202. RHOSLC x Below Deck Pt. 3 w/Mark (@ThePinkPopBox)

Speaker 1: Sounds Russ. Hello, Hello, Hello, beautiful and wonderful mixologists out there. It is your girl Moni and you are in the mix with Moni and Mark. Again. We are here, We're back. It is part three of the Salt Lake City and Below Deck crossover. And I had to get one the audio right so I could get our man's Mark back over here and talking the good stuff of Salt Lake City. So first things first, Mark, how are you doing? Are you so excited to get into these ladies with me?

Speaker 2: I am so ready?

Speaker 1: Oh my god, am I so ready for this? I like it goes without saying. We'll start all we'll go through all of it. But at the top, how did no one get the footage? Oh? I do, I do?

Speaker 2: It's it was called white privilege, and yeah, yes, I said it.

Speaker 1: I said it.

Speaker 2: Ya it was white privileged celebrity status and production did not want to jump down that. Well. Yeah, and I know they were protecting Meredith, That's what it was. And anybody that did, they were protecting Meredith. And I guarantee you there's audio because you know, you know, somebody that has no skin in the game, they their phone out, even if the curtain was pulled. You could hear Meredith.

Speaker 1: Yes, Like I feel we've seen it so many times. If Meredith or Lisa gets unhinged and goes off the cuffs, we know we get audio. We always like somebody got a mic on somewhere. I mean, Meredith screened it, brittany time, because she was recorded, and I just wondered. I was like, you're being targeted explicitly, and you're not gonna, you know, just a little voicemail.

Speaker 2: I just just no, real, I just that was odd you.

Speaker 1: I'm like, no, Brittany, that wasn't the time to record, baby girl. This is the time. This is the time you want to have that recording it.

Speaker 2: I'm just we'll go down the list because I haven't written down here of everything they alleged her.

Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so let's close out the trip and then let's get into it. Because I took a list too. I too took note of like all the things, because I was like, you're gonna have to answer to each and every one of these allegations. So let's let's let's start at the beginning or the end. It's day three of the yacht trip. I can't even believe we have gotten a full episode for each day on this trip. Thank you, ladies for your service. I have to say that.

Speaker 2: Off the dime, Yes, thank you, and thank you Below Death for your service, because I can't wait till their episodes air. Because I can't wait.

Speaker 1: Till their episodes either. I think it's going to be so interesting to see the contrast, especially because, like, think about it like this, both sets of people are working essentially right like they're both on their shows doing their jobs. Now. Granted, the Salt Lake City ladies get to have a little bit more of a luxurious time while they're working, and the Below Death staff is like actually doing work while they're working. They have like two jobs in front of them. But yet I feel like Daisy and them were like, I think we'd rather be doing our job below Yes, because y'all.

Speaker 1: Daisy was like, I've never seen anything quite like it. I don't know, we don't have this in Australia. It's too much, she said. These girls are correct. Dazel was running scared. Every five minutes. She was like, ah, ah was like bigger than my than my cheeks. I was like, oh shoot, eight days they finished yoga. She was scared of them. Ladies, which I don't blame her. I'd be like, I mean, think about it, if we were outside of this situation, if we did not watch these people, if we were at a restaurant for instance, or like people who like live in uh DC or something.

Speaker 1: No, we have like Spirit of Washington, like cruises where it's like giant yachts and you have those kind of cruises like where other people are all dining and stuff. Imagine a table of eight expensive looking women decked out in every chanelle Findye Burglary, Bulgarie Burbery, Rolex. Imaginable. You got brahmin over here in full costume, and they are lit roughly like, well, your eyes saw, I ticked out that your husband cheating? You are nasty, You're nasty, I see, I mean you and I would probably be like turning our chairs around with the bread and the butter, like ao, past that bread and butter.

Speaker 1: What's going on over there? What's that friend group going? What's going on?

Speaker 2: I won't lie. I would be watching.

Speaker 1: I would be watching. I would be watching. One time I was, but.

Speaker 2: I hear somebody raised the voice at a restaurant.

Speaker 1: I'm clocked in. I'm clocked in. No seriously, we'd be turning our chairs around at the table, like, oh, whoever we came with, forget that, that's no longer is that my concerned? We can catch up on your life later, honey. What's going on over there? What's going on over in that room? One time, my wife and I we were at one of her family members like celebrations. They love bonefish. They're very much so American chained people, and I love that for them. You know, I always know what I'm gonna get. So we go to a bonefish.

Speaker 1: They have one of those like bathrooms, and it was people thought that they were filming something because it was just a group of beautiful women all in this private room. It's their friend group. There were no cameras. It was just a friend group. That this exists like this. That's why I feel like the DV is a weird place, Like a lot of this stuff exists. And like the waiter said that they got we had heard like like yelling loud voices even though they were in like a private room, and he was like, they're trying to decide who is going to host their holiday trip or holiday party.

Speaker 1: They got into a fight about who was going to host the party. I said, I know where he had to celebrate a birthday, but I no longer can care about that. I must figure out what's go I must who do we decide on? Ladies?

Speaker 2: Who's up back there? I would have said, excuse me, I just I overheard, because everybody overheard. I just want to need to know who's hosting.

Speaker 1: I just need to know. I don't need to know.

Speaker 2: Or was it you Mary Margaret?

Speaker 1: Yeah? Like what are the options? Like what is everyone's homes looking? Like? Can you read my invitation? Like?

Speaker 2: Right?

Speaker 1: Like can your table comfortably sent? Ten? Oh? Hers only? Oh? Her six? Twelve? Oh, I don't know. I don't know Campton, it's given, it's given me Like I had to know. I was. I told that Bonefish waiter. I was like, Oh, you're about to have an apprentice in five minutes, and I need you to sell it. This is money. She's training with me today. She's gonna be getting your orders. Uh huh uh hu. I'm alert. I want to know because that's me right, Like That's why I'm like, I couldn't have been on that plane because if I was on that plane, there's nothing PRODUCTION would have been able to do.

Speaker 1: To stop me short of giving me a cease and desist, which means jet shit to me.

Speaker 2: But before we get to the plane, I want to talk about that poor little stuff unicorn who didn't do nothing to nobody.

Speaker 1: I mean, except for be such a poor, poor, pitiful gift.

Speaker 2: Or I know, I know, but that wasn't its fault. It's not like if in some universe what animals and toys have feelings to be.

Speaker 1: Thrown No, I agree, I agree. I'm a kid of toy story. It's followed me all the years of my life, like Pixar and them and dream Works have done it, like I'm the Monsters, Inc. And University generations. So like I believe my toys were talking. What do you mean, like they were having full conversations and that UNI was probably so scared, so afraid already. Like okay, so thank god, honestly.

Speaker 2: I want to know who.

Speaker 1: I can't wait. I was just gonna say, on below deck, I know we'll see that part. That is the that's the extra step that these lately East staff is going through. They're getting unicorns out of the ocean for their charter guests.

Speaker 2: Okay, she was about the poop herself when that unicorn came out.

Speaker 1: Why did Bronwin do this? I want to know what you think? Why?

Speaker 2: Because she thought was going she thought Meredith was gonna put the blame on on her, so she cut Meredith off. That passed because I did it. I did it just to be a joke.

Speaker 1: No, I mean honestly, why did she even bring the unicorn to Meredith? Like? What was Bronwin's reasoning or pro Yeah? No shit, but also why I think here's the thing y'all know. Okay, two episodes ago, Mark, when we did this, I was like, I don't even want to talk about Brittany. I don't want to mention her name. I'm annoyed here I am. Y'all got me almost not defending her, but I'm a little concerned. And we're really doing a lot because Bronwyn, what did you mean going out of your way to go into that lady's room get her unicorn?

