The Mix w/Kara—Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Recap

0:16 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologists out there.

0:28 Speaker 1: It is your girl Money and you're in the mix

0:32 Speaker 1: with Money and Cara Berry from everyone's business but mine,

0:37 Speaker 1: which is still, I think, to this day even above

0:40 Speaker 1: my own, the most iconic podcast name ever.

0:43 Speaker 2: It's just because that's.

0:44 Speaker 1: Literally the vibe that is on her show. But that's

0:48 Speaker 1: like what I live by. Literally anybody else's business but

0:52 Speaker 1: my one. Because we don't got a lot of drama

0:54 Speaker 1: going on in my house.

0:55 Speaker 2: We're chilling and.

0:56 Speaker 1: I like it just like that. But everybody else, let's

1:00 Speaker 1: talk about it. And for our subject today, I could

1:04 Speaker 1: not have anybody else other than Kara. Thank you so

1:06 Speaker 1: much for coming back on. It's been a minute. I'm

1:08 Speaker 1: so glad you're here.

1:09 Speaker 3: It's been like two minutes. I'm so happy to be back. Yeah,

1:13 Speaker 3: we have a lot to talk about.

1:15 Speaker 2: Girl.

1:16 Speaker 3: I'm like that scene from Me and Girls, Like I

1:18 Speaker 3: can't stop talking about it.

1:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the more I was talking about it,

1:23 Speaker 1: the more I was like hoping someone will bring it up,

1:26 Speaker 1: Like I don't know else to text about the secret

1:29 Speaker 1: lives of Mormon wives. If you didn't know, that's what

1:31 Speaker 1: we're talking about. That is what we are freaking talking

1:35 Speaker 1: about today.

1:36 Speaker 2: I am out of people to tell.

1:38 Speaker 1: I know my mom won't watch, and I'm still like

1:41 Speaker 1: debating should I just be like, just you won't get it,

1:45 Speaker 1: you won't understand anything, but you just see if you

1:48 Speaker 1: have the same draw dropping moments that I do. Like

1:53 Speaker 1: when they just slide the fact that they do ketamine

1:55 Speaker 1: in there and then start spelling other people's secrets. I'm

1:59 Speaker 1: just like, like, Utah is a wild fucking place and.

2:05 Speaker 3: We need to start really mentioning it all about that,

2:08 Speaker 3: because yeah, be out here, wow on the fuck out

2:12 Speaker 3: and they're just like living and it's like almost like

2:15 Speaker 3: do we live in the same country, because.

2:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like this is not it's not a real place.

2:22 Speaker 2: It can't be a real place. It Like it's so interesting.

2:25 Speaker 1: It's like the contrast of the white snow white people

2:32 Speaker 1: status quo. Like all the girls look the same, that's

2:35 Speaker 1: like the whole trope.

2:36 Speaker 2: Like all these.

2:37 Speaker 1: Young mommy blogger type they want to like there's like

2:42 Speaker 1: a carbon copy photo that they take to beauty lab

2:45 Speaker 1: and laser and ask for that, like they want that

2:49 Speaker 1: book of each other. But like that contrasted with like

2:54 Speaker 1: all the weird nuances because of rules and their workarounds

2:58 Speaker 1: of the rules. Uh so there's like soda shops like

3:04 Speaker 1: so like not old school but like modern coffee house

3:08 Speaker 1: vibes like go in and get a doctor Pepper mix up,

3:14 Speaker 1: Like what is happening?

3:15 Speaker 2: Like it's not a real place.

3:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like speaking like the need to be

3:22 Speaker 3: a part, Like I really thought that that was mostly

3:25 Speaker 3: like a Heather Gay insecurity thing, but like, come to

3:28 Speaker 3: find out, not only do they want it, they like

3:31 Speaker 3: I think it's ridiculous that you wouldn't want to look

3:33 Speaker 3: exactly like your homegirl next to you and the homegirl

3:36 Speaker 3: next to her. That really was eye opening for me.

3:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, because in their mind it's like, well, we know

3:42 Speaker 1: the prototype works. We know that it's very stepfort wives,

3:46 Speaker 1: and we know this is what sells. This is where

3:49 Speaker 1: we are, Like, this is what makes even being traditional

3:54 Speaker 1: wives like you know, tradwives, Mormon wives, whatever, this is

3:58 Speaker 1: what makes like it okay to do that because we

4:02 Speaker 1: look modern and we look cute, and we have highlights

4:04 Speaker 1: and we're zesty and we still listen to hip hop

4:07 Speaker 1: and we know how to work and that's okay. And

4:11 Speaker 1: so they have to just redo the same formula over

4:15 Speaker 1: and over and over because they're like, we know it works,

4:17 Speaker 1: and to be honest, it does. They are all they

4:20 Speaker 1: all look the same, They all do the exact same

4:23 Speaker 1: content literally together. It looks like Alabama Rush talk when

4:27 Speaker 1: they all look alike, and they all still are making

4:31 Speaker 1: like exorbitant amounts of money off of doing what they're

4:35 Speaker 1: doing even though it all looks the same.

4:38 Speaker 2: So apparently in bloom or whoever really.

4:41 Speaker 1: Lights like beach waves highlights and duck lips with no parts. Yeah,

4:48 Speaker 1: two Tululemon sports bra and comfy you know leggings like combo.

4:56 Speaker 3: And I really I also want to unpack the pnant

5:00 Speaker 3: belly exposure, like what's gone? Like I don't care, Like

5:05 Speaker 3: I'm not, I don't.

5:06 Speaker 1: Care, but I didn't know it was like the thing

5:08 Speaker 1: you're bringing, Like it's like you're a little it's like

5:10 Speaker 1: either you have a little lemon like fanny pack or

5:14 Speaker 1: a belly.

5:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it almost feels like a flex to have,

5:18 Speaker 3: like a perfect no stretch mark belly, Like I I

5:21 Speaker 3: gotta show that off.

5:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's not even weird flex but okay, like

5:26 Speaker 1: it's a nice flex.

5:27 Speaker 2: Like there are a lot of one people are like,

5:28 Speaker 2: god damn it.

5:29 Speaker 1: Like if I could have wore crop tops and a

5:32 Speaker 1: cute Lulu and all my Lulu slats, I would have

5:35 Speaker 1: had a nice time, Like my athletic sports brawl was

5:39 Speaker 1: not fitting over that, Like and I understand that makes

5:42 Speaker 1: so much sense, But so how did we get here?

5:47 Speaker 1: I famously like how did you find mom Talk? And

5:51 Speaker 1: the how we how we got to this show? Like

5:54 Speaker 1: did you already know about it? Did you find out

5:56 Speaker 1: about it? I mean you cover all the best pop

5:58 Speaker 1: culture and all the TV shows, but like where did

6:01 Speaker 1: your journey start specifically with mom Talk to leading to

6:05 Speaker 1: this show?

6:07 Speaker 3: Definitely with the Swinger scandal, Like I'm always on TikTok,

6:12 Speaker 3: but I'm not on the we're dancing the QTc kind

6:16 Speaker 3: of stuff, like their brand of TikTok is not in

6:19 Speaker 3: that neck of the.

6:20 Speaker 2: Woods my algorithm at all.

6:22 Speaker 3: But you were talking about being a little hoe. Oh

6:26 Speaker 3: that will be on my for you page, so that like, okay,

6:30 Speaker 3: let's talk about this woman. I really wasn't sure like

6:37 Speaker 3: racially what was going on with Taylor. So I'm like, oh,

6:41 Speaker 3: here's this like ethnically ambiguous woman who is just admitting

6:47 Speaker 3: that you know, the girls that you see me doing

6:50 Speaker 3: a to count with are also the ones who were,

6:54 Speaker 3: you know, hooking up with my husband and vice versa.

6:57 Speaker 3: And also I took things a little bit too far.

7:00 Speaker 3: We're playing, you know, had sausage and that was against

7:03 Speaker 3: the rules and I'm like, okay, well yeah, I know.

7:07 Speaker 1: But seriously, I think for me it was kind of

7:10 Speaker 1: the same you know, famously friends to the show where

7:13 Speaker 1: a mom'sa Bravo. Vanessa and Abby we're doing like a

7:16 Speaker 1: deep dive because they're on mom talk, which would make sense.

7:19 Speaker 1: They're both moms, they're cool moms, and like that content

7:23 Speaker 1: like fell into their world right, and it was and

7:26 Speaker 1: remarkably in kind of like a weird, like comical way,

7:30 Speaker 1: like in a laughing at sometimes because it's sometimes ridiculous

7:33 Speaker 1: that these women just dance around and put questions and

7:36 Speaker 1: answers like that no one really asked or wanted to know,

7:40 Speaker 1: right captions while they're doing a dance, like that's really

7:44 Speaker 1: all it is. There's nothing, you know, there's no new

7:46 Speaker 1: content that's actually happening. They're not making skits and songs

7:50 Speaker 1: and anything like that. So they were like kind of

7:53 Speaker 1: in like a mocking way of like, look, at these vives,

7:55 Speaker 1: these moms doing these things, but they're having a nice

7:58 Speaker 1: time and then boom scandal. And my thing is if

8:02 Speaker 1: you're telling somebody's secrets or if you say story time

8:05 Speaker 1: on my fo you page, that's it's happening. Like both

8:10 Speaker 1: both this came to my for you page and Resa

8:12 Speaker 1: Tisa who tot I marry, like, I want you to

8:16 Speaker 1: spell secrets, tell me a scandal. I'm always down for

8:19 Speaker 1: a story time. And they started covering the whole swinging

8:24 Speaker 1: community of these Mormon wives soft swinging as Taylor called it,

8:29 Speaker 1: and I think that piqued everyone's interest, like what the

8:32 Speaker 1: hell is soft swinging.

8:33 Speaker 3: Like with a couple named Tate and Taylor like oh wow,

8:39 Speaker 3: you know?

8:40 Speaker 1: And you know? And also I think it was refreshing,

8:43 Speaker 1: which I never understood why Taylor got you know, she

8:45 Speaker 1: was the villain because she exposed everyone, and I guess

8:50 Speaker 1: that was you know. The big fallout is that everyone

8:52 Speaker 1: nobody wanted to be associated with the soft swinging because

8:55 Speaker 1: obviously it's not of the rules, right, So they all

8:58 Speaker 1: distanced themselves from Taylor distiness and social knows rumors and

9:01 Speaker 1: Taylor was like, girl, I have all the evidence don't

9:04 Speaker 1: ever play me, play with yourself like I will expose all.

