210. Housewives and Catch Up in The Mix W/ Kendrick Tucker (@ikennotpodcast)

0:00 Speaker 1: Sounds struts.

0:10 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful misologists out there. It's your girl, Moni. You're in the mix with Mani and of course Big Ken not the little one. Kendrick. Welcome back. Are you doing. I'm good child, I'm here. It's the holiday season for better or worse, depending on who you are, what you celebrate, where you going. Well, I mean it's cold for most of us. That has me irritable. I'm in a very ba humbug kind of mood when I go outside. But like, my heart is right, my heart has joy and cheers, but this weather is not.

0:49 Speaker 2: It is very bad. I don't like it cold. You're in Memphis, today is an okay day?

0:57 Speaker 1: Like right nowadays it's actually fifty four. That's the Bormussen.

1:00 Speaker 3: While yes, I went outside to take up the train, so I was like, oh, this is nice.

1:04 Speaker 1: Okay, you know, jacket, I don't need.

1:09 Speaker 2: You a little sweater weather. Oh yeah, I can do that. No, no, not here. The DMV has been snowed in on days that don't matter. A nice Saturday night till Sunday morning, snow pointless, pointless. But you know, the northeastern area New Jersey, New York y'all got a lot of snow randomly. It's been cold as hell. It's been cold without snow the Sunday out and it's still be like surprise, bitch, wind, chill ate, And I'm like, how it's waiting to me? I can't. I have literally have a crisis of conscious every day of being cute or being warm.

1:46 Speaker 2: So when I go to school, up decided that on Mondays is the day that I try to dress for the whole week. We are going to try to dress as an adult person with a job. On Monday, every day after that as a free for all, depending on how the weather goes and that Monday, but we will pull I should a button on a Monday. Oh.

2:03 Speaker 1: Let me tell you.

2:04 Speaker 3: They made the mistake of giving me one of my gifts from work this year was they gave me a nice who is a pedagon? Yeah, a nice patagon. You're like this, so baby, let me tell you something. I put that bestone. Yes, I don't even iron no more. I just put a nice shirt on underneath hasn't been ironed. The sleeves look good enough. I put that PAGONI on the zip it up or I'm good. That's three days out of my four.

2:30 Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good.

2:33 Speaker 2: There you go. That'll do it, that'll do it. I am I md M indeed on the like vest and sweater, sweatshirt weather girl, because I'll try to do an outfit. But I'm a teacher who also does I have recess duty? Until teachers? No, most people don't know. But like someone has to watch your kids at recess and lunch, and most times that person is also either a volunteer or that teacher. So yep, So I dress for recess and I go out. When I go outside, I'm like, wow, it's cold. The children may not feel the same.

3:09 Speaker 1: Oh, they don't care.

3:10 Speaker 2: I feel. I'm like, where is your coat? And they're like when are you talking about right?

3:17 Speaker 1: Like you know it's thirty like you should be.

3:19 Speaker 2: No, it's cold, And they fight me with me, like you need to take a coat. No I doubt Yes you do, yes, you do? You know what you're up in here calling at me?

3:27 Speaker 3: Or you have too much zinc like we didn't even make a doctor's appointment, or we need to figure something out. This ain't normal.

3:33 Speaker 2: No, no, it's not so for better or worse, it's the holiday times. I hope you guys have you know y'all let have your plans and if a lack thereof, if you're like us, I'm chilling this season. I feel like Thanksgiving cost me so much emotional energy, like to prepare for yeah, financial energy that like Christmas came like a second later and now I'm just like, nah, we're in the house.

3:56 Speaker 1: Yead I love.

4:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to roast for me, my wife, our dog. We being a real roastuse. They had the recipe and they got all you need section the section of shop all you need for the love that I did that.

4:15 Speaker 3: I love that you listen. I left it up to uh So. Thanksgiving was at my sister's house. She has a new house and they loved to entertain, so we went out there. It was amazing. All I did was listen. I didn't want to cook for Thanksgiving. I was the look, I know what I'm gonna do. My homegirl at my job, she has a catering business on the side. She can cook her ass off. She made me a big tray of oxtail pasta and when I tell you, with vegetables in it too, Oh baby baby.

4:45 Speaker 1: When I tell you, everybody they Mama had to come and.

4:46 Speaker 3: Get a scoop a play when I tell that thing was gone and it was one of the you know how you get like the big pan for like when you make a turkey for Thanksgiving. Oh, it was filled to the brim of oxtail pasta and very reason price.

5:00 Speaker 1: I brought that off.

5:02 Speaker 3: Yes, cook our pants. Well we ate on net that day. The next day, the day after, it was immaculates. So this time I said, oh, Mama, you got it for Christmas. You can do it.

5:11 Speaker 1: So I've had now.

5:12 Speaker 3: I did have to buy the actual groceries you'll be cooking, But I told her, I said, well that's my contribution.

5:17 Speaker 1: I won't be helping now.

5:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll show up. And here's the thing. Thanksgiving, I did cook a great majority of the things. We have a larger family now than my mom has. Gotten remarried and she married us. She married a beautiful, a nice, beautiful, spirited white man. That white man loves family, loves black. Yes, I love this white man so much because he cried the first time we showed him this Christmas. He is so syendonym. I said, Lowe, l that is christ brown dancing.

5:46 Speaker 1: I know that's right. I know that's right.

5:49 Speaker 2: Look, it's a staple in our home. I watch it every time I go. Maya has to force me to wait to watch this Christmas until like after Thanksgiving because when the weather gets when it's when it gets dark at around four forty nine, and if I have a little little crisp air, I'm gonna put on this Christmas.

6:10 Speaker 1: And let me tell you something.

6:11 Speaker 2: Regina Hall and not Regina Hall, me and Regina King, oh yes, and in them and Idris. Yeah, we have a good time. Oh yes, multiple times a year. I'm there to be here tell.

6:25 Speaker 3: You something when I when it gets around this season. You know, listen, you know you're in the education field. You have to be around a number of people every day. You know, we somewhat wear the mask on a regular basis, so you know, we have to, you know, crve some of those inner thoughts. We got to kind of keep it to ourselves and we let them out when we.

6:43 Speaker 1: Get to the house.

6:44 Speaker 3: You know, my way of expression is around the holiday season. You know, after I've you know, been in office, been to the the pot looks child and you know, been to those kind of things in office. You know, I come on home, I say, you know what, let me it's time to be bliggerdy black seeligoty and I have a good time. You don't have to watch Friday after Next. That's my preferred Christmas movie of choice. And then you know, now, because of a shout out to k of Bravo, we're black. Now I have to watch The Bitch, the Grinch that Stole bitches.

7:15 Speaker 3: So you know that's a toob exclusive yes, And then if y'all have not seen it, please do yourself a favor.

7:20 Speaker 1: Turn it on pause this, turn it on and come back.

7:24 Speaker 3: Because it's it's necessary viewing and certain things you just got to watch. Now it's you know what I say, you know what, I look at my watch and say, time to steal bitches. I guess let's let me go to Touby. You know, every time you say you gotta go to Touby, that's a that's a day right there, because you know you you can never watch one thing on Toby. That's the thing, because you know, we talk about it so bad, but then they're recommended.

7:43 Speaker 1: Come up. You're like, you know what, maybe.

7:45 Speaker 3: I do want to watch that. I don't know, So none of them look like they can act. I think I want to see this.

7:50 Speaker 2: I'm a checking out and one of them look like they can act on a Lifetime movie network either, Hell, okay, like you and everybody who can act is the person in the lead and on the lead of the playbill and she can do a number, you know, but once they pay them, everybody else in the background is just doing their best.

8:11 Speaker 3: Extras essentially, Yeah, you know what standard after you.

8:19 Speaker 2: Know, calibers like oh yeah, you're here too.

8:21 Speaker 3: I will say what one day? I think it was the night I couldn't fall asleep. No, it was actually maybe it's a Friday. It was some random day. I was like, I cannot fall asleep. I just need to like watch something. I'm like, am I in a Christmas movie?

8:32 Speaker 2: Move?

8:33 Speaker 3: And I never watched like the cheesy Christmas movies, but I was like, I.

8:36 Speaker 1: Think I am.

8:36 Speaker 3: And I got on Netflix whatever that new one is with Tia Maury and other dude and white Lady. I was like, oh, this is kind of a treat, and.

8:44 Speaker 1: I watched them. I had a good time. Yeah, oh no, no, not that the one where the ski lodge. Yeah, was like, yes.

8:52 Speaker 2: I'm a person who watched Yeah. The other one know it's this one I watched.

8:57 Speaker 1: I watched them.

8:58 Speaker 2: My mom is a huge fan of corny Christmas, like, she watches them. She has really bad ADHD, so she she does her. She wakes up early, does her laundry and dishes and cooking and stuff and all her projects, and she leaves on a lifetime Christmas movie or something. She's seen all the bad ones like and then not just like time, but like the adjacent ones, like the Netflix. She'll watch them all. She's seen everything and them did. She's like a princess. I don't get it.