Speaker 1: Bring it to the bitch you no hates her more than you and has a bone to pick with her to be like you want to throw it overboard? I just was like, damn, that's mean. It's mean girl behavior. I'm for it, but it is me. Yeah.

Speaker 2: Well, This isn't Meredith's first time of things going overboard either. Oh, Season three and GK the yacht, she sat there while Jen shop through ngc's shoes right overboard does Milano Blanac She's and Meredith's letter. So Meredith has a little sketchy history with things going overboard on the boat.

Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very true. That's so factual. Meredith is not yet. She has a poor judgment. And what's crazy is for how slow Meredith talks. She really lacks impulse control, like you would think that her impulses are a little bit more controlled because her vocal patterns is so slow that late. I want to put her on point, like on two time speed. Every time she talks. Every time it's too much like it's always loading. Her words are still loading, her voice is still loading from the deep parts of her throat.

Speaker 1: It's always loading nastiness. Why is it taking us fact to say nasty?

Speaker 2: Look it's the barbit chilly and just call my then I'm going in.

Speaker 1: Yew like serious, say the rooms the nash I'm just like, girl, We've been here for fifteen minutes for you to finish this ranch for what Yeah, sentence, but exactly, but yet her impulse is that she cannot fight them bitches, Like the moment it comes shit to do it, she just has to throw the thing over. But I'm like, you had a lot of steps before that, because if you were gonna be so shook this woe would get it out of the ocean, Like you wouldn't see that you threw it later. Why put on a lobster inflatable to go do it?

Speaker 1: Like, Bronan, what the fuck you really was? Like, you know what I'm gonna do. I can really make a moment because I don't. Maridith, this is pissed her, Like, I just want you to know, b be your This is Heather Whitney's territory. This is bad weather territory where we're just olding and literally we're not even stirring the pot. We're bringing the pot the broth and the spoon and going hey and the bowl and the bawl and oh and you got someone like Meredith and Lisa who are so volatile, like they're so volatile and always are the victims, so like if you bring a bow to them, they're gonna eat from it, and they did.

Speaker 1: Oh girl, every time Meredith got people to be like, what's it say? Who cares? And throw it overboard? To be fair, though the unicorn did need to swim, she did. Poor little guy, I don't know.

Speaker 2: I just had him. I just had a picture of him in my head drifting away.

Speaker 1: You are loved because like, again, what, I would not even accept that as a gift. I don't even know how I made it on that yacht. I would have been very happy to leave that behind. I was really hoping that after three days she'd get a little bit of clarity you know something, But I don't know, maybe the rejection by okay, like you don't even want that? Damn Unicorn and Daisy did a good job. She was doing her job, trying to secure her tips to go and get the unicorn.

Speaker 2: God know that was a fat envelope.

Speaker 1: I'm proud of them, but I'm saying go ahead, I'm saying forty thousand tip.

Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that. You think so it's going to be close to forty thousand and thirty five or forty okay.

Speaker 1: I think where I feel good about that is that I do think that you have women on this cast who are one wealthy That helps too, Like they're not all at lifetime with Whitney. You know what I'm saying, a lot of them do have money. I don't think even if Lisa didn't have money, I don't think she'd want to be the be embarrassed. I think she cares so much about that aesthetic that she'd make sure to put in a good enough amount for the tip. Angik got money out the ass, so she's like whatever, Well, and k is loaded beyond the level that I think I even understand, not like I'm uncomfortable.

Speaker 1: I rewatched her wife Swap episode again and I was just like, yo, know when she's not flexing, I'm like, this girl got money, Like there's.

Speaker 2: Not down house. Her downstairs floored me. I never saw downstairs. I just know Monica fell down the stairs. Okay, we never got to see down the stairs.

Speaker 1: I was like, did we know our floors were heated?

Speaker 2: What kind of driveway was he?

Speaker 1: How expensive must to be to have an electric mill the old Lake City? Because you know what it's called as a bitch all the time. And Angie said, I'm rich enough to do something about that. And I said, now, I'm like, I can't afford to turn the heat on even in October, and Angie's like, baby, my tiles eighty five degrees? Okkay, what Angie? What Angie what? Maybe it's because Electric doesn't appear to be a brat, like she actually appears to be her mom's biggest foil of like I need you to tone it down, like I need you to relax.

Speaker 1: Okay.

Speaker 2: Electra was just like, I need you to just bring it down like five, maybe bring it down to a two?

Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, like it just the last day of this trip even showed me that, like these women at their worst, they still don't want to look bad, even though they just looked terrible, like I'll.

Speaker 1: Spend you spent your entire trip fighting. Nobody said a thank you or acknowledged a plate being put in front of them, like until the last one. They were like, oh wow, a pastry, beautiful, that's beautiful. You missed the caprice, you missed the caveyard, the fish. They were putting whole things like in front of you where I'm like, can I get a spoon? And they were like and.

Speaker 2: Hell man, hell the first night the Sally came.

Speaker 1: Because even when I'm reading a bitch, I'm still gonna be like, oh, my god, thank you so much. This looks amazing. And because what if they asked me if I want a little black pepper? What if they're waiting to ask me if I want to bet a graded parmisan. None of them felt comfortable staying to ask me if I wanted to come Tramonts, because you bitches won't shut up.

Speaker 2: I know, that's right.

Speaker 1: They were scared. People were running out of there. Okay, all the charters they do, all the rich people they see, and they were like, drop the plates and go, drop the plates and go. Daisy was like, preserve yourself. Guys like toss the bread stick at them and just run the other way.

Speaker 2: Tell you, I'm telling you. They were like, we have to protect our piece right now.

Speaker 1: On the shore, Joe I was probably just like, if one more thing goes overboard, I'm gonna fucking lose again. Okay, he like or holds my leg like please got pull it together, Like these people look so terrible on this yacht. But at the end they were like, we don't want to look like those people who don't know how to tip. We have to look good, which I at least appreciate. But I'm like, to me, like, you guys really went above and beyond and you really like, I appreciate you so much. I know we were kind of crazy.

Speaker 1: Girl,

Speaker 1: shut up you Yeah, here's your envelope. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2: That would be me because that's all you had to say. I'm so sorry, that's all you have to say.

Speaker 1: So sorry. I apologize for my class being rowdy sometimes if we're in a public space. My you know, kiddos. We went swimming today at the local community swimming pool and I was like, when we weren't in a line, I was like, I'm so sorry to the people at the desk, like, I'm sorry. You do know better than this. We will behave ourselves. And we were very nice and say thank you on the way out because we had a talk. Who's gonna have a talk with these ladies.

Speaker 2: I have no idea. The only thing I know is that thank god they were docking that boat and these ladies out of there.

Speaker 1: And I do appreciate them being like, you know, go out and have fun on the town, Like y'all better have loaded them up so they can go get their drink on and have someone serve them a goddamn good meal. Since y'all don't know how to say thank you and appreciate it. Okay, the only people who have enough class that probably would have were Angie and Mary, and they Angie six percent of the times sick and Mary. It was like, I don't want to be nowhere near them. If I'm on a yacht, I don't want people screaming around me.

Speaker 1: I'd rather be j girl.

Speaker 2: Well, Captain Jason and Daisy were on Watch What Happens Live and they said Angie and Mary were the two best out of all of them.

