228. Weekly Mix in the Box (ANTM Doc on E! x RHOBH) w/Mark

0:00 Speaker 1: Sound struggled. Well.

0:11 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologists out there. It

0:16 Speaker 2: is your girl Moni and you are back in the

0:18 Speaker 2: mix with Moni and Mark. This is the Mix in

0:22 Speaker 2: the Box episode. I got my man's Mark here from

0:26 Speaker 2: the Pink Pop Box. How are you doing?

0:30 Speaker 3: They're good. It's been a week, but here we are.

0:33 Speaker 2: I know, right, it has been a week, and but

0:36 Speaker 2: here we are, and we have some things to talk about.

0:38 Speaker 2: And as hard as the week has been for us,

0:41 Speaker 2: I imagine it's been even harder for the likes of

0:44 Speaker 2: Tyra Banks. I don't think she saw what this was coming.

0:51 Speaker 2: We know that because when she sat down for that

0:53 Speaker 2: Netflix documentary, we both said we talked about how we

0:58 Speaker 2: felt like, there's no way in hell.

1:00 Speaker 1: She knew she was sitting there for the same show,

1:03 Speaker 1: which was great.

1:04 Speaker 2: It worked out to our advantage. Excellent program. I had

1:08 Speaker 2: a blast. I loved her not knowing what the hell

1:11 Speaker 2: she was doing, thinking we loved and wanted to review

1:13 Speaker 2: her and everybody else watching her on the MacBook and

1:16 Speaker 2: go at that bitch lion.

1:17 Speaker 1: That was great. But when I tell you.

1:22 Speaker 2: That E, the Girl's over at E S E E

1:29 Speaker 2: and the E is for eat her up e and

1:31 Speaker 2: the the E is for erase.

1:35 Speaker 1: That ego okay, drag her okay.

1:39 Speaker 2: It was giving e true Hollywood story, which if you listened,

1:42 Speaker 2: I said even last week. I loved the true Hollywood

1:46 Speaker 2: stories back in the day. I used to even talk

1:49 Speaker 2: about watching them with my.

1:50 Speaker 1: Friend Preston r. I p.

1:53 Speaker 2: Too with uh In Stafford, and it was incredible to

1:59 Speaker 2: me that it has gone away for so so long,

2:04 Speaker 2: that docu style go behind the scenes, open up the curtain.

2:09 Speaker 2: We haven't seen that, especially only in so long. Even

2:11 Speaker 2: though they really held the the they held the thes

2:14 Speaker 2: on that for the longest time. They were really pulling

2:17 Speaker 2: back the curtain on everything pop culture, every show they

2:20 Speaker 2: used to do, like the ones about like full House

2:22 Speaker 2: and like you know, found Out, but that one gagged me.

2:28 Speaker 2: That's how I found out people were gay.

2:29 Speaker 1: I was young. I didn't know.

2:32 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I loved it. It was very expose

2:35 Speaker 2: a style back in the day. But that I was

2:37 Speaker 2: before we had social media, before we had TikTok and

2:39 Speaker 2: girl he's telling their own story right.

2:42 Speaker 1: Not separate of that.

2:44 Speaker 2: Some of the girlies even here that's set down for

2:46 Speaker 2: both of these documentaries have told their own stories on

2:49 Speaker 2: their own social media.

2:50 Speaker 1: Is not not no.

2:52 Speaker 2: Less famous than Lisa Diamatto, Like I'm always hearing about

2:58 Speaker 2: her whenever I would look up up what are the

3:01 Speaker 2: girls doing since America's Next Top Model because I've seen

3:03 Speaker 2: none of them, like I used to look for them

3:05 Speaker 2: out in the world after they won as a young,

3:08 Speaker 2: impressionable teenager who thought that the America's Next Top Model

3:13 Speaker 2: show would produce some top models.

3:17 Speaker 1: Silly ass, what were the girls? I don't what?

3:22 Speaker 2: And now Eden pulled back that curtain and told us

3:25 Speaker 2: why that is the case, Honey, It's not like we

3:29 Speaker 2: didn't know. If you did watch that news documentary, you

3:34 Speaker 2: told me some things that we knew even before that.

3:37 Speaker 2: It was like, this is all public. We'll see what

3:39 Speaker 2: Netflix even has to offer on top of that, because the.

3:42 Speaker 1: Girl was de Lulu, and what they had to offer was.

3:44 Speaker 2: Her sitting down and sharing that delusional nature with us.

3:48 Speaker 3: That hell, every last damn minute of her delusion.

3:53 Speaker 2: Too, because I was like, oh, no, I believe because

3:56 Speaker 2: that actually set me up for the perfect layup for

3:58 Speaker 2: this docu series where this was smart, This was so gritty.

4:04 Speaker 2: This was very like get down to the nitty gritty

4:07 Speaker 2: and really exposed.

4:09 Speaker 1: Exposed.

4:10 Speaker 2: Oh, it's practices, worse practices, not best, real bad shit.

4:17 Speaker 1: It was real bad over there on that set.

4:19 Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, but that Netflix documentary set

4:22 Speaker 2: me up to believe she could absolutely do any of this.

4:25 Speaker 3: Yep, yep, and.

4:28 Speaker 1: Look select she did.

4:29 Speaker 2: And you know what's crazy is having watched the Netflix

4:32 Speaker 2: one and heard her say, even to that little bit

4:36 Speaker 2: that they confronted her with, then well, I didn't have

4:38 Speaker 2: anything to do with the editing stuff.

4:40 Speaker 1: And all the people in.

4:41 Speaker 2: That one said, no, that's untrue. We know that, right,

4:44 Speaker 2: it's her name on everything. But baby, he said, let's

4:48 Speaker 2: take that, and I want you to turn back to

4:50 Speaker 2: that page. Let's revisit that she didn't have just the

4:54 Speaker 2: last say. She had the first say, the only say.

4:57 Speaker 2: She cut up, the say. She put the says together,

5:00 Speaker 2: She placed the saves on top of each other, and

5:02 Speaker 2: if you thought you had a say, she would say

5:05 Speaker 2: to you, you don't have no say. I want to

5:08 Speaker 2: tell that girl story on this episode right here, right.

5:10 Speaker 1: Now like this.

5:11 Speaker 2: I mean, wow, no, baby, there was some dark shit

5:15 Speaker 2: that happened on this one, Okay, I mean there was.

5:17 Speaker 1: I found myself writing in my notes a.

5:19 Speaker 2: Lot justice for dot dot dot, and then at one

5:22 Speaker 2: point I just started a bullet pointed list.

5:25 Speaker 1: Did you yes?

5:28 Speaker 2: Because I mean, like, let's see you start with the

5:31 Speaker 2: girl who started losing weight on the show because she

5:35 Speaker 2: was booked. She was casting as a as an quote

5:39 Speaker 2: unquote plus size model.

5:41 Speaker 1: You at the ripe size of like eight.

5:45 Speaker 2: Every plus size person I know right now is like,

5:48 Speaker 2: let me get a size eight listen and a roe

5:53 Speaker 2: Ann last week, please I understand it. But she talking

5:58 Speaker 2: about into two thousands this I believe her name is Sarah.

6:02 Speaker 1: She was cast it as a plus size model.

6:06 Speaker 2: However, the way the show is set up, everybody's losing weight,

6:11 Speaker 2: you're not eating, you're stressed as hal It's a hot

6:14 Speaker 2: stress environment all the time. We now find out that

6:17 Speaker 2: the way they're producing clips and segments and things of

6:21 Speaker 2: each other, and the what we're seeing the emotional reactions

6:24 Speaker 2: they're talking about some dark shit or confronting them with

6:26 Speaker 2: some real producer shit. Tyra Tyra Becks is pulling real

6:31 Speaker 2: producer Bachelor style production, like evil shit, get them riled up,

6:39 Speaker 2: panic crying, and then be like you've made it to

6:42 Speaker 2: the next round. You're beautiful, gorgeous. I can't believe how

6:45 Speaker 2: gorgeous you are for a thick girl. Oh my god.

6:47 Speaker 1: But then girly loses weight and they're like, we don't

6:51 Speaker 1: know what to.

6:52 Speaker 3: Do with you when she starts, what's going on?

6:57 Speaker 2: Yes, like, oh so now you're a neck in between

6:59 Speaker 2: where you're not quite high fashion, but you're not quite

7:02 Speaker 2: plus sized either.

7:04 Speaker 1: So what do we do?

7:06 Speaker 2: I used to really sit there and I want to

7:08 Speaker 2: slap Tyral, like I really want to call her a

7:10 Speaker 2: hold on her face, because I really sat there thinking

7:13 Speaker 2: she was really in partant wisdom on these bitches.

7:17 Speaker 1: She was traumatizing these ladies.

7:23 Speaker 2: Backwards and forward, ripping their assholes a new one with

7:28 Speaker 2: some of the shit.

7:28 Speaker 1: Bringing up They trauma on camera.

7:31 Speaker 2: They mama's dying, They daddy's abusing them, They mama's abusing them,

7:36 Speaker 2: and what's wrong with you? Just to be like, but

7:40 Speaker 2: you're so beautiful in a sweatsuit, here's your picture, you're

7:42 Speaker 2: going to hollow.

7:44 Speaker 3: The worst part was she said, lamee Brian won't look

7:46 Speaker 3: at you, and Victoria's secret won't look at you. What

7:49 Speaker 3: are you going to do? I was like, you just said.

7:52 Speaker 2: That, are those the only two options? Also, which is crazy.

7:57 Speaker 3: Honey, you said a mouthful right there, and.

8:00 Speaker 1: She really did.

8:01 Speaker 2: It's a shot and it's not lost to me. I

8:02 Speaker 2: want to shout out at the up here before we

8:05 Speaker 2: even get there that you.

8:06 Speaker 1: Know the where are they now? Kenya one of my.