9:28 Speaker 1: You know who's our girl?

9:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's seen all the black girls. She's seen Melissa john Bart. Yeah, she's just seen Tia and all. She doesn't seen every one of Kelly Rowland's terrible Christmas movies, but she's so we don't care.

9:47 Speaker 1: Late.

9:49 Speaker 2: My mama is a beautiful chocolate girl too, so she that's her girl, her favorite of the Destiny's Children, because she's like, she's so beautiful, you know, Chrismith. She watches all of them, a little another little Chris Smith you love. So I get it, you know which one of them, but like, no, to me, I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to have to give that one bad you just called The Grinch Who Stole Bitches exactly.

10:18 Speaker 3: Yes, and when you see the because I feel like people when I said that out loud, people are like, oh that Kendrick, he is so no. No, go to IMDb, go wherever you choose you need to go, and you will see. There is a movie currently on two B called The Grinch That Stole Bitches and it's normally one of the most field around this season.

10:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fantastic.

10:38 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

10:39 Speaker 2: I think I'm not gonna lie. Why not?

10:41 Speaker 1: You know, why not?

10:42 Speaker 2: Tom? I have so many more Christmas gifts to wrap and guests to shout out to all of y'all because one thing I don't often I don't know if it's picked up one like many is a real inclusive ass girl. She mean me. I love everybody having thing. I think one of the best things about being so critical and judgy about humanity as a whole is that I have no bigotry in my heart because I think everybody sucks, you know, like being in general. So there's no reason for me to like projects any kind of negative feelings on anybody because it's no one group.

11:16 Speaker 2: It's the fact that you're a human being, that you're selfish, egotistical, are probably an asshole. So what that means said, is the season to celebrate everybody. I don't care just because I celebrate Christmas or whatever. I don't think that that means with jadievance. I don't think that that means that we should not celebrate the other stuff. Let people have their own joy, enjoy your joy. I have so many friends that are Muslim, Like all of my best friends are Muslim, and I have now more I realized I have more friends now in the Jewish community than I think I do any other community.

11:48 Speaker 2: And I'm giving out Hanakah and winter and like just winter holiday presence, oh season. Not like I don't give a shit. You may not celebrate it, bitch, but I do. And I want you to marry whatever the hell from me. So here, you know, because I just I'm already shopping and thinking about people. So I want to spread joy to everybody. But I do use Hanukah as a way and my my believability and being tolerant. I use it as I used to give people like a way too many gifts because I love the shop so it's a little thing.

12:18 Speaker 1: You know, it's multiple days, so just a little.

12:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, Judy, who's Jewish, she loves Harry Potter, she's newly married. I don't like having to decide between gifts for people anyway. And I'm sitting people telling me money, this is too much? Why you just all year long? It's one day and in this case, that's one part of the season. I got her a Harry Potter Monopoly go because her and her husband and her new husband are like Harry Potter. They have like a Potter household type thing, so they love playing games together. They're like a whole standway now.

12:50 Speaker 2: So I'm like, here you go games and Potter.

12:52 Speaker 1: I love that, you know. Let me tell you something, little things.

12:56 Speaker 2: I'm sending out gifts to everyone, Kendrick. I also need your address because I like to send I love love this time. I'm grateful for people, and I think that right now is a good time to spread love and encouragement to your own community, your own keep your boat floor. Yeah, your chosen family, because like it's taken a lot for a lot of people and not go crazy. We see things every day about people. Yeah, and less and less in mind I'm not even desensitized to it. Sometimes I'm looking at the headlines like that makes sense, no.

13:26 Speaker 3: Literally, and I feel like it's happening way more often. You'll see the headline you like it. Sometimes you'd be like, damn, I should have thought of.

13:32 Speaker 1: That, Like you.

13:35 Speaker 2: In the Shade Room headlines.

13:36 Speaker 3: I'm like you, right, especially when when it's a woman foulest swinging a bat at a man or something, I'm like, you know what, that was probably long overdue.

13:46 Speaker 1: I get it.

13:47 Speaker 2: That woman in DC, I think she, like God, went to jail, Like she went like into jail jail because she like shot or stabbed her husband for trigger alert like like hurting and abusing and molesting like the kids of her daycare. So she's around other people's kids, and I'm like, I'm sorry, what's the girl?

14:05 Speaker 1: Right? Like y'all are y'all okay? Because I'm okay with so much.

14:12 Speaker 2: She chose people strangers babies over her own husband, rightful, But like, what's the crime why she looked up? No?

14:20 Speaker 3: You know, my story was the one that took headline this year. We even talked about it at work. The whites at work found out about it. Okay, this story where the woman's husband was cheating on her.

14:31 Speaker 1: So she sued the mistress.

14:33 Speaker 3: I said, oh yes, oh yes, ma'am Carolina, and one, oh.

14:36 Speaker 2: Yes, oh yeah, the top yes, the story.

14:43 Speaker 3: And then and then the man came out and said he didn't love her. I said, so, y'all just cheating out her, cheating for fun.

14:50 Speaker 2: Wow, the choices we make.

14:52 Speaker 1: Wow, that was crazy.

14:53 Speaker 2: She sued in one she got the money. But it's an interesting lawk North Carolina, because what is it that for alienation of affection? I can sue the mistress but not the man I married.

15:05 Speaker 1: Listen is a real thing, Okay, because he.

15:08 Speaker 2: Is a real thing, Because you're right, but she didn't get alienated from her affections.

15:13 Speaker 1: She from her.

15:14 Speaker 2: That's what's affection. The patty that you can sue the mistress to be like, how dare you?

15:20 Speaker 3: Because in my mind, now now now the fun parts start. You've gotten the money from her. Now you get to figure out how creatively you want to ruin his life. And so I guess the course is like, well, you know what, let me lead it up to you. Sis, you figure it out, and you know what challenge acceptance?

15:33 Speaker 2: Okay, accept it. Challenge accept it. Listen, there is We obviously came here to talk about housewives, but y'all don't understand there is so much more going on in the world of hot topics. It's like the holidays come around and the show's pause because the real drama is, y'all, the real drama is generous. Yeah, we don't have time to why. I mean, brother put out a post the other day of like when the shows are coming back and when we can expect to see new episodes during this season because they know we are big z watching watching, looking at it like what the hell?

16:08 Speaker 2: I really want everybody, after their holidays are done, write to me, d m me, or send me a voice not on your instagrams of a fight or drama that broke out at one of your holidays in Dicks, I want to do a normal gossip style, give it to me and then we'll put anonymize them if you want it to be shared. And I just want to like collect stories and have someone come on and let's tell stories about the things that happened over the holidays, because it's so secret that some of our favorite episodes, even of like Housewives Beverly Hills especially, it's always a holiday episodes because that's when people come in with so much joy.

16:45 Speaker 2: The adrenaline is so high that like, and it's so festive, but then they look the most ridiculous or crazy pop out because like there's a snowman over there and there's a minority.

16:59 Speaker 1: Huh, I said, juice it you a damn elf. Exactly.

17:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I think about Kenya Moore's like the Christmas party from years ago, where you know, I just think about those things. That's like the background is so ridiculous. So something w a fight or anything, a weird conversation, family secret, something comes out while y'all are at your holidays, she diggities. Please do let let me know. I want to know what happened amongst the tinsil and the silent night playing over the fireplace and someone accused Uncle Johnny of sleeping with hoes behind ein't Marge's back.

17:37 Speaker 2: Let me up.

17:38 Speaker 1: I would love out and go live too, because I'd love to see it as a matter Okay, that's what.

17:44 Speaker 2: They always say. If the flights break out, go live just exactly.

17:49 Speaker 3: You know, I have to send you on threads. I just I was scrolling for I don't know how long last night? And this one post the girl posted and she said, just out of curiosity, have you ever have to fight one of your parents?

18:01 Speaker 1: And the amount of people that I may have had to straight up?

18:05 Speaker 3: And all the stories start the same, like, yes she was abusing me for you, or yes he did that, yes he was. Like the parents have always either been like complicit in some bullshit, starting the bullshit or something to where like the Fedom kids. So like, you know what, maybe maybe the commandments were wrong about this one thing, maybe just one thing.

18:24 Speaker 1: God was like, Yeah.

18:27 Speaker 2: You know, because honor your father and mother, but not if my father is acting like an asshole.

18:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to honor him.

18:35 Speaker 2: I don't one of that. No assholes.

18:37 Speaker 1: No.

18:38 Speaker 3: I think parents used to be different back then. These new parents got too much social media.

18:41 Speaker 2: And it's like different friends and it's weird. I need it's making really terrible children growing up.

18:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, we watched a number were.

18:54 Speaker 2: Watching them on TV every week. Go that's parenting right there. Yepe of threads. You know, y'all know Kendrick is active on the internet, but Threads like it's like a place where he can truly get those thoughts and feelings hurt and out about the show, saying everything and we're thinking while we're watching. One of those things being because I am one, I am a black who does still watch Beverly Hills, though I've been disappointed year after year. We always start strong, oh his first those second episode always so beautiful, so good.

