224. The Weekly Mix Up (ANTM Doc & RHOP) w/Mark (@thepinkpopbox)

0:02 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologist out there. It

0:07 Speaker 1: is your girl Moni and you are in the mix

0:10 Speaker 1: with mony An Mark. I'm going to come up with

0:14 Speaker 1: a new cute segment or name for to incorporate both

0:18 Speaker 1: of our like really exciting call to action titles of

0:24 Speaker 1: our accounts. Pink Pop Box really does like give you

0:27 Speaker 1: an idea of what's happening, and so does the Mix

0:30 Speaker 1: with Money and Now because we are going to be

0:33 Speaker 1: trying something new, a weekly roundup of sorts together and

0:38 Speaker 1: breaking down the things that we're all talking about and watching,

0:42 Speaker 1: especially our housewives, girlies and beyond as we are here today.

0:46 Speaker 1: But like with all that's going on, there's no one

0:49 Speaker 1: better to do it but me and Mark and so

0:53 Speaker 1: welcome to the Pink Pop Box Mix, the Mix with

0:56 Speaker 1: the Peak Pop Box, the Pink Mix with the Box,

1:03 Speaker 1: the Pink.

1:04 Speaker 2: Mix with the Box of Pop and what's gonna high? Mark?

1:11 Speaker 2: How you doing? Oh, I'm good. I'm gonna I'm throw

1:17 Speaker 2: it with something.

1:18 Speaker 1: I would put it in a chat GPT you, but

1:20 Speaker 1: they say I'm not supposed to do that, So I'm

1:22 Speaker 1: gonna like let.

1:23 Speaker 2: My brain do the work, Like what am I? Oh?

1:26 Speaker 1: Let me ask y'all what y'all think? Tell me and

1:28 Speaker 1: Mark what you think of? Segment could be called because

1:31 Speaker 1: right now the working title is.

1:35 Speaker 2: The Peak.

1:36 Speaker 1: I forgot what I said that fast. The peak mits

1:38 Speaker 1: in the box. It's not getting better, so I need help.

1:43 Speaker 2: I'll help you. You're making it sound like a Dolly

1:46 Speaker 2: Perk cake mix.

1:48 Speaker 1: It also would love sounds like all into that happy

1:58 Speaker 1: week day friends. This is gonna put on a Thursday,

2:03 Speaker 1: so happy Thursday soon to be weakened.

2:05 Speaker 2: But I have not gotten through this week without.

2:09 Speaker 1: Literally two things very permanently on my mind, like legitimately

2:14 Speaker 1: equal holding equal space in both all the parts of

2:19 Speaker 1: the lobes of my brain.

2:20 Speaker 2: Right those things.

2:22 Speaker 1: Literally are whatever the fuck Wendy and Eddie sat down

2:27 Speaker 1: and talked about on that Potonac Reunion, and however the

2:31 Speaker 1: hell many voices I heard came out of that lady's mouth,

2:35 Speaker 1: and Stacey Facetoon and her dogs so aka the Potomac Reunion,

2:40 Speaker 1: and Tyra taking zero accountability but obviously being told she's

2:44 Speaker 1: on a different freaking docu show.

2:47 Speaker 2: Then everybody else been told that lady.

2:50 Speaker 1: Sit down, let's talk about your history of making America's

2:54 Speaker 1: next top Model the biggest show ever, and everybody else

2:57 Speaker 1: is like.

2:58 Speaker 3: Oh, we were here to roaster and you're like, no, no, no,

3:00 Speaker 3: that's what we're here for too. No spill it. Tell

3:03 Speaker 3: us everything, Okay, start from the beginning.

3:06 Speaker 2: How bad watching?

3:07 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have not gotten enough of both

3:12 Speaker 1: things this week?

3:13 Speaker 3: So Mark, how about you? What's on your mind this week?

3:18 Speaker 2: To be honest, Once Monday Night hit and I sat there,

3:22 Speaker 2: and I sat there for three damn hours and just

3:26 Speaker 2: absorbed everything hard not to. I just was like, God, damn,

3:34 Speaker 2: it was worse than I knew.

3:36 Speaker 1: Right because I am one of those people who I

3:40 Speaker 1: also loved America's Next Top Model both while it was on.

3:44 Speaker 1: I mean, it was also goddamn long that you could

3:47 Speaker 1: be as young as I was when it started and

3:49 Speaker 1: not be able to watch it, and when I could

3:52 Speaker 1: or would sneak to or was into the glamorous lifestyle

3:55 Speaker 1: at whatever age, it was still on, so I still

3:57 Speaker 1: could dive right in and be talking with all the

4:00 Speaker 1: people and I did. It formulated so much of my life.

4:04 Speaker 1: It's the reason I even started watching the Tyra Show.

4:08 Speaker 1: You think I'm watching the Tyra Show just because I

4:10 Speaker 1: like Tyra Banks. No, she was technically before my time.

4:13 Speaker 1: But also I didn't give a fuck that much about

4:15 Speaker 1: skinny models, Victoria's Secret models.

4:17 Speaker 2: I was a young girl. That was not me.

4:19 Speaker 1: I'm fighting and eating disorder and all these things. I'm like,

4:22 Speaker 1: that's not my life. But America's Next Time Model, Oh,

4:26 Speaker 1: that was pure te that was TV, that was drama.

4:29 Speaker 1: That was high fashion.

4:31 Speaker 2: I thought I thought those girls were working or going too.

4:36 Speaker 1: You couldn't tell me shit that a tarantula wasn't going

4:40 Speaker 1: to book a whole Dimonda. Were there moments when I

4:43 Speaker 1: was watching as a youth, going I can't this must

4:47 Speaker 1: be fashion beyond what I understand because I don't get it.

4:51 Speaker 1: Maybe it's it's not you know, it's high fashion. You

4:55 Speaker 1: know I got so because I don't get the elephant

4:58 Speaker 1: she did confused me. There were moments I was confused

5:03 Speaker 1: as I was growing up watching and thinking, well, wow,

5:05 Speaker 1: we're really pushing the boundaries on this.

5:07 Speaker 2: But it kept me watching, and that's my bag. It's

5:12 Speaker 2: my bad. What is your relationship with America's Next Time Model?

5:18 Speaker 1: Like?

5:18 Speaker 2: Did you where did you fall with it? Oh? Honey,

5:21 Speaker 2: I was a day one watcher, Okay, I loved well,

5:25 Speaker 2: I'm a little older than you. I'm forty five. So

5:28 Speaker 2: I was in that time of Janis Dickinson Coyote Ugly,

5:33 Speaker 2: and that's what cooled me in was Coyote Ugly. I

5:37 Speaker 2: mean I was saying, oh, that's the girl that played

5:39 Speaker 2: the lawyer and kyote Y. Yeah. Yeah, So I was like, well,

5:42 Speaker 2: let's let's just do this. And then you know, Nigel

5:46 Speaker 2: Barker was kind of hot, and I was like, Okay,

5:48 Speaker 2: my gass is my gas. It's gonna stick around and

5:50 Speaker 2: just look at Nigel all episode.

5:51 Speaker 1: But that's okay, Yeah, absolutely, that was apparently that's what

5:55 Speaker 1: he was looked for.

5:57 Speaker 2: And that guy Candy they said he said, but then

6:01 Speaker 2: we had you know, my favorite person on the show

6:05 Speaker 2: was Miss Jack ab so loot Tilly and due every comic,

6:14 Speaker 2: every facial expression, I may or may not have been

6:18 Speaker 2: co opted as a young gay name coming up in

6:21 Speaker 2: this world, I may have. You know, I'm not gonna

6:25 Speaker 2: say Miss Jay raised me, but she certainly schooled me

6:27 Speaker 2: on how to be caddy.

6:29 Speaker 1: I mean, she's spooled up, but apparently a lot of

6:31 Speaker 1: people that's literally her job and has not hung.

6:34 Speaker 3: Up the cape lust take it is truly something to behold.

6:38 Speaker 1: But like also call it the pop culture like obsession

6:43 Speaker 1: that we have, right, call it the neurodiversence that I have.

6:47 Speaker 1: I have never let go of where these women were.

6:50 Speaker 1: I've always wondered randomly and gone down periodic deep dive

6:55 Speaker 1: rabbit holes of where they are. Free social media, I

7:00 Speaker 1: used to look for articles, like look for blogs whatever,

7:03 Speaker 1: to be like, where the hell are these people?

7:06 Speaker 2: Mostly you could.

7:06 Speaker 1: Only find at the time Lisa di a motto, I

7:11 Speaker 1: really hate to.

7:12 Speaker 2: Mess up her name. She's paying a good fight right now.

7:15 Speaker 1: But you really could only find like maybe one to

7:17 Speaker 1: three girlies who were willing to talk.

7:20 Speaker 2: And we're still and we're saying things. So they were like,

7:22 Speaker 2: I already been blacklisted or whatever the hell I'm not

7:25 Speaker 2: working anyway, what difference does it make? And I appreciated that,

7:29 Speaker 2: and it.

7:29 Speaker 1: That started to shape why I would also be like,

7:33 Speaker 1: I wonder if anyone's gonna expose this one day, like and.

7:37 Speaker 3: I went back and rewatched. I didn't have too many issues.

7:41 Speaker 1: I mean, hello, even Marcel being I watched her season

7:45 Speaker 1: of Next Top Model when she was booked for Housewoves

7:49 Speaker 1: of Atlanta.

7:50 Speaker 2: I was like, this is it, y'all don't even know

7:52 Speaker 2: what you have. Even the disa, she knew she was

7:55 Speaker 2: gonna win. She was TV goal.

7:57 Speaker 1: It was actually really a disappointment when she was on

7:59 Speaker 1: that I did not find even the diva to arrive.

8:04 Speaker 3: But beautiful girl deserved to win her year.

8:07 Speaker 2: I do think.

8:08 Speaker 1: Okay, gorgeous girl, Tarantelay and no love that for her,

8:11 Speaker 1: couldn't tell me it.

8:12 Speaker 2: Wasn't high fashion.

8:14 Speaker 1: I was like, I guess I will never be a model,

8:17 Speaker 1: and that's just fine, Okay, But I say that to

8:21 Speaker 1: say I used to go down these deep the rabbit

8:23 Speaker 1: holes Wikipedia link after link after link looking for what

8:27 Speaker 1: was going on with these people anyway, and found a

8:30 Speaker 1: few people like I did see that Shandy went back

8:33 Speaker 1: to working near Walgreens.

8:34 Speaker 2: That was confusing to me as a youth.

8:36 Speaker 1: There were a lot of things that I'm like, oh

8:37 Speaker 1: so Tyra must be not shit, And that is another

8:40 Speaker 1: reason I would like watch her show. You're trying to

8:42 Speaker 1: get to know her. She seemed so damn relatable, like

8:47 Speaker 1: that was really even though she's a model. She I

8:50 Speaker 1: think she even had her talk show to be like,

8:52 Speaker 1: even though I'm super gorgeous, I just like you, girl.

8:56 Speaker 1: That's why I put on this prosthetic belly to be

8:58 Speaker 1: a fake fat girl for day and see how the

9:01 Speaker 1: world treats me.

9:02 Speaker 2: I watched that episode live as a.

9:04 Speaker 1: Young like medically declared obese teenager, fighting and eating disorder

9:09 Speaker 1: and having a competitive dance career. Loved coming home from

9:14 Speaker 1: eighth grade and watching Tyra Banks in one episode smack

9:18 Speaker 1: her ass and say kiss.

9:20 Speaker 2: My fat ass, and then another be like, what's it

9:23 Speaker 2: like to be fat for a day? Guys? Isn't it torturous?

9:28 Speaker 3: I should have known this, Like Tara has told us

9:31 Speaker 3: who the fuck.

9:31 Speaker 2: She was for years, years, years, and I'm.

9:37 Speaker 1: Like sitting here in this thing, like, huh, it was

9:41 Speaker 1: that bad? And I'm like, you know what the stars

9:44 Speaker 1: do a line with this information? Oh this sounds correct,

9:48 Speaker 1: this sounds very correct.

9:50 Speaker 2: What have you heard about how bad it was? Like?

