For Legal Reasons…Love Island Reunion w/Elle Murasaki (@briefedbyelle)

0:24 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful wonderful mix ologists and y'all out there.

0:29 Speaker 1: It is your girl, Mony. You are in the mix, Honey,

0:32 Speaker 1: you're in the mix with MONI and I have the

0:36 Speaker 1: pop culture priestess. Oh my gosh, shout out to Alsa.

0:39 Speaker 1: Back in the day, from shots to sunset used to

0:41 Speaker 1: be yeah, the medsic death of y'all. Please okay, at Ross,

0:49 Speaker 1: please y'all bear with me. The meds have worn off

0:51 Speaker 1: and school is back in session, but it has been

0:54 Speaker 1: so much good stuff going on. I had to hop

0:56 Speaker 1: in l Marisaki's d MS immediately and be like, are

1:00 Speaker 1: you down to record about all this mess, specifically the

1:04 Speaker 1: love Islan reunion, and she was like, literally immediately, yes,

1:07 Speaker 1: let's do it. And so we're here because I can't

1:10 Speaker 1: not feel feelings about it and we got a chat.

1:14 Speaker 1: Soll welcome back, pleasantries, Luvey girl, welcome back. I didn't

1:21 Speaker 1: think we had two hours worth of information to go through.

1:24 Speaker 1: I was actually shot when I hit that play button

1:26 Speaker 1: it said two of them. Thanks, Oh my word. Would

1:30 Speaker 1: anybody even go together to be two hours? Told me nothing?

1:35 Speaker 1: Two hours forty eight minutes of this was going to

1:39 Speaker 1: be an email worthy conversation.

1:41 Speaker 2: Like yes and no, but I was mad at what

1:46 Speaker 2: we received, Like as an audience, I feel like we

1:50 Speaker 2: could have gotten better, right, Like we could have not

1:53 Speaker 2: talked to Bella and Hooko and all of them, and

1:57 Speaker 2: then we I could have seen get showed out.

2:01 Speaker 1: For the extended version, like we had stuff to fill

2:04 Speaker 1: the forty We did have time.

2:06 Speaker 3: It was just what we got. Sup.

2:08 Speaker 1: I would have liked to have talked to Jeremiah a

2:11 Speaker 1: little longer. I doubt we could have talked to Chris

2:12 Speaker 1: a little longer because I liked the way that was going.

2:15 Speaker 1: I was like, m hm, let's let's everybody get called

2:17 Speaker 1: over the roastick Coles. But yet we didn't. I don't

2:20 Speaker 1: think we prioritized a lot of our time because when

2:24 Speaker 1: I thought, oh shoot, we're getting in with Chris, we're

2:26 Speaker 1: gonna get started, we never went bad and we did

2:29 Speaker 1: pretty much a wrap and I was like, what, But

2:32 Speaker 1: there was so much they ended this show together. We

2:35 Speaker 1: really should talk about some of the things that we

2:37 Speaker 1: experienced on the show. And then why no one believed

2:42 Speaker 1: her because of like I can't even say her name

2:45 Speaker 1: right now. I will, but I can't right now why

2:49 Speaker 1: we believed her, especially considering no, Hilda Broomstick, I just

3:00 Speaker 1: I just want to stay up to please go girls, guys,

3:05 Speaker 1: dolls don't be here. If because I'm I'm actually going

3:10 Speaker 1: to warn people about y'all. If you are a Hood

3:13 Speaker 1: of supporter, I'm concerned for the public around you immediately. Yes,

3:20 Speaker 1: If still after the reunion you see it for her,

3:24 Speaker 1: I'm concerned for those or everything I thought about you

3:27 Speaker 1: was true. Alabama Barker, I'm looking at you. I Travis

3:31 Speaker 1: Barker's daughter. I'm like, oh, wow, that makes a lot

3:35 Speaker 1: of sense. And post reunion, I'm like, oh makes even

3:38 Speaker 1: more sense. Everything about her that is that's clocking.

3:43 Speaker 3: Fase to like give me thirty seconds. Okay, it was.

3:49 Speaker 1: Always going to be enough for me. When it came

3:51 Speaker 1: a hard no, was the Dingdong.

3:53 Speaker 2: Ditch situation on the stream right, and the black boys

3:56 Speaker 2: were telling her like if you were going to buy

4:00 Speaker 2: and immerse yourself in black culture things doing immerse yourself

4:06 Speaker 2: in things deeper than the superficial, right, like being black

4:11 Speaker 2: isn't about chains and laid edges and braids.

4:15 Speaker 1: And stuff like those are fun things that we get

4:17 Speaker 1: to experience because it's part of our culture. And yes,

4:19 Speaker 1: they have deeper roots.

4:21 Speaker 3: But like at this point, right five, nobody's getting their

4:24 Speaker 3: hair corn roll because my answer is that no, you're

4:26 Speaker 3: getting it because like a style and your hair can

4:28 Speaker 3: do that.

4:28 Speaker 1: Cool.

4:29 Speaker 2: But also part of you being a white person who

4:32 Speaker 2: decides to suitp your edges and get filler and do

4:35 Speaker 2: all the things that you recognize as black, it's.

4:38 Speaker 3: Also recognizing the black experience.

4:40 Speaker 2: These black boys are telling you it's not safe for

4:44 Speaker 2: them to do what you're asking them to do, and

4:46 Speaker 2: they're explaining it an explanation that they don't own your

4:49 Speaker 2: grown ass.

4:50 Speaker 3: There are tons of free libraries. You still chose not

4:53 Speaker 3: to listen.

4:53 Speaker 2: So that was one, and then it became a super

4:56 Speaker 2: hard no when she is talking about her black scent

5:00 Speaker 2: and she was like, oh, this is just how I

5:02 Speaker 2: grew up. I grew up around black people listening to

5:05 Speaker 2: black music like it was a typical white experience. Let's

5:09 Speaker 2: cut to around we met Alabama Barker as a artist, right, sure, yeah, yeah, I.

5:19 Speaker 1: Mean sure it was it not? Was it not?

5:23 Speaker 3: Carrie Underwood?

5:25 Speaker 1: Like, was it?

5:25 Speaker 3: You can't tell me that it's always been this when

5:28 Speaker 3: I've experienced you as something else?

5:33 Speaker 1: Also, where did you grow with what parent. I just

5:37 Speaker 1: let's start there, because I know your parents on there,

5:41 Speaker 1: You're not you can't. How are you going to say

5:44 Speaker 1: that to me when I literally know where you come from?

5:49 Speaker 1: A little black though, like she got it? Yeah, and

5:53 Speaker 1: that's very fair. Did I used to watch what was

5:56 Speaker 1: she on Hollywood Access?

5:58 Speaker 3: Yes?

6:00 Speaker 1: Oh girl, you know I'm in it. I've done my

6:02 Speaker 1: I've done my work. Okay, old school listen, Hollywood AXS eight. Anyways,

6:08 Speaker 1: that's another day. Yes, and your dad is like the

6:16 Speaker 1: man as White ye on TV. He's with the whitest

6:21 Speaker 1: sister of the white girls who try to be black,

6:25 Speaker 1: but he's literally with the one who is the most caucasi.

6:31 Speaker 3: Who's only with the one who ain't never had no

6:35 Speaker 3: black babies.

6:36 Speaker 1: He never tried to, doesn't want to. Bodie never went

6:41 Speaker 1: through the transition of trying to be never did. Like

6:46 Speaker 1: literally when the girls were getting their hips plucked out

6:49 Speaker 1: and clube, just try to tell you all of us

6:51 Speaker 1: from them squats in that photo shoot. Listen, I watched

6:54 Speaker 1: for data. Okay, was going there getting X ray, old

7:02 Speaker 1: girl was going gluten free, trying to get the excess

7:06 Speaker 1: body weight off her, going non deodorant, which is the

7:08 Speaker 1: least black thing you could ever do was going deodorant free,

7:13 Speaker 1: all things free. And then has been only sleeping with

7:18 Speaker 1: that white man from Fire Island, New York or whatever

7:22 Speaker 1: for the last four out of five kids, or three

7:27 Speaker 1: out of four or whatever number out of whatever number,

7:31 Speaker 1: and then like she takes on the full Like it's

7:38 Speaker 1: when when Chloe and Kim are in them are like,

7:40 Speaker 1: we're actually half Armenian. When you call them white women,

7:44 Speaker 1: We're actually half Armenian. Courtney's like yeah, She's just like, yeah,

7:50 Speaker 1: my mom's Dutch, So what are you talking aboutthing Like, actually, Alabama,

7:57 Speaker 1: when I watched the show, let me see what I experience.

7:59 Speaker 1: You look like the odd one out. Your tan literally

8:05 Speaker 1: rivals that of Kim's, who does aim who claims to

8:11 Speaker 1: be leaning in to the ethnicity that she does have

8:14 Speaker 1: the little bit And that's fine. Listen, I've never been

8:18 Speaker 1: to Babylon, Bethlehem, none of them, so I'm not here

8:21 Speaker 1: to tell you what the sun does to the people

8:24 Speaker 1: of her lands. But I will say it makes no

8:28 Speaker 1: sense to me that that lady who does try to

8:32 Speaker 1: replicate black culture has some Meloni. A teen seawing sea

8:37 Speaker 1: bed is still pale in comparison literally to that of

8:45 Speaker 1: this young hairy white woman Alabama. The marker in which

8:51 Speaker 1: I say to rap like to bring it back. If

8:55 Speaker 1: they're the level of delusion in that lady's brain that

8:58 Speaker 1: can present what Alabama. I hope y'all are looking it

9:01 Speaker 1: up right now, if you don't know what I'm talking about.

9:03 Speaker 1: If there's a level right now, yeah, if there's a

9:07 Speaker 1: level that can do that, it would make sense to

9:09 Speaker 1: me that not only would she be a Hilda supporter,

9:12 Speaker 1: but then she would say that the girls are all

9:16 Speaker 1: so jealous and that she will go far Joseph what

9:22 Speaker 1: First of all, I would say that no man on

9:26 Speaker 1: that couch wanted to be near her talk to her.

9:29 Speaker 1: Everybody she was sitting by herself. Chris was like, I

9:32 Speaker 1: am here because so I won't get fine, Like it's

9:35 Speaker 1: literally him, he basically said. My mama was like, Thank

9:38 Speaker 1: the Lord, the things worked out the way he did.

9:42 Speaker 1: They did. But I was kind of disappointed in Peacock,

9:46 Speaker 1: whoever produces that show, whatever, whatever, whatever, because if again,

9:51 Speaker 1: if y'all could find time to give a disaplaimant to

9:54 Speaker 1: acknowledge that you don't condone bullying as it pertained to

9:58 Speaker 1: everybody talking about Savannah's over plastic surgery face.

10:04 Speaker 3: Banna, right, that is what.

10:10 Speaker 1: Yes, if you had that, there should have been a

10:14 Speaker 1: moment for the coorgion that that Chris experience.

10:20 Speaker 2: And they did touch on it, right, like I'm I'm

10:23 Speaker 2: we have to be fair. They did touch on it.

10:25 Speaker 2: They did call it what it was by name. They

10:28 Speaker 2: didn't try to like sugarcoat it, you know. But again

10:32 Speaker 2: there was no firm like, hey, that fucked up. If

10:36 Speaker 2: you or anybody you know is going through that, like

10:38 Speaker 2: we are not here to normalize. That's what I kind

10:41 Speaker 2: of got from that scene that they already gave us

10:44 Speaker 2: something when it was Vana.

10:47 Speaker 3: Parents, because that's a lot of plastic.

10:50 Speaker 1: It is. You got the little note on the screen,

10:52 Speaker 1: who yo, daddy know it's given Taylor Swift okay, likes

10:57 Speaker 1: like circa back to Heidi Montag getting it way too early,

11:00 Speaker 1: way too and now it's she's you know, really growing

11:03 Speaker 1: into it.

11:06 Speaker 3: Or out of it because she took it out.

11:07 Speaker 1: But that also I hope she's, well I do, I

11:16 Speaker 1: think she's, you know, she's she's grown up a different way.