8:09 Speaker 2: Justice force who was sexually assaulted on the show.

8:14 Speaker 1: But this is why I put on threads.

8:16 Speaker 2: I need ray SONI to actually be in every pop

8:19 Speaker 2: culture documentary that we do because I need her to

8:22 Speaker 2: provide culture critique because she is a culture critic as

8:27 Speaker 2: they listed her as I'm just a fan from Twitter

8:30 Speaker 2: since day one. I need her to do it for

8:33 Speaker 2: everything because when she said not only because I was like, no, yeah,

8:36 Speaker 2: maybe Kenya should have been professional. Maybe I guess as

8:39 Speaker 2: a kid, I'm being formed. I'm like, okay, so in

8:43 Speaker 2: those situations you should know how to continue on, yeah,

8:45 Speaker 2: you're right, and then to be like, yeah, but it's

8:48 Speaker 2: a fake shoot girls, real assault, fake shoot? What whoa

8:55 Speaker 2: that did that hit me? It was like, oh, it.

8:57 Speaker 1: Takes you out of it. Because I was a kid,

8:58 Speaker 1: I was impressionable.

9:00 Speaker 2: You're watching television, You're thinking, this is what it takes,

9:03 Speaker 2: and you know what a lot of times they even

9:04 Speaker 2: bring up. Tyra Banks is working out a lot of

9:06 Speaker 2: her own personal abuse and shit and on this show,

9:11 Speaker 2: on their show, yeah, she was doing it on that

9:14 Speaker 2: projecting left, right and center.

9:16 Speaker 1: However, you were supposed to do differently.

9:19 Speaker 2: You had to put up with or figure out a

9:22 Speaker 2: way to work with a sexual assault allegedly in real

9:25 Speaker 2: time at a runway show.

9:26 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry that it's gross f him.

9:29 Speaker 2: If that designer everybody involved today, they literally would get canceled.

9:34 Speaker 2: So I don't even want to like hear that. You

9:36 Speaker 2: know she did the right thing, then she should have.

9:39 Speaker 2: She deserved more, Tyra Banks, and so do these girls.

9:43 Speaker 2: For this fake show. You creating a situation where more

9:47 Speaker 2: people can experience the trauma that you experienced. It's not

9:51 Speaker 2: that's cruel, that's hazing, that's bullying, that's that's abuse at

9:57 Speaker 2: the hands of an abused person. But as you know,

10:01 Speaker 2: you know, Marilyn Manson and them.

10:03 Speaker 1: They had helpers abuse. Girlies can do abuse. But Tyra

10:10 Speaker 1: King was one of my justice force. She was like

10:12 Speaker 1: number one.

10:13 Speaker 2: I was very happy to see that at the end

10:15 Speaker 2: of this she's helping models in the ways that.

10:19 Speaker 1: Tyro was supposed to.

10:21 Speaker 2: And I was happy to see that, not because she oh,

10:24 Speaker 2: they all deserved modeling careers. But when Kinga sat down superficially,

10:28 Speaker 2: I said, that is a gorgeous woman.

10:30 Speaker 3: Gorgeous.

10:31 Speaker 2: God damn well she said that. I said, book her, girl,

10:35 Speaker 2: I'll buy it. So to know she got work and

10:38 Speaker 2: it's now helping other women. I think that's awesome and

10:41 Speaker 2: uplifting them, not breaking them down, because apparently every single

10:46 Speaker 2: one of these women, both on both cock games, but

10:48 Speaker 2: definitely on this one, said that tiffany conversation we were

10:55 Speaker 2: all rooting for you did not give big brother, big sister,

11:00 Speaker 2: my auntie Tyra type friend even like looking out checking

11:05 Speaker 2: for her at all.

11:07 Speaker 1: Tyra was pissed that you were not broken up.

11:10 Speaker 2: More about the fact that your fake ass opportunity, that

11:14 Speaker 2: the bill of goods that she sold you.

11:15 Speaker 1: You were not upset about losing.

11:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, she was hurt.

11:20 Speaker 2: Her feelings were hurt. Have you ever seen a narcissist

11:24 Speaker 2: get their feelings hurt before?

11:25 Speaker 1: I have.

11:26 Speaker 2: I was raised by one, and goddamn when they when

11:33 Speaker 2: when their feelings are her baby, the whole parking lot

11:35 Speaker 2: will hear it. And that's not a fake sentence. I

11:38 Speaker 2: never forget. Oh, Jesus, let me not air my old

11:43 Speaker 2: parents out.

11:44 Speaker 1: But I was like, sir, we are in the suburbs.

11:48 Speaker 2: Can you police lower your voice talking to my mama

11:53 Speaker 2: all kinds aloud because you are offended.

11:56 Speaker 1: It is the parking lot and we live in Elicut

12:01 Speaker 1: of Maryland. What are you doing?

12:03 Speaker 2: Yes, honey, I was into suburbs at this point. I

12:06 Speaker 2: was like, what are you doing? You cannot be yelling

12:09 Speaker 2: it out and you can't be narcissists in the suburbs.

12:11 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Mama, we gotta move.

12:14 Speaker 1: Not in the streets.

12:15 Speaker 2: They put roundabouts in because they don't like the bus

12:19 Speaker 2: stops having people go forty miles per hour by it.

12:23 Speaker 2: Oh god, the kids, God forbid, they don't see a

12:26 Speaker 2: truck coming at them, you know. Anyways, speaking of people

12:30 Speaker 2: trying to get out of their situations, a lot of

12:33 Speaker 2: the conversation around even this documentary with that, I again

12:36 Speaker 2: appreciate the commentary of the different the experts, not just

12:42 Speaker 2: the models and the abuse and the people complicit, right, IT'SOK,

12:45 Speaker 2: no accountability. They have people who were like helping you

12:48 Speaker 2: break down and dissect and process what it is that

12:52 Speaker 2: you're both looking at and peacing with what was actually

12:56 Speaker 2: happening and putting together that what you experienced were not good.

13:00 Speaker 2: Finding out that I need to look her at her

13:03 Speaker 2: name up baby girl with the alopecia, gorgeous woman. Yeah,

13:09 Speaker 2: the whole time she was getting a wig, just to

13:12 Speaker 2: be told real time on camera and edit. The whole

13:17 Speaker 2: season they had us thinking that she was so thrilled

13:20 Speaker 2: to have a bald head and it did not even

13:24 Speaker 2: occur to me. Mark, did you remember this that that

13:28 Speaker 2: was the first year it wasn't a makeup brand, it

13:33 Speaker 2: was a hair brand.

13:35 Speaker 3: Yes, ma'amh Diaba. Well no, you know what really freaked

13:40 Speaker 3: me out was the sleeping situation when they talked about

13:43 Speaker 3: the sleeping quarters.

13:45 Speaker 1: Yes, I couldn't even what what are you? I don't

13:49 Speaker 1: remember everything it was.

13:51 Speaker 3: It was they literally locked them basically in their hotel rooms,

13:57 Speaker 3: two girls deep, and they weren't to leave. Food got

14:02 Speaker 3: shipped into them. I'm like the.

14:04 Speaker 2: Fact that they were consistently also told what what do

14:07 Speaker 2: they keep saying? Girly who was like, I quit modeling

14:12 Speaker 2: to become I quit being a plus size model to

14:14 Speaker 2: become a real plus sized purse.

14:19 Speaker 1: Girl. Eat ita love it.

14:21 Speaker 2: That was a fantastic Joe glad you're doing stand up comedy. Wow,

14:25 Speaker 2: this list of Justice Force is so fucking long. But yeah,

14:29 Speaker 2: she was what she said that they kept saying to

14:31 Speaker 2: them also, like if you break whatever part of this

14:35 Speaker 2: contract or whatever part of your of your what you know,

14:39 Speaker 2: if you break the rules, we will you will lose

14:43 Speaker 2: out of your like residuals or something in like forever

14:48 Speaker 2: for the rest of your life.

14:51 Speaker 1: They're not getting paid.

14:53 Speaker 3: They're not getting paid, you asshole.

14:55 Speaker 1: What the hell is that?

14:57 Speaker 2: You used to think the girls were gonna be so

14:59 Speaker 2: excited to get that seven hundred or one hundred thousand

15:03 Speaker 2: dollars they were gonna get that cover that contract.

15:07 Speaker 1: We knew the.

15:08 Speaker 2: Girls weren't working even though they were getting Yeah, we

15:12 Speaker 2: knew that. I mean I remember quite literally seeing jazz

15:16 Speaker 2: Leene on a Forever twenty one ad in the store

15:20 Speaker 2: in the mall two decades ago, almost a decade ago,

15:26 Speaker 2: like a long time ago.

15:28 Speaker 1: I remember that and being so shock.

15:30 Speaker 2: She was one of like maybe the four people I

15:31 Speaker 2: saw in real in the real world working like from

15:36 Speaker 2: that show. And now we know it was in spite

15:38 Speaker 2: of the show, but in general, I was like, Okay,

15:41 Speaker 2: so we knew they weren't working. I assume they at

15:43 Speaker 2: least got the you know they contract with cover girl

15:45 Speaker 2: Adrian talking about, Yeah, they would fly me places to

15:48 Speaker 2: stay there next to the stuff. I couldn't be in

15:51 Speaker 2: any other ads. I was basically just like a the

15:54 Speaker 2: Ashley Tisdale Disney girl that if they couldn't get a

15:57 Speaker 2: hand in Montana, they got an America's Next Stuff model

16:00 Speaker 2: girl to just sit next to the cover girl lip

16:06 Speaker 2: bombs at a trade show where the real models walk something.

16:09 Speaker 3: Else that's so embarrassing.

16:13 Speaker 1: That's awful, and the rest of them.