9:52 Speaker 2: We got a little bit watching this, But what did

9:56 Speaker 2: you know? Look before we co for Instagram, before the Twitter,

10:03 Speaker 2: there was the Aol chat rooms, and there was the

10:08 Speaker 2: MySpace blogs. And do not for one minute think that

10:14 Speaker 2: some of these cycled out girls did not come to

10:17 Speaker 2: these chat rooms just to give discourse. But back then,

10:24 Speaker 2: you know, we didn't have influencers. We didn't have the

10:29 Speaker 2: platforms that people have now with social media. Back then

10:33 Speaker 2: it was just in its infancy. So these women were

10:37 Speaker 2: not or were in some cases in later years. Some

10:40 Speaker 2: of the men did not have a platform to speak

10:46 Speaker 2: their voice, and when it became time for them, when

10:49 Speaker 2: they could, they wouldn't, and the ones that did, like

10:53 Speaker 2: you said, were blacklisted almost immediately, like shit, A, oh

11:00 Speaker 2: my god, Arian Adrian, I remember.

11:03 Speaker 1: When I went back to watch like this is the

11:06 Speaker 1: origin of MANI like the persona.

11:08 Speaker 2: Of the pop culture queen. Like I would go back.

11:11 Speaker 1: And watch the old season and be like, now, way

11:13 Speaker 1: the hell is this girl? I ain't never seen her.

11:15 Speaker 1: I haven't seen her.

11:16 Speaker 2: And while it's playing, you know, first season, second season, third.

11:19 Speaker 1: I remember when Yoanna House like got the job to

11:24 Speaker 1: replace Elizabeth Hasselback on like what Not to No not

11:29 Speaker 1: what not to Wear? That's Stacy London. Oh like Fashion

11:33 Speaker 1: for Less or twenty minutes or less or some kind

11:35 Speaker 1: of fashion show on Style Network. Yes, but I mean

11:40 Speaker 1: like the interwoven connection was like yo oona, she's working.

11:43 Speaker 1: This is facy, this is the big deal. Pie, It's like,

11:46 Speaker 1: this is it the America's next top model. World is big,

11:50 Speaker 1: we are seeing these girlies everywhere, and then I saw

11:53 Speaker 1: a very similar situation to like the America's American Idol

11:58 Speaker 1: the Voice whereat there a certain time it became real

12:02 Speaker 1: the voice like and you never saw any of those

12:05 Speaker 1: people again. I was actually shocked to even learn that

12:08 Speaker 1: they did change president, like they had different heads of

12:11 Speaker 1: networks at a certain point. I'm like, is that when

12:14 Speaker 1: the shift happened? Because it was not going break for

12:19 Speaker 1: some time. We're gonna save what the problems were internally

12:25 Speaker 1: with the show make up for a second, but I'm

12:28 Speaker 1: just like, in the scheme of it being a popular

12:32 Speaker 1: show on the air, is that when the change shifted?

12:36 Speaker 2: Like I don't understand, I know exactly when it shifted, Okay,

12:41 Speaker 2: well it was it was the competition. I think it

12:43 Speaker 2: was cycle seventeen, and that was the one with that

12:47 Speaker 2: was the one with the with the final runway walk

12:51 Speaker 2: with the clock pendulums. Yes, and it kept hitting them

12:54 Speaker 2: girls in the time, not only out, not only was

12:59 Speaker 2: it hitting the girl but that set alone cost millions

13:05 Speaker 2: and to produce those episodes it was costing the network

13:12 Speaker 2: more and then the ratings were giving them. So what

13:17 Speaker 2: happened was is when they shifted presidents, he dialed that

13:20 Speaker 2: budget back and that's why it was and he said,

13:24 Speaker 2: that's integrate and bring men in. Yeah, and that's and

13:31 Speaker 2: that's what happened. And that's when that shift happened. And

13:35 Speaker 2: then once the guys came in, the girls were disinterested

13:39 Speaker 2: and nobody was just feeling it.

13:42 Speaker 1: Nobody was it was it seemed who won that season.

13:46 Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to find out, because that tells

13:51 Speaker 1: a lot of people.

13:52 Speaker 2: This sen is Lisa Demtto. Was it that late? Yeah?

13:57 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're right.

14:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, this feels like yesterday. I also feels like it

14:02 Speaker 1: was so long ago. At the same time, Well, that

14:05 Speaker 1: was so interesting, Yeah it was.

14:08 Speaker 2: And I liked her a lot. I thought she was

14:10 Speaker 2: quirky as hell, kind of.

14:12 Speaker 1: A bitch, but in a fun way. And I thought

14:17 Speaker 1: that that show was a good platform for those girls.

14:19 Speaker 1: I mean, I let me say this, when I started

14:23 Speaker 1: watching it, I wasn't shocked in who they asked to

14:27 Speaker 1: sit down. I was actually probably more shocked than who

14:30 Speaker 1: actually said yes to do it. That's why I was, like,

14:33 Speaker 1: I think Tyra and like, for instance, Danielle were told

14:39 Speaker 1: two different things of what they were able what they

14:42 Speaker 1: were sitting down to do. And I honestly, I almost

14:46 Speaker 1: want to tell the directors, what what.

14:50 Speaker 3: Side were you on when you put it out?

14:53 Speaker 1: Because is it a setup for More America's next toime model,

14:57 Speaker 1: as if you're in the sun of Tyra, Because I

15:00 Speaker 1: almost could have done without her completely.

15:03 Speaker 2: But I think that I needed to hear her.

15:08 Speaker 3: You, okay, you wanted to hear I think if I

15:11 Speaker 3: guess that makes sense.

15:11 Speaker 1: Because if I knew she was gonna be dis delusional,

15:13 Speaker 1: I guess I would have known that now, but I

15:16 Speaker 1: guess nothing ever told me I would.

15:17 Speaker 2: Think that was going to get accountability from her. I

15:20 Speaker 2: think that I was worried.

15:21 Speaker 1: I would have been worried that if she participated, does

15:25 Speaker 1: that deter others.

15:27 Speaker 2: From telling more or.

15:29 Speaker 1: From participating, because but then of who they got. I

15:33 Speaker 1: was actually shocked at how many people sat down, all

15:37 Speaker 1: all the Jays and Nigel sitting down and discussing, oh

15:42 Speaker 1: she was doing dirty, everybody from top to bottom, in

15:45 Speaker 1: and out, not just the girls.

15:49 Speaker 2: And that's not even that there was the war between

15:52 Speaker 2: her and Janice Dickinson. My god, I wish they got

15:55 Speaker 2: Janis to sit down for this. I would have taken.

16:00 Speaker 1: Is coming out on eyes and that the motto is promoting.

16:06 Speaker 2: She said, yeah, bullshit, and I said it was bullshit.

16:13 Speaker 1: Tell me more, Lisa, everything, everything, everything, start from the beginning,

16:18 Speaker 1: leave nothing out, Like this is just the taste I

16:22 Speaker 1: could have. Even with this, the way this was structured,

16:25 Speaker 1: with the criticisms that I have of it, I still

16:27 Speaker 1: could have done at.

16:28 Speaker 2: Least three more episodes. I have so many more questions,

16:31 Speaker 2: like the leads to so many more questions it does

16:36 Speaker 2: it really does? I mean like?

16:38 Speaker 1: And also they could have pressed more. I really just

16:42 Speaker 1: feel like they could have pressed a little bit. You

16:44 Speaker 1: already had her.

16:45 Speaker 3: In the chair at that point and Ken in.

16:49 Speaker 1: The chair to let them consistently say it was just

16:53 Speaker 1: a sign of the time that you guys were asking

16:56 Speaker 1: for it. It's kind of like a cop out. Y'all

16:58 Speaker 1: could have been like, yeah, but you didn't think it

17:02 Speaker 1: was a little far.

17:03 Speaker 2: Was there a space for anyone.

17:04 Speaker 1: To tell you that they put it they didn't like it,

17:06 Speaker 1: because what I'm hearing you everybody's asking for but only

17:09 Speaker 1: people who can make those decisions were you Tube?

17:12 Speaker 2: And But yet also thedn't ask them?

17:14 Speaker 3: Could someone like Jay?

17:16 Speaker 1: The protesters say I don't like this option as a

17:20 Speaker 1: creative director, and if the answer is no, I want

17:22 Speaker 1: her to be uncomfortable and answer that question because someone

17:25 Speaker 1: should have been able to speak the hell up quite often.

17:28 Speaker 1: And what it sounds like is not everybody was that

17:30 Speaker 1: fucking delusional like we thought they were.

17:35 Speaker 2: Well, I always thought Nigel was just pretty to look

17:37 Speaker 2: at it. I didn't think he was that smart. I

17:39 Speaker 2: didn't realize I didn't realize what he was clocking and

17:44 Speaker 2: bringing awareness to and he was just being shut down,

17:47 Speaker 2: so he just stopped.

17:50 Speaker 1: I'm also am curious because, like when the first episode

17:54 Speaker 1: of this starts and we get to learn the origin

17:56 Speaker 1: the start of the show, it's really interesting to even

18:01 Speaker 1: hear Tyra misrepresent what she remembers her own origin to

18:06 Speaker 1: be so many times because she talks about and we

18:10 Speaker 1: see ethence of early seasons of her seeming like it

18:14 Speaker 1: was about modeling. It had the right intentions, it seemed

18:19 Speaker 1: she was giving behind the scenes. That's what everybody was

18:21 Speaker 1: on the premise for and that's what made it us success.

18:24 Speaker 1: But the success and the gimmicks and the probably over

18:27 Speaker 1: sharing and over observing of the women being true humans

18:32 Speaker 1: at a time where you know, we're pre and during

18:34 Speaker 1: in post real world, we're looking at real world.

18:37 Speaker 3: Looking at survivor looking at you're a factor.

18:39 Speaker 1: People like to see humans freak the hell out, apparently

18:42 Speaker 1: like it's a thing. So so that Bob coupled with

18:49 Speaker 1: like the ratings of like watching girls make beautiful pictures

18:53 Speaker 1: and everybody being able to realize their dream over so

18:56 Speaker 1: we thought, you really think.

18:57 Speaker 2: Like that's what contributed to the show's success.

19:00 Speaker 1: It really didn't seem like it made sense for her

19:04 Speaker 1: except for yes, ego is the third the fourth judge.

19:07 Speaker 2: We know Tyra's ego is like the other judge.

19:12 Speaker 1: It takes up most of the realm because for her

19:14 Speaker 1: to say it was about.

19:15 Speaker 2: This modeling thing and it had all the right intentions

19:18 Speaker 2: and then be like.

19:18 Speaker 1: Well, you guys wanted us to make it bigger and

19:21 Speaker 1: now we're making it even bigger and biggest, and this

19:23 Speaker 1: is what we're gonna have to do. And then to

19:26 Speaker 1: tell me if I'm open to criticism, you need to

19:28 Speaker 1: be open to criticism.

19:29 Speaker 2: I said, now, bitch, what I think is you need

19:35 Speaker 2: a quick, a little hello Hello.

19:43 Speaker 1: I don't promote violence, but I just think that we

19:45 Speaker 1: need to get a little knock some sense into us.

19:49 Speaker 2: The thing that got me about the competition as a

19:52 Speaker 2: whole when you hear like you said, we hear the

19:54 Speaker 2: origin story. What they were presenting was a modeling competition

19:58 Speaker 2: that would enable these young women to enter the industry

20:02 Speaker 2: with a set of knowledge once they were done cycling

20:04 Speaker 2: whenever they were out that they didn't have before, and

20:08 Speaker 2: they would have a portfolio that would go along with it.

20:12 Speaker 2: And then to find out they got none of that

20:15 Speaker 2: when they walked down.

20:16 Speaker 1: There none, not even a lot of thing. It's crazy

20:21 Speaker 1: to think about. I mean, if anything, they got work

20:25 Speaker 1: in spite of the fact that they were on this show.

20:27 Speaker 1: I mean they basically do montage just later on another

20:31 Speaker 1: second or third episode of just like women being like

20:34 Speaker 1: all the things that they did instead of modeling. You know,

20:37 Speaker 1: all the way is that they didn't work because they

20:40 Speaker 1: couldn't Dan Yelle at the time, Danny is like her

20:43 Speaker 1: model name and everything. She was like literally told girl,

20:47 Speaker 1: we had to put you in the corner like you

20:49 Speaker 1: were just like a diversity hire. But not because of

20:53 Speaker 1: your race, in fact you're gorge but because you came

20:55 Speaker 1: from that silly TV show to know that she was

20:58 Speaker 1: in the same model house with Actually kind of crazy

21:02 Speaker 1: because Janelle von is a real model. She actually like

21:05 Speaker 1: kind of took a break and just stepped away to

21:07 Speaker 1: have kids with a football player that she's no longer with.