19:25 Speaker 2: Somewhere around three to five, we dip for the next eighteen weeks, So I'm my own brace for that. But you know, I think Gibson shout out to Gibson John's he asked a good question and you answered it well. But I really wanted to ask you to share your thoughts here for those girlies who are like, why they just don't watch Beverly Hills anymore and why you know you've chosen to take that route, Because what I will say is I think I will identify with some parts of your reasoning. Because I didn't watch the last couple seasons that Garca was on, and now I'm watching almost because she left.

20:03 Speaker 2: I don't feel like I'm going to be confronted with the same things that make me feel uncomfortable. So let y'all know how I feel about when it comes to tax me on the couch I give it up, and so I wanted, I like to be able to suspend the belief. So, like, I'm curious because when asked that question, like, you know, a lot of people did fall off of Beverly Hills and are either back now because like you know, it's been a while, or vice versa still not watching. And I think there's some commonality in why So can you tell us why you gave up when you gave up on it and why you're like I'm good, I'm good off them girls with the diamonds.

20:40 Speaker 3: Yes, So, like you said our friend Chartha Gibson, he posed a question online just kind of wondering, like, you know, if you watch it or if you don't, why'd you stop?

20:48 Speaker 1: Like you kind of like that.

20:50 Speaker 3: My my answer has been pretty consistent for a long time. You know, I stopped watching officially now that Garcella was gone, and not even just because she was gone, like that was a big factor, but it kind of felt like natural. At that point, I said, I like my Housewives, and then I said reality TV in general to be fun and funny, and then I mentioned Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Potomac, Atlanta, Miami. When I think of Housewives. Those are like current, Those are the funny ones. To me, I crack up with them quite off.

21:16 Speaker 3: They can watch we Run's and crack up all day long. I said, I've never described Beverly Hills as a fun show.

21:23 Speaker 1: They're committed to being miserable.

21:25 Speaker 3: I held on for as long as I could to cover it on the podcast, but once Garsell left it felt like a natural stopping point for me too, because it kind of felt like I watched on screen a black person say you know what, I'm over this shit, and I was like, well.

21:38 Speaker 1: I'm black and I'm over too. Yeah, So I.

21:41 Speaker 2: Left ohever need is a black woman and say she's done with something different. I could have never started it, Yeah never, but oh no, I don't drink such and such a brand of water. I've never either, but now I never will. Exactly for that, they said, you know, really quick over yesterday and the tradarious Joseph for people who don't know, that's what African American people call all yes, mainly because they actually started it. If you don't know, Trader Joe's puts their name in like a different language depending on the products that they're selling, Like they're Italian food.

22:19 Speaker 2: It says like trader Goo toes. I'm not Italian. Don't judge my speech on whatever the Greek name is. And they have it on that they put Trader Joe's whatever it is in Greece, so black people named it Tradarius Joseph and he you know, in the store yesterday, I asked a lovely, beautiful, holler than me black woman to hand me a container of the curry of the curry chicken salad. And I said, can you just hear me that? Because I'm just so small and it's so high up there, but I gotta get mine. She goes, no, is it good?

22:47 Speaker 2: I said, it is, ma'am, it is. She goes, how good is it? What you do with it? And we sat there it's talking about it, giving each other recommendations what I eat, what I put it on. And she goes, like in a salad, I said, a salad or on a Hawaiian I do like it on the Hawaiian roll, like a Hawaiian role. Because right, okay, there's like there's nothing I trust more than a black woman making any kind of decision. I'm sorry, that is just the facts. If I'm in a room and I'm in a crisis. I'm finding a black woman to give me advice and answer the question and how to how to get out of here?

23:21 Speaker 2: Well black woman, and she's a sound woman. And I've never felt steered wrong there. And if you think about it, people, neither do you think about in your life, You're like, I would trust her to get me through a crisis, including what you get at the trade of Jones.

23:36 Speaker 3: So let me you white, And if you ever gotten a hug by a black woman during a crisis, you'd be like, you know what, it might be, Okay, I might be all.

23:44 Speaker 1: Right after this.

23:46 Speaker 2: The bosom of a black woman it is. It really is like ask Blanche. She was like, listen, you know, I love me some golden girls. But that's that's that's the thing. When Garzella said she was done, I understood it. I do not question why she love In fact, it's almost like, damn, why am I watching it without her? But if anything, it's like I feel better for me. I'm watching because I feel better knowing that she's not on and I'm not watching my black women's in my opinion, not suffer. But like I've always said, how she handles the white women in Hollywood is how she handles it, because she has been in Hollywood longer than most of these women ever even thought about it.

24:28 Speaker 2: She's been there, yep, acting around the women for so these kinds of people for so long that she's not a stranger to it. But I will say when she joined the show, I was not a fan of it. I really, I mean I listened to my episodes. I was really hesitant. I did not think it was a good place for her. There was no other supportive black women on the show. I did not think that you appreciate someone who is more accomplished than them. Kyle's whole bright is like not being the fanciest actress on the show for years and years.

24:59 Speaker 2: She He's only been upset when real actors and actresses come on there. Ilean Davison lest Surrenda, as you told the men. The problem with Garcella. She's a black woman, and Kyle has unaddressed issues with race. They all do, but definitely kind definitely Kyle Erica sudden those have been addressed. I know what she's saying. She just don't want you all to know where but we know, okay, But that was one of the reasons why. I was like, oh, who did I just have on here? Vanessa? No, Mark, It was Mark, And we were talking about on my last episode when Crystal King Crystal Monkalf said years ago at that cabin right the Sudden said something so dark that she couldn't it made her uncomfortable.

25:45 Speaker 2: We never got to the bottom of it. Mark thought, then, and that's why I brought a white man on a drag another white woman. So then it's too hard. But I'm like, I dragged Sudden every time we look at her, to be honest, because lives are not working at garcel Bone. Whether the visit that Mama, I didn't like it. It was all a lot. And it is actually harder for me to watch than it is now because I'm like, not only are we not entertained and it's boring, I'm watching micro and macro aggressions either happen or I'm anxious for them to happen.

26:16 Speaker 2: The whole time. I'm like, is it now? Is it?

26:19 Speaker 4: This?

26:19 Speaker 2: Is it? That?

26:20 Speaker 4: Is it?

26:20 Speaker 2: That? What made her uncomfortable? How does she touch her shoulder? And I don't want to have to do all that while I'm watching TV. I don't want to do that right. So now I'm watching it and I get it. You know what balls is on there? I wish a white person would tell bos what's going on? What do they think about her? That lady on this show? The next one? She don't need your platform, anybody, You don't need to be here. She's here for fun. But literally, Bosa is gonna have a good time. And I can't respect that because she's got it.

26:48 Speaker 1: She actually has a job. Truly. Let me tell you why.

26:52 Speaker 3: My whole thing because at first my whole like thought process was, well, yes, Garcela's gone, but Bowls is still there, so maybe I should try to stick it out or at.

27:02 Speaker 1: Least see what the season is gonna do.

27:04 Speaker 3: It was to watch what Happens Live that her and Erica did were Erica and it wasn't even her for Erica dubbed her a good one because she told and you finally got a good one on here, and I was like, ooh, I don't like that language, and that made me feel like they were all I know. I'm like, oh, y'all often to go alone to get along. I don't like none of this shit. So it was in that moment I was like, oh, I'm okay. I think I'm okay on y'all because you aren't fun, you're miserable. Now we got somebody that's the good one and the bad one.

27:31 Speaker 1: No, we may. I don't want to watch that.

27:33 Speaker 2: That is not even a micro Russian, that's macro. That's pretty damn bad. Yeah to what I say is like, I guess I feel like Bows is not going to be a threat for me to watch because they respect her, whether you know all of them deserve respect or whatever, like Garcilaser too, but they didn't. That's just the fact. For whatever reason they didn't respect her, didn't like her. She was to accomplish in the field that they want to be a comp that. I think that that's where it came from. You know what I've noticed, especially about these girls, they do not like other people having something they feel or felt entitled to, and now especially if it is Garcel a black woman.

28:12 Speaker 2: Erica and Kyle want to be you know, they want to be known and remembered as theatrical entertainers like for Better or work. I want you to know she's in a child star forever and gave it all up basically to be to hole babies and love her babies and all that, and Erica is like, I'm a performer forty plus, but I got it packed this puss bitches, you know, like I've been on every nineties and two thousand sitcom ever because I am that bitch. Okay, And so did you see Moses like a financial figure, so like they respect her, but there's no threat to them.

28:45 Speaker 2: So she's a good one and that she does not want to have to worry about Andy, which I still say you should probably think differently because she's gonna be also out entertaining you and then you will be gone, Erica, how.

28:56 Speaker 1: Many times she does.

29:01 Speaker 2: But they're they're now who want to do what they gotta do to keep her exactly.