9:08 Speaker 2: Of you right now. And it was.

9:10 Speaker 1: It caused a whole fallout and the cameras didn't even

9:13 Speaker 1: come into play until quite some time after, which is

9:16 Speaker 1: why there was like as Taylor and all this was happening,

9:20 Speaker 1: they quickly got a brand deal, like a deal to

9:22 Speaker 1: do the show, and I imagine that's why so many

9:25 Speaker 1: people welcomed her back into the fold.

9:30 Speaker 3: But we heard that they signed on to six seasons.

9:37 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, heard.

9:39 Speaker 1: I'm like, thank you Mormon gods. We I immediately after

9:46 Speaker 1: season about fifth episode, I said, we need a season two.

9:49 Speaker 1: I already know I'm not gonna wrap up well.

9:51 Speaker 3: During cameras up by the end of the month.

9:54 Speaker 2: I need them up right now.

9:56 Speaker 3: I deally the end of the week, right, I deal

9:58 Speaker 3: the end of the week.

9:59 Speaker 2: I wanted.

9:59 Speaker 1: I really wanted to get everyone's, like people's I want

10:02 Speaker 1: their reactions to the show.

10:06 Speaker 3: One thing I will say about Whitney, and we have

10:08 Speaker 3: a lot to talk about her, but one thing I

10:09 Speaker 3: will say, and it's probably going to be the last

10:11 Speaker 3: nice thing I say about her, is that she did

10:14 Speaker 3: say it would be pretty like a really great idea

10:19 Speaker 3: for them to get cameras up right now while we're

10:21 Speaker 3: feeling all the emotions of the reactions of people and like,

10:24 Speaker 3: you know, and like, I'm with you, girl, You're absolutely right.

10:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think maybe producers wanted to settle and they

10:31 Speaker 1: want to see how it goes to all of their heads,

10:33 Speaker 1: and so yeah, they're waiting out, you know, as it

10:37 Speaker 1: settles down, probably like after the holidays, then they'll probably

10:41 Speaker 1: pick cameras back up and we'll actually see a lot

10:46 Speaker 1: of character development for a lot of these women who

10:49 Speaker 1: realize like who the villains are, who the fans are.

10:52 Speaker 1: Like I'm curious to see what a second season for

10:54 Speaker 1: like someone like Demi looks like, because she came off

10:58 Speaker 1: really well this season. And you know, you either live,

11:02 Speaker 1: you know long what is it long enough to be

11:04 Speaker 1: a hero or.

11:07 Speaker 2: Die a hero living to be a villain.

11:09 Speaker 3: I was thinking that exact same thing. Every time I

11:12 Speaker 3: see somebody that I like on a reality show, low key,

11:15 Speaker 3: I want to DM them and be like, don't do anything,

11:19 Speaker 3: don't change, don't let like I'm gonna tell you I

11:22 Speaker 3: love you, but you gotta let that shit go. Put

11:24 Speaker 3: it in the trash can. Because once you get a

11:26 Speaker 3: big head about this. It's over and it's.

11:28 Speaker 2: Rue, it's ruined.

11:30 Speaker 1: Like I am even curious to see how Taylor, you know,

11:33 Speaker 1: comes off because on TikTok and Everything, Taylor was the

11:37 Speaker 1: villain because she was outing everybody's you know, business, which

11:40 Speaker 1: in real life, like real life money understands that if

11:44 Speaker 1: you spill my internet my business on the internet, and

11:47 Speaker 1: you know we have a large Internet following, that's nasty,

11:50 Speaker 1: Like I don't like that, don't do that to me.

11:52 Speaker 1: But also he's women to calm down. No one gives

11:54 Speaker 1: a fuck of your soft swinging or not, like we

11:56 Speaker 1: don't care. And Taylor, out of herself has had to

11:59 Speaker 1: be an affair. She was like, we tried to switch

12:01 Speaker 1: partners like more intimately and they were like and didn't

12:04 Speaker 1: love it, and they said they thought that was the

12:06 Speaker 1: end of it. It wasn't.

12:08 Speaker 2: No, we kept.

12:10 Speaker 1: Going And so I understand that part. But on the

12:13 Speaker 1: show she actually came across really really well. And I

12:17 Speaker 1: wonder how that will even play out in another season

12:20 Speaker 1: of Like she wasn't the villain the first season, but

12:23 Speaker 1: will she be now that Whitney is like, I don't

12:28 Speaker 1: I don't imagine a good much of anything for Whitney

12:31 Speaker 1: after this season alone, because that woman had a tough time.

12:36 Speaker 2: She had a very tough time.

12:39 Speaker 3: Gosh, but I truly think that this is just like

12:41 Speaker 3: how Whitney is because yeah, like you're right, Like, I

12:46 Speaker 3: think we all went into this thinking that Taylor was

12:48 Speaker 3: going to be the villain from yeah to episode eight

12:52 Speaker 3: and she was just gonna be a disaster, and really

12:55 Speaker 3: she was just in her own worst enemy, you know.

12:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean really she was just like an excellent

13:02 Speaker 1: foil for Dakota.

13:03 Speaker 2: Like that's all it was.

13:07 Speaker 3: Right, Like, Taylor really just hurt herself. She wasn't terribly

13:11 Speaker 3: malicious towards everybody else. Whitney run around be a little

13:15 Speaker 3: demon in a hair flip.

13:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, first of all, the hair.

13:20 Speaker 1: Okay, let me just say, for anyone who's on the

13:23 Speaker 1: fence about this show, Whitney won't make sense, it will

13:26 Speaker 1: sound like an insufferable reason to not watch. I'm here

13:29 Speaker 1: to remind you there is no reason to not watch.

13:32 Speaker 1: She is absolutely a reason to watch. Because of how

13:36 Speaker 1: insufferable she is going to sound. I just also want

13:40 Speaker 1: to remind people that Whitney. Yep, first of all, for

13:48 Speaker 1: all the husbands, you have to suspend your suspicions of

13:53 Speaker 1: their sexuality, and remind yourselves. One, we can't clock anybody's true,

13:59 Speaker 1: but if we could, we have to remember there is

14:05 Speaker 1: a different set of rules that the people are playing.

14:08 Speaker 2: With over there in Utah, Okay.

14:11 Speaker 1: So they're in a different kind of sexual repression where

14:15 Speaker 1: maybe if we notice something, they may may they may

14:19 Speaker 1: not have, or they have and may not want us to.

14:23 Speaker 3: So yeah, it feels like case scenario is that you

14:29 Speaker 3: are able to acknowledge, but you're still going to be

14:34 Speaker 3: in a heterosexual relationship.

14:36 Speaker 1: Like yes, but it's there are definitely some instances where

14:40 Speaker 1: I'm like, I think that every time you're pregnant, you

14:44 Speaker 1: think it's going to make us believe.

14:46 Speaker 2: Your spouse is a heterosexual person.

14:50 Speaker 1: Correct, And I worry that that is the most you

14:55 Speaker 1: can do and still not enough. And I worry allso

15:00 Speaker 1: so that your body doing all of that to make

15:04 Speaker 1: that kind of proof.

15:05 Speaker 2: Wow, like wow, because I'm.

15:07 Speaker 1: Pregnant, he obviously had to have sex with me, And yeah,

15:13 Speaker 1: it's still giving girl what you don't want it to.

15:16 Speaker 1: I just need some of these women to know you

15:19 Speaker 1: can spot.

15:20 Speaker 4: The diffy like hell, and now he said it, and

15:25 Speaker 4: we said it, and the wild thing is like, I

15:28 Speaker 4: was really sitting there thinking about it, and I think

15:30 Speaker 4: Whitney might be the only wife that we see on

15:34 Speaker 4: the show that uh is not married as a result

15:38 Speaker 4: of a pregnancy that happened when they were a teenager.

15:41 Speaker 2: Oh of course not.

15:43 Speaker 3: I think she's really the only one in the cast

15:45 Speaker 3: who did not have a baby.

15:46 Speaker 1: No accidents happening there, I promise anytime that they have

15:52 Speaker 1: done the act of procreation practice or probably just pro creation,

16:00 Speaker 1: they have everyone had full understanding of what they were

16:04 Speaker 1: doing and it was not an accident and it was

16:08 Speaker 1: on purpose.

16:09 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean even Whitney talking about their first night,

16:14 Speaker 3: their wedding night, and she positions it as though like, well,

16:19 Speaker 3: this is a result of my mom not teaching me

16:22 Speaker 3: about sex, which is true, like obviously we know that

16:25 Speaker 3: the sex education is animal. But also she was like

16:29 Speaker 3: describing it as like a horror movie and then a comedy,

16:33 Speaker 3: And then you look at her husband and you're like, yeah.

16:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would like more on Whitney.

16:41 Speaker 2: I need more background to information.

16:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like every feeling of no, no, no that you're

16:49 Speaker 3: having when we talk about Whitney is going to be

16:52 Speaker 3: the reason why you should watch it.

16:53 Speaker 1: Exactly because I have watched it, and even in review

16:57 Speaker 1: and reflection myself right now I'm like, actually, I do

17:01 Speaker 1: need a second season of her and possibly a spinoff.

17:04 Speaker 1: And I'm not joking. It's a there's a there's a

17:08 Speaker 1: quirkiness there. I'll kim zosiac, but like in a different

17:12 Speaker 1: way of like what's going on? I just I think

17:17 Speaker 1: her husband had like more different looks and hair situations

17:20 Speaker 1: than Whitney did.

17:21 Speaker 3: A new unit every episode, sometimes twice an episode, So

17:26 Speaker 3: what is this episode?

17:28 Speaker 1: There were different pieces getting laid them, edges were edging,

17:33 Speaker 1: and the leave out was leaving out, and it was like, okay,

17:37 Speaker 1: very nice, he said, the cameras are here. I got

17:40 Speaker 1: to turn it on. I'm like, get shows today, thaking

17:44 Speaker 1: of getting shows. Whitney is the greatest friend pick me

17:48 Speaker 1: I've ever seen, correct.

17:52 Speaker 3: My word, and the way she won't acknowledge it, she will.