16:16 Speaker 2: They were actually just promised the opportunity to book and

16:22 Speaker 2: bill about one hundred thousand dollars worth of work through

16:27 Speaker 2: the agency. However, if they could not get that work

16:33 Speaker 2: for you, oh well, that was simply just like it

16:38 Speaker 2: on the same page you went it.

16:40 Speaker 3: For what I need to know? What did you think

16:43 Speaker 3: about all the other ex judge that showed up?

16:47 Speaker 1: Missus Janis Dickinson, she won't be over here.

16:52 Speaker 2: Let me tell you why she was Like, Okay, I

16:57 Speaker 2: was a dick, So because I was a dick, can

17:00 Speaker 2: tell you I was not the biggest dick on that show.

17:03 Speaker 2: I got out dicked all the time by that lady.

17:07 Speaker 2: I know I was a dick, but so was she. Okay,

17:10 Speaker 2: she was an even bigger one. You thought I was

17:12 Speaker 2: bad or they kept that in all of my bad

17:15 Speaker 2: dick behavior so that she would look like so that

17:19 Speaker 2: Tara would look like a better person.

17:22 Speaker 1: How many times did it when she was sticking up?

17:25 Speaker 3: Yeah?

17:25 Speaker 1: What are we enforcing in the industry? If we do that?

17:28 Speaker 2: She needs to lose weight? Janis would say that we

17:30 Speaker 2: get so mad at Janis, But Tarra is the one

17:34 Speaker 2: telling her fashion don't know what to do with you,

17:37 Speaker 2: and you're too fat but too skinny, and so which

17:42 Speaker 2: is it?

17:42 Speaker 1: It's your show.

17:43 Speaker 3: I just knew there was no love loss between them.

17:45 Speaker 3: This documentary cemented that for me.

17:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, of course not, and I'm glad about it.

17:53 Speaker 2: I don't think any of them actually deserve real peace

17:55 Speaker 2: post this show. That might be a hot take, but

17:58 Speaker 2: I everybody, all of them are complicity I do, I

18:03 Speaker 2: really do. And then some and more should be had

18:06 Speaker 2: because Tyra really crazy. If she thinks she bringing this

18:08 Speaker 2: shit back.

18:09 Speaker 3: I don't think it's good, not now, Not that.

18:13 Speaker 2: I can't imagine she really thinks that she was going

18:15 Speaker 2: to But that was before this E one aired, she's

18:17 Speaker 2: been hinting at it.

18:18 Speaker 1: I hope she stays her.

18:19 Speaker 2: Ass over there in Australia, where they also informed us

18:23 Speaker 2: that her starting this brand of America's next to our

18:26 Speaker 2: model and it being global, she is getting fat checks

18:30 Speaker 2: across the board for a whole of these other ones

18:34 Speaker 2: who are using her idea. She has it, you know,

18:38 Speaker 2: the copyright and whatnot, the idea. They can call it

18:41 Speaker 2: their own country, but boy do they still give her

18:43 Speaker 2: a little coiny Coin.

18:44 Speaker 1: Did not know that did not either.

18:47 Speaker 2: I was like they were like, no, Tyra was getting

18:50 Speaker 2: fat checks the whole time that she was abusing these

18:54 Speaker 2: girlies across the world, and she's ray Sonnie was also

18:58 Speaker 2: right when she was like, hey, you're not giving a

19:02 Speaker 2: talk show to any other model. You're only gonna give

19:08 Speaker 2: a talk show to the person that you see every week,

19:12 Speaker 2: to somebody that is ingraining your TV. And that's ahle

19:15 Speaker 2: Tyer really wanted eventually also was to be she want

19:19 Speaker 2: to be bankable.

19:20 Speaker 1: I'll never forget when.

19:21 Speaker 2: She changed her production stream from Tyra Banks Productions to

19:26 Speaker 2: Bankable Productions to it being going from like a word

19:31 Speaker 2: title to on her talk show. Is when it changed

19:36 Speaker 2: in like season two or three, Bankable as a safe

19:41 Speaker 2: and like close and I remember going someone got production

19:45 Speaker 2: coins now and I was in like the eighth grade

19:47 Speaker 2: watching this and thinking like, wow.

19:51 Speaker 3: Tyra got question, remember that I do.

19:54 Speaker 2: It's the neeral divergence. Baby, the pop culture is stuck

19:57 Speaker 2: with me. This was my happy place, my carved.

19:59 Speaker 1: Out side of the world.

20:01 Speaker 2: Okay, the this is I would come home and I

20:05 Speaker 2: would be in the courts and talk shows from like

20:09 Speaker 2: two forty to five o'clock. I'm rewatching the View and

20:13 Speaker 2: Wendy and Tyra and the courts.

20:16 Speaker 1: I will, you know, Judge jot.

20:17 Speaker 3: Lane, I know that was my blood.

20:20 Speaker 1: That's my bill.

20:21 Speaker 2: Wendy every day is a hot like that's my I

20:23 Speaker 2: call it hot topics because of that lady. I know

20:26 Speaker 2: she claims it was the View. They gave it to her,

20:29 Speaker 2: but it was Wendy. They gave it to me. And

20:31 Speaker 2: I hope to you know, live up. This is the

20:34 Speaker 2: stuff she would be talking about. I think that Wendy

20:36 Speaker 2: would definitely have watched this documentary series on e Dirty

20:41 Speaker 2: Rotten Scandals, these last two episodes, and she absolutely what

20:44 Speaker 2: have us talking right here right now about all of

20:49 Speaker 2: these same things. Okay, let me tell you they got

20:55 Speaker 2: so many people. I was impressed to see Joanna House.

20:58 Speaker 1: She was the winner exacle.

21:00 Speaker 2: Remember when she was still working she replaced Elizabeth hasselback

21:04 Speaker 2: on like Stu for Less or something like that on

21:07 Speaker 2: the Style Channel all those years ago. I was so excited.

21:10 Speaker 2: She had that mohawk. I thought it was awful. But

21:12 Speaker 2: I was like, she is from America's next toime model.

21:15 Speaker 2: The girls are working, look at Tyra go and Tyra

21:18 Speaker 2: apparently was telling us the same thing.

21:20 Speaker 1: She was like, oh yeah, they're all working. They're so rich.

21:25 Speaker 1: Liar all of them. The whole lot.

21:27 Speaker 2: They talked about the switch and language, which is so

21:29 Speaker 2: funny because if you read the book Cultish by.

21:34 Speaker 1: I forget her name, she hosts the show Cultish. I

21:39 Speaker 1: think sounds like a cult. She hosts the show sounds

21:43 Speaker 1: like a cult.

21:43 Speaker 2: But the book Cultish that she wrote and based the

21:45 Speaker 2: podcast off of, is what they also brought up in

21:49 Speaker 2: this documentary because the language what constantizes that as a

21:54 Speaker 2: cult is like when you do things like adopt a

21:57 Speaker 2: certain language or and you make us believe look that

22:00 Speaker 2: that that is the language. And they thought something I

22:02 Speaker 2: thought was interesting was first season, Supermodel season two and

22:08 Speaker 2: on Top Model, we never hear a supermodel again. They

22:12 Speaker 2: point that out. I thought that was absolutely fascinated that

22:16 Speaker 2: she really did have us completely changed the tune and

22:19 Speaker 2: tenor of everything down to the point of like she

22:22 Speaker 2: was following the cult handbook actually so verbatim that by

22:26 Speaker 2: the time we get to All Stars years later, they're

22:30 Speaker 2: putting paper bags over their heads and putting them in

22:34 Speaker 2: a van to go to the on location set where

22:38 Speaker 2: they will be doing there and drive them around for

22:40 Speaker 2: like two hours or something like that.

22:43 Speaker 1: Two hours they put that.

22:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, they put that girl in the closet for forty minutes. Lisa,

22:48 Speaker 2: they put her in the closet for forty minutes to make

22:50 Speaker 2: her talk about her trauma on the Tyra.

22:52 Speaker 1: Banks Show, even though she said she didn't want to.

22:54 Speaker 2: For two hours, they drove them around so they wouldn't

22:56 Speaker 2: know where they were going on All Stars. And that's

22:59 Speaker 2: where we get You know that I have my justice

23:01 Speaker 2: for Angelie and uh Lisa Diamato because they were on

23:07 Speaker 2: the All Star season.

23:09 Speaker 1: Did you know that.

23:12 Speaker 3: Won?

23:13 Speaker 1: Yeah? And it was taken from her.

23:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so then they put they let us wonder

23:21 Speaker 2: what happened so that we would wonder why she was disqualified, yep,

23:27 Speaker 2: so that they could then reshoot a very piss poor

23:32 Speaker 2: fake ass second second fake runway for a new fake

23:38 Speaker 2: ally to go ahead and give it to Lisa after

23:42 Speaker 2: disqualifying Angelie because okay, also it's flying her to the

23:48 Speaker 2: Mandarin Oriental and making her stay at a high class,

23:52 Speaker 2: high value, five star hotel to talk about sponsorships and

23:57 Speaker 2: actually be like, we're taking away your title because you

24:02 Speaker 2: engaged in sex work.

24:03 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on how they did this sing

24:06 Speaker 1: to this girl?

24:07 Speaker 3: And here's the thing, And I've always had this viewpoint,

24:12 Speaker 3: everybody's got a pass and how the hell can you

24:16 Speaker 3: rise above your past and better yourself if nobody lets

24:21 Speaker 3: you do it? And that's and I think that at

24:27 Speaker 3: that time and place in the world, they were scared

24:32 Speaker 3: to have that past attached to their brand because then

24:37 Speaker 3: they would be advocating for sex work. Nowadays, people say, oh,

24:42 Speaker 3: I was in the adult film industry, and but.

24:45 Speaker 2: You got all that fans models who would probably sign

24:47 Speaker 2: up right now to do thank you.

24:51 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure my neighbor down the street has

24:53 Speaker 3: an only fans account.

