Holiday Holla w/ Taria Faison (@weigopodcast)

0:12 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful wonderful mixologists.

0:27 Speaker 2: Happy holidays.

0:28 Speaker 3: It is your girl Moni and you are listening to the Mix with Mani and the Holiday Hollow with Terria Fason from What Else Is going On?

0:39 Speaker 2: Podcast? We go, Oh my god, this.

0:42 Speaker 3: Is our first time connecting all year, and y'all, I don't even know what to do. I'm so excited. I don't even know what to do. We're about to have a time. Hi, Terria, how are.

0:51 Speaker 4: You happy holiday?

0:55 Speaker 2: Happy holidays?

0:57 Speaker 4: May the Mary bells keeping listen.

1:00 Speaker 2: I'm in that spirit. I am happy holidays.

1:04 Speaker 5: Y'all are listening. Y'all are going to be listening to us low key catch up. Also, so let's be clear, Many and I are friends in real life. In case y'all don't know, because we have let almost twelve months go by and we've talked on social media but not through texts, and we have resolved that that will never have been.

1:24 Speaker 4: I mean, I was there.

1:26 Speaker 5: I was in attendance when she married her beautiful wife. I will be a building to really have been to her mama house more than once.

1:36 Speaker 4: My daughter has been to her mama's house. So you're looking good. I love your.

1:43 Speaker 3: Hair thank you, thank you, shaved it all off, had to start a new and I don't think I'll ever go back.

1:49 Speaker 2: So there's that. Really, No, I don't.

1:53 Speaker 3: I thought I tried this past fall, in like late summer. I started growing it out, thinking that I was going to, like, you know, just like grow it healthy, grow it beautiful and the thing and have a Nope, shave that thing right on off. I like the little maintenance, do nothing, look and ask you thank you. And when the Lord blesses you with a head that doesn't look ridiculous.

2:15 Speaker 2: When you shave your hair off, you just go with it.

2:18 Speaker 4: Go with God was disrespectful to put hair on it?

2:21 Speaker 2: Respectful because why tell the Lord knowed the blessings?

2:25 Speaker 3: That doesn't it doesn't make sense. I look great with the bald head, so she will just be a ball. It is scally wag forever endev. I'm excited for it. I'm excited for great time.

2:42 Speaker 2: It has.

2:42 Speaker 3: I needed something, you know, to separate and give me a little character. So that's it, you know, that's really what it is. I needed something to grow me up. Terrea, we need to get straight into the point. What in the hell has happened to the grandame of Putomac.

2:59 Speaker 4: Okay, answer me this, because what is happening?

3:02 Speaker 5: This is.

3:05 Speaker 3: I'm actually like really distressed about this. I think about this way too much. You would think I knew this woman. You would think she was literally my actual auntie ever since she's like everyone's auntie. But like, I cared so much about this, I'm so what is going on? I love Mamma Aunty Carrien.

3:25 Speaker 5: It has reached the generations below us because I came upstairs the day it happened and Big Corey and Sky were here. Little Corey was somewhere, and I said, you've seen my house before. So I walked in, walked up the steps to the living room and said, y'all, my aunt was arrested.

3:42 Speaker 4: And Sky goes once and I said, my.

3:46 Speaker 5: Auntie Karen from Potomac, and she was like oh. She sent me a text message the next day with the video of her in the car and said, did your auntie?

3:58 Speaker 3: Do you know how many people have been saying to me and counting me like, Hey, isn't it your girl? Isn't that show you watched? Oh my god, somebody give Mama Karen. I'm like, isn't it funny that we're inside. We're on the inside. So when people send us stuff, it's like boo, I was there when it happened. Almost pretty good. Say you don't need to remind me, Thank you for thinking about this for like nine months, like I'm aware.

4:24 Speaker 5: Answer me this though, And I couldn't tell in the video, but shout out to I don't know if you know my girl fly chi. She did a ti Yeah, okay, so she did a TikTok and was like she was stressed because she didn't know what Karen was gonna do in jail, because she doesn't think Karen can get corn rolls. Because she didn't have any edges. Because when the wig slid back, you could see it. That was her head. That wasn't I thought she had a low haircut like yours, not a low haircut like yours. I thought, I'm sorry, I thought her edge.

4:55 Speaker 5: I thought it was just pulled back in a pony you know how you could pull it back on a ponytail or a wig on.

5:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was her.

5:02 Speaker 4: That was her head. Yes, I need to go back and watch the video, I promise you.

5:06 Speaker 2: I thought, yes, and it's not good. It was not. It was very unbecoming.

5:12 Speaker 3: When she was licking. That's not what is going on. I was like, you gotta be fucked up. If you really like kring, you know you were fucked up.

5:22 Speaker 4: And I don't believe the story.

5:24 Speaker 5: I don't believe the story about what she told in the beginning about how she had dinner with a friend.

5:28 Speaker 4: I believe she was with a man.

5:30 Speaker 3: I really, I think, of course she was with a man. But I'm like, that's the least of your problems of being right. Yeah, you're going to jail behind her.

5:40 Speaker 4: Do you think that she's gonna go Do you think?

5:43 Speaker 3: I absolutely do think she will do time. Okay, I don't think it'll be much. Here's why. I don't think they'll try to necessarily make an example out of her, although I could see them wanting to. I think people view that video footage and they will consider that in a sentencing. The way she spoke to the pops that she did, you know, defied authority, the way that she refused sobriety test, the way she was kind of rude about it, the way she was very oh yeah, she decided and wouldn't even talk to them.

6:11 Speaker 2: She would not even talk to them. Call one man white and poor.

6:14 Speaker 3: And even if even if that's true, first of all, we don't know the facts.

6:19 Speaker 2: We don't know the facts.

6:21 Speaker 3: And secondly, even if it's true, this is not the time.

6:24 Speaker 5: This is not the time, not the time to try to pull the race card and then talk about you.

6:29 Speaker 4: Was Thomas Jefferson's concubine. Ma'am.

6:31 Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. When I see a siren get close.

6:34 Speaker 3: To me, the way my entire put like I went to charm school all of a sudden like hello Mary Christian, Happy Holidays.

6:45 Speaker 2: Was I in the wrong?

6:46 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'll have a talking to with myself.

6:51 Speaker 2: I promise you never in my life do that speed limit a game.

6:56 Speaker 5: And you know, especially being black, Let's be real and black were sauced. I totally can tell the difference in a cop engine versus a regular engine. It was so bad in Jersey, especially around certain areas where we lived.

7:13 Speaker 4: It was racist those cops. It was well known.

7:15 Speaker 5: And baby, I didn't even have to look in the review. I could hear the engine when it get up on you. You'd be like, here we.

7:20 Speaker 2: Go, Here we go, Here we go.

7:23 Speaker 4: My Corey got pulled over.

7:25 Speaker 5: He was driving down the street, the same street as the cop and just looked over and kept going.

7:30 Speaker 4: He said he knew.

7:31 Speaker 5: Sure enough, the cop turned around on him, pulled him over and said, I pulled you over because you made eye contact.

7:36 Speaker 4: You look suspicious. So as black folks.

7:38 Speaker 2: We know.

7:39 Speaker 5: So for her to be not only pulled over, know you're in the state you're in and then said, you know, I don't like you.

7:45 Speaker 4: Ray talk to them for me.

7:47 Speaker 2: Girl, You got that?

7:49 Speaker 4: Or she thinks she.

7:50 Speaker 5: Has the privilege that she don't have to because of that que of her skin.

7:54 Speaker 2: And Thomas Jeffers is no longer alive. He can't help you with this one.

7:58 Speaker 4: He cannot help you.

7:59 Speaker 5: And girl, he wouldn't help you in public because no matter how light you are, at the end of the day, you were still a black woman from Surrey County.

8:04 Speaker 2: Exactly, Virginia, Surrey County.

8:07 Speaker 4: Virgin Virginia.

8:08 Speaker 3: That's that's not loving v virgin girl. He's not risking it for you.

8:14 Speaker 2: Hey, that I just don't understand it.

8:16 Speaker 3: I just what about when she was saying it's so bad, right, like this entire thing, it's bad.

8:22 Speaker 2: It's bad.

8:24 Speaker 4: You really think Auntie is going to jail?

8:26 Speaker 3: I don't want to be right, at all, But I think she had multiple this ye infractions.

8:32 Speaker 2: Guitar, There's a lot of them.

8:35 Speaker 3: There was very serious charges I put out there. I'm like, if they knew that they had this video and this footage in discovery, why the hell would they go to trial?

8:44 Speaker 2: Like I really wanted to know.

8:45 Speaker 3: So I asked a lot of people out there, and lawyers responded and they were like, there's a great chance that she completely ignored advice of counsel. That's why I keep hearing her to plead out and she said, no, I'm not going to do that.