29:05 Speaker 3: She's gonna tell you something and this will be real sad for Erica and for Kyle. But I think in all the years they've been trying to like truly crack it, it feels like.

29:16 Speaker 1: Let me see, how long have we known the Mormon Wives? Two years? Maybe got three seasons? Two years?

29:21 Speaker 3: It almost feels like Whitney has gotten more jobs. You know what, Let's move Okay, let me let me.

29:29 Speaker 2: Move the whole family to New York. You know, Yeah, the whole family because she's gonna be on Broadway doing a Christmas.

29:35 Speaker 1: Movie already for next year.

29:37 Speaker 2: I love that she's not even Delulu. She's like, yeah, probably Delulu, but like really she's bat on herself. She moved the whole family. She's she loves her kids, but she's like, I'm gonna be on this Broadway, so so absolute.

29:51 Speaker 1: She was the only one.

29:52 Speaker 3: All the tiktoks and stuff like little dance videos will come across my feet every time hers wood.

29:57 Speaker 1: I was like, do you actually have rhythm? Because like I was, yes, the.

30:03 Speaker 2: Stars people were like, no, she Bustn't she up there really doing it? He was contending to go. I mean she went further than I think even she thought far. I think she was continued. I think she made it as far as further than I expected for it. But she did it. She did a good job. I think she did a good job. She liked to dance. I saw Chicago. I've seen Chicago twice. I've seen it on Broadway, I've seen it off Broadway. I've seen the movie. I've seen it all I saw in Broadway. He did great, and I don't think it's actually something outside of Whitney's wheelhouse.

30:40 Speaker 2: I don't think it's that it's not that big of a singing role. It's more a good dancing vixen actress role of being a villain but vixen but doesn't really know it and as ye didn't expect it to be like a secret of all the people, because how long did it take me, surrender to get that role? And Erica right, it took them years. We've been on TV for two.

31:11 Speaker 3: And let me tell you, one of the other things about her is that not only like does she have that star power, and I'm axiously like what else she does because I can actually see a lot of opportunities coming her way. She's also one of the few that's actually married to somebody that I feel like I can root for too, because I actually feel like Connor is one of the few ones on that show. Not only he's like a sympathetic character because when he tells his story, you really feel for him, but he's also one of the ones I'm like, oh, you're not stupid, you actually make some sense.

31:41 Speaker 2: He's a sound man. In fact, I think he's one of her biggest redeeming qualities. Truly, I care less actually about whatever his sexuality is or is it really? You know, why you know is that this lady who could be worse right had multiple baby he's with a man who couldn't be better, exactly happy to know that she's got a good baby daddy, and that she has a good husband. He supports her and loves her. She's dancing her ass off and he's like, I guess right, a special up her butt up.

32:16 Speaker 3: But you know at times, because you know, they did that whole thing at the first reunion where he came out and talked about like his old school tr like what happened to him as a child, like the trauma and all that kind of stuff.

32:29 Speaker 1: But then I don't see the tiktoks, and I'm like, I feel like this is opening up old wounds.

32:34 Speaker 3: Like maybe we should move away from this, like you got to leave that man alone sometime, Like I don't feel like this is helping.

32:38 Speaker 1: But I'm not a therapist.

32:39 Speaker 2: So Nick Viole for even trying to insinuate that way. We can't do both things like like and be a mom. How is she doing what she's doing now?

32:54 Speaker 3: And how are the other thousands of women on Broadway doing it? Like don't get weird on.

32:58 Speaker 2: You don't know any woman that does both. What about the actresses in Hollywood, They're not on Broadway they have a more flexible schedule. They're less flexible schedule than anybody else. I mean, honestly, y'all know, I on ironically and ironically watch the Kardashians for cinematic television and to keep my ear on the pulse. I can know what's going on in the world, and believe me or not, watching the Kardashians show lets me know a lot about what's going on in the world, Like where are my fingers on the pulse?

33:22 Speaker 2: Because one this season I have found out one major thing. We all may just have distaste for them, but people in power really give a fuck about the Kardashians. Respectable, good people, talented people really care about those people. And it is sometimes a shock even too I when I'm like putting on my laundry show just to keep a finger on the pulse and be like, who's there, who's not watching Glenn Close, Bet Glenn Close.

33:51 Speaker 1: Emmy Award winner Nisi.

33:52 Speaker 2: Nash and her amazing way. Jessica bats who yes anyways, so she and Sarah Poulson come to SER's house to screen her movie for Kim who's never seen it, and them not take a fence to her never seeing it, which is like crazy to me, but because she's like, they're like, oh, we come over and I tell you all about it? What do you mean? What do you mean? What do you mean? What do you mean? I'm like, how do you even know each other?

34:27 Speaker 1: Do you?

34:28 Speaker 3: Also feel like leaning close is finally like doing all the parts she actually wants to do, Like I feel like she put off a lot of stuff and she now was like, you know what, who is.

34:36 Speaker 1: At the what's that Lee Daniels? Okay, y'all do that?

34:40 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, she earned the right to just like go have a jammy jam party with the girls. What a girl can't act? But she has a sweetheart, she has a good martini, the go a nice party. To me, I'm just like looking at I'm sorry who is on here? Who agreed to film this?

35:04 Speaker 3: And my thing is because I have a hard line about a lot of stuff. If I'm mad about something and like kicking up as think like oh this is so unfair, this will never happen like this X Y and Z.

35:15 Speaker 1: But the person that actually affects a.

35:17 Speaker 3: Mad I'm immediately like, oh well, I don't care, because if you're not mad about it, what am I mad for?

35:24 Speaker 1: Exactly?

35:25 Speaker 3: If Glenn loves everything going on, bit baby me too. If you like it, I love it as a matter of fact. So if you love it, I super love it.

35:32 Speaker 2: Exactly. If you love it, I super love it. And one thing I learned, especially and watching them Kardashians, is that like that camp, first of all, she she gonna make them. She's gonna make that money. She really is. And I think that people are respecting the hustle level in that one because one thing about her she not gonna stop. She gonna keep going, and she just brings her kids along. But she don't stop mothering either. She on the FaceTime doing the mom thing, but she is like, I'm gonna work.

36:01 Speaker 2: I'm gonna work. So to that, I say. And but also, like Nick Viaile, it's just weird to me the kind of criticism that you give women in certain in certain places, and then it makes me be like, then why are you covering women's shows? Right? Anybody can watch, but not really because we're watching the stiquilize normal wives. First of all, this last season's reunion, it had way too many men. That's a problem. Your demographic is not. It was the work ship ever produced. And the problem with Nick Vow being the host and the first season is that he wasn't the right man to host those women.

36:32 Speaker 2: So you change the host and still make it about the men when you needed to just have an empathetic ear like a mom a woman like yeah, sure that made sense, but then why are we talking to the men, Because she is a mom who also has a giant career and did a lot of things outside of that, because women can do both. But also, you never give this question to a man. Does Nick vo asked the men that come on his show how they do both?

36:56 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly?

37:00 Speaker 2: You have kids?

37:00 Speaker 1: Why did your wife? One of your co.

37:03 Speaker 4: Hosts are like, what are you talking about?

37:08 Speaker 2: I'm so it ain't no sense to me. Huh, well, waitdy, we were showing a beast. I think that she's gonna prove all of them wrong, you know, Scarlaze Mormal. While it is pretty much like where I'm landing these days anyway, I'm not waiting for them thinking about them all the time. Are you know? They're doing it? Good for me? Right now. But the reason we spend so much time not talking about them is because these last couple of episodes of Salt Lake City and Potomac were kind of fillers. Which is fine.

37:34 Speaker 2: It's the holiday season, it's the end of the year. People are in the house more, they're you know, they're doing other things, they're taking their vacations their home, so it's not as much to watch. And it felt like we were, you know, kind of in some some filler land for you know, both Salt Lake City and Potomac. So why does have some questions I wanted to ask you so in front of discussion, go where it may. But for these are just the things and watching what I love about Photoma is it even in a filler episode, there are things that make you go huh all the time?

38:07 Speaker 2: Yes, the question mark ibrow raised, Oh, that's a choice. We don't need to have a big fight and a binder to have a good episode or good time and the pe okay.

38:16 Speaker 4: Yes.

38:17 Speaker 2: I've spent some time talking about how Ka's condo is gorgeous, the fact that she owns it where it is, I mean, it's a great location. It is not too far for MIA's old townhouse. Was that she can only girl forward be so independently, like good on her own, which she has a great business in a great location. She is thriving. Yes, she can't give up on this man. And I thought we were gonna be okay because she had her own condo. But then watching this episode, I wrote down the question for you. Kendrick, so Kay and Greg Clarina and Greg moved back in together.

38:52 Speaker 1: Yes, very weird, very weird to me.

38:57 Speaker 3: It felt like that whole I'm moving out because he doesn't respect me or it's time to move on thing, just to within a year move back into the same place together. If this was like this whole power move thing where you wanted to like get this man to buy this condo. So then like, y'all, I don't, I don't, I'm confused. I'm very good. Peltrol Frank confused me. They confused me. His feet always confused me. There's a lot of confusion.