17:58 Speaker 1: Not Like I I made a meme of like my

18:02 Speaker 1: thoughts that have if you haven't watched, have very little context,

18:05 Speaker 1: but like if you have, they are probably fantastically spot

18:10 Speaker 1: on for how you experienced it too, I hope. But

18:12 Speaker 1: the Whitney one of like an empty room every time

18:15 Speaker 1: she announces that she's leaving the group, because by my calculation,

18:19 Speaker 1: it's like four times in one season that she left

18:24 Speaker 1: the mom Talk group and was disappointed. Then no one

18:27 Speaker 1: either threw a funeral like a sad grievance party or

18:31 Speaker 1: called to check on her from her own decision.

18:35 Speaker 3: Her name might start with W, but all she was

18:38 Speaker 3: doing was taken l's like.

18:39 Speaker 1: El els Kara, and then she took us on a

18:43 Speaker 1: goat farm, like what are you doing?

18:47 Speaker 2: The producers were pissed.

18:48 Speaker 1: You know they're not Bravo producers because they actually had

18:51 Speaker 1: to go, because Bravo producers will quickly be like, man,

18:53 Speaker 1: we are not going to split up the crew, the van,

18:56 Speaker 1: the snacks and all of that to go because you

18:59 Speaker 1: don't want to with the group.

19:01 Speaker 3: I was truly cackling when she was truly like like

19:05 Speaker 3: Will Smith in the living room, like wow, they want

19:09 Speaker 3: me man like hands in her pockets and all of

19:11 Speaker 3: a sudden we turned into Nur Smith. We're making gram

19:14 Speaker 3: crackers and animal crackers straight out the oven. We're acting

19:19 Speaker 3: like we want to have chickens. And she's like, you're

19:22 Speaker 3: scrambling real bad, because so bad. But nobody likes you, and.

19:30 Speaker 1: They're what they're not going to do, girl, is follow

19:32 Speaker 1: your journey into being a full on trad wife.

19:34 Speaker 2: They're not.

19:35 Speaker 3: If they were gonna do that, they'd get Nara Smith.

19:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, they would have gotten some actual, you know, nice

19:42 Speaker 1: problematic trad wives that are or whatever her name is. Yeah,

19:47 Speaker 1: the girl he's on TikTok who like to say the

19:49 Speaker 1: N word, chicken Sally.

19:57 Speaker 2: I've always been confused when she did that. I was like,

20:00 Speaker 2: what is this? How is this relevant to the salad

20:03 Speaker 2: you're making?

20:04 Speaker 3: I don't want to know why am I in it?

20:08 Speaker 1: Now?

20:09 Speaker 2: I just got here? Oh my god, I just wanted

20:13 Speaker 2: to click.

20:13 Speaker 1: I let your hair tie, and I wanted to know

20:15 Speaker 1: where you got it and what you were making.

20:17 Speaker 2: And I'm being assaulted.

20:19 Speaker 1: That's too Like, so we don't want to follow that journey, Whitney.

20:23 Speaker 1: But let me tell you the whole situation of like

20:29 Speaker 1: I'm going to She kept escalating it every time, thinking

20:33 Speaker 1: that it would get a different reaction. And what is

20:35 Speaker 1: the definition of insanity? I want to remind people, Okay,

20:40 Speaker 1: because first she's like, I'm leaving the group chat and

20:43 Speaker 1: that she was really wanted someone and Kara helped me understand,

20:48 Speaker 1: was it too.

20:50 Speaker 2: She wanted someone to.

20:51 Speaker 1: Check on her that she was okay after she left

20:57 Speaker 1: the group chat.

20:59 Speaker 3: Well, she left, not because she wanted any sort of attention. However, right,

21:06 Speaker 3: if the shoe was on the other foot, she would

21:09 Speaker 3: immediately have called that person. But that's not what she

21:11 Speaker 3: wanted or expected. She didn't want the attention, but she

21:15 Speaker 3: would have given other people attention if it had not

21:18 Speaker 3: been her. That's that's all.

21:19 Speaker 1: She's right, right, So she would have just been nosy,

21:22 Speaker 1: and she was disappointed no one did the same.

21:24 Speaker 3: He would have been a good friend. Okay, if you

21:26 Speaker 3: guys don't want to do that, that's totally fun.

21:28 Speaker 2: That would have been a good friend.

21:29 Speaker 1: Who would have spilled your secrets after doing ketamine with

21:32 Speaker 1: another friend. She ain't spelled her own secrets. She spelled

21:36 Speaker 1: other people's secrets. That's terrible, but iconic, like that's true

21:41 Speaker 1: housewives behavior. Not she got loose and sit and I

21:44 Speaker 1: got some I got some tea for you. But yeah, no,

21:49 Speaker 1: just because she said that that didn't happen. That's exactly

21:52 Speaker 1: what happened, and it also helped me. Then she unfollowed

21:57 Speaker 1: everyone and actually wanted people to call her and basically

22:02 Speaker 1: asked why they why she was unfollowing them.

22:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, the people that she was very repeatedly saying were

22:09 Speaker 3: not her friends. They're not her friends that they're only

22:12 Speaker 3: doing mom talk for the greater good. They are not

22:15 Speaker 3: my friends. But why aren't they calling me? I don't

22:18 Speaker 3: they want me? Man?

22:20 Speaker 1: Calling you for what you said you don't want to

22:22 Speaker 1: be a Did you not say that?

22:24 Speaker 3: Like I kept I don't it and I and I don't.

22:27 Speaker 3: But I just think it's weird that you didn't call me, Okay,

22:30 Speaker 3: like I don't want attention, but why didn't you?

22:33 Speaker 1: Also, the girls, it's actually sad because the girls are

22:36 Speaker 1: in the confessionals pretty much being like it actually sucks

22:38 Speaker 1: the Whitney isn't here, and they're thinking they're respecting your

22:41 Speaker 1: boundaries because you keep putting them up, but they're performative

22:45 Speaker 1: and they're not real.

22:46 Speaker 3: So but they're also clocking her for that, which I loved,

22:50 Speaker 3: like that, loved that all of her were like, we

22:53 Speaker 3: see that she's literally just like a child, like taking

22:56 Speaker 3: her toys and leaving and then standing on the other

22:59 Speaker 3: side of the the lawn and waited.

23:01 Speaker 2: Like hello, stop her. Why has no one come in?

23:05 Speaker 2: To God to get me, asked me to stay.

23:08 Speaker 3: I guess I'm leaving now right now, like okay.

23:11 Speaker 2: Bye, there's twenty three of us.

23:13 Speaker 3: Okay, well right.

23:17 Speaker 1: Like there's I love it every single time a different

23:19 Speaker 1: woman is on the screen, because there's so many of

23:22 Speaker 1: them and they all look alike, they have to put

23:24 Speaker 1: their agent name just to remind you all that, yes,

23:29 Speaker 1: the twenty two year old does have more sense than

23:31 Speaker 1: this twenty eight year old.

23:32 Speaker 3: For whatever reason, Jenn her full government name or her

23:39 Speaker 3: husband's government name, and you know, God bless her for that.

23:44 Speaker 2: This is not a good year for the Aflac family.

23:48 Speaker 3: Not a good year to be a Jen Affleck, specifically.

23:51 Speaker 1: Specifically, the wrong Jen Affleck.

23:57 Speaker 2: God divorced.

24:01 Speaker 3: The wrong one, went to the courthouse the wrong one.

24:05 Speaker 1: If you do not know what we are talking about,

24:08 Speaker 1: apparently there's like a distant cousin of Ben Affleck who

24:12 Speaker 1: lives in Utah and is there with his prisoner, I

24:18 Speaker 1: mean wife.

24:20 Speaker 3: I have a quick question, so sorry to interrupt. By

24:22 Speaker 3: distant cousin, do you mean like he's still in the

24:26 Speaker 3: process of evolving into a human because he looks like

24:30 Speaker 3: he's in the middle, or did you just mean likes.

24:33 Speaker 1: I just been in there, and you know, distant cousins the.

24:39 Speaker 2: Right.

24:39 Speaker 1: The creature of which he resembles might be a result

24:42 Speaker 1: of some of those surgeries that are happening in the prisons.

24:47 Speaker 2: I don't know.

24:49 Speaker 3: He looks like the evolution of man, like the third one.

24:52 Speaker 1: And we are only roasting this man so hard and

24:55 Speaker 1: so heavy, so fast, so early, because he is the

24:57 Speaker 1: worst husband.

25:00 Speaker 3: He's ugly on the outside, and that's why we get

25:02 Speaker 3: to call him Ugly's ugly on the inside, and that's

25:05 Speaker 3: why we get to call him.

25:06 Speaker 1: Oh. I was perfectly fine with how you said it.

25:09 Speaker 1: I was like, sure, harsh, but that's exactly what I

25:11 Speaker 1: would have said.

25:12 Speaker 2: That's that's it.

25:13 Speaker 1: He's ugly on the outside, and it is because he's

25:16 Speaker 1: ugly on the inside. There is never I've never seen

25:19 Speaker 1: a more controlling, ridiculous, man like excuse for a man.

25:22 Speaker 1: And in his own he's lucky he has this religion

25:25 Speaker 1: to fall back on.

25:26 Speaker 3: Oh my, the way I mean, he is like the

25:29 Speaker 3: most miserable type of man that you could ever imagine,

25:33 Speaker 3: clearly propped up by his family and all the success.

25:37 Speaker 3: And here he is number four in this generation of

25:42 Speaker 3: surgeons apparently, and he hasn't had to do anything, Like

25:47 Speaker 3: he hasn't had to work, he hasn't had to be

25:50 Speaker 3: emotionally accountable, he hasn't had to like be nice to anybody.

25:55 Speaker 3: And the wild thing is like he chooses that life,

25:58 Speaker 3: like he could be an adult and rise above and

26:02 Speaker 3: be kind and respectful to his wife, but he's like,

26:05 Speaker 3: I don't have to and I'm not gonna no.

26:08 Speaker 1: Matter how it makes me look. Like the true definition

26:10 Speaker 1: of a narcissist is thinking that is like not trying

26:14 Speaker 1: to clean even clean up your act in front of company,

26:17 Speaker 1: Like that's crazy to me, Like you were actively wild

26:21 Speaker 1: and controlling to this woman in front of our faces.

26:25 Speaker 2: And the girls enough and ugly and ugly, poor girl.

26:32 Speaker 3: There's like, I mean, it's for all the housewives husbands

26:36 Speaker 3: that we have had to endure endoor. He's up there.

26:40 Speaker 2: He is up there and young. He's like what twenty

26:43 Speaker 2: five twenty six.

