228. Weekly Mix in the Box (ANTM Doc on E! x RHOBH) w/Mark

0:00 Speaker 1: Sound struggled. Well.

0:11 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologists out there. It is your girl Moni and you are back in the mix with Moni and Mark. This is the Mix in the Box episode. I got my man's Mark here from the Pink Pop Box. How are you doing?

0:30 Speaker 3: They're good. It's been a week, but here we are.

0:33 Speaker 2: I know, right, it has been a week, and but here we are, and we have some things to talk about. And as hard as the week has been for us, I imagine it's been even harder for the likes of Tyra Banks. I don't think she saw what this was coming. We know that because when she sat down for that Netflix documentary, we both said we talked about how we felt like, there's no way in hell.

1:00 Speaker 1: She knew she was sitting there for the same show, which was great.

1:04 Speaker 2: It worked out to our advantage. Excellent program. I had a blast. I loved her not knowing what the hell she was doing, thinking we loved and wanted to review her and everybody else watching her on the MacBook and go at that bitch lion.

1:17 Speaker 1: That was great. But when I tell you.

1:22 Speaker 2: That E, the Girl's over at E S E E and the E is for eat her up e and the the E is for erase.

1:35 Speaker 1: That ego okay, drag her okay.

1:39 Speaker 2: It was giving e true Hollywood story, which if you listened, I said even last week. I loved the true Hollywood stories back in the day. I used to even talk about watching them with my.

1:50 Speaker 1: Friend Preston r. I p.

1:53 Speaker 2: Too with uh In Stafford, and it was incredible to me that it has gone away for so so long, that docu style go behind the scenes, open up the curtain. We haven't seen that, especially only in so long. Even though they really held the the they held the thes on that for the longest time. They were really pulling back the curtain on everything pop culture, every show they used to do, like the ones about like full House and like you know, found Out, but that one gagged me. That's how I found out people were gay.

2:29 Speaker 1: I was young. I didn't know.

2:32 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I loved it. It was very expose a style back in the day. But that I was before we had social media, before we had TikTok and girl he's telling their own story right.

2:42 Speaker 1: Not separate of that.

2:44 Speaker 2: Some of the girlies even here that's set down for both of these documentaries have told their own stories on their own social media.

2:50 Speaker 1: Is not not no.

2:52 Speaker 2: Less famous than Lisa Diamatto, Like I'm always hearing about her whenever I would look up up what are the girls doing since America's Next Top Model because I've seen none of them, like I used to look for them out in the world after they won as a young, impressionable teenager who thought that the America's Next Top Model show would produce some top models.

3:17 Speaker 1: Silly ass, what were the girls? I don't what?

3:22 Speaker 2: And now Eden pulled back that curtain and told us why that is the case, Honey, It's not like we didn't know. If you did watch that news documentary, you told me some things that we knew even before that. It was like, this is all public. We'll see what Netflix even has to offer on top of that, because the.

3:42 Speaker 1: Girl was de Lulu, and what they had to offer was.

3:44 Speaker 2: Her sitting down and sharing that delusional nature with us.

3:48 Speaker 3: That hell, every last damn minute of her delusion.

3:53 Speaker 2: Too, because I was like, oh, no, I believe because that actually set me up for the perfect layup for this docu series where this was smart, This was so gritty. This was very like get down to the nitty gritty and really exposed.

4:09 Speaker 1: Exposed.

4:10 Speaker 2: Oh, it's practices, worse practices, not best, real bad shit.

4:17 Speaker 1: It was real bad over there on that set.

4:19 Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, but that Netflix documentary set me up to believe she could absolutely do any of this.

4:25 Speaker 3: Yep, yep, and.

4:28 Speaker 1: Look select she did.

4:29 Speaker 2: And you know what's crazy is having watched the Netflix one and heard her say, even to that little bit that they confronted her with, then well, I didn't have anything to do with the editing stuff.

4:40 Speaker 1: And all the people in.

4:41 Speaker 2: That one said, no, that's untrue. We know that, right, it's her name on everything. But baby, he said, let's take that, and I want you to turn back to that page. Let's revisit that she didn't have just the last say. She had the first say, the only say. She cut up, the say. She put the says together, She placed the saves on top of each other, and if you thought you had a say, she would say to you, you don't have no say. I want to tell that girl story on this episode right here, right.

5:10 Speaker 1: Now like this.

5:11 Speaker 2: I mean, wow, no, baby, there was some dark shit that happened on this one, Okay, I mean there was.

5:17 Speaker 1: I found myself writing in my notes a.

5:19 Speaker 2: Lot justice for dot dot dot, and then at one point I just started a bullet pointed list.

5:25 Speaker 1: Did you yes?

5:28 Speaker 2: Because I mean, like, let's see you start with the girl who started losing weight on the show because she was booked. She was casting as a as an quote unquote plus size model.

5:41 Speaker 1: You at the ripe size of like eight.

5:45 Speaker 2: Every plus size person I know right now is like, let me get a size eight listen and a roe Ann last week, please I understand it. But she talking about into two thousands this I believe her name is Sarah.

6:02 Speaker 1: She was cast it as a plus size model.

6:06 Speaker 2: However, the way the show is set up, everybody's losing weight, you're not eating, you're stressed as hal It's a hot stress environment all the time. We now find out that the way they're producing clips and segments and things of each other, and the what we're seeing the emotional reactions they're talking about some dark shit or confronting them with some real producer shit. Tyra Tyra Becks is pulling real producer Bachelor style production, like evil shit, get them riled up, panic crying, and then be like you've made it to the next round.

6:42 Speaker 2: You're beautiful, gorgeous. I can't believe how gorgeous you are for a thick girl. Oh my god.

6:47 Speaker 1: But then girly loses weight and they're like, we don't know what to.

6:52 Speaker 3: Do with you when she starts, what's going on?

6:57 Speaker 2: Yes, like, oh so now you're a neck in between where you're not quite high fashion, but you're not quite plus sized either.

7:04 Speaker 1: So what do we do?

7:06 Speaker 2: I used to really sit there and I want to slap Tyral, like I really want to call her a hold on her face, because I really sat there thinking she was really in partant wisdom on these bitches.

7:17 Speaker 1: She was traumatizing these ladies.

7:23 Speaker 2: Backwards and forward, ripping their assholes a new one with some of the shit.

7:28 Speaker 1: Bringing up They trauma on camera.

7:31 Speaker 2: They mama's dying, They daddy's abusing them, They mama's abusing them, and what's wrong with you? Just to be like, but you're so beautiful in a sweatsuit, here's your picture, you're going to hollow.

7:44 Speaker 3: The worst part was she said, lamee Brian won't look at you, and Victoria's secret won't look at you. What are you going to do? I was like, you just said.

7:52 Speaker 2: That, are those the only two options? Also, which is crazy.

7:57 Speaker 3: Honey, you said a mouthful right there, and.

8:00 Speaker 1: She really did.