8:57 Speaker 2: I'm going to stand up for myself. And I'm like, then, have you seen the footage?

9:03 Speaker 4: Listen?

9:03 Speaker 3: Because what's saying that for what you look sauce, you look literally gone.

9:08 Speaker 2: And if it's not alcohol, I'd love to know what it is.

9:10 Speaker 5: Well with that nose sniffing and sometimes her nose runs, I said.

9:14 Speaker 4: Is it something else?

9:16 Speaker 3: But then then why fail to take the suppress not doing the sobriety tests that looked good.

9:24 Speaker 5: Somebody brought up to me and since we're both malenders,

9:29 Speaker 5: the Noah's law. While they might go hard on her because there is a law that the beryln worked so hard to pass as state trooper. I believe y'all correct me in the comments of I'm wrong, but a state trooper named Noah had pulled over to help someone who was having like a traffic issue, Like he pulled over to be like a good Samaritan and a drunk driver who it wasn't their first time and killed him. This was years ago, I think already from the Reality Is podcast said that they've been working on this for years.

10:00 Speaker 5: So they just passed this Noah's Law in Maryland to be very hard on repeat offenders. And we know this is not her first time, so she thinks that because of that low as law, Noah's Law, that may be what really.

10:17 Speaker 4: You know.

10:17 Speaker 5: And then I don't know if the courts will consider but public outcry.

10:22 Speaker 4: We have her saying on camera I'm lit.

10:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, my thing was like but also like the cops and stuff were there because she got into an accident.

10:32 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, her car was Like she actually was a public harm.

10:36 Speaker 3: She there was a lot of times where she could have accepted responsibility and pleaded out, and she didn't do that. I think sentencing will also take into account her persona on the internet on TV, not apologetic at all. She was partying right up until her trial. She went to all Yes, she went to a party in La or something like a Hollywood party.

10:58 Speaker 4: Oh Kathy Milton.

10:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, yet party her trial was this week. Kathy's party was last weekend?

11:07 Speaker 2: What right? Yep?

11:09 Speaker 3: But yet on the season she can't even come places because of the court dates coming up.

11:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm on her trial.

11:19 Speaker 3: You can go to Kathie Hilton's party before you go to trial. I think a judge would be out of their mind not to consider all of this.

11:27 Speaker 2: Girl. It would look like actual misconducts if they did not consider all of this. And I need people to take a second to be like, well, what about Luayne? What about all these things? The good news is these are all different states. So thats ability to do those things and to pardon this white woman and that white woman. I can't tell you about the racism and all of that or what is going to be allowed for mama courring over the white woman in New York. But I can't tell you that in Maryland, the drunken, the driving, they don't like it.

11:56 Speaker 2: There are so many teenagers in Montgomery County.

11:59 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, they don't.

12:04 Speaker 2: The drunk and the driving. They don't like it. They don't like it.

12:12 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, y'all, MONI has me screaming.

12:14 Speaker 5: I'm literally texting my child really fast because she's probably like, girl, what are you doing that?

12:18 Speaker 4: I want Wendy's for dinner? What I want?

12:20 Speaker 5: And she's talking about the drunk and the driving. They don't like it. My god, I got on today.

12:27 Speaker 2: I just got chapole, but I would love some Wendy's.

12:31 Speaker 4: I want the spicy chicken sandwich meal are small with a coke.

12:36 Speaker 3: Listen, but no, like mebee. I lived in Montgomery County for a long time. I've married, yes, so you know they don't play about that drunk driving. I took my driving ED course taught like by cops, the I Drive Smart company.

12:51 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, okay, all of them. I know.

12:53 Speaker 3: They're the one I took in Montgomery County my high school. That was in Montgomery County, which is where Karen is getting indicted.

12:59 Speaker 2: In Montgomery County.

13:02 Speaker 3: It was taught by cops and all they did was constantly talk about how because in Mcgomery Kenny, there's a lot of roads that have no cameras, no lights, no nothing.

13:10 Speaker 4: It's dark there it's darker. Yes, and yet would.

13:14 Speaker 3: Constantly go down those highways and those roads and they would run into trees because they were drinking, they were not paying attention, and all of a sudden, look at what happens to this.

13:24 Speaker 4: It's no joke.

13:25 Speaker 3: It's a joke, and it's like the one crime that they have. Honestly mcgomy counny. They're not, like, you know, hell been on a whole bunch of other stuff right now, so like they don't play about that.

13:34 Speaker 2: And also it is dangerous, like it's bad, like don't do it.

13:37 Speaker 3: And the way she looks so saut it is undeniable.

13:42 Speaker 4: That you don't have to a word. You don't have to say a word.

13:46 Speaker 3: You didn't even need both videos no, and then and then the third there in in the in the thing.

13:53 Speaker 4: But I also feel like she thought she was a celebrity. I'm the grind.

13:57 Speaker 2: She said, you don't know that what that is? Andy can win that term girl.

14:01 Speaker 6: First of all, it was Giselle, but also so in Maryland, in the D and V, no one gives a ship. I would get, right, I get because we know they're not really the grand.

14:14 Speaker 2: M We only care about that.

14:16 Speaker 3: I know more grands of the literal city of Potomac. Myself, personally, I was gonna turn this show down and I was.

14:25 Speaker 2: Still obsessed with the girl. Is that that said? Yes, I just don't know they.

14:28 Speaker 3: Are technically bottom of the I was gonna say, choices.

14:33 Speaker 5: Girl, we can tell by the no no no shade to them. But when when the real house side of the Potomac first came out, people outside of the d m V I would see all the Bravo accounts, what is that? What is that not knowing that Potomac is in one of the richest counties.

14:49 Speaker 4: And the U. Nited States.

14:53 Speaker 5: But those girls, it's richer than Beverly Hills, honey, but the girls. But rival doesn't know it because of the girls they picked. Because those people, we are not coming on camera exposing their wealth and exposing their lives like you used to always say, you got senators, people that work in DC. They hear all them living in the Potomac area. They not trying to chop lease, absolutely not.

15:17 Speaker 2: No, seriously, they're not. And that's the thing.

15:19 Speaker 3: It's like what we have, there's a lot of wealth here that makes it almost unimpressive, Like it's really just like I have it, then you're impressed by it. But if you don't, you're just like, Okay, a lot of people got wealth, that's fantastic, and then they do with me. So I don't know, Kring, like if the cost would pull over anybody else. It's a money at this point. It's a money game, not a fing Yeah yeah right, and you don't. I don't think you can make it any worse for yourself. That's all I know.

15:46 Speaker 2: She is.

15:47 Speaker 3: I was a bad look. It never should have they she never would have never let this get out, plead out.

15:55 Speaker 4: Because they wanted and they want her to do sixty. But she said no, I wanted to go to trial and then.

16:02 Speaker 2: Yes, thinking that that would be better.

16:05 Speaker 3: Now you're facing I think it's up to two years you can get and you know they say the power of the tongue. Now listen, I know that all things aren't but child, when she said I'm rich, I will sit here for one to two or one of three years, I said.

16:16 Speaker 2: Girl, okay, all right, Karen.

16:23 Speaker 3: Well we were praying for you, girl, We are wishing you all the very best.

16:27 Speaker 5: And can I just say something, People get rail out because of his age. First of all, medicine does a lot. But Ray, I've been watching him on the show. Ray still got his mind.

16:35 Speaker 4: Ray still moves good.

16:36 Speaker 5: And the way he was there out there with her, moving around looking for her, you know he wasn't like no fumbling old man.

16:42 Speaker 2: No, he's got his what's about him? He was clear?

16:45 Speaker 4: Okay, I'll just like them.

16:47 Speaker 5: When he was looking at the Mermaid, honey, listen, Ray is like, this might be his out.

16:53 Speaker 4: Girl raised gone to Florida. I'll put money on your book.

16:55 Speaker 3: He is going to go to Florida and leave her and Rockville he gonna leave her and puts on me, which is actually kind of funny. Okay, this is not funny. I don't know what jail she would go to. People are wondering.

17:05 Speaker 4: Which one would she I was thinking.

17:09 Speaker 2: Jails like that. This is not that, honey. Your optional Your options are what or Potomac.

17:18 Speaker 3: But Potomac has a jail, and it would actually be kind of wild if she went to jail right in the neighborhood that she fought so hard to get back in the gates up girl, the fence and the gatekeeper. Because I can tell you right now it's actually right by where I had brunch yesterday right by Founding Farmers. That's where the jail is. It's like right by these beautiful brownstones. Yeah, they just like threw it in there. It's really wild.

17:44 Speaker 2: That's how mcgomy County is.

17:46 Speaker 3: It doesn't really make a lot of sense, but it just they just throw it in there. But she could be in the same the very neighborhood of her friends in.