24:54 Speaker 2: I don't know about it, and that's probably why they're

24:57 Speaker 2: able to pay for the house they live.

24:59 Speaker 3: So that's right, nice exactly.

25:04 Speaker 2: No, I completely agree. I think that, and I think

25:11 Speaker 2: it's so I do think it's so hypocritical, because one,

25:14 Speaker 2: I don't think you didn't.

25:15 Speaker 3: Know that they knew what was the purpose?

25:20 Speaker 2: If you knew that of her, and you knew you

25:25 Speaker 2: had this moral high ground standing and connection.

25:31 Speaker 1: With your own show, what will what.

25:34 Speaker 2: Will suffice with the brands that are sponsoring it?

25:39 Speaker 1: I just doubt that.

25:42 Speaker 2: Why would you cast somebody that you don't think has

25:46 Speaker 2: the possibility of going all the way to the end.

25:49 Speaker 1: If you cast somebody they could be on the show.

25:51 Speaker 3: I think they knew she was going to go that far.

25:54 Speaker 3: She was just that good.

25:55 Speaker 2: I think they didn't know that. But also, it's all stars.

25:58 Speaker 2: That's kind of the point. I just don't feel like

26:01 Speaker 2: I feel like you shot yourself in the foot having

26:05 Speaker 2: her on the show.

26:06 Speaker 1: Knowing you were always going to have to disqualify her.

26:10 Speaker 3: At the How do I say this? They didn't care.

26:14 Speaker 3: They wanted that drama, they wanted that last minute drama.

26:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it goes to Lisa, which is crazy,

26:24 Speaker 2: no tea, no shade.

26:25 Speaker 1: Lisa is a great woman.

26:29 Speaker 3: But but but next also next to Allison, because I

26:33 Speaker 3: remember Alison with the Doe.

26:35 Speaker 1: I remember her, like they're like, I think about Alison

26:40 Speaker 1: at least once a year.

26:42 Speaker 3: What's she doing?

26:44 Speaker 2: I do wonder because she looks just so I just

26:47 Speaker 2: saw her look was. There were some people they would

26:50 Speaker 2: cast on that show that I was like, there's no

26:52 Speaker 2: way they won't get work after this look at them,

26:55 Speaker 2: And I think that was also the problem. The prettier

26:58 Speaker 2: they were, the more tyra to break you down.

27:01 Speaker 3: I just wonder if some of them just lost their

27:03 Speaker 3: spirit for it after it was over.

27:06 Speaker 1: I do think they did. I do think they did.

27:08 Speaker 2: I mean we even saw and talked about how there

27:11 Speaker 2: were some there was domestic violence, there was uh, there

27:14 Speaker 2: was people being in really a bad way after this show.

27:17 Speaker 1: There's got a number on them.

27:19 Speaker 2: And you know, one of the things, one of the

27:21 Speaker 2: criteria also for what constitutes something as a cult is

27:24 Speaker 2: having a high exit cost for getting out. These women

27:29 Speaker 2: have the highest exit cost I've ever seen. I Mean,

27:34 Speaker 2: they're sitting there talking on a documentary almost twenty years later.

27:37 Speaker 3: And they're still trying, They're still aft up.

27:39 Speaker 1: They're still affed up.

27:41 Speaker 2: They're still so traumatized, like they're still processing things and

27:46 Speaker 2: working through stuff, and things are wounds that are still

27:50 Speaker 2: so open like that they are working really hard to

27:53 Speaker 2: move past every day while Tyra makes hot ice cream

27:57 Speaker 2: in Australia, warm milkshakes or whatever the hell them and

28:04 Speaker 2: smising and sending y'all a smile you'll never forget.

28:08 Speaker 1: I thought Tara Banks was on drugs like six years ago.

28:11 Speaker 2: This was one hundred percent in my head because she

28:13 Speaker 2: went on Watch What Happens Live.

28:17 Speaker 3: What you're talking about, I.

28:19 Speaker 2: Know you do, and that's why I love you and

28:21 Speaker 2: that's why you're here and we do the show together weekly.

28:23 Speaker 2: Because she went on there and she had like a

28:26 Speaker 2: camp or some shit I want to say, also in

28:30 Speaker 2: a trench coat. I do know it was a bad

28:32 Speaker 2: wig though. I remember that wig was awful. I remember

28:35 Speaker 2: being like.

28:36 Speaker 1: Wow, is she okay? It's the money dried up.

28:39 Speaker 2: I was concerned about her money so much so because

28:44 Speaker 2: of the wig. But she was talking about this camp

28:47 Speaker 2: like a smile a digital.

28:50 Speaker 1: It's gonna sound like I'm making this up, and y'all,

28:52 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it was any more hinged when.

28:56 Speaker 2: She announced that it would be a camp for girl

29:01 Speaker 2: modeling online. You could play an online version and an

29:06 Speaker 2: in real life version. You could go to it and

29:10 Speaker 2: spend a lot of money to learn how to model

29:13 Speaker 2: in Smie dead ass at this camp. This is pre

29:18 Speaker 2: hot ice free. This was venture number one. I was like,

29:23 Speaker 2: she came out of retirement to tell us about a

29:25 Speaker 2: what at camp? At camp with a game online? Is

29:30 Speaker 2: it webkins? What is it?

29:32 Speaker 1: Is it online? What is it sim I don't understand.

29:36 Speaker 1: I loved it.

29:37 Speaker 2: I had so many Oh my god, I was I've

29:39 Speaker 2: always been just a girly.

29:41 Speaker 1: Like online building homes with little like things. But that's

29:45 Speaker 1: what she said, that we were gonna be able to.

29:47 Speaker 2: Do with real people and or I could pay ten

29:50 Speaker 2: thousand dollars to go to California on the model. At thirteen,

29:58 Speaker 2: I was like, I know about this, which is crazy

30:03 Speaker 2: because what was.

30:05 Speaker 3: It that summer camp that looked surprisingly like Jones?

30:12 Speaker 2: Listen, we already got to stand from prison experiment. Maybe

30:15 Speaker 2: she put bags on the kids hands too too far?

30:20 Speaker 2: Or is that too far?

30:22 Speaker 1: Listen? Justice for Ebony the first gay on the show.

30:25 Speaker 3: She didn't want to be.

30:26 Speaker 1: But they outed her anyway.

30:30 Speaker 3: Wow, they did that.

30:33 Speaker 1: That is awful. That was that is awful. I've been

30:37 Speaker 1: out of before. That is awful and that was not

30:39 Speaker 1: on TV.

30:40 Speaker 3: That is my voice out. What can I say?

30:43 Speaker 2: All Right, you got Sarah, Justice for the two fat,

30:49 Speaker 2: too thin model, Justice for jazz Line, the first Latina

30:52 Speaker 2: even know. A couple of years before they were like

30:53 Speaker 2: no Latinas, but then here she go.

30:56 Speaker 1: Justice for Lisa. She won when she really shouldn't have.

31:01 Speaker 1: So now we all hate her, but we don't need

31:03 Speaker 1: to hate her. They kind.

31:06 Speaker 2: But it's not her fault and she knows that. And

31:08 Speaker 2: she even said they definitely set her up. I feel

31:11 Speaker 2: like they set her up and I hate that.

31:12 Speaker 1: I am a part of this.

31:14 Speaker 2: Like hello Joanne. That justice for Joanna. She is the

31:19 Speaker 2: woman with alopecia. She now has young daughters, and she

31:22 Speaker 2: is like, let me tell.

31:24 Speaker 1: You, they want you a wig.

31:25 Speaker 2: Please know they will then shave your patchy haired head

31:30 Speaker 2: on TV for everyone's amusement, similarly to how they'll close

31:35 Speaker 2: someone's a black woman's gap and open up a white

31:37 Speaker 2: woman's cap for TV for amusement. We're just out here

31:43 Speaker 2: mutilating whole humans.

31:44 Speaker 3: It's fine, And yes, here comes Tyrol and watch What

31:47 Speaker 3: Happens Live with her best shaken wear.

31:51 Speaker 4: Exactly, that's Joanna's wig. Justice for Angela absolutely or sure

32:01 Speaker 4: or Angelie. I really think that she deserves an apology.

32:06 Speaker 3: She'll never get it.

32:08 Speaker 1: No, she'll never get it.

32:09 Speaker 2: The fact that there are two networks that can make

32:10 Speaker 2: two separate documentaries with enough people that are owed an

32:14 Speaker 2: apology from the same person is kind of crazy to me.

32:17 Speaker 2: But here we are, like, there's a there's a this

32:20 Speaker 2: was a whole new batch of women that have been like.

32:25 Speaker 3: Traumatized by this lady.

32:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, these are the ones Netflix couldn't get a hold

32:31 Speaker 2: of because they already sat down and talked and uh

32:34 Speaker 2: they said they had the same, if not worse things

32:37 Speaker 2: to say.

32:37 Speaker 1: I highly encourage you off. If you haven't seen it,

32:39 Speaker 1: go watch that.

32:41 Speaker 3: Why do I feel like there's going to be a

32:42 Speaker 3: part two?

32:43 Speaker 2: I was, well, well, there were two parts. There were

32:46 Speaker 2: two episodes too.

32:47 Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no. I mean for Netflix. Why

32:50 Speaker 3: do I think they're going to follow up? Oh, well

32:54 Speaker 3: that would be Why do I think that's going to happen?

32:56 Speaker 2: I think they should. I mean Netflix has a reputation

32:59 Speaker 2: of being not terrible in the true crime documentary space

33:02 Speaker 2: and breaking the like the talking the stuff. I mean,

33:06 Speaker 2: look at perfect neighbor like they do.

33:08 Speaker 3: I was just gonna say that, Yeah, they say that.

33:13 Speaker 3: I was destroyed for days.

33:15 Speaker 1: That kept everybody up in the eight That was hard

33:18 Speaker 1: with But you just did that.

