Field Dispatch
249. Alternate Timelines: Summer House Reunion Talk w/ Mark (The Pink Pop Box)
Field Notes
ITS TIIIIIMMMEEEE!!!! Long awaited end to a season of betrayal, scandal, shock and dismay.
We may have just begun for the Summer House reunion but there was so much there to dissect, yap about, and debunk. Mark (@thepinkpopbox) joins Mani to break down the epic reads, the lies, the F yous and the body language. Plus, KJ's bravery, Bailey's call out, and Carl's maturity. All things Summer House reunion part 1.
That and so much more in The Mix in the Box!
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Speaker 1: Sounds struggure.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologists out there. It
Speaker 2: is your girl Moni and you are back in the
Speaker 2: mix with Mani, the show that is going to talk
Speaker 2: about what literally everybody's group chat is talking about right
Speaker 2: the hell now, especially this week, we couldn't stop talking
Speaker 2: about it, so naturally, this week's Mix in the Box
Speaker 2: is brought to you by me Many Mark, who is
Speaker 2: here from the Pink Pop Box and the great, the
Speaker 2: glorious Reads of Sierra the shame of some other folks. Okay,
Speaker 2: so let's dive in. Mark, how are you doing? Thank
Speaker 2: you for being here today. These important things, Yeah, these
Speaker 2: are this is an important time. I will always know
Speaker 2: where I was when I watched this re It was.
Speaker 2: It absolutely lived up to the fact that the hype
Speaker 2: of you people getting wings and Margarita's and stuff with
Speaker 2: your girly pops at the at the function or going
Speaker 2: to the AMC and getting a.
Speaker 1: Theater for sure.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, the Reads eight alone, like we had
Speaker 2: a great time from start to finish. Theater theater right,
Speaker 2: it was. It was masterpiece. It was literally masterpiece theater.
Speaker 2: We have like opening up, we don't even just start
Speaker 2: at the reunion like normal. It's like, let's start up
Speaker 2: where we were finding things out, confessionals. Let's start with
Speaker 2: Kyle and and Lindsey and then a five seventeen way
Speaker 2: two phone bumped up to each other. You know you're
Speaker 2: in crisis when you got one person on one phone,
Speaker 2: three people on the other phone, and you will hold
Speaker 2: both phones together and go ahead and be like, go
Speaker 2: we got what in the hill suck? What's happening?
Speaker 3: Feeling that they all were suspecting but it wasn't confirmed
Speaker 3: and it was just the bomb drop.
Speaker 1: They were all dready.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no kidding, it really was. It was a little
Speaker 2: bit further than what I think they were even anticipating
Speaker 2: of things that they were speculating or something they did
Speaker 2: not anticipate quite a I love that we started with,
Speaker 2: you know, establishing the shock value and everybody and all
Speaker 2: of the things and how many people got dragged into
Speaker 2: this right, And then we got Lindsay asking the age
Speaker 2: old question like when did it start? Because everybody knew
Speaker 2: we were here for the goddamn timeline spoiler alert, which
Speaker 2: I can't imagine you're listening to this if you hadn't
Speaker 2: already seen it. I waited for a reason. I know
Speaker 2: y'all have already listened to probably some other people talk
Speaker 2: about it. But spoiler alert that Tom Mom was bullshit.
Speaker 1: And it didn't really be honest bullshit.
Speaker 3: Girl.
Speaker 2: I was sitting here, I said, girl, like forty times.
Speaker 2: I think I wrote it down like seven times. I'm hoping, like.
Speaker 1: I have bs BSS.
Speaker 2: I start up bullet pointing the bullshit I did. I
Speaker 2: started bullet pointing the bullshit. I was like, they lie here,
Speaker 2: say February makes no sense, like they say. She's like, oh,
Speaker 2: not that night, which also leads me to believe that
Speaker 2: it was that night. At the very least, you were like,
Speaker 2: we can do it guilt free that night. But no,
Speaker 2: she that we waited until out of this statement. You
Speaker 2: wouldn't release a statement. You wouldn't have release the statement.
Speaker 2: Then you don't blow up your life over something unless
Speaker 2: you've had sex. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Well, let's just well, let's just point out the obvious
Speaker 3: and just get right to the worst part of what
Speaker 3: they didn't leave in from the leaked audio. The reason
Speaker 3: that they even posted that and the first place was
Speaker 3: because there's a video allegedly of the both of them,
Speaker 3: and that is the reason they released the statement because
Speaker 3: they didn't want to get blackmailed for it, so they
Speaker 3: I had no choice but to come forward because Lindsey
Speaker 3: Hubbard said in that leaked audio you got smoked out, Yeah,
Speaker 3: because where was that?
Speaker 1: Where was that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And I believe that one hundred percent because we
Speaker 2: saw Sierra give so much of a timeline. You were asked,
Speaker 2: you were both approached, and it's like, I actually in
Speaker 2: February you you were all watched What Happens Live and
Speaker 2: you said, oh no, we were holding hand because she's
Speaker 2: really close to me. You gas like people don't gas
Speaker 2: like me.
Speaker 3: Lifriend staying with you because that's how he got the
Speaker 3: horse hair tie.
Speaker 2: That was crazy. What a reveal, Like, what a piece
Speaker 2: of shit you have to be that this lady, this
Speaker 2: girl is nick girl. Previous girlfriend is staying with you
Speaker 2: the night before brings you the tie. You shot out
Speaker 2: the tie on watch What Happens Live, and you got
Speaker 2: a whole girlfriend situation. I want to know your thoughts, everybody.
Speaker 2: He's broken down, of course all the big major parts,
Speaker 2: and we'll hit on those two, but let's I want
Speaker 2: to dive in a little deeper. I want to know
Speaker 2: your thoughts on whether or not. Well, let's start with
Speaker 2: the apology, because any wanted to start with that apology.
Speaker 2: Karl made a great analogy that was like saying happy
Speaker 2: birthday and not say you too, like Tuda Ether, happy
Speaker 2: birthday to whoever is getting older, Happy birthday to some
Speaker 2: of you out there. Like that's really what it was.
Speaker 2: And people were very confused, and she was a boy.
Speaker 2: It was like, damned if we do. Damned if you don't. No,
Speaker 2: damned if you don't do do because otherwise what do
Speaker 2: you need to apologize for? Like what do you need
Speaker 2: to make a statement for? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: It was it was the they're like two little children,
Speaker 3: two teenagers that got caught and they don't know what
Speaker 3: absolutely got caught.
Speaker 2: And I love that Wes said his nudes were hacked
Speaker 2: in his phone or whatever was hacked right before they
Speaker 2: started relying. I thought I heard the play. I don't
Speaker 2: believe that for a second. I really don't. I believe
Speaker 2: that that was a humiliation play to take a little
Speaker 2: bit of heat off of the situation and have to
Speaker 2: maybe answer for that or something instead, or that takes.
Speaker 3: A little bit of time been out there, this pictures
Speaker 3: have been out.
Speaker 2: There and you have not been hacked.
Speaker 1: You were not hacked, you liar, And uh.
Speaker 2: You're like, I'm just that word that uh am am
Speaker 2: I am, I am I soft in my heart And
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, what bullshit.
Speaker 3: What I've seen the offending pictures. It's not so spotcial.
Speaker 2: It's not looking like you blow up your life, your relationships,
Speaker 2: your brand, deals, your friendships, the cast of the house,
Speaker 2: a group chat, all the good things in your life
Speaker 2: for this, and I think that it goes without saying.
Speaker 2: You know, Andy strategically asked each person how they were
Speaker 2: feeling or how they were doing in a very particular order.
Speaker 2: He asked Sierra first how she was doing, then Kyle,
Speaker 2: and then he said and that brings me to Amanda.
Speaker 2: And she was like, and I'm ready to stay my piece.
Speaker 2: And you know, basically she wanted to say and put
Speaker 2: it behind me and I'm ready to take accountability for
Speaker 2: you know what it is that I've done and apologize
Speaker 2: to Kyle and and and Sierra and she was like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's nice to be mentioned this time. And you know
Speaker 2: that bitch had the audacity to roll them them them
Speaker 2: or what do they call them? Them as roll both
Speaker 2: of those oh hosts. Niska like, she was like, can
Speaker 2: you believe she's being rude to me right now? Yet?