39:27 Speaker 2: This particular jewelers, Like I want y'all to understand Bradcliffe Jewelers. There are plenty of jewelers and jewelry stores in all of the D and V. Obviously every place got a bunch of diamond stores. Like it's a city, right. This place is in the suburbs of like Baltimore suburbs, like an elicent city that not too far from like Robin and Mr. By, a resort that is so known for weddings and stuff. It's so reclusive that you seek it out. And I'm here to tell you he passed about three malls things Remembered store inside or even a Swarovsky store inside where you can get you a nice studded silver frame.

40:07 Speaker 1: He could have want the family. I don't.

40:12 Speaker 2: Nobody goes to a jewelry store to get a frame. Nobody, nobody.

40:15 Speaker 1: And my thing was, why did you waste Angel?

40:19 Speaker 3: I mean, well, Angel didn't have nothing to do, so, but why did you waste like the girl Mama time like she was that lady was mind to her business and she really don't like you like that.

40:27 Speaker 1: That's the thing.

40:27 Speaker 3: So you brought me out here to pick our picture frames. When you got me, think you for these cameras. You talking about, oh this that was a do ring. Oh well yeah, that's an option doing all this kind of dumb shit. But then you got this girl mama here, you got an angel here. That's the craziest in the world.

40:43 Speaker 2: To me was the weirdest, stupidest thing, Like I'm sorry, this personality less Greg want to be on TV's that what I'm saying here. He wants to be with her because of the cameras, but he doesn't want to actually be on it. I'm just very confused because of that is what enthusiastic about her or to be here. But yet you just pull some stunt queen ship.

41:02 Speaker 3: Right, we have to move in boxes this time. I'm like, okay, I guess that's a.

41:08 Speaker 2: Now and you give me a ring on a string version of a gift. It was really giving Tom Schwart. This was worse.

41:15 Speaker 1: Yea, you went to a Drewelry Spore to.

41:16 Speaker 2: Pick on a frame. Sax got frames, Neieman's got frames, the things remembered store, Like I said, you can get the frame.

41:24 Speaker 3: In gray family dollar. I mean, it's gonna come with a picture and some white children in it. But you just take it out like they got frames?

41:32 Speaker 2: What say, and you want to go straight to.

41:36 Speaker 1: The door exactly Amazon.

41:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lady got some nice frames for you. Came forever relationship on and that's why her name is Clorina. To me, she is on a payment plan of a relationship only a little bit of a time. She gets a little bit of what it's expected to be a grown person in love as a time. If you have to tell the camera, my mama don't get it. Nobody else gets it. But we're just two adults who get each other, and we going on our own place in the ring. And the extra stuff is just the icing on the cake, is it? And who are you trying to convince me or you?

42:13 Speaker 2: I've never heard of no ring being extra stuff. We came, we had we made a commitment together. What commitment? No commitment? You made no different commitment.

42:24 Speaker 3: Than you had.

42:24 Speaker 2: But I went on vacation. First of all, everybody does well on vacation. That's the whole point of vacation. That's when you're like, man, we didn't we had a sex problem last year. The dick must have gotten so much better because we went on vacation. And girl, that's usually how we goo male. The problem is fished in six days.

42:43 Speaker 3: Certain things always happened, okays vacation.

42:49 Speaker 1: Like, none of that is new.

42:52 Speaker 2: They asked you, if you want a PENI your Kilda and you both have a pinion Klana put the clothes away in the room, and all of a sudden that pinion kilatea cack in and you forget what you have a fall fight.

43:01 Speaker 1: Right, there's an.

43:02 Speaker 2: Ocean room in the mix. Okay, But now you're sitting down man, And the first thing he says to you is if we get married, and she had to remind him of when, right, right, yil you want to strength my second question for you? Or ring on the frame mooing Stacy's end game right, but leaving thirty minutes into the party that was for his daughter, thoughts listen, but yet only being with her to be on the show, any okay, thoughts, I.

43:39 Speaker 3: You know I don't want the Stacy mafia to beat me up because you know I love me some Stace took to meet. It is because we love her. We want better for her, We want a whole lot better for her. But nothing about this relationship in general made sense to me, because I was like, wait, had you told me like y'all really never stopped, you know, fooling around even when TJ was in the picture, allegedly whatever, Like okay, that would have made a little sense. But this short turnaround for y'all to come back be together him to be like I know you're saying, like he's here most of the time, but he still has his house and all like that.

44:13 Speaker 3: All of this is very odd to me because y'all keep saying, oh, we don't want our Bella to get the wrong picture and all like that, what picture does.

44:21 Speaker 2: She have, because it's that her parents are in the same home, because they're spending time together and doing the same thing together. Because they are and you'll only foul or got the divorce in December of twenty twenty four. We're in the summer of twenty twenty five right now. Y'all killed this season in the spring of twenty twenty five.

44:40 Speaker 3: You might have a theory that haven't put online, got divorce after you separated.

44:46 Speaker 2: You're right before the show came back, and y'all got back together after your divorce was final when the show came back.

44:53 Speaker 3: I got a theory that I did not put online because I was gonna get beat up and I'll get like, I'm like, you know what, I don't feel like tussling with y'all today. You remember first season we found out because I think there was that when when they were talking about how like Wendy always wears like a lot of colors and stuff like that. That lunch that they had and it was Giselle couldn't pronounce charcoutery. Y'all know what lunch I'm talking about. They had that lunch last season and Stacey came.

45:16 Speaker 3: She talked about how well he's gonna pay child support. She just left the lawyer's office. He's gonna pay child support. We agreed, I don't want any alimony. I actually believe in my heart, I believe the actual alimony is will Look, I'm gonna be on this show.

45:32 Speaker 1: You know.

45:32 Speaker 3: They always interested in, you know, husbands and relationship dynamics. So I won't be on the reg you know I won't. I ain't gonna do no alimony, but I be around. I'll let these people speculate about me. All they won't. They'll talk about this and that. I'll film with you and all like that, and Bravo will keep your pockets lyned. Instead, we'll keep you on the show. We'll do like that because just TM as a whole T mood T mode TLC. Don't go chasing what I don't know what your name is, whoever you are.

46:01 Speaker 3: I don't see it. I don't see it. I don't see it, and I feel like they she's really kind of like doing the I think Stacey that QBC thing, she's already so like I want to say, buttery, like, she's so like, you know, she moves just so yes, charismatic, moves so flowy and stuff like that.

46:21 Speaker 1: So what we're seeing is flirting and.

46:24 Speaker 3: Stuff like that. I think Stacey really can just turn the own and off. And I think once she actually finds a man that she wants to be with, I think we can probably expect Timu to exit stage left he's fulfilled his contract, and then weignation Rufe for her and whoever this next man are.

46:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that makes actually a lot of sense, considering he probably also just doesn't want random men around his daughter. But she's like, I'm going want to be on this show. You won't have to pay alimony, but I want to be on this show. Yes, being on the show means I have to have some kind of at home storyline. And if it's not going to be our daughter, it has to be a man. And if you don't want be paying people or TJ or whomever you gotta film with me, and I think that is a thing that you chose to do, which I don't disagree with honestly if that's the case, because then you get to control what men are around your daughter.

47:13 Speaker 2: Like she's maybe not dating on the show, so there's nothing for her to be criticized about, essentially, but also it gives her another season or two to get herself established, so then when she has no man, she can still be Erica Jane or something on the show and be single completely and stay a full time cast member or be a just you know what I mean, like where we don't know. It's so funny because there's definite have boyfriends that we can give a fuck about on this show, but the one that she cares about you will never see.

47:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so like, yeah, you will never know exactly.

47:52 Speaker 1: They're still uncle uncle Bobby.

47:54 Speaker 2: Right, that's for mama. You don't have none of that. Okay, right, he made me feel good? Okay, right? That part My last question thought for you about potnac Whndy's mom telling her to shut the fuck up? How do we feel?

48:14 Speaker 1: Listen, I feel.

48:17 Speaker 2: I'm gonna know right now until the trial is over.

48:21 Speaker 3: I don't listen. I don't blame you, Okay. I don't want you caught up in No, I don't want you caught up in no way. Okay, you got you got people to need you. Okay, So I get it. Just pauls Okay, I got alternatives. I'll tell you about it right anyway, Well discuss Okay.

48:36 Speaker 1: This scene was very loaded.

48:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I know it's gonna sound crazy to a lot of people, obviously, Like When's mama was doing a lot in this moment, and I do think she wanted some attention from the cameras and all that kind of stuff. She was doing a lot, and Wendy kept trying to call out, like, oh, you're doing a lot, You're doing this for the cameras and stuff.

48:56 Speaker 1: I think two things can be true.

