248. Sunday Funday: RHOA & RHORI w/ Chantel (Purple Panda Pants)

0:00 Speaker 1: Sounds strugging.

0:11 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologists out there. It is your girl Moni and you are in the mix with Moni the show that if again, if you're watching it and then you're talking about it in your group chat, you likely we're talking about it in the hours, and we're going to talk about it on this show. And if you don't have a group chat to talk the mess of the reality TV with Hello, welcome to the mixers. Well we're here talk back to us, and y'all know, I got one of my favorites. We are here to yap today about the news, the announcements, the things that are happening, because she's been reporting it and whenever I get to over reposting Vanessa, y'all know, I just gotta be like, hey, can you you want to come and be Katie Kirk black Katie Kirk on the show?

0:53 Speaker 2: So here it is here. She is the black Katie Kirk. Literally my answer to Wendy Williams while y'all while I'm still p and on her return and her comeback, it is the from reality recap. How are you doing?

1:07 Speaker 1: Oh? Good money? Always in time when we over here.

1:11 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, thank you for being here, Thank you for your work, thank you for your service. You are out here, going live, having boots on the grounds, reporters from a far away y'all saw Vanessa post about I found out and again when other people end up sending me texts that like or texting me instagrams from my friends like, I think it's happened like a few times. I've literally gotten I got I've gotten a text that someone sent me one of el'se like briefed by l posts. I was like, bitch, I already commented, I'm probably text aware.

1:48 Speaker 2: What are you doing? I know I got it. I'm in, I'm involved, I'm in, I'm subscribed. Okay, happened again. Someone was like, oh my god last night after I already saw it and reposted it, but he sent it to me. It was reality recap and you had gone had done a collaborative post with what is it Bravo? Is it purple Panda pants? Yeah? Chantelle shout out to Chantel, who is from the DNV. But y'all gone live, we got together, gone live on YouTube. She was booths on the ground. You were doing the reporting as you do, and I was like, Wendy and Eddie had a trial dates or had a court day today, leave it to me to find out.

2:29 Speaker 2: And they were like, non, did you sit at the head court today? I said, yes, I already saw, thank you, yes, but that's kid to him. I also follow thanks so much. Shout out to my friends who were like, we all just have good taste.

2:40 Speaker 1: So I appreciate that. I really do. I mean, I'm a smaller page compared to the others. And it's so often that you guys could go to the shade room. I mean it does be most of their posts A.

2:54 Speaker 2: Mind so long, right, I about to say the problem is going to the shade room is like checking seeing in for validation. When Michael Jackson died, like that was pretty much what it was like TMZ reported it and we should have just took their word for it because it was like a solid hour and a half, like ninety minutes for seeing it to be like it is true. That's pretty much like today. I like, consider you like TMZ, like you and l y'all be in the true y'all know the stuff and the things that go on and whenever, like anybody else posted like a shade room or if they do like if it's worthy enough to catch up on them, then I'm like, oh.

3:35 Speaker 1: That's nice.

3:37 Speaker 2: That just appreciates what I said. So well.

3:43 Speaker 1: They had a hearing yesterday. It was very short. The hearing was only about five minutes long. I was, honestly, you know, Chantell shout out to her. She reached out to me to collaborate, and she said she would be boots on the ground and wanted to help grow her page. And this was, you know, this story she's following with Eddie and Wendy is huge for her and her you know, her growth. So I was going to happen to do it. I'm glad she chose me. But yeah, we coordinated and I set up you know, the link, like, all right, when you come out, here's the link we can join, we can get to it.

4:16 Speaker 1: She said, I'll text you soon. So I'm out, and I was thinking it was gonna be an hour or two hours or something like that. It was really like twenty minutes later. She was like, okay, I'm ready. I was like, what, But they're hearing yesterday apparently was to request to be tried together, so they no longer will be tried separately. And they were given a trial date, so their trial will be four days long. And what's the dates of the January twenty fifth through the twenty ninth.

4:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, January twenty seven. Yeah, so a long time from now,

4:54 Speaker 2: especially when you're awaiting this. I'm sure that does feel far oh way. Today, as we're recording this, it's Wendy's birthday and she's said it's also the start of Gemini season, and now so much is making sense. I don't think I knew that. I don't think that my wife is gonna kill me. What she hears is because she's a Gemini, but she's a June Gemini. I don't know if that means anything, but like I love Geminis, it just makes sense to me that she can't exists in two worlds. That Wendy is on Instagram like it's their birthday and yesterday she had court like yesterday about her trial.

5:32 Speaker 1: I kind of dig that, like, I mean, what could you do at this point? It's gonna be what it's gonna be. And if you asked me, yeah, And it's been a lot of back and forth, like everybody's saying, oh my god, they keep going back and forth. First they're supposed to be tried together. I think, you know first of all, and shout out to Teria What we Go podcast. She actually while we were doing the live yesterday, me and Chantell, she was there as well, and she saw one of Wendy's attorneys come out and she like tracked him down.

6:01 Speaker 1: She went live last night with cam Paia and talked about the conversation with the lawyer, And honestly, it seems like for the perception I got from what Terria was telling telling the followers is that, first of all, Wendy has a really good lawyer. I will say that, yes, she did not, you know, I was I was about to make a joke and say that she don't have Karen lawyer. But it wasn't even karen lawyer fault. It was Karen's fault, Karen one that wanted him to keep going.

6:31 Speaker 2: No exactly. The lawyer was like, take the plea, and Karen was like, I'm going to clear my name clear the name of doing it.

6:39 Speaker 1: Confused, So I can't even I can't even say that joke. But the lawyer seems confident that, you know, it's more of the prosecution kind of making this storyline of them as if the example that was used was saying, Hey, if I if I keep old credit cards all in a shoe box, I don't get rid of them. But if you find that, you might think that I'm a scammer too, or you you know, you could spin a story to make it seem like it's, uh, you know, something going on, But I don't know. This lawyer seems very confident that he's used to high profile cases.

7:18 Speaker 1: He loves a challenge, He understands the county that they're in and trying to make sure that it's a jury of Wendy's peers and he's looking forward to this. So maybe they know something. Well don't know, Miney, but he seems very very confident.

7:33 Speaker 2: Oh the problem is, I actually think that they it will be easy to find a jury of people that don't know where they are, even in this county. I think that the most aloof people to the fact that there is a Housewives franchise here are the people that live here. I've noticed that a lot there. Again, I've said it before. DC is such a serious place, and I know this is in Maryland and Rockville. There'll be in mcgarmoy County until they're sent up upward to the prisons, but like it's a serious area. Even when it's unserious, it's serious.

8:13 Speaker 2: People often move here and they're like, I was bored. It's boring, and I get that, but as someone who's lived here my whole life, I just accept that I'm boring as well. So that's just what it is. But that being said, there are people who are gonna just see what is presented in front of them, not know who these people are, and honestly might even be turned off by the fact that any of this is being alleged and done for reality TV, like it's the bane of their existence. Why because everywhere we go in the goddamn DNV there's no where to fucking park, So why are you bringing Cama Cruz to Befesda.

8:48 Speaker 2: I go to Bethesday at least once a week and it's probably my least favorite thing to do. I complain and bitch and moan about it the hallway. The traffic is terrible, the parking is terrible, and the man is sitting in the van waiting to give you a ticket when you literally had the parallel park in front of a meter for five seconds to run into a Paris big at and get Amacha, and he's like, I'm ready twenty five dollars ninety five dollars today, So I get why the people have a bone to pick around here.

9:18 Speaker 2: With that that being said, I really hope that somehow, like if people don't if the jury like I want to be called for jury duty for this so bad, but I'm so I actually feel like I could be a fair juror because I like Wendy a lot. I do, I've loved her as a housewife. However, what I'm reading and what I'm seeing, what the case that they have I am curious about and want to know more about why that happened. I could give a shit if I like you or not if you did the things you did the things like. I'm also good at calling a spade a spade.