Speaker 1: Like the privileged white girl you are.
Speaker 2: Oh, you thought this was gonna be easy. You thought
Speaker 2: we're not gonna have a fun time. You were just
Speaker 2: gonna be like, I'm sorry that I hurt you, or
Speaker 2: if I hurt you, No, bitch, she's diabolical. This was
Speaker 2: this ship was diabolical them. Okay, let's let's present because
Speaker 2: they we know there's ain't shit. We know there's ain't shit,
Speaker 2: you know, Andy, I like how you asked Sierra first,
Speaker 2: when did you suspect something? What's happening? Because asking Amanda
Speaker 2: when did it start or what's going on is you're
Speaker 2: not gonna get a straight answer. And we know Wes
Speaker 2: is quiet this whole time. Why because he needs to
Speaker 2: let her lie. You need to let her lie.
Speaker 3: I fell you just because I watched the young sendra
Speaker 3: version when she corrected him on the mouth then he
Speaker 3: was doing it. I'm like, oh, she told you to
Speaker 3: shut up, say nothing, and I'll handle this.
Speaker 1: I gearan see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've done this, I've got this. I can do this.
Speaker 2: I'm ready to do it. You just be quiet. No,
Speaker 2: I think they both should be held to the absolute fire.
Speaker 2: So I'm glad. He asked Sierra, when do you When
Speaker 2: did you suspect something? And she said, now this broke
Speaker 2: my heart. I ain't gonna lie. This broke my heart.
Speaker 2: This is the worst feeling you could feel as a girlypop,
Speaker 2: as just a girl, as a friend, as a person.
Speaker 2: Imagine you sitting there asking your other friend, you want
Speaker 2: to go out. Let's go out, thirly pops. Let's you know, Amanda,
Speaker 2: she's single and grieving her long relationship and marriage. Remember,
Speaker 2: I've been a friend to you. I've been there this
Speaker 2: whole time. Let's go out, and let's go out on
Speaker 2: the town and hang out. She didn't answer the phone call,
Speaker 2: didn't answer the text message, and Amanda, see, this is
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. She didn't know she was set up,
Speaker 2: and that was comforting to me, she said, I answered it.
Speaker 2: Within thirty minutes. You answered the group message that me
Speaker 2: and we both of y'all into sitting next to each
Speaker 2: other because she was let won, she answered, and she's
Speaker 2: at West House. I find my friends and then find
Speaker 2: out you're like, oh shit. They can see that, and
Speaker 2: Kyle mentiones, you just went go ahead and turn them
Speaker 2: off all together. Now, okay, nobody track you. I didn't
Speaker 2: want anyone knowing where it was. And she says it
Speaker 2: so cavalierly, as if it wasn't what typical sneaking behavior does.
Speaker 2: And it's actually weird to me that so many people
Speaker 2: let her off the hook, saying it's not like I
Speaker 2: had a full blown affair. Yes you did. I don't
Speaker 2: care if you hate your husband. You had an affair.
Speaker 2: That's just like the worst part of it that Sierra was.
Speaker 2: And you let yourself get used because West don't want.
Speaker 1: You eave it. But well it gets worse because I've
Speaker 1: done the math.
Speaker 2: Let's do it. Let's look at that around tick all right.
Speaker 1: So back in episode ten, the episode.
Speaker 3: Where Kyle cussed Amanda out, that was in July, because
Speaker 3: it was right after the Fourth of July party, indeed,
Speaker 3: so that bathroom moment where we couldn't hear nothing, and
Speaker 3: then he comes out and all of a sudden, touchy
Speaker 3: lovey w pheely, that's where it started. Yest, We're gonna
Speaker 3: fast forward because West had a plan from the beginning. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because he was love bombing Sierra from the beginning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you thought that would be the word, you know,
Speaker 2: the way to get to instant fame, and you know
Speaker 2: all of that. But yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: So by the end of the season, which is right
Speaker 3: before Labor Day in August, their last day of filming,
Speaker 3: they had had that makeout session, not morning, and then
Speaker 3: and then they went back to the city. Now, between
Speaker 3: point A and point B, we're gonna say September because
Speaker 3: and this is where it dips over into another franchise,
Speaker 3: Mia from Southern Hospitality met up with Western, had a
Speaker 3: little nook nookie with him, and that was the middle
Speaker 3: of September.
Speaker 1: Now, the only.
Speaker 3: Reason I yes, and then the only reason I know
Speaker 3: that West and Amanda were still in heavy communication is
Speaker 3: because that November at Bravo Khan in a media room,
Speaker 3: Mia said that Amanda came running up to her and
Speaker 3: asked her how much she enjoyed her date with West,
Speaker 3: because she helped curate that date, she helped make that
Speaker 3: all happen, and she wanted to make sure she was
Speaker 3: happy with that date.
Speaker 1: What good? What eight? That's so gross?
Speaker 2: No, you know, Sierra pulled her card, and that's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying and y'all over here, that was too harsh.
Speaker 2: First of all, Kyle, I'm not trying to jump ahead,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna go ahead and stop you right now
Speaker 2: with the whole don't because what I also watched is
Speaker 2: for the last eight nine years, you ring this same
Speaker 2: girl out way worse than whatever Sierra is doing to
Speaker 2: her right now, when this person's done something to Sierra,
Speaker 2: this is just carted accountability at this point. You get
Speaker 2: what you get, and you don't get upset if you
Speaker 2: do somebody dirty like this. You don't know how they're
Speaker 2: gonna handle it. You can't control their response. So don't
Speaker 2: tell Sierra she needs to hold back. You should have
Speaker 2: held back when Amanda was your wife and not doing
Speaker 2: anything to you and you were still yelling at her.
Speaker 2: Way where then her being told that she's a snake
Speaker 2: in the grass.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so from November to January, it makes perfect sense
Speaker 3: that they've been carrying on that whole time, which is
Speaker 3: why that whole thing happened with Sierra and Nia when
Speaker 3: they got back to New York in January, because they
Speaker 3: wanted to party down.
Speaker 1: So there's your.
Speaker 3: Little bit of your timeline. It's a little bit more
Speaker 3: figured out. Now there's so it's.
Speaker 2: Not February, March, all of this year, January seventh of
Speaker 2: this year, all the kay I was just wondering, okay,
Speaker 2: because that's what she offered up to us in February.
Speaker 2: She denied it. But then they released a statement in March.
Speaker 2: That's right after you were on washing ap As five
Speaker 2: and said no, good like you said, they got smoked out,
Speaker 2: as you know we learned in the leaks, So in March,
Speaker 2: being that they put that statement out twenty four hours
Speaker 2: before he was gonna watch What Happens Live, he was
Speaker 2: sleeping with somebody else. This dates back now to twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five, and they apologize to people separately. They didn't
Speaker 2: put it in the thing, and Wes didn't even do
Speaker 2: a full thing. He was so lazy that really made
Speaker 2: me so pissed. Oh like, you didn't even try to
Speaker 2: act like you A heard. I know you are on
Speaker 2: a bigger plan. You've got a bigger scheme subject going on.
Speaker 2: I do believe the con at the situation, because Amanda
Speaker 2: was texting so many people apparently, but for Wes to
Speaker 2: not even text kJ as if he said, well, I
Speaker 2: just did it to the people that I thought would
Speaker 2: be affected by this the most. What everybody was affected
Speaker 2: by this, And you would think that if you were
Speaker 2: a genuine person, you would understand how your actions impact
Speaker 2: other people. If you are a genuine person.
Speaker 3: It's it's sad because I think people are now realizing
Speaker 3: their net value to him in regards to where he
Speaker 3: holds people in general.
Speaker 1: Yeah, these people, they thought it was deeper. It was
Speaker 1: like Jesse.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Jesse Solomon, he found out just where he
Speaker 3: stood in this situation.
Speaker 1: I don't think he liked it.
Speaker 2: No, No, he was shocked and hurt. He was like, no,
Speaker 2: I actually sat with you know that that conspiracy that
Speaker 2: I had that they talked about it at that that
Speaker 2: lunch that Dumont posted about that they were so quick
Speaker 2: to deny that they were together. And I was like,
Speaker 2: that must be because she didn't want to upset West.
Speaker 2: But everybody was like, oh, no, it's not her and Jesse.