11:19 Speaker 1: Then I'm actually the least disappointed in her of some

11:23 Speaker 1: of the ways that some of those girlies could have

11:25 Speaker 1: gone and have Like Kristin, I'm looking at you. I'll

11:28 Speaker 1: be rooting for you, but damn disappoint me sometimes. Also,

11:32 Speaker 1: Jay Tyler is now doing time. Unfortunate her ex husband,

11:36 Speaker 1: Jay Cutler, he's going to be doing time for his

11:39 Speaker 1: d U. I yeah, so that's why Karen got out.

11:42 Speaker 1: They had to make rooms. Listen, listen, l try as

11:53 Speaker 1: I might, and y'all we are. I promise you we're

11:54 Speaker 1: gonna actually talk about the love I lai. But I'm

11:57 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out why Karen's getting released early,

12:00 Speaker 1: what the real reason is. Other than you have a theory,

12:04 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear it. I have a theory as well.

12:08 Speaker 1: In mine is based in absolutely nothing, but I love it.

12:11 Speaker 1: Let's go with it and you know, discuss it as

12:13 Speaker 1: if we have real bad research. But like, she's getting

12:16 Speaker 1: out September second, which is in a matter of days,

12:22 Speaker 1: she will be Yeah, she will be fully released this

12:28 Speaker 1: week and that's a great.

12:31 Speaker 3: House and rest or nothing.

12:32 Speaker 2: But however, she cannot obtain a license for like the

12:36 Speaker 2: next year or something. Yeah, yeah, but as long as

12:41 Speaker 2: she has a driver driver or like Uber money.

12:45 Speaker 3: She should be good.

12:46 Speaker 2: I mean she should have always been good, like there

12:48 Speaker 2: should have always been a driver. Yeah, have the money

12:51 Speaker 2: that Karen claims to have.

12:52 Speaker 1: I'm not driving anymore.

12:53 Speaker 3: I don't drive now because.

12:54 Speaker 1: I don't know imagine, okay, so is she.

13:02 Speaker 3: Rich?

13:04 Speaker 1: Yeah? You know how money works, and you know how

13:08 Speaker 1: and you know how the know how money works. I

13:15 Speaker 1: feel strongly that she does not want someone to track

13:18 Speaker 1: her movements and where she's going, which is why she

13:23 Speaker 1: does not take the Uber things because things can get released.

13:27 Speaker 1: I think Karen does think kylie of herself. Also, I

13:30 Speaker 1: think she would have a point because it's no Karen

13:33 Speaker 1: is enough to be like, I'm getting Karen Houger you

13:36 Speaker 1: know who that is, and then tell me where she's

13:38 Speaker 1: going and then that ends up with us.

13:42 Speaker 3: Because if they did shaw, they would do it. You're

13:46 Speaker 3: right about that now.

13:47 Speaker 1: I okay, I would listen. I would answer that DM.

13:50 Speaker 1: I would. My husband's sister is an Uber driver and

13:53 Speaker 1: she picked up Karen Huger and DuPont Circle and then

13:56 Speaker 1: like took her to a home. And but that's the

14:00 Speaker 1: But Karen lives in Great Falls. I have questions.

14:02 Speaker 3: No, no, I think though that.

14:08 Speaker 2: Again not back by any research. But I feel like

14:11 Speaker 2: if we started to pull a thread, we.

14:13 Speaker 1: Would get a little bit of a Tom Girardi situation

14:17 Speaker 1: over there with Rag. Oh you think that it has

14:22 Speaker 1: something to do with Ray that they're playing into, like

14:24 Speaker 1: rais not doing well without any.

14:26 Speaker 3: So you know how many works?

14:27 Speaker 2: You know, how expensive a mortgage would be, how expensive

14:30 Speaker 2: rent would be, the mind variety of which you said

14:32 Speaker 2: was probably least than it probably was.

14:35 Speaker 3: Nobody bit on the.

14:36 Speaker 1: Tourism part to her family's land out in Virginia, right,

14:40 Speaker 1: so whatever money was poured in there. Have you ever

14:44 Speaker 1: been to anybody's house and they're burning a grand dom candle?

14:48 Speaker 3: Three wick? Right?

14:49 Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't.

14:51 Speaker 2: Have you ever been out and smelled somebody and said

14:54 Speaker 2: they've you say, what are they wearing?

14:56 Speaker 3: They say, Ladam, Like.

14:57 Speaker 1: I forgot about that. She has both of those thing.

15:00 Speaker 2: Have you ever seen somebody's hair and been like they're

15:03 Speaker 2: so cute and they say, oh my.

15:05 Speaker 1: God, that's who Wow. Ella's reminding us?

15:08 Speaker 3: So what but like, listen, throw things at the wall.

15:11 Speaker 3: Be a business woman.

15:12 Speaker 1: That part I'm not downing her for, but I do

15:14 Speaker 1: mention that to say, we know how expensive those businesses

15:18 Speaker 1: are we know what the startup is. And again, if

15:20 Speaker 1: we are counting money out versus money in, where.

15:27 Speaker 3: Is it right?

15:28 Speaker 2: So that's the money thing, the out thing. And I

15:32 Speaker 2: don't wish still on anybody.

15:35 Speaker 1: But Ray didn't look okay when they were going through

15:39 Speaker 1: the trials. He did it.

15:43 Speaker 3: So my first thought when I said, when I saw

15:45 Speaker 3: September second, I said, oh my god, I hope Ray

15:49 Speaker 3: is okay.

15:49 Speaker 2: But also I felt like if she was getting some

15:52 Speaker 2: and maybe it was a condition of the release, but

15:54 Speaker 2: if she was getting some sort of early release due

15:57 Speaker 2: to family issues, wouldn't that have been noted in the

16:00 Speaker 2: court docs?

16:02 Speaker 1: I would think so. I just especially if there was

16:05 Speaker 1: any kind of petition or specific request for release, like

16:09 Speaker 1: from the judge, I feel like that would have been

16:11 Speaker 1: that was granted, we would know about it. But I

16:14 Speaker 1: genuinely feel like I think they were just like yeah,

16:18 Speaker 1: we you know, lesson learned like her year was it

16:21 Speaker 1: was two years of a sentence with one year suspended.

16:26 Speaker 1: If she's been there there six months, and I think

16:30 Speaker 1: that they're just like time serf, like whatever, like get yeah,

16:34 Speaker 1: like you get it. I don't think she does, but

16:38 Speaker 1: I do think this was humbling my question for everyone

16:42 Speaker 1: as we you know, see what our sites are for

16:45 Speaker 1: Karen Huger, which way do you think she's gonna go

16:48 Speaker 1: with this? Like? Is she gonna go Teresa Denial? I

16:51 Speaker 1: you know, just you know camp, but it was away

16:55 Speaker 1: I was away, or she's gonna go like lu Wayne,

16:57 Speaker 1: I've been to prison and she gonna be like, I'm

16:59 Speaker 1: about that life now now, don't play with me. I

17:01 Speaker 1: have been to jail. I think it's so. As soon

17:07 Speaker 1: as you said, which way is she gonna go? I said,

17:10 Speaker 1: when to cut you off? I do too. I think

17:17 Speaker 1: she's not gonna let these girls up. She's gonna be like,

17:19 Speaker 1: you don't understand. I've lived a life. She'll find a way.

17:25 Speaker 3: You know what. I think it's gonna get. It's gonna

17:29 Speaker 3: give Janet Jackson.

17:30 Speaker 2: And why did I get married to at the end

17:32 Speaker 2: after Malik Yoba pass?

17:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it, that's it. Shout out to Janet. It

17:42 Speaker 1: was when she had lost her brother and Tyler famously

17:46 Speaker 1: is like I didn't even have to tell her to

17:47 Speaker 1: do anything. She just did it. And I'm like, well, yeah, yeah.

17:53 Speaker 2: Jana Jackson, if you're listening, I say again, been a

17:57 Speaker 2: supersis since you were seven. You should have known better

17:59 Speaker 2: than they open up your mouth during a very crucial election,

18:02 Speaker 2: and somebody that you yourself said you didn't.

18:06 Speaker 3: Know r training to be in this post.

18:09 Speaker 1: Well, my brother said, what are you talking about? Why

18:14 Speaker 1: don't you say that you're grown? Sorry, I just think

18:18 Speaker 1: you would have make informed decisions. And I'm surrounded by

18:20 Speaker 1: poor decisions every day. Speaking of let's talk about the

18:24 Speaker 1: youthful people who make poor decisions in bikinis and dehydrated

18:30 Speaker 1: and had to all reunite together to talk about those decisions. Listen,

18:41 Speaker 1: let's start off off top with like the facts. Yeah,

18:46 Speaker 1: I don't even have to worry. We'll get to we'll

18:48 Speaker 1: get to the nitty gritty. But let's start with the facts,

18:51 Speaker 1: the big bullet points. Yes, Ace has short man syndrome

18:55 Speaker 1: and is a little bit.

18:58 Speaker 3: I disagree. Go you you I do.

19:01 Speaker 1: Did you see his interview today? I did, and I

19:04 Speaker 1: still disagree him talking about his friend's girl like that,

19:09 Speaker 1: or his girls girl like that, or maybe that's not

19:12 Speaker 1: his girl. I just don't believe that out of pockets

19:18 Speaker 1: see urry my issue. And it was a dis record,

19:22 Speaker 1: A it was, it was a dis record. I don't

19:25 Speaker 1: know who he was dissing, but like everybody but you

19:27 Speaker 1: was just mad and the mic was long, it was low,

19:30 Speaker 1: and you're little and you're upset about it, and that's okay.

19:34 Speaker 3: I loved it too.

19:36 Speaker 1: I thought it was a great song. I just also

19:38 Speaker 1: don't I think that anyone's sensitive about what Amaya did

19:41 Speaker 1: and her TikTok with Alex Cooper is not. You're fine

19:47 Speaker 1: and you were the ringleader and it's fine. I liked it.

19:49 Speaker 3: I do think. Okay, so I think that it was

19:56 Speaker 3: a dis record.

20:00 Speaker 1: It was, and he's like, didn't you release a dance record?

20:04 Speaker 1: He was like, it wasn't a dance record.

20:06 Speaker 3: It was a style and give you Andy for messing

20:11 Speaker 3: it up.

20:13 Speaker 2: I I think that Ace has the disease that Tamar

20:20 Speaker 2: used to have, like circa Tamar celebrity big brother when

20:24 Speaker 2: the Braxtons came on, and that is they both suffer

20:27 Speaker 2: from your saying the right thing at the wrong time.

20:30 Speaker 3: Itis.

20:32 Speaker 1: Okay, okay.

20:34 Speaker 2: I do believe that Nick probably had that conversation with him.

20:38 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I do.

20:40 Speaker 2: And we can go into like it gives lust, it

20:45 Speaker 2: gives attractiveness. I just personally don't see love. You don't

20:48 Speaker 2: have to show it to me.

20:48 Speaker 3: Though, like whatever, get your get your endorsements.

20:51 Speaker 2: I don't think that he needed to say that on

20:54 Speaker 2: that podcast, And I think that's the mistake that a

20:56 Speaker 2: lot of these people who were thrown into these situation

21:00 Speaker 2: and then thrust into being famous and now they're one

21:02 Speaker 2: big podcasts with big megaphones.

21:05 Speaker 3: You don't have to say all of that.

21:07 Speaker 2: Some of that should have been said in private. As

21:09 Speaker 2: it pertains to Amaya, I do.

21:12 Speaker 3: Understand the no be as loud about the apology as

21:16 Speaker 3: you were about the fuck up.

21:18 Speaker 2: If you did something and you realized the clip was

21:21 Speaker 2: wrong and you had a phone call for me, just

21:24 Speaker 2: as loud and as viral as that clip was, so

21:27 Speaker 2: did genropology. I stand on that, Yeah, and I totally

21:31 Speaker 2: understand that. I think you're not that sensitive. I don't

21:33 Speaker 2: think you were really hurt by it.