9:52 Speaker 2: A scammer is a scammer, Like, Yes, I keep a lot of my credit cards with all of mine have my name on them. Yeahs than the last that my mama. Okay, even with me being married, my credit cards save my own name. About Mama gave me. You'll be hard pressed to convince anybody that I'm scamming somebody with my actual name and social security, you know what I'm saying, So things like that, I'd be like, I have a question, Like I love Wendy on the show, and I actually did not notice that the thing she was wearing was extravagant because her style still was not good, So I could give a shit I didn't make it didn't look palpable to me that she was scamming, like she was using scamming funds.

10:33 Speaker 2: It didn't seem that the funds increased, but the increased funds increased the things in her closet, okayn't It wasn't giving that to me. So I was like, Okay, I would love to know what evidence to say has against them, because I'm also like, okay, but Maryland, you're saying anything over three hundred dollars that is a low bar. Love, You're thinking everybody is a criminal and the email is concerning, But like, but did something come of the email? Like what was it? Like what ended up happening?

11:05 Speaker 2: And can you connect those two things like did she respond? You know what I mean? Like I'm not to listen to all of it and be like, Okay, so we need to figure out some hard truths here. But because of the truths that I have been hearing so far. I do still think that they might do prison time. And that's it, respectfully, I love Wendy.

11:23 Speaker 1: I yes, they're facing up to fifteen years and it's a lot good. It's the emails sent versus right, what were the responses. It's the reporting of items that you still allegedly have in your possession that you said was stolen. It's also, yeah, it's a lot that they have to connect the dots. I will tell you this Thatteria also let us know from you know, looking at the court documents. I went to look at it as well that since they last had a hearing, there's been three more discoveries turned in and May alone, so prosecution is working over time they've found you.

12:04 Speaker 2: Know, you know they help.

12:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, they have more discoveries they've turned in, which made That's what led me to say, Okay, there's no wonder this trial is already in January. On top of the fact that they're now being tried together. Maybe they think there's unity and number.

12:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, they think that, but it sounds like it's easier to send two away, like it's going to be harder to split up who did what?

12:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, because we remember when everybody is sentenced. Wendy, she didn't wave her right to a speedy trial. I really thought when they went to trial, or when they started the court here and yesterday was going to be her trial, and I remember and we were thinking that Eddie, he didn't wave his right for a speedy trial. He wanted the sixty days to go through the evidence. And now there in the last month, prosecution's turning in more discoveries, more evidence. They have also put in a request for copies of things.

12:59 Speaker 1: So now they're being tried together and we're pushed back to twenty twenty seven. Yeah, I prid to me is kind of like I think the Yeah, the lawyer was so confident and what he spoke to Terre about it made me be like, all right.

13:15 Speaker 2: Well maybe they got something or the lawyer, I do need him to be confident if he's being paid and that's the job. If my wife is hanging in the balance, I needed you to be fucking confident. I'm gonna need you to sell it even if it's unsellable. To me, it sounds like they just got a great defense attorney, and I think that he's gonna be telling us he's confident and they might head to trial, but I also think that they might be they want time for a plea.

13:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Kempeire said this too, that you know, there's two things that really are a fact that it's the jury and your lawyer that's gonna really make So.

13:47 Speaker 2: Is it definite already that they're doing I don't know. I actually don't know enough about Maryland state, like does it have to be a jury trial or can they have a bench trial?

13:56 Speaker 1: Well, they're having I don't know the laws, but this will be a jury trial, jury selected, the trial hearing. The trial hearing is very close to the case except for January thirteenth.

14:08 Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, so things are gonna get damn. They're like, okay, we'll get through the hot We'll let y'all have the holiday. That's what I said.

14:15 Speaker 1: We're gonna, They're gonna, they're gonna do it like and it count out.

14:18 Speaker 2: Save every receipt for every Christmas gift given.

14:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, So we'll keep checking the site from here and then to see if there's any more discoveries. What else is turned out? What else are they requesting? But yeah, I mean, Wendy looked she didn't look happy, of course, but you know they came in fly. She had the huge white door bag, she was dressed in all yellow with her Sonny's on and Eddie. You know, they were together holding hands, unified front. So we'll see what happens. I just can I would want to get it over with, but it also me too, I do know, you know a little bit to the the cameras were filming yesterday at the hearing.

15:04 Speaker 1: They were that. I mean, they didn't go inside the court room, but they were there. I know some of the content creators that were there were told they had to sign a waiver. So it's definitely being filmed. But by time they go to court for real, for real trial, Potomac could already be aired, you know. So I think we're gonna have a hand, We're gonna have a pick up the cameras moment. We're gonna have a Andy get the camera moment.

15:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Andy and a camera. I also wonder if factored into the length of until when the trial is they want that season to air prosecution at least like again, I think so to just enough. If you think about any of the reality TV people that have gone to jail done time. Every single one it has been something incriminating on the show that they have said and done in the real time of when they were support supposed to be whatever. That also does them in It is a factor. Can't you say you're honor that was before, that was last season or whatever.

16:06 Speaker 2: But you know, Wendy has had now a reunion since she's been arrested, and now a whole season and another reunion before the trial before they even pick a jury. That will also give a lot of people time. They'll have to find a jury that it's not like news because when that happens, it will be news. If he says or does anything, it will be on Fox five DC. And you bet your ass Ashley Darby probably gonna be there too.

16:32 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was you know they talk about and there are some rumors circulating that Wendy stopped filming for a short period, Yeah, because allegedly Giselle caught her and a lie about her, you know, her case and her insurance fraud allegations and.

16:53 Speaker 2: At all, how could she how could she catch you with something you not bringing up because any good lawyer will tell you don't fat you're doing charity work all season love. Okay, you're a soup kitchens. Okay, you're at the hungry, you're at the shelters. You're being and you're being like you're going there humbly. You're going on the metro. Actually, matter of fucking fat, you're getting on the metro. We don't want to see no extravagant cars. I don't want to see no driver. I don't want to see no nice suits.

17:22 Speaker 2: I want that wig that you got arrested in your your Bravo con wig or culture con wig. I want your Brava con wig on and I want you serving people and telling and bringing the ladies to help you do good in the world. And you all at home don't have no custom, nothing, no coultur, nothing shocked like us, if.

17:42 Speaker 1: Not the ring. We don't put the rings on that they said you okay and said it was stolen, none of it.

17:48 Speaker 2: Now you forget, like why wouldn't you. Also, I need you all to be better liars. And that's the reason why Gazelle caught you because I think I said this when they first got called, and I was like, I need you all to be better liars. One pillow talk should never be done. Your email period. You don't do nefarious crimes at all over the interwebs. You don't even put what you really cash up in somebody for on the interwebs. You use emojis, you use coats. Why would you put it in an email? So I needed to get a little smarter.

18:14 Speaker 2: And you love together. We talked about together in the closet real quick. Oh, let me do that while I cut the chicken cook in the clouse and see what else we could put it in there, and then put it all in the ground, bury it underground till you get the moneys bury it. I'm dead ass, I'm like, why would you heat the stolen stuff even around?

18:41 Speaker 1: And they go through all of this and money they didn't even get the money from most of these insurance money.

18:46 Speaker 2: They didn't And they go to all Fifth Avenue sets anyway, they're still not shopping whole sale, Still no stylists. Still, that's why she's dressing still like a lady with new money. But it looked like rushed new money, like you're trying to sell it for herself. The problem is is potomacs. So we never noticed because they all dressed terribly well.

19:03 Speaker 1: I pray all renovations are done. I don't want to see nothing else be renovated in the upcoming season.

19:10 Speaker 2: I don't know what her story one could be other than getting ready for this trial. And again, I don't know if you're.

19:15 Speaker 1: Not push, pushing, happy Eddy all.

19:18 Speaker 2: I want to see you doing kitchens and getting people high. That's it. No other no other things happen, like look at me, look at me. I'm hello, here you go. Here's a pillow for you, a joint. I want you to feel better, that's all I want to see ye Like I'm just so confused, Like y'all need to y'all need to tighten up, tighten up.

19:43 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't want to see your mama because your mama she ain't gonna help decision the problem.

