221. A Wagon for a Draggin': RHOBH & RHONY (kinda) w/Mark (@thepinkpopbox)

0:00 Speaker 1: Sounds strugg Oh hello, Hello, hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologist out there. It is your girl Moni, and you are in the Mix with Money. I cannot tell you how excited I am because not only are you in the Mix with Money, but fan favorite, my favorite, Mark is also in the mix with us. To shout out to the Pink Box, we are here, and we are already. We already started keiking. I almost forgot to press for cord Mark. Hell are you doing?

0:42 Speaker 2: I'm ready, I'm ready, That's I'm right.

0:44 Speaker 1: Okay, listen, Oh, it's time to drag some some some privileged white women's It really is. It's time and y'all know what it is. We're gonna have a good time doing it though. Okay, we're gonna have a nice time. A little key key. Lots going on this week. By the time of recording, it's it's Wednesday. Lots going north this week, but only halfway through. And let me tell you, it's been a good week for some and a wars week for others. People. Has been a good week for Lady Gaga, mister Benito bueno bunny Elmo thinks he's a good bunny.

1:23 Speaker 1: I agree with Elmo, maybe even Cardi B. She's free now, okay, bad week for these the people. The people it is a bad week for include the Patriots.

1:38 Speaker 2: Boom damn. That was a bad one. Stephan Diggs, total, y'all.

1:44 Speaker 1: Okay, Oh well, you might go to jail, we don't know,

1:49 Speaker 1: lose the Super Bowl, lose your girlfriend and might go to jail we don't know, and missus Aaron, Jill's Aaron. Not good week for her love of firing and bad things happening.

2:02 Speaker 2: My god, the dragging that, y'all.

2:05 Speaker 1: Like, I put out a little blurb of an episode a little quick twenty I was.

2:10 Speaker 2: It was just on my mind.

2:11 Speaker 1: I woke up thinking about Jill Zarren's stupid ass rant Taylor Armstrong stupid ass posted before I could open my eye. I didn't even get out of bed. I'm telling y'all, I really recorded that, like it's on my mind. I said, Maya, just don't move or speak. I need to talk to the people. What the hell was Jill's Aaron thinking? Asking where all the white people were at? First of all, like Stephanie Gamati was not on that stage also known as Lady Gagat, she was right there Alex Earl right there, what are you talking about?

2:46 Speaker 1: Second of all, girl, what this is a bad idea. This is a really bad idea. And she really stood in it, even on there, and I was like, oh no, so I had to talk about it.

2:58 Speaker 2: Little did I know?

2:59 Speaker 1: Little did we all? Oh no, not just You're gonna get canceled for this, Jill. Ha Oh did you see? What did you see first? Happen to Jill's are? And what did you see first? Because it was a lot of things happening bad to her? What did you first see?

3:15 Speaker 3: Well, honest to god, as soon as she made that video, because I followed her, so as soon as she made that video, I just happened to log in because I want to see what people thought about that, you know, the bad buddy, and Jill was the first thing that popped up. I said, oh, hell no, you did not, you racist piece of shit.

3:38 Speaker 2: Yep.

3:38 Speaker 3: And I said, you know what, Mark, don't make a political don't make a political don't go into this year of twenty twenty six on your soapbox this quick. And I said, I'm coming at you. I said I'm coming at you as a human, not as a political standpoint. I beg of you watch the performance again and look at it through a different lens, because he was telling his life story, in his people's life story, And I said him, why you add it?

4:05 Speaker 2: Since you live in Florida, you might want to learn Spanish, but.

4:08 Speaker 1: You know, real, girl, what okay? Also, Jill, are you not of a different culture? Is English your people's first language? Like, I'm real sick of this. Y'all really got me, you know what? Don't really have me fucked up with this narrative? This is so ridiculous. Why does everything have to cater to you? Why do you have to be able to connect and feel comfortable in order for something to exist? Like what kind of entitlement is that? I've never in my life gone into any space or place thinking that I was going to be the sole person whose feelings mattered, situation mattered, and comfort and comfortability mattered.

4:54 Speaker 2: Never, I don't have that luxury as a black queer woman in America.

5:00 Speaker 1: If Jill does good for her up until right now, this is the most attacked that she's felt where she couldn't watch a Super Bowl and understand the performance? Girl, what you are so confused?

5:15 Speaker 3: Well, that was the first part I made my post, and then every content creator worth their spit came out there and told her.

5:24 Speaker 2: She was wrong. And then she get canceled.

5:30 Speaker 3: And they tried, they say, and I even heard that racist husband or boyfriend or whoever he was in the backgrounds that you're gonna get yourself.

5:38 Speaker 1: Canceled, and shit, I don't care if I get canceled.

5:42 Speaker 2: Good good, because she did not.

5:46 Speaker 3: Only does she get canceled by her her own family disowned.

5:50 Speaker 1: Her, because what the hell you sound stupid? Where are all the white people? Is that how you walk through the earth. You can't be around places and places to where the white You can't watch a show without all the white Like, what are you talking about?

6:07 Speaker 2: Now?

6:08 Speaker 3: I had heard now this is just the streets talking, but allegedly when Ultimatecrow's trip to film, I was just saying, this is just the streets and this is allegedly, but I can tell you I talked to somebody in production, but we're gonna say allegedly just for safety. See Okay, okay, during Ultimate Girl's tooth at the Berk shirts, Okay, there was a reason she was a day late because someone refused to get vaccinated and and the you know, the quarantine, you had to wait for forty eight hours.

6:46 Speaker 2: So they said no vaccination, no play, and no pay understood.