21:35 Speaker 1: I think you just wanted to have something to address

21:37 Speaker 1: somebody about at the reunion. I don't think he was

21:40 Speaker 1: heard about being called short. I don't because he addressed

21:43 Speaker 1: it nonchalanti earlier, like we can play at solo jokes

21:45 Speaker 1: and then he's like I just feel like, yeah, because

21:48 Speaker 1: she apologized to you and quiet that is like now

21:51 Speaker 1: I can say you need to stand on it, you

21:52 Speaker 1: need to stand on business. He just needs to be right,

21:55 Speaker 1: and it's just needs to hear himself preach. And that

21:57 Speaker 1: is like, my, I can't like you just you're twenty

22:01 Speaker 1: three and you want to be a pastor and I

22:03 Speaker 1: need you to calm down. His always stimonious singing and Quad,

22:08 Speaker 1: you know, and I do love Quad, So I do understand,

22:11 Speaker 1: and I don't like Ace. I just feel like he

22:14 Speaker 1: always needs to be right, and I'm like, you're not

22:17 Speaker 1: always and that's okay, and it's okay that you don't

22:22 Speaker 1: know everything. I think he's very insecure about how young

22:25 Speaker 1: he is. I really do hear that. Yes, he needs Yeah,

22:30 Speaker 1: he needs like people. He doesn't want people to discredit

22:34 Speaker 1: him and how smart and wise he is, how mature

22:37 Speaker 1: he is because of his age or because of his height,

22:40 Speaker 1: or because of his this, or because he already met

22:43 Speaker 1: you know, Shelley before or whatever. Like, he doesn't want

22:45 Speaker 1: people to discredit And I understand that, but you can't

22:49 Speaker 1: like dictate and narrate someone's experience and how they're handling

22:53 Speaker 1: it based on only your criteria. And all season long,

22:57 Speaker 1: he applied his criteria to everybody and every situation and

23:04 Speaker 1: then people and he also I know he knew that

23:08 Speaker 1: one Taylor is a weak minded individual, and that he

23:11 Speaker 1: knew that these boys were listening to him. So and

23:14 Speaker 1: for him to adamantly be like, I wasn't the ring leader. No,

23:17 Speaker 1: He's like, I just feel like I have a big presence. No,

23:20 Speaker 1: you can't say what it really is. It's like, no,

23:22 Speaker 1: but I feel like, you know, I had a lot

23:23 Speaker 1: of sway. You can't say that I had good ideas.

23:26 Speaker 1: And he wasn't wrong in a lot of those things.

23:28 Speaker 1: But he had me and tell me that you weren't

23:31 Speaker 1: actively knowing that you had those nigga's ears. You had

23:35 Speaker 1: those boys ear. I watched them just nod and listen.

23:38 Speaker 1: Every day. Ace was asking people's plans ideas, what are

23:42 Speaker 1: you doing? I think you should do this, I think

23:43 Speaker 1: you should do this. He was directing, and he was

23:45 Speaker 1: not wrong about a lot of it. The only thing

23:48 Speaker 1: all season that I even had an issue with him,

23:50 Speaker 1: literally was how he treated a Maya. That was it,

23:54 Speaker 1: and I felt a little like aggravated that. I'm like,

23:58 Speaker 1: I don't think you were that annoyed about the tick.

24:00 Speaker 1: I think you wanted to have something for hurd upon

24:02 Speaker 1: us to you four because this girl basically one off

24:04 Speaker 1: the strength of you being an asshole? Are it really

24:07 Speaker 1: was nothing more than you won the people's vote because

24:11 Speaker 1: I was rude to a woman and that's it. And

24:14 Speaker 1: now he's like got his lick back in a way

24:17 Speaker 1: and not like in a revengeful way. I don't think

24:19 Speaker 1: he's like that, but I do think that he thrives

24:22 Speaker 1: off of being able to correct or write something like

24:26 Speaker 1: to be able to be like I need to be

24:28 Speaker 1: able to and I just like, okay.

24:30 Speaker 3: But I came here for love teachable moment. It's like

24:33 Speaker 3: he's in his twenty three teach me.

24:35 Speaker 1: What rust it down?

24:37 Speaker 3: Oh for sure?

24:39 Speaker 1: Seconds out the door. He's in his own like one

24:44 Speaker 1: man show. Every time he talks you hear the spot

24:47 Speaker 1: like shift I was a young war his own TV show.

24:53 Speaker 1: He's given Manteo or like Caramo. I to see it, yes, always, yeah,

24:59 Speaker 1: I did for a future Monte real bad and I'm

25:06 Speaker 1: okay with that. I'm watch you know, and I would

25:11 Speaker 1: watch it absolutely. I watched the A show. I mean,

25:13 Speaker 1: I hope it starts with his back to us, and

25:16 Speaker 1: I love that he is And again Okay, so that's

25:19 Speaker 1: my thing. I don't disagree. Okay, I don't disagree that

25:24 Speaker 1: Nick maybe had this conversation with Ace. I think Ace

25:28 Speaker 1: is not confused about his timing though I think that

25:30 Speaker 1: even I say the right thing wrong time. I think

25:32 Speaker 1: he's very aware of what his timing is and that

25:35 Speaker 1: is why he is saying it. He is not very satisfied,

25:37 Speaker 1: though he acts mature. I see an insecure twenty three

25:41 Speaker 1: year old who is upset that he does not have

25:43 Speaker 1: the center of attention all the time. Him and Shelley

25:45 Speaker 1: should have been in the top two or three. I

25:47 Speaker 1: think that, I really do think that they were. They

25:50 Speaker 1: did it for love. They looked like, I don't care

25:51 Speaker 1: if they knew each other or whatever. I think that

25:53 Speaker 1: he thinks that too, and he is very upset that

25:56 Speaker 1: he didn't because he really played his cards right and

25:59 Speaker 1: he should have and they were trying to say that

26:01 Speaker 1: about him. And I also think that's okay. Strategy is

26:04 Speaker 1: fine in these situations. I love, are you the one?

26:07 Speaker 1: It's fine. You can play for love and still try

26:09 Speaker 1: to get money. That's the whole gay. So like, I

26:12 Speaker 1: like that he and her did that, and I do

26:14 Speaker 1: think he believes that, but he also smells his own

26:16 Speaker 1: shit so much that he is just like a little

26:19 Speaker 1: annoyed that we're all talking about Nicolandria, even now when

26:25 Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I get it, they're great, but like,

26:28 Speaker 1: also the other beautiful Barbie that everyone loves. Everybody's talking

26:32 Speaker 1: about either Nicolandria or Shelley and Alandria, and no one's

26:35 Speaker 1: talking about Shelley and Ace. And I don't think that

26:38 Speaker 1: he loves that.

26:40 Speaker 3: I don't think that he loves that, and I think

26:41 Speaker 3: it and.

26:43 Speaker 1: That's what I feel like. He had to neutralize Nicolandry

26:46 Speaker 1: and be like, well, you know, you're not even not

26:47 Speaker 1: attracted her. He told me, like, okay, that's like what

26:50 Speaker 1: my third graders do. I've heard him be like, well

26:52 Speaker 1: you not even.

26:52 Speaker 3: Like her, That's true. It was immature. Again, I just

26:57 Speaker 3: think I think that you can't do.

27:02 Speaker 2: Nothing about the fact that you have people's ears. I

27:04 Speaker 2: think there's a connotation with Ringleader, and for me, that's

27:08 Speaker 2: why I don't connect him to Ringleader.

27:10 Speaker 3: He did have some people's ears.

27:12 Speaker 1: I'm not doing because I think he was intentional. I

27:15 Speaker 1: just don't put nothing past nobody. And even though I

27:17 Speaker 1: don't think he did it, he's too young to be.

27:21 Speaker 1: I think he realized he had it and he could

27:23 Speaker 1: use it. I don't think. I do think he is smart,

27:26 Speaker 1: smarter than this.

27:27 Speaker 3: Okay, this, this is this is the part that I

27:29 Speaker 3: disagree on. I don't think that it was intentional in

27:33 Speaker 3: that I'm going to come in here and do this.

27:35 Speaker 3: I think it.

27:39 Speaker 1: He's a sports player, his dad is a coach, like

27:43 Speaker 1: I think I see that as their form of communication

27:47 Speaker 1: in this way, I think he knew. I don't think

27:54 Speaker 1: he would use that word, but I'm like, okay, so

27:57 Speaker 1: let's argue.

28:00 Speaker 3: So semantics, I'll give you.

28:02 Speaker 1: Let's argue the words. But I think that's what he was.

28:05 Speaker 1: And used a different word he would not have fallen

28:08 Speaker 1: back as hard, but ringleader was what the internet used.

28:11 Speaker 1: And he's like that, I didn't come trying to do

28:14 Speaker 1: that semantics.

28:17 Speaker 3: I think the other side of that is the other

28:21 Speaker 3: side of that coin is twofolk number one, boom thumbs down.

28:26 Speaker 3: You know, you ace more than anybody know exactly what

28:31 Speaker 3: Shelley and Orlandria were going through online and are and

28:37 Speaker 3: went through and currently going and you're one of them.

28:40 Speaker 3: Just you you know more than anybody what that is.

28:45 Speaker 3: Only speaking on them.

28:48 Speaker 1: Two specific Black women should be their beautiful. They deserve

28:51 Speaker 1: everything in the world and the.

28:54 Speaker 3: Period.

28:55 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see Nick kiss his feet again,

28:57 Speaker 1: like that's all that you should have said. We deserve love.

29:02 Speaker 2: However, what I think we are witnessing, Yes, you're right,

29:07 Speaker 2: young twenty three year old feelings hurt.

29:10 Speaker 3: But we've seen this play out in reality TV before.

29:13 Speaker 2: We've seen other housewives not be able to fully connect

29:16 Speaker 2: with the fact that like, oh, you're making a shut

29:19 Speaker 2: So I think there is this little bit of knowledge

29:23 Speaker 2: that Ace has of what's happened behind camera or what

29:26 Speaker 2: was edited out conversations that may have even been said

29:29 Speaker 2: on camera right, but then didn't make it to us

29:33 Speaker 2: the general public. And I think because he's young, because

29:36 Speaker 2: his feelings are hurt, he doesn't know how to navigate that.

29:40 Speaker 2: I don't think it's necessarily like fuck it, like no,

29:44 Speaker 2: I think he just is a kid.

29:46 Speaker 1: He's a person who can't not have the last word.

29:48 Speaker 1: And I can don't know if that's immaturity or that's

29:51 Speaker 1: just his personality. So he'll be like that at forty five,

29:53 Speaker 1: and it'll be even more insufferable when he's an every

29:56 Speaker 1: math on our TV screens, because this man is never

29:59 Speaker 1: going on. I've been following him for two years, so

30:02 Speaker 1: I have always liked his content, and I've always thought

30:05 Speaker 1: that he is really good at content creation, which is

30:09 Speaker 1: why I had no issue with him content creating basically

30:12 Speaker 1: in producing half the season. I just think that he

30:15 Speaker 1: saw an opportunity and tried to go with it, and

30:18 Speaker 1: I think that's fine, but it was also it was

30:20 Speaker 1: a reason for why people who really love watching Love

30:22 Speaker 1: Island and really liked season six thought that this season

30:26 Speaker 1: went as good because of how vocal he was in

30:30 Speaker 1: other people's relationships whatever you want to call it, and

30:34 Speaker 1: yet heavy producing and we don't like to see it

30:37 Speaker 1: because we already know it's happening. We don't need to

30:39 Speaker 1: see it. Oh on time, right, and so like that

30:42 Speaker 1: was like annoying. So for him to try to like

30:44 Speaker 1: shake that blame and then be like, I don't like

30:47 Speaker 1: he still doesn't like the edit that he got at

30:48 Speaker 1: the reunion, or he feels like he's explained away something

30:53 Speaker 1: enough and it didn't air, and so now he has

30:56 Speaker 1: to continue to being like, you missed the part where

30:58 Speaker 1: I explained blah blah blah, which again could be aged like,

31:02 Speaker 1: I'm fine, that's a twenty three years own thing. It's

31:05 Speaker 1: just something that I don't have to participate from. From

31:07 Speaker 1: a straight little black man, I just don't. I don't

31:09 Speaker 1: have and I don't like I'm just a word sexual

31:14 Speaker 1: laying a little too long, and the way y'all like men,

31:16 Speaker 1: and the way they be treating y'all looking like this.