Speaker 2: They were just friends. They're just friends. And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: she must have been telling him or looping him in.
Speaker 2: He's like, no, she was denying it still.
Speaker 1: To me then, and he asked her, He asked her.
Speaker 2: That is crazy. I'm sorry, like that is, you could
Speaker 2: have told somebody, and she's like, I knew I would
Speaker 2: have had to tell Sierra at some point, but yet
Speaker 2: you never did. And that's why I keep saying entitlement.
Speaker 2: She felt so entitled to the support and the friendship
Speaker 2: because she I acknowledged that she was still going through
Speaker 2: a hard time. I see some of you dizzy bitches
Speaker 2: trying to defend her on the internet, Amanda and be like, oh,
Speaker 2: she was going through a divorce, and you're slut shaming
Speaker 2: a divorcing woman. I'm not slut shaming her. In fact,
Speaker 2: it feels much everybody told her to go ahead and
Speaker 2: get that nookie. You could have done it with somebody
Speaker 2: else's ex, not your best friends, a stranger.
Speaker 3: The thing of the matter is, it doesn't even matter
Speaker 3: if it were or your husband's friend, or any or
Speaker 3: any of your husband's friends or any of your friends.
Speaker 3: If it's somebody in your purview and you know that
Speaker 3: it's going to affect you and your relationships in a
Speaker 3: certain way, just say it at the beginning and say, look,
Speaker 3: I'm catching feelings for this guy, and I wanted to
Speaker 3: be on Front Street with you as we go through this.
Speaker 1: If she had just done that. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: would have happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Andy asked Sierra, Like how would she responded? I
Speaker 2: guess I should have just said, like, hey, I know
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have these feelings, but I do. And I'm like, yes,
Speaker 2: that's absolutely what you should have said. And then you
Speaker 2: and then some people were like and then you put
Speaker 2: them away and you grow the fuck up. I'm sorry
Speaker 2: because you didn't need to do this right now. You
Speaker 2: are also still married. And Carl clothed it in the
Speaker 2: summertime too, he said, the touchy feely you don't I
Speaker 2: was observing. I was like, I would never touch a
Speaker 2: married person like that. I don't care how. In fact,
Speaker 2: I would feel more uncomfortable doing it if I saw
Speaker 2: a married couple fighting, because then people don't think I'm
Speaker 2: having an affair with that woman, which is what it
Speaker 2: looks like. Why are you kissing her and touching her
Speaker 2: on the head? Like it just was weird. It is
Speaker 2: so much inappropriate.
Speaker 1: The little side, the little side booby too, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like that's a married woman unless you know something we
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: Oh, I think they knew a lot we didn't.
Speaker 2: I think he did. I think he knew a whole
Speaker 2: lot that we did not know. No, we ain't.
Speaker 3: I think I think at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: as far as this situationship goes, I think Amanda was
Speaker 3: just another Pilly in his stable.
Speaker 4: And I think she there was another level up, Like
Speaker 4: she thought she was alpha female and she didn't realize
Speaker 4: she's just another beta in that house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the thing. She learned it at this
Speaker 2: reunion and she's learning it in real time. Oh, she
Speaker 2: was pissed. They have to stay together now out of spite.
Speaker 2: They have to. They don't have to, they have to
Speaker 2: at least wait they're yeah, they're in Rome right now,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, y'all need to stay in.
Speaker 1: Rome, you all.
Speaker 3: I love the fact that they couldn't handle the heat
Speaker 3: of a reunion week and they fled.
Speaker 2: Fled, And his podcast came out this week. West did
Speaker 2: a podcast this week and.
Speaker 1: He you already know how I feel about that ship.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that shit was crazy, I said, Oh, and
Speaker 2: then you leave, Oh okay, that's so crazy. Again, still
Speaker 2: acting confused what with the her acting surprised. I don't
Speaker 2: know why she would say that that. I'm wrote her
Speaker 2: out of spite. I'm not with a man out of spite. No, no.
Speaker 3: But the thing that got me of that whole thing
Speaker 3: was that he did confessed that last week he had
Speaker 3: a three hour sit down with Pyle and it was filmed,
Speaker 3: and it was filmed for in the city quite obviously,
Speaker 3: but it's what he said at the very end of
Speaker 3: his podcast. He said, it was definitely a good talk.
Speaker 3: It's definitely going to be better for me than it
Speaker 3: was at the reunion. And that's the problem with West.
Speaker 3: It's always what's better for him.
Speaker 2: It's so about him, it's so about him, and I
Speaker 2: don't understand that, Like I really don't. Your actions are
Speaker 2: still acting like this is all about like notoriety and
Speaker 2: whatever for you. And you thought you were gonna get
Speaker 2: that trader's treatment where they would at least send Tom
Speaker 2: Scandival over the traders and oh whatever, And that's just
Speaker 2: not where we're at, Bubs, That's not where we're at.
Speaker 2: You're not getting that treatment. And he is actually really
Speaker 2: annoyed because you also just lied the whole time. At
Speaker 2: the very least, Tom Sandival was honest because he believed
Speaker 2: his own bullshit, right, he believed his own book shit,
Speaker 2: and he could just start crying, and he's just like,
Speaker 2: I'm hurt and I know I heard her. I did
Speaker 2: a bad thing, and I'm really set. He's so good
Speaker 2: at being pitiful, it's part of his brand, standerbal, so
Speaker 2: he could like lean into that and it doesn't have
Speaker 2: hurt him and they make him do his penance on
Speaker 2: traders and sweat out in detox or whatever. But Wes,
Speaker 2: you're still looking like you are trying to be Bobby.
Speaker 2: You're the Bobby Fisher of this groupe, my love, like
Speaker 2: you're trying to figure out what's best for you. The
Speaker 2: reunion didn't go well, like you thought you would just
Speaker 2: have a Jacks reunion or whatever, like no, because what
Speaker 2: the thing is about all those people, They've always been assholes.
Speaker 2: They're assholes to us. That's the point. You while a
Speaker 2: bad boy or like a player suirre all over the place.
Speaker 2: You gave all this golden retriever puppy energy. You were
Speaker 2: fiercely supportive and and a bone and a shoulder to
Speaker 2: cry on and somebody to listen to and support. You
Speaker 2: feigned the complete opposite of what those men did to
Speaker 2: allow people to be like, I don't care, I still
Speaker 2: will show up to a Jackson event knowing he's the asshole.
Speaker 2: That's what makes you different. You're not honest about even
Speaker 2: where you're at now. And that's why Lindsay was like,
Speaker 2: you're so good, bro, You're so good. Even I almost
Speaker 2: got back into it, because you know, they've all been
Speaker 2: racking their brain, showing receipts, going back and forth with
Speaker 2: each other since, just trying to figure it out. They're like,
Speaker 2: how did he get this past all of us? He
Speaker 2: really was trying to figure out what his best option was.
Speaker 2: And I really believe that if him and Sierra could
Speaker 2: have panned out, or he and Mia could have panned out,
Speaker 2: even this as far as the last summer when they kissed,
Speaker 2: he would have taken whatever option was best for him.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean with the amount of girls that are
Speaker 3: coming out now and say, I don't think he's with Amanda, No, God, no.
Speaker 3: And the problem is he's stuck now, Oh so stuck.
Speaker 2: He's the most stuck he's ever been.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: I love it because no matter what he does now,
Speaker 3: everybody's watching him, and not in a good way.
Speaker 2: No, not at all. I mean, like when they break
Speaker 2: up inevitably, which they will, they'll probably do it very quietly.
Speaker 2: I will laugh my behind off as well. I really will,
Speaker 2: because duh.
Speaker 1: Well, send him the Rhode Islands and letting be with
Speaker 1: letting be with Brian.
Speaker 2: No, you know you're wrong, Brian. Brian is not a
Speaker 2: better cheater at all. Yeah, so we're going through that timeline.
Speaker 2: He says nothing for the entire thirty minutes of this, like,
Speaker 2: not a word. He did and and he did fondle
Speaker 2: his hey, his eyes just wandered. They wandered after Sierra
Speaker 2: when she walked now, she was like, fuck, I did
Speaker 2: not plan this right.
Speaker 3: And can I just say, Lindsey looking over the man
Speaker 3: I like the butner.
Speaker 2: Badge, he's like the butter y'all out.