Speaker 1: There you go, those are I'm in with them this year. They're watching for this year. I like I like the way you know their I like their friendship. I think it's real. I like the way they run their homes and their families. I think that's real. You know. I It's gonna be hard being and liking Angie k and being a baby gorgeous. But I found perfect balanced this episode because I think that Angie. Did you know that Angie's She's she's fine. I think she's like just mad at Lisa for pulling her in a negative direction with these girls for as long as she allowed to happen.

Speaker 1: I think that's what it is. She's like, I'm really pissed that Lisa made me. I felt like it were ready to be on this show. I had to be in the camp of Lisa and do the Lisa thing. And now I could have been friends or cook the queen of these girls, regardless just being a rich bitch in high which is very fair.

Speaker 2: Just remember that when Angie came on, she was friended up, and that was the reason that Jen poured the champagne on her head, and that was that's when Lisa took her under her wing.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when that whole whitney Angie and Lisa Trinity started. It didn't last, but it didn't last but the season.

Speaker 1: Minute, Yes, it was about thirty five seconds. It lasted long enough for me to remember that thing you just said. And now I will forget about that entire triad again. It's gonna be out of my mind. It already is. You know what else Captain Jason Daisy talked about on Now Watch What Happens Live? What we talked to me.

Speaker 1: They asked him a very important question, one that we all need to know because also I don't want to I'm really I really hate that y'all put me here for Brittany. But y'all did slush shame this girl the entire yacht trip though you told her to get over her dude, that's back at home before the start of the yacht trip. But then she gets on the yacht and she's like flirting with the people on the yacht, and you're like, m she's such a hoe I But yet Heather's the one who's like running around telling people, bragging to the internets and the articles that allegedly, I have to say, allegedly now that she and Captain Jason, you know, hit the boot and knocked some boats around, all right, and Captain Jason swiftly told Andy that did not happen.

Speaker 2: Well, I did not have relations with that woman.

Speaker 1: I did not have sexual relations with that woman, that is, and I believe this him. Yeah, he was just like

Speaker 1: I just I.

Speaker 2: Don't know what girls she wanted that moment she wanted a moment.

Speaker 1: I just don't understand how you make something like I don't know how you lie on someone's deck, you know what I'm saying. I just don't I don't under I've never understood that how you could Since high school. Since high school, I've been And I say that because I've talked about it before. I went to the same high school as notable football players to Fond Dicks, but he's not the only person, even in that class of his that went to the NFL, and it's still in the NFL. My school was a heavy high producer of NFL basketball soccer players who are all still playing, like Midge Purse as a soccer player.

Speaker 1: She went the same class. She same class. Yeah, I grew up next to my wife, same street. They've been best friends forever or friends forever. They're not best friends next but no, seriously, so I since high school, I have known people to lot on other people's days because we have an arm and a wide receiver. Thing like Stafon Diggs and there was there was three or four of them, there was like five of him, and there was like a group of them, and his senior year, I was a sophomore that he, like they all were destined for the NFL.

Speaker 1: We knew that everybody knew that we had a Hall of Fame of athletes already in our high school because that many people like went on to do that, and so like them, being that proximity to eventual greatness apparently also led the young ladies to making poor, unquestionable decisions. And even then I was like, okay, I think you should do something different. Some girls would even lie about it. I said, why do you want to? I don't understand why you want hold on? Just you wanna make up that you slept with this not yet in coll he's not even a college football player yet, Like, granted he didn't make it.

Speaker 1: Do look what that guy. Look at what Cardi B's dealing with. So I'm just like, I mean, I look right, I just want to point that out. And I'm just to the girls.

Speaker 2: I know.

Speaker 1: I have some friends who listen to this, and I just sometimes really got to remind y'all, you made a poor choice then, and I don't understand it. Like to the girls I know who weren't lying on his dick, I'm like, why, That's why I get to the girls that do lie on a man and be like I slept with so and so, why do you do that? Stand like no one's gonna ask them, especially if they are a person of no someone's gonna ask ask them. And I don't know why you would even offer the information because it usually pushes someone in the corner to say I did not.

Speaker 1: It will never know now if it's really true, because he was pushed in the corner to say no. He didn't want to address that and watch What Happens Live?

Speaker 2: That was uncomfortable, so uncomfortable, like, don't lie on people's.

Speaker 1: Dicks, please.

Speaker 2: All I'm gonna say is that I never heard him deny Adrianna Demora, no, t no shay okay, but he you know, I never heard him say, oh, I never I never hit that. He said we spent a lovely week in Miami together.

Speaker 1: Okay, But I did hear him deny Heather Gay. I saw that sound right, I did. I saw that clip. It was on the internet, and I said, I knew because that's all I cared about. Spell on the floor. That's the only reason I even watched that episode of Watch What Happens Live because I was like, so, Captain Jake, someone needs to ask that man today. Did you have said? Because I was like when she said, and I say, you saw it, really you.

Speaker 2: There was drunken. She thought Shep Rose was Captain Chase, And I'm not sure I think even Shep would be like, I did not hit that. You know what shef was so obliterated last Bravo con. He how you gonna remember anything?

Speaker 1: Like? Also, it's now so weird because they're gonna be at Bravo Con Like right now as we're recording it happening. You I told the world you did not hit this, and I did not hit that with this dick, but you told everybody I did. And now we're here in the same place, Like, what is that conversation? Like? Is that hello?

Speaker 2: Well they're gonna be at the Bravo Intro party tonight all.

Speaker 1: So what is that hello? Like? Do they avoid each other? Do they say, oh, sorry, I forgot it wasn't you? Like, how did other walk this back comfortably?

Speaker 2: She Can't's gonna have to pretend he's not there.

Speaker 1: Oh boy, Heather, why did you do this to yourself?

Speaker 2: There's no age, Heather. Look, if there's one thing I've learned about Heather Gay in the six years she's been on my TV screens is that Heather doesn't like the truth.

Speaker 1: Yeah, because that black eye, Like, why how many years did it take?

Speaker 2: That's why I'm like, many people could have lost their jobs.

Speaker 1: Yeah, No, seriously, That's why I'm like, girl, I can't believe you now because I would. I learned not to believe you then. Yeah, I've been learning not to believe you since the beginning of time. Also, I just am like one of those people Heather like if you if it really happened, I feel like she wouldn't be talking about it, you know what I mean. Like there's a certain air me a nonsense, I don't know, but there's a certain air that I feel like. I would walk through the world if I knew I had secret sex with Captain Jason from Below Death and nobody.

Speaker 2: Like, you know what I mean, That's just something I would wear proudly on the inside. I wouldn't tell nobody.

Speaker 1: But okay, I'd walk a little straight up.

Speaker 2: I would be walking a little higher, a little bit more poised.

Speaker 1: I'd be John Travolta.

Speaker 2: I'd be walking like John Travolta from Saturday Night Fever.

Speaker 1: Sile walking through the streets, Hey, good morning. You know you're nodding and smiling at people you don't even know, Hey, girl.

Speaker 2: Like be like fucking Beauty and the Beast.

Speaker 1: Like, I'm just like waving the people the bus riend I was looking at me like the phone so I'm like, Okay, what exactly do I don't know what their interactions look like from now on. But I also feel like this was definitely avoidable and she did not avoid it, and she should have could have, and I would have, but it was her choice. She chose to do that. Yeah. All you had to do, Heather, all you really had to do be a lady was be a lady. No, seriously, Okay. More importantly, these ladies are leaving the boat.

Speaker 1: They give you the money, they give them the money. It's gonna be good, good coin. I'm happy for these people. I can't wait to see how they unwind and decompress after these ladies. And then we get to the airport, like these people can't These ladies can't even finish out one activity, Like we can't finish a transition. We can't do shit without everything falling apart.