17:52 Speaker 5: Locales, and she's wanted to be there so she didn't have to worry about getting thrown out.

17:56 Speaker 4: That's your zip code for the next.

17:58 Speaker 2: There you go all right to you, you know.

18:00 Speaker 5: So a ray I started to go to her trial, but I didn't. I was like, I'm not going down there. No, Rockville's a hard place to park. All I can think about, wait a minute, because I have.

18:13 Speaker 3: Had tickets to do something in the city multiple times. I have gone places in Rockville all the way. They had a trouble parking for fifteen minutes and gone back.

18:24 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I don't have it. I don't have it in me my.

18:27 Speaker 5: But I had told Corey that the day of the trial, he said, man, he was working it, And for tell me he was working down there that day. I said, man, I would have told you, so you could have taken a break and gone and did some boots on the ground. But yeah, Rockville like that, and then downtown what is it that like downtown whatever? If you know, if you don't want to pay a million dollars to park in the parking garage, it's yeah not good.

18:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, no for real, or like in an open lot if you have some fun fifty dollars and a man just comes up with a credit card machine and you like, okay, I forgot all about that, went to DC and May and was like I went for Brocky City Fest and.

19:12 Speaker 4: I'm really trusting you. Yeah, okay my money and that my car is still won't be here when I come out.

19:20 Speaker 2: No, seriously.

19:22 Speaker 3: Secondly, so how are you feeling about this whole uh Kyle versus de Rey Beverly Hills situation.

19:30 Speaker 5: I do think we are getting people say we're getting the old Derrida. I do think that we are getting the dere that has always wanted to say these things.

19:36 Speaker 4: But I think Crystal.

19:38 Speaker 5: Made the comment that when she came on the show, she was told that it was Kyle's show. And if you notice, a lot of people end up becoming Kyle.

19:47 Speaker 4: Yes, and that's.

19:48 Speaker 3: Said that since the very beginning. And they tell you why I do not like.

19:51 Speaker 5: Kyle same and I don't like the way they cozy up to her.

19:56 Speaker 4: And because of.

19:59 Speaker 5: She's the most you and I talked about this, she's the most beta alpha barrier.

20:05 Speaker 4: Yes, I believe that, Dori.

20:08 Speaker 5: I think two things can be true. People are saying, dereit's only acting like this because of a check. She's decided I'm gonna be the real me yep, so I can get my money. And I make sure, she said Pierre, and I appreciate the way she's been able to shut Kyle down and had Kyle apologizing at that dinner. Yes, because Kyle couldn't refute what she was saying. And I'm gonna say this, I love my girl Garcel. She was the only black girl on that show for a minute. I haven't always agreed with everything she's done.

20:35 Speaker 5: I get why her and Durit have this back and forth. I've seen people say Garcel's going after doured on behalf of Kyle. No, no, no, I believe Kyle is now cozying up to Garcel because she knows their relationship. We know that Kyle and Garcel have not seen it really for each other, even though they've tried.

20:53 Speaker 4: They haven't hung out.

20:53 Speaker 5: We haven't seen them other than that one time after the You've raised your paddle at my thing.

20:59 Speaker 2: We haven't seen them hanging out.

21:01 Speaker 5: On the first or second episode, at Sutton's party, Kyle says to Garcel, I feel safe with you and puts her hands over Garsel, and I said, here we go. She's gonna bring up Derit because she already knows how Garcel feels about Deri.

21:16 Speaker 4: So Garcel's not going after Derrit for Kyle.

21:18 Speaker 5: Kyle is using Garcel or not using how Garcel really feels about Deret.

21:24 Speaker 2: She's, yeah, benefiting from the opportunity like she's from Garcela feelings about the enemy of my enemy is my friend, it's my friend.

21:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, a normal situation. Kyle is not Garcel's friend at all.

21:37 Speaker 4: Do you feel like she gagged Camille?

21:40 Speaker 3: I was loving, absolutely, absolutely, And I love it because I love I love Camille because she's never afraid to show up and get her as handed to her and get embarrassed. And I think that shamelessness is exactly what we need on a like this.

22:02 Speaker 5: Money that is not where I thought you were going.

22:08 Speaker 4: I did not think you were going too because she shows up.

22:12 Speaker 5: I thought you were gonna say, she shows up and she's willing to get in the mess. Oh, she shows up and gets Now. I don't know if you watch the after show, but you know on the after show, remember in the show when Camille was telling Kyle it's a midlife crisis and Kyle and her confessional was like, it's not the same girl. On that after show, her sitting with Erica, Kyle admitted that, in fact, it was a mid life crisis. I said, so, why you ain't say that in the scene. And I love when the after show that Kyle that Erica.

22:43 Speaker 4: Is not.

22:45 Speaker 5: Always on Kyle's side, meaning they were talking about Durrett's behavior, and Erica said, I give grace because I was mean, I was nasty, I was this during my divorce. She said, now, if Durretz stays this way, which I really don't think Darret's doing anything to not stay that way, but I I followed her where she was going. Kyle says, that's not an excuse, and Erica said, I'm giving her grace. So I appreciated Erica sticking to that with Kyle and not just saying Kyle, yes, you're right to reach an act this way.

23:15 Speaker 4: Erica was kind of like, nah, I get it.

23:17 Speaker 5: I've been there and I really appreciate it that and Kyle was just kind of forced to be like mm hmm, yeah, what do you think about? Because I love how bos and Bose said to Sutton, you can't weaponize and something was like how but Bose was handing it to her. And I was only annoyed that Camille interrupted because I wanted Bose to continue to check her.

23:37 Speaker 4: But I wonder what their future looks like.

23:41 Speaker 2: I love Bose too, I really do.

23:45 Speaker 3: I think she's a good a breath of fresh air and a good I think that she is not She's like not she's not confused by any of the dynamics or what's happening. I love that she's not like playing like deer in the headlights, like what is going going on?

24:00 Speaker 2: Yet crazy?

24:01 Speaker 3: She's just like wow, they're talking a lot. Wow, She I have no idea what they're fighting about.

24:05 Speaker 2: Like she's just.

24:06 Speaker 3: Observing, taking data and then asking the proper questions, but like not too nosy. It don't really concern her, Like she's interested but not concerned.

24:16 Speaker 5: And I like that, Oh that's good, interested but not concerned.

24:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I really like her and I like I think that when it comes to so these with the Beverly Hills ladies, Erica, I've always I wondered what her pivot was gonna be. The Fox Wars five has been disbanded.

24:38 Speaker 2: So it's like, what is their identity.

24:40 Speaker 3: On the show, because you can't have a Fox Force anything with only three girlies, so you got rid of too. And I actually think it makes sense that Dei is like girl, I was not friends with Teddy. I was friends with you, and we were a clique because we all wanted to be on this show and you know it.

24:58 Speaker 2: And I need kind to stop thinking that because hold on, she.

25:04 Speaker 3: Is experiencing it that way, that that's everyone's experience. I'm old asking, not your you know, it's your show in this way. Do not be surprised when people tell you to your face that they are not having the same amount of fun as you are.

25:18 Speaker 5: Right, and this whole thing started with the whole set. I said, there's a big argument happening that Sutton brought. I just want everybody to be honest over something that didn't happen. The flashback prove Durit said, we're friends, but we're not close. Y'all keep trying to make her a hypocrite, but it's not true. So we got this big old blow up with Sutton and with this one over something that's not even true. I hope they clocked that at the reunion. But I like how you said, girl, that's your experience.

25:46 Speaker 5: That don't mean I expert. And I followed what Duri was saying. She wasn't trying to say, I uh would I John Mellencamp needs my retweet. But but if this person who I'm in a group with, if she don't normally tagged me, and she's tagging me and her dad we're all here.

26:03 Speaker 4: Of course she wants me to repost, it's not gonna hurt.

26:06 Speaker 3: I would repost what my fans post me in like what are you talking about? Like come on, Like, it doesn't mean I'm standing up for her. I'm not going to her cause it didn't tweet out her both on me link Hey looking for some not saying oh, please support my friend during any of her journeys and stuff. She even posted a little video that someone tags her in that she's in with a whole bunch of other girls thinking that they're all going to repost that thing.

26:30 Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything wrong with.

26:31 Speaker 3: That, like not to mention, like, I just think that Kyle at Bravo Khan, I'm like, how is Dery not more mad that Kyle tossed that water or whatever?

26:42 Speaker 4: And it got right?

26:43 Speaker 2: And then you're mad at me because I said, you're not my favorite? Why the hell would you be? And I said, my damp? Why am i damp? You're my favorite? But I'm damp.

26:57 Speaker 4: I want that to be the title on the episode. This episoda why.

27:03 Speaker 3: Because what are you talking about? Of course I'm gonna say, well, now it's not Kyle. Hell fucking yeah, that would be my joke too, right right.