21:10 Speaker 1: But she's like the last time I saw her years ago,

21:13 Speaker 1: I was walking to H and M for Christmas shopping

21:16 Speaker 1: and she was plastered in the window Shanelli mon like

21:20 Speaker 1: plastered in their holiday collection gorgeous woman, And I was like,

21:25 Speaker 1: you could have had a chance. Andy, We're in the

21:27 Speaker 1: same and it will we get a Kendo Jinner and

21:30 Speaker 1: not a Danny.

21:31 Speaker 2: Come on, man, I mean, honest to god, I think

21:35 Speaker 2: the most safest and successful contestant that got out of

21:39 Speaker 2: it and all roads Ley de Bravo Molly on Southern Charm.

21:46 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean that, and I will give them Winnie

21:48 Speaker 1: Harlowe Winnie Harlow. But I to be honest, I forgot

21:53 Speaker 1: she was on that show because I will think I

21:55 Speaker 1: was watching fully by then I was in and out,

21:58 Speaker 1: especially when it switched to VH one.

22:00 Speaker 2: It was even harder. Okay.

22:03 Speaker 1: Can I tell you I watched the rita Or season.

22:05 Speaker 1: I was actually hoping that they was to talk about it.

22:09 Speaker 3: I was not. In fact, I thought it was weird

22:12 Speaker 3: that a British girl.

22:13 Speaker 1: Was gonna host America's next Top Model, but the fact

22:16 Speaker 1: that it wasn't Tyra intrigued me. The fact that it

22:19 Speaker 1: was Ashley Graham as one of the an actual plus

22:24 Speaker 1: size model, which I also thought was crazy because in

22:27 Speaker 1: order for acte Graham to walk, Whitney had to do it.

22:31 Speaker 1: Like Whitney was the first one I ever well, Takara

22:33 Speaker 1: was the first of them all. Like Ye, Takara went

22:36 Speaker 1: on to work on BET. The Black community did embrace

22:40 Speaker 1: her wholeheartedly because she didn't represent a body that we

22:43 Speaker 1: didn't understand. Although Tyra thought that that was the case,

22:47 Speaker 1: she started the show again. She said, with all these

22:50 Speaker 1: we gotta break up the beauty standards and the plain looking,

22:54 Speaker 1: plain jang girl can also be a gorgeous girl. The

22:56 Speaker 1: thicker girl can also be a whatever. Kiss my fat

22:59 Speaker 1: as she said, and the cellulating the booty. I remember

23:03 Speaker 1: thinking that was so empowering when she did that on

23:06 Speaker 1: her talk show, But then to see them make girls

23:10 Speaker 1: like Kinya be the fat girl of this season when

23:14 Speaker 1: I at the time, like tw was literally over a

23:19 Speaker 1: toilet bow who looked like Kenya, like, what are you

23:22 Speaker 1: even talking about that? And I'm realizing how much more

23:26 Speaker 1: damage they did forget even to those women, to us

23:33 Speaker 1: like these are girls I remember. I mean, I have

23:37 Speaker 1: I know the women the names of America's Next Top

23:39 Speaker 1: Model contestants randomly more than anything else, because you would

23:43 Speaker 1: see them on other things, and I would watch because

23:45 Speaker 1: of that. You know, I only watched Chicago meant for

23:48 Speaker 1: a day because of Yaya. My mom was watching and

23:51 Speaker 1: I said, Gannatactive. My mom was like, huh, now, this

23:54 Speaker 1: is one of my shows, Chicago, not one of your housewives.

23:57 Speaker 1: I said, no, that is yah Ya DaCosta. She don't

24:02 Speaker 1: get her hand wrap on. But I know mine girl,

24:06 Speaker 1: she was gonna go far and she did. She's on

24:09 Speaker 1: a show. I was so happy for her. I thought

24:13 Speaker 1: it was working. To know that not only was it

24:17 Speaker 1: not working, that they knew it wasn't working. I imagine

24:22 Speaker 1: that and shout out to Imani from Taste of Reality

24:24 Speaker 1: and we lightly touched on it. When I was talking

24:27 Speaker 1: with Ashley and Emani from Taste the Reality about Potomac,

24:30 Speaker 1: it just came up because it's been on our mind

24:32 Speaker 1: all week. She was like, you're gonna cry in the

24:34 Speaker 1: third the third a tear I did let out a

24:38 Speaker 1: thud tear I did when Danny said that ye.

24:45 Speaker 3: Teen years later.

24:48 Speaker 1: Tyra calls her and I'm like, for what reason, under

24:51 Speaker 1: what circumstances, and why if for nothing else other than

24:54 Speaker 1: you know this is about to come out, or you

24:56 Speaker 1: sat down and did this and it asked you about it.

24:58 Speaker 1: And what's even worse is that lets me know that

25:01 Speaker 1: what it looks like was true that you don't remember

25:04 Speaker 1: what you did to these women because you didn't remember,

25:09 Speaker 1: but you knew to call now and be like, you know, Danny,

25:13 Speaker 1: I saw you struggling. I knew you were having a

25:18 Speaker 1: hard time opening doors, and I basically rode the fence.

25:22 Speaker 1: I didn't help you at all. I just kind of

25:24 Speaker 1: stood there. Forgett Eve and you being on the show

25:28 Speaker 1: and you promising me a.

25:29 Speaker 2: Career Bobby winning.

25:30 Speaker 1: Forget even the fact that I could should get on

25:34 Speaker 1: that ass for contractual obligations of you not delivering.

25:38 Speaker 3: But beyond that, you're a supermodel.

25:41 Speaker 2: You know people.

25:43 Speaker 1: You are a business woman, bankable productions by this point

25:47 Speaker 1: is definitely doing the show.

25:49 Speaker 2: You are an entity.

25:52 Speaker 1: You don't have any way to help this young black

25:56 Speaker 1: girl who reminds you of you, who reminds you of yourself.

26:01 Speaker 2: I just saw so much in myself and her.

26:04 Speaker 1: And yes, I know she also said that about about Tiffany,

26:08 Speaker 1: and I think it's very telling that Tiffany did not

26:10 Speaker 1: sit down for this though I think she could have read.

26:13 Speaker 2: I think she should. She did go on the internet and.

26:16 Speaker 1: Say, fuck Tyra, fuck that documentary, fuck the shape Room,

26:20 Speaker 1: FU everybody reporting it, because the most flipped meme of

26:26 Speaker 1: the show is her being humiliated by this lady who

26:30 Speaker 1: was going that shit because she's not sad enough that

26:34 Speaker 1: they didn't torture her. She wasn't happy to leave the

26:37 Speaker 1: torture that she was happy to leave the torture they

26:40 Speaker 1: were she Tyra was pissed that she was so lax

26:44 Speaker 1: of days ago.

26:45 Speaker 2: I do remember being like, wow, she really is like.

26:49 Speaker 1: Not that emotional about it. She doesn't seem to care

26:52 Speaker 1: that much. But now I'm like, well, she was.

26:56 Speaker 2: Over it, she was done, she was checked out. She

26:59 Speaker 2: just need to get out of that space, thank God.

27:03 Speaker 1: And to know they were basically all held hostage till

27:05 Speaker 1: the end is even crazier.

27:07 Speaker 2: Well, but then that other interview, the other interview that

27:12 Speaker 2: they made her to oh yeah, what the hell leave

27:18 Speaker 2: her alone at that point, and anything that was needed

27:23 Speaker 2: to be said was said. Just let her sit in

27:26 Speaker 2: her hotel room and decompress.

27:29 Speaker 1: Truly, I was like shocked that they went ahead and

27:32 Speaker 1: treated her like that, and then to know that she

27:34 Speaker 1: had to stick around for that that long.

27:36 Speaker 2: Everybody was held hostage.

27:38 Speaker 1: To be close near the tyrast so that she could

27:40 Speaker 1: have complete control. I get it at the timeAs for confidentiality,

27:44 Speaker 1: you know, but it's actually kind of crazy because we

27:47 Speaker 1: had less means to get information out then than we

27:51 Speaker 1: do now, and so it's like, let the girly go home.

27:55 Speaker 1: Who's gonna tell the inquirer? You don't even know who

27:58 Speaker 1: she is to get released anyway. So it just really

28:02 Speaker 1: made me crazy that they like all went with them,

28:04 Speaker 1: travel with them state and oh.

28:05 Speaker 2: Tell no phones.

28:07 Speaker 1: I would feel like that was mental that would be

28:10 Speaker 1: a mental peril, like that would be a lot.

28:12 Speaker 2: Well, that's what they do with the traders, you know,

28:14 Speaker 2: They isolate them until it's all over, And that's true.

28:17 Speaker 1: I do think they should do that, though, because somebody

28:20 Speaker 1: would get to the traders, get to them.

28:22 Speaker 3: I me us we'd all be like, hey, what's going

28:27 Speaker 3: on over there?

28:28 Speaker 2: How was he them her? Did you get your phone?

28:32 Speaker 2: Did you get your Are you out yet? Are you out? Oh?

28:37 Speaker 2: So you're out? What's that mean?

28:43 Speaker 1: No? Seriously, but it was It was interesting. Especially also

28:48 Speaker 1: they didn't relive I didn't know the extent of what

28:54 Speaker 1: happened to Shandy because I absolutely watched that Top Model

28:59 Speaker 1: reunion on Tyra where like I was sneaking to watch

29:04 Speaker 1: these shows and to know that I'm putting my own

29:07 Speaker 1: self at risk. Now, I believe my mama children out

29:10 Speaker 1: there listening to your mama, because she would have been

29:11 Speaker 1: mad at me for watching most of this and it

29:14 Speaker 1: not allowed me to do it.

29:15 Speaker 2: I was sheltered from.

29:16 Speaker 1: So much, but I shouldn't have because, my God, the

29:19 Speaker 1: messaging of what it was in there. I tell people this,

29:21 Speaker 1: this is my fun fact. Because I grew up in

29:23 Speaker 1: like a really really really like strict religious home and

29:27 Speaker 1: culture and church that did not like the Mormon church,

29:31 Speaker 1: but black people didn't talk about sex, and everything I

29:34 Speaker 1: learned about sex from the Tyra Banks Show.

29:36 Speaker 2: Okay, absolutely so.

29:39 Speaker 1: I actually feel like this was the final marker of

29:43 Speaker 1: my upbringing being absolute trash. First, it was the Nickelodeon

29:48 Speaker 1: doc Oh, it was every show that I grew up watching.

29:53 Speaker 1: It wasn't y'all's nickeloneon with the cartoons and shit, it.

29:57 Speaker 2: Was my Nickeloneon. I response for Ariana Grando.

30:01 Speaker 1: I'm responsible for the success of these people.

30:05 Speaker 2: Okay.

30:06 Speaker 1: I stopped when Zoe went on one ended because she

30:09 Speaker 1: got pregnant. Okay, to know that my life is now

30:12 Speaker 1: ruined on the front and the backside.

30:15 Speaker 2: Of my TV watching Kissed.

30:17 Speaker 1: In fact, the only thing that I watched that was

30:19 Speaker 1: pure that I snuff to watch that was good and

30:22 Speaker 1: pure and still is great. It is literally Housewives because

30:26 Speaker 1: I also was sneaking to watch OC I got like

30:29 Speaker 1: caught up one day randomly watching Tamra yell at thumb bitch.

30:32 Speaker 2: And I was like, now, what is this.

30:36 Speaker 3: Gun?

30:39 Speaker 2: Oh? It was great, I want to say.

30:41 Speaker 1: It was like season three or four, and I was like,

30:42 Speaker 1: get her a gun, get her a dude.

30:45 Speaker 4: No.

30:45 Speaker 1: She said like, hi's your daddy, hid your husband, your

30:48 Speaker 1: daddy's girls directions on the lows.

30:51 Speaker 2: I said, oh, no, love it.

30:54 Speaker 3: I mean grant that we all know where they are now,

30:56 Speaker 3: and again that's kind of ruined because they all suck.

30:59 Speaker 2: But at the time of great it was always had

31:03 Speaker 2: you had a.

31:04 Speaker 1: N TM for me and housewise and I was having

31:07 Speaker 1: a great ass time.

31:09 Speaker 2: Oh wow, all I had every sun I looked forward

31:16 Speaker 2: to it every week and I mean, oh honey, I

31:20 Speaker 2: was like I told all my girls, I were like,

31:22 Speaker 2: you want to be on top.

31:26 Speaker 1: I loved an opening shot. I loved every cycle's new

31:29 Speaker 1: opening like opening.

31:31 Speaker 2: I loved the mores more.