8:01 Speaker 2: It's a shot and it's not lost to me. I want to shout out at the up here before we even get there that you.

8:06 Speaker 1: Know the where are they now? Kenya one of my.

8:09 Speaker 2: Justice force who was sexually assaulted on the show.

8:14 Speaker 1: But this is why I put on threads.

8:16 Speaker 2: I need ray SONI to actually be in every pop culture documentary that we do because I need her to provide culture critique because she is a culture critic as they listed her as I'm just a fan from Twitter since day one. I need her to do it for everything because when she said not only because I was like, no, yeah, maybe Kenya should have been professional. Maybe I guess as a kid, I'm being formed. I'm like, okay, so in those situations you should know how to continue on, yeah, you're right, and then to be like, yeah, but it's a fake shoot girls, real assault, fake shoot?

8:53 Speaker 2: What whoa that did that hit me? It was like, oh, it.

8:57 Speaker 1: Takes you out of it. Because I was a kid, I was impressionable.

9:00 Speaker 2: You're watching television, You're thinking, this is what it takes, and you know what a lot of times they even bring up. Tyra Banks is working out a lot of her own personal abuse and shit and on this show, on their show, yeah, she was doing it on that projecting left, right and center.

9:16 Speaker 1: However, you were supposed to do differently.

9:19 Speaker 2: You had to put up with or figure out a way to work with a sexual assault allegedly in real time at a runway show.

9:26 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry that it's gross f him.

9:29 Speaker 2: If that designer everybody involved today, they literally would get canceled. So I don't even want to like hear that. You know she did the right thing, then she should have. She deserved more, Tyra Banks, and so do these girls. For this fake show. You creating a situation where more people can experience the trauma that you experienced. It's not that's cruel, that's hazing, that's bullying, that's that's abuse at the hands of an abused person. But as you know, you know, Marilyn Manson and them.

10:03 Speaker 1: They had helpers abuse. Girlies can do abuse. But Tyra King was one of my justice force. She was like number one.

10:13 Speaker 2: I was very happy to see that at the end of this she's helping models in the ways that.

10:19 Speaker 1: Tyro was supposed to.

10:21 Speaker 2: And I was happy to see that, not because she oh, they all deserved modeling careers. But when Kinga sat down superficially, I said, that is a gorgeous woman.

10:30 Speaker 3: Gorgeous.

10:31 Speaker 2: God damn well she said that. I said, book her, girl, I'll buy it. So to know she got work and it's now helping other women. I think that's awesome and uplifting them, not breaking them down, because apparently every single one of these women, both on both cock games, but definitely on this one, said that tiffany conversation we were all rooting for you did not give big brother, big sister, my auntie Tyra type friend even like looking out checking for her at all.

11:07 Speaker 1: Tyra was pissed that you were not broken up.

11:10 Speaker 2: More about the fact that your fake ass opportunity, that the bill of goods that she sold you.

11:15 Speaker 1: You were not upset about losing.

11:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, she was hurt.

11:20 Speaker 2: Her feelings were hurt. Have you ever seen a narcissist get their feelings hurt before?

11:25 Speaker 1: I have.

11:26 Speaker 2: I was raised by one, and goddamn when they when

11:33 Speaker 2: when their feelings are her baby, the whole parking lot will hear it. And that's not a fake sentence. I never forget. Oh, Jesus, let me not air my old parents out.

11:44 Speaker 1: But I was like, sir, we are in the suburbs.

11:48 Speaker 2: Can you police lower your voice talking to my mama all kinds aloud because you are offended.

11:56 Speaker 1: It is the parking lot and we live in Elicut of Maryland. What are you doing?

12:03 Speaker 2: Yes, honey, I was into suburbs at this point. I was like, what are you doing? You cannot be yelling it out and you can't be narcissists in the suburbs. Oh my god, Mama, we gotta move.

12:14 Speaker 1: Not in the streets.

12:15 Speaker 2: They put roundabouts in because they don't like the bus stops having people go forty miles per hour by it. Oh god, the kids, God forbid, they don't see a truck coming at them, you know. Anyways, speaking of people trying to get out of their situations, a lot of the conversation around even this documentary with that, I again appreciate the commentary of the different the experts, not just the models and the abuse and the people complicit, right, IT'SOK, no accountability. They have people who were like helping you break down and dissect and process what it is that you're both looking at and peacing with what was actually happening and putting together that what you experienced were not good.

13:00 Speaker 2: Finding out that I need to look her at her name up baby girl with the alopecia, gorgeous woman. Yeah, the whole time she was getting a wig, just to be told real time on camera and edit. The whole season they had us thinking that she was so thrilled to have a bald head and it did not even occur to me. Mark, did you remember this that that was the first year it wasn't a makeup brand, it was a hair brand.

13:35 Speaker 3: Yes, ma'amh Diaba. Well no, you know what really freaked me out was the sleeping situation when they talked about the sleeping quarters.

13:45 Speaker 1: Yes, I couldn't even what what are you? I don't remember everything it was.

13:51 Speaker 3: It was they literally locked them basically in their hotel rooms, two girls deep, and they weren't to leave. Food got shipped into them. I'm like the.

14:04 Speaker 2: Fact that they were consistently also told what what do they keep saying? Girly who was like, I quit modeling to become I quit being a plus size model to become a real plus sized purse.

14:19 Speaker 1: Girl. Eat ita love it.

14:21 Speaker 2: That was a fantastic Joe glad you're doing stand up comedy. Wow, this list of Justice Force is so fucking long. But yeah, she was what she said that they kept saying to them also, like if you break whatever part of this contract or whatever part of your of your what you know, if you break the rules, we will you will lose out of your like residuals or something in like forever for the rest of your life.

14:51 Speaker 1: They're not getting paid.

14:53 Speaker 3: They're not getting paid, you asshole.

14:55 Speaker 1: What the hell is that?

14:57 Speaker 2: You used to think the girls were gonna be so excited to get that seven hundred or one hundred thousand dollars they were gonna get that cover that contract.

15:07 Speaker 1: We knew the.

15:08 Speaker 2: Girls weren't working even though they were getting Yeah, we knew that. I mean I remember quite literally seeing jazz Leene on a Forever twenty one ad in the store in the mall two decades ago, almost a decade ago, like a long time ago.

15:28 Speaker 1: I remember that and being so shock.

15:30 Speaker 2: She was one of like maybe the four people I saw in real in the real world working like from that show. And now we know it was in spite of the show, but in general, I was like, Okay, so we knew they weren't working. I assume they at least got the you know they contract with cover girl Adrian talking about, Yeah, they would fly me places to stay there next to the stuff. I couldn't be in any other ads. I was basically just like a the Ashley Tisdale Disney girl that if they couldn't get a hand in Montana, they got an America's Next Stuff model girl to just sit next to the cover girl lip bombs at a trade show where the real models walk something.

16:09 Speaker 3: Else that's so embarrassing.