33:21 Speaker 3: Even my man that's asleep in the living room right now,

33:24 Speaker 3: as an officer of the law, he was like, that's

33:27 Speaker 3: crazy shit.

33:29 Speaker 1: That was crazy shit. That was so crazy my I mean,

33:32 Speaker 1: the whole.

33:32 Speaker 2: Thing being on body cams is I mean, the storytelling

33:35 Speaker 2: in that one is fantastic. Like literally, Netflix has the

33:39 Speaker 2: opportunity they do really good documentary work. They really need

33:42 Speaker 2: they get a hold of it. I think they should

33:44 Speaker 2: follow up with all this new information about how bad

33:47 Speaker 2: and how culty this was, Like we need to talk

33:50 Speaker 2: about how this did draw women in. This drew drew

33:54 Speaker 2: people in. There were women on this episode. They were like,

33:57 Speaker 2: there wasn't a time in my life I didn't know

33:58 Speaker 2: what top model was when I went on it.

34:01 Speaker 3: Thank you, But they need to go deeper, and I

34:02 Speaker 3: want them to go after the networks themselves, because there's

34:05 Speaker 3: no way they didn't know.

34:07 Speaker 2: Boom absolutely yeah, well Netflix, I mean, networks back then

34:12 Speaker 2: were extremely culpable in a lot of things. I mean,

34:14 Speaker 2: look at the dark side of reality. To look at

34:16 Speaker 2: the dark side of TV. The Nickelodeon special ruined my

34:19 Speaker 2: childhood because those were literally my actual adolescent years, so

34:25 Speaker 2: I was the target audience. I felt weird things. Then

34:28 Speaker 2: I now know now what I know, and I was like,

34:31 Speaker 2: dang it, So just talk this under another thing, like

34:37 Speaker 2: I'm glad we have social media if it means opening

34:41 Speaker 2: the doors to expose more people to talk about more.

34:46 Speaker 1: Have a discussion.

34:48 Speaker 3: I never find a problem with having It's not a

34:51 Speaker 3: problem to have a discussion, but when it leads to

34:54 Speaker 3: people being traumatized further, that's where I said, maybe we

34:57 Speaker 3: should have it all panel or have a different medium

35:01 Speaker 3: to have that discussion.

35:03 Speaker 1: That is one hundred percent true.

35:05 Speaker 2: I Mean, what's even crazier is it's like, I agree,

35:09 Speaker 2: we should always be willing to have a discussion, especially

35:10 Speaker 2: when something you know impactful happens and you don't know

35:14 Speaker 2: where your place was in that thing, or you're working

35:18 Speaker 2: on where your place wasn't nothing, and how you feel

35:20 Speaker 2: about it. Someone who is definitely not equipped to have discussions.

35:26 Speaker 1: And it's funny that we even mentioned.

35:28 Speaker 2: Cults already, because if you if you wanted to talk

35:31 Speaker 2: about one, you couldn't do it with our girly Amanda

35:35 Speaker 2: over there on the Housewives of the Beverly Hills.

35:39 Speaker 3: Because you mean, the show nothing this year.

35:42 Speaker 2: The show about nothing this year except for how to

35:45 Speaker 2: find new ways or how to find new white women

35:49 Speaker 2: to piss me off, to piss all of us off,

35:52 Speaker 2: because Amanda is doing.

35:53 Speaker 1: All of y'all in y'all are all mad?

35:56 Speaker 3: Why I've never seen almost an entire culture turn against

36:03 Speaker 3: the first season like this.

36:07 Speaker 1: Like this, This is polarizing. She's polarizing for sure.

36:15 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not going to discount her presence, but

36:20 Speaker 3: it's her. It's the way she carries herself and the

36:24 Speaker 3: way she almost everything.

36:30 Speaker 2: But she wants you to think she's so humble while

36:32 Speaker 2: she's flaunting everything.

36:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's so.

36:35 Speaker 2: She's talking consistently in therapy speak and narcissists speak at

36:40 Speaker 2: the same time.

36:42 Speaker 3: It's very frustrating because you can't get it around.

36:45 Speaker 2: So frustrating because she's like I like to think of

36:48 Speaker 2: myself as a person who says what they need to

36:51 Speaker 2: say calmly and when I'm calm, But then also I

36:57 Speaker 2: know I can write a book. I've proven to write

36:59 Speaker 2: many of books. I have lots of businesses. I make

37:02 Speaker 2: a lot of money.

37:03 Speaker 3: Hey, I have an assistant great, like, what what are

37:11 Speaker 3: we doing?

37:12 Speaker 2: What are we doing? I watched this episode. I started

37:16 Speaker 2: it with, oh my god, we're in Italy. The fact

37:18 Speaker 2: that we are at a cash trip usually is a

37:21 Speaker 2: turning point for me. I can't have a bad time

37:25 Speaker 2: on a cast trip. The fights are always good, the outfits,

37:28 Speaker 2: the on Beyonce. I'm always into something. I will say,

37:33 Speaker 2: post this boring ass opera that you still don't need

37:37 Speaker 2: to you know, you still gotta you know, re act

37:39 Speaker 2: like you awake and do your best. But post opera,

37:42 Speaker 2: I did think that that table, that dining table, for

37:46 Speaker 2: their dorgeous stunning, it looks so cozy. I'm not gonna lie.

37:50 Speaker 2: I would sit out there for hours. I would be

37:53 Speaker 2: so disassociated, YA could fight. I'm at the other end

37:56 Speaker 2: looking at the ocean, and I am I'm locked in

38:00 Speaker 2: and with these apps, this wine and this cushy seat.

38:04 Speaker 2: I said, oh, it's a great seat to have a

38:06 Speaker 2: dinner and apparently get interviewed, roasted whatever. And so it's

38:11 Speaker 2: when we get to this dinner that I'm like, we're

38:15 Speaker 2: in Italy, we could we should be having a good time.

38:19 Speaker 1: We're about to have a fight.

38:20 Speaker 2: I know it because we're sitting down to dinner. What

38:23 Speaker 2: this girl come on this show for? Because the way

38:26 Speaker 2: I'm not having fun and it's her fault. Like I

38:29 Speaker 2: found myself pointing to the screen and saying, it's you.

38:33 Speaker 1: You don't want to be.

38:34 Speaker 2: Here, but you're making it everybody else's problem, like they

38:39 Speaker 2: don't want I don't understand what you like.

38:42 Speaker 1: Okay, let me say it this way.

38:44 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm trying to be or I'm I

38:46 Speaker 2: feel like I'm being manipulated or someone is trying to

38:49 Speaker 2: manipulate me. Every time I think she speaks or acts

38:52 Speaker 2: or is around people, I think she is manipulative. And

38:55 Speaker 2: it really upsets me because it's like, I don't know

38:57 Speaker 2: what you want me to feel, but I know you

38:59 Speaker 2: are trying to make sure someone feels something by not

39:04 Speaker 2: answering questions, by bringing up stuff that you have no

39:09 Speaker 2: business talking about, but not answering questions, by talking so

39:15 Speaker 2: calmly and slowly, so everyone matches you, but the moment

39:21 Speaker 2: that they match you on this level, and stay calm

39:25 Speaker 2: as long as it's when they say something you don't like. Hey,

39:29 Speaker 2: don't call me out wimp in my home. Now I'm

39:31 Speaker 2: a victim. Now my son, it's the anniversary of my

39:34 Speaker 2: son's deepth Well, I don't want you to interrogate me today.

39:37 Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't know that, but now I've told you so. Stop.

39:42 Speaker 1: She didn't stop. So you can.

39:44 Speaker 2: Your ability to find where you can take the moral

39:48 Speaker 2: high ground in every.

39:49 Speaker 1: Situation that you come into contact with another.

39:52 Speaker 2: Person on this cast is not only ridiculous, it's actually

39:56 Speaker 2: laughable because it's in some positions where you did. You

39:59 Speaker 2: started it. You're the one talking. You got mad at

40:02 Speaker 2: d read for talking about the cult. You brought up

40:04 Speaker 2: the cult.

40:05 Speaker 3: She brought up the cult. She wrote about the cult

40:07 Speaker 3: fourteen years ago.

40:08 Speaker 2: On her blogs, exactly why are you mad at dare?

40:11 Speaker 2: You put it on the internet and it feels like

40:14 Speaker 2: a deep dive? No shit, everybody show And let me

40:21 Speaker 2: tell you, the only people that know it the most

40:24 Speaker 2: is the House of the Beverly Hills.

40:26 Speaker 3: That bitches do nothing but deep dives on each other.

40:29 Speaker 2: We used to literally have Bravo blogs where they would

40:32 Speaker 2: deep dive and then write deep dives about their deep dives.

40:36 Speaker 1: On each other.

40:37 Speaker 2: Yes, girl, you wrote a blog about your experience. It

40:42 Speaker 2: seems like she's doing a deep dive. Yeah, because you

40:44 Speaker 2: won't answer a goddamn question.

40:47 Speaker 3: But the and the best person she lied, she goes you.

40:50 Speaker 3: You're saying that you googled Amanda Francis and Colt on

40:54 Speaker 3: Google and it came up. Yup. Boss said.

40:57 Speaker 1: It was like, Noah, doesn't I checked. Boss's like, yes, it.

40:59 Speaker 3: Does, Liar, because I checked the other day.

41:02 Speaker 1: It does. Of course it does. Why wouldn't it it's Google?

41:06 Speaker 2: You sound silly that both puts down because Amanda, here's

41:10 Speaker 2: the thing, this is why I feel like I'm being manipulated.

41:12 Speaker 2: What she's saying would then imply that she and her

41:15 Speaker 2: cult it's not a big enough story that one she

41:18 Speaker 2: would have even.

41:18 Speaker 1: Needed to write a blog post about it.