31:33 Speaker 1: But like I watched in these three parts, Tyro also

31:36 Speaker 1: shift being like it's a modeling show behind the scenes

31:39 Speaker 1: to be like.

31:40 Speaker 2: It was a big show and we had to make

31:42 Speaker 2: it bigger and better.

31:43 Speaker 1: And more glam But still they didn't take accountability.

31:47 Speaker 3: They didn't even ask her, what do you.

31:49 Speaker 1: Say to the agencies that you had as a prize

31:56 Speaker 1: telling these girls they weren't going to book, then what

31:59 Speaker 1: do you say.

32:01 Speaker 2: How does that even work? Because and how in the

32:04 Speaker 2: world did these girls not sue them?

32:07 Speaker 1: Because I think they just had to give him the contract.

32:10 Speaker 1: They didn't have to do anything else. They had give

32:12 Speaker 1: him like a one year for modeling management contract.

32:15 Speaker 3: If you book your book, if you don't, you don't.

32:18 Speaker 1: But they didn't even send them on the go sees

32:20 Speaker 1: they have to still send you out, Like I have

32:22 Speaker 1: some friends who are models. Yeah, and they're not very tall,

32:26 Speaker 1: not all of them. One of them is that you

32:28 Speaker 1: quite short. And she gets booked all the time, and

32:30 Speaker 1: it's going back. She gets a lot of photos if

32:36 Speaker 1: and I will say, it's not too much makeup. Even

32:38 Speaker 1: the concepts for the photoshops that she does is more

32:41 Speaker 1: about the garment or the makeup that she's modeling and

32:44 Speaker 1: not a giant elephant with elephant a costume like she

32:49 Speaker 1: had these girls printing invitations for costume parties.

32:55 Speaker 2: She was for. Well, I went to Miami University in

32:58 Speaker 2: Florida for my four and my yes, but I will

33:06 Speaker 2: say for my summer internship my first year, I had

33:10 Speaker 2: a choice because I had I thought I was going

33:13 Speaker 2: to be in theater. I'm glad I chose otherwise, because

33:18 Speaker 2: you know, a business degree comes in handy. But I

33:22 Speaker 2: summer internship with Donna Karen my first summer, and I

33:28 Speaker 2: don't tell and I can tell you well, the fact

33:33 Speaker 2: that I saw her on Housewives last week, I was like, hey,

33:36 Speaker 2: that's my old boss a while. Girls, she's still a

33:44 Speaker 2: good too.

33:46 Speaker 3: Of course she does, she's Don Garrett.

33:48 Speaker 2: Well anyway, what I will tell you is is that

33:54 Speaker 2: every single designer designs for tall women. They don't do that.

34:06 Speaker 2: They don't want the short body tastes because they wanted

34:09 Speaker 2: to drape elegantly. They want the garments to flow, and

34:14 Speaker 2: shorties don't make Trust me, I saw the casting calls

34:20 Speaker 2: up close and personal, and trust you me, I handed

34:24 Speaker 2: them the lists and I would sit there. I would

34:28 Speaker 2: sit there and back and I would watch them just

34:30 Speaker 2: like a girl would walk in. Before she even did

34:33 Speaker 2: a walk, they would just check no, too short.

34:36 Speaker 3: Well.

34:36 Speaker 2: Part of my Holy Trinity of movies is the Devil's product.

34:40 Speaker 2: She's God at my house.

34:42 Speaker 1: So Miranda Priestley, like you know, there was if you

34:47 Speaker 1: weren't a tall, slim searchers person in her presence, should

34:52 Speaker 1: you be wearing clothes, you might as well give up

34:55 Speaker 1: clothes altogether if in her mind.

34:57 Speaker 2: And I understood that in the in the fashion world,

35:00 Speaker 2: I'm looking at it for that reason. Like my friend

35:02 Speaker 2: that is a mom when she does a lot of print.

35:05 Speaker 1: And a lot of beauty things because she is a

35:07 Speaker 1: short girly and so that's a fake. Oh she got

35:11 Speaker 1: a face card that don't quit, honey, and it can

35:14 Speaker 1: handle some makeup so it like without it feeling like

35:17 Speaker 1: a lot, you know, and you know what she said,

35:20 Speaker 1: I asked, ever, have you ever, like, had anybody ever

35:23 Speaker 1: on any ghosty asked you to do any alterations to

35:28 Speaker 1: your face or body? Like, I'm just curious, what, because

35:31 Speaker 1: I love me a beauty makeover. I mean even in

35:33 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys cheerleading show, it's probably now my favorite

35:37 Speaker 1: episode of the season. I love when they give them

35:39 Speaker 1: girls a fresh blowout and a little sewing. I love

35:46 Speaker 1: it when a red hot suddenly got a weave. I'm like, Oh,

35:49 Speaker 1: what's happening with that tony girl. I love it. It's

35:54 Speaker 1: tamp it's fun. I love it, like do it but

35:57 Speaker 1: closing girlies gaps and then widing them to first of all, Daniel,

36:03 Speaker 1: the only option was for her to win. I remember

36:06 Speaker 1: thinking that then, and when watching this, I was like,

36:09 Speaker 1: I don't remember if she does win, but I remember

36:11 Speaker 1: that right now it needs to be her. I can't

36:14 Speaker 1: even look it up because this is so freaking egregious

36:17 Speaker 1: to have that girl be so adamant about not doing

36:20 Speaker 1: it and be like, you will go home, and I

36:21 Speaker 1: know you come from nothing and you don't want to

36:24 Speaker 1: go home to go back and do what You're gonna

36:27 Speaker 1: come this farty because and you won't close your gap.

36:30 Speaker 1: It just felt so bully to me and then too,

36:33 Speaker 1: But that is like a separate offense.

36:35 Speaker 2: Other than.

36:38 Speaker 3: That two years later.

36:40 Speaker 2: It's physical abuse on a level that I never thought

36:44 Speaker 2: i'd see on TV. And even back when it happened,

36:49 Speaker 2: I said that it.

36:49 Speaker 3: Was I thought that was crazy. I was like, Wow,

36:51 Speaker 3: she really gonna do this?

36:53 Speaker 2: Told them to go straight to hell and walk right

36:55 Speaker 2: on it. I would have went home.

36:56 Speaker 3: I would have been Tiffany, all right, it'll be okay,

37:01 Speaker 3: don't crap.

37:02 Speaker 2: And now to anybody that got a little space in

37:06 Speaker 2: the tees. But now people want that.

37:08 Speaker 1: Apparently Tyra wanted it a few seasons later when she asked.

37:12 Speaker 2: That white girl to widen her gad, so what you.

37:16 Speaker 1: Are saying you and noticed she had a supermodel to

37:19 Speaker 1: pull out them.

37:21 Speaker 2: She had a name to say, Oh well, you didn't

37:26 Speaker 2: know your history before then?

37:28 Speaker 3: Oh no, it's just not marketable when the girl looks

37:30 Speaker 3: a black woman.

37:31 Speaker 1: Okay, got you heard, But you in it for the

37:35 Speaker 1: black girls. You want everybody to be included. You want

37:38 Speaker 1: to change the game of modeling. If I teach them

37:40 Speaker 1: how to walk and how to talk and how to

37:42 Speaker 1: do it. You know, it doesn't matter what they look like. Okay,

37:45 Speaker 1: then you know what that was.

37:47 Speaker 2: You know what that wasn't even lie so you don't

37:50 Speaker 2: know what that was. I know exactly what Tyro was doing.

37:53 Speaker 3: Oh, I know exactly what Tyra's doing. And I'm gonna

37:55 Speaker 3: I'm gonna trigger.

37:56 Speaker 1: Some people because I do love RuPaul's drag Ray, but

38:00 Speaker 1: I'm gonna prison I'm gonna draw a comparison because if

38:05 Speaker 1: you watch the Draggy Girlies, you know, historically sad Rue

38:12 Speaker 1: can be the only fabulous black queen in the room.

38:16 Speaker 2: Period. It is, period, point blank, the only one.

38:20 Speaker 1: It is a reunion, the only one at a convention.

38:24 Speaker 1: So that means that none of their bitches are making

38:26 Speaker 1: it till like the top four or five. Okay, there's

38:28 Speaker 1: a reason why so few black queens have one.

38:32 Speaker 3: Though they have been many, there's only been two that

38:37 Speaker 3: have won.

38:38 Speaker 2: Well, no, just I was gonna say, only two come

38:41 Speaker 2: to my mind that have had long Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

38:45 Speaker 2: only two.

38:46 Speaker 1: Shake cool Ai is probably the one in Shape when

38:49 Speaker 1: Shake Coula won over. Yeah, I understand, which is crazy

38:54 Speaker 1: because Shake Coulay also hosts The America's Next Time on

38:57 Speaker 1: the podcast Rewatch I'm like, Oh behind God, which I

39:05 Speaker 1: only started listening to because I went on a dumpster

39:09 Speaker 1: dive with Tom and his sister Kicks and that a

39:12 Speaker 1: long time ago, and they had me Rewatch the girl

39:15 Speaker 1: who cheated the episode where Shandy was assaulted asterisk allegedly

39:23 Speaker 1: at least what I look like, at.

39:24 Speaker 2: Least void of the opportunity to give consent.

39:27 Speaker 1: It didn't look like a lot of consent was happening,

39:29 Speaker 1: but a lot of privacy was.

39:31 Speaker 2: Definitely being overlooked.

39:34 Speaker 1: And for that we also got the call to her

39:38 Speaker 1: boyfriend about it.

39:41 Speaker 2: That would did freak me out.

39:44 Speaker 1: That has lived in my brain for years, Like I've

39:47 Speaker 1: thought about it, been rewatching it, what about five six

39:50 Speaker 1: years later, six years ago, I still think about it.

39:54 Speaker 2: I could probably redo that entire thing, like from memory,

39:57 Speaker 2: like the fact that the fact that they videotaped it.

40:01 Speaker 2: I was like just at some point.

40:02 Speaker 1: And had to lie, you can tell him, And because

40:08 Speaker 1: their only option was they isolated her.

40:09 Speaker 3: They said, you will not get to talk to him.

40:11 Speaker 2: You can't.

40:12 Speaker 1: Sorry, you gotta live with it, knowing good and God

40:15 Speaker 1: damn well, that she was not gonna be able to

40:16 Speaker 1: do that, and she's going forward and then all of

40:18 Speaker 1: a sudden, oh yeah, we can.

40:20 Speaker 2: Give you a phone, but we got to film it.

40:22 Speaker 2: It was s a on your cam run yeah. And

40:26 Speaker 2: they didn't call the police. They didn't do the right

40:29 Speaker 2: thing by her, and she had to live with that.

40:33 Speaker 2: Why didn't he even let these men in the like?

40:36 Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

40:37 Speaker 1: Like, I just think production that way, vetting everybody that

40:42 Speaker 1: comes in and out. When you were using these like

40:45 Speaker 1: extras to be drivers for bocs, that's one thing on camera,

40:49 Speaker 1: but if you know they're coming back, the fact that

40:52 Speaker 1: you're even there to do it, you need to call

40:53 Speaker 1: somebody that would not be allowed on those shows today.

40:56 Speaker 2: I get it.

40:57 Speaker 1: It's quote unquote a sign of the time. You mean

40:59 Speaker 1: to tell me that even in TOO three or four,

41:01 Speaker 1: we weren't supposed to protect the people we were paying

41:04 Speaker 1: to do the show we're on at least a little bit.

41:08 Speaker 2: It blows my mind. It blows my mind. And once

41:11 Speaker 2: the assault happened, nobody did the damn right thing. Come on, now,

41:18 Speaker 2: that's so crazy.

41:19 Speaker 1: And then Tyra, you was spoken upon a bitch for

41:21 Speaker 1: putting her on TV and making her play it, especially

41:24 Speaker 1: when you asked her have you seen it? You already

41:27 Speaker 1: got your TV moment. If anything, it should have. It

41:31 Speaker 1: could have been just played for the audience, like for us,

41:35 Speaker 1: like a little flashback and then not her or something.

41:38 Speaker 1: But you also could have she's there and agrees to

41:41 Speaker 1: sit down, and it's like, you know, we tried, and

41:44 Speaker 1: we started the fact that, like Tyral, it seemed like

41:48 Speaker 1: she knew more information, and she was like, I know

41:51 Speaker 1: you guys kept going right, then, why are you showing this?

41:55 Speaker 2: Why is she doing that?

41:57 Speaker 3: You are the stone cold bitch like Tyran's.

42:00 Speaker 1: That wasn't for the show, that wasn't for A and

42:02 Speaker 1: t M, that wasn't gonna use ratings.