26:44 Speaker 3: He did his big one for real and.

26:47 Speaker 1: So like especially because one Jen's mom talk money that

26:51 Speaker 1: he is so upset about because he's so insecure, is

26:55 Speaker 1: helping put him through his gambling addiction and medical school.

27:00 Speaker 3: Hello, keeping that hair gel in his hair.

27:04 Speaker 1: His parents gave him money for medical school and to

27:07 Speaker 1: help with their life and expenses like their fucking children. Yeah,

27:12 Speaker 1: like to help with his life, and he gambled it away.

27:17 Speaker 3: Leaving his pregnant wife to you know, go t work

27:23 Speaker 3: on a kitchen island to make ends meat so they

27:25 Speaker 3: can eat ramen noodles. And you got the nerve to

27:28 Speaker 3: be ungrateful okay.

27:30 Speaker 1: Like it makes no sense, and didn't try to control

27:33 Speaker 1: what she does with it when she does it all

27:36 Speaker 1: those things like it makes I can't even like understand

27:40 Speaker 1: the thought process other than you truly have a mental

27:44 Speaker 1: health issue happening. There is a narcissism personality disorder there.

27:48 Speaker 1: And I'm no psychologist, but let me it's a it's bad.

27:53 Speaker 1: Like you are all of twenty five years old. This

27:56 Speaker 1: woman is twenty four years old and she wants to

28:00 Speaker 1: go to Vegas. They don't even drink kara. They don't drink,

28:02 Speaker 1: they don't gamble, they don't do anything. She just wants

28:05 Speaker 1: to go out with the girlies make some content to

28:09 Speaker 1: make money for your addiction.

28:11 Speaker 2: One. You can't even.

28:13 Speaker 1: Trust her to go away with her ten best friends

28:15 Speaker 1: who are always tiktoking and recording something because you're so

28:19 Speaker 1: afraid of what she would do, because you know you

28:21 Speaker 1: would be probably doing some messed up stuff, and so

28:24 Speaker 1: you have to escort her down to with your other

28:28 Speaker 1: abusive buddy, escort her down to Las Vegas, so that

28:34 Speaker 1: on a girl's trip, and you are not a girl.

28:36 Speaker 1: I do not like when the men get into the

28:38 Speaker 1: bitch shit. I don't like that.

28:39 Speaker 2: It's very peter of you.

28:41 Speaker 1: It's I don't like that. Where's Nini when you need

28:45 Speaker 1: her to call you out of your being a damn bitch?

28:48 Speaker 1: And then she's there. They go to a Chippendale's thing.

28:53 Speaker 2: Yes, I too. My mouth was a game.

28:55 Speaker 1: I said, whoa, that's risky for the Mormon girls chicken dales.

29:00 Speaker 1: But they went to Chippendale's. They did not even sit

29:04 Speaker 1: in the booth yet. No, and he is threatening the divorce.

29:09 Speaker 1: I said, you've gotta be kidding me.

29:12 Speaker 3: While they're backstage, Layla, the only single one is trying

29:17 Speaker 3: to have a decent time oiling down these Chippendale dancers.

29:21 Speaker 3: And Jen's in a corner like my marriage.

29:25 Speaker 1: Thinking her family is about to be broken up because

29:28 Speaker 1: she got on a bush, likely contractually obligated, like.

29:32 Speaker 3: You just want you hate her, hate her.

29:36 Speaker 1: You hate her because you know she contractually obligated to go,

29:40 Speaker 1: and that she did not know where it was because

29:43 Speaker 1: it was not her trip, and they wanted it to be,

29:46 Speaker 1: you know, jaw dropping, which it was. But we did

29:49 Speaker 1: not expect a divorce. And I think that we saw

29:51 Speaker 1: that on Taylor's face when she was comforting her and

29:55 Speaker 1: yelling at her and calling her all types of things

29:57 Speaker 1: and questioning her character and the other of her, his

30:01 Speaker 1: children and all the things, and saying's gonna divorce.

30:04 Speaker 2: Her, and she seems like.

30:07 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Jim seemed to just digest it as like yes,

30:10 Speaker 1: he's gonna do this, and Taylor was like, I'm sorry.

30:13 Speaker 3: What when even taylorned.

30:20 Speaker 1: She said, no, ma'am, if dakoda, I'm waiting for Dakoda.

30:24 Speaker 1: I also made a meme of Taylor is looking for

30:26 Speaker 1: anybody to call the hotline to get her out of

30:28 Speaker 1: this relationship. He's like, please call if you or someone

30:32 Speaker 1: you know has slept with my boyfriend, and no matter

30:38 Speaker 1: what amount of time it's been well to decide the

30:41 Speaker 1: statue of limitation, Please call today at one eight hundred.

30:44 Speaker 2: Get me out of here.

30:45 Speaker 3: Like the wind blows. Oh, my god. This sobody say

30:49 Speaker 3: the CODEA cheated on me?

30:51 Speaker 2: Right now?

30:52 Speaker 3: Is that what you said?

30:55 Speaker 1: I don't know how to tell her this and Taylor's

30:57 Speaker 1: like thank god.

31:01 Speaker 3: Like do you want me to break up with them? Like,

31:02 Speaker 3: just say it and I'll do it. I'll do it

31:04 Speaker 3: right now, I'll.

31:05 Speaker 2: Do Is that what you said? You said? Break up?

31:08 Speaker 2: You two? My other favorite podcasts to read.

31:14 Speaker 1: They typically have like merchandise and says break up with him,

31:18 Speaker 1: And I think I'm just waiting for her to do

31:20 Speaker 1: her big one and put that one.

31:24 Speaker 3: Put it on Dakota. They could do a little dance

31:26 Speaker 3: together on TikTok.

31:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, like, oh my god, Dakota situation for a different time.

31:32 Speaker 2: But Zach and.

31:34 Speaker 1: Jen aflack the fact that he would threaten divorce because

31:37 Speaker 1: she went with the girls to Chippendale's, did not stay,

31:41 Speaker 1: didn't get drunk.

31:42 Speaker 2: You're hurt this right.

31:43 Speaker 1: She didn't touch them, she did not talk to She

31:46 Speaker 1: literally avoided them like the freaking plague because she was

31:49 Speaker 1: so uncomfortable. She tried to say no to that. She

31:51 Speaker 1: said no to the TikTok, but she didn't advertise that

31:54 Speaker 1: she was there. But she wanted to tell her husband

31:57 Speaker 1: and He then ghost her for somewhat of like a

32:02 Speaker 1: bunch of ten hours and he just goes away.

32:05 Speaker 3: And just long enough for him to gamble all the

32:08 Speaker 3: money she gave them away.

32:09 Speaker 1: Yes, he asked for money before they left on this trip,

32:13 Speaker 1: which he did not need, and because he did not

32:15 Speaker 1: need to.

32:16 Speaker 2: Go and there, she gave.

32:20 Speaker 1: Him that money and he gambled it all the way

32:22 Speaker 1: because he was upset and he was looking for a

32:25 Speaker 1: reason to go and gamble and piss her off.

32:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. He was sitting at that Crabs table

32:31 Speaker 3: with chips in one hand and the phone and the

32:34 Speaker 3: other just being like, I hate you. Look at how

32:37 Speaker 3: embarrassing you are sending her Venmo requests, but also being like,

32:43 Speaker 3: how dare you? You're ashamed of my family? Can I

32:45 Speaker 3: get another fifty dollars? Okay, I'm broke? Okay, well meet

32:49 Speaker 3: me here otherwise we're divorcing.

32:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, And essentially that's what happened. He left at one thirty,

32:54 Speaker 1: she gets a Ubert.

32:55 Speaker 2: Two real wow, ruined, Like it's so it.

33:02 Speaker 1: Was so crazy, Like I couldn't even focus on Dakota being,

33:07 Speaker 1: you know, a hovering piece of shit, because all he

33:10 Speaker 1: wants Dakota is so upset that Taylor just got divorced,

33:15 Speaker 1: because if she was a little bit younger.

33:19 Speaker 2: And not divorced.

33:20 Speaker 1: Before, and you didn't already know what it felt like

33:22 Speaker 1: to be in a marriage where you don't have like

33:24 Speaker 1: trust and things like that, no matter what your background

33:27 Speaker 1: is or what your religion states, he would have gotten

33:31 Speaker 1: her to marry him by.

33:33 Speaker 3: Now, buddy in his hands.

33:34 Speaker 2: Yep, you're right, and he is so upset that she

33:37 Speaker 2: has a clue.

33:40 Speaker 3: I'm trying to wonder. I'm curious about his background, like

33:43 Speaker 3: has he not been married before, because you know, given

33:47 Speaker 3: the culture, he seems a little old to have not

33:51 Speaker 3: had to ring on it before. Yeah, for what's going

33:54 Speaker 3: on with you.

33:54 Speaker 1: Dakota, Right, And she just also like she just got divorced,

33:58 Speaker 1: it's fresh. He does not want to enter into a

34:02 Speaker 1: marriage that can end up that way again, like she

34:04 Speaker 1: doesn't want to be in that situation, and that's actually

34:07 Speaker 1: quite reasonable.

34:09 Speaker 2: It helps that he is also a piece.

34:12 Speaker 1: Of shit, Yeah, and very controlling as well. Tooks full

34:18 Speaker 1: took full opportunity while she's three months or nine months

34:22 Speaker 1: pregnant in her third trimester and could deliver any day,

34:25 Speaker 1: to take her down to Vegas. As well, which gave

34:29 Speaker 1: Zach the end to go with jen Affleck. And that's

34:32 Speaker 1: not fair because now Taylor can't even have a nice time.

34:36 Speaker 1: What do you think she's gonna get into our pregnant Oh,

34:39 Speaker 1: I want to be there case she goes into labor

34:41 Speaker 1: at any moment, Sir. As quickly as it was able,

34:45 Speaker 1: you were able to go down with her. You were

34:46 Speaker 1: also able to get there. If she had went into labor,

34:49 Speaker 1: it would have been okay, it would.

34:50 Speaker 3: Have been totally fine. And like, we do have to

34:53 Speaker 3: mention that Dakota does have substance of abous issues, so

34:57 Speaker 3: him going to Vegas probably have been.

35:00 Speaker 2: Both of them are triggering crazy.