41:20 Speaker 2: Two, it's something with the internet would not know about

41:22 Speaker 2: because she's a non factor before right now. But then,

41:25 Speaker 2: how is that possible when you've written plenty of books,

41:28 Speaker 2: have lots of businesses, tons of money, and bought a

41:32 Speaker 2: housewives house so you can get on a show girl,

41:36 Speaker 2: So then how can it be both? How can it

41:39 Speaker 2: be you have no notoriety? So they no, it doesn't

41:41 Speaker 2: come up. My Cult's that you're looking deeply on me

41:45 Speaker 2: because you want to know because that stuff doesn't come up.

41:47 Speaker 2: Or I'm actually so notable people know about it all

41:50 Speaker 2: the time, because I feel like you've told us about

41:52 Speaker 2: the cult in like episode one, in your complessional episode two,

41:57 Speaker 2: so dark Finally looking at your up now actually does

42:01 Speaker 2: not shock me.

42:03 Speaker 1: It's not.

42:07 Speaker 3: Because waste her time.

42:10 Speaker 1: I know kids boom.

42:14 Speaker 3: Two kids at a deadbeat ex husband seemed to be and.

42:18 Speaker 2: That you let us know that you have these feelings

42:20 Speaker 2: about Why doesn't she understand that either, I'm like, you're

42:25 Speaker 2: choosing your She's committed to misunderstanding. And that's why again

42:29 Speaker 2: I ask you're committed to misunderstanding. Why to read is

42:32 Speaker 2: mad at you because you want to have a beef

42:33 Speaker 2: with this person on the show, But you seem exasperated

42:36 Speaker 2: by the beef that you started with the person on

42:39 Speaker 2: this show by having an opinion about somebody that you

42:42 Speaker 2: met two minutes ago.

42:45 Speaker 3: Well not only that, but she very subtly and sneakily

42:50 Speaker 3: made it Kyle. That was the one that said it.

42:53 Speaker 3: When Kyle, when Kyle said, I concerned she's talking too

42:59 Speaker 3: much and I mean, this is yeah, I wouldn't do that,

43:02 Speaker 3: and then she co opted that and weaponized that and

43:06 Speaker 3: caused a bigger rift between Kyle and Duri than there

43:08 Speaker 3: was to start with, and it pissed me off.

43:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially because she's like, I just feel like if

43:14 Speaker 2: you had the why, the context, the reason, the tenor

43:19 Speaker 2: the tone, the conversation, the time of day, and all

43:22 Speaker 2: of that, you would see that we weren't talking about

43:25 Speaker 2: you like that. And I'm like, one, that's too much.

43:30 Speaker 2: That basically means you're saying, if I could talk my

43:34 Speaker 2: way out of it, if she would just let me

43:36 Speaker 2: talk to her again, she's a manipulator.

43:39 Speaker 1: I don't like that. I'm very sensitive to manipulative people. Hello,

43:42 Speaker 1: I just mentioned how I grew up household narcissist parent.

43:46 Speaker 1: I don't like when people are trying to make me

43:48 Speaker 1: feel something by telling me one thing but then telling

43:51 Speaker 1: me something else at the same time. You did know

43:55 Speaker 1: what you were doing. You knew what you were talking about.

43:58 Speaker 2: Also, it is not the case or it's not the

44:01 Speaker 2: point that you were talking about it and co opt

44:04 Speaker 2: to Kyle's thinging that you have an opinion and that

44:05 Speaker 2: you used to be a therapist.

44:08 Speaker 1: And so you worked with kids and when you worked with.

44:12 Speaker 2: Kids, like I mean, of course I would have told you.

44:14 Speaker 2: I agree with Kyle, I agree with you. You still the

44:17 Speaker 2: read's point is it's none of your business because you

44:21 Speaker 2: don't know me.

44:22 Speaker 1: Kyle can have an opinion because she does.

44:24 Speaker 3: You don't eight years in almost ten years in she

44:27 Speaker 3: knows her.

44:28 Speaker 1: Shut up. That's all you had to do, was not

44:32 Speaker 1: a colin be like, yeah, that does seem tough. So

44:35 Speaker 1: how are you guys navigating that as friends? Like that's

44:38 Speaker 1: all you had to do?

44:39 Speaker 3: Well, I think you know that clip I posted today

44:42 Speaker 3: and for the after show that Kyle Erica and say

44:47 Speaker 3: nail that they called it.

44:49 Speaker 2: They nailed that shit because it's finally come up. Basically,

44:52 Speaker 2: what the hell is the reason for this girl coming

44:53 Speaker 2: on this show? It isn't to talk about the cold

44:56 Speaker 2: though she suspect that story out of us eighty percent

44:58 Speaker 2: of its as merit. The rest is questionable. Specifically, the

45:06 Speaker 2: I left in the middle of the night is what

45:08 Speaker 2: got me. Because also if you if you hurt me,

45:11 Speaker 2: mention high exit costs, but yet you can call the

45:17 Speaker 2: licensed or Jennifer Tilly said that was kind of easy

45:20 Speaker 2: then actually, wait, yeah, if all you can do is

45:25 Speaker 2: call the licensure, that's it. I said, all it must

45:28 Speaker 2: because she's like she was a young white woman, because

45:30 Speaker 2: I definitely tried to get my I definitely let me

45:34 Speaker 2: tell you about that high exit cost, because y'all know,

45:37 Speaker 2: if I defend Mary on it, I'm also gonna say, again,

45:40 Speaker 2: let's just look at the difference. But again, I if

45:44 Speaker 2: you look at the cult criteria, I'm not taking away

45:48 Speaker 2: that what Amanda went through qualifies as it because I

45:51 Speaker 2: know that what I went through qualifies as it.

45:53 Speaker 1: I will not take that from her.

45:55 Speaker 3: I figured out what organization it is just based on

45:59 Speaker 3: what she said this week when she said the licenser.

46:05 Speaker 3: Who else do we know that had to pay to

46:08 Speaker 3: get out of their situation with their religious order? Heathery're gay?

46:12 Speaker 3: This was the Warmons baby.

46:14 Speaker 2: Well, that does make a lot of sense for her too,

46:17 Speaker 2: or again, the youth pastor of it all.

46:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me tell you something.

46:21 Speaker 2: I was in the youth group, but I was in

46:23 Speaker 2: the colts, and it does feel mine also checks out

46:26 Speaker 2: all of those things.

46:27 Speaker 1: Even though it was a mega.

46:28 Speaker 2: Church, it was much much bigger. There were a lot

46:31 Speaker 2: of us. There are still a lot of them not

46:34 Speaker 2: paying them. Exit calls over twenty five thousand people at

46:37 Speaker 2: that local one. They have won some all over the world. Okay,

46:40 Speaker 2: the same church, the exact same church. The exit calls is.

46:43 Speaker 2: I was born into that school, in that church. I

46:45 Speaker 2: only went to that the daycare of people that were

46:48 Speaker 2: from that church my entire life, the school, the elementary school,

46:52 Speaker 2: middle everything, my entire life. Church seven days a week.

46:55 Speaker 2: I'm in the same building leaving it. Not until ninth

47:01 Speaker 2: grade is when I'm starting to really be like I

47:03 Speaker 2: am mental wise, where the execut is so high.

47:09 Speaker 1: I thought in my head.

47:10 Speaker 2: I even told a therapist, we will never leave our church,

47:12 Speaker 2: so I have to just figure out how to make

47:15 Speaker 2: it through all of these anxieties, stressors, blah blah blah,

47:17 Speaker 2: because she was like, why don't your parents just leave?

47:19 Speaker 1: I had a therapist quit on me because she was

47:21 Speaker 1: just like, I can't understand it. Quote on me.

47:25 Speaker 2: Okay, as a teenager, she was like, wow, wow, after

47:29 Speaker 2: a year, really really hurt me us. Imagine not I've

47:34 Speaker 2: never I had never met a person outside of that

47:37 Speaker 2: place in my whole life until I was a teenager.

47:41 Speaker 1: But yet I.

47:43 Speaker 2: Lost every single relationship I ever had one of my

47:49 Speaker 2: parents chose the church over me though I was going

47:54 Speaker 2: through like oh my own persecution. No, not physical or

47:58 Speaker 2: sexual abuse. Well, actually abuse would constitute because the teachers

48:02 Speaker 2: were allowed to spank us. So yeah, if your parents

48:06 Speaker 2: couldn't take off work to come down and spank you

48:10 Speaker 2: when it was deemed that you were being a problem child,

48:13 Speaker 2: like you were exhibiting behaviors that were not good, basically

48:20 Speaker 2: just being a kid. But you can't be a kid

48:23 Speaker 2: if you are trying to fight rambunctious spirits from you know,

48:27 Speaker 2: the devil and whatnot and that busybody spirit.

48:30 Speaker 1: This is pre understanding of ADHD and all that. So

48:34 Speaker 1: just us talking.

48:35 Speaker 2: I was the girl who's talking so much, talk so much,

48:37 Speaker 2: got detention by the certain by the first grade paddles.

48:41 Speaker 1: If the parents can take off work, they would call

48:43 Speaker 1: and be like, hey, do we have permission?

48:44 Speaker 2: And the parents would be like yeah, go ahead over

48:47 Speaker 2: the phone at their day jobs, at their day job, yeah,

48:51 Speaker 2: go ahead, I can't leave, So go ahead.

48:53 Speaker 3: And do it.

48:54 Speaker 2: But you tell her them when she gets home, she's

48:55 Speaker 2: gonna get an additional one because out there she embarrassed

48:58 Speaker 2: me like that, and embarrassed the Lord. High exit cost

49:02 Speaker 2: lost on my friends. Don't talk to none of them

49:04 Speaker 2: people I've only known those people, had to make all

49:06 Speaker 2: new friends when I became like an old teenager.

49:08 Speaker 1: It was very hard.

49:09 Speaker 2: A lot of it is a therapy fifteen years, like

49:12 Speaker 2: people still are instructed to not speak to me, like.