19:49 Speaker 2: She probably going five thousand dollars monthly allowance. I guess we're gonna have to stay. I don't know that that's prosecution is waiting for a second reunion to have more ammunition. And if y'all are like me, and y'all recently watched The Crash on Netflix, that true crime documentary with that girl, that young girl who was a murderer, and that is just plain and goddamn simple. I don't know why they let that girl sit down and talk to Netflix. Netflix is really pissing me off with the way that I feel that they are moving all production.

20:24 Speaker 2: I'm just seeing some signs of some alliances, and I don't like what I'm seeing. If y'all know what I'm talking about, you see it too and reach out to me. I'm just seeing things right. But they will use your shit in court as often as like she posted that after we just got out of here your honor like yesterday, So Wendy, be careful. All I'm saying, they will put it up there and be like Judge.

20:50 Speaker 1: I gonna hold you. Even with her birthday posted that.

20:53 Speaker 2: I was like, ayy, I'm looking at designer, don't.

20:57 Speaker 1: Do Let's let's celebrate offline. Can we do that just.

21:01 Speaker 2: Ing or maybe like make it about your family, like, just do something out, make it human. A cake or a cupcake that your son decorated looks real poor, you know, like real homemade, real basic, real unhousewives, be like I'm just grateful hashtag grateful and birthday.

21:19 Speaker 1: You know, you know, part of me thinks that she wants to portray that she's not guilty and doesn't want to change her lifestyla of or what she portrays online because then she feels and that's an omssion of being guilty. So she wants to keep up this. That's what I think she's going That's true Gemini thought process. That's what I keep up because this is just like, Yeah, that's what I think we're going for. Maybe that's your crisis, Peto.

21:53 Speaker 2: That's not the truth. I don't think that at all. I think they're posting a cupcake that your kids made. You would make a judge be like, oh, we shouldn't send her to jail. She's got kids, like a baby at home, like babies, teenagers that can see this. Posting you in a post and not about your kids, not about your family, not about how grateful you actually are to have your freedom until January of twenty twenty seven. Not the best of looks. It just feels like you prioritize people thinking that you still have this lavish lifestyle.

22:23 Speaker 2: Yeah.

22:23 Speaker 1: I agree, we'll see, we'll see where. But I think, yeah, she's with a crisis. Pr she should hire us, clearly.

22:33 Speaker 2: Okay, seriously, I wonder what I could do. Speaking of reunions. I wonder what I could do, and I almost want to take on If I was going to be a crisis pr team firm, I'd want to take on them Caucasian Summer House people. I think I do, because they're so hateable that it's like you almost like, Okay, y'all are moving in the wrong direction. Do you understand this isn't good? And this reunion trailer that Summerhouse put out was chilling because I don't know how I'm gonna actually get through the reunion because the trailer alone, which felt soft.

23:12 Speaker 2: I'm also still really glad right now that they did that those leaks did happen, because it still feels like we're gonna give that girl way too much, honestly rope to hang herself with in this point, like it just feels like, don't don't edit this to be like it's a fair fight at all. It should be the crucifixion that it is, because they need to know that actions have consequences, because it just seems like they're logic in their way of thinking is not it's not making sense. It wasn't making sense.

23:45 Speaker 2: What did you think when you saw that was like a ninety second Summerhouse trailer, probably the most interesting summerhouse trailer I've ever seen in my life. They're not beating this one.

23:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I kind of felt the same seeing that that. I was happy to hear the leaks because I'm not confident we would hear that tone from Amanda that because I didn't see that same tone in the trailer. In the leaked audio, Amanda seems unapologetic, not remorseful, angry, as if she's had yeah exactly, like she has an attitude with Siattles as yes, somebody owes her something. And then in the trailer we see crying and walking off and needing a moment, and I just.

24:35 Speaker 2: It is well because he said he was with you just to spite you, which one I believe if Wes was as good of enough of a person that Sierra thinks that he might have been or could have been. I don't think he even thinks of Amanda. I really don't. I don't think he thinks of Amanda. I don't think he thinks of Sierra. I don't think he thinks of anyone but himself, especially now seeing a lot of these clips coming from like previous seasons or when like or when Page was getting on him because he was talking about how apparently you go back to season I think eight Page was getting into Wes's ass because he was talking about how Carl and Lindsay's tumultuous fall apart of their engagement was quote unquote gonna be the best season ever for them.

25:21 Speaker 2: This is the best thing ever. And Page was basically getting on him, like, we live our real lives and the camera is there. We don't really live our real lives because the camera is there and it just feels like you do that, and it does feel like in this instance, I can't figure out what he would get out of being with Amanda, except for until I saw the end episode. The end of this episode where he kisses Sierra again and this man is a producer. I just think that he's a narcissist, but in a soft way because he doesn't say a lot and he goofy funny looking goofy fun showed it to cry on.

25:58 Speaker 2: But he's a shoulder to crime on. Strategically, he has no respect for any person or relationship or anybody at all, never should because it started from the beginning, like there is now y'all finding things from September of twenty twenty five of her and him practically on a date, and it's just giving. I think that if anything, he is there to both spight Sierra, yes, but to spite her because she is one of the most popular people on that show, and this makes him talk be talked about. I think he operates from a WWE perspective that even the is like good enough, Like you get fans and you get stuff, so you.

26:44 Speaker 1: Know what, I don't even want to give Wes that much credit. I don't even see him as any type of mastermind producer. To me, he's just soften a dufist. I think that he prior to this show, no way on earth was he pulling any baddies at the level of Sierra ever in his life. And I just think that, yeah, like on this show, he's got some fame, he gets some trimmed the ladies hollering at him, and he falls into a fantasy of being with a Sierra or having this thing with Amanda. But when it gets serious or they actually want to be in a relationship or him be you know, in something more than just hooking up and making out, then he runs scared, like he's a little boy.

27:41 Speaker 1: He's not a man, and what we're watching, I don't even think he has any mastermind capabilities in him, Like he just not grown. He doesn't know how to do a woman and being in a relationship.

27:58 Speaker 2: He's definitely there. They both match lazy tones, Amanda and West, and I think that's something that they have in common, a deep laziness and lack of fulfillment internally. But I do think Wes is interested in promoting his own agenda. I think that for whatever reason, he was jealous or run scared of Sierra. I do think Grace plays a component in it. Y'all don't want to hear that, so I won't go on a diet tribe about it, but it does. It's the truth. I think he resented that lady. It happens, he would better, but not the mint to her resented her.

28:31 Speaker 2: I do. I think it would be too much for him and she would outshine him. He needs to be with somebody who ain't gonna do that, But he refuses to shine more so he can't. He can't do any more for himself than he's already doing. He was laid off at Bleacher Report. That's I don't know as being social media like in video producers. So I don't know how unmotivated he could be, but they too, They both seem to match unmotivation to me. And I think he resented all that Sierra had, like and her ambitions, like that's what I mean, Like she's ambitious, she's absolutely stunning.

29:08 Speaker 2: She was interested in him. That shook him up a little bit because like that's not something I expected. And I do think he's with Amanda to spite Sierra in multiple ways, not just like because it's like, well, she's like less complicated, you know what I mean. And as black women, we often have to apologize for being over like we're often asked to or seen to. We don't have to apologize for being too much of a good thing twice as good. We make white women feel uncomfortable, we make white men feel emasculated, like or we're because we're amazing, or we have to push harder in order to even be accepted in this world for practically anything, just to take up space most of the time, let alone for any accomplishments that we have may have earned or worked for.

29:59 Speaker 2: And I think that wes so insecure. Amanda's so insecure, she can't even be this lady's friend, Like, she can't even be this lady's friend. Although she play a good one, y'all, y'all see it, she's playing it all season, all years. But Sierra did nothing to her, And that's how you know it's insecurity for the both of them. She did nothing to neither of them, and they did this to her, And that's weird, Like give one of colleens if you hate her that bad, if you hate them that bad.

30:25 Speaker 1: Watching every episode, watching Sierra be such a good friend, so supportive, so motivated, especially right in this nowly episode when she's literally packing Amanda up, when Amanda don't even believe in herself or thinks she's good enough for anybody, and she's picking you up. And that's how you choose to repay her. I'll be ready to take my earrings off money watching.