35:02 Speaker 3: Then him being on sand a lot less reasonable than

35:07 Speaker 3: you waiting in Utah for her. Their relationship is so

35:12 Speaker 3: wild because he is he makes no bones about stressing

35:20 Speaker 3: her the fuck out, even when she's crowning, being like

35:23 Speaker 3: I want this relationship, Why don't you give me things emotionally?

35:26 Speaker 3: And you could just see the light drain out of

35:28 Speaker 3: her eyes the longer.

35:30 Speaker 1: I keep getting confessions that you sleep with people.

35:33 Speaker 2: Yes, it's problematic.

35:37 Speaker 1: If you want me to marry you, I can't trust you.

35:43 Speaker 1: And he keeps asking it, like, why she won't. He's like,

35:46 Speaker 1: I'm committed to all of this and she's like, well,

35:48 Speaker 1: I'm telling you don't be because I don't trust you.

35:52 Speaker 1: I'm not beating around the bush as to why she's

35:55 Speaker 1: doing this, not at all. She's like, hey, guess what

35:57 Speaker 1: got another confession or accusation and that you did some shit?

36:01 Speaker 1: You want to explain your way out of this one?

36:04 Speaker 4: Yeap?

36:05 Speaker 3: And can we talk about her mom?

36:07 Speaker 2: Yo?

36:08 Speaker 3: Wow? Leanne confirmed icon I said that Taylor's like Kristen

36:15 Speaker 3: Dody and Leanne is like Stacy's mom and the dynamic

36:19 Speaker 3: between them is so wild.

36:23 Speaker 1: Yes, because Kristin Doty is actually yeah, tailor is definitely

36:27 Speaker 1: a Christen Doty type, more sober.

36:30 Speaker 2: She's a sober Christian.

36:31 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, just living one one man after the other. Yeah,

36:35 Speaker 3: I end up pregnant. Who cares?

36:37 Speaker 2: We really getting?

36:38 Speaker 1: You know, she's like the Mormon Kristin Doty, Like she

36:40 Speaker 1: just keeps getting, Like Kristin just keeps finding a long

36:43 Speaker 1: term boyfriend to like live in boyfriend and keeps finding

36:47 Speaker 1: somebody to like have a baby with and love and.

36:51 Speaker 3: Mary ones that don't make sense. Who cares? Just back

36:55 Speaker 3: the truck up in the driveway moving. I don't care.

36:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, why not just got out of get a

37:00 Speaker 1: man out of one house? Why not welcome another?

37:02 Speaker 3: Look, I don't care. I don't care.

37:04 Speaker 2: And yeah, No, Leanne is absolutely legendary.

37:07 Speaker 3: She's iconic. She does not care. Like she won't be

37:12 Speaker 3: like sweetie, I don't know. She'll look at her nine

37:16 Speaker 3: months pregnant daughter and be like, you should never have

37:18 Speaker 3: gotten pregnant in the first place.

37:20 Speaker 2: That was past it.

37:23 Speaker 3: It's too late, mom, Like.

37:25 Speaker 2: Come on, hey, but I do have to admit.

37:27 Speaker 1: Twice twice I said, damn, you really hate to see it,

37:33 Speaker 1: like you really hate to see.

37:36 Speaker 2: She's gonna love the shit out of that baby.

37:38 Speaker 1: But let me tell you, she only had that baby

37:40 Speaker 1: because she truly believes that she.

37:42 Speaker 2: Wanted to have that baby.

37:45 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and would love that baby and be a

37:50 Speaker 1: mom like she likes being a mom because there was

37:53 Speaker 1: I could tell he never probably entered the equation for her.

37:58 Speaker 3: No, this is all just part of the chaos that

38:01 Speaker 3: she craves of. Like I had this swinging scandal and

38:05 Speaker 3: then I divorced, and then I'm finding this big eyed

38:08 Speaker 3: weirdo and then like we're falling in love or having

38:12 Speaker 3: sex or whatever, and you know, we have a baby.

38:16 Speaker 3: Then there's a miscarriage, but she's still feeling like, oh,

38:19 Speaker 3: she's still shaky with mom talks. So she's riding high

38:21 Speaker 3: with this again big eyed weirdo. And then they're like, yeah,

38:24 Speaker 3: let's have another baby. And then finally her life starts

38:27 Speaker 3: getting a little bit more stable and she's like, oh, oh, yeah,

38:31 Speaker 3: that I have tethered myself to him.

38:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.

38:34 Speaker 1: I kind of built that stability on a little bit

38:36 Speaker 1: of quicksand there. So and so, the a couple of

38:40 Speaker 1: sinkholes happening, like he's still around because you pulled him around,

38:46 Speaker 1: and now you want to get rid of him, and

38:48 Speaker 1: it looks so bad, so toxic. It does feel like

38:51 Speaker 1: we are Kristin and Tom. I have not seen a

38:55 Speaker 1: relationship mirror Kristin and Tom since like this when they

39:00 Speaker 1: are fighting on the way to the car, they could

39:04 Speaker 1: not get into the car because they were just fighting.

39:07 Speaker 2: Taylor and in.

39:09 Speaker 1: Dakota and literally Zach and Jen have to be like,

39:12 Speaker 1: do you want to finish this conversation on the road

39:14 Speaker 1: because we gotta go right it's a four hour drive

39:18 Speaker 1: that might be traffic.

39:21 Speaker 3: The second half of the season of just those two

39:23 Speaker 3: couples being like, y'all are fucked up, Damn they're crazy.

39:26 Speaker 3: Then they're crazy, then they end up getting in fights

39:29 Speaker 3: because they're actually the crazier couple.

39:31 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's a it's a It's literally like a

39:34 Speaker 1: pissing contest of who can be more toxic and chaotic. Yep,

39:38 Speaker 1: and I don't know who wins. Every episode is something new,

39:42 Speaker 1: it really wins. We won, yeah for real, Like wow,

39:46 Speaker 1: because you know they are fighting all the time, and

39:50 Speaker 1: now she's like, I'm genuinely worried every time that they

39:54 Speaker 1: have a conversation because also maybe it's this is a

39:58 Speaker 1: narcissistic like but all I'm gonna be the straight man thing.

40:01 Speaker 2: They're getting a lot away.

40:02 Speaker 1: With a lot with these pretty girls because these girls

40:07 Speaker 1: like men and have to marry men, and they're they

40:12 Speaker 1: need them to feel that, like to believe that because

40:15 Speaker 1: if you pop up at my Airbnb while I am

40:19 Speaker 1: pregnant and I did not call you here, and you

40:23 Speaker 1: walked through the house.

40:24 Speaker 3: And there's a Labya's only sign on the front door,

40:27 Speaker 3: did you not read? Can you not read?

40:31 Speaker 2: It's on the door?

40:35 Speaker 3: The way Demmy or Jesse I'm not sure, just kept

40:38 Speaker 3: getting more and more upset, and I'm like, I don't

40:41 Speaker 3: want men around. Why don't we get this?

40:45 Speaker 1: It's true because there's nothing worse than being like on

40:49 Speaker 1: a girl's trip or on a trip and that person

40:51 Speaker 1: like that, it's one person that you can't stand is

40:55 Speaker 1: there and doesn't it wasn't gonna be or something like that,

40:58 Speaker 1: and then it up like they probably would not have

41:02 Speaker 1: wanted any men there. Sure, But more than that, they

41:06 Speaker 1: don't like da Kota or is that they know that

41:09 Speaker 1: they're the most control, Like they're really uncomfortable with the

41:12 Speaker 1: fact that they're there, and their husbands are not like

41:14 Speaker 1: what is wrong with you?

41:16 Speaker 3: Right right? Patriarchy?

41:20 Speaker 1: The other men are genuinely like, I don't care have

41:22 Speaker 1: fun by I mean, I'm going to play NBA two

41:26 Speaker 1: K and make sure the baby go to their parents

41:30 Speaker 1: my parents' house.

41:32 Speaker 3: There were points when, you know, like Whitney and Connor

41:35 Speaker 3: were having to do their own little side show that

41:37 Speaker 3: Connor would try to talk sense into Whitney and be like,

41:40 Speaker 3: are you sure that this is the path you really

41:42 Speaker 3: want to go down? And she'd be like, yeah, I do, yeah,

41:46 Speaker 3: And he said I would have talked to Connor. I

41:47 Speaker 3: would have kicked it with Connor.

41:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like are you are you sure about that?

41:51 Speaker 1: And Whitney isn't. She has ideas and I want to

41:58 Speaker 1: say they're like overbait, which for her makes sense.

42:02 Speaker 2: Follow me.

42:03 Speaker 1: I think that if she were to make a cast

42:05 Speaker 1: for all, it would be overbaked, very dry, not good,

42:08 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's too done. It's

42:11 Speaker 1: too overthought and too overdone. It have like either too

42:15 Speaker 1: many seasonings or so many different ingredients and enough seasonings

42:20 Speaker 1: that kind of thing.

42:21 Speaker 2: Unenjoyable.

42:22 Speaker 3: Definitely not enough seasonings. But I like the option that

42:26 Speaker 3: she might put too many.

42:27 Speaker 1: That was nice to fe Well, you know, maybe she

42:29 Speaker 1: likes solid TikTok. You know they do that now and

42:31 Speaker 1: they put everything in their cabinet in there and then

42:33 Speaker 1: you know, God bless the poem people. They she has

42:40 Speaker 1: these ideas and they're so like they're not half baked,

42:44 Speaker 1: they're just ridiculous, so right, like they go so or

42:49 Speaker 1: what does it left?

42:50 Speaker 2: They go so left?

42:51 Speaker 1: That like how you think that's how we got to

42:55 Speaker 1: where Her controversy even starts with one putting a spatula

43:00 Speaker 1: and her husband's ass because he was on Tender while

43:07 Speaker 1: she was pregnant, which he also No one's accusing him

43:13 Speaker 1: of only doing that as a stunt, because having a

43:16 Speaker 1: cheating scandal still a does mean you are heterosexual.

43:23 Speaker 3: For an addiction that only seemed to manifest in sending

43:28 Speaker 3: nudes to people on Tender.

43:31 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So anyways he's doing that, and so she

43:40 Speaker 1: puts a spatula ups. But if I can have you,

43:43 Speaker 1: no one will. Okay, strike and choice number one too.

43:49 Speaker 1: She goes like extra viral in a very controversial way.

43:54 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make light of it because it is.