Speaker 2: When I tell you, I knew something bad was coming when they said three hours later.

Speaker 1: Okay, Like, we can't even board the planes correctly without Meredith is crashing out. We find out they get to the they get to the airport, they made it from Barbados or whatever, and Meredith is crashing out. She's having an alleged like full on melt the meltdown about her she's like reliving. Mary says that she's like reliving the situation over and over in her head, you know the TikTok, which also Meredith lets me know you knew, you know what, you know what's going on. I mean, thank you for a minute.

Speaker 2: I told you there's a reason he's always in Ohio.

Speaker 1: There. I told you to say we we we we see each other because I told y'all, why would he leave something that he is being paid to film? When he left Trixy's moteil When he left the motel, I was like, that doesn't make any sense to me. You're getting paid to be on vacation with your wife who's getting paid, and he'll choose to work in Ohio no shade to Ohio. But like what would y'all even wouldn't you want to be at the Palm Springs resort? Like why do y'all want to be in your cubicle office in Ohio if you can be in Palm Springs or whatever being paid to drink you know, Martiniz and whatnot.

Speaker 1: Also, Brittany, I just want you to know, Uh, you made it very clear episodes and episodes ago that you don't drink because you're Mormon. But Heather was like, do we do wine? And you were like, yeah, bro, say maybe I clocked it. Just wanted to say that. I was gonna say, I have that written down. I was like, every woman that sat down had drinks afterwards. Everybody had wine when they got back to the States. Just want to put that out there for the girls who say they don't drink. So Marenith is having a meltdown.

Speaker 1: She's reliving the situation of Brittany bringing up the TikTok showing it to Whitney, Whitney telling her that you have an opportunity to tell her or I will. She's upset now basically that it's brought to camera. Meredith is like, damn it, damn it, damn it, damn it, dammit. I want to see this. I want to know how bad this is. She wanted to see the TikTok, and that's probably why Lisa was allegedly letting girly knows, you need to show the damn TikTok. Here's the thing. When they bore the plane, Brittany is placed ind in front of Meredith and Lisa, where I believe a already two sheets to the wind.

Speaker 1: Meredith maybe on something whatever, had a lot to feel and say. And then Girley got in front of her face and sat down, and all of a sudden she could give a fuck about keeping her voice down, about pulling her hair in front of her face and saying, you know, he cheats and he makes out with people in fart. No, she said, no, hair will be covering my mouth. I want you to hear my lets. Can you believe Britney so miserable that she's talking about my husband? And that led to Lisa letting her vent and some saying she had involvement, some saying she just didn't deter it either way.

Speaker 1: Some very Lisa and Meredith did not care about her vocal levels, decided to talk very negatively about Brittany based on her anger in this situation. But also, I think this is all because the unicorn was found. If the unicorn stayed in the ocean, maybe Meredith would not have been so upset, you know what I'm saying. She would have gotten her lock back. She would have been like good bye. But then she gets up to go to the bathroom. At some point which I've done this and I usually apologize. But you got a hold of the chair in front of you and it rustles a little bit because it's a plane and nothing stable.

Speaker 1: But she could give a fuck. She's like, I don't care if I'm shaking you.

Speaker 2: She shook her like she was having a sea shirt.

Speaker 1: She made me lo l I said, no with why why that? So? What did your list say of the things that was alleged that Meredith and Lisa, You know, Meredith asterisk and Lisa did to this poor lady.

Speaker 2: They kicked your seat, repeated mem They pulled her hair.

Speaker 1: That one got me.

Speaker 2: That was why, you know, you know, well you know she had them long sensions and see.

Speaker 1: That we was tired. Shout out to Leanne, that was tired. I think maybe when she got up to pull the chair, maybe she did grab some hair. And again I think Meredith just did not give a fuck, Like this was the least fucks Meredith was ever getting.

Speaker 2: Now she she did that on purpose.

Speaker 1: Yes, And Lisa was like, if you wanted to stop, basically, you need to show her the TikTok top.

Speaker 2: Look, Brittany, just show her the TikTok.

Speaker 1: You show her the TikTok so, kicked her chair, pulled the hair or what else.

Speaker 2: She She was yelling loudly around the cabin, so loudly that passengers on the other side of the curtain were complaining, allegedly her.

Speaker 1: Whitney, I'd like to hear from them, Yes.

Speaker 2: I really would, And what's what's the one because we come out Meredith was literally she was saying, well, we'll get to that later because I have a bunch of notes about the placement.

Speaker 1: When she and Mary sit down, Okay.

Speaker 2: Yeah, so basically, oh, still the champagne.

Speaker 1: On her Yes, yes, Lisa said most of that fell on me. I think she's like saying that because of proximity, it was collateral damage. Because we're getting a lot of what happened through a lot of the different women. It's a little inconsistent for me because they're all basically backing up how bad marriage was on the plane, but yet so many of them were sleep for most of it. And then you got Heather who's like, well, I wasn't sleep for the end, and Lisa's like, so, how can it be both? How did you experience this entire attack and you only woke up at the end like, I don't understand.

Speaker 1: It's yeah, I didn't understand. I think Heather was like, you know, felt bad and was using her guilt as a moment to like retroactively defend Brittany. But like you also can't just take her word for it.

Speaker 2: The text messages said more about the situation than anything, because it was just four people that were texting Whitney, Heather and She and Mary.

Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that was it, and these were the women who so when they land, Meredith doesn't even like vehemently deny all of this. She's like, no, I was venting and yelling, which is also Lisa was like, what she's saying a lot of hard shit. Yeah, I'm not gonna tell her to stop. It's her husband and her marriage, which, to be fair, Lisa's been consistent with that. She I mean, it was her bonu pick with Bronwin on the boat last year. She's like the marriage thing, goddamn, Like, you're gonna really be mad if you if you tell people that he cheated emotionally or whatever, which we need to have a conversation about that too afterwards, and after we discussed the yeah, because uh, you got some feelings about that too, Okay, let me tell y'all something.

Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break and we're gonna be back with the rest of this episode. Stay fucking tune friends. Okay, y'all, we are back. And I had to like some non happy Eddie for the remainder of this episode, like just you know what I mean, like sidebar, like just until I know what kind of crimes we're dealing with, let me not add to it, you know what I'm saying. But then part of me feels like they're gonna need the money for the defense. I don't know. But then some of you guys are telling me you think that allegedly doctor Wendy is gonna make Eddie take the fall for everything job.

Speaker 2: But oh shit, you know alls I want to know is how there's gonna be a lot of awkward situations at Bravo com this weekend for.

Speaker 1: Babe, And like it's the narcissism. Shout out to the narcissism every time, because like it's like when Jinshawn tried to go to Bravo Cohn the year that she had just been like indicted, like why but like Tamra Judge I brought her or something.

Speaker 2: Like why no, no, no, Heather Gay brought.

Speaker 1: Her past and then when TRA's room or.

Speaker 2: Something, girl, I got the tea on that. Okay, look, okay, okay, just I mean I was talking to someone that was in the room with them all because I'm friends with one of the with one of the makeup people, and the makeup person said, you will never guess who just came in the room.

Speaker 1: And I said, who come in this room?

Speaker 2: And she goes Jen Shaw and Heather Gay, and I guess. Tamra and Teddy had to get downstairs for the step and repeat, and they left Shan in there to get glam. Well, Jan told the glam team. She goes, oh, I'm good now, thank you you. And she stole everything out of that mini fridge, the mini bar. She stole all the snacks, and she stole all the drinks.