30:52 Speaker 2: And I wonder if it was at that point being like swallowing, like I can't tell her now because like because she felt entitled to that good friendship because she was going through it, you know what I mean. It wasn't like I didn't tell her because I wanted to betray her the act. It was like she was like being a I needed her and I needed the entitlement that this lady has is so bananaous to me. And that's what I heard in them leaked audios, which is why I'm glad all three of them came out, because I was like, oh, you feel entitled to understanding grace this girl's ex boyfriend, and understanding about it from her and everybody else when you know you in the room because nobody knew about it.

31:30 Speaker 2: You got Jesse over here fucking sobbing because he's like, you got me out here looking crazy. I was in the householl time what like people are And when West doesn't get up to walk after her, I said, oh, naw, you both look stupid. I'm almost like, hot take you almost have to be in game. I'm sorry you have to because y'all look so damn dumb to blow up everything for this.

31:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's because he don't know. The little boy and him don't know what's right and what's wrong. He's worried about public opinion and so he don't know does he look Is it better for him to sit there or is it better for him to run after her? He's a little boy, He's.

32:14 Speaker 2: A well, Lindsay tried to learn him that day. She said, be a man, get up and go after her, like go Seeerry even said you should go after your girl like you did this to be with her. Go be with her. I don't understand.

32:29 Speaker 1: Handle that at this point. Get married. Thank you.

32:33 Speaker 2: I'm like, it's not that I condone it or even believe in their love. Y'are like, I don't think they'll last. I kind of need them to because otherwise the amount of a level of insecure when for you to do all of this, it better be worth ships and everything. I need y'all to be so in love by the end of this. Y'all need to be solid. I need six kids and make.

32:58 Speaker 1: It to say, yeah, you.

33:04 Speaker 2: Better have it all. You just look foolish this trailer, with how soft of an edit they gave her, still they don't look good. And with all of you guys pausing these finales, zooming in, scrolling back, slowing it down to watch Amanda get caught up. Her and West literally separate like they just got caught by the principal. West throws his head around and the man is clutching her face when they hear Sierra come behind them. Which is crazy to me because you felt comfortable hugging another man's wife that way.

33:39 Speaker 2: I don't care how separated they are, which only you would know, apparently because y'all are doing it, Like what is going on? Because what do you mean you're kissing her head and talking into her head? Did that not screen boyfriend to people that screen boyfriends? To me? But I'm like, oh, Sierra would have been the least of should have been the least of your word. This is a married woman. You feelable doing that? Lets me know it's all a fair.

34:05 Speaker 1: It's still a married woman. She's still oh fuck, you're right, still married. We're going through all of this, we're seeing them out and about.

34:17 Speaker 2: Feel married at this point. Remember when she was like, I'm still a married woman. So Andy asked, can you Moore? Are you dating? It's been like a year that that man was abusive, terrible mean, She was like, I'm a married woman, Cay Michelle won't shut up about being married, but a man paper we can't even find it because I found out a way while I was hot. She makes Stoner's looks so bad, so bad, it's really not given. So I encourage yall if you didn't hear the audio leaks. Maybe do that before watching this reunion, because I'm having these same kind of experiences whenever I watch like a true crime documentary, Nature Boy, or The Crash where you didn't go see real the rest of it, the uncut stuff, the stuff that didn't make it to air because of pallidability, and you're like, oh, wait a minute, I don't have all the information, so don't get that information.

35:12 Speaker 2: Babes. I really do think you should do that because and we'll we'll be talking about it and we will be reporting on it. But that reunion, it's coming out next week. That finale just air the Summerhow God bless us. It's been a season. My heart has been breaking with every episode.

35:29 Speaker 1: So chill, half sad, half ready to ride to New York and pull my earrings off. That's how I've been feeling, Like.

35:39 Speaker 2: No, seriously, and y'all are going to have to really get me hard to watch in the city. It can't afford my eyes right now. It just can't. That I try, I can get I'm just gonna hate her more.

35:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched the first episode.

36:00 Speaker 2: It was a nice transition.

36:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, I need to I do need to digest this reunion and stuff first. I feel like I wish they would have waited until after the reunion to give it to us, because I'm like trying to go into that after seeing that finale was a lot soon.

36:18 Speaker 2: They can't risk the ratings of people hating Amanda and not liking Kyle from to begin with and having less of a boy in after the reunion. They'd be like starting to show with you know, putting Tom Schwartz or somebody on the valley the moment after, you know, the Band upon Rules reunion aired, after the whole raquel thing, They're like, oh, we hit you right now. We can't do that.

36:41 Speaker 1: We gotta remember I kind of get some initial ratings first, since Okay, I get it, they want to get the rains off the back of somebody like some of the other people. I'm more so interested in this this speef between Danielle and Hubber Lindsey. I'm that seems interesting more than watching Amanda playing Carl face and cry and demand her her separation and moving separately. Like, girl, in my mind, you was already dingly this party your plot. Girl, I don't want to hear it.

37:18 Speaker 2: Just okay, you know, I don't want to hear it. You're alive and a cheater, and I don't like you, and I'm glad. I'm glad you both expelled yourselves from Sierra's life. I really am, because she was never gonna do it, and I love my girl. Her own fatal flaw as a beautiful baddie is that she got the worst picker apparently in men and friends. She needs a better white person picker. I have a good one. I'm willing to lend mine out. All my whites are good, they're in order, they are wonderful people. I trust them with my black children that I might have one day and my black self.

37:52 Speaker 2: I call them if I'm being like followed by the cops, if you are not the white friend that your black friend can call to be like, can you just be on the phone with me? Does copas behind me for a mile and a half, then you need to do better. Don't be an Amanda. I feel like I'm just gonna be remind people every day. Please don't be in Amanda. It's worse than a caring y'all. It's worse. Ye that heart a lie to herself too, and told her something.

38:14 Speaker 1: It's pain stuff like this. This stuff like this just makes me sometimes like because my circle by that's small. I really only so yeah, it really is, it really is. In periods stuff like this, sometimes I do feel bad saying, you know what, I don't have a lot of friends, Like I don't throw birthday party. Who's really good?

38:37 Speaker 2: Right, right?

38:38 Speaker 1: But this stuff like this happened and be like, never mind, this is more's plenty of us, you know what I mean?

38:44 Speaker 2: Hey, because Sierra through a thirtieth birthday party and West came and they talked, and now that is now etched in her memory of her thirtieth and I'm glad. I can't say that, right, So shout out to how it is lessons learned and people getting kicking themselves out of your life in your thirty Sierra CC. You're gonna be alright, Amanda. I hope you're not moving on, did you? Also? Speaking of reunions, I thought it was kind of early to be seeing a Rhode Island reunion seating chart, but apparently that came out today and they have already filmed the reunions.

39:21 Speaker 1: So yeah, they're filming today. Yeah, they're all filming. They're filming the reunion today, this seems to be a short season to.

39:31 Speaker 2: Be it really got the new jersey because.

39:33 Speaker 1: We already, yeah, we already have a mid season trailer. We already seen a mid season trailer almost two weeks ago. Now, yeah, already filming the reunion. I don't think it's gonna be as long as our other Housewives seasons. I am at first, I was confused by the charge. I honestly did expect to see Rula and Joe Ellen at first seats. But I do think looking at what's to come, even in the episode on Sunday, there's something going on between Alisha and Liz, and I think that's what pushes them to the front seat.

40:14 Speaker 1: I think it's more for us to see to understand the seating, and.

40:18 Speaker 2: That really shocked me, especially for how long they've known each other. I wonder how much of it also has to do with, you know, what seems to be brewing between Liz and Alisha, of they had very different backgrounds, and so even though they grew up together and they have different understandings of those backgrounds, and Liz you know, quote unquote minimizing Alicia's experience and her trauma and saying you were never homeless because she wasn't freaking living in an actual box. But again, like I've said it before my show, to a child having a home and then saying we're gonna go to my grandparents' house for a weekend and then you never return to your their home is fucking traumatic.