27:11 Speaker 2: It was tongue in cheek.

27:13 Speaker 3: It was so tongue in cheak about that. She bobbled her head and said, and they all laughed. It's like for the fans, yes, yes, honestly, it's like it's no more like she can't get past that, but that Dey can get past Erica saying tongue in chicaly but more legit, who do you think will be the next couple to get divorced. Durkay Deiy is now sitting here like, well, listen, she wasn't wrong, right exactly exactly, Kyle, you talk.

27:42 Speaker 5: When she started trying to list off of I haven't I've never seen it for Kyle, even from the beginning, and when she when she's and they trying to make it seem like Lisa Vandamprotma so manipulative it that text. I don't care what you say, Kyle admitted, even if we didn't have her admission to icing out her friends, and when she was called out on it, she said, it's because she was going through something. And then you send me a text the night before the reunion to not mention our fight only because I don't want to lose another friend, only to get on the reunion the next day, not knowing that I showed the text message and said, or now in the text message the night before, we're close.

28:25 Speaker 4: I don't want to lose you.

28:26 Speaker 5: You got on stage the next day again not knowing anybody else saw the text and said, we haven't been close.

28:34 Speaker 2: Girl.

28:34 Speaker 4: I said.

28:36 Speaker 2: They need to.

28:37 Speaker 5: Clock her on that. You literally said in the text message, we're closed. Let's not discuss it, but then the next day, not knowing somebody else.

28:45 Speaker 4: Is gonna see that text.

28:46 Speaker 5: We're not close, so I know why Durita is like, girl, you sent me a text last night.

28:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not understanding Kyle's on this. I think it's one of those things on you don't want to hear her. You don't want to hear her feeling because you're so used to everybody letting you get away with whatever.

29:02 Speaker 4: I'm on and you crying and running you.

29:06 Speaker 3: And that you're upset that yet again someone is clocking you and letting you know that you're not being a good friend to them, just like Lisa Vanda Pump did to you and her mind you out of her house. You were not being a good friend to her. I don't know who would do even if you did find out that your friend was planting stories or whatever. Why would you go telling people and exposing that and try to pin them against each other and then be mad that she's she's calling you up.

29:31 Speaker 2: Not a good friend. If you're a liar, you're don't want nothing to do with you.

29:36 Speaker 4: And they're both to saying one, then you're one.

29:39 Speaker 3: Exactly the same thing with Brandy and Denise like yeah, and she always becomes close with the person that she's falling out with, and then that relationship doesn't last because like her and three only became close because of Lisa Vanda Pump. They're falling out.

29:58 Speaker 4: Yeahs Pump brought on Teddy.

30:00 Speaker 5: Yeah, and Teddy became close with Lisa Vanda Pump brought on Lisa Renna, and Lisa Renna became close friends with col.

30:06 Speaker 4: So it's like the question who brought on Erica Jane? I forget.

30:12 Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good point. I don't think did anybody?

30:15 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, right, maybe nobody did. Oh Yolanda, Yolanda?

30:20 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Yolanda, she was friends. She was a fabulous pop star. And Tom and the business.

30:25 Speaker 4: And stuff, yes, yes, that's right, okay, okay.

30:28 Speaker 3: And no stuff and things and people you know, Rich white Man, I don't know.

30:34 Speaker 5: Did you see that the judges weighing on whether or not Tom is going to do present time or like a mental facility.

30:39 Speaker 3: If Tom does prison time, Karen's going to ohay, do you understand me?

30:49 Speaker 2: Tom is like eighteen percent.

30:52 Speaker 3: Left on the charger, like on the phone battery charger and plugged in.

30:57 Speaker 4: I'm hanging up like Ni nigga mine.

30:59 Speaker 3: Did you say, okay, if he is going to do any if the judge considering throwing that old decrepit thing into the jail with the other old decrepit things, Karen is too young and vibrant for them not to throw her in the jail for at least a couple of days. You said, okay, there's no way I know his crimes were more. I mean, I can't say more egregious, because what's money to rich or to victims versus someone She could have heard you know what I'm saying right like and herself. She looked ridiculous. Stop this, Well, you're embarrassed.

31:34 Speaker 3: The room has more eyes on it than ever before, and she has not been apologetic on the show.

31:43 Speaker 2: I was shocked she was able to go to Panama. I trip she takes.

31:49 Speaker 5: My stomach would be sitting in my buttole the entire time. I wouldn't even be able to do even if because it was a criminal case, even if she decided to fight it, I would be on that show crying and snn saying I'm in a fight for my life. I'm so nervous I can't even talk about it. I'm glad that no one was her. I believe there's a way she could have talked about it without implicating herself.

32:13 Speaker 2: But that's not what she tried to do.

32:16 Speaker 3: And then you never said I think that this is a very serious case. It's ongoing. I don't want to do, you know, to say anything against the advice. Yes, lawyers, you can just be honest. But y'all, I'm scared. But I'm scared because like, this is a really serious thing, and as something that it's not my finest moment. I regret it anything except the guilt. You have to just take the responsibility at that point. And if it were me, I would want I have a camera crew built in as my montage to show how sorry I am.

32:48 Speaker 3: Your you're bugging if you don't use that to your advantage.

32:51 Speaker 5: To your advantage, because we know that they look at that Jinshaw.

32:55 Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you or Erica Jane as your thing your honors separate me from that man who stole all those plain victims money. I am just I can't believe someone would do. I have no simply not it would be so it's such a tragedy. What could what happened to those people? I hope we get to the bottom of it. I really hope that we can figure it out that they're on. I will be as anything just to be like, you don't have to incriminate yourself, but you can at least have show remorse for something like like I'm glad no one.

33:27 Speaker 2: Else was hurt.

33:28 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, say.

33:29 Speaker 3: Things like I'm going through a lot, and what I'm going through, you're not going through anything to.

33:35 Speaker 4: Bring your daughter on too low key threat And the lady's talking about.

33:38 Speaker 5: If they're not your friends, if they can't support you, they're not your friends.

33:42 Speaker 4: And then to turn around.

33:45 Speaker 5: No, like like you said, if Tom is at eighteen percent.

33:50 Speaker 3: If Tom Girardi is gonna possibly do a time, Karen will do a time, and to have.

34:02 Speaker 2: There's no way and I don't want her to. I'm not with what you know.

34:06 Speaker 3: I know what you mean, but I don't think she do well. There is no Sprucy prison because the one thing about Montgomery County is that because the money is old, everything is old.

34:17 Speaker 2: It's old. It is so old.

34:20 Speaker 3: Maryland is an old ass state. Everything is old. It is very much so. Giving thirteen original colonies still in a lot of places like in the biggest places. Okay, like the best leaders next to like a five million dollar condo. Come, yes, because it's so good. But it's like on Connecticut Avenue. It is like third million years old, right, But you're not too far from Walter Reed. They're building Ritz Carlton residences next to it, and they have not touched that Leado since it opened, and it's still there.

34:56 Speaker 3: But the pizza is delicious. It's a pizza place. It's just out shout out to Kempire.

35:01 Speaker 5: When he did his live show in DC last year, afterwards, me and Corey took him to get Leados.

35:06 Speaker 2: I love that he loved it. It's I'm sure it's the best, the best.

35:10 Speaker 3: Come visit us, let us know, d N, me and Teria and we'll take you to go get some lidos.

35:14 Speaker 4: Yes, we'll take y'all aldos.

35:15 Speaker 3: I'll thank you exactly where Karen crashed her car to.

35:18 Speaker 4: We'll take him on a tour. For those of you who may not know, which you probably do know.

35:24 Speaker 5: But for anybody who came and doesn't know me, Mani Chelsea, oh no, Chelse, Amanda Mandy Homage, Artie did nor, I don't think nor came. Artie and we went to the barn where the infamous fire.

35:45 Speaker 4: Fight and we reenacted it.

35:48 Speaker 2: Athlete Were you? Who were you?

35:49 Speaker 4: Because I was Monique I think and who I think? And who were you you?

35:53 Speaker 2: I thought you were Ashley?

35:54 Speaker 4: Oh I think I was.

35:55 Speaker 5: No.

35:56 Speaker 4: Wasn't it who ran it was? Came out maybe Ashley? Yeah, Mandy was Ashley?

36:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was funny they ran in, But you know that was really really fun. But like, yeah, no, we'll take you on a little tour of potom making sure you we're caring. You know, needs to take accountability. It's just not a good look. And I think she would actually just be better if she was like, this is how you grow, even if she came out and said something yeah, because.

36:20 Speaker 2: Her now is I think she should do it now. I think it's not too late.

36:24 Speaker 5: Yeah and say I'm embarrassed about my actions exactly.

36:27 Speaker 3: I think the word that she used that her lawyer used was I'm disappointed that they're disappointed in the outcome. I'm like, how are you disappointed in the outcomeing out your actions?