48:58 Speaker 3: I think the way she talked to Wendy and the anger she has for her dad is all funneling through because Wendy's trying to have a relationship with him. That's misguided. That's like that misdirected anger. Yeah, ridiculous. You need to like not fight your daughter. There doesn't need to be in fighting because y'all are the unit. You Ivy and Wendy y'all are the unit. The dad is over here, so like, you don't need to fight amongst ourselves for something that he's done. So one hunderdond get that part.

49:24 Speaker 3: The other part of it is I understand almost understand too, the anger her mom has about the situation, because if you're the person that raises the kids all these years and stuff like that, and then it feels like the one thing that like the kid still wants to do or still misses, is to have a relationship with that other person. If you're a sensible, compassionate parent, you'd be like, you know what, if you need that relationship, go foster it, go do it, like do whatever you need to do. But she's not there yet, So in her mind, she's like, no, I spen all that money, I sent you to school, I did this, I did that for both of y'all.

50:04 Speaker 3: You don't need ship from him, He don't need ship from us. Leave him where the hell he at, right, and that is going to eat her from the inside. I understand it. I understand that anger, but right now it feels like it's directed at a thousand different things, and that whole, the whole. Let me tell some of that point. I knew right when Wendy did it, I was like, Oh, this is gonna go downhill.

50:25 Speaker 2: Said friends, Oh God. But when he did it come out of her the professor schools in session came out because she was like, you're reading my choices. You're criticizing my choices about my relationship with my father, which it's tricky. I understand. You know, when my parents wanted to do a divorce, I was so team my mama that it was so hard. I did not do anything else. But I also hated though my mama talked about my dad yeah to me, because I'm like, I'm allowed to have my own negative feelings aboudy, but I really don't want them cloud it because it's hard to do that, Yeah, to work through that when you put on those as an adult, like who he was as an adult versus just your father.

51:05 Speaker 2: So it's difficult because I understand where her mama is coming from, but I really it's sad whenever mom's put this kind of pressure on their children, especially their daughters. Saw this with Candace too, and Cannis was on Potomac years ago her first season wedding, and Dorothy was like that man that helped make you He'm not doing enough. I'm doing this. You need to ask him, ask him, he should do it. Why do you want to invite the brother? He's a symbol up because it's not about you. And when they's mom realized thinks that it is a crime against her as the mother for her offspring to have a relationship with the man who hurt her exactly, but that's their dad.

51:45 Speaker 2: He's not the man who hurts their mom. He is their dad, and which, yeah, there's a totally different relationship, like and even still they had to feel different because it wasn't done to them, it was their dad. Like they could be disappointed in him and still not want to not have a relation and ship or want to have one based on their interactions with him, because he didn't do that thing to them, He did it to you. It's like when moms say, well he left us, he did not he left you. And then you use the children, when you use them as like a bargaining ship against all it does is make them, in their adult years, want to find out for themselves what it is that's going on that they miss and it will hurt you again because you've isolated them in thinking that you could just like repeal that curiosity or that relationship and quote that friendship that they might have because he upset.

52:33 Speaker 2: You tell me they're mad at him. Be like, I could give a shit about your daddy, but if you want to talk to him, just don't. I don't got nothing to do with me. That's what my mom.

52:41 Speaker 1: That was fun.

52:42 Speaker 3: He can't come to my front door, but you can go out five to him.

52:46 Speaker 2: If you don't want to talk to you. I'm sorry, I mean, he a terrible man sometimes, that selfish bastard. Sorry to curse your own daughter out in her house, in her house because you disrespected that she tried to have a relationship with her own father, but she won't let you call him the sperm donor in front of their his grandkids. That's kind of crazy. Moms.

53:06 Speaker 1: You have insurance money.

53:08 Speaker 3: I went into decorating this new house and remodeling for you, and you cussing me out in it?

53:13 Speaker 1: Like how rude? Are you kidding me?

53:14 Speaker 2: Okay, excuse me, but you an allowance every month and you want to curse me out?

53:19 Speaker 3: Okay, but don't the crimes make a little more sense now that we had that scene.

53:23 Speaker 1: I'm just saying a lot more s.

53:25 Speaker 2: I mean, this whole season, I've been telling people who only know about Potomac because of the news, it's still happening, especially local whenever they're you know, at court or something. It makes news here when that thing happens, and you know, but like with all that happening, one, I'm like, damn, the kids are probably with her mom, which is kind of wild right now, that must be crazy. And two, I'm like, if it wasn't years ago we saw her asking for thousands of dollars an allowance that made no sense to us.

53:54 Speaker 2: But this season and some people they're like, so, how bad is it is she gonna do jail time? I was like, if she wasn't before this season, ain't doing no help to make sure that it stays inevitable, Like what's gonna happen now? Because I mean she they every corner is being touched by a paint brush, every corner of the home, a little of marble here, a little of you know this there. But it's still as magnificent to me because people want I wondered, as someone who lives here in the area, how they went from the same sized home in Rockville that probably cost to at home about an hour and a half west.

54:32 Speaker 2: I have to look at the map in my head. West of Rockville passed like out in the boondies of Maryland. Then it's probably a third of the money a third, like easily, Like if I'm giving like random numbers, it's like that same size house in Rockville easily if you can find it. It's so hard to find maybe two million maybe two point three wow, in where they are, the county that she's in where now it's even worse because it is painfully white, very straight laced, painfully white, and white people there would probably describe it as the same.

55:05 Speaker 2: They're like girlss real vanilla out here, not a Jimmy Cone shout out to Marylanders, but like that went out there maybe six hundred k for the same role. So I was just like curious because they lived in Rockville, where their home had equity. I mean, I know they made that was a you are hard pressed to find. Even there's more demand than the supply in Montgomery County because of how close it is to DC. Really nice school systems slaps like it's insane, like it really good. But then to go all the way out there to such a downsize and finance, but then put hundreds of thousands of dollars in the renovation.

55:48 Speaker 2: It's like, really a choice. It's like, yeah, you can do it because you can afford to do it now, but you couldn't afford the home then, so you moved to a different home for whatever reason. I know it's not the schools, but for whatever reason, any movie less extensive home, and yet you're gonna put hundreds of thousands of dollars in the renovation for what. Look, I just don't understand it, Like if not for opulance and esthetically for what, Like you're we sit down with her in every episode w Wendy's whole storyline amongst her being crimes of finances right now amongst the same time, at the same time, her entire storyline is ren evading her house from top to bottom, top to bottom, And people are like, yeah, but the drugs, I mean, the the marijuana deals and stuff like that.

56:36 Speaker 2: Let me tell you this. And I just brought this up to somebody else as a person who one has worked in the cannabis industry, and I haven't actually have a license in being a butt tender. Shout out to

56:50 Speaker 2: multifaceted individual meeting. I know a lot about cannabis, but start start to finish in the processing because Maryland does it very differently than other states, because it is under our pharmacy department, like the government's pharmacy department. That saying back, all the weed that is sold and available in Maryland has to be sold and made in Maryland. Eddie is he is the lover boy in a world of hard seltzers, high noons, twisted teas. Mike tards all of those.

57:22 Speaker 1: He is.

57:23 Speaker 2: It's good, it's lover boy right, like we're excited about it. But just because it's available in that liquor store does not mean that that's where we're going constantly to pick up. In fact, it's probably not most people's first choice to go and pick up a lover boy when they want to go get some hard teas and ciders, unless you're that bravo girl. Meaning he's a little guy in such a big space in Maryland that even though it's well, he not making them weed numbers the way other people are who are more global.

57:54 Speaker 1: Not to mention, he's also.

57:58 Speaker 2: Trying to expand at the same time his current year, he's expanding into New Jersey. He's been trying to expand it like road and Island. Look, he's going different places, which also means there's money going back into the business. His line isn't even that robust. They've got three different strains and a couple of flowers and collaborations. So what money is Correra marble top to bottom in your kitchen? Because it's not this weed money? Because I do like now, I love I love Eddie and I love you.

58:30 Speaker 2: Yes, I do only buy that brand to support.

58:37 Speaker 1: Yes, I do.

58:38 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay does ingest Mary Jane frequently as a connoisseewer, As they say, I am the weed connoisseewer. Like a wine girly. Okay, wine girly is out there. You will understand that if you love a good shot and ay, you will drink the barefoot that's available at the party.

59:02 Speaker 1: You sniff it first and.

59:05 Speaker 2: Open does now, Oh, I think I'll pass if it's been out too long, but you might drink it if it's available. But if someone offers you a nice something else, you might also take that. You know what I'm saying.

59:23 Speaker 2: And that's pretty much It's like if you're at a party, you might like a lover boy. But if they say you want that or a high noon, what are you taking? Girlies who drink those things? So I'm just saying I have found it. If just wasn't happening in real time on the court cases as well, I would have a hard time believing the marble from head to toe, stairs, redone carpets done, three different rooms, bedroom, kitchen, garage, all that off of three strains and a couple collaborations at the palidar.

59:59 Speaker 3: So can we and we expect Happy Eddie to come to a hard stop because if things don't go their way next year, they will have that f title on them, which I really hate that, and he won't be able to be involved, right.