6:55 Speaker 3: And so she got up in arms and guess what, she got the jab and she she went in there a day later. And even even even missus Victoria took the job in his head.

7:08 Speaker 2: I don't like it, but I.

7:09 Speaker 1: Do exactly, she said, I want the chat, but like Jill, So Jill got on the internet posted this. And you know, if you've ever posted a real ever posted a video after you recorded and everything, holding it on she holding the record button with a filter and everything. As my friend shout out to Quentin Lamar, he said, comedian extraordinary, He said, Jill asking where all the white people are when she got a face, went to the plastic surgeon to look like Gloria estefan Ah.

7:45 Speaker 2: That's funny. I saw. I saw Quentin's video.

7:51 Speaker 1: How I said, that's it exactly because I said, what is this face? What are you talking about? You judging lady god guys play plastic surgery. Baby, I'm judging your plastic surgery. What are you talking about? Who told? First of all, if you can, if you can criticize lady God, go's plastic surgery.

8:12 Speaker 2: Then how are you asking where all the white people are? No, that's right, I know that she's.

8:17 Speaker 1: And she's sang in English. So also, Megan Kelly, shut up. I'm not even gonna even because I don't.

8:23 Speaker 2: Even believe it.

8:24 Speaker 1: I don't even think believe your own bullshit. That's how ridiculous you sound. That's how sound so ridiculous. It really did. I said, Oh, no, white women are taking the ell this week. Y'all's people want to be represented by this. This is crazy. Y'a't need to get better reps. They're out here talking craziness.

8:47 Speaker 2: What in the world is.

8:48 Speaker 3: That it only took forty hours for E Entertainment did do God's work.

8:54 Speaker 1: I don't care if I get canceled. That's something like confirmation to me. E and them said, oh, well, she don't care. I didn't see that she got fired first. I actually pulled up after I released my episode. I was like, huh, I wonder what's gonna happen next. I did not expect her to get fired.

9:13 Speaker 2: I don't know why. I don't know.

9:15 Speaker 1: Maybe because the fact that they're even redoing they're doing a show that queens and Bravo calls this MAGARONI because that's the whole cast.

9:23 Speaker 2: So Jill's the only one that got caught and said it on the camera.

9:26 Speaker 1: That was her dumb decision, like Ramona, okay, you know what's her name? Avery took that phone and hit it in the closet, put it in the library where Romona will never find it. She put it in that library so that she could hide it from me. She said, Mom, you're not gonna fuck this up all right on the top shelf. Put it what a books are, what autobiographies or something are about somebody other than herself, so she'll never read it, never reach it. She said, no, ma'am, you're not gonna go up there, because Jill put that out there.

10:00 Speaker 1: And I saw that Zarreen Fabrics, which is named after Bobby's there is his family's company. But they were the fact that they posted a photo of her. I just saw this photo with a bright red ax when I opened my phone, I said, no matter what comes next in this life, whether she gets fired or not, whether the Internet cares or not, I honestly didn't expect the Internet to care as much as it did, which was fantastic to see. But because y'all know how y'all like to let y'all face play real problematic for way too long, like way too long.

10:33 Speaker 1: And it didn't give them a platform to do it. When then I hear, oh she got fired, I said, oh, we we ain't even get you yet. It hasn't even come out. They don't have to scrub you from a trailer or nothing. They said, actually, never mind.

10:48 Speaker 2: I just like that.

10:49 Speaker 3: The Zaren family put a big fat red trader's death X on her.

10:54 Speaker 2: Big death X.

10:55 Speaker 1: I said, let us be clear, and these are not my words. These were their words. In fact, I'm gonna go ahead and people go ahead and tell y'all exactly what it's said, because it got me to get me together. And I didn't do it.

11:09 Speaker 2: I'm not racing save my family. I didn't say it, but they were. I got with school, says.

11:15 Speaker 1: Zaren Fabrics stands firmly against racism, discrimination, and rhetoric that seeks to exclude or diminish people based on identity, culture, or background. We want to be absolutely clear that Jill's Aaron has not had ownership of or been associated with Zaren Fabrics for several years. Our company operates independently and public in Any public statements attributed to her are made in a personal capacity and do not reflect our values, beliefs, or operations. Saraen Fabrics is built on creativity, collaboration, and respect for the diverse communities that shape art, culture and expression.

11:58 Speaker 1: We condemnuage or viewpoints that undermine those principles, and we remain committed to fostering and inclusive and welcoming environments in everything we do. Hashtag diversity, hashtag culture, hashtag small business, hashtag art, hashtag fabric hashtag let us be clear, we don't know her. That's it tld r uh uh. That was a married name. He is no longer with us all rip God rest is soul, and she is no longer associated with us.

12:34 Speaker 2: She just won't let the name go to That's how y'all met her, and she want to be on TV.

12:39 Speaker 3: Well you saw what she she put out within Touch magazine. She put a one line statement out she said, they didn't even give me a chance.

12:50 Speaker 2: Why would I need to give you a chance, give you a chance to do?

12:55 Speaker 1: What? Say more things? That sounds stupid and pissed people off. And so before I saw that she was fired, I saw that Andy Cohen talked on Radio Andy about it, and he.

13:05 Speaker 2: Says he said, go to E before he could even fire her.

13:09 Speaker 1: He said, call E because listen, we fired them girlies and decided not to bring her back. A long time ago. They were sick of cleaning up these messes. They ruined. I say they they did what I mean, Jill, they ruined Real House House of New York. They did with their own bigotry. And Bramo said, if we can't change your bigotry, we've got to unemploy you because you're unmarketable this way.

13:39 Speaker 2: I mean, let's just be honest.