41:01 Speaker 2: Like that would be something that they would have to work out in therapy when they get older, and they would be like stunded like for a minute, and their childhood. I know because it makes it to me. It makes it to my desk as a third grade teacher. I hear these things. I hear the traumas out loud, going oh wow, those parents made a decision that was probably so hard and what was they needed to do as adults. But that child has no understanding of that, what so ever, no understanding of that. They can't have the emotional bandwidth, the understanding of the complexities of the world or any of that.

41:36 Speaker 2: All they know is Bunny is at that house and I'm no longer at that house with Bunny, damn, and that's it. So her minimizing that, I also wonder how that is going to play out. And then yeah, so there's a lot of sides to be taken. Now we're seeing clips of Rosie v. Kelse Goddamn that was wild and Joe Ellen and like, there's there's sides to be taking. What did you think about that fight with Rosie and Kelsey Kelsey.

42:11 Speaker 1: It may be unpopular opinion, but I like Rosie. The only thing that I don't like about Rosie is and I felt like, finally we got it in this last episode. She's funny, witty, shady in her confessionals, and you know how I feel about that money.

42:26 Speaker 2: You know, I have a professional that. Yeah, you have to bring that.

42:30 Speaker 1: Energy in their face. So it was just like when she said Kelsey is a high end a squatter, you know that was funny to me when she is. You know, she's funny in her confessionals. You gotta bring that same energy when you get in their face. You can't cry every single time. Like, if you're gonna be nosy and questioning in their lives and asking people and all of that, then stand on that.

42:53 Speaker 2: So in this.

42:54 Speaker 1: Episode, when she stood up for herself and said, you know I'm on this D where you at huh your D that well, her.

43:01 Speaker 2: Name is not even your name, is it on ship, not a thousand square feet, not eleven thousand, not one hundred nothing.

43:07 Speaker 1: So for her to finally bring that, yeah, I was like, you.

43:13 Speaker 2: Won that title because of your boyfriend hit her to the car. Oh that really got Telsy's dope. She walked back in and said he want that title, fair and square.

43:23 Speaker 1: She did. I'm all on the internet.

43:25 Speaker 2: Put a prostitute, but she.

43:28 Speaker 1: Put her face on the pig and her on her Instagram, on her Instagram and stuff like that, so that really got her to her core. So I agree, I mean unpopular opinion and pining. I see a lot of pages, especially those that are dedicated to Rhode Island, don't really care for Rosie. I like a potstar. I just like a potsta that stand on it. And you know, and get me that Ashley Vibe.

43:50 Speaker 2: Actually Joe Jo pods store. She's been bringing this lady's affair to the to the to the screen every chance she gets. But she brings it to the feast.

43:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I understand that. I understand that from Joe oiling like gloves are off. You called her job and tried to get her fired. You tried to take money out of her mouth and food off her kids table all best of off. Let's let's get to I'm going to Yeah, you got caught.

44:16 Speaker 2: Oh She's like, oh you want to proof. Oh you think it's a line you want to say. I'm okay, let's go ahead.

44:23 Speaker 1: And do that. So let's take it. Let's take it to hell then. So I'm cool with that. I like get I don't dislike Kelsey because I like Rosie. Though I like Kelsey. I love I loved her lifestyle, you know. I love the idea of someone not being in the Manchester.

44:44 Speaker 2: Is honest about how they broke up beforehand, because.

44:47 Speaker 1: I thought, now, I'm just confused by I thought that.

44:50 Speaker 2: I was like, well, she needed a place to film and she didn't have a home. I really don't. I think she was maybe living with mom or something. She was waiting for the show to co through, or if it was gonna come through when she applied, or when there was an idea and it was a concept. They might have been together, but tom change, things changed. She was nearing thirty, so she was like, I've got to get out of that. Probably started dating someone else, but has a good relationship with her ex. Like it seems it's clear to me that she can be like, hey, weird.

45:22 Speaker 2: So you know how we applied for that show watching Beverly Hills together, right, So they did call me, but I don't have a fucking home and he's like, oh, yeah, well, I'm in Miami this part of the year. You can use it. Go ahead and tell Hilda that you're there. And I really believe that. In exactly, tell Hilda she gonna be there for a little bit and you're just gonna film and it'll be fine. And then like she's like okay, but I can't do it all year. And when he decided he needed to come back, he was like, okay, we need a long term solution though, So because I'm not gonna film and I do have a girlfriend or whatever, so we need to find you a place.

45:57 Speaker 2: So find something and I'll cover it. Will until you get quote unquote on your feet aka when you get paid after you appear at the reunion. You don't get the full check to the season over.

46:09 Speaker 1: And I'm cool with that. Yeah, but you did sell me a fantasy. Kelsey. I was like, man, that's gone six months out of the year. This sounds like a dream. Don't you ever leave girl? And here we are, but I don't even care. I don't care. They're so messy. Their lives and dynamics is so wild. Bring it on, bring it on, it all, here for it.

46:32 Speaker 2: I love. The Ruler was like, I'm only sad that I missed it because I do love going to Newport. And now I'm like, I need to go to Newport. It's lovely. So I guess we're all going to Rhode Island to go have march.

46:45 Speaker 1: I really do, I really want to go.

46:47 Speaker 2: I want to can we do this?

46:49 Speaker 1: Yeah? I want to go to Mama's Pizza. Oh that's pizza, Mama's pizza.

46:55 Speaker 2: Mama.

46:55 Speaker 1: I can't.

46:57 Speaker 2: Say you want Mama is my baby.

47:00 Speaker 1: I want to try a pizza chip.

47:02 Speaker 2: I want to. I do want to try a pizza chip. Goddamn it, I do. I want to go to trivia night at that bar that asked you's husband owns for no fucking reason. I'm not even gonna lie. I was happy to see Ashley recently like in her confessionals, being a little bit not too status quo with her husband, be like, I actually have no idea. Why to hell he decided to open this barroll We got all these small kids and you make a ton of money from just like recording in our home. But you know those men, look at the seagulls normal wise, they just love to work for whatever reason.

47:34 Speaker 2: If y'all become Connor, y'all need to clock in like Connor Whitneys. Connor has Connor husband for the win. He said, I don't need a high end job. It's actually fine. You're doing great. How can I support you making six hundred thousand dollars a year?

47:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, he got Whitney husband. Now he gets his own gigs. He's show Okay, he's on shows.

48:03 Speaker 2: Hello, He's like, look at me, Wow, look at me. So Jerry, I don't know why, but I would if I were you, I would do TikTok dances and let your wife talk about diapers and call it. I don't mean running a restaurant in Rhode Island sounds hell on earth. Those people seem very high standards, and I can't wait to find out because now I'm actually serious. I'm we're gonna have to plan all of us meeting in the middle, because I think that is the middle. We'll get the girlies together. I'm talking Elle Tapsteria, come up Philly, diva.

48:35 Speaker 2: Mark is in Delaware and like, well, all you know how much I love New Jersey, so I'll be I'm in Jersey's.

48:42 Speaker 1: Coordinate ire that. I'm sure the housewives would be more than accommodating for us if we can.

48:48 Speaker 2: I think so too, And you know, I'm going to Listen's dispensary. All she needs to know is I puff puff on a regular and I'm cool with her being high on her confessionals. She could just blink twice if that's what's happening, because you know, I know when it's happening, Like.

49:00 Speaker 1: Hi, Hi, hold you mind watching her and watching Listen Dolores. I was like, I ain't even in Mining Paul's, but they look like they have such a good time.

49:10 Speaker 2: They are so the ones that apparently they're releasing to the public. Mark Dead. Let us know that, like they'll not have a lot of cannabis and it'll be like all the other hormones and stuff. But what they tried was deaf press. I was like, well, because I don't I'm not a you know, I'm not. I was about to say I'm not an expert, but actually i am. I've talked about it before, I have my bud tender license. I am a licensed to bud tender in a in a state. I want to tell you what state. Yes, I am. It's still active.

49:42 Speaker 2: So I've done my I've done my homework, you can say, to get my license. And used to work in a dispensary. And so there are certain parts of the THC plant and there are certain parts of the stems you can use the stems of cannabis. So if you're not a smoker, if you know someone that is, give them the butt, have them keep like, give you the stems. You boil the stems in water and it's just CBD. It doesn't do has no THHD effects, but it can really be great in a tea boil with stems and water strain it.