Speaker 1: Sorry, that's so getto look to fraud. Okay, she is committed to thievery. It's in her, it's skin her.

Speaker 2: Wait, wait, that gets better, because than Tamar and Teddy came back to the room and tavers I went. I went to the mini fridge to get a drink of water, and there a bottle lapsed.

Speaker 1: I can't. I don't, but that's what it is because for me, I guess I'm not a narcissistem though, because nothing would possess me. I'd be so overwhelmed with the idea of people talking about me and how bad, like how shamed I felt, and being like, damn, that girl did a bad thing. But I would never go to a conference of fanatics of the show I'm on that I got caught on doing bad shit, but yet and still gonna be there. She wasn't even supposed to be there exactly, And that's the problem, and that's why I'm like, it's the narcissism and the housewives.

Speaker 1: Sometimes it is like because you know, you have to have a bit of it to be a good housewife. You have to. It's more than delusion. You have to love yourself in a delusional way and think that you are like absolved of any possible shame, embarrassment or wrongdoing. And that's true because some of these confessional looks. I'm still surprised we still seeing this one of Lisa's. I can't believe she didn't make them reshoot every single one. Well, with the eye more than the eye, it's the two brains.

Speaker 1: It's this one eye smokier than the other one. The other one is like a whisper. The other one is like a little bone smoke. You know, I'm very confused. It's too dark, the red is weird. It's a lot, it's bad.

Speaker 2: It's her share show drag. Look leave her big No. No.

Speaker 1: The whole point of baby Gorgeous is to look gorgeous, and this don't look gorgeous baby.

Speaker 2: Well, speaking of wrongdoings, should we talk about Todd and those text messages?

Speaker 1: I mean, let me tell you, I thought that this whole episode, I was gonna have nothing but this below deck drama. The Meredith yelling, which y'all know we already thought that this of sss so not shocked, but I was here for the fights and then coming to my surprise instead of us all just sitting down and talking about Meredith's behavior, which Heather and Lisa thought about, because Heather still made it about Lisa, which I do kind of have an issue with. I don't like that. She was like, I'm having this issue with you, and Brittany felt like she was attacked but not necessarily by Lisa.

Speaker 1: Maybe Lisa wasn't accomplished but why are you bringing this to her? I would sit down with Marreath and be like, why did you attack that lady? You and Lisa, or sit down with both of them, like why did you and Lisa attack that lady? You know what I'm saying? Like Lisa's like, how many times you're gonna blame me for somebody crying in this group? I didn't do it,

Speaker 1: Like I didn't know it. I didn't make that girl cry. I didn't make that girl cry. I didn't do it. But you know who didn't make brom and gray. I'll tell you it is that Todd. What I mean, I mean, that's how I know what Lisa said was right. I'm sorry, That's how I know it was right.

Speaker 2: Look outside, there was Daddy's out there on them streets, on those internet streets. Look there. Look there's always somebody younger and fresher right behind.

Speaker 1: You, like and you know what it is. I feel like the whole this somebody made out with Todd. Not one of Lisa's friends, someone she knows a friend of a friend at okay, just an one of my friends, but someone I think the only reason they probably even didn't keep the secret is because he was parting the whole time, Like that detail is so specific that I'm just like, I know there's an issue. I know that that it was the memorable factor. So this lady, like this young lady, whoever she is, because if she is a young you know, which I imagine she is because Bronwin's not old.

Speaker 1: So if she is a younger, I imagine she's of my gen maybe even younger than me, because I'm actually closer to Bronwyn, I think than everybody else.

Speaker 2: So I'MX. I'm gen X, and I think you're gen Z.

Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm a miillennial, so I'm like right in the middle. Yeah, like I'm the unclaimed I'm the forgotten valley. Like nobody claims like those three years in the nineties of like ninety four to ninety seven, because like true millennials who are like born in the eighties are like, bitch a ninety what shut up? And gen Z just thinks I'm old. They're just like, what do you mean? I know?

Speaker 2: I was, I was age sing. They said, Oh, you wouldn't know they was. You wouldn't understand this if we said I was like, excuse you, who you're talking?

Speaker 1: Who you're talking? To I understand things.

Speaker 2: I grew up afore cell phone, bitch.

Speaker 1: I know exactly what life is like. You don't know what the life is like. I know what the life is like. So I have lived my adolescence in childhood, both with technology and without, so I have memory of both. So I am like, if they are younger, they know the show, and I would be texting. You can't notot text your group. You can't not spread that information. If you made out with a rich, older, serious man that you know is married to a house life of Salt Lake City girl and there ain't the whole time.

Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I'm telling somebody I know.

Speaker 2: That's right.

Speaker 1: That's proven a group chet of young ladies under the age of twenty six. Okay, that's good stuff. That's like, that's good tea. That's when you text the group chat bitch, and then like what what question mark? Question mark? And it's just like and you get gift after gift after gift of like what is it?

Speaker 2: Because I got got got myself a new daddy. He's a little cheriatrically, he's okay, yeah.

Speaker 1: He's latouse and tolerant as a motherfucker, but he's a good guy. He GIFs me, Okay, just imagine I just need somebody else to either confirm or deny that he has gout it. You know, if that's where we're at. I don't know if that's where we're at. But according to Bromwin, sitting down with Whitney seemingly to discuss Meredith's crash out on the plane, they bonded in a whole new way, which I can't know. I was so proud of them. I was really proud of both of them. In fact, I felt like Whitney played off of browin being like, damn, if you're gonna be like open and vulnerable, like, I don't want you to fell alone because I needed someone to talk to about this too.

Speaker 1: Nobody else in the group would probably understand this, which is true. Are still pining after being married from like forever ago, knowing it was terrible, you know what I'm saying, And a lot of these other girls put up with whatever bullshit. You know, the bar is in hell. But with me and Bronwin both being like we're the same age and we are with older husbands, which means that we have needs that are different. They have needs that are different. I guess they just keep one of younger women. I don't get it.

Speaker 2: Well, you know my mom always had a sing. Just because they get younger doesn't mean you are.

Speaker 1: That's facts, that is that, and they don't seem to know that. But like wrong and let us know. There's no current arrangement, which is I guess why it's so frustrating that she got home in Twitter? Twitter, Okay, Twitter, not a TikTok. That's what I to tell you know, it's real Twitter x with of us with news that Todd was looking at other women. We don't get a lot of context in what way he was looking at And I actually need a little bit more detail because making out and farting is detailed. It's explicit.

Speaker 1: That is cheating. That is bad. Right, What do we mean looking at like swiping on Instagram? Are we in girls dms? Are we on tender? Like? That's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking he's swiped. He said, okay, he's looking for someone to make out with at a bar. I don't know.

Speaker 2: This is no, this isn't, this isn't it's about Tom.

Speaker 1: Now.

Speaker 2: Now we're not at the Regency. We're worth thirty, we'reth thirty thousand feet on a data plan with the airline trying to find you on next city hookup.

Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, and I'm like, how is that your part already while you in the air If you don't turn on a movie, they're not cheating on your wife. Here's the thing though, that I always get mad about with these husbands, because if you think the narcissism of these women are great, it's the men that are so much greater. They're so used that people now give a fuck about their wives when their wives are probably their best asset anyway, because y'all look so regular, ugly and it's just your money, really so basic.

Speaker 1: So like they're so confused that they're like these women, that their women are notable enough that they would be known for that, that they think that they are not going to get closed. We have seen this across shows en franchises. There is always that husband that doesn't realize your wife is now bigger than you. And it's okay one, but that means that you need to be careful. You can't just be out in the world Michael Darby gallivanting around talking to women at bars when your wife is on TV. It's the same area like of all the places, like Todd, you're on a plane back to Salt Lake City when you're swiping through.