13:41 Speaker 3: Ebeny K Williams was used as a scapegoat for the fall of Ronie, but Remind's singer behind the scenes is why it really went down the Chiefs because of the four hr complaints against her, two were substantiated, Thank you very much.

13:56 Speaker 1: Okay, And not to mention making that culture an entirely I remember, y'all can go back and listen. Maybe I'll even post some throw back Thursdays. But I never forget when ebny K, I mean not when nebuty K was was when Lea M. Sweeney got on the show the year before. I told y'all what we were gonna go when she wore a little Kim dress, and I told you that was inappropriate bestly around all these old white women who do not care or understand to care or care to understand cultures outside of their own, including that of quote unquote hip hop culture with Lee, which Leah put on as a costume.

14:31 Speaker 1: But when Derinda said, I get it, it's cool, it's like it's rebellious. I wore a Mussolini sweatshirt when I was in college. I said, Okay, yeah, we're we're doing We're gonna want to have a go. And that was like episode two of whatever season that was before Lebany got on there.

14:51 Speaker 2: I said about that was bad when.

14:54 Speaker 1: We couldn't handle it then, And so what do you think Mark, let me ask you about speaking of because I also said on my little blur Bua podcast, it's just so funny because we're hearing people talk about Derenda's behavior and the Traders castle a lot ron funches and

15:14 Speaker 1: she was DJing the super Bowl party and I said, that's so interesting because one Meredith Marks is right there too. Derenda's in the card. Again, that's inappropriate for a DJ job and three way like that was like she's getting all the rewards. But like, okay, go off. What do you think about them replacing Jill with Derinda allegedly?

15:34 Speaker 2: I mean, let's face it, Derenda is not going to turn down a gig.

15:38 Speaker 1: No, and it's but it's a unilateral move. No.

15:41 Speaker 3: Well, to be honest, the fact that they're already fostering a Bluestone manner series for Bravo for her, I don't understand why she would transition.

15:52 Speaker 2: Over to a competitor network to do this. I mean, are time's that tight a.

15:57 Speaker 1: Bluestone and guess it is? The girls aren't coming and she's employed by Andy? Yeah, yeah, I know how much? How she was able to do this? Yeah?

16:11 Speaker 2: How is she able to do this?

16:12 Speaker 1: Because as we know, he is no longer the U NBC Universal umbrella. It is on its own situation outside of there. That's why Andy could say when Jill was talking BS on this on the Instagram, he said, call e, that is no longer Andy or Bravo's problem. There is no one that needs to be stressed about your words today. I know that the Bravo gir at least woke up, looked at that shout out to Donald Prima. Donna know they look at that like, not my job, nothing I gotta do.

16:47 Speaker 2: Somebody gotta work hard today.

16:50 Speaker 3: Let me tell you, I mean the absurdity of these rich, white, waspy racist bitches in Laura.

16:57 Speaker 1: With y'all, like, just think about it. Do you need to connect with everything that you see and experience or that is around you in order for it to be happening. That's literally the quintisential question. You never heard the phrase the world doesn't revolve around you? Quite literally, this this is that, this was your opportunity to understand, to show and demonstrate that you understand that as a full grown adult.

17:23 Speaker 2: It all failed miserably. It did love that. Lou Anne and Sonia said, oh hell no see look me Oa. Noel was like, let me tell y'all.

17:32 Speaker 1: First of all, when I was in prison, I talked to many women, all different kinds and all beautiful. I brought them all to my spot when I got out, you know, all different women, and I wanted them to feel beautiful too. Okay, I love I see the beauty in all people. Okay, let's see which bag bunny song, which one's trending?

17:52 Speaker 2: The most. Okay, let's put that one.

17:55 Speaker 1: Let's put that one up.

17:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll be sure. She put a picture of her with all the black tea.

18:01 Speaker 1: Sonia said, let me take you to my coy pond and show you. I have all the fish different colors. I love them so much. Was like, oh, they were smart, they distanced themselves.

18:13 Speaker 3: The only one we didn't hear from, like you said, Avery, hit the phone, or we'd have heard from Ramona.

18:19 Speaker 1: Yep, that's it. That's the only one. Ramona has something to say, probably something very similar to Taylor adding the NFL is crazy. I was like, you listen, Eddie said, neither are employed by Bravo.

18:33 Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm okay, and I'm happy for him.

18:40 Speaker 3: It's kind of triggered me because she put her ass on top of a you know, warrior princess.

18:44 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, now, so dead.

18:46 Speaker 1: I was like, girl, what and.

18:48 Speaker 2: Take that little way cat with you and just go go straight to hell?

18:52 Speaker 1: What is wrong with y'all? I have never in my life where are all the white people? So I know what kind of question.

18:59 Speaker 2: Is that somebody?

19:02 Speaker 1: Somebody responded that we're in the nepsteam file. Let's go look at him. Yes, Jesus, help us not listen the truth.

19:15 Speaker 2: The facts are the facts. I didn't It's not my job.

19:20 Speaker 1: All I know is and he had his hands full. He's like, these are not my problem, no more, Thank the Lord. The only problematic white women I gotta deal with are over there on the West coast right now. Dang, I'm sure he'll have his hands full of Rhode Island. We'll talk about that later, but I can't wait. Though still very excited, still can't tell those two women.

19:41 Speaker 3: About face blindness. There's a lot of face blindness with rude Isle.

19:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, who is who?

19:48 Speaker 1: What?

19:49 Speaker 2: It like the mortal life all over again.

19:51 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, so everyone's the same, but I'm gonna learn by vocal inflection who is different?

19:56 Speaker 2: Got it?

19:58 Speaker 1: Okay? And do have his hands full of all with these women's on the West coast? That would be the current ones, the Beverly Hills girls.