50:15 Speaker 2: Add your favorite tea to it, your teacup to it can really help with hot flashes, can really help with sleep if you are having sleep problems during menopause. I you know, my mama don't like me talking about her intake, but she retired, so she's gonna have to let it go. So because she be like, what if they find out and they revoke my retirement. Also, she lives in a state where it's complete legal So calm down, lady. But my mom swore by it during her years and still does likes me to do it. I just go in the house now and I just see some stems to go other.

50:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought you could make it for me. I thought you could just do it. And I'm like, oh, okay, yeah, sure lady, So anything for her. So I did seem like they were having a good time. So I'm down for us going having our martinis, going to the dispensary, having some seafood, maybe seeing Brian's husband Brian out in the bouts which women's with. We don't know, going to Brian Hunt, you know, like is he at the gym?

51:09 Speaker 1: Like does he look like he goes to the gym?

51:13 Speaker 2: No? I was with Joel was like, I mean, and I was like, I'm saying, she said in.

51:18 Speaker 1: This last episode money, I wanted him. I never wanted someone to be quiet so badly at that dinner table. And I'm saying, bro, you talking about you take o Zimpic, Michael Dough, you don't go to the gym?

51:31 Speaker 2: That was crazy crazy.

51:35 Speaker 1: Did he admit to over serving Rula on their first day to get her to like him?

51:40 Speaker 2: Like prop and all he did then say mission, it seemed like it works.

51:46 Speaker 1: Mission accomplished. I gotta go to the bathroom. I mean I gotta go take a phone call.

51:50 Speaker 2: And then he comes back, Sorry, that was work. You forgot your own lie? Oh no, you can't tell that lady were I bet you. He tails her. We're filming and she's like mad, and so she like blows his phone up to be like I will fucking expose you if you don't take this call.

52:08 Speaker 1: Yes, not to mention you're talking about you. You have ozempic and botox at your practice, not as if we don't know. The mistress is the one that's running that part of the business, the one that you gave part ownership too that is now cont suing you for your defamation lawsuit. She's the one that runs the skincare and stuff out of the practice.

52:30 Speaker 2: Bro, what are you also? I was kind of like it was wild. I guess so my wife being a chiropractor not the same at all, which is like why I needed to understand. I was like, please explain to me how he's prescribing people ozempic as a podiatrist. What's like, wait, what again? I give it to my patients. I give this to my patients and I take it too. I just write it for my Should you be admitting all of this?

52:56 Speaker 1: I don't think so.

52:57 Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey. Not a good idea too, uh. Micro dosing ozimpic because you have it for your patients as crazy what podiatrist. But she did explain to me that they might if people have a flat foot problem because of weight and weight and needing help with weight loss because it is hurting their feeding and cause like pantopasciitis and stuff, he might be able or like licensed to prescribe that o zimpic. But I was like, please, don't be getting your zipping from Brian, right, but I need you to see somebody else when you're starting a gop one, see a real girl, an r in a D and P and end of phrenologists, a physician, somebody.

53:44 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I don't even want to go dow him for the orthopedic, go to foot care.

53:48 Speaker 2: I know. Not the way he was talking about how he compared my foot to a steak. Yeah, yeah, since I've been slicing it. Oh you just out here slice you love, Oh.

53:57 Speaker 1: God, you keep it moving. Thank you.

54:02 Speaker 2: I can't imagine his practice or whatever is doing well now. I just don't think this was a good move for him or his family. Do that come back next season? What do you think? Yes or no?

54:12 Speaker 1: Absolutely? I think they continue to come back. I think that we need this mistress to film. I needed all the mess I am here for all things messy. We know they've been renewed. We already know that from the NBC.

54:28 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, only had a non season episode or nine episode season. The hell y'all talking about three more episodes left?

54:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we do know that, and yeah, I think they all return. Listen, I'm gonna be honest, Alicia, You're gonna have to step up since you, I mean, you tried so much. She don't she don't hurt or harm, but she's not bringing enough to the table.

54:56 Speaker 2: And I mean there is enough there for me to be invested because once she's hilarious, she's our person who says the stuff that is so fucking weird and crazy because Ashley. That's how I feel about Ashley. I I don't see it. I don't get it. She's not saying nothing that makes me think about her memorable. I'm not quoting her every day I don't find her to be any kind of personality. Alisha at least has a personality. Ashley, I was trying to rehab her crazy ass personality and now it's like course correcting to be too normal Alicha Cashley just told us that she ran over somebody with a car and now she's like having panic attacks and eating craps.

55:32 Speaker 1: Yeah, did I say Alicia. No, Absolutely want Alicia backed Ashley. If I said Alisha, okay, you know it's Ashley the same Ashley I missed social media girly, that's who I'm like.

55:44 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, because of her bachelor past of being kind of crazy and over emote, still over emotional. She's been crying since we met her. Since then, I do need her to step it up or send time because Alisha and the rest of the girls are ringing so much.

56:01 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, And if I find her mom, I can rely apologize. Yes, definitely need Alicia back. I'm good with the cast coming back as is, but the one for me is actually that doesn't sway me one way or the other. But the rest absolutely need back, especially Alisha. I need more time fold with this man she's online. Yah. Hypothetical questions about should the man have all the all your money and you don't know how well.

56:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess her first Bravo paycheck or something came through and she poasted a real like cryptic all black screen. She was hot, you know. She just put it up there, put the camera to her lap, didn't even find no pictures or no fancy words. She just says, should Is it weird? Like if you don't even see your paycheck and it will all went to quote unquote bills, which crazy? Why does her check need to go to bills if you already was covering everything and she ain't had no money, right, I don't understand that at all.

56:58 Speaker 2: I thought you was handling and that this should be her pocket money, like her little spending change. It's giving control. I don't like that. I'm scared. I run, Yeah, run girl.

57:09 Speaker 1: And in that same ig story thread where she was posting these hypothetical questions, she then posted a huge empty closet and she was there with her daughter and she was like, yeah, I can't wait to fill this bitch up. And I'm like, did you move or what is happening? Did she become an independent woman? What's happening?

57:28 Speaker 2: What's happening. I need to know. I need to know. I love Alisha's so much and I want to know if it's a also where they are today, lives in her, in her wherever are moving out or whatever she's going through, does that play into the reunion in their seating, you know what I mean? So that support that she has for one another, especially if Alicia feels like she's on eggshells. But Alicia's also now seen that she shouldn't be and that she is a fan favorite, and that I'm curious to see what that second season looks like for her her fingers crossed.

58:01 Speaker 2: It's a good one still, because y'all know how a fan favorite gets. You know that second season is tough when y'all love him too much.

58:08 Speaker 1: But God, I pray Alicia gets no pr no help. No. I pray she stays exactly unfiltered this whole accent.

58:19 Speaker 2: Never see a pr person, Yeah, never. I love it when they do an interview as a whole cast and Kelsey was talking and everything. I'm like, you have an India about your boyfriend and you were like, yeah, we used to watch it in bad all the time and he loves the show. We used to still watch it together. Oh oh, I love it when they talk talk Yes, so no, pr let these ladies step free. I really am upset that we're not getting a thirty episode season, so y'all gonna have to run that second season real quick, real quick.

58:50 Speaker 2: Another woman and the last thing one to bring up with you that I definitely feel like she could run away. But you reported that Danny Buco from the was going to be benched on Watch What Happens Live this week? And I know I don't normally cover the valley because I hate watching depressed elder millennials get through life depressedly where the even the saw somebody say that even the queerest, like the gayest people on that show still the straightest gay people y'all ever seen on TV, because it's just so straight and sad and depressing.

59:24 Speaker 2: They're so sad. So I haven't been watching much, but I have been watching, and I when I needed to, and I caught up in time to see when Danny got replaced. You reported it and we're talking about it today because I responded, Nah, they saw his situation, like why do y'all think that he got benched? And now it's Schwartz. Schwartz of all people, I'm like, Okay, They're like, he's someone who can't say no, litt do gooder, mister go ahead with the you know, narcissistic tendencies or just a Chauvenes He's I don't like Schwartz much better.