16:13 Speaker 1: That's awful, and the rest of them.

16:16 Speaker 2: They were actually just promised the opportunity to book and bill about one hundred thousand dollars worth of work through the agency. However, if they could not get that work for you, oh well, that was simply just like it on the same page you went it.

16:40 Speaker 3: For what I need to know? What did you think about all the other ex judge that showed up?

16:47 Speaker 1: Missus Janis Dickinson, she won't be over here.

16:52 Speaker 2: Let me tell you why she was Like, Okay, I was a dick, So because I was a dick, can tell you I was not the biggest dick on that show. I got out dicked all the time by that lady. I know I was a dick, but so was she. Okay, she was an even bigger one. You thought I was bad or they kept that in all of my bad dick behavior so that she would look like so that Tara would look like a better person.

17:22 Speaker 1: How many times did it when she was sticking up?

17:25 Speaker 3: Yeah?

17:25 Speaker 1: What are we enforcing in the industry? If we do that?

17:28 Speaker 2: She needs to lose weight? Janis would say that we get so mad at Janis, But Tarra is the one telling her fashion don't know what to do with you, and you're too fat but too skinny, and so which is it?

17:42 Speaker 1: It's your show.

17:43 Speaker 3: I just knew there was no love loss between them. This documentary cemented that for me.

17:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, of course not, and I'm glad about it. I don't think any of them actually deserve real peace post this show. That might be a hot take, but I everybody, all of them are complicity I do, I really do. And then some and more should be had because Tyra really crazy. If she thinks she bringing this shit back.

18:09 Speaker 3: I don't think it's good, not now, Not that.

18:13 Speaker 2: I can't imagine she really thinks that she was going to But that was before this E one aired, she's been hinting at it.

18:18 Speaker 1: I hope she stays her.

18:19 Speaker 2: Ass over there in Australia, where they also informed us that her starting this brand of America's next to our model and it being global, she is getting fat checks across the board for a whole of these other ones who are using her idea. She has it, you know, the copyright and whatnot, the idea. They can call it their own country, but boy do they still give her a little coiny Coin.

18:44 Speaker 1: Did not know that did not either.

18:47 Speaker 2: I was like they were like, no, Tyra was getting fat checks the whole time that she was abusing these girlies across the world, and she's ray Sonnie was also right when she was like, hey, you're not giving a talk show to any other model. You're only gonna give a talk show to the person that you see every week, to somebody that is ingraining your TV. And that's ahle Tyer really wanted eventually also was to be she want to be bankable.

19:20 Speaker 1: I'll never forget when.

19:21 Speaker 2: She changed her production stream from Tyra Banks Productions to Bankable Productions to it being going from like a word title to on her talk show. Is when it changed in like season two or three, Bankable as a safe and like close and I remember going someone got production coins now and I was in like the eighth grade watching this and thinking like, wow.

19:51 Speaker 3: Tyra got question, remember that I do.

19:54 Speaker 2: It's the neeral divergence. Baby, the pop culture is stuck with me. This was my happy place, my carved.

19:59 Speaker 1: Out side of the world.

20:01 Speaker 2: Okay, the this is I would come home and I would be in the courts and talk shows from like two forty to five o'clock. I'm rewatching the View and Wendy and Tyra and the courts.

20:16 Speaker 1: I will, you know, Judge jot.

20:17 Speaker 3: Lane, I know that was my blood.

20:20 Speaker 1: That's my bill.

20:21 Speaker 2: Wendy every day is a hot like that's my I call it hot topics because of that lady. I know she claims it was the View. They gave it to her, but it was Wendy. They gave it to me. And I hope to you know, live up. This is the stuff she would be talking about. I think that Wendy would definitely have watched this documentary series on e Dirty Rotten Scandals, these last two episodes, and she absolutely what have us talking right here right now about all of these same things. Okay, let me tell you they got so many people.

20:56 Speaker 2: I was impressed to see Joanna House.

20:58 Speaker 1: She was the winner exacle.

21:00 Speaker 2: Remember when she was still working she replaced Elizabeth hasselback on like Stu for Less or something like that on the Style Channel all those years ago. I was so excited. She had that mohawk. I thought it was awful. But I was like, she is from America's next toime model. The girls are working, look at Tyra go and Tyra apparently was telling us the same thing.

21:20 Speaker 1: She was like, oh yeah, they're all working. They're so rich.

21:25 Speaker 1: Liar all of them. The whole lot.

21:27 Speaker 2: They talked about the switch and language, which is so funny because if you read the book Cultish by.

21:34 Speaker 1: I forget her name, she hosts the show Cultish. I think sounds like a cult. She hosts the show sounds like a cult.

21:43 Speaker 2: But the book Cultish that she wrote and based the podcast off of, is what they also brought up in this documentary because the language what constantizes that as a cult is like when you do things like adopt a certain language or and you make us believe look that that that is the language. And they thought something I thought was interesting was first season, Supermodel season two and on Top Model, we never hear a supermodel again. They point that out. I thought that was absolutely fascinated that she really did have us completely changed the tune and tenor of everything down to the point of like she was following the cult handbook actually so verbatim that by the time we get to All Stars years later, they're putting paper bags over their heads and putting them in a van to go to the on location set where they will be doing there and drive them around for like two hours or something like that.

22:43 Speaker 1: Two hours they put that.

22:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, they put that girl in the closet for forty minutes. Lisa, they put her in the closet for forty minutes to make her talk about her trauma on the Tyra.

22:52 Speaker 1: Banks Show, even though she said she didn't want to.

22:54 Speaker 2: For two hours, they drove them around so they wouldn't know where they were going on All Stars. And that's where we get You know that I have my justice for Angelie and uh Lisa Diamato because they were on the All Star season.

23:09 Speaker 1: Did you know that.

23:12 Speaker 3: Won?

23:13 Speaker 1: Yeah? And it was taken from her.

23:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so then they put they let us wonder what happened so that we would wonder why she was disqualified, yep, so that they could then reshoot a very piss poor fake ass second second fake runway for a new fake ally to go ahead and give it to Lisa after disqualifying Angelie because okay, also it's flying her to the Mandarin Oriental and making her stay at a high class, high value, five star hotel to talk about sponsorships and actually be like, we're taking away your title because you engaged in sex work.

24:03 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on how they did this sing to this girl?

24:07 Speaker 3: And here's the thing, And I've always had this viewpoint, everybody's got a pass and how the hell can you rise above your past and better yourself if nobody lets you do it? And that's and I think that at that time and place in the world, they were scared to have that past attached to their brand because then they would be advocating for sex work. Nowadays, people say, oh, I was in the adult film industry, and but.

24:45 Speaker 2: You got all that fans models who would probably sign up right now to do thank you.

24:51 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure my neighbor down the street has an only fans account.

24:54 Speaker 2: I don't know about it, and that's probably why they're able to pay for the house they live.

24:59 Speaker 3: So that's right, nice exactly.