20:08 Speaker 2: Oh man, what a what a what a shit show?

20:10 Speaker 1: That turned into Yeah, this isn't is tough.

20:16 Speaker 2: This season is tough. This episode was tough.

20:19 Speaker 1: A lot of hard convos, a lot of publicly hard convos with zero resolves, no result.

20:26 Speaker 3: But I will say before we even jump into Well, Rachel Ze, MVP of the episode forget forget about it the whole season.

20:34 Speaker 1: I'm loving her. Yeah, I love her so much. She made me stay with Dire Force that I only sat her with D because Rachel was like, let me tell you something, it's really annoying that you keep saying that she needs to be like PC all the time when sometimes you just can't get it the fuck out. You just got a rage then exactly, well, Rachel, you know, Derey was thrilled.

20:55 Speaker 2: She was like, it got hurt tingly, I know that.

20:59 Speaker 1: Okay, she was pumping that fist pointing there. She said, yes, that.

21:06 Speaker 3: When when Dorrie is ready to push Charles McCarter in the baptub and tell them to stop making them bubble, I'm ready.

21:14 Speaker 1: Okay, No, seriously, she was like, it's it's gonna be. It's gonna be. You understand where I'm coming from and agree, or you don't. Let's talk about It's like Beverly Hills is so famous for we start end to end every episode with some kind of fight, dinner, party, combo pladder. Like we started this episode picking up with the fight that we left off at the dinner party last.

21:47 Speaker 3: Week that Amanda that Amanda was responsible for but she didn't want to take responsibility for it.

21:53 Speaker 1: No, because but then, how dare you say anything to her? Okay about the fact that she it was the day it was the anniversary of what are your thoughts on that? Because yes, it was the anniversary of her son's death. She did throw it out there in a moment that did feel convenient, because also then it desinized why did you come?

22:19 Speaker 2: She really did. She said, I'm barely hanging on life. You don't need to be here.

22:24 Speaker 3: It was disgusting. She should have just stayed the hell home if it was that big a deal.

22:28 Speaker 1: That big of a deal, I mean, okay, I just want to make sure I wasn't preferent.

22:32 Speaker 2: Oh no, you're not. I hate What does she say? Girl?

22:39 Speaker 1: You didn't hear?

22:40 Speaker 3: And she did an interview, ah, and she basically said, Boz is jealous of me because her online course is spelled and mine are thriving.

22:51 Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, you did not like you did not.

22:56 Speaker 2: That She's gonna pay for that. She sure as hell is.

22:59 Speaker 1: I don't like that.

23:01 Speaker 2: She will pay for that reunion. She'll pay for that if she shows.

23:06 Speaker 1: You don't think she'll show. She did say that there's rumors that she quit. Then she said in it. Because she's in it, I.

23:15 Speaker 2: Can confirm she did not quit.

23:18 Speaker 3: However, Okay, there was an incident that I was not told what it was. But something does happen behind the scenes, and she stops doing the after show, which is why she got scrubbed, and they're using her old October interviews while everybody else is in new interviews. Okay, and she she is contractually obligated.

23:44 Speaker 2: She was very careful with her words, because words matter in these cases.

23:48 Speaker 3: Yes, the notes right here, hold on because I got note right here.

23:52 Speaker 2: She said she has one interview interview not plural, No interview to do one watch what Happens live appearance and the reunion. That is very political. Yeah. I think she shows up to the reunion and walk off. Yeah, I guarantee you.

24:11 Speaker 3: Or she's gonna pull Diana, or she's gonna pull Diana and just phone it in and zoom it in for just a minute and then she's gonna be done.

24:19 Speaker 2: Okay, I about to say it. She needs the check, please, she's but she's got millions, but she's got millions I don't believe it. You don't believe that she has millions or that she needs the jet. I don't think, well, she clearly needs the check.

24:36 Speaker 3: But but I'm gonna tell you right now, I I something something right there.

24:42 Speaker 1: No, Yeah, it's giving skeptical because she does want people to constantly. Something that I understood was when a couple of episodes ago Rachel and Erica, Rachel is like, let me tell you, this girl wants you all to know she got a business so damn bad, like taking business calls in front of everybody and then being like, hmm, listen, look at me, look at me. Listen to me handling business, being a badass and doing badass business stuff and making millions. Okay, look at me.

25:09 Speaker 2: Do it.

25:11 Speaker 1: Don't you already told us though last week in a week before that you do that. In fact, we know we did not forget, but thank you. And she really wants you to know she got it, she got money. She wants you to know she got money. When she's like, I'm gonna be different. I'm renovating a house that doesn't need renovations because I can and I have money and all these things, okay. And she also doesn't want to take responsibility after the re's like, Okay, I know it was your son's the anniversary of your son's death.

25:46 Speaker 2: And I said, I'm sorry, but I didn't know that.

25:48 Speaker 1: She goes, I told you, yeah, but I didn't know that before you told me, before I asked them to watch you down my question. No one knew but Kyle, but Cobb didn't know it was going to hit like that, right, And also nobody knew but Kyle. And because Kyle knew, like she wanted, she put all the blame on Kyle anyway, So you're like, Okay, so you're hanging on by a thread, but it's not your opinion.

26:20 Speaker 2: It's all Kyle's fault. You were just agreeing. So why are you upset when I tell you I see what's coming down the road. Because this girl, she keeps talking about the cult. This keeps coming up. And what does she talking about?