36:37 Speaker 5: And what did you think the outcome of it? I think Karen also thought she would have this. Yeah, she thought she was gonna get off on a technicality, like they didn't read me my Miranda rights girl.

36:50 Speaker 2: Look at you, but you crash your car. I don't think there was like nine different charge.

37:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, It'spire tags and all the things registration.

37:06 Speaker 2: If you're gonna do crime, listen and you're rich.

37:10 Speaker 5: Member when she was on Debt Free and Loaded that season, she brought that car. You don't keep up on your tags. You're not so rich that you have an assistant doing that for you. You don't keep up on your own. Even the rich folks I think keep up on their bags and stuff.

37:22 Speaker 2: Somebody, they pay somebody to do it. Do it. Yeah.

37:26 Speaker 3: I'm just like, if you're at a place where you're gonna be doing any kind of crimes, two things I need you to do. Make sure your car is not an immediate red flag or a signal.

37:39 Speaker 2: Right, and do it discreetly. Do not look.

37:44 Speaker 3: For instance, if you're going to say, and I'm not saying you should, don't do it, but if you're gonna say drink and drive like Karen did that time allegedly, but I think she was found guilty, so not alleged, but she was literally found absolutely responsible. If you're gonna do that what you should do is make sure your tags are not you know, expired or you know registration is up to date. Make sure you're you have a valid driver's license, and don't make sure you have your wallet. Now is not the time to play fast and loose, because if they pull you over, you're in real deep for crime numbers and police I learned this from my drivers a class from the police officers.

38:29 Speaker 3: They were like, there is a book that they have in Montgomery County at least of offenses that for traffic violations. It is so thick that if you are just a little bit too cavalier about whatever, or I don't know, driving around dangerously, they will look through the book and find other things that you are supposed to have done. It's really a matter of it if they want to do the paperwork or not, if you don't, if you didn't, if you don't deserve it. So please one, be polite. If you're going to do crime, be to the officer upon arrival.

39:04 Speaker 3: Make them really second guess whether or not you are the criminal that you are.

39:08 Speaker 2: Portraying to be. Right.

39:10 Speaker 3: Make them confused, right, okay, make them confused. Secondly, make sure your vehicle things are up to date, because they will be like, there's no way this person is a criminal because their vehicle is up to date. They go put their name on government paper and they make appointments and they wait in line and they call the government and they wait on hold and they got a kiosk at the DMV like they don't have time to do crimes, right, Like, that's not why your Why does your masorati smell of alcohol from the street, Karen.

39:44 Speaker 2: That's problematic.

39:48 Speaker 3: If your alcohol smell, if your car smells like alcohol, please be kind to the police officer to pose you over after you've crashed your car and ruin his night as.

39:56 Speaker 5: Well, and it's on fire, it's all what is it supposed to do? Not a rescue like, oh my gosh, it is.

40:04 Speaker 3: On fire and it is it is not flame retardant because there's alcohol inside, so we could have an explosion. Were just trying to do his rounds and go to bed and you called him poor and white and you crashed the car.

40:21 Speaker 4: And you crashed the car.

40:22 Speaker 2: How you're gonna call that man poor?

40:24 Speaker 3: You crash the car and don't have at the registration right license?

40:30 Speaker 2: Girl?

40:31 Speaker 3: We need because I'm so disappointed, Like I'm disappointed. You don't get to say disappointed. I'm disappointed.

40:38 Speaker 2: He's raising me while I'm raising you.

40:43 Speaker 3: Her daughter, Raven is older than me, right, yeah older, Her children are older than me. Yeah, I got the sense to not drink and drive. And isn't the whole thing that we know about Kring is that blue Eyes was her fucking dry? What is going on?

41:02 Speaker 2: Why are you even in the.

41:03 Speaker 4: Car at all in the first place?

41:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, didn't Mia expose you a couple halfway through the apcoon in the early part of the season, because you got in the car with somebody and they're like, oh, the girls think I'm with Ray, So somebody else got the key?

41:17 Speaker 2: You add them to them?

41:18 Speaker 4: Yep, yep, yep.

41:20 Speaker 3: And if you were with a man, why didn't that man take you somewhere? Why don't all got a little drop off spot or something?

41:25 Speaker 5: So Chari said that she was effing somebody in the bathroom, so she might have been fing somebody in her car. And then he just got out and walked to them, and then she drove, and then she drove my driver somewhere else. They met somewhere, had them stella or twice they got it in the car and then can't something was already sliding.

41:45 Speaker 3: Listen, if you're stella are towassing and then crashing and going into flames, then you need to You might need to sit inside and.

41:53 Speaker 2: Do a little bit of reflection. Yeah, yeah, I think that if I just need to know.

41:58 Speaker 3: Why she didn't I need to hear an apology. I just think that she needs to bite it on this one. You can still be fabulous. Fabulous people say when they're and they hurt something and.

42:09 Speaker 5: They hold their head high and don't let it and just keep it moving like yes, and.

42:14 Speaker 3: They make a fabulous come back. And like I said, get a sponsorship from Uber. Get in Uber collab. The surly uber eats already has a relationship with Bravo. We've seen the vander Pump Rules girls and the jersey promoted. Get an Uber sponsorship. Drive Safe for New Years. Okay, show the judge before sentencing that you take this seriously and you don't want people to follow in your footsteps and think that they can do bad things and not have repercussions. My mama used to always say, and this is gonna trigger somebody.

42:50 Speaker 3: If you've heard this, you might end up comment, calling me the choices you make are long lasting and life changing. You can make the choice, but you cannot choose the conct sequence you.

43:01 Speaker 2: Girl, Yes, and life changing.

43:03 Speaker 3: Indeed, I'm sure she is sick to her stomach if she was sick. I'm curious to watch Panama as it unfolds. We're only on the first episode of them being there and so far, you know, Karen is there and nothing's really happening. Yeah, but like it's I'm curious to see how she feels and looks and acts as she's doing this, Like as she's going through this major life thing. Whenever women are on a cash trip and they're going through a major life thing, I just am like, I just it's like watching like I'm y, Yeah, it's like watching an animal, like in its natural and it's natural habitat, but like taken out of context, like it's like.

43:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, like it's like not real.

43:41 Speaker 3: I'm like, what's happening, Like I just want to know what they're thinking, feeling going through.

43:46 Speaker 5: Well, I'll say this lastly about this and think back when Michael got charged with that stuff. They then the next season showed the ladies watching them. Then when Jizelle say down with her popcorn and.

44:01 Speaker 4: They were watching.

44:03 Speaker 5: I wonder if if they've picked up cameras or if they recorded from their phones and getting the ladies reactions to this.

44:15 Speaker 3: That's a good question. My second, my son, my last, My final question. My thoughts for us over the new year with would be do we think if she does do any time, well they wait.

44:25 Speaker 2: For her to come.

44:26 Speaker 4: I was wondering, like they did with Terria, I think they would.

44:29 Speaker 3: I don't think she'll get a substantial amount of time long enough because she didn't hurt anyone financially, and she didn't hurt anyone physically.

44:35 Speaker 2: She just violated a bunch of stuff and broke a lot of laws like and and the dangerous things that are really bad. Yes, but like no one, thank god, no one was hurt.

44:45 Speaker 3: So like, it's not like they're looking to like make her like to you know, teach her a lesson or make her really regret this or whatever. It's like really like a pause and reflect, like, please don't ever do that again.

44:56 Speaker 2: That'd be great. I think that it won't be that much time.

45:02 Speaker 3: So that they might be like they'll try to get that reunion film before sentencing because if they sentence her in January, they might take her immediately. Who knows, Who don't know what's gonna happen. Work around parole, work around house arrests, maybe a long time house.

45:15 Speaker 5: That's what I was thinking. Maybe house arrests. Yeah, but like, what's what is that? Like, what's what is that?

45:21 Speaker 2: Like?

45:21 Speaker 3: I could see five months of house arrest because you don't need to be going nowhere if you said sorry when we when you got started. But you know what I'm saying, like it just doesn't feel like enough all that we've seen it.

45:34 Speaker 2: And you went this long, this far, this long talking about I'm innocent. I didn't do it. All of this. It's like jin shaw, I'm like, who do you think you fall in? We're We're never gonna find out you think we're stupid.

45:49 Speaker 4: And let's be clear, this is Maryland, Montgomery County, this rich neighborhood, the same PG not even like like with black folks Baltimore. So you or Baltimore. So you looked at that white man and told him he was white and poor and that she was black and rich. And if you don't think and you know where I'm going with this?

46:11 Speaker 3: In his head and said, oh, you're going to shell like he's so excited. They all loved lining up. All those people love lining up and witnessing. And here in those witness testimonies, why did the witness from down the streets say you had a car smell like alcohol?