42:05 Speaker 2: You can already tell she doesn't care to find out

42:09 Speaker 2: Miss Jay had had a stroke and was yet still

42:15 Speaker 2: has yet yet to visit her. You piece of I'm sorry,

42:21 Speaker 2: you're a piece of ship.

42:23 Speaker 1: You've been working with those men for literally they made

42:27 Speaker 1: your show.

42:28 Speaker 2: They made it.

42:30 Speaker 1: I mean they faded as straight up said that's not Beyonce,

42:33 Speaker 1: that's Tyro because those are the Jays, which I ain't

42:36 Speaker 1: gonna hold you as a beehiver. In the early two thousands.

42:39 Speaker 1: You probably could have confused Tyrann Beyonce at the time.

42:43 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Beyonce looked like two thousand and three.

42:48 Speaker 2: Tarra, you have the curls, you.

42:50 Speaker 1: Have a light blonde, honey blonde like you know, you know,

42:55 Speaker 1: it's like a brown brown blonde. Yeah, the light eyes,

42:59 Speaker 1: the softly glowing skin like they love the LII.

43:03 Speaker 2: That was the vibe.

43:03 Speaker 1: That was what y'all expected in one of them pretty

43:05 Speaker 1: black girls time. So I'm not shocked that people confused

43:09 Speaker 1: you for that, But the fact that they recognized that

43:11 Speaker 1: you were Tyra because of the Jays that wouldn't taken

43:13 Speaker 1: that as a compliment guys we made at our show

43:15 Speaker 1: is so big, Oh my god, because they also mean

43:18 Speaker 1: that they know your Tyra because they see the Jays.

43:23 Speaker 2: How do you hear? It can only be about.

43:26 Speaker 1: Me so much so that you ruin your own show

43:29 Speaker 1: and they started showing all those article clippings.

43:31 Speaker 2: That was the best moment for me.

43:33 Speaker 1: It made the entire two hours of abusive models worth

43:36 Speaker 1: it and me and my jaw was on the ground

43:39 Speaker 1: for so much that it wasn't until I started seeing

43:41 Speaker 1: and be like, yeah, she started getting real desperate and

43:45 Speaker 1: we could tell Vulture with like, the problem is Tyra yaight.

43:49 Speaker 2: It was, And remember when she got outed from that show,

43:53 Speaker 2: that's when ninety percent of it had come out.

43:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not because she was like fuck it.

44:00 Speaker 2: It was that extra ten percent that we didn't know

44:02 Speaker 2: about until just this week.

44:05 Speaker 3: Who do you think leaked it to page six that

44:07 Speaker 3: the J's girl? Oh?

44:08 Speaker 2: You know J. You know it's J if I just

44:14 Speaker 2: feeling in my bones it was most likely allegedly allegedly J.

44:19 Speaker 1: Just our pens. It's our opinion, it's my opinion. It's

44:22 Speaker 1: probably who I saw her yelling at.

44:24 Speaker 2: That was crazy. How to look it was either J,

44:28 Speaker 2: Miss J or Nigel and one of the three.

44:33 Speaker 1: I feel like Nigel was too blond sided and not

44:35 Speaker 1: that bright, so I think that he was just hurt.

44:38 Speaker 1: I think it was definitely a J. I also like,

44:44 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just feel like maybe I don't know.

44:46 Speaker 1: I think it had it has to be one of

44:49 Speaker 1: the J's, but which one. If it were me, I

44:52 Speaker 1: would think it'd be mister J. I would think it

44:54 Speaker 1: would be mister J because Miss J had this soft

44:57 Speaker 1: and blow of the flowers and blocked the man.

45:00 Speaker 2: Seen this. But I think it caught up to him

45:03 Speaker 2: late like oh damn okay, like why do you fire me?

45:08 Speaker 1: That's interesting, but mister j wanted to leave years prior, prior, yes,

45:16 Speaker 1: so to know that now they get ousted in this

45:18 Speaker 1: way after already being ousted on the show and being

45:22 Speaker 1: moved from creative director creative producer to just a face

45:26 Speaker 1: like a talent, like go get craft services, while we the.

45:28 Speaker 2: Big Man's had the big kids handle the meeting. Bitch

45:32 Speaker 2: go to hell. Well, don't don't forget. May he rested peace?

45:36 Speaker 1: Leon Tally I said, oh my god, may he rest

45:42 Speaker 1: in peace. I absolutely remember Andre Leon Talley on this show.

45:47 Speaker 1: I thought that was a big GIF.

45:49 Speaker 2: But I was like, huh, but remember a little bit.

45:53 Speaker 2: And then he quit unceremonial quit, and nobody understood why. Yeah,

46:00 Speaker 2: and I think he must have saw some he just

46:03 Speaker 2: couldn't get down with and just balanced.

46:06 Speaker 1: And then he also was like, this is not fashion,

46:08 Speaker 1: this is pure chaos, this is stupid.

46:11 Speaker 2: This is not what I signed up for.

46:13 Speaker 1: I thought we were doing behind the scenes modeling a

46:16 Speaker 1: photo shoots and you know good and god damn well, Tyra.

46:18 Speaker 1: Tyra started sabotaging her own photo shoots there, I said it.

46:22 Speaker 3: She knew this ship would not be workable.

46:25 Speaker 1: You knew this shit would not be workable, And then

46:27 Speaker 1: to hear that she would They were picking the bad

46:29 Speaker 1: photos on purpose of certain girls for stories and ship

46:33 Speaker 1: you wanted to make sure they also couldn't work after

46:35 Speaker 1: the fact, which is even crazier, so they would be

46:38 Speaker 1: forever indebted to you, so that one day they'd come

46:40 Speaker 1: and do a goddamn reunion or one thing they thoughts.

46:44 Speaker 2: The one thing they didn't talk about, and they wanted

46:47 Speaker 2: to know, And I still want to know who got

46:51 Speaker 2: the actual film, who got the film strips? You know

46:56 Speaker 2: who got that? I was like, do they get to

46:58 Speaker 2: keep all the pictures? Or did you you keep all

47:00 Speaker 2: the pictures and just give them the losing one for

47:03 Speaker 2: their I do wonder what is their intellectual property? Like

47:08 Speaker 2: that's so interesting. I don't know, because somebody has to

47:11 Speaker 2: have all of those shots somewhere digitally. Yeah, someone has to.

47:19 Speaker 2: And I'm like, did these girls get those because I

47:22 Speaker 2: was even thinking that when they were showing, like, here's

47:26 Speaker 2: your loser picture for your portfolio, and I'm like, no, no,

47:31 Speaker 2: why don't you give them all of the shots and

47:33 Speaker 2: let them pick from those shots for their portfoliout.

47:36 Speaker 1: I mean they even pay to a scene or a

47:39 Speaker 1: clip where they were like, raseren if you think that,

47:43 Speaker 1: you know it wasn't your best shot. And I think

47:44 Speaker 1: that was when they stopped showing the girls any more

47:46 Speaker 1: shots other than the shot at the judges, because they

47:49 Speaker 1: were like, I didn't know this one was gonna be paid.

47:51 Speaker 1: This was probably my first or second shot.

47:53 Speaker 2: This was awful. Girl, I look pretty the net. I'm

47:57 Speaker 2: cuter than that. That was not like Girlies out shine.

48:03 Speaker 2: I don't think she likes women. No, I think she

48:08 Speaker 2: likes herself.

48:09 Speaker 3: I think she would be the girl who would join

48:12 Speaker 3: the show and be like, I'm a girl's girl.

48:14 Speaker 2: And h.

48:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, he told the famously last famous last words of

48:20 Speaker 1: every non Girls girl, of every girl that's ever been

48:24 Speaker 1: roasted on for being literally anti the women or girls

48:27 Speaker 1: around the show. She's on ah, like hello, like Angel

48:33 Speaker 1: Matthey Hello.

48:34 Speaker 3: That's the first thing she said is I'm a girl's girl.

48:37 Speaker 2: We were like one Potomacs. Sohow I told you?

48:46 Speaker 1: On my mind, I have literally not slept without thinking

48:52 Speaker 1: about this damn documentary and the women on that couch.

48:57 Speaker 1: Andy warning Giselle that she was gonna have to sit

49:01 Speaker 1: next to Windy, but Ashley thinking she was gonna catch

49:03 Speaker 1: jail from the other side of the couch.

49:06 Speaker 2: When she said, what am I going to hold her hand?

49:11 Speaker 2: She's like, do I gotta hold her hand? And He's like, no,

49:14 Speaker 2: you don't have to do anything other than what you feel.

49:16 Speaker 2: She was just like, I don't get a ship. I'm

49:19 Speaker 2: not going to jail.

49:22 Speaker 3: I need to care.

49:23 Speaker 1: I'm not Ashley as the scared one actually over here,

49:27 Speaker 1: like guys criminals, you find Ashley to be clocked in

49:34 Speaker 1: this reunion.

49:36 Speaker 2: Honestly, she she came in well rehearsed. I'll give that

49:39 Speaker 2: or give her that much. She does do that well.

49:42 Speaker 1: She's a good gaggle of gays somewhere. Her group trad

49:44 Speaker 1: is strong. They rehearse good line, she copy paste.

49:48 Speaker 2: She does a good job. Seven six.

49:54 Speaker 1: Listen, Okay, she hits blunt Ashley, I do the she

50:00 Speaker 1: just clocked in. It's her normal mean girl self. This season,

50:03 Speaker 1: I mean this season, but this reunion, like where is

50:07 Speaker 1: this has theaditi attitude coming from You did divorced one day.

50:11 Speaker 1: One day, all of a sudden, you better than everybody.

50:16 Speaker 1: One lady goes to jail and you like, oh, this

50:20 Speaker 1: is just I'm too pristine to be near you.

50:23 Speaker 3: Girl.

50:24 Speaker 2: I need these two ogs to realize they both second

50:27 Speaker 2: chair this season. That's very fair, jeez. Yeah, and you

50:34 Speaker 2: know Joselle was second. But also, to be fair, Jaseelle

50:37 Speaker 2: gave not only does Zelle give just like you know,

50:40 Speaker 2: normal hanging out. Yeah, she was the Greek chorus.

50:43 Speaker 1: She was just out here making us laugh, helping us

50:47 Speaker 1: narrate the exact and whatever. I do think I actually

50:51 Speaker 1: needed it a lot. I don't need Ashley, but I do.

50:55 Speaker 1: Y'all are not getting rid of my Gazelle yet.

50:57 Speaker 2: I'm sorry she's not. She's not.

50:59 Speaker 3: She's not, but she doesn't lack enough value yet.

51:02 Speaker 1: But she hasn't lost value to me even without I

51:05 Speaker 1: just think that she said.

51:06 Speaker 2: It to Andy. I missed Karen and that was kind

51:09 Speaker 2: of the thing. Is that she's.

51:11 Speaker 3: A tight of caliber that we I just start with,

51:14 Speaker 3: which is.

51:15 Speaker 2: Well, and you know what it's She can fight with Karen,

51:18 Speaker 2: but she can love on Karen too, she does. I

51:21 Speaker 2: think it's interesting that Karen.

51:23 Speaker 1: Has thought to so few people, and of all people,

51:25 Speaker 1: Gisella's been included and who she has talked to since

51:27 Speaker 1: she has been out and before she went in as

51:30 Speaker 1: because they've known each other for so long that this

51:32 Speaker 1: show and the bickering and whatnot doesn't quite compare to

51:36 Speaker 1: the fact that they were a mommy group, right, and

51:39 Speaker 1: they were always gonna fight over whose cookies won the

51:42 Speaker 1: cookie contest in season one, quite literally the funniest thing

51:46 Speaker 1: in the world.

51:47 Speaker 2: You know, you know cookies.

51:51 Speaker 4: Karen to make those cookies, she got them from the Wegmans.

51:54 Speaker 4: They got good cho with your cookies. She got them

52:00 Speaker 4: from the local bakery. Okay, she went and got them

52:02 Speaker 4: from a good place. And that's why Jazelle knew. She said,

52:05 Speaker 4: I too, have gone to that bakery.

52:06 Speaker 1: I got it.

52:07 Speaker 2: I got it from fishing company. Okay, all right.

52:12 Speaker 1: There were some things that also happened on this reunion

52:15 Speaker 1: that I just didn't get enough.

52:17 Speaker 2: Uh talking about the voices.