1:00:13 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure. If anything, I'm thinking they must be trying to restructure the business. Now okay, just the name like he has state. Okay, if that to somebody or you know, I.

1:00:29 Speaker 1: Just gave it to your poison ivy, there we.

1:00:31 Speaker 2: Go, love it fantastic. Yeah, I don't think that he this is I don't know how this is going to go. It feels like they are definitely gonna do crime, which is kind of crazy because like you didn't have to you could sell drugs legally in this state, but you can't do stealing legally.

1:00:46 Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't think nowhere, So yeah, you please,

1:00:55 Speaker 3: if you're doing crimes, please don't email them to each other.

1:00:57 Speaker 1: Just yeah, filly.

1:01:00 Speaker 2: I don't even know how to get a burner phone, but I at least do that first. That's what all of law and order has told me, go get us.

1:01:05 Speaker 3: If y'all don't know what a burner phone looks like, it's the ones that come in a hard plastic at the corner store.

1:01:10 Speaker 1: Just get one of them. You got to have to open it up.

1:01:15 Speaker 2: If you see anyone holding one of those burner phones, you know they're doing crime and leave them alone.

1:01:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, either they shoot during crime or they're shooting the saine of power, one of the two.

1:01:27 Speaker 2: But before we get out of here, I wanted to talk a little bit about Salt Lake City, another filler episode that's were on a trip. We're in Greece. How do you feel about I mean, it's still more of the same Heather and Whitney producing. They want to get a rise out of narrative so that we can see what they saw on the plane. Who said that I did? But like They're still going out and about out of their way to get Meredith to apologize or whatever or flip out or what what? What do you think their end goal is here?

1:01:58 Speaker 2: Is it the friendship or Whitney and Heather that sad that she called them liars and yelled at them as friends that they don't doubt rejected In my field, my character hurt will call you a good time girl while you were Yeah, your character is hurt because you.

1:02:16 Speaker 1: Chase that friendship baby.

1:02:18 Speaker 2: Yeah.

1:02:19 Speaker 3: So that I think that we've gotten to the point now where the season was like progressing so organically and naturally and it was so like the best time in the world. It's gotten to the point now where I always feel like at certain points people start to panic and be like, oh gosh, we don't have much time left.

1:02:38 Speaker 1: Did we give a great season? What's going on? And so now we're.

1:02:42 Speaker 3: Starting to beat the dead horse a lot. And honestly, I'm gonna be real truthful with you. This episode especially, I barely focused on them. My whole focus was when Brittany said, did I tell you I copyright? I got copyrighted? Was high body count hair? That was the most interesting thing because I was like, oh, here we go, because she was the one I had to deal with this ship, right, she didn't want to have to deal with it, But now she's the one that was smart enough to do that.

1:03:08 Speaker 2: First.

1:03:08 Speaker 3: That was when I was interested in seeing exactly more that more of that exactly.

1:03:14 Speaker 1: So that's where I was focused on.

1:03:15 Speaker 3: I'm a little tired of Whitney and Heather because we all know it gets to a certain point where they're gonna who they want these constant apologies and constant this and constant that for really stuff that they're not willing to do either.

1:03:29 Speaker 2: And it's like, it's not about you at all. This is about you. She cursed out Britney and told her to go to hell.

1:03:35 Speaker 1: You worry about it.

1:03:37 Speaker 2: Hey, you're a bystander to this behavior, and you're crying as if like she needs to repent, and Merridam did say again this episode, I'm sorry. I don't know what else I can say that, And I'm like, okay, so can we squash it? But it and we can we can talk about it again and more. Heather's like, how are you feeling about you know, the groups not that positive? But why do you not feel positive? Meridith because you won't take accountability for what you said and did. And is it my fault that I'm mad at you because you're not a good friend and you called me a liar and you care about oh not me?

1:04:17 Speaker 2: And this is like, now she's mad you called her a pill popper? What stops out here her? I want to hear it from her? Well, she don't want to talk to you because you called her a pill popper. This is the rocket science.

1:04:28 Speaker 1: Right, I'm like, why can't we figure this out? You know why season set.

1:04:32 Speaker 2: Y'all so stupid? What are you doing?

1:04:34 Speaker 4: But when his mother said idiot idiots shook the world, Yes, idiot, That's exactly what I'm thinking, Like, girl, what.

1:04:46 Speaker 2: Again, where is she going to not be around you? Motherfuckers? You don't like you can't leave her alone? You're facing her? Are you excited about the groups today? Meredith? I just wanted to know, because yes, you apologize to me yesterday, but like, I just want to make sure you still feel like you apologize.

1:05:04 Speaker 1: Because at that point were just poking, like what you want for me? We are what do you actually want for me?

1:05:09 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to do more than give me a bracelet? To say, you know, for me to get over She's liked, well, I did try to call you three times.

1:05:15 Speaker 3: Right, That's where he has lost me, because it's like, now you want to do this on camera.

1:05:20 Speaker 2: Camera, you're bothered by it, and what Meredith did to you when there's a camera around and now that's the only thing you can address with her is nothing else. That's kind of crazy though. She's so fucking dramatic that nobody is a campy ass bitch. She's not really, She's like, she's not a real person. My son wanted to call me on Mother's Day. I want to speak to my children, and they ruined that. I'm like, girl, this is twenty plus.

1:05:44 Speaker 1: Now. Do you think he really called her?

1:05:46 Speaker 2: No, I think she texted it. Call me and she's like, they're excuing at me to get off the phone with my child.

1:05:52 Speaker 1: Right there.

1:05:53 Speaker 3: They hate you, and you're I have to get off the phone with you. I really hate this too. I know I'll talk to you another day.

1:05:58 Speaker 2: Oh goodness, thank you for calling me. While the way, my mama be like, hi, mommy, what do you need. I'm like, I love you. I'm having a hard day. PM Key telling me how to do things, and she's like, you money, I'm busy, I gotta go Mindeelly's retired right exactly. She's just like what you're calling for. We talked this morning, Sweedie was up. I'm like, okay, well that was this morning.

1:06:22 Speaker 1: I need you now.

1:06:24 Speaker 2: I need you bring down at two forty nine. I need you today again you call me, girl, calm down his own damn show when you were like, again, will you call me?

1:06:43 Speaker 3: The fact her striking down that heel in those heels was so unseerious, so uns and you can tell she had nowhere else to go because she didn't know, she didn't know where they were, and she didn't really have an escape plan. She's like, you know what, let me go back up this damn hill and go sit cooking class, lay.

1:06:58 Speaker 2: On the bus. I would have just stayed on the vand with them and be like, I'm not doing it right.

1:07:02 Speaker 3: Or even if you did make the mistake of getting off, call somebody to take you back, like production would have taken you back, Like.

1:07:11 Speaker 2: Somebody can take you somewhere. Go get me a Grecian pizza and I'll be over there. Y'all have fun. I don't feel good about the group. I'm gonna go explore on my own right, coming back three o'clock. Great, because I love being me. I love hanging out. You can see me eating the sharkocie board over there on the

1:07:33 Speaker 2: with some olives and a little shard, a little something like, I'm good and talking bad about me. I'm snacking, having a good Me and Mary we over there, okay, I'm Marry over there eating where the food at.

1:07:47 Speaker 1: Having a great time, okay, a great.

1:07:50 Speaker 2: Great time like house lives, good and plenty. They're doing their thing. We're excited for them to come on out and when they come back in the new year. But truthfully, while they're on pause, the rest of the world keeps going. I have to ask if you were ever a barb you.

1:08:09 Speaker 3: Know, I never you know, the fandoms scare me. I never consider myself to be a park. Now I definitely would consider myself anything be high because I fight for beyonceite because she's one problem. She don't bother, no batter so like to herself. And this is a good if. I've never seen a better example of reason.

1:08:28 Speaker 2: Why this is.

1:08:29 Speaker 1: It exactly bother nobody it.

1:08:32 Speaker 2: Because honestly, real quick before you answer the question. I on the Kardashians. I just recently saw chendoll editing her mom's closet and she being like, I don't think you need this, and she said, Beyonce gave that to me. I said, Beyonce, don't hate you, which is crazy. I had just found out that Beyonce went to Christian his birthday party.

1:08:53 Speaker 1: That's crazy.

1:08:54 Speaker 2: And you know, but again, the amount of people that are respecting like them rich people because they're rich, it's really crazy to me. But I'm not in that bracket. I can't understand. But I have to say, like that, lady, I like that. I don't know that I should not know where beyond State stands if I would to remain a fan of hers, to which I say, barbs, so sorry for your loss this week?

1:09:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, because when I she to single handedly ruined your entire legacy is crazy for no, like you can't want to partner for your husband this band like.

1:09:26 Speaker 1: This is cool to me?

1:09:28 Speaker 3: Or bro right, baby, I can't understand. I always loved Nicki Minaj's but but let me be very clear. I love I've always start nick Minaj is one of the best to ever do it. Love her music the theatrics, all of that, But I've that's never stopped me from liking other rappers just as much. That's when me and the barbs heavily different. When Nikki be wrong, she be wrong. When she right, she right, I'm not. I'm not with none of that. So this week, this almost feels like it's been a long.