49:16 Speaker 1: This has gone on since twenty like twelve. It's so

49:23 Speaker 1: there are high exit costs. I know.

49:26 Speaker 2: All I wrote down was though there maybe I should

49:28 Speaker 2: write a book if this is all it took, if

49:30 Speaker 2: A managed.

49:31 Speaker 1: To write one.

49:32 Speaker 3: The fact that they clocked that, the fact that Kyle

49:35 Speaker 3: Sutton and Erica clocked it all at the same time.

49:39 Speaker 3: It was so interesting to see it because I don't

49:43 Speaker 3: think they actually compare notes before that.

49:46 Speaker 2: Nope, Like they're the ones who are like, so what

49:49 Speaker 2: you know they've had the same conversation. What did she

49:51 Speaker 2: come on the show for? And if it's not to process,

49:55 Speaker 2: it's to what get rich? Why do people weren't for president?

50:00 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's been a week.

50:03 Speaker 1: I'm sorry it slipped Mark, it slipped real.

50:09 Speaker 2: I thought it was to do the better for the

50:10 Speaker 2: people than voted. I mean, I thought it was to

50:13 Speaker 2: make friends with the girls.

50:18 Speaker 3: Thelma I did not agree to go off the cliff

50:20 Speaker 3: to you today. You're Mary, You're right.

50:22 Speaker 2: I had hold on, hold on, I got a hook.

50:25 Speaker 2: I'm gonna hitch it back on to that cliar. We're

50:27 Speaker 2: gonna pull ourselves back up. You mean to tell me

50:30 Speaker 2: that this girl, Amanda Francis did not want to come

50:32 Speaker 2: on here to be BFF with the.

50:34 Speaker 3: Likes of Kyle and Sutton now she could.

50:37 Speaker 2: Can you think she just wanted to sell her internet

50:40 Speaker 2: shit that you can't even get a charge back for

50:43 Speaker 2: in less than twelve hours.

50:46 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I'm sure you haven't even heard the

50:48 Speaker 3: latest scam today. Give it, she said on Virtual reality

50:54 Speaker 3: Tea with Evan Real and the other guy. They were

50:58 Speaker 3: talking with her and she said point blank. She goes,

51:02 Speaker 3: we have book club now where they get to see

51:04 Speaker 3: the chapters before they got a publication in May, and

51:08 Speaker 3: book club is having a great time with the book.

51:11 Speaker 3: They love the cult book. They say it's great. And

51:14 Speaker 3: then the guy asks, well, how do you get into

51:16 Speaker 3: the book club? She goes, Oh, you've got to go

51:18 Speaker 3: to the sales page and you can join the book

51:21 Speaker 3: club through the sales page.

51:23 Speaker 1: I just love a brif and and.

51:27 Speaker 3: There it is she sets that up the show. She

51:31 Speaker 3: set it up on the show. I'm going to write

51:33 Speaker 3: it about the cult, so people are going to think

51:35 Speaker 3: about the cult. And now she's mentioned she's got a

51:37 Speaker 3: book club where you can preview the book about the

51:39 Speaker 3: cult and you've got to pay to see it.

51:43 Speaker 2: And then yeah, and then you got to pay for

51:46 Speaker 2: the book because you know she's going to be like

51:47 Speaker 2: pre order pre order. She reminds me there's this like

51:50 Speaker 2: wellness guru of Scam Gurley that people always she'd been

51:58 Speaker 2: like promising y'all like a book or like a wellness

52:01 Speaker 2: tour or something for like a.

52:03 Speaker 3: Year's and.

52:07 Speaker 1: It's just giving. Amanda was not deterred but inspired when

52:13 Speaker 1: she heard that.

52:14 Speaker 3: She she stole her bit and.

52:18 Speaker 2: She listens to the scam influence, like Scamfluencer Jacu a

52:21 Speaker 2: podcast and she's like, no, wait a minute, how did

52:25 Speaker 2: they they made how much? It's not fair and she's like,

52:30 Speaker 2: we need to do it better.

52:32 Speaker 1: Like she came on this.

52:34 Speaker 2: Show to sell y'all her Manifestation in Cult documentary, a

52:39 Speaker 2: Cult Books, the Cult book that she even though she

52:42 Speaker 2: didn't want to talk about the cult all season long.

52:44 Speaker 3: You want to talk about the cult. No, they want

52:46 Speaker 3: to talk about your official routine that cannot scientifically be true.

52:51 Speaker 2: No, not at all. But you brought up the cult,

52:53 Speaker 2: so yeah, let's talk about it. She's like, I just

52:56 Speaker 2: don't know if I have the emotional bandwido, it's all

52:59 Speaker 2: of that. Well, baby, you better get the emotional band

53:02 Speaker 2: stamina if you're going to write a book about it.

53:06 Speaker 3: She was so deadpan and so flat and stale and

53:11 Speaker 3: so hers, which is.

53:13 Speaker 2: So crazy because yeah, because like there's it's interesting because

53:19 Speaker 2: I'm not doubting that's what she was in. I'm just

53:20 Speaker 2: doubting that it had the impact on her that she

53:23 Speaker 2: says it did, and that she's not co opting the

53:26 Speaker 2: idea of what it is to be out of a

53:29 Speaker 2: cult during this time where a lot of people are

53:31 Speaker 2: talking about cults and being a victim, recognizing she may

53:36 Speaker 2: have been in one, but she was also one of

53:38 Speaker 2: the lucky ones.

53:39 Speaker 1: But that's not a narrative that sells chapters.

53:42 Speaker 3: So I'm going to tell you right now she co

53:45 Speaker 3: opted their business playing quite nicely. Dad, I'm just saying.

53:51 Speaker 2: So listen, I don't know what that girl came on

53:54 Speaker 2: this show to do. But Kathy gave it to her.

53:56 Speaker 2: She said, next time walking the room, looking around, sit

54:01 Speaker 2: down and shut up.

54:02 Speaker 3: And wait, wait and know your place, your place.

54:06 Speaker 2: When she said look around the room and know your place,

54:11 Speaker 2: Erica cathol.

54:12 Speaker 1: And I said, my damnit, ej so did.

54:14 Speaker 3: I her confessionals, She goes, Kathy Hilton is one of

54:19 Speaker 3: the most put together women high class society. And there

54:23 Speaker 3: she tells you.

54:26 Speaker 2: Place short of Emily Post. She invented the fucking hotel industry. Okay,

54:33 Speaker 2: pray she had, and she's telling you know your place.

54:37 Speaker 1: I screamed for her. I said, girl, you must feel embarrassed.

54:40 Speaker 1: And she looked like she did. Richie said, did you

54:44 Speaker 1: see her having a great time?

54:47 Speaker 3: Did you see her eyes go to the man? His

54:50 Speaker 3: eyes go to the left wind that guy said her.

54:52 Speaker 3: She was pissed.

54:53 Speaker 1: Oh sopen, So what are you gonna do? Try to

54:56 Speaker 1: fight you. She can't let go of this facade. This

55:02 Speaker 1: is the facade that she is.

55:04 Speaker 2: She can't let it be so even she has to

55:08 Speaker 2: everything like she is still. But it took it.

55:11 Speaker 1: You saw it, take it. I saw the eyes too.

55:14 Speaker 3: But you know, every last fiber of her inner court

55:17 Speaker 3: wanted to grab the nearest kitchen knife run down that table.

55:21 Speaker 2: Yes, and get that pony to ride. Excuse me, why

55:26 Speaker 2: don't you breathe the broom?

55:29 Speaker 1: No your place?

55:30 Speaker 3: Okay, I can't not can I just be honest. That

55:34 Speaker 3: is the only thing that's happened this season was this

55:36 Speaker 3: table scene. This is the only.

55:39 Speaker 1: Thing that said that's it, this one.

55:43 Speaker 3: Part reunion because they're filming it.

55:45 Speaker 2: Was listen also, well, okay, you told me something, and

55:49 Speaker 2: run Bailey posted that it could be the first Beverly

55:55 Speaker 2: Hills one part reunion we have had almost ever did Yeah,

56:01 Speaker 2: he put on threads. He was like, today's the reunion

56:03 Speaker 2: day because today we're recording this on Friday, is the

56:07 Speaker 2: reunion day that their hosted or that they did the reunion.

56:11 Speaker 2: You told me Amanda is at the end. If Amanda

56:14 Speaker 2: is the class least favorite, and it's at the end

56:18 Speaker 2: of the couch, end of the couch, it's given. We

56:22 Speaker 2: might only need a forty five minute with some commercial breaks.

56:26 Speaker 2: Do you think you'll have more than one part? I

56:29 Speaker 2: can't imagine they might obligated because like ads, but I

56:34 Speaker 2: can't imagine what it would be about.

56:36 Speaker 3: There is nothing that deems this season three reunion parts.

56:42 Speaker 3: If there's no reunion part unless Derry, Kyle and Erica

56:47 Speaker 3: start swinging and throwing each other around. I'm not interested.

56:52 Speaker 2: No, and Kyle and nobody else is going to be

56:54 Speaker 2: taking that much more accountability this season when they don't

56:57 Speaker 2: have to.

56:57 Speaker 1: Amanda's right over there. If she won't think you don't truth.

57:00 Speaker 3: At all, Please tell me you saw that she does.

57:04 Speaker 3: Bag the sudden was eating Kyle sat down on it,

57:08 Speaker 3: and when Kyle was leaving and off in a huff,

57:12 Speaker 3: that bag was attached to her ass.

57:13 Speaker 2: And nobody told her that is amazing, incredible. Give that

57:21 Speaker 2: a whole, Give that a package, Give that Jaseel's package.

57:26 Speaker 1: I want to say.

57:28 Speaker 3: Everybody was like saying the same thing. Gizelle didn't need

57:30 Speaker 3: a package. Jaselle carried that whole season.