25:04 Speaker 2: No, I completely agree. I think that, and I think it's so I do think it's so hypocritical, because one, I don't think you didn't.

25:15 Speaker 3: Know that they knew what was the purpose?

25:20 Speaker 2: If you knew that of her, and you knew you had this moral high ground standing and connection.

25:31 Speaker 1: With your own show, what will what.

25:34 Speaker 2: Will suffice with the brands that are sponsoring it?

25:39 Speaker 1: I just doubt that.

25:42 Speaker 2: Why would you cast somebody that you don't think has the possibility of going all the way to the end.

25:49 Speaker 1: If you cast somebody they could be on the show.

25:51 Speaker 3: I think they knew she was going to go that far. She was just that good.

25:55 Speaker 2: I think they didn't know that. But also, it's all stars. That's kind of the point. I just don't feel like I feel like you shot yourself in the foot having her on the show.

26:06 Speaker 1: Knowing you were always going to have to disqualify her.

26:10 Speaker 3: At the How do I say this? They didn't care. They wanted that drama, they wanted that last minute drama.

26:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it goes to Lisa, which is crazy, no tea, no shade.

26:25 Speaker 1: Lisa is a great woman.

26:29 Speaker 3: But but but next also next to Allison, because I remember Alison with the Doe.

26:35 Speaker 1: I remember her, like they're like, I think about Alison at least once a year.

26:42 Speaker 3: What's she doing?

26:44 Speaker 2: I do wonder because she looks just so I just saw her look was. There were some people they would cast on that show that I was like, there's no way they won't get work after this look at them, And I think that was also the problem. The prettier they were, the more tyra to break you down.

27:01 Speaker 3: I just wonder if some of them just lost their spirit for it after it was over.

27:06 Speaker 1: I do think they did. I do think they did.

27:08 Speaker 2: I mean we even saw and talked about how there were some there was domestic violence, there was uh, there was people being in really a bad way after this show.

27:17 Speaker 1: There's got a number on them.

27:19 Speaker 2: And you know, one of the things, one of the criteria also for what constitutes something as a cult is having a high exit cost for getting out. These women have the highest exit cost I've ever seen. I Mean, they're sitting there talking on a documentary almost twenty years later.

27:37 Speaker 3: And they're still trying, They're still aft up.

27:39 Speaker 1: They're still affed up.

27:41 Speaker 2: They're still so traumatized, like they're still processing things and working through stuff, and things are wounds that are still so open like that they are working really hard to move past every day while Tyra makes hot ice cream in Australia, warm milkshakes or whatever the hell them and smising and sending y'all a smile you'll never forget.

28:08 Speaker 1: I thought Tara Banks was on drugs like six years ago.

28:11 Speaker 2: This was one hundred percent in my head because she went on Watch What Happens Live.

28:17 Speaker 3: What you're talking about, I.

28:19 Speaker 2: Know you do, and that's why I love you and that's why you're here and we do the show together weekly. Because she went on there and she had like a camp or some shit I want to say, also in a trench coat. I do know it was a bad wig though. I remember that wig was awful. I remember being like.

28:36 Speaker 1: Wow, is she okay? It's the money dried up.

28:39 Speaker 2: I was concerned about her money so much so because of the wig. But she was talking about this camp like a smile a digital.

28:50 Speaker 1: It's gonna sound like I'm making this up, and y'all, I don't. I don't think it was any more hinged when.

28:56 Speaker 2: She announced that it would be a camp for girl modeling online. You could play an online version and an in real life version. You could go to it and spend a lot of money to learn how to model in Smie dead ass at this camp. This is pre hot ice free. This was venture number one. I was like, she came out of retirement to tell us about a what at camp? At camp with a game online? Is it webkins? What is it?

29:32 Speaker 1: Is it online? What is it sim I don't understand. I loved it.

29:37 Speaker 2: I had so many Oh my god, I was I've always been just a girly.

29:41 Speaker 1: Like online building homes with little like things. But that's what she said, that we were gonna be able to.

29:47 Speaker 2: Do with real people and or I could pay ten thousand dollars to go to California on the model. At thirteen, I was like, I know about this, which is crazy because what was.

30:05 Speaker 3: It that summer camp that looked surprisingly like Jones?

30:12 Speaker 2: Listen, we already got to stand from prison experiment. Maybe she put bags on the kids hands too too far?

30:20 Speaker 2: Or is that too far?

30:22 Speaker 1: Listen? Justice for Ebony the first gay on the show.

30:25 Speaker 3: She didn't want to be.

30:26 Speaker 1: But they outed her anyway.

30:30 Speaker 3: Wow, they did that.

30:33 Speaker 1: That is awful. That was that is awful. I've been out of before. That is awful and that was not on TV.

30:40 Speaker 3: That is my voice out. What can I say?

30:43 Speaker 2: All Right, you got Sarah, Justice for the two fat, too thin model, Justice for jazz Line, the first Latina even know. A couple of years before they were like no Latinas, but then here she go.

30:56 Speaker 1: Justice for Lisa. She won when she really shouldn't have. So now we all hate her, but we don't need to hate her. They kind.

31:06 Speaker 2: But it's not her fault and she knows that. And she even said they definitely set her up. I feel like they set her up and I hate that.

31:12 Speaker 1: I am a part of this.

31:14 Speaker 2: Like hello Joanne. That justice for Joanna. She is the woman with alopecia. She now has young daughters, and she is like, let me tell.

31:24 Speaker 1: You, they want you a wig.

31:25 Speaker 2: Please know they will then shave your patchy haired head on TV for everyone's amusement, similarly to how they'll close someone's a black woman's gap and open up a white woman's cap for TV for amusement. We're just out here mutilating whole humans.

31:44 Speaker 3: It's fine, And yes, here comes Tyrol and watch What Happens Live with her best shaken wear.

31:51 Speaker 4: Exactly, that's Joanna's wig. Justice for Angela absolutely or sure or Angelie. I really think that she deserves an apology.

32:06 Speaker 3: She'll never get it.

32:08 Speaker 1: No, she'll never get it.

32:09 Speaker 2: The fact that there are two networks that can make two separate documentaries with enough people that are owed an apology from the same person is kind of crazy to me. But here we are, like, there's a there's a this was a whole new batch of women that have been like.

32:25 Speaker 3: Traumatized by this lady.

32:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, these are the ones Netflix couldn't get a hold of because they already sat down and talked and uh they said they had the same, if not worse things to say.

32:37 Speaker 1: I highly encourage you off. If you haven't seen it, go watch that.

32:41 Speaker 3: Why do I feel like there's going to be a part two?

32:43 Speaker 2: I was, well, well, there were two parts. There were two episodes too.

32:47 Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no. I mean for Netflix. Why do I think they're going to follow up? Oh, well that would be Why do I think that's going to happen?

32:56 Speaker 2: I think they should. I mean Netflix has a reputation of being not terrible in the true crime documentary space and breaking the like the talking the stuff. I mean, look at perfect neighbor like they do.