43:55 Speaker 1: It weirds me out, like it just weirds me out,

43:57 Speaker 1: so I have to make jokes about it. It's how

43:59 Speaker 1: I cope in therapy. It's fine. She makes a video

44:05 Speaker 1: a TikTok of herself dancing with like tears in her eyes,

44:09 Speaker 1: dancing next to her baby who was in the hospital

44:12 Speaker 1: with RSV in like the ICU or something in the

44:18 Speaker 1: tubes are in this baby's nose and we can see them,

44:24 Speaker 1: we can see the baby in the tubes, and she

44:27 Speaker 1: is dropping it like it's hot right there next to

44:33 Speaker 1: the baby's plastic basting at in the hospital.

44:36 Speaker 2: And let me tell you. The people had words. They

44:39 Speaker 2: were not fans.

44:44 Speaker 1: White women said oh bitch, enough, okay, enough of you.

44:50 Speaker 2: I've had it. This goes against everything.

44:55 Speaker 1: The like the mom Talk girls were like, oh my god,

44:58 Speaker 1: cloud Chaser, I was like, wait what, Oh my gosh.

45:02 Speaker 3: The way that it comes out on the show is

45:06 Speaker 3: hilarious because we find out and like the very first

45:10 Speaker 3: few episodes that one of the reasons why Whitney is

45:13 Speaker 3: so upset is because she feels like people rallied around

45:19 Speaker 3: Taylor and her hoeing and showing well her.

45:22 Speaker 1: They forgave Taylor as right, that was her thing that

45:27 Speaker 1: people forgave her, but they did not forgive Whitney, which

45:34 Speaker 1: I'm at a loss for the connections. Yeah, one also

45:40 Speaker 1: brought us a show and a TV deal. Hell yeah,

45:43 Speaker 1: we forgave her. Because if you think that anybody's production

45:48 Speaker 1: company worthy of note that could get to deal with

45:52 Speaker 1: Hulu would want to do a show about the woman

45:56 Speaker 1: who danced next to the RSV, they didn't. They wouldn't,

45:59 Speaker 1: they would not. It would just do the news cycle

46:01 Speaker 1: because people be like, what the fuck anything for cloud

46:04 Speaker 1: S mh They would not give you a show but

46:06 Speaker 1: a soft swinging Mormon mommy community Hello that lives their

46:12 Speaker 1: life on TikTok. But we didn't know this existed. But

46:14 Speaker 1: there are screenshots. Man, there's us only fans bitch or

46:20 Speaker 1: picking up the cameras, like, yes, they forgave her.

46:24 Speaker 2: And I think that Witny is missing that. I really

46:27 Speaker 2: do think she is.

46:28 Speaker 1: She's missing a lot of things because that would strike too,

46:31 Speaker 1: and my biggest strike, which I'm glad they put late

46:33 Speaker 1: because if they did it in the first I too

46:35 Speaker 1: would have turned it off. So I'm gonna trigger one

46:37 Speaker 1: of people who just have a really big trigger with.

46:39 Speaker 2: Germs and nasty things. Ugh, nasty things like I had.

46:44 Speaker 1: I can't tell my mama to watch it because if

46:46 Speaker 1: she sees that she will never recover, she will scream.

46:49 Speaker 1: She has germophobe situation. She screams a lot when she

46:54 Speaker 1: doesn't like the hygiene of something or the cleanliness of something.

46:58 Speaker 2: Screams at it.

47:00 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about like yelling or going like

47:03 Speaker 1: Gordon Ramsay, she goes oh, but she just screams.

47:07 Speaker 2: So I'm a mad character.

47:10 Speaker 1: So like if she saw them serve a birthday cake

47:14 Speaker 1: at a family dinner, which my mom would love to do,

47:17 Speaker 1: that's like her her thing. She loves family dinner, she

47:20 Speaker 1: loves a birthday cake. And if she cut into that

47:23 Speaker 1: cake and there was one a pregnancy test in it,

47:27 Speaker 1: she would automatically deem it unsanitary because she would Ninka

47:30 Speaker 1: came out of the box, and that would.

47:32 Speaker 2: Be unsanitary to her.

47:33 Speaker 1: She now come to reveal that your pregnancy test in

47:39 Speaker 1: it is one hundred and you're proud of it.

47:43 Speaker 2: The stick you peed upon.

47:46 Speaker 4: Mmm.

47:48 Speaker 3: And it was the fact that the teenage sister had

47:52 Speaker 3: to break it down for her.

47:54 Speaker 1: Yes, she said, well the cap is on it, Whitney,

47:57 Speaker 1: my love, I need you, I need you to come

48:01 Speaker 1: sit down, Come sit down, Like I immediately thought, well there

48:06 Speaker 1: goes a good cake. What was that like three hundred dollars?

48:09 Speaker 1: They had real fun advice.

48:14 Speaker 3: Hmm. And and her mama was licking her fingers holding

48:17 Speaker 3: the pregnancy text text test licking her fingers while her

48:20 Speaker 3: sister was y'all.

48:23 Speaker 1: Why don't you just do it like King Cake style

48:25 Speaker 1: and put like a little baby in it?

48:27 Speaker 3: What a little baby if they.

48:29 Speaker 2: Sell the little babies at the at the at the

48:32 Speaker 2: king Cake stores.

48:34 Speaker 3: And also like what I don't know, like technology, but

48:36 Speaker 3: like I don't know, what if the inner parts of

48:38 Speaker 3: that pregnancy test are melting, Like what about the p

48:42 Speaker 3: what about the melting plastic? It's a lot going on

48:44 Speaker 3: in there.

48:45 Speaker 2: I it's a terrible idea.

48:47 Speaker 3: And the cakes looked so good and I was so upset.

48:51 Speaker 1: I was impressibly being the cake and they're gonna do

48:55 Speaker 1: a gender reveal as she pregnant. I don't understand. What

48:58 Speaker 1: could they put in the cake at ring and she

48:59 Speaker 1: not Mary, what is it? And to find out that

49:02 Speaker 1: it was a pregnancy stick and I was like, oh, well,

49:05 Speaker 1: that ruins it. And then to find out she peed

49:07 Speaker 1: upon it that I didn't even consider it because that

49:11 Speaker 1: was so far fetched to me. I was like, you

49:14 Speaker 1: could have literally just put a fresh one in there

49:16 Speaker 1: and people would have still been like, are you pregnant?

49:19 Speaker 2: And you would have still had to say, yes, I am.

49:22 Speaker 3: The exchange would have gone the exact same.

49:24 Speaker 1: One, exactly the same. You did not have to use

49:27 Speaker 1: that exact same stick they come to in the case

49:30 Speaker 1: sometimes three.

49:31 Speaker 3: And here's what really gagby is that she was like,

49:34 Speaker 3: you know, and this is gonna be my last child,

49:38 Speaker 3: and everybody was like okay, and she's looking at them

49:40 Speaker 3: like she just broke them down with like the worst

49:44 Speaker 3: possible news, like, oh no, Whitney, give us another baby.

49:49 Speaker 2: Children with the husband with a different hair plug.

49:53 Speaker 3: Oh how hard breaking.

49:56 Speaker 1: But he has really nice bangs today. What if you

49:58 Speaker 1: feel the heat and you just like want to make

50:00 Speaker 1: another one?

50:01 Speaker 3: Please have another baby, Whitney, Please?

50:04 Speaker 1: Yes that whatever show that man do now to prove

50:07 Speaker 1: that he is straight, because let me tell you something,

50:13 Speaker 1: having three kids won't do it anymore. Look at bron

50:15 Speaker 1: Win's seven hello, like bring a ding ding?

50:20 Speaker 2: Three is not enough. We're still looking at you a

50:24 Speaker 2: little bit crooked conor wo I have never I mean?

50:30 Speaker 1: And then the gag is Winny doesn't go to any

50:33 Speaker 1: of the events all year, the baby shower for Taylor.

50:37 Speaker 2: Taylor genuinely did not know that they were not friends.

50:39 Speaker 1: She was like, I had no idea you hated me,

50:43 Speaker 1: And She's like, you would you have told me because

50:45 Speaker 1: I could have done something.

50:46 Speaker 2: We could have talked about it, like she wanted a friendship.

50:49 Speaker 1: I actually felt really bad for Taylor, and Whitney can't

50:52 Speaker 1: even admit that the only reason she hates Taylor is

50:54 Speaker 1: because everyone rallied around her. Aka, you got a TV show,

50:58 Speaker 1: you got the world to pay attention, and but Taylor.

51:01 Speaker 1: People roasted Taylor for out and out all her friends

51:04 Speaker 1: and everything, like we're any because of the mess and

51:08 Speaker 1: how people felt about her, but like they still felt

51:11 Speaker 1: that way about her.

51:12 Speaker 2: We're just here in spite of that.

51:14 Speaker 3: Right, And Taylor brought up a great point of Whitney,

51:17 Speaker 3: if you're so upset about this fallout and how it

51:21 Speaker 3: looked to you, can we go to your TikTok and

51:24 Speaker 3: see how many videos there are of you mentioning wink wink.

51:28 Speaker 3: Maybe I was in mom Talk, maybe I was swinging.

51:31 Speaker 3: Why are you capitalizing off this if it was such

51:33 Speaker 3: a problem.

51:36 Speaker 1: Right, and you moved to Hawaii and now you're.

51:37 Speaker 3: Back, and then now suddenly you're back.

51:40 Speaker 2: Suddenly I wonder why.

51:42 Speaker 1: But it's just giving you that you don't like the

51:46 Speaker 1: fact that it used to be ambiguous as who was

51:49 Speaker 1: like the leader or the head bitch in charge of

51:51 Speaker 1: mom Talk and the girlies. What if they had, if

51:55 Speaker 1: they had a democracy of the people, it was gonna

51:57 Speaker 1: give Taylor.

51:59 Speaker 3: Somebody brought up the great point that Whitney is a

52:03 Speaker 3: lot like Vicky Gunbolson.

52:05 Speaker 2: Oh my god, wow.

52:07 Speaker 3: Yet they were like like mean girl adjacent, like not

52:11 Speaker 3: cool enough to be in, but she clearly would get

52:16 Speaker 3: some sort of attention from being mean from those cool girls,

52:21 Speaker 3: and maybe she didn't interpret it necessarily as like how

52:26 Speaker 3: she should have, like it wasn't necessarily good attention, Like yeah,

52:29 Speaker 3: maybe they're laughing, but they're not necessarily laughing with you.