46:24 Speaker 2: What are you talking about?

46:26 Speaker 4: Right? You were from Like.

46:29 Speaker 3: If someone's like, oh, we pulled them over because we could smell weed from the car, you shouldn't be doing that.

46:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's yeah.

46:36 Speaker 2: If someone can smell it, then they're gonna pull you over.

46:38 Speaker 3: And if they say, hey, I can smell it, and then it's like alcohol alcohol.

46:42 Speaker 2: No hardness to get your stuff to smell like alcohol.

46:44 Speaker 4: It is not your car.

46:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is not weed. Like, it's not like an instantaneous something else smell.

46:51 Speaker 5: That's because somebody was in there drinking it we hard and nigga out after they did it. It probably smelled like alcohol and booch cat.

47:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, that wave was so far back.

47:03 Speaker 4: Well, you mentioned Jenshaw. Can I say something about Salt Lake City?

47:06 Speaker 1: Real?

47:06 Speaker 3: My god please, I was just about to say like the same thing, like, you know, it's interesting to watch women go through like life challenges and then like go on a trip because we also in Salt Lake City, like Mary is going through like a real situation at.

47:22 Speaker 2: Home and possibly brong Win too.

47:26 Speaker 3: Or on that and it's like and Mary like just arrived on the trip, and I'm like, damn, I would be so anxious, like I'm not a mother, I have no idea like hashtagnoim.

47:36 Speaker 4: I would be thinking about myself.

47:38 Speaker 2: I would be super anxious.

47:39 Speaker 3: I'm anxious with her there and this is not my kid, and I don't know these people.

47:44 Speaker 5: The only way that I would be able to relax even a little bit is knowing that he's in a place that can help him. He's not home saying I'm not going to do it. He's not with his dad saying I'm not going to do it. He is in a facility that is designed to help him. Yeah, that would be and it may be good because if it's one of those no contacts, she would just be home crying thinking about it. So she probably really needed this getaway. Also, I'm loving this season. Do not bring Bonica Garcia back, thank you.

48:17 Speaker 2: You don't need to.

48:18 Speaker 3: What you need to do is write wrong on a nice big check. Keep that girl around. I think that that woman has had one of the most dynamite first seasons of Housewives I've ever seen. Yeah, I agree, underrated queen. I mean, I know people like our people forget this is her first season.

48:37 Speaker 2: It's blowing mouse.

48:38 Speaker 4: It's not like, yeah, blowing my mind.

48:40 Speaker 3: The vulnerability in appropriate times, it is not feeling forced. It is not you can tell that she both didn't know what she was signing up for but genuinely sought refuge here like from Lisa. It has me feeling feelings about Lisa Barlow, and I never feel feelings negative feelings about Lisa Barlow.

48:59 Speaker 4: I had from the beginning.

49:00 Speaker 2: I know most people do.

49:03 Speaker 3: I don't need to know our problematic face. Listen, people love Hermona. I'm allowed at least one probably, You're right, you know what you They love her so much they still get out every day, So I'm allowed at least one. Yes, Astrolo has never done anything to make me feel personally attacked.

49:25 Speaker 2: You're right, but I don't. I'm I'm team Bronwin on a lot.

49:29 Speaker 3: Of these things, and I'm just like you're making solid points. She's coherent, she's smart, she's like I thought I was coming on here to meet my friend's friends, and I'm not and even I'm like, I don't like the way that you responded to Braun when crying on this boat. You're so much more likable this way. That's not what you say to somebody who just say that their husband and cheated.

49:49 Speaker 4: I don't believe it.

49:50 Speaker 5: This, This is what I believe in the very beginning, because Lisa is delusional and she loves for people to look at her as the cool girl in this girl, right, I.

50:00 Speaker 3: Get Whitney and Heather like. It's also because her and Meredith or cheaters.

50:04 Speaker 4: So they yes, that was so good.

50:06 Speaker 2: That was good after not that's a respect.

50:08 Speaker 5: I said, come on, Whitney, I can't believe I'm giving Whitney. I've been giving this season and you know how I felt about Whitney, and I'm like, Whitney, I'm with you.

50:15 Speaker 4: That was good.

50:16 Speaker 2: Can I get amen.

50:17 Speaker 5: In the beginning of the season, Lisa herself admits she wanted to be friends with Brahma. She said, because not because I met her somewhere and I enjoyed her personality, or I met her somewhere and she was vulnerable because she dressed fabulous, They had money, they were like this couple, and she said she was in sweatpants and Brownan was probably thinking, who is this little poor girl to Lisa. I think Brownwin's vulnerability turned her off. Oh you were supposed to be this cool girl with this fabulous life and now you still yeah, And I said absolutely see that in her off stead when Brownan was crying, she said, you're so much more likable this way, which I was like, I took that as a dig.

50:57 Speaker 2: You're like you're she as she takes down the fabulousity.

51:02 Speaker 3: She's more of like, you're not as cool as y.

51:06 Speaker 2: Not cooler than me. Yes to bring you in because you were cooler, richer, better than me. I needed you to be my friend.

51:13 Speaker 3: But you're like this, Oh I'm good, I'm perfectly fine. I'm good, because like, why would you say that as if it was like some big praise of being vulnerable and you don't believe her.

51:24 Speaker 5: And you don't And then on the after show what really gets me? And y'all know I have not seen it. If you if you didn't know, you're knowing now Heather, I was going to say, Heather Barlow, Heather is.

51:33 Speaker 2: Another one, never, never professional, and.

51:37 Speaker 5: Said she loves everything that Mormons don't love homosexual as black people and drinking.

51:41 Speaker 4: I said, boop, no, thank you.

51:43 Speaker 5: But when she was giving brom Win that speech on the boat about you deserve this, you deserve that, you don't have to take this from a man, I was like, okay, only to turn around on the after show and say she threw her husband under the bus.

51:56 Speaker 4: You are still male identified. It is so in you. She got on the after.

52:02 Speaker 5: Show and said basically that bron went threw Todd under the bus. What about so you didn't say the things weren't true? You said she threw him under the bus after that empowering speech on the boat, And that's what gets me, who are you really?

52:16 Speaker 2: Then?

52:16 Speaker 5: This is why we still see you fight and struggle with not being a Mormon, because when she said on that boat, basically I dumbed myself down. I catered to whatever he wanted. He had to leave me. That's why, because you still you could if he hadn't left you, you would still now be in that life and still judging and looking down on other people. So for her to get on the after show and take up her Todd.

52:39 Speaker 3: Because I actually found Heather to be like in that moment I'm like because I'm like, Bronwa may not be ready to hear this, but also I liked that, and Bronwin said she was like, I know I've chosen to stay with Todd, but I appreciate her every day. This moment back hit me like, oh girl, she said, I make the choice every day.

52:57 Speaker 4: Again, I was like, wow, when you think about it, I make the chere.

53:02 Speaker 3: I mean, I do choose to be married every day. But I also like this, I forget about that. I have to choose me too, girl.

53:09 Speaker 2: I'm so married, having a nice time. I don't even know that I'm married, Yes, having a nice time.

53:15 Speaker 3: I feel like, oh yeah, choose me married check like take my pills like you know, yeah, But I appreciate that.

53:24 Speaker 2: Like I thought that Heather was, you know, offering support.

53:26 Speaker 5: It was such good to and encouragement to those watching, like because I found it reinforcing, because sometimes you do feel like, who am I to ask for more? Because people look at your life. Even if your life is good, you're still like right to ask for more.

53:43 Speaker 4: So Heather is like, and.

53:45 Speaker 5: It's okay to be one way and then say, you know what, I don't like this anymore.

53:50 Speaker 4: This doesn't work for me anymore. I want to do this.

53:53 Speaker 5: And I felt like, especially for women, that that was good for us to hear, just a reminder, only for you to get on the after show and think about.

54:00 Speaker 4: The same time that you were dogging.

54:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, you just he don't look good to her. He doesn't treat her right, and I found that.

54:10 Speaker 3: To be true. But Bromin, you know, she's a smart girl. I think she's gonna have a great reunion. She's really with it. She immediately clocked that Lisa is doing just enough to piss her off, like to like tings and almost to make her go crazy if really it is gaslighting. I was like, that's kind of wild. I can see it too because and now it piss me off. But also that's how I would fight, so I get it. Lisa, like, that's good house, Ciphery, throw your old friend, put the new girl in your villa, and throw the old girl and the other villa because you don't want to be near her right now.

54:46 Speaker 5: That just did what Wendy did, but didn't admit it the way Wendy admitted it.

54:50 Speaker 2: No, we look like I love a mess. I chose chaos, bitches.

54:57 Speaker 5: And that's what Lisa did because truthfully and honestly, like, come on, and I must say, people keep saying Brittany should get a peach. I don't know why she did it, but I'm okay with her being a friend of.