52:22 Speaker 1: Okay, let's see, both were abundant, which handle there were

52:28 Speaker 1: some different voices. Voices all around, voices abundant. Wendy, you know,

52:34 Speaker 1: got it, had a couple of voices she was trying

52:36 Speaker 1: on for size. I think she's using us for like

52:39 Speaker 1: her courtroom appearance, like tryals. We are the trial court

52:44 Speaker 1: room appearances. She's like seeing, how does this voice play

52:47 Speaker 1: in the public? Is it this one?

52:48 Speaker 2: Is it the baby place? A baby voice? I just

52:52 Speaker 2: couldn't the baby voice. Is that Pam's voice? Is that

52:56 Speaker 2: Pam's voice? I just couldn't meet. I couldn't meet. It's

53:00 Speaker 2: just so sad. And then the baby our marriage, Yes,

53:08 Speaker 2: it is correct. Will do that to a marriage?

53:13 Speaker 1: Criminality has been known to impact some some marriages, whether

53:18 Speaker 1: it's being parties are one.

53:22 Speaker 2: When you both go to prison and you will.

53:25 Speaker 1: The divorce attorney will basically be meeting both of you

53:29 Speaker 1: very soon. I'm sure it'll be a matter of who

53:32 Speaker 1: uses their one phone call in a day, during all

53:36 Speaker 1: times to call him.

53:37 Speaker 2: And my guess is Wendy Well, I mean she did?

53:41 Speaker 2: She she lied at three times? I could you lie

53:46 Speaker 2: so many times? Okay? Your count? What did you count?

53:49 Speaker 2: As pulls out lists. As a domestic for investigator who

53:57 Speaker 2: has had to go and you wonder why I asked

54:00 Speaker 2: you to come on here, I don't. As a domestic

54:04 Speaker 2: fraud investigator, there have been times, but a few times

54:08 Speaker 2: where I have had to have a criminal element arresting

54:12 Speaker 2: and then go down to the local jurisprudence and watch

54:17 Speaker 2: them get processed, and then we would have an interview

54:20 Speaker 2: before a judge where they would say guilty or not

54:24 Speaker 2: guilty or remand for trial. So when you go in there,

54:28 Speaker 2: the first thing they do is they put a little

54:31 Speaker 2: loose sight tray that is illuminated down on the ground.

54:34 Speaker 2: They put your they put your fingers on this white

54:38 Speaker 2: ink stuff and then the it's luminol basically, and they

54:42 Speaker 2: put your fingers on this board. They take the entire handstand,

54:47 Speaker 2: not just your fingerprints. So that's your first part of

54:51 Speaker 2: your booking. And then they take you down to get photographed.

54:54 Speaker 2: You get your both shots. Yes it's not it's just

54:59 Speaker 2: fine midnapping. Huh, it's not done a midnare No, No, honey,

55:06 Speaker 2: we'll get to the nap okay, Okay. Then secondly they

55:10 Speaker 2: take you down the hall for the second part of processing.

55:14 Speaker 2: That is where the strip search comes into play. And

55:18 Speaker 2: trust you me, they check you out everywhere. Everywhere. Every

55:23 Speaker 2: prisoner gets searched before they put you in a cell

55:26 Speaker 2: for a very specific reason that you might be carrying

55:29 Speaker 2: something that you might not need. Make sense, Okay. Then

55:33 Speaker 2: after that they take you to mugshot. You stand there.

55:37 Speaker 2: We left right forward the end. There's no Barberzon School

55:44 Speaker 2: of modeling where you smile. Oh, let's take another win

55:48 Speaker 2: just for fine.

55:49 Speaker 1: No, do you think the officer late at night is

55:51 Speaker 1: just having a kiki with Windy Oozepo.

55:54 Speaker 2: No, No, that cannot happen.

55:57 Speaker 3: Again.

55:57 Speaker 1: I want to remind people, and I'm gonna say it again,

56:00 Speaker 1: this is yeah, all police officers.

56:02 Speaker 2: Police whatever.

56:04 Speaker 1: It could be different, sure, but in the DNV two change,

56:06 Speaker 1: the rapper was arrested here for after.

56:10 Speaker 3: His show, and literally the cops got.

56:13 Speaker 1: In trouble because they took a selfie with him, but

56:16 Speaker 1: they didn't take it until after he was already booked

56:21 Speaker 1: and released, because like one, it's inappropriate to be doing that,

56:26 Speaker 1: sure of course, but also he didn't even get multiple tries.

56:31 Speaker 3: And you're gonna tell me, Wendy in the County of Carroll.

56:36 Speaker 2: White Wait, let's say White County of Carroll.

56:39 Speaker 1: Thank you, White County of Carroll, growing up here my

56:42 Speaker 1: whole life. Let me tell you where I'm not gone

56:44 Speaker 1: very many times. This is carl freaking County. That is

56:47 Speaker 1: just not my I'm not spending no time out there willingly,

56:52 Speaker 1: and most people are not. Let me tell you something

56:54 Speaker 1: I know one person that moved to Carroll County. My

56:56 Speaker 1: mom knew worked with somebody at where she wor, which

57:00 Speaker 1: is a federal agency, very big, very diverse, very science base.

57:04 Speaker 2: That's a little hinty hint shout out to her.

57:07 Speaker 1: She's retired now, but she had a coworker who straight

57:11 Speaker 1: up told her they were moving to said city in

57:14 Speaker 1: Carroll County because they liked living with everyone who looked

57:18 Speaker 1: like them.

57:20 Speaker 2: Oh to my black ass mama's face, I.

57:28 Speaker 3: Had no qualms.

57:29 Speaker 2: It was like real fine about it, you know what

57:31 Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's just like giving.

57:33 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. All the white people on your block.

57:35 Speaker 1: And nobody heard the burglary, Yeah, nobody else is ring

57:41 Speaker 1: camera caught it since obviously it's yours. Didn't catch the

57:44 Speaker 1: ghost that broke in.

57:47 Speaker 2: That's a Nancy dream mystery right there. Because that's my thing, Mark,

57:50 Speaker 2: why not just disconnect them? I thank you? Why not? Honestly,

57:57 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take you to a place that Jahn I

57:59 Speaker 2: never even new, like where I grew up. You don't

58:04 Speaker 2: know no what they can do it for you.

58:08 Speaker 1: I do. I'm not right now, but I could come

58:12 Speaker 1: and be like, hey, listen, I got caught up into

58:15 Speaker 1: some stuff. I really need you to come take these

58:17 Speaker 1: things out of the house for what.

58:22 Speaker 2: The home.

58:23 Speaker 1: Look, we don't want to You don't have a couple

58:25 Speaker 1: of stoley, you don't have a couple of friends like that.

58:29 Speaker 2: Like mommy, what you need.

58:31 Speaker 1: Overy like a little smashing grab what you want? And

58:35 Speaker 1: you want to say robbery said that, And how long

58:37 Speaker 1: do you want us to hold the step? Thirty days, sixty, a.

58:40 Speaker 2: Couple of months. That's gonna cost you a couple of duncats.

58:43 Speaker 2: But you know exactly exactly.

58:45 Speaker 1: But so they would definitely and I'd be like, oh,

58:48 Speaker 1: enough to get me four hundred thousand. We're they'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

58:53 Speaker 2: That's too hot. That's gonna start an investigation.

58:55 Speaker 1: We were thinking more like five to ten cat like

58:57 Speaker 1: a ring or three you know what, your four didn't think.

59:01 Speaker 2: Nobody was going to look into that. Well, like I

59:04 Speaker 2: said when we spoke about this months ago, there is

59:08 Speaker 2: what's called the FDSN Federal National Database, and when insurance

59:14 Speaker 2: claims like this are set up there, there are typically

59:19 Speaker 2: chains of events and what happens is that if an

59:24 Speaker 2: insurance company comes up with a social security number because

59:28 Speaker 2: Eddie and Wendy have to give their social security numbers

59:30 Speaker 2: for the claim. So their social security numbers would have

59:33 Speaker 2: had to have pained on more than one insurance claim

59:38 Speaker 2: for that to even sound it an alarm bell, and

59:41 Speaker 2: so the fact that there was one, so there was one,

59:43 Speaker 2: two three claims. Those three claims set off an alarm bell,

59:47 Speaker 2: which triggered the insurance company to start an investigation, which

59:51 Speaker 2: is how this all came to light. Listen, we are

59:58 Speaker 2: getting the real te and that's the things that I

1:00:01 Speaker 2: was wondering, like how I knew it was gonna get

1:00:03 Speaker 2: caught somehow, and I saw the amount that was in

1:00:05 Speaker 2: that email, it was like, oh, it doesn't necessarily shock

1:00:09 Speaker 2: me that this now, but then what all? And then

1:00:14 Speaker 2: what that has to happen is that then the insurance

1:00:17 Speaker 2: company gets with the district attorney, and the district attorney

1:00:21 Speaker 2: decides whether or not it's going to become a federal

1:00:23 Speaker 2: crime or it's going to be a localized crime. And

1:00:26 Speaker 2: you know, this district attorney was like, thank god, Caro

1:00:29 Speaker 2: Caroll County can get popular. So they took it.

1:00:32 Speaker 1: On funny apparently Maryland's thing is three hundred dollars. They'll

1:00:37 Speaker 1: go after anything about three hundred dollars. I think, Oh,

1:00:39 Speaker 1: Wendy and Eddie, y'all didn't know, You're okay, your lawyers

1:00:44 Speaker 1: being beyond that, you didn't think to least Wikipedia or Google?

1:00:49 Speaker 2: What are the pere will I go to jail for?

1:00:53 Speaker 1: And you're asking, well, money, That wouldn't be a smart

1:00:55 Speaker 1: criminal thing to google. Neither would be email or what

1:00:58 Speaker 1: else should I add to the list? So we're already

1:01:00 Speaker 1: making poor toyses online. Let's maybe look up. Oh shit,

1:01:05 Speaker 1: we live in a state where they prosecute after three

1:01:07 Speaker 1: hundred dollars as a pelony. Yep, and I'm claiming four

1:01:12 Speaker 1: hundred thousand of them things.

1:01:15 Speaker 2: Look, I took the train down to the DMV once

1:01:17 Speaker 2: for forty thousand dollars, okay, And this pea and these

1:01:21 Speaker 2: people were romanded without bail for the term of the

1:01:26 Speaker 2: plea agreement that they finally came to, and that was

1:01:29 Speaker 2: forty days later.

1:01:31 Speaker 1: Listen, Giselle told you in the recent walkout that she

1:01:34 Speaker 1: got caught on TMZ take that plea deal, girl, So

1:01:37 Speaker 1: y'all on her camp, she should have taken that plea deal.

1:01:42 Speaker 1: Aaron was like, they wanted to give me a plea

1:01:43 Speaker 1: and I was silly. And that's the only honest thing

1:01:46 Speaker 1: she said that don't sit.

1:01:47 Speaker 2: Down, So I didn't. That was the moy that was.

1:01:54 Speaker 1: I mean, they recombined their cases, so we'll get well,

1:01:59 Speaker 1: why do you think they did that?

1:02:01 Speaker 2: Oh, I know exactly why they did that, because what

1:02:04 Speaker 2: if they had split the difference once they had gone

1:02:07 Speaker 2: to originally, which if they had split the difference and

1:02:11 Speaker 2: go on the court individually, what would have happened was

1:02:14 Speaker 2: is that Eddie would have had to retain a different

1:02:16 Speaker 2: attorney or Wendy would have had to retain a different attorney,

1:02:19 Speaker 2: and at that point they would have had to have

1:02:23 Speaker 2: become adversaries against each other because the name of the

1:02:26 Speaker 2: game is to not go to prison, and someone will

1:02:29 Speaker 2: have to go to prison.

1:02:30 Speaker 1: Oh no, someone's going to prison, and then you're both

1:02:33 Speaker 1: going to prison.

1:02:34 Speaker 2: Well well, but what they're hoping is is that if

1:02:37 Speaker 2: they go in together, that one will go before the

1:02:41 Speaker 2: other and that one will stay home with the kids.

1:02:43 Speaker 1: And then in Joe situation, so we soon Joe trade off.

1:02:49 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not going to you know, be the one.

1:02:53 Speaker 1: I think where and I know some people are concerned about,

1:02:57 Speaker 1: of course also any kind of deportation and things because

1:03:01 Speaker 1: they are Nigerian. We don't I don't know their specific immigrations.

1:03:06 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know the status.

1:03:08 Speaker 1: That Maryland, thankfully is a much better state at keeping

1:03:15 Speaker 1: families together and people in this state that they live

1:03:20 Speaker 1: and have residents than others. I think even in this situation,

1:03:25 Speaker 1: they might still just be going to the prison in Rockville,

1:03:30 Speaker 1: the jail jail, and then they'll be let out after

1:03:33 Speaker 1: some No.