31:19 Speaker 3: And it acting like it's crazy to me. I really

31:23 Speaker 3: I would have.

31:23 Speaker 1: Texted this man after the interview dropped today and been like, so,

31:27 Speaker 1: baby boy, it's gonna have to be you know, Cash,

31:31 Speaker 1: we'll see each other.

31:32 Speaker 3: And they're villa this season, like.

31:38 Speaker 1: We just go and go follow Nicolandria back at home apparently,

31:41 Speaker 1: and the mom's hanging out, and I'm here for the

31:44 Speaker 1: moms hanging out, Like I want to see the mom,

31:48 Speaker 1: want to see Nicolandria go the way of Cameron and

31:52 Speaker 1: Lauren from season one of Love is Blind.

31:54 Speaker 3: I want them to have all of the things like just.

31:59 Speaker 1: Which, by the way, they did look much more connected

32:01 Speaker 1: during and I know he saw it. He saw the

32:04 Speaker 1: reunion and just didn't like the edit. And that's fine,

32:08 Speaker 1: but so neither did Hooda. And I'm gonna give the

32:11 Speaker 1: exact same like fervor, then I am about to give

32:15 Speaker 1: Hooda because she too is a woman who watched the

32:21 Speaker 1: things and felt like she may have manipulated it in

32:24 Speaker 1: her mind better than what was portrayed, and now she

32:28 Speaker 1: is here to be like, no, you will not see

32:31 Speaker 1: it the way that it was shown. You will see

32:33 Speaker 1: it the way I explained it and accepted in my

32:36 Speaker 1: mind that it went okay. And that is what we're

32:39 Speaker 1: here to do with the Hooda is revision, is history

32:42 Speaker 1: down and when she forgets details or doesn't have a

32:44 Speaker 1: further concept for us to bite instead of the reality

32:50 Speaker 1: that we witnessed, which she hasn't had a full fleshed idea,

32:53 Speaker 1: she just goes and it's over. We're moving on. Y'all

32:58 Speaker 1: are happy, right like it Just be happy. And you know,

33:02 Speaker 1: I've grown so much Andy in a month, You've grown

33:06 Speaker 1: in a month. So since a month since rapping, you've

33:10 Speaker 1: grown and mature.

33:11 Speaker 3: Uh huh.

33:11 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I'm done. I'm just saying I've

33:14 Speaker 1: done so much growth. So I don't even apologize because

33:17 Speaker 1: I've grown.

33:19 Speaker 3: Because that's grown.

33:20 Speaker 1: That's not I can't I can't give you that apology

33:23 Speaker 1: for her because she's not here.

33:25 Speaker 3: If she was here, can't give it to you. But

33:27 Speaker 3: she's not. So like, I also want everybody.

33:31 Speaker 2: On this show and then every other show to shut

33:35 Speaker 2: the fuck up about things that weren't there, right, Like,

33:38 Speaker 2: if you don't get.

33:39 Speaker 1: That edit also, I don't break it to At this point,

33:42 Speaker 1: I'm almost believe you.

33:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It doesn't matter, It doesn't.

33:46 Speaker 3: What matters is what we saw.

33:49 Speaker 2: If you can't talk about that, if you can't speak

33:52 Speaker 2: to that, if you can't break that down and dissect that,

33:56 Speaker 2: then actually shut up.

33:58 Speaker 3: Go do a photo shoot, Go dor instagraart commercial, fill

34:01 Speaker 3: your day with something else.

34:02 Speaker 1: Sign autographs with.

34:05 Speaker 3: Cameos with Sonya Morgan. I don't care you see did

34:12 Speaker 3: you hear that?

34:14 Speaker 1: So we're living house the townhouse says I thought it

34:17 Speaker 1: was sold. I'm so sad for her it did.

34:19 Speaker 3: I thought it did sell.

34:20 Speaker 1: And that's oh, I don't know it.

34:25 Speaker 3: It's not her sober.

34:26 Speaker 1: It's just very you know, it was a very natural

34:31 Speaker 1: next step.

34:33 Speaker 3: I do. I would love to know was her husband

34:37 Speaker 3: ex husband's lawyers just that good?

34:42 Speaker 1: Yeah?

34:44 Speaker 3: Like why did I just watch Sonya Morgan on a

34:47 Speaker 3: girls trip legacy?

34:48 Speaker 2: Like give me Shannon Bador energy, Yeah, and say that

34:54 Speaker 2: she was like sleeping on people's couches because she didn't

34:56 Speaker 2: have like yeah, and then we know she was water

35:00 Speaker 2: off and stuff like.

35:01 Speaker 1: That, especially with an infidelity clause, you know, especially when

35:05 Speaker 1: you marry into JP Morgan Chase Bank and he's what

35:11 Speaker 1: the Morgan, He's the Morgan and the JP Morgan. That's

35:15 Speaker 1: why Carol and you didn't even make it again ten years. Carol,

35:18 Speaker 1: you lucky you've got the house. In fact, you probably

35:21 Speaker 1: should have taken it from you would have done you

35:22 Speaker 1: a favor. Anyways, I have been in a minute because

35:26 Speaker 1: that level of delusion, and like it's like funn because

35:29 Speaker 1: I can at least excuse a lot of these people's

35:31 Speaker 1: bad behavior with like the oldest person on Love Island

35:34 Speaker 1: is like what twenty eight now, Shelley, Yeah, Like and

35:37 Speaker 1: she just turned twenty two three days ago.

35:39 Speaker 3: It's like, you have a reason.

35:41 Speaker 1: I have a reason that what are these other ladies

35:44 Speaker 1: excuses at forty plus? Okay, you just said it's giving

35:48 Speaker 1: quad and Quad has not been twenty three when we

35:51 Speaker 1: met her, Okay at all?

35:53 Speaker 2: I know I could have saying that the one that

35:57 Speaker 2: really just like stood out to me with her laughing

35:59 Speaker 2: at the montage of.

36:00 Speaker 3: Herself but then saying that she's sorry she had grown

36:05 Speaker 3: so much. And so at no point in your growth

36:10 Speaker 3: did you.

36:12 Speaker 2: Like or your healing didn't tell you to like look

36:14 Speaker 2: back at that and you don't see that and go like, wow,

36:17 Speaker 2: that was gross. I can't believe that that was me, Like,

36:19 Speaker 2: oh my god, God, sorry I put you through that

36:21 Speaker 2: that would insinuate growth. So I want to know who

36:25 Speaker 2: the therapist is so that we can report them.

36:27 Speaker 1: There isn't one. I want to say this because y'all

36:32 Speaker 1: know I'd be saying this on the show a lot,

36:34 Speaker 1: and so when that happens, I'd be real sensitive to it.

36:37 Speaker 1: And it is a superpower that I did not ask

36:39 Speaker 1: for of mine. So I'm just going to start with

36:42 Speaker 1: and give the disclaimer of the only thing I'm going

36:44 Speaker 1: to talk about with Hooda is the Shelley and Landria

36:47 Speaker 1: of it all, because yes, her personality and mental health

36:51 Speaker 1: is not really that of concern of mine. Because let

36:54 Speaker 1: me just say this, and I'm gonna leave it here

36:55 Speaker 1: and put a period on it. I'm very sensitive to

36:59 Speaker 1: narcissists of all kinds because I was raised by a

37:02 Speaker 1: narcissistic parent. When you were raised by a narcissistant parent

37:06 Speaker 1: and you were raised in a household with a narcissist,

37:08 Speaker 1: it is almost like the language that they speak, the

37:10 Speaker 1: words that they use, the tenor the tone. It could

37:12 Speaker 1: be male, female, whatever gender they want to subscribe to,

37:16 Speaker 1: whatever personality, whatever background, doesn't matter. It is a language

37:22 Speaker 1: that they all speak in children. You could be married

37:25 Speaker 1: to a narcissist. My mama sometimes sensitive to is sometimes not.

37:28 Speaker 1: She's happy and healed, she can heal. But when you

37:31 Speaker 1: are a child of one, it is embedded in the fabric,

37:34 Speaker 1: genetic coating of your skin, and it makes it crawl

37:38 Speaker 1: anytime you hear the same language. I have had a

37:41 Speaker 1: problem with hed all season long. This reunion was inredibly

37:46 Speaker 1: hard to get through. Literally I had to ask my

37:49 Speaker 1: wife can I fast forward for a second and she

37:52 Speaker 1: can watch it later? And she did because I was

37:54 Speaker 1: so triggered by her performers the entire reunion about by

37:58 Speaker 1: that time we got that the Latin you it was

38:00 Speaker 1: an hour and thirty two minutes. That's when the package

38:03 Speaker 1: of her started. Because that's when I was like, I

38:05 Speaker 1: can't do it anymore, and I had to take two

38:08 Speaker 1: plufs of my happy Addy. That's a business. It's not failing. Okay,

38:14 Speaker 1: that's a happy Jersey.

38:16 Speaker 3: But he is trying trying, right, Yeah, actually I think

38:20 Speaker 3: I'm trying some growers.

38:22 Speaker 1: And yes, guess because I know he went up to

38:26 Speaker 1: Philly or something. He had an event the same day

38:30 Speaker 1: of Spacey Stacy in Virginia, even though she said she

38:36 Speaker 1: wasn't going to start a company. But that's of course,

38:38 Speaker 1: and she did not advertise it until the day of

38:41 Speaker 1: My wife actually got an email from the Virginia Dispensaries

38:47 Speaker 1: because she's a Virginia license holder. And it was not

38:50 Speaker 1: I didn't even see it on Homegos Instagram yet it

38:54 Speaker 1: was a pop up yeah no, yeah, so it did

38:56 Speaker 1: not The word was not supposed to get out when

38:58 Speaker 1: it did, so that was interesting. Came to see how

39:01 Speaker 1: that plays out on the season. Yeah, I have to,

39:04 Speaker 1: And I want to tell you about the conversation that

39:07 Speaker 1: I had with one doctor one day when that happened,

39:09 Speaker 1: when I'm no longer on record boom, Okay, so yeah,

39:20 Speaker 1: I took two mouths of that Happy Eddie because I

39:22 Speaker 1: needed to calm down and she had to watch it

39:25 Speaker 1: without me. It was really hard for me to get through.

39:28 Speaker 1: So I will just say that in regards to Shelley

39:31 Speaker 1: and Orlandria, if you were a friend of theirs, they

39:33 Speaker 1: shouldn't have to ask you to deter people's racism or

39:38 Speaker 1: at least be like this is bad. Don't do that

39:40 Speaker 1: at the very least. And if that is something that

39:45 Speaker 1: flew over your head and you just didn't, it didn't

39:47 Speaker 1: clock for you. When they do bring it up to you,

39:50 Speaker 1: the response can simply be I wish I had done more,

39:52 Speaker 1: and I'm sorry you're feeling that way, and now I

39:55 Speaker 1: am also experiencing racism. Because let me tell you something

39:58 Speaker 1: we're not gonna do is monopolize the experience that people

40:01 Speaker 1: who were Palestinian are going through right now via social media,

40:06 Speaker 1: via the internet, the news, or the erasure of what

40:09 Speaker 1: they're going through via social media, the internet or the

40:11 Speaker 1: news at the same time where people had to look

40:15 Speaker 1: up what you are and didn't have to to cut

40:20 Speaker 1: faces of your co stars off and put them on

40:24 Speaker 1: the bodies of animals, various animals. Okay, so again, if

40:31 Speaker 1: at looking at one person, we can cut and paste

40:35 Speaker 1: and start an entire memeable smear campaign and all these

40:39 Speaker 1: things and let it be. Then that can also be

40:42 Speaker 1: something like, yo, you know what I am actually because

40:46 Speaker 1: I'm all in fact, I'll give you the narcissist apology

40:49 Speaker 1: like I do for my dad. You know what I'm

40:53 Speaker 1: experiencing me because I've been experiencing racism in a new

40:57 Speaker 1: way since this show aired. I really actually can't even

41:00 Speaker 1: imagine what you guys have been going through because it

41:03 Speaker 1: has been really rough and brutal for me. And so

41:06 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I didn't say or do more because I

41:09 Speaker 1: would have definitely wanted that support to and so me

41:12 Speaker 1: not giving it, I'm sorry. That's how I spoon feed

41:15 Speaker 1: it to my father, sold and interesting.