26:36 Speaker 3: Well, her behaviors if you think about it, one thing that cult members like to do, or like cultists or religious orders like that a very controlling situation. They like to like scientology. That's it's the best way. It's the best one I can use. They don't like subversive people, and so what she did in that moment was to tell Durree, Kyle said this about your marriage and how you're talking about your marriage, and she didn't like it. So now Kyle is already in a corner with Dret that she wasn't in before that moment, and she has isolated Kyle from Dreet because of that, and they're never going to be close obviously.

27:25 Speaker 3: From the mid season trailer, it's just gets worse.

27:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it does seem to get worse, like she really saw that little rift happening between them and really dug the ice wedgeon there and exploited it even more Intentionallyally, it doesn't feel intentional because she can get in with Kyle good.

27:45 Speaker 2: You know, she has her.

27:46 Speaker 1: House now, Kyle's helping her pick furniture for the house that she's older.

27:52 Speaker 2: She just wants to monopolize that friendship like.

27:57 Speaker 1: Not and but talk about everybody's situation, including to Reid's very personal things and details, and now her talking about p K. I will say I have mixed feelings on it. While I think, you know, Kyle's not being a girl's girl and not being a good friend in her support of her, I really feel like Kyle's is a the eyes girl, and that's really upsetting but also very apparent to me.

28:19 Speaker 2: Beautiful hair guy's girl though, giving I do think, yeah it is. They were raised.

28:30 Speaker 1: I do think that Darit needs to cool it on publicly. I do understand what Rachel's saying, you should be able to talk to your friends. I don't think she was really doing it on camera, but that's the only place that she's friends with these ladies.

28:43 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.

28:45 Speaker 1: Well.

28:45 Speaker 3: I can tell you this, Kyle, Well I made I made a host the other day and I made a list of all the things that Kyle did for d and that the amount of stuff that Kyle lost in defense of Dreek. And then you say, well, what did Dureek do and reciprocal just based on what we saw on camera, she has not done anything reciplical to help out Kyle.

29:11 Speaker 1: She don't call these no, they're not good friends. Darita is not a good friend too. Anyhow, the point she cannot get a word in, and I thought it was funny every time Kyle said that to her. She was like, if you want someone to not say that, let them get a word in. I was like, I mean, a fair girl, thea rekan sault, and she will eat your ass up for way long, okay, And so Kyle's like, I'm trying to tell you now you won't listen. So I understand that I don't think Durita is necessarily a good friend.

29:42 Speaker 1: I do think that she. I do also think that while they're not good friends to each other, it makes sense that this would be the breakdown of their friendship because this is when in times like these, this is when you would need and to show true friendship. Built foundations like true foundations of friendship show up when people are going through divorces and separations, even if they are different than each others. I mean, I do think Kyle and Mauricio is separated with zero intention of getting divorced.

30:12 Speaker 1: I think that is very clear. Now it makes sense. I mean, I'm not mad at it. It's chupid a keeper,

30:20 Speaker 1: because if you did try to leave my girl, Kyle, that's when I become. At one, I would be a Kyle fan because I am a good divorced girls girl. And then two I'd be like, take it all, leave his ass dry, Kyle. I don't even want a fativity. I want to seventy thirty that's what I want. Leave him with nothing. He can do it again?

30:45 Speaker 2: Is he all that asses?

30:46 Speaker 1: He got all this time and energy he at here kissing and lifting girls up in the air and whatnot. The DJ Now, okay, Mo's on three Rovo shows in a week. He got energy popping up on everybody's show, but everybody's party, the Persians, the potomec He's everywhere.

31:04 Speaker 3: Look I was look, I was scared for his safety with Stacy and Ashley though I was worried for him listen.

31:11 Speaker 2: But also the way Kyle responded, I saw all it's giving. That's her man man, and.

31:15 Speaker 1: I am mad at it. I am mad at it. She said no. We both wanted to do our thing. I wanted to see whom a man? And he asked, can I make out with bitches? And I said yes, And I said, okay, I ain't gonna hold you. I think that's a fantastic thing, especially if that's the case, like I think that would be great. I mean, discover yere bisexual or whatever. But you've been married for twenty plus years. I mean there's gonna be some things. And it happened. It just so happens that your life is also very public, so we're all gonna know about it and have interest about it.

31:45 Speaker 1: But if the ultimate goal was for y'all to stay together, but you needed to know this part and explore in front of yourself by all means my love, I'm intluit go forth. I just think it's funny how because it's very clear the intentions were different. Kyle was like having like a meaningful trying to get through a relationship. This stuff she had feeling she fell in love. Ma is lifting bitches up in the air and kissing them in the airport and women them are kissing them, making out in boots. Mama is just here for a good time, not a long time.

32:15 Speaker 1: What's the party? He just want to party. And so Kyl's like he's harmless. I'm not really that mad or concerned. Because she brought him towels for the bitches to wipe the make up at his house, his casita.

32:30 Speaker 3: She goes, you gotta keep it orderly over here. Our daughter comes here, we gotta keep it in order.

32:35 Speaker 1: And Derey. I will say, while I think that Kyle is probably siding with PK, I will say, maybe she's not necessarily wrong. It's just not popular. I mean, the two things can be true. We can walk in chew gum. It sucks when you are not your friend's like girls girl in a situation like this, but also durit is very envious of Kyle's very good. I wouldn't even say, oh, sure, yeah, okay, I was gonna say amicable situation.

33:02 Speaker 2: No, hell no, Kyle has everything wants she's got.

33:06 Speaker 3: I do agree with that. She's right up about Thathip. Bitch had six Bentleys in the yard. Okay, okay, she did. And she had a house, Darit's old house.

33:23 Speaker 1: Like the first house that we saw with her in PK was such a strange hall.

33:29 Speaker 2: It really was on a It was like on a cliff.