1:09:59 Speaker 1: Time, Bruin. It's been a long time cause Nigga's been picking fights with Yeah.

1:10:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been like them tweets. I've been letting her say whatever, do whatever, and now she done really embarrassed all to day. Man, I ain't you like it? I said, now, what in the shucking job? Exactly? I've never and I thought we were watching the best shucking job at the u N But no, we took it up a notch.

1:10:26 Speaker 1: So she listened.

1:10:28 Speaker 3: The lady said a whole lot of she said a whole lot of offensive, incredibly egregious things, but calling the man handsome was where I drew the line. I was like, oh, now you're just playing in my face, Like that's wow to me to prefer that man as handsome or you just doing at this.

1:10:44 Speaker 2: Especially considering apparently some clips have already resurfaced of the role model for girls. Yeah, put is something many of the conservative white people have said because they like to put it on the responsibility on celebrities to raise their children and not them. So I know the argument has never stood for me. I could give a shit about an adult person doing what they got to do in a market, in the capitalist society to sell records and music. If you don't like your child watching it, that's when you step into me.

1:11:14 Speaker 2: Not Leanna having to put on a sweatshirt because your child might be in the room. She didn't raise, she didn't make that child, so she could give a shit about your child. She can care about her child having headphones on in the back so they don't hear her. But if we're gonna count it you caping for I mean, they just said you was bad news. That's crazy, yes, stupid. It's just more about like the look stupid effect, which I do feel bad for the girls because a lady who is very talented, like ingenuity out that behind in music really has taken her own legacy down by being like as she got older and out of the music industry, she looks stupider by the day.

1:11:57 Speaker 1: It's just sad.

1:12:00 Speaker 2: It can hate that for her, g blessed, but your news. I did see that. The twenty five This is how old I realized. I am. The twenty fifth anniversary of Bring It On with Gabrielle and Kirsten Duncey did a little reunion for Google, and I was like, Wow, I'm old, but I'm happy they're having an It's time. Like the amount of anniversaries and reunions that are happening this year for like twenty years of this, twenty five of this, songs that are turning twenty years old, and things like that Boy is Mine.

1:12:37 Speaker 1: And all these I'm like, why Carrie very scary about?

1:12:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's j Blige's album The Breakthrough just turned to twenty.

1:12:48 Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy, how crazy?

1:12:50 Speaker 2: Listen to it?

1:12:51 Speaker 1: Chemistry is crazy.

1:12:52 Speaker 2: Br the get go.

1:12:54 Speaker 1: Neither one of us knew.

1:12:57 Speaker 2: Exactly blind with and just walk. I got some sense in a pepperins the streets. Okay, what else are you watching that has your attention right now? When you're not watching your housewives and your shows that you cover for your show. I cannot what else are you watching? It's not your attention right now.

1:13:19 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be real honest with you. I'm having a good time with some old stuff. The Traders is coming faster than we know. I've been just rewatching old seasons and Traders. You know, I finished a celebrity Traders UK.

1:13:30 Speaker 1: That was a ball.

1:13:31 Speaker 3: I've never seen such dignified fighting in my life. I had a great time. Yes, rewatched season one with Sorie how she you know, dominated her season so good. Randomly rewatched season two recently. I have a good time rewatching stuff. I'm back into the Fallout world on Prime. So I've been watching season one. I'm in the midst of that, and so I'll go on to a season two in a minute. But they're doing week the week releases, so there's no brother. They pissed me off with that anyway. Of course, watching heated Robbery with everyone else on the planet.

1:14:05 Speaker 3: And I'm just having a good time, just not stressing all the things that people are trying to force me to watch, just watching whatever feels good that day. I'm really leaning into it exactly. Whatever brings me joy, whatever sparkles and brings sunshine.

1:14:18 Speaker 2: Yes, come on, Maricondo of TV. Yes, you know it doesn't give you or release it. I love that to watch TV. Don't mean for me is like I gotta go with sometimes the things I know. I want to watch things that are new or exciting or train, you know, or a train. But then every once in a while, I'm like, y'all, I'm rewatching Gossip Girl, isn't it? Yeah, it's so good. But it's like goodsistent drama TV that I know is going to be interested. It's been what it needs to do, It does what it needs to do that and you know, also for the girls who like reality TV, the new season of Dance Moms is actually really fucking good.

1:14:55 Speaker 2: It really really good. Yeah, And I have been watching out a loyalty because the new era was filmed in Virginia. It's not or my wife works and she has some patients who actually are either involved with the new studio or or work there or whatever. So the thing is that the new Lady is like the nicest version of Abbey Lee Miller ever. Like she's a real teacher. She's good with kids, but she's tough as hell gets your bunch of solid winds can do a pretty lirical number the whole nine yards, but she's like not aggressive to your egregiously mean to your children, which is great, right, Yeah, they get a part of this long standing studio forever and ever that was like the talk of the town on the west of the East coast, big in the DMV.

1:15:41 Speaker 2: And then literally this was not playing for the TV show out of nowhere, after like fifteen plus years of that studio being open, it just closed. No classes were canceled, nobody knew anything. People showed up and it was just a sound on the door. It was nothing. It was gone. There was no phone number. It just said closed. There was nothing. And they had just finished a successful season on Hulu of Dance Moms, so people were confused. In real life, the studio just closed down and there was some financial troubles and different stuff.

1:16:11 Speaker 2: The girls were homeless for it. The studio is for a minute, and so the second season starts with the same girls who are now national champions not having a studio. We think glows reputation. The dance teacher's reputation being ruined because she was the face of it and it just closed, and her trying to get her reputation back by building, keeping the team, getting the studio space back, doing all these things. But like, because of that, it's an adult woman who has a lotted stake of her reputation.

1:16:38 Speaker 2: And we're seeing some happy Lee Miller like anxiety, behavior and harshness, but not to the detriment of a child self esteem and development. But it's intense. And know these moms. This is why Potomac has no problem casting just on the casting in one area, because these Ashburn, Virginia moms, honey money is out the ass they do spend all the money to make sure their children are the best. They they look good, they look good, they all want to be gorgeous, they all want to be on TV. They know the assignment.

1:17:13 Speaker 2: But they're also just can't be big loud, big loud mouthed women who want their beautiful daughters to be the best and the number one in everyone's eyes. Money is no object, but so it's not an equalizer. And it's really good. I my wife and I binged it very very quickly. It was super super good. So if you're into the old dance moms, this one's even better. The moms have great drama, like amazing, very diverse. Whole cast is diverse, so one thing we could not say about those ladies in Pittsburgh. So that's a really good one and Camora back in the Fab Lane all over that love you because I love life in the Fab Lane and I hams and she is letting it all hang out about him.

1:17:59 Speaker 2: Love it. We roast the man for doing terrible things and he has Yeah time, good TV. So more of that on TV. More of you for whoever wants to listen and watch you. Of course, use the formality of letting everybody know where they can listen to you and find you if for some reason this is their first time ever falling in love with your amazing sense of like reality.

1:18:22 Speaker 1: Of course, first of all, thank you for having me. You know I love it over here. Listen to me anywhere you listen to.

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1:18:50 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.

1:18:51 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being here, y'all. Kendrick is so fun on Thridays. I love being on three. I'm getting into it even more so. That's literally one of the reasons I asked him to come on here was like, oh, you know, give me your your takes and your opinions. Let's expound upon that both follow him on threads and Instagram. I too like to cut up in stories. I am having the time of my life, and y'all have to respond back. We'd be having he and my stories. I needed to is that I needed to do it so there's not as much evidence of my poor choices and behaviors and things we talk about, the shows we talk about, you know, the different posts, things that happening in the world, hot topics, and when I'm at Trader Joe's and the cash register is nice to me and sometimes it's mean to me.

1:19:34 Speaker 2: Or was it that Monny picked up three different kinds of dips because they were all new and they sounded yummy? What am I supposed to do with the classic Caesar salad? Did not get it? Chip? They have? And to see the salad dip? Let me just put y'all.

1:19:53 Speaker 1: On okay, okay.

1:19:58 Speaker 2: Mixing with MANI ex science we W I T H M A N I thanks for leaving a little review five stars whatever with Moni podcast on Spotify and all of them. My wrap looks so cute, I'm probably gonna put it up there. But thank you guys so much for listening this year. I might have one more episode come out before the new year, but it's so things are slowing down, so I really just want to say thanks so much to Kendrick for helping me get something out there so that y'all can have a little bit of something to listen to as you prepare to see the family, to bake the turkey, to just even you know, puff your joint, sip your one outside, but then go inside.

1:20:35 Speaker 2: And you got this baby. You the life of the party. They can't do it without you. Have a glass. Take care of yourselves, y'all, rest and recover. Thank you all so much for listening, and happy holidays.

1:20:46 Speaker 1: Happy holidays,