55:09 Speaker 4: Did you see Jared's announcement?

55:11 Speaker 2: She's a good friend of. She does mean to me the same way Jacqueline does like she does.

55:16 Speaker 4: Just a matter.

55:16 Speaker 2: I don't need anymore. Yeah, anymore, that's just enough.

55:20 Speaker 5: Did you see that Jared made an announcement. I said, oh, he wants her to have a snowflake. He made an announcement posting him and her and saying, introducing my girlfriend at Brittany Bateman.

55:32 Speaker 3: Like that, Mellencamp and Osmond is not a good I don't care. Y'all are not going to get younger viewers with that. You're not You're not even gonna give millennials with that.

55:42 Speaker 2: Let it go, move on. If we don't want an.

55:45 Speaker 3: Osmond, we don't care. That's not enough to get a snowflake. I think they want to be on TV.

55:51 Speaker 4: Yeah I was.

55:51 Speaker 5: And then his daughter either commented this won't work, it's crazy or something like that, but then it was deleted.

55:59 Speaker 4: I mean she's she's something, she is your daughter's approved or are you still not speaking to them? I'm sorry they still not speaking to you because of a man.

56:08 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I'm just saying I need you to get it together. You know why.

56:13 Speaker 5: I don't think about how fabulous Bronwin is and the gifts and the money and I love seeing the ladies. That way all we got for Monica Lash season other than the obvious stuff.

56:24 Speaker 4: She was crying about Lisa talking about her rank.

56:26 Speaker 5: I don't want no housewives coming on clocking somebody else's money in a way that it made me feel so bad. I went out and bought a Louis Vataton to feel included.

56:34 Speaker 4: I don't want that. I don't want to say that.

56:36 Speaker 3: I even found uncomfortable when this past episode Erica Jane was like when she saw Jennifer's like boat, she was like, nobody wants to see your like nah, uh huh, you don't get to be better because we want all your money. Oh all this goddamn place your money. So I don't want to hear it. And she's like, it almost makes you. I'm definitely coveting that neighbor's things. I'm like it is, but Kyle had Russian doll burkins. Come on, girl, but you mad at Jennifer for having a Louver Tombo.

57:08 Speaker 2: It's fun. Don't be better?

57:11 Speaker 4: How about the.

57:13 Speaker 5: The viewers loving Kyle punting her burkins in the loving Jennifer Tilly's thirty thousand dollars boat and they about how to stroke when the producers flashed the price of Crystal's bag three seasons ago.

57:25 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm still okay, which I don't understand.

57:29 Speaker 2: We've seen experience. This is what we want to see.

57:31 Speaker 3: This is Lil's It's Kathy Hilton. Come on, do you understand what we're talking about?

57:37 Speaker 4: I want to see the bags.

57:39 Speaker 3: Adrian Malouf came on here sending us on a private jet to a very low level basketball team's day in the same state that they already lived in. If that is not opulence.

57:58 Speaker 4: Delivered? Was it a watch of something delivered her where they were they were eating?

58:01 Speaker 3: And have this like ten brought to her in the Caribbean or whatever the case, or something like.

58:08 Speaker 2: Posts made it? Are you kidding? Get out of my face.

58:13 Speaker 3: Also, I actually feel really bad that Dearit and Kyle are having this hard but they're not. Kyle's not capable of being a good friend like that in a reciprocal way. So I think it actually really inconveniences Kyle that Deit is getting separated at the same time and Kyle can't be primary like divorce, going through that time in the midlife crisis and all the things. That's a good and it's upsetting her because Mauricio and PK are having the time of their life.

58:41 Speaker 2: They're in this together like a boom, you know.

58:45 Speaker 5: And Erica didn't make that point. They're they're having a good old time. And then those two are.

58:49 Speaker 3: Then you're fighting over here, Yeah, because you're mad that Deit hijacked your separation.

58:58 Speaker 4: That is so that is a good point, and dissympathated it.

59:01 Speaker 3: Yet why does her story keep changing every single time somebody asked her what do we did? She goes, it's this all culmination of things. But like, so, you've just been letting these things faster for all these.

59:11 Speaker 5: Like so you've been letting them fast because you because you iced her, You've let they've festered because you've admittedly iced her out. So she didn't even have a chance to talk to you about the things. And now that the cameras are rolling exactly.

59:26 Speaker 2: Oh my god.

59:28 Speaker 5: And the last thing I say said, I'm gonna start saying when Camilles, when somebody points out something you've done, instead of you're defending yourself and you had your friends wait for hours doing a photo shoot and right and just sitting there like no one can MANI you made me wait twenty five minutes for this recording.

59:51 Speaker 4: She didn't you.

59:52 Speaker 5: I'm just use an example, and then you come on and go and okay, well it's like, where do we like? You won't even engage in the back and forth with me, So I loved dai saying. And then when she started yawning, I said, girl, Now it was funny when she called Camille a cunt and they flashed.

1:00:13 Speaker 4: The call in the professional she said.

1:00:16 Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa like all the ladies were like, and she said, I didn't call you what is it?

1:00:22 Speaker 2: I didn't cut I called you a stupid I called you a stupid thing, which.

1:00:28 Speaker 5: We knew that she was joking when she did it. She did it because Camille gave her the ball gag yeah too much?

1:00:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, and again tongue in cheek, talking cheek always been like this y'all have just all have been very soft.

1:00:42 Speaker 5: Remember when she gave Erica the panties after the PK s her vagina and she said, for your pretty little puss.

1:00:47 Speaker 3: Yes, get into it, girl. Okay, let me tell you something.

1:00:53 Speaker 2: Oh my god. So I'm I'm in a great place.

1:00:55 Speaker 4: And not be the episode title, Why am I dad? Pretty little person?

1:00:59 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have me.

1:01:01 Speaker 3: They're gonna have me censored and thrown off of the Apple. All the platforms gonna be like, you send this girl to the X rated.

1:01:07 Speaker 2: We don't know what that's about.

1:01:08 Speaker 3: We don't know what that We over here talking about Housewives right right. Any momentaryhea before we end our holiday, you know, situation, any moments that you like that really stood out to you this year in the Bravosphere or in our Housewives world that like, you know, we can kind of look remind people about us.

1:01:29 Speaker 2: They're doing their year and review.

1:01:34 Speaker 4: Moments that stood out.

1:01:36 Speaker 2: I mean, so many people have gotten divorced.

1:01:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, things have happened, people are doing jail.

1:01:45 Speaker 5: I will say, honestly, it is I know this is gonna sound like, what that's your favorite moment, But I'm just thinking from Potomac to that because you know that what that played, what didn't that play at the beginning of it?

1:01:59 Speaker 4: Wasn't that playing the beginning.

1:02:00 Speaker 5: Year I'll say, I love Candy Girl, So congratulations on Candice's having a baby, making the choice after she deliberated so long for having a baby because she didn't want to have a relationship like she has with her mother, you know, like all of the working through those things.

1:02:16 Speaker 4: I appreciated that. Also.

1:02:19 Speaker 5: I am sorry, but just watching Dread be who she is unabashedly.

1:02:28 Speaker 4: Yeah for the money or not.

1:02:30 Speaker 5: So often we as women, even women on these shows, they produce drama and not really be themselves. And the fact that she's just like it is what it is. I am appreciating that, whether it's for a check or not. I want she's owning her actions and how she feels. And I appreciate that, I really really do.

1:02:52 Speaker 2: I love that.

1:02:53 Speaker 3: I'm really excited for what's happening in the year ahead, and too all these you know housewives, I'm I I have never I haven't been satiated by housewives and so long, so long, so long, But like it's fire from all Clona's we got sat like cities doing its thing Potomac is doing its thing, and they just started their cast trip, and we have so much to go. I am very curious how this is gonna all play out.

1:03:19 Speaker 4: When you come on to our podcast, we'll be talking about that.

1:03:21 Speaker 3: Oh girl, We'll have so many updates by then. I cannot freaking wait. Okay, and I this year, I think, like what I didn't expect is to like that the end of Jersey would end the way that it did, and like that that cast.

1:03:36 Speaker 4: That's right, that's a good one.

1:03:37 Speaker 3: You would be at rails and you know, shout out to all of the content creators who all went to rails this year, and and to like kind of relive that moment. And yeah, like that pose off between Teresa and Melissa, it's kind of like the last moment we'll see them interact with each other on TV.

1:03:57 Speaker 2: And I'm glad about.

1:03:58 Speaker 3: It, but like, wow, well it really feels like the end of an era in a good way.

1:04:03 Speaker 4: And a good but and you know what's what's crazy. This was the first season.

1:04:07 Speaker 5: In a while that I enjoyed Jersey because I liked that they weren't making and I was like, I like the fact that they're not faking it let them not speak or let them do their little passive aggressive things when because this is who.