1:00:00 Speaker 2: But apparently he was gonna be better than Danny because this season, after seeing that there's a I thought maybe production saw those episodes or saw what's the comb and was like, we're not gonna survive a live taping with him on there, the questions will be too hot, or for the reunion completely.

1:00:20 Speaker 1: I think he didn't want to come. I think he got he got out.

1:00:26 Speaker 2: He's allowed to like that. I don't know that.

1:00:28 Speaker 1: You're allowed to or not, but do I think he said. You know what, what I'm seeing in this show from Danny and from Nia is that it's it's becoming hard and hard. And this is what we say about reality TV. If you're not gonna live your authentic life on reality TV, you wasting your time and it's going to be more exhausting for you to try to keep up the facade and the stories than it is for us to watch and that's what we're saying. We're seeing all the facade unravel of them being this perfect couple that have these children and got it all together.

1:01:04 Speaker 1: Four under four, which is absolutely insane to have four children under four years old. That's insane in itself. And they are just unwrapping the mask and coming off. They're not in sync. When he wants to be performative, she doesn't, and vice versa. And in these last two episodes, like, yeah, he's doing a lot of drinking. He and I get it. He's on vacation. They brought a nanny, and then he thought that the nanny was gonna take care of the kids. But Nia's still actively not really allowing the nanny to do what they brought the nanny to do.

1:01:37 Speaker 1: But instead of him being able to have that conversation and be tell him why he's upset, he's getting drunk and yelling about his wig. Ain't lad right in the patch.

1:01:46 Speaker 2: He's fucking frustrating. I like this whole season, it has been like progressively getting worse for him, and it has been really bad, especially because again, you know, she's four into four. What was that episode where he was over there getting like a freaking somebody was rubbing his head or rubbing him or something, and she is like nursing, Like can you give your wife a chicken nugget? Can you rub her temples? So there's a nice little apology now that you also reported about that he put on his uh.

1:02:19 Speaker 1: But the apology came. The apology came to the episode. And that's what even more feel like, did he back out of Watch What Happens Live? Because he's he put up a post addressing him not being on Watch what Happens Live, saying that an opportunity came up that he couldn't pass. That's so excited. What what's the opportunity? What was what opportunity is it?

1:02:45 Speaker 2: But see to me that gave letting Lisa Rena say that she left the.

1:02:49 Speaker 1: Show, yeah I do you know what I mean?

1:02:52 Speaker 2: Yeah? I really felt like but but she didn't we know she was fired. We've been like three in history that ever like walked out or left on their own. It were early stages Beverly Hills. Lisa Rena was not one of them. But she was like I left, you know, it felt like he was like a big opportunity came up or like and they were like Okay, we'll let you say what you want. I feel I would be surprised if he doesn't have a tough reunion because I feel like they're saving thoughts and questions from the audiences and stuff for that and they don't want to feel them now because they want him to answer for them then.

1:03:26 Speaker 2: And there's more to Colm probably so of him being a piece of shit, like it's a cold day in hell. When y'all got me agreeing with Lolack in here going yeah, utah, get him, get them.

1:03:39 Speaker 1: Or even agreeing with Janet now, I will say I don't agree with how Janet went about it last season, like they painted him into some things that I didn't necessarily agree with. But to have me agreeing with Janet a saying like, you know what, yeah, he is aggressive when he drinks, so he is doing too much, you know, like it's a little frustrating, but yeah, I just feel like it was something that he did because he got really upset in the episode because Nia came to him and said, hey, listen, I want to talk to you about how you were talking to me when we were getting ready for the pageant.

1:04:13 Speaker 1: I didn't like it. I wasn't receiving it, well, I was telling you it wasn't making me feel good. And then at the end he's upset with her for saying those things on camera. He wants her to take her mic off. There's an image that he's trying to protect that she's not necessarily going along with anymore. And that's what makes me think there was something that he a part of me. It makes me think that he probably didn't want to do Watch What Happens Live. He didn't want to face the music because he's still trying to protect this image.

1:04:46 Speaker 1: Even the apology he gave to La La was just for cameras, you know what I mean.

1:04:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, similarly to how this apology to his wife is just for the internet after the episode is airing, and after he was already benched from Watch What Happens Live. But should have said that my actions were reprehensible and I couldn't face the music, or they don't want me to come no more because I was being a bad boy. But if you meant it, you would just say that I was at a little place in my life at that time. I was terrible to my wife. Y'all saw that. Y'all are seeing one of the worst parts of my marriage that it's been.

1:05:20 Speaker 2: But I'm different now. We're working on and we're choosing together. But we're not gonna get that because he's not doing any of that. He's lying to me again.

1:05:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder where the state of the Valley is. I don't know how they're doing rating wise. I haven't looked that up, but it was interesting to me that at the NBC upfront there was no conversation about them and the next season. As the renewed, it was only about The Valley Persian Style, which I prefer them any day anyway.

1:05:48 Speaker 2: Hands down, it's pretty much them airing and then me catching up on The Valley Persian style. Right before this the Valley aired. Is the reason why I didn't want to watch this season The Valley, because I just had too much of a night that was way better. It was very entertained and less depressed. Y'all are depressing, and this is sad. I don't like I'm catching the Valley.

1:06:11 Speaker 1: I'm only catching the Valley because there's not much else on on Wednesday, so that that lets you know that if there were other things on, I wouldn't be watching it. And I am kind of tuned in now just to see how bad this gets with Danny, to be honest, but yeah, it's it's terrible. Last night's episode was the last two episodes with him, was very telling, very hard to watch. And it looks like Nia, who's already nursing and taking care of for children, has a fifth child. She's like, Okay, you're tired, you probably nicky, Let's take his shoe but can I help you take his shoes off?

1:06:52 Speaker 1: He's like a drunk fifth child. It's ridiculous, and.

1:06:55 Speaker 2: It absolutely is. I'm looking it up, and it does seem like The Valley got about They got decent ratings point four to six, four million live in their demo when that when they aired, which is is kind of a lot just for context. Southern Hospitality that same week got point two and Roa got point six. So the value getting point four is it live viewers is pretty good. It's it's being watched. I'll tell you that that's higher than Rhode Island live viewers right now, which is actually kind of crazy because I think most people are watching it on Peacock but for whatever reason they are tuned into the Valley.

1:07:39 Speaker 2: I think it's one of those below deck type shows. I think it's one of those, you know, those type of shows that couples can watch and like that men and women can watch together with it being a lot less female centric that they can like talk to because there's enough male presence on the show that they can watch it together. And I think that's why you know it has high ratings because it's pretty similar to like a blow deck. Blow Deck is also about around there. So shout out to them for keeping that.

1:08:11 Speaker 2: I'm bored uh with with sat with depression of watching them be not great humans. Sometimes I just need them to have a little bit more fun and not make it all look so damn terrible. And Danny does bring down my vibe, so I don't he the girl he's on Southern and me on Southern Hospital. They bring down the vibe. They just bring it down, and I don't wanna. I don't want to broad down vibe anymore. So I'm glad Ravo replaced him for Washford Happens lab Or he decided not to go. It would have been a shit show.

1:08:42 Speaker 2: But you won't have that. You won't be able to do that at the reunion.

1:08:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, So yeah, I think this is gonna be a hard season for them, and this is just what happens. This is what I say all the time, like, if you're not gonna live your authentic life, this is what's gonna happen the audience. We're too intelligent for this. We've been watching these shows, Bravo shows, all reality for too long and it's going to catch up to you eventually. And this is where you start to see the cracks in the marriage or you start to have marrital issues because you're trying to keep up a facade for television.

1:09:23 Speaker 1: This is nothing new. Danny been doing this, probably way before he was on this show. So, oh yeah, here we are.

1:09:31 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, here we are, Vanessa. Before we get out of here, I wanted to ask your opinion because I do know how you feel about girlies who are confessional, you.

1:09:43 Speaker 1: Know, confessional gangst us.