33:32 Speaker 3: No, it was, and it had plumbing issues.

33:36 Speaker 2: Remember no kidding, it's on a cliff. Yeah, get off the cliff, get on the ground.

33:41 Speaker 1: If you want to be connected.

33:43 Speaker 2: I just remember I had plumbing issues.

33:45 Speaker 3: And they couldn't go into a room because it was like all draped off, and I was like, ooh.

33:52 Speaker 1: And I do think it's interesting because she's like, Okay, You're like, the only way you are trashing PK though, is him being a bad father? If you were trashing him in another way, I probably would be more on your side, even more, Durie, because I'm off for trashing a man, especially when you're leaving him like I'm ready for when Browin decides to tell us that Todd does like to fire while he makes out look Browmin don't care right now, she's digmatized right now. I'd love that for her and I'm happy for her.

34:19 Speaker 1: We would just focus on that, you know, you're looking high, don't get a man to.

34:25 Speaker 2: Get near it.

34:25 Speaker 1: And if somebody is hit or not, she's keeping that so on the quiet no nobody's hitting that she wouldn't be so upset. No, oh no, she would not be so upset. I could tell that right now. We wouldn't even be having this conversation mark you and if he would not even be talking about Kyle being because she's like, I am trying to support you, but you are trying to make it seem like he is a bad father.

34:51 Speaker 2: Do I think PK bops around too much? Yeah?

34:53 Speaker 1: Probably, Man, they're petty, but I do think they when you're an adult, When you're adults, you gotta leave it with the adults. Both PK playing games in the courts and on the TV show. Both of you, it's bad for your kids. You're actually both being bad. You got to watch ek though he's smart, he's smart. Yeah, he's quite the grifter.

35:20 Speaker 3: No, some I think the reason Kyle sides with it, I have to wonder if this is just my conspiracy theory mind working over time. What if he got in the business, will Mo with something and she does it and she doesn't want that to get out.

35:36 Speaker 1: Absolutely I believe that, like no facts to back it up at all, and I absolutely think that would be the case.

35:43 Speaker 3: It feels like it just feels like Kyle wouldn't ride so hard for some sleeves ball unless there was something.

35:51 Speaker 1: I think there's investment, and because her and Mo also in that. I mean, think about it if you if we're talking about if her and Mo actually got she could really take him for everything. But they built that business to gether, like from the ground up. Okay, she took care of the home. We know domestic engineering is a real job. Okay, she took care of that home so he could build that business. And then her daughters also were him that business is equally theirs. Right. If that is the case, that means any investments that they did.

36:24 Speaker 1: They're also pretty equally tied up in it, so I know more probably like if he goes down and loses his ship, were not safe, our money isn't there.

36:34 Speaker 3: Well, well, the problem is that will come out in discovery if a good forensic finds it, it.

36:42 Speaker 1: Will exactly, it's sure will. It's sure will. And I don't understand why de reit doesn't see that that. It's not just that she's like, I just thought we were really good friends.

36:53 Speaker 2: Y'all were only friends to take Lisa.

36:56 Speaker 1: Literally.

36:56 Speaker 2: Kyle got on board with DEI to take Lisa down because she saw on it.

37:00 Speaker 1: I don't even know if that was it.

37:02 Speaker 2: I don't even know if that was it, because they.

37:03 Speaker 1: I thought she saw it seemed like Dari was taking a wild shot and making digging a big hole for herself, and Kyle was like, oh well without me, she was like dude, okay, and then tried and then you know, it is what it is. And then of Proximity, who they had left five, Yeah, they all banded together as like an ally group. And now when you are losing members because they're getting fired for being weird, Lisa, Renna, they you don't have as much in common as you did when you were like a band of brothers against first Lisa Vanner Pump, second Barcel Girl, Yeah Garcel, and now both are yeah Crystal, and now they're both are gone, all are gone.

37:54 Speaker 2: They're like, you don't like you, which is kind of iconic. I ain't gonna told you. I ain't gonna lie. Kyle's like, you know, actually you're kind of annoying, and that accent is so fake. I wish I guess.

38:06 Speaker 1: I'm like, I would love Kyle Moore if she was a mean girl a little bit, like if she owned it being a mean girl a little bit.

38:11 Speaker 2: I know you're thinking it.

38:12 Speaker 1: I really do, because I know you're thinking it, and I don't think it's that.

38:19 Speaker 2: I'm just like, I want you to me I won't love her any last.

38:26 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love you. You make a converter out of me. I want you to give it to her. I think the reunion though, she's gonna I think we're gonna see well a different time.

38:36 Speaker 3: Fact she's I know for a fact she saw my post with the list of what she gave up for her and because she hearted it, and yeah, I.

38:44 Speaker 1: Think she's hearing people, you know, like be a little bit more like we're into you piping up for yourself to speak. We do.

38:56 Speaker 2: I am into it. I need you to speak for yourself.

38:58 Speaker 1: I really do, because short of like knowing the ins and outs of Kyle's life and his family, I'm more so care when she has an opinion of her own, because so much of her on the show, she has been linked to another person, whether it be Kim and if she's a caretaker, if she's understanding, if she's doing a good job, if she's you know, all of this, if she they're fighting whatever.

39:19 Speaker 2: So she's like, it's Colin Camp.

39:21 Speaker 1: We got to talk about that, and then it was Lisa Vanner Pump and you know, we gotta do it's that whole thing.

39:26 Speaker 2: And then now it's then it was like her and Mo and I.