33:08 Speaker 3: I was just gonna say that, Yeah, they say that. I was destroyed for days.

33:15 Speaker 1: That kept everybody up in the eight That was hard with But you just did that.

33:21 Speaker 3: Even my man that's asleep in the living room right now, as an officer of the law, he was like, that's crazy shit.

33:29 Speaker 1: That was crazy shit. That was so crazy my I mean, the whole.

33:32 Speaker 2: Thing being on body cams is I mean, the storytelling in that one is fantastic. Like literally, Netflix has the opportunity they do really good documentary work. They really need they get a hold of it. I think they should follow up with all this new information about how bad and how culty this was, Like we need to talk about how this did draw women in. This drew drew people in. There were women on this episode. They were like, there wasn't a time in my life I didn't know what top model was when I went on it.

34:01 Speaker 3: Thank you, But they need to go deeper, and I want them to go after the networks themselves, because there's no way they didn't know.

34:07 Speaker 2: Boom absolutely yeah, well Netflix, I mean, networks back then were extremely culpable in a lot of things. I mean, look at the dark side of reality. To look at the dark side of TV. The Nickelodeon special ruined my childhood because those were literally my actual adolescent years, so I was the target audience. I felt weird things. Then I now know now what I know, and I was like, dang it, So just talk this under another thing, like I'm glad we have social media if it means opening the doors to expose more people to talk about more.

34:46 Speaker 1: Have a discussion.

34:48 Speaker 3: I never find a problem with having It's not a problem to have a discussion, but when it leads to people being traumatized further, that's where I said, maybe we should have it all panel or have a different medium to have that discussion.

35:03 Speaker 1: That is one hundred percent true.

35:05 Speaker 2: I Mean, what's even crazier is it's like, I agree, we should always be willing to have a discussion, especially when something you know impactful happens and you don't know where your place was in that thing, or you're working on where your place wasn't nothing, and how you feel about it. Someone who is definitely not equipped to have discussions.

35:26 Speaker 1: And it's funny that we even mentioned.

35:28 Speaker 2: Cults already, because if you if you wanted to talk about one, you couldn't do it with our girly Amanda over there on the Housewives of the Beverly Hills.

35:39 Speaker 3: Because you mean, the show nothing this year.

35:42 Speaker 2: The show about nothing this year except for how to find new ways or how to find new white women to piss me off, to piss all of us off, because Amanda is doing.

35:53 Speaker 1: All of y'all in y'all are all mad?

35:56 Speaker 3: Why I've never seen almost an entire culture turn against the first season like this.

36:07 Speaker 1: Like this, This is polarizing. She's polarizing for sure.

36:15 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not going to discount her presence, but it's her. It's the way she carries herself and the way she almost everything.

36:30 Speaker 2: But she wants you to think she's so humble while she's flaunting everything.

36:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's so.

36:35 Speaker 2: She's talking consistently in therapy speak and narcissists speak at the same time.

36:42 Speaker 3: It's very frustrating because you can't get it around.

36:45 Speaker 2: So frustrating because she's like I like to think of myself as a person who says what they need to say calmly and when I'm calm, But then also I know I can write a book. I've proven to write many of books. I have lots of businesses. I make a lot of money.

37:03 Speaker 3: Hey, I have an assistant great, like, what what are we doing?

37:12 Speaker 2: What are we doing? I watched this episode. I started it with, oh my god, we're in Italy. The fact that we are at a cash trip usually is a turning point for me. I can't have a bad time on a cast trip. The fights are always good, the outfits, the on Beyonce. I'm always into something. I will say, post this boring ass opera that you still don't need to you know, you still gotta you know, re act like you awake and do your best. But post opera, I did think that that table, that dining table, for their dorgeous stunning, it looks so cozy.

37:49 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I would sit out there for hours. I would be so disassociated, YA could fight. I'm at the other end looking at the ocean, and I am I'm locked in and with these apps, this wine and this cushy seat. I said, oh, it's a great seat to have a dinner and apparently get interviewed, roasted whatever. And so it's when we get to this dinner that I'm like, we're in Italy, we could we should be having a good time.

38:19 Speaker 1: We're about to have a fight.

38:20 Speaker 2: I know it because we're sitting down to dinner. What this girl come on this show for? Because the way I'm not having fun and it's her fault. Like I found myself pointing to the screen and saying, it's you.

38:33 Speaker 1: You don't want to be.

38:34 Speaker 2: Here, but you're making it everybody else's problem, like they don't want I don't understand what you like.

38:42 Speaker 1: Okay, let me say it this way.

38:44 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm trying to be or I'm I feel like I'm being manipulated or someone is trying to manipulate me. Every time I think she speaks or acts or is around people, I think she is manipulative. And it really upsets me because it's like, I don't know what you want me to feel, but I know you are trying to make sure someone feels something by not answering questions, by bringing up stuff that you have no business talking about, but not answering questions, by talking so calmly and slowly, so everyone matches you, but the moment that they match you on this level, and stay calm as long as it's when they say something you don't like.

39:28 Speaker 2: Hey, don't call me out wimp in my home. Now I'm a victim. Now my son, it's the anniversary of my son's deepth Well, I don't want you to interrogate me today.

39:37 Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't know that, but now I've told you so. Stop. She didn't stop. So you can.

39:44 Speaker 2: Your ability to find where you can take the moral high ground in every.

39:49 Speaker 1: Situation that you come into contact with another.

39:52 Speaker 2: Person on this cast is not only ridiculous, it's actually laughable because it's in some positions where you did. You started it. You're the one talking. You got mad at d read for talking about the cult. You brought up the cult.

40:05 Speaker 3: She brought up the cult. She wrote about the cult fourteen years ago.

40:08 Speaker 2: On her blogs, exactly why are you mad at dare? You put it on the internet and it feels like a deep dive? No shit, everybody show And let me tell you, the only people that know it the most is the House of the Beverly Hills.

40:26 Speaker 3: That bitches do nothing but deep dives on each other.

40:29 Speaker 2: We used to literally have Bravo blogs where they would deep dive and then write deep dives about their deep dives.

40:36 Speaker 1: On each other.

40:37 Speaker 2: Yes, girl, you wrote a blog about your experience. It seems like she's doing a deep dive. Yeah, because you won't answer a goddamn question.

40:47 Speaker 3: But the and the best person she lied, she goes you. You're saying that you googled Amanda Francis and Colt on Google and it came up. Yup. Boss said.

40:57 Speaker 1: It was like, Noah, doesn't I checked. Boss's like, yes, it.

40:59 Speaker 3: Does, Liar, because I checked the other day.

41:02 Speaker 1: It does. Of course it does. Why wouldn't it it's Google?

41:06 Speaker 2: You sound silly that both puts down because Amanda, here's the thing, this is why I feel like I'm being manipulated. What she's saying would then imply that she and her cult it's not a big enough story that one she would have even.