1:09:46 Speaker 2: Yes, how do you feel about k Michelle this season having a lot of great confessional moments where she is telling us everything but keeping a real church girl sometimes in the moment you know, Stantar crying, Angela lowering her head and not again really sent me. That was probably one of the best seasons and scenes of the season because Kate did read the room, but I wanted to know how you were feeling, because I've seen some of that feedback and I hadn't personally noticed it too too much. I have noticed that I do love her and her confessionals, and I don't think she's a housewife yet when she's not in her confessionals, I don't know.

1:10:26 Speaker 2: But I love her on the show, so it doesn't bother me at all.

1:10:29 Speaker 1: Like I'm happy she's disappointed. I just want her to be herself. She is so caught up in her own She's in her own way right now. She's so worried about what the naysayers had to say about her not belonging that she feels like she needs to be this classy housewife. And it's like, girl, have you watched it married? Yeah?

1:10:53 Speaker 2: Have you watched.

1:10:57 Speaker 1: Exactly right old the show You're own?

1:11:01 Speaker 2: Yes, you're a step above love and hip hop, but not many.

1:11:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, you literally.

1:11:06 Speaker 2: You're a stupa above babes exactly. That is one and a half sea steps just like a the door, sure, just a little yeah, you just like well, you know, love and hip hop is on the pavement and you on the porch.

1:11:21 Speaker 1: Okay, I think she's in her own way, in her own mind and that right, and she thinks that she will get this label of two ghetto or whatever if she shows that side of her. But ma'am, she is to the girl's weekend, what are you doing? And I also think that she has a level of paranoia because of because Sweetie, they were not talking about your cat with this whole clam oyster thing. They were not talking about you. They were not bringing up a rumor from over eleven years ago that was started by Mano and Soldier Boys.

1:11:58 Speaker 1: They were not more since half these viewers don't even know who may know, and Soldier Boy they have.

1:12:06 Speaker 2: So I definitely feel like that that second one, I was like, Babe, I think they let your They let your parents whoever told you this, let your parento you get the best of you. And also that's something that only bothers you. No shade Again, I brought it up on my episode. They went back and forth, Kelly and Porschell or whatever talking basically doing the same rumor to each other like cheeto fried hot chili, Cheeto fry pussy is crazy. It stays in my mind.

1:12:35 Speaker 1: I really don't what I thought them the oyster comments was from that. Nothing to do with Kay Michelle. No one's trying to take her down. If anything, she was very scared. Yeah. If anything, they're trying to include her, check on her. They're excited to have her on the show. They respect her accolades and what she's accomplished as a as a music artist, and where she's trying to go with her except again, well Seph Drew, well we will. Drew got to get out the basement in less than ten days.

1:13:06 Speaker 2: So okay, here's my thing. I actually think ca Michelle read it wrong and Drew was not trying to I don't think I feel like kay Michelle was like a mayor again, because Kay is so worried about You'll not knowing she married. She's a married woman, she don't know nobody's boyfriend. I don't think that's the woman they were trying to percolate, right. I do think though, that Drew was trying to validate, validate who Black was. I think she saw it as an alley oop and I saw it as a cover of Oh, you don't know whok Michelle is, but you are real quick to link Black to k Michelle to validate the fact that he exists, or he's your relationship or he's at least a decent dude or whatever, which they which is fine, fine.

1:13:52 Speaker 2: I just think it was for a different purpose. It wasn't for her to be like, I'm slipping with somebody's boyfriend. No you're not, and I don't. And you're trying to say, we get it. You were once a whole and you don't want to be that nomal you are now a housewife quite literally, it's okay.

1:14:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I just they showed they showed the flashback of because she ca Mishell. Actually when she saw Black on the phone, she was like, hey, how you doing that is where she said, Oh kay, Mishell, they know each other. That's all it was. And at the end of the day came to show you on here telling us that she gay on the holidays. You still like to sleep with women? You want Shannon Sharp's podcast which I have to watch the full. You're telling them that you don't even care if your husbands sleep with other women as long as you don't pay no other women's bills.

1:14:35 Speaker 1: So you what does it matter if you just married woman, then you don't want them to think that you're doing things with other men.

1:14:42 Speaker 2: Because her that she is married than anything else in order for her to be not a whole and now be a housewife. That's her belief men are gonna cheat. I believe she believes that because I heard her talking about R Kelly, So the way she speaks to about R Kelly, and I don't encourage people to go listen to that. It's very annoying, especially if you are not in the Black community. Of people who excuse have different reasons and ways of excusing R. Kelly's behavior, and her for knowing him and working with him, like her reasons for excusing it are even harder to get to get passed and through without cringing, like, yeah, I see where you're going with it, but it just gives warped thinking of a Southern belle overtly Christian but not didn't read it right, but put it in a misogynistic, sexist type of old thinking of what a marriage should be, where it just matters that you married, like she the type that like her grandparents, my grandparents were married forty nine years and never yeah my grandpa cheated on my grandma a bunch of times, or yeah he hit her, but she stood beside.

1:15:50 Speaker 2: They stayed there until they died. That is not good news. That is not some people to aspire to staying through it, through thick and thin, no matter what, just for the sake of being married. But Caman show needs to be married for the sake of being married.

1:16:02 Speaker 1: That is far Listen, we watched you off and on with this. Dude, y'all was on marriage boot camp trying to get it together years actual. You don't have to go on Queen's Court and.

1:16:14 Speaker 2: Shut steps below. Yeah, the marriage boot camp is not the pavement, it's the man whole. It's literally the goodder.

1:16:21 Speaker 1: Yeah.

1:16:21 Speaker 2: I watched that too, but that's how I know.

1:16:24 Speaker 1: And then you went on Queen's Court seemingly to make him feel threatened or to strong arm him into all right, fine that I'll marry you. What what kind of love story is that? I'm good off you. You ain't even have to be married to come on here. Many of others have been on these shows and not married at all. Girl, Please, we don't care about nothing that Stop trying to give us what you think we want or this facade again, reality TV. We need your real authenticity.

1:16:55 Speaker 2: I think Yeah, I think she saw this as an opportunity to read ability her image in one way or another into this married housewife lady and being like, oh, I'm gonna be a new kind of version of myself. You don't need to do that. If that's where wherever you're at, you chose to marry this dingbat because there was nobody else out there trying to check for you, or he proposed after you finally held his feet to the fire and went on the whole show to go find another man. Great, I'm cool with that. Just make it plain, be like, I don't care if he sees with other bitches, you know, min cheat.

1:17:27 Speaker 2: If that's how you think, it's till you think. But this like the women are after me because I'm a married woman. And she tried to say that I knew him. I said, girl, I think that you just agreeted him on the FaceTime very familiarly, maybe to you, just like a southern kind person, Oh nice, nice to see you. But to Drew, she saw like, oh they know each other, And Drew was like always trying to validate herself. It was an alley of fire. She's like, girl, it's not that deep. I don't give a shit about you.

1:17:57 Speaker 1: But how Black was like, you don't even want to associate yourself with me?

1:18:02 Speaker 2: Happy he's like me.

1:18:04 Speaker 1: So he really likes her. I think at first I.

1:18:07 Speaker 2: Wasn't that's why he on the phone. Listen.

1:18:10 Speaker 1: I thought he was just here to promote his hookah. And after that, I said, I he really liked her.

1:18:15 Speaker 2: I mean they both started fighting, kay Michelle Andrews, so she might like him a little bit too more than she. I think she's just not ready, and I think she's a married woman and she's trying to low key respect that, like she can't move forward, like have a boyfriend. She has no papers yet signed and done. But I think the moment that her papers are signed, I wouldn't be surprised if he become her boyfriend. No, so better him than dentist, That's all I got to say. Yeah, Oh, y'all forgot Dennis is just for the music, even though he's a hot dog king.

1:18:45 Speaker 2: Okay, Vanessa, thank you so much for being here. Thank you always bringing all of the to you, the news, the hot takes, the opinions. I just know people out there nodding to the radios, nodding to their their speaker, and they're like mm hm exactly. So that's why I have to bring with Nasi here because I just so caught up in my own thoughts and opinions and I'm like, surely we all think this way, and she was like, no, this person is actually not doing great. I'm like, okay, I do see that perspective.

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