52:33 Speaker 3: But now you've just programmed yourself to just be mean

52:36 Speaker 3: because you think that that's what is going to get

52:38 Speaker 3: you that positive reinforcement, and it's not working when you're thirty.

52:44 Speaker 2: No it's not.

52:45 Speaker 1: But also I thought you were going to say that

52:47 Speaker 1: she's giving Vicky Gumbleson vibes in that Vicky can't move

52:52 Speaker 1: on because she is like I created this, like this

52:55 Speaker 1: is you have to do it with me, and she's

52:58 Speaker 1: mad when anyone tries to be thrown her when it's like,

53:02 Speaker 1: no one's trying to do throne. There is no such thing.

53:04 Speaker 1: This throne is in your head, your insecurity is in

53:07 Speaker 1: your head.

53:08 Speaker 3: Right all to be the queen bee. But we don't

53:13 Speaker 3: have to do that, like like.

53:15 Speaker 2: What do you mean?

53:16 Speaker 1: And now they're like, oh, it doesn't want to be Taylor,

53:18 Speaker 1: so now and now it's none of you this because

53:20 Speaker 1: Taylor never wanted it, so you hate her for no reason.

53:24 Speaker 1: It was like, do you not see my life right now?

53:26 Speaker 1: I am freshly divorced. I got this in my house,

53:29 Speaker 1: this man in my house that I don't want.

53:32 Speaker 2: I'm having this baby.

53:34 Speaker 1: He wants the baby, but he also wants me with it,

53:37 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to tell him no, no, we can

53:39 Speaker 1: have baby and no me and you, and he doesn't

53:42 Speaker 1: get it. And there's a new girl coming out that

53:44 Speaker 1: slept with him every day. You think I got time

53:47 Speaker 1: to coordinate dances and which blu set we're wearing on Tuesday?

53:52 Speaker 3: I got a lot going on.

53:53 Speaker 2: I got a lot going on.

53:55 Speaker 1: Girl called a blowing up my phone popping up at

53:58 Speaker 1: air and Airbnb's I'm three, I'm nine months pregnant.

54:02 Speaker 2: It's too much. And then you want me to do

54:04 Speaker 2: of a mom top, No, ma'am.

54:06 Speaker 1: And so now it's not Whitney because she keep on

54:08 Speaker 1: following herself. She did all of this four attention, and

54:11 Speaker 1: little did she know if she had just suck it

54:13 Speaker 1: out and tried not to make everything about her by

54:16 Speaker 1: not coming to things, by on following people, by making

54:20 Speaker 1: these big grand gestures of attention and pick me behavior

54:24 Speaker 1: she would have been like rightfully, like at the top,

54:27 Speaker 1: she would have been fine.

54:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, And she ended up just proving everybody's point, Like

54:33 Speaker 3: everybody her in the beginning, you basically just use people

54:38 Speaker 3: for your own selfish advantages and then when you don't

54:41 Speaker 3: need them, you let them go, which is what she

54:43 Speaker 3: did to Macy, who was the only girl who was

54:46 Speaker 3: nice to her, and like trying to build bridges between

54:49 Speaker 3: Whitney and everybody else and maintain a friendship with Whitney.

54:53 Speaker 3: And what happened all of a sudden, you're not going

54:55 Speaker 3: up to my birthday party, but.

54:56 Speaker 2: Your actual birthday what.

55:01 Speaker 3: Like, you show up to somebody else's No, No, it

55:04 Speaker 3: wasn't her birthday party, her her baby mom or her

55:07 Speaker 3: brand launch.

55:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, her brand launch.

55:09 Speaker 1: That was really sad because that was special, that was

55:12 Speaker 1: important to her. That's her launching something. That's like the friend.

55:16 Speaker 1: That's what you do as a friend. You don't just

55:18 Speaker 1: do ketamine and spell people's secrets. You go to their

55:20 Speaker 1: brand launches because she has a business and she's a businesswoman, right,

55:25 Speaker 1: but but your friend, that's a homegirl.

55:27 Speaker 3: But you can show up to Mikayla's birthday party when

55:30 Speaker 3: you were not invited, and you know nobody wants to

55:33 Speaker 3: see you at this point and act like.

55:37 Speaker 1: You know they're mad because you didn't go to her opening, right,

55:44 Speaker 1: They're like, wait, what why wouldn't she come and do that?

55:47 Speaker 1: Like you won't following everybody? What temper tantrum are you throwing?

55:51 Speaker 1: What did we do to you? That's why no one's

55:54 Speaker 1: calling you. They're thinking you just need space or something,

55:57 Speaker 1: because they're like, obviously she's not in a good place

55:59 Speaker 1: cause we haven't done a goddamn thing.

56:02 Speaker 2: She just keeps.

56:03 Speaker 1: Reacting, right, You just keep getting notifications that Whitney has

56:07 Speaker 1: left us again, like what is this? She had followed

56:13 Speaker 1: everyone but one but Macie. I think you don't go

56:16 Speaker 1: to her thing, so you just keep being absent so

56:18 Speaker 1: they have something to talk about. But like, also, she's

56:21 Speaker 1: lying because she didn't go to Taylor's baby shower, and

56:25 Speaker 1: they literally came to her house and filmed and talked

56:27 Speaker 1: about why she didn't go, right, they came and checked

56:30 Speaker 1: on her, yep, and that didn't render any benefits. She

56:34 Speaker 1: still stopped coming to things, and then you one followed everybody,

56:37 Speaker 1: including the people who came and checked on you.

56:39 Speaker 3: So you went to Costco got a big ass bag

56:44 Speaker 3: of off brand fruity pebbles to talk about somebod these

56:47 Speaker 3: pussy on camera. But you don't know why people don't

56:50 Speaker 3: really care to call you and chase after you.

56:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, fruity pebbles, man, that's wow. You know what reminded

56:59 Speaker 1: me of?

57:00 Speaker 2: I don't.

57:00 Speaker 1: This is like the only sports reference that I can make,

57:03 Speaker 1: and my wife is going to be so proud me

57:04 Speaker 1: for making a basketball one. Even I don't know who

57:07 Speaker 1: any of these people are, but there was once upon

57:09 Speaker 1: a time where somebody on a basketball team made a

57:13 Speaker 1: comment on to Carmelo Anthony on another basketball team about

57:18 Speaker 1: how his wife Lalla Anthony tasted like cheerios on the court.

57:25 Speaker 3: Oh my god.

57:26 Speaker 1: And then like a nice little fighty fight broke out,

57:28 Speaker 1: and I was remember it being all over and I

57:32 Speaker 1: was like.

57:32 Speaker 2: Oh that you mentioned it. I was like, oh, my goodness.

57:39 Speaker 1: But that's what it reminded me of, because and if

57:42 Speaker 1: you asked me where I went today, I could not

57:44 Speaker 1: tell you a running list of all the errands that

57:46 Speaker 1: I've run.

57:47 Speaker 2: But that from about ten years ago.

57:49 Speaker 1: Never forget because on the court in my workplace, that's crazy.

57:54 Speaker 2: How dare you.

57:57 Speaker 1: That's crazy about my wife. You're mean, But no, Whitney,

58:02 Speaker 1: you're a terrible girl.

58:03 Speaker 2: You just are. I'm sorry, You're not a girl's girl.

58:05 Speaker 1: It's not giving I ooh, the real villain. I know

58:10 Speaker 1: it's eating her up, Like I know that the production

58:14 Speaker 1: cameras are eating her up. So I want her to

58:17 Speaker 1: be a little careful with asking for them cameras to

58:20 Speaker 1: lift up a little bit earlier because she's I think

58:26 Speaker 1: her strategy would just be to get on the better

58:29 Speaker 1: side of the public. I think she will analyze herself.

58:33 Speaker 1: The narcissism will kick in, and she will identify all

58:38 Speaker 1: the things that she did wrong in the eyes of

58:40 Speaker 1: the people based on the feedback that she's gonna get,

58:43 Speaker 1: and she's going to perform differently.

58:46 Speaker 2: I think she's gonna be reaching out the Taylor very.

58:49 Speaker 3: Like I was going through a tough time and now

58:51 Speaker 3: I'm like ready.

58:52 Speaker 1: To get that's the tough time, sis.

58:56 Speaker 3: That's another Whitney, another healing journey.

58:59 Speaker 1: I'm sure, like, what is the tough time that Taylor

59:02 Speaker 1: wasn't going to? Taylor came to every event and the

59:05 Speaker 1: girl is pregnant.

59:09 Speaker 3: We can see it checking Connor's hair to make sure

59:12 Speaker 3: that the you know, little little grains weren't falling out.

59:17 Speaker 2: Like I cannot, I don't even understand. Listen.

59:23 Speaker 1: It was probably one of the best binges that I've

59:25 Speaker 1: done in a really long time. And I know some

59:28 Speaker 1: pretty excellent binges lately, a lot of docuseries, a lot

59:32 Speaker 1: of true crime. Uh. We'll get into that at the

59:36 Speaker 1: portion of the show of what we're what else we're watching,

59:39 Speaker 1: But this was a.

59:40 Speaker 2: Nice production Hulu.

59:43 Speaker 1: I even venture to say, if this does not if

59:46 Speaker 1: we have not convinced you yet to watch, if you

59:47 Speaker 1: have not watched yet, and I'll be doing an episode

59:50 Speaker 1: by episode uh situation next week, probably for a little

59:55 Speaker 1: bit for the Patreon and stuff, if you want to

59:58 Speaker 1: get into that, and really are and because I have

1:00:01 Speaker 1: to do another rewatch, I just have to. But this

1:00:05 Speaker 1: was what I wanted SLC to be, and I think

1:00:08 Speaker 1: this is better.

1:00:11 Speaker 3: I don't disagree. But I also feel like there are

1:00:14 Speaker 3: a lot of people who are like, oh, bring Whitney

1:00:16 Speaker 3: over to this show, bring Monica over to the show,

1:00:20 Speaker 3: and I think we can just like allow them to

1:00:23 Speaker 3: be two different things.

1:00:25 Speaker 2: Yes, both of that, absolutely.

1:00:27 Speaker 1: I think what I mean is that like this is

1:00:29 Speaker 1: scratching the itch that I thought SLC would scratch.

1:00:32 Speaker 2: Get it.

1:00:33 Speaker 1: They have only loosely touched on the Mormon thing. We've

1:00:36 Speaker 1: only gotten it from Heather's perspective and her from her

1:00:38 Speaker 1: being a bad Mormon. And Lisa Barlowe, who's like wants

1:00:42 Speaker 1: us to believe she doesn't drink, Like.