39:28 Speaker 1: Want Kyle And if it's the opinion is unpopular, I can give a shit, just have one. Amanda don't. And that's why we're all annoyed with her. She's a weirdo who's just like, oh, I didn't say it, Kyle said it. And Kyle's like, well, since you keep bringing my name up, yeah I said it, and I'll say it again. Stop talking bad about your soon to be ex husband on TV. Bravo, Bravo, fucking Bravo bitch on a show. That's all she's saying. Really like, She's like, we can talk about this in private, but why are you on the show every professional talking shit about him and to be there.

40:08 Speaker 1: I do agree with that. I think two things can be true. She's like, what am I supposed to do? I'd be a bad friend if I didn't say, you're gonna shoot yourself in the foot doing this right, It's gonna make it real bad, especially because you know PK is smart, chaotic, and a little unhinged and evil. If he's everything you're saying, why would you piss him off by talking about it on the Bravo network?

40:30 Speaker 2: Tell you? I know you lie?

40:32 Speaker 1: She because that doesn't make sense to me, because if he's everything that he's you're saying, he is so manipulative and problematic, he would keep his kids from going to Florida, book a flight and do this, stop the stop that.

40:45 Speaker 2: Then he loves you.

40:47 Speaker 1: What did Bose's friends say? You might be on that end? Yep, every other weekend for two years.

40:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, remember this is not his first family.

40:57 Speaker 2: Look how he treated the one before this one.

41:00 Speaker 1: Okay, if you don't look at the lessons and learn from.

41:04 Speaker 3: Them, Darna's just the most current hustle. Okay, he took all her money. When she said he got all that money, I was like, bitch, no, you did not give him all your money.

41:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, invested it in him, which is crazy because ma'am is what boy George's manager with no shade to boy George. But if I had to ask or tell my mom that when it first when she first got on the show, so that my mom could be jazzed, and she just walked through the kitchen and said, oh, that's cool. I used to love boy George back in the okay, and then walked away. I said, oh, no, where did you know this money from?

41:45 Speaker 2: Well, that's my question.

41:47 Speaker 3: How is he sustaining his livelihood right now? Where's all this money coming from? Because it is certainly coming from investments to real estate because that went up and smoked too.

41:56 Speaker 1: Well, why is he out of the country so much quote unquote for business? Is or are you just evading things?

42:01 Speaker 2: It's giving larcenes to me, But you know that's.

42:04 Speaker 1: Just me o.

42:08 Speaker 2: Them white women's and Amanda is a faker.

42:12 Speaker 1: Y'all got me. I haven't even talked about or thought about Erica Jane for three episodes and.

42:20 Speaker 3: Erica, let me tell you something. Erica might be a little bit of a problematic patty. But the fact that she told dor read what time it was in that in that trailer.

42:33 Speaker 2: She said, I don't had enough. She had enough. I haven't had.

42:38 Speaker 3: Enough, And then Dariek called them all see you next tuesdays.

42:41 Speaker 2: E were even bos.

42:44 Speaker 1: That's crazy to me because that's your friend. In fact, she brought her other friend, her long time best friend of thirty four years, to sit you down and be like, hey, you might want to watch it. Yeah, okay, because you could potentially fund yourself in a weird situation. She's like, yeah, it was the worst two years of my life. Summer shout out to Summer. So glad she got her. So she's real, They got real friends. I mean, Bo's is a real person. I don't really know what she's doing on this show. I'm not gonna lie.

43:16 Speaker 3: I didn't like her that much last year because she was so far up Durite's ass.

43:20 Speaker 2: It was disgusting. Yeah, but this year she's separated a little bit more from it, and I'm really starting to like her.

43:28 Speaker 1: Very herself, and She's like, how am I supposed to feel bad for Amanda if I don't know anything about her?

43:34 Speaker 2: Was that honest?

43:37 Speaker 3: Her and Rachel? But her and Rachel are putting them pieces together pretty quick.

43:42 Speaker 2: They can.

43:44 Speaker 3: They can smell a lie like a fart in the dust storm, and it's kind of stinking great.

43:48 Speaker 1: What do you think about dre putting together or like doing this deep dive? I really hate when one woman does do deep dives on another one, like, oh, I forget.

43:56 Speaker 3: But you know what, it is a little it is a little girl and girl crime. But you know what, I would be remiss to say I didn't do a deep dive in the fact that my podcasting partner physically knew Amanda, for instance, back.

44:09 Speaker 2: In the day.

44:10 Speaker 1: You think I didn't ask him everything, I will tell you. I don't understand why these people go on these shows. I mean, Jenshaw is the quintessential example of that was a bad decision.

44:22 Speaker 2: So I guess I I guess.

44:23 Speaker 1: I can't say I don't know why a mana did this show, because that was stupid. Listen, the fact that all them agencies have been investigating you for over a decade and you're on your ten years and you were like, look at my money. I mean, look at your money

44:48 Speaker 1: threw when she threw Meredith a birthday party that calls all them thousands with your grandparents' social Security, I said, oh baby, this is what's going on here.

44:56 Speaker 2: This is crazy. That was stupid.

44:59 Speaker 1: So I'd say that to say, like, I wonder why Amanda went on this show, because I have had no shortage people. Here are episode's mark, and I get at least two dms every time about how someone else also is a formul someone is a friend of a friend of a client of, or she was a client of. When a lot of people telling me she's the client of theirs or something, and boy, oh.

45:24 Speaker 3: Boy, well, I don't know if there's a podcast called the Bravo Docy you know who they are. Yeah, well, they did a deep dive on her contractual obligations for her classes and if you sign up for one of her classes, you have to sign away your rate to disparage her, critique her, and do all these other things where you can't talk badly about the class. But in the fine grating and this got me, you can't initiate a chargeback if you do not like the product. She'll only refund you your product after already eight hours.

