.

Speaker 2: Saying y'all don't know how many at least for me, And you can chime in if you if it's happened for you, mar But y'all don't know how many things I've turned down as tea to share because I'm like, what are theihoods of me getting sued? Let's the ship and that is the only reason why, because I am petrified of being sued because I don't have it for you. I am not Tasha k. I don't put things out there without like, you know, solid solid receipts because I don't want Cardy be coming at me or whatever.

Speaker 2: But that don't mean that it doesn't come, and it doesn't mean it's not possible. Because for everyone I ignore, someone hits access, it takes it.

Speaker 1: It's so would you like I'm gonna tell you, I'm give you. For instance, I knew what fucking happened in Aspen before anybody knew what was going on in Aspen because a certain a certain housewife came right in my DM and I was.

Speaker 2: Like, they do that sometimes, tell me.

Speaker 1: I was like, she goes, don't say anything. I was like, oh, so you want me to say something. No, I'm not going to get caught with this.

Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm not. Before Bravo will be like, we're suing you because you spoiled the plot and we decided that we might want to air that plot. And because we may or may not decided and you went ahead and spoiled it, Boom were suing you for possible loss.

Speaker 4: No.

Speaker 1: And I was still a baby account then, so you know what I said, nothing same.

Speaker 2: I got a lot of stuff when I was a baby account too, and I would get some things and I'm like, I would watch friends share stuff and then brow following exactly, growing following quickly for the tea, but also grow in anxiety. To me.

Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, look, it only took the Bravo babe one round with Tama Judge to learn how she went down the wrong road.

Speaker 2: It only took a shout out to her. I still love her, but brands by Bravo. Same thing with Erica Jane and then that was some years ago. But she I mean, I do too, And because Erica. Again, there are few people that I'm like, I don't think i'd ever want to engage with that person and then make it play, and Erica is one of them. The way she treats them housewives, I don't want that.

Speaker 1: She don't fuck with you.

Speaker 2: She is wild. So when she took on a real person, a friend of content creator, a regular individual who just comments for free on stuff that we watched, I said, oh no, she'll have with anybody.

Speaker 1: That's why. That's why when Macgretch and Rashi ship was going down, did you notice I said nothing? I said nothing, And you want to know why I said nothing? Because I knew about this three f and years ago, when that ship was running around the first damn time, and I said nothing.

Speaker 2: Then, uh huh. I didn't either. When people would send stuff and I'm like, oh no, I see it. I would read the likes. I see it. I see what she's following. I see what she's liking. But it won't be me.

Speaker 1: It will not be me, and it will or not.

Speaker 2: I don't want to know Magat taking me to court. I don't want to do that now.

Speaker 1: And that's why I that's why I begin in every sentence allegedly and yeah.

Speaker 2: And so everything y'all heard on this here show is alleged about all them girls. Whether we know the tea or not, you don't know that, So we're gonna say allegedly because we want to be protected so we can continue to bring y'all the good shit. Speaking of that good shit, Mark, thank you so much for being here and again giving me the good shit at the best. Where can people get more of your good shit? I have a feeling it's in a box that's pink.

Speaker 1: It's the Pink Pop Box at the Instagram. I am on Twitter, but I don't play there, and we have our own little podcast.

Speaker 2: Yes, y'all go follow Mark at the Pink Pop Box and you know where to follow me on all the things. Thank you so much for your reviews, for listening and all of that. You know where to fund me on all the things if you want to see the visuals, ad free content and like ad free episodes like this one, because otherwise I'm just teacher trying to get paid, so please respect my uhle okay, because our Department of Education has been taken away, so who knows if I don't even have a job soon, so y'all please listen.

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Speaker 2: And just wish a girl up man, wish her baddy luck. She's doing her best. I'm gonna have to like, I'm really like, oh gotta strap in. She's gotta get through it. But wish me luck or wish me a snow day, whichever, you know. Take care of yourselves, guys, love you so much, Thanks for listening. Bye,

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