41:18 Speaker 1: Needed to write a blog post about it.

41:20 Speaker 2: Two, it's something with the internet would not know about because she's a non factor before right now. But then, how is that possible when you've written plenty of books, have lots of businesses, tons of money, and bought a housewives house so you can get on a show girl, So then how can it be both? How can it be you have no notoriety? So they no, it doesn't come up. My Cult's that you're looking deeply on me because you want to know because that stuff doesn't come up. Or I'm actually so notable people know about it all the time, because I feel like you've told us about the cult in like episode one, in your complessional episode two, so dark Finally looking at your up now actually does not shock me.

42:03 Speaker 1: It's not.

42:07 Speaker 3: Because waste her time.

42:10 Speaker 1: I know kids boom.

42:14 Speaker 3: Two kids at a deadbeat ex husband seemed to be and.

42:18 Speaker 2: That you let us know that you have these feelings about Why doesn't she understand that either, I'm like, you're choosing your She's committed to misunderstanding. And that's why again I ask you're committed to misunderstanding. Why to read is mad at you because you want to have a beef with this person on the show, But you seem exasperated by the beef that you started with the person on this show by having an opinion about somebody that you met two minutes ago.

42:45 Speaker 3: Well not only that, but she very subtly and sneakily made it Kyle. That was the one that said it. When Kyle, when Kyle said, I concerned she's talking too much and I mean, this is yeah, I wouldn't do that, and then she co opted that and weaponized that and caused a bigger rift between Kyle and Duri than there was to start with, and it pissed me off.

43:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially because she's like, I just feel like if you had the why, the context, the reason, the tenor the tone, the conversation, the time of day, and all of that, you would see that we weren't talking about you like that. And I'm like, one, that's too much. That basically means you're saying, if I could talk my way out of it, if she would just let me talk to her again, she's a manipulator.

43:39 Speaker 1: I don't like that. I'm very sensitive to manipulative people. Hello, I just mentioned how I grew up household narcissist parent. I don't like when people are trying to make me feel something by telling me one thing but then telling me something else at the same time. You did know what you were doing. You knew what you were talking about.

43:58 Speaker 2: Also, it is not the case or it's not the point that you were talking about it and co opt to Kyle's thinging that you have an opinion and that you used to be a therapist.

44:08 Speaker 1: And so you worked with kids and when you worked with.

44:12 Speaker 2: Kids, like I mean, of course I would have told you. I agree with Kyle, I agree with you. You still the read's point is it's none of your business because you don't know me.

44:22 Speaker 1: Kyle can have an opinion because she does.

44:24 Speaker 3: You don't eight years in almost ten years in she knows her.

44:28 Speaker 1: Shut up. That's all you had to do, was not a colin be like, yeah, that does seem tough. So how are you guys navigating that as friends? Like that's all you had to do?

44:39 Speaker 3: Well, I think you know that clip I posted today and for the after show that Kyle Erica and say nail that they called it.

44:49 Speaker 2: They nailed that shit because it's finally come up. Basically, what the hell is the reason for this girl coming on this show? It isn't to talk about the cold though she suspect that story out of us eighty percent of its as merit. The rest is questionable. Specifically, the I left in the middle of the night is what got me. Because also if you if you hurt me, mention high exit costs, but yet you can call the licensed or Jennifer Tilly said that was kind of easy then actually, wait, yeah, if all you can do is call the licensure, that's it.

45:27 Speaker 2: I said, all it must because she's like she was a young white woman, because I definitely tried to get my I definitely let me tell you about that high exit cost, because y'all know, if I defend Mary on it, I'm also gonna say, again, let's just look at the difference. But again, I if you look at the cult criteria, I'm not taking away that what Amanda went through qualifies as it because I know that what I went through qualifies as it.

45:53 Speaker 1: I will not take that from her.

45:55 Speaker 3: I figured out what organization it is just based on what she said this week when she said the licenser. Who else do we know that had to pay to get out of their situation with their religious order? Heathery're gay? This was the Warmons baby.

46:14 Speaker 2: Well, that does make a lot of sense for her too, or again, the youth pastor of it all.

46:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me tell you something.

46:21 Speaker 2: I was in the youth group, but I was in the colts, and it does feel mine also checks out all of those things.

46:27 Speaker 1: Even though it was a mega.

46:28 Speaker 2: Church, it was much much bigger. There were a lot of us. There are still a lot of them not paying them. Exit calls over twenty five thousand people at that local one. They have won some all over the world. Okay, the same church, the exact same church. The exit calls is. I was born into that school, in that church. I only went to that the daycare of people that were from that church my entire life, the school, the elementary school, middle everything, my entire life. Church seven days a week. I'm in the same building leaving it.

46:59 Speaker 2: Not until ninth grade is when I'm starting to really be like I am mental wise, where the execut is so high.

47:09 Speaker 1: I thought in my head.

47:10 Speaker 2: I even told a therapist, we will never leave our church, so I have to just figure out how to make it through all of these anxieties, stressors, blah blah blah, because she was like, why don't your parents just leave?

47:19 Speaker 1: I had a therapist quit on me because she was just like, I can't understand it. Quote on me.

47:25 Speaker 2: Okay, as a teenager, she was like, wow, wow, after a year, really really hurt me us. Imagine not I've never I had never met a person outside of that place in my whole life until I was a teenager.

47:41 Speaker 1: But yet I.

47:43 Speaker 2: Lost every single relationship I ever had one of my parents chose the church over me though I was going through like oh my own persecution. No, not physical or sexual abuse. Well, actually abuse would constitute because the teachers were allowed to spank us. So yeah, if your parents couldn't take off work to come down and spank you when it was deemed that you were being a problem child, like you were exhibiting behaviors that were not good, basically just being a kid. But you can't be a kid if you are trying to fight rambunctious spirits from you know, the devil and whatnot and that busybody spirit.

48:30 Speaker 1: This is pre understanding of ADHD and all that. So just us talking.

48:35 Speaker 2: I was the girl who's talking so much, talk so much, got detention by the certain by the first grade paddles.

48:41 Speaker 1: If the parents can take off work, they would call and be like, hey, do we have permission?

48:44 Speaker 2: And the parents would be like yeah, go ahead over the phone at their day jobs, at their day job, yeah, go ahead, I can't leave, So go ahead.

48:53 Speaker 3: And do it.

48:54 Speaker 2: But you tell her them when she gets home, she's gonna get an additional one because out there she embarrassed me like that, and embarrassed the Lord. High exit cost lost on my friends. Don't talk to none of them people I've only known those people, had to make all new friends when I became like an old teenager.

49:08 Speaker 1: It was very hard.

49:09 Speaker 2: A lot of it is a therapy fifteen years, like people still are instructed to not speak to me, like.

49:16 Speaker 1: This has gone on since twenty like twelve. It's so

49:23 Speaker 1: there are high exit costs. I know.