46:01 Speaker 3: After that, you're on your own. This woman knows what she's doing. But her legal manager, Debb.

46:09 Speaker 1: The money queen.

46:10 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, well the legal manager deb who is not a legal manager. She's just an office manager. And she trying to come off like she's a legal person. And the Bravo doc and girls read her for filth un I loved it.

46:23 Speaker 2: It said, so she is not she.

46:26 Speaker 3: Is not She is not not a legal person.

46:30 Speaker 2: She's just an office man. And you're here.

46:32 Speaker 1: I'm just like, you went on this show just to like have a cute bob and be annoyingly like you'll let people know that you grifted so hard that you made yourself millions.

46:42 Speaker 2: That's not a flex.

46:42 Speaker 1: But I do think that young people, especially some and some of the best scammers I've seen are genuinely like.

46:50 Speaker 2: Looked at how well I scammed? Can you believe me? Show? And she's Kyle Richard's house.

46:57 Speaker 3: Ah, here's the she just sits there and it's the same ugly ass leather coat with the coat over her shoulders.

47:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, looking like Tiffany and Chucky.

47:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I don't get it. It's not my vibe. And she committed. She just stares, yeah, no, but like cute girl, really wild Aura, it's not going great.

47:23 Speaker 2: It's really weird. It's chaotic.

47:26 Speaker 1: I can't get It's like I can't and both was like, we can't get a read on her. Rachel's like if I don't know you, look, I don't know you, like you won't let me know you, So how can I?

47:36 Speaker 2: Well, she but she could. She could tell that she she was.

47:39 Speaker 3: She was desperate and thirsty for when she got on that place, she just she was wearing Chanel top to bottom.

47:45 Speaker 2: I'm all for brands, but she out dead.

47:49 Speaker 1: Remember when Dey used to wear like it would be full name brands. It was giving rent the runway every day.

47:55 Speaker 2: Them. She remember the Chanelle gloves.

47:57 Speaker 1: I will never fix with the hat and the glove and was like, I Chanelle, Thank Chanelle.

48:03 Speaker 2: And she was like, I'm waiting for the Feds to step in. I'm waiting. I smell it.

48:11 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they'll be there. We'll get a documentary about it soon. I'm gonna watch it and will and will listen.

48:21 Speaker 2: We have had such a nice time successfully dragging so many problematic, like controversial white women who brought it upon themselves, not the lack of deserving.

48:35 Speaker 1: That's why, if you're watching this on the Patreon, I have the Hunting Wives church.

48:41 Speaker 2: We took them to church.

48:42 Speaker 1: You know, if you're gonna drag some wealthy, out of touch ladies, that's taking the church to do it. God bless them.

48:49 Speaker 2: Mm hm. Now catch this like and catch this eat down all right.

48:53 Speaker 1: Mark, thank you for being here today, thank you for helping us walk through all of these things. It's actually the Jills, the Jills, Aaron, you know, Direnda Swapperoo. We'll see if Derenda makes it to filming.

49:09 Speaker 2: Who knows what can happen in a month.

49:13 Speaker 1: A lot can happen in a month. All I know is Queens of Bravo shout out to them. Just post it Derenda joining Magaroni. And it's just important to remember that all of these ladies were basically fired or put away because of how problematic they were. So putting them all back together on a show, you're gonna run into these problems again. So just because Jill's Aaron took herself out in the beginning. E if you you're not gonna get a second season because you're gonna be doing this for the rest Okay, it's gonna be one after another, all right, I'm just this is the fair warning.

49:46 Speaker 1: Take take Andy's advice. But no, okay, uh Mark, where can people find you? Listen to you? Come into the pop box that is bank and get to know you more, because I mean, if you're not following Mark, I don't know what you're doing.

50:00 Speaker 3: So go ahead, let him educate you. But we're on the Instagram at the Pink Pop Box and Tony and I have a podcast and we started doing Monday Night Lives to cover traders and some Bravo topics here and there. Yes, please, I finally got watching Salt Lake. I see, I finally got in.

50:19 Speaker 2: This girl cure. He loves Mary. He loves Mary.

50:23 Speaker 1: He and I rbss we agree. She is a the comedic relief and the heart of the show. Just give me another heart.

50:34 Speaker 3: He's halfway. He's halfway through season three, but his favorite episode is the Zion's Trip where Whitney walks past Mary and she just goes.

50:45 Speaker 1: Winny, it's not little Girl, I mean every.

50:51 Speaker 2: Oh, he loved Little Girl. Oh he loved Little Girl. I think you not.

50:56 Speaker 1: It is an She is the heart of the show. There is no one else. I'm sorry, heart and soul.

51:01 Speaker 3: He was upset when he found out she's not in season three because what happened?

51:07 Speaker 1: Yeah she did, he said women, He goes these were women suck. Yeah, dude, it was a hard time. Even it only gets better from here. I look forward to knowing more about his journey with that.

51:25 Speaker 2: Y'all.

51:26 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening for me and Mark, Mark, thank you for being here. He's at the Pink Pop Box. I'm at Mixing with Money and my x I g W I T H M A n I. Wherever you get your podcasts at the Mix with Money. Go ahead and like bry me a little review. If you made it to the end, drop a little you know, a little emoji or something.

51:48 Speaker 2: Let's see what should we have it for today? We dragged a lot of white women. Is there a wagon somewhere, a little pretty chuck wagon. Yeah, there's a little wagon.

51:58 Speaker 1: Drop a little wagon emoji, y'all because we dragged him.

52:02 Speaker 2: The spookspit a wagon and did a dragon.

52:04 Speaker 1: Okay, take care of yourselves, y'all, Love you thank you for listening, Babe,