Speaker 3: And she goes, you all look pretty tale and they're
Speaker 3: all like, oh yeah, bitch, we now.
Speaker 2: Uh huh yeah. Lindsay came, Corolla Deville, she came ready, Okay,
Speaker 2: she came.
Speaker 3: They probably put it on and then I'll just didn't
Speaker 3: look right, so they said put it back on.
Speaker 2: The exactly you funny as hell. Mark. I'm glad that
Speaker 2: Sierra and Mia have each other. I really was happy
Speaker 2: to see and hear that they live in the same building.
Speaker 2: They are each other support they support kJ but I
Speaker 2: love that they have their sisterhood together right now, especially
Speaker 2: during this time. They can both be there for each
Speaker 2: other in so many ways. I want to see them
Speaker 2: on that. I'm gonna be watching their Instagram stories. I mean,
Speaker 2: I know serious, booked, then busy and MIA's like BFS
Speaker 2: with Rihanna now, but like they are all. I want
Speaker 2: them out and about. I want them to have a
Speaker 2: it's summer be friends with each other and like you
Speaker 2: go a different direction, okay, like too good for this
Speaker 2: world those two, I swear to God. I'm just they do.
Speaker 2: She's gonna fly back, I think from after Sun halfway
Speaker 2: through and like go and she's gonna be This is
Speaker 2: gonna film and they're gonna do both. Interesting how that
Speaker 2: will play out. I really hope it's tough for Amanda
Speaker 2: and West if they choose to. I don't know.
Speaker 3: There's no way, there's no way, there's no way they
Speaker 3: can viably live in that house together. It just doesn't
Speaker 3: make sense to even try to force that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what they're gonna do. I really don't,
Speaker 2: and I'm worried about it. I because I was worried
Speaker 2: that Sierra wasn't gonna come back because she's got so
Speaker 2: many books right now. Yeah, they're like, please don't leave
Speaker 2: us yet, Okay. I mean every commercial break was a
Speaker 2: Sierra one, Sierra another one. Yeah, that I had, every
Speaker 2: single one was see sonic. Her and Ariana looked so
Speaker 2: good together. They too, It looks so cute. The waves
Speaker 2: were waving in the hair. It was very good. I
Speaker 2: wondered why they didn't need any of that baggage. They
Speaker 2: left their baggage at the house and they're so poetic.
Speaker 2: It was just like the batteries in the drawer for Arihanna.
Speaker 2: They were like, no, leave that baggage here, girl, you
Speaker 2: don't need noney of this shit. Leave it all at
Speaker 2: this mansion at Let's piece the fuck out. I love it. No, girls,
Speaker 2: let's love that for her.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna love.
Speaker 3: What I love the most of all is that when
Speaker 3: all this is said and done and West isn't on
Speaker 3: the show anymore and he's not famous anymore, he's gonna
Speaker 3: be jerking off to the memory of what he lost
Speaker 3: to the day he dies. Oh for sure, he's never
Speaker 3: gonna have that ever again.
Speaker 2: Oh no, he won't he can't. He can't. It's too late.
Speaker 2: He gave it up. I mean, you could have been
Speaker 2: not an asshole or and committed to Sierra and not
Speaker 2: been a fame or and a little Cursi's probably and
Speaker 2: you could have been her last night at her dsw
Speaker 2: Girls Girlypop event. But you aren't. You're in Rome spending
Speaker 2: your own money.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think it's not.
Speaker 2: Scrolling, just scrolling there at dinner scrolling and it's so.
Speaker 3: Wild totally, But I mean, are you this is just
Speaker 3: the sensence you just said it, and I'm going to
Speaker 3: say it. I'm feeling there's a lot of objectification with Sierra,
Speaker 3: where West wants her because she's exotic and she's beautiful
Speaker 3: and almost unobtainable, and she went for him, and then Amanda,
Speaker 3: on the flip side, wants to tear that down because
Speaker 3: she doesn't like that she.
Speaker 1: Can't have that be better than her.
Speaker 3: So when when she her when she told her to
Speaker 3: pardon my French, fuck off.
Speaker 2: That was crazy. I was like, you got a lot
Speaker 2: of nerve, boot, I wasn't sleeping with him. Fuck off? Girl?
Speaker 2: Were supposed to how are we supposed to believe that
Speaker 2: first of all, how you how dare you tell us
Speaker 2: fuck off? As if we're supposed to know that you're
Speaker 2: absolutely telling the truth and we know all the facts
Speaker 2: and details because you've been so goddamn transparent and honest
Speaker 2: for all these months and year. Yeah, tell me the
Speaker 2: fuck off. I'm don't know what the hell to believe
Speaker 2: or what to know. You've lied to ever rebody.
Speaker 3: I said it to Jeff, he was sitting right next
Speaker 3: to me. I said that micro aggression was real right there,
Speaker 3: like she.
Speaker 2: Don't have a bone, depends like she can't really come
Speaker 2: at you because you're a soft little white woman in yellow.
Speaker 2: She's not allowed to yellow. You better get softened in
Speaker 2: the macawave and melt her stick up at her like
Speaker 2: she's over here acting like Sierra can't come at her.
Speaker 2: She doesn't deserve all.
Speaker 1: That from her, Yes, no one else.
Speaker 2: It's like not fair. And that's also why again I
Speaker 2: told Kyle, y'all can kick rocks on that that was
Speaker 2: a little harsh. No, it wasn't. Did she slap her?
Speaker 2: What's harsh?
Speaker 3: I see if she had said that to me and
Speaker 3: I was a female, and I've been aggrieved that for
Speaker 3: she'd have caught hands.
Speaker 1: She'd have caught hands.
Speaker 2: Sir told Kyle's like, she's your wife, she's not mine.
Speaker 2: I don't have to stop.
Speaker 3: But speaking of Kyle, let's just yeah, I want to
Speaker 3: focus in on this. I've never seen he's very thin
Speaker 3: in the reunion, I don't think he had. He didn't
Speaker 3: look good and you could tell he's tired and a.
Speaker 2: Lot of also news to me. How guess we knew
Speaker 2: he and West were close, but I got to see
Speaker 2: the betrayal in a new way.
Speaker 1: Because really, yeah, they are.
Speaker 2: That's so painful.
Speaker 3: I have to wonder if he did that just to
Speaker 3: keep the affair quiet, because I.
Speaker 2: Mean, I imagine so they even also went to brunch. That
Speaker 2: was a hard thing to realize that that first kick
Speaker 2: that they admit to, the first kiss they admit to,
Speaker 2: which that timeline has to still be off, is at
Speaker 2: the brunch that got at the same day they hung out.
Speaker 2: You're buggin' that's weird. I'm sorry, that's mean, you're a
Speaker 2: bad friend. I don't know like that. That feels really mean.
Speaker 1: Lindsay said it best.
Speaker 3: Lindsay said, using your husband as a decoy to hide
Speaker 3: your boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. Woo kay, this is like some really
Speaker 2: serious things. I don't want to hear no for real,
Speaker 2: because like we've there's a lot of people I know
Speaker 2: that got ADHD and that have and I hate when
Speaker 2: people like blame their mental health on it, as if
Speaker 2: you don't have a choice. You have a choice to
Speaker 2: lean into the impulse or not. You are aware the
Speaker 2: impulse is happening, You are aware that you want to
Speaker 2: do the thing. You are aware even of that there
Speaker 2: might be consequences. But when you choose to follow through
Speaker 2: on it, you have to know that you will be
Speaker 2: held accountable for it. And I say that as someone
Speaker 2: who frequently follows through on impulses, but she probably shouldn't.
Speaker 2: Nothing too crazy, nothing that would have hurt her, harmony one, myself,
Speaker 2: for others. But I have ADHD really bad. I do
Speaker 2: get the impulses and I do fear the Okay, well,
Speaker 2: sometimes I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna say yes to this
Speaker 2: extra whip impulse because I said no to taking the
Speaker 2: tolls when I had no money on them. And that's bad.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. You gotta pick and choose, girl,
Speaker 2: and so for months and months and months for you
Speaker 2: to never fight the impulse. Sierra made a good point.
Speaker 2: Y'all talked about it, You had conversations, you talked about
Speaker 2: what to put in the statement, but you couldn't talk
Speaker 2: about when to talk to us. You couldn't talk about
Speaker 2: how this would affect other people, however it affect your friends.