1:03:35 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I don't know if Rockville will take them just

1:03:39 Speaker 2: because because it will be Jessup. Yeah, yeah, j that's

1:03:47 Speaker 2: what criminals know. Well, it's where House of Bars was,

1:03:53 Speaker 2: not exactly where it is, you know America.

1:04:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to and my mama will take you

1:04:06 Speaker 1: get me in college. She was like, you need a

1:04:08 Speaker 1: lot of ship and I just got it. We would

1:04:10 Speaker 1: pass the jail. I knew where it was.

1:04:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Baltimore County. How y'all doing well? More than

1:04:18 Speaker 2: likely that is where they'll do their time. As in Jessup,

1:04:21 Speaker 2: it is criminals, w yeah, well that is that is

1:04:25 Speaker 2: that is Unfortunately, their crime is a half million dollars

1:04:29 Speaker 2: they don't get. They don't get a club, they don't

1:04:32 Speaker 2: get a club fed for that they're going to do

1:04:35 Speaker 2: they're gonna do. She'll go to the women's half, he'll

1:04:38 Speaker 2: go to the men's heath, and they'll just that'll be it.

1:04:42 Speaker 2: But that's how much they're going to get. That's gonna

1:04:46 Speaker 2: be the that's going to be the trick, and that's.

1:04:48 Speaker 1: Gonna be My prediction is that at least for Windy,

1:04:53 Speaker 1: she'll get a sentence of seven and do four, like

1:04:57 Speaker 1: actually do four, and hopefully she can have a Jinshaw

1:05:03 Speaker 1: situation where that four becomes like three and eight months

1:05:08 Speaker 1: or three and two months or something where you know,

1:05:11 Speaker 1: more than two years, but like less than seven, so

1:05:16 Speaker 1: that she can get back to her kids. But then

1:05:17 Speaker 1: also so Eddie can do his time, because I think

1:05:20 Speaker 1: that then him going, he can go in right on

1:05:23 Speaker 1: after and he'll do more time.

1:05:25 Speaker 2: I fear. I honestly, I see ten to fourteen.

1:05:29 Speaker 1: I saw ten two. I feel ten in my bones.

1:05:32 Speaker 1: I feel ten real bad.

1:05:34 Speaker 2: Just because it's the conspiracy, the mad things.

1:05:38 Speaker 1: To this list, it's the why are you even still

1:05:41 Speaker 1: allegedly the girls in threads are even saying that the

1:05:44 Speaker 1: ring in this sit down is one of the rings

1:05:48 Speaker 1: on the list. I mean, so even if it's not,

1:05:55 Speaker 1: why would you be wearing them? My thing is I'd

1:05:58 Speaker 1: be like Karen, I would be in one of them

1:06:00 Speaker 1: dresses that Stacey with Hawking on QVC. You're like, it's

1:06:03 Speaker 1: given Christmas holiday party.

1:06:05 Speaker 2: It's not. It's giving.

1:06:06 Speaker 1: I just got out of prison or the jailhouse, and

1:06:09 Speaker 1: I want people to think that I'm innocent.

1:06:11 Speaker 3: So there's something and mindful, not a seven carre ring.

1:06:17 Speaker 2: Well, I will say her third lie that she told me,

1:06:20 Speaker 2: and we'll move past it because we are. We are

1:06:22 Speaker 2: going way over.

1:06:24 Speaker 1: Hey, no, God, listen, these girls, they really the egos

1:06:27 Speaker 1: this week have really come out.

1:06:29 Speaker 2: But her third lie was the napping. You know that

1:06:35 Speaker 2: she wasn't napping. She wasn't napping. There's there is a toy,

1:06:39 Speaker 2: there is a toilet to use in the cells, in

1:06:43 Speaker 2: the cells, but I just held it. Hell on, girl,

1:06:49 Speaker 2: I don't know. No, you didn't.

1:06:52 Speaker 1: You squatted and that's fine, and no one's gonna think

1:06:55 Speaker 1: less of you. We think less of you for doing this,

1:06:57 Speaker 1: not for squatting over a toilet and needing to go

1:06:59 Speaker 1: to the back room.

1:07:01 Speaker 2: That is the thing that's normal. But yeah, this is

1:07:04 Speaker 2: talking about the wag shift and the smile. I was

1:07:07 Speaker 2: just like, that's three lives too many for me to believe.

1:07:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, the way shift and the smile. Also, I know

1:07:12 Speaker 1: for I don't know for a.

1:07:13 Speaker 3: Fact, Allegedly they were high.

1:07:17 Speaker 1: They don't want to admit it because it would look worse,

1:07:21 Speaker 1: which I understand. But the alternative that you suggested, as

1:07:26 Speaker 1: you were taking a nap and Eddie calls you and says,

1:07:29 Speaker 1: come on downstairs, you're going So I was sleep and

1:07:32 Speaker 1: that's why I look like that you ain't wake the

1:07:34 Speaker 1: fuck up from the time you got in the cop

1:07:36 Speaker 1: card to the time you got to the station.

1:07:38 Speaker 3: Disbelieve, don't believe that at all.

1:07:41 Speaker 2: So you were you were quite awake because there was

1:07:44 Speaker 2: a lot you had to do before you got to.

1:07:46 Speaker 1: That cell, okay, and before you got even to that picture.

1:07:49 Speaker 1: So I don't want to hear it, but I know

1:07:51 Speaker 1: that that high would have lasted that whole time. It's

1:07:53 Speaker 1: out of your control. That's also why you would smile.

1:07:57 Speaker 1: That's how that indica works, babes. I'm on it right now.

1:08:00 Speaker 3: That's literally how it goes.

1:08:01 Speaker 1: Worst case scenario being booked in jail and I'm still

1:08:04 Speaker 1: a happy camper, So that's why you took it. Happy

1:08:08 Speaker 1: Eddy Listen, that's just gonna keep going. And my final

1:08:13 Speaker 1: ask for you do how do you feel about people

1:08:15 Speaker 1: thinking that Kierna should be replaced by Jazzy, like we

1:08:19 Speaker 1: should just swap them out because at least with what

1:08:23 Speaker 1: we see coming up in this third part, but also

1:08:26 Speaker 1: with what Kierna is giving these parts, this first or

1:08:28 Speaker 1: the second part, and what Kiarena's given in this first part.

1:08:31 Speaker 1: Klarna's giving Debbie Downer real bad like they're not. She

1:08:35 Speaker 1: thinks they're lighting fue We don't.

1:08:37 Speaker 2: So people think that the energy should have gone to

1:08:42 Speaker 2: Miss Jazz and not who had at least something, you know,

1:08:46 Speaker 2: something to give, and not whatever Kiarena got going on.

1:08:50 Speaker 2: Let's be honest. I don't understand how Jazzy was in

1:08:53 Speaker 2: full time last season because because of what she gave

1:08:58 Speaker 2: the season before getting you know, getting woke woke up

1:09:02 Speaker 2: with that club. Okay, I'm just saying she should have.

1:09:09 Speaker 1: I mean, she should have gotten it in the fact

1:09:10 Speaker 1: that she had a wedding, y'all, are not the fact

1:09:12 Speaker 1: that she is a wag. That's a better get than

1:09:17 Speaker 1: what Ashley is single. Stacey was going through a fake ass.

1:09:20 Speaker 1: The voice Wendy is the only one who was married.

1:09:24 Speaker 1: Like watching them being the reason why we filmed that

1:09:27 Speaker 1: wedding was not enough to me.

1:09:29 Speaker 3: The fact that she was having a lavish wedding for

1:09:31 Speaker 3: a man to play on the bench.

1:09:32 Speaker 1: That's what's something we should have been talking about him.

1:09:36 Speaker 2: Like, what where did they get the money?

1:09:37 Speaker 3: I want to know.

1:09:38 Speaker 1: I want to see the behind the scenes. We should

1:09:40 Speaker 1: have gotten more of that. I'm scared of where that

1:09:44 Speaker 1: money came from. Technically, I'm always scared of where all

1:09:49 Speaker 1: these bitches money is coming from. Now, I'm concerned because

1:09:53 Speaker 1: we got a lot of jail happening almost. We have

1:09:59 Speaker 1: a lot of jail almost because even on the West Coast,

1:10:01 Speaker 1: you got Erica.

1:10:02 Speaker 2: Well she won't, she did, she didn't. I don't think.

1:10:06 Speaker 2: I think, I don't think that civil suit is going

1:10:10 Speaker 2: to go the plaintiff's way. I think the designer was

1:10:14 Speaker 2: just as shady as she was.

1:10:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you got to know what you're working with

1:10:19 Speaker 1: when you get into that housewife, you know business. But like,

1:10:24 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just curious, really, why why all

1:10:26 Speaker 1: doing this? You know, I know the fans are demanding it,

1:10:29 Speaker 1: or is that what Tyra and Wendy and all these

1:10:32 Speaker 1: girls tell themselves to like?

1:10:33 Speaker 2: To be honest, I mean, I wouldn't cover their own impulses. Look,

1:10:37 Speaker 2: I would not be mad if Jazzy was to come

1:10:40 Speaker 2: on full time and we was not k down to

1:10:42 Speaker 2: you know, a side a sidekick's find of and we

1:10:45 Speaker 2: just get rid of Angel together. Yes, hot, but.

1:10:51 Speaker 1: I know I know him, can't we just? I don't

1:10:56 Speaker 1: think so, because he really does love his wife. It's

1:10:58 Speaker 1: part of what makes him hot.

1:10:59 Speaker 2: But I love his wife very much. Angel got the

1:11:05 Speaker 2: worst situation ever. She came in and Giselle said, easy

1:11:11 Speaker 2: picking right there.

1:11:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she got she had. She had a really

1:11:15 Speaker 1: tough season. She also didn't do herself many favors by,

1:11:18 Speaker 1: you know, wanting to get to know the girls, but

1:11:20 Speaker 1: then going straight back into loyalty mode because I know

1:11:23 Speaker 1: that's what she probably told Clarina that she was gonna

1:11:25 Speaker 1: do when she got on the show, and wanted to

1:11:27 Speaker 1: honor that, but also wanted to make a name for herself.

1:11:29 Speaker 2: And I think she deserves that chance.

1:11:31 Speaker 1: So we could give her a second season and get

1:11:33 Speaker 1: rid of Clara all together and see how that works,

1:11:34 Speaker 1: and then then we'll get rid of Angel that well.

1:11:37 Speaker 2: I just I always say a housewife should get three seasons,

1:11:41 Speaker 2: no matter what. The first season is to get your

1:11:43 Speaker 2: feet wet, and the second season is to be able

1:11:46 Speaker 2: to af forge your glam and start playing the game.

1:11:49 Speaker 2: And the third season is if you can swim, you're

1:11:52 Speaker 2: gonna swim. If you're gonna sink, you're gonna sink, and

1:11:55 Speaker 2: if you sink, you're out. Still. Oh oh, I'm so

1:12:00 Speaker 2: proud of her.

1:12:03 Speaker 1: What did you think of Andy warning her about her

1:12:06 Speaker 1: second season to be mindful of her, Yeah, saying that's.

1:12:12 Speaker 2: What he's saying to me. That's exactly what he said.

1:12:15 Speaker 2: That's exactly what you said. He said.

1:12:18 Speaker 1: Listen, I've seen this before literally right around now. Okay,

1:12:22 Speaker 1: that show on that West Coast where the girl got

1:12:25 Speaker 1: the same thing and Rihanna was like, that's the bitch

1:12:27 Speaker 1: that I love.

1:12:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't do that's going to go to that. Don't

1:12:31 Speaker 2: do it. Don't do that. As long as Stacey lives

1:12:35 Speaker 2: in her delusion and is unbothered by anything, I'm okay

1:12:40 Speaker 2: with it. Lie to me, Stacy, I don't Yeah, these

1:12:43 Speaker 2: are fine lies. When he's gonna do it. Why can't

1:12:45 Speaker 2: Stacy now that at least, but at least, Stacy, I

1:12:51 Speaker 2: know what I'm walking into. Yeah, bad bad breath.

1:12:55 Speaker 1: And a lie, Yeah, and a lie like I really

1:12:59 Speaker 1: a misrepresentation of a timeline and the fact and the

1:13:02 Speaker 1: details that surround the events.