57:33 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, she didn't need a package. This season.

57:34 Speaker 2: We had a lot to do without her, like getting involved,

57:38 Speaker 2: like getting in the mess.

57:39 Speaker 3: And it was more than five I needed more than

57:43 Speaker 3: five minutes on that Colorado trip. We needed a whole

57:46 Speaker 3: episode on that Colorado I.

57:48 Speaker 2: Needed to know why that lady was let off the

57:51 Speaker 2: We had a lot. There was a lot there that

57:52 Speaker 2: we could have, you know, and.

57:54 Speaker 3: You sacrificed ATel for caring, come on.

57:57 Speaker 1: Man, Okay.

57:58 Speaker 2: In fact, I feel like we should go ahead and

58:02 Speaker 2: give the rest of the thirty minutes of the Beverly

58:05 Speaker 2: Hills realion on over to frequently asked questions about Potomac

58:11 Speaker 2: and other house that we haven't had yet.

58:13 Speaker 1: That'd be great.

58:15 Speaker 3: You need Amanda Francis and Stacy Roush to do a

58:18 Speaker 3: road trip together, I do.

58:21 Speaker 2: I feel like even Stace would be letting no, you're delusional,

58:26 Speaker 2: which would be great.

58:28 Speaker 1: I'm about to say you think Stacey did a deep dive.

58:30 Speaker 1: I mean you think.

58:32 Speaker 2: Jeri did a deep dive on you, Amanda, because she

58:34 Speaker 2: googled you and looked at Belave that you wrote.

58:40 Speaker 1: Arty. But you do know Ashley Darby that all Ady

58:44 Speaker 1: Wue do a deep dive.

58:47 Speaker 2: Investigator Darby gets on the train just to talk to

58:51 Speaker 2: people who have overboured and served Karen.

58:55 Speaker 1: Ashley doesn't need to be on the metro.

58:58 Speaker 2: If I don't need to be on the Metro, I

59:00 Speaker 2: know Ashley Darby don't need to be on the Metro.

59:02 Speaker 1: She live in Arlington. That's not easy.

59:04 Speaker 2: Where's she going talking to Karen Garen's old bartender. No,

59:09 Speaker 2: Ashley is doing the boots on the groundwork the streets

59:13 Speaker 2: so people can come to her with the tea.

59:15 Speaker 3: I'm sorry she wasn't at the courthouse with Terria, to

59:18 Speaker 3: be honest.

59:19 Speaker 2: Oh no, See that was too far for her. Not

59:23 Speaker 2: on the metro that day. She couldn't transfer like two

59:26 Speaker 2: different lines.

59:27 Speaker 1: That would be a lot. Probably couldn't get babysitting the kids.

59:33 Speaker 1: You know she is a mom.

59:35 Speaker 2: But listen, Aman, I don't know that Ashley gonna get you.

59:37 Speaker 2: She'll find out everything about that call. She would have

59:40 Speaker 2: talked to the youth pastor, the leader. Okay, she would

59:44 Speaker 2: have talked to him.

59:46 Speaker 1: She don't let Kenyan know. She would have brought him there. Hello, Blake,

1:00:00 Speaker 1: you were never cut out for a house while I

1:00:01 Speaker 1: was a baby.

1:00:02 Speaker 2: Why don't you go somewhere Else's Amanda Francis, Yes, facers, yes, Ronnor,

1:00:08 Speaker 2: I recognize her. Witness Exhibit A. It's her, it's the

1:00:12 Speaker 2: it's number three. Oh my goodness. I don't know what

1:00:15 Speaker 2: they're gonna talk about.

1:00:17 Speaker 3: I still want to know why they sequestered her away

1:00:19 Speaker 3: from the rest of the group for the after show.

1:00:21 Speaker 3: They had to refilm them all.

1:00:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would like to know.

1:00:25 Speaker 2: I feel like she probably did quit and came back,

1:00:27 Speaker 2: or they were I don't know, maybe she wanted to

1:00:30 Speaker 2: quit and they were like we'll fire you or and

1:00:32 Speaker 2: we'll find you or whatever. She's not about writing up

1:00:34 Speaker 2: a chat, so maybe she was like, Okay, I'll come back.

1:00:37 Speaker 2: I don't know.

1:00:37 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I'm speculating.

1:00:40 Speaker 3: I have no idea. I don't ask anybody. I just

1:00:43 Speaker 3: let the at it take me where it's going to

1:00:44 Speaker 3: take me. But when you glaringly pull a three month

1:00:48 Speaker 3: jump and you have to announce it's a three month

1:00:51 Speaker 3: jump into the future, and all the groups are different

1:00:54 Speaker 3: in the after show and Amanda's all by herself, something

1:00:58 Speaker 3: must happen in the next three makes that happen.

1:01:03 Speaker 2: Especially if you see that what you because what you

1:01:05 Speaker 2: said with this one in real time sudden Erica and Kyle,

1:01:10 Speaker 2: this is now in the refilmed ones are looking like why.

1:01:14 Speaker 1: They've asked since finishing the show, why has she come

1:01:18 Speaker 1: on this show?

1:01:20 Speaker 2: And then they're like, now that we're here, why do

1:01:23 Speaker 2: you think Because if we're being asked to do all

1:01:25 Speaker 2: this again and we know that you know she gone,

1:01:26 Speaker 2: she come back, and why do you think she did this?

1:01:29 Speaker 2: Then like, why go through all of this, and they

1:01:31 Speaker 2: were like, do you think And what got me was

1:01:33 Speaker 2: that Kyle was like, do you think we got in

1:01:35 Speaker 2: the way of her audience? But it's an ensemble cast,

1:01:40 Speaker 2: of course they did. We don't know you. Why would

1:01:43 Speaker 2: we give a shit about you selling anything, or promoting anything,

1:01:47 Speaker 2: or talking about anything which you didn't fact, how else

1:01:53 Speaker 2: are we going to learn about you if we don't

1:01:58 Speaker 2: know you?

1:01:58 Speaker 3: You gotta If she had come in a different way, yes,

1:02:04 Speaker 3: and and had still had this agenda, but had just

1:02:09 Speaker 3: carried herself a different way, more personable, more open, more feeling,

1:02:14 Speaker 3: I think everybody would have loved her.

1:02:17 Speaker 1: I do.

1:02:17 Speaker 2: I think if she just acted like she wanted to

1:02:19 Speaker 2: be a friend. The thing about see, sometimes I'd been

1:02:21 Speaker 2: like Narcissaius, you gotta do your work, You gotta work

1:02:24 Speaker 2: a little harder to mask the fact that you.

1:02:26 Speaker 1: Only care about yourself. And then you're stands here.

1:02:29 Speaker 3: She's even like her husband.

1:02:31 Speaker 1: No, she just like nobody. She's the most miserable woo

1:02:35 Speaker 1: woo bitch I've ever seen.

1:02:38 Speaker 3: And the way she hates bos. Oh she hates Boz.

1:02:42 Speaker 1: What's that given?

1:02:45 Speaker 3: Given a little race?

1:02:47 Speaker 2: Oh she's so mad. Bos is more rich than her.

1:02:49 Speaker 2: But that's what happens when you were a scammer.

1:02:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, this is only going to carry her

1:02:54 Speaker 3: for so long. I'm waiting for the indictment.

1:02:57 Speaker 1: Thank you.

1:02:57 Speaker 2: I was actually just telling what my wife was like.

1:03:01 Speaker 2: Let me tell you this one right here. She given

1:03:04 Speaker 2: scam energy vibes to me.

1:03:06 Speaker 1: I believe it.

1:03:06 Speaker 2: A lot of people believe it who were on in

1:03:08 Speaker 2: on ads, you know, Mark, believe it. You know they're

1:03:11 Speaker 2: they're they're scammy things. In which I say, I never

1:03:14 Speaker 2: know why they go on a reality show because then

1:03:16 Speaker 2: it's like the clink clink comes so soon after.

1:03:20 Speaker 1: It's only like you are.

1:03:21 Speaker 2: Doing when you go on one, and we can tell

1:03:24 Speaker 2: that you got scammy energy.

1:03:26 Speaker 1: I know it's likely true.

1:03:28 Speaker 3: And I all is as Peter Thomas or Jinshaw. Oh.

1:03:38 Speaker 2: On that note, she got a new wig this week.

1:03:40 Speaker 2: On that note, Mark, thank you so much.

1:03:45 Speaker 3: No, thank you.

1:03:46 Speaker 2: Have a blast as always, you made even talking about

1:03:49 Speaker 2: Beverly Hills fun.

1:03:52 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, look, that's my favorite show and

1:03:56 Speaker 3: it's fallen so far.

1:03:59 Speaker 2: No, I get it, and I've loved Beverly Hills since

1:04:01 Speaker 2: day one, episode one.

1:04:03 Speaker 1: I love it. I will always come a spot for it.

1:04:05 Speaker 2: That's why I still am talking about it right now

1:04:07 Speaker 2: though I'm not having a good time. But that's why,

1:04:09 Speaker 2: y'all we got you. We watching it, even if you not.

1:04:12 Speaker 2: We will get through it. We shall overcome, hopefully with

1:04:16 Speaker 2: only one part. Or do it like Meritive Medicine, how

1:04:20 Speaker 2: to do the Black Girls and give.

1:04:21 Speaker 1: It a one hour and a half reunion and we

1:04:23 Speaker 1: could all call it a day.

1:04:25 Speaker 3: Amen zoom.

1:04:27 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you guys, thank you so much for listening.

1:04:30 Speaker 2: That's been Mark, I've been money. You can find him

1:04:33 Speaker 2: on all the things at the Pink Pop Box and

1:04:36 Speaker 2: me on all the things at Mixing with Moni And

1:04:38 Speaker 2: we'll see you next week.

1:04:39 Speaker 1: Love you bye,