Speaker 3: Really, I still want to know. I still want to
Speaker 3: know why that video tape got taped. I want to
Speaker 3: know who figured it out, because somebody had to figure
Speaker 3: it out.
Speaker 2: Somebody had to figure it out, and I want to
Speaker 2: talk to him, Honestly me, I want to talk. I
Speaker 2: want to talk, I do. I just want to know
Speaker 2: what did you know? What did you see? What did
Speaker 2: you like? How do you know? I want to see
Speaker 2: the video. Like I very convinced that this is not
Speaker 2: the end that they will experience of the of the
Speaker 2: backlash of this. I think they thought that they could
Speaker 2: just move on, But Sierra is going to continue to
Speaker 2: stay booked and busy from this as well. And the
Speaker 2: rhetoric like Arianna will be similar to this. And if
Speaker 2: you didn't pay attention to Sandoval didn't really bounce back.
Speaker 1: No, now he did. Horses and House of Villains and
Speaker 1: traders that was it, And.
Speaker 2: Did y'all watch all of them? I mean, we watched
Speaker 2: the Traders, but it was also in spite of him,
Speaker 2: and when he left people were there who didn't know him,
Speaker 2: didn't like him at all. So him being booked and
Speaker 2: busy is very difficult.
Speaker 1: You see singing in bars in Canada right now.
Speaker 2: So West wants to go singing bars in Canada. Great,
Speaker 2: that's what your future looks like. It's bright. Maybe Amanda
Speaker 2: will go and a manim. I think she's the hottest
Speaker 2: girl up there. Canada's probably so mad at me right now, like, hell,
Speaker 2: dare you you? Mony? Mony? That's rude, sare because she'll
Speaker 2: come up here and she'd be the hottest person up there,
Speaker 2: but she can be clean of the Canadians in her mind.
Speaker 2: She'd be like, oh yeah her and West can go
Speaker 2: up there and he can hold his burps in for
Speaker 2: the rest of his days. Ew I want to shift
Speaker 2: gars a little bit and talk about some of the
Speaker 2: other bullshit that happened on this cast and on this show.
Speaker 2: It was a good reunion, It really was. I it
Speaker 2: was part one and I was like, we've had a
Speaker 2: lot to get through. Bailey reading that brick gets me
Speaker 2: every time. I really said, Bailey reading into that British
Speaker 2: man even though I know his name is Ben and
Speaker 2: Ben is only three letters, and I could have wrote
Speaker 2: that that British mun because he also doesn't have my respect.
Speaker 1: He's Australian.
Speaker 2: Whatever. Sorry, no ten, no shade to the Australians. Although
Speaker 2: y'all are loseing on the white guys, y'all sen de bravo. Yeah,
Speaker 2: these are some terrible representations. We've not had good ones. No,
Speaker 2: I need better for the Australians. Sendra back.
Speaker 1: Look, she read him for fot read him for.
Speaker 2: Filth, and she did not. She did not lie about Sorry.
Speaker 2: Apologies to the Brits. Also, because this is not your fault.
Speaker 2: You have enough assholes to you know, account for that.
Speaker 2: We don't up to give you another one. Listen, spoken
Speaker 2: from a girl from a country run by an asshole.
Speaker 2: All fine, get it, reconnize. So I'm just saying they
Speaker 2: have a lot and I don't need to add them
Speaker 2: another Australia. This is yours. So like Ben, you do
Speaker 2: like to reprimand women. That is a fact. You are
Speaker 2: a boy's boy. You are not your BROI to the core.
Speaker 2: It is very bro coded and it's weird. Like she's like,
Speaker 2: you want to make out with Kyle?
Speaker 3: Well, he says that I thought was going to turn
Speaker 3: into a kiss.
Speaker 1: That was like, oh, have we been hiding something, Kyle?
Speaker 1: What's happening?
Speaker 2: Do you see the way I pushed my glasses down
Speaker 2: on my nose.
Speaker 1: Talks about some of them in the clubs in New York.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm want to say.
Speaker 2: I'm in toy we'll clubs. Let me going up, sit,
Speaker 2: getting my back, and I.
Speaker 1: Can tell I can tell you right now.
Speaker 3: A certain Summer House cast member has been spotted in
Speaker 3: Boxers a couple of times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, all right, well listen Bailey. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be I'm gonna be thinking about ruminating is
Speaker 2: really more the word. Okay. Ben is still good with
Speaker 2: the girlfriend or the missus, but Bailey still got time
Speaker 2: and a half for him. He's like, I thought you
Speaker 2: liked my girlfriend and she's like, no, Sabrina's fab You're awful.
Speaker 3: She back when she said you can do better. I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, Ben, you're off the show.
Speaker 2: Like she she really could do bad. I think she
Speaker 2: could because why did you talk to her like that?
Speaker 2: But she was trying to kiss you. You ringed her out.
Speaker 2: That was so weird. That was so weird. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean when they showed it, I was like, yeah, he's
Speaker 2: got a problem with girlies. He does. He has a
Speaker 2: girl of pop problem.
Speaker 1: I've never liked him.
Speaker 2: No, same. I liked all the girls this year except
Speaker 2: for one. Didn't think I disliked her until we found
Speaker 2: out about all this, you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 2: I knew that she was alway, but I was fine
Speaker 2: with her existing because I'm happy with Sierra having a
Speaker 2: support that she deserved. And she says she's a friend.
Speaker 2: Then I was fine with her having another friend because
Speaker 2: Sierra deserves that. But I've never really liked Amanda. Never
Speaker 2: cared for her. Well. She was very playing Jane, and
Speaker 2: in the house of white women, other ones weren't playing Jane.
Speaker 2: I just felt like I didn't care for her. Like
Speaker 2: you got Lindsay Hubbard right there. If I'm gonna root for,
Speaker 2: you know, a white woman, I'm gonna root for Lindsay, Okay,
Speaker 2: like she's got something.
Speaker 3: I'm not the biggest Lindsay fan, but I fully support her.
Speaker 2: Moxye, Listen, I understand. I think Lindsay is a flawed
Speaker 2: human being in a lot of ways. I like Hubhouse.
Speaker 2: I like her in this reunion. I like Hubhouse and
Speaker 2: a reunion. I liked her and Carl having this cute
Speaker 2: little banter, but then her also being supportive of him,
Speaker 2: like hooking up with somebody else and getting with maybe
Speaker 2: Bailey or something like. He's like, I really like that.
Speaker 2: And I left focusing on Carl and Bailey's connection, but
Speaker 2: how they were handling this like adults who were like,
Speaker 2: we're not ready. There's a severe age difference. He wants
Speaker 2: to not fuck around. I don't know if that's what
Speaker 2: I do or don't want. Yeah, we got something, but
Speaker 2: we're really great friends right now, and that's cool. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, look at maturity.
Speaker 1: I was a grown ass. That was a grown ass
Speaker 1: man talk right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, thirty one, Bailey is and Carl's
Speaker 2: forty one, and West and Amanda sit in the middle
Speaker 2: and still acting like children. You've never been in this situation,
Speaker 2: like no one in the world has been. That's what
Speaker 2: my third graders say to me.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm just start He sounds just like her.
Speaker 2: I guess no one else in the world has ever
Speaker 2: been in a situation like this before. I'm the first
Speaker 2: person ever being one like this. Lindsey's like, yeah, in
Speaker 2: high school, this is a Nickelodeon plot. Listen Disney Channel episodes.
Speaker 3: She's hello, this is meant to be worked out free,
Speaker 3: like in ninth grade.
Speaker 2: We're supposed to work out that impulse of like doing
Speaker 2: something that might hurt your friends and learning that there
Speaker 2: are consequences to your actions that will affect and impact
Speaker 2: your relationships, especially around the boy. Is it enough? Is
Speaker 2: it enough? Like in high school? Yeah, because your emotions
Speaker 2: are all consuming, your frontal lobe is not fully developed.
Speaker 2: Teenagers are much more developmentally hormonal. They are one hundred
Speaker 2: percent emotion, zero percent ration. Like they are all no rationale,
Speaker 2: all emotion. So they do stupid shit like make out
Speaker 2: with their best friend's boyfriend at a party, and then
Speaker 2: it becomes like school news, and now everybody's talking about
Speaker 2: it because like they didn't think, oh, this is gonna
Speaker 2: hurt my friend, and they're remorseful, but they they didn't.