41:21 Speaker 3: I didn't have a narcissist dick parent, but I had

41:25 Speaker 3: a grandmother.

41:26 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Grandparents are also hard.

41:28 Speaker 3: I've heard, and like you said, it it is embedded.

41:34 Speaker 3: It's something that when.

41:35 Speaker 1: You hear that, it's the language, it's the way they

41:39 Speaker 1: put the words together. I call it on a string

41:44 Speaker 1: because they are so it's so carefully done that you're

41:47 Speaker 1: just like, I don't hell, yep, how what I'm feeling

41:51 Speaker 1: what you're saying.

41:54 Speaker 2: Why most of them have what I referred to as

41:57 Speaker 2: the narcissistic smirt. Grandmother would do this thing where what

42:02 Speaker 2: was getting ready to be said was going to be

42:04 Speaker 2: so out of pocket, and it's like without getting to like,

42:08 Speaker 2: that's the part that makes me feel like it's a

42:10 Speaker 2: spirit and not necessarily just like this is who you are.

42:15 Speaker 2: Because that little smirking everybody does it. It's almost like involuntary.

42:20 Speaker 2: It's almost like that you can't even control it. Or

42:23 Speaker 2: if I told you you just did it, you'd be like, no,

42:25 Speaker 2: I didn't you know what I mean?

42:26 Speaker 1: Yes? Or they I know they've learned how to use

42:29 Speaker 1: that tick, their facial tick in a different way because

42:32 Speaker 1: my dad his turns into a he starts to either

42:37 Speaker 1: cry or get like it but it's not real. But

42:40 Speaker 1: the smirk ers to a frown real quick, and it's

42:42 Speaker 1: like and as a child who doesn't want to disappoint

42:45 Speaker 1: their parent, you can imagine it's big impact when it

42:49 Speaker 1: goes from right and you're like whoa and so yeah,

42:54 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, go ahead.

42:55 Speaker 2: No, my mine would go from like listening and receiving

42:59 Speaker 2: what you have to say, then that little smirk would happen,

43:02 Speaker 2: and then it would be no, I can't believe you

43:06 Speaker 2: would sit.

43:06 Speaker 1: Here and make that up.

43:09 Speaker 3: And in front of your mother. Nonetheless, you're going to

43:11 Speaker 3: sit here and just fabricate this whole story.

43:18 Speaker 1: Anyway.

43:19 Speaker 3: Trauma to the side.

43:22 Speaker 2: The difference, I do believe because a lot of people

43:24 Speaker 2: have been in my comments like, well, Shelley and Landria

43:27 Speaker 2: didn't say anything in support of hutt It and she

43:29 Speaker 2: was experiencing racism.

43:31 Speaker 1: What's happening and Guza is horrible. I think we can

43:37 Speaker 1: agree on that. And if we can't agree on that,

43:39 Speaker 1: you scare me get away, right. I think that.

43:45 Speaker 2: The way that the US is funding and helping to

43:49 Speaker 2: support this erasure of people and land is absolutely disgusting.

43:55 Speaker 1: Nobody deserves that. My heart breaks for the people who

43:58 Speaker 1: live there every day, whether it's there or or you

44:00 Speaker 1: live it here as somebody who has this direct family.

44:03 Speaker 1: They're heartbreaking all of the things.

44:07 Speaker 3: Right.

44:08 Speaker 2: The hate that happens in that is not the same.

44:13 Speaker 2: And I I hate to even make it sound like

44:15 Speaker 2: you're trying to compare trauma, right, but.

44:17 Speaker 3: Everybody's like, well, Landria and Shelley didn't do anything.

44:20 Speaker 2: It's not it's not mutually exclusive, right, Like they're putting

44:25 Speaker 2: Landria's space on George Floyd.

44:27 Speaker 3: This black man who should still be here, this black

44:29 Speaker 3: man who called the cops for himself. This is the girl.

44:33 Speaker 1: You get it. You get it yet that I know

44:37 Speaker 1: you get it. I don't think you're confused exactly.

44:41 Speaker 3: You definitely understand.

44:42 Speaker 1: You understand the gravity and the magnitude of both.

44:46 Speaker 3: Period speaking out.

44:47 Speaker 2: One is speaking out directly to people who are directly

44:51 Speaker 2: doing something to Shelley and Orlandria, and another one is

44:54 Speaker 2: speaking out about a situation, or in support of a

44:57 Speaker 2: situation or the lack of support of a situation. They're

44:59 Speaker 2: two differferent things, both extremely heavy, but they're two different things.

45:03 Speaker 2: And because there are two different things, we're addressing the

45:06 Speaker 2: thing that Landria asked for and that Hood has said

45:09 Speaker 2: that she would give, not on a podcast, not on

45:12 Speaker 2: a space where people can say, oh, I don't watch that.

45:14 Speaker 3: I didn't know about that. She asked them to her

45:17 Speaker 3: to directly make a post. And I have not seen

45:22 Speaker 3: one thing.

45:22 Speaker 2: I can't speak to somebody's feelings. How somebody something made

45:25 Speaker 2: you feel is just that how it made you feel.

45:27 Speaker 2: I can't see that. I can't police that for you, okay,

45:30 Speaker 2: But what I can say is that I have not

45:32 Speaker 2: seen racism spewed at Hudda by fans of Shelley and Landria.

45:42 Speaker 1: Neither has Hudda, thank you, she hasn't either. Then that's

45:47 Speaker 1: just you know what we're talking about, Hudda. You can

45:49 Speaker 1: be experiencing the worst of it. And also if you were,

45:52 Speaker 1: I still expect what they're saying to be just as

45:55 Speaker 1: valid and still like, okay.

45:58 Speaker 3: Right, because it doesn't cancel it love.

45:59 Speaker 1: It Leya doesn't okay, But you don't only got time

46:04 Speaker 1: to combat one kind of racism every day. You going

46:08 Speaker 1: that hard that you'd be like, oh damn, I forgot

46:10 Speaker 1: to race to tell them to stop doing the other racism? Look,

46:12 Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Shut up? Hudder? Like I cannot.

46:16 Speaker 1: And that's why I'm just like, I can't argue with

46:19 Speaker 1: her because I know that she's doing it, So you

46:22 Speaker 1: will argue with her about what she's saying now instead

46:27 Speaker 1: of what she did then. And I don't like doing

46:30 Speaker 1: that because when you do finally get to the resolve,

46:33 Speaker 1: you walk away still having the same feelings that you

46:35 Speaker 1: had from before, but then there thout then displaced on you.

46:38 Speaker 1: And I'm not doing that with hood that because I

46:40 Speaker 1: have to think about the fact that she has a child,

46:42 Speaker 1: and I don't like doing that. I do not like

46:44 Speaker 1: thinking that there is a little girl who could possibly

46:47 Speaker 1: experience any amount of the lulu that we have experienced

46:51 Speaker 1: on this here show.

46:53 Speaker 3: From the optics, though, Praise God for Jesus, and I

46:56 Speaker 3: hoe it that I believe he's right. Baby stays majority

47:01 Speaker 3: of the time with the daddy, and that.

47:03 Speaker 1: Is deployable, active military parent, and I just feel like

47:10 Speaker 1: those who have children to let that sink in no shape.

47:15 Speaker 1: In fact, Dad hope baby girls having a grade school year.

47:19 Speaker 1: I hope she has all her school supplies and that

47:22 Speaker 1: she's happy and that she is doing her very best

47:25 Speaker 1: for the rest. But that says a lot about the

47:28 Speaker 1: reasons I was about to say, that says a lot

47:30 Speaker 1: about her, because nine out of ten they aren't going

47:34 Speaker 1: to give full custody.

47:36 Speaker 3: As a parent who has to leave the most and

47:39 Speaker 3: then put the baby with somebody else.

47:41 Speaker 2: The court is thinking about it as Okay, well, the

47:44 Speaker 2: mom is here, her job is around the corner. She's

47:47 Speaker 2: going to have babygirl X amount of hours a week,

47:50 Speaker 2: assuming she gets a babysitter to.

47:52 Speaker 3: Go out, whatever the case may be. Whereas if dad.

47:55 Speaker 1: Leaves, he leaves for let's say six months a year,

47:59 Speaker 1: and then dad has to put the baby with a

48:02 Speaker 1: family member who knows what's.

48:04 Speaker 3: Going to happen there.

48:05 Speaker 2: Why don't we just let the baby stay with the

48:07 Speaker 2: mother and the dead visitation. That's normally how it goes.

48:12 Speaker 2: The parent who has the police officer job, the deployable job,

48:17 Speaker 2: they don't normally rush to give full custody to that parent.

48:21 Speaker 1: No, they don't, among other things I've seen Southern court

48:26 Speaker 1: systems work. So let me just say, off of the

48:30 Speaker 1: strength of I have had a friend who in Georgia

48:37 Speaker 1: was her mom had an active diagnosis of schizophrenia, and

48:42 Speaker 1: they still granted custody to this woman post job being

48:48 Speaker 1: left posts fire started in one state, moved to this

48:53 Speaker 1: one without father's permission. Dad fought for custody, Mom still

48:57 Speaker 1: got it of both children. So let me just say,

49:02 Speaker 1: though we like to, I guess we don't. I don't

49:04 Speaker 1: know pretend that we are this progressiveation. I don't know

49:10 Speaker 1: what we're doing at the moment. It told me a

49:13 Speaker 1: lot when the way she moved this entire season while

49:19 Speaker 1: having this baby girl.

49:21 Speaker 3: It was.

49:23 Speaker 1: Information that could be the moms and my dms and

49:26 Speaker 1: my comments told me everything I needed to know. They

49:28 Speaker 1: were just like, it's just very interesting that like this

49:30 Speaker 1: is how she did it. And me, as a bachelor

49:33 Speaker 1: bachelorette watcher, for instance, I've seen plenty of whatever's come

49:38 Speaker 1: through here and be like, so I have a daughter.

49:39 Speaker 1: First night, So I have a daughter and her name

49:43 Speaker 1: is Amber, and she's lovely. Men, So I have a

49:46 Speaker 1: daughter and lovely and normally because these people are they're

49:51 Speaker 1: here for love, they are also there for whatever that

49:54 Speaker 1: might look like, and you know, to see what they need.

49:57 Speaker 1: But people are like, so am I. So maybe if

49:59 Speaker 1: we're a match, will be a match. And I'm still

50:02 Speaker 1: gonna have this kid, so let me tell you about them. Okay,

50:05 Speaker 1: Well I'm gonna tell you up front. Okay. So it

50:08 Speaker 1: was just giving interesting that we had to come out

50:11 Speaker 1: to people and the mom that I didn't that strategy

50:15 Speaker 1: was strange, and I said, oh, I've been that, I've

50:20 Speaker 1: been that, I've been that kid before that some people

50:23 Speaker 1: didn't know about sometimes until it was time to reveal

50:26 Speaker 1: that in a strategic situation so that you don't hate

50:29 Speaker 1: me as much. For instance, let me reveal to you,

50:32 Speaker 1: Nick that I have a child. How did you feel

50:35 Speaker 1: about her and Jeremiah's reuniting and Jeremiah altogether. I feel

50:43 Speaker 1: like Jeremiah said on Business, yes he came a receipts

50:47 Speaker 1: he said, he did say that he did.

50:51 Speaker 2: I felt it very interesting he gave verbal receipts in

50:55 Speaker 2: my opinion, right like he said, For example, we're talking

50:58 Speaker 2: about this conversation.

50:59 Speaker 3: About moving right and I said that I would like

51:01 Speaker 3: the steps to.

51:02 Speaker 2: Be that I came to the state that you were at,

51:04 Speaker 2: and then we dated then and then maybe if that

51:07 Speaker 2: were we you.