49:26 Speaker 2: All I wrote down was though there maybe I should write a book if this is all it took, if A managed.

49:31 Speaker 1: To write one.

49:32 Speaker 3: The fact that they clocked that, the fact that Kyle Sutton and Erica clocked it all at the same time. It was so interesting to see it because I don't think they actually compare notes before that.

49:46 Speaker 2: Nope, Like they're the ones who are like, so what you know they've had the same conversation. What did she come on the show for? And if it's not to process, it's to what get rich? Why do people weren't for president? I'm sorry, it's been a week.

50:03 Speaker 1: I'm sorry it slipped Mark, it slipped real.

50:09 Speaker 2: I thought it was to do the better for the people than voted. I mean, I thought it was to make friends with the girls.

50:18 Speaker 3: Thelma I did not agree to go off the cliff to you today. You're Mary, You're right.

50:22 Speaker 2: I had hold on, hold on, I got a hook. I'm gonna hitch it back on to that cliar. We're gonna pull ourselves back up. You mean to tell me that this girl, Amanda Francis did not want to come on here to be BFF with the.

50:34 Speaker 3: Likes of Kyle and Sutton now she could.

50:37 Speaker 2: Can you think she just wanted to sell her internet shit that you can't even get a charge back for in less than twelve hours.

50:46 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I'm sure you haven't even heard the latest scam today. Give it, she said on Virtual reality Tea with Evan Real and the other guy. They were talking with her and she said point blank. She goes, we have book club now where they get to see the chapters before they got a publication in May, and book club is having a great time with the book. They love the cult book. They say it's great. And then the guy asks, well, how do you get into the book club? She goes, Oh, you've got to go to the sales page and you can join the book club through the sales page.

51:23 Speaker 1: I just love a brif and and.

51:27 Speaker 3: There it is she sets that up the show. She set it up on the show. I'm going to write it about the cult, so people are going to think about the cult. And now she's mentioned she's got a book club where you can preview the book about the cult and you've got to pay to see it.

51:43 Speaker 2: And then yeah, and then you got to pay for the book because you know she's going to be like pre order pre order. She reminds me there's this like wellness guru of Scam Gurley that people always she'd been like promising y'all like a book or like a wellness tour or something for like a.

52:03 Speaker 3: Year's and.

52:07 Speaker 1: It's just giving. Amanda was not deterred but inspired when she heard that.

52:14 Speaker 3: She she stole her bit and.

52:18 Speaker 2: She listens to the scam influence, like Scamfluencer Jacu a podcast and she's like, no, wait a minute, how did they they made how much? It's not fair and she's like, we need to do it better.

52:32 Speaker 1: Like she came on this.

52:34 Speaker 2: Show to sell y'all her Manifestation in Cult documentary, a Cult Books, the Cult book that she even though she didn't want to talk about the cult all season long.

52:44 Speaker 3: You want to talk about the cult. No, they want to talk about your official routine that cannot scientifically be true.

52:51 Speaker 2: No, not at all. But you brought up the cult, so yeah, let's talk about it. She's like, I just don't know if I have the emotional bandwido, it's all of that. Well, baby, you better get the emotional band stamina if you're going to write a book about it.

53:06 Speaker 3: She was so deadpan and so flat and stale and so hers, which is.

53:13 Speaker 2: So crazy because yeah, because like there's it's interesting because I'm not doubting that's what she was in. I'm just doubting that it had the impact on her that she says it did, and that she's not co opting the idea of what it is to be out of a cult during this time where a lot of people are talking about cults and being a victim, recognizing she may have been in one, but she was also one of the lucky ones.

53:39 Speaker 1: But that's not a narrative that sells chapters.

53:42 Speaker 3: So I'm going to tell you right now she co opted their business playing quite nicely. Dad, I'm just saying.

53:51 Speaker 2: So listen, I don't know what that girl came on this show to do. But Kathy gave it to her. She said, next time walking the room, looking around, sit down and shut up.

54:02 Speaker 3: And wait, wait and know your place, your place.

54:06 Speaker 2: When she said look around the room and know your place, Erica cathol.

54:12 Speaker 1: And I said, my damnit, ej so did.

54:14 Speaker 3: I her confessionals, She goes, Kathy Hilton is one of the most put together women high class society. And there she tells you.

54:26 Speaker 2: Place short of Emily Post. She invented the fucking hotel industry. Okay, pray she had, and she's telling you know your place.

54:37 Speaker 1: I screamed for her. I said, girl, you must feel embarrassed. And she looked like she did. Richie said, did you see her having a great time?

54:47 Speaker 3: Did you see her eyes go to the man? His eyes go to the left wind that guy said her. She was pissed.

54:53 Speaker 1: Oh sopen, So what are you gonna do? Try to fight you. She can't let go of this facade. This is the facade that she is.

55:04 Speaker 2: She can't let it be so even she has to everything like she is still. But it took it.

55:11 Speaker 1: You saw it, take it. I saw the eyes too.

55:14 Speaker 3: But you know, every last fiber of her inner court wanted to grab the nearest kitchen knife run down that table.

55:21 Speaker 2: Yes, and get that pony to ride. Excuse me, why don't you breathe the broom?

55:29 Speaker 1: No your place?

55:30 Speaker 3: Okay, I can't not can I just be honest. That is the only thing that's happened this season was this table scene. This is the only.

55:39 Speaker 1: Thing that said that's it, this one.

55:43 Speaker 3: Part reunion because they're filming it.

55:45 Speaker 2: Was listen also, well, okay, you told me something, and run Bailey posted that it could be the first Beverly Hills one part reunion we have had almost ever did Yeah, he put on threads. He was like, today's the reunion day because today we're recording this on Friday, is the reunion day that their hosted or that they did the reunion. You told me Amanda is at the end. If Amanda is the class least favorite, and it's at the end of the couch, end of the couch, it's given. We might only need a forty five minute with some commercial breaks.

56:26 Speaker 2: Do you think you'll have more than one part? I can't imagine they might obligated because like ads, but I can't imagine what it would be about.

56:36 Speaker 3: There is nothing that deems this season three reunion parts. If there's no reunion part unless Derry, Kyle and Erica start swinging and throwing each other around. I'm not interested.

56:52 Speaker 2: No, and Kyle and nobody else is going to be taking that much more accountability this season when they don't have to.

56:57 Speaker 1: Amanda's right over there. If she won't think you don't truth.

57:00 Speaker 3: At all, Please tell me you saw that she does. Bag the sudden was eating Kyle sat down on it, and when Kyle was leaving and off in a huff, that bag was attached to her ass.

57:13 Speaker 2: And nobody told her that is amazing, incredible. Give that a whole, Give that a package, Give that Jaseel's package.

57:26 Speaker 1: I want to say.

57:28 Speaker 3: Everybody was like saying the same thing. Gizelle didn't need a package. Jaselle carried that whole season.

57:33 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, she didn't need a package. This season.