Speaker 2: Y'all want to blame connections, so you can't help who
Speaker 2: you are attracted to. Babes, y'all also been in this
Speaker 2: house for so long. Yes, you can help it, and
Speaker 2: you should. That's the difference. At your big grown age,
Speaker 2: you know you should help it. You should in a
Speaker 2: certain situations. Listen, But that was a but mark, They
Speaker 2: had an arrangement. She furnished it.
Speaker 1: That bothers me.
Speaker 2: She sent, she spent money, and that's fine. It's different
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 3: Actually, one hundred and sixteen thousand dollars goes straight to hell.
Speaker 2: Go straight to hell. You know, he's he's you're talking
Speaker 2: about how you spent money on the house and do
Speaker 2: all that. You didn't help him pay rent. You see
Speaker 2: that he's not going through a bankruptcy. He's had to
Speaker 2: take all personal loans for himself just to float his
Speaker 2: business and pay for them. There is household and live
Speaker 2: and you're gonna sleep with his friend. Can you calm down?
Speaker 2: You are listen y'all?
Speaker 3: Does you you know exactly what you want to say?
Speaker 1: I wish you just say it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's given. I found a shirt today that
Speaker 2: I was gonna buy that said my dog said you're
Speaker 2: a hoe, And I just think that I might it's
Speaker 2: I might get that.
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, you might be a How if you
Speaker 3: if you display hoish like tendencies.
Speaker 2: You might be, you might be. You might be a hoe,
Speaker 2: a homewrecker.
Speaker 3: A hot mask slut shaming because you know what if
Speaker 3: you're gonna go out there and get yours and say
Speaker 3: I got mine, but he don't belong to no one else.
Speaker 2: Girl exactly, especially because you knew the conversations that they
Speaker 2: were having any flat out as hers. So it's not
Speaker 2: about the whole them. You're a hoe because of how
Speaker 2: you hold your friend out, you hold Sierra. You did
Speaker 2: some whole shit to her and behind your husband, but
Speaker 2: you are still married too.
Speaker 1: Worst time back kinda ho.
Speaker 2: It is not about sleeping with somebody. In fact, you
Speaker 2: could have never stopped him, and I still call you
Speaker 2: a hoe because what you did was hosh. This is
Speaker 2: some weird old ho shit.
Speaker 1: Girls creeping out the back door.
Speaker 2: Every time Kyle literally said you were supposed to hook
Speaker 2: up with somebody random, You were supposed to literally have
Speaker 2: a htation, somebody said, I don't think it's a good
Speaker 2: idea to jump on one relationship to the other. Camera
Speaker 2: pans to them like you're in a marriage.
Speaker 3: What what do you think about West and Jesse?
Speaker 1: What do you think Jesse? Truly knew. I think he
Speaker 1: had suspicion.
Speaker 2: I think he definitely had suspicions, and I think he
Speaker 2: probably knew more than he thought. I think he's just
Speaker 2: upset and disappointed that Wes never lied to his face
Speaker 2: because I think he was, like I saw it. We
Speaker 2: were closer than that, and I know I asked you.
Speaker 2: I know we talked about it, and so I think
Speaker 2: he was embarrassed the same way. I think that Sierra
Speaker 2: is louder about how her embarrassment is also hurt because
Speaker 2: we saw the text thread of a Manda denying, denying, denying.
Speaker 2: I was not expecting that. Sira said, let's go through
Speaker 2: with honey, so you've never kissed them, slept with him,
Speaker 2: held hands, made out, done something behind closed doors, and
Speaker 2: she said, correct.
Speaker 1: Go to hell.
Speaker 3: Andy says, is there anything you want to resolve here today?
Speaker 3: She goes, no, I'm just want to put him in
Speaker 3: the ground here what they have, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Said, I guess we might as well go through the
Speaker 2: details before I, you know, put him in the ground
Speaker 2: and put dirt on them, over them up with dirt.
Speaker 1: They're not coming back to summer house.
Speaker 2: And why should they? They would just sit in their
Speaker 2: room and be annoyed and be by themselves. No one
Speaker 2: wants to play with you, No one wants to talk
Speaker 2: with you. Summer should be fun. What you did is unfun.
Speaker 2: This is so unfun. Andy asked every single person on
Speaker 2: that cast and they were like, we're anxious and sad
Speaker 2: and now we don't have a group chat, and they
Speaker 2: ruined it for all of us. Summer should be funny.
Speaker 2: You ruined it. This is so selfish.
Speaker 1: It's very broken.
Speaker 3: I never thought i'd see this show broken, very broken, and.
Speaker 2: I thought we had a nice thing. I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: lie I kind of I was having a nice little
Speaker 2: time with most of this cast. You know. Of course,
Speaker 2: I don't like Ben the Australian that I'm gonna stick
Speaker 2: for a bread for the entire season, because I could
Speaker 2: give a shit about whatever he got, whatever he's saying,
Speaker 2: Like the way that went past me all season, I
Speaker 2: was like, damn, this guy sucks. Just another bread talking
Speaker 2: loud and stupid. No, just another Australian man talking loud
Speaker 2: of stupid on Bravo. I think Bravo has a really
Speaker 2: bad international picker sometimes unless they're filming the show over there,
Speaker 2: like over there somewhere they got a bad they do
Speaker 2: a bad job with with with implants from other places.
Speaker 1: One note I did have.
Speaker 3: Did you notice how much Andy didn't talk this whole reunion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he let them go ahead.
Speaker 1: He stayed out of him. He was like girls.
Speaker 2: Raves and Sirah was clearing and Lindsay was getting to
Speaker 2: the business, getting to the bottom of things. They did
Speaker 2: their jobs.
Speaker 3: We're not done with Lindsay yet. That ain't even nothing yet.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: A lot of people forget that. She's the reason West
Speaker 3: is even on the show in the first place. She
Speaker 3: introduced him, yep, and looking responsible, and I'm sure that
Speaker 3: feels I'm sure she feels the level of responsibility about
Speaker 3: all this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because she was like, I didn't know you were
Speaker 2: like this.
Speaker 1: She so good? I knew.
Speaker 3: Is she like you said earlier when she said you're
Speaker 3: so good, you're so good, and you talk to girls
Speaker 3: in a cirtwing and you almost have me, But I
Speaker 3: pulled myself back out.
Speaker 2: Listen, she he got Jim Fessler. You see her over there,
Speaker 2: got a whole man, a whole man, and she's over here,
Speaker 2: man wesp talking about we're not even friends. I don't
Speaker 2: even know the man who's the West and she's over
Speaker 2: there hands head and hands. He's just so cute.
Speaker 3: I just want to know. Sierra just wouldn't arbitrarily say
Speaker 3: that about Fessler either. So the fact is she said
Speaker 3: that means that somebody was bragging about it.
Speaker 2: I think he does brag about a lot of things,
Speaker 2: because they confronted him about a lot of the different
Speaker 2: relations that he had that seemingly overwhelmed even the timeline
Speaker 2: that they're putting out, that.
Speaker 1: The whole timeline fell apart in three minutes.
Speaker 2: It fell apart in three minutes. And they were like,
Speaker 2: and Andy asked the manna, and that didn't bother you
Speaker 2: that he had a girl like last night, like over
Speaker 2: the night, She goes, I knew there's no place for
Speaker 2: them to not be united front. We're never gonna know
Speaker 2: how this really affected them, because there's no place and
Speaker 2: they're still in a trauma, in a shock right now
Speaker 2: of everything that's happening. I think their trauma bonded. They're
Speaker 2: together in spite well.
Speaker 3: When she found out that girl had stayed over, and
Speaker 3: Andy says, that doesn't bother you, and she just know,
Speaker 3: yes it did, Yes, it is you just realized that
Speaker 3: that blew up your timeline.
Speaker 1: Even more, or did dumb stupid woman.
Speaker 2: Wes is an asshole too for not even texting kJ
Speaker 2: in apology. And then it makes me even more upset
Speaker 2: knowing that kJ went through all that he went through
Speaker 2: this past year and was not there for him at all.
Speaker 1: I didn't know.