51:08 Speaker 3: Know, moved in like and you took that and was like, oh,

51:11 Speaker 3: he doesn't he wants to move out with me.

51:14 Speaker 2: I also like that he stood on business with the

51:16 Speaker 2: definition of love bombing the whole yeah, to paint me

51:20 Speaker 2: as something that I am not.

51:22 Speaker 1: Yeah. I even loved the fact that he all but

51:25 Speaker 1: said I fell in love with your physique, right like

51:29 Speaker 1: he said that he was like, I fell hard. Yeah,

51:32 Speaker 1: And to me, I feel like the physique part was

51:35 Speaker 1: implied because what we have seen from hood.

51:38 Speaker 3: That hasn't been a beautiful person, right, So.

51:41 Speaker 1: I think something similar fell for that physique the whole time,

51:46 Speaker 1: and then the part before he clocked it before it

51:51 Speaker 1: was too late, and that's what the song when he said,

51:54 Speaker 1: I am not carrying you across the water, when she asked,

51:56 Speaker 1: you're really not gonna carry me? You just tried to

52:00 Speaker 1: keep me up last night. You course, you tried to

52:03 Speaker 1: course me to having sex with you, even though the

52:04 Speaker 1: producers told us we only had four hours. And I

52:08 Speaker 1: told you someone who claims that they're interested and care

52:11 Speaker 1: about me and when been a relationship with me, but

52:13 Speaker 1: somehow only has concerns and needs for herself. I'm telling

52:17 Speaker 1: you I need to sleep. They're telling us till night

52:19 Speaker 1: to night where you might want to get that because

52:20 Speaker 1: we're not gonna get a lot of it. And you're like,

52:22 Speaker 1: you have ten seconds counting me down. You've got some nerve,

52:26 Speaker 1: and then you don't get your way. So the next night,

52:28 Speaker 1: when we're at this thing, you're like, I.

52:30 Speaker 3: Just feel like you don't. We just stn't.

52:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's just not here. We can be friends,

52:35 Speaker 1: though you're not gonna carry me. You're confused, and you're

52:40 Speaker 1: irritated that he didn't confuse Chris didn't stay confused for long.

52:45 Speaker 3: But this this body him Ballerina places right like that behavior.

52:55 Speaker 1: Works, which is why she does it this is it

52:59 Speaker 1: seemingly like her first time that she was in the

53:01 Speaker 1: wrong market.

53:03 Speaker 2: This is going to work for the out So you're

53:06 Speaker 2: not gonna pick me up like they're coming back. They

53:07 Speaker 2: gonna pick you up, well you hell, and then they're

53:09 Speaker 2: gonna pick her up. Yeah, they're gonna go do what

53:12 Speaker 2: to be done. But I like that Jeremiah said that,

53:16 Speaker 2: like listen, I fell quickly.

53:18 Speaker 1: And I don't think he was loved bombing, either as

53:21 Speaker 1: someone who therapy or not. You can look it up.

53:24 Speaker 1: I like that he did his homework because he really

53:26 Speaker 1: did try to, and it didn't seem like it was

53:28 Speaker 1: a vengeful thing either to be like don't like yeah,

53:32 Speaker 1: and then he's like, no, I didn't. And I don't

53:34 Speaker 1: think he should be made to feel some kind of

53:36 Speaker 1: way for how he loves or how he fell for

53:38 Speaker 1: this woman, because I also think of it as manipulative.

53:41 Speaker 1: So I'm really not gonna fault him for falling hard

53:45 Speaker 1: for a woman. They were in a relationship, they both

53:49 Speaker 1: were wildly toxic with each other. They both were and

53:52 Speaker 1: they were separated. So why is Jeremiah being made to

53:56 Speaker 1: be How did how was he the coulport of a

54:00 Speaker 1: toxic relationship when it takes.

54:03 Speaker 2: I also think that Jeremiah is like a good case

54:06 Speaker 2: to study for like when people ask like, oh, well,

54:09 Speaker 2: which parent is why, Yeah, it's you.

54:12 Speaker 1: Know it is.

54:15 Speaker 3: It is the dad and but this is my thing.

54:18 Speaker 1: I guess yeah, his mom.

54:22 Speaker 3: Correct me if I'm wrong.

54:23 Speaker 1: But from what I saw online, the mama was the

54:25 Speaker 1: mama was, and that's what I thought.

54:29 Speaker 3: I felt like.

54:31 Speaker 2: Chris hasn't told us why, but like you know, without researching,

54:35 Speaker 2: my feeling was that Chris having a black mom, having

54:39 Speaker 2: four black sisters. You know what I'm saying. I know

54:44 Speaker 2: how a man should speak.

54:45 Speaker 1: To those women, and I also know what those women

54:48 Speaker 1: put up with, what they consider normal, what they emulate,

54:52 Speaker 1: what they teach to their kids. Right, I'm not even

54:56 Speaker 1: receiving what my mom said my sister should go.

54:59 Speaker 3: Get you know what I mean?

55:02 Speaker 2: Like that that like I'm not even wording it right,

55:05 Speaker 2: but like I'm not a situation right, No, I get

55:08 Speaker 2: it the guy, but you're not being the girl.

55:12 Speaker 3: And so this is weird for me, and so I'm

55:14 Speaker 3: gonna leave. Whereas Jeremiah was more like what I don't

55:20 Speaker 3: like it was he liked it until he had to

55:23 Speaker 3: go around the third time on the coaster.

55:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he was even like, oh my god,

55:27 Speaker 1: this is a lot, and he started believing delusions. He

55:31 Speaker 1: was like all over the place and he was confused. Yeah,

55:36 Speaker 1: but he came to the reunion unscrambled, and I appreciate

55:40 Speaker 1: that for him. We do appreciate that. And let me

55:43 Speaker 1: just say to wrap up the hood of package, because

55:46 Speaker 1: I've already spent more time on her than I wanted to.

55:47 Speaker 1: But that's just how consuming she wants to be. It's

55:53 Speaker 1: just I just like Andy said, it's her. I don't

55:55 Speaker 1: feel like you were bullied that much. But let me

55:57 Speaker 1: just reiterate the person and I counted I gotta find

56:02 Speaker 1: my tally sheet, but I counted the person who had

56:04 Speaker 1: to apologize or answer to something the most for their

56:07 Speaker 1: behavior to another human on and off the show was

56:12 Speaker 1: hood up. So I don't really want to hear at

56:17 Speaker 1: this point. It'd be like saying that Jax Taylor is

56:20 Speaker 1: like everyone ganged up on me. Okay, I don't believe you.

56:27 Speaker 1: You have the most to answer for here. The most

56:30 Speaker 1: hood I had been answering and apology or non apologizing

56:34 Speaker 1: the moment we sat down. Her package came at the

56:38 Speaker 1: last fifteen minutes, but that lady had to talk almost

56:43 Speaker 1: every single segment because somebody had to address something with her.

56:49 Speaker 1: But you were bullied, okay. So I also before we

56:53 Speaker 1: leave hooda fifteen seconds, I want to address iris.

56:56 Speaker 2: As it pertains to the extended version of the heart

56:59 Speaker 2: rate challenge. Yes, bitch, are you cool?

57:04 Speaker 3: Like is you really cool? If I if WHOA, this

57:09 Speaker 3: is my man. Everybody knows it's my man. That in

57:16 Speaker 3: and of itself should be the boundary.

57:19 Speaker 2: You freaky, beaky broad Why do I have to then say, hey,

57:23 Speaker 2: as it pertains to my boyfriends, please don't look his

57:26 Speaker 2: genitals or clap your ash cheeks in his face.

57:30 Speaker 1: Thank you, And yes, of Ace shouldn't have grabbed it.

57:35 Speaker 1: He's also twenty three, and I am.

57:37 Speaker 3: He was mad. I'm saying I'm married tomorrow and I'm.

57:43 Speaker 1: Okay, like hello, like listen, it was an ass grab,

57:49 Speaker 1: you know.

57:49 Speaker 3: It was.

57:50 Speaker 1: It was that night that she was giving entertainment, you know,

57:53 Speaker 1: and that's fine, and she's like it was a challenge.

57:56 Speaker 1: It still was a thing. I would like to ask

57:59 Speaker 1: the timeline of the conversation that some people incorrectly believe

58:05 Speaker 1: vindicated Houda with Shelley and the timeline of the heart

58:09 Speaker 1: Rate Challenge, because let me tell you something that I

58:12 Speaker 1: saw all season, Houda trying to get the Black Girls

58:16 Speaker 1: to be on her side. She wanted to create PPG

58:20 Speaker 1: for herself. Yes, that did not happen because they are Honestly,

58:25 Speaker 1: I love Shelley and Landry, but they're just a little

58:27 Speaker 1: bit boring and that's okay. They're beautiful and non chaotic,

58:31 Speaker 1: and I'm okay with that, and I wish them everything,

58:33 Speaker 1: and I hope they get all the things, like all

58:35 Speaker 1: the things. I want more of them all the time.

58:37 Speaker 1: But I think she really wanted that, And they were

58:41 Speaker 1: very careful about who they let deep into their energy

58:45 Speaker 1: outside of them each other, because they were the only

58:47 Speaker 1: two that could understand their specific experiences on this show

58:52 Speaker 1: and what they might experience outside of this show. And remember,

58:55 Speaker 1: I really felt that when they sat down with Kiki

58:57 Speaker 1: and she was like, they got the producers gave them

59:00 Speaker 1: their phones and was like, it's bad, it's bad, just

59:04 Speaker 1: letting know before they left the villain they got their

59:07 Speaker 1: phones back and like the hate is bad, You're really

59:09 Speaker 1: not what and they were like okay, and they were

59:11 Speaker 1: able to understand that. When that didn't happen, and when

59:15 Speaker 1: Hooda got her phone back as well, and she saw

59:18 Speaker 1: the way people were talking about them, she saw away

59:23 Speaker 1: that she could become a victim say they were mean girls,

59:29 Speaker 1: but they weren't not tell you or not that we saw,

59:31 Speaker 1: not that we didn't see. Simply you cried every time.

59:37 Speaker 1: Shelley likely had a reason to be upset with you.

59:41 Speaker 3: You cried.

59:42 Speaker 1: I had a reason to have it be upset with you,

59:45 Speaker 1: And I was wondering why then, because it was giving

59:47 Speaker 1: some implicit biases. I'm like, nobody's yelling. They're actually like

59:51 Speaker 1: so chill, They're just like.

59:52 Speaker 3: She trying to stick up for Landria, and Landria was like,

59:56 Speaker 3: it don't even got.

59:57 Speaker 1: To be She literally said, I just will talk about

1:00:00 Speaker 1: it later. She's like, no, I was gonna talk about

1:00:01 Speaker 1: it later. And she was like, oh, okay, what were

1:00:04 Speaker 1: you afraid of? Okay, and now they're mean girls. Never

1:00:06 Speaker 1: saw it your buggin. So again, we're all here because

1:00:11 Speaker 1: you had to apologize to a lot of people didn't

1:00:15 Speaker 1: but you had to the stack. The questions were stacked

1:00:18 Speaker 1: for you. So I just really want to reiterate. She

1:00:23 Speaker 1: didn't get her way again in a relationship. She could

1:00:29 Speaker 1: manipulate the situation each time to be different or like

1:00:34 Speaker 1: deeper or more meaningful than what we believed or what

1:00:39 Speaker 1: she wanted us to believe. So then she had to

1:00:41 Speaker 1: come out and be like, then fuck it. They you

1:00:44 Speaker 1: didn't see that because they just, yeah, they were bad

1:00:47 Speaker 1: to me. That he was bad. Those two black men

1:00:49 Speaker 1: that I tried to date, they were bad to me.

1:00:51 Speaker 1: One love bombed to me was basically and and you know,

1:00:55 Speaker 1: and very bad and mean to me. And those two

1:00:57 Speaker 1: black girls they were mean girls to me because they

1:00:59 Speaker 1: didn't want to be my best friends. So, y'all, all

1:01:01 Speaker 1: the black people were so mean, so mean, and me

1:01:05 Speaker 1: and my five year old daughter baid each other's hair

1:01:07 Speaker 1: and talk about boys, which is developmentally inappropriate. And I'm

1:01:11 Speaker 1: an educator. Don't play with me.