1:04:19 Speaker 4: They really are.

1:04:20 Speaker 5: Yeah, I want that too, And shout out to Melissa for her Sprink starting launching her Sprinkle Cookies line.

1:04:26 Speaker 2: Yeah.

1:04:26 Speaker 3: And my second favorite moment is Phadri's big return to Bravo and House Long this year. She's back on Atlanta, which is something I'm really excited about. In the new film she you know, she's doing her Married to You, did the Mariti medicine things, she was on Dancing with the Stars. She's on Traders, like the Traders, Like, it's a lot of good things happening.

1:04:45 Speaker 2: For my girl, Phadri.

1:04:46 Speaker 3: So I'm excited about Atlanta coming back next year in the twenty twenty five.

1:04:49 Speaker 2: That's something I'm looking forward to. The Traders. I'm looking forward to that. Like nobody's business.

1:04:54 Speaker 4: I try to get into it.

1:04:55 Speaker 3: I couldn't cry really hard, especially this season. I will say it's really it's really good. I think this season to be even better because we know so many people. It's if you can do it, it's worth going back to like season one or two, okay, because and those are like all over the place, celebrities, and it's like it wasn't just celebrities at the time, some regular people. They tweaked that since then and now it's like mainly only people that we know, just regular people, because that was something that felt awkward.

1:05:27 Speaker 3: But the second season is like, really when it got nail on the head, like Phaedra is really was that was a good season. But it's not the drama you would think, which is what makes it good. It doesn't rock your brain cells and you know you're overwhelmed, but it is so entertaining and intriguing that you're like, okay, but their personalities are.

1:05:46 Speaker 4: Still there, and they're all okay, They're all still.

1:05:50 Speaker 3: Very much there, like they are exactly who they are in moments of stress and so to.

1:05:56 Speaker 2: See the world's collide from other.

1:06:01 Speaker 3: And how they deal with stress and conflicts, like Phedra in a housewife situation yelling at Peter who would handle something differently in the bachelor house like it's like really, why okay, Like it's kind of crazy, or versus Burgie, who's from Survivor, like and how you hate something at like you know, tribal council like versus these different personalities, right,

1:06:25 Speaker 3: there is a level of big personality, even if it's in a quieter way, but it's still bigger than the average honey, this current upcoming cast, the personalities couldn't get bigger, okay, So it's it's worth it simply for whenever they send Tom Sandoval home. I can't wait for whoever decides to hate him. He's gonna crumble because they just they hate you for something that is not real, but it's real to them. But it's real to that part, okay, like you being a trader is actually the worst.

1:06:53 Speaker 2: It's all fictional. But also I get to really curse you out right terrible individual if that's what you are. Okay, all right, it'll be really wild.

1:07:02 Speaker 3: I think it's worth watching, especially before it comes back. I'm excited about that, and y'all I'm excited to continue getting into the mix and doing better.

1:07:10 Speaker 2: This was really a hard year for me. I have left the classroom.

1:07:18 Speaker 3: I had a very tumultuous year in the classroom last and a lot of very big health challenges, you know, where my wife and I really would love to have a family one day soon, and that is you know, taking a little bit more time, energy and investment of myself than we originally planned with the life that I was living, So you know, in that we're trying to make sure that the healthy things are happening. But that also means that I'll have more time to invest in myself, into my creativity and these things and have conversations with you guys.

1:07:58 Speaker 3: But we couldn't do that while we were also fighting the good fight in the classroom. But she's out of there and doing other things and it is excited for what the new year will bring. More updates on all of those things. To continue my holiday plans like this is the you know, the final episode of the twenty twenty four year, and my holiday plans include very much so hopefully me reading a book, very much so me, you know, rewatching some old episodes of something that brings me joy.

1:08:27 Speaker 2: Atlanta, Yeah, probably in three.

1:08:30 Speaker 3: Is always my go to too when you know everybody Apollo is a criminal. It's my favorite, but it's absolutely the best. And have and letting my big sister completely dote on me and while I go there for Christmas and do everything for me that I don't want to do for myself and have that time. Terria, how are you doing your holidays. Are you ready for your break? I hope you're taking a breaky break and the gonna be good to yourself and treat yourself to some Christmasy things.

1:09:00 Speaker 4: I think I'm going to take off tomorrow.

1:09:02 Speaker 5: Maybe my parents are flying in from My brother moved and his wife moved to New Orleans. I have a beautiful new nephew that's six weeks old. He's the most baby ever. So my parents went to see him, and then they'll be flying in tomorrow and they'll be here tomorrow evening, spending the night with us like they did last year, so they can wake up with us. I'm on Christmas, So I am blessed to have, you know, looking around a lot of my well, a lot my friends. You know, first started out Corey lost his dad and expectedly in twenty nineteen.

1:09:32 Speaker 5: I had a girlfriend lose her mom the following year, and then I have another girlfriend very close to me, just lost her dad earlier this year. So I have a lot of friends with one parent. So I'm really make sure that I take the time to appreciate the fact that I have my parents here. Yeah, and I always feel like if I'm not working, I'm missing money. Because I make my money by the days in that particular area, and so I have to remind myself.

1:10:00 Speaker 4: Mom will be like, stay home, I'll pay you.

1:10:02 Speaker 5: I'm gonna come see it, And I'm like, you don't have to pay me, because these moments are priceless and.

1:10:06 Speaker 4: The money will.

1:10:07 Speaker 2: Yeah.

1:10:08 Speaker 5: I'm looking forward and I'm looking forward to us being in our pro ja I got them. So my parents have matching pajama bottoms. Me Sky and Airy y'all have matching pajama bottoms, and then Big Corey and Little Corey have matching pajama bottoms. So I'm looking forward to putting on our pajama bottoms, putting on a T shirt. My girlfriend and her daughter will be here in their matching pajamas tomorrow night and we're gonna have hot chocolate and pizza and just chill out. On Christmas Eve and then Christmas Day, my other brother will be here and then we'll just be just around the house, laughing, talking, eating, watching TV.

1:10:40 Speaker 4: That's what I'm looking forward to. Yeah, and working on my.

1:10:44 Speaker 5: Content, still making sure, Yeah, and that's it. I'm really looking forward to that. And I did forget to say one thing that brought me joy. If y'all have not seen the video of Niini, Lenithia Leaks, and Kenya summer More running into each other good airport, I said, bravo, do your thing.

1:11:04 Speaker 4: The door is cracked with Ninia at NBC Universal.

1:11:08 Speaker 2: Do it.

1:11:09 Speaker 4: I need them back together. Oh good.

1:11:12 Speaker 5: One of my favorite seasons is I think it's when they all went to Savannah and they're in the house and Nini says, I'm gonna pour me and Kenya some wine and we're gonna cuss you out like I'm good. I think I might watch that episode.

1:11:24 Speaker 2: I love it.

1:11:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all, I'm gonna go eat my Wendy's.

1:11:28 Speaker 2: Listen, go eat your Wendy's. Take care of yourselves.

1:11:31 Speaker 3: Everybody, Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Marry Chris me what is it, Chris mahansa Kwanzica, whatever it is you should celebrate or if it's nothing at all, celebrate you. Celebrate this new year upcoming. Treat yourself. You are the only you that you will ever have to take care of, so do it right the first time. Take care of yourselves. Everybody, love you, Thank you so much for listening, and I can't wait to see you in twenty twenty five, or talk to you then. Oh, see y'all in the mix next year.

1:12:00 Speaker 3: Move you nowadays, Love you, Riya, Thank you so much for being here.

1:12:04 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, where did they find you?

1:12:08 Speaker 5: It's like we was on the phone and find me wherever. You listen to your podcast What Else Is going On?

1:12:13 Speaker 4: Podcast? Y'all, please please please come over to YouTube. I do videos. I try to do them daily.

1:12:18 Speaker 5: The last couple of days I haven't, but I do videos on all things pop culture, from the Deep Dives, the Diddy of it All to remy Ma and Pat Poos, so even the different things housewives are doing. If you go to YouTube, type in we go w E I g O podcast that stands for what Else is going On? You will find me. Please come over subscribe. We have so much fun. I love the community that we are cultivating over there. I'm on the threads, we go podcasts, I'm on Blue Sky we go podcast whatever whatever, Blue Sky, and I am back on Twitter.

1:12:50 Speaker 5: I left and then kind of was like, you know, for the business is really good to kind of.

1:12:54 Speaker 4: Still be over there. So you know I'm over there too, So y'all come find me and have fun with.

1:13:00 Speaker 3: Me, you know, where to find me at Mixing with Mindy on all the things m I x I, n G W T H M A N I and y'all please you know, for Christmas, leave a little review, let people know to find me again in the new year. Take care of yourselves. Merry Christmas, Happy holidays. Love you, babe,