Speaker 3: I knew he had gone off grid for a while,
Speaker 3: but I didn't know it was that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was very brave and very bold and sharing
Speaker 2: what it is that he went through, how his mental
Speaker 2: health struggles had gotten what seemingly what he thought got
Speaker 2: the best of him, and how he took, you know,
Speaker 2: got into he sprung into action as best he could.
Speaker 2: And it's never too late to get help. It's never
Speaker 2: too late, until it's never too late, because it's better
Speaker 2: that you're here. So he went and got himself. He
Speaker 2: was hospitalized for self harm and he went to a
Speaker 2: treatment center. So yeah, and he went to treatment and
Speaker 2: he did the work. And you know, by it's a
Speaker 2: consistent thing and ongoing thing they'll always have to go through.
Speaker 2: And I'm worried about this whole like y'all creating speculation
Speaker 2: on whether or not he and Dara are still together
Speaker 2: and in that causing reading too much into it might
Speaker 2: trigger emotional or mental episode. So I'm like, just leave
Speaker 2: him alone. If they want us to know, maybe they're
Speaker 2: just working it out. They give them a weekend. People
Speaker 2: have feelings and they go through stuff. Okay, me and
Speaker 2: my wife are so solid now we will be together
Speaker 2: until we die and eat jello together. And but we
Speaker 2: broke up a few times before we got married, and
Speaker 2: so and so it happens. Everybody, calm down, leave that man,
Speaker 2: let him mentally heal in peace. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: things going on. He was at the event, he had
Speaker 2: the reunion this week. I'm sure there's just a lot
Speaker 2: of things that need to.
Speaker 1: Settle around right now.
Speaker 3: Right, it's a lot of white noise for him just
Speaker 3: letting be, yeah, and a.
Speaker 2: Lot of people reaching out, probably saying a lot of stuff,
Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of we're all dealing with this, right.
Speaker 2: He filmed this a while ago, we're all seeing it now,
Speaker 2: and now he have to relive it with us, with her,
Speaker 2: with whomever. Like, it's a lot. So I just hope
Speaker 2: that grace so early, I know, But they also had
Speaker 2: to capitalize on the fact so that Andy could say,
Speaker 2: you guys went on, he was on watching that was
Speaker 2: live in February, and then here we are, and just
Speaker 2: three weeks ago you released a statement.
Speaker 3: I feel like Sma with her hands. You know, I
Speaker 3: can't hit anybody because of my nick out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly the same, the same, And I'm like, but
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, girl, I might try.
Speaker 2: So. I'm glad that kJ has you know, his community
Speaker 2: as well in Sierra and Mia and the people that mattered.
Speaker 2: He sure does. He got two big sisters and they
Speaker 2: ride hard for him and for each other, and I appreciate.
Speaker 3: That that's a trinity I can get behind.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'll watch them do a bunch of ship. I
Speaker 2: want to see them do a lot of fun stuff
Speaker 2: together this summer. I want to see them going out
Speaker 2: doing fun stuff each just show that's what I want.
Speaker 2: I want to see that.
Speaker 1: I don't need fifth people. No, I want to see
Speaker 1: the vineyard.
Speaker 2: Thisly, okay, honestly, because you can't trust who you take
Speaker 2: the brunch with you. If I found out that someone
Speaker 2: I went to a brunch where then kissed my wife
Speaker 2: when that same day, it'd be a true crime episode, y'all.
Speaker 2: Be somebody that you'd be hosting. You would be hosting
Speaker 2: on my podcast episode of true crime, episode cover my
Speaker 2: own true crime. Mark would be like, so I'm the
Speaker 2: probably permanent guest to welcome to the permanent Mix in
Speaker 2: the box because well, I don't know money got it?
Speaker 2: Certain you know we're man god, she said the same
Speaker 2: representation as the your Stepho's and she's hoping for the best.
Speaker 3: She is gonna look, she's gonna she's gonna be at
Speaker 3: the She's gonna be at the courthouse with Wendy and.
Speaker 2: Listen, Teria probably gonna cover it. She gonna be right
Speaker 2: outside like, okay, so we're here and Money is on try.
Speaker 1: Terria's like here she comes.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, shan tail, purple pant pants are gonna be
Speaker 2: out there, like so mom is on trial because what
Speaker 2: happened was also before we get out of here, I
Speaker 2: want to say a special fuck you to Nick Viole.
Speaker 2: Did you see this? He said that Mia and Sierra
Speaker 2: were guess what words. I don't want to make you
Speaker 2: say it because it's bad. It starts with an A. No.
Speaker 1: Did he see the N word?
Speaker 2: He said? Aggressive? No, close white man. He said they
Speaker 2: were too.
Speaker 1: Aggressed, surprised me.
Speaker 3: He is he has as microaggressive and as racist as
Speaker 3: the day as well.
Speaker 2: I'm like, also, I know you're racist because Mia said
Speaker 2: nothing practically this reunion. She talked about their parents and
Speaker 2: exactly and being a friend to and a friend to
Speaker 2: Sierra and holding hands with people. That's all she did
Speaker 2: all the way up. I think I'm gonna start ending
Speaker 2: all of my episodes with my special fuck you up
Speaker 2: the days you and so today it's Nick Vile because
Speaker 2: I always sporadically at the end of like did you
Speaker 2: say blah blah blah, it's a special fuck you for you,
Speaker 2: Like that's it, and it's Nick Viole. Today. It's Nick
Speaker 2: viall a lot of times because until he goes away
Speaker 2: and I try to ignore him. But that was a
Speaker 2: little a step two uncomfortable thing.
Speaker 3: I can confirm privately because I may or may not
Speaker 3: have reached out to a certain Southern term cast member
Speaker 3: and they told me that privately. The Nick and his
Speaker 3: wife apologized privately, but they refused to do it publicly.
Speaker 2: They should do it publicly. I agree with Lindsay and
Speaker 2: everybody else. They're like, oh, we did it everybody privately
Speaker 2: Lindsay the PR Queen. One she was like, y'all should
Speaker 2: have won it to a PR person. And two you
Speaker 2: need to do it publicly because your actions are public,
Speaker 2: so it needs to also be public. What a piece
Speaker 2: of shit, pieces of shit they do deserve each other
Speaker 2: they do. At this point, I'm like, they gotta they
Speaker 2: almost gotta be in game, because yeah, they gotta be
Speaker 2: in game. They've got to go all in, like Ari
Speaker 2: from The Bachelor and now that he manipulated into being
Speaker 2: with him because he couldn't be with a woman who
Speaker 2: would clock him on his shit.
Speaker 1: So forgot about that.
Speaker 2: I didn't to pique narcissism on TV. You know, we
Speaker 2: actually decided together not to watch the remaining episodes of
Speaker 2: the season. Said, oh, the ones where you trailed that
Speaker 2: girl around her house and said that she was just
Speaker 2: too difficult, but you want her to be okay with
Speaker 2: you leaving for the other woman. You decided not to
Speaker 2: watch that part where y'all talked about your intimacy and
Speaker 2: how he switched up on her. Oh okay, that's what
Speaker 2: you decided as a couple not to watch, because you
Speaker 2: watched it and lived it and just said okay, narcissism,
Speaker 2: got it, got it, got it, that's what we're dealing
Speaker 2: with here.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I've got people I made that post
Speaker 3: about Mia and weston Amanda today and I got people
Speaker 3: that were coming in coming into comments seeing.
Speaker 2: How dare you see that Amanda was micro aggressive to
Speaker 2: me and all that was like, she was, don't play
Speaker 2: the race card.
Speaker 1: I was a girl.
Speaker 2: It's not a race card a card to play. It's
Speaker 2: real and there is. In fact, the race card is
Speaker 2: not mine to play. It was played. When she started
Speaker 2: crying and y'all saw a victim because you didn't see
Speaker 2: one for Raquel, it was real easy for y'all to
Speaker 2: switch up and start calling that bitch Rachel. No problem.
Speaker 2: Nobody was leaping for her. When it was white on
Speaker 2: white crime, y'all were like, Rachel, fuck her, h sir,
Speaker 2: and I agree, I get it. But the fact that
Speaker 2: this happened to a black woman, it wasn't that serious.
Speaker 2: They weren't really together. We're being too harsh Amanda's mental health.
Speaker 2: She's crying. I think Sierra cried. I cried when I
Speaker 2: saw that woman in public have to scale down a
Speaker 2: building and be brought to her fucking knees in tears
Speaker 2: and pain and someone had to help her, a literal
Speaker 2: looking stranger and helped her.