1:01:12 Speaker 3: You don't do that.

1:01:14 Speaker 1: So I believe the first thing about as much as

1:01:17 Speaker 1: I believe the other thing, and that is thank you.

1:01:24 Speaker 1: And it's honest, honestly a rap. On the season's seven cast,

1:01:29 Speaker 1: this was not it was actually okay. I had missed

1:01:32 Speaker 1: feelings about how long this was. At first, I started

1:01:35 Speaker 1: with being like, how are we going to get through

1:01:37 Speaker 1: two hours? Then there are so many pockets where I

1:01:39 Speaker 1: was like oh, or it was so awkward or it

1:01:41 Speaker 1: was so like bananas that I was like what. But

1:01:45 Speaker 1: then we didn't get enough of it, so it just

1:01:46 Speaker 1: like we were moving fast. And then I was like,

1:01:48 Speaker 1: we're at the end, and then they put it on

1:01:49 Speaker 1: it at the end and I felt like, damn not

1:01:51 Speaker 1: were wasting time, and then we had no time. And

1:01:54 Speaker 1: so I'm like, which is interesting because I didn't think

1:01:57 Speaker 1: you would have that much to give me anyway, because

1:01:59 Speaker 1: I wasn't this river by this season. I had a

1:02:02 Speaker 1: lot of emotions and feelings about it, but I wasn't

1:02:05 Speaker 1: riveted by what I watched, especially as a season six

1:02:09 Speaker 1: watcher and especially as other Love Island season watchers or watcher.

1:02:14 Speaker 1: This one didn't give me. I came here for love,

1:02:16 Speaker 1: but up but it up? You know, it wasn't giving

1:02:19 Speaker 1: me that. It wasn't giving me the proper final three

1:02:22 Speaker 1: that I was looking for. Like, it just wasn't given me.

1:02:24 Speaker 1: At the end, I said this, I wasn't feeling the

1:02:27 Speaker 1: way we connected with each other. I wasn't feeling the

1:02:30 Speaker 1: connections I was worried about being nobody was closed off

1:02:33 Speaker 1: towards the end, I didn't like a constant wind. We

1:02:35 Speaker 1: had no move. It was just like I wasn't riveted,

1:02:38 Speaker 1: but go through broken up and we knew that they

1:02:44 Speaker 1: such conspiracy. They were never together. How about that boom?

1:02:48 Speaker 1: I don't believe it. I don't believe it.

1:02:50 Speaker 3: They were bronk on the couch if they was ever together.

1:02:53 Speaker 1: Also, how did throw a party for one hundred of

1:02:56 Speaker 1: her best friends and closest family members in the same

1:02:58 Speaker 1: city that he is from? And for hours before he

1:03:01 Speaker 1: was buying a rolex But thirty eight hours later he's

1:03:03 Speaker 1: not at the party for his girlfriend. And that was

1:03:06 Speaker 1: the time they were so together. They had just gotten back. Oh,

1:03:09 Speaker 1: because they weren't together, thank you, go ahead.

1:03:12 Speaker 3: They were not together. I would have loved to see.

1:03:15 Speaker 2: I felt like, okay, I felt like Amaya and Brian

1:03:18 Speaker 2: were the winners. We should have gotten more of a

1:03:20 Speaker 2: package on them. And when I say I thought the winner, yes, yeah,

1:03:25 Speaker 2: But like I wanted to.

1:03:27 Speaker 1: See an extended version of whatever conversation that Ace and

1:03:33 Speaker 1: Amaya had, or maybe even footage to show, like to

1:03:38 Speaker 1: justify that Ace wasn't tripping like it was od. Like

1:03:41 Speaker 1: I wanted certain things cleared up that I felt like

1:03:44 Speaker 1: could have been cleared up.

1:03:45 Speaker 3: I wanted to see or talk about how much time

1:03:48 Speaker 3: Ace was.

1:03:49 Speaker 2: I mean, Shelley was really spending in between Ace and Austin,

1:03:54 Speaker 2: because that was always a storyline that felt weird to me.

1:03:56 Speaker 2: It was never anything about Shelley that made me feel

1:03:59 Speaker 2: like she was at track get to.

1:04:01 Speaker 3: Ace like pussy.

1:04:02 Speaker 1: Okay, so if it got two legs and it is

1:04:04 Speaker 1: over the age of eighteen, hellfuck it.

1:04:06 Speaker 3: Yay.

1:04:07 Speaker 2: So I know that he was attracted to Sheley, that

1:04:09 Speaker 2: wasn't a question he but I don't I never believe

1:04:13 Speaker 2: that Shelley was stuck between the two of them, So

1:04:15 Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about that.

1:04:17 Speaker 3: I did not need cocoa there.

1:04:20 Speaker 1: Who y'all did.

1:04:21 Speaker 2: Y'all bullied that girl in the bleach on her top teeth,

1:04:23 Speaker 2: but she didn't bleach the bottom teeth, And I don't

1:04:26 Speaker 2: like that.

1:04:26 Speaker 1: Y'all should have left her alone. She had a jewel

1:04:29 Speaker 1: on her little side teeth and she had just taken

1:04:31 Speaker 1: it off. But y'all, y'all bullied, bullied that girl on

1:04:34 Speaker 1: the bleaching in her hot teeth and her top teeth.

1:04:37 Speaker 1: I'm mad at y'all for that. It's like I'm mad

1:04:39 Speaker 1: at y'all.

1:04:39 Speaker 2: But letting Brian and Amaiya, Way, Bella A and Jeremiah

1:04:44 Speaker 2: told us nothing about the fact that they have canoodled

1:04:47 Speaker 2: in the Brown Chicken, Brown Cowboy and.

1:04:49 Speaker 3: Again come here. If you wasn't going to come in

1:04:52 Speaker 3: and give the tea, then you should have stayed home.

1:04:58 Speaker 1: Why did y'all let her get off the hook that

1:05:00 Speaker 1: someone should have said, You're literally on contract with Peacogo

1:05:02 Speaker 1: right now. Literally, helly, I mean just when I when

1:05:07 Speaker 1: I hang up from you, I'm making a video because

1:05:09 Speaker 1: I don't watch whatever show that her boyfriend man, mister Luis,

1:05:13 Speaker 1: he's on a Perfect Match right now. Hmm, okay him,

1:05:16 Speaker 1: he made a video telling Andy to shut up. He's

1:05:20 Speaker 1: on Perfect Match and he's on a apparently another dating

1:05:23 Speaker 1: show over in the UK or something right now too. Yeah,

1:05:25 Speaker 1: they say he's like a scholar, you know he's This

1:05:28 Speaker 1: is not even his first one on Netflix. See, he's

1:05:32 Speaker 1: been on another one on Netflix. This is his second

1:05:34 Speaker 1: or third or something on Netflix. Okay, that is airing

1:05:38 Speaker 1: the same time that she was supposed Okay, listen.

1:05:42 Speaker 3: But she's not on it. No, but once her contract,

1:05:46 Speaker 3: she has.

1:05:46 Speaker 1: None in her mind. She wants us to believe. She

1:05:51 Speaker 1: wants us to believe that there is something in the works.

1:05:55 Speaker 1: She got out of saying it by saying something in

1:05:57 Speaker 1: her mind, something is in the works with Netflix for

1:06:00 Speaker 1: her and this boy. And if we're to believe that

1:06:05 Speaker 1: there is legal things is because something's on the horizon

1:06:07 Speaker 1: and she can't talk about it because he's on Netflix.

1:06:11 Speaker 1: And since we all know who she's talking about, or

1:06:13 Speaker 1: who Andy's talking about, this boy who's on Netflix right now,

1:06:17 Speaker 1: She's like, I can't for legal reasons because what you're

1:06:21 Speaker 1: gonna be on Netflix too?

1:06:23 Speaker 3: You're not.

1:06:24 Speaker 1: This season a perfect match that he is on is

1:06:26 Speaker 1: also the season that ad from Love is Blonde, who

1:06:28 Speaker 1: was dogged out by Clay at the last final moments

1:06:32 Speaker 1: because his deadbeat daddy told him you were just like me,

1:06:35 Speaker 1: and I ran out on your mama, so he ran

1:06:36 Speaker 1: out on her at the last minute at the Altar.

1:06:39 Speaker 1: Ad is Now he's out there doing interviews though, like

1:06:43 Speaker 1: saying that again, there was more that we didn't see,

1:06:45 Speaker 1: and that villain you are the villain that was wild.

1:06:48 Speaker 1: You definitely could have told that lady before she walked

1:06:50 Speaker 1: down that aisle and got your I'm just saying listen.

1:06:56 Speaker 3: Video.

1:06:57 Speaker 1: Yeah right, okay, but Ad is now with that man

1:07:00 Speaker 1: that she was at matt on Perfect Match. He has

1:07:02 Speaker 1: an accent, he is very cute, and they are pregnant

1:07:05 Speaker 1: and engaged.

1:07:06 Speaker 3: I knows he is.

1:07:08 Speaker 1: But I know for a fact Netflix is not putting

1:07:10 Speaker 1: no money into a package with non confirmed, brand new

1:07:14 Speaker 1: dating girl from another network streaming platform and this boy

1:07:20 Speaker 1: who they just have on retainer whenever they need a

1:07:23 Speaker 1: dating show slot filled. I know they're not. And so

1:07:27 Speaker 1: when later we asked her, so, what happened with that, Oh,

1:07:30 Speaker 1: it just didn't work out. Okay.

1:07:33 Speaker 3: She just want to be able to get.

1:07:42 Speaker 1: She's gonna go so far, Alabama worker.

1:07:44 Speaker 3: Said, so, Alabma went so far. That's how she knows.

1:07:48 Speaker 1: She doesn't.

1:07:48 Speaker 3: I didn't even a together.

1:07:51 Speaker 1: To be fair. The most famous of the children of

1:07:56 Speaker 1: that man, Travis, and she's the only one with a

1:07:58 Speaker 1: social media presence. The boy with the black nail polish

1:08:03 Speaker 1: gets me every time I watch the show. He's interesting.

1:08:07 Speaker 1: I forget his name, but I want to know him. Alabama, No,

1:08:10 Speaker 1: don't think about her at all. She thinks about herself though,

1:08:13 Speaker 1: God bless her her and Ky sannat So I hope

1:08:16 Speaker 1: her and her go off into the sunset and have

1:08:18 Speaker 1: a very nice time being.

1:08:22 Speaker 3: Are you just saying kay? Sat thinks about himself a

1:08:24 Speaker 3: lot too, Oh, he.

1:08:25 Speaker 1: Thinks about her. She wants his attention. I really believe

1:08:28 Speaker 1: she wants his attention. She's with someone else though right

1:08:30 Speaker 1: now another wayan who should know better but won't doesn't,

1:08:34 Speaker 1: so poor them. I'm glad this season is over, and

1:08:43 Speaker 1: I really think the timing of all these breakup announcements

1:08:48 Speaker 1: between Iris and Pepe and Aya and Brian happening within

1:08:51 Speaker 1: the same week and right after the reunion and those

1:08:53 Speaker 1: contracts are up, which again I think Amaya and Brian

1:08:57 Speaker 1: only pulled it together July they can promote the reunion.

1:08:59 Speaker 1: They had to be on Watch What Happens Live, They

1:09:01 Speaker 1: had to be together, and especially up against fucking Nicolandria.

1:09:06 Speaker 1: You don't want people watching Watch That Happens Live before

1:09:09 Speaker 1: the reunion going. We voted for the wrong couple. I'm

1:09:12 Speaker 1: not gonna watch. Yeah, and people with time to not

1:09:15 Speaker 1: waste would do that. They'd be like, girl, fuck you,

1:09:19 Speaker 1: how y'all love exactly? And the girls are watching it,

1:09:24 Speaker 1: so listen. I'm glad this is over with. I think

1:09:28 Speaker 1: these boys showed their behinds, almost all of them not

1:09:34 Speaker 1: very well this season. They didn't do they disappointed me.