Speaker 1: Okay, Salt Lake City got like two things, two things, and I'm telling you what it is. It's right now. The Secret Lives of Mormon Wife Season three now streaming on Hulu, not an ad amazing, so good and real house has a Salt Lake City. That's what y'all got. And both of them are related to the cult that is allegedly the Mormon Church, because that's what we're all here for. Which also I have to make a mention and y'all will hear more about it when I talk to Sell a little bit. But Mary getting an expose on her quote unquote cult when she's famous from a show that is about people's connection to a quote unquote cult is racist.

Speaker 1: I just want y'all to know that picture second, point blank period. We are here because of the Mormons. How does Heather get surviving? It's gonna be vialified for what? First of all, when there are extenuating circumstances for Mary that we all know. So let's all calm down. Heather married and was in that church. Okay, that was a choice. Mary was a young lady who was told and manipulated, religiously, manipulated by family, familiarly relipulated. But what are we even discussing? Why is that in ABC?

Speaker 1: Like Jenshaw and Erica and all these things, But we're not gonna do it for the whole Mormon Church. I don't understand it, because that can be fanatical that we get multiple you know, real, we get multiple franchises, multiple shows. All these things are surrounded by the cult or the cult like identity of the Mormon Church. Oh no, it's a religion, then so is Mary's. I know plenty of Pentecostal people lazy. I don't understand how we're even having conversation.

Speaker 2: Our next door neighbors. Yeah, we liked to New Jersey, our next door neighbors or Pentecostal.

Speaker 1: They was cool as hell. Like I know my aunt and her her, her daughter, my cousin of Pentecostal do. We We practice very differently, and I am not one to say that I don't make fun of some of the things that they do because that's family. But also there are practices that are different culturally, though I understand them because I know a lot of Pentecostal people, but like to call it a call. Also, because Mary's church is small, really bothers me.

Speaker 2: Well. I also want to point out, and this is something a lot of people don't understand, is that when they were putting together the show, Lisa Barlow knew Mary, and once they were introduced to Mary, they honestly didn't want nobody else but Mary and the focus to show around Mary. But Mary didn't want that.

Speaker 1: No, And that's why people are so pissed, and people are y'all asked so many questions why does Mary get away with so much on this show? Because Mary's minute involvement is still better, like it's better investment in contribution than what any of these other women. Mary is not showing us any part of her life right now, like a snippet, and it's still more fascinating, more interesting. And we've been in her home more than almost any of these other women.

Speaker 2: Thank you. You all these rented homes except for Angie's and Mary's.

Speaker 1: I've seen Mary, and I love watching Mary walk through her house. Y'all will not take that from me.

Speaker 2: Now, She's got cool stuff.

Speaker 1: I like the way she walks in through her house. She wears nice outfits at home and walks through a very eclectic house. I'm always like interested in what I'm looking at, and then she has the size of my apartment, Like what, I just wanted to make sure I put it out there. If y'all don't know how I feel, and you couldn't guess, the answer is it's racist. It's a problem, and I'm really I'm really upset about it. Like I was, like, what it shook me to see the commercial the same week of seeing Surviving more Men?

Speaker 1: So do tell me that Mormonism is not like a cult, because then why are you letting this lady survive it and become a like like you know what I mean, and like eradicate herself as a victim of something, because I'm not gonna take that from her, I'm not, but do that then to marry and facilitate that she is now somehow of equal like danger and dangerous pushing the same kinds of cult like ideals or whatever and control or I don't want to hear it. It just really screamed racist to me. It was racist when y'all talked about Mary years ago and her church, and it's racist now.

Speaker 2: Now I'm not gonna call them out by name, but there were three people in that trailer content creators that I know are on these Bravo streets reporting on things, acting like they had some sort of insight on who Mary Cospy is. And I wanted to tell each and every one of them, I see you.

Speaker 1: Because what it's really it's really giving y'all will sell your souls for whatever the thing is like at the moment, because there's a line and if you really knew Mary or sought to understand her, just I remember when I forget who it was, was it Whitney that she brought to her church. I remember watching that and I talked about it on my show years ago, and I was like, even though it's smaller the entire what's called the order of service, what's being under ridicule here also is the black church experience.

Speaker 1: And that's just the facts. You don't know what it looks like. And it's small in Utah because there's no black people in Utah. Like that's really what it is. The community is small, but the order of service, which is terminology that I use and from my upbringing in the church, the order of service that Mary has in her little church is the exact same I had in my megachurch. But I do to this day called cult like that is facts. However, I tall at that because of the use of like manipulation from higher individuals in giant spaces of that religion and power just push some people too, because.

Speaker 2: It's a scheme, yeah, hemid scheme.

Speaker 1: Says like, but if we're doing that, it's so many churches of y'all's. Don't even do that to me. I'm looking at Joe Olstein. If Mary's a cult leader, what.

Speaker 2: Is that work?

Speaker 1: And it's not you because I remember also very much so that the doors were closed not big magature. Oh well, Mary asked all her patrons for you know, money, and said that it wasn't enough. I just saw Marvin sat who is a very rich man, a very rich man, a very rich man, very rich, shame a woman for not giving him two thousand dollars and only giving him like fifteen hundred or something like that, and telling her not thank you, but not enough to finish a church that's been being built for thirty years.

Speaker 1: Because that's just what it is, like, that's how it goes. Do not tell me that Mary is a called leader for that because by that volition, you're all in something.

Speaker 2: Because in her little church, it.

Speaker 1: Just really it really upset me because also I know so many people, and I know many I love so many people who are still a part of the church that I did leave, and I felt, you know, had I do feel like I just survived my experience. I do think that it was a really hard one. That's why I wouldn't take what was happening from Heather. I would not take those words from her because I know what that is feeling like, what that feeling is like, and I was born in it, so I had to be expelled out of it and then find out that I was actually under a lot of things that were not necessarily true to how I am as a person and what I believed about myself and the world and God.

Speaker 1: So I had to make those things for myself. But that's a big megachurch, and I am like, if it's the exact same as what Mary is dealing with. There are people who are still in that that I love very dearly. I don't want to take what's happening from them either. That's their church home. They have their things to figure out about it like it's where they get to practice their faith. And I just like, and I know, y'all are wait, this is a major detour, but it happened the same week, and that just felt so pointed to me to be like, surviving Mormonism is on my feet right now, and Mary being a cult leader that feels like I don't like that.

Speaker 2: I didn't either.

Speaker 1: I thought that was nasty.

Speaker 2: I felt bad for her because that's not right. No, no, I was like, come on, now, come on, yeah, I mean, as a gay man in the United States of America, I was raised Catholic and Methodist. So I'm screwed on both ends of the of the stream.

Speaker 1: Okay, because let's say the Catholic s guy rolled Honey, I went to Catholic hunt.

Speaker 2: You know, they still take my twenty dollars every Christmas in Easter.

Speaker 1: And that's very factual. That's very factual.

Speaker 2: Like I put it in plate and I'm good with God till Christmas, and then I put it in the plate and I'm good with God to Easter.

Speaker 1: Okay. Like, I just don't understand why we were able to have let Heather tell one experience of a thing and then like.

Speaker 2: Mary and Mary's getting railroaded exactly. They didn't even give Mary an option. They just they just chugged this out. This is just one of those Housewives specials.

Speaker 1: That, yeah, of the likes of Jinshaw and Erica Jane. However, again, with those women, a lot bigger victims happening.