Speaker 3: Well. Delores was a block was two blocks away at
Speaker 3: Watch what Happens Live. She just got done filming when
Speaker 3: it's all broke, Dolores, because you know they were on
Speaker 3: Traders together.
Speaker 1: They're very close.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes that's the girl.
Speaker 3: She and she and her assistant Frankie ran two blocks
Speaker 3: over and checked on her. They had taken her inside
Speaker 3: the building because they didn't want her sitting on the
Speaker 3: sidewalk crying because she was sitting on.
Speaker 2: Excuse me if I don't care if miss butter Yellow
Speaker 2: who I'm ready to take accountability for what I did
Speaker 2: and apologize to Amanda and I mean to Sierra, and
Speaker 2: Kyle starts crying for five minutes because the old out
Speaker 2: and because she was told exactly so just miss me
Speaker 2: with that, y'all real, Rare, I had somebody come to
Speaker 2: me and be like, y'all are slut shaming a man
Speaker 2: of your being weird? She was divorcing, she's going through
Speaker 2: a hard time, blah blah blah, and to which Sierra
Speaker 2: also said, and so do I And where was I? Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right. She was going through a hard time, she
Speaker 2: was divorcing, and she chose to do this anyway, which
Speaker 2: is what makes her a piece of head, because I
Speaker 2: wouldn't do that to my bff. They kept me going
Speaker 2: while I was divorcing. They held it hand. She shot,
Speaker 2: kick her up, girl, go to hell, you lucky. I'm
Speaker 2: not punching you into faith me reading you for fifth
Speaker 2: for an hour or two or three hours, least to
Speaker 2: your worries.
Speaker 3: That that She told Amanda, I'll ride for you'll, I'll
Speaker 3: clothe you, out feed you.
Speaker 1: You just come with me. You gotta leave that man.
Speaker 1: And little does she know, Cow wasn't all that horrible.
Speaker 1: He was an asshole, but he wasn't all horrible.
Speaker 2: And now we know about how much Apparently when you're
Speaker 2: under a lot of stress, it can put you to
Speaker 2: do ass holy things, right, Amanda, So now we know
Speaker 2: why how might have been snapping at you all the time.
Speaker 3: Sixteen thousand dollars and chuck And she just kind of chucked.
Speaker 3: She was like, oh, I paid it. I'm like, girl,
Speaker 3: what you got squirreled away?
Speaker 2: She him, you are a wild woman, and I appreciated this.
Speaker 2: Sierra and Kyle like made up at before the reunion
Speaker 2: she and not knowing she was like, I was being
Speaker 2: told so much. But also that was for Amanda's guilt.
Speaker 2: That was for Amandy's guilt, you know. And so I'm
Speaker 2: just like onwards and upwards for Sierra. I'm glad that
Speaker 2: she's getting through the details. So they can put them
Speaker 2: in the ground and cover put door it on top
Speaker 2: of them, and honey, baby, we're gonna be here as
Speaker 2: soon as they get to that second part. I don't
Speaker 2: know how I'm gonna handle it, because that first part
Speaker 2: was already a lot between kJ and Bailey and Levi
Speaker 2: and Carl and me being mad at all these men
Speaker 2: and and and and and Amanda and Andy's faces and everything.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm overwhelmed. I don't we didn't touch everything.
Speaker 2: But also who I've never needed two parts more? This
Speaker 2: deserves multiple parts. Beverly Hills take a look, and we're
Speaker 2: looking at a lot of cross pollination with Southern hospitality.
Speaker 2: We will be getting into that once I do, once
Speaker 2: I watch some more, because they're gonna be it comes
Speaker 2: up there, who's lying, what was true? What was not?
Speaker 2: But listen, I love it. When it's all over everywhere
Speaker 2: when it's like your actions have ripple effects, which is
Speaker 2: also why Sierra tried to make a deal with Wes
Speaker 2: that there would be no more Bravo people.
Speaker 1: That was why she did not.
Speaker 2: You see almost like she had a point because of
Speaker 2: the ripple effects. She's done this before. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but he was disingenuous and he's a piece of shit.
Speaker 2: Amanda is a snake in the grass, but Wes is
Speaker 2: a con artist. So I will see nothing but the worst.
Speaker 2: And I hope they're Rome, but it's making me happy
Speaker 2: to see them not looking like they're having a great
Speaker 2: time in Rome.
Speaker 1: They're not. You can tell that's sad.
Speaker 2: How you not have a good time in Italy and
Speaker 2: you're bugging Misery loves company, So be miserable together. Stay
Speaker 2: over there.
Speaker 3: Put me in a wheelchair and just wheel met every
Speaker 3: pizzeria and every Costa place and every baby.
Speaker 2: Cost the place there are like in front of like
Speaker 2: rolling hills of vineyards with wine and appys and oysters
Speaker 2: and stuff, and they're just scrolling on their phone, not
Speaker 2: even holding hands, not touching, not talking to each other. Baby,
Speaker 2: when I'm out of country, when I'm international with my
Speaker 2: boo ooh, honey, we gotta only post the PG pictures.
Speaker 2: They can't. You can't. Nobody is gonna catch me. Okay,
Speaker 2: nobody can even take a candid and post it like
Speaker 2: they're not having a good time. Ain't nobody questioning if
Speaker 2: we in love baby three, Margarita's in tongue is out.
Speaker 2: I don't know where it's gonna land. We out here
Speaker 2: right and having a good time. We dancing with the instructor.
Speaker 2: We're going out. They're gonna see us having a good
Speaker 2: time when I'm out of the country.
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: You in Rome and you just scrolling and it didn't
Speaker 2: y'all go over there so you wouldn't see what's on
Speaker 2: your phones. So he thank you? Okay, yeah, I feel
Speaker 2: better about it.
Speaker 1: Then you shocked? Shocked.
Speaker 2: That really upset me. I found out right before we recorded,
Speaker 2: Right before we were doing this, I said, I'm sorry
Speaker 2: what Kara Berry from everyone's business, but mind had a
Speaker 2: big moral red go go crazy today being like a
Speaker 2: special fuck you to Nick Viole for calling Mia and
Speaker 2: Sierra aggressive. I said, no, he did.
Speaker 3: What Well, when we're doing this, I'm going to delve
Speaker 3: into that too. As I eat my appetizers that are
Speaker 3: on their way.
Speaker 2: Okay, as I eat my Chipotle, I'm gonna go ahead
Speaker 2: and just read that Man of for filth and uh,
Speaker 2: I'm listen right back here. Next week I'll be here.
Speaker 2: I'll ask Mark if he'll be here. We'll watch it
Speaker 2: and we'll talk about it, y'all. We'll be there more
Speaker 2: to come. Wow, good for some listen. I guess if
Speaker 2: we had to sacrifice anybody's Amanda and West, you've been
Speaker 2: you sacrifice yourselves.
Speaker 1: Oh, they volunteered his tribute.
Speaker 2: They did volunteer his tribute. I hope it was worth it.
Speaker 2: I really do so. But it's always worth it if
Speaker 2: I get to talk to you Mark, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: Of course, of course, you guys, thank you so much
Speaker 2: for listening. You know where to find us on all
Speaker 2: the things on Instagram, threads, all the interwebs for Mark
Speaker 2: at the Pink Pop Box. Please get in there. All
Speaker 2: the best of the rundowns and the breakdowns that you
Speaker 2: love hearing here. He does them on a digital scale.
Speaker 2: If you don't have the bandwidth to listen, He's on
Speaker 2: the Instagram and he's still giving hot takes information all
Speaker 2: of that stuff, So y'all better go ahead and get
Speaker 2: into that. But don't be playing because he will go
Speaker 2: ahead and check that ass as well. Put all of
Speaker 2: y'all in your places. I'll be like, don't go to
Speaker 2: his dems with that again. Okay, Marcus spoken, And you
Speaker 2: know where to follow and find me on all the
Speaker 2: things at mixing with Money m I x I N
Speaker 2: g w I t H m A n I. And
Speaker 2: as always, take care of yourselves and stay happy, stay healthy.
Speaker 2: Don't be an Amanda in this world, okay, don't so
Speaker 2: I can ask you all right, take care of yourselves, babe,
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