1:13:05 Speaker 2: But with Wendy, it's a different situation because there's a

1:13:09 Speaker 2: lot of mouth seasons and a lot of intention because

1:13:16 Speaker 2: she's coming at it with with with her first season

1:13:20 Speaker 2: and I remember season five so well because it was COVID.

1:13:24 Speaker 3: And oh yeah, I remember her first season and her second.

1:13:27 Speaker 2: I just I just remember how she carried herself with

1:13:30 Speaker 2: a sense of superiority over the other women. And did

1:13:34 Speaker 2: you think and if she thought that was going to

1:13:36 Speaker 2: endear her to us the audience, if not only her cancer,

1:13:41 Speaker 2: But she miscalculated because I didn't start liking Wendy until

1:13:46 Speaker 2: after Robin was gone, and I really didn't want Robin

1:13:48 Speaker 2: going in the first place. So if I got the people.

1:13:51 Speaker 1: Didn't start liking Wendy until this season, and that sucks.

1:13:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because this is how you're going out, because

1:13:59 Speaker 2: this is the criminality of it all, baby, and the

1:14:02 Speaker 2: criminality of it all, and then we saw the house

1:14:05 Speaker 2: getting remodeled. I was like, oh, so that's where all

1:14:07 Speaker 2: that money was going.

1:14:08 Speaker 1: To marble Florida ceiling. I mean, we've seen over the

1:14:11 Speaker 1: years where that money is going to. I mean, she's

1:14:13 Speaker 1: stay in the doctor's office. She looks great, but she

1:14:15 Speaker 1: stay in there. This weave for the reunion is brand

1:14:18 Speaker 1: new even and of itself. It's but where and with

1:14:21 Speaker 1: what money you need to be paying them?

1:14:23 Speaker 2: Lawyers? Why are things you know? Like, it's just really weird.

1:14:28 Speaker 1: It's weird old behavior to put marble in your kitchen.

1:14:32 Speaker 1: Sixty cards, I just want people to credit cards with.

1:14:37 Speaker 2: Different social Security numbers Allegedly, Come on, now, that's too many,

1:14:43 Speaker 2: that's overdue, that's over I have three. One is for

1:14:47 Speaker 2: my house, one is for groceries, and one is an emergency.

1:14:52 Speaker 1: And how you even get that many? How do you

1:14:54 Speaker 1: even get a proof of? What in the hell also

1:14:56 Speaker 1: that you can be on this show? This show is

1:14:59 Speaker 1: the please get it together.

1:15:02 Speaker 2: Allegedly, different social security numbers can slip by companies that

1:15:07 Speaker 2: don't know no better.

1:15:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding, I'm mean listen. I can't wait for

1:15:13 Speaker 1: part two. And because Andy, let us know, though we

1:15:15 Speaker 1: started with it. We are not done with it. We

1:15:18 Speaker 1: will be back to talking to Wendy and more. I'm

1:15:21 Speaker 1: curious about Eddie coming out.

1:15:25 Speaker 2: Saw there, I saw him.

1:15:28 Speaker 1: He's there, but like I'm curious.

1:15:32 Speaker 2: I was there. I was like, what does he got

1:15:34 Speaker 2: to offer the situation?

1:15:36 Speaker 1: Well, he's talked on other seasons where he had limited

1:15:40 Speaker 1: to offer. Now of the time, I'd like to hear

1:15:42 Speaker 1: him speak.

1:15:42 Speaker 2: The hell up.

1:15:43 Speaker 1: But I guess you know, she can't say too much

1:15:46 Speaker 1: about whatever their defense is because I think they haven't

1:15:48 Speaker 1: figured it out yet.

1:15:49 Speaker 2: And that's why she answered Andy's questions. So they got too.

1:15:54 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get it together.

1:15:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know I'll be here before, you know, against

1:15:57 Speaker 3: around my birthday and for my.

1:15:58 Speaker 2: Birthday going, I'll be there. I'm gonna be there. I'm

1:16:04 Speaker 2: so excited for you. Thank you. I'm gonna talk to

1:16:08 Speaker 2: you about it. Girl is our girl gonna be there too?

1:16:11 Speaker 2: I think so, Terria, don't go.

1:16:13 Speaker 1: Not gonna miss the courtroom now, honey, you know the

1:16:15 Speaker 1: schedule real good. She's gonna show me where to sit

1:16:18 Speaker 1: and where to go with a good snacks are okay?

1:16:22 Speaker 2: Like a usher, Terias. Wendy turned around and set it

1:16:25 Speaker 2: on Terria looked her up and down.

1:16:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, she in there.

1:16:29 Speaker 1: She is the since she made about it, we need

1:16:32 Speaker 1: to know what's going on.

1:16:34 Speaker 2: I want to know.

1:16:36 Speaker 1: I can't wait for Karen to come out and talk

1:16:37 Speaker 1: about her criminality and gaslight about it. She's gonna be

1:16:43 Speaker 1: like I got a special go watch that into which

1:16:47 Speaker 1: y'all say, you know what, welcome back, Karen.

1:16:50 Speaker 2: I'm ready for her to sit on the couch and

1:16:52 Speaker 2: meet us with.

1:16:53 Speaker 1: The same delusion and what the hell as we have

1:16:58 Speaker 1: not seen in over a year. And I like her

1:17:01 Speaker 1: and just then would go back at it back and

1:17:03 Speaker 1: forth again. And I can't wait for her to address Wendy.

1:17:08 Speaker 1: Wendy and her in a bad place that could be.

1:17:10 Speaker 2: Good for follows. Let me tell you criminal and criminal crime.

1:17:15 Speaker 2: I love to see it. I wonder if Karen was

1:17:19 Speaker 2: a prison mother in there. I mean, she said she

1:17:22 Speaker 2: took care of those girls. You know, she looked she

1:17:25 Speaker 2: really looked out for them.

1:17:26 Speaker 1: I liked that her and Wendy boat treat jail like

1:17:29 Speaker 1: Teresa think of it as camp.

1:17:31 Speaker 3: Karen thought of it as like a mental health retreat

1:17:33 Speaker 3: that like she.

1:17:34 Speaker 2: Needed to go to and then was like it took

1:17:36 Speaker 2: me sixty four years to get get caught and get here.

1:17:39 Speaker 2: Why are you here so early? That's not the flex.

1:17:41 Speaker 3: Of the question you think it is.

1:17:43 Speaker 1: And then Wendy is acting like it was an excursion

1:17:46 Speaker 1: or an experience at like in Mexico, like in the

1:17:50 Speaker 1: capes and like did you know that they had like

1:17:53 Speaker 1: chimpanzees in the trees? I didn't know that about the

1:17:59 Speaker 1: wilderness at first. It was so interesting. Also, both you

1:18:04 Speaker 1: and your husband are attorneys. I really find most of

1:18:06 Speaker 1: this weird that you're acting like this. Then what did

1:18:09 Speaker 1: you do with those four degrees? You're really bad at this.

1:18:12 Speaker 1: Both of this is this is.

1:18:13 Speaker 2: Why, this is what the price of wanting to be

1:18:18 Speaker 2: famous looks like.

1:18:19 Speaker 1: This is what you have to hate it though, Why

1:18:21 Speaker 1: didn't you go back to using the reed stylist?

1:18:23 Speaker 2: And that she was not rent the runway and everything

1:18:25 Speaker 2: in between?

1:18:26 Speaker 1: We can't afford them shoes and she nobody's throwing her

1:18:29 Speaker 1: in jail.

1:18:30 Speaker 2: Well you saw, well you saw Duried's closet in this

1:18:33 Speaker 2: past episode. It's just closed on a rack in the

1:18:35 Speaker 2: room in the corner where she's at the bottom.

1:18:38 Speaker 3: I know, because y'all know.

1:18:39 Speaker 1: I also used to say something very different when she

1:18:41 Speaker 1: had that new house before her before herk broke up

1:18:44 Speaker 1: some years ago.

1:18:47 Speaker 2: Last season, she was boxes.

1:18:50 Speaker 1: I had a relator come on from Beverly Hills to

1:18:52 Speaker 1: be like, no, that was brought in a trust.

1:18:54 Speaker 2: I said, that's what people do.

1:18:56 Speaker 1: She was, yes, baby, they buy those houses and them trusts, okay,

1:19:01 Speaker 1: so that they don't own it.

1:19:02 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh man.

1:19:04 Speaker 1: So anyways, y'all that has been. This has been a

1:19:09 Speaker 1: week from like, I don't know what y'all are not

1:19:12 Speaker 1: what else people are talking about at work because everywhere

1:19:14 Speaker 1: I go, I'm talking about this because this is transcended

1:19:18 Speaker 1: most things. Shout out to Bravo for producing a fantastic

1:19:21 Speaker 1: show called The House of the Potomac because their reunions

1:19:24 Speaker 1: always make me so happy. I think their remions are glorious.

1:19:28 Speaker 1: And shout out to Netflix for wedding my whistle? Was

1:19:32 Speaker 1: this the best documentary to get all the tea?

1:19:35 Speaker 2: No, I give it a A.

1:19:37 Speaker 3: And I give it an eight out of ten?

1:19:39 Speaker 2: What do you give it even seven?

1:19:43 Speaker 1: Okay, he gives it a seven out of ten, But

1:19:46 Speaker 1: it did wet my whistle. Now I'm hungry for more,

1:19:48 Speaker 1: so when I don't have to go on time.

1:19:50 Speaker 2: Thank you. I will be set for that E special.

1:19:54 Speaker 1: I don't know when it comes out, but when I

1:19:56 Speaker 1: do find that all, I'm gonna let you know.

1:19:59 Speaker 2: I will be texting you every five minutes. I'm listen.

1:20:03 Speaker 2: I can't wait. It's gonna be so good.

1:20:06 Speaker 1: I also know the Sibilizing Marmal Wires trailer and premiere

1:20:10 Speaker 1: date was announced and it is coming out in March

1:20:14 Speaker 1: twenty four, I believe or no March something March twenty

1:20:19 Speaker 1: fourth of Montana's twentieth anaby Yes Now, Smiley Surrus, I.

1:20:24 Speaker 2: Love that girl. Mark.

1:20:26 Speaker 1: Where can people find you listen to you get to

1:20:28 Speaker 1: the good stuff if they don't know already.

1:20:31 Speaker 2: I'm obviously over at the Pink Pop Box over on Instagram.

1:20:35 Speaker 2: I'm on Twitter, but I don't play there. And you

1:20:38 Speaker 2: can listen to our our our archive podcast here on

1:20:43 Speaker 2: on spot anywhere you get your podcasts, and we go

1:20:46 Speaker 2: live every Monday night on Instagram to drag the Beverly

1:20:49 Speaker 2: Hills ladies.

1:20:51 Speaker 1: Gotch good, Burt, thank you for doing that, because absolutely

1:20:54 Speaker 1: the hell necessary. Please know that when we do our

1:20:57 Speaker 1: week ap like next week and we'll be Beverly Hill.

1:21:01 Speaker 2: It's time to read a lot of ladies for Phil.

1:21:04 Speaker 1: I'm actually loving doing I like hate watching it right now,

1:21:08 Speaker 1: so I can't wait.

1:21:12 Speaker 2: Everybody's telling me that I think Kendricks hate watching it.

1:21:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm having a really good time being like what

1:21:19 Speaker 1: like my face is spurned the whole time.

1:21:21 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think a couple of the others are

1:21:26 Speaker 2: watching hate watching. I don't know have Kendrick's even dealing.

1:21:28 Speaker 1: With it, but I don't think he can. I don't

1:21:30 Speaker 1: think he can right now. But I actually don't hate it.

1:21:33 Speaker 1: I hate watch. It's like a hate watch that I'm enjoying.

1:21:36 Speaker 1: It's doing good for me. They're doing poorly.

1:21:40 Speaker 2: I'm doing great. Listen, y'all.

1:21:42 Speaker 3: That is Kendrick would say, that's been Mark.

1:21:45 Speaker 2: I've been money.

1:21:46 Speaker 1: You can find me on all the things at Mixing

1:21:48 Speaker 1: with Money and my X I G W I T

1:21:51 Speaker 1: H M A N I. And as always, take care

1:21:54 Speaker 1: of yourselves and you know, watch some good TV. Go

1:21:57 Speaker 1: watch that documentary even if you do we spoiled it,

1:22:00 Speaker 1: we did it.

1:22:01 Speaker 2: Go do it.

1:22:02 Speaker 3: It's so good. And then you know, do.

1:22:05 Speaker 2: Your thing, protect your magic. Guys, take care of yourselves.

1:22:08 Speaker 2: Bye bye,