1:09:37 Speaker 1: But these beautiful women, Bill Flood, I really just remind y'all.

1:09:42 Speaker 1: Every time I watch one of these and I wrap

1:09:43 Speaker 1: one of these series of I am praying and constantly

1:09:46 Speaker 1: thinking about you, ladies, especially for people in general, but

1:09:51 Speaker 1: definitely my girlies who'd like to sleep with and the

1:09:55 Speaker 1: company of men. Because I watch these things and I

1:09:58 Speaker 1: am like, this behavior not a rule out And the

1:10:03 Speaker 1: answer is no, it's crazy, And tell them an you know,

1:10:08 Speaker 1: discrib moment of discretion or something. I'm like, not the

1:10:11 Speaker 1: way he's talking or hygie nothing, Okay, Austin, really, why

1:10:17 Speaker 1: do we spend so much time with as now?

1:10:20 Speaker 3: But no, I.

1:10:23 Speaker 1: Choose your choose your thing, you know, because listen.

1:10:29 Speaker 3: My best friend and I have a pack.

1:10:31 Speaker 2: If, if God forbid, we ever both end up single,

1:10:34 Speaker 2: we're gonna marry each other.

1:10:37 Speaker 3: Because she has two kids, I have my one. Will

1:10:39 Speaker 3: raise the children together.

1:10:41 Speaker 1: If then, when you need somebody to throw the hot

1:10:44 Speaker 1: dug down the hallway, I will watch the kids, and

1:10:47 Speaker 1: when I needed you will watch the kids. There we

1:10:49 Speaker 1: will collect our tax dollarism live happily. Ever, is that

1:10:53 Speaker 1: is that what a lavender mad at Ridge is? Yes,

1:10:57 Speaker 1: that's very, very similar. You know, we're just gonna do

1:11:01 Speaker 1: what we gotta do, d L and you know, listen,

1:11:04 Speaker 1: but let me not talk too much about the man,

1:11:05 Speaker 1: because when they reverse this whole situation I got going

1:11:08 Speaker 1: on with my wife, I might be calling on of

1:11:10 Speaker 1: y'all to be.

1:11:11 Speaker 3: Like, hey, yours won't get reversed.

1:11:15 Speaker 1: Everybody that's in, we don't know, stay in. We don't,

1:11:20 Speaker 1: I don't know who knows. Listen. We love to be

1:11:23 Speaker 1: able to bring y'all the like a little bit of

1:11:26 Speaker 1: relief with this BS and talk about other delusional things.

1:11:30 Speaker 1: But remember, the world is still no America is still

1:11:33 Speaker 1: on fire, and we have to return back to that

1:11:37 Speaker 1: reality now. Literally, Elle is like as invested in the gutter.

1:11:42 Speaker 1: She has us invested in the work, yes, maazing, But

1:11:46 Speaker 1: the politics, y'all, she's in it. She really recovering the

1:11:49 Speaker 1: real stuff, like the serious stuff as well as this

1:11:52 Speaker 1: pop culture stuff. And it's like, I loved how quickly

1:11:57 Speaker 1: and available you were to pull away from the actual

1:12:00 Speaker 1: dumpster fire that is the American government and the politics system,

1:12:04 Speaker 1: especially in New Jersey, with all the elections and things

1:12:07 Speaker 1: going on and the things happening up there to just

1:12:10 Speaker 1: you know, come on and talk some ship about these

1:12:13 Speaker 1: you know, young beautiful people who we knew we're going

1:12:16 Speaker 1: to be different love, but we still got big feelings. Anyway,

1:12:19 Speaker 1: It's important you have you have to be well.

1:12:21 Speaker 3: Versed on what's going on in the world. So you go.

1:12:26 Speaker 2: Touch crash, you have to know what's going on with

1:12:28 Speaker 2: the grass that you touch. But you can't stay outside

1:12:32 Speaker 2: in the grass, right Like, everybody needs an off switch,

1:12:34 Speaker 2: everybody needs I will say this, and I've I've been

1:12:38 Speaker 2: saying it, and I will.

1:12:39 Speaker 3: Continue to say it. Bravo.

1:12:41 Speaker 2: Housewives specifically is one of the most uniting topics. I

1:12:46 Speaker 2: have been in rooms with me as wires and.

1:12:51 Speaker 1: Been there for serious things. Right Like, we're there for business,

1:12:54 Speaker 1: we're talking section and somebody says makes.

1:12:57 Speaker 2: A Housewives reference, and now we're off in the corner

1:13:00 Speaker 2: whispering about the fact that we watch Housewives.

1:13:02 Speaker 1: I did.

1:13:03 Speaker 2: I interviewed Mikey Cheryl yesterday. She had a rally for

1:13:07 Speaker 2: Women's Equality Day, and I'm there and I'm meeting the

1:13:11 Speaker 2: other people on her comms team, and we end up

1:13:15 Speaker 2: talking about Bravo.

1:13:17 Speaker 1: Me and this girl, we have a whole moment. She

1:13:19 Speaker 1: goes home and tells her Beyonce, but she met her

1:13:22 Speaker 1: sold me it's me. We were talking about housewives and

1:13:27 Speaker 1: one girl had everything before.

1:13:29 Speaker 3: We gave her the roadmap. So I would say that

1:13:33 Speaker 3: to say it's important. It's it's it is. Housewives are

1:13:37 Speaker 3: just as important as politics.

1:13:39 Speaker 1: It is so imp No I do, I don't, and

1:13:42 Speaker 1: I think it's. First of all, you need to know

1:13:44 Speaker 1: the road map of politics, and you can learn that

1:13:46 Speaker 1: best and most entertainingly by watching housewives. They do the

1:13:49 Speaker 1: same thing. You ever watched these fan live? I watched

1:13:51 Speaker 1: these span all the time. It looks like the same

1:13:55 Speaker 1: it's watch CNN after ten pm. Let me tell you something,

1:13:58 Speaker 1: and it's not as civilized all the time. Okay, real

1:14:00 Speaker 1: early seasons in New Jersey. Let me tell you. I

1:14:03 Speaker 1: today said, and I want to leave y'all with this.

1:14:05 Speaker 1: This is a generational unifier, I today said. After the

1:14:09 Speaker 1: third day of school with my third graders, we all

1:14:12 Speaker 1: walked in. One teacher age she two thousand and four,

1:14:16 Speaker 1: the other teacher nineteen eighty four. Me in the middle

1:14:19 Speaker 1: of nineteen nineties. Blah blah, blah and literally I said,

1:14:23 Speaker 1: oh today, drain me and they all were like, oh

1:14:26 Speaker 1: my god. Same, both white women both knew it was Marlowe.

1:14:32 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, and it's keeping us a flow.

1:14:35 Speaker 1: And that gave us joy after a long day of

1:14:38 Speaker 1: being overstimulated by twenty one to forty eight third graders. Okay,

1:14:42 Speaker 1: that is why housewives matter.

1:14:45 Speaker 3: Okay, thank you for your service. We do.

1:14:48 Speaker 1: We do, oh me, thank you, and we think that

1:14:50 Speaker 1: house was for theirs as well. Because when I'm in

1:14:53 Speaker 1: the private toilet like the teacher toilet for my eight

1:14:56 Speaker 1: minutes that I have to myself, and I choose to

1:14:59 Speaker 1: do that instead, I am on the TikTok, fully clothed,

1:15:03 Speaker 1: just scrolling, and when I see things like Karen's getting

1:15:06 Speaker 1: out of jail, I rejoice. When I see things like,

1:15:09 Speaker 1: you know, a reference or meme, I rejoice. And I

1:15:11 Speaker 1: can do that, you know. So we appreciate the moments

1:15:14 Speaker 1: that we can take together to discuss the mess as

1:15:17 Speaker 1: much as the important things. L where can they find

1:15:20 Speaker 1: you to just to scroll through the things? You are

1:15:23 Speaker 1: wont get that range over there. I again take care

1:15:26 Speaker 1: of the youths. So I'm going to maintain my self

1:15:29 Speaker 1: preserve my mental health. But LL covers it all. And

1:15:32 Speaker 1: I'm a firm follower, like listen, where can I find

1:15:35 Speaker 1: you and engage?

1:15:36 Speaker 3: I am briefed by L on everything. For whatever reason.

1:15:41 Speaker 1: TikTok is glitch, so I can't change the actual act.

1:15:45 Speaker 1: But my name on TikTok is briefed by L.

1:15:47 Speaker 2: You can send to you anywhere on social media and

1:15:50 Speaker 2: you'll find it Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube brief by L.

1:15:55 Speaker 1: And I brief you on all things politics and pop culture,

1:16:00 Speaker 1: and I make it digestible for the everyday person. I'm

1:16:03 Speaker 1: always talking to the women, but if you're a man,

1:16:05 Speaker 1: you could come to But I do always and all

1:16:08 Speaker 1: things for the for the female gays, never for the man.

1:16:11 Speaker 1: It's so good. It's so good over there. Maybe that's

1:16:13 Speaker 1: why I feel safe, and I like to go scroll

1:16:15 Speaker 1: go over there and get briefed by EL. Y'all, and

1:16:17 Speaker 1: you know where to find me on all the things

1:16:19 Speaker 1: at Mixing with Money and my x SI g W

1:16:21 Speaker 1: I T H M A N I the visuals on

1:16:24 Speaker 1: Patreon because you know, I don't know it looks hurt

1:16:28 Speaker 1: for free, yet I work with children. Make me an offer. Okay,

1:16:36 Speaker 1: just wait, just wait, just wait, just wait. So that

1:16:40 Speaker 1: and then of course you know I'm on Thursday, I

1:16:42 Speaker 1: talk Love Island, I be talking about the things when

1:16:44 Speaker 1: I live watch that's my place to live, right, I guess.

1:16:48 Speaker 1: And on Instagram I be cutting up in stories and

1:16:51 Speaker 1: everything like that, so you know, I like the things

1:16:53 Speaker 1: to disappear. I'm a kid of Snapchat. Take care of yourselves.

1:16:57 Speaker 1: Please try to take care of one another because no

1:16:59 Speaker 1: one else seems to be doing it. Someone really encourage

1:17:01 Speaker 1: y'all to do it, so they, at least my little

1:17:03 Speaker 1: population of the world's takeing care of other people. And

1:17:05 Speaker 1: then that at least helps, you know, spread the word.

1:17:08 Speaker 1: Ask somebody, shame someone into taking care of someone else,

1:17:12 Speaker 1: or shame them for making bad decisions. No, I want

1:17:17 Speaker 1: to drive and do that when a stranger looks at

1:17:20 Speaker 1: you from across the room and like you see them

1:17:22 Speaker 1: doing something. Okay, we'll tell y'all something. I've been thumbs

1:17:26 Speaker 1: downing people instead of flipping them off when I drive,

1:17:30 Speaker 1: and it makes them matter. I highly suggest it. They

1:17:33 Speaker 1: don't know what to do.

1:17:34 Speaker 3: They don't know when you make a post, is it

1:17:38 Speaker 3: a so selling.

1:17:42 Speaker 1: Come with so much us visions? Oh my god, hell,

1:17:46 Speaker 1: get out of here. She has ideas, y'all. Yeah, y'all

1:17:49 Speaker 1: don't even know I'm about to start the whole tiktoks. Anyways,

1:17:52 Speaker 1: let me go and be creative. My wife is also

1:17:55 Speaker 1: yell at me, and you know, let me not make

1:17:57 Speaker 1: no more dark jokes. Have a blessed one.

1:18:00 Speaker 3: Y'all.

1:18:00 Speaker 1: Take care of yourselves, stay happy, stay healthy, stay safe. Please,

1:18:05 Speaker 1: by all means, and if you are in the DMV area,

1:18:07 Speaker 1: please reach out. We can support each other or complain together,

1:18:11 Speaker 1: or cry whatever you want, yeah we're all the things,

1:18:15 Speaker 1: or shot a lunch train. Let's try not to get people.

1:18:18 Speaker 1: Have a good one.