Speaker 2: There, real crimes, victims, elderly.

Speaker 1: Deaths like moneys. It's like a fraud for decades. But please, those were in. Those were necessary nightline interviews that I'm like, and y'all had a lot to say about Erica having one when it was her husband that had the charges. So I really don't even want to hear it because I thought that one made sense. But neither here nor there. I really wanted to get trying to y'all know. I needed to let y'all know you're not taking Mary off my screen, and you're not about to get her to quit this show. I promise you that now you want Mary, you need Mary on this show.

Speaker 1: Stop being racist. I'm just telling you that because if you have a bigger problem with Mary being on this show and not any of it, You're like, if your big issue on this show is Mary, you don't like black people on your white TV, I'm just here to tell you that. I'm just here to tell you.

Speaker 2: That I'm going to say is when when Garcel quit, there were so many people celebrating, and you know what, I followed them immediately.

Speaker 1: I was like, what do you mean, Garcel? Was your issue? Explain that to me?

Speaker 2: And now y'all mess her because now something's running around on jacked.

Speaker 1: Enjoy your little thing. Thank you, Blake. What are you even like? What are we even discussing? So if your issue was Mary and you're down for this expose or whatever, And I'm looking at some of y'all who even like reposted it and put it out there, because that's problematic, I don't understand. It's weird to me because one thing I know is that Mary did not give me no confusing vibes this episode. I was, I get what. She shoots it so straight. Sometimes to me, I feel like we know exactly what we're getting, what's important to her.

Speaker 1: How shallow she is everything up front. I know it all from Mary. Do you think I look in bred? Yes? I do. It's funny. She's like, you know, she's saying he's making out and farting, and I don't know which one I would be more upset about me Na, what's she doing? Show Roberts Sor and yet I haven't seen Sean this year. I haven't seen justin this year.

Speaker 2: I've seen Todd took a big step back from the camera.

Speaker 1: Okay, I haven't seen Seth because he's in Ohio. I've seen one scene with John and so please please don't miss me with the bullshit. You haven't seen her life. I've seen her son. I ain't seen nobody else's kids. I've seen her son talk about his drug addiction and his mental health. I've seen Mary cry on TV, and not because Lisa Barlow did. Some things are no.

Speaker 2: Let me tell you that was the most authentically real reality TV moment of last.

Speaker 1: Year all a while. That was a mom that that.

Speaker 2: Was something I don't think anybody saw coming. I don't think she let it.

Speaker 1: I can't even believe like she I don't think she anticipated that kind of like the way that was going to follow through and while it being on camera, but she's showing up and she's clocking in. She said, y'all want to see my life. This is my life, this is my son, this is her family. Y'all don't see Robert singing because we all know she don't love that man. What calm down, what are you talking about?

Speaker 2: She was literally manipulated.

Speaker 1: We know this. She cares about her son, though, which is why he's here. She's just I can't even believe that she like left, you know, for this amount of time to film with us on this yacht.

Speaker 2: She's probably helping he fell down the stairs or something on the way.

Speaker 1: Okay, And such a good friend that Mary like, who's worried about her son night and day on this yacht with these ladies who won't stop arguing. And she's sticking around with Angie because that's her bad that's her bitch, because she stick and she ride or eye.

Speaker 2: Let y'all bring me some food. I don't have a problem with it.

Speaker 1: Neither is Mary. She said, I like it down here, Yes, I can. They sure word, they were having a good time.

Speaker 1: I would go to their sleepover like I would slumber party with Angie and Mary, and I really like when her wife swap family came over. It was so cute that Mary was there. I mean Heather too, but Mary was there, like they really be hanging out. I love it.

Speaker 2: Well, you know, the Gorgas became very good friends with their swap family too.

Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to talk about the Gorgus out, Okay, I don't. I don't like I mean, I know y'all are really excited about Jersey coming back, but I don't think it's going to be the find each other so that it will be them.

Speaker 2: I'm going to be excited only if one thing happens, and that's only if one thing happened.

Speaker 1: And what's that one thing? I just must know?

Speaker 2: A certain sister in law does not return, and then we have a court case to end all court cases with in the papers and on these tiers in internet streets, when the other money's gone and he's gone and she doesn't know where he went.

Speaker 1: Cameras up when that happens. I'm not gonna owe you. I want when that when that thing, when that thing over there in the Franklin Lakes or whatever falls apart, I would indeed like some cameras. I would like some footage. I'm just not interested in this fake ass rehashing and fake ass reunion of all the family members so performative it's literally giving. Please come film this and they aren't talking to you, so no, we don't need it. It doesn't need to be you. So yeah, no, I don't care about the Gorgus, but I did care.

Speaker 1: I do like seeing Angie and her that family be close. That was cute.

Speaker 2: They're really good friends.

Speaker 1: I know. That's so crazy because I mean, these people don't have no toilet.

Speaker 2: Or Look, when Angie found that chemical toilet, I thought she's gonna I thought she was gonna cry.

Speaker 1: That wasn't enough for me. I would not have blamed her at all. No running water was enough for me. When that man was bathing in leeches, I said, no, I don't understand.

Speaker 2: That doesn't understand that either.

Speaker 1: The purpose of bathe Then what are we doing just sitting in lake? Well, I don't get it. Well that's nasty, So yeah, no, I don't know. But I like how much of a sport Angie is, and she's kind of like a go along to get along. I really thought.

Speaker 2: That she does because they got well when they got off the plane and Angie and the confessional said, when we got off the plane, and I turned and I looked at Brittany, and Brittany just melted in front of me and It's all I could do to hold it together.

Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, see what I think happened is like if y'all, if for my girlies out there who and that you know girls asterisk, if you identify, you identify. But for my girlies out there who have ever been the picked on, especially by the girlies in school, it wasn't. It's not giving that Mary Deith and Lisa were yelling at Brittany and making her cry. It's given that they were talking about her so loud and not caring how she talked. Like I've seen this play out on any high school drama. Okay, You're on the bus and people sit behind you and it's the mean girls and you're minding your business and they're like, oh my god, did you see It's literally a scene out of Princess Diaries number one.

Speaker 1: Ooh good cause when they started talking about her hair, like, oh my god, you know that Friz is like so out and I'm so hope of.

Speaker 2: Movie.

Speaker 1: Okay, Lanta, Anna and Fontana could a got on it, okay, And that's what it was giving though, But that was enough to make Amelia cry. It did. It would make me cry if you were a high school girlly or a person who got picked on and the mean people are focusing their energy and time on you. Okay, it was me too, until I became the bully that ad. But I don't. I don't recommend school. I don't recommend for perfect mechanism. I'm like, you know what, take the battle and fight back. But no, don't recommend.

Speaker 1: But self preservation was key. Starting in fourth grade. I had had it. I had had it with these those in third grade said y'all not gonna talk about me and make me cry. No more so in fourth grade. I that shit. Okay. It was like, yeah, y'all are not gonna have me it out here, Okay. But like I just it was giving that that's what happened. And I do feel like that would be enough to make Brittany Milt into a puddle of tears, and that does seem hard. Like to sit on a long ass flight to hear people talking about it.

Speaker 2: I think it was like twelve or thirteen hours.

Speaker 1: Oly, shit, Yeah, it's enough to make somebody cry. I don't think it was as bad as they wanted to make it out to be, but I do think it was as impactful as Brittany felt it to be.

Speaker 2: Well when we got to Meredith and Mary at the end of the episode. Yes, is where because Mary is, at least, if nothing else, the reliable narrator in the situation. I agree, and I, if nothing else, trust her and Angie's take on a situation more than any of the others.

Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm going to tell.

Speaker 2: You right now, the gas lighting that Mary was getting from Meredith was very indicative. She goes, okay, it was fifteen minutes, no man. Now okay, so thirty minutes tops.

Speaker 1: No, Meredith. I mean even Lisa told her husband and she wouldn't shut up. She was venting like fellas just like, and then I fell asleep, woke up and she vented more like. Lisa made it clear without using any time language, that you were on and on about it. She said, I had time to take a nap, re up, refresh, and wake up. And she was still mad. She was still bad day.

Speaker 2: It was mad day.

Speaker 1: But also, Meredith, that's fine. You can just say you were freaking pissed and throwing the unicorn in the ocean wasn't enough.

Speaker 2: You were still pissed, so freaking passion.

Speaker 1: Yeah, but also say that, don't gask like my girl Mary, because Mary everybody pretty accountable. She'll be honest with you. She really has no skin in the game. And I appreciate that sometimes because when that's the case, she can just be like, Nah, you didn't do that, or you did do well. Look what she did.

Speaker 2: She worked her Look she said it was only ten minutes, No Meredith, Okay, it was fifteen No Meredith. Oh it okay, So it's no more than thirty minutes.

Speaker 1: So we just went up to.

Speaker 2: A half an hour, which tells me it was at least a couple hours of this if nothing else.

Speaker 1: Yeah, it also means that you are not a reliable narrator if you are cagy, but you know that the details are flexible per what you remember. But also when you're that angry, you don't remember. I've gone on angry rampages for hours and hours and the next day it bothers me so little or something, or a couple of days later, because Adhd is a bitch, I'm like, I don't remember even when I was mad about it. Doesn't mean but just because I no longer care or I don't think it was impactful, doesn't mean it wasn't Lisa to that.

Speaker 2: Just you know, just you know, I just want Meredith to understand when just when the dust settles on this mess, and it will.

Speaker 1: And it will. And I think she actually, I'm not saying she had a reason to be mean to this girl, and I don't think Lisa was. Yes, she deerved it, but I do think Lisa was probably like, if you want her to stop showing the TikTok, I'm serious, you really fucked up, because now she won't shut up about it TikTok and find out her I mean, of course, but Maryith I don't feel like she's savvy in most ways. But I do think that there's a little truth and she wants to know how much the internet knows. And she's mad that Brittany now brought it to the truth and to the trip the show and the trailer.

Speaker 1: I think she probably broke the fourth wall a ton, and that's why we can't hear whatever audio. I think that she was probably like, you know, this low down like friend of it. She's not even on the show. She's not even on the show, and she wants to bring my marriage. She wants to do she is paying this man to be her boyfriend just to be on a show as a friend, and she wants to talk about my marriage. All her scenes get cut out, but she wants to talk about me, and I feel like that's what she did. Like she overkilled on the nasal, she overkilled on you know the expletives, She overkilled on the identifying that they're on a show that makes it unusable in an episode.

Speaker 1: But just you wait that secrets revealed or unseen footage episode that comes out conveniently before the reunion or whatever. I think they'll have more than we think.

Speaker 2: I think I think that there's if nothing else, there's an audio.

Speaker 1: If nothing else, there's an audio, or at least because producers were likely on the plane too, like yeah, so then Andy can at least be like, now there is no fourth wall. And he's like, so, my we production actually said, and you know, he always make it like productions say stuff that is law. So if they say this happened, this happened, this didn't happen, he's going to make it like law. So we'll get what production witnessed very soon because they're the truth last Summer in the Middle, but honestly, none of their stories.

Speaker 2: Were that believe Mary.

Speaker 1: I believe Mary too. I believe Mary because I can't see it. I can see this being bad enough that it would feel big to Brittany, as big as what she said, and as to the Meredith because of how mad she was.

Speaker 2: And I honestly don't think Mary would sit down with somebody and guess like them, because she's never has before.

Speaker 1: Mary does not want to be here. She genuinely won. I think wants the paycheck two and I think she deserves it. Two. I think she thinks it's fine. But these are her real Some of these ladies, the ones that she talks to, there are real friends. I think she does consider Meredith and Angie real friends of hers. I think she sees these women's opportunities to be friends within too. Likes Bronglin too. She's learning to respect. She's that slow to like the girlies. And I appreciate smart She's she's a smart woman like that, and I like that.

Speaker 1: But I think she sat down with Meredith because she thought she had a chance of getting through the America. That's a friend. She cares about this person being okay and how she was perceived, not necessarily about the drama of it all.

Speaker 2: Well, that's what she said. She goes, I'm telling you this not to be shady. I'm telling you this because I don't think you remember.

Speaker 1: Thank you, and I'm carry it.

Speaker 2: And I was like, go a, Mary, you tell your friend the truth. It might it might not end well right now, but she'll appreciate you later for it.

Speaker 1: It absolutely will. And I want to know. I want to know who's responsible for this expose a thing. I know y'all gonna be like, oh, ABC just took a random shot in the dark, but usually they take a shot in the dark when the headlines line up and match up.

Speaker 2: We'll tell you what I'm going to do for you. I'm gonna look up the production company tonight and see who it is, and I'll do a little deep dive for you.

Speaker 1: I'll thank you because I saw a lot of comments and y'all, since y'all out there, especially my black women, I hear you, I see you, y'all. Felt very triggered and like angry, like a little route up at the same idea of like, why is it that she's having a good season and all of a sudden she's on top and now we're getting this take down. I don't understand it's not line enough because if y'all were this concern, you would have done this two years, three years ago, when it was all that people could talk about with Mary's Church.

Speaker 2: Now this is ABC, this is Hulu people doing this. This isn't NBC.

Speaker 1: I thought it was ABB.

Speaker 2: That's what I mean. It's a whole network. It's not NBC.

Speaker 1: Yes, true and fair in fact, but Hulu overlap so much. ABC overlaps so much that I'd like it not like in collaboration, but it's not like they don't know each other, work together, have some of the same things happening, Because why is.

Speaker 2: Your choice over there?

Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They was over there and they overlap all the time was a slummele. So I don't know it's giving. I would love thank you Mark for doing the deep dive and figuring out. I love that you know the things like y'all don't even know. Mark is the investigates for Honey Okay and the four Mark.

Speaker 2: I love think I was on my don't think. Don't think for a second. I didn't jump on my job's database as soon as Wendy and Eddie got arrested.

Speaker 1: I know and I love it too.

Speaker 2: You know, I got up out of my seat, I shut my off special business.

Speaker 1: I'll right exactly. Oh my gosh, Mark, thank you so much for talking all things so thank you for doing this three parter with me and closing and this cross over. I can't wait and see what happens on below deck. Y'all might actually get me to watch these episodes because of it. But I had a blesst talking about all of this with you and being and having you hear it. For the key key, where can people keep up with you? Listen to you get the more of your good stuff.

Speaker 2: You can listen to our podcast at the Pink Pop Box Podcast and where you get your podcasts. We're gonna start a whole new season starting in a couple of weeks, and you can find me on the Instagram. Don't play on Twitter. I'm scared of.

Speaker 1: It, I understand, and y'all can only find me on Instagram and threads at Mixing with Money. You know the podcast is everywhere. Help me get to my rating school. Thank y'all so much. The Mix with Money on all Things you listen to patreon dot com slash Mixing with Money for the visuals, take care of yourselves. Y'all, take care of yourselves, you know, love yourselves down. Who else is gonna do it. You are loved. Bye,

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