57:34 Speaker 2: We had a lot to do without her, like getting involved, like getting in the mess.

57:39 Speaker 3: And it was more than five I needed more than five minutes on that Colorado trip. We needed a whole episode on that Colorado I.

57:48 Speaker 2: Needed to know why that lady was let off the We had a lot. There was a lot there that we could have, you know, and.

57:54 Speaker 3: You sacrificed ATel for caring, come on.

57:57 Speaker 1: Man, Okay.

57:58 Speaker 2: In fact, I feel like we should go ahead and give the rest of the thirty minutes of the Beverly Hills realion on over to frequently asked questions about Potomac and other house that we haven't had yet.

58:13 Speaker 1: That'd be great.

58:15 Speaker 3: You need Amanda Francis and Stacy Roush to do a road trip together, I do.

58:21 Speaker 2: I feel like even Stace would be letting no, you're delusional,

58:26 Speaker 2: which would be great.

58:28 Speaker 1: I'm about to say you think Stacey did a deep dive. I mean you think.

58:32 Speaker 2: Jeri did a deep dive on you, Amanda, because she googled you and looked at Belave that you wrote.

58:40 Speaker 1: Arty. But you do know Ashley Darby that all Ady Wue do a deep dive.

58:47 Speaker 2: Investigator Darby gets on the train just to talk to people who have overboured and served Karen.

58:55 Speaker 1: Ashley doesn't need to be on the metro.

58:58 Speaker 2: If I don't need to be on the Metro, I know Ashley Darby don't need to be on the Metro.

59:02 Speaker 1: She live in Arlington. That's not easy.

59:04 Speaker 2: Where's she going talking to Karen Garen's old bartender. No, Ashley is doing the boots on the groundwork the streets so people can come to her with the tea.

59:15 Speaker 3: I'm sorry she wasn't at the courthouse with Terria, to be honest.

59:19 Speaker 2: Oh no, See that was too far for her. Not on the metro that day. She couldn't transfer like two different lines.

59:27 Speaker 1: That would be a lot. Probably couldn't get babysitting the kids. You know she is a mom.

59:35 Speaker 2: But listen, Aman, I don't know that Ashley gonna get you. She'll find out everything about that call. She would have talked to the youth pastor, the leader. Okay, she would have talked to him.

59:46 Speaker 1: She don't let Kenyan know. She would have brought him there. Hello, Blake, you were never cut out for a house while I was a baby.

1:00:02 Speaker 2: Why don't you go somewhere Else's Amanda Francis, Yes, facers, yes, Ronnor, I recognize her. Witness Exhibit A. It's her, it's the it's number three. Oh my goodness. I don't know what they're gonna talk about.

1:00:17 Speaker 3: I still want to know why they sequestered her away from the rest of the group for the after show. They had to refilm them all.

1:00:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would like to know.

1:00:25 Speaker 2: I feel like she probably did quit and came back, or they were I don't know, maybe she wanted to quit and they were like we'll fire you or and we'll find you or whatever. She's not about writing up a chat, so maybe she was like, Okay, I'll come back. I don't know.

1:00:37 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I'm speculating.

1:00:40 Speaker 3: I have no idea. I don't ask anybody. I just let the at it take me where it's going to take me. But when you glaringly pull a three month jump and you have to announce it's a three month jump into the future, and all the groups are different in the after show and Amanda's all by herself, something must happen in the next three makes that happen.

1:01:03 Speaker 2: Especially if you see that what you because what you said with this one in real time sudden Erica and Kyle, this is now in the refilmed ones are looking like why.

1:01:14 Speaker 1: They've asked since finishing the show, why has she come on this show?

1:01:20 Speaker 2: And then they're like, now that we're here, why do you think Because if we're being asked to do all this again and we know that you know she gone, she come back, and why do you think she did this? Then like, why go through all of this, and they were like, do you think And what got me was that Kyle was like, do you think we got in the way of her audience? But it's an ensemble cast, of course they did. We don't know you. Why would we give a shit about you selling anything, or promoting anything, or talking about anything which you didn't fact, how else are we going to learn about you if we don't know you?

1:01:58 Speaker 3: You gotta If she had come in a different way, yes, and and had still had this agenda, but had just carried herself a different way, more personable, more open, more feeling, I think everybody would have loved her.

1:02:17 Speaker 1: I do.

1:02:17 Speaker 2: I think if she just acted like she wanted to be a friend. The thing about see, sometimes I'd been like Narcissaius, you gotta do your work, You gotta work a little harder to mask the fact that you.

1:02:26 Speaker 1: Only care about yourself. And then you're stands here.

1:02:29 Speaker 3: She's even like her husband.

1:02:31 Speaker 1: No, she just like nobody. She's the most miserable woo woo bitch I've ever seen.

1:02:38 Speaker 3: And the way she hates bos. Oh she hates Boz.

1:02:42 Speaker 1: What's that given?

1:02:45 Speaker 3: Given a little race?

1:02:47 Speaker 2: Oh she's so mad. Bos is more rich than her. But that's what happens when you were a scammer.

1:02:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, this is only going to carry her for so long. I'm waiting for the indictment.

1:02:57 Speaker 1: Thank you.

1:02:57 Speaker 2: I was actually just telling what my wife was like. Let me tell you this one right here. She given scam energy vibes to me.

1:03:06 Speaker 1: I believe it.

1:03:06 Speaker 2: A lot of people believe it who were on in on ads, you know, Mark, believe it. You know they're they're they're scammy things. In which I say, I never know why they go on a reality show because then it's like the clink clink comes so soon after.

1:03:20 Speaker 1: It's only like you are.

1:03:21 Speaker 2: Doing when you go on one, and we can tell that you got scammy energy.

1:03:26 Speaker 1: I know it's likely true.

1:03:28 Speaker 3: And I all is as Peter Thomas or Jinshaw. Oh.

1:03:38 Speaker 2: On that note, she got a new wig this week. On that note, Mark, thank you so much.

1:03:45 Speaker 3: No, thank you.

1:03:46 Speaker 2: Have a blast as always, you made even talking about Beverly Hills fun.

1:03:52 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, look, that's my favorite show and it's fallen so far.

1:03:59 Speaker 2: No, I get it, and I've loved Beverly Hills since day one, episode one.

1:04:03 Speaker 1: I love it. I will always come a spot for it.

1:04:05 Speaker 2: That's why I still am talking about it right now though I'm not having a good time. But that's why, y'all we got you. We watching it, even if you not. We will get through it. We shall overcome, hopefully with only one part. Or do it like Meritive Medicine, how to do the Black Girls and give.

1:04:21 Speaker 1: It a one hour and a half reunion and we could all call it a day.

1:04:25 Speaker 3: Amen zoom.

1:04:27 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you guys, thank you so much for listening. That's been Mark, I've been money. You can find him on all the things at the Pink Pop Box and me on all the things at Mixing with Moni And we'll see you next week.

1:04:39 Speaker 1: Love you bye,