1:00:44 Speaker 2: But aequila company.

1:00:46 Speaker 1: If you owned a tequila company and didn't drink tequila,

1:00:51 Speaker 1: we would know by the.

1:00:53 Speaker 2: Way it tasted.

1:00:54 Speaker 1: Hello, Okay, But it's also not a production right now,

1:00:57 Speaker 1: some member she doesn't drink.

1:00:58 Speaker 2: I don't know.

1:01:00 Speaker 1: Allegedly, but I think I just wanted that TLC Deep

1:01:05 Speaker 1: Dive a little bit like that that actual Docuseriies Lens,

1:01:12 Speaker 1: with the drama of a Housewives production and the high

1:01:16 Speaker 1: quality of like Bravo producing it.

1:01:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think these women thrived without Bravo because then

1:01:25 Speaker 3: they weren't They weren't gonna be like, oh, I'm on Bravo,

1:01:27 Speaker 3: Like you gotta make a name for yourself on Hulu.

1:01:30 Speaker 3: When they did, they absolutely did.

1:01:31 Speaker 2: They absolutely did.

1:01:32 Speaker 1: They did their big one, And I think that's what

1:01:34 Speaker 1: I really wanted to see, Like Hulu has the production

1:01:38 Speaker 1: value that Bravo would have had. You know those embassy

1:01:40 Speaker 1: that NBC money who has that they gave them, that

1:01:42 Speaker 1: they give them.

1:01:43 Speaker 2: A full, good production budget.

1:01:45 Speaker 1: Like we weren't disappointed by where they were staying or

1:01:47 Speaker 1: what they were doing or the trips they went on.

1:01:49 Speaker 2: It all made sense. It was fine.

1:01:52 Speaker 1: But also the drama was high level. But also we're

1:01:56 Speaker 1: getting background into like the rules of the Mormon Church

1:01:59 Speaker 1: because some of the the were actually practicing still and

1:02:02 Speaker 1: not pretending to or are converts, like they're like, no, girl,

1:02:05 Speaker 1: we easily breathe this, like when Jen had a whole

1:02:08 Speaker 1: freak out because she didn't have her garments and like

1:02:11 Speaker 1: I didn't even realize or think about her husband is

1:02:15 Speaker 1: probably she's like probably scared of her husband's reaction.

1:02:18 Speaker 3: And the baby blessing that they had, and how she

1:02:21 Speaker 3: had to basically disinvite all half of the cast because

1:02:25 Speaker 3: they weren't good enough for Zach and his brand of Mormonism.

1:02:29 Speaker 2: That's crazy.

1:02:31 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, it's so crazy.

1:02:33 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was a really good binge. I think

1:02:36 Speaker 1: that Hulu did an excellent job. I know they're already

1:02:39 Speaker 1: sitting on season two because they already have the breast

1:02:43 Speaker 1: of the be roll because they really left on a cliffhanger,

1:02:46 Speaker 1: and I think that was on purpose and I'm totally

1:02:48 Speaker 1: fine with that as long as you don't take too long, please, hulare.

1:02:54 Speaker 2: I can't do that.

1:02:55 Speaker 1: I think that's what I feel. Like, what's your you know,

1:02:58 Speaker 1: your boomer complaint. It's like, why are y'all taking a

1:03:01 Speaker 1: year for eight episodes?

1:03:02 Speaker 2: I need to know.

1:03:03 Speaker 3: We're gonna need them back Q two.

1:03:08 Speaker 1: Like, for real, I need them to get it together

1:03:11 Speaker 1: because you immediately, I need to know how this went.

1:03:16 Speaker 1: I need to know after the nice little phone call happens.

1:03:21 Speaker 1: I mean, we already know Dakota guilty, but like, I

1:03:23 Speaker 1: really want to hear it.

1:03:25 Speaker 3: Yeah we oham girl, Yeah, we need to hear from

1:03:29 Speaker 3: Jenna what happened?

1:03:30 Speaker 1: You need to hear from Jenna, Like and honestly, I

1:03:34 Speaker 1: can't wait to redo this again. I'm gonna watch this

1:03:36 Speaker 1: entire show over this weekend. I'm gonna probably do a

1:03:40 Speaker 1: talk more episode by episode about it or in chunks

1:03:43 Speaker 1: and some updates on where everyone is now. I got

1:03:46 Speaker 1: to do a lot of like some deep dive ADHD homework,

1:03:49 Speaker 1: but I'm so ready. I remember really loving and being

1:03:52 Speaker 1: thrilled by this community of people that have absolutely nothing

1:03:57 Speaker 1: to do with me, Like couldn't be more opposing in

1:04:01 Speaker 1: anything in any other way from every angle, But man,

1:04:07 Speaker 1: am I hooked?

1:04:08 Speaker 2: Like Oh it's so good.

1:04:11 Speaker 1: I had a very nice time, and I had an

1:04:13 Speaker 1: even nicer time talking with you, Kara.

1:04:14 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being here. This was so much.

1:04:17 Speaker 3: Fun, and thank you for having me.

1:04:19 Speaker 2: This was a dream. Oh my god.

1:04:21 Speaker 1: I just to be able to get it because I

1:04:22 Speaker 1: have been trying to talk about this show all week

1:04:24 Speaker 1: and I keep pushing people and they don't understand that,

1:04:28 Speaker 1: like time is of the essence, like it's not, but

1:04:32 Speaker 1: like why haven't you finished? How can you not move

1:04:34 Speaker 1: on to the next one? Like every episode my jaw

1:04:37 Speaker 1: dropped more? And don't you want that for yourself?

1:04:42 Speaker 3: We should all want that for ourselves. And if you

1:04:44 Speaker 3: don't look in the.

1:04:46 Speaker 1: Mirror, yes exactly, Kara. Please tell everyone where they can

1:04:50 Speaker 1: find you listen to you. You did a killer deep

1:04:52 Speaker 1: dive in conversation about it as well, and you talk

1:04:56 Speaker 1: about absolutely everything that I don't have the bandwidth too.

1:04:59 Speaker 2: But why all of it's very confusing how that works

1:05:02 Speaker 2: in my brain?

1:05:03 Speaker 1: Where can they find you, listen to you and get

1:05:06 Speaker 1: more of all that good stuff.

1:05:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, my podcast is called Everyone's Business But Mine. You

1:05:10 Speaker 3: can listen to that everywhere you listen to podcasts. Give

1:05:13 Speaker 3: me a follow on Instagram at Everyone's Business but Mine

1:05:17 Speaker 3: currently or you know, actually, in the upcoming future, we

1:05:21 Speaker 3: will be talking sister wives. Real Housewives of Salt Lake City,

1:05:26 Speaker 3: Welcome to plotfill rel Housewives of Orange County, Pop Culture,

1:05:30 Speaker 3: deep Dives. I don't know how I'm gonna do this,

1:05:32 Speaker 3: but I'll figure it out.

1:05:33 Speaker 1: Oh my god, exactly, Like Kara does all the work

1:05:36 Speaker 1: and the heavy liftings so you don't have to, or

1:05:39 Speaker 1: she like makes you want to. I have to listen

1:05:42 Speaker 1: sometimes with certain seasons especially of well Palm people shows, occasions,

1:05:52 Speaker 1: different shows that I'm not super familiar with. I want

1:05:56 Speaker 1: to I want to study and learn more, and I

1:05:58 Speaker 1: have to run it through like three different podcasts before

1:06:00 Speaker 1: I know it's credible. And you are in that lineup,

1:06:03 Speaker 1: like if you're talking about it and telling me the things,

1:06:05 Speaker 1: and I'm like okay, and I get real understanding of

1:06:09 Speaker 1: whether or not I just need to be only a

1:06:11 Speaker 1: little bit interested in this to listen to you talk

1:06:13 Speaker 1: about it and like I'll do it's fine, Or if

1:06:17 Speaker 1: I'm like, girl, I.

1:06:18 Speaker 2: Need to go watch this. What at least this episode.

1:06:20 Speaker 1: What are they talking about over in the platmill like

1:06:24 Speaker 1: cover that?

1:06:25 Speaker 2: It's so good.

1:06:26 Speaker 3: I'm a white mess whisperer, I will.

1:06:28 Speaker 1: Say that, and I think that's fantastic because I'm a

1:06:31 Speaker 1: white watcher like hooked.

1:06:35 Speaker 3: So thanks so much again for having me.

1:06:37 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here. Thank you guys

1:06:39 Speaker 1: for listening. You can find me on all the things

1:06:42 Speaker 1: at the Mix with Moni if you're listening to this

1:06:45 Speaker 1: on whatever podcasts platform you like, the Mix with Money,

1:06:49 Speaker 1: but also on Instagram still mixing with Moni and my

1:06:53 Speaker 1: x I g w I, T H M A n I.

1:06:57 Speaker 1: And like I said, I will be covering more Wives

1:07:00 Speaker 1: of Mormon lives episode by episode kind of thing or

1:07:04 Speaker 1: in chunks, but also doing some back to Bravo things

1:07:09 Speaker 1: oh see and talking the trailers and all that.

1:07:12 Speaker 2: But this just we needed to talk about this.

1:07:14 Speaker 1: I needed to get this out there because this was

1:07:16 Speaker 1: a moment in pop culture that I can't not talk about.

1:07:20 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Kara, before I let you go, did

1:07:24 Speaker 1: you watch the VMAs?

1:07:26 Speaker 3: I will listen. I had it.

1:07:28 Speaker 1: On Yes, you did on mute like I did on

1:07:31 Speaker 1: Tuesday with that other performance that happened.

1:07:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I had it on. It was mostly on mute,

1:07:42 Speaker 3: but I did. I did keep up. I saw things.

1:07:46 Speaker 1: You saw things, Okay, it was curious if how you

1:07:49 Speaker 1: felt about Megan as a host.

1:07:51 Speaker 3: I think she's adorable.

1:07:53 Speaker 2: She is adorable.

1:07:54 Speaker 3: I you know, like you can only do so much

1:07:57 Speaker 3: with the writing.

1:07:59 Speaker 1: You know that, Yes, okay, yeah, fair you guys take

1:08:05 Speaker 1: care of yourselves. I'll be talking more about the things

1:08:07 Speaker 1: next week. Thank you for